The Kristian Harloff Show - The Life of an Extra, Tony Sirico is For Real & Being a Bachelor Producer | The Big Thing

Episode Date: July 21, 2021

Sopranos rewatch has been going down and discovering The Talking Sopranos podcast took Kristian down memory lane with The Riviera. The guys talk about being extras aka background players in movies and TV and Kristian recaps being a producer for The Bachelor and what he was asked to do. Follow on Twitter Kristian Harloff https://bit.ly/31PePMD Brett Sheridan https://bit.ly/2HBltii Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's Captain Morgan, original Spiced Rum at Captain Morgan USA. Loving, loving that we're able to do something. But I'm also loving that I get to every single week on Wednesdays. talk to this character. There he is. Hi. Hello. Are you in a nice mood today?

Hello, friends. Please, please tell us. We still got to get you on Sesame Street. Oh, please, please. Oh, that dream, seriously, like, when you pose that, that was like, wow, wouldn't that just that wholesome? Did you do anything about it? You just wait for us to do something. Oh, if they check the internet, so I don't think I could ever be.

Don't you think they'd have some sort of, uh... What's your representation like these days? I have a commercial agent, I think. No, I definitely have a commercial agent. And I have a, my theatrical is, you know, I mean, yeah, I get, I don't get much. But even my commercial, the tough thing is a lot of commercials have gone non-union. Being in the union is like a kiss of death. Isn't that strange?

Rewind 21 years ago, they put you in the shit spot in the first place? A lot of people go financial core, which is me, you pull out of the union and you can do non-union stuff. But if you book a union job, you have to repay your dues, which is like $2,500 now. That's fun. Yeah, when I joined SAG, it was, it was, I mean, it was expensive, but it's a lot more expensive now. Yeah. I had to borrow money from my mom. I mean, this was like, yeah, and I just booked a national.

I'm like, hey, I pay you back when the residuals come in. Yeah. Well, I did tell you how I got mine? It was working three days on the invasion movie with, I worked, because I was working at Silver, David Gambino had hooked me up with, was that, I think it was like, it was in a, glorified extra for like three days but like i did it on it was that was i had done extra work many times over before background yeah whatever yeah extra is like the it's a dirty word yeah it's a background actor yeah fucking it's an extra unbelievable people what people try to do to make themselves feel better it's a

fucking extra balls it says you know the the the word is background yes we're in the background because we elevate the background and make it better. Fuck off your extra. Yeah, your extra. You just see some of these extras? Oh, yeah. Overacting. Oh, and some of them, some of this ruin, ruin takes.

Like, sometimes really bad extras, they just, extras, ruin takes. Unbelievable. Imagine getting canceled for calling somebody an extra. Oh. No, not on my watch. That's where I draw the line. Extra.

Background. Yeah, this show now is background. Background. Background. They do background. Background. Background. They get the lowest views of our all big thing.

So anyway, this is, I don't know, 2007 or whatever it was. And I had done background work before many times over. My first year out here was a background player on almost famous. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. No, dude, I was, it was one of the, it was one of the Stillwater concerts. You can't see me. I drove that dude around, Patrick Fugate.

Did you really? I had a job. So funny. Was a ex-girlfriend got me. Sir Winkelman. Did the same? Really, really, yeah. Because he lived in Utah.

Oh, did it? Yeah, and he would fly into do stuff. And imagine being like, you're like, on the precipice. I was doing pretty good commercially and stuff, and I'm driving like, this kid comes in from Utah. He was good? Yeah. It was really good. But, but I was, so it was that, I was, do you remember the movie Point of Origin?

It was a HBO Ray Leota movie. It was, this is like 2001, 2002. This one, if you find this movie, you clearly can see me. And I'm sure somebody's going to watch it and screenshot it and send it to me. Every time I mention it, somebody does it. Or video capture, that's fine. Because you got to, but the problem is you got to buy it. You can't, I've looked for it.

And it's funny because the director definitely yelled at me. Um, because my Ray Liotas at the bar. And it's just me and him at the bar. And I'm just supposed to mouth. So whatever. Yeah. Or just point. And I wind up mounting, give me a rum and Coke.

Right. And the guy's like, you said that pretty loud. It's a line. So I did it a couple different times, whatever. And they actually voiced up me in it because I was so clear that day, but I didn't get any, I think I got a voucher for it. whatever it was. But I.

Well, they didn't want to pay you. They didn't want to pay me. That's exactly what it was. Then you're a featured extra. Right. Or no, you have lines. And then you're just,

then you're not an extra anymore. Yeah. So, but I got, whatever it was, they dubbed me. And it was like, but you see,

if you, if you watch that scene, I'm there, it's a very young me. Yeah. And I'm, and I'm ordering something. Ray Leota and Ronnie Cox,

um, come up and they start talking. I get the hell out of. That's why he yelled at me. I stayed too long. I stayed too long. When it's time for you to get out of there. Get out of there.

I was like, all right, all right. Fun rum and coke, please. That's what they jumped it over. It's very similar. It's very similar. So I had done stuff like that before. And, you know, when you are an extra background, you are cattle. Oh, you are cattle.

And they don't give a fuck about you. They don't take any of this bullshit that they say, oh, we try to treat everybody, you know, equal and everybody from the from the catering to the background we treat every bull shit ask these people what they feel about the fucking uh box off yeah dude bull shit right i felt like shit walking when i was like the the you know hero on commercial that's what they called like extra that's why they're changing their name because we called the lead guy in a commercial the fucking hero right right that's it's amazing and walking past they're they're just like no tent over the

in the sun and I'm going to my trailer like I'm sorry Can I have something to drink? They like Wash it out on a fire hose. They're like I'm hungry Half-eaten bar protein bar Slaps the guy in the side of the face and he's like Thank you so much. Hey what if we change

Your name to X? The background you think you'll give us more respect? No So Pretty good gig now though It is. I found out how much it pays these days What is it these days? It's like over 300 a day yeah wow it was like 110 back then yeah yeah and you're spending like all it's not worth

one 10 i'll tell you that 300 bucks is a good gig yeah for a day especially if you're working like a full week if you can if you could it's pretty good yeah bring and and you know you'd bring a book bring a switch or something with you yeah that's all i did at the time i was just i just remember for half the time origin i was on the phone with my girlfriend at the time yeah that's all i did i was messing around and this is before the smart phones and all actually you you could check your emails and spend a full day on the side than when it was time because I had done I had done extra work on television shows on everything

for a while and I wasn't getting I got a couple so the way it works you get vouchers and I don't know if it still works like this but back then you would get X amount of vouchers and then if you do then you could apply to get into the union unless you had like contact and you could spend like a full to get your vouchers every day and then have someone sign off on it like the producer

sign off on it which is very rare to do which is exactly what I wind up doing Like the because I was working at silver pictures and I you know David Gambino to this day He's like one of my best friends in the world and he's and I worked for him and he was um he was also I mean he was like the big brother that I never had long island guy he was just you did you met david you didn't you think you sat at the table with him maybe at my wedding oh yeah probably i mean it's been a while he worked for he worked for for robert dine junior for he was like the president of his company for a while like he's he's he's he's the boss he's a boss um and he um i was leaving you know And he was like, you sure you want to leave?

I was taking off to do more stand-up and produce a pilot. I was like, yeah. And he's like, I don't know, what can I do for you? And I was the only thing, because he was shooting, he was producing invasion. I said, the only thing I really love to do is if I could get those freaking vouchers. I need to do it because I'm going out to stand-up. I was trying to do more acting at the time. And he's like, yeah, I'll hook you up, right?

So I was, but I, you know, he's like, you got to work. I was like, of course. So I go and I'm on the set of downtown L.A. and we're doing these scenes where I don't remember what we were running around, but it was such like, it was the best experience I ever had because I remember,

I was, and I never, not once, ever bragged about, well, you know why I'm here, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.

To everybody else, I was just, but one night, or it was actually every night, but the first night was we were standing around and Gambino was on set. And I never, like, waved him down or everything to,

you know, he's walking around, and he sees me and he goes, yeah, come here. And their extras are looking around, like, what's who they call? Who's he calling? Everyone's getting excited.

And I go under, like, and I just leave with him. And I go eat with him in the, in the, you know, next to the cast and everything. And they're like, what, how'd you do that? How'd you do that? And I was like, I know, I know the guy from this. I didn't, again, didn't tell anybody what was. I didn't want people to be like, all pissed off. But like, every night I would go, like, these poor guys are, like I said,

eating a half eating protein bars. And I'm eating the meals with, with him. And I got my car. And that's how I got my card. that day, and I was, for the three days, and he was really, he hooked it up. Yeah, it was, it's a racket. And I, I only got mine because I booked a SAG commercial and they like me enough to pay, like I got whatever, um, uh, Taft Hartley.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I got Taft Hartley did it. So then I was SAG eligible until I booked another. Yeah. And that was, you know, great because I was like, oh. It doesn't remind me I got to pay my dues. I haven't paid them.

I've been paying my dues every year. I don't do shit for, for I'm not in the union. But I always wanted to make sure that I stayed it. I, because I worked. like even though it's like okay that's how you got your card you don't understand how hard I work trying to do an extra stuff before that and it was like the last it was like a last Hail Mary to where David was like yeah and then they got the executive producer the other producer to sign off on it they were really cool I can remember I can't remember the guy's name

he looked like Johnny Cash he was such a cool dude it's like like like just the main on this guy just like one of those cool you know you walk around he just knew he you could tell this guy was a producer, like old school. But anyway, that was tough. It's not, people, it's not easier to book, you know, a background job than it is to book, like, an actual gig. And there was, like, sensual kid. There's all these ones.

You got to go through, like, a full agency and stuff. And you kind of got to, you know, you'd got to know, back then, you'd have to kind of know the person running it, so they'd pull your name, you know. And it's always that guy when on set, that's an extra, that's like the professional extra. Oh, he's done it. Life. This guy knows the tricks.

He knows the back and forth. He knows what to do. He brought us on lunch. Everything. Everything. He's selling. He's got a side racket in the alley. Yeah.

And he's, but he's got a, he's got a cot. But he's, but, you know, that type of guy or girl, he just knows the system, knows where to stand to make sure that he gets his face on camera. Yeah, you know, like all the little tricks. This guy or girl has done it a million times over. That's a big one. There was a commercial that shot that had like 10 people in it, and we had all been hanging out. It was a Southwest commercial.

And we all said, listen, sight lines people, all right? So we'd all go like this and they'd go, hey, go this way a little bit. You know, we made sure none of us were getting caught out of this thing. It's a racket. Working together. It's a racket. We were all like primary players, so we didn't want to get, you know, we couldn't see your face in that shot.

But all of the extras feel like they're getting something over on the crew and the producers and the directors, and they've all seen it a million times over. But there are those extras that get, like, get away with shit. Like, you see people, like, in some of these movies that are just so bad. Like, when you really catch some of them and they're just, like, the reaction guys is a, ho! Ho!

Oh! And it's like, what are you doing? You're just supposed to be laughing, guy. I think I saw what recently were there, it's like people running out of a place and the guy's, like, up in the camera. But, like, because in a lot of people's heads, they think that they're going to get noticed. And, like, what a story will be. Yeah.

If I'm on the side next to a Leo and, you know, and I make this big moment. He's like, yeah, man, you got the goods. It's like, that's never, that is never going to happen. You know what? You're going to be lead in my next film. I never seen. The way you went, like, I never seen anybody eat a tomato like that.

I've never seen it. Man, you're good. You are good. You got to respect it You respect the racket I mean if you could If you could work it I mean it was a good gig

If you got you know But I mean still It's it's grueling It is grueling Because you're there They can keep you You know they're not gonna like let you go earlier They're gonna keep you for each scene

Yeah no We might use you later Stick around But they will But they will have to pay overtime Yeah Yeah On a lot of tough

So that's why a lot of time The extras don't give a shit But they're and there Every single time you're on There's always people trying to get those vouchers. Always trying to find a way to... Is that still...

I don't even know if that's a still thing. I don't know if that's a thing. Is it sag after now? Right. There used to be a way to get in... No, after, I think you just had to pay... It was TV, though. Yeah.

Isn't it? Just TV? And that whole merger kind of... I don't know what happened. Screwed everything up, I think. But I never had to join after or pay anything because when they merged, you know, I was already in. You wouldn't have to either.

Yeah, I was... It was, it was... When I joined it, it was... They had not merged. Oh, yeah, yeah, me too. It was 2007. So, but when you, like, if you didn't join after, oh, you joined them both or you?

It just combined it. Yeah, so that's me too. I was in SAG, then I was after. Right. But if you were working in the day, it was one of the other. You had to buy them both. Right. You'll pay for both and be in both.

And then they merged together, right. So that's all that stuff. So that was, that was a crazy. But that's, you know, that's how it is. This is a business of show. It really is. Have you, have you, have you, and I've probably. Seen heat?

Have you seen the heat? No, but I've been watching, I've been watching, as I told everybody again, with the Sopranskis, right? So this is a really cool story, actually, not as combined with the Sopranos itself because I can't imagine you started watching it. No.

So I'm in season three now, but there was a big story that had dropped recently about James Gandalfini had gotten, offered the lead role of the office after Karell left. Oh, really? And they offered them, I think it was like, I might have gotten the numbers wrong here, but they offered them like $4 million to do it.

I'm trying to think about that. And HBO paid him three not to. What? So that came out in a podcast called Talking Sopranos with Steve Charippa, who played Bacala. And Michael Imperioli, who played Christopher Maltesanti. I was planning on listening to this show anyway because of everything that I've been doing. and with re-watching it and wanting now that I re-watched it to go back. They go episode by episode and they have a lot of different guests.

It's fascinating. I love the show and I started listening to it. And it's funny because Steve Sharipa started talking about how he was before he got put into, the story of how both he and Michael Imperioly got their roles is fascinating all in itself. They go and they, because it started, the podcast started last year, right in like the heat of the pandemic. Right. So they were doing it virtual and they were, and they're going back and forth telling their stories. And Michael Imperial was still how he got it and the things that he was doing.

And then Shriba didn't come on until season two. But to hear him talk about how they got, he was going, he was talking about how he was a promoter at Riviera, right? And booking comedians and acts. Oh, well. I knew that. He booked me in 2003 when I was, it was, I can't remember the dude. It was the, it was the feature. But it was, um, it was me.

And then the guy was in Friends, the dude who was the second, and it was the Armadillo episode. I remember this very clearly walking around the Riviera Hotel talking to this dude about his role on Friends. It was the Armadillo episode, which I think, funny enough, Bonnie Somerville was in that. I didn't know Bonnie at the time. But that guy is, I feel like the guy's name was Sean.

I can't fucking remember. But anyway, and then Jimmy Walker. And I had heard horror stories about Jimmy Walker, how he was so hard to work with that he was bitter, like that he was all, very nice to me. I would, I would assume he would be. He was very nice to me. He was definitely, you know, hard-edged.

Yeah. And he was definitely like, you know, maybe not the most cheerful guy in the world. But to me, he was very nice. And I remember the last, he would sell these shirts, and I still have it somewhere, right? And he had these shirts, and I asked him at the end of the thing. I said, you know, I would love one of the shirts. He's like, you're a comedian. You want one of these?

And I was like, yeah. I would love one. I was a big fan, man. And he was actually very, like, thankfully, he just threw what happened to give to me. Yeah. And so, yeah, exactly. So, but Sharipa actually booked this guy.

I want to tell you, Steve Rodriguez was the guy's name from his Bohemian manager, who was friends with Steve. And then they sent it over to my tape, because I had just become a regular at the comedy store. I've been regular at the comedy store for about a year at that point. And I did the Riviera, and I worked to Riviera. my brothers came out to see me, my dad came out to see me, my ex-girlfriend, my friends came out to see me in Vegas, and we all, it was like a few nights.

I want to tell you it was like a full week, it felt like. It was, it was a while. I was there from at least, I feel like Wednesday to Sunday. I don't know. Steve was able to tell you, but anyway, so I actually tweeted it out to tell friends, to tell the fans that they should be listening to the show, especially if we're watching The Sopranos, because it's fascinating, how they go into it.

But he started following me. afterwards, you know, because I told him, and I said, funny facts, he booked me back in 2003. I would love to get him on this show. I would love to get him on, just to shoot the shit with the guy about sopranos in general, because both these guys, hearing the stories of what went in on that show. And his, so his story that he was telling season two was that shows you how, like, fate works, right? He was in Vegas, and he, he can't, he was, his buddy was getting married in New York. so he wouldn't have been there.

He had to, for his own dime, to audition. Like, he wouldn't, he, they weren't going to pay him to come in an audition. So he, but he flew in, and he was flying in anyway, so what the fuck. So he goes in and one thing, he said, and he wants to get the gig, you know, off of, and he says it himself inside of it. He doesn't, his buddy doesn't get married. His life is completely different. Yeah.

Isn't that crazy how little things work like that? I'm still hung up on, I want somebody to pay me not to do something. Oh, is it through enough? Please, that's all I want in life Is people to just constantly be paying me Not to do something To do is a baller though But I, so explain that

Because that's what's intriguing I didn't hear that story yet I just hear, I just From the only thing that I I'm going, I don't want to be spoiled From what they're Because I'm in season three right now And I want to go

I was talking to my buddy of mine Who listens to their show And he's like I listen to the ones On the guests that I like I'm listening to everyone Because Shrippa and Imperiali hearing them talk Like, the first three episodes I'm on are just them.

And then they transfer into, I think their first guest is the dude who played Jackie Apreel, which is he was the, how much of the show did you watch? Oh, I watched the whole thing. You watched the whole thing. So he was the one in season one where, remember the mob boss who Tony looked up for and he died of cancer? Yeah. That's Jackie Apreil. So that dude actually auditioned to play.

It was the three people that were up for it. I had known this, but I forgot in hearing them talking about it. The three people that were up for that role was this dude. I can't remember his name. Michael, I think, for Jackie April. And it was Stephen Van Zant was up for Tony. Oh, wow. Sylvia Dante wasn't even a character, but David Chase liked him so much.

He wrote him a thing. And yeah, but they talk about Pauly Walnuts. And speaking of Pauley Walnuts, Tony Serico, like, I didn't even tell you, like the, because now once you start watching, like, clips and shit like YouTube sends in all these recommendations. I sent this speaking of my buddy David Gambino and I'll

tell you exactly what the name of this video is so you guys I gotta play some of this I'm gonna play some of this um for you guys like right now um this is Tony Sirico an interview Tony Serrico played Pauline Walnuts

and um and he was by far the most authentic like wise guy that they had on that show. Like, did you know anything about him? No. Dude,

you got to hear some of this. Like, this is, this is like, like, you don't want to fuck with this, like you do not want to fuck with this, dude.

I'll play, this is, this is, for those people who had never heard it. This is, this is Tony Serrico. I'm not going to play the whole thing because it's pretty long,

but I'm going to play a little bit of a clip. This is from 1989. So this is, I think before he was, before he was even a good fellow. He was in a very small clip in Goodfellas, but this is Tony Tarrico, Pauly Walnuts, one of these days

when this fucking, anytime you want to play a clip, it buffets. I did a couple of armed robberies in my life. And I'd pay for them. I did what I had to do. Did you ever go to jail? Yeah. How many times?

A few times. Did you, uh, did you kill? Did I what? How did it? to get started, why is he here? You're asking me? Yeah. I have no idea.

You'd have to ask my brother the priest. Do you believe in God? You gotta ask me that? I would never be here if there wasn't something bigger than I saw. Fell in love with a little girl in the neighborhood. About three months after I got married, it's really hard for me to explain. I just went downhill from there.

It was an eventual divorce. And that's why my kids and me are not that close. And I wish I could have changed that somewhere along the line. I was mainly in love with this girl. I mean, I was madly in love with her. I left my wife, left my two kids for her. Don't ask me why. I used to just, I was quiet around her.

But the moment somebody would look at her, or I would think they were looking at her, or maybe even you're right, maybe I wanted to show her that I was in her defense. that I was in a defense. Mike, I gave a lot of guys' beatings for her. We were in the Sheepshead Bay one night. That's a nurse. George Clambar.

And I was inside getting cigarettes. And she was outside, ordering, whatever. And some sailor came by and was talking to her. And I freaked out. And I'm telling you, I freaked out. I went outside, and I just started whaling on them. But, I mean, I gave him a beating. I mean, I overdid it, you know.

I wasn't in my right head. I mean, it was a bad, bad time in my life. That's why I'm telling you about it. And I'm not ashamed of it. I am ashamed of it, but this helps me. When I was done, giving him that beating, I threw him over the rail into the water, into the bay. And he hit the boat.

There was a fishing boat there. He hit the boat, and I don't even know until this day what happened to this guy. I just took him. That's an interview? That's an interview dude. I thought he was, that was an audition. No, no. This is a real story.

Jesus Christ. Yeah. I'll tell you that motherfucker. And that's, that's just a little bit of it. Well, then, yeah. He's 45 years old. In that? And that clip is 45 years old.

I feel pretty good for 47. That guy lived it. He lived it. Jesus. He lived it. And like Tony's Frico is no joke. Wow. No joke.

Like, if you guys can find that interview, like, it's, it's, just as Tony Serico interview, 1989, it just popped up in my recommendations, and I watched it. It is fascinating. Like, that dude was, like, legit. They asked him a bunch of different things throughout, and it's a longer interview,

but obviously, I'm not going to play the whole thing, but isn't that crazy? Oh, yeah, I mean, I'm like, wow, this is a brilliant acting. But he took that stuff, and he brought it to the Sopranos for sure, and I'd say one of my,

I'd say one of my favorite character, other than Tony. Yeah, yeah. Just my favorite was just because as somebody is the server, if somebody did like this, do you? You lose? Yeah. Well, there's that whole episode in season one where Carmela hires her friend to cater to the business gets right now. And the friend sees Carmela go like this to one of the mates.

And then in a party, she looks over to her friend and goes, and it kisses the friend off, understandably so. played by the great Catherine Narducci, who I knew from the same management company I was working at, then introduced me to Steve, who, Steve, God, I want to say, I always forget the guy's last name, but so dumb, I was Rodriguez, I think it was Rodriguez. Spielberg. No, it's not Spielberg. I'm pretty sure it was Rodriguez. And I, and he was a manager, and I became buddies with him.

And then he, I remember he called me in and go, hey, you know, I'm friends with Steve Sharipa, and he's booking out. And at the time, you know, it was like 2003. So like Sopranos was massive. And I was like, and I was pumped to be able to go into that club. And it was a big moment for me to be able to do those. Oh, I bet. Yeah.

Were we hanging out at that time? Well, that's right around when I had, I got married. 2004 I got married. Oh, you got to see. We must have. If I came to your way. I remember the, I remember the going to Vegas thing. I don't know why I couldn't make it.

Make it. Yeah. Probably didn't have the cash. Maybe. But it was a... Oh, yeah. I mean, if it was 2000, I was probably, you know, getting ready for a wedding and saving up. Well, because Ian was there.

My buddy Ian Virgo came. Like, I think, like, a lot of my buddies from back then, like, they came in for, like, my ex-girlfriend came in for, you know, because I was, I remember being there a few nights and nobody was there. And then I remember, like, my dad and my brothers came in, this picture of the three of us that were sitting there in the crowd afterwards. Yeah, it was a great experience. And I remember crafting a bunch of new jokes that I wound up taking back to the comedy store with me.

That started to really work for me that I crafted at the Riviera from being on stage that night. And I learned it was so funny. It was such a contrast. And I would tell you the improv story in Miami with, it was like Fort Lauderdale, actually, with Jamie Kaler and Mark Franco. Maybe. Dude. You're trying to remember name. You're like, did I ever tell you yet?

You probably did. I don't know, maybe. I don't know. But so the contrast in it was that at the comedy store, you, like in the original room, you would go up and regulars would bring up other people and someone would host the night. And I did that a couple of times. And I'm by my own mission, I'm not a host when it comes to comedy.

There is a special talent involved in it. And Ken is brilliant at it. McCoug is really good at it. It's not my thing. I'm not good at it. No. And I hated when people. would say like oh they're just host you know like

no that that's a there was a special skill to being a host i will never i will i will i will you you have you really got a you got to work and you got it you've you set the tone in the beginning there sure if somebody has a big audience like they can even though they can get the crowd back if there's a bad host absolutely i'm sure and of all i mean i would and i'm not just saying that because i know i'm you know i mean like ken i didn't hang out with ken i didn't know him like but i remember him i can he i don't think i can name any other ones i mean any other ones i mean i i don't think I can name many other ones other than who's the older guy that has a radio show now. Oh, shoot.

Frazier. Frazier Smith. Yeah. Yeah. I can't even, you know, I mean, there's a couple. Yeah, but those were the ones that were back in the day for sure. But Ken, yeah, he'd like, and great to work out bits. And you would do that.

But at the comedy store, they had people doing it throughout the night. You would host the, from the open mic leading into it and regularly. So only have regulars do it. And you would lead the open mic, you would lead that you go into the next show. And I would do that a couple of times. And I enjoyed it. I didn't do it a lot because, like I said,

it wasn't my thing. But when I was offered it for Riviera, you know, to basically, you'd go up, you do 15 minutes, which is a lot of time for back then, 15 minutes. And you do it up top, and then you get to bring up the opening act. Then you bring up Jimmy Walker afterwards.

you throw it's and you set the tone for for what's going on. So I did really well when I was at the Rivier. I enjoyed it and I continued to do it. So, 2000,

was it seven? I don't remember, but Jamie Kaler had brought Mark Franco and me to Fort Lauderdale with him. And so there's a movie that Steve Byrne just did

and I think it's called the opening act, right? And there's a story that happens to this character that legit happened to me. he goes to well I'll just tell you my part of it we go and

this is a big big improv probably one of the biggest ones and it's jam packed I don't know what happens but I fucking tank as an opener I mean as a host tank like like bad yeah like my set my dad was in the crowd

like my set was off audience wasn't feeling it I knew it was bad I mean I knew it when I was up there so much so that the club owner goes to Jamie Kaler and is like this guy, I gotta bring in somebody else man. This guy's like this guy, he's not good. And Jamie's like, he's a fucking regular at the comedy store

and he's really good. I've seen, I perform with him all the time. You gotta give him, he's like, that wasn't good. And I said that I know it wasn't good. So they took me off as a host thing. He brought this guy in Forrest. I remember like being so mad at the guy. That was a fucking sweetheart of a guy.

And he's, and he came in he was super, You didn't know what the fuck was going on. He didn't know that I ate shit in front of all these people. He just knew that it was, uh, he just would come in. He was a local guy. Now I think he lives here. And he was a buddy with my friend James. But anyway, he comes in.

But the manager said, look, how about this? How about I'll give you, I'll give you guest spots throughout. He came all this way. I'll give you guest spots throughout it. He'll bring you up first and you can warm with the crowd. So you, so you, he'll, the forest will do whatever the time at the top. You can do like six, seven minutes. And then bring in, Frank.

And I was like, well, you know, in my head, I'm going, well, this is where I, this is what I do anyway. So next night, I'm fucking destroyed. And the guy's like, yeah, the manager, right? And I'm like, I told you. And he's like, he's like, you don't like hosting? I go, fucking hate hosting. And he's like, all right, all right. Well, you can, you can do the second show.

And I do the second show. And I crushed. He's like, all right, you come back tomorrow. And I got my spots back. And he let me go and I could blow the light just a little bit. So I went up to doing like eight to 10 minutes anyway. But like, dude, that was. That was soul crushing.

Oh, it was over. I thought it was over. Well, you know, the Luna people used to put me up before the host. Yeah, that was their little, their little crumbs for shooting the videos. I remember that. So you want to talk about a bullet spot. It was like, people are mingling in still and I've got a tight five before the host gets. Who's that guy?

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I do have to take a massive shit. I did a deep state impression of all the Looney Tunes characters on a show yesterday. Did you really? Yeah. Somebody said something, boy, you really went for that. I was just like it was Foghorn, Leghorn, Tweety, Edel Vester. You're just, it's that, it's, I think you and I had that same thing where it's like, you have the barometer where you're, you can talk about normal things. And then that's, you got to get out that absolute lunacy that's in there.

And then once that comes out, okay, and it resets. I saw somebody make some comment on here. It's like, I haven't checked the show out in quite a while. And Christian Harlow's pretty subdued. Is this a normal thing? I'm like, you ain't been watching shit, brother. You're telling the truth. You tell them you, you ever watch in a bit because, like, yeah, it's been, it's been fun to do this.

I'm loving, I'm loving just being able to shoot the shit again. It's, it's in person. Like, my poor wife, even right before you got in here, she's just like, with kids, people don't understand. Like, everyone's like, oh, you get, you got vaccinated. Go out and do your thing. It's like, yeah, but even these fucking breakthroughs. I don't know.

It's like 86% of these new cases, all this fucking delta variant is still a motherfucker is not getting vaccinated. I don't get it. Yeah. I don't get it. And I'm sure comments, well, I don't approve. Yeah. Get fucking vaccinated for fuck's sake.

It's like seriously. It's like, and now there's even, there's even both sides because it was getting politicized. And I fucking saw on Twitter like, Sean Hannity was fucking telling people to head this morning to get to get. to get vaccinated. Oh, yeah. Like, nobody's fucking around anymore.

At first, it was us versus them. And now when you're like, yeah, how about we sue the fucking network for giving false information? And they're like, well, actually, you know, maybe we should start being responsible here. But, and this is everything. And again. Oh, when that, the mass mandate, like, came back, I was like, are you fucking, I was just starting to get comfortable. I was, I wasn't quite there, but I was branching out. And then I just, like, it shut me down again.

They should have never fucking taken that. thing off in the first place. Yeah. Because it's like the honor system. Yeah. Fucking kidding me. Like, yeah, we got to trust people. Yeah. Even my kids are like, you know, I didn't even, they didn't even hear me do the, the,

the, um, people vaccinated or liars bit. Yeah. And they're doing the same thing when we're going, oh, look at this sign. We're going into the bull. And then yeah, he vaccinated and liars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He's, he's, he's a, they're both like, like, funny. Like, he was, he goes, yeah, but this whole crew in front of this was a what is like it? What is he? He kind of. found this group of people in front of it. He was like, yeah, I bet none of these people were vaccinated. I know.

I go, I can see what you're saying, bro. That's the problem is that you just like, it's camo hat. Well, I was watching it. What the hell was I watching? Some clip that popped up again on social media, and they were talking about this vaccination. And in general about how it's politicized and back and forth. And there was a guy, he was an analyst on Fox News for years and he got fired.

But he was on her for, I think, like 15 years. And he goes, and he's like, yeah, the misinformation that's coming out, he goes, it makes me think less of people. And I think very less of humanity in the first place. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. It's like, and everybody wants to be like optimistic and say, oh, you know, people are good. People are fucking scumbags.

No. Look at all the shit. Like every, is a reason why ratings are so good on news when the worst shit is happening. Because it's like, it's like in people to like, I don't want to hear about, oh, this is a happy story. Like everyone's, that's why they go viral. Everyone is a really happy story because, you know, it's so rare. We watched this whole thing. And it was, it was, there was that the history of the sitcom, but then it kind of blended into a different one that was talking about how news suddenly became like entertainment.

And yeah, yeah, night crawler, basically. It used to be just here's the news. But then it was who can get the dirtiest. And it was like the Menendez Brothers Times. It's all that shit. It's that because it's combining like the character of it. Because it's that same thing of, and still I still feel people feel this way.

If it's not, if you don't know the person directly, it's not real to you. It's not, it's a character. And I remember when I was working at The Bachelor, one of the reasons that I started, I don't really talked about this,

but I stopped working there because they wanted me to be a full-on producer on the field, all of this stuff. And I, so this buddy of mine who actually, William Holman, who was a guy who was on the show, I became like friends with him. We were still friends. We tweeted show at the time.

He was a really good guy. He was a really good guy. He was a funny dude and all the shit. And I, and I became buddies with him. And I enjoyed, it was called, before his Bachelor in Paradise, it was Bachelor Pad. And I worked on Bachelor Pad.

And I was on the floor for the second season. Really, like, enjoy talking to the cast. But the thing that, then they wanted me to go on for Bachelor and start traveling. And I was in the middle of trying to, I had to make a choice. It's either. And, and Sadie hadn't. been pregnant with Vivian. And so it was, and we knew we wanted to try.

So the question was, was I going to be, and I'd be traveling all over the world, doing all this stuff and dealing with the cast. And they wanted, they, straight up offered it. That's what, what we want you to do. That also meant that I had to give up doing schmose

because I couldn't work on it. And I was working in, and I was building out my channel while I was, I was doing my work, but I was building out my channel. So I had a meeting with a, a big producer there. And he was telling me about, He was assuming that I was going to take it because nobody turned it down.

That was otherwise, why would you be there? Right. So he's like, the thing you need to remember, though, is these are not people, they're characters. And I get the mindset, but in my head, I go, I can't see it that way. Yeah. Because these aren't, like, I understand when you're in posting, you're treating them like characters to maneuver them around, but when you're manipulating them to do what you want, you're not manipulating character. You're manipulating a person.

Yeah. and I didn't have to do that in Bachelorpad because it was different like they're playing a game and stuff and I was like I don't really want to do that like it's good if I'm doing the stuff that I'm doing and post and watching and putting together finding footage and bloopers and putting shit together

and saying oh that moment the editor needs that that's how I met Rachel Cushing you know and so doing all that stuff like that that was fine but after a while and I understood it completely one of the guys over there that I love this guy Jeff he called me in and he He was the guy who hired me, and he called me in after, I mean, I had been there.

I was there from 2009, like 2013 working like. It was a steady gig. That show was still, never got off the fucking air. And I worked Bachelor, Bachelorette, Bachelor Pat. And he only had a couple of days off, I mean, a couple of weeks off because I wasn't union. So like, but it was a nice gig, you know, and I was able to work on Shmows and all that. But I remember him calling me in afterwards, like, because I passed every

potential promotion that they were giving me, I said no to. And I kept keeping the same position. Everybody else was moving up. And I was like, no, because to me, it's a steady gig.

I'm doing fine. It is. I'm making money off of YouTube also, doing this stuff and building up Shmo's and starting to, as when Shmo's knows, was really moving. And we were transitioning from Toad Hop

and we were looking for a gig to where we're going next, right? So all this stuff, it was crazy how all this happened. I don't know. again, I don't even know if I've talked about this, but I wound up getting called in. I was like, this got to be your last season. And I was like thinking to myself, yeah, this kind of makes sense.

He's like, you don't, he's like, you don't want to move up. I don't know what to do. He's like, you're doing a great job. I just don't know what to do. There's other people coming in for that position. He's like, it's like, it's not like you're doing a bad job. You're doing a great job. But it's like, and he's like, do you want to.

And I worked one last season in the house, like the beginning of the season in the control room, dawn all that, knowing it was my last, my last time. And then, dude, I was on, I was on unemployment

for a little bit. And then I saw a posting for, so Amy Rose, Eisenbach was someone that I had done, like AMC movie talk with a couple of times. And I saw posting that they were looking for a new crew member at, at AMC. So I called her and I was like,

I'd like to try to do this. And she's like, you know, even with Shmo's and all that stuff too. And I was like, yeah, 100%. And she's,

She's like, well, let me talk to John. And I always give Amy Rose. Without Amy Rose, I wouldn't have gotten involved in any of that crew. And I've told her that a million times over. She was the reason I got that gig. But I met with, it was funny. You had to go through like a little bit of a, it was almost like a Game of Thrones thing. Like you had, it was Burbank, downtown Burbank.

And I went in and I talked to, I think I talked to Amy Rose and Schnep. I took to Amy Rose first, right by that Panera bread, which I don't know if it exists anymore. Then Schnepp came in. I talked to Schnepp for a bit. And then they, like, went off, did something, like, went up these stairs. And they're like, and I guess they gave my, they gave, like, they liked me. And then I walked up the stairs and I went to see Campia. And Campia was in there and we, we hit it off.

And then I got the gig, um, working AMC movie talk. So that whole shit with leaving, leaving, um, Bachelor, not having a gig. I was, I don't know what the hell I was going to do. And we had, we did have this like sponsorship of those schmows through like loot crate. Oh yeah. I remember that. Which was nuts. How long we had that sponsor.

You still had it when I started. We had it for a while. That sponsorship was paying my bills for a little bit. And then, you know, we had that little, well, paying the Shmose bills anyway. And we then, once I started at AMC, and that wasn't like a, it wasn't like a steady job. But it allowed me to get my profile up. It allowed me to do some more stuff. And then we got the gig.

So the after buzz when we were working at, um, So we weren't part of After Buzz's network. You didn't do the show back then. No. Kevin Undergaro was a guest on the Toad Hop Days with Maria Minunas. And she had so much fun on the show. The second show she ever did that, she invited us to her birthday party. It was a crazy birthday party.

Dude, like, Makuga was in the middle of the party doing a dance off against Derek Huff. And he was dancing with Julian Huff. And we were recording. We had the little shitty phones at the time of recording him. dancing with Julian Huff and Derek Huff, like, closed it. He's like, no, no taping, no taping. But Kuga's, like, dancing with Maria Minutas and going, like, that's where, like, the Wild Man Monica really started to stick.

But we had a great time, and then we started talking to Kevin, and we eventually took it. We weren't on after Buzz's network, but they let us do it from that house. And so then that started, we get sponsorships there, and that eventually turned into more spots on, on AMC, which eventually turned to Collider. And it's just crazy how it works like that. Yeah. But yeah, see. And then, you know, people like me just get invited to do Beyond the Shmels and people like,

how the fuck this guy getting caught me that's no shit about movies? Beyond the Shmoh's. Smoshna. Oh, Shmoh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was my beginning. How you got it in. How the fuck in that guy he doesn't know shit.

My dick knows more about movies. You know what so weird about that, though, like for you, I don't know why that there's two times that, and it was just a matter of me not calling you because I just fucking spaced. Yeah. So, honestly, there's two times. And I'll never forget it. It was, I feel bad to this moment. You know what I was about to say?

So we filmed my show, grasping at straws. And I'll never forget this. And we were, and we shot this whole thing, comedians and all this stuff. And we're leaving for the last day. We were shot at the Acme. Well, Acme was comedy club was where the main thing was, and right next door was Amalfi. And we shot at Amalfi. We shot there for like three days.

And we had wrapped shooting. And we were walking out, exhausted, and Brett was coming in or to Acme. Yeah, I was coming up to, no, I was actually coming up to the dude. Were you? I think it was, uh, Jody Miller had a, I was going to, it was the first time I'd done stand-up in a long time. I was going to open up for one of our classes, I think, like that. So I actually came up and like there's a set and stuff.

Oh, yeah, we were shutting it down. And no, I saw you outside. Oh, okay. I thought it was up in the, like the, you might have been going there afterwards, but I, I vividly remember your look on your, face when I said to you, yeah, I was shooting a pilot there that you're like, oh, yeah, I was like, yeah, I wrote and directed. And in your head, in your head, you were saying, Motherfucker, are you bringing in this?

And I, and I swear to you, I thought, fuck, I should have put bread in this thing. And I just didn't think about it. I was, because we weren't hanging out as much. No, no. Well, that's the thing. You know, I got married. You got me into Acme. Right.

And then you, you were like, ah, this is. And I was like, oh, God. This is. So I want more. people to go down with the ship with me when I go as bad. I can't handle this, you know, having a bad set in that thing. And I love the sketch thing. Yeah.

And so, I mean, we weren't, and I was, you know, I mean, you know, when you get with your gal. Yeah, it becomes your life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we would still see each other here and there. Like you brought over, I remember this day, you brought over Blake. And I have a picture of when I was holding Blake.

Yeah. I think Lake is that picture. I remember some girl going, hey, you look really cute with a baby in your hand. Thank God. My wife doesn't listen to this. show, I swear to Christ. So anyway, so then I saw you, I remember thinking that,

shit, I should have put, I should have put Brett in this fucking show. And then the other time was in the Toad Hop days when I was building out the crew. I was building out that crew and it was at first, the way that the whole crew came about, it was me and Mark

first, obviously. And we started with John Schezer, who was a comedian that at the store. He was like our first engineer. And then we got a second producer, Katie, who she was, she worked at Carolla for a while. So she engineered a lot of our shows.

And then we transitioned into in studio, because that was like portable, right? Yeah. Then we transitioned in studio. And we went to, we started at Toad Hop, but it was at the John Lovett's Comedy Club. And it was just Mark and I

and Catherine Reitman came on for a couple shows, but it was because it was morning, it was hard for her to do. So she transitioned out. And then we're like, okay, we need another co-host, and Katie Sackoff became our co-host. And then they moved, they moved into, TOTOP moved into the, the, the, the, the, the, the work sues on Hollywood Boulevard. And we didn't go. We stayed at this other club.

And we're like, yeah, we're going to stay with these guys. This, I don't remember even the name what it was. There was this whole big thing. And Frank, from Heidi and Frank was like, you guys don't want to come with us? And I'm like, yeah, we're going to stay here. And after a little bit, I was, I, Mark and I had a meeting with this guy that was running. We're like, I don't know, man. And I call Frank.

And then Roddy Piper asked me to do a show. He was over on Toad Hop with Frank. And I went over and Frank was kind of like, oh, you son of a bitch, you trade. We were laughing. And I just remember feeling that vibe. But Roddy's thing. And I'm like, no, we need to do the show here.

So I told Mark, I'm like, let's see if we talk to Frank. He was like, yeah, man, come on over. Frank was, Frank was great about it. And we started to do the show. It was just me, Katie, and Mark. And then there was a battle that they had on Twitter. for who was going to be the next producer and whoever won

would be the producer and I don't remember what the contest was but Ken won. So then Ken came in and Ken was a producer and then Riley would come back in doing like facts and wrote him in and then I said what if McCoug was like our Artie Lang type guy and he could be in the back just kind of drinking and doing some crazy shit so we had him come in and then we

auditioned or interviewed interns and then JTE came in and that's kind of how that all formed and then once Katie Sackoff had to leave because she booked a ton of jobs then we met Tiffany Smith on an audition and we asked her to come on as a guest she fit in so that's all how that form but honestly if we go back also I would have put you on the show back I don't even know like what I was I mean I didn't see it 2012 it was when that we first started over there

okay I had a two year old and a yeah so it's probably hard for you anyway at that point yeah I don't even know what I was doing at the time 2012 we had we had e entertainment come in one time we were playing the celebrity impression dating game and bono Bonnie was the guest. And we also had RJ Middy from Breaking Bad who played the son. Oh, okay. And E. Entertainment recorded the whole thing because there was the, my manager at the time, Marky Costello, was she had a show called The Drama Queen.

So we were, they were going to feature this whole thing. You know, there's like a snippet of the show made it, which I was bummed about because it was a really good show. and I think they could have put some more in there. Honestly, we got too entertaining, but that's not, they were trying to go for this whole, the whole thing was like bullshit like that. What I,

what I always, Mark is such a fascinating character that I would, let's follow what she really does in life as a casting director and all this stuff and she teaches these classes. Like, that's what I thought the show was going to be. They gave her like all these scripts

and they, you know, they fabricated, like I did a scene where they're like, all right now, you come in and you say this. And they set up Mark on this fucking, bullshit date with the with the receptionist it wasn't even a real day it was like a scripted date it was so stupid but like and it wasn't and it wasn't marquis costello's fault it was it was the producers at e i thought because markey marky is such a fascinating character that would have been a great show but i don't know

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Is it, it's a sketch show. God, what the hell is his name? I have to look it up. It's a guy used to work right for S&L, and it's way out there. This is the second season of it, and it's, it's insane. I think you'll dig it because it's out there. I mean, there is a point where it gets a little, a yelly, which I love.

Tim Robinson. I think you should leave with Tim Robinson. Oh, from the... You should check it. It's funny? It's pure insanity com and like nothing... And things just... Sketches just kind of end and you're like,

well, you know, but not... I hate it when people just end things, but like this works. And you can tell this guy probably at S&L was killing people in the pitch room. And then when they let his stuff air, it was... They were duds because it was just too like...

It's very... political SNL though too that's it's amazing how so many look to Chris Rock bombed on on SNL it didn't didn't very well uh Julieus Dreyfus Robert Dany Jr like there's so many people who had these and Robert Johnny Jr. is probably not the best example because of it's but you know he's he's he's got good comedic chops but that's not his strong point but but Dreyfus obviously is like all these characters that were been on SNL that couldn't get past that hump as far as um and I'm not talking about actual politics but the the politics that goes on behind the scenes like in anything.

Yeah. Where you've got it. It's like, you know, Killer be killed at that place. Yeah, if you watch this, you'll know that why he didn't work on SNL. He probably, I don't know how long he wrote for him,

but I know that he probably had an uphill battle because his shit is out there. But it's like, I was, like, I was crying, watching Lonnie's like, are you okay? I'm like, I was laughing so hard at this first episode. And they're only 15 minutes long. It's six, six, six, um, six episodes that are 15 minutes long or whatever.

How long of the six episode season? The scenes are like little snippets and then they have this kind of like laughing kind of So is it like a special or like a show? It's just it's a sketch or you know like film sketch kind of show. It's not like a SNL stage kind of a thing. Did you watch the Boberna thing? Yeah, yeah. I got to finish it because what I saw I loved.

I watched like I think I had 20 minutes of it and I really liked it. but again, my wife, it's to no one's surprised. My wife was like, okay, they got it. She bailed on it. But like, I really liked what he was doing for sure. But is it similar to that? No, no. This is just pure, I don't want to ruin any of the bits because it's just.

Is it nonsense? Yeah. Oh, it's the first, but again, I will say this. I'm all for like sketches that go, are elevated and they get to kind of a yelling point. I think he takes it to the yelling point a little too much on some of them, but they're just fucking. out there and the first I like and Lonnie liked it but she's like maybe you can watch some of these yourself because I'm like right yeah I'll give it I'll give it a world what's it called again

um I think you should leave you should Tim Robinson yeah it's the second season I can't believe you haven't heard of this you know what um you know what scene or or sketch no one ever talks about I think I'm the only idiot that likes the sketch although I have no now shown my nine-year-old who loves it on standard live did you ever see that boardroom sketch with rain Wilson Maybe. It's, it's completely bonkers and it's so much nonsense and I love it. It's, he's, he's trying to, it starts off very serious. We're like, all right, we have, we have big meetings here and he's going through all the, Derek, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and he starts to get into these really ridiculous characters, and he's just like, Chief Shangbo?

And then, and he says something. He's like, no, not you. That's Carl. And then you turn, you turn to the side and just like, and Lou, it goes, mahr. How about you giant turkey club sandwich? It's like a turkey club sandwich talking. There's a head on the wall talking. It's so stupid.

Have you never seen this? Maybe. I'll show it to you afterwards. I just thought it's really stupid. And I love it. I remember seeing it. That was one that I really liked a lot. It's amazing which ones hit with me that are not like super famous.

So you bring up a lot of Saturday Live ones. The other one was this one that Tracy Morgan did when he was the homeless guy in the street. Oh, yeah, yeah. But there was one that he did with Keternelai. Kate Hudson. That was really, they sing like songs together. And I remember watching. Something like that.

No, that was the one where he's singing is the whole thing. Yeah, he'd be singing as the whole thing. But she like, they like find out of falling in love. And she goes, and she plays herself. And she like goes into the sewer with him. And he has a script. And it's complete nonsense. And he's, those are great.

You're really good. Anyway. So it's memory, memory lane for studying in LAV. Yeah, I think you'll like, it's, but it is. It's pure insanity. and then sometimes they'll just kind of end but that it goes into something else and yeah, he's out there and I love it.

I gotta check it out. I'm gonna check it out. And we watch Barb and Star go to Vista Del Mar. Dude, my wife tried to watch it. I fucking bailed in like two minutes. I don't know why I said the bar like here and I had fun. I'm not saying it's the best movie in the world,

but if you just go like it starts really, but there's some, it gets fun. My wife, I know this is not, I know this is for you guys out there. She bells on everything. she doesn't bail on movies like this. She was out. She was out.

See, I don't know what mood we were in. It was, well, I mean, you watch the news enough and anything will, you know, take it. Totally. And I think that was the reason why she started trying to watch it. And, like, I, it was, yeah, I was, no. No, no, thanks. I know. I know it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and I, again, I think I could have been a Tuesday and I didn't like it.

And a Thursday that Wednesday or whatever, I, I, I, I, really enjoyed it. Yeah, I mean, like, I just, even the opening, like, it's like they were trying, I just felt you were trying too hard with the kids singing on the bike. Yeah. And it's like, well, and their characters, I mean, again, you know, it's, I know that people, I grew up in Nebraska. They're Nebraska.

And yes, they're overly done. Like, they kind of almost sound like they're from Minnesota to me. They're not quite, you know. And it's just, it's a lot of digs at the Midwest, but just, I don't know, some of the things, some jokes hit with me. And then, and I can never. never remember his damn name, but that stunner from 50 Shades. Oh, Jamie Dornan?

Yeah. He does some stuff, which you probably didn't see, you know, in the film. Like, he does this singing to, like, Seagull's song or whatever, and I was dying just because I've only seen him in, like, 50 Shades. And, like, there was one who's a serial joke. Yeah, yeah. And then here's him doing, I love it when somebody like that takes themselves and just allows themselves to be stupid. Absolutely. And it was, it was fun.

But I'm not saying this isn't like. like I'm not putting it up there with anything else. You just were in the right mood to enjoy it. And you know they had a fucking great time making it. Right. Like, because it was just Kristen Wigg still, I don't know,

maybe it's because I'm a stand of Chris and Wing. But they give a false bill of goods on that one too because the, which one does Kristen Wink play? Barb. Yeah. All right. So Star,

she, I think she like maybe co-wrote bridesmaids or something. Okay. Did something to do with it, but they say the co-stars are bridemates. She's in that bridesmaids. for maybe two minutes. Because I didn't recognize her.

She's on the plane. She's on the plane with Kristen Wage when she's funny in it. She's very funny in it. But she's not, but she's not co-star. She's a background player. That's how we tie it up here, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for joining us, ladies and gentlemen. And once again, I want to remind you guys about July 31st.

It is the Shmodown Collision 4. We've got four massive, massive matches. is a two digital, two in studio, and thank you to Captain Morgan, the original Spice from, please go and check it out. It is going to be, and I guess I can say that here.

A lot of people who didn't know this, maybe now you know it. We are not going to put this one on PPV. This is going to be for the whole public. We're going to have everybody able to see the collision. As it airs, July 31st, we want everyone to see this one because it is the in studio match,

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