The Kristian Harloff Show - The Flash could be a major bomb for Warner Bros. What happened?

Episode Date: June 22, 2023

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What's going on, everybody? Happy Thursday. Welcome back. Just me today. That's a lot. It's me and Roxanne Straha. No Brett today. Why? Because Brett is prepping for New York. That's right. He's getting ready for New York. We're going to be there tomorrow. If you aren't there watching the live stream, it means that you do not like us. It means that you hate our guts and that you wish that we would live in Antarctica. At least that's what I'm telling myself. Anyway, a lot to talk about today. We have Gal Gadot. Is she coming back as Wonder Woman? Is she not? What's the deal with the DCU? What is the deal? And why is the flash bombing as hard it is? It's bombing hard. It's a big disappointment. Having a massive drop off in its second week, or whatever the

hell it is. Yeah, so far, they're predicting it to be like Green Lantern bad drop. That's not good, considering that I like the movie. Indiana Jones, Roxy saw it. I'll talk about it. I saw it, I'll talk about it. I saw it too. Secret Invasion. Did you watch that yet? Okay, we'll talk Secret Invasion. Emily Blunt She bluntly said that she's coming back or she'd come back to Edge of Tomorrow too Good one!

Oh, your microphones, wait, oh good. Did you like that one? Good one. It was a good one. Wait. Yeah, good, right? Let me do that again. So Emily Blunt

bluntly said thank you that she would not come back unless it was a good script for Edge of Tomorrow too. I like that. I thought that was a good moment. Yeah.

And then, oh, yeah, I have to talk to Roxy about this Yellowstone thing. Pretty crazy. Costner's gone, for sure, and Taylor Sheridan was talking about it. So that and more on today's show. And obviously, have some TV picks and talking about this Titanic Expedition thing. I hope you find these people. That and more. Talk about it all today on the big thing.

So thanks for joining us. As I said, we're going to be in New York. Me, Mark, Corey, and Martin, double-toasted, Brett Sheridan, Jen Sturger, making a return to the family. and Kate Mulligan, all going to be in New York, and we hope that you guys will be with us, too. If you're in the East Coast, you can be there at all. You should get there.

And we also have live streaming available. Speaking of live stream available, Katie Sackoff, man, she just announced she's going to be a Comic-Con, Comic-Con weekend, July 22nd. We'll be there producing that show. We're going to record a podcast at the American Comedy Company from 4 o'clock to 6 p.m. This is a really cool thing.

I don't even think Roxy knows the full extent of this yet, but it's going to be, Katie is going to be there. We're going to have a special guest, and then after we leave, you join the live stream, you can actually ride in the car with Katie on her phone, and it's a Q&A, she'll have a conversation with you, certain people can join into the stream, and that is available at blah, blah, blah, katie.com.

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That's enough plugs for now. Let's get to it. I'm ready. You're ready. Cool. Orange cream, that's what I'm drinking now. So is Roxy. That's what we're drinking now.

How you like that orange cream soda? So good. Right? Is I lying to? No. You want another one, don't you? It tastes like a popsicle. It does.

It's so good. It's really good. refreshing. Yeah, but one day we're going to find out these shit's real bad for us. Well, that's what they did with LaCroix. Remember, LaCroix? They said there's a cockroach stuff in. I also had it LaCroix recently.

It was pretty delicious still. I've got to be honest for you. I don't get it. You don't get what? The premise of it being zero calories, but with natural flavor. Yeah. So what? Don't ask, don't tell.

Yeah. That's it. Totally. That's it. How are you? I feel like it's been longer than a week. I know. Has it been?

No, right? No, you were here last week. Yeah, I don't know. We talked about things. I kind of miss you. Oh, I missed you too. It was, yeah. Isn't a long week?

Well, it's been an interesting week for me because like I said, I've been kind of on my own here. And I didn't, you said to me before, you're like, well, you could call me to hang out. I didn't hang on anybody. I was here. I was here, I've been working because normally what I'll do is I come in here. I work until, you know, 5.30, get a text. The meat loaf is done. Come in.

Kids need you. The meatloaf. Yeah, I come in. and that's it in the whole time in my head. I'm like, I have so much more I can be doing right now. So when the family was gone, like last night I worked until like midnight. I took a break to walk the dog, took a break to, you know, eat, watch the little news. And then...

That's what I do every day, Christian. Solo, dolo, it just work all day every day. That's it. That's the whole life. Well, I needed to do it because, like I said, we had that announcement that we dropped, I guess yesterday at the time this is hearing with Katie. So we're pumped about it because, yeah. I think I might be in Comic-Con.

You're going to be there? I think so. You've got to come to the show. Well, like, what are you doing at Comic-Con? Are you going for one day? I'm going to be there. I'm going to get there on either Wednesday night or Thursday, because I'll probably do Ellis's show that on Thursday.

I'm going to be hanging out with Smets. So I'm going to go. If I get a badge, I think somebody has a badge for me to walk the floor. I don't really give a shit, to be honest. Go hang out, maybe go to some of the things that, night and then Saturday, probably leave, probably leave Sunday morning, probably stay for the whole weekend, do the reactions and stuff from,

although I don't know if there will be reactions. Maybe for trailers, if they have something, but you heard Marvel's not going. Yeah. They're not going anymore. I know. I wonder, because that's part of the, part of an pending strike, part of delays.

Do you hear about that? What did you think about when you heard that yesterday? I was not shocked. I had a couple of friends through the grapevine kind of sneak to me that this was coming via Marvel. but also, yes, I think a lot of this has to do with union stuff. Yes, I think a lot of it has to do with being respectful. But also, I think that putting these events on is, you really want to know what you're doing.

And I don't know that they know what their plan is fully yet. I think you're exactly right. I think because of the delays. I think because of casting, I think because of all of these things, they're just like, fucking, let's just let's not go. there's a strike. We don't know yet. We don't know what the hell is going.

We don't know what the hell is going. But you know who's looking at their chops is DC. Yeah. If they know what they're doing. I think that they do. I think that we're close. At the very least, the very least,

they can just have a Superman panel. At the very least, if the strike doesn't happen. I mean, we very well could get Superman and Lois casting as well as Batman casting. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.

Jensen ankles has been, that's how you pronounce his name. right? Jensen ankles. Ackles, I think, right? Ackles, not ankles, ankles. Jensen, I should probably know that. Your sounds like shoes and beef. Shoes and ankles.

Jans and ankles. Yeah, no, I should actually probably know that. But anyway, it's, um, yeah, I could see that happening for sure. It would be huge. Mushietti coming out there and doing. And we might get Joker 2 panel. We might get Gaga. Like, they could do some stuff.

Gaga singing there would be massive. Insane. Insane. Yeah, if that's why I mean by, by, they're licking their chops because they'll be, Marvel has been the king of Hall H for years. Now Marvel does, is going to have a presence at Comic Con on the floor, but they won't have a presence at Hall H.

Aquaman 2. We need a trailer. This movie's coming out this year. We haven't seen one trailer. I don't have the high hopes of that movie. Yeah, but don't you feel like, of course. That's what they should do.

Of course. But I'm with you. They might stay away from it because they might just be like, eh, we're just. Let it, let the ship run into the ground. But that's crazy town, US. and then Blue Beetle coming out in August. Well, yeah, but the Blue Beetle,

Blue Beetle will probably definitely show something for it because James Gunn has said this is a DCU movie. No, DCU character. Right. Which is, so confusing. This is a DCU character. Yeah, so it'll probably have to give a brief, you guys can fast forward, I'll put time codes on it,

but I have to go a little spoilers into Flash here to explain some of this too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you haven't seen Flash, you know, you can click on the next. story in a second here. But, all right, you've been warned. Cool.

So the post-credit scene in the flag. The Aquaman. Yes. At the end, the Aquaman. That kind of explains that it seems like it could, the Aquaman movie could be an

elseworld's movie. Why do you feel like that? I have to re-see this post-credit scene in order to feel that I've heard so many different people say, this confirmed that they are back in the universe that they were. in people saying this confirms that in every universe Jason

Mamoa is Aquaman. That's what it was confirmed. That's why it's Hells Worlds because of that. That was confirmed. He says to him. He says to him basically everywhere I went there's a different Batman but everywhere I went you were the same Aquaman. But how come when he looked for Aquaman it wasn't him? He just didn't exist there. Right. Well he didn't exist but when he did exist it was Jason Mamma. So were you thinking that Mamoa is going to be Aquaman moving forward?

He's going to be Aquaman and potentially Lobo too, but he can... What? If they set up this DCU... Do you think he's going to be Arco Man and Lobo at the same time? I'm just saying that this makes it possible. Do I think it's going to happen? No, but I think it makes it possible because it's basically saying that this is who he looks like in...

I think it's too freaking confusing. But what it does now is Flash 2 ain't happening. We know that. The movie has... They'd be silly to do it. It would be stubborn for them to do it. And this comes from somebody, we both like the movie. It would be very stubborn for them to do a second movie.

The movie is doing poorly. It's not doing well. People do not support Ezra Miller. And those who don't know who the hell they are, don't give a crap because there's no star appeal anyway. When you're saying else worlds, are you not meaning else worlds? Are you meaning alternate universes? No, I mean, like the elseworlds movie are basically...

The swamp thing movie? Yeah. You're saying that... So the Joker is an Elseworld's movie. But you're saying Aquaman is an elseworld's movie? It would have to be no. It's not going to connect to DCU unless it's a new...

I mean, unless, because he is Aquaman in every... They could connect it to the DCU. That's what I mean. Because they said it's so stupid and confusing. But like that was their fix. It's like saying, okay, well, because... So basically, if the movie bombs

and it eats a pile of shit, and they go, we're done with this. It's an Elseworld's movie. If it crushes and it continues, like, well, no, that's part of our DCU now. I don't know. I think that, okay, here's what I want versus here's what I think that they're doing. Unfortunately, in my dream of dream worlds at this point,

we completely cut every single person, and we move forward with all new people. Yeah, so we should have done in the first place. Because that's the clearest thing to do. and the problem with keeping Mamoa or keeping the peacemaker cast including Amanda Waller,

Harley Quinn, the suicide squad people it just feels like playing favorites in a way that's really uncomfortable 100%. And you can't just be like, oh yeah we cut Ezra because we cut everybody. Now like you're dealing with all the drama around everything. We can't just say we cut Amber Heard because we cut everybody.

You know, like there's been a lot of drama going on. So I wish that they kind of would just be like The thing that makes me feel excited about them not doing that is people like Sasha Kaye, who I would like to see as Supergirl again because that sucks that you get to be Supergirl and then it's just for this one thing. But I don't know. I think you're right that I don't think they're doing a clean cut. I think that Gunn doesn't want to let go of any of the peacemaker people.

He already said that that's the next project after. Totally. Which I agree with you as much as I love Peacemaker. Me too. Love it. Yeah, you like Peacemaker even better than you like. liked the boys? No, I hadn't seen it.

I hadn't seen the boys yet. Didn't you rank the last season of the peacemaker one higher than the boys? Than the last season of the boys, right. The last season of the boys, right, that's what I'm just saying. That's how much you like peacemaker. Yeah, overall, but it's also not fair. There's three seasons as compared to one. But overall, I like the boys better.

But yes, for that season, I just, I love that. And I love what's his face. Freddie Stroma in that show is just next level. They all are great. But yeah, and, but even saying that, it's very similar to what you just said. If you're going to do a reboot and you're going to start fresh, then start fresh. Right.

Take your second. You're 100% right. It is playing favorites. And I understand why. He loves the show. He loves doing it. It's another gig for his wife to work. And she's good, by the way.

I don't think it's just people keep giving her shit because, oh, it's James guns away. She's in everything. She's a very good actress. She's the least of our worries. Yeah, 100%. But I just think that they should, yeah, I was saying this from the get-go. If you're going to get rid of Cavill and you're going to just say, look, I couldn't agree with you more. This is it.

We're starting fresh. We're getting a new Superman. It feels wrong to keep Moa and not Caval. That feels weird to me. I agree. That seems like what they're doing. But they're trying to explain it in a different way. And look, there could be to James Gunn,

and I don't necessarily agree with this, but I could see where he was like, well, to me, I like this kind of cool Aquaman, and I think that fits into what we want to do. But the Superman that Zach Snyder set up, the kind of dark Superman and Henry Cavill is kind of tied to that. I want to go younger. I want to do something else.

And I can see where the conversation would be had. But I agree. I've been saying that forever. It's like if you're going to make that call, cut them all. On DC movie news, the reunion that you stopped by for Daddy Christian putting the panel together. We, all the guys believe that we're not seeing a single member of the Justice League again, like the OG Justice League, the actors after Aquaman. So not even Mamoa. Right.

Not even coming back to being as Lobo? Maybe as Lobo, but not coming back as cast in their character. I mean, I don't think that's a crazy bet. I've said like... Not crazy, but that would mean that's not our Aquaman then. Right. I mean, we're recasting. That means you, I think you should.

Yeah, me too. Me too. Well, that's why I think that it's the same thing as they were kind of like tiptoeing around and not say anything as the Flash was coming out, because if you say definitively, new Flash after this is a, over. It would have done less money than it did. They need to cut Barry Allen. They need to go with Wally West. They need to not have another.

If they are about to reboot the Flash, we've had so much Barry Allen recently, and there's just going to be too much comparison. I would like to see. I think Barry Allen was more in tune to what he was in the comics in the TV show than he was in the movie. Definitely. So I only think we've only seen him once.

I guess, unless you watch nine seasons of a TV show. show like I did. Well, that's what I mean. But you, but you were just, you saw it for so long for nine seasons. Right, right, right. So, but not everybody has, right? Like, I think I've seen six episodes.

The Flash now, but like, it might not be your Flash, your version of Barry Allen, but we still saw him. We still saw him, but, and it's, I'm just saying from what was, like, if you, if you looked at it, Peter Parker was more like Miles Morales. Right.

But they said that's Peter Parker, but he had more characteristics and make a mixture of the both. And I'm not going to pretend that I know a lot about Wally West. I don't. But from what, listening to Coy and listening to Winston and listening to Mike Kalanowski, that Ezra's version was almost like Wally and Barry combined.

I could see that. Yeah. That's interesting. But not really because Wally West is not annoying. Right. And then let me there's a choice. Yeah. Well, I think, you know, look,

I don't mean it like that. I just mean like genuinely. Ecentric. Yeah, he's kind of cool. Right. Kid Flash kind of like cool. Cool. Yeah. So I just think that.

He's more of a vibe to him than Barry does. I think that the way that they eased into introducing people to Miles Morales, which they did, I think, wonderfully in the Spider-Verse movies, that now we're going to get them in a live-action movie. And I think because of it, it's going to benefit that you kind of eased into it. And you played the long game on it. I think that's how you'd have to do that with Wally West. because if you just throw him in there, you'd have a lot of explaining to do, right? Not if we're rebooting everybody and he's just our flash.

I mean, yeah, it's not wrong. But it's interesting nonetheless. And then speaking of which, Galgadoadot was also asked because there was a thing that came out the other day where they first had asked her, says, you're not coming back, doesn't seem like she's coming back. And then she said, behind the scenes, they are talking about it. It still is so weird and so bizarre.

like all of it. Like, I love when she shows up. I love when she showed up in Shazam 2. I loved when she showed up in the Flash. I love when she shows up. Me too. But the same thing. Find a new Wonder Woman.

Yeah. Let's recast. We had a thousand different Batman. We've had a thousand different James Bond. We've had so many different people play different characters. Let's move on. That universe, you've definitively said, we're not doing it anymore. Right.

Move on. You know something crazy that Mike told me? on DC and I was like, what? Do you know that Ben Affleck has been in the most movies as Batman of any Batman? How crazy is that? I guess that makes sense, right?

But he's never had a Batman movie. Right, well, Bail's been in three. Yeah, Michael Keaton's been in three. So let's see, Clooney, Valcum, yeah, I guess that makes complete sense because you have Batman v. Superman. Do you count the Snyder cut is two?

No, but you could. Yeah, Justice League. So whatever, Snob. Flash. What's the other one? He was in, was it Suicide Squad? He showed up in the Suicide Squad for like a second. That's true.

Yeah. Right, so it's a four. Yeah, if you're not counting Justice League, Snyder Crud is a different movie. I mean, they are different movies. They are significantly different movies. So you could, but that's four or five. Yeah, it's very interesting.

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What did you think? You know, people are asking me to do a review, because I don't review things anymore, except for all my social, really, or like sometimes when rotten tomatoes will call me in or you and I are talking about something, I only ever, people say to me, you only, you like everything. No, no.

I only make videos for the things I like. Right. Because I don't really feel like making videos for things that I'm mediocre about or don't like. You know, I don't have to. Yeah, I'm not a critic. So I haven't done a video for this one. A lot of people are asking my opinion on it. I'm thinking about putting one out because to me, this movie was very, it was mid.

It was, it was, it was. It was, it was, okay. It was not bad. It was definitely not great. It was fun. There was times that I thought it was very fun. It slowed down in the middle. And then there were times that I was like,

this is a two-hour, 36-minute movie. Is it that long? That feels like a three-hour movie to me. Yeah, it slowed down for sure. And I've been having this conversation. I had this conversation again yesterday with a visual effects person that still couldn't give me an answer on it.

And I feel like the only person I'm going to get an answer from, and this is John Favro. I don't understand why they keep. using de-aging. Stop it. Use deep fake or use nothing. Stop using de-aging.

Do you think he looked awful? It wasn't that he looked awful. It's just it's so freaking noticeable. When they're standing still, like Michael Douglas does in Ant Man, which is great, or, I mean, it moves around a little bit. But like when you're moving around that much,

it's like there were times that it was like, sometimes when he was just sitting down, and there's other times like, oh, that's not real. That's not real. That's not real. And I'm like, I don't want to think. that right now. I want to watch the scene because the opening scene feels

again, we're not going to do spoilers, but it just feels like an Indiana Jones movie. Totally. I was, despite agreeing with what you're saying, I was super in for the first little bit. I was like, ooh. Back. Yeah. And then, yeah, you hit a middle point where I was

like, and I don't do this often. I looked down to see what time it was and I was like, oh my God, we're one hour in? I would have sworn we were two hours in right now. Like, it just... It dragged a little bit.

Yeah, and that's not great. I think that indie and... What's Phoebe's character's name? His goddaughter. Yeah, yeah. Whatever the characters name it. I thought that they were awesome. They had a good chemistry.

Really good chemistry, really fun. What did you think of the young lad? I thought he was fine, but I thought he became a gimmick after a little bit. Yeah, yeah, totally. And so there were parts where it was like, and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they were parts where I was like, oh my gosh, like, why didn't you cut this whole sequence?

It was long. There was some, and I wasn't crazy about the ending? Like what she? No, not the main ending. Like the, there's a very emotional ending that I loved. But just the idea of what kind of happens. I thought that was interesting too. I thought it was interesting too.

You know, like, in, without giving any spoilers, it's very hard in these movies that are often really grounded at times and then, like, so not grounded at other times. To be fair, though, every Indiana Jones movie, right. So that is the theme of this, which I think maybe worked better at one point than it does today. Yeah. Yeah, to me, it's just execution. I think there's something, like, there were times that really, really worked

that felt like an Indiana Jones movie. still, this movie is 1,000 times better than Crystal Skull, in my opinion. Yeah, because it's definitely watchable. Because it feels like an Indiana Jones movie. More so than it's just like, again, is it on par with one and three? It isn't. But I enjoyed watching it. I had a fun time watching it.

I agree with everything you're saying. There was a point where I was just like, let's go. Let's go. And then a lot of people... And why aren't we going? Right. And it's just, I think that they're... Because you know what I think the problem was, when the, the,

other movies are exploring the mystery of it all. It's clever and it's like, oh, you need to get to this part and this part and this part, like the mystery and figuring out the puzzle pieces. I think the mystery and the puzzle pieces weren't as intriguing. Right. So by the time you're like, oh, okay. Right. Like you genuinely could have cut this because it wasn't, we weren't. As intriguing as we want it to be. Yeah. So, but I mean, and. But it's a, it's a worthwhile watching the theater, though. Like, it's a movie to go see in the theater. Yeah, if you're going to see it. If you're going to see it. Yeah. I think also, I love Mads. I think that he's great, but, um. Cuisher villain? Just like, be more. Like, really, other than knowing, I think that it's easy

when you know people are Nazis to just be like, oh, so those are the bad guys. But like, I kind of have to see you do some bad guy stuff. Right. And be this menacing bad guy as opposed to just relying on the fact that I know you're bad because what you're weird, you know? Yeah, you kind of have. I liked him, but and I think it's less to, I don't disagree that you, you know,

again, a little bit more development inside of it, but again, with a two hour and 40 minute movie adding any more, you'd probably be three hours. I will say that I didn't love his henchman. No. But because there was the stuff that worked that, like I said, the, the very blonde guy. music, I didn't mind him. The big, the big guy seemed very, and it wasn't his fault. It was just, it was, it was so cartoonish. And it felt like at times, I'm like, it wasn't any of their fault. So all the actors are there. Sometimes I'm going, okay, like, you hear those thuds and

the music kicks in, the John Lundum's, I'm like, oh, the chase scenes were, were awesome. And it was like very Indiana Jones. And then you get into this kind of goofy, like, get over here. And you're like, no, don't, don't do that. And then it seemed like so not mangled. It felt like on, while you're on the ride, like, VO that you would hear over. Yeah, it was just, it felt, get back here. Didn't feel, didn't have that, like, because for Indiana Jones, both one and three, almost had like a horror feel at points, too, like the ending of the movie and, like, some certain things that happened, like, not the movie itself, but, like, moments felt, like,

creepy and the way that Spielberg would shoot it, and I feel a little bit that was lost, and it was more, it was way more of a popcorn adventure, which I think that if you're looking, people are going to be, oh, I don't want that from Indiana Jones, I think that's fair, but I would rather have that than, just like, kind of like, I remember being a crystal skull going, get me out of here. I don't want to watch this movie anymore. I never felt that way with this movie. I liked watching it.

There is no mid or post-credit scene, so you just feel free to bounce because those are long credits. Yeah, they are. They are. Unless you want to hear the John Williams music. Yeah. Which we have the privilege of seeing, he, oh, this is so mad about this. So they announced, Spielberg's up there and he announces. He's like, I'm like, oh, they're going to do it.

The curtain rises and John Williams is there with the whole orchestra and everything too. And I'm like, oh, here we go. And he played like four songs from Indiana Jones, the new one. And he played the new theme for Phoebe Waller Bridge, but everything. And then he ends it with the indie. And I tape the whole thing. And my arm was super sore. But I'm like, I've got this whole thing.

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when the movie's over. And the intro, no, the introduction of Spielberg and everybody else that's all there, but those two clips didn't record. Just white box. It says 17 minutes or 18 minutes,

however long it was, but nothing. Just nothing. And then they, and I was like, oh, okay, great. When technology fails us, it is the most frustrated. At that moment, it's like.

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We'll talk about the Flash. And it's dropping now 14% for only 5.3 million on Tuesday. It's going to hit 75 million after our first full week. That's seven days in the theaters. That is far from the projected 70 million that they thought they were going to make in three. They're going to hit 75 million in seven. days in the theaters. The Flash had us a pretty dismal opening weekend at the domestic box office, but it didn't suffer as big of a drop as many expected heading into its fifth day in theaters,

by Mark Cassidy over a comic book movie. We recently learned that The Flash had an even worse opening weekend than initial reports, suggesting that while the movie continues to struggle and heads into its fifth day, it didn't suffer as significant as a Monday- Tuesday drop as people thought. It did 5.3 on Tuesday, which marks a 14% drop, sits at 665, which means 74 to 75 after a full week. A sign that things might not be as bleak as the device of superhero venture as we first thought. Not necessarily. The holiday likely paid a part in audience attendance this week, but then we'll see if the ticket sales hold up. The flash could end up being a massive financial loss for Warner Brothers DC Studios, so don't be surprised if the film starts running on fumes very soon. I think he is

100% accurate. I think he is right. I think this movie is going to be unfortunately, because remember we talked about this, I'm not, and correct me if I'm wrong. when we talked about this, I'm not pointing a finger going, you were wrong because I think that you very well could have been right at the time, but didn't you think that this was going to make like a ton of money? So this is what happened? You asked me and Chris Carr, how is this movie going to do?

Is it going to lose, break-even or make? Chris Carr said it's going to lose money. And I was like, what are you a fucking idiot? I remember looking at everything, lose, maybe break-even,

but it's definitely going to make money. I thought that, you thought that. I probably did, yeah. And I really, really truly thought, I remember we ranked it too, that Spider-Verse was going to make the most, but that this was going to be this... Close.

Yeah. This is why I'm not a box office, girly. I could not have been more wrong about this. I'm shocked with how poorly this is doing, with how good of a movie I think it is. Yeah, well, what's as crazy, though, is that normally when you look at, like, the audience, and it's like,

ah, the critics don't know what the hell they were talking about. I think a lot of audience. I was talking about this I think the other day on the live stream.

PJ Campbell, who we love. That dude loves every movie I've ever seen him talk about. He loves everything. He didn't like this one. A lot of our friend.

A lot of people. A lot of people I saw and people that I didn't know and people have seen in the comment section. And I was, I've never been. Hector wasn't hot on it either.

But is Hector not hot on it because of the stuff with Ezra though? I don't think so. I'm not sure, though. Yeah. I'm not sure, but I'm just curious. I mean, he's a comic book of Fishyna.

So he probably has a lot of reasons why. But I'm just curious. I wonder how much, and the reason I asked that, too, is I think there were a lot of people that did. I mean, I know people who loved it. It said it was hard for me to get past some of that stuff. And I was like, you know, and we've had that conversation. We don't go down it again.

But I would just, yeah. No, thanks. Let's spend the next 20 minutes on it. But the fact that it's going to be a black atom, which made more money. by the way, opening weekend, than this movie. I would still call the flop by people. Well, they said that it's not even going to break even.

That was the whole thing. This movie, in order for it to be a success at this point, has to break even. Which would mean it would have to make at least 400 mil, right? Probably. It costs 200, and I don't know with or without reshoots. Let's say marketing is anywhere between 100 to 200 million. So, yeah, anywhere between 350 to 400, it's got to make to break even. With Indiana Jones around the corner and Mission Impossible right after that,

nah. Chris Carr was 100% right. 100% right. It's going to be, this movie's going to... I really remember looking at her like she had six heads when she said that. She's right. Like it's not going to make it. It's a flash movie. You think the country cares. And I don't think this really had anything to do with people knowing about the Ezra situation.

I think it's a bunch of different things. Yeah, me too. I think it's a million things combined. It's some critics being not stoked on it and not getting the buzz because of possibly that situation and other things. It's the fact that DC is going in a completely new direction, and they're not marketing this the way that they would be if we were sticking with the Flash. Marvel, mediocrity.

Yeah, for sure. The superhero fatigue. I think it's so many things, but. Well, but it does show this. It does show how, and I think that this is another thing Chris Carr said when she was on the show, was that it is more about people are not going to just go and watch movies that are just subpar now. We're just not.

In the theater. Yeah, because across the Spider-verse, did was great and it did great. Now, the Flash, I think, was better than subpar. I really do. I think it was, I like it a lot. I think it was very good. But it also shows what a crapshoot the movie theater is these days.

Like, we're not too far removed from 2020, 2021 when the height of the pandemic and everybody was saying, the movie theaters are dead. They're dead. It's not going to happen. It's never coming back. It's not bouncing back. We've had those conversations on S-E-N millions of times. And then, no, no, no, it's coming back. and now everybody's going to see movies again.

It's changed. It's changed. Like the things that people, like, look at Sebastian Manuscalco and Burke Kreischer's movies, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So those, and both buddies in mind, both people that I like very much so. I think it was a colossal error for them to put those movies in the movie theater. It's not, it's not. If it was their choice.

Well, I'm probably sure they had the conversation, but that's a 2008, 2010 movie. Then you put that in the theater. Because that's what people want to see in theaters. Now with Amazon and Netflix. flick. I was at the dentist today. And I'm laying in the chair, the dentist. How'd it go? It was great, actually. And, like, there's 15 different

things coming up. Popping up. This is coming out. This coming out. This coming out. Thing about cloning that I didn't know. And this thing coming up on Netflix. I don't know what any of this is. And five of them were, like, romantic comedies and comedy movies. And they just people, that's what people are watching those movies now. They're not going out to see them in the theater. And they're being very selective about what

superhero movies they're seeing now, because Shazam eight shit. Black Adam barely broke even. Flash barely broke even. Did you see Elemental? I did not. Okay. Elemental is fucking tanking right now. It's eight shit. And I heard it's good. It is unbelievable. Oh my God. It's my favorite movie of the year.

Really? Yes. Air was my favorite movie of the year. And now it is elementary. Did you cry? At the very end something happens and I was like, you got me. You got me. I'm going to take the kids to see it. I think they're going to love it. But I think they're going to love it. more so than that, I think you're going to love it. It's so good.

I want to see it. I mean, I do want to see it. Like, I feel like it is for kids, but I think it's more for adults. I think Pixar shot themselves in the foot. Back with the Disney Plus day-in thing. And I love it because family was. The what thing? Put it in the theater, put it on Disney Plus at the same time.

Oh, day. Oh. So I think that people are... But that's not this, right? No. Yeah, yeah. But I think that it had an effect. I think it had an effect because a lot of those movies,

I mean, and again, same thing. Their movies have just been okay. I didn't mind Light Year, but my five-year-old, like who are you making that movie for? Right. My five-year-old was bored out of her mind watching that movie. Yeah, Elemental is a little long too, I think it's two hours, which kids' movie, you know, Little Mermaid was two and a half or something,

two-twenty. I don't know, I forget if Strange World was Disney or Pixar, but either way, same, same mouse. another one. The biggest, the biggest, the biggest losses of,

of the year for them. What's that other animated movie we were just invited to next week? Oh yeah, what is that? Crackin or something.

Yeah. That's like dream work. So, I might, I might, I see if Vivian wants to go, I might take her with me,

but, and plus there's really nothing out to talk. I mean, I'm going to see Mission Impossible on Tuesday, are you? Mm-hmm.

Okay, so Mission Impossible. Little Mermaid did well, right? No, not as well as you think. Oh, I thought, oh, I thought it did too. well.

I think Little Mermaid, not it. It made the studio money, right? I don't necessarily know if that's true. I thought at one point that it did. Okay. But then I think, because it did so poorly in, like, China. Let's see. Hold on.

I mean, yeah, no. I mean, it's made about $468 million. What was its budget? Let's see. Budget for Little Mermaid, 23. About $250. Wow, I thought Little Murray did well. Either broke even or barely broke even.

So, yeah, I mean, Disney hasn't been doing too great this year. So no, that's, didn't do very well. Yeah, it's nuts. So, I mean, and isn't it crazy in general how the summer season is just, what's Spider-Verse? What else has been, what else has been big? Guardians, guardians, not the Guardians is it okay. I think Barbie is going to be big. I do, too.

I think Oppenheimer will do okay. Oppenheimer will do good in a way that it's a rated R movie that, you know, I don't know how big the budget. I think it's a risk, but it's a... I mean, we'll do okay. Yeah, but it's not massive. Coming out the same weekend of Barbie. Barbie is probably problematic for it. I don't know, a different audience.

Yeah, it is, however, like the people that, okay, what are you more excited about? I don't know if that's, I don't know. You clearly should be more excited about. Oppenheimer. But you're excited about Barbie. So it's not different audiences. No, but wait, but excited about Oppenheimer, I am very interested to see. I love

Nolan and I want to see it because I love watching that guy make movies. But like, excited to see, oh, I can't wait to watch the guy build the mom. You know, it's like Yeah, but just is it really different audiences when Nolan's my favorite director, but Barbie's my most anticipated movie. Yeah, but from where you are, like there's the, look at it as the casual

movie fan of different audiences. That's the different audiences. I think a lot of people are stoked on or look, going to see both. Oppenheimer is not being as marketed as heavily and does not have the awareness that Barbie does. No, of course not, but just completely different audiences. I think they're both adult audiences. I don't know. I think teenage girls are going to see Barbie over Oppenheimer.

Definitely. It's a bigger audience. I think Margo Robbie and Ryan Gosling are going to bring in a very different audience than Killian Murphy. Absolutely. But you don't think there's a lot of. any crossover? I think there's some.

I mean, there's some crossover, but it's two, it's two different genres. Of course, of course. Yeah, so that's why I mean by different audiences, I think that, you know. They're not the exact same. Yeah. Of course not, but I think that there's more crossover because of the buzz around Barbie. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I, that one I just might have to be on different pages about, but, but I do.

I think, I just think it's a different audience. I think that, I think that both have the opportunity to both do well and not take things away from each other because there's a particular audience that's like I can't wait to see Barbie you want to see Oppenheimer? Who? You know there is that audience

I want to have a birthday party where we everybody has to wear all pink and they rent out of theater and everybody comes to see Barbie oh okay that's you why do that with the world girls

not everybody I don't think it's going to work for you oh no it's a good shot though. Okay. Yeah. What do you about you guys? Do you, what do you think?

Chime in about the, do you think it's two different audiences? I'm not asking if you're interested in seeing both, just because you want to see Oppahara. That is what I'm saying. If you're interested in seeing both, you're the audience for both. No, but it's not necessarily. It's just like if you, it's basically preference, right?

Like, it's basically preference. If you're going to go to the movies, you're going to take your family to see the movies. If I'm going to take my family to go see a movie? Well, just answer your own question. What's your preference? Ask me this. Am I going by myself or am I going with my family?

Just what's your preference? Am I going? Am I going by myself? I don't know. What do you prefer? If I'm going by myself, I'm taking Oppenheimer. If I'm going with my family, I'm taking him to see Barbie. So would you say you're the audience for both?

My preference for a family. Families are going to prefer to see Barbie. People by themselves are probably going to prefer to see Oppenheimer. And I leave it at that. Bye-bye. You wouldn't come to my birthday party? What? You're not going to come to my birthday party?

Are you really going to do that? I don't know. I reached out to them. Did you really try that for Warner Brothers? It's not going very well. Not going well. Would they tell you what is wrong with you? Well, especially considering the fact that I can't even get myself invited. They won't even let you to screenings.

They're going to sponsor your birthday morning. It's a bold choice. I like what you're doing there. Thanks. Before we move on, there's other things to talk about. I also want to know from you guys, by the way, why do you think that the flash aid is going to eat the pile of poop that it's going to eat? And even it breaks even, it's a pile of.

It's going to be a pile of. But it's, as far as a loss for them. I mean, that's not. I don't think there's any way it breaks even now, Christian. It's crazy, especially with Indy coming out and Mission Impossible. I, so, you know, my family's been gone for the week, and as I told you, night one, the green chef boxes show up. I'm so jealous.

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I could have gotten that, that. Trisha Dish. All right. I just rewatched Clerks. The first one's great. I hadn't seen it in so long. Did you watch the third one? No.

The third one is really good and emotional. Yeah, I got a... I really liked that. I'm not a big Clerks 2 fan. But Clerks 3 was really, really good. I liked that movie. It was, yeah, it was emotional, man. I actually think that, what's his face?

Kevin Smith. No. James. He plays Dante. Oh, I know. Shoot. He's. Oh, my God.

It's driving me crazy. He's in Madness, too, I think. His name is holy shit. This is horrible. No, I'm going to find it right now. It's driving me crazy, and I'm going to be so mad at myself. I'm going to give you a hint so that you can kind of get to. He was going to be in the Schmoden at one point.

He's great. It's driving me crazy. You're going to get, I'm going to give you a hint. You can give me a hint. Yeah, go ahead. But anyway, he is, Dante is probably the best part. of the whole thing. Okay.

Yeah. You gave me a hint? Yeah, but the hint that I thought it wasn't good to give. Okay, so what is it? It's Brian. Brian O'Halloran, yeah, yeah. Yes.

Sorry, Brian. Of course it is. Yeah, but he's great in it. Brian O'Halloran is probably the best part of Clerks III. It's really great. Cool. And so much so that I couldn't remember

the poor bastard's name, and I love him so much. Brian O'Halloran. All right, listen. Our bad. Let's move to another story here. What are going to talk about it? I want to talk about this Titanic thing.

Let's do that. So last night. You and everybody on the world, like everyone's talking about this. This is the It story. This is the big thing. It is. So, all right. I know you well enough that once you get locked into the story, you find every little detail out, right?

Okay, so here's what happened. I was at Indy, and I'm sitting down with Dorena, and Greg Alba comes over and was like, well, he's about this Titanic story. I hadn't heard of it yet. Oh, okay. He brought it up. Because I had been slammed. I was at shoot after shoot for the last two days.

So I was like, what are you talking about? And then him and Doreena were going back and forth about what happened, the billionaires and the water, the five of them, and that they were warned, you have to go down there and all of it, which we'll talk about. But I was like, what? So when I got home, I did some Googling.

But I haven't done as deep, pun intended, deep diving as I haven't done as deep of a dive as I would like to. Yeah, so, I mean, basically it was that they had, it seems like it's set up from a damn movie, right? Like they have, except at one point, if all goes well and they get rescued, hopefully, you know, Jason Statham would play the guy going to rescue them underneath the water. Do you think that's what's going to happen?

No, I don't. It doesn't seem like that. No, I don't, I don't, unfortunately. I mean, it's going to be a movie regardless, but. Yeah, I know, but unfortunately, I don't, I hope it has a happy ending. I just, it just, from. Doesn't feel like that. At this point, I mean, there was 11 hours left to air, like, you know,

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, I think it was eight hours ago. So I don't know, I don't know what it is. I don't know if they, I mean, I haven't seen any updates yet. And by the time we put this out, we're going to know more. They'll have more information. But, or they won't because they can't find the, so basically what they did, the expedition that they, they do these things where they go to try to find a look at the Titanic. And people, they spend like $250,000 to go in to spend it to go.

And these are billionaires. Of course. And they go to look at and they, there's like, it was like a kid on this on, on, on this. one and the owner of the company that runs these expeditions was was in this thing also and they're going down it to find it and so i don't know how they went off course though so they went off course or something they were warned before they went down this the sub is not ready there's a couple of issues and they said fuck it let's do it so i think that's how it went off course because i think that that wasn't made it wasn't ready yeah so now that have you heard about the banging noises that was

the most recent no i haven't i mean to be fair I saw a little bit of it. I spent about 10 minutes on it, and then the news sensationalizes everything. Totally. And the news was spending like, that's why I watched Lester Holt. I'm an 80-year-old man.

I watch Lester Holt, because Lester Holt spends, he gives you the information, he spends 10 minutes on it, and he moves on in the next story. But there's some people, like my mom, and people just want to lock into the story, and so other news stories will spend like an hour just talking about it. And people don't always tune into the news

at the top of the hour. Right, that's true. Just keep repeating it. But I hear you that. Sometimes you're watching something and you're like, I get it. I get it. You're saying the same thing over and over. Not that this story isn't important, but you know what I mean.

Yeah, you know what I miss was, remember when John Krasinski was doing the good news? Like, can we get that again? Because everything sucks. But the, so apparently there's a sound, this banging sound that they're hearing under the water. Oh, so they're probably like banging on it. So now the search expands exponentially as more sounds are being heard. This article, the Independent did, missing Titanic subs search widens as mystery. banging sound reports for the second day.

Just imagine... It's pretty crazy. We don't know... We almost know as little about the ocean as we do about space. Yeah. Oh, 100%. It's just so vast. And when you're down there...

We can't find you. Where was this? I don't know if it was it... What the hell was it? Was it a movie? I don't know what the hell it was. With the plane that disappeared? No, but it was just like...

But going off from what you just said with how... crazy the ocean is. You can land on just like a thing of sand and then it just goes down and down in like cities and shit. Like you don't know what the hell's down there. No, I do. I always had like this idea, you know, that I'd love

to like the water, like if the aliens one day when they do come in, they can just pick up the water for a second and freeze it so we can see all the shit that's down there. Completely. Like you see stuff. Goillions of dollars. Every time, even in, uh, movies that we've seen recently or whatever, I've just thought about how deep the ocean is and like, wishing that.

we could build a wall and then like lift out parts of the water into other parts just to look at every patch of the ocean because I'm so curious what is down there and how long the world has been around. I know what it was. I was being vague.

But yeah, there's a, there's a water scene. I mean, that doesn't mean. Yeah. Yes question very good. There's just a water scene. And is that you can, I mean, that's not, I mean, I think it's in the trailer, You see water.

But I think about it all the time and everything that I'm watching. Like with all the animals that are down there, all the species that we don't even know exist. All the cities, everything. Do you think octopus? Do you think they're aliens? I don't. That was the rumor. I do think that there are aliens, but I don't think of the octopus.

Octopus looks like a fucking alien, though. Yeah, it does. Based on nothing other what we think aliens look like. Or the craziest thing rocks up. They're not the aliens, and we are. Yeah. Also a theory. Mm-hmm.

Who knows? And they're looking at us like, get out. Get out of here. You guys have ruined this planet. Yeah, where we come from? Yeah, you've ruined it. And the octopus are even more upset. Do you know why?

They're massive Yellowstone fans, and Kevin Costner is no longer on that show. So tell me what's up. All right, let me tell you. There's been drama going on this show for months. And then it was finally revealed. Everybody knew Kevin Costner was going to be Gonski. This was like...

No, we didn't know he was going to be gone. There was rumors. Yeah, but people were... By the time he was getting closer and closer, like, it's over. He's gone. And then, and then, this is like, just to put this into perspective, this is kind of like Tony Soprano, James Gendifini, leaving the Sopranos in the height of the Sopranos.

In February, he came reports of alleged turmoil between Kevin Koster and Taylor Sheridan over the actress filming commitments to the remaining episodes of the current fifth season. Three months later, it was announced that Kostner would not be returning to the show after the current fifth season ends. At the time, it was also reported that there were still, no updates on whether the cast and crew was going to return to Montana to finish shooting the

remaining episodes. Costner himself remains busy with his multi-film Civil War saga Horizon. In addition, a once-rumored spinoff series starring Matthew McConaughey was also announced as officially moving forward at Paramount Network. Today, Sheridan has spoken with the Hollywood Reporter. He confirms that Costner reportedly asked for a fewer days the last season to concentrate on his own Western Passion Project. He said, my last conversation with Kevin was that he had this passion project he wanted to direct. He and the network were arguing about when he could be done with Yellowstone, and I said we certainly could work a schedule toward it, his preferred exit date, which we did. Costner opted to film his scenes early on while scripts were being written,

but tensions rose due to Costner's schedule. Sheridan says the following. My opinion of Kevin as the actor hasn't altered. His creation of John Dutton is symbolic and powerful. I've never had an issue with Kevin that he and I couldn't work out on the phone. But once lawyers got involved, then people don't get to talk to each other and start saying things that aren't true and attempt to shift blame based on how the press or public seem to be reacting. He took a lot of this on the chin

and I don't think that anyone deserves it. His movie seems to be a great priority to him and he wants to shift focus. I am sure that I hope that the movie is worth it and it's... I sure hope that the movie is worth it and that it's a good one. I'm disappointed. It truncates the closure of this character.

It doesn't alter it, but it truncates it. With the studio now focused on the McConaughey led follow-up series. Sheridan says he's optimistic about McConaughey getting on board and dubbing him a natural fit. I think this is the reason why Taylor Sheridan is as successful as he is.

This is a great answer. What else can you say at this point? He's like, look, sucks. I've always been able to talk to a man-to-man. Lawyers got involved. He got some shit for it. He wants to do his movie. Let him do his movie. Okay, good luck. I hope so. And it sucks. It's not how I wanted to end the character.

That's the type of answers I've always been looking for for executives and creatives and stuff, too. He's like, I mean, it's as honest as it gets. He's like, it sucks. What do you want him to do? Just, you know, that guy's a scumbag, man. What are you going to get, what are you going to accomplish from that? Yeah, completely. I am a diehard yellow star fan.

Yeah, I know. That's why I wanted you to talk about it. This is such a bummer. Yeah, I'm sure. I agree with you that he gave the best answer he possibly could give. And I also don't think that it's wrong that Kevin Costner, especially at the point that he is in his career, wants to do his own movies and wants shorter filming schedule or whatever it is.

And I'm sure that they really did try to figure out a way to make it all work. And it just didn't happen for one reason or another. TV's a grind, man. Totally. But for the fan, especially TV that's not shot here and, you know, demanding like this show is. For the fans, this fucking sucks. This sucks. Like, I love this show like you just talked about.

This is Walter White leaving Breaking Bad. This is Tony Soprano leaving The Sopranos. this is right now to me Yellowstone is succession of the Wow Wow West but the reason that it's different is that there is one lead

and it is Kevin Costner it is a family show yes but he is the patriarch or the fan he's the guy well so I have not I think I watched like three episodes loved it but I've watched 1883 and 1923

all the way through because it's only like one season apiece so far and I love 1888 83. I saw it today they were putting it on, they're doing something else with it, and they're putting on like, I thought they were announcing a second season or something, but it was still, it doesn't really make sense considering you know everything that happens. But what I ask you is a someone who's, are you all cut up? No, I saw 19 and I haven't seen 18. Oh, on Yellowstone. I'm all caught up. Yes, I mean, on Yellowstone. So you're all cut up on Yellowstone. So does it, I mean, without spoiling anything, does it, do they close up, the, his, his, his art? or do they do something along the lines where it's like, don't tell me how, but it's, I guess it's such a weird question. No, I have no idea what they're going to do.

No. Oh, they haven't even shot it. From what I've seen. He's still around at this point. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what their plan is here. Okay. Because it's too confusing where they are in the story.

They're going to have, when he says it doesn't change it, it just truncates it. I mean, I hear what he's saying, but I don't know what that possibly could. So do they, what, how many seasons are there right now? Five. Okay, so they finish season five. So basically, so is this what it is basically that season five ended and now they don't have him for six? I guess.

Oh, that's what it is. I guess that's what he's saying. Okay. So they needed five. Let me make sure that that's accurate. But I'm just trying to figure out. So they ended five who basically as a fan, you're going, oh, I wonder what's going to have next.

Next, the answer's like, well, they're just going to explain. And they thought they were going to have him. Right. So they wrote, they wrote as if they were going to have him. to me. Now, is there any way that, I mean, because the McConaughey thing is, you know, that's a good, that's a good replacement. But is there any way they don't replace him as if like, it's not a recast. It's just, it's just a, it's just another character.

Oh, okay. So this is interesting. Yeah. Okay. So Yellowstone, maybe what they're doing. So the last episode of Yellowstone we saw was in January, 2023. And it was season five, episode eight. Okay.

You know how Breaking Bad did that part A and part B thing? So it looks like they're calling episode nine whenever it comes out still season five. Okay. So maybe there's still a back half of this season that's taking place later this year. That does make it work. Because where we left off, he's just a character on the show. Right. So it doesn't seem like there's any ending in sight.

I mean. With him? He's not in, he's not always been in the best of health. Right. But like. That's probably. what they're going to do. Yeah. Yeah. He's got a very stressful job and he's had some

issues. He doesn't seem to lose any chance in hell that he can ever come back. It's interesting. It's crazy. I wonder if you guys are, if your fans out there, what do you think about this? Do you think this was a mistake? Should they try to get them back at all costs? Or it's like, no, it was just too toxic at this point? I kind of think they should close out the show. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what they shot for the back half, but.

It makes me not want to watch Yellowstone now, though, to be honest. Well, we'll see what they do because now that I know, I thought that meant we were never seeing him again. now it looks like we have a few episodes with him. So we'll see what they do. I stick with 1923 because I'll tell you, what a year for Harrison Ford. What a year.

Harrison Ford and then the other dude from, oh my God, from Air. And who's, who's the, he plays the agent. Yeah, I know.

And he was in boogeyman. The brown hair, dark brown hair. He's great. David, Michael Bryant. Something like that. David Michael Frank.

Moe Root. What the fuck is his name? But either way. You're not going to, this is not the show you come to for names. I mean, usually I'm decent at it, but not today, apparently. Christmas Cina, Jesus Christ.

Not even close. Wow, and I knew that, too. I think he put a David in something else. I knew it was Christmas, too. Let me see. I want to see if there's anything else that I'm missing out here on story-wise. Hold on. Let's go with TV, man.

Roxy Stryor. What do you got first? Okay, so I didn't do that many this week. The reason being that Black Mirror dropped. Oh, yeah. And I watched all five of the new Black Mirror episodes, and they're all, Like mini movies.

Have you ever seen Black Mirror? Do you know the premise of this show? Not really. Okay, so every episode, completely different cast, completely different premise, completely different. Yeah, but like even more different because they're, like, like, different. No, yeah, like Twilight Zone kind of. It's just, but each one is, some of them are like longer or shorter, you know, they just have creative freedom to do whatever the heck they want on the show.

Yeah. So I, this is one of my favorite shows, and I actually think you would love it too because the sci-fi elements of it that ask the questions of like where do we go and we're gone? What does technology doing for people? They all have these tech angles to them too. Didn't Brace Dallas Howard do one of those also?

It was pretty good. So many massive, massive stars. I mean, the people that they got for these most recent five episodes is huge A-list celebrities. Like the way that Dave had, I can't spoil for you, never mind, I won't tell you who came on that show.

But just they have huge stars. The first episode starts Salma Hayek. I saw the picture. They do an amazing job with it. And I thought that these five were as strong. Every time, I'm like, are they going to botch this? And every time they find an angle where I'm like, that is a really interesting question that you're answering.

That's a really cool premise. I don't know. Because they dropped them at like four episodes of the time. So I don't even know. It doesn't matter. Yeah, they call them seasons. But these were really, really good. They don't leave you feeling.

good ever though. I will say that. I'm so creeped out by this show and the possibilities of what AI does, technology does, how it affects different people that I love this show and I remember the creators talking about this a while ago like they don't know if right now is the right time period for it almost because it's unnerving. Yeah, it's when you're watching this stuff it is it can be very freaky. It's very freaky. It's very freaky. things that are happening on the show. So I definitely, if you're a Black Mirror fan, I think you're

going to love this as much as you've loved a lot of them. And it's still super duper worth your time. But also, I wouldn't watch it at bedtime. It's like, it's just a lot. I started Secret Invasion, which, so I watched the first two episodes. You watch this as well? Okay. Did you? I watched the first two. Okay, cool. I think they did a, I think the show is very good. I think it's well done. I don't know whether I'm just experiencing fatigue in the genre or what, but it is, It's a really serious show, and I kind of am not in the mood for the seriousness of this.

It seems like some people are feeling that way, right? I, this is when I had put my first two non-spoiler reviews. I like that. I like the spy thriller side of it, but I can understand because it's a slower burn. It to me reminds me of kind of slow burn than Andor. I think the writing's better in Andor, but I still think it's got that kind of feel. But the end of the first episode, Christian, which I think people can have seen, which I won't spoil. but like is that real?

I think so. Seems like it. Yeah, that's crazy then. I mean, so what they're continuing to do with their shows is say, you have to watch these. Yeah. You have to watch it. If you are a Marvel person. It all connects.

And you want to understand what's happening. You have to watch the show. And when we saw that up, the pilot, I was like, oh, okay, so they're making this a must-watch TV show. It seems like it. Yeah. Yeah. So must watch. And then the last one.

The last one, I'm only two episodes deep, but I wanted to talk about it, and then I'll talk about it next week because I'll be finished with it. Buckus. This is... Which one is that? This is Pete Davidson. I started it. Okay, you started this? Yeah, I did.

Did you watch the pilot? I started the first 15, 10 minutes and I bailed. So did you watch in the first couple of minutes, Pete Davidson, come on his mom? Yeah. That's why I bailed. Okay. I think it's hysterical that people talk about the idol. Like, it's like this, like, raunchy breaking the inner.

at whatever thing when there shows like Bupkus where in the first minute of a show Pete Davidson is coming on his mom's chest. That's legitimately what happens. It's a VR situation but Yeah, it's like it's the reaction of what happens when it happens that I was like, oh, I get the tone but it's not

it's not for me. Totally. So the first episode that happens and then there's like a situation where he has Pesci in it. Yeah, he's trying to like get somebody to have sex with somebody else by like jumping on a bed. It's whole story. The pilot was a lot. I love Pete Davidson, but it was a lot, and it was very

Pete Davidson. If you watch his stand-up and you don't like his stand-up, it's very likely you're not going to like this show. But the second episode is all about young Pete Davidson's dad dying in 9-11. Yeah. And him, the next week, going to his aunt's wedding. And like how people talk to him and like what it's like now to not, whatever was. And I was like, wow, the second episode is very good. Is it? Okay. So I don't know that it's up your alley and I'll report back next week, but it is taking a lot

of big swings. I do like him though. Yeah. I just didn't like the opening to me. And I like Edie Falco and I love Joe Pesci. So that's why I watched it. I was like, oh, man, this could be the show for me. And that opening bit, I was like, oh, it's.

It tries, it tries, sometimes a show is trying a little too hard. It's not as natural as Dave or Curb Your Enthusiasm or Rami or some of these other shows. Well, the ones I just named, though, are like, comedians about themselves. You know what I mean? This is, and they say it's not fully about him, but like, it's clear

you know, the character's called Pete. But that opening scene, again, it's like, that's again why I watched it. I'm like going, okay, this is going to be about his life and kind of the funny kind of moments about it and how that plays in. And then when that thing happened with the VR, I'm like, because the way that she reacts.

It's a lot. But the way she reacts, I'm like, yeah, but the way she reacts, yeah, exactly. But she reacts like, anyway, what's for dinner? Yeah. And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, It's like if that happened to anybody, like, oh, you go to therapy. Yeah.

It's like, it was like a bit. Yeah, totally. And I was like, I think for you guys at home, either watch it all with me this week and next week we'll talk about it. Or if you're not sure about it, wait until next week and then I'll report back at the end of the season. Yeah. All right. Well, look, there you go. Have you watched any of those shows?

Do you want to watch any of those shows? What do you think the most of everything we talked about here today? What stood out? What was your favorite black mirror episode? I want to know which one people are liking best of this season. Should I watch it? What do you think? All right. For Roxy Stryor, you catch her on the World Girls.

Check her out at Roxy Stryor. Get those tickets, man. You only have one more day. Tomorrow, we're going to be in New York. So get the tickets. Thechristorholov.com. Get those live stream tickets. It'll help out the show.

It'll help you out. You get to see it. You get to watch. You get to watch the stand-up. You get to watch all of it. Okay. And then again, shoes and beef. Coming in hot July 1st.

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