The Kristian Harloff Show - The Difference Between a Movie Critic and a Movie Reviewer | The Big Thing

Episode Date: August 9, 2021

On today's episode, more The Suicide Squad talk, Aretha review and Kristian breaks down to Ben Bateman and Steph Sabraw his opinion on what the difference is between a movie critic and someone who reviews movies. Follow on Twitter Kristian Harloff https://bit.ly/31PePMD Ben Bateman https://bit.ly/2HFo8YG Steph Sabraw https://bit.ly/3m0ud0z Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to The Big Thing. Yes, we're still on the main channel, not moving until next week. But thanks for joining us today. Two special guests, Steph, Sabra, obviously, and the boss, Ben Bateman, he's going to be here. But we are going to be talking to you guys a little bit more. A little bit more. I absolutely have watched the new, the modern, the newly released. I'll definitely talk about it a little bit more. I'm going to watch it soon, whenever soon is. Figure that out. I absolutely have watched the new, the modern, the newly released. Sopranos Season 4. It came out a few years ago, but I watched a lot of that. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the wire. A lot of different things that will come up in this show. But we're going to have some fun. Ladies and gentlemen, it is the big thing, and we're going to start it right now.

So, Big Thing, ladies and gentlemen, it is episode, I don't know what the hell it is, 22. Can we've done 22 of these already. It is the big thing. And today, the big thing is going to be the Suicide Squad. Once again, it's more thoughts. how it's done so far, what the reactions have been like. And joining me on the show today, obviously, the one and only, Steph Sabra. Hello, Steph. How are you?

Nice to see you. Good to be here. I can't believe I made it. You did make it. It's a crazy week already. Well, it's even more of a crazy week because look at this character. Where's your guitar? Christian, I don't know if you know I'm going on tour, but that. That was the whole reason.

I thought you're going to sing us a song today. This is bullshit. Yeah, I'm sorry, man. It's all right. So what's going on with it? You're going on the road? You're taking it on tour? Tell us.

Yeah, yeah, I'm really excited about it. It starts right at the end of October. It's including L.A., it's about 12 shows. It's totally 100% just I'm doing it myself. It's an idea that our good friend, David Michael Frank, who was instrumental in starting S-E-N with you and getting it going. He kind of showed me the way to do this. You book all your own rooms and you basically sell tickets directly,

and I'm not playing any venues. They're all, like, private rooms and booking. And, yeah, man, I put out my first song in April, and I just decided to do it. So what do you do? You rent the room and then you just sell it out. Do you have people like putting the chairs out and stuff? Or how do you do it?

Yeah, you basically, I mean, it's wherever you can find space, you know. And so some cities where you have a bigger audience, you're going to book a bigger room. But, you know, I've now kind of gauge the first about like five or six weeks of ticket sales. So I have a pretty good idea of which cities all need to get like a tiny room.

What's the average? What would you say the average crowd is? I'm trying to get 20 to 30 people per show. Oh, that's cool. That's a nice little, little intimate crowd. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So like some of them like Austin's got $3,000 a ticket.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, it's like Austin. I've sold a bunch, New York, I've sold a bunch of Orlando, and then some of the smaller ones, like Denver, I've sold a few less. So you're doing this really, this is about, at the moment, this is about passion to get to because. A thousand percent. Yeah, because you're going to get,

because the plane ride in your hotel alone with 20 people in there, how much is our tickets? Anywhere from 30 to 150, depending. Depending on where they sit and the kind of, and the, the meet and greets and all that kind of stuff. The novelty of the more expensive tickets. Right. And have you sold a lot of the novelty ones yet?

A few of them, yeah. That's great. And that's what you need to do because that's like, and then it adds to experience. And that way, when you let people know that it also, they, oh, well, he's flying out here for the passion of it. So get those higher tickets, man, they're worth it. And it's, I think, the reason why the elite tickets go so fast with Shmodeau. Yeah.

It's because it gives you that experience. But you guys should do that for sure. And then I don't like to give Ben compliments, but he's a really good singer. You should check it out. You should look in your videos up, right? Yeah, I actually just put my first music video up on Monday. It's funny because it's three months later, the same song that was the first song I put out. But that's what normally people do.

Yeah, but it's doing pretty well. You know, it's been up for a few days. It's gotten like 4,000,000, views now. And people have been really warm about it. So it's exciting, man. I mean, I started playing music when I was like 12, and I moved out to LA when I was 21. It was one of the first things I did. But I didn't do it for about seven years.

And so a year ago, I decided to just do it again and wrote a bunch of stuff. And some of it has, you know, connected with people in this first song did. So thank you to everybody who bought a ticket, et, et cetera. Ben, maybe in 2021 tour.com, and you guys want to get a ticket. I'll see you on the road. Yes. Well, there you go. Now you have to sandwich to compliment with some shit talk.

You will. Don't worry. We got an hour. We got an hour. You get that in in 90 seconds. Now it's all downhill from here. That's right. So, well, anyway, we have a lot to talk about.

There was, Ben was breaking my chest beforehand. He's like, did you watch Suicides quiet? Because we have these conversations where I just, I am like Pliny Eastwood and Grant Torino at this point sitting on the, the balcony going, guys, these kids putting up the movie reviews again.

And it's just watching people. It just, it feels like, and I get it. And I understand why people are doing it. But for me, sometimes I feel like people

are scurrying to get the review first. And it's like, do you really even care about seeing the movie? Or do you just want to get the views to see it? Like that's, that's, that was the difference of why I think that Mark and I, when we started doing reviews,

yeah, of course we wanted to get our reviews out first. But we were going because we like legit, just loved watching movies and wanted to see it. And then it's like, Now it's just a game of who can get their review up first. It's because there's so many people and there's so many reactions. It's just like, I saw it, I did this.

I got the industry contact and it's like, it's just not something that I have fun doing anymore. So like, yeah, it's on, it's on HBO Max. Am I going to watch it? Yes, when? I don't know. And that's the beauty of it. I don't have to like, I don't got Fernandez going, do you watch it yet? You know, make sure they want to hear what you're going to say.

I don't have to worry about that shit anymore. It's like so. As long as you have access to age. these movies and The Sopranos, there's no fucking way you're watching movies that just drop. Are you kidding me? That's what I need to do. I just,

because every time I go to watch one of these new movies or a new show or something that everyone's talking about, an 80s classic will pop up. Do you know how bad I want to watch one, what the hell's the one with One Crazy Summer with John Cusack and Demi Moore? Oh, yeah. I'm pretty sure that's, and in fact, if it's not One Crazy Summer, I'm going to be very mad it myself because I love the movie. I know they're in the movie together.

It is. It's Demi Moore and Bobcat Goldsway. Demi Moore. And then I just got an 80s movie added to my Christian Harlov syllabus. What is it? What? Crazy Summer. I'm watching Predator.

Predator. Just the original Predator? Yeah. You haven't seen Predator? The whole 80s I missed. I wasn't there yet. She's like 22 years old. That's like one of the best of all time.

That's what I told you've seen Die Hard, the original Die Hard. Yes, the first one. I haven't seen that. That's okay. I mean, the other ones are. good. The two and three are phenomenal. Yeah, three is really good, yeah. I love two.

But number one, yeah, if you've seen it, the greatest action movies of all time, Predator is up there. Now, my wife, on the other hand, the other day, like she has never seen Predator, and I tried to get her to watch it the other day. You guys are very different. Like, she won't watch, she won't watch Heat. You loved Heat. Like, she won't watch Heat. So, like,

and I think I told you guys this, but I So we start watching, you know, Predator, like the back of your hand. So it starts off in the Allen Sylvester's like, da-na-na-da-na-da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-and. And they walk in, and my wife goes, I was really looking, I wasn't really looking for a dude movie. And I look at it. I go, it's not a dude movie. Like, totally. The guy's got in the helicopter.

As soon as they went into the cigar. And I always remember when I saw that movie with my grandfather. I was very young. And I saw it. I probably shouldn't have seen in the theater. I was way too young to be seen. I was probably 9, 9, 10 years old when I saw that movie. In theater.

And my grandfather, never forget. He gave, my grandfather was like from Salerno, like a total. I mean, he could have been in The Sopranos, right? And he used to give Schwarzenegger so much shit every time he saw him smoking the cigar. He's like, look at this. This guy's, this guy's, he's like, you talk about bad acting. That guy does, he's never smoked a cigar in his life.

And he's like, I never forget it. He gave him so much shit on smoking cigars. Which character in Sopranos is your grandpa most like? I mean, he's, um, please say sylvio he's no i mean because if that was a case he'd be saying you know switzerland he it's not real there's a great moment that's between sylvia and and and uh

tony in season four that i totally forgot about um but my my grandfather i don't think there is one for him in that because he's got i mean he's more like a maybe like a johnny sack i don't know if you met johnny sack yet have you met johnny sack yet i just met johnny sack he's he's one of the new york guys. He moved, I don't know it's season two. He moves, he moves from, he might be season two, though. He moves from, he moves from New York to

Jersey, but that might be in season three. All right, but Johnny, he's got, maybe more like a Johnny Sack. Like a Sack's kind of old when the show starts already, right? What's that? He's a little older when the show starts, right? Yeah, he's too much older, but he's like, yeah, and my grandfather definitely, my grandfather actually, you know he's more

like, and you definitely haven't met him yet, but he's been mentioned many times, is Feet-Lamana. Robert Loja. Oh, sure. I think that's more, that's for, my grandfather was more like Feetlamana. Okay, I'll wait for him. 100%. 100%.

So me and Feetcher and watching Predator. And he's, so I remember seeing that. But anyway, we're watching it with my wife. He shows up with the cigar. And I'm telling my wife's not a dude movie. And she's like, so she already looks at me, side-eyed. And then he goes and meets Carl Weathers. Yeah.

Dylan. And he walks over. And they have clamp hands in this. close up on their muscles as they're like, my wife goes, I'm out of here and she just leaves. My favorite line. My favorite line in that whole scene, because we always would joke about it on action. Pushing pencils?

Well, no, it's before that. It's because it's right before he meets Weathers. Because Schwarzenegger at that time, his accent's pretty, pretty, but he's so confident. He has so much confidence, and he's just always grinning. And so the one guy's like, he's like a Russian cabinet minister, went over the border four days ago. And Schwarzenegger goes,

this cabinet minister, he's always travel on the wrong side of the border. And you're like, and you're like, What did you just say? Yes. But like everybody takes it totally at face value. It's just amazing. Watch it with subtitles. It's incredible.

Yeah. You're on the board? It's so good. What do you doing? What is he saying? When he's talking about the, he asked him if he says because we, it was a rescue mission.

We're not the assassins. Not the assassins. Yeah. So good. It's, it's like, guys, shut the fuck. It is.

It is incredible. I need to watch. I miss the whole Schwarzenegger era. So, I mean, look, so this is what Steph has been, since since,

since Steph has been on, the show. I have been pushing her down these. Like this is also, we've also gone through the, the dating advice thing on the show too. You are going to just blow people away when you're on dates and you start throwing heat and predator and, and like, you know, all these reference, they're going to be like, wait a minute. So, so far we have Heat Terminator. Terminator. Terminator 1 you saw. Terminator 1 you saw. And 2. You watched 1 and 2 recently? So since I told you. Yes. Oh, we didn't talk about this. So my favorite, and I want to see you feel the same because, I mean, my favorite is number one.

That's T1, yeah. Because a lot of people like two, because it's definitely the more high budget. It was, it, it, it went, it, that's a science fiction action movie. The first one's a horror film. Straight up. And I love that movie more than anything. It's dated as far as some of the, some of the, you know, makeup. But that was what I noticed.

But his, his mascara was, yeah. But I, I love them. So good. Really, really good. Yeah, I don't know what I like better. I think I remember watching the second one and thinking I liked the premise of the first one better. It's just so, it was so clever. And he will not stop until you are dead. And she's like, oh, she just like sinks into the chair. It's like Michael Bean is so good in that movie.

Cage is watching recently too. Yeah, one's really freaky. Two, for sure is like more iconic now just because it's considered by a lot of people that changed the game as far as tech point too. Yeah. And like, and like, and Landon Hamilton just like next levels in that movie, she's like such a badass. I mean, you watch that scene when she comes the end and she's got the gun. She's like one arm and she comes over the thing to take him out. It's like, so good. She's such a badass doing the polls. That's why I hated that last movie because they made her into a cartoon version of herself. Yeah.

Oh, I haven't seen. I didn't even know there was third. That's the fifth one. Sixth. Oh, my God. The sixth one? That's the sixth one. You can stop it too and you'll be fine.

It's like Rush Hour 1 and 2. The third one has moments. It's not even the same guy playing John Connor anymore. And the end of the third one is really good. Like the very last scene. I don't have a grip on it. starts to get stupid and more stupid. And I,

there was a series. There was a Sarah, the Sarah Connor Chronicles. Remember that, yeah. And Lena Heady from, from Game of Thrones, Cersie, Lannister played,

yeah, for quite a while it was on. The blind spot. But yeah, but you enjoyed it? Yeah. It's really, really good. It's really good.

It made me, I just had such a wrong interpretation of what 80s films were like. Oh, man. I don't know why. Well, I hate any films for the record. Do you really? You don't.

know this? My least favorite decade. I like can't stand them. The good ones I love, but the bad 80s movies. I think that's what it is. I, yeah, there's a lot of bad 90s movies. There's a lot of bad 2000 movies. For sure. I think it's, there's a certain vibe that 80s that are like not good have that is so, so distinctly 80s that like those ones just lose me every time. To me, 80s, I think is the best era in film ever. There's so many movies to me that like Empire Strikes Back stands out right away. Raiders of the Lost Ark stands out. E.T. stands out, Raging Bull stands out. I mean, Hell, man.

I mean, Goodfellas just missed it. It was, I think it was 1990. Yeah. So, but there's so many, there's so many movies that came out in the, Cape Fear. That's 90s. Is that 90s? Okay, but there's still, there's still a lot of, this, I mean, all the Rocky movies, basically. Rocky, Rocky, Rocky, Three, Four, I guess, or.

Yeah. I mean, it's a, it's a decade, right? So, like, obviously, you're going to have tons and tons of iconic movies. Every movie you just named, is great. Yeah. And you can say the same for any decade. I just think probably for both of us. It's the same thing.

Like they're just, my memories of the bad 90s movies are different because they're like closer to growing up for me. Same. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, that's, I mean,

that was the 80s for me. Yeah, you grew up. All those, like, Rambo. You know that genre in the 80s that Skiliki used to write about in Chimauda all the time? The 80s adventure movies.

Yeah. There's, war games and short circuit and goonies. Like, those are the ones that by and large are not my thing. And that's, people love it. You don't like the goonies?

I like the goonies. I just watch, you know what, and it's not like you guys are anywhere close to this, but once you have children of your own, watch the goonies with them. Yeah. Because I watch the goonies with my oldest, and like she just, it's like such a, it's just an adventure movie for kids. It's a great movie. I mean, yeah, it is.

Every kid wants to be a kid from the Goonies. That's like the best thing, like the Alice in Wonderland. You want to fall down the rabbit hole. 100%. 100%. And it's just so much fun inside of those movies. That's why I go back and I watch. watch 80s movies all the time.

Like when people were watching, whatever the hell it was, was that like Mortal Kombat came out. And everybody was rushing to watch Moral Kombat. I watched about last night with Demi Moore and Rob Lo. And it's like, I just like to go back into that time. And I also think it's a pushback

because I used to have to watch everything. Yeah. Like three or four times a week. I'm watching every little movie, every movie. And I saw everything. And I didn't, like, as you're saying, you don't have an opportunity to watch TV as much because you're always studying for the Shmodown.

that was me. I never could go back and watch some of the older stuff, and now that's all I do. I just watch, I mean, even last night, my wife and I were watching, we watched the news.

It's the first thing we do it at night. Like, I totally am an 85-year-old man at this point. And I, I watched the news every night, and then last night, my wife goes, all right,

I'm going to go to sleep, you can watch the sopranos. And I'm like, and I'm like, oh, I wanted to hang out with you. She's like, shut the fuck up.

You want to watch the sopranos. And I was like, all right, so I turned on the sopranos. And she was watching some Reese Withersfield movie, which I want nothing to do with. Some of them. Some of them were great. Some of them, but the one that she was watching, I had nothing. Not that one with Paul Rudd sucks, unfortunately.

It was sweet home or something or stay home? What the hell was it called? Oh, no, home again. Home again. The one from like 17? That's what it was. Home again. So, and I'm like, no, I'm good.

And I watched it. So you're in season three right now or season two? What part of season two? So it's after, like, Meadows running game on her parents. It's grounding herself with, like, fake her credit card away. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, the, oh, the, the. Oh, because she had the party in the house.

Yeah, exactly. And the lead boss, he died, but his brother came back from jail. Jackie and Richie, Richie Appreel's that. Richie, yeah. Richie is a mixture, the actor is a mixture of Al Pacino and Henry Winkler. Oh, my, he's wild. He's great, didn't he? He ran over someone, broke their legs.

Maybe he can't walk. Beansy. Yeah. Who plays him? I'm trying to remember. I can't remember the guy's name, but he really, if you look at him, he's, he's Al Pacino meets, meets Henry Winkler. But one of my favorite parts, it's just like, so, it's like, now it's clicking lines

that people used to say, and I didn't get the reference. Yeah. When he's talking to Tony and he's like, they were kind of getting after it about his mom and he goes, how's your sister? Right. And he's like, I thought, are you actually asking how your sister, how you're mother? Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's trying to get with his sister. I'm like, you sneaky bastard. Yeah, yeah. Because they dated. They dated in high school and they have them come back and like all that, all that information. Like, yeah, so you're how many episodes in on that season? I think seven. Yeah, because Richie keeps, Richie's like, you know, it's a hot head.

Yeah. He's a real hot head. But doing yoga. He's right. Right. And that's, that's all that stuff. So season, season two might be my favorite season out of all this season. It's so fucking good.

Season three, I'll tell you, though, I will say this. The reason I started. to do not only the rewatch for the for the Newark movie that's coming out but I also wanted to test because when I watched them back in the day one two and three were phenomenal I remember thinking that and then I remember waiting like

two years for season four and then another two and you get to wait so long for these seasons because then contract negotiations and all that stuff and you didn't get it like forever and I remember being let down when some of them came out because I had waited for so long but watching them in order like this like I went right from the season

finale of season three within minutes to season four episode one and it played so much better than I remember it because any reference that came up that I would have forgotten because I hadn't seen this show in two years it was fresh in my mind yeah so when there's these little references of things that just happened I'm like oh okay that connects and they're still connecting when you're waiting two years and there's a reference that goes over your head it doesn't have the same significance in that moment so 100% yeah I remember when when when he passed away, rest in peace, James Gandalfini. I remember watching that episode.

You haven't gotten there yet. I think it's in season four. You said you're on four now. I'm on four. So the whole thing with the beach house, the white caps it's called, I think. Oh, yeah, which is that, is that with Bacala? No, it's like he wants to buy that. Tony wants to buy this beach house, right, right?

Yeah, I think it's four. It hasn't happened yet. I mean, I'm early into it, and it's like, and it's the Columbus Day episode. Okay, yeah. I mean, I haven't seen any of it since it was first half. This is Columbus Day episode. With the blowjaw? You know, remember when they're just talking about,

it's, who is it? It's Sylvia, he's like, there's two things, or no, it's Polly. Pussy, he's like, there's two things I'm good at. He's like, something and knowing blowjob lips. And when the, the whole conversation at the table is about Blotoff. It's like six minutes of blowjob talk. That was, unbelievable.

That was good. Have you gotten, have you gotten, it was season one when the whole thing about junior eating pussy. Like, like, oh, yeah, Boka. That's my favorite episode so far. It's incredible. It's incredible. It's just like, you all are crazy. When, when they're playing, when they're playing golf and Tony's like, oh, he's got him in the muff.

He's like, what? In the rough. In the rough. In the rough. He just busted his balls. It's so good. It's so good. There's so many people things like that.

My favorite is, and Pauly just is so inappropriate and the stuff that Paulie says. And like when. He's so racist, right? He's so. But they have, they have an episode where it's, it's that whole episode with, the with the Hasidics when the hotel episode in season one. Yes. And so basically the same guy who plays Morty and Goodfellas, right?

He's trying to get his son-in-law out of his hotel business. So he basically hires Tony and his crew to go to business with him. So Silvio and Polly go to this guy and they're trying to intimidate him. And the guy's not bagging down. He's tough. And Paulie slams his head on the fucking bell, the bell thing. And he goes, listen here, you weird old fuck. It's like the stuff that Paulie says sometimes

And he does that whole thing You know He's like you never forget your Your first blow job is what someone says And then and Paulie goes oh yeah What was his name? Yeah That's that's so

But Paulie always does this He goes Tone you hear what I said And Tons sitting right next to him And he goes you know what I says to him He says you never forget your first blow job And I says to him What was his name? And he's like it's the best

Tony doesn't give a shit. No, Tony doesn't give a shit. His looks and the things, like, so good. And the whole thing with Annabelle Escura is, that's going to be this stuff that you're going to be like, wow. Like, that's season three. Okay. So once. Yeah, I forgot about that.

There's so many episodes that I remember. There's like an episode called Pine Barrens, I remember. Pine Barrens is like one of the most famous ones. That's season three. That's season three? Yeah. That's so funny. That's like one of the most famous episodes.

And that was, and that's a crazy, that's a crazy episode. He goes, he killed 16 Texas Vaccians. He was an interior decorator. And he goes, his house looked like shit. Yeah. That's like one of my favorite lines in the whole show. Ever, ever. It's, it's, they're, Maltesanti and, and Pauly Walnuts together are great.

But they have a podcast that I've been talking about in this show. Oh, really? And it's Steve Sharper who played Bacala and Michael Imperi. Okay. And it's really good. They go episode by episode and they have tons of guests on it. It's a fun one. You have fun rewatch, honestly.

Maybe I'll try to catch up with you guys. Dude, try it. Try it because it's like, because I'm leading up to, I did the math on it, and I'm, I'm pretty sure I'll be done with the whole series. Before the movie. Right. Yeah, I think, I think a few weeks beforehand. So if you're in season and you're doing, when are you going? You're going to watch a ton this weekend?

I'm going to watch a ton this weekend. You'll, you, because that's what I would like. I like, if you and I are done, then we can watch the movie. Yeah. And then we'll review the movie together on this show when it comes out, like, on that episode. Well, I might just get a suit. I'm not kidding you. It comes out on my birthday.

So I'm like, I'm doing a whole big, my wife's doing the meatballs and, and we're doing the whole thing. And I'm, I'm getting, I'm going to have a full glass of wine. And I'm going to grab,

I might grab a couple of these desserts that you brought over. But like I'm going to, but yeah, I'm just, I'm just, that's, that's my birthday. My birthday is just watching many saints of Newark on a night of.

So everyone listening, beyond our timeline. Yeah. So that when, when does it come out? It comes October 1. October 1st. October 1st.

Be ready. She's going to show up full on cosplay is Tony, and she's going to say the most inappropriate shit she can think of. I'll be ready for you. She's got blowjob, lips part, too. She's going to have a whole conversation about it. I'm just going to talk about, like, Sylvia for the entire episode. Thank you for joining us today.

Ben Bateman. He talks too much. I'm going to hit him with his guitar. Sing him a fucking song when he's out. I love him to have him do it. I think it's early on, right? They have him do the Godfather three thing. They always wanted to do it.

No, yeah. So, dude, they tell the whole. story. They told the whole story in that show. Like he was, it was, it was him. The dude who played Jackie and Gandalfini. Those were the three finalists for Tony. Okay, got to got to go. So they liked Stephen Van Zanzant so much.

They knew he wasn't right for Tony, but they liked him so much. Sylvia wasn't even a character. They wrote him in. And they put him in the pilot. In the pilot, he's not even part of the crew. Pilot, he's just a guy who owns the Bada Bing. Yeah. And then they liked him so much that they wrote him in that he was part of the crew in episode two. Because episode one,

was shot in 1997. Oh, right. It was approved in 98. And you can see how different the kids look. Totally. In the pilot versus episode two, they look completely. 100% because they shot it in 97. They approved the series in 98.

They shot episode 2 in 98. And then they released in 99. Yeah. Yeah, so it was two years before the pilot went. So, anyway, so in the other, there's a lot of the audience, a lot of the audiences are writing me and telling me how much they've been rewatching now.

because of us. Yeah. And there's a lot of the audience is probably going to be like, okay, thank God the fucking series, the movie came out, October, they stopped talking about the fucking soprano. It's never going to stop. It's never going to stop, but it's true. But there's, the suicide squad, though, is the movie that, you know, as we said, it is the big thing that everyone's going to be talking about. Everything

was talking about this weekend. People have now seen it. More comments are coming out about it. I mean, it released, I think, on Thursday night. So did you wind up liking it? I loved it. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I walked out of it and it was but I guess it's, this is, so that's not like last week, a couple days before it came out.

And like, I just couldn't believe that the movie got made the way it got made. It just felt like everything about it felt like a movie that James Gunn, like a B movie that he wrote and would have made without a budget, without IP, and without these characters. He just would have made up his own characters. He seemed small? No, it's huge, but he could have just not shot the big action sequences and he could have told the same story. Because like, other than, really other than Harley, none of the rest of the characters I had any attachment in going in anyway. Is this spoilers or we're not, no spoilers? No spoilers. I haven't seen yet.

And I just walked out of it and was like, that totally feels like a movie that James Gunn would have made as an indie director. And it would have felt the writing would have been the same. The comedy would have been the same. Just as R-rated. The effects would have been like cheaper, but just as gory probably. And it's crazy that he's able to do it because they think they just gave him a blank check. And they were just like, look, you made Guardians work. Do this for us.

And it totally works. And you loved it. I loved it. I feel the exact same way. It's just I like when studios. give directors who, like, the chance to do what they want to do, and it was so perfect for these characters. I don't think it could have been done in any other way.

It had to be that gory. It had to be that gross. It had to be that weird. All of the characters, I'm glad we didn't have attachments to because they just were like, I don't really care if you die or live, but I just want you to put on a good show, and that's what they did. It's also regime change as far as Warner Brothers goes, right?

Because back when I, like, when the David Air, version came out, the leadership over there was in disarray. And the way that it was put together, and I've said it many times over, DC has gotten such a handle on their property. And they don't, they stopped a long time ago, stopped trying to play catch up with Marvel. And they just believed in the material that they had and knew that the characters are strong and, and they, they went after it. And they did that with the Joker. They did that with, I mean, by releasing the Snyder cut, they made that decision. I know there was a lot, there was a lot, behind that, but I think like those versions

and the things that they've put out show you, and they can also make something family friendly, not family friendly, but lighter like Shazam, right? And I think that doing a movie like this also shows this is what this property calls for, and it is, I mean, I haven't seen it, but I would assume that this is like their version, like their version, even though they're not comparing it or trying to, but like Deadpool.

Yes. Right. It is, it is like Deadpool. I think the other thing about this movie is that like, so many people are like, well, release the air cut. And like, I had a whole thing over on our channel about it, but like there's no way that the air cut, even if it's totally in his hands,

is anything like this movie. Because there's so few directors that have a handle on the material as much as James Gunn. Like, you know, when you watch an Edgar Wright movie, you're like, this is an Edgar Wright movie 100%. Like, I can feel it in the writing, I can feel it in the pacing, the style. There's guys that are autours.

Like, that is James Gun, T, T. And that's why Guardians works, and it's why this movie works. Most directors who are doing superhero films, who get hired, even if they're really good, they're not Taika, right? Like, there's a reason Ragner Rock feels like Ragnarok. You've got to have a guy like that

if you want to get the result you're going to get. It's why Todd Phillips did the Joker, because he's a weird old comedy director. But when you're hiring just sort of, I don't want to say Joe Schmoe, but like really good talent to do your movie, you're going to get something that feels like the brand. And that's what I think Disney has done largely with Marvel

and also with a lot of the Star Wars stuff recently. That's what some of those last ones felt like, right? Rise of Skywalker is supposed to sort of feel like a classic Star Wars movie. It's supposed to have that DNA, whereas Last Jedi, totally different. And I know it's divisive. People have their opinions on it. But it feels like a Ryan Johnson movie more so than classic Star Wars. Yeah, I agree with that for sure.

It's the, I mean, when you compare it, Last Jedi is definitely as far as the best, as far as film goes. You can't compare, even the people who hate it. As far as a film goes, it is the best made film. out of the three. It's my least favorite out of all of them, but it is the, it is the visually. It's just,

structure-wise, dialogue, things, I mean, whether you, whether you, like it or not, and I, and I hate most of the choices

in the damn movie. It's, you can't compare it to, I mean, if you ask me right now, you get to watch, you can only watch two, one of these movies

in Star Wars Forever. And as much of a torture this would be, you either get, Last Jedi, or Rise of Skywalker. I'm thinking Rise of Skywalker, every single time. Interesting, okay.

It's cotton, candy. Is it a good movie? No, it really isn't, but it's cotton candy and it has elements. It has things of Star Wars that I like more so where it's got that more light flavor feel of what you were talking about. That Star Wars thing is there, even if they miss the mark with a lot of it. Now you ask me, you only get to watch season one of Mandalorian.

It's for me ranking, this is, we've talked about it's on Sith. My Empire Shanks Back is number one. Number two is Star Wars, New Hope, and then number three is Mandalorian Season 1, and number four is Mandalorian Season 2. What's the worst Star Wars movie? Just theatrically released Star Wars movie, not the shitty old ones.

Go ahead. The Last Jedi. Of all Star Wars movies? In terms of viewing. If you're asking... Oh, with Solo and... Oh, solo. If you're asking as far as what...

And again, it's a different question. Are you asking me which one I like to watch, at all the movies, if I'm going to pick one to watch, which is the last one I'm going to pick, or is it, what do you think is the worst made one? The worst. I just figured you guys were going to say attack of the clones,

not even considered it. No, no, no. Worst made one is attack of the clones. The dialogue is really hard to watch. And I don't really love Yoda flipping all over the place. I've been pretty vocal on that. I think is it cool and like, oh, look at Yoda doing that. To me, that's not what Yoda was.

It fights Duku at the end? Is that what it is? He fights Duku and he's flipping off the wall. And is it cool yet? It's cool. But then he goes back to, like, you know, hobbling and it's like, it's just like a parlor trick. Right.

It's not really like, you know, that's not what Yoda needed to do. Yeah. Empire that shows exactly that's not what he needed to do. But as far as, again, if you were like, you've got to watch one right now, would you rather watch? Like, we're doing a whole rewatch for Sith. Yeah. Counsel.

And for those people who didn't know, we're going to be doing after Clone Wars next week, we start from episode one all the way to the end, all the movies. Okay, got it. Minus the animated ones. But I'm looking more forward to watching. attack of the clones than I am last Jedi. Interesting. Yeah, I, for me, and it's probably my age and, like, gender might play a part into this. I loved Padmae so much when I was growing up.

And she was sick in that movie for me. Yeah. Like, obviously, and when you're young, you don't get how toxic some of, like, the romantic scenes were written. But I loved it. And so I still have that affinity for it in a way that it's easier for me to rewatch than The Last Jedi. It is really bad dialogue. Like they're, they're about to go out to their death. She's given no indication that she really is even interested in them.

And then she goes, I madly, deeply, truly love you. How did that happen? Was it when I told you I murdered the Sand Kids a little while ago? I don't think that honestly, I don't think honestly that I've watched it all the way through since 2002 in theaters. It's not good. I'm pretty sure it's the only one. It is, it is by far, it is by far out of all the movies, the worst made one with the worst dialogue. And that's the difference.

And that's what I was talking about as far as best made film, overall film, filmmaking. You can't, no matter how much you want to go on message boards and spew hatred, you can't say that Ryan Johnson is a bad filmmaker. He's a brilliant filmmaker. Yeah, I think he is so incredible. I'm so excited for all of the knives out there coming and anything else he's doing. But I will say, when I think of more cringe dialogue, there are such cringe dialogue. Last Jedi. You know what it is about Last Jedi?

Is that... Between Rose and... Oh, yeah. That's the bad stuff. That's the bad stuff. The Last... The Last Jedi, for me, it's... I've never gone through something like this before to where it's just like... I remember just going...

When I saw it the first time in the theater, I just... I didn't tweet out about it. I didn't talk about it. I was like, I just got to think on this. And then I saw it again and tried to convince myself. And I convinced myself that... It was that. It was what I just said.

I saw a well-me- made film and I saw a really brilliant filmmaker make a movie. She just didn't like it. And I'm like, oh no, I really, you know what? It did do this. And then there was still something wrong with it. And then I watched it again with my daughter and I watched it with my wife. And every single time I felt myself like, I don't really want to be watching this movie. I don't like watching this movie. And it just kept happening every single time. And it would pass on like, and if somebody was watching it, I left the room. And I never did that for Star Wars. And I was like, oh, man, this is just, okay, I'm finding. And I have found myself throughout the, you know, because people will use it.

Well, you said you liked it. Yeah, well, at one point, at one point I, I would watch it and I was getting the confusion of the, of the good filmmaking. I love Ryan Johnson. But I'm not one of these people. I'm not one of these people that are going to be like, well, Ryan Johnson ruined Star Wars. You told me that Ryan Johnson was going to direct an episode of Mandalorian. I wouldn't be like, what, he's going to ruin the Mandalorian?

That's silly thinking for two reasons. First, I don't think you should do it because why deal with all the shit that's going to come your way? the guy directed some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad ever. Did he really? Yes, Osmondias. He did Osmond James, man. I didn't know that.

Dude, he did the Fly episode. Oh, he's incredible episodes. He is a phenomenal director. And if, and if they said, the problem was not Ryan Johnson. The problem was, hey, I want to do this. And Lucas was like, yeah, blank check. There you go. That was the problem.

It was not him. It was the fact that they said, yeah, do what you got to do. I mean, it's way more, that's funny because it's now full-sort. circles us back to the beginning of the conversation, which is the idea of James Gunn making this suicide squad movie. And that's essentially the freedom he got. And if you look at like the classic history of Hollywood, sometimes that works. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes you get Michael Chimino making like Heaven's Gate or sometimes you'll get something like amazing. Like I mean, obviously Snyder cut is a movie that overall I really like a lot of it. I think a lot of it's great. But that's Zach Snyder getting to shoot four plus hours of movie, right? Like even without the reshoots, it's still him getting to shoot three and a half almost four hours of movie. Because they're like, we just trust you, do what you want to do. And the best parts are great. And the singing by the lake that goes on for like 40 seconds is... You know what one's that?

It's the beginning of the movie when like you go and meet Aquaman and there's like some... Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right. That's the part. Like Celtic singing or something. I mean, I'm probably misquoting it, but like... With the doll. Yeah, and you're just watching and you're like, wow, somebody didn't just say like, dude, you don't really need to show this for like 18 seconds.

So you can just like... It was more than that. It felt like very long, yeah. But I agree with you like, Suicide Squad. I was telling Christian, you don't need to have seen the first one to watch the second one. And there's just an inherent difference in the characters with Star Wars and you're doing a trilogy were expected to follow a set of 45 characters. But things were set up.

Things were set up in that first movie that were clearly thrown to the side in the second movie. And then, and you got to say the same thing for JJ in the third. He then said, Nah. What a mess. It's just a mess all the way around. But that's why I mean. But the way finder.

Right, right, right. So how you find... The beginning, it's like the first, like, first opening scene of how, like, where we are. That's what they need to do. Yes. Sith finder, Sith finder. You think you were talking about the thing that finds...

Oh, yeah. Right. But, but... Yeah, right, the Sith finder. But anyway, so, like, it's funny. Like, because I'll never... I don't know... I'm looking forward to rewashing the prequels.

I'm actually looking forward. the only problem I really have with, I mean, I have told myself with Solo, I watch Solo as if it's not a Han Solo movie. I watch it as like a separate, like, a venture. It's just like a different bounty. Because I think the kid does a great job. I think he does a great job. It's nothing to do with him.

I just don't buy him as Hans Solo, but I buy him as a different character. And I'm going to watch it like that when I watch it in general. And I'm going to get away from Lady Proxima. Yeah. In the beginning, I taught you about this. So Lady Proxima is this big worm-like creature. Okay. If she pops out, and the movie would have been Solo is seeing her, and she pops out,

and she goes, humba there goes, somebody got do, that's a da. And you see underneath it, Solo, this, this, this. You're like, whoa, this is crazy. Oh, you're my this, he's a bomb dunga. Instead, it's, oh, Solo, you're trying to pull another one on us, ha! And it's like, what is this, the Muppets? It's like, aliens can use subtitles. That's what is so great about Star Wars.

I never, uh, here we go with this stupid thing again. Oh, it's going slow. It's glitching again. I don't know why it's glitching is with this whole thing with, Steph's bedlock.

Steph, move twice as fast. You'll look normal. I don't know why it, but, yeah, yeah, just looked like a fly in the exact.

I don't know. For some reason, and we got to do a shorter episode again because of it, but before we do, I do want to let you guys know that we were very excited about, um, no, not about me undies,

although it is great if you haven't, you haven't checked out. out. I'm going to show you guys. It's not that guy. There it is. So on the channel, there's so many people that have been, we're thrilled with the success of the Shmodeown Collision for.

It was amazing. We partnered up officially with Captain Morgan, the original Spiced Rum. Such a great event. It is on the channel now. Please be over the 90,000 people who have watched the Shmodown Collision. Great matches that we had. We had Saul versus Amaru Moses, Laura Kelly versus Andrew Demalanta, Kevin Smith versus Marisol McKee and the team's championship.

It was Corruption versus Shazam. Please go and check it out. And please, no matter how you decide to watch and stream the Shmodeown, do it responsibly when you are celebrating with Captain Morgan. It is such a pleasure to have been working with them. And we look forward to doing it again. So please go and check out the collision. And we appreciate you.

So what I'm hoping is that we're able to continue to do this episode without all the glitching. I don't know what's going on with this thing. That looks okay now. It is for a little bit. And then we'll see. We'll see. Maybe when I switch. The audio doesn't glitch.

That's just the video. The audio doesn't glitch. It's for some reason the video. Our whole video last week was glitchy. The one that we did. But we're looking forward to going to, we're moving this show. We're not this episode. This episode's still on the main channel, but next Monday we're moving everything over to

the new channel, S-C-N channel, because everything is just going to be Shmowdown on this main channel because we have so many things coming out, especially with next year with all the changes that we have going on and we're going to be doing in studio. I got great news to tell you guys off air. Oh, exciting. Big news that I can't announce just yet, but there's some very exciting news I got on, got the other day that the fans are going to lose their minds about. So one of the biggest, I think one of the biggest announcements that Shmodon's ever had.

Really? I think so. I'm surprised I haven't heard yet. I'm surprised I haven't heard yet. Not yet, not yet. But we'll tell you a little bit. But don't forget also this upcoming Saturday, if you haven't already bought your tickets,

Mike Kalanowski versus Chandrew Don DePonnie. It is going to be for the Inner Geekdom Championship at the Scumman Villeney Cantina. Man, what a match that's going to be. Who do you got? That one? You know, I've learned my lesson rooting against Mike at this point. I've made a career of rooting against Mike

and watching him win. it's like my least favorite thing. Is your strategy to choose him so he loses? I don't, there's like, I feel like there's actually some bad blood with these guys. Like, that's when I want to. I think so. I mean, I haven't watched them interact in person, maybe almost ever, actually. Yeah.

And the interactions I've had with Chandra have actually been pretty good overall. Mike and I have come through the fire full circle now. You know, we're definitely, we're friends now. But there's that vibe that I get that Mike seems to have with everybody before, like, the big showdown happens. He used to have it with Guy a little bit. Yeah, and I definitely had it. And I, some of the stuff I've seen on Twitter, I just feel like... They want to beat the hell out of each other.

I think so. It's that same vibe I got with Smets. They both want to beat the hell out of each other. And I think that that's... And I'll guarantee you, and I'll put a lot of money on this. This is the first time these two guys are ever playing. Yeah. I guarantee you that they wind up having the same relationship that Mike and Smets have now. Yeah. Like, they wind up becoming close after they play.

Like, right now, they both are looking for dominance because if Chandra wins, he will be the first, he'll be the, he'll join the Mara and Mike club as two-time champion. Tim champs, yeah. If Mike wins, he finally defends the IG title. And then Mike will go on to play Amaru Moses. Yeah. Or Changer will go on to play him. And then that kid could be such a stealer, though, or a party pooper, if you will, because

I don't think there's anybody, and this is nothing against Sam. It's because he's rookies, three and O. But I don't think there's anybody that's given him a fighting chance against either Changer or Mike, right? Yeah. So he could. He could, because I bet you both Chandrew and Mike already been thinking about him right now. Amaru?

Amonoo. And if Mike or Chandrew play Amadu, and they think, okay, it's an easy defense, I'm going to Spectacular. Amaru crashes the party. And Amaru is the one going into Spectacular holding that championship. That is going to be something that no one. That could potentially get him rookie of the year. I mean, Amaroo is the real deal.

He's dope. We were both there at the taping. the collision taping and like I think everybody had a pretty different sense of what was going to happen in that match that went end up actually happening that was crazy to watch he was very he was he was he was in the pocket he was in the pocket he was right he was he was locked in he was locked in for sure and you know the question is though because of timing well that IG match will that him versus mike or chandrew will it be digital I don't know yeah don't know that's going to be tough but anyway um so happy mike chandra's in person I just want you know I'm so you guys

You guys can get those tickets, and there's only, I don't even know, but at the time we get this, it might be sold out, but it's the Shmodeon Live.com, it's at the Scumman Villany Cantina. Bars open, kitchens open, really good burgers there, by the way. So you can go and. Everything there is. Really, really good. It's a good vibe. Yeah, good vibes all around.

And you can actually watch, by the way, you can watch Ethan versus Dan. That's going to be live on the channel today at Monday on 2 p.m. PST. It's going to be live there. It was on pay-per-view on Friday, but it's going to be a lot. Live to everybody, 2 p.m. PST. So make sure you check that out. And you can see how the, how the can'tina match played in general. So you can check that out. There's going to be some other matches on the card that day. New York, October 9th. We got the Shmodeonlive.com. Please go and check out the tickets over there. And then December 4th is spectacular.

That's going to be, that's going to be crazy. You'll be hosting the pre-show, I'm assuming, for that one. We'll talk about it, obviously. But Steph will be there. You'll obviously be there, whether you're competing or not. I think I'm actually planning on being at every one of the events you just mentioned. Oh, you're going to be in New York also? 14th for sure. Yeah. Yeah, New York.

I haven't seen my family in a little while. So I think I'll be out there to see them. Yeah, that'll be fun. And yeah, I love the New York shows. They're always so much fun. Maybe we'll do karaoke again like last time. We started putting together the tour of like where we're going. Like we're looking like so.

And that's the other thing. So people, I'm going to put it in the description here. But please go and fill out your, my JP, who runs all the live event stuff, does all the date on where people want to go. where do you think the city is the most that people have requested? For some reason I get the feeling it's probably Chicago. You say Chicago, what do you say? Boston.

Boston. Really? Boston is the number one city and we're going to do a poll to see. Again, that was the data that's been compiled over the last year and a half or so. So we're going to see how it's changed, like a new poll with it and see where people want us to go. But Boston, Philly is where we're going to go. There's a lot of these places that we're like, I really want to go to Canada.

I want to go to London. But that we need to. Oh, my gosh. Dine and go to London. But that we need that we need for a, we need a sponsor for London because, because you got to be able to, you got to be able to pay for the whole,

the whole thing. I'm planning on doing, uh, that's like a two show. I'm going to do London on Dublin for next year. Right. Probably as I get closer to the summer. You got one person to take.

Yeah. I'll just take it just me and a guitar. That's all you got to do. But I think I'm going to try to, same deal. So I can get 30 to 50 people a show kind of a thing. Did you hear, so did you know that when Dan Merrill brought,

brought his, uh, on the, on the plane on the way over to, to when he played Ethan, the TSA thought it was a weapon. A saw. They thought it was a saw, just got the ridges.

And they go, why are you bringing a saw on the plane? When I brought it to... Can you imagine if a psycho brought a saw on a plane? I mean, yeah. I've got some construction I have to do when I get there. What do you want for me? I remember I brought it to Atlanta back a year and a half ago. And the TSA guy, you know, he opened up my suitcase and he took it out and he looked at it.

And he like, looked at me. And then he looked at it again. And he was like, Rock and roll, man. Yeah. This is pretty cool. I remember I had to transfer them over somewhere once. Yeah.

And he's like, you're the champ. I'm like, no, I'm not the champ. I'm like, I'm bringing them to the champ. He's like, oh, that's cool. That's cool. And like, I don't know. You tell the champ. How much do they lay?

They're pretty, I mean, they're pretty heavy. They're not as heavy as the old IG belt. The old IG belt will, like, poor Mara. I know. And she had the injury, too. She was coming off the injury. And you can see her. I have the old IG belt here.

I'll let you hold it. It is an old school, like, boxing heavyweight belt that, like, Vladimir Klitschko would probably hold up. It, we had to change it. The new belt, the IG belt is fantastic. So, anyway, that goes down, that goes down on Sunday, so, or Saturday. So make sure you check that out. Have you ever considered trying to take a run at competing? No.

I like my position in the talk. I like talking about it. I like watching it. She's becoming, like, you can see, even with her interviews and stuff, too. She's doing the research for it. Like she, yeah, I'm like,

well, watching old matches. I'm just becoming a fan of it, like an actual fan. So I'm like rewatching, looking at the beef between everyone and like getting it. So Christian knew like he could tell when it was starting to click for me. I'm like,

yeah, I feel like I feel it now. Yeah. And she, and you did the interviews on, at the canteen. I did great job. And thanks again to J.C.

Rifenberg, who owns the place and he's the FCL Star Wars thing. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so are you guys, what else is going on? Any other movies that are,

that are coming out, do you guys give a shit about? I got a couple of things that I can tell you about. I can't review yet because the embargo's not up, but there's the Aretha Franklin movie, respect. Oh, right, right. I can't wait. I just saw it two days ago. I passed on the screen.

Yeah, all I can say. I really want to see it. I do want to see it. I just pass on every screen. She's obviously, Jennifer Hudson's got an insane voice, like a crazy voice. And so the best thing about that movie is that she's very connected to the character and her voice is nuts. Yeah.

So that's coming up. Is it a typical biopic movie though? Yeah. Same formula. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's the hardest, it's one of the hardest genres to make a movie. How she gets discovered, the trial and tribulations, gaining fame, the downs. You know what the hardest thing about this genre is, is that in almost every story, they're based on reality.

And in reality, it's always some dickbag male character who's controlling the star. Whether you're talking about it's a male star or a female star, because we saw with Boerap and we saw with Rocket Man. Same thing, right? They're in love with men, but the men are controlling them. And it's the same with women. Where they become kind of the main character, even though they're the... Just watch the Billy Holiday movie? Very similar.

No, yeah, United States. That one. I haven't seen it. But it's like always so frustrating to watch these movies because it's just like, this feels like a predictable movie plot, except this is based on reality. So there's no way this is a predictable movie. This is actually what happened.

It's not so much of a movie plot as much as it's the formula. It's the way that all these biopics are written. And it's like, what's going to be the most interesting? It's like, well, everybody wants to see how they became famous. Everybody wants to see some of their greatest songs. Everybody wants to see this. And if there's a big moment or tragedy in their life, people, we've got to cover that. And that's usually what happens.

And I think that, you know, there's no way around it because that's just kind of how it goes. And unfortunately, the subject dies. And you're going to have to show that. It was a tragic way that they die or if it's natural a way that they go. And so I'm very much looking forward to seeing it. But like I said, I'll wait for it to. Yeah, I will probably too. I'm seeing, this is a funny thing, so, you know, we get invited all these screenings.

So I am going on Saturday morning at 10 a.m. Paul Patrol. Yeah. Are you really? I've never seen. Are you on by yourself? Are you on by yourself? About wanting to watch it.

I've never seen, it's be probably still at RSVP. I mean, it's 10 a.m. Saturday. My plan is, I got these edibles, like, like, these, like, big ropes. Fucking weird out. Yeah. And I rarely take them. My plan, though, is to go, you know, safely. Get, like, super, super stone, and I'm going to vlog it.

You'll see it. And I'm going to watch it. And I'm going to watch Pobotry. I know nothing about it. Do you know how upset I am about this, though? Because this would have easily been my, my youngest first movie in the theater. Yeah, a little soprano. She would have.

She would have, because, like, and I don't know how many people are, like, a couple of months ago, people were like, if they would have said to me, oh, you can go into the movie theater now. It's okay. And I know a lot of people are starting to do it. Dude, right now with breakthrough cases and kids now, kids are catching it like this. But the kids are catching like this and they can't be vaccinated.

I'm not taking my kids into a movie theater. Hopefully they'll release that one sooner. I don't know what their digital plan is. I know the kids love Paw Patrol. Oh, my daughter loves Paul Patrol. Yeah, my little cousins. That's the one. This would have been no one.

She's never been, she was too young. When the pandemic hit, she was too young to go to the movies. And then her age during the pandemic was, it started because my oldest, actually is funny. my oldest, I took her to see Frozen when she was like two and a half. Yeah. And I didn't know how she was going to handle a movie in the theater. And she watched a whole freaking thing.

And she loved it. I've taken my oldest, many, like, premieres and things too. And she's been to the movies many times. My youngest has never been to the movie theater. Ever. And it's like, yeah, it's weird. Well, hopefully, yeah, I mean, hopefully the Delta and all the breakthrough stuff starts to chill out in the next six months.

Well, I think less than that. I think from what they're saying, like, the way, like, a wave works. It should be, it should be, the next couple of weeks, you should sort of see a down thing, but people got to get vaccinated. If people don't get vaccinated, then you'll get the fifth wave. And then the other, then the other, then the omega, then you'll get, you'll get different. Lambda. Lambda. Yeah, I was kidding.

Because we were just talking about Star Wars. It's a Lambda wave. But we go, you go to the Omega wave. The Alpha wave. Yeah, you go to, but it's the next, the next one right, the Lambda would, it's just going to keep, they're just going to keep going. Unless people get vaccinated. But there was like 825,000 people like yesterday that signed up. You get vaccinated?

Yeah. Oh, fuck yeah. Remember what we talked about? They're making it like the French guy is like, I don't give a fuck. Guess what? Everybody's getting a mandate. This is a mandate. You want to riot in the street?

Go riot in the street. And 2 million people, 4 million people signed up like within a couple of days. Yeah. We're not doing that here. We're doing, no, it's not really a mandate, but you can't do this unless you do this. you can't do this. They're like secretly doing a mandate. And people like, well, fuck, I can't do anything.

I might as well get a vaccine. Yeah. And then there's people you're going to reach. There's people that are, there's people like, there's a friend of mine that we know. That wasn't necessarily like a stubborn person who thinks there's going to be a fucking microchip in them to, you know, to like this. They might have thought that, yeah. But, but more so of us like wanted more information and all this stuff too. But it got scary enough.

They were like, fuck it. I'm just getting it. There's tons of people out there like that. Yeah. Tons of people. Or we want to travel. Like it's like their life is, they need to now to maneuver in the way they want to. Those are people that will continue to get it.

There's the unreachable people who have made this political and thinks that it's a far left agenda or something to even know the fucking Trump administration were the ones that put this thing in the play in the first place with the, and most of them have taken the fucking vaccine anyway. But those people you're not going to reach. because they think that there's Dude, I saw a post where somebody thinks that Biden is a, is not even, that he's got two Bidens. That there's, there's, well, of course. And they posted a younger picture. They posted a younger picture from him like seven years ago and then said,

look at him now and look at him then. I'm like, look at me seven years ago. I fucking, and I just run the Schmode on. I've aged within three weeks. This motherfucker dealing with COVID every day. Especially presidents. They're known to notoriously age really bad as soon as they end. to her office or the election season.

Yeah, well, this morning I was talking, there's no chance that dude runs in 2022. No. No chance. It'll be like fucking 82 years old. No. What's interesting, you mentioned the thing about, you know, like breakthrough cases and all that.

Like everything we've seen is basically that you are exactly the kind of person that has caused to be concerned because you have kids. That's the whole thing. Yeah. Because the people that are getting sick, that one percent or less or whatever, that are actually getting the breakthrough cases, they're not getting that sick. They're getting...

They're not getting that. in the second they don't realize some of them are asymptomatic they didn't even realize that they have it but you can go you can you can you can get you like uh whether you're vaccinated or not and that's the reason why you're in mass because the thing is that's any one of us here like step and and ben they could have it and not have any symptoms whatsoever they be asymptomatic and then my daughter could be walking by and they could pass it to them and not even know it is it possible is it is it probable i mean is it is it is it likely probably not but why why risk it yeah why risk it at the moment opposed to just fucking talking.

And like that's the thing about it is like somebody said to me the other day. They're like, oh, another lockdown coming. And I was like, there's no lockdown coming. They're just asking us to wear masks. Yeah. I'll wear a mask inside for a while if I need to. It's okay. Like, if you tell me, hey, cancel your tour or do your tour with a mask on,

that's, well, that's take, I'll take it off when I sing and I'll wear it otherwise. I don't care. I just, right? I don't want to lose. I don't want to lose my friend. You want to live. We all want to still live. Ellis and I said the same thing the other day on the show.

We talked about because we did the show on mass on Friday. And we talked, so for the canteenes shoot, we were massed the whole time. So you said, if someone complains about what we were a mess, it's either that or do another show digital. No thank you. Yeah, exactly. No thank you. I would much rather, I'll wear, I said I'll tie a fucking electrical tape around my head the whole fucking time and do that as opposed to. I don't want to look into the camera anymore and see people.

Like, we've had a match the other day that I won't talk about. That was, like, there was something that happened. that was just, it was, emotions ran high. And I said to myself, if we were in studio, I could have put such a fucking lockdown on this, because I could have said, hold on for a second, talk to the competitors and said, hey, before you do your interview,

let's talk about this, this, this, and this. You can't do that in digital. It's, you're in the waiting room, your motions running high, you're by yourself, and then the motions explode. And it's like, it's driving me fucking bananas. It really is.

And so I do think this wave will be, It will be, we'll start to roll down. I think New York, I think the New York event is going to be the first one. We're like, okay, maybe we are getting back to normal. That's my, that's my hope. I hope so. So you've only gotten into the Schmada now in the digital era. Like that's where you, but you did get to go to the canteenataping.

Oh, right. Do that. And also collision. You got to go to both. Like, you've got to notice, like, such a drastic difference in a vibe. It's such a difference. It's so much more fun and competitive and, like, anything can, there's just more access to things happening. The competitors that are talking about it.

watching, even the ones who aren't competing that day. And just like the fan connection, which is, I think, the heart of the Shmodeown. There's such a good fan base. And, yeah, just so much better in person. Yeah. Yeah. So what were you saying? You said this other stuff that you saw.

Oh, yeah. Paul Patrol. There's a few things coming up here pretty quick. There's that movie Reminiscence, which is the, you Jackman. Did you see Free Guy? No, because Disney. Oh, Disney. So Free Guy, free guy, I got a screening for it.

I don't. Cheecherker. I'm sorry. But I do, that's another one I want to say. I have a list. I still haven't seen Mortal Kombat, by the way. I haven't seen Mortal Kombat. I haven't seen Mortal Kombat.

That's great. I loved in the Heights so much. I haven't seen Mortal Kombat. I didn't finish Mortal Kombat because I was watching alone. I'm like, this is way too gory to just like indulge by myself. What else came out that I missed? Everything. That's true.

That's true. Is he Black Widow? No. Really? No. You really have not watched Black Widow. So I told you my theme of Black Widow, right? There's no fucking way I'm paying $30.

I'm not paying $30 for it. I'm not paying $30. If I have Disney Plus, why the fuck am I paying $30 for watching? Fast 9? What's that? Fast 9. So listen. So when it comes to Black Widow, I was in, when I went on my vacation.

He watched Schmod on title once, right? There was a time. Solvang. Solvang. I went to Sullivan and when I got my screener for it Oh, I'm going to watch this as soon as I get home. It expired in 48 hours. I get home.

It expired an hour before I put it on. And I was like, and I tried to reach out to get it again because I was going to do a review on it and all that stuff. And it was so I'm like, okay, so my wife and I looked at you We've been wanting to watch it. I definitely want to see it. And we contemplated doing the 30. I'm like, it's going to be available soon.

Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, why I just wait for it? It's going to be at Disney Plus. Why am I, if I own, if I have Disney Plus, I don't need to. everybody else reviewed it already? What the fuck do you? No one's knocking down the door and what are your thoughts on Black Widow? Yeah.

What if it had the normal release strategy of two months? Like HBO Max? No, in the four months until it's on home video. Would you have watched it by now? Knowing that you were going to have to wait. For what? I'm just curious if it was the old way. It's a movie that it, I think because of also where it lies in the timeline.

Yeah. It's also not that important for me to see. Like, I watch things for the timeline of it. It's like it lands in between, Civil War. It's a throw a throwaway movie, really, but as far as timeline goes. Unless we get, which I want, I think they should fast

track a three movie deal with Florence Pew. Which is just the best. She's great. I'd be down, I'd be down. Yeah. I'd be down for that, but I want to, like I said, I'm very much looking forward to seeing the movie. I really want to see the film. But it's just, but no. So I have, and Fast

9, I'm waiting for it. It just came out on digital and I'm waiting, I'm like, what's the point of having Peacock? If it's not on Peacock. Oh, I'm sorry. You know what I did see? What? My favorite movie the year so far? Pig with Nicholas Cage. I heard that was good. Shannon said she didn't like it though, right? Yeah. It's trust me as like, as the biggest Cage fan who does not watch any of his straight-to-video stuff because it's all terrible. This is maybe possibly the best cage performance. It's in the top. It's the best thing he's done since his adaptation. Do you cop? No, he's, he's, he's this

guy, he's a truffle hunter who lives in the woods who experience some personal tragedy. It looks like literally a pig. Okay. He used to, he used to be a chef, like a high, High class chef in Portland. And he lives in the woods because he had some personal tragedy. And he has this truffle pig that helps him find truffles. And Alex Wolfe, friend of the Shemotam is in it. And he's great. And he shows up to like collect truffles every week from him.

Somebody steals the pig. He doesn't know who. And so he's like, I need to find my pig. And he goes to Portland to find the pig. And he's like this woodsman who's like so nihilistic and just like, there's no point of anything in life. You know, just like he's so depressing. But he has this one scene.

in the restaurant. He meets a chef that he used to work with. And he, like, explains his philosophy. And it's just mesmerizing. This movie is so good. I've heard that. Like, it's a surprise. Yeah.

I mean, look, like I said, there's a list for me. He has a long list. And I do want to see Fast 9. But like I said, why am I paying $30 or $20 for it online when I know it's going to be on Peacock eventually? Yeah. You know, and like, I'm not going anywhere.

Like, if we were doing, like, doing big shows on it and like all that. And like, and I felt, And I probably would have gone to more screenings. If there's no Delta running around with all these things, and I'd probably go, like, some of these movies, I would have caught the screeners for it because I want to watch them in the big screen. Like Fast 9, who the hell doesn't want to shove a popcorn in your face and watch that on the big screen?

Yeah, so like, and Dune. Like when the screening comes out for Dune, I'm hoping that it's, you know, it's calmed down a little bit. If not, I'll watch it here. That one, that one I'm probably going to try to go pretty hard to get a screener for because I really want to see it. What about Shang Chi? I'm out that one I'll get to see so the Disney movies and the HBO Max movies like HBO

max so Warner Brothers sends out the link yeah great if not I know that it comes out the same time as release like Suicide Squad I'm probably gonna watch that today right because it comes I don't have to wait for it because HBO Max I love the strategy of it's out in theaters you can watch it at home yeah that to me is the most brilliant strategy and and for families I think it makes a lot of sense and I think it helps boost up your your your platform the $30 thing on Disney Plus I get why they do it and I'm sure they get some people that wind up doing it but I hate the strategy. I did it once for Raya. Glad I did it.

A good movie but even then. Could have waited for it. But I get the screeners for those. Did you see old I guess? Yeah. Did you like it? It was an interesting fun it was like an exciting watch but it didn't age well with my

mind. Ironically. So I'm going to give you a choice. Yeah. My answer for this is it? Okay. A. I did see it. I actually went to the theater and saw this one. Was it B, got the screening, saw it, or C, got the screener, decided not to go?

C. Correct. Got the screener, missed the email, saw it three weeks later. Yes. But I do, and the same answer, and D, but I do want to say it. It's like if the happening fuck lady in the water. It's just, it's like. So weird.

It's bizarre. It's bizarre. It has a weird twist like they all. all have. It's comically bad at a lot of moments. Like a lot of it is just like these performances are terrible. See that's what's, or when you break down what happened, you're like, did they just, oh my God, they just did that. Right. Totally. So funny like when I was talking to Alice about it, because we do get the, we get the comments, you know, every once in a while people be like, why don't you and else do reviews anymore? Because we don't see anything anymore. And it's like,

that's the other thing is that Ellis is like Ellis, it's like, Ellis only sees movies now because he has to for rotten tomatoes. Like he doesn't, there's some stuff that he doesn't, he wouldn't go out and see. I mean, he'd want to see old, but he wouldn't go out on his own just to see it. He had to see it for the movie. And it's like, when I started doing reviews, I was, younger than you. And so, that's the whole point is I was going all the time. I don't have time for this shit now. It's like, it's, I've, you know, to me, run the shmada out enough is, is enough of a job that I don't also need to, like, be catching up on reviews and shit all the time. Since you got into the, like, review game and screening stuff all the time, do you

enjoy seeing the movies with critics more or did you enjoy like just seeing them with like people on opening weekend and getting that audience experience? The audience. I try not to give a shit about the critics because I'm never going to be like a critic. I'm not going to come on air and shit on something that you, I'll say like if it didn't really work for me, but I respect a lot. Like Green Knight didn't work for me. Okay. I love that one. That one I didn't see.

Oh, no way. No way. That would be the one. But it just not thought, the whole critic thing where like you're judging every single moment, every single scene. Like even in Suicide Squad, there wasn't a lot of people laughing. I'm like, are y'all not entertained? Can we have fun? Here's my thing with that, though, because I don't have an issue with people giving thoughts on their film because that's what we do.

That's their job. No, but not even a job, though. But that's not even a job, though. But it is you in an aspect because you and I could sit there and have a conversation about what you liked and what you didn't. Yeah. And to me, there's no wrong for people going out and saying that. My problem with what has happened in the last 10 years in this space, and I saw it with many of our peers,

there's a very big difference between people who review movies and critics. William Bibiani and Alonzo Duraldi, they are critics. They are film critics. William Bibiani will analyze a movie, do all the research, have a lot of, I was never a film critic. I was a movie reviewer. reviewed movies and gave my thoughts on things. I've seen a lot of people in our space,

people that I can name immediately but won't, that think that they are film critics, and I'm here to tell you they are not. They are not film critics. They are people who review movies the same way that... We do. We do. And that was what the...

That's a great distinction. That's what Shmo's was all about. Like, so, and I don't feel that he would be offended of me saying this at all. Jeremy Johns to me is a movie reviewer. Yeah. Chris Stuckman is a film. critic. Oh, interesting. What do you... I think that it changed. I think it changed

tremendously inside of when Chris started. Chris is a full-on analytic, breaking... Jeremy is the same thing. He sees a movie, reviews, talks about it just the way that he... Jeremy is very creative in how he... And how he does his reviews and does things

and he's got that comedic edge to him and the reason why he's been so successful for so many years. Very two different styles. And I think that the pure definition of reviewing and and a critic. Everyone can be, by definition, a critic because you're critiquing something. But what I'm trying to say is that, like, there's a definition between someone who truly analyzes film and breaks down film. Just because you review movies, you're not a critic.

I agree. You're not. There's a title. One's more like a working, a work. Like, that's a job for you to see, like, how lighting was. Like, each scene breaking down the motive, symbolism, comparisons. analyzing and being able to bring out references and understanding it and the mood and and and I'm not telling me and said I'm going to agree with you I agree with Bibiani maybe never yeah I never

agree with Bibiani but he's a film critic and he's a damn yeah he's a damn good one it's a different viewing experience like for me I'm always going to put the viewing experience above whatever I can do with it so the way that I can review it is by I like to enjoy the film and not like think every say that's why I didn't like Green night it was a job right and it's not fun and and and but and that's thing is where if we're going to if you and I just saw green night yeah what'd you think and you start talking about it and I didn't like it because this is this and I did the same thing we did none of that research we just all we did was talk about the first thought that came out of our head and how we thought about it did you like the performance oh that's a question you just asked me do

I like the performance well yeah you know Bibiani Alonzo Doraldei Leonard Malton they sit down they they they break things down they go through things they they write articles like to me, that's what a film critic in general is. And I know, again, definition says, well, someone who critiques movies, you see the distinction I'm saying between the two of them. Like, you know, like, I hope you're not offended by this. To me, you are not a critic.

You're a movie reviewer. Well, it's an interesting, I think it's a really interesting point you bring up because, like, I have referred to myself when somebody asks, like, what do I do for a living? Before, I've said, like, I do a bunch of things, I'm a critic. I've said that before. And I think I've said it offhandedly,

just sort of imagining, like, if I'm part of press, and I go and I watch a movie, and I share my thoughts for an audience. By definition, sure. Sure. But I actually don't disagree with what you're saying, really, because I don't put in, for a lot of my reviews, I don't put in the thought or the time necessary to form.

I'm really just saying, and I think that's why a lot of critics, and I think that's why a lot of critics, rightfully so, were like, are, feel sited in a bit from the job that they had done, because I have never, even though we were certified on Rotten Tomatoes. And I'm sure that if you did footage down the line, I'm sure at one point, maybe I said, my critic on this and this, this.

I never I never consider myself a critic ever. It is a very different distinction all together. Even though Mark and I were on Rotten Tomatoes, first ones ever on YouTube, still, I just don't consider myself a film critic, ever. I never did. And that's why I think that a lot of people, especially in our space, think that they are and they aren't.

I think also, though, because there's a sliding, there's just like obviously a moving goalpost what you're talking about here because it changes. I'm sure there are people on TikTok who think they are critics because they have a huge audience and they talk about movies. But also, you know, Bibiani or McQueenie or one of these guys that write newsletters, they'll have a thought that resonates with their audience sometimes

and that I think maybe will qualify them more, like having a really profound thing to say about a movie. Christy Lemire is a critic. She's been around for a long time. Like those, Amy Nicholson, critic. Like, that's what they do. the way that they analyze film in general. So anyway, that's just, it's, the space has changed.

I think your example, the TikTok thing is exactly right. Someone who's got a million followers starts reviewing movies and has a, and people watch thousands about thousands. Oh, I'm a successful critic. No, you're successful. You're successful at giving, like, I think news is another thing. There are people out there who call themselves like reporters. I don't find Don Lemon to be a reporter.

I find Don Lemon to be an opinion piece guy. He'll look into the camera for 87 minutes after he gives one thought. So is that what we're doing now? And that to me isn't like a news reporter the way that like some of these other people are. Like I watched Lester Holt. Yeah. And I don't, when, because I stopped getting away. I stopped going towards the, the MSNBC and Fox News and CNN because they're just,

they all have the same agenda. They all, it's like, we know who are our audiences. so we're going to skew to that side of it. To me, I watch Lester Hope because it's just the fucking news. Yeah. He's just a reporter. He's telling these are the stories today. This is it.

This is what happened in the world today as opposed to. And I know, like, he's a reporter. And he's reporting on that thing as opposed to other people who say their reporters who are just giving opinion. Yeah. If it's not unbiased, it's inherently not straight news. Right. Just like by journal, if you take any journalism class, there's a code of ethics to it. So they know all these news.

Of course. 100%. Because networks know they're not news. That's fucking asshole. All he does is he's just playing off his audience too. They're no different. It's the same. It's just, it's just let's do.

This is the audience that I know how to get the ratings out of them. So I'll say this. Both, all the networks. That's why I just watch the news. Like the actual news. Like if you, whether it's whatever news channel is that I just want to hear people who are saying, this is the story that happened with the doing a word reporter to us. And now so-and-so on site with this report.

Here's the news of what's going down, because I'm a fucking reporter, and I'm not giving you biased thing. I'm just telling you what happened today. I don't need to hear what you think is good and what you think. If you choose to go into that and into that type of show to watch it, and that's what's sold to you,

but don't sell me that you're a reporter, because you're an opinion pace. That's what I like about when you always talk about Schmo's No and what we're doing now. I think that it's important to know what you, are in what your audience wants and what you give them like i'm never going to be like i'm giving you the premier critic advice no never me but biviani and those people can and that's for their audience like i don't think you they should be worried i get why they don't like other youtube reviewers

but that's their audience will never look for them and vice versa right well i saw i mean like i i've seen i've seen comments definitely like you should go back to review in movies no i don't want to we want to watch the sopranos i'll review movies like you know what i I will review the Suicide Squad when I see it. I'll review it when I see Fast 9 whenever it might be. I will review it. And I'll talk about it because I just watch it. But I'm not,

I don't want to jump through hoops for people to see, to go out and see movie reviews when it's like you have other people that you can watch it from. And, you know, and I'm, and I'm, I would love, I would love to have the conversation going back and forth. I,

one of my favorite things now about this show is having the conversations in the comment section that I have been. Yeah. Like when we talk about something and then someone says, oh, you know, I actually thought this about this about. that movie and I just watch it I want to talk to them and I want to have that conversation with them I love that it's not like I don't want to talk about movies anymore I want to talk about them

when I see them and I don't have to rush out to go see them and chase down the screenings and do all that you know so in that's that's I always sounded really interesting that the game you used to be in the like I'm going to get the press screening and I'm going to do my review and the earlier I can get it out the better because the fans that we have that want to watch this type of show they don't have that access so they're going to watch the movie in theater, and then they're going to want to hear about it. Sometimes, if you're doing spoilers, you're not doing spoilers, but they do, there is, there is a reason, and I do understand, like I said, it's not that I don't understand why people

aren't doing. You have to do that. You've got to get it, because the thing is, if you get the non-spoiler out, people are going to want to see your thoughts, if they respect what you say, they're going to want to see your thoughts to see, I was on the fence about seeing it, because that's what movie reviews, like, and make no mistake about it, even though I might not consider you a critic. Yeah. That doesn't mean that I don't think that your audience might listen to you way more so than they will at actual critic.

Sure. So using Jeremy Johns, who is a very talented movie reviewer, and he and I usually sync up on opinions very much so and have been for many years, I'm going to listen to him when I hear his review before, if it's a non-spoiler, and I put one of his reviews on, and then I see Bibiani's article. Yeah. I'm not listening to Bibiani. I never agree with him.

He's, he just, he's, he fucking guy said he loves space jam the new one over the, the, the, the, the old classic one, right? And he's a contrarian and he always has been, but he's fucking brilliant when he writes about it. Right. But I never agree with anything he fucking says. So I'm, if, if his article comes out saying why I need to see the new space jam, and then Jeremy John's video comes out who's seen it earlier and talks about how a bunch of a shit pilot is, I'm going to listen to Jeremy and I probably won't watch the fucking thing. Yeah. Yeah, I also think that there's a problem with, uh, intellectual film criticism now in the, sort of in the sort of woke moment culturally that we're in,

which is that there are opinions that critics write about, and there are, like, boundaries on I think what they're allowed to say because they work for publications primarily. So they can't have a strong opinion that's contrary to something that, like movie art is expressions of art. We were just talking about how totally inappropriate a lot of the Sopranos is. Even just today, if you tried to make that show, even though it's supposed to represent a certain time

and a certain type of person and a culture, they probably still wouldn't let them get away with a lot of the shit they say in the show. now just because of the fact that there would be a cultural response. I think there's definitely a cultural response to because they actually brought this up on talking sopranos if the show would get made today. I do think it would get made today. I think there would be more people don't remember, but there was, there were lots of back of the Italians poorly, how it did this, there was bad too much violence.

There was tons of that. The internet wasn't really a thing back then the way it is now. There would be way more of it now. They'd still be able to make the show exactly the same. way that they made it, but they would just get more shit for it. And they would get, they would absolutely have more people saying, how dare they do this type episode or say this word or do that. I think the Michelle would still get made. I just, I just think there would be more back left. They just do stuff in a genius way to, like, timeless. Like, I was just thinking about, like, the way that

they, they're so obvious about how racist Italians could be to black people. Oh, yeah. And it just is done in a way where black people are not the punchline. The Italians look like that, are the racist ones look so stupid. Oh, this whole entire thing with this, with the, with the Columbus Day episode, which how stupid a lot of them sound when they're trying

to defend Columbus and A.J. Soprano was the one going, but he was a mass murderer. He did do all these and they're like, Columbus is respected in this house. They said screaming. It's like Tony looks like, Tony and Carmel look like the idiots and AJ's got a book with facts. Yeah. And it's like,

but yeah, you're exactly right. But anyway, a lot of great conversation here today. This is a lot of fun. I was happy to have Ben and Steph on the show together. And Ben, uh, once you give the good people, we'll tell her where they can find you and what you're working on.

Yeah, you guys can find me at Ben Bateman media, kind of across all platforms. I just rebranded my YouTube channel. It's now just YouTube.com slash Ben Bateman. It's really going to be reflective of more music stuff. And I'm going on tour for about five weeks this winter. Get your tickets at Ben Bateman,

2021 Tour.com. I'd love to see you guys on the road. Every one of the shows is kind of like a private hangout. So, uh, yeah, let's see there. And Steph, how about yourself? Where can I find you? you all over social media at step sub bra and then we're doing a bunch of cool things with s en on the twitch

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So thank you once again. And we'll see on the flip sides, homie.