The Kristian Harloff Show - THE UFO phenomenon. What will the senate hearings accomplish? | UFO | UAP

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

Join the website! http://www.thekristianharloff.com The UAP phenomenon has been heating up as far as the public demanding answers. There was a whistleblower recently that lead to the public hearings happening on July 26th. What will happen? Will the public get any closer to getting any real answers or will the secrecy remain. Kristian Harloff and Mark Reilly discuss this and how we are in a different place then we ever have been from finding out answers. What say you? #UFO #UAP #sky #hearings #ufohearings #senate

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So last week, welcome to the big thing, by the way. Last week, I did an episode with Mark Ellis about all the, I guess they're called UAPs now, UFOs, UAPs, whatever you want to call them. I went down this rabbit hole and watched this documentary on Disney Plus, and I was just fascinated by it. And I, through stuff that you guys have been tweeting me and commenting on, I've gone further down the rabbit hole because of everything, the UFO whistleblower David Grosch has talked about and I watched his interview and now there was a conference on Thursday

from the people who basically took it to Congress and now there's going to be a hearing this upcoming Wednesday. So that's what the show is going to be about today. The show is going to be myself and Mark Riley going over a bunch of different things. Things we've seen, what we expect to see in these hearings, questions that we have. And, you know, the reason why we decided to do this when I put it up originally,

I didn't think anybody was going to watch it with Ellis and I, but the episode did fairly well. And people will, like, do it again. Now, I don't know how often we're going to do it, but Riley and I, for the time being, are going to do it at least once a week, maybe biweekly, but right now we're starting it once a week. And we're just going to have conversations about what it is. We're going to cover the actual hearing itself, and we'll get into it.

So if you're brand new to the channel, you've never been here before, please hit that subscribe button. Normally, we're doing a lot of pop culture and movie stories and things of that nature. But this has definitely been a fascinating thing for me, not just because of the, well, I'm science fiction guy and this and that. It's like, this to me is the most, could be the most significant thing in our entire existence on this planet. it if these particular things that David Gross saying is true and the other footage. So we'll get into all that and more. So if you are here, hit that subscribe button, leave a comment, get into the discussion today, whether you believe, whether you don't believe, whatever it might be.

Let's have a conversation about it. Let's get right into it, man. It's the big thing. Let's do it. What is going on, people of earth? It is the big thing. And I don't know if there's ever been a bigger thing than this story. And to join me today, Mark Riley, is in the house.

What up, Mark. UFOs, UAPs, and how it will affect your bank account next. On the big thing. On the big thing. Woo, I'm happy to be here. This is huge. What a crazy story this is. This is the biggest thing that has ever happened in our lifetime,

and I can't believe people aren't talking about it more. That's the main thing. But here's the problem with. though. This is what I think, and I think a lot of people are skeptical about it. So just to backtrack for people who are tuning in one of these fucking lunatics talking about, there is a taboo thing always associated with UAPs, UFOs, whatever it might be. And I think that it's not that that stigma has been dropped, but it is certainly lessened. Yeah.

Right? And because of, I think, the first thing that happened with Ryan Graves, one of the pilots that has a footage, also a guy who's going to be testifying on Wednesday, about the stuff that he saw. But this David Grosch stuff really, really broke it open, this UFO whistleblower. But what it is is basically this guy, Dave Grosch, who was a, who was a intelligence officer for a very long time,

very decorated and like, no joke, not a cuck, like just someone who's very respected. And what it was is that he was put together as part of this UAP program, went in as a skeptic and said, I don't really believe in this stuff, after he got enough information started to say, okay, wait a minute, he was told by many different people of,

no, this was recovered, this craft was recovered, this body was recovered, these things were recovered. He's like, well, these are the things that need, we need more access. And they told him, fuck off. And he was like, well, I'm part of this, and I know about this, and this is what my job is. I need to, I need access. And they told him, no, you're not getting access.

So he said, okay, so he became a whistleblower, and he went to people in the, in Senate, and they took them serious, man, because we got ourselves a hearing. Yeah. Tim Burchett. Yeah, Tim Burchett's no joke with this show. Representative from Tennessee is going crazy. Dag damn it, we're going to get to the bottom of this. He is not fucking around.

No, he's hot on it. I've seen a lot of his interviews. Yeah, and you brought us something interesting, the stigma behind it all, and I think that it's turning around because we are now in an age where everybody has a camera in their pocket. Right. So everybody is now having these experiences, and it is all matching up with years, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 years of way more of government stuff going, yeah. And all that stuff that years ago, Clyder Live, we were on there and they released. That was the one.

That was Ryan Graves one. Yeah. They released the Tick-Tac video, what they call. Oh, right, right, right. And actual proof of like, what the fuck are we looking at? And that was, to me, when everything started to change. Yeah. And everything started to, wait a minute, we're starting to hear about this more.

Well, because it was, like you said, it's actual footage now because you can't look at all the stuff that they have. And like I said in the, and I think the name of the people kept asking me, because I kept talking about this doc that I saw on Disney Plus, which was from Vice. It's, I finally finished today. You fit, right? It's UFO's discovering the unknown is the name of it. And it's five parts, I blasted through it. Yeah. Discovery.

Yeah. I'm not discovered. National Geographic. Right, but it was like a vice doc that I think went there. Is that right? Whatever it is. But Leslie Keane, is that her name? The lady with the glasses.

Yeah, she looks like a Kate McKinnon character in Saturday, I think so. She's fantastic. She is one of the ones that if this all goes down and the hearings decide that there should be more information that is released to the public, She is going to be one of the key figures that is remembered forever on this. So there's so much that we're going to talk about that we're going to jump around. I don't know how long this show is going to be, to be completely honest, because we can go to throw many different things of where we're going to go. But I wanted to focus really on this hearing because for people like, what's the hearing?

Sadie asked me last night, my wife, she's like, what's the hearing? What is that? She doesn't. She is about as, she believes more so this coffee cup is going to come to life more than she believes any of this. This is my wife, too. My wife is buzzing by the TV going, what are you watching? Right. Why are you watching? This old, that's not, and going to the stigma again. It's the taboo of it all.

Even back in 70, they bring up Spielberg in this documentary as well because he went to all the experts for the UFOs. But there's a moment in the director's cut of close encounters where the pilots, and you only hear it in the perfect Spielberg way, they only hear, or the pilots saying, I saw this, it flew by big lights, blah, blah, blah, and they're like, do you want to report it? and then silence over the line. Everybody's like, and the pilot's like, no, right? I don't want to report. That stigma has been around for centuries and feels like

because nobody wants to be looked at as nuts. And now there's way too much going on and the government knows about it and every time there was a report or a sign, the Chicago O'Hare Airport one. I told you. That's the one. That's the one to me.

And now, and people, as I started talking about this more, people kept telling me about it. And one of the reporters, not reporters, one of the guys in the, the doc that you watch, is the director of First Contact. Is it First Contact? Is that the name of it? Not Star Trek. Not First Contact. What was the one that I told, that I said that you don't watch? Shoot.

Was it not? Hold on. What is it called? The doc that I've been watching, it has to be. I know. You told me to me that I need to write this stuff down, too. Yeah, it wasn't it? Oh, first account, Alien Encounter?

I don't know which one it was. But it's the one that I was, it's about the Brazil crashing. Oh, yeah. It's what it was. I'm going to tell you right now, because I don't want to mess this up. I want to make sure that I have this.

We need to, yeah. I'm going to tell you right now which one it is. Hold on. Because this one to me was very, it's insane. But tell me a little bit more about what you thought when you heard the David Groschwan. Oh, well, the interview of him was, it is the first time where you really have somebody go on camera,

go on record. And the guy in the interview, Newsmax, I believe it was, was like, or News Nation was like, not NewsMack, News Nation was like, you're going on record saying we're not alone out there. And he's like, absolutely.

The data is pointing to the fact that we are not alone based on everything I've seen, based on the reports, the pictures that I've seen, based on the generals and the high intelligence officers that are doing it, based on all these different

things. That to me was like finally somebody's going on record. They worked with the government. They're legitimate. They're they're not a kook. They're not somebody going around like what's you know, tinfoil on their head. It's legit to me because I've also seen one myself. And we'll get into that as well. Yes. It's all the same. Moment of contact is the name of it. Moment of contact. Okay. So throughout all these different stories are probably, I, I, I, so just to give everybody kind of my story of how I'm like now, why everyone's, everyone's like why you've been talking about this so much. So this is literally how I've always believed.

I've always thought that there's, it's just too silly to think that we're the only ones out here. And then as Mark mentioned, we did a show together called Clyde Live that there was this stuff that came out. That was when I really was like, okay, wait a minute. So there's way more footage. I was always curious about the stuff at Roswell

and the understanding, always thinking that there was kind of a more of a conspiracy in a lot of these stories. And I always watched like the ancient alien shows on the history channel and stuff. But I was never like as invested as I am right now. And the reason why is because I was sitting down, then I was watching a show called Jury Duty, which is fantastic.

I love Jury Duty so much. It's fantastic. I'm on the last episode. I finished it. But before I finished it, for some reason, I paused my Roku or whatever. And Disney Plus comes up. And then I see this thing about the UFOs and understanding whatever the, I just said what the name of it was.

But, and I look and I go, all right, I'll watch. I'm going to, I'll check it. Why not? And I was like, I'm just going to, like, with no, with nothing except like, let me see. Yeah. And I was just, wait a minute. This is so much. It's that New York Times article, the way that she, Leslie Keene again, I think, put into the New York Times to say, look at what I got, this guy who, and now I start to see all these people from this doc.

And then finally, that exclusive with the Pentagon going, we're going to share this with you. Yeah. And this is what we have. Yes. And it's finally blowing up. It's, it's, it's,

it's just a lead to all of these different things that lead to these. Because this, that doc is essentially them like, we need people to have, to be, um, more informed on this because it is that taboo and it's the same thing. My wife,

your wife. She's really not taking it seriously, but I'm like, nobody is doing it. Like, serious. It's, it's,

like this is legit. What's happening. What's, and what's legit is this? Like, you and I have our beliefs of, what we think is really legit. But what is legit is there is information

that is being held from the American public. There is information out there that is proof of that there is something out there. These are these pilots, and none of these pilots, they've got nothing to gain. This guy, David Gross, had nothing to gain from losing his position and leaving his position except wanting to do the right thing

of just saying, hey, look, this is information that needs to be, what is happening out there? Because for like Ryan Graves, the pilot, for example, and the other pilot who got the TikTok video, not TikTok, saying, you know, this is a danger to pilots. We had that was something like 16 near misses or something also. Yeah, and one of these interviews I saw,

they were talking legitimately about worrying about, not attacked, but these things are out there. it is a threat to us. Mid-air collisions. Airspace, yeah. If this guy, if Grush is saying that these crashes are happening, you know, that's all well and good. What I find funny is everybody's like, well, aliens and they're not saying it's aliens.

I'm not even saying it's aliens. He said, they asked them, I said, you're saying alien life form is out there. He's like, I'm not saying that they're aliens. I don't know their origin. Yeah. We don't know what they're still not a lot of damage here yet. He thinks the same thing that you and I were. But maybe.

I'm there. I just saw Oppenheimer, so I'm like, again, now the science of it all. He was the one who brought quantum physics to the United States. Yeah. The idea of all that with Einstein and everything in the way that space and time work and that this is what gross thing, this is not confirmed, but there are theories that they're coming from, it's not just his theory. It's like a different scientist theories that they could be coming from different dimensions.

And they're dimensional. that they're from here, it's just a different dimension, that they're, and they've been, who the hell knows how long they've been traveling back and forth here? Remember that part in Interstellar, which I think is, it has Oppenheimer in it. Like I feel when he's going through the equation of Einstein, and he folds the thing and goes,

and puts the pencil through and goes, that's the wormhole. That's what we're talking about. That's E equals MCS. Like, they go into the science event. That's what I tend to believe now, and as that theory is presented by Grush, I think that is legit because maybe we're, we're not saying it's the technology to travel infinitely through the galaxy

and get to us from Earth from like Mars or wherever they're coming from. Interdimensional, multidimensional. Well, look, there's the other thing that's so. This is science we don't know. It's true. The other side of it was Bob Lazar is a guy, like, you know, I don't know if you've heard of him. He was the other one who basically said that he,

when he worked in, I think it was the 80s, he worked specifically on craft that were there. I heard his interview on, I think Rogan was, and he was talking about how there was particular crafts. Some people said that I didn't hear this portion in the interview, but they said that he did say he saw a body, but for the ones that I heard was that he saw ships and he was actually worked on the ships and all that.

But he said, because there were these reports that he had also, and he said sometimes he had reports, and sometimes they would give you reports that inside the information was bullshit, because they wanted to see if you were going to leak it and all these things too. And he's like, the stuff about the ships that he worked on was in there, So he's like, okay, cool, great.

This is bullshit. I mean, what do they test me on? And then it was legit. Yeah. But inside of that report as well, he's like, the other thing I saw inside of the report, and I don't know how true it is, this could be bullshit as well, too. I'm just telling you it was in the report. I don't believe it or don't believe it, was that they were from a star system called something.

Okay. I don't know what it was. But that's, who knows? And, but again, more will be revealed if we keep going down this path. Now, let me, this is the portion of it where I want to, this is what I wanted to talk about, but this is what David Gross said. He's like, he just wouldn't feel right because they asked them, why I come forward, why I do this? Why stake your reputation on it?

He's like, because I don't want to be sitting around in 50, 60 years. And I should have done something. I should have said something when I had the right to say something. I never said anything. Yeah. He's one of the people who is testifying at the hearing as well as Ryan Graves, the pilot, and as well as the other pilot, who was a very decorated pilot who saw the... David Fraber, a former commanding officer of the Black Ace's squadron of the U.S. Navy.

He's in that dock. Yeah. He's in the dock. But these are a legitimate. They're all legit people that have seen. But this is now this is the part of me. This is the skeptic part of me. Yeah, well, I think you have to be.

But this is. See both sides, right? Well, no, but the state not crazy. Yeah, but the skeptic part of me is the skeptic in the human race. And we ain't getting shit out of this hearing. What we are going to get from this hearing are the accounts, because they wouldn't let this get right. Last time they did this, they wouldn't let Ryan Griff speak.

He came. came to the thing, they wouldn't let him speak. They wouldn't even give him clearance to get into the thing. They wouldn't even respect them enough to get him in there. He had all these reports. They wouldn't even let him in. He's getting a chance to speak. We're going to hear him. We're going to hear Grush. We're going to hear everybody.

We're going to hear these reports. There is no way that these portions of the government that have been holding these secrets will release this information. You don't think it'll happen. No. I think that they're going to push for it. I think they'll continue to push for it. But I don't think it's going to happen.

And I think it's been a secret that's been held for a long time. I think there's a reason why he said there's been people. I think Russia said it too. There's, there have been people who have been killed over this stuff. There is one of the most interesting parts of the documentary series on the National Geographic, on the Disney Plus channel, was something that, the woman's name again, Leslie you're saying. I think it's Leslie Keene. Yeah, she's fantastic. And one of them, something she said really stuck with me.

And I hate to go to movies, you know, but it's something that Independence Day did. And in lesser fashion here, I'm not saying there's going to be an event that, you know, that there's a huge ship that blows up the White House. But she says, what we really need is an all-encompassing kind of event that happens that hits the newsway. And that's, to me, immediately went to the big ship hovering over the White House. The big ship hovering in the middle of Montana and arrival. The big ship, something that will happen that can bring everybody like, what? Not just Arizona where it's that, those lights or Chicago or air.

I couldn't believe it, dude. I couldn't believe that this hearing, again, whether you believe or not, it's a significant hearing. It's like a significant hearing that all of these people are coming out to say, we have this information. Pilots, decorated pilots, who are coming out to say these are our circumstances that we had, a decorated intelligence officer saying these are the information I have senators who are banding together that you wouldn't even imagine in a million years being on the same page together going, we need information together. All that stuff is out there.

It's significant, and there's hardly, I shouldn't say hardly. that's not true. There's some coverage. There should be, this should be the biggest story out there. I know there's big political stories out there. And about a week and a half, two weeks ago, I was following every second of every bit of it. I don't give a shit about that stuff. And I was following every bit of it. I was like, oh, who's doing this and what happened now? I don't give a shit. It's so insignificant.

I don't give a shit because those people in the long run won't mean shit. We rounded a corner here with all the information coming and to skepticism aside when you question people, like, what do we have, or what, I know the media is not going to cover it

for certain reasons and this, this and that, but with general populace out there, what have you got to lose with listening to a Navy commander say, I saw fucking something in the sky? No shit. Showing you, wait a minute, showing you.

But letting that sink in, listening to it going, okay, all right, Navy commander, Air Force, we have intelligence officers all over the place. pilots, of course, everywhere, pilots that you trust your life with to get on that fucking plane. I mean, that Japanese

pilot, when they're flying over Anchorage. The Japanese one was nuts. He was insane. And they said that, and they said he was on, they said he had an elevator on a 747 and the thing dwarfed him. It was like, it was massive. Yeah, he turned it 360s. They're like, all right, make a turn,

see if this thing follows you. I did a 360. The thing's still with me. I'm like, what is going on right now? So all of these people that are coming out and saying something, let's hear them out and then let's start poking the government. I can understand, though, there might be some serious shit. Of course, well, look, but this is ultimately what it is, right? So the thing is, if every single person discovered and felt about,

like the way that you and I found that doc, pass it on to you, told you to watch it, and if every single person in the United States watch that and had their own opinion on it, right? But a lot of people don't know about it, right? So what this is, is essentially them saying, hey, all that information they talked about on the dock, we're going to make all that information public

and more so public and pictures and videos and other things and make your own conclusions from it. I think everybody just goes to sci-fi, and I think they think that aliens guy, aliens, right? With these documentaries, it's just something that's put in the back of our heads that's a taboo because you can't imagine it

you can't imagine it and I'm sure it scares the shit out of people scares the shit out of me to think but it also excites me because I happen to be scared to death about death about what is after this kind of shit

it's like expanding our world it changes the complexity of that question and I know that there could be like religion involved here that could be scared you to consider, but, you know, I've seen it with my own two eyes. I had an encounter myself. So, you know, before you do that, we'll come back with that too. I do want to talk to you about that.

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Yeah, alien contact. But you, so in Michigan, though, this is, right? Michigan in that dock is a place that he says is one of the hot spots. Yes. Of potential UFO. So tell us your story. Well, yeah, I was filming an alien horror movie, low budget in Michigan. It was a small town called Lake comma Michigan, not Lake Michigan, the lake.

But Lake, it's a very small town, very wooded, very nowhere. And we had a plot of land that we were filming this horror movie on. And you could walk down in the woods and go and find these cabins. My director and me and our producer at the time were walking down to the cabins through the woods. We got to a kind of an opening. And I tell you, it's all of the stuff that we're seeing that people are reporting. It was cylindrical. It was round silver.

And it had a green halo around it. And it was booking across the sky just like this. And Kai Blackwood, our director, has had. many sightings himself. In fact, he believes he's been abducted. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. That's a story for another time.

He goes, oh, my God, are you seeing this? I said, yeah, I'm seeing this. Brian, are you seeing this? I'm seeing this. It stops. Just stops. And it's sitting there. And we're like, what is going on?

It's kind of hovering and it kind of comes a little closer. And then out of nowhere, there's another one behind us. It flashed us. It went from dark to, light. I saw the tree tops light up. I mean, it absolutely illuminated everything around us. We jumped, we were

scared, we went, what the hell was that? There was another one. Meanwhile, that thing disappeared. I don't know where it went. But the one that flashed us decided to just go, and just took off. And I went, what the fuck was that? Right, so what are you doing a situation like that?

I was high as a kite on adrenaline. I wasn't, we were shooting, I was working, it wasn't The taboo of it all. We went and told all of our friends around the campfire. And everybody's like, all right, all right. And that's the thing. And you go back to that dot.

And you go back to that dog. Everybody's like, sure you did. Sure you did. So when you go back to that dog, I'm sure you saw something. Yeah. And look, I'm sure when you told me, because I'm sure you told me a while ago. Oh, I told this story. Numerous podcasts to everybody I've ever met.

And I'll be honest. When I heard it, I was probably like, oh, okay. I sure. I'm sure you saw something. I'm sure you saw something. And whatever it might have been. great. And the reason why I give a little bit more merit to it now is because the Michigan side of it all. And then it's like there's just so much. And the other thing is from like Groshe's report, who knows how long these things?

What he says is that the first, everyone always says that the first reported crash, everyone always thought. Roswell. Not Roswell. Stalin was the one that they, that they are in like the 1930s in Italy. They say that, and we don't know if it's the first, but that was the first one where they had the conversation, and then that's when they started to get all these different, I don't know if it was the first time they were aware of it, but then it happened in Roswell, and then it happened to these other things again, supposedly.

But you just noticed that all of this reporting and all of the things that are now finally coming out is because our technology is there. We have cameras on our pockets. You guys did the great show, you and Ellis, and Ellis was talking about the Vegas, one. Yeah, that happened. That was legitimate happened in front of us. Police cam, dash cam video. Yeah. There was one two days ago. Yeah. And they were like, where was that? I can't remember where it was, but there's like, it was a ring cam picked up like this big green bolt that just flashed through. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's everywhere. Go on UFO Twitter. That was my favorite part of my day. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, go down that rabbit hole. Someone tweeted me that and they said the same exact thing. I went, what the, everybody is posting stuff.

I know. Because you have your can't. I mean, you're out there going blah, blah, blah, look at my pick. It's true. I want to know, though, the people who run these programs, though, you know, because every single report in that doc, every single report was always the same thing. It was like, it was like, hey, these people saw something. How many of them? About 30 or 40 of them.

Really? All right. Well, is it true? No. A couple days later. All right, something happened. Well, what was it? It was a weather report.

It was? Yeah. Well, they say it wasn't. Well, it was this. Oh, well, it's not that big of this. We'll call you back. Yeah. By then, Trump gets indicted again, and everybody's talking about that.

Well, that's the thing. That's the thing. It's just because it just, but that's what other people... But that's what other people are going to say about this. And I am not on that side of the things where people are going to say, well, the reason why they're doing all this right now is trying to take focus off of whether it's Trump or whether it's anything else. Oh, and that's a joke, and that has nothing. I know you're saying it's...

It could have been, you know, gas-examination. You know, gas prices go down. You know, something else takes the attention away from that news story. But it does, like, I just don't understand how, like, if this is what I'm saying, though, like I was looking at a couple different places that last night, I turned on the news to see, okay, we got this hearing coming up, and nobody was talking about it on any of the major things. And I was like, this, I mean, again, this is, we're pre-taping this to come out on Monday. So I am going to watch tonight.

We're recording this on a Thursday. So I am going to watch tonight on the news because this was a major press conference that happened on Thursday. I was getting, I was at the eye doctor this morning listening to this on my ear as this go. What's the senator's name again? The guy from Tennessee? Oh, what was it? Because he was coming in hot and he was talking about. Dagnamet.

He was about his interviews in general. What he said, though. Burchette. Tim Burchett. Tim Burchett said, and I saw him on an interview where they asked him, I said, should we be nervous about basically what you said about them? If they are legitimate and they are here, should we worry about whether they're going to attack? Legit alien invasion?

He said, listen, the technology that these things have, if they wanted us dead, we would have been dead a long time ago. And I don't know how, you know, he makes a good point if these things are, whether it's you believe, again, if you believe, and these things are coming from another galaxy or another dimension. This is the one thing that they said in the dock, and a lot of people report, and Gross said the same thing. These ships have the ability to go and work underwater,

and there's even footage of them coming out of the water, going in the water, coming out of the water. So, like, if they have that type of technology and the things that they've had, who knows? Like I said, 1930s, 1940s, the first couple reports, who knows how long they've been flying around in the sky? If Grush's theory, one of them comes true, we might be centuries away from that answer. We might be away a few days, who knows, you know, with the way technology goes nowadays.

But the idea that could be interdimensional, time doesn't matter. I wonder if the... They could be, you know, they can be buzzing a dinosaur right now. Right. Because it's just the way we don't know. It's so interesting because you can't even fathom it, though, if you're not really paying attention to the science of it all, right? If you just, if you just like, you wake up in the morning, you go to your job and you're like, okay, I got a fucking egg sandwich, I'm going to do this, I go to my job, I cocking at nine, I go to six, I see my, I see my family, I go to sleep. In no world are you going, well, the way that time works, and you're like, you wake up and you go, fucking aliens?

What are you talking about? I just say, yeah, it's mind-blowing, and when I bring up, like, it buzz in a dinosaur, I mean, I know that's like, you know, are we talking about that Adam Driver? movie, no, no, no. Like, I don't believe it's time travel or this or that. Time works different everywhere. It's this science though, and the bitters, the old saying,

like my grandmother would always say, where there is smoke, there is fire. This is a lot of smoke. So much. There is so much smoke that at least now you can go, all right, I'm kind of a believer. The Ryan

Graves footage is the one that has the, I mean, it's the Chicago O'Hare Oh, that imagery story that is the craziest. I've seen it move that fast. I'm sure. And then the...

But this one, it's the Ryan Graves stuff that he's the ones when they're flying and he's like, look at that. Look at that dude. They show like eight different times in the dock. But it's like this thing, it moves like paper. Yeah. And it's kind of just going like this. Yeah. But this moment of contact

thing that everyone's telling me about, this is the one that you're going to lose your mind about. I want to, yeah. This is the Brazil one. Yeah. So the moment of contact is, and I can't, let's see, I'm going to get the director's name. Because he's in, he's in, you'll know him from the doc that we just talked about. Because he's legit.

And he was the one in the doc that was like, it was great that we finally got this thing out in front of people because I worked on this stuff for so long. And finally, family I was working with was like, oh, this is legit. This is legit. James Fox is the director, right? and James Fox. I'm going to make my wife watch this tonight. Where is it? You can get it on, it's free.

That's not him. That's definitely not James Fox. Hold on. Who is that guy? That's J.R.R. Token. That's James Fox. Okay. James Fox is, you saw him.

He's all over the documentary. Okay. But he's been involved in the UFO or the UAPs for a long time. So he directs this one, and there was this event in Brazil that happened in 96. Okay. And so this isn't like, again, this is very, you know how in this talk, like the Hudson thing happened and the one woman says, I wouldn't have said anything if it was me and my girlfriend, but the fact that like 20 or 30 of us saw it. And that was the thing.

That's what a lot of people always think. That there's only like two people that saw it who were hammered on moonshine and they didn't. And sure, that's exactly what you. Is it Benny and Barney Hill? Remember the incident? No, I'm serious. The interracial couple that saw it. That took the picture.

Yeah. They took the first official picture. They disappeared. They came back to like what happened. Right. Like that another really famous UFO experience. Fire in the sky, another one. That's another one legitimate.

Like they, five of their dudes hanging out in the middle of nowhere doing their fishing and hunting and then that happens. I think they were working actually. Well, but this one, this one is basically what happened. Again, I'm only about 35, 40 minutes into it. I'm watched the whole thing yet. But yeah, and this is what I like about what James Fox is. He's like, listen, this is I'm not telling you what to believe or what I'm telling you to do is watch this, watch all the facts, watch everything that comes in, and make your own conclusion. And I think that what should be from all these things, because I think that what people do right away.

What people do right away is because they hear UFO, they hear UAPs, and they go, okay, sure. You just want this to believe because you want to believe that there's wookies out there. Right. And when it comes down to it, it's like, yeah, but also listen. And I think that's why we're getting these hearings because it's like, but listen to the actual facts. Listen to it because then I saw some people, look, I love the corridor crew. I think they're a great, I think they're a great YouTube channel. But people were sending me like, well, the corridor crew, they debunked this.

They're fucking special effects people, guys. It's like, they're like, well, they debunked it because you can just do that. Of course you can make these things happen. But the footage that's kind of. Oh, you mean the footage? The footage is coming out. And it's like, it's like, but why are you going to have guys like Ryan Graves and all these pilots come out to risk? The aerial footage from their plane?

They're saying that it's the same the ones that kind of zipped through. They could make it. Why? Why would they do that? Why would they do that? That's what I ask. I'm not telling you that it couldn't be done. And I think the quarter crew is incredible. I love their videos and I love them.

But I, but I think that because they said that it can be done, that they debunked it, get lost. Of course they. Of course it could be done, but why would these people risk their reputations? Why does a guy who's going to, an intelligence officer, a respected one, a guy that still had a gig, it's a stigma again. Decide that he wants to leave to do the right thing because he wants to make cool special effects videos look real? Yeah. What?

That sounds ridiculous. That sounds more ridiculous than people coming up from other dimensions. Yeah. I think a lot of people out there are just like my wife, because I watched her literally. it just glazed over. Right. When she walked by, she went, it just kind of compartmentalized

in her mind as sci-fi. And she automatically thinks people are telling stories and it's not really not listening to the facts. Same thing. So I'm watching this thing last night, the moment of contact,

and I'm just, and I am locked in to this thing. Yeah. Watching it. And my wife keeps coming into the room and she's like, we're watching aliens again. Yeah, she's boring.

Turn it off. And I'm just like, in my head, I'm like, because she wants to have serious conversations. And in my head, This is the thought I had. I love you. Get the fuck out of here.

Because I wanted to watch this thing. But I had to turn it off. Yeah. Because we were having like, you know, marriage conversations. Yeah. And then I'm back. I'm just like, holy shit. The stuff that happens.

This is a town that happens in Brazil. And the politicians, the politicians, there's a difference. And they say this in the doc that we watch, that there's so many different countries that are not like the United States holding information. Yeah. Brazil, this town, they're not holding information back. He goes to one of the top ranking officials.

I think like the, I don't know if it was the president, but whoever the, maybe the governor of this particular, this wasn't, and he's like, do you believe it? Yeah. Yeah. And so what happens, what they said happened in this town, again, I don't have all the details because I've only seen 45 minutes of it. But in this town in Brazil, there was a crash that happened,

that they actually saw, there's only, there was one guy who saw the actual show. ship crashing and he's only done one interview before this one and they showed that interview when he was probably he's probably around the city he's probably about probably like five or six years older than us okay so he was younger when he when he's doing the thing and he saw this thing flying in and he saw it's kind of a white smoke coming from it he's just gonna crash I don't know what it is but it's gonna crash he thinks it's just a ship so yeah he sees a crash he's like oh somebody's somebody's hurt so it's like he lands in

this field. And then so what happened was, and again, I'm going to look at the full thing, but from what I gathered and as it was leading up to it, there were a lot of like a cop came to it. The cop is no longer with us, but the cop came and the cop physically

had the pilot of the ship and took it into wherever they took it. And the Brazil, and all... I got to watch this. Yeah, they closed off streets. Then there's a, whether it was the same pilot from the ship, I have no idea. again, I don't have all the details yet.

Three girls saw this thing. Huddled up against... And James Fox talked about the son, Rogan, director. It was huddled against, like, a wall. And the three girls, from about, I don't know, where that thing is to where you are, saw it, looked at it, froze. One of the girls screamed.

The other girl dragged her away. The other one said that it had contact, hence why it's called First Contact, or whatever, moment of contact. And the thing, I don't know, this wasn't clear from what James Fox said, and I'm again gonna watch. I don't know if it was how it communicated,

but it communicated that it was in, it was hurting, it was weak, and it was asking for help. So like, it's crazy. It's this, and this end, again. Like telepathy? I don't, I don't know. Okay.

I don't know. I have to watch it yet, so I don't, but when you have, it's one of these things where it's like, okay, two people, or even these three people are saying this, but no one else knows about it. Let's do some tests. This is a fucking town.

Yeah. This is a town that they, so much that they believe it, they've built statues and shit of it. Like, this is a town that they, and you ask the majority of this town, they all believe that something happened there. Yeah. And it's like, so there's just all these different circumstances.

And now that, report that thing comes out that James Fox does and then you couple that with Groshe and you couple that with everything happening as you said before men when there's smoke there's fire that's what this is

that's what it has to be that's I just feel like we've had so many stories the Betty and Barney Hill story that I had that thing happened in the 40s or the 50s this story that you're saying the Arizona one that they saw what was that that that show the Arizona one

was the The Texas one. The Texas one. Now we have the Chicago O'Hare. My own experience seeing something that I can't, and I'm not saying it's aliens. Again, there is stuff happening out there. It's stupid to think there isn't.

I'm seeing it with my own two eyes. There are too many people out there now talking about it, these respected individuals in the U.S. Navy, intelligence. I just think something's got to give. There was a poll that came out recently. It shows you how it has changed dramatically that whether or not that people thought that the United States government was holding information back about UAPs. Yeah.

And it jumped up to 53% said yes. There's a lower percentage that said no, but that was the least amount. The second was I don't know. It's okay to say that too. 52% think that their government is lying in general. And then, you know, what do you think is going to happen with these hearings? Like, legit. What do you really think is going to happen?

Well, I think it's going to spread some awareness. We're slowly picking away at this because the government is hiding something. I truly believe that because of the implications. You know, the government of the United States, you know, wants to have elected individuals run our country. And elected individuals walk and get on a platform. they say, I stand for this, I stand for this. And a big part of that is religion.

And I feel the government, if they were to say, this is truly what we're dealing with, this is what we have, whether it's remains of an alien nature or something else that we don't even know. Otherworldly, whatever. Otherworldly. Wreckage of a UFO, all these things, that will immediately signify to the entire United States populace. They'll go, wait a minute. That is some big, big implications. Right. I just feel like they have to do this right.

So this hearing, I feel, is the right step in the right direction because we need to start getting it out there. And I think it's going to get more and more people, like you said, that poll. More and more people are going to tune in, hear about it from us, hear about it from this. I'm going to tell my dad get his two cents on it. His favorite picture he ever has was given to him by a general, somebody in the military, And it's a government photo of a U-HP, a UFO, whatever you want to call it, a UAP. It's a magnifying glass looking at something and it's a silver thing flying next to a jet, you know?

And it's like he loves that and that I know he would want to believe, but there is something in us right now. We can't think that far. Well, I mean, this is what, like, again, I'm bringing my wife. Now, I'll bring my wife into this, too. She's just not going to buy it unless, this is what I said to her the other day. I was telling about all these different footage, all these different things that we're seeing now. And she's like, until one comes to the house and says,

hello, I'm not going to believe it. And I was like, that's never going to happen. That's okay too, but yeah. But it's like one of those things where there are people. How much evidence do you need? Not to your wife. You can for sure. But I think she's speaking for, and my wife as well,

speaking for the general public that just doesn't want to, I don't know, wrap your head around it. They just can't, they can't believe it because it's, sci-fi movies, is what we grew up with. That's what it is. And they think, because even I was watching, I did not want my daughter to watch it though. My daughter was, like, that would scare me.

She's like, almost 12 years old. And I started watching the moment of contact, and I told her, you shouldn't watch this, right? Yeah. And she's watching, and I hear my daughter go, Dad's watching the alien stuff again. And my wife goes, yeah, he really likes Star Wars. And in my head, I'm going, that's what it is.

But that's what people think. And it's like, And because, and I was telling a good buddy of mine the other day where I was, I walked at DJ Waldron. Yeah. And I was talking to DJ and I said to him, you know, I'm like, hey, man, I'm watching this thing. And he did the same thing. And I'm like, but watch it. Because when I went in there, the same thing.

Like you look at, what's his name? Heinrich. Heinrich was the guy who ran the Project Blue Book, right? Yeah, yeah. Heinrich went in. He's great. He's great. He went in as a skeptic.

Yeah. Gralsh went up as a skeptic. But it's like, here's the evidence produced. That's where. They're trying to get the American public to go with it. It's like, okay, look, you might, this is, this is stuff. Because I remember that when we talked about it on the show back in 2019 or whatever it was. It was like, well, wait a minute.

That's when I first. That was when I said, well, wait a, what is that? Yeah. Like, what, how, because it was less, and it was less about what is that. How do you explain that was the thing that I said? And nobody could explain it. Yeah, and that's what the government could do if you want to get people to really trust and get behind this UAP thing. show what you got,

you don't have to be this government that says, and we have it all figured out. No, that's what science is. We know how science goes sometimes when it comes to the government and what things are happening. You don't necessarily believe what's right in front of your face

or, you know, the beaches are open, says the Amity mayor, you know, nothing's out there, go outside, everything's fine. Or there's something there. Do you want to know? Yes, I want to know. I think it's interesting. I think the more you get from, if they were to show, this is my point, if they were to show what they have, I think the world would believe.

I think the world would snap because I did it with that stuff. I think you're giving too much credit to the world. Probably. I think you're given too much credit to the world. Most likely. I think that there's a lot of people that will still say it's doctored and even, even, again, using my wife for this example, I said to her, I was like, you know, what if they came out and the government was like, here's this footage. She's like, I don't trust the government. And I was like, okay.

It's the best he's key in what she said. It's got to be an event. And I don't think we're far away from it. I don't. It's just a matter of something like that needs to happen. Because like a ship literally where like everybody sees it over like Berlin or something. But look at the Brazil. Look at the Brazil situation.

And that's usually what the skeptics will say. The skeptics will say. And even this one reporter that I saw who was interviewing Jimmy Cricket, whatever. But even the grush. No, not grush. the guy who was the senator. What's his name? Oh, yeah, Burschette.

Yeah, Bouchette. But even she, they have something there, Dag, blam it? He said that. But even she was like, where is the, where's the footage? Where's the stuff of, like, not just like the little blips in the background. Right. Where's the actual footage? And like, they've got it.

But they've got, that's what we're trying to fight here to have it. But that's what people want to see. And there's an event like that, something like that needs to have, like, so you go to the Brazil thing in the moment of contact stuff, right? and this is 1996. So it goes back to the point that you made before. Imagine that this is

this is 2023 and this ship crashes and the whole town now the counter to that now the counter to that is that your phone is probably going to be taken from the government immediately.

Probably. However, in the day of Twitter and social media, back in the day, if you were taking pictures, they confiscate your camera, whatever, too. You don't get a chance to develop it. You don't have a chance. Now you just go, oh, shoot, look what I just saw. It's on the cloud.

Fucking alien running around in the streets. And like, look at what happened in Vegas. Yeah. Right? And so people still think, but is that cop that goes, I'm like a lie to you. My partner saw something too. Yeah, I know. And they thought there was aliens in the backyard.

Running around in the backyard. So it's like, look, one of the things that could come out and I, this has not been reported at all. Again, there's so many like, what ifs, what ifs? What ifs? What if these things have been in contact with certain portions of the government? And they know when they're doing their flybys. And they know that when they're doing this thing. And that's what they don't want to come out. There's so much that there could be, that could happen that if it comes out, they're like, well, we're going to get fucked here if we do. Because if this information comes out that we've been in contact with these fuckers for years and they've this, we're coming in. We're going to be coming by here. You're probably going to get some shit from some people. But now. Now you get people pressing, anything can happen of it all. But I do, the other thing that I thought was very interesting, that I'm not actually opposed

to this theory was that these are craft that were recovered wherever, and there's reverse engineering going on. Yeah. Which is also very possible. Like that's another thing. I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't either, meaning that, you know, if the government found one of these things years ago and have been worked, like we said for the other, the, what's his face, shoot,

I mean, I'm so bad with names guys, but Bob Lazar. Like, Lazar was in that place working on these ships, and they worked on the ship, and then they have, now they've got humans that can move around, and they've been testing them for years. And then it's like, imagine at the hearing, they go, well, all right, here's the deal. Yeah, there are otherworldly ships, but the good news haven't seen anotherworldly in quite a while. But we've been flying the things for about 20 years. you're like, what?

Yeah, it's like, no, everybody, nothing to see here. By the way, Apple's releasing a new ray gun. Right, right, right. But imagine the rest of the world at that point. Yeah. The rest of the world then goes, you're doing what with what now? Yeah. And so, yeah.

There's some spy craft. It's nuts. It's going to be, we live in the time. Yeah. We do. We live in the time. This is the time now. I turn the corner, really.

I saw what I saw, and then when we saw that report come out, I was jumping off the walls going. This is the conference, the conference today? No, not the press conference with the TikTok video. When they finally released that, and that was government, and that was footage, that was footage from the plane. That was them doing maneuvers in San Diego. When I saw that, I went, wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's that?

What is that? Right. I went, I thought about my encounter. I thought about all the fun UFO stories that we've heard overall. all the many years. And this is when I went, okay, we're at that time now. And this press conference or this hearing is going to push it more to the foreground. What I think's going to happen is I guess we can kind of close out with this on the hearing of it all.

Again, what I think is going to happen is I think that, like, UFO Twitter is going to be going nuts that day. We're going to be having a great time talking about everything that is. Join us. Yeah, for sure. And I think shows like this and other shows are going to be talking about the, the footage and that, not footage, rather, but the testimony that is given by whether it's all three,

plus the push from a bipartisan group that wants to get this stuff released, and the fact that they've also, you talked about the one woman that spoke at the conference, this point was great, at the conference, but the press conference, I guess, this morning, that said that they've talked to generals before and they were shot down, the arrogance of it,

that you're not getting this stuff, this is just kind of like the way it's been done. I think you hear all those people speak, and I think, unfortunately what is going to happen is the same thing. You're going to get limited coverage on it. You're not going to get the kind of coverage. This should be covered.

I don't even know if you can watch it. You should be able to watch it. This should be bigger than a thing of like, well, you know, Senator so-and-so grabbed another person's took us on Taco Bill. Yeah. There's going to be a four-hour conference to see whether or not they did it. And it's like, are you kidding me? Yeah.

Like, even if you don't believe it. Like, let's see what's going on here. I think it's going to be one of these things again. They're going to listen to everybody. You're going to finally get to hear some of these people talk. Skeptics are going to be the skeptics, and we're just not going to get anywhere. I hope, I can't tell you I've never wanted to be wrong more than I am right now,

but I feel I'm right. I think you're right. Yeah. We shall see. You're feeling the same. I feel the same, but we're going to talk about it because that, that hearing's going to happen. Wednesday.

We're going to get reliable, legit witnesses is going to tell their story. They have no reason not to tell these stories. And that's going to create a conversation within our ranks and people that pay attention to this stuff. And I think slowly it's going to start to spread. We'll see what happens after that. But I believe you're right.

I think there's not going to be a lot of coverage. And I think a lot of people in my wife is going to go, oh, whatever, whatever. Like, you know, let's watch, you know, Sex Island, or whatever the hell that show is. Right. new reality show is. Great. What facts did you get?

Oh, so nothing really happened? Okay, let's turn on Netflix. To your wife, that's what's needed. You're going to need to have an alien land and shake our hand and offer us a Starbucks or something. Who's to say they didn't? Anyway, look, we've got a lot to talk about with this. The hearings are Wednesday.

It's 7 a.m. PST, I think 10 a.m. East Coast time. so very curious to see what's going to happen with this. If anything, there is a big push for sure. It is the biggest one that they've had thus far. Very curious to hear what you guys think. And like I said, as we started this show, I'm not telling everybody you've got to believe it, but you've got to understand that there's at least something going on.

And I'm very curious to hear everybody's thoughts. And whether you believe, whether you don't believe, whether you're going to be paying attention to this, or do you just not give a shit? And do you think we are alone? This is BS and the corridor crew is right. Again, I don't know if they said that the whole thing is, but they just debunked that particular video, the TikTok one.

So, Mark Riley, we'll be back again doing this sooner. Probably sooner and later to find out what's going on with this. But yeah, you find you at the Riley around? Yeah, I'd Riley around on Twitter. That's probably Twitter and threads. Threads is a thing. Oh, you know, we're doing the threads thing. I'm doing the threads. So Twitter and threads at Riley around. You can catch me there.

You can also find them on UFO Twitter, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. I'm going to do there. So for me, again, once again, if you're brand new the channel, you've never been here before, do me favor, hit that button. Help us get to 100,000 subscribers, and we cover in this stuff. We do movie news, pop culture news, all that and more. We hope that you'll join us on the channel. You can find us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, anywhere podcasts, or found. Thank you to Mark Riley. Thank you, you guys. And we will next time. And after the hearings, like next week and stuff, I want to kind of deep, deep dive into some. of the actual things that have happened, whether it was the O'Hare one,

whether it was the moment of contact stuff. We'll do full episodes on particular things. This is just kind of like a big soup of all of it leading to the hearing itself. But I wanna hear your thoughts, go ahead, let me know. Thanks for joining us on The Big Thing, and we'll see you next time.