The Kristian Harloff Show - The Star Wars Rey Movie will tie in to the James Mangold Dawn of The Jedi film!

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

Join the site: www.thekristianharloff.com The new Star Wars movie comes out in 2026 and will have Rey again. Kathleen Kennedy says that it will be a new era, the jedi will be reestablished and it will tie into the new Mangold movie. How will that happen? Diego Luna talks Andor season 2 and potentially being nominated. The SAG strike is looming. Will it happen and what does it mean for the business? Join Kristian Harloff and Steph Sabraw on todays episode of The Big Thing! #starwars #sag #strike #lucasfilm #badbatch  This episode is brought to you by  Better HelP: http://www.betterhelp.com/bigthing RUMPL: http://www.rumpl.com/thebigthing ATHLETIC GREENS:  http://www.drinkag1.com/bigthing OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. It's Wednesday. There's a lot to talk about. I can do a social media reaction, quick thoughts on Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. I put my head to the theater last night. Superman has been cast. There's some news on the Daisy Ridley movie.

Does it tie in? Is it a new saga? What is it? Kathleen Kennedy talks a little bit about that. Some new Asoka News. There's a gallery series on the Mandalorian. James Bond, Idris Elba said, I was pretty turned off about it after all the backlash,

and I don't care anymore. I'm losing interest, and I don't blame him. So we'll talk about that and more on today's show. And if you didn't know, ladies and gentlemen, Katie Sackoff's podcast is officially launched. She launched it today on her YouTube channel, blah, blah, blah, with Katie Sackoff. It is on the channel now,

and we're going to be going to San Diego Comic Con July 22nd, 4 to 6 p.m. The tickets are almost sold out. There's about 20 tickets left for the live in person. However, you can see the live streaming. You can also, Katie's doing this whole car ride there, and you can be in the car with her on the phone, or your computer, wherever you watch your live streams.

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What up, everybody? Welcome back. It's the big thing. Wednesday. I was sitting in 2003, the year of our Lord. More people need to say that. Why don't we just do that one?

Dear Jesus Christ. Hi, Steph. Hey, how are you? Four pound, eight ounce. What's that? It's me butchering the prayer in Talladega nights.

Oh, guys. You know, I've seen that movie, I think, once. It's so your humor, I feel. No? Maybe. I mean, I like, I like, silly Will Ferrell stuff for sure. I think it's maybe because I don't it's not a big NASCAR guy. Oh, neither am I. That's why I think it's funny. I have to watch it again. You do. It was a long

time ago. And I remember Anchorman I love and when I saw it the first time, thought it was okay. And it's so funny because I am in the minority right now and I will talk very briefly about this because the review embargo lifts soon, but Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. I thought it was fine. Fine. People, Roxy, would have thrown me in jail for what I, she's like, really? I loved it. And I was like, holy crap. A Maverick level? It's not Maverick level.

But for her? Maybe. I think that, for me, I think, I don't know, I have to let her answer that question. My thing with the movie, as I said in the out of the theater is that I think it's definitely a part one. It's a part one. So I could very well like it way better after I see part. part two. Right.

Because it combines. My biggest issue, like, if you're going there for the stunts and the action and just like summer blockbuster movie, it's a 10 out of 10. Yeah. As far as that goes. 10 out of 10. Great. And the funny thing is I was thinking about it last night.

I like it better than The Flash. I like it better than, um, than, um, what's the other one? Indiana Jones. Okay. No, I don't know yet. It's so funny because I said that my, my, after reviewing things in my head after sitting with a little bit too, I can. I don't know, because the ending,

the ending of The Flash isn't great, but I like the movie. I really like the movie a lot. I don't give a show what people say. It's a really good movie. But this movie is a really good movie, but I think that the, I expect more in a mission impossible.

I expect, I expect more, like, clever. I expect the missions to be cooler. And it's like, it seems, it's very spectacle to me. And someone was like, well, you felt that way about Fallout. Hell, no, I didn't. Okay. Fallout, I thought was pretty clever. It just, there's a couple times, I'm like, is it, like, there is a scene that is insane and it's so much action, but it felt, I felt like I just saw this scene in Fast and Furious, the most recent one.

Oh, interesting. Yeah. But I will say this, Haley Atwell is next level hot. Oh, really? Holy crap. I don't even know if I know what she looks like. Peggy Carter. Oh, yeah.

Next level. Next level hot. She's getting married. I love her. Does she have a British accent in it? Yes. Next level. That will get me.

Next level. Yeah. Because Roxy was like, really? She's like, I think you would like Rebecca Ferguson more. I think Rebecca Ferguson is very classy and a great actress. But no. Haley out was just like, wow. And like, Jennifer Garner has this thing too.

We're like, like wine. Oh, yeah. You know? Yes. Yes. I know exactly what you mean. There are people that sometimes just look hotter as they age. And that's, I want.

that power. Well, I never saw. It was funny because when I was younger and Jennifer Garner, I was like, yeah, okay. And then as she got, as her career progressed, I was like, whoa. And then I saw her once. I was going to, I don't know, we were some beach with my family and we're going

some coffee shop and she was just, there were the kids and she's, but a stunning, just a stunning woman. Yeah. Stunning woman. But, yeah, but Haley Atwell, my goodness, she's great in the movie, but I can't wait to see it. What do you think about? I feel like there's this new thing where there's all these part ones and part two's of like dune across the spider

versus like that missions like that yeah i mean it depends like is it is it necessary is the is should be the first question for spider verse i think it's necessary it's a three-parter although you heard what's going on with that right oh yeah the animators right animators says there's some shit going down behind the scenes that's that's part one um part two is that there's they're pushing to come out in March of 2024. Now, someone said it was a fake account that posted this,

but someone said it was coming out now in 2026. And that, I mean, that's a significant jump song. I don't think, I don't know how true that is. That'd be crazy. But it's getting pushed because of all the drama plus the strikes

and all that stuff. But as far as your question goes, I think that if it's relevant, right? Like, Dune, Dune makes sense. Yes. Because Dune is a very, very long book, and it can be split into two parts. Now, they shouldn't do what they did

with, like, the hot. it and turn it into three books, three movies. That's unnecessary. But as far as Mission Impossible, I don't know. I got to see the second half of it. They left it open. And there's a, I mean, again, the action is next level, top notch, amazing. It's just, if I was just going there for that, I would be like, yeah, that's exactly

what I want. I just, I like when it's really, those mission, like the certain things that they have to set up a, so, like, oh, how do they think about that? How clever that is. Right. I love that. I love that part of Mission Impossible. And it was just, that part of it was just, okay.

And I guess like the main, like kind of thing they're going up against, I was just like, this isn't a spoiler or anything you can't talk about because they're talking about it in the articles. It's AI again, right? Everybody's doing AI now because everyone's scared of AI. And to be fair to them, they set it up way before I think the whole big AI craze started. But like, it's just like, I don't know, it seems far-fetched, but maybe it isn't. Yeah. You know, I don't know.

I don't think of it. I have to see the movie, but I feel like anything's possible. It's true. I feel like conspiracy theorist when I think about it. I don't think you're the only one. Right? I don't think you're the first time where I'm like, wow, I'm really going down that rabbit hole with it. It's true.

Yeah, because it's nuts because we don't really know about it. And you look, I mean, it is when you put in, if I put Steph's sitting on a beach, Steph's the bra sitting on a beach with a Pena and Calada, you know, with a Star Wars shirt on. and put a picture of you and they can generate that and do that picture. That's crazy. Crazy. And it can do it within minutes. And I was telling, I told, I don't remember, I think it was Roxie.

I can't remember who I told it on the air. But I wanted to do this experiment. So I put in something about my family and nothing about what they do or anything, too, but they wrote that Vivian was 11 or 12 years old and she wanted to be an actress. follow in my footsteps and she also had a big personality and that my youngest daughter is more reserved and not and it was like spot on and I don't have a lot of public information about my kids like at all minus the stuff that I talk about on this show like this and other things and it's like it took five minutes for and like that's the kind of stuff I guess the mission possible it is it's

like when you have when the when the AI has access to everything every computer every this details right and it's like and it's able to generate and go hold on let me let me let me think is what takes us we got to Google it we got to look and then we'll come back with the information as opposed to when they're thinking when AI is thinking it's going wait access access access spit it out this is why you asked a while ago what would be your superpower

yeah and I there's this movie I think on Disney channel back in the day where this guy got computer plugs stuck like in his head and it electrocuted him, but he basically had the power of a computer. I love that. And I wanted that because that's basically what AI does. He can scan in for me, anything. Anything.

Yeah. Anything. He can just read and it's already plugged in. He's just a center full. I still think Roxy's a lunatic. The power I want is evil. Yeah, it's not evil. It's not evil.

It's just, it's any power can be used for evil. Right. Any power. It's like, well, if I said, well, if I said, well, if I said, well, I want super strength. She wouldn't say that would be evil. What if I, super strength to run around and bash people's skulls in or cars in while they were in it? Well, then that's evil.

Right. But if it's like a matter of like whatever power you have, it's like, it's not a matter of like, well, my power is to convince staff to jump on the table and bark. That's that, no, it's a matter of in conversation. We're talking and I'm like, do you want to jump on the table and barking? Like, no. Well, why? Well, because this, we had a conversation about it. And then I, it's like basically what we're just talking about.

accessing the right information. Right. Like if like I was like, okay, well, I want to get Steph to get me a coffee right now. Go get me a coffee. Like no, first of all, fuck you. Second of all, we're taping a show. Right. And I'd be like, but if I said to you, hey, I'm really thirsty.

I'm dying right now. Would you do me a favor? Could you do that for me? And, you know, I'll give you five bucks to get yourself something as well too. I'm sorry. I'm just, I'm so stressed out. The type person you are, you're like, okay. Of course.

It's not a manipulation if it was really thirsty. Yeah. And it's a manipulation if I just want to see if I can get you to do it. Right. Right. But it's, it's that thing. And so imagine you can walk in and you're like, okay, I'm going to tell, I'm going to get a, I'm going to find, I'm going to be able to use the words to get myself a meeting with Putin and not get killed and then tell him to resign. Right.

And but I'm going to have to do it. It's not hypnotizing him. It's having the right words in conversation. You've been on first dates before and you're like, shit. If I would have said that instead of that, this state would have went better. Right. But I said the wrong fucking thing. Right.

Words can be taken. That's all I'm saying. Like the power of words knowing the right things to say, not manipulation, just being able to access the right information. No, that seriously has caused fights in my lifetime where I'm like, but why did you say that that way? Right. Right. But I didn't mean that. I'm like, but you said it.

But you said it that way. So now it's done. But the same way in comedy, if you say things with a particular, like someone can say something that would piss you off, but if someone said something in a different tone, comedically, it wouldn't piss you off. And that's what is so fascinating to me. That's always what I talked about within the power of words. It's like, yes, you can use anything for evil purposes or manipulative or manipulation of power purposes. But to be able to actually say, okay, you know what, I'm going to go into this meeting and I want to pitch my, I have a, I have a show that I think's really good, right? But I got to know the right words to say, because if I don't, they're going to hear it a thousand different times. It's like, well, yeah, but he just, it was the way that he pitched it. It was the things that he said.

It wasn't like, magical powers by my shows. No way, I just accessed the right words. Right. And Roxy's not wrong, which is like, yeah, but that's what dictators can do and other people, well, yeah, because they're using it for that purpose. They're using it for that purpose to be able to, you know, because they're good of the power of words, And there's certain people who are like, look at Obama.

Obama, not the dictator, but as far as he was a really good speaker. And he knew to access words. And what had happened? It got him elected. That's all it is. It's just being able to have that power of words. Yeah. I'm in my sketch writing class.

And it's the first time that I'm really in that zone where you're being vulnerable with jokes and things. And anyone can take it out of context. Sure. And I had one joke that was. it wasn't even, I didn't even think it was towing the line at all, like not even towing the line, but because I couldn't, because we just read them plain, we can't pitch it first,

you can't understand that my character's supposed to be cringe, so she says something that way. And then it's like, even then I don't even want to explain it to you guys. You know, it just, it's, so I feel that I'm like, I wish you guys could have just known what I meant. That's my overall point. But anyway, this is a, Welcome back to the show.

Yeah. And we have a lot to talk about. The first thing I actually wanted to bring up is this story about another comment that Kathleen Kennedy said. She talked about that the new story's movie is going to be a next chapter. I want her to have a podcast that's called All Facts. All Facts, right, Kathleen. It's like, yeah. Straight shooting.

I ain't going there. All right. Kathleen Kennedy, she says that the next Star Wars is a new chapter. This is Garth Franklin over at Dark Horizon. The Skywalker saga came to a close with Star Wars Rise of Skywalker in 2019, but the franchise is set to continue with several new films. The first of these will be the new Jedi Order, and it is a film set 15 years later than the sequel trilogy as it follows Ray, rebuilding the Jedi Order.

Charmino Bay Chenoy will direct the film by a script by Stephen Knight, with the movie looking to likely begin filming in spring 2024 ahead of a 2026 release in May. Speaking with Total Film during the launch of Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Kathleen Kennedy said the movie will be all about

starting the next chapter of the franchise. Kennedy says, I think what's always great about Star Wars is that it's a big galaxy and we're coming off what was a major war with the first order and now Ray has made a promise to Luke and that's really the core of where we're going

and what the story will be. I think it offers just tremendous opportunity to introduce new characters and start with something fresh because we culminated with what George Lucas was creating and now we take all of that, we move it to the next chapter. Kennedy also teased that the film will have connections to one of the other Star Wars films in development right now

in the other timeline. She says it's James Mangels' Dawn of the Jedi movie, which is set 25,000 years before the Skywalker saga. She said it was something that James Mangold immediately sparked to, and I think it's a really nice compliment to do what we're doing with the future with Ray, and then understanding a bit more where this came from because it will be the heart of creating the new Jedi order to get a real sense of what might have become

with the Dawn of the Jedi would be pretty cool. And then there's, probably they talk about the next one in December 18th, 2026, and then Osok is coming out in August. Okay, so, Steph,

this to me is interesting, and like anytime we've talked about Kathleen Kennedy recently, it's been like, like you just said, all right, so is it going to stick? Is this horse crap? Let's be fair to her here. This sounds like the direction they should be going with, right?

It's like, but let's not do this. And I don't think they will, but let's not do this. Let's, okay, we're building out the Jedi order, and she promised it. But there's one student who takes the Jedi order down, and then there's no more Jedi left, and there's only one. Ray gets killed, and then there's this new Jedi that is the last of the Jedi. It's like, please no, just make the freaking Jedi. They're around, they're clear.

They have to fight off some of the ones who are going to the dark side. It's how it is, and she's how it is. and she's rebuilding it because she promised Luke that she would. Don't make one stinking Jedi again running around the place. It's like, let's see what the Jedi are like when they're in power. Yeah, I completely agree. It makes sense. I like the pitch, obviously.

This is really fun, and I think Ray is a good character to do this and to move it forward. But like you said, to move it forward. Because a lot of people's criticism with the sequel trilogy, and rightfully so, is that you're just repeating the same blueprint that we got, right? And so it's, yeah, you just got, you have the whole galaxy, you should expand the storylines. There's so much to be told. That's also what I like what she said about, we're going to have new characters because there's so much only, you don't want to rely on Ray the whole time.

No, no. You want to be able to, because what they should be doing if you want to franchise this era of Star Wars is you've got to give me some new characters that I'm going to care about. And they did it somewhat. Not everybody loves Po Rey and Finn, right? They got to get those characters that the Leia's, the Luke's, the Hans, they got to get people, like, I'm not saying that those characters don't have their audiences. They clearly do. But that kind of universal love that all the Star Wars fans have,

that every Star Wars fan and every political view, Star Wars fan can enjoy. Right. That's not an easy task. That is an almost impossible task. but if they can do it and they can find a new character inside of this and build, that's how you kind of restore in the way that Mandalorians, at least season one and season two did. Yeah, I think it'll be really to that point of making Ray not the central main character.

If she is more, like, Yoda's a main character, right, but he's only in a few scenes. Right. And I think if she's kind of that wisdom that is my favorite parts of the original trilogy, that could be really cool. Because I feel like those parts were kind of missing in the sequel trilogy, those deep conversations, just philosophical conversations about the force.

100%. A lot of that was missing. And I think that that happens a lot of times with big, I said this whole long conversation with Alonzo Duralde, who I love. And we were talking about that very thing.

It's just that there's this lack of understanding that what the audience really wants, that it doesn't just need, if it's a big blockbuster, $200 million, movie that it just has to be the big CGI spectacle and you can dive into those more those conversations like you look at like I think Inception did that very well it's a big blockbuster movie that had those types of conversations and trust the audience they can get it right they can get it it's like

there are sometimes that you're going to go well they're going to find it boring you know but there's like Andor right which that's that's this and that it's like there's some people who just don't want to see that in Star Wars and then there's us who people like us who do yeah but there's also people that you can make it really exciting, a lot of action, but still have those kind of conversations that you're talking about. And I hope that they do that. I mean, I hope that Stephen Knight, who's writing this is able to do that. But I like the direction.

But let's also talk about the fact, what do you think about how it's going to tie into a movie that takes place 25,000 years before with Mangold's film? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, unless they just address going back to the first principles, he talked about making those Ten Commandments of the Force. Maybe they bring that back because Luke burned the books. So maybe they go to that.

But they didn't know. Oh, they didn't actually burn the books. No, remember she had them. Oh, yeah, she took them. Yeah, she took them. Oh, yeah. So I guess that's how you could tie it in. She took them and maybe in those books she found that.

That's tied back to the movie. Right. I think that's interesting. I do. So this interview that she gave is the first time in a while. I'm like, wait, wait a minute. She says this. I'm like, this sounds pretty great.

It sounds like if they execute it the right way. But I think it sounds pretty great. I think it sounds if they can tie it in and they make like, okay, look, so we saw this movie in 2025 or 2026 in March. And it's a brief scene or it's a couple things which is tied into what happened when they first discovered it back 25,000 years ago. Well, that sounds interesting. It's almost like when Obi-Wan is talking to Luke in episode four about the Clone Wars.

You're like, what the hell is the Clone War? Right. And you finally get to see him. That would be interesting if they set that up. And you're like, oh, that, like going into what you just talked about, that conversation that they could have about the force. And you're like, whoa, I wonder what that looks like. Well, I don't worry. In December, you're going to see some of that.

Yeah. Interesting. And they bring up some, the great blah, blah, blah, who did this. And we get to see the great blah, blah, blah. So that would be very, very interesting. That would be really cool. Yeah. Yeah.

I just don't know. I'd like to see it. Yeah, right. It's fingers crossed. I don't know. It's hard to have complete faith in it at the moment. But it sounds good. It sounds fun. All right.

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Also includes Pedro Pascal for Last of Us, Selena Gomez, only murders in the building, Gena Ortega for Wednesday. Luna spoke about the lack of nominations for Latino actors in the lead category, how we could be on the verge of a huge change. And he says, what makes me sad is the fact that the last nomination

for a Latino actor in this category was so many years ago. It's absurd knowing the number of interesting stories that have been told the number of actors who have done memorable jobs, but it's also exciting to know that I'm not the only one and that makes me think that good things are coming for people like me who come for where I come from.

Last but not least, Luno also addressed the elephant in the room for the second season of Andor during the first batch of 12 episodes were introduced to a vast array of characters, most of whom are not in what now is billed of the retroactive series finale, 2016's Rogue 1. That means a new season will have to bring some finality to their arcs,

and while Luna didn't confirm, that probably means tragic ends for some of them. He says it's the balance that makes the series stick. I think that if something characterizes the series, it is the depth it has in the portrait of its characters, being the last season, you get to follow the path of all these characters that you met in the first. Many of them are not in Rogue 1,

and the stories have to be brought to an end. I think we knew that. I don't think you necessarily always want to hear that. That means that Adrian Arjona, probably not going to make it. Bix, goodbye. We know Andy Circus from what they say is, looking he's coming back,

he probably won't make it. Yeah, I just, I want to see the scene. Yeah. I don't need, yeah, or them swimming or something. Something. I'm trying to, I mean, SARS guard would probably be toast. Yeah. Because he's got to be dead.

because for sure he's too powerful Well yeah If he wasn't it's like That guy would be running the shop Right So he's gotta go And yeah And then I think that we're gonna wind up seeing

Ben Mendelsohn I think Ben Mendelsohn's I think Ben Mendelsohn's A if I said okay Here's a thousand dollars Go to Vegas and put it on One thing that you're gonna win on Ben Mendelso's gonna be on the series Yeah

He's especially now he's in Secret Invasion Right The show and yeah He's so good in it He is 100% going to be in this show. Right. Right. Yeah.

He's on set. He's there. Right. And the character is so important, Rogue One. And a loved character. I loved villain. Yeah. And he's...

Because he was obnoxious in a good way. You know? He was that just driven by... Greed. Yeah. Greed and wanted Daddy to like it. Right. I was just thinking Daddy like me.

Yeah. I don't even know who you are. Where is talking? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's 100%. He'll show up. Now, if there's...

Gilroy also hinted that there to be some other characters. I wouldn't mind seeing... Everybody always says this, but... And I'm talking brief. One scene in the same way that they did, like, you know, that there's some great scenes with the conversation. What you were just talking about before,

with these conversations they would have around the table, like the empire. I would love for them be having... one of those big conversations about the rebellion, and Vader, Vader's there with Tarkin. And it's brief. Like Tarkin's the one very similar to episode four.

Tarkin is there leading the whole thing, talking, and then Vader just has a couple lines, same type of thing, maybe choke some other F-L, and then dips. Yeah. And that's all you see. Yeah. It'd be great.

Yeah, I think that would be excellent. I would love that too, especially when he's talking about balance, which I do agree. And it's interesting we were talking about how sometimes the balance didn't work for us. other people in Andor, which it worked for us. But I think that that's what I love about the show is that they have these moments of deep

dialogue and then they go into action. And it seems like the second season from where we left off is going to even have more action because they don't need those first few episodes to set up who Andor is. Right. And I think you're going to, it's, I don't want it to be a cameo fest if it doesn't make sense. Like, again, Vader would make sense. Yeah. If Han shows up for some reason and it's like.

Makes no sense. Unless they find out a way that it does. But it's like, but and, and I know I'm in the, I'm in the minority here. But for me, if you're going to do Han and don't do Han, but if you're going to do Han, stick Anthony and Gruber in the scene, right? But put Hans put, what's his face? Put Harrison Ford's face on him and deep fake him or put, or just do another actor and deep fake him and do an AI voice. He can't do all them. Oh, Aaron, right.

He can't. Yeah. He's not on soul. I know, I know. John Howie right now is moving around in his house right now because he hears something. He's not on soul. He's just not, especially right with Harrison Ford running around the joint right now still as old indie. He's just too fresh in people's brains.

Yeah. And you just did this with Luke. If you did it with Luke, what? Uh-oh. Oh, she wants to watch. She's, my daughter is getting, um, is getting, uh, the TV. she'd been using the TV to watch some of her shows. Oh my God, you guys.

It was just heartbreaking. She said, da-da. She got pulled away. It was actually like a really sad movie ending. You have tears in your eyes. I know. It really got me. I was like so upset.

I just watched that. Tata. Da-da. She reached out. She really reached out for you. Oh, my God. That was so bad. Well, she's getting, she really loves this room now because, so to make you happy now,

I just watched episode four with her. Oh, you did? The little one, first time she ever watched Star Wars. Oh, my gosh. Did she like it? So her answer was incredible when I asked her that question. So she was here and she was watching, we were sitting with, took the two chairs, and we sat in over there, she's sitting on my lap and we had the surround sound.

So, and Vivian, essentially. seen episode four a million times. So she's sitting there like, and at one point she was talking and Macy looks at her, goes, she's like, my girl. She's locked in watching it. And then I said, Macy, did you like it? She's like, yeah. And I go, I said, so you want to watch the next one?

She's like, no. And I go, you don't want to watch another one? Like, she's like, I don't want to watch another for a long time. And I go, I thought you liked it. She said, I liked it a lot. I go, then why don't you want to watch it? She goes, scary. And I go, why is it scary?

She goes, lots of pshu, pshu, psh, shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo, so she said. And I was like, all right, you're not wrong. Oh, my gosh. And she's invader. When Vader came in, she was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I can see that. You're all parts of a rebel alliance in a traitor. Take her away. Oh, my gosh.

Anyway. That's so good. It's really good. All right, but staying with this Diego Luna thing, like, the idea that, you know, like, what he's saying about Latino actors and what he's saying in general. You know, I think he's right. There's tons of stuff that could have been nominated, even thinking about some of the stuff that were narcos or tons of stuff that had come out over the last couple of years.

And so it is good. And all those people that were mentioned, whether it was Jenna Ortega, I like Jenna Ortega a lot. And we've talked about her. I think she's a superstar. I think she's got to be careful, though. She's 20. and she's what's the what's the words I'm looking for again the wishing that having the superpower um I think this is that she sometimes she comes off as if it's like no no no I got this handled

and it's like I don't know if you have all that experience yet you're awesome you're you're really really like I don't it seemed like she the what was the right the one about the writers did you hear of the thing with the show she basically kind of took over it oh no I didn't see that I don't know whatever it was but either way she so you have have Jenna Ortega and then what was it was Selena Gomez Pedro Pascoe. So those are all people that are very much in the running and could potentially win. And so that's having you hear that is one thing. And then the other thing, as we said, lends into the people who could potentially die and how it's wrapping up.

And I like that it's two seasons and done though. Me too. And they had a plan. Yeah, they had a plan. Yeah, to your point, though, I was rereading some of my journal entries from five years ago or something. So it's like 24, 25. I'm so glad that I wasn't, like, wasn't massively famous at that age. Right.

Being 20, I really did have that feeling. Not that she's wrong on anything. You know I love her. I'm just saying, like, you come in so hard because you're 20. Right. You have the gusto. It's awesome. Yeah.

And you're like, what do you mean? Because I'm fighting for what's right or I'm, I feel like what I'm doing is right. And it probably is. But sometimes, at least for me, the way I said stuff or did stuff, I was like, damn, stuff. That's more the thing. It's not, it's not the actual thing that, like, you should be fighting for, A, what you believe, and what you're worth. You just got to be careful in certain ways and how you say it and how it comes across. And it's not, it's a matter of anybody.

Man, woman, whoever it is, you got to be careful because, You look at what happened to like Catherine Heigle back in the day. Right. When Catherine Hegel was, and she was younger too at the time, when she was talking about it was during, it might have been around the writer's strike. I can't remember. But how she just kind of disregarded the writers and that like, that hurt. That hurt bad because you got to be, you got to be careful. You can say it goes back to the conversation we were having in the beginning about the superpower.

It's just like, I don't think there's anything that she is trying to get for herself that she shouldn't be trying to get for herself. it's a matter of you just going to be careful in a certain way how you present it because you don't want to come off as ungrateful. Yeah, and there's also just a way to do business. I don't know the details of what she's been doing, but I just know that the way I was doing things or the way I was viewing things, I would have burnt out if I kept going at this, like, put your hands up, let's go.

But that changes with age. Yeah, yeah. Now I'm like, I need a nap. Because she's super talented. She's going to be around for a while. And people just love her. Which they should, right. It's Vivian's favorite actress.

Oh, really? She loves her. She liked Wednesday? Love Wednesday. I could so see. That's a Vivi show. Yeah. Let's see.

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you're wondering I need to talk to somebody, and sometimes because that's one of the main thing is that you think, like, therapy can be expensive. Right. And, you know, when you can go and you can talk to somebody online, and we're in such a place now in the world where we're a little bit more used to talking to someone on screen, that it's not as maybe, you think,

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Oh, really? Yeah, Bad Batch. Michelle Ang shares that she got a crew gift, and they may have wrapped recording already for season Season 3, Scrant Davis. The Bad Batch Voice actress Michelle Ang has shared a crew gift for the show's third and final season indicating that she may have completed work on the series. Ang revealed on her Instagram page that she received a crew gift of Hunter's helmet suspended by a stand.

Usually such a gift signifies the end of her production for the cast and crew, barring the possibility that some additional material may be needed to record later. In the meantime, the animators will remain hard at work on the project. and there's the gift right there. That's awesome. It's pretty good. I'll post that as well. And then it says

for your service in the Bad Batch. As of right now, we do not have official word that recording has ended for any of our cast members, but any updates is a welcome one, and Star Wars the Bad Batch is a spin off of Star Wars, the Clone War set in the aftermath. As of the second season, there's a spoiler alert for anybody

who has not seen the second season. Ready? Good. Omega has been captured by the Empire on Mount Tantis and Imperial Stronghold where further research on the cloning seems to be the focus for the emperor's greater, most sinister designs. And it's revealed that the several of the scientists are there.

Like Omega, sorry. It's revealed that several of the scientists there are like Omega opposite gender clones of Django Fet, raising further questions about the nature of the empire's mission and the means to accomplish it. Crosshares also imprisoned there. Yes, I am. It's also a prisoner due to his earlier betrayal

of the empire. at a disgust for the mistreatment of clones, and as of yet, unreleased celebration trailer for the new season indicates that two will cross past with captivity. I think that it's funny. I think I liked season two of the bad batch, significantly better than I like season one.

In hindsight, yeah, which is crazy because the first few episodes, I was worried. We were ready to bail. Right. It was boring, and then it took off because it looked like episode, Adventure of the Week type stuff for a while. And then there were a couple that kicked in.

okay, if they can stay that, but the last like five or six were solid. Really great. Really good. Because they tell the story. Yeah. Because once you're telling that story and so it looks like they, I think they, I think they're 100% wrapped already because you have to if they're going to get this out in time. Yeah.

Animation just takes a lot longer. Yeah. And it's what everyone was able to work on during the writer's strike too. If their scripts were already done. Right. They can just go in. And they can just go and animate and do what they have to do. And so that's it.

All right. Let's shift focus a little bit and get to some, some news here outside of Star Wars. Speaking of strikes, actors now sign the letter. They are prepared to strike. Earlier this month, SAG voted to authorize a strike if their negotiating committee doesn't reach an agreement on a new contract with Major Hollywood Studios

by the end of this coming Friday, Steph, June 30th. Then the other day, Fran Drescher released a video message with an update on the negotiations saying, we are having an extremely productive negotiations that are laser focus on all the crucial issues that you said are most important to you. We're standing strong and we're going to achieve a deal. A lot of actors don't seem to be convinced

as Rolling Stone has obtained the letter signed by 300 actors and addressed to leadership and negotiating committees. The letter urges SAG not to settle for a deal that doesn't represent all their demands. The likes of Meryl Streep, Jennifer Lawrence, Remy Mellick, Quinta Brunson, Julie Louise Dreyfus, Ben Stiller, Neil Patrick Harris, Amy Schumer, Amy Poehler,

have all signed the letter which states, We're hoping you've heard the message from us. This is an unprecedented inflection point of our history and what might be considered a good deal in any other years. It's not enough. We feel that our wages, our craft, our creative freedom, and their power of union have all been undermined in the last decade. We need to reverse those trajectories.

There are only days left to make a deal before the contract runs out, and everyone who signed the letter reportedly claims they are prepared to strike if it comes to that, even though it brings incredible hardships to so many that nobody wants. issues in the negotiation circuit around minimum pay, streaming residuals, health care, pensions, regulation around self-taped use in the casting process, and concerns around the use of artificial intelligence. Back in May, the WGA went on strike after they failed to negotiate a deal with Hollywood Studios. WGA members have been vocal about their concerns about working conditions across the industry.

Now, this is one, and I don't know, maybe I'm a little more hopeful in this. I think they are going to sign a deal by Friday. And I think that, and this isn't right, but I think that the studios are going to feel like it's more important for us to get the actors than it is the writers. I feel that's the way the studios are going to feel because there's things,

there's other projects that you have that are already done that you can shoot with actors. You can't do anything without actors. Right. You can't promote anything without actors. Can't do shit without actors. So I think that's going to, by Friday they're going to find out some kind of deal.

Yeah, it's so obnoxious that it had to go to that, you know, but it's why it's so important to stand with people, and especially when you respect them, because there are people who just have more pull in the industry and in life than other people, and that's why it's important to do so. And I think what Amy Poehler, I think that was her quote,

was saying is absolutely true. Like, this could be something that's so important and just stops it from going back, the industry just completely changing into a way that takes power from creatives. Well, it's also the same thing. I mean, you look at it with same type of stuff that WGA is fighting for, and it's streaming residuals as far as streaming residuals and AI and all that. I want to know what the question is, what the big issue is as far as for AI with actors, right?

Is it voice stuff? is it? Because I've seen a lot of voice actors who are absolutely rightfully concerned, right? Because I'll tell you, I had Joe Goddette and Brian Monarch in here. And so you've seen their work. Brian is a comedian buddy of mine, but he does all the replacing Arnold into other movies.

All of his stuff goes viral. I'm sure you've seen the Titanic. Yeah, yeah. I want you to join me like when he is girl's jack look at my boobie's jack um and then joe does the voice of arnold so they were in here and they were talking about all of that and then i was like oh i saw another one that you did that was like spot on joe rogan like who did that rogan voice that was ai like a spot on it was it was took took it and got it and it's like right now the ai voice programs we talked about it with like vader significantly better than using an 85-year-old James Earl Jones.

It sounds 85 years old. They should have done it for Indiana Jones. The problem is right now, the emotion isn't all the way there. It works for Vader because Vader's supposed to sound mechanical, right? Like Luke in Boba-Fet sounded dry. They didn't have any emotion to them. So once they start figuring that stuff out, and it's a crazy thing, though, too, because you can use it.

I was, there's a movie I saw recently where a computer uses a voice to manipulate someone's voice. And it's like with AI, it's like, okay, let's say I type in a couple things and I'm going to go, I have stuff. I've had enough on my show. I have enough of her voice. I can do this. And now here's what I needed to say. I'm going to have a call Mike Kalinowski and say, hey, Mike, I don't want to work with you anymore. You're the worst.

Don't ever come in here again. Your face is stupid. Right. And he's going to go, that was Steph. She called me and said, and meanwhile, you're watching Star Wars at home. Right. And, like, you, that's the scary part of it of what that's going to be able to do in general. People are already doing that kind of shit. But for actors, it's like, well, what do you need me for?

He's got to sign a bigger contract. I guess that's what it's about. It's really scary. I feel like this is the problem with how we've just been brainwashed to be as humans in this world, where we're like we want everything now fast, easy and at a low price. Everyone, consumers and business creators. That's how we are. And we've kind of lost this connection to art and just as hippy as it sounds like living with the earth.

I saw this article about how the government has approved two different factories to make chicken. That's all like based off the cells of chicken, but it's not real chicken. it's a chemical chicken basically. And people were like, screw this. Like that's disgusting. And then one of my friends made a comment that's actually accurate. They're like, you're saying screw this until climate change happens eventually. And we don't have produce and food.

You're going to need this. So it's actually, and it just feels like we're doing that with the film industry when we don't need that. Because the tech is out there. Right. The tech is out there. I mean, it's, yeah, it's nuts. It's like, well, because you want to, it's like the perfectionist and everybody. You want to make sure, well, if I don't, Bruce Willis isn't able to make movies anymore.

But hell, if I'm able to use a deep fake technology that I can use, you know, I can get him to be 30 years old again. And then I can use an AI program to do all these lines as John McLean, get his voice from when he was 30 years old. And then I can use an AI program to do. this and make it look like this particular thing and make it look like the 80s. Yeah, I want to do that. Because it's like and as humans like, I hear myself say it. I want to see what it looks like. I want to see a new diehard movie like with a 30 year old acclaim.

But it's like, yeah, but there's that argument of like I think but then the moral part of it from me is more so what I think SAG is going to be looking for. It's like, well, what's Bruce get out of that? Right. What's Bruce's family get out of that? Yeah. Like is that just. just because you own the rights to the character that you can just do that?

I don't think that's the case. You're going to have to pay them, but you're going to have to pay them significantly. And then the streaming is a whole other thing. It's like streaming services have to tell people what people are watching. They'll tell you when it's doing really well, but you should see it all of the time. The same way that when you click on a YouTube video, you see how many hits a YouTube video has. You should know how many hits a thing has because that, is going to tell you, well, why am I getting paid?

I'm not getting paid for that. Yeah. Yeah, it just makes no sense. It really doesn't make any sense. But, yeah, I really feel like I don't want, it feels like I'm watching kind of a Frankenstein creation if everything's AI. Right. It's just like you're bringing things to life because you can.

I know. It's weird for me because it's like, there's part of it like where I have ideas in my head, tons of ideas in my head that I, the things I've been writing for years. like shoes and beef. Like, and we had this animator who worked with it and we're putting out on the website on July 1st. But it's like there's also, I'm sure the animator as well, like his stuff. And he did if I was like, all right, you know what we're able to do. We can cut a lot of time.

We put this stuff and using your animation, using everything that you did. Let's put it into this program and here's the stuff and hear the voices. And then it's done in like 10 minutes. It's like it's one, it's like two things. Yeah. Yeah. The process of the creativity is not there. Yeah.

But then there's also like, I don't have any time to do it. Right. I know. It's just like one of these new debates that I feel you can go either way. I know. I know. And it's like, and I, when we talked about, I was, I forget who was on you. I think it was Winston and court.

We're talking about AI in general art. And I think there was one, an artist who kind of commented back, I might have actually tweeted at me. And I don't think he was understanding what I was saying. I was talking about like, we get to a place in life with a bunch of the way technology happens. And you're like, technology has replaced jobs for. forever and it's going to continue to do it.

But I'm not saying that it's right. I'm saying that it's just happens. It is what it is. Yes, for me, I'm like, it's just going to continue to happen. No matter how much you guys are fighting it, you're not going to stop it. You could benefit from it and make deals with unions and everything and get paid for it. But you're not going to stop it. It's just the way you're not.

People don't want the computer craze to have in social media credit. When it's that wave and it's that big of a wave, yank and to stop it and it's just too convenient for people as to and I'm not saying and that's what I was trying to say the thing I'm not saying that it should

continue to go I think that they're like if it went away I'd be like I get it like I do understand why people want it to go away because it's like even for me it's scary and AI could take over my wife doesn't understand it she's like computers can't take over

I'm like if a computer is able to think and able to program itself we might not see it in our lifetime but our kids will. Right. You know, and we might see it in our lifetime.

Who do hell know? Yeah, they could turn off power grids and access to water. There's, yeah, to me, it just is,

it's right there. You look at Ultron. Ultron was like, look at these assholes. Right. Fuck them. Yeah, I hate these people. Right.

I get it. You turn on the news sometimes. Just like, and the computer was like, no more of you. Yeah. You're done. Right.

I get it. Enough. Yeah. You've been here for hundreds of years. Right. It's good. You're still killing each other? Hundreds.

I'm saying as like industrialization. Oh, right. Yeah, I mean. With access to technology. To technology. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but even even thousands of years, people have been killing each other and trying to.

So at the beginning of time. Yeah. We're like, Oh, who? I kill you. That's the first thing I think that came and said to each other. That was the first words, not mom or dad. All right.

There's a couple of things that we could talk about. Unfortunately, we have a, we got a short time today. So, wrap it up. Wrap it up here. I wanted to, because Superman we talked about yesterday, I talked about it on my, this video, this is a short video that I did, but we're going to talk about a little more Roxy. We're going to talk a little bit more with Winston and Coy, so don't worry about that. We'll get to that.

But yeah, Steph, where can they find you? At Steph Sabra and at the World Girls, we're dropping a new episode today. Amazing. Well, thank you guys for joining me again. Remember, go on over to Katie's show, blah, blah, blah with Katie's Hackoff over on her channel. you can get shoes and beef, as I mentioned, July 1st, and the Capes and Cowles comic book, July 1st, go and join the website today,

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