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I never know what to call it. There he is. Hey, what's going on? You and I are what the kids call old. Slopping it up. We went to the, went to Ellis's show on, it was quite an adventure on Saturday. Oh. And the yawns on the way there were plenty.

Well, so just to show you the rock stars that Brett and I are, I got into a car with a full cup of coffee. Well, you just had pounded a red bull. Pounded a red bull. It was 7 o'clock, or earlier, I think. Oh, yeah. Went to get me at 545, and I was like, I'm going to need like 10 minutes. I'm putting kids, taking kids out of baths and cleaning up kitchens and doing all this stuff.

And so we get into the car, we take this ride over, and, you know, we're like, okay, we'll get into the first show. We go to the first show. And as we get this, very nice theater, by the way. Oh, very cool. It was a good theater. It was a great venue. Mark killed it. Apparently on both shows, we only saved for the first, but killed it on both.

But the outside, not the best neighborhood. As we're getting out, there was tons of stuff going on. I mean, you could throw a rock and hit something shady going on. And so as we're walking, I go to Brett, you might not want to go that way. Guy with his dick hanging out, walking down the street, pubes out, and he's moving the stretch. And Brett, without blinking, goes, he doing calisthenics. Just stretching out a little bit. A little stretch.

Pubes out. Just ready. Ready to move. Just doing his thing. where the world would take him. The world's going to take him. And we said, you know, because if me or you did that today, right now, could take us to jail.

Oh, yeah. Not him. No. Take a dump in the middle of the street. It's Ted. It's Tuesday. That's what he's doing. Ted Tuesday.

It's Ted Tuesday. That's Ted's talk. Yeah. It's just, it's Ted's talk. He's going to take a big old shit right in the street. And that's okay because that's what he does. But we get there. Mark has a great show.

and it was he did his his tape is our taping uh two two episodes oh not two episodes but two tapings one on i think the first show was when we went at like seven um and the second was like at nine 30 or nine nine yeah so we missed it was funny because we coy posted a picture of of all of us and then roxy had said um well how come i i wasn't in that picture what if she wasn't there yet and i said uh well you know you should could have been cool enough to go to the first show or she said in what world is That first show is the cool show. And I'm like, because we saw that motherfucker first. Yeah.

We saw it first. We had fresh. Yeah, you try to impress that TikTok audience or whatever you're doing. But it was great. I saw our buddy Eliza Slesinger was there. Got to catch up with her. I haven't seen her in a while. It was nice to catch up with her.

She's doing great, man. I'm so proud of her. She's just amazing. I haven't seen the latest one, but I've loved every other, the amazing, amazing special she has. She's just such a, a powerhouse as far. She's always been like that. I told her, we were talking about it when I saw her.

So we were just going back and I met her. I met her in like 2003 at the improv. She was probably, if she was 21, I'd be surprised. But we just talked about it. She's always been, she's just been a hustler, man. She's just been a hustler. It was really nice to see her. But it was funny.

All the parents went to the first show. She's a new parent. All the parents went to the first because then I saw all the derelicts were at the second one. And you know, Kaiser and Dad. Magnino and everybody's at the second show and the people who don't have kids who are just out party and like the 25 years old. Because they want to go do some afterward, which I'm like. God bless them.

So like Riley and his lovely lady were there and Sam Levine and Rachel. And they're all like they're all partied it up like they're like they're in college. And I'm like, look, God bless. Oh, we're at home, you know. I was sleeping. Oh, you're sleeping up in? Oh, yeah, you had to get up early. I went to university.

I'm in bed, just relaxing and looking at Instagram and things. and seeing, oh, look at all those young kids. I found out the next day. And so I went to Universal Studios with my oldest daughter. I was 11th. We took her for her 11th birthday. It took her and her friends. So it was myself and freaking four 11-year-olds.

Now it sounds like it could be a disaster. Yeah. Sweetest kids in the world. That's great. It was so easy to do. All the kids, kudos to their parents. because all these kids were polite. All these kids were super nice.

They were just loving life. Loving being there. This one kid never been to amusement park ever. Never been on a roller coaster. Looked like she just walked into Willie Wonka. That's awesome. Had the eyes like, and I'm like, this is awesome. I'm like, this is this.

I didn't like, because I was like, okay, is this going to be a bunch of, you know, they're going to be yelling and screaming? Are they going to be a pain in the ass? Who are these kids? It was amazing. It was great. Although it shows you how much I'm really tuned into what's going on.

They all meet, all the kids meet up in front of the house, getting ready to go. And there's some siblings running around too for the other kids. And so this one of the girls, God bless her, is just terrified of dogs. So there was this little shit dog that comes over. Like a sweet little dog, well, a shit dog, couldn't do anything. And he's just one of those dogs, fluffy, couldn't hurt a fly. But you're scared of dogs, you're scared of dogs. Oh, yeah.

So this poor little kid, jump. jumps into her mom's arms just wailing as if Pennywise is coming after her, right? And I'm like, it's right. So I go, I go, that's not like there's going to be any dogs at the park, right? That kid's not coming with us. I thought she was coming with us. And then they're, I mean, I'm like, but I played it off. I'm like, I turn around.

I go, oh, that must be that. That must be the person coming like this. Okay, good. I got to, I said to myself, let's learn who these kids are so I don't lose them. Yeah. But yeah, it was, but it was great. Four's a good number. If you were juggling like six to eight, that might be trouble.

But again, this is the kudos to the kids. They locked arms in crowds. They didn't wander. They were, again, let's eat. We're done. Great. Let's go on something else. Not a single complaint on the line.

Some of the lines were long. They didn't, they all got, a few of them got scared for the mummy ride, which I didn't even know about. Did you know the mummy ride? I couldn't do them. Remember, we talked about how the things messed us up. I didn't even get to do it. See, so they did the, I didn't do any of the rights. I'd waited for them for all of it.

They did the Harry Potter ones. They were fine. Right. But apparently the mummy one is like, is like a real roller coaster inside of like this thing. And they're like 11 years old and going on. And so they all bailed at it. And they all bailed. And they were like, yeah, we're good.

And they did Transformers. They ended with Transformers. We took off. But it was a roller coaster. It's the VR stuff. Oh, but it was so the Transformers was the VR stuff. The roller coaster was. was Harry Potter.

Oh, see, there's two, there's the one road. There's two. But then there's the, oh, the first one, right. The one inside the castle is the VR. It's just doing this. Right, right. That's the one that they did. I didn't do that.

But there's a little roller coaster that they did too. That's all right. I can't do it all. Can't do it all. The first one took me out for the day. Yeah. Two things. One, that Harry Potter world,

so normally, whether you go to Disneyland or any of these freaking parks that you go to, the food is shit. Yeah. Like any of them, any of the places that you go to, the food is you normally like, it's just junk food. And even when they try to tell you it's high end or usually shit, this food at, what is it, the 17 broomsticks or whatever the hell it's called. I don't know what the name of the restaurant is called. But the food is good, like really good food.

And like they, and it looked good. And I'm like, holy, like, I can't. I don't know what the picture. I'm going to show you, show you, Brett, the picture. Look at these grapes. No, I'm not even kidding. It's like that's like a picture of these grapes. You can tell normally like those look like just like repactured packaged packaged

packaged grapes and these were like good they were good grapes. Just thinking about hanging out with you in our 20s and you're about to show me some good looking grapes. Look at those grapes. Those are some nice looking grapes. The chicken is really good. That food is delicious. Mac and cheese was yummy. I couldn't believe it.

Tell me. 20 years ago, you'd be showing me a nice plate of great. Don't tell my wife, but look at this, look at this mac and cheese. Oh, shit. I had two portions of this. I mean, I wasn't some, I got a plate of ribs. I got a plate of ribs. Yeah.

I got the ribs. What a pack of ribs. Through, caution to the wind. Through some ribs. But I did, like, I told myself I was going to eat well. Big slop. I had a, like, where, I was in the clear, because they were, they were done eating. Going, you know, there was like 17 escalators.

to get to the bottom of the floor, and I'm like, let's get a pretzel. So I get a pretzel with cheese, which is not good for you. People, I'll be punishing people with that cheese for the next three days. Well,

because it's not cheese. We took a picture of it at Disneyland and it said cheese flavored sauce. Oh, it's disgusting, whatever it is, but it just did the trick. Anyway,

so that was my, that was the day. And then we started out and, and we're back at it. We're back at it, everybody. All right, Let's get into this news because it's getting to the Mandalorian. Some Mandalorian news.

I didn't know what the hell to... I mean, there's a lot of stories, but I was like, this one to me is... It's interesting. So, Writers Guild of America posted the third season of the Mandalorian, the writers, and the episodes that they're going to do. The official WGA website has revealed the list of writers for the next season of the show, and it's comprising other.

eight episodes. Now, John Favro, the showrunner of the series, is credited on them every single one with him co-writing three episodes. The credits are as followed. Season three, episode one, John Favro. Season three, episode two, John Favro. Season three, episode three, episode three, Noah Clure and John Favro. Season three, episode four, John Favro and Dave Follone. Season three, episode five, John Favro, season three, episode six, John Favro, season three, episode seven. John Favro and Dea Filoni, Season 3, Episode 8, John Favro. Havro is being heavily involved with the Mandalorian. It's unsurprising, given his status as a showrunner and his commitment to do it and

spin-offs. And likewise, it's not surprising to see Dave Filoni take part in co-writing two episodes ahead of his Assoca series. A bit more surprising is the addition of Noah Kluor, who was credited as a staff writer for all seven episodes of Book of Bobafat, getting his first full credit as Star Wars writer. it seems likely that Filoni's episodes could tie in with the Asoka spin-off, while Clor's episode might have ties to the book of Bobavet.

We already know that we'll be going back to Tatouine based on trailer footage, so seeing the original on-screen Mandalorian run into headlining his own series would not be too shocking. As for directors, details on them aren't completely clear. It's previously been stated that many directors from previous seasons will return. But so far, the only name is given of Bryce Dallas-Haward, Carl Weathers, and Rick Vermewea. I never gets right. His name right, and he, I love him. Famuia.

Who was also promoted to executive producer this season. It's unclear whether John Favreau and Filoni will be directing duties. We'll do directing duties this time. Duty. However, hopefully the director. Hey, got to go do to directing duty, and I'll be right back. Six years old. Hey, anybody seen any director?

He's doing a duty. The Director's Guild of America also revealed. was involved with each episode in similar fashion to the WGA. No word if Allison Dutie will be around. The third season of Star Wars, The Mandalorian will be airing on Disney Plus, starring March 1st, 2020. The show's first two seasons in the spin-off,

The Book of Boba Fett, which serves as an interlude between the second and third season of the show, are available to watch on the service right now. When I was in the eighth grade at St. Roberts, we had a priest and his name was Father Dutti. Nice little birthday present for me coming out in March. March 1st. Yeah, I'm the third with Kate.

So that is big, dude, March is absolutely stacked with all those movies plus the Mandalorian. I mean, holy moly, it is going to be a busy, busy time for everybody and a good time for everybody. But the writers, the stuff, you know, as far as Favro goes, that's what, what you're, As a casual fan, what's your take on all that hearing that Favreau is writing like pretty much what? How many eight episodes by himself writing at least five of them by himself? I'd like to know. I mean, I honestly don't know did he write most of the ones in the previous seasons? I wrote a lot of them for sure.

But I think what it means on the overall is that he, there's a couple things the way to look at it. As they mentioned in that article, Star Wars Newsnet, it is, their stuff is like really, share about as big shared universe as you get. Because that time period that they're playing in, as it'll probably tie into Asoka. It'll probably tie into something, maybe a tease from Skellas and Crew at some point. It'll probably tie into BobaFet

because it all plays in that time period. And that's all the shows that they work on. So I think by pushing that forward, it makes a lot of sense. Especially some of those episodes, as they mentioned, with Filoni and Favreau together, it probably would tie in the Osaka stuff

because it helps promote the show. The other thing that I'm very curious about, I want to see how, I mean, they had already shot this before Andor, but I'm so curious what Andor did for the game, meaning that, yes, it might not have done as well in the ratings as some of these other shows, but it was the most talked about as far as critical. Like, easily, is that going to change the way that some of these showrunners and the way, now I could see Flonie and Favreau pushing back against that type of tone because they, I mean, they're not so. so far off of the tone. Their stuff could, they have serious plus the fun stuff. I think that Faloni really plays in the,

um, the world of George Lucas of saying, this is for kids, but still there's that Star Wars lore and everything too, where Tony Gilroy was like, no, this one, this is,

this is for kind of adults and maybe, maybe some, maybe some older teenagers, but for the most part, this is for adults. So I don't know. Where do you, where do you think this kind of lands?

Well, if you, you know, I know, the, the, um, afterward.

I don't know what they were called. Oh, yeah, the gallery. The gallery. I mean, Favreau's a fan and he's, he's,

he's dialed in on this. So I, I think it's great. I mean, I think he's, he's truly has a passion. You can see him about things and, oh,

and he hears the music and he's playing it for people like that. So I think it's great and it will have at least a, complete through line with one person being a part of all of it. You know, I like the extra thrown in, maybe a couple extra more thrown in, maybe. Right, I don't know.

I don't know. I think that I think that should be determined at the end of the season. Yeah. Because if it turns out that he's, because what it shows is, as they mentioned, it shows how invested he is. And some people can say, well, yeah, he's also getting paid for each one of them. Of course he is. But he's also really locked in.

So I want to see what his Mandalorian season three looks like. I want to see. And I'm sure that he, just because he wrote it, some of them by himself, it doesn't mean he's not talking to, Faloni about the Mandalorian culture and the Mandalorian. Because I think this is going to be the most, the most locked in that we are to the Mandalorian culture. I would say that I think this is absolutely,

this season of the Mandalorian season three will be the most involved we get to the Mandalorian culture, the things that we're going to see with Bo Catan, the stuff what we're going to see with Din and how he's got to, with the Dark Sabre and how he's going to be able to, to defend that, going back to Mandelor. This will be the richest we see in Mandalorian culture thus far. So seeing Favro do that, yeah, I think this is good news.

And I don't think there's any, like I'm saying, there's no denying. This guy loves what he's doing. Yeah. Getting paid or not, you see in those gallery things that he is really enjoying himself and is, you know, I bet he's just like dying to do it. I think so, yeah. Like, let's get this going. And I think this is a good competition now of like what, I guess people are already saying,

there's a back and for there. Some people, I still have Mandalorian as my number one. It's my favorite live action series so far. But there's a lot of people that put Andor right there. And I still think Andrew is the best written. But I think that he's probably like, okay, fine. How about this? How about this?

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I want to move to this one here. Now this is. It's a handsome man. Thank you. Oh, you're talking about it. So James Gunn, he's out there, and he's talking about the DC movies, and he's talking about when the new DCU slate is actually going to begin. So DC Studios co-CEO, James Gunn, has confirmed that he and Peter Safran have given notes

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Those include Shazam. Fury of the Gods, The Flash, Blue Beetle, and Aquaman in the Lost Kingdom. After recently hyping up the new Blue Beetle poster on Instagram, Gunn started answering some fan questions about the DCU's future. He started by revealing, Peter and I will help to guide the already film project for the next year, but the slate won't start until after Aquaman too. So the DCU slate officially kicks off in 2024. That's exciting as the fact both Gunn and Saffron have been giving notes on the remaining DCEU movies, seeing as leaks have confirmed that both the Flash and Aquaman sequels are going to lay the groundwork for a crisis on Infinite Earth adaptation.

We're guessing this input from the DC Studios. Heads might have resulted in the removal of those elements. After all, they have their own ideas for the shared role. They probably don't want to be beholden to past concepts. While time will tell on the front, Gunn also said, we're excited to be shepherding the great films before we arrived and working hard to create an extraordinary, wondrous and unique DCU beyond that. Needless to say, it finally feels like the franchise is in safe hands.

And like Gunn, we're excited about the future. As for when, we'll learn what that DCU slate looks like. We'll bet on it being well into 2023. Okay. So a lot to kind of pull back here. Obviously, James Gunn now, you know what's so interesting now having you on the show with the last, I don't know, three, four months, whatever it is. You are probably the most well-adversed in this stuff now that you've ever been.

Yeah, of course. You would have never known in a million years that James Gunn and Safran were running, but now you know you've been following all these stories. What do you think, though, hearing this, because we've talked about it. When that story broke, me and Roxy talked about how we thought it would, how it would run now with him, and we all guessed, and I still think ComicCon will be when they announced this late, like 2024 is probably when you see the first edition,

but this, that they're putting their input into the movies that were already there, how does that fare for the DCU right now? Wonderful. Yeah. Wonderful. Yeah. I mean, I think we talked about it in great length. And, you know, I said, I think it's a great idea.

And then Roxy went through and explained why. I'm like, see? Right. I know. But I don't remember what she said. But I have a question with your question is, so we're not going to see a new. new one, like, do you think we're going to see Flash or Aquaman before?

That's 2020. Okay. But nothing new until 2020. Right. That's what they're essentially saying. They're saying that the new DCU as created by them, all these movies that were already shot before they were hired, those were all come out. They're just saying that they had some input on whether it was like some of the post-production

stuff and how maybe reshoots and things that would then tie in. They're paying attention to all of it. So it's not like one of these things where what could happen is, all right, they hire someone to come in, but they've already shot out of this. Well, let's just put it out there. And then we'll just start our thing. They're going to start their thing in 2024, but the stuff that's already, it will tie into this stuff. But their version of it will be just a little later, which is what we all thought anyway.

But the fact that they had their input that they're able to say, okay, look, how about this? How about the idea that if this was all, because there was an idea of where all this stuff was leading before you got these guys. guys when these movies were shot that are coming out, Flash, Aquaman, all of it. Shazam and all. All of it. And Shazam is Peter Saffron produced. So he's probably like they probably just got in a room and said, okay, let's get a couple reshoots.

Let's know that if we're going to take it here, if they wanted us to go in this particular direction, that's not something that we're comfortable in. We're not going to go there. So let's just make sure we do a reshoot here. Let's make sure we do this. Let's make sure that Blue Beetle lands into this and can connect to this and that we can make sure that we have this particular tone of what's going to happen. So I think it is good.

And I think they're right that it just shows how much that they care. Similar to what we're just talking about with Favre. Yeah, yeah. And I think that it is good that they are, you know, taking control now because they had a shit show to deal with. And, you know, to not just suddenly just, oh, like you said, crank them out. Because then you've got to backtrack when you're doing the new ones. But I think, yeah, that's wonderful.

There's somebody that has the plan and can take, what they've been handed and and driving in the right direction. And, you know, I'd like to see, when you say 2024, that just seems so long. It seems like forever, but it's not. It's not. It's only two years away. It's not even two years away.

50. But it's like a year. It really, it's like next month it'll be a year away. Oh, man. It's a year or one month. Yeah. It's not that far away. And I don't think we're getting a movie in,

if we're getting a movie from Gunn and Safron in 2024, it's going to be. December of 2024, if that, because they're probably putting into play now. They're just not announcing what the hell they're doing yet. But I would assume, I mean, some people say no, but I would assume that it would be Superman. I think that's what I was just thinking. It has to be. I mean, that's, that's, that's, that's your, if, if we're doing a thing, we're like,

okay, we just want to put the first movie out and we want it to do well. So we continue to do stuff, your best bet is leading with Superman. It's like, you know, your little characters, your smaller characters, like, Guardians of Galaxy was, nobody knew what they were. Nobody knew, but they already had all these setups beforehand. They had Iron Man, they had, and Iron Man was in this massive character, but he was a character that you started to build Captain America, big character, right? And all these things, they built up to it, and then finally you got Guardians of the Galaxy.

But, yeah, you go with the big guy. And, I mean, well, Cavill has announced, I mean, that was a big announcement that he will be. He's coming back. Yeah, so, I mean, why would that announcement be made if that's not one of the first things that are going to happen. And for the general audiences, I mean, yeah, you don't want to go with some off character that nobody knows. You could go with Superman. And I don't think, I remember talking about this where people were saying that Superman was, nobody wants that Boy Scout story, you know. That's the way the old regime in Warner Brothers felt and they were wrong. Yeah,

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I love Deltora. I love him. It was funny that was talking to Campion Burnett who brought him up not doing Superman. I said, no. No. Wouldn't work. And I'll tell you why.

Wouldn't work because he's so, it's very, I didn't like the Sam Ramey movie. He didn't like the freaking, what's his name, Tycho, Titi, who I love. I didn't like when it's too stylized for a director. And it would be a stylized del Tore movie. Plus he likes doing his own thing. And this speaks volumes. Deltora plans to do a monster film next.

Perfect. Yes. Yes. With his celebrated stop motion adaptation of Pinocchio. By the way, I've met Deltore a handful of times of collider. Might be the sweetest human being in the world. He looks like it. I'm glad to hear that because it could be the other way.

No, he's not. He's a sweetheart. He's just such a good human being. I love Deltour. I love him. Anyway, speaking with Variety, the circuit podcast, he was talking about having a whopping 22 completed

but unproduced scripts on his plate, any one of which he could focus on next. He just loves making stuff, which is what I love about him too. That's another reason I wouldn't want him to do something that's not his. This is a guy that should be doing stuff that's his. Ask what he's going to be doing next. He says he doesn't want to reveal too many details, but he does offer that it is a monster movie of some sort. Well, I'm working on a monster movie. I cannot say the title because it may

change and I could end up making something else. For right now, I'm writing and designing. And we have for the last couple of years. Hopefully it'll be next, but anything can happen. The project doesn't sound like his long-awaited at the mountains of Madness adaptation, which he hinted at the other day, could be turned into a stop-motion animated feature. He's He adds here that should it go that route, it will need to be rewritten as a script would need to be different. He also confirmed Netflix hasn't yet officially handed out a second season renewal of his anthology horror series, Grimald de Toro's cabinet of curiosities, even as the director has put together a wish list of Helmers, should it go forward. I mean, this is just, you know, there's certain, like, duh moments, and this is a dumb moment.

He's not a few monsters. Yeah, but he's just, that's just, that's his thing. He likes to go down that road. He likes to go down that route. He brings, he's got a very specific style and look that when he does something, whether it's, um, shape of water or, or any of these movies, like he's, he's able to bring that del torre flavor to it. So doing a monster movie, I think, I can't think of the name of it, but the, the one, the creepiest one of all, with the, the guy, uh, Doug Jones.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Pans Labyrinth. Oh, I mean, some of the most. That's my favorite del Toro movie. Yeah, it's so good. And so creepy.

It's so creepy. The music is beautiful. And the, the mixture of like a real, like, war drama almost combined with this mystical kind of crazy. Yeah, that, to me, I think that's his best film. But a lot of people love a lot. I mean, he's got so many. And you like shape of water. Yeah, I like shape of water.

I didn't go as cuckoo about it as everybody else did. But I thought it was, I thought it was really, I thought it was beautifully made. Yeah. Just not my, it's not the one that sings to me the same way that like Pants Labyrinth. Yeah, and I really enjoyed it and then I heard what people had to say with it, but I'm like, I mean, that's all right. Like the falling in love with the fish guy. Whatever. It's like, Tom Hanks did it with Daryl Hanna.

Just looks like Daryl Hanna. Yeah. Oh, yes. Oh, is it all right? Right. When a man falls in love with the mermaid, but not when a woman falls in love with the mermaid. A fish face. A fish face.

Yeah, maybe he's got a fishcock. That was the original name of the movie. Yeah, Alfred Fishcock. Alfred Fishcock. So he's going to the Universal ride and watching it. He was so involved in everything. He was all over the place. It's amazing how many movies they shoot at Universal.

It really is. Like riding around and looking at all the stuff that they do. And it's like, but it's like you've got to update some of that video. Ron Howard looks like he's 30 years old. I saw him at Willow. Yeah, I remember. He's like seven years old.

What's 30? He's like, oh, he's like you got to update some of Apollo. He's like, oh, and they don't update it. It's like, oh, our new show coming out. That's just been canceled for four years. Yeah. What he's talking? Hey, look, it's Laverne and Shirley.

Coming out next month. Brand new. You knew him from Happy Days. Yeah. It's like they had a Bryce Talas Howard. Our new Jurassic Park movie came out last year. Talk, or whatever it was, June or something. I want to get in that psycho house.

I want to see what that looks like inside. Probably. It's so funny you say that because I thought the same thing because they have, you know, Mike Kalinowski usually plays Norman Bates. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, wow. It wasn't working yesterday. And shout out to Mike who got me tickets for my daughter and her friends yesterday.

But like, yeah, he does that normally. But Norman Bates comes out. He sticks the body in the trunk and then he walks back into the house. Wow. Like the guy that was doing it was really good I watched him I was watching him because I was like I wonder if once the tram goes away they just Kind of just smoking a cigarette kicks

He's still in character from I watched a little fucker all the way all the way up He's in character the whole he through he takes the body back out of the car and puts it back in the thing But he's he's looking up at the tram and he's not looking up what he's really looking up at the tram for us is like okay kind of do I got a reset now Yeah But he's looking up like he's still creepy like he was he was gonna I'm gonna try to get Mike on the phone and talk to him about Norman Bates he never picks up when you don't know. Oh, he'd know what it looked like in there. Oh, I know. So I'm going to call and see.

I'm going to ask him if he's allowed to. Let's see if you get my call and ask you. Because I think of the time when it was made, it wouldn't be so much of a shell that can... Because they must have shot stuff in it, too. Well, they say it on the tour that there's nothing inside of it. That, um, normally it's just

the sound stages of the stuff that they really use. Oh, for the inside of the house. Yeah, Mike's not picking up. Your call has been forwarded. I'll just, I'll text them and I'll see if I can get them. So, because I would love to know that. We are on big thing. All right.

Anyway, so let's get to another story here. And there's more to talk about. And I want to talk about this trailer man, Spider-Man, Spider-Man, Spider-Verse, the sequel, it sets the trailer launch. And that's, it's a big movie. And I found out the other day, I was, I was nervous. because I said I saw it on as I was going through the movies that were coming out. I said Spider-Verse coming out 20-24.

I'm like, oh, man, that's 20-23. Well, that's part three that's coming out in 2024. Part two comes out in 2022. Sony Pictures has set a December 13th launch date for the first trailer of the highly anticipated. Mike Kalanowski. Perfect. Still connected. Yeah, it's John.

Hey, Mike. Hey, Mike. Yeah, I hear you. All right. All right. So Mike's on with us right now. It's me. It's Brett and myself.

and how are you doing? I'm good. I'm on vacation. What's up? Oh, good. All right. So I was calling one. First of all,

thank you very much for hooking up. Yeah, you're welcome. It was a lot of fun. So we were, I was talking about, we were talking about Norman Bates at the,

as we're going on, I was on that tour yesterday. Yeah. And so I'm watching, so you, are you still doing Bates? Yeah, I do that. Okay.

So I was watching, and Brett had a question. What does it look like inside of that house? If what? What does it look like inside that house? there's nothing it's a shell it's just yeah right so what do you so you just have to sit there well I shouldn't say that I didn't say that the office and the bedroom that we are part of is uh bill but there's nothing in it's empty we have a chair and a table so you just got to camp out until the next so what do they tell you

do you have to tell you in your ear like hey it's it's coming through oh no we can hear it you hear it you can hear it you know you hear the guys and here we come yeah before us we had those cars and now we're gonna surprise you with this drive-thru. Right that bummed will be the hero, but do you know who's opposite of a hero, a villain? Like, this one at the psycho house, you know. Every guy's got their different skill. The guy was good. The guy was good yesterday.

I was saying, what I was doing is as I was pulling up and I see it and I was watching him, you know, you come running after the car or whatever, and as it gets away, I'm looking and I'm watching him, like, is he going to break character when he's got to get that body out of the trunk again? And he didn't. He looked

up the whole way. You want to know why? Because you get canned. He's a professional. Yeah. Yeah. Professional. He was good. That's easy. Oh, good, good, good, good, good, good, man. He was good, but I said to, I said to Vivia, I was like, you know, Mike normally does this.

She's like, oh, how come he's not doing that? I was like, he's on vacation. She's like, oh, okay, next time. But, like, it was, but it was good, man. It's like, what, there was some of the stuff that I, that I obviously missed, and next time we go, we'll do more, but we only had a handful hours. But I just, yeah, we wanted to get your input on the, on what it looked like in that place. What, you got to be, how often does it, does it come through?

Is it every like 10 minutes? Let me tell you something. During the, no. Well, yeah, sometimes, like yesterday, what was yesterday? Sunday, I was probably busy. But, like, during, like a non, and we really don't have non-peak anymore. We used to, it used to be, like, twice a two, three times or half hour.

We're a half hour on half hour off. But there's times where they are every 60 seconds, and it's insane. Wow. It's ridiculous. Yeah, it gets insane. You got to run back and forth. You're sweating. Yeah, we got, like, we got three bodies in the house in case we get stuck and we can't bring out of the troll.

Yeah, it sucks sometimes. Yeah, man. That's amazing, though. But, I mean, when you look at it, it's not really that difficult, so it can't complain. What's your favorite gig out of all the ones that you do? Because you do the Waterworld, you do that. Six million dollar million. Oh, man, I don't, you know, everything's got things.

Like, you know, Norman's great because it's easier. The downtime we get as easy. The special effect shows great because all my best friends do the show with me. Waterworld is Waterworld. That's awesome, you know. Yeah. The Jurassic World stuff's great. So, yeah, it's, hey, buddy.

Varieties that spice a life. Well, good. Are they going to ever update Ron Howard? He looks like he's 35 years old in that tramp. It's amazing. Probably not. Probably not. All right.

Go do your vacation. I'll see you when you get back. All right, buddy. Take care. All right. The great Mike Kellen asking. Okay, so let's get to this story here again. Back to Sony Pictures has set at December 13th launch date for the first trailer of the

highly anticipated sequel, Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse. The official Twitter account of the movie has been sending out new stills from the follow-up to the 2018 release, which won the animated Oscar and sat high on many best-of-year lists. One such still teases with a caption that the trailer will release next Tuesday. The various shots and clips in recent weeks have shown off a new suit for Miles Morales, along with brief looks at Spider-Gwen and Spider-Man 2009. Joaquin dos Santos, K. Pem Powers, and Justin K. Thompson will serve as the film's directors

was Phil Lord, Chris Miller, Amy Pascal, Avi Arad, and Christina Steinberg producing. I'm excited for this one. This is, did you, do you saw the first? Oh, yeah, I loved it. It's so good. I watched it recently with my oldest, and it's just like, it just, it holds up. It's hilarious. It's funny.

A lot of pressure, though, on the sequel always. Oh, a lot. Yeah. I mean, for that one, yeah, that one had so much buzz on it. And I, yeah, please let it be good. It's one of those ones you're like, just please be good. Because people are waiting for it. The only thing I love,

besides the humor and how well written and it was heartfelt and it was pretty pure to Spider-Man and the animation is spectacular, no pun intended. And it took me a little bit because the style I know a lot of people had issues with and it took me, like the comic book look. But once I got past that, it was fine.

But in the beginning I heard about it, so it was in my head. I kind of had to let it go. You know what I'm saying? You didn't love the animation? No, well, it, just that kind of like... Comic bookie. Yeah, yeah.

I had to kind of go, okay, no, this is what it's supposed to be like and not, I don't know what I'm saying. It's like it was... You thought it was, you were so... Your eyes were kind of used to the Pixar way. Yeah, yeah. Sure. I like this new style of animation of the way that they did.

It did seem like it just pop right off the comic book. So I'm very excited for, I'm excited for the trailer. I think that the trailer alone for this one should, I don't know, should speak volumes on what we're about to see. and I think that this, Miles was the main character of the first one, but I think even more so as he's accepting his role as Spider-Man now and how it's going to play within the Spider-Vers in general.

It's going to be interesting. You think Toby. You think Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield will show up in this one? I would think, yeah, don't you? I mean. Now that they got him back and maybe they signed them a little. Yeah, I mean, they already did the point bit, you know,

but like something that, maybe where I would do it where you think they're going to do that and they don't. You know, or, you know, like. I mean, Spider-Ham, again, was hilarious. I could have had that a whole, I could do a whole film of Spider-Ham. And Nicholas Cage. Can you float in the air when he smell a delicious pie? Oh, it's the best.

That was so good. That and Nicholas Cage was incredible. It was like, we don't choose the ball. We just dance. Such a great line. We don't choose the ball. We just dance. You know what's an underrated movie?

Family man. Oh, I love that. It's underrated. They're like 47% on on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, Nicholas Cage is a great. It's, it's a, it's a, it's, I always remember seeing that with my dad, the holidays and him laughing, like out loud, um, in the theater where he's when, you know, for people don't know the story, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like this.

He made this choice in his life, um, when he was young who was with tea. Leonie and when he was younger, they were together and he's like, I'm going to London. It's just going to me for a couple of weeks and I'll be back. And he gets on the, she doesn't want him to go. He gets on the plane and they break up and he becomes like this like multi-millionaire, like big, like, was it, that stocks, whatever is business guy. Yeah. It's like he's like the top of the world.

And he's, but he's lonely, you know, but to him, he's just like he's, he's, he's, cutthroat. He's the best. And then, like, stocks and all that kind of stuff. And then Don Cheadle plays like this angel or whatever he might be, and he gives him a glimpse, so he says, but he gives him this, and he goes, what happens if he didn't get on that plane? So then you see it, and he's now, he's just basically, he's just living in the suburbs,

he's married to T. Leone, he's got kids, and he's, but he's not, he doesn't know how to do it because he's been living as a, as this mogul for the last, however long it was. And he, there's so many Nicholas Cage isms throughout it a bunch of times, but he's walking the dog and he goes, you know, if you could take a dump sometime this century? And I remember my dad just losing it because the dog's just like, what happened to Taylorone?

She's around. She was in that show, was it the vice president, I think it was called or whatever? She's around. Yeah, she's doing good. I mean, she was, it's amazing. Tealione is someone who I really like, but there's some performances from her sometimes. I'm like, oh, brutal.

Like the Jurassic, it was the Jurassic Park 3. She did nothing to do in that movie except scream and yell, it was terrible. But she's fantastic in the family man. She's so good in that movie. Anyway, it's just an offset on that one. Is that a, is that a wrong Christmas? No.

Yeah, it's around Christmas time. It takes, he, he, he jumps into Christmas day. Yeah, so that would be considered a Christmas movie. Of course it's a Christmas for me. Absolutely is. Add that your list, people. That's right. Before we get going here, I do also want to tell you guys about uncommon goods.

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I'll say, peace out. I'll talk about this Willow stuff. There's a couple things with the Willow thing that I saw. This was interesting because I saw a lot of complaints about it. I, my thoughts on Willow were this. I had seen the first 15 or 20 minutes, and I shut my TV off, and I said, I'm not going to wash this. I said, I can't do it.

It's not good. I don't like it. I don't like what they don't like this freaking, this kind of back and forth that they're doing with the modern. It's like this modern feel. The kids were all in the modern world. And then what was the other thing? The kids were in the modern world.

And the dialogue was bad. It was too. You said it was very CW. Like the. We would talk like the lion that killed me. There's a line. I've quoted it a million times over. Hey, we're supposed to get married.

That's weird. It was terrible. Yeah. And I said, my brother said the same thing as I turned it off after 15 minutes. And I said, I went to, I took my oldest to, to the premiere. And I said, all right, I really didn't like what I saw here. So, but I'll take her. And I watched those first two 15 minutes again.

And I'm like, this is brutal. It's really bad. And then it gets better. And I still think there's that major problem that the modern, taught, like you have someone who feels like, um, Joe and Waley, who's phenomenal.

I just watched the first movie again, too. And I think the first movie, even though it's like corny of the CGI's a little out, it's, it still has a specific tone. You see what they're going for and it's got like this fantasy feel and it feels like everybody's in this world. This feels like kids dressing up sometimes.

And then there's other characters. I feel like they're in it. And that stays consistent in that first episode. I thought the second episode was significantly better, but still had that problem of, of, of that modern tone. own. But anyway, the reason I bring all that up, too, is that they had an interview. And this is very interesting. I think it's a bit telling, too. So this is one of the writers from Willow.

And in the mid-1980s, writer Bob Dolman was brought on board to work on the script for Willow. Star Wars mastermind, George Lucas, had spent a long time trying to get the property going before Star Wars even. But things didn't get moving until filmmaker Ron Howard and then MGM came on board. Now, Dolman joined after that. He and Lucas were very involved during the writing process. That proved to be a very different experience to Dolman's time on the newly launched Willow sequel TV series. Now, he was talking to the Hollywood Reporter about writing on the new series, and here's what Dolman said.

He said it had more of a corporate feeling than his experience on the original and indicates that the studio maybe got a little too involved in the creative process. Dolman says it felt like the studio was over our shoulder quite a bit. The studio had been, the studio being Disney and also Lucasfilm. They had good input. They had good notes. You have to move a series along and you have to be involved in it. But it felt like we weren't left alone enough just to toss ideas around and have the kind of freedom that I had when I was working with George and Ron.

He says, whilst he received lots of input from Lucas on the film script, he had the freedom to play with his own ideas on that. George was really hands-on, wanting to go page by page through each draft, talk about everything that we were doing, and then send me back to do another draft. I prefer not to be worried about whether or not an idea was good or bad, just trying things out and taking a chance and having the courage to even find a bad idea, knowing that it could lead to a good idea. Cut to decades later, and that level of freedom and screenwriting

isn't around anymore or not just because of the different nature of film and television. There are a lot of voices, and some of them aren't necessarily voices that know more than the people that have been hired, but those voices are heard and notes are given. In the writing room of the Willow TV series, there was a constant input from other sources outside of the room. So it felt to me like we were never alone in the room. Despite his misgivings,

the new Willow is meeting a better reception than the original film. Ron Howard's film clocks up to 53% of Rotten Tomatoes and a 47 out of 100 on Metacritic, while the new series is doing better with 83% and 70 over 100 of the same outlets. The new Willow sees Warwick Davis and Joanne Whaley reprised their roles. And then there's other things. Okay.

So you hear that. And it's kind of enough. one where it's that happens happens a lot and especially when it's Disney and it's this big product and it's a movie sometimes when you get a movie with a like someone like a tony gilroy you ain't going to overpower going to tony killroy you just not this kind of room and not that this guy doesn't have the the success and the history but in a show like will you're going to get overpowered a little more and i do think this is where maybe those notes came and make it younger, make it this, make it that, do that.

And maybe that explains a lot of the, maybe it doesn't, maybe a lot of the grievances that I had with it, because I'm telling you, this first 20 minutes, I can't even tell you how many people told me, I tuned out. The first 20 minutes were terrible. I'm not even interested in the show and I want to watch it to see what this is because I don't even think I was a big, I don't even know if I saw the first will, to be honest with you. And I watched it with Vivita the night, and I enjoyed it. I like it a lot better than a series. Yeah, a lot better than, yeah, because the series is trying too hard to appease everybody. And I think that there's there's times where it feels great.

There's times where it feels terrible. But the movie, the movie, even though, like, everybody's watching it, she's like, oh, man, those computer graphics are terrible. So yeah, it's from 1988. Yeah, of course. I mean, but if had it had the type of tech today, I think it's a significantly better movie because the graphics will look a lot better. Oh, yeah.

But the effects would look a lot better. but yeah I think that the story though has kicked in enough for Willow where I'm interested but I'm seeing and I've seen you know minus a few people who don't know how to express themselves and just scream and yell and talk about things about this and that and it's like I don't listen to but the people that I do listen to are people who say that they don't like it because of certain things in certain ways of particular things and they're expressing themselves in a way and I think that they're not wrong I think that a lot of the show feels a little forced it feels like they're trying to appease people.

It feels like they're trying to do things in general that I think that you're taking away from the story. And then there's other things that fit inside of it that work really well. So I do see instead of them trusting in their writer's room, they're going, well, we got to do this. We got to make sure we do this. And make sure you do that. And do this.

Do that. Hey, call in a new. We know it. And that's my favorite line, clearly these people don't know more than the people in their room, but they have higher, like, titles. Yeah. So people listen to them. And I hate that.

Kids say weird. Yeah. Make one of them say weird. That's what they did. What it was is, hey, you know the, the Cobra Kai? Yeah. They got the young generation and the older generation. Let's do that.

That's what we want to do. So make sure, make it feel hip. Cobra Kai style does not work for Willow. Talk about Rubik's cubes. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. But like I said, I will say, the second episode to me plays really well. I'm going to see how the third one comes to do. There's some really great moments in it.

But I don't know. I thought this interview was really. telling. All right, and that's the end of the show, everybody. Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate you. Thank you for everything. This is going to be a long week, a good week, a fun week. We've got Avatar. I'm going to see Avatar tomorrow. I'm going to have my out of the theater reaction tomorrow. So make sure you check that out on the channel. We've got a lot of shorts on the channel. I've been working on that, whether it's my Instagram and working, I'm doing the TikToks, doing all of it. So make sure you check that out. Apple Podcast, Spotify, get yourself one of those shirts,

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