The Kristian Harloff Show - The Flash: Will it be a Box Office Hit or Another Disappointment for WB?

Episode Date: June 1, 2023

Join the site! http://www.thekristianharloff.com The Flash is a highly anticipated upcoming movie from Warner Bros. that has fans of the DC Comics world excited and intrigued. The film is set to star ...Ezra Miller as Barry Allen/The Flash, and is rumored to incorporate a multiverse storyline, featuring appearances from other versions of The Flash, as well as other DC heroes and villains.  While the anticipation for The Flash is high, there is also some skepticism among fans and critics alike regarding its potential success as a box office hit. Some worry that the film may fall short of expectations or struggle to compete with other summer blockbusters. However, with the ongoing success of superhero movies and the popularity of The Flash as a character, many are optimistic that the film will deliver and potentially even exceed expectations. In addition to The Flash, there are several other highly anticipated summer movies on the horizon. Another buzzed-about project in the superhero world is the upcoming sequel to Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, titled Across the Spider-Verse. The film is set to feature the return of Miles Morales and other fan-favorite Spider-Verse characters, and is generating a lot of excitement and anticipation among fans. Overall, the remainder of the summer movie season is shaping up to be an exciting and thrilling time for film fans everywhere. Join Kristian, Roxy and special guest KRIS CARR on today's episode! #MCU #The Flash #DCU #DC #spiderverse #marvel  ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.athleticgreens.com/bigthing RUMPL: http://www.rumpl.com/thebigthing GREEN CHEF: http://www.greenchef.com/thing60 MINTMOBILE: http://www.mintmobile.com/thing OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Happy Thursday, everybody. Thanks for joining us on the show today. It's an exciting one. I'm pumped. New, new guests. But to you guys is going to be someone you see almost every day. I'm old hat. Old hat.
Starting point is 00:00:13 At this point, it's true. But I'm not telling you yet who it is. Of course, you know, it's probably where you clicked on the video in the first place. But we have a lot to talk about, man. We got the flash. That's coming out. And finally, someone addresses the Ezra Miller situation. And there's a comment about it.
Starting point is 00:00:28 So we'll talk about that. we'll talk about the across the spider verse I saw it Roxy saw it question is how much is it going to make there's reports will we see record breaking something making more than the last one we'll discuss it that and more and don't you forget about Roxy's TV picks
Starting point is 00:00:47 I'm excited so me, Roxy and yes Chris Carr is here so we will be talking about all those things and more but make sure before you even do it show a little class just an ounce 100,000 subscribers are trying to get there almost at 80 and that's because of you guys, hit that button. Do it. New York, New York, New York. We're going to be there live show. June 23rd. Get your tickets. Getting close to being sold out. Everybody, myself, Mark Ellis,
Starting point is 00:01:09 double-toasted, Brett Sheridan and Jen Sturger, and of course, Kate Mulligan doing the thing. But let's do the thing right now. Let's do it. It's a big thing. Cool. Yo, yo, yo, what's up, everyone? Back at it again. Christian Harlow here. Me, Roxie Stryor, and Chris Carr. This is the first time we are actually kind of even meeting. I know. It's bizarre. Which is very weird.
Starting point is 00:01:41 You don't know her? I do you hear that? We never met in person. Yeah. We would just like swap chairs basically at Campia every now and then. I assume you just had to like throw my butt pad somewhere because I'm shorter than everybody. They didn't have to change the titles too much because we spell names both the K. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Correctly. Correctly. That's absolutely right. But I keep, every time I would hear Chris Carr, Chris Carr, you have to meet. You have a very cute name. Chris Carr. Thank you. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:05 That's like a celebrity. name. Thank you. My married is supposed to be Chris Peets, which sounds like something you'd eat when you're stoned and regret it. Like all those fucking Chris Peets really messed me up. And so I can't take that one. I like that too, actually. Really? Yeah. You're perfect for that. Yeah. Chris Peets, I would love. I could see a Chris
Starting point is 00:02:20 Carr, Roxy Stryor, a double, a buddy cop movie. Let's go. I could say it. For sure. So what do we have to do to get me in New York? What's the number? Yeah. It ain't going to happen right now. But I got better opportunities coming up that I can't talk about you. What's the number? What's the number? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 you're the one that can fundraise better than anybody that's what I'm saying the people at home I don't know we gotta get you you gotta get to be able to get a hotel room and a freaking plane ticket man that's all it is I was gonna say people are generous come on yeah I want to go it's already kicked on all of a sudden the fubar yeah when I'm not a foob bar you know my can I come with homo it would be fubbar it would be fubar it would be it's the Arnold come on the Arnold show yeah yeah I didn't even know my show you got to figure it out yeah I've got to fomo you know my show you got to figure it out yeah I've got FOMO, you know, and so every time I keep seeing that.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah, I understand. I understand. I'm supposed to be there. But, no, it's a pleasure to finally get to talk to you and we get to do it on air. And it's, yeah, we never got a chance to be on the show together. But you're, so you're on shot, John's show four days a week? I'm on four days a week. And you, you guys never crossed paths?
Starting point is 00:03:24 So every time she was there, you weren't allowed? It wasn't, it wasn't a matter allowed. They were like, there's too many Chris's. Well, it sounds like that. Yeah. Maybe, maybe it's too, there's too much Chris with a K. for the people to handle. No, but just never did.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And then had the opportunity. Oh my God. Did you ever go by Chris? My friends and family back in New York will call me that. Shut the fuck up. I don't really. I didn't know what you guys were just talking about. Does she think his name is? And then I was like, oh my God, it is Chris.
Starting point is 00:03:51 It is? You are so not a Chris. I know. So many people, though. Like my, you know who calls me Chris out of our circle? I'll give you one guess. Tom? No.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Kaiser. Oh. Permanente? Yeah, right? I call him that. as well. But no, he's a New York guy as well. I've never heard anybody ever. My friends and family call me Chris, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:04:11 My wife does not call me Chris because I do not really allow people to call me Chris because it's just not my name. Even as a kid, you never went by Chris? In New York, some people would. As a little boy, did people call you Christian? I started to get it more and more. Yeah, I wouldn't risk because I don't think I respond to it as much too. I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I'm that wayful name. What's your name? I'm Christine. And in the south, I'm a Christine Marie. Ah. Where are you from originally? I'm from Texas. You're from Texas?
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah, and my mom's from Boston. And so it's that Christine, Dorchester. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah, she's tough. But so, yeah. I'm from Boston. Oh, nice. What part are you from?
Starting point is 00:04:43 Newton. Now is tough. Oh, shit. Okay. I'm tough. Yeah. That's great, though. Yeah, if someone calls me Christine, though, I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 00:04:50 How did you get, so I don't know the full story, how did you get involved in this crazy space? I know your voice actor. I know you teach voice acting as well, too. I have my own studio, speak friend's studio. I teach stuff. Yeah. Basically, before I was working for, I went digital and I would do kind of nerd-centric sort of videos for them where it was binge an entire show in a day and then write up an editorial on it and film that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And then I saw John's posting for it for his show. I applied to that. He had a posting for a host position. Oh, yeah. He did a few times. He just did just do that for Collider too. That's wild. Like a LinkedIn situation or a handshake or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I think it was casting network. He used to do that for AMC and Clare. Yeah. And so we had that meeting. Everything else is so incestuous. I didn't know that anybody ever like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how this is happening. I'm just like, oh, I kind of know you.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Let's do this. And then we had a callback kind of meeting where I was way too full of myself. And I was just like, you're going to hire me. Did you say it in the room? Yeah. I was a little asshole. I was like, you're going to hire me. I'm really good at this.
Starting point is 00:05:47 What year are we talking about? This was 2018? Oh, really? Yeah, 2018 or 2019. Yeah, maybe 2019 because I think I worked for him for a year. And then something happened. Yeah. And then I wasn't doing.
Starting point is 00:05:59 movie news for about a year with that. I was still with I1 Digital. And then I came back this past year. Awesome. Yeah. But like I said, it was a matter of time before we did something together. We're going to talk about a lot of fun stuff today because you're also your big comic book movie nerds. Same way through. So we're going to talk about Marvel, DC, all the things, Star Wars. What's your jam? Marvel's my big one
Starting point is 00:06:19 and Spider-Man and Spider-People are my jammed. Did you get a chance to see it yet? I'm seeing it tomorrow. Okay, cool. Yeah, I'm very excited. Yeah, so we will not spoil anything for anybody, including yourself. But let me bring up this variety article because I do want to talk about it. Hold on. All right. This is over at Variety. Brent Lang. The box office for Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse is swinging to $80 million opening. The boogeyman is now eyeing a $15 million debut.
Starting point is 00:06:43 How high can the Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse climb? The sequel to 2018's Oscar-winning Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse is getting a lift from good buzz and residual fondness for its predecessor, one of the inaugural cinematic forays into all things multiverse. And while reviews are still embargoed, critics flip for this one. So assuming that the follow-up sticks to the landing, yada, yada, yada, what can it ultimately make? Yeah, it's like, so the question is how. Brent with a yada, yada, yada, okay. Yeah, yeah, yada.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Well, they're saying that it's going to about a close to $80 million. Okay, Christian. So opening weekend, yes. Recalling you, Circa, last week, maybe two weeks ago, you said you thought this was going to do significantly better than the flash. How are you feeling now? I still feel that way. You think financially this is going to make a lot more money than this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And if you look at the tracking, I think you would say the same. How do you feel about this? First of all, let's start Roxy's question, Chris. Which movie does better? I definitely think Spider-Verse, 100%. And this is a thing that I know a lot of people talked about of like, the average movie go, do they know all the drama with Ezra Miller? Do they know all the behind-the-scenes things?
Starting point is 00:07:46 I think a lot of people do because it's had a very kind of TMZ life. And this movie's been in the making for almost a freaking decade. I moved here when they announced this and we're casting this. So I feel like people have kind of teetered off of their interest for it. And I know we keep hearing all these stories of like, this actor really loves this. Henry Cavill supposedly loves this. Tom Cruise thinks this movie is amazing. I keep having people tell me how good this movie is.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I just need to see it, I guess. But I don't believe that it's that great and life-changing. I'm not going to tell you that's life-changing. I'm going to tell you it's a very good movie. I've heard it's good. It's a very good movie. The best comic book movie ever? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:08:23 and if people go and see it and think that it is, I'm happy for them, and then that'll help. I think it's a movie people should see in the theater. I think it's really good. I think, Roxy, there are a lot of different reasons why this movie is only tracking
Starting point is 00:08:34 at $70 million, though. Like $70 million for this movie is not something that I think Warner Brothers and D.C. is probably super excited about. Yeah, I think I'm on the opposite side of the fence as you, Chris, I went on a date the other day and to talk later about all right, all right.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Apparently not. I thought it did. I don't read the real. Thank you, Chris. That will be a topic. That will be a topic right after this. Point being, he lives in L.A., but just is not in the entertainment industry. And he was like, what's the biggest, you know, buzz in the, you know, first date question. So, trying to get to know what I do. It was the biggest buzz in the entertainment space right now. So we're talking about Jonathan Majors that was that week when everything was happening.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And then he was like, oh, and I was like, you know, it's kind of like similar. to the Ezra Miller situation. And he was like, who's Ezra Miller? Right. Not what happened with Ezra Miller. Who is Ezra Miller? Right. Which made me realize, like, all the time we realize we're in a bubble.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And then I asked my grandparents, they didn't know who Ezra Miller was. And they didn't know the story. I asked my sister, she didn't know who Ezra Miller was. I called some of my friends from home, sent her a group text to my girlfriends. They did not know who Ezra Miller was. Not only do they not know what happened, they've never heard of Ezra Miller. Ezra Miller is not an A-List celebrity, the way that in a-list celebrity, the way that in our space.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Like if somebody was sitting at this desk and said, who's Ezra Miller? We'd be like, why are you here? What rock have you been under? Right.
Starting point is 00:09:59 But they're just not a, they're not a star. Well, we forget. Anybody that follows, any of the shows that we're on in general will know the story of Esther Miller because we report on it, right? I'm in the same camp
Starting point is 00:10:10 because I did the same thing. We had this big conversation on the Friday show a few months back and Winston and I were talking about it and I was in your camp. And I'm like, the casual person I don't feel is caught up in this story at all.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I wanted to test that. So I was walking my kids to school, and I said to one of the parents. Oh, good day. I know, I know. And I said, well, I left. I just, I forgot they were in there. I had this conversation. And then I abandoned them.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And I totally just had this conversation to prove myself right. And I was walking down the street. And I was talking to this guy. And I was like, well, let me ask you about this particular situation. And it was this very same conversation that you had. And I was, Ezra Miller. And he's like, I don't really know who Ezra Miller is. But what I will say is this.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I think that it's one of the main reasons that, Warner Brothers will not be doing a lot of press for this movie. For sure. Because it will start to get more into the casual viewer. Because when the press starts coming out, then more articles are going to be written. Because if Michael Keaton's doing interviews, he's going to be asked about it.
Starting point is 00:11:07 This story we're about to tell in just a second, someone's asked about it. And the words getting out there more. So more of the casual fan will know. I just don't think that, because Ezra Miller is also not, what's he been in that has been the major blockbuster movie? I know you can say Zach Snyder's movie and then he was in...
Starting point is 00:11:25 The Harry Potter, the Fantastic Beasts. Right. He was in a wallflower. Right, but it's not... They're really good in that. Yeah. Yes, but not in the... I mean, they are very good.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Incredible. Incredible. Incredible performer. The issue more so is that you look at like, say like Jonathan Majors, right? Jonathan Majors was just in two blockbuster movies where he was kind of front and center on both of them with Ant Man. Now, whether or not Ant Man did the money that Marvel wanted it to. Even Jonathan Major is not a household name. Not a note.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I think more so his name because of all you look at Creed, right? Yeah. I think people have seen him, but it's not like saying Michael B. Jordan. It's not like saying Ben Affleck. It's not like saying. Of course, of course not. I think it's more of like an image recognition where you go, oh, yeah, that guy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I think that he, in between the two of them, I think right now he's going to be the one that they probably recognize a little bit more, even more so that Ezra Miller. but Ezra Miller is starting to get more recognition, and I think this conversation will come up. But either way, I don't necessarily think, though, that that's the only reason this movie's tracking at 70. I do think, even though it's a part of the inside the bubble, I do think that it has a lot to do. Well, what the hell's going on with D.C.?
Starting point is 00:12:38 Exactly. That has to do with the marketing strategy, too, Christian, because it's not just that people at home, the average person do they know that DCEU is coming to an end? It's just D.C.U. not and moving forward. Maybe they don't know that, but they only know what the studios are telling. And the studios are not, this Warner Brothers is not saying you have to see this movie in order to move forward with DC the way that Marvel does that with their movies. Yeah, it's kind of the actual opposite
Starting point is 00:13:05 of, well, we're doing a blank slate. We're going to get rid of everything. We have all these A-list names, right? The Gal-Ga-Dots, the Henry Cavils, who aren't coming back. So then why do you see this movie is kind of it? And I understand. understand that the DCU is going to do else worlds and there's totally room for all these kind of one-off things and everything but again if it's oh i heard that they're getting all new people do i even need to go see this are you going to prioritize this movie then or are you going to even get your tickets in advance because i don't know about you guys i started checking out just like on my regal app hey do i really need to go get a ticket soon spiderverse my theater was like chockerbox right whereas flash it was what chocker
Starting point is 00:13:41 box was really really full what's a chocker box i love i love this i love when you get so like Into something. Well, because you heard a new term. You love this. Your eyes, like, lit up. Go ahead. Let's stay on this instead of flesh. Put a,
Starting point is 00:13:57 put an ashter's in chakabre-bred. We're going to doggier that. You guys also used another term earlier that I was like, what is that one? What was that? I don't remember. Dating? Poor Roxy and her vocabulary.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I went to, like, public school in Texas, too, though. So sometimes I do talk wrong. Wait, so you're saying it was full. It was full. Yeah, yeah. It was very, very full. It was chock-boxed. Where the flash ones, I was like, I can just walk in theater that day.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Right. Well, I mean, I think that, I do think, again, that there is absolutely 100% merit in that where there is a portion of people who are feeling, I don't know where this goes, I don't know where it connects. Clearly, Henry Cavill's not a part of it anymore, so I don't need to get my tickets. Now, there's other people who have no idea what the hell the DCE you ever was and if it connected all those, really casual fans. And the way that my wife is a casual Star Wars fan.
Starting point is 00:14:44 She doesn't give a crap about Star Wars, but if Ray's in a movie, she's going to see it. Right? that's as where, that's not the same case, but what I will say is this, is that there are also the other portion of the, of the fans that just want to go see the movie because Michael Keaton's in it. And they're leaning on that
Starting point is 00:15:00 because it's the people who have not seen a DC movie or the people in their 40s and 50s who lined around the block in 1989 when that movie came out and they said he's back again after not being around since 1992, and now he's coming back. So they're leaning on that as they should. Yeah. All the marketing has been pivoted to Keaton.
Starting point is 00:15:17 That's why it's Batman Flashpoint. Yeah, it is. Go ahead, Box. You're going to say? No. No, we're not going to say. No, I was just remembering talking to your wife when I was moving, leaving the studio, and I don't remember the specifics of the conversation,
Starting point is 00:15:29 but it's something you had just seen the flash, and I was asking you questions about, and even your wife was like, what do you guys talking about? She sent no clue. What are you even talking about? No clue. I mean, again, if you're in the space itself, it's inevitable. If you check up on movie news, if you're looking at shows like this, then you're going to know about it.
Starting point is 00:15:46 But if you're just a casual fan, oh, that movie looks good. You have no clue, A, who Ezra Miller is, or B, what the hell they've done. I have no idea if this affects anything, probably less than I'm thinking that it affects. But I am one of the few people that I know that watched the Flash TV show all the way to its completion, which I don't know if you guys know was this month. Nine seasons of The Flash finished this month. Nine seasons. I watched every single episode.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So people like Grant and they don't want to replace. It was the worst final season of any show. show I have seen. Ever? Maybe ever. Wow. The final season was unbearable. This is a show that I used to absolutely love. It was unbearable. I feel flash fatigue right now. I do love Grant, but like I think that that show at the Aeroverse,
Starting point is 00:16:32 we've bitten with Barry Allen for nine years. If you love the Flash, you had that for nine years every single week. So also, I think it is different than some of the other big superheroes who like you don't get them as often. Here's another element to throw both you guys away when it comes to Marvel could be the blame for this as well. Because I've never succumbed to the theory of like people, clearly DC fans are DC fans and Marvel fans, the hardcore fans, they exist. We know that.
Starting point is 00:17:04 But again, talking about the casual movie fan, which brings in the dollars, right, they want to see a good movie. So I was always under the impression. I always agreed with it when people said it. a good comic book movie helps the business in general, and it scratches the back of the next good comic book movie because people want to see good movies in general, good writing, good acting, all of that. The last few Marvel movies have been, in my opinion, a bit of a letdown,
Starting point is 00:17:29 and some of the stuff they've been doing on TV-wise has been a little bit of a let-down, and I think people have been a little bit Marvel fatigued in general. Could that bleed over to the Flash not doing that well? It certainly could, and I don't think it's necessarily superhero fatigue, but it is mediocrity. of I don't want to go spend all this money because it's expensive at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:17:47 to go to a movie. Really. Yeah, it is. Especially for a family. If you have a family and you're getting snacks for everybody and you're not going to smuggle shit in like I do, like it's going to cost a lot of money. So there's that factor. And yeah, we've had these movies that have been really, really subpar lately.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I mean, Ant Man, in my personal opinion, was kind of just woof. I thought it was excellent. It's funny, but it's so funny though because Mark Riley, who I thought was going to love the Ant Man. He's Gold of Richard. fever energy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I love it. And he hated it. That's wild. He hated it. And it's because, and I, when I saw it, I felt, I like science fiction, right? So, like a different type of, in the way that it felt in a different way. I thought that the end was chaotic and should have been completely different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:27 But I said exactly that. I said, some people are going to come out at this going, wow, this is really fun. But then other people are going to really think this movie is. Oh, I love that movie. It's crazy. Yeah. It's also subjective, right? It's right.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Yeah. Of course. Are you a big Rick and Morty fan? No. Okay. Because I feel like there's a crossover with that, too. I don't love Virgo Marty as much, which I know is blasphemous to people.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, I fell off that show. It's like I fell off the flash. It's good. It's good, but I don't. Yeah, but it is, there's so many, there's so many things that go into it. And then getting into really the meat of this story is that
Starting point is 00:18:59 then you get across the Spider-Verse, which is coming off an Oscar-winning animated first movie that people were like, oh, okay, an animated movie produced by Lord Miller, okay, that could be interesting. and it was just mind-blowing, right? It was so good, and they handled the multiverse in a much better way than I think Marvel has done
Starting point is 00:19:19 so far, Mover Studios has done. It's still so confusing. But Marvel and Marvel Studios? Disney Marvel, Sony Marvel, who has the Marvel, even in the beginning of it, even some of the references throughout, it's still confusing. Yeah, well, the second,
Starting point is 00:19:35 the across the Spider-Vist, to me, again, no spoilers to those who haven't had an opportunity yet, I thought it was a really solid movie. Did you like it? Oh my God. You loved it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:43 You were out of there so fast that I was like worried that you didn't like it because usually when you like something you hang back for a second, but you were gone. I had to get back to it was a long movie. It's a two hour and 30 minute movie. It's long. It doesn't feel long. Doesn't feel long. But it's a long movie.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And I wanted to film my thing and then I wanted to get the hell out of there and I wanted to go home. Plus the fact that I realized last night how old I am because I'm sitting in that movie theater for two and a half hours and I'm walking out. Oh my God. You? Yeah. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:20:10 He's walking down the stairs and I said, are you okay? It's like Mr. Limpie McGee. It was Nancy Kerrigan getting hit in the leg by the Tanya Harding bodyguard. A girl the other day that I was out with had new idea who Nancy Kerrigan was talking about feeling old. I was like, you don't know. And I explained the story and she was like, I've never even heard of that story. And I was like, oh my God. Yeah, you were limping like crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:34 She said, what happened? And I was like, I was sitting. That's what happened. It was sitting. One thing, this isn't a spoiler, but I do think it's relevant for the people. the note, no mid-credit, no post-credit. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I appreciate that. So, GTF. I was right to get the hell out of there.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I was like, where are you going? And you was like, just tell me later. And then there was no telling me later. I didn't think that there was from the way that they set it up. But everybody sat their ass in the seat the entire time. But this is what I will say about the movie itself. I think that it is a, it's a very good movie. It's, it makes you want another one for sure. Do you think that? Very good? Yeah, it's really good. You don't think it's great. I want to see it again, but I'd venture on great. Adventure right. Yeah, I think as far as a movie goes, storytelling animation, the music is fantastic. You know what the first one focuses on Miles' story, but it also really has that team element? This focuses on Gwen for sure, but it focuses on Miles. I think it's Miles story more so than it's part of that team and finding purpose and finding all that, which I think is great. I don't think it's as funny as the first one. The first one is, there's some funny moments in it, for sure, and there's jokes, but the first one is,
Starting point is 00:21:39 way funnier. I was laughing by myself. So clearly most people agreed with you. I was like, ha ha, ha, there's some funny moments. There's some funny moments, but it's just like the first one with Spider-Ham and Spider-Noir, like, boom, bum, bump. You're right. You're right. I think it's 10 out of 10, though.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Okay. Is this one as dark? As everyone keeps saying is very dark? I always say it's as dark as the most recent guardians. Yeah. It's a comparatively. Yeah, yeah. It's got that, yeah, there's there's a lot to what I liked about it
Starting point is 00:22:11 what I loved about it I should say is that good writing good character development emotionally chalk bucks with character yeah it was does that mean we should pay our writers
Starting point is 00:22:23 in a way it's so interesting it's like there's something going on with that I know can I ask too are the various spider people in this
Starting point is 00:22:31 because it's supposed to be like this one has so many spider people it's got all the spider people is it mostly just there for the sake of cameos like, oh my gosh, bombastic bag man, that's neat. Oh, spider cat, yay.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Or are they major players throughout as well? Yeah, mixture of both. There's a few of what you just said, and then there's a few, like, that are real consistent. Okay. Yes, there's a mixture of both. Well, I don't want to ruin anything. Oh. I don't want to ruin it.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I don't spoil anything yet. Okay. Yeah. But there's a mixture, there's a mixture of both, and I think that what it does also is that there's, what I'll say about, even the cameos, there's a reason why. Okay. It's not just like, oh, like you said. It's not just like a wink at the camera. comic book fans. I mean, it is, but it's also like, yeah, but see how we did that there?
Starting point is 00:23:13 Okay. It made sense to the story as why, but it's still like, hey, take this. One cameo that I don't understand. Okay, you guys both talk about the spoiler later. Yeah, when I saw the cameo, I was like, that must be relevant to something that I'm missing. I wanted coin next to me. I wanted to have coin next to me. I talked to Hector about the movie all day today for Only Stupid Answers, and he was like, and then this thing, and then this thing, And I was like, there's a lot of, like,
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Starting point is 00:27:28 that i lost my virginity too he used to always say that yeah i was that an instant no sexy i was that an instant regret after he said that no oh okay you like that oh my god i used to think it was the hottest thing you're like a good baseball car in his phone i was saved as roxy is mint and i just like i thought that he was like this older guy next door and I thought that that was like that was like, oh my God, I thought him calling me Mint was like the sexiest things I ever heard in my life. Well then no better
Starting point is 00:27:59 transition to this. Let's tell about that date. Yeah. That one? It was a long time ago. No, this new one. The new one. That you thought went on. Yeah, it was a terrible. Oh, my God. It was like 10 dates ago, Christian. I have been 10 days. Christian and Chris, Chris and Christian. That's right. Just say K with a Chris. K with a Chris. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I've been on so many first dates this month. Again. Oh, it's sickening. Let me guess. Can I guess? I don't know. Oh. More than seven. Okay. More than seven.
Starting point is 00:28:25 More than seven. More than five. Okay. Yeah, probably around seven. I've been a lot of dates. No prospects? By the way, did Canada ever write back? No.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Dickhead. All right. All right. And I wrote him a text the other day. I didn't send it. I didn't send it. No, no. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I have literally 50 notes. You just drafted it. Yeah, yeah. I wrote it. I didn't send it. I was dating a guy for three months and he just disappeared. We talked to, had him on. We talked.
Starting point is 00:28:50 have him on the show. But we talked about, like, this was one that we, this was the progression one. This was the one that had the most prospect. He's the first guy that I've liked since my ex-boyfriend,
Starting point is 00:28:58 which was three years ago. And then it's out of nowhere. See you later. Yeah, he texted me saying, baby, I got my visa. When are we celebrating? And I wrote back when I was free
Starting point is 00:29:07 and then gone. That was it. Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah, it was fucking horrible. And somebody the other day really did,
Starting point is 00:29:14 in the comments, everybody's like, Groxy's such a bitch for this. Like, he's probably really, really dead or in pain or hurt. and she hasn't even checked on him. Whoa! Like, I called, I wrote it.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Some of the comments recently towards me have been so fucking nasty. Did I get rid of it? Yeah, you have been getting rid of them. But about men, and it's like, then you guys don't deserve to know about my eye open up for you guys. That's right.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Because you asked me to, and I think a lot of you guys are in the same boat. Dating is miserable. It's really fun and miserable. Right. It's both. So you have no prospect.
Starting point is 00:29:43 You never dated in your 30s. Early, early. You never dated in your 30s. I do. did. I'm a serial monogamous, though. I'm on marriage, too. I got married way too young and was married for a very short amount of time. And then I, like, forever, I got married at 21. Yeah. And then got separated at 22. When was your second marriage? I got married five years ago. Oh, see. Yeah. And so I dated Logan for a very long time and kept doing that. I don't know if I want to
Starting point is 00:30:09 get married again. Also, I think maybe I'm the problem. Maybe there's something wrong once people marry me. The one guy in your 30s then, though. Yeah. That's not dating. I went on a few other dates. And then I also had what he would call my accidental dates when I was still doing stand-up. Or I'd be like, oh my gosh, this guy really wants to help me with my set. And he'd be like, I'm sure he does. Go have a great coffee day. And I'd be like, he tried to fuck me in the middle of the day. After I went and got Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:30:31 People are animals. And he's like, that's what people do when they do. Starbucks, dude, anybody who wants to go to Starbucks wants to fuck. That is something I haven't learned. That's a t-shirt. You can't trust a coffee day. That is the truth. Really?
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yes. Is everybody hyped up on coffee? There's something about like, hey, you want to grab Starbucks? So it's a new Netflix and chill? Jill, totally. I'm like, I know what you're on. I'm on to you. I just like, I don't want to do that much for a $5
Starting point is 00:30:54 beverage. Right. I know. I know. But that's all they have. What about a latte? I mean, not even that.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Only hand stuff, all right? We're going to keep a very junior high. That's right. Don't get me started on what we can do with the egg muffins. All right. So that guy, he like lives in the woods. I don't know. I thought it would, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:13 What? He lives in the fucking woods. This is a new rich people thing. Do you have to like howl? to get him to come find you? The rich people are the worst daters. Oh. The rich, you figure out really quick.
Starting point is 00:31:24 He's rich and lives in the woods? No, yeah, you figure it out so fast. Like, you're on a date with somebody and just they'll say one sentence. And by that one sentence, you'll know, like, oh, no, this person has, like, fuck you money. And that's never a good time when you're dating. Because it's just like... So he chose to live in the woods and build a cabin out there like that in or something. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:41 He's living in the fucking woods. But he was... He's from back east, so I was like, I could still probably fuck with him. Like, let's see, person. personality was. We go on a seven-hour date. He takes me to stop A, B, C, D. He's like, pulled out all the stops. He's trying to show you the goods. Yeah, kept telling me, like, I really wanted to impress you. We were talking for weeks. And then, um... This is the Ezra Miller conversation person. Yeah. The next day, what happens? He texts me. Follows up. Great. Follows up. Starbucks. Nope. Follows up the next day. Great. The next day. He's rich. He's messaging me, but no...
Starting point is 00:32:16 Nothing. No asking for a second date. So, he's not. I was like, what is happening? It's finally after a week, I said something like, like something along the lines of when can we see each other again or something. Right. And he was like very busy. Like friends are in town, sends me a picture of said friends in town. I was like, great.
Starting point is 00:32:36 No problem. Let me know. Nothing. Never again. Ooh. Yeah. And it's gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I think, I mean, look, I'm going to tell you the same thing I told Steph a few a few months ago or I guess. months and months ago now and it's easier said than done in cliche but you're just picking the wrong assholes you really are you're attracted to the wrong people that's the problem how is that possible Christian I'm dating everybody
Starting point is 00:32:59 I'm literally dating everyone how are you meeting people is it everybody everyone wants to set me up and I say yeah I literally will be set up with anybody because might as well try it apps on them um circling back trying like friends of friends
Starting point is 00:33:16 friends of people who aren't or friends of friends of friends like legitimately one of the guys that I was just seeing we went on four dates and then he messaged me hey when are you free this when I was shooting
Starting point is 00:33:32 crust I was like I'm free this time this time and he was like great let's do it I reached out to him during at that time gone nothing and then I messaged him again he was liking every single one of my Instagram things I messaged him again.
Starting point is 00:33:47 He's like, really good to hear from you. Nothing. Let me ask you a question. This isn't for the joke. This is for like, for real. Am I doing something wrong? No. Oh.
Starting point is 00:33:55 If you were attracted to women, do you think it would be easier? I am attracted to women. It's not easier. No. Have you gone in a taste with women? Yes. When did that happen? That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:06 When did that happen? No. I wanted to know. Because you talked to you about this stuff. You know your head set fell off. You're going to talk again. But wait. But I've never.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I know. I know you for 10 years. You never mentioned this once. I've seen women before. I don't usually see women. But at this point, why not? They have the exact opposite problem. No, I definitely, if somebody sets me up with a woman, I'll definitely go on a date.
Starting point is 00:34:29 But I have my dating app set to men only for a couple of different reasons. Number one, this is a vast generalization. But as you know, I, like, move very slow. I'm, like, fucking petrified of this. And really, it's scary and hard. And women move really fast. Like, especially queer women. Breast hacks.
Starting point is 00:34:50 They just move really fucking fast. And I need, like, months before I, months before I sleep with somebody, months before I can, like, feel comfortable talking to somebody. I want to only see somebody once a week at first. And that has, I've never found a woman that that worked with ever. Yeah. And also because, and this is, like, the, I guess would be the privilege of being attracted to men. it's more challenging to find a woman. It's a more challenging lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Let me ask you something, Chris, because I want to know if you do the same thing that I do when I hear these stories. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm sure. It's a fucking nightmare. It's a nightmare. This is kind of serious.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Logan had a medical scare earlier this month. And so we had to go to the emergency. Is it? Yeah, that's my husband. And so while we were in the emergency room, I was just like, I cannot date. I need you to understand that I can't, I don't want people to know my weird shit. I don't want to explain myself again.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I don't want anyone to know all my fucking piccadilloes. I can't do this. And you're just like, this is not the time or place. All my weird, weird, like, little preferences and things. Is it a real word? Yeah. Carry on. This is great.
Starting point is 00:36:07 But yeah, it makes me panic. And I don't have a lot of single friends still here because I had a whole bunch of friends who just, like, moved. I don't have a single, single friend. Not one. Back to Texas? Yeah, back to Texas or like to Chicago and stuff. Especially after the pandemic where they're like, I don't need to fucking live here. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I know. It's just crazy, man. It's like any time I get into like an argument with my wife. I'm so, it's just so happy and lucky. It's just so hard to be single. You'll tell you the same thing. Marriage ain't no easy ride. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:36:34 At all. Take it 10 out of 10 times over this. It's a nightmare. Take two kids with that. Yeah, but you're in love with somebody and you have kids. I do. I would just die to be in that position. Die.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah. I mean, look, it's another chapter in the Roxy Saga. There's no doubt about it. But show the love guys. And again, as you guys know, you will be thrown out of this store if there's not, if there's not at least, look, you can have conversations. You can have. But don't be a twat.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Because then I just won't tell you. Yeah. Right. You tell me. Oh, yeah, I'll tell you. Yeah, but not them. And now I'll tell Chris. I want to stay with the, with the Ezra Miller stuff because there's another conversation here.
Starting point is 00:37:14 You do? Yeah, listen to me. What do you want to talk about? I'm going to tell you in a minute. Oh. Okay. So the Flash filmmakers address Ezra Miller's behavior. We have a lot of empathy for people who need help.
Starting point is 00:37:23 That's the quote. This is, but this is, what, what happened? What I said? It's the most backhanded quote. We have a lot of empathy for people who fucking need help. But let's, let's, let's read it first. Unbelievable. Let's read it.
Starting point is 00:37:38 We're embracing that. Hold on. Relax. Wait a minute. All right. So the Flash director, Andy Mooshietti, recently made it clear that if if the movie does get a sequel, he would want Ezra Miller to reprise the role of Barry Allen,
Starting point is 00:37:51 that might not be his call, and the filmmaker and his sister, producer, Barbara Muscietti, have now more directly addressed the allegations facing their troubled start. As reports of Miller's behavior grew increasingly more serious, there were a lot of speculation that Warner Brothers may take action by shelving the project, but as time passed and no statement was released, it became more and more unlikely. When asked if there was ever legitimate possibility, of the movie being canceled.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Barbara says, not at all. No, that was never real. Andy then revealed that they are still in touch with Miller, who uses they, them pronouns, and are in full support of their recovery efforts. Mushieri goes on to say,
Starting point is 00:38:28 we have a lot of empathy in general for people who need help, and especially in mental health issues. That's why they are taking the necessary steps to deal with their recovery, and we support them in that. And this is the, I guess, comic movie actually ends this
Starting point is 00:38:41 with the, essentially the conversation that we were just having here. We're not sure how much general audiences know or care about Miller's actions, but we might find out when the flash releases a couple of weeks from now with the estimates not being particularly positive. Okay, so the one thing I will say this to, you can address whether or not you think these comments are backhanded or whatnot. What I will say is good on them at least addressing it.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah. Because no one's addressed at this entire time. One of the brothers had not one. No one has said anything and even acknowledged it, maybe because of the exact reason we were talking about before, they want to bring attention to it. And maybe I'm not saying necessarily, maybe they were, when it comes to marketing, when it comes to marketing and not bringing well-awareness to the casual fan,
Starting point is 00:39:25 maybe their approach was right in what they want to do. I'm not saying morally, I'm saying for what they wanted to do as far as financially and not bringing it out there to other people. Again, we know about it, but maybe if they kept addressing it and then it gets more into the casual news cycle, how do you feel about it, Chris? I mean, that could make sense. And I keep coming back to my bubble because I'm like, my friends aren't all in the entertainment. Yes, they are.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Yes, they are. Because even my friends who are like in insurance or other things, it's for movie sets. So I'm taking that for granted. But it just felt so weird the whole time that this was happening. Because we had the Johnny Dad Bamber Herd situation happening to at Warner Brothers. And that seemed to get dealt with in a very different way than this. And I understand. And I also have empathy for people of mental health issues.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Who doesn't? I think you're kind of a monster if you don't. That being said, I got a bunch of shit for this on the internet because I said, this has been a lot of piece of shit behavior though, too. They're not too congruent things. You can have mental health issues and not strangle people or hit people with chairs or do other things like that. And obviously, these are things that can exacerbate something else, but the lack of accountability has been very, very weird and off-putting the whole time,
Starting point is 00:40:33 just because it does feel like, why aren't we treating everyone the same way? If there's any allegation or any issue, why aren't those things being addressed? Understand your average movie go, or maybe he doesn't know about that. but it's just made me feel icky in my tum-tum the whole time. But those who do should have the conversation, right? I'm so with you. I think that this has been extremely detrimental to people with mental health issues. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Because the thing is, a lot of people have mental health issues, a lot of people that we know have mental health issues, a lot of people we love have mental health issues. Ezra Miller has been accused of grooming two 12-year-old girls and that he, that they were accused of giving drugs of sexually assaulting. But accused. Accused. If these things are true. They've also been charged with burglary and were on trial for 26 years in prison.
Starting point is 00:41:25 There's two accusations on footage of assault throwing a chair at a woman's head and taking three of assault, sorry, a chair at a woman's head, dart at the bar with a dart to the wall and choke slamming that woman to the ground. So those are things we've seen on camera. The grooming are accusations. We don't know if those, that's alleged. But these are things that when you say a sentence like, I have empathy for people with mental health problems.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Yeah, no shit, anybody who combats that's an ass. But I think that these are two separate things. Do the mental health issues make the physical violence worse? Clearly that's the statement that they're making and it is possible. And I'm not saying that those two things are not correlated. But also, has Ezra Miller now gone through extensive three years of rehabilitation? No, this just happened. Make no mistake about this as well, too.
Starting point is 00:42:27 And I think everybody knows this in general. If this movie, they would have tested this movie and would have had the same kind of results and reaction that Batgirl did when they saw it. Ezra Miller would have been fired a long time ago. Yeah, for sure. money, you know? And it's about the product. As we said, because of money. 100%. This is a really good
Starting point is 00:42:45 movie. Andy Muscietti is someone that they are, I don't want to lack of lack of the word, grooming to be the next director inside of D.C. He's going to be doing Brave and the Bold. It looks like anyway. So his statement as he's saying, and I think, I
Starting point is 00:43:01 want to give Slack to Andy Muscietti to where he is... Absolutely. No qualms of him. Yeah, because he's not the representative for Warner Brothers. He's just trying to clearly say, And remember, this is also someone that Andy Mochetti, who he worked with in this movie, who he cares about Ezra Miller, right? And he's also still at the end of the day selling a product too. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And no problem with the way that he said, it struck me as funny. Yeah. I have a lot of empathy for people who need help. Right. Who doesn't? I hope so, Andy. Unfortunately, unfortunately, though, they're allowed to do. Totally.
Starting point is 00:43:31 If you go on Twitter, you can see that. I was going to say the comment section. Good, talented. I'm glad that he said something. This has nothing to do with him. it just as you read it it just hit me funny like it would a way to phrase that well what's more funny about it I think is the fact
Starting point is 00:43:44 that he has to say it that way yeah yeah it's more funny in the fact because that's where we're at in 2020 I appreciate that he's saying it because I I like Andy Mochetti a lot I think he's a very talented director I like every interview that he's given and I think that he's very proud of this movie as he should be and I think that's one of the reasons I won't say what the spoiler is but he's given away spoilers and interviews now too because I think now they're getting to a
Starting point is 00:44:03 place when you're tracking it's 70 million you're going well what about this do you want to see it because of this and then you start to wonder, is this going to be because of Ezra Miller? Is this going to because of the DC using kind of in shambles that it's tracking for? Or is it because of the Marvel, you know, and as you said, I think, brilliantly before,
Starting point is 00:44:20 is it the mediocrity. People are tired of it. You know, it's like, it's, that's, that's, that's, that's mediocrity fatigue. And I think that that is all the obstacles that this guy's facing right now. Like, Guardians had the, the benefit of having too solid movie being part of the old regime that people wanted to see how it's going to close out. So it did, and it still didn't make a billion dollars. It still did
Starting point is 00:44:37 really well. I mean, I hate that that's the metric now. It's a billion dollars or it's a failure. That's bullshit. It's not. But either way, I don't know. I think, what do you, do you think that this, let's say hypothetically, this is a question for both you guys, if hypothetically this movie costs with marketing, let's say $330 million,
Starting point is 00:44:55 which is somewhere in the ballpark, I would say. I think it's more than that, but yeah. Is it something in the ballpark? We'll say, we'll say 330. Does this movie break even, make a profit, or is it a failure? the same way that Shazam and Black Adam work. Chris, we'll start with you. I'm leaning towards failure,
Starting point is 00:45:12 but I also know that's my own bias of just, eh, about this movie. I think it has the potential to break-even, though. I don't see it making money. I cannot not see this making money. I think it's absolutely going to make a profit. There's no way it doesn't make a profit. Even tracking a 70-mill?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Yeah, I think that this is going to make a profit because, from what I hear from everybody, it's super fucking good. Word them out. Yeah, I just think people are going to, if you hear a movie is super, rough and good, you're going to go see the movie. I think it makes a profit. I do think it makes a profit, but I think that it makes a profit, not in a way that DC's like, oh, we need to rush a second one into play. I think that this, and I don't think Aquaman's going to wind up doing as well as they wanted to either. I think this is the, if it doesn't make a massive profit, rather, I think this is going to be definitely the end of the old regime, and then it's just going to be, we, there was a reason why James Gunn said, we're leaving the door open for all possibilities, because that, that's, allows you to say, yeah, it's open.
Starting point is 00:46:09 There's nobody home. But now you don't have to cross that threshold. That's right. I also, I don't think, this is really what comes down to. I don't think this movie can make enough money for Ezra Miller to return, despite what Andy Muscietti's debt says. This is the only person who can play The Flash. That is absolutely not true.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I say this as an actor knowing I am fully replaceable, and I have been. And that's fine, honestly, at the end of the day. Other people can step into these roles. We've seen it constantly with superheroes in particular. That's right. Andy Muschetti is going to be pretty busy in the next couple of years because I think what this has done,
Starting point is 00:46:42 I think he is the one, let's say, hypothetically, this movie doesn't break even, barely breaks even, breaks even, and that's the end of it. There's no world when Andy Muschetti does not come out on top, even if it bombs.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah. He comes out on top. Because from what James Gunn is saying about him, what people who have seen the movie, like this is, if it doesn't do well, it has nothing to do with Andy Mochetti because he directed the hell out of this movie. and he does a great job emotionally,
Starting point is 00:47:08 character-driven, action, like everything you want from a director in this genre. Like, I think this is one of the better comic book movies made in the last couple of years. I'll tell you that, for sure. Not the hyperbole of the best of all time. I think, again, I think that's silly. But it's one of the better ones,
Starting point is 00:47:25 and it might be the best CEU movie. It might be. I'm a big man of steel person. I don't know where you... I know you hate it, but you don't like you. Yeah, there's a lot of people who aren't. I'm a Wonder Woman, Stan. I know you don't like the third act.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I know. Yeah, it's just the third act. The movie itself, I thought it was great. I get it. But this movie to me, it might be... And I was the suicide squad. I love the suicide squad. Do you like Spider-Verse?
Starting point is 00:47:47 If you could only see Flash or Spider-Verse across again, which would you see? I asked that so strangely. I know what you mean, though. If I only have an opportunity to see one of the two. In out, up, down, gross. And this has nothing to do with the quality of the movie, but I think I would take the flash.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Because, you know, I had a... There's nothing to do with the quality of the movie? No. because I called him because I loved I thought across the Spider-Verse was amazing that there was a really really good movie I just think that as the two of them I think I'm part of that audience we talked about before like I really wanted to see Keaton back and I was so glad that we did and I think he's great in the movie and then I went to see Fast X in the theater and they showed the trailers and one of the
Starting point is 00:48:24 trailers that I saw was um was a flash and I was watching it back going I think I told you this I was watching his back going holy shit I want to see this movie again like just brought me back to like the good trailer then it's it was just because i had seen it before and i remember thinking when i was seeing in cinema con going this did your husband like the movie he thought it was good not great right he he kept acting it out for me over the course of cinema con we'd be like okay so then the second act this happens oh so you know everything that oh yeah oh okay you didn't give a shit oh okay so he can just go me through the entire thing with me i don't care but he feels like it kind of fell apart in the third act um he didn't like the the reveal
Starting point is 00:49:02 the twist. Yeah, I can see this coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, relax. You guys were doing that to me the other day, too. It didn't happen this time. All right. So we got some TV stuff to talk about in just a second.
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Starting point is 00:53:49 We'll start with this one. Look at that. I don't feel like you have checked it on me enough this week. Why? After what happened? Oh, yeah. Right. A lot of withdrawals.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I just want to, okay. So the theme of this week is, every show I've ever loved is coming to an end. And all of them had their series finale this week. Four of my favorite shows on TV had their series finale this week, the biggest one being Succession. Okay, could this show have stuck the landing anymore? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:54:20 They just did such an excellent job with it. I had all of my theories. This is going to be a spoiler-free segment because I know that I'm talking about finallies and people are playing catch-up. I had all my theories going into this I was absolutely wrong about every single one of them I've never been more excited to be so wrong about something
Starting point is 00:54:35 but they were true to their characters and true to the sentiment and what the show set out to do and say and it also proved to me that the creators understand that they have written a show about evil people that you're not supposed to like they didn't they weren't like but actually we feel bad for these people at the end
Starting point is 00:54:55 no it was like stick it to the man I don't tell me No, I'm not telling you anything I'm just saying they understand that these people are cruel and evil and are going to do whatever it takes It was amazing Such a great finale
Starting point is 00:55:09 The best finale I have seen Of any show in maybe five years Was Marvelous Mrs. Maisel I cannot believe This series finale I was so grateful What they did with this
Starting point is 00:55:24 I've loved the show It's definitely had ups and downs it has gone through some episodes where you're like, all right, that wasn't even, that wasn't that funny, it was okay, and then it's gotten through some of the best episodes of TV. So going into the finale, I was like, I don't know, it's also a comedy. Having a perfect finale for a comedy is very hard,
Starting point is 00:55:42 as we saw with Seinfeld being super controversial in this finale. I didn't particularly like it. How I met your mother not having a great finale. A lot of these shows, it's just like, what are you going to do in a finale? But Marvelous Mrs. Maisel was like the most, poignant comedy finale I've ever seen. I was bawling
Starting point is 00:56:00 my eyes out watching this. For anybody who's ever wanted to make it, it just touches upon that thing, which is every relationship you have, every person that you has watched you try to get to this point. I can't recommend this show enough
Starting point is 00:56:16 now that I saw how they ended it. And Rachel Brosnahan deserves to win the Emmy this year for this performance. She's won before. She was just like, She brought the house down. It was so good. This is a season finale.
Starting point is 00:56:30 The season finale of Yellow Jackets aired this last week. For those of those who guys who hadn't watched season two, I definitely think it is really worth your time. Is it as strong as season one? Maybe not because we already knew the premise, but it was still excellent, and they hit us with a huge bang in the final episode. If you're a horror fan,
Starting point is 00:56:49 if you like those, is it supernatural, is it not supernatural kind of shows? And if you have Showtime, and or paramount because it does that one two thing. This show is really, really good. Excellent season for Juliette Lewis. Excellent season for Melanie Linsky. Christina Ricci, just so many really talented people on the show.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And the younger versions of all of them are amazing, too. They did a great job with the finale. Curious to get Christian's thoughts on this as well, but the Barry series finale was, as I saw on social media, a little bit controversial. people didn't love this final season. It did go from being a comedy to being a straight up drama. And the season finale was very, I will put it this way, finite for a lot of different reasons.
Starting point is 00:57:38 It worked for me. I thought that they did. They kind of made the only choices I felt like they had left to make. And I think that it wrapped out the story. One of the questions I asked myself for a finale is like, what did this show want me to feel or think? What was the takeaway of this? I don't think that this show has much of a takeaway other than like you are what you do. So own your actions.
Starting point is 00:58:04 But it was very well done. I don't think that this is going to be a show that people come back and revisit very often. But for what it was, I was happy with the finale. Christian, how did you feel about it? Well, I didn't see the finale itself. I watched season one. Okay. And then I started to watch a little season two.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And then everybody talked about this one particular episode that, happens in season two. And I can't remember who told me, but it's like, it's one of the best episodes you're ever going to see on television. And I watched this. This is ridiculous. Somebody jumping on the roof and they're chasing some kid or something or whatever. I don't know what it was, but it was something.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I'm like, is it super natural now? What the hell is this? I'm like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like this show so much for what they did in the first season I thought was phenomenal. Really good. And funny. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah. And then I was. Oh, you used to watch too? I'm two episodes behind. Oh, you're too. Oh, okay. And I'm one of the people who's like, what is this season? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yeah, so I've never had an opportunity to... Yeah, I'm curious what you think about a finale when you watch it then. I got to know, because it's interesting. Yeah, yeah. But so I eventually I'd like to... I love Bill Hader, so I'd like to revisit it. I don't think you're ever going to revisit. I don't think you're ever going to binge it, and I do think you're going to finish it,
Starting point is 00:59:11 and I think you're probably... It's very dismissive. It's because I, here's why I would think you would... Because I've proven you that this is what I do? No. Oh. Because if I sat here and said, this last season was so good
Starting point is 00:59:23 you have to get to it, then you would. But this last season was really mixed. So it's not to be so it's not something that you're right. What I'll tell you. So what you're chasing, you know? Before we get you back to your picks, I'll say this. So shrinking is a show that I have.
Starting point is 00:59:36 So have you watched it. It's the best. It's the best. It's one of my favorite shows in the last like couple years. And I binged it as I said, I avoided COVID for three years. I finally got it. Binged it. Congratulations. Thank you. Bing shrinking while I did and loved it. I tried to get my wife. to watch it. She would watch it. She watched the first episode with me.
Starting point is 00:59:53 She would love the show. Wait, this is a happy ending in this story. So the first episode, she's like, eh, and then I said, after I watched it, I'm like, you have to watch this with me. It's so good. And then so she watched it, she said, I don't, I'm just not into it. I was like, so we had a barbecue on Monday, and our neighbors came over, and they start talking about shrinking. And I said, I'm telling you, listen, honey, come over and listen to this. And they all, And we said that we all, the three of us kind of went, boom, boom, back, back. No, I'm not going to be able to convince her, but neighbors can, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:24 And so the neighbors are like, hey, you should give it a shot because you got to build past like episode three and four. And so today, when I came in, because she was taking, she dropped the kids out of school, she was taking her way, and she was like episode six. So she's already kind of binging through it. That's not what I'm thinking. What?
Starting point is 01:00:39 What are you thinking? You did a barbecue? Yeah, it was only for the kids. It wasn't a big barbecue with a bunch of friends. Keep telling me you're going to have barbecue. I know. I'm going to be invited you had barbecue. I wasn't invited.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Now, you wouldn't. You would be playing Cornhole with 11-year-olds. As opposed to sitting by myself. Bad dates. Bad dates. All right, let's get the last one. Hold on a second. There's one more, of course.
Starting point is 01:01:00 And speaking in another show, I can't get my wife to watch. You have not seen the Ted Lassau finale or you have. Okay. And you liked it? I thought it was a good finale. I think it was a good season finale, though. It was a good season finale. They have maintained the fact that it was a series finale,
Starting point is 01:01:14 which to me it was not. Yeah. I disagree. They say it's a series finale. and I disagree. They, this, of all the finalees that I watched this week, this was my least favorite, which is such a bummer, because I love this show so much. And the finale was not bad. But the one thing that I've wanted for the entire series they didn't do, and, and I don't get why they made that choice.
Starting point is 01:01:38 I honestly feel like Jason Siddakas's opinion on love and relationships has influenced this show too much. Oh, but everything he was going over with his divorce and stuff? Kind of, like. Which is certainly possible. Which is totally fair. And like, I get, you're telling the story you want to tell, and you are allowed to do that in the most selfish, least artistically graceful way I could say this.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I wanted them to tell the story. I wanted them to tell it. And they didn't do that. And this is what people have been, they've been tweeting on him and stuff about this? I don't know. I haven't seen that. Who was telling me about it?
Starting point is 01:02:11 Someone said they were tweeting. Oh, it was Mike Kalanowski said that for a Ted Lassso. People were tweeting at Jason Suddeka saying it was a complete, This is a let down. No way. Your personal life get involved in this. So other people think what I think?
Starting point is 01:02:22 That's hysterical because I haven't talked to anybody. But there was one thing that I needed to happen and it didn't. And it was the way they went about it was just like, wow, what I thought you guys thought about this is not what you thought about this. Like what I was led to believe for years
Starting point is 01:02:40 we were building towards is, yeah, just as confusing to me. I don't know if you are picking up what I'm putting down. I'm going to have to talk to you. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Well, look, this is the TV picks. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Those are your picks. I appreciate it as always. And make sure that if you guys have not already been doing this throughout the episode, make sure you're commenting, whether you're talking about the flash stuff, the across the Spider-Verse, obviously the TV picks, anything we've talked about so far. But before we go, I wanted to talk about this with both our panelists here today. Let's talk about the summer movie season as we are pretty much into it now. And if your movie has already come up, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:03:17 but what was your most anticipated movie of the summer in general or coming up or that you want to see that or maybe maybe like two of them you can put two or three I don't care but let's let's see Roxie. Barbie. Barbie is number one. That's it. That's only one you want to say. All the superhero stuff. But Barbie's the one. I want to see Oppenheimer really bad too, but Barbie is by far and away.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Those are the two that you're going to choose right off the bat is Barbie and Oppenheim. Probably, yeah. Chris? I was very Spider-verse, which we've talked about. but yeah, Barbie and Oppenheimer, which I really want to do a double feature of. And they come out the same weekend. They come out the same weekend,
Starting point is 01:03:52 and I want to go see Oppenheimer and then go see Barbie. So I can have a nice pallet cleanser. I hope at least. At CinemaCon they kept talking about, oh gosh, this movie makes you cry so much. I was like, why? Which one? Barbie.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Barbie. Because Oppenheimer is that sad, too. Oppenheimer is sad as shit. If you've read American Prometheus, oh my gosh, it's a messed up story. Well, I saw the interviews with him afterwards too. He's just like, it'll change your mind set for a long time. Barbie's coming out the weekend.
Starting point is 01:04:16 after my birthday and I desperately want them to let me throw a screening with everybody has to wear all pink and it's my birthday party. So you guys both have picked... Cancer? Yep. Okay. You guys have both picked movies that it seems like
Starting point is 01:04:32 from everything everyone's talking about that you seems like you're going to be happy with... I know, you're going to say Indy. I'm sorry, man. Indy is my most anticipated. I know. And I was still... It still is. But it's like, you know, my expectations have dropped.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Yeah. And not just because, well, what do you care about critics say? It's just because I've seen a lot of these critics that I've seen
Starting point is 01:04:52 before that have talked or have been on similar, it's not like there's one particular critic who's hated everything that I've liked. It's people that have usually been on the same page with me. I know.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I already hurt for you. So that could be it. But then for the rest of the movies, I mean, Oppenheimer for sure. Barbie I'm definitely very interested in, but I think, I mean,
Starting point is 01:05:12 I've seen the fun. Do you like the trailers? Yeah, I didn't watch the last one. Oh, because, yeah, But on purpose, because I was going to react to it. It was too late.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And I said, well, I don't need to see it now because I'm going to see it. So it's for me, unless I'm doing it for the channel. Transformers? You give a shit? I'm seeing it. Yeah, I'm seeing it this on Sunday. I'm seeing Elemental tomorrow. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And then I'm seeing, or tonight, I guess. It's going for you. Yeah. Are you going? No. Oh, no. It's far. It's far.
Starting point is 01:05:42 It's far. But then elemental transformers, which, I have way more of an interest of seeing today when I knew that Stephen Cable Jr. was doing it. When I originally thought, I thought that Michael Bay was doing it, and I was like, here we go. It's like more torture watching him do this. But I like Stephen Cable Jr. a lot. Michael Bay movies are just filled with like balsa wood and sparklers. I don't understand them at this point.
Starting point is 01:06:07 It's all it is. Everything's just exploding for reasons. Slow motion. Yeah. We get it. Yeah, we get it. I don't want to ask you this again, but they're filled with what? Balsa wood and sparkler
Starting point is 01:06:17 So balsa wood was like the really shitty wood That you would get This is gonna age me In like a shop class or a tech class Balsa wood Yeah It's just like really shitty Easely breakable wood
Starting point is 01:06:26 That like really bad sets That you can like throw people through Will be made with a lot of times I love how you've gone to class In this episode Totally I gotta know what the first word was That I'm gonna go back and watch
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Starting point is 01:07:43 to meet you and learn about you a little bit more on the air as we probably same i was like shit he has kids yeah he had a wife i think he had two two kids 11 and five and a half oh those are good ages yeah i'm tired yeah yeah yeah um thank you guys appreciate you and we'll see on the flip side peace

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