The Kristian Harloff Show - The Mandalorian Season 3 Episode 2 SPOILER DISCUSSION | Mines Of Mandalore

Episode Date: March 9, 2023

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at Star Wars Celebration. We got the panel breakdown of the main panels and big announcements as far as when everything is happening. But inside of the announcements of films, the Lindelof one is still Vegas odds, the one to be announced. But what we do know, at least from a report from Variety, it looks like that Patty Jenkins movie, not happening. We predicted that.

Kevin Feing movie ain't happening. We thought that might happen. Tycoeatidi still happening, apparently. And now he's going to co-star in the movie. Didn't see that one coming. We'll discuss it at length. But we'll talk a little bit about Bad Batch and more. But it is Sith Council.

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It's Steph. It's Mike. It's Sith Council, everybody. Let's do it. You ready? I'm ready. Welcome back, everybody. Sith Council.

Myself, Darth Sabraugh. Hello? Kalnowski's back. Off center. I like it. Yeah. All right. Is that better?

Much. You're so avant-garde. I was trying to get to step here. You know what's crazy? What's that? You chrived up a little bit here? You watched the Bad Batch episode, and Steph didn't. You make it sound like I'm a bad student.

You are. No, he's making... One time I didn't watch it. I knew I had to ketchup. I had to make up because I wasn't here last week. Yeah. I had ketchup. You got ketchup on a burger or on...

I always have ketchup on a burger. Good for you. I like that. I like that. Of course. Of course. Well, Steph, I got to see at Kate Mulligan's birthday party. Yes.

It was fun. It was fun. I thought that. That was a great birthday. We tried to get stuff to do karaoke. She wouldn't do it. Okay, can I talk to you guys? I'm talking to you at home.

So karaoke is for people like me who can't sing, right? So I'm there. Everyone's trying to egg me on by everyone I mean Christian to sing. Then little do I know, Christian Brett, Brett's wife, who is as hot as we've all discussed. I didn't know, but it's confirmed now. Kate, everyone goes up. Everyone can sing. Everyone can.

Everyone can see you guys. I'm telling you there's a hoax and I'm wondering. Well, is this a thing like people can sing and I'm the outlier? No, I think you probably can sing. You just didn't really. That microphone I think made people sound better than they really were though, too.

No, Christian, you can sing. Brett can actually sing. Now, did you guys have songs that you know your karaoke go-chips? No, you know what's funny as I was driving there and Tom Petty's, and I'm got, I have beef with, with, what's her face? I don't know. was a freaking, oh my God, I can't,

Dorina. You got to be with Darina. He's like, I got feet with her. No, because I said, I said, Mary Jane's last dance is what I want to say. She goes, actually his last chance is Mary Jane. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure,

that's the name, that's how you sing it, but it's pretty sure it's called Mary Jane's last dance. And it's exactly what it's called. Anyway, so I was driving to, it took me about an hour to get there. Okay. And on my,

on my phone, it pops, up and that song starts out. I'm like, let me try that tonight. And so I did, that was my first one. I did Mary Jane's last dance. You drive it through the valley singing in your cari. Yeah. I didn't know it was a karaoke thing. That song? Oh, you knew the party. Yeah, and then I reread the and then you saw that. I said that. I wouldn't practice. Yeah, did Werewolf of London? I don't know that song. You do know the song. You do know the song. You're in color of money? Yeah. And his hair was perfect. Come on. Tom Cruise? Yeah. Sing a little. No right now. Okay. And then, and then the other, and then, and then,

Brett and I decided at the middle of nowhere, we sang, what's it called? Down by the school yard, the me and Julio down by the school. No, that's not, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's a lie. That you sung that song because I'm like, I don't know. Down by the school yard.

It was, if you'd be my bodyguard. Now that I know. That's the one we said. Oh, yeah. And that one, I don't know how we did that, but we did. Isn't that one of Garf uncle? It's, it's Paul Simon, but not a garb. But let me ask you this because you're a kid of the 80s.

Yeah. What comedian appeared in that, in that video? Only Ken Napsok got this correct. Wait a second. I think I do remember this. Inside of that video, which comedian is side by side the whole entire time? I'll give you, so I'm trying to guess.

I had my go-to, but. You can go to guess, and then I can give you, or I can give you the four choices now. Well, now two choices are in my head, because I remember around the time, I'm leaning out of my second choice. So do you want to hear, do you want to hear the four choices? Give me your choices.

I'll tell you what about that. Four choices, are they? And do you know this either? No. All right. So the fortune is Paul Simon singing the song? Who's the comedian? Because he comes in and he starts like doing bongos with him.

Right. So is it, is it Robin Williams, right? Is it Bill Murray? Is it Steve Martin? Or is it Chevy Chase? Chevy Chase. Bill Murray? Chevy Chase is correct.

Yeah. My first choice is John Kane. But then I'm like, I can't. Because he comes in. He like just like puts on like props and he just starts like. It's a great video. Anyway. All right.

There we go. But they're all in Star Wars. Every one of those people. That's not true at all. Welcome back to these. One of them. This is a show of wives. Yeah.

Let's start, let's start with, we're going to start with Bad Patch. Let's do it. We've got a lot to talk about with Mandalorian, so let's start with Bad Patch. Yes, sir. This is a great episode of Bad Patch.

Loved it. Yeah. Loved it. What did you look about? Okay, let me go back a second. Back, this is a couple weeks ago. We were talking about, I think it was the Omega episode, and it was,

where they were mining this stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I said, we, I don't like this. But then I watched, Alex and Molly Damon's Star Wars Explained. They went into a little bit of, something on that. And they really made a good point. Like, this show shows the grief from an orphan's perspective. Yeah. And it's something that I didn't even think about. Right.

Because I'm an old man. And I'm like, I just want to see cool action stuff in my cartoons. And no lightsame. Yeah. And it's like, I was like, oh. So it opened up a whole different way of looking at the stuff with Omega. But that said, this episode, that's right up my alley. It was really good. The entire show is all this. Yeah. I'm on board. I love that. And I think that it was, it's a, well, it's a good move for him also for crosshair and what he does and what he's got to do and the idea that he still got that bit of humanity left, you know? Okay, so I remember last year we talked, season one, we said, does he turn?

What happened? Like, what's his end fate? Now I'm leaning more and more towards that he does turn. Well, you mean, good. Yeah. Yeah, well, he goes back with the gang. We thought he was going to die. Yeah, I think he kind of is.

And it's like saves them dying, but doesn't, but doesn't redeem himself, doesn't come back. He just makes one final thing. But I think now he's going to side up with him. I think so, too. And I think, I mean, I, but I also think this show's going to go on for a while. I don't think I. That's true. Yeah, I think it's going to go on for a while.

I think it's. I just think the show could have been really more my speed if it had been tighter. Like if it was two seasons, eight episodes each with like all the meat, I'd be like, hell yeah, I like this storyline. I still do like it, but it's more like fun. And today there's so much on TV and movies that it's hard to be like. To get excited for it. I'm committed for 16 weeks. I will say the show has gotten significantly better over the last couple episodes.

Like last week's episode was really good. This week's episode was really good. And I agree with what you're saying is that I wish some of the side missions was just cut it out or put it in like a small portion of the other ones because what they're really focusing in on the story itself is fantastic. Yeah. The clones and all the, it's working. Absolutely. Yeah. It's great.

And it also shows their bond of what they have to do. And they, this was the most emotional, especially what, you know, at the very end, the way that they're kind of treated like trash. The two things hit me. One is like, oh, man, this isn't, this is what we're guarding, regarding armor for the stormtroopers and not even for us. And then you see the helmet and this kind of snow. And then that one scene with him was May Day. And he's sitting there basically dying in his arms.

Yeah. I was like, that's great. That's great. It was awesome. Storytelling. And like he doesn't really want to be there. He doesn't like being talked to. by this guy, but he's still there following his orders.

And, you know, the other guys are like, yeah, listen, man, we're doing our thing over here. And you get to see that they're so disregarded now, and it makes you feel for them in general. And I thought this was absolutely a great job by Dee Bradley Baker, by the way around. That's what I'm glad you brought that up. Because I was thinking it's like, oh, he's doing all these guys.

Like he does probably every clone, he shows up. He does, but they're vastly different. Yeah, that's incredible. It's really good. So, I mean, I would say that this is, this season, even though last week you and I talked about, we asked the audience if we should still even cover it. And a lot of the audience said, yeah, you should for sure if you're enjoying watching it.

And I said to myself, I am enjoying watching. And I am like, it is one of those things where I'm not going to go as in depth as we will in Mandalorian obviously. But like this is, I think that this season to me is better than last. I think that season two is better than season long. Yeah. And again, this wasn't like a, like we talked about like the adventure of the week missions when he was with Omega doing random tasks. They're getting away from that. But this was also kind of just. It didn't really advance the plot much.

Oh, I don't know. It might. In the grand scheme, but for just a standalone episode, I just enjoyed it. Yeah, I just did. I do think it's going to advance the plot significantly because of what we're... I guess with Cross-Hare is. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

I'm sorry. That's kind of bland. But anyway, so what did you guys think? Did you like the episode Genealog? Are you watching it? Are you done with it? Because like Steph, you know, like, Mandalorian, it's also one of those crazy questions of,

they have, now they have two Star Wars things on at the same time, which doesn't usually happen. That was weird. So are you guys watching both? I mean, some people are ecstatic to have both, you know, Bad Batch and Mandalorian at the same time. But let's call it what is. Mando's the only game in town for as far as the,

what the hardcore, and everybody's watching right now. And that's Mando. And it starts off on Tatooine. So first of all, Mike, you know, what did you think of last week? Ah,

I didn't want to talk about it now. You want to talk about it on the Star Wars show? That makes sense. Yeah. No, because I'll get crap for it. I'll get crap because I got in crap for it. I thought it was fine. A lot of people thought that.

It's interesting because I, you know, I love to look at, I don't look at Twitter the night when I watch. I watch it at midnight. You watch it in the next morning. You're screaming at the clouds. I don't, I watch it the next, go to Twitter the next one because I love to see that whatever, because there's the hyperbole of it's the greatest star, that's peak. Right, right. Back in true form kind of doing it to dig it in Andor. And I watched it.

And I'm like, okay, my point was. is. I'm going to give you two points real quick. I think I'm going to agree with one of these points. I thought nothing we saw in that episode we had not seen before in season one or two. That was the point. We saw what? That was one of the points is to catch people up who haven't seen Boba Fett. No, no, no.

He's talking about season one and season two is the same type of repetitive piece. It was just like, okay, we've got a group of people fighting a big beast. Yeah. We've got Bowen and did talking about Mandelorian. We've got Grogu and a cute little thing. have some cute interaction. We got... Similar beats from the past.

Yeah, it was just like beat for Mando fighting pirates somewhere. It was just like a cool space battle. Everything we had seen we saw one and two. Now here's my big one and two. Season one and season two. Oh, okay. Combined.

So here's my thought. Sure, sure. What I thought would have happened. I think the mistake was, I think we should have never seen Grogu in Book of Bobafet. Didn't, sure. Let him do adventures on his own.

I think the, Mando Grogo reunion of Boba Fett should have been episode one of Mando Season 3. Yeah, maybe so. And then the season next one they go to Grief Carga and then three is what we got now. Sure. It would have made Boba Fett better and it wouldn't have been like, oh, it's Mando 2.5. Maybe.

And then the whole back, because I missed that talk about that, the backtracking of the, it's been two years since he's been training with Luke and they're like, okay, no, this ain't flying. Well, here's another fix that I think because what you could have done, I talked about this on the spoiler review today is I think it was a massive mistake to not do one of two things. Either release episode one and two at the same time is what they should have definitely done or combine one into into a hour and 15 minute episode like the different last of us when you start with last of us are 15 hour, 20 minutes. Because if you put episode two with episode one, that's a freaking good episode. Yeah.

Like I liked one a lot because, because you know the thing is, though, Brett and I saw it in the theater. We saw one and then we saw two right afterwards. In the theater, though. So they showed you two of them. They showed one and two. So I watched them one and two back to back. So I was like, okay, yeah, because I think that if I would have just left that night after seeing that first one, I would have been like, okay, what happens next? Right.

But the fact that I had seen two, it elevated one for me. And this week, again, watching two, elevated one for me. With Mando, I was going to say this. There's not going to be a bad episode. There won't be. They're just too good at what they do. And the characters are too good. We enjoy them.

So seeing it, it's fine. It's great. He's back. Well, what do you think of two? Come on. Yeah,

right. Come on. Yeah, so, so you didn't get a chance to see it last week. You saw it this week. You lost your mind, right? Oh, my gosh.

You've watched it three times, right? Yeah, I watched it. So that's why I didn't watch bad bad, y'all. It's not because I'm not committed to the game. I'm so committed. I watched Amanda three times.

So talk us through. I'm going to play some of these pictures and you talk us through. Okay. Yeah. So I like starting here because we're kind of seeing it's bringing back Boba Fett and we're also probably going to get Cobbant. I'm assuming I think. I think we're out of that.

I think this is the last time we, I mean, maybe we pop by one more time, but I think we're pretty much out of it. I hope anyway. Yeah. But please, go ahead. So I first was like, okay, why did we fight so hard for to come back here so that we can restructure the droid memory for her. her to be like, oh no, all we have is this R5 unit.

Right. But I think we'll figure that out later in the game. I trust in them. But I think that the R5 callback is a great Easter egg to the New Hope. Mm-hmm. And seeing that. And I saw this cool article that was talking about how there is a non-canon comic on R5, who apparently was a force-sensitive droid who knew that R2D2 should be.

go with them. So he... Klu himself up. Oh, God. It was a fanfic. But, okay, I, yeah, I like this. I don't mind Amy Siddars' character. I think you guys have learned to like her. Did she lose a tooth?

Maybe. I think so. I think she had a tooth. I don't think she had it in Bobafet either. You don't? I couldn't remember, but I ride for her. I think she's a funny character. She's gotten...

Rotted away on Tatooine. I think we both kind of, when she, when she's, She first showed up, it was a little jarring because it's clearly just Amy Sedaris in a Star Wars outfit. With a wig. Now I believe that she's there. Now I believe that she's in this. And it's kind of like you're expecting it like when he shows up at these places. But I agree with you on the R4 part of it all is that this is why the IG11, this is also.

I agreed with you more last week because you were like that part was a little overdone. And then I was like, if they don't do anything with IG 11, then what? That's like 10 minutes of showtime that we're wasting to this. They're going to do something. They're going to happen. Especially now with this Tykin, of course they're going on. Yeah, okay. So with IG11.

But so the memory thing is fried. If he gets a new memory thing, it's not IG11 anymore. I want it to be like vision. I want it to be like vision. That's what I hope happens. Like they take it. But I don't know what they're, because like someone made a point. Like if you're, the memory's gone.

So you're getting a new memory core. So when you put it in, it's not going to be, it's not going to be, it's not going to be any memories of your guys interaction in him saving Grogo. No, but he'll be a nurse droid still. But he's an assassin. isn't he? No, that's why they're trying to reboot it. So he's a nurse droid. That's why I think it's too...

Why don't you just go get a nurse droid? It's so silly that they're bringing IG 11 back. I think it's the worst decision so far. Because of all the deal that they have with him in that it was a popular character. It's so silly to bring him back. He blew himself up in a great episode of the sacrifice of it all. And they built this... It's like there's a million different droids that there.

I saw somebody trying to make... Well, the reason why is because Dinn didn't trust a lot of droids. But now he trusted... But he trusts... R4 pretty fast and brings garbage droid with them. And, you know, so I think it's a, that choice itself. But you say what they do with that. But he's, yeah, okay, he trusts him.

That's what this guy's saying. He's like, but if you get a new memory thing, it's not going to be the memory to trust. How can you trust it? But either way, though, he does. But he does trust again with droids and he goes to stuff and he's, and now he finds R4. And A, R4, I love the kind of the difference between him and R2. R2 is like, yeah, let's fight. Who do we got?

What's the mission? Let's do it. This goes like, nah, I don't want to go. I'm good. Yeah, you're just kind of hiding in the background. Yeah, I feel that. I really feel it. So any time we said you had to play Smets.

Yeah. The lion, the witch, and the audacity of this bitch over here. Jesus. I got to send that to Smets. Oh, you don't. He's up in his penthouse in the sky. He's living the life of the Jefferson's over there. Yeah, that is a nice view.

What a dated reference that I loved. You got it, well, did you? Well, well done. You got it. I'll show you the other day. We did a live stream here that you know was playing in the background. Leberne and Shirley. Hey, I know that.

Lenny and Squiggy. You and me. That's right. It's you and Brett. Listen to me. So we got to continue moving on. And I like the idea that he just goes there because what I was worried about was what's that? They shows up here and we're going to get another episode of tattooing.

Yes. And it's like it is nothing to do in tattooing, but we have spent so much time in tattooing in both Mandalorian and Boba Fett. We're like not another tattooing mission. And then they go, nope, we're just there to pick up. this stink droid and then out we go, celebration. Hurray. Can you guys explain to me, though, something?

Because I'm missing this. Where they putting Grogu's pod in that thing? Where the hell's that thing fit? It's a little thing. There's undercarriage. The pod for me has, like, really set me off. Where's he take a dump? Where's he sleep?

Ask him. He's coming on next week. Actually, you know who's coming on next week? It's supposed to come on today, but the studio is still in shambles. It's Brendan Wayne. Who? Brendan Wayne? Ooh, for you.

Well, Din has to shower. That's awesome. Didn't have to shower and poop too. Yeah, so where's Din going to shower and poop? I don't know. Next home. I miss the Razor crest. Yeah, you don't like this ship.

But the thing is, the razor crest takes too long to get there. This thing gets there and half a day. I get that. Now he's a father. He's not a bounty hunter. So you have a more sensible vehicle. It's sensible. No, it's not.

There's no place for him. Okay. So the celebration is happening on this planet. Groguu loves the fireworks. You know what I like about Grogu also is the fact that you don't you definitely have these cute moments like him where he's still kid and he's looking out at the celebration all that. But he's evolving as a character. He's doing more. Like even in that scene with Tatouin when he jumps into Amy Sedaris's arms and she's like, whoa, he's kind of growing up.

And it's like that's that you need to do that. Because you can't have the same series of the whole time. He's like, uh-oh, baby girls are in trouble and now Dyn needs to save him. He's like, no, he's been training with Luke for a little bit. He can, uh, two years. Yeah. He can do his thing. I liked how last episode, Dinn was like,

Mandalorians need to be great navigators, and he was showing him Bo Catan's place, which is a great callback for this episode. We saw it why he would know that. We're not just like expecting Grobu to have this knowledge. He's learning. He's learning it. Yeah, and he's smart, and he can figure out how to do it,

and he's paying attention to it all, and that's what, as they show up, and I mentioned this again in the spoiler review this morning, someone tweeted me out this morning, like, what exactly blew you away about this episode? And I said, I don't know, all of it? There was freaking awesome. There was so much of it.

First of all, how about the fact that we get to see Mandelor in live action? Right. Which is incredible. I mean, I know we showed the little scenes. I like the design of it. I love that. I forgot what the way they talked about, the crystallized. The emerald crystals.

But like the whole planet was made of that stuff. Did you get empire vibes here, Mike, when like the Empire Strikes back? Like, right, this part right here. Oh, when he's going to dig about it. Yeah. It was just, it was just, it's just nice to see a different planet. It was really incredible. It was great to see Mandelaar again because we haven't, and for Clone Wars and Rebels fans,

we haven't seen it like this. Yeah. We had seen it in all its glory. And so when Bo's talking about it, we get what she's talking about. And then this is, you know, a very different version of it, even though it's sunny out and it's clear, it's still barren. Honestly, to me, when I saw that, it gave me vibes of Krypton. Yeah, for sure. But it was being irradiated where, like, it's a waste land.

Yeah. Granted, it's flying chunks. I know. but it had Krypton survived a little bit more. It just felt like that. And I don't know if that was unintentional because a lot of times when people are designing stuff, they want to bring references from different things to give a perspective that you can kind of latch it into. I think a lot of this episode had different callbacks to sci-fi and horror franchises.

Yeah, it did. So as we moved on to a little bit more here, and he shows up and he's, and what this is going to do, by the way, I think anyway, maybe I'm wrong, but it sets up. up, the whole point is Dink is going there to try to, you know, bathe his balls in the water, right? And he's going there the whole time. But he's going there and he's got to send trash pot out first for a second to go. He doesn't take it a drink. These droids deserve more from trash pot.

Piss pot and trash pot. But trash pot's got to go out and he's got to go do his thing. And he's like, okay, go out and find out what's happening. And he's like, okay, good. I hope no, you know, big land of the lost kind of monkey creatures try to rub their. It was. Sacks on my head. That's what it was. I was like, why do these look so familiar?

That's right. But Grogu is, he's staying in the middle, in the navigation system, all that. But what it sets up, because once Dins, I go, let me go see if I can breathe out in this place. Got to go find trash bot. And he does. And this shot, they show like five different times. And I love that. Because it's a great shot.

I was going to say I love that every time they showed it. Love that every time they showed it. But he's on his way in there. And, you know, this is when the land of the loss. peeps come in. Yeah. But this shot, though, this was the one that did it for me. Okay, so now what am I looking at?

I know it's the Civic Center, but have you seen this in its glory? Yeah. We saw it like, rebels? Clone Wars. I mean, I would suggest you going back and watching some of those episodes. I'm so backed up on these damn things. But I'm just saying, go to what I've said. Like you said.

It says essential episodes. Did you watch episode, uh, Bad Batch, the newest one? Oh my God. It did it because you got backed up with lots of stuff. But listen, this is, you see it in all its glory. And it's also one of the reasons I love. hearing Bo talk about her past because she's talking about how she's a royal. I think that's why I want to see what you think when you watch it because now that you have,

you have the hit, you heard the history first from her as where we got to watch the history first. And now so, Faloni, he created Mandelor and all of the, he didn't create Mandelor. But but the elaborated on it. Elaborated with the legacy and the, in the, all the different facts. Him and George. George. George did a hand in hand. George was very much involved in Clone Wars. But the Clone Wars was what it was.

Like this is where it's coming from. Yeah. It's like the Night Watch. Yeah, it's like the... Death Watch or Night Watch? Death Watch. It's one of the most important plot points. If not.

The Owls. Who's the Owls? Night Watch isn't, I don't know. I was forget. Death Watch Night Watch. Yeah. People are going to correct this. I know.

Please correct me. Yeah. But either... Anyway. Go ahead. Yeah. The shots that they used a few times, because they had Bow and Din doing the same move,

going down. Yep. And I was like, hell yeah. It wasn't repetitive. It was like cool to watch them both be Mandalorians. Yes. And that line that we got in the trailer, oh, you thought your dad was the only Mandalorian?

And by the way, did you guys notice that? I'm glad you brought that up because they only showed, if you go, have you guys watched the first trailer since these have come out? Mm-mm. I went back and watched the first trailer. I think I watched it right before episode one. So go back and watch it now. 90% if not 95% of it, which I love,

is from episode one and episode two. I think the only thing we haven't seen is the Mandalorians dropping out of that ship. The only thing I know, because today was that episode of the ship kind of flying over Mandalore, the great line that she said. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of it was, yeah, it's like 95% of it.

You're absolutely right. It was like the only parts there, a couple parts were like more of the Mandalorians. I thought maybe, because I remember thinking, seeing all the Mandalorians, Maybe that was from the opening episode one. And it wasn't. It's from something different.

Just that drop ship thing. Yeah, but they don't give a lot away. I think it's great. What I also hope that they do is this episode was 45 minutes long. Please stay with that. It was so great. It was a great. It was he accomplished a lot.

Yeah, I thought, and also speaking about the trailers, I thought Bo and Din were going to be head-to-head hating each other the entire season. I love the fact that it looks like they're partnering up. Yeah, because, well, because I think that as we, go through it and then let's we can get back into this as he he he discovers mandolary and then remember this is the first time the two of them both him and beau are looking at this view very differently yes this is the first thing he's ever seen of mandolars so he lived on the moon next to it yeah so he is his imagination is going what it possibly could have looked like but he's got no reference

except this is what it looks like now and i can use my imagination to see it and then you got chuckles coming and jumping down here ready to scrap and and if you think about it they're they're kind of in the right here because they've been this is their home now right and you've got some jerk off coming hanging out but he takes out the saber and I love this I love this he still cannot figure out how to use this thing and you know he's still able to swing it around and he and he chops up a few of them but he's exhausted doing it heavy and it's not working right with the dark saber because he makes it seem like, oh, this is just heavy. But Bo's flipping that thing around like...

Do you remember from Boba Fett, though? Do you remember BobaFitt, what the armorer says? Remember the armor's training? Right, and the training on the thing. There's a, you have to, like, is it a fluidity to it? It's a fluidity. Yeah, you have to kind of feel it.

Yeah, you have to kind of feel it. You have to know, because Bo, and this is what I had mentioned earlier today, is that Bo has been training with this thing for years. Bo has known it from her history, and then once Sabine gave it to her and rebels, she's had time with it, so she knows how to use it, and she knows how to almost make it, like an extension of herself.

Okay, okay. Where Din has not figured that out, which totally makes sense. It's a caveman with that thing. This is years and years and years of having it for her and knowing it. And she said you have to find peace with yourself. That's right. Oh, he's not a piece of himself. Yeah, Bo knows who she is.

She feels good with like her place with the Creed and Mandelor. He's like, oh, I need to go in the waters again. He doesn't feel sure of himself. Exactly. Yeah. And so this is, so as we continue. Which is like, that's why I love this episode. there's like a full on hero's journey.

It really is. For both of them. Yeah. For both of them. Yeah. And even, and Grogu, too.

Yeah. And then as you are moving through and he takes these things out, he gets, you know, trash bought to go with them. And then they, they show up to, and they get Grogo.

Okay, look, this, this to me is a crucial scene that I think will be talked about forever. For this season anyway, I should say forever. This one, he says it is, this is what I think the show is all about.

He says, Mandelior is livable. You can breathe on it. It's not toxic. It's not in peril. So we need to, I'm going to go bathe and then we'll figure it out. I think that's the whole storyline is now that we know the Bo comes in and Bo helps him out, Beau saves him from the,

from the watery bays, all those shots that we're seeing of the Mandalorians and everything too, I think that because Bo's going to be teaming up with him, I think her section of people who left, but remember what she said to him? She was like, you have that dark saber that follow you. They're coming back. I think that the zealots are going to follow because now he's going to be a mandoloring again. They're coming back. They're going to reestablish Mandelor.

He's going to ride the Mithesore. They're going to bring them, or him or Grogo. And they're going to bring them to Mandelor and they're going to reestablish Mandelaar. Because if they read what you could do with this show now. But what's the conflict then? That's what I'm saying. Where's the conflict coming from? Tons of conflict.

If you do it, first of all, as they're setting up, whether the, whether the, Remnants of the Empire and Gideon can show up and have another war and they finally get their revenge on them and the Mandalorians can get their revenge on Gideon for destroying their world. That's probably something that could happen for sure. But what you could, because Favro just had a conversation recently where he said, this is not, we don't even have an end game yet for where this is going. Imagine if you started, I know everybody uses this reference with Game of Thrones now too, right? But if you start to establish a Mandalorian planet, well, yeah, everybody's hunky dory and establishing and settling now

as they start to reestablish the planet. But as the seasons go on, if there starts to be conflict within again, or, because remember what she says, Beau says in this episode is that the thing I want to get past is all of us fighting within each other. And so what if the irony in that is it takes them all to come back together,

fight together to reestablish Mandelor, and then seasons upcoming, those start to crack. Or who knows? Or maybe it sets up something down the line in the Lindelhoff era and all these different areas where this is a new established thing. I don't know what do you think, stuff. Yeah, I've been thinking about that because I don't know where the seasons will lead off,

but I think the main conflict right now would be with Moff and his destruction of the planet. But I do think it will be centrally focused on bringing them back together, but there's got to be some conflict between the armor and the zealots and Bose people because they... They don't see eye to eye. So there will be some conflict there, I think, before. I hope. I mean, because what I don't want, I don't want it to turn into the biggest criticism that we have with Badbatch, right?

And that's the side mission episodes. Right, right, right, right. It doesn't need to be side mission episodes because they're establishing Mandelaar again. I mean, that place is in ruins, but if they could get everybody back to reestablish that planet again, because, like I said, this scene right here, this shows that you can live there, you can live there again. You can, you, it's not, it's not toxic.

It's, you're able to live. there again, so should they reestablish it? Because remember, the armor didn't think that it was. The armor was like, no, it's not, it doesn't look like it's, you're going to be in trouble if you go back there because it's not inhabitable, it is. And, you know, one of the reasons they have all those

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They are really, you know, trying to now move through this massive city. You got kind of Force Awakens vibes with the, you know, when she was in the big, was it not the Star Destroyer or whatever she was in, remember in the first Force Awakens, episode seven, you know. Yeah. I got kind of like that kind of feel. No, all right. Well, then.

Were they living inside a mountain? Is that what this is? Or was it? No, it was just an established city, man. I know that, but why is it, why did, why did he go down the crack into the ground to go down there? I don't have to tell you. It's a, it was a big, it's destroyed. It's destroyed.

Okay, it's destroyed, but is it? No more elevators. But is it in a mountain? I'm not sure. You know what I want to do that? Is it a hidden? No, no. It's good questions, but you know.

I'm asking the, I'm asking geography here. No, totally. I don't, I don't know. We always saw like in the castles and like in the, like, so never showed you outside shots. I don't think so. I don't think so. I do. I want to go back and watch and check it out maybe there is.

But this is the one. I'm definitely going to be watching like Alex Damon's video here because I want to know if this is just some random helmet or this is actually a helmet from somebody. Yeah, like a character. Well, I thought it was going to be when the trailer came out, there was speculation that it was Vislas or the one who wielded the Dark Sabre and joined forces with the Jedi.

But then I think that it might have just been a throw-off in the trailer and it was just a bait from the creature. And I think that's probably what it was. Because they set you up to maybe even us think that, like, well, who the hell is that? What is that? And then the next thing you know, he's getting, it had a, this moment here had a, not only returned the Jedi feel to me, but it had a feeling of the Ewak movies, the escape from Endor and all that, like when the family gets captured.

Because this thing was creepy. It was really creepy. Really creepy. Can I say two things? Yeah. One, did you guys notice, and I watch this on my TV, but I have a big window behind me and the blinds were open, so it was a little bit like, what am I looking at? But then I went online, a lot of people were complaining about how dark this episode was. It was dark.

I mean, yeah, it was, it was dark. I mean, like some of the, even some of the shots that I pulled here was dark. Yeah, even when we were looking here, I'm like, but that said, my other thing. They were in a cave, though. I know. Yeah. I know. Yeah.

I didn't have a problem. This creature design. Great, wasn't it? one of the best creatures I've seen in Star Wars. Because we get so used to, like, just let your imagination one while. Then we see a big bloated kidney stone, you know, floating by and tattooing or something. But this, I don't know if it was because of how creepy it was or how inventive it was. One of the best creatures I've seen in Star Wars.

I love this thing. It was really cool. It was. It was very horridous. It was. Him draining him and looking like he drained a bunch of band of bands. But then it's like an eye, but is it like. I love it didn't say anything.

Right. It didn't say. I'm going to drain you now And there's nothing you can do, man, though you came back for this, huh? 100%. It was creepier because it didn't say anything. Nothing was just that I.

If it would have done something like Humba die, Kudabba, or something like even, whatever it was in an alien voice or something more like, even like with a whisper, like that,

sure, whatever. It didn't need to. It didn't need anything. It just was creepy draining his blood and like, who knows how many Mandalorians it's done that to.

And it didn't say, oh, so long. You know, it was, It was just, it made it, it made it so much more terrifying. You're all good on my wall. Can you imagine if that stupid thing would have just did like an alien voice or anything

to, oh, I hate that dumb thing. I know. Yeah, but I wonder if, it looks like he's dead, dead, but he drained a lot of people. Was he just draining that to sustain his own life? Maybe, I mean, whatever it was. And I love that we don't even know. I think, I think he should be over. I think that it was creepy enough.

Yeah, like that's the type of monster design that pops in there, and you're like, okay, that was terrifying. I'm curious because in this episode, there have been so much, we've come up with three of them now, Krypton, the land of the loss, and now this thing, because it teaches you, he's not talking, but that droid starts pumping. And we know when we see those pumps in hospitals, oh, you're pumping blood or something to someone. So the language was there that it didn't need to explain. It didn't need, it was so, it was the production design. And I noticed, this is the director I've never seen before on the show. I never,

I know who she was. She was great. She did a great job. So, and then Grogu Hall's ass, which is again, Oh my gosh. Establishing really, again, how he's more capable now, right? And Jin's more trusting of him. Absolutely.

And he says, go get Bo Katz's hand. And he's like, and then this stupid thing thinks he's got the one up on him. He's like, I got you now. And he's like, yeah, he beat it. And he just tosses him and thinks goes flying. I con. And they showed this in the trailer. and it worked.

It didn't ruin anything for me. I just looked at him. He just got his hand up and he's just like, come on trash, but let's get out of here. So they do and again, and I love that Bo says this too, because you can ask the question,

well, how the hell did he find his way back? And it's like, well, because he's been listening to the navigation. Yeah. And she's like, well, you must have been, you know, she tells him, she said, I hung out with a lot of Jedi.

And you must be using the force because you found your way back to me pretty quick. Yeah. This is my favorite, by the way. So the droid comes in and, and I said this too, Bo hasn't moved. there's no Netflix on in the background there's no like there's no food there's

she's just been sitting there god knows how long she got a pillow and a blanket seasonal depression she's 100% she's got she's look there's nothing around her and she's been sitting in that chair for god knows how long she's got the seasonal deed yeah um but then she pops up and she's like i'm about to whip your ass he's coming back here i told that mother you're not to come back yeah and and i love how she nobody's going to get mad at grogoo so she comes flying back in and she said well where is he and she goes and this This is where the episode just to me takes off and why the show needs to be 45 minutes plus because it allows you to establish, okay, Dyn got there.

He said he had his mission, he got caught. Now let's give the episode of Bowen Letter and let the other Mandalorian shine because this is where Katie just annihilates. Totally. She does a great job here. Yeah, her weapons are so cool. Dyn needs to get one of those shields that she uses because that is very useful. I actually thought you'd say that about the episode.

I thought it was going to stop right there where she's like, where is he? Oh, yeah. And it was like, ba-b-b-b-b-b-m. It was so cool to watch her. Whoever is doing the stunts for her. Yeah. I just thought it was so, like, because we see Dyn and you're like, how could you be more cool? How could you be cooler than Dinn?

And it's like she's so his equal in a lot of ways in the way she moves and handles things. And she took down the three, I forget what they're called, but those three giant figures, quick swacks. Easier than D. I know that in without the dark saber. I know he was trying to use the dark saber and probably could have taken them down easier had he not been using that. But it was cool to be like, watch her have the same problems, but move a little better through them. 100%.

And so she's able to, because she's just, she's more experienced. Yeah. Way more experienced. Been around fighting these fights. And we see Bose got her ship. She takes off. And she lands on Mandelaide. And like it's a very different experience for her.

her showing up here back to where she grew up. Yeah. I mean, this is her, this is her spot. So, yeah, go ahead, Mike. Why is it that the Mandalorians are under the belief that the area is toxic? Why wouldn't none of them go and do what Dinn's doing? They just were like, we've been told this forever like it is. We've seen it.

She has been saying that. Remember she told, she told him it's not toxic because she says it's not cursed. People are like, you're crazy. Right, it is going to be. So let's go back. That was the whole kind of conversation in that first. that first episode because she's, that's why she's so bummed that she's like nobody's, she's just had, I guess she's had so many opportunities to try to lead them to the

Glory Land a couple different times, even when Mandelorian, Mandelor was intact. And she's just failed. She's failed so many times that they, they've given up on her and she doesn't have the Dark Sabre anymore. So she's, that's why the seasonal depression, as you say, because she's just bummed. But that's why I think that this is going to, she's teaming up with Din and she's going to, they're both going to lead them together. At least that's what it seems like.

We each each section together. Yeah, it's a really interesting contrast between the two because he didn't grow up on this specific planet. And when she was like, you haven't had pork soup. That was amazing. This is what every Mandalorian has grown up. Is it actually pork soup? I think so, right? I don't know.

Maybe I just made that up. But I, some sort of soup that every Mandalorian has eaten. And it's like, was it a pog soup? Pog soup. That's what it was great. You want to meet those little porks? Yes. I'm with her.

Jesus. Yeah. Why not? Why not? A little side eye that she gives Grogu also. Yeah, she's funny to Grogu. I like their relationship. But that he's the one who's so gung-ho about the true Mandalorian Creed.

And she's the one who's been actually raised in it her entire life. And it's like, I think that's an interesting depiction of religion in general or in like how distance can sometimes make you grow stronger in that because you're further away from it. And you need to cling on to faith a little bit. harder and I think that they're both going to question each other throughout the episode throughout the season but the Mithosaur part was interesting because she's like you're being weird you also didn't believe me that this place was livable and then she goes down and it's like oh wait this part of it is true right and and then so we'll get and we should get to that too because there's a lot of people have questions of like how what we can talk about now now Mando when he goes

into the waters finally after she because she was she will let's get this she rescues him she goes there and she's in the caves and she's again giving us, this is why we had mentioned this many times over with different shows and why they didn't do this in BobaFed or Obi-Wan and they do it here. And that is you have a little bit more time and instead of the big action pieces, you're following on the characters and you're giving them more to learn

for us to learn about. So for those people who didn't watch Clone Wars and didn't watch rebels, you probably learned a significant amount about Boe through this episode. Sure, absolutely. I was just seeing the screen grabs you're doing here. And again, I know they're on a soundstage. I know they're in the volume, but I can't tell. This is a good use of it.

This was a great use of it. It's amazing how some of the shows are all together, but it's vastly different between several shows that use that. This feels like you're on this planet. It just, I don't know. I don't know if they've got their top tier guys work on this show, Like the B, the B cruise? I don't think so.

This was a mixture of, like, the set itself and blending the set plus the volume and using it a spectacular way. And the underwater, I don't know how they did that. It was great. But it looked great. You don't question it for a second. Like, what technique are they using for this to do this? Are they on a sound stage? Are they in a water tank?

It just looks great. It looks really, really good. And I think. And so as she's giving you more information about herself and you're learning more about, you know, for people who didn't watch the shows. And if you did watch it, you're kind of getting rewarded a little bit more because you know, exactly what the hell she's talking about. She's talking about her royal family. And then she's looking at this thing very different than Dinn was looking at it.

She's looking at it. She's looking at it. She has got memories about this place. She's got, this is, this is the, it is a fall of Rome. I know, but it is very weird to me when she talks about, we ruled this land. We ruled this. Yeah. Like, were they benevolent rulers or were they?

It was a mixture, man. With an iron fist. It was a mixture. Because I see this and I see a tyrant. It was a mixture. The way she talks, I'm like, you want to bring a tyrant back. And this ain't good. This is coming from a guy who doesn't know this history.

She ran it different ways. And there was a time when, like, remember, Darth Mall ran this joint for a little while. And the joint? Yeah, he ran. I don't know a lot of this stuff. He ran, he ran, he was, yeah, he was on the throne for a vet. Half your guy's legs back. Yes.

And Darth Mall, I mean, so like the end. When Palpatine was trying to. Yeah, and Mandelor. And Mandelor was. And this is all in Clone Wars. Yes. And the Mandalorians were following him. And it was, I mean, that's, I want to go back and watch all that stuff again, too.

So, okay. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to finish at least this season. And then I'm going back in water. Because I've kind of been, whenever I got some time throwing another episode, another episode. But now I see this. I want to do the opposite of what you guys did, see all this from their perspective, and go back to it. Yeah. Yeah.

She originally was like all about war. Yep. She seems like a tiring. She was. Her sister, Satine was the one Obie one was in love with. Yeah. Satine? No, no.

That's Sabine. So Satine was a pacifist. She didn't believe in war. And so they almost like their family had. a lot of issues within each other because one was a pacifist she's a this war monger right and but by the time setine died she both started becoming more peaceful yeah so she's kind of in this mixture of i think she would be a good ruler yeah and and bo and um and sabine had a good relationship sabine actually gave her the dark saver and then um and osoka and uh and bo have a good relationship as well

and she the whole line about we used to work with the jetting we used to be get along with them so i'm like that was a really cool that a history that I didn't know. Well, remember they did that final scene of Clone Wars. They brought it back on Disney Plus, and the whole end is Bo Catan and Asoka and leading into the split and all that. Bo Catan's the one who finds Asoka after, you know, and brings her back into the fray.

So, but yeah, so we get, we get that whole shot of her just kind of looking down there and, and then this is just where to show you the bow that we know from from that time. she she she's just she she takes out some of those stupid things pretty easily and she's like throwing hands with those things but then she gets to this creepy this creepy thing and this is where you get a chance to see that pipe and it was so it was gnarly looking like that that tube right it's got the all the gook on it and all that shit um and the dark saber's sitting there she picks it up and this is just i mean this this was again such a fun geek out moment for star wars fans yeah it was it's it's such a fun geek out moment. Like, she's, she's wheeled in this thing and she takes it out fairly easy.

I mean, you know, she has a couple stumbles here and there, but takes it out. The thing tries to come back, but she wipes out, and that shot alone. I mean, it's so good. It was so terrifying. And then, you know, she could bail on them, but she's already there. And she says, oh, yeah, I'll take you to the freaking, the, to the bath. And she does. They get there. But like you said, step, it's this moment. Oh, the soup moment here, too. when he takes off his helmet. I can't remember, Mike, was it you last week? I think, no, it wasn't last week, but he, if he's still,

if he's not a Mandalorian right now, and he's going to be a Mandalorian once he bathes, let me just take his helmet off, leading up to it. Because Pedro's a busy man right now. That's Pedro was a busy man. That's true. And speaking of that real quick, I love the fact that the season is now giving equal credit to the other two guys.

They're in the main credits at the beginning of every episode. Good, yeah. Of the Tief Crowder and. Brennan went. Yeah. So they get their names on the thing, which I think is fantastic. Right.

They've accepted that. And Pager's always been like, yeah, it's the three of us doing it. And that's what I want to talk to Brendan about next week is that, you know, there's like episodes like this. I just want to, he probably, he probably tells us about the water stuff. And he did most of that. I'm sure you do a lot of it. He does the stunts. Brendan's the one who's doing the walk and the swagger and all that stuff too.

So, I mean, why wouldn't you get John Wayne's family to do? Yeah, for sure. Okay. So they do get, they finally, and you get more, this is the conversation as, you start to build this kind of friendship between Bo and Dinn as they're walking through. And she's telling him all that history. She's telling them about her family. She's telling him about her father.

And this is where we get a lot of that information again. And it's not repetitive stuff. She talked to Grogu because we're learning a lot about her inside of this episode. No. And they get there and she reads that Cree off the wall. And she's reading that the entire thing that happened from the first Mandalorian. and then Dinn kind of steps in the wrong spot, just sinks. You know, why he sinks, who knows?

But he sinks all the way to the bottom. Oh, I thought he got pulled. I thought he got pulled. By who? The Mithosaur. Mithsor. He looked like he was sleeping. That I thought, and I was like, I don't get up there.

Did he have a little tentacle that come out? He, like, fell through or something. Why would he just fall to the bottom? I don't know why he sunk, but he did because, like, he was, something happened to him. He got pulled in because that wasn't, that wasn't the Mithsoror just took him and left him alone? It's like. I was confused about that part. Yeah, but I thought that, I was like, why would you go in if you can't swim?

Yeah. He sunk. I don't know if he had his jetpack on or not, but he sunk all the way through as the Mithosaur. Because the Mithsor just seems to be chilling. He doesn't be bothering anybody. And then it ends with her just kind of looking off to it. And then Rachel Morrison obviously gets the credit for it. But I think it was, yeah, it was pretty fantastic episode.

How come then, may I ask, in episode, was season one when, uh, did, then kills that one creature, and they brand the Mithosaur on his armor, right? That's on Mithosaur? That wasn't a Mithosaur? No, that was the thing that he, that's the Manderlors. The thing that he fights, that, remember that he fights that thing? Okay. That's not a Mithsore.

No, Mithethor's like three times the size of that thing. I thought that face, because the Manderlors, they've had that, the Mithosaur. Yeah, because remember, well, because what's the, Crill says to him, he's in all of him. Yeah. And he's, remember that stuff when, when Krill is talking to him and says, like, it's a rumor that you had fought the big mythosaur and he knew about he knew all the history about it he's in all of the mandoloreans and so they kind of tie that all back together but i'm loving what they're doing

here man really loving what they're doing i was trying to see if a different like article what different articles wrote about that scene but i haven't seen yeah well next time yeah but um anyway very curious to hear what you guys think about the overall the episode and and we're going to go with this like they They don't show previews for next week's episodes on these, do they? Good. I haven't seen. You like that? Good.

Yeah. I don't want to know anything. Okay. I'll get upset about it. Jesus. I like when they show up coming previews sometimes. Me too. Yeah, let's see what kind of where we're going.

Like with the last of us two episodes ago, the preview, I was like, why is there no Joel? Yeah. Which is a smart. Yeah. And I'm playing that. I'm almost done with the game now. But either way.

So yeah, it's fun. It's really, this episode was great. I hope that they stick to this 45 minute thing, go away from, because the 32 minutes, to me, is cheap.

It's cheap. They can afford it. They can build. And it, it's cheap because it takes away from this episode, I think proves it. It takes away from character building. Yeah.

You have like 10 more minutes and you can add more lines. You can add, like, and I always use that example in Bob. and Obi-Wan, when Obi-1 has that line, about his brother, oh, my God, expand on that. And that was the best character development that did an entire show, and it was lost in a lot of different episodes.

So, we got some more stories, though, man, as we move on past the Mandalorian. Let's talk about Star Wars Celebration, because Star Wars Celebration is coming up. It's right around the corner. Star Wars celebration, and they released the actual panels. And we're not going to go through all the panels, but we're going to go through kind of the ones that are really going to stand out.

And I ask both Mike and Steph as we go through these, obviously they always kick off. So this is usually sometimes it goes Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. This time it's going Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. They always kick off with the big panel. And so Friday and April 7th, Lucas Films Studio Showcase from 11 to 1230, an hour and a half, live on the celebration stage, and it is going to be streamed.

I don't know if there was this report that it wasn't going to be streamed. It's being streamed. and Star Wars Celebration returns launching with a must-see showcase that's going to kick the weekend's festivities into Hyperdrive. Lucasfilm's current crop of live-action filmmakers will be joined by special guests to discuss the many current and upcoming Star Wars adventures, including the Mandalorian and Or and more. Steph, what does that mean?

I don't know exactly what that means, but I think that we're going to get, So it's Mandalorian, Andor and more. I think it will be maybe some discussion about the next seasons and where they're going with it. Specifically with Andor, I don't think that we're going to be getting too much that we don't know about because Mandalorian, it feels like it would be too soon to do that. And then Andor, maybe a trailer for Andor? I think that a trailer for Andor? Oh, no, they're not finished. Yeah, I don't need to even.

No, I mean, a teaser or something, maybe. but probably not probably just more information about when it's coming back maybe yeah that's an release dates the plan for it but i don't i think it's more just like it's an hour and a half though right so mandolarian you would assume i'm i think they're going to have because katy already says she's going to be there right so katie will probably be there it'll be towards the not end yet but it'll be getting towards the end pedro will probably be there they'll probably have a lot of the cast and some crazy moments will probably have happened by the time they get there so the cast will be out there for sure and or will probably be out there for this of the right or you're looking at like half an hour maybe 40 minutes between just those

two lindoloff's coming out so you're starting to change your tune now about that lindloff's coming out and they're going to this is they're going to this is where they announce it and i think oh you think that's the ann more yeah i think because the current crop of filmmakers i think this is where we get our announcement about the film right away right off the bat i'm not happy about this but i think after this report with tyca i think tyca's movies announced as well i think it's i think it's to be the Lindelof movie and the Tyka movie, which I think is a mistake. I think they should just announce the Lindelof movie and say it's going into production then.

Can I just say, though, who told you that the Tyka movie was going to happen? No, you did. It doesn't mean that it's a good move, though. It doesn't mean, well, okay, I rewatch Love and Thunder. I love it, so I'm not upset about this. Yeah. Fair enough. Jesus.

That's just me. That's just me. I get the criticism, but for me it worked. But I agree. The Ann Moore, I think if they're going to kick it off big, then they're going to kick off a movie announcement. I think that that seems like from all the news stories we've been hearing in the past few weeks, a movie is going to be announced and it's going to happen, which we didn't know if it was for sure going to be announced because they were kind of getting their things together. Right.

But I think it is. You think that the Tycoon movie is going to be announced? I think at least one movie is going to be announced. Lindelah has to be announced. Yeah. That has to be the number one movie that's going to be announced. Yeah. It's just the one that seems to furthest along.

If I was going to predict, Mike, I was going to say this, because I can combine both stories here with the reports that are coming out. The reports that you sent as well as a lot of people did once it came out, Patty Jenkins movie, Gonsky. We knew that was coming, right? Ryan Johnson movie, pretty much Gonsky. Even though that wasn't in the report, but it seems from everything he's working on Gonski.

The Faggy movie, Gone. Gone. I think that's because he's focusing on everything he's got to do at Marvel, and then he's going to eventually take over Lucasfilm. I really do think he's going to. And I think by the time he does, that's what I do. And I think that's why he's pulling back on this. But that being said, the Tyco one I thought, and you did too, that one was going to be scrapped as well.

Him writing it and co-starring it makes me super nervous. The co-star part makes me nervous. It seemed to me, maybe I read it wrong, I thought, oh, he's not writing a movie anymore, but he's going to be starring in a film. No, he's writing. So he's writing the movie he's starring. directing in and co-starring in it. That makes me super nervous because everything. he has done that he has written, everything that he has written

has been very comedy-based. I don't think Star Wars needs that right now. Here's the thing. I see a lot of people talking backlash against him. Like he had one bad movie people. Right. The pitchforks are, I was like, no. What happened was, like with the Tim Burton, he was finally, we saw him in full control

of what he wanted to do. This is, if I'm giving free reign, this is what I'm going to do with Love and Thunder. You're given free reign and Star Wars now. We've seen before little things, Jojo Rabbit. they've always had bits of Tyka in them, but also under studio control and whatnot. His episode of Mandalorian is fantastic. But it's under the control of everybody.

100%. And it's not written by him. Right. But this is it going, I get free reign and I'm going to start it. I can say right now this will probably be not be the Star Wars for me. Because this is what you said. That is with Jojo Rabbit and other things too.

When I go to see a Tycho Wattiti movie, which is Jojo Rabbit, I want to see a Tycoeo movie. I want to see Hitler dancing. Sure. But it's a Taika Watita movie, so you know when you go to see a movie that is written by Taika Watiti that is something completely different, you're like, oh, I'm going to see a Taika a movie, this is going to be outrageous, right? Yeah. When you go to see a Star Wars movie or a Marvel movie directed by him, I want to see a Marvel movie directed by him.

I don't want to see a Tyca movie that happens to be in Marvel. I don't want to see a Tiger movie that happens to be in Star Wars. I want to see a Star Wars movie that's directed by Tyca. It's a differentiation between Love of Thunder and Ragnar Rock. 100%. Because he didn't write, because he didn't write Ragnar Rock. He added his style and his flavor to it, and he co-wrote things, but he's not credited for the script. He's credited for the damn script to Ragnarok, and you can tell.

Love it and Thunder. I mean, love of thunder. It'll be a movie for staff. I think it's an incredible mistake to do, and I hope that I'm wrong. I hope it turns out to be like, you know what? He went full-on, like, Star Wars to it. Yeah, absolutely it will, but I'll own that. I think it's a bad move.

Anyway, that being said for that Star Wars panel, if you're doing a live filmmaker, like, here's our plan for Star Wars. I think that the Lindelof movie comes out in 2025, the end of 2025, because I think they're going to start shooting it really soon this year, December. And then I think Taika's movie comes out in 2026. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. 25 and the 26? Yeah.

And the other reason. When I get stars for 2025. No. And the other reason I think that Tyka's. movie is going to be announced and is going to happen now is because the rumor was that it takes place in the same time period that Linda lost movie is apparently taking place. And so they're probably, you know, planning it out and structuring around. That lines up. Right? Yeah, that lines up. All right. As we move, if we keep going on and we have a little bit of time left, but then we got a

then we got to run. So the next thing that, and then there's a lot of cool thing. The making of Andor season one is also in there. So you're going to have Tony Gilroy and Diego Luna on stage talking about Andor. So if you're going to get anything, yeah, if you're going to get anything about and or, like, whether it's season two, a little bit more, you're probably can get more information in that panel than anything else. Why wouldn't you save it? The same way that for Mandalorian, we got, you remember last year, they did a little bit more

of the Mandalorian panel than they did at that massive panel. Saturday, this is going to be huge from 11 to 12 to start it off as the Asoka panel. And that is on the Galaxy and Twin Suns and says, Dave Filoni, Favro, and special guests for look at the upcoming Disney Plus series is so good. When we read this before we went on air, Steph, you said something I think is completely true. What do you think is going to happen? The entire cast and Ezra unveiling.

Yeah, and I think a trailer, a full trailer. Yeah. Oh, sure. Because last celebration, we got a clip and then Rosario Dawson checking in. This is for sure a trailer. Yeah, we're going to get a lot more about what it's about. We're going to learn. We're going to get not only Ezra.

We're going to find out who Thrawn is. We're going to find out who Herra is. Will we find out if Zeb's coming back or not? We'll find out all this. I think there's going to be tons of information that comes out of that one. So I think look forward to that one because that's going to be, that's going to be massive. You get the High Republic, they have their own thing that's, I think a lot of on the galaxy stage. So I guess a lot of people are going to be looking forward to that.

40 years return of the Jedi. That's crazy. Young and Jedi, the Young Jedi Adventure screening, they're going to, they're going to debut that. That'll be, yeah, it'll be good. Hasbro is doing a Star Wars in Indiana Jones panel. I was at first I was like what are they doing another Indiana Jones thing it's not Star Wars but it's like whatever it's Lucas film and they're doing some Hasbro thing Clone Wars 15 year anniversary panel and that's crazy it's nuts now Sunday day three April 9th the villains of the sequel trilogy got Andy circus Ian McDermid Gwendolyn Christie all on stage to talk about the villainous roles now that's because you know it's it's a fun panel

but it looks like they're kind of running out of steam of like the big and out of any big and announcements or anything, too. I want to say this, because I'm looking over this thing, and I'm sorry, you haven't said it yet. Where's the Acoly? An Acklechlech's going to be probably in that first panel. In that, in that... It's coming up, but it doesn't do its own panel, though?

No, not yet. No, no, and it's just me saying this. Not yet, because I think if Star Wars Celebration, it won't, but if Star Wars Celebration was happening next year, that's when the Acklead would have its own panel, because it's not coming, we don't even know when it's coming out. I think you're going to get... Oh, I thought it was coming out in spring of...

20-23? Right? Yeah. No. It comes out in 2024. No, I thought spring of 2024, yeah. It comes out in 2020. Yeah, but it's not enough to, I mean, Asoka's right around the corner. Right. So it would make sure to have its own panel. Like, Akalite's a little, like I, acolyte needs to, I think in that panel, though, that first panel

at all, this is crazy. That's what I'm saying. They don't. I think they don't bring out some cast because I think that they're filming in London for the Alkalite. Yeah, they have to do something. Okay. Accolite is going to have something. It just seems like every show has got like either a panel, or a look back except that.

They might do what they did with Assoca. What about Skeleton crew? There's no talking to Skeleton crew either. Last celebration, I think, was in the same timeline as Ackleit is now. That was Assoca. Yeah. So we got, like I said, a little clip and Rosario Dawson checking in. I think that we'll get something similar, if not some of the cast actually coming on stage.

Because I do think that they're still filming, and I think that they're in London. I think Ackleite, I think Skeleton Crew. I think all that is going to be, I think that's all going to be for the first panel. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I talk about all the projects. Because it does say in that thing that all the projects kind of coming up. I didn't think about that, but for sure.

Yeah. So they're doing visual effects of Andor. That's going to be in April night. I mean, it does seem like there's some fun panels in April night, but nothing completely mind-blowing, right? You get the visual effects of Andor, Hyperspace Stories, Dark Horse, Dark Horse, Horizons. Excuse me, Dark Horse comic books returns. I look back at Obi-1. one canobi so i guess uan mcgregor hayden christensen idira varma and vivian lee blare and deborah all on stage so

that that could be fun um cosplay competitions that's interesting that um what's her name deboruchow no i know i know you talk about nope the inquisitor oh oh uh moses moses moses moses yeah um it's interesting she's not going to be there probably working actually all right so let's probably yeah yeah He'll probably over it. All of it. Probably over it. Lucasfilm publishing stories is going to be there. And then so Monday, the last day is Monday, April 10th, and that's the bad batch, which I

understand why they have a panel, but they're going to be in the, they're going to be on the celebration stage. Okay. Then make mine Marvel Star Wars live in the galaxy stage. Visions Volume 2, which I'm sure stuff will be at for sure if she's there. Doug Chang is talking about designing Obi-1, Canobeeby, and the Mandalorian, and then the closing ceremony as at 4 o'clock, 5 o'clock on Monday. So I would say that, obviously it's always the first one, usually Thursday morning,

but it'll be Friday morning, hour and a half panel, all that information or more. Everybody will be tuned in about what the hell they're talking about. I mean, I don't know if John Williams will be there again, but. Maybe Ludwig? Maybe he, no, I didn't realize he's not doing the music for this season. Nope. It is different. Yeah, it's different.

Who's doing, do you know who the, I don't know? I wonder why he's not doing it this year. Busy guy. He's been on everything now. But either way, I mean, you look at all that stuff and you look at this information that comes out right beforehand with the movies, movie news, TV projects. Do we get before we, because with that hour and a half panel,

I think that takes away the possibility of announcing new shows. I don't think we're going to get any new show announcements. I don't think so either. I think they have a lot of they're working on and they get the movie stuff going. So, yeah. A movie, if we get anything announced, it's new, it's the two. So how many movies, if any, do they know? Now, too.

You think they're going to announce too? Seeing that they just drop this news right now. Well, they didn't drop it, but it's been, the news is reported. Right, right, right, right. No Patty, no Fikey. Tykes definitely do. So I think Tykes is far enough away is like, oh, I want to star in this. I was writing it, I want to star in it.

And the Lindelof's going to go. So I say two movies. I think one. Now that we've talked about the act like. You think Tyka? No, I think it's going to be Lindelaw. You think it'll be Lindel off as well, and you think they'll hold back on the title. Yes.

And then so that, and then, yeah, I think that they'll show, I think they won't show too much Asoka because they have that full panel, which I think they did that from Mendoly. It was to focus on acolyte. I mean, maybe a teaser of acolyte, cast of acolyte for sure. Skeleton crew for sure. I bet you Jude Law is there, obviously. Yeah.

And I think they focus in on those full episodes. I think Thursday's going to, excuse, I keep saying Thursday, the Friday panel is going to be the talk. of the celebration. Yeah. All right, guys, what do you guys think? Did you like the panel so far? What do you think is going to happen?

Give me your predictions for sure and let me know exactly what you think is going to go down to Star Wars Celebration. What do you think about the news with Tycho and Tidey? And what do you think about the news with Kevin Feigy and all that and more, Patty Jenkins? Make sure your comments are known. Steph, World Girls, where else can I find you? Just ask Steph Sabra.

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