The Kristian Harloff Show - The Mandalorian star Katee Sackhoff IN STUDIO Interview

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

See us LIVE in person Burbank April 28: http://www.thekristianharloff.com  Season 3 Of the Mandalorian is in the books. Arguably, the star of the season was Bo Katan, played by Katee Sackhoff. Katee had an incredible season, and the spotlight was clearly on her. She returns for an in studio interview to discuss all things spoiler, heavy in season three of the latest Star Wars show. We talk about the journey, the fan reaction, Star Wars, Celebration, motherhood, Dave Filoni, Jon Favreau, and more. Will Bo Katan show up in the Feloni directed film? Will Katee ever reprise her role in Battlestar Galactica or Riddick? Plus, we give away the signed helmet of Bo Katan. And, Katee gives away two more autographed memorabilia. Enjoy the episode!  #themandalorian  #Mandalorian #StarWars #BocKatan #KateeSackhoff ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.athleticgreens.com/bigthing This episode brought to you by BETTER HELP! BETTER HELP: http://www.betterhelp.com/bigthing CARBON HEALTH: https://carbonhealth.com/virtual-care/telehealth OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

Point Raise Farmstead Cheese is helping you celebrate life's big moments with award-winning California-made artisan cheese. Whether you're honoring a graduate or shopping for the dad who has everything, we've created collections that make gifting easy and delicious. We have great options for any budget, and we ship nationwide. We pride ourselves in being a women-owned small business, so help us spread the joy and get deliciously cheesy. Visit us online at pointraisechease.com and get 15% off your first order. From our family to yours. Happy celebrating. Thanks again to Carbon Health for being our presenting sponsor.

If you are a regular here, you know I've talked about carbon health and how long I've talked about carbon health and why I love carbon health. They help with things like COVID, cold, flu testing, antibiotic prescriptions for things like infections, UTIs, STDs. They have primary care services in California and Massachusetts. But if you're new here, thank you, by the way, for stopping by. You should also know that they can help with injuries as well. Most of their locations have imaging or x-ray machines.

so they can diagnose strains, sprains, and fractures if you unfortunately become injured. And I know, unfortunately, not everyone will be near one of the 120-plus locations, but they do have virtual urgent care services for states like California, New York, Florida, and several others. So thank you to Carbon Health. Really, really happy to be working with them.

Check out the link in the description. What's going on, everybody? And we promised it. I know everybody's excited. I'm excited. It is a special, special, spoiler-heavy review of the Mandalorian season three, but not with just me and Brett, who's an expert in Star Wars. It's Katie Sackoff.

Boca Tan herself is here today. And not only we're going to talk about everything regarding season three, if you watched the last interview we did with Katie before the season started, she said she was going to give away a signed copy, a signed version of her Boca Tan helmet from Hasbro. And she brought it. And we picked out a comment already, and we're going to let that be known today who won the helmet.

And guess what? It's not over. We're also going to be doing more giveaways on this one. Same type of deal. You've got to comment, you know, do this, and we'll tell you we're going to give away today in the episode. But it's just going to be a full-on spoiler about the season. If you haven't seen season three,

I would suggest not watching this until you have. So we'll get into all that and more. But we're just asking you to show a little bit of class. Just an ounce. Hit that button. Help us get to 100,000. We're almost there. People are like, whoa, I don't have any class if I don't subscribe.

I never said that. I just said you're showing a little bit more if you do. So head on over there. We also got Spotify, baby. Hit Spotify. We are on video, all that and more. And we are going to be in Burbank, California, this Friday night, April 28th, stand-up comedy with myself, Brett Coy, Winston,

Kate Mulligan, and then the entire crew is going to be doing a podcast right afterwards. Oxy, Steph, Mike, all of us. You can get tickets, but get tickets now. All right, everybody, let's do it. Let's talk Mandalorian with Boca Tan herself. Katie Sackoff is here. Let's do it. I'm ready.

You're ready? Great. What up, everybody? Welcome back. Happy Monday. Mandalorian has wrapped season three. And the person we need to talk to about it is here. Oh, the best.

Get lost, will you? Katie Sack office here. Hi. Ladies and gentlemen, she's back. Welcome back, Katie. Thank you. What a whirlwind. What a whirlwind.

In general, man. Holy moly, the season has wrapped. The finale is here, and I have so many questions. I'm sure you do. I do, too. I have a lot of questions. All right, so I want to be pretty up front, honest with you up top because we've known each other for a long time. I enjoyed the season.

I thought the season was fun. I said to a bunch of people the other day, I said the season to me felt like a really good sandwich. to me was just missing a little bit of meat, just a little bit of meat, meaning that there's a great moment that happens in season two, and now we can talk about this. Bokatan, she saves Dinsas,

as she does for the majority of the season, and she starts talking to Groger, really, about the background and the time with her family and all that. And I thought that was such a great scene. Was there ever any talk about adding a little bit more about people who maybe didn't see rebels or clone wars to get a little bit more about about Bo? We spoke about it, for sure.

I think the problem with a show like this is that you're straddling that line between keeping the episodes shorter and then stuffing them so full. And you can't do everything you want to do. And, you know, there is definitely a lot that the fans still want to see. There's a lot that I want to know.

Because I know that Dave and I have talked about it. We've talked about her entire backstory. We've talked about all the things that happen. And for me, I really loved those moments where we saw a different side of bow. We saw the pain. We saw her regret. And I always would love to have more of those selfishly. But, you know, maybe a different time, a different place.

Yeah, because I think that that's the stuff that really worked. And people wanted me to ask you a particular question. Is you back okay? Volkatan was that really was the driving point. And you had mentioned last time you were on the show that you had these moments that you talked to with John on set because you knew there was a lot. I mean, now after seeing the season,

I understand what you were saying because there was a lot of pressure. It was really your season. So what did you feel? How did you feel about it overall? and, you know, like, did it deliver in the way that you wanted to? You know, I love this show. I love working on it. I love the whole cast and the crew, and I love this character.

Yeah. And it's never going to be what I thought it was going to be because, you know, I'm not in the editing room. And there are definitely moments where I'm like, why would they choose that take? Right. Oh, my God, I did such a better work on this take. But that's normal.

You know, it's the overall story. And I think that one of the things that people need to understand, and they've been, I think, pretty vocal about this is that these three shows go together. You know, Mandalorian, Asoka, Booba Fett, they all go together. And, you know, this season was all about setting something up for, you know, the greater good of the entire story. So, you know, it's always one of those weird, funny things

because I'm my biggest critic. And so I liked the work that I did. You know, there's definitely a couple scenes where I was like, damn it. Anyone in particular you want to get into or not really? Yeah. So you know the when Beau gives her speech about we're going to go take back Mandelaar with the two different clans. That scene was much longer. Oh, was it?

It was, I mean, that scene. Like William Wallace style? I mean, like super long. And that was the comparison we made. Was this is the rousing thing. You're inspiring these two separate clans to get out there and go retake their homeworld. It has to be emotional. It has to be big.

And for whatever reason, it got cut down a lot. And so that scene, I love this entire season. I thought it was fun. But that one moment for me, I was like, oh, I wish that they'd given more context to what had happened right before. Because I think that it would have made that. that speech land heavier. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think, and there were,

the majority of the takes I did were, you know, William Wallace-esque. See, that was one of my, that's why I said what I said in the beginning about the sandwich, is that like, you mentioned like the shorter episodes. And I've been saying it, like, the audience is tired of me saying it. But like, I, like five, 10, 15 more minutes, you get more like dialogue and pieces like that,

that further the story. So I'm interesting. I'm going to do what that's like a Disney note or what that was. I have no idea. Honestly, I really don't know what that is. You know, when we're in it, it feels like they're longer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

I'm always surprised how quick they go. Because the episodes, there are so many people that work on this show. There are so many moving parts. It's so expensive to shoot. And it has always surprised me that they're as short as they are. Yeah, I just don't know what that is. It's one of my biggest critiques of the Star Wars stuff that they do is that they make them so short because there's so many great moments.

Like the moments that I love, a great moment that we can talk about is when Dinn says to, Bo, I got you. Yeah. Like, don't, like, talk to me a little bit about their relationship in this season. What you were kind of directed about what kind of coming into it, what you felt, you know, the history of it, taking anything from the Clone Wars and Rebels, knowing what she went through, kind of give me that process. So this entire season, I took her backstory with me.

Yeah. That was the biggest thing that I wanted to focus on was I wanted to focus on this is her redemption arc. She has to be relatable. She has to win people over. And if she doesn't, the whole season won't work. Yeah. And so I was aware of that.

And I think that the way that somebody can be forgiven and find atonement is to be genuinely regretful and remorseful of the things that they've done and the events of their past. you know, to hear Bo say that she did surrender, this is a person whose ego has driven her for so long. Yeah. And to see that she surrendered because it was the only option she had. And the sort of like the destruction that continued after that is heartbreaking. Yeah.

It's like absolutely heartbreaking. And I thought in my mind the only reason he didn't kill her was because he wanted her to live with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why she hates him so much. Makes sense. And so even like rewining back until like episode one, we were lucky enough,

we tried to, Brett and I tried to find you at the, at the premiere event at Al-Cabitan. Oh, yeah, it was so fast. Yeah, it was fast. It went, it went quick, it was true. But we were to, because remember we were talking,

you had just come in, I think it might have been that, it was, was that day that it aired or I can't, yeah, it was the day that it aired. Yeah, it was our interview aired. So we were talking about Mercedes. Yeah. And she was there that night.

So she was there and Bill Burr was there. Everyone was there. I didn't get to see anyone. They were all up with us. They were all up above. They set us. They set them with the losers. You were in the nosebleeds.

Actually, those seats are actually really nice. I would have much rather been up there. Those seats where you guys were your knees are like pressed against. Yeah. Those are tough those seats. I love the upstairs ones. But we were, but that whole thing and watching all them, watching that little family up there and how that all worked.

But they showed us the first two. And as I, and I think that there was some episodes. in this season that really played together better like back to back and I think one and two is an example because there's a scene where you first and I have to talk to about this

throne room thing because I know did you know this was going to be as big of it is like everyone wants you to do that pose I saw you at Star Wars celebration you did that pose like did you know that was going to be a thing? No I mean I knew that visually this was going to be something that people talked about because like it's just such

it's such a relaxed disrespectful like you know position to sit on a throne. And also it's really like uncomfortable looking. So it's sort of like, well, my husband goes, how long was she sitting there? So in my mind, it was like, I think she ran in as soon as she saw.

And then I saw that girl's TikTok. Oh, right? Yeah, yeah. I sent that one too. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched that. And because in my mind, it made me laugh so hard because I was like, that's what I sort of thought happened. It was like, she sees him and she's like, damn it. Runs back and forth. And she's like, yeah, because there's no, there's no wine around. There's no food. There's nothing.

She's in the same spot for like, like, it's got to be like at least 24 hours. She's not even looking on her iPhone. Nothing. Nothing. She just smoked a real big bowl and she like can't get up. She's like, I am. The joy is like, what you want some more? You want to be in a brownie now?

Yeah, because we were like, hey, she's relaxed. She thought she was watching a show. It was just the clouds. That's it. And she doesn't move at all. No. And then she still was operative, you know, operas. All right.

I guess I'll go kick someone's ass with a dark saver. But, I mean, that whole thing is, it's funny how iconic that it already has become. She's just sitting on that throne, chilling. What do they call that BDE? Is that one? Oh, okay. I think that's, yeah. Well, let me ask you.

So with that, like, what's that conversation like? You know, with, because who directed, was it, who directed the first? That was Rick. Rick directed the first, right? Then he directed the last two. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. So Rick and John and I were all about, you know, how do you take up space on this throne?

because I on that throne looked tiny. I looked so little. I mean, I think that people all the time are surprised by how small I actually am, because I'm only 5'6. I'm not 5'10, and they always think I'm going to be really big. You carry yourself. Yeah. So I was like super tiny.

I looked like a little girl. My feet didn't even touch the ground. And they were like, well, this doesn't work. And so it was all about trying to figure out what the most comfortable thing is. They had me sit on it ahead of time before it was completely built. sort of see what I, you know, with the jet pack on, without the jet pack on, how do you sit, what do you do? And then ultimately it just came down to what we wanted to convey.

We wanted her to look disrespectful. We wanted her to look bored. We wanted her to look completely disenged and defeated. Defeated, yeah. Because that's what it is. This is rock bottom for this person. And the last person she wants to see is Dinn. Right.

And because if it had it not, and this is, I guess, where they made the Grogu, because I've seen some kind of criticisms in the fact of like the Grogo thing, like they ended in the this big moment on season two, and then they put him to get back together on Boba Fett. But you see what Grogu do, especially in that moment, where he's got to get the hell out of Dodge, and he's the one that goes and gets, oh, and I thought it worked to be from the way that they made it play, because he's not just kind of Goo Goo Gaga baby anymore. He's trained in the Force by Lou Skywalker. Yeah, yeah, and I love that moment because I think that, I think it's the only thing that would have made Beau say yes.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I think that there's this soft spot she has. Yeah, she's ready to kick Dyn's ass. She knows how important the Jedi are. Yeah. She literally knows, she knows where Asoka is. Yeah.

She knows how important this character is. She knows how important, she's seen someone like this before. She's, you know, I mean, it makes complete sense that she knows the importance of this child. And to not then go help him when she was the one who sent him. Right. She knew she sent him off to a place that was dangerous. She didn't know what was there. She didn't know who was going to get captured by the crone.

But she knew that it was probably, you know, not. not going to be the easiest place to find. Because since he'd never been there before. Right. So I think there's a lot of guilt. And I think that with the guilt she's already carrying on her back, the last thing, she's like, God, damn, I don't need the guilt of more Mandalorians on my conscience. So much I want to ask you about the Dark Sabre, the wielding of the, because, like,

so how much of that in that scene with the chrome, you're kicking his ass with that saber was you? How much was the stunt? So that was a scene that I was there for very little of, because that was Joanna. And, you know, we talk about how big this season is, right? There are two units moving at all times. There are very few scenes that I saw this. I mean, I don't want to say few.

There are scenes that I saw where I was like, I was not there. Yeah. I would say 80% of them I was there. Right. If not. And I did it at least once, if not, you know, most of it. But that being said, Joe's phenomenal athlete. I mean, she literally doubles Brie Larson.

She's amazing at what she does. And she doubled, I believe, Galgado is, is it Galgado? I might be speaking out of tune there. But she's a phenomenal stunt double. And, you know, to have me do the scenes where, you know, she's going to go in there with a helmet on and look ten times better, it's just stupid to have me try. That means that that last fight, I did as much of it as I could.

Yeah. You know, because I... With Moth. With Moth. Yeah. Because I wanted to. Yeah. But that scene with the crone was not me.

That was all Joe. Okay. But that scene in general with the character, what I will say is this, if Beau ever had an excuse to really punch Dinn in the mouth because she wanted to do it in the beginning, you know, if she ever had an excuse, it's after that fight with Axe. So she fights Axe. Yeah. She, he knows that she's going in and kick some, have a fight, get her position back.

They do this scrap. She's kicking his ass. Like, why didn't you give me the dark saber in the? the plane right on the way over here, dumb, dumb. Like, why you got to do it in front of these people that already know that I took it one time before? Like, what are you doing? Why, they were there.

They saw me except this the last time. They know how badly it went. Why are you not giving it to me in private? Why, you want to follow me so bad, buddy? You pricks scumbet. Yeah. What are you doing? What are you doing?

Why didn't you just say, she beat me? Hey, guys, before you kick the shit out of each other, I have a little information. I have a little bit of news. Instead, he's like, nah, let him fight. And if he didn't, if he just, because people are like, oh, he didn't realize it at first. So wait, he's watching him fight and he goes, oh, I just put it together. That was a really fun fight to shoot, by the way.

That was really fun. I loved that fight. It was so much fun. Just like rolling on the ground. Because you were being coy about it when we asked if we were going to show him again. And if Costco Reeves were coming back, you knew. And they made it back. And I thought that they used them really well.

I still, I think, I mean, because as we talked about, Mercedes is just so, like, there's something about it. She got that presence, right? She's physically incredibly capable. Yeah, I want to learn more about that character. She wasn't physically as Mercedes was not available a lot. Yeah, is that why? That's why there's a lot of stuff with her the season that is also her stunt double.

Okay. Because she just wasn't available. She was off fighting. Axe, you know, we knew he was supposed to die last year. Oh, wow. Like that was the thing that no one could talk about. Like there was this moment where he like sacrifices himself in, in that episode where he like, you know, and he did it. We shot it.

In season two. In season two. And they were like, oh, that didn't. It needs to be din. It needs to be din. Not him. Okay. And so then you, you know, you shoot a person's death and then they take it out.

And then there's still a scene left. And then everyone's like, where'd they go? Yeah. Like, well, he's pooping. Ah. So that's, okay. That makes sense. That's what happened.

He's probably happy. Of course he was. Yeah. Because he is a bigger fan than anyone I've ever met. So like, I mean, he talks about how when he was a little kid, he had like the little, you know, Boba Fett action figure. Like he's, I mean, seeing him on set when we first met him. Deacon out. Oh, my God.

It actually drove me nuts season one. I was like, who is this green shit head over here who is like kid in candy store? I was like, put your big point pants on it, buddy. We got to go to work. He was so excited. and it's just infectious. He's such a phenomenal human being. And he's so great to be around.

And he's such a talent. And I love that they didn't make him the bad guy. I loved that they didn't make him the bad guy because everyone was talking about either him or the armorer. And it was funny because Katie wouldn't, I always tried to get information out of her office. She never gives it to me. And I said, and I was like, before she left,

last time I, come on. So Beau was going to be bad this season, right? She's like, you're going to watch this show. You're going to watch the show. And I thought maybe because of the Dark Sabre thing and all that, but clearly within two episodes, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and it would have been really hard. You know, you're written into a really difficult situation.

You have a character that everyone loves in Dinn. You have a character that you don't want to necessarily kill right now because of the overall story, potentially. I don't know, I'm guessing. To have them fight to the death for a dark saber. Right. Well, that's a no-win situation. How do you write that?

And I think that that potentially, I don't know for sure, but I think potentially that that was one of the conversations that happened in the sense that we're in a no-win situation, how do we then do this? And so, you know, people are like, oh, she wanted on a technicality. No, she didn't. Relax. Someone told me to shut the F up the other day because I don't know Star Wars and I don't know what the dark favorite represents.

Wait a minute. Wait, hold on. So you're telling me that someone on social media was kind of mansplaining Star Wars to you? Mansplaining. Yeah. mansplaining to the Mary Sue. What? That's all right. Did you get the Mary Sue? Not as much, not as much, but I do get it. You and Daisy really could join the club. We can fist bump over that.

No, I, but explaining, trying to mansplain to me that I don't understand. And I was like, look, the Dark Sabre needs to be won in battle. Right. It was won in battle. It was one in battle. The Crone won it in battle with him. It's laying on the ground. Bo picks it up. She beats the Crone. and then she gives it back. You know, she's like...

I would take, again, that's why I made that joke joking but not joking where, like, this was whether we're buddies or not, this was your season. And you shine when you were supposed to shine. You did what you're supposed to do, and the character really, it was

amazing. So like, I think that, you know, for every turd, there's a lot of people out there. Like, I can't even tell you how many times I get on the comments of like, this was Katie's season, Bok. And even, Even people who thought they didn't necessarily love the season. They're like, I saw, third wasn't my favorite, but Katie. Katie was the one that really made this happen.

I saw that so many different times. But what I will say is, I don't mind the dark saber angle. I think that the angle that happened, my biggest thing was like, if they knew that, should have said something a little bit earlier, buddy. How long was the car right over? Right, right. My husband gets so mad at me because I will go on social media and I'll be like, everybody fucking hates me.

Everybody hates me. They're talking about how stupid this is. This person says I should, you know, that I don't know anything. This person says that, you know, acting, watching me act is like watching paint dry. This person says that, you know, Katie's Sack of Candy actor we had out of a paper bag. And he's like, how many people said that? Right. How many people?

I'm like, all of them. He's like, okay. And then he'll come back to me. I think an hour later and be like, I read it all. I found two. Right. I found two. And I was like, yeah, that's what I mean?

All of them. And so now he's like, what did they say? I'm like, well, you know, so last night in the car, I was like, I don't know, like 70% are like super, super excited about Bo. You got 20, man, 10% that are like, I hated the whole thing. You know, you got 5% that you just hate Bo. And then you got 2% that want me to sit on their face. Only two? Only two?

Add up those numbers. I think those are altered numbers. I'm really trying to give him the whole scope. what we're dealing with here. Like, these are the numbers. This is what we're dealing with. Sure, you really broke it down. I broke it down for him.

He was like, all right, that's true. Russell Crow, beautiful, mind style. And then he says to me, he goes, I appreciate your honesty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to put one in that just says how lazy you are because you don't do the stuff with the helmet on.

Thank you. I mean, like, these actors are like, Pedro Pascal. It's so lazy. You're so lazy. You're so lazy. No, but your husband's 100% right. This is, like, welcome to the world of Star Wars fandom, also too, right?

And I think that from what you, the positivity that you got, that's a good stat. Yeah. That, that stand to that high, you're going to get people that are going to do the initial,

because people, if you've been watching Katie Sackoff, she's been kicking ass for years, as Starbuck, in Longmeyer, in all these, Bionic woman, for God's sakes.

Like all these things that she had done, she's kicking ass. This is not something new. Oh, it's a female agenda. Boca tan is, it's a female agenda. Female agenda. Everything's the female agenda and woke these days.

No, but it's like, look, and I was talking about this with my brother the other day, I do think that there's sometimes that studios kind of almost like monetize and, and they'll make an agenda towards the thing that's politically going to help them. I think that happens a lot. Of course. They don't want to get smashed on Twitter and they don't want to get smashed in social media so they go, well, who can fit that role and who can do that? They don't want to offend anyone.

Right. And I think that that's the wrong approach. Because it's like you've got to cast what you feel is right. But on the flip side of that, when there's a character like Bo Catan, who is, if you watch Clone Wars and you watch these rebels and you watch, the character has been this strong lead character and has been going through arcs forever, it made sense for her to do what she's doing. And the show is called The Mandalorian. Not called Din. You know what? this season was about the Mandalorian.

Yeah. And so there are sometimes when I think that, you know, when people just kind of call out into anger, and I think then there's sometimes when people are, you know, just saying, hey, look, listen, maybe they could have done this a different way. Yeah, and I think at the end of the day, you know, what we are creating is art,

whether you agree with that sediment or not. And art is subjective. Not everyone is always going to love what you do. Right. And we would be stupid if we thought that everybody would like us. like the work we do, like our talent, and like the stuff that we do. And you just, you got to let it go. 100%.

And I'll tell you guys one thing. You know what I love? You're always going to love everything that these people do. And that's athletic greens. That's right. Let me tell you about athletic greens right now. Athletic Greens is the best. AG1, man.

We are very excited to be talking about our next partner here. I take AG1 by Athletic Greens every day. I've been talking about them for months. It's coming up on years at this point. For me, I take it in the morning. As the day is getting going, I put it in a water bottle, I shake it up. Done. It gives me good energy.

I've been talking about it forever. Brett loves it. Katie Sackoff loves it. Why? Because it just makes it simple. You just put, I'm not a big vitamins guy. One shot, done. For me, it helps energy, sleep quality.

And I just never understood. Why would you take a bunch of different things? You can just take one scoop of powder in water once a day. you're good. It's a good life hack. It's really great. It's why I love and I trust AG1 by Athletic Greens and so many of you guys do too now since hearing about it on this show. It gets delivered to you once a month, very easy to make it a daily habit. I get the travel packs when I go on the road, when I'm doing the Comic-Conn's and things. It's so easy. You just take care of your body each day and it's that simple. So if you're looking for an easier way to take supplements,

Athletic Greens is going to give you a free one-year supply of vitamin D and five free travel packs with your first purchase. Go to athletic greens.com slash big thing. Athletic Greens.com slash big thing. Check it out. I thank you to again our friends over at Athletic Greens. We love Athletic Greens. Cannot wait for you guys to when you try Athletic Greens.

Not only do you help the show. You help yourself. And go ahead and put that comment there. Let me know that you tried Athletic Greens. Use that code, Big Thing. All right. Let's also, we got to talk about this. this episode with Jack Black and Lizzo.

Because this was a major, major talking point for a lot of people out there. They loved it. There were a lot of people that did. There's a lot of people that did. Yes, I'll tell you what, there were a lot of people who, and I was just talking to someone the other day, and they said, look, I get that there's some people,

the Star Wars fans who were like, there was just cameos to be cameos, and I don't know why they were in there and this and this and that. But this particular person was like, I watch this with my daughters. They love Lizzo. I love Jack Black.

And it landed for me. My brother is one of those people. He goes, it landed for me. So tell me about the day itself about, when did you find out that they were even involved? So we found out pretty much toward the beginning. We started getting the sort of like the rumor that I was going to happen. And then John told me that that's who it was going to be.

And I just kept thinking to myself because I'm a huge fan of Jack Black. I kept thinking to myself, how am I going to keep a straight face when I am the silent character in the corner that, you know, doesn't smile. Right, right, right. You know, like, she doesn't do much. And I was like, okay. So, you know, it's, it was hard. There were moments when you're, I'm watching Jack, Jack Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack. Jack Black did his thing.

Jack Black do his thing. Jack Black do his thing. but I am desperately trying not to laugh. And Lizzo is a phenomenal musician. She's such a talent and such a nice woman. We had a lot of fun together. We had a lot of fun together. Now, as cool as that was, though, it's Christopher Lloyd, man.

It's Christopher Lloyd. It's Christopher Lloyd. I thought he was the best. I thought he was the best. I thought he was so good in that particular role. And that's the one I would have been geeking out. I like Jack Black. I like Jack Black, a lot.

And I don't really know. I mean, all I hear is how great Lizzo is, and I know from what I've heard, great musician. But it's Christopher Lloyd, man. I know. I have photos. Yeah, I'm sure you do. I have photos of all of them in my phone.

And it's sort of one of those things when, like, how, am I far enough away from the show that I can post it? Not get fire. Right, right, right, right. So I'm like slowly trickling things out to be like, don't look over here. Disney. Yeah, yeah.

Who do you, is that who you? Who do you reach out? too in a certain circumstance like that. Do you just have, you know, you reach, tell you publicist, hand post and he's being on the lookout for somebody saying something? You know, I like to be very respectful of my employer. Yeah. And they're sort of like mandates.

Yeah. And wrong word, but especially Star Wars. I'm respectful of it. I usually ask permission. You know, I posted something the other day of, you know, when I did all my knee slides. I posted that picture and didn't ask permission, but I thought that that was like,

Yeah. How do you get mad about that? Nobody got mad at it. Shows over, like, you know. Anybody say anything? There's no spoilers. Nobody reached out. Okay.

So, because I also, I start to see other people starting to post, like, behind the scenes stuff. And I was like, well, Jack Black posted all his photos. Yeah. You know, Lizzo's posting all hers. You got Brendan posting stuff. Right. You know, all these people are posting BTS stuff. And I'm over here going like, can I post this?

Right. Well. So, you know, I'm starting to just post things. Now, inside that, now, again, when I'm watching that episode, I think that one of the things was curious about because to me the most fascinating stuff inside of this season was the retaking of mandala. Yeah. I mean, that was the most fascinating stuff. And we, as we joke about that scene with the Dark Saber, that happens at the end of that episode. The beginning is kind of a setup of them getting there. And then there's this kind of like good cop, bad cop episode that happens in that particular

episode. But it's the stuff that, and even in the beginning of the episode, the Choruson episode, so when that Choruson episode happens of, did you know, was it written that way that you guys have that scene where, you know, the castle gets blown up. You guys have this kind of, because that was a great scene by you, by the way, because there's just like this moment of rage to where she's got to snap back into it and go, hey, I'm going to die. We got to get out of here. We got to get out of here. So was that written that way in the script that it was that moment and then this long Corrason episode? Or was it a different episode? No, everything was written the way. It was. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. There is nothing this season

that caught me off guard like Luke showing up in CCC. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. There was nothing where I was like, well, that wasn't in the script. Right. Any mention inside on the set about

because now at Star Wars Celebration, so I want to get into your Star Wars Celebration experiences here at London, but at Star Wars Celebration, they announce that Faloni's going to be directing a movie. When did you find out about that? When you guys did. Really?

Yeah, I have no idea. Oh, no idea. Okay, interesting. And then the other thing is, So did you know that there was going to be this grand scale, big event that closes everything off? Or that you found that out about that too? No, I, that has been chatter. That has definitely been conversation between Dave and John and I.

And not like we're powwowing in the corner. Like they've talked to other people about it and they talk to me about it as well. So I knew it was coming. I have no idea what it's about. I have no idea who's in it. It would be moronic to not have Boka's hand in that movie. She's got to be in that movie, right? I mean, I, you know, agree 100%.

I would be strange if you didn't. I would be super strange if they didn't. I'm also incredibly biased, obviously. Of course, but yeah, no, but I'm just saying, no matter what happens with Thron, if they're going to have to set up stuff with Thrawn in Asoka. That was a hard secret to keep, by the way. But the Thron element of it.

Yeah, that was really hard to keep. Yeah, did you, I was surprised that was there ever any mention that Thron would show, like, not him in general, but the name even a little bit more so, the finale? Was there anything else with Theron related? No. No. No. No. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. All right. Just that Jean-Carlo stuff. Yeah. And then

and then Pas-Visela's scene. Let's about that scene. That's the most emotional scene. My heavy. Yeah. That was a great scene. That was a that was a hard scene to shoot too. You know, I love Tate.

Tate's one of the coolest people. But I mean, like, talk about like, steady as a rock. Yeah. And just just a phenomenal, phenomenal person. He's so cool to have around. And that scene, shooting that scene, because Bo's the last one,

you know, on the day when you shoot these things, you want to make sure that they land. You know, leaving another Mandalorian behind is really hard for Bo. And especially, you know, having known him and these characters, you know, having known of them for a while now and them knowing each other.

It was hard. You know, she knows he's not coming out of that. And she knows that he just sacrificed himself for them, for her. Yeah. That's crazy, you know? And I wanted her to run back and, like, not want to leave. Yeah. You know, you get, in situations like that, you get overruled.

You realize that the story's not about you and you take your ego out of it. And you're like, but I want her to go back. And it's like, that's not the story right now. Well, it's also, it's consistent in, what we just talked about in that scene when she's going after the Thai fighters and she's going, and she's going to the castle, and then she realizes she's not going to survive this. So it's consistent in that note to where she's like, she's got to lead those other Mandalorians out. I really think that that's, I think that was the right call, to be honest, as much as, yeah,

she would go back to want to help, but it didn't happen. But when she did go back to help is at the end with this fight with Moff Gideon. So tell me a little bit about the Jean-Carlow stuff and then no one again. We knew he was coming back, but in this particular way, the cloning aspect of it, that he cloned himself, all that. So she comes back in to help Dinn, and she does this major battle, because I think they did this on purpose. They want to show you at first, they think Dinn's going to take him out. Then they think Bo's going to take him out. But then Bo has the line, because this is where I kind of, because there was, again, I think there's a certain amount of people that think, I understand why they got rid of the Dark Saber, because it wasn't about that.

Bo says it. She goes, it's about working together. And then there's also the people, I'm kind of in this camp of, I understand it. I don't know about him crushing it in the way that he did. But nonetheless, I understand why. But talk to me about Bo kind of making that choice, what it was like working with Jean-Carlo again and all that.

Jean-Carlo is amazing. You know, talk about a talent. He is such a smart performer. And I love watching him work. I love watching him talk and engage with him. fans. Like he's, he is like just such a powerful,

um, artist and person. Um, you know, it was a weird, it was a hard scene, you know, it's,

it's, it is this moment where you realize that, that he is stronger than any one of them. Um, and it, it took all of them to defeat him. Um, and,

you know, I love that because I think that's the whole thing. I think that that's the, the, the big metaphor of this season is that they all have to come together together for the greater good. And you know, you have to, this thing, this thing that has led to wars

and in fighting and, you know, has to be destroyed for them to move forward. Yeah. It has to be. And they gotta work together? And they have to work together. And the three of them work together to do it. And there's that moment,

the iconic moment now at the end when Grog is kind of protecting them from fire. Yeah. In Star Wars, though, if you don't see the body. That's the, you got to understand that, right? I understand that. If you don't see the body and you don't see them like even Paz. Right.

You know. Well, Paz, though, Paz you saw it kind of dropped down. You did, but maybe he, maybe he just passed out. He got stabbed in the neck. Paz might be gone. Like, I'm holding out hope. You never know. I think he got less of a problem.

I don't know. Like, maybe he just. Maybe. Maybe he got like stab, but it caught her eyes around the way out. And like he was. This is. Bo being helpful here. Hopeful.

Bo is really hopeful. Hopeful. But I think that. there's a shot that that Moff is around, but I like the kind of thing that they did with this kind of battle within that he's not on board with this throne plan. He cares about Moth.

No, he cares about himself. Yeah, and I thought also Katie O'Brien was great. Katie O'Brien's fantastic. She was in here right, like, I saw that. Yeah, right afterwards. And she's, how cool is she? She's amazing.

We have the same trainer. Oh, okay. She's, I don't, did she talk to you about her upcoming project? Yeah, she's got the one with Kristen Stewart. Okay, so she did talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like the shape she had to get in?

Yes. Okay. Jesus. Like, I mean, like guns for guns for guns for guns. And it's so funny because Steve trained me for another life, which was like this lean, like tons of muscle, but like nobody fat. Like I was, I mean like I got so, I got down so low that like my period like stopped. Like it was crazy how lean I was. And I wanted that look for this character.

And then he takes another. actress and Katie and I are literally the same size. Yeah, we are physically the same size. And then he takes her body and just like packs it with this muscle, but also keeps that weight on, you know, and she's just like thick, thick, thick and looks absolutely fucking amazing. Well, there's a lot of talk and fan kind of, in the same way that Rosario Dawson was kind of fan cast in the Asoka role and that's how it happened.

You know, that's how it went down like that. I do. Yeah. And so that's what's happening now with Katie O'Brien in Last of Us season two. There's a role inside of that that everyone says she's going to be. So I'm so curious if that's going to happen. She's going to blow up. I think so.

She's a really cool person, too. She's very nice. But speaking of Last of Us, tell me a little about Pedro. So we know at this point, because he's busy with Last of Us. So is he on set? Is he around? Is it like, how often is he around or is he able just kind of be at the events and stuff? So I primarily work with Brendan Wayne and Lateef.

Got it. You know, those guys are there all the time. And they put that character together with the help of Pedro. Right. It is literally those three guys. You can't do that character without the three of them. And I think that that is something that they've realized as they've gone on. You can't do bow with just me.

Right. It's impossible. Right. Because of the stunts. It's impossible. You've got, you know, not only do you have the fighting and then the acting, you've got the sheer fact that you have two units going at all times. I can't be in one place at the same time or two places at the same time.

I tried. Like this season, I was running back and forth to the back lot and, like, having to change out like paldrons and like this and sprinting back and forth and like killing myself to try and do this. And I was like, just let her, just let, just put. But someone, just like, like, let him go. But there are moments when I see, I can tell when it's not me. I can tell when it's not me walking.

I can tell when it's not me standing. And it kills me because I have such ownership over this character. But it's not about me. Like if it works for the fans, then that's all that matters. Yeah, and that's the thing, right? Because we know, because like you said,

like you're on set so you know, oh, I wasn't there for that shot. But most people can't. Can't tell. So it works. But yeah, as far as, and then, so that makes sense. And you worked a lot with, with Brendan, and that was the kind of the back and forth there.

As far as the directors went this season, though, too, you got to work with Bryce Dallas Howard again. So how was that reunion? I love Bryce. I love Bryce. She's got, like, infectious smile. And her laughter, this giggle that she has is, like, you can't help but want to, like, stand next to her.

Like, she's just amazing. And she's a fantastic. director. She knows what she's doing. She knows the storyline. She knows what the goal is. And she also adds her own spin on it and puts her mark. It's fantastic. She's so good at what she does. When Brandon Wayne was in here, he outed her as a big Star Trek fan. Oh, really? I didn't know that. I didn't know that. She's amazing. You know, there are certain people that you work with, certain women that you work with that, that, um, that, oh, here comes up female agenda. Oh my God. Like, yeah. Who just want other women to succeed. And I think that there's this thing that women know that men, for some reason, don't want to talk about.

There is nothing that a man can say about me that another woman hasn't already said. Women are fucking nasty to each other. They are nasty. They're brutal. They're feisty. They'll cut you. It's hard. Like, I can take the shit that men say to me.

And they'll always bring it back. up and they always bring it back up because we don't forget. Right. Guys forget it to they say it. So when you meet a woman who's like, let me give you a platform, let me raise you up, let me do this. Rosario Dawson's the same way. She loves other women. She's like, let me do this. That is cool. That is amazing because it's not common. Speak to me a little bit about Rosario Dawson then when it comes to a soaker. Is there any shot, because like you said, these things all connect and skeleton crew is another one, right that it all connects to.

What's the chance has been now with Mandalorian, with Mandelor now kind of united and Bo kind of run in the shop with the, it seems like, both factions together on Mandelor and now that it's restored. What's the chances we see Bo in Asoka? What's the chances we see Bo and the Mandalorians in a skeleton crew? I mean, there's only so much you can tell us, but like what, uh, what's, what do you think? Look, I think it's all possible.

Yeah. You know, I think it's all possible. I've said this from day one. As long as she's alive, she works in this world. Right. So I don't know. We'll have to see. Like it's definitely above my pay grade.

Yeah, but it's possible. But it's, anything's possible. Anything is possible. And then Favro- Including Paz coming back. Hold your breath. But you got, so Rick Famuia did a, I was, have I pronounced that right?

Famoyua. Famo Yuma, because I always say it, and I always try to say it fast enough so people don't really know if I'm saying it wrong. I know, I have to slow down, yeah. I say fast so people don't know if saying it wrong. But I think he's amazing. He's really great.

Executive producer this time around. A lot of responsibility. Yeah, so he does episode one, seven and eight. And then so. But on set for everything. Okay. So tell me that because this is what I've been saying and you can either say no comment,

you can say whatever, or you can just tell me if you're able to say it. The way that it looks like to me, and I said this other day on, I don't know if it was my live streamer on this show, mathematically, with everything coming up, You've got Asoka coming up in August. So I've worked in production. I've worked.

What would make sense is that Dave Filoni was most likely doing a lot of prep work and stuff for Asoka because he's his baby, loves it. And then mathematically, it seems like it would be, minus like, you know, cameos and stuff, it seemed like it would be harder for him to be around. And it also makes sense that Rick was probably on set a lot because his executive producer. And then John was writing every episode too. So was Dave around a lot or was it more so Rick? Was it more so John? How did that work? Every single one of those guys is there every day.

Okay. Oh, okay. It's a huge lot and they're all so busy. Oh, in the area. Got it, got it, got it. And they're all there. It's, it's, it's, if they're not physically on set, they have what I have, which is, and I was watching the doubles play me the entire time. So I could literally call over to another unit. I had it on my phone. I could see what they were doing in live time.

And I could call over and say, tell her to walk like this, tell her to do this. Her hand is a weird way. Got it. So the collaborating at all times. At all times. Got it. Got it. Physically on set every day? Yeah. You know, John is there and Rick is there.

Dave is working on his hook. Working on his butt off. They're all so busy. So he's, so that he's there. He's involved. He's mentally there. He's involved. He just physically, it was hard for him to be there as much.

I saw him every day. Got it. what I mean. Got it. So it's this big collaboration between everybody. But they have a lot going on right now. It would be physically impossible. Especially with this movie amounts now too, right?

I mean, you know, my text to him, Dave, when I found out about this, my literal text to him was like, you never sleep. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't know, you were able to do it for everything you had to do this season, I'm sure. We talked about that last time. So let's transition to that a little bit too because you got a little one. at home. And this was a pretty,

I mean, this was all you this season. So it's pretty involved. So how do you balance it? I have, you know, the most supportive, amazing husband that I could ever have hoped for.

He is there every day, was there every day with her. You know, I also am blessed that we had a night nurse in the beginning. Right, right. So, you know, financially that was something that we could do, which saved us. So for the first four months, you know, we were not doing nights except on weekends.

And that helped tremendously. And on days when I had really, really hard stuff to do, the next day at work, I slept downstairs. And, you know, Robin did nights. I did not do one night until our daughter was like four months old. Right. I mean, that's a partnership. It is. It really, really, really is. that's just what you have to do.

Like, you know, it's not about keeping score. It's about coming together as a partner and figuring out, okay, I got her this day, you got her this day, I got this, I got this. We divide and conquer. That's what it's about. 100%. You know, and because I didn't carry my daughter physically, we, it's the great equalizer, I think, in my mind that, that, you know, we were, we were at level playing field.

The moment our daughter was handed to us, you know, we were both for the first time touching our daughter. And that, I think, put us on a very, very even plain field where, you know, he had no, no, I had, we had, our bonds were the same. Like, it was such a beautiful thing because he, he had this intense, beautiful, I loved seeing their bond, you know, that first four months, because he had so much time with her. And it was this amazing thing. And it was hard though. There were times where like I would just get home from work and like be sobbing. Yeah. Because I felt like I hadn't seen her. Um, you know, or times where I didn't want to go in and pick her up and hold her because she was sleeping and he would remind me she's a month old. She's not gonna, if you wake her up, she's gonna go right back to sleep. You go in and you pick up your daughter. That's what you have to do. But it doesn't, but it's, it's, it's that, it's that, it's also absolutely pure for you to feel that way too because it's like this is your, you're, everything. I always tell people that conversation with the person recently who had a newborn. I was like, your life changes like that. And it's not about you anymore. And even though like,

like, so you're doing these things, what used to be, you know, 15 years ago for you. Yeah. These jobs were for you. Yeah. This job is now for them. It's not. Yeah. 100%. And that's what, that's what my husband said every single day that I got home work. He said, you're doing this for our family. 100%. That is what you're doing. And I was like, okay. And that's why he's able to do, what he's able to say, no, I got this because I know what you're doing now. You're not doing this for selfish needs. You're not doing this for ego. You're not doing this.

You're doing this to help us, you know, with the family in general. So I'm going to do my thing. Yeah. It's awesome. But at the end of the day, you know, we have such an honest communicative relationship. There were times where I would come home exhausted and I would want to complain to my partner. Yeah. And it was hard for him because he was like, if you come home,

and you just want to, it can't be, it has to be worth it. You have to go to work and not feel guilty and not care that you have to just go. Right. Because if you are feeling guilty and wanting to be here, why am I the one sacrificing so you can go do that? Yeah. So he was like, just go. You make the most of it. Go do this.

You're 15 minutes away from us. They would come to work a lot of the times. Right. And he was like, that's what it's going to be right now. This is what it is right now. And it was amazing. It was, it was, I'm so blessed to, to, you know, be able to make the decisions that I make. And then as soon as the show was over, I haven't worked for a year.

And that was a choice that I got to make. I've been with my daughter every single day. And then so I guess, but it's, and it's combined no, too, because once the show starts coming out, I mean, even this for you is, is work because it's like a promotion of the show and talking to them to you. It's like different phases on how that works, right? Yeah. So it's, yeah, it's pretty nuts how that all works. And like, did you think, though, too?

Because like I said, I've known you now for, it's coming up on, shit, man, 17 years. Yeah, which is not. I'm going to say almost like 20 years. It's something like that, yeah. So, and I've known you through different periods and everything, too. Did you ever think, though, that by certain times in your life, when you're going through, whether it's certain relationships, certain things, you go, I don't know if the family thing is for me. I don't know if it's just going to be career.

I don't know. Like, did you see the different levels? Because we've all been through different relationships where you go, I'm in this relationship, I think is going to work. And then this other one, that doesn't work. And then you're like, well, it's about my work now. And then you find someone like Rob. Yeah.

And then you get, you know, and then I have your child. Did you see it coming? Did you were ever doubtful or did you always know that it was going to happen if you will, that to happen? I always knew that I would be a mom. I didn't know how it was going to look. You know, I think one of the things that happen when you, and I'm generalizing now, when I, when I was told that I wouldn't be able to carry because of the health issues that I've had in my past,

feeling utterly devastated. Yeah. And then immediately saying, okay, well, how do I, how can I then be a mother now? What do we do now? Because I wanted to be a mom so bad. But, you know, I just didn't know if it was ever going to work out. And, and, you know, I was in a relationship. It didn't work.

I was, you know, did a lot of therapy to get through that relationship because it was not good. But I would not have ended up with my husband had I not dated somebody who didn't treat me well. Right. You know, like I recognized in my husband the moment. I met him that he was a good man and not just like oh he's nice I've dated nice guys I never dated someone who was inherently kind who was just a good kind person right and I knew it the moment I saw him and I as soon as I got out of my own way because I was trying to convince myself that that wasn't for me that I didn't deserve that but that in some way like like I didn't

I didn't, you know, I hadn't earned a good guy. The moment I shut that up and, like, grabbed on to him, I was like, I am never letting this person go. He's such a good, nice man. Never would have dated a nice guy had I not been completely fucked. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, I understand.

It's like, I always say that same thing. It's like, you can't judge, you can't judge your past if you don't, if you can't see the future, right? You just can't because all those moments, So I went through some shit at one point and then thought, well, the hell with this. And then had those moments not happened, it doesn't lead you to that point. But it also, I will say that, and Katie was talking about it as far as therapy, as far as talking, as far as acknowledging it. And that's why I actually think it's a great transition to tell you guys a little bit more about BetterHelp,

who I know in general has helped out people on this show and can help you. Let me tell you about Better Help. This episode is brought to you by Better Help. You guys know how I have been talking about Better Help, how it has helped people on this show, how it has helped a lot of you. And now we can tell you more once again about Better Help because getting to know yourself, it can be a lifelong process,

especially because we're always growing and we're always changing. How I was, shoot, two years ago, significantly different to how I am. today because you're always learning that's why you're saying to yourself later on oh man if I would have just done that back in the hindsight's 2020 but if you can do things to help yourself then why not do it and therapy is all about deepening your self-awareness and understanding because sometimes you don't always know what you want and you don't always know why you react the way you do until you talk through things and this is what I love about better help it connects you with a licensed therapist who can take you on that journey of self-discovery

from wherever you are so I've talked about this you guys know about this. Roxy reached out to BetterHelp. She has been doing, she's been thriving since she's been talking to Better Help. I talk to her about it all the time and she loves it. She loves the therapist that they matched her with and it's so amazing as a friend as someone as someone who cares about Roxy deeply to see that and I want you guys to have the same experience. If you're thinking of starting therapy, give Better Help a try. It's online. It's convenient, it's flexible and it's suited to your schedule. Discover your potential with Better Help. Go and visit at betterhelp.com slash big thing. And when you do, you get 10% off your first month. Betterhelp.com

slash big thing. All right. Thank you again to our friends over at BetterHelp. I'm not joking. I've talked about it. I mean, shoot, it's been open enough to where Roxy has talked about it and it's been helping her tremendously. Talk to somebody. If you have an opportunity to do it and it's so easy, we love working with BetterHelp. Please, please, please, please go and check them out. The link is in the description. Okay. Let me bring up, let's talk about this Star Wars Celebration and then we'll give away the helmet. All right. So Star Wars Celebration, London. Now, am I wrong, were you already supposed to go to London or you were just planned to go there just for celebration? No, I was going just for celebration. Okay, okay. And so how was it this year? I heard it was like

smaller than normal, but it was still, but I heard it's pretty, pretty infectious as far as the reception. and stuff. Yeah, you know, celebration is always so weird because it's, it's owned by, like, it's divided up in a very strange way. Like read pop and stuff, right. And Lucas and Reed Pop and like all of these. So you never quite understand, you know, who's, who wants you there and what's happening. Like, are you signing? I don't know. Like, it's just, because it's, it comes down to what the powers that be decide and there's multiple people and multiple entities that have to determine that. So, I knew that I was going to sign. I learned later that I was going for Lucas.

Okay. But it was pretty soon after I knew I was going to be there for signing. Yeah. And it was, it's always fun. It was smaller. It was smaller. But yeah, but it was pretty, it seemed like it was a lot of fun, as always, too.

And then he did the, how was the reception? By the audience, I guess it's star rest of celebration. You probably just lost their minds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think it was a little split, like you said. I think there were some people that were, you know, super excited and love the show. And then there were others that were like, me, I'm here for Battlestar.

I loved, by the way, when you were on, you were on, and I saw, on the stage. And when, I think it was Christy who had asked you and said, so say we all on stage. Because you started, you started with, this is the way. She said, are we going to say it? Yeah. And I sort of stole her thunder. You said this is the way And then when she threw out

So, say, well, I was like, I was like, good, good for her. That was amazing. Just throw that in there. Because the props on that as show is, is there anything, is there anything you think could? Because I feel there's reboots left and right and multiverses and things that happen. Is there anything that can happen again with BattleStory? You think that the ship has sailed? Well, someone's rebooting it.

Yeah, I know. Like, is it Sam Ramey or something like that? But I don't know. I don't know. Would you want to go back to that world? I don't know. She was so angsty. I think it was super fun.

Yeah. I think it was super fun. But, I mean, she's so bipolar. You don't want to go back to that spot. I needed therapy, like, just when that was over. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I have the ability to play that character anymore. About Riddick?

What's going on in Riddick? You survived in that. I must have upset somebody over there because I didn't die and I'm not back. So, I don't know. Maybe I didn't kiss the ring. Amazing. Well, look, we have something

that we're going to be able to give away here too, but we are going to do in the last show, when Katie was on, she very generously, she said, look, I have a helmet

that I have the Boca Tan helmet that I'm going to autograph and I will, I'll give it away on the show. I said, it's amazing. So we asked you guys, said, look, we're going to ask for comments

on it. We're going to go through it. It's got to hit 2,000 comments in order to, be a contest and it did. It's over 2,000 comments. The episode did really, really well. And so we went through them. We went through them. We're going to actually let Katie read off both the username that won the helmet and then we're going to get your information and we'll ship it on out to you. But, all right, Katie, you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. All right, here we go. Let's see. So we'll go with the

Oh my God. I need my glasses. I know the Christians making it figures so I can see. Wow. Here's the name first. I have my sonny. I was going to put them on so I can have my prescription. Okay, wait. Rogue Ninja 93. All right, here we go. So you're ready?

I'll move it to the left so you can go. Okay. I missed her signing after she had to back out of San Francisco Fan Expo last year. FYI, I'm coming back. So it would be amazing to win her helmet. Here is this here in this. I've been a fan of her character and voice work. since Clone Wars and continue to be a big fan of hers in Mandalorian, loved the interview,

and it was fun to hear a little about what's going on in her life. Can't wait for the next one. All right. So congratulations to the Rogue Ninja 93. You're going to get the signed Bo Catan helmet, and we're going to send it out to you. So we'll reach out to you, Rogue Ninja, and get your information. So you're going to look out there for that. But it ain't over. Because when, Katie showed up today. She goes, look, I had some stuff that I was thinking it would be fun to maybe sign and do a new giveaway. So we're going to do that.

And let me show you. Brett, I want you to do my favorite. I'll get it. I want you to entertain the audience. Oh, yeah. Well, I just feel like Christian just stole all my questions that I had for you, and I just had to sit here quietly and listen. I feel like you have a question, though, like a burning question.

Ask him a question. What is this show, Mandor? Come on. No, I love it. And I love that I got to be on the show and meet you. And then when we were sitting there, I had so much like, look at you. Oh, wait, at the premiere. At the premiere.

I was rooting for you. Because you were like, does that bitch ever smile? No, you were just. He was watching that episode. Like, I just went to watch my daughter in Mary Poppins. Yes. And that's the same face. When he went, after that interview, he's watching you going, oh, my God, that's Katie.

And he was so excited. It's like, you root for the good ones. You root for the good ones. And you are. And I just, I love listening to you because you seem very put together. And I love what you said about, you know, your husband. And I, I tell my wife all the time she doesn't deserve me. You know, I mean, and that's true.

She doesn't deserve a nice guy. I met your wife. It's true. She didn't have the lesson of the asshole before. No, she actually did. Did she? Oh, that's when you swoop in as the nice guy. It's when you swoop.

You got to swoop fast, too, but not too soon because then you're a rebound. Been there before. You got to swoop in like a real good time. You got to be like you got to wait. You got to sort of pretend like you're not interested. And then as soon as they feel like, you know, they're ready to get back in the dating, you just sort of go, you pretend to be like their best friend. And you're like, what's happening?

And then you swoop. That's how you did it. And that's exactly when people go, how did you get that? gal. I'm like, well, you know, she did it some ables. And the only reason I said that your wife, you're right, she doesn't drive because I know she doesn't watch the show. Yes.

So I know she's not going to be able to come after me. All right. So let's show, Katie, what did you bring for us today? So I am cleaning out my garage. And I'm going to start putting all of this stuff up on my website and the money's going to go to charity and it's all going to be signed. But I thought I'd bring some stuff here. Yeah.

So we have talking about Riddell. Riddick. We have a signed copy of Riddick. Yeah. And a signed copy of Oculus. Yeah, man. If you haven't seen this movie, this is amazing. Yeah.

And this is a big one. OG. This is a big one. This is a big one. A signed whole first season of Battlestar Galactica. So if you haven't seen that, here's your chance. I don't know. Do people even have DVD players anymore?

Of course they do. We do, right? I mean, you can remember because a lot of them can play out in the video game console. Yeah, too. Right. Is that Blu-Wray or DVD that one? Oh, they're probably all DVD.

That's right. I don't even know if Blu-ray existed. Back then, I mean, either way. Is that the way? I think it's also about something, like, look, I just, and you commented on it, like, for example. Yeah, it's Blu-ray. Yeah, it's Blu-ray. That's Blu- Right.

So I think this is Blu-ray. Either way, it doesn't matter. The point is, so I'm not a big comic book guy now these days, my friends, my friends are, and I have a show that I do that I learn about comics through them, but can't a read was doing the signing for this berser which I've had a chance to read because Boom Studios has been sponsoring the show and they do such great stuff. But like I said, even though I had this comic book

that I normally wouldn't get because just not the first thing I run out to get, but I have it signed by him. It's like a prize for this. So imagine getting the Battlestar Galactica first season by Katie Sackoff, Riddick, Oculus. So this is great. So we're going to do the same exact thing

that we did last time, except this time there's going to be three winners. So we're going to do the same thing. You've got to comment on, you can be about anything inside of the show what we talked about today. It can be anything about Mandalorian. It can be anything in general that you want to talk about. And we'll go through it. And this time there's going to be three winners. There's going to be three winners. But it's got to get to 2,000 comments again. Once it gets to 2,000 comments, we're going to pick the winners. But you've got three particular winners here. And you're going to get a signed copy of Oculus. You're going to get a signed

copy of Ridic. And you'll get a signed copy of Battlestar Galactica, season one by Katie Sackoff herself. I can't believe you got to meet Keanu Reeves, by the way. I just want to talk about that for one second. What was that like? The coolest. Everything that you think he is like, he is like. I saw him at the gym once. Like 20 years ago.

It came up like on his motorcycle at the gym and I was like weak in the knees. Like a gorgeous human being. But even more so when you talk to him, right? Because he's so passionate about Berserker when we went there. And again, I always

assume if I've told the story once that people have heard it, but I talked about it on my live stream, but it was Boom Studios sponsored, they're great, they're such a, like, you will wind up doing something with them. They have so many different genres in like horror and science fiction, and they're making a lot of different stuff. They're going to be, they're

quickly moving in a direction that it's like, meteor, media. And so they have this thing that Keanu created for them called berserker. Right, and so he's already working on the movie, and all this stuff too, but he was so involved in it. So they called me up on, and they said,

hey, on Wednesday, we have this kind of pop-up event that's going to be very small. But you want to come in and be like one of the first people in and talk to him. And yeah, definitely. So I went in and we had like, I think I was talking to Corey, we didn't between like 10 and like 15 minutes. That's a good amount of time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were, because we were just bullshitting with him for a bit and we were just talking about the passion of the project that he was working on. I brought up, you know, not to dive deep into John Wick, but I said, like, the question I had for you is that, I know how involved you were like developing all this. But when you are and you're working on John Wick,

very similar to what you were just talking about. Like how do you balance that? He's like, because I love it. Yeah. And he's like, because he loves it. You have to love it. Yeah. You have to.

Yeah, he was rushing to the thing to go there to work. Because he said, look, I didn't do this by myself. I had like great artists. I had another writer. And we were just and Koi asked a lot of kind of detailed questions about the comic in general. But like he was just, yeah. But it was just when you go in there, you wonder,

is he just going to be kind of like, yeah, all right, great, I'll sign it. What do you want to know, nerds? Not at all. Not at all. Just engaged one another conversation. Winston, who's on the show as well on Fridays, was the first person in, and he was just talking to Winston for a bit. And like, just like, he didn't seem like a movie star.

I mean, it looked like a movie star, but he didn't seem like a movie star. He just seemed like a guy that was there to just talk about his comic book. And what you said before was listening, right? Like just listening, having that conversation and engaging. And that's, that's, I was a fan, major fan before. I'm even more of a fan now. Yeah. No, he, he seems like, you know, if the world lived according to Keanu, we might all be a little happy, right?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's like, yeah, me and Matthew McCona. His answers, can't hear me. But his, his answers, answers in interviews, like, what the hell was it? It was some question like Drew Barrymore asked him one time in his show about love or something. I can't remember what it was. And it was just such like a Zen, like, damn it, you know, people can't be that cool. He's just so cool.

Like if he thought Clooney was cool. Yeah. Cam was just cool. You know what though? Like talk about a person who has experienced some heavy loss in his life, right? So this is the kind of thing that I talk about a lot that if life happens around you, whether you let it or not. And if you allow experiences to break you, it's letting the shit with. in, right? You take those experiences and those losses. You don't get over it. They become a part of you.

Right. You become a more evolved human being when you allow those, those moments to change you and force you to grow. And I mean, I would imagine that you would, you would learn a lot about love having so much loss. 100%. Absolutely. And it's also, but it also shows the character of a human being on how they deal with that loss, right? Like, yeah. It can be anger. You know, it could be, you know, you get to a place where you can really learn from it. And there's a lot of people who don't learn from it. They just, they just see red from it all the time. I mean, I've talked about this after when I lost both, like John Schnepp, who is a close friend,

and then my brother within the course of a month. And for over a year, year and a half, all I saw was red. And eventually you can't live like, you get yourself in trouble if you do that. And I think that there's ways, like you said, like it will turn you into a different person. And it just, you have to be in control of how that works. It's hard, you know, I, when I lost such a close friend who took his own life, you know, I was talking to my mother about it and I was like, I don't know how I'm going to get over this. And she said, you're not going to get over it.

This loss will become a part of you and you will find a way to put one foot in front of the other and move forward. Right. But it will always be a part of you. And that is one of the things that makes you a more evolved human being, a better parent, a better artist, a better friend. When you experience those losses in life, because then you understand how rare life is, how special it is, and how fleeting it is. You know, you hold on to the good things a lot harder. And it's also age, right? It's also a matter of experience and everything, too.

look we got a lot of this conversation today man I'm excited that you were able to come in I'm excited I'm excited that we were able to talk about mandolian I'm I can't wait to see what the hell happens in the in in the future with Bo I can't wait and is there anything I'm trying to think if there's anything else we missed the fans are going to yell at us that we didn't ask but like we talked about I know that we hit the dark saber we hit all the stuff is there anything in general that we missed on the season I don't think so I think we hit all the big moments like the yeah I think we hit it Katie so you got to come back again we got to see you again soon on the next project.

And can the thumbnail just be you sitting on the couch the way you sat on the throne? It should be. You might have just made the, you might have just made it. He was, he was joking and serious at the same time. That's going to be the thumbnail. It's going to absolutely be the thumbnail. Katie Sackoff, returning and see you. Well, thank you once again for joining us.

It's always a pleasure. I'm glad that you were able to come in here. I'm glad that I really, I know that when we hear you talk about it, it's always great on, as Brett said, like just to learn more about you and a reason why they fell in love with you, but it's also very encouraging for people who may be following you for the first time to just said, hey, as Bocatan, I like the thing, and then learning more about that journey, the struggles that we all have. So thank you for sharing that. I really appreciate it. And maybe think twice about making ball bag comments about such a nice person.

That's right. That's your thing, right? You know what at the end of the day, the biggest lesson I've learned from social media and from life in general? Stay off of it. Well, stay off of it. But a therapist told me this a long time ago. You have to stop trying to figure out why other people do what they do. You have to figure out why you're okay with it and why you allow it into your life. So I just look at it now when somebody says something really mean about me, I take a deep breath and I go, wow, it must be really, really hard. There was a woman, sorry to change this up, but there was a woman who on a Saturday afternoon got on social media to talk terrible shit about me. And I was going to respond. And then I thought to myself, wow, imagine on a Saturday afternoon.

Saturday afternoon going online to pick fights with people because you need to be seen. Yeah. That's really sad. Yeah. And I dropped it. Yes. And it's also, look, and adding to that. Yeah.

The other thing is, who knows what she went through that day? Exactly. Who knows what happened in that morning that maybe she got into a fight with someone. Maybe she didn't feel loved. Maybe something happened. She turned on the TV. She saw you and you were the first person she wanted to take it out on. So it is too easy to respond in as opposed to saying exactly what you just did, which is, hold on a second.

I don't know what that person's going through. And it is mentally healthier for you to step away from it. Because as you said, I can't even tell you the amount of positive things. Like when you go through that last interview that we did, it's showered with love. The amount of stuff that I've seen about Boca Tan the season, shower with love. Regardless, as I said, regardless of people that maybe didn't, then, that said, not my favorite out of three, but if I saw and I gave you a dollar for every person that said,

but Katie, Bo Catan. So take that with you because it is, it is, I'm telling you, it's real, I've seen it, and the way that you, and look, there are ball bags everywhere you go. Here you call them ball bags. Everywhere you go, there are ball bags, and they're not going to go anywhere, especially with social media, but I'm glad that you, the way you powered through it, and congratulations on what you did this season. You were fantastic.

The character was amazing. And we hope that we're going to see her kick a lot of ass on Mandalore and on all that. And maybe I thought she was going to write the Mythosaur. Was there any talk about that? I mean, there's only so much I'm going to say. Damn it. All right, fine. And I think it's, you guys, we got out of this episode.

It's not too many spoilers, to be honest. There's really not. We didn't like. Well, then spoil. No, I don't want to. Come on. We talked about spoilers inside of the, I mean, like the actual episodes themselves. Like, you saw them.

I thought the most amazing part of that episode was when they had sex. So people were talking about that, though. So Laura Kelly, who is someone who, it was one of the best Star Wars competitors we ever had in Shmodeon. And she's a massive Boca Tan fan. She was shipping din and Boeim, so a lot of people were. Was that ever a conversation or never a conversation? It was a conversation for sure. It was for sure a conversation.

And there's a scene of Brendan actually grabbing Beau's face and kissing me in like an off take. It was so funny because it was like right there the entire time. We were joking about it that whole time. And then I was like, could you imagine having sex? And he's like, I can't take my helmet off. Yeah, right. But she's like staring at herself. Or she just has a closer on it.

Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. You like, very sexily. It would be like, what was that? The gray movie. the one, the Anastasia with the gray room, the red room, the book, the Mr. Gray. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. Fancy Shades of Grey.

Thank you. It's like, you know, he's got to wrap like something around her. Or he goes, wait, she shows up in like lingerie and just a helmet and he goes, you know what, I'm taking the helmet off. Fuck, just take me back to the water later. Yeah, yeah. Did you imagine? They just had sex in the water.

Yeah, he's like, first of all, just do it in the water. Yeah. He's like, Mithesaur's, like, Mithisaur's. watching, hey buddy, got a show. For anyone who's tried that, don't, it doesn't work. No, but there was actually conversation about it. Like, how serious was it? No, I mean, I think the conversation literally was as much as like, well, like, how do we do this?

Then we have to get in the entire conversation of like, what do they wear? Yeah. Do they, are they in their, are they in their uniforms? Are they in their, what are they? Like, and I think it just like went away. Okay. Well, there you go. There you go.

So everybody who was shipping Dinn and Bo, your dreams were. crushed. You never know. You never know. That's right for now. But we'll see. Guys, thank you for joining us. Thank you to Katie Sackoff. Thank you to Brett. Thank you to all you guys. And congratulations to the winner of the helmet. Congratulations to the future. Winner of the signed content that Katie brought here today. And again, remember, put those comments in here. Once we hit 2000, we're going to get to the three winners of the Blu-ray slash DVDs. So thanks again, guys. And don't forget, man. We're going to be there. Burbank April 28th going to be stand-up comedy there's going to be a live show

all that more hit that button show a little class first time here let's get us to a hundred thousand Spotify we're on Spotify video all that more you guys are the best thanks again we'll see on the flip side peace