The Kristian Harloff Show - This woman CHANGED my life. And how the entertainment business is shifting!

Episode Date: July 1, 2026

COME JOIN HARLOFF, ELLIS AND STERGER FOR A NIGHT OF COMEDY - THURSDAY, 10/8 @ 7:30PM SHOW HOSTED BY:  KYLE LEWIS  https://brokerage.govs.com/shows/376674 Hollywood is changing—and today's box office tells the story. Kristian Harloff takes a deep dive into one of the biggest shifts the movie industry has seen in years as established blockbuster franchises struggle while original and lower-budget films continue to surprise audiences. What happened to **Supergirl**, **The Mandalorian and Grogu**, and **Masters of the Universe** at the box office? Why are breakout hits like **Obsession** and **Backrooms** becoming some of the biggest success stories of the year? Kristian examines whether audiences are moving away from traditional franchise filmmaking, what this means for studios like Warner Bros., Disney, Marvel, Lucasfilm, and DC Studios, and how Hollywood may need to rethink its strategy going forward. Today's discussion explores whether we're entering a new era of Hollywood, where audiences are rewarding fresh ideas over familiar IP. From the struggles of major studio tentpoles to the unexpected success of original horror and independent films, Kristian breaks down what these trends could mean for the future of movie theaters and the entertainment industry. If you're a fan of movie news, box office analysis, Hollywood trends, DC, Star Wars, Disney, Warner Bros., or the future of blockbuster filmmaking, this episode is for you. #Hollywood #BoxOffice #Supergirl #TheMandalorian #Grogu #MastersOfTheUniverse #Obsession #Backrooms #MovieNews #DCStudios #StarWars #Disney #WarnerBros #KristianHarloffShow #EntertainmentNews SPONSORS: LIQUID IV: Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to https://www.LIQUIDIV.com and get 20% off your first purchase with code KRISTIAN at checkout 

Well, I finally watched Obsession, and man, the hype was real on that one, I'll tell you. Myself and Sam, we checked it out yesterday. But then I knew today that I was going to introduce you guys to someone who's very special in my life and going to continue to be and also changed the course of my career. But with what we're doing, her and I, I was like, you know, we really should get into this whole conversation about what obsession did for the industry, what backrooms did. for the industry, what people like Chris Stockman and, and you look at a digital circus and the way that the business is essentially changing and why that's hopeful for creators out there. So it's myself, and I'm going to introduce you to my writing partner, my good friend, and my co-star in the pilot, Martini Paratori. So let's get into it. It's my show. Great. Here we go.

Did you shit in there? Welcome to the show, everybody. It's Wednesday, special Wednesday. Kevin Smets, not in this week, but he'll be back next week. But then I was going back and forth because, as I've told you guys, the pilot has been a process to say the least, right? We're excited. We're moving forward. And finally, we're in that mode where our goal is to try to launch the Kickstarter by September. So I was going back and forth with my writing partner, who I speak to all of the time. And I was like, listen, what are you doing tomorrow?

and she's like, why? What's up? I said, would you want to come on the show, talk about some stuff? She said, yeah, let's do it. So I was like, it's a time to introduce Martini to you guys. Oh, hi.

Pertory is here. It's so exciting. Nice to have you. Am I allowed to curse? Sure. Okay. I don't know what the rules are. I've never been live.

That's the first thing that you ask. I like that. Can I curse? As I'm sitting in my kids' bedroom. Hey, in the middle of this, can I just like throw shit? against the wall and I ruin my kids walls. And I take my top off.

They're not going to argue with that. So, welcome to the show. Welcome to the show again. Thanks. But, you know, I was telling you, because it's funny, I was watching this movie obsession with my friend Sam. And in the beginning,

she's got grown kids and she, but she's very active in her kids' lives. And she doesn't, she had never seen a Marvel movie, Star Wars movie, any of that stuff. And the audience is like, how did she not see this stuff? And people don't understand, like, when you have kids. It really... I don't even know what day it is.

Right. It overtakes your life. So when obsession, I said to her, say, have you seen this? She's saying, no. And people are in the comments going, how does she not heard of this movie? It's like, because you're really not in the bubble. How you heard of this movie before I started talking about? Me, no, God.

I haven't heard of a movie in 10 years. Right. So obsession, it was, and the audience can correct me if I'm wrong, but... And Luke, please, same thing. I'm pretty sure a YouTuber in the same way that the guy who did Backrooms, YouTuber and Martina, they made this movie for $750,000, right? A YouTuber did? Yeah.

Made this movie for 750. A full light length feature? $750,000. Oh, my God. Well, that's awesome. You don't know the half of it. That's so exciting. Okay.

So, 700. Tell me the other half. Listen, $750,000 this thing cost to me. Blumhouse picks it up. They release it. Wow. Now, now, if, Normally, you put a movie out and something like Toy Story comes out.

It makes $150 million. You want to get a good drop off in week two because that's usually, you know, 45%. That's a good drop off. And I think week two for Toy Story was like $80 million. It's a great, great drop off for week two. Obsession, week two, well, week one, first of all, $750,000 in week one, it makes $17 million opening weekend. So out of a $750,000 budget, in week.

two, it makes like $20 million. In week three, it means like $22 million. That's the power of social media. But it's like a phenomenon because like movies do not make more and people keep going back and seeing it. And the movie has right now, I'm looking at the charts.

It's number three again this week after being it. It's made so far on a $750,000 budget, $372 million. Oh my God. What's it about? So the gist of it is, now that I can... Is it a horror? Yeah, it's a fucked up movie, but it's really, really good. Can't wait to see.

Yeah, this guy, it just starts, he's got a crush on this girl. He wants to tell this girl that he's, that he really, like, has feelings for her. She hangs out in a circle of friends, right? So he is, his best friend is, I'm not going to spoil the movie, really. I'm just given the premise of it. So the best friend is working with him to try to muster up the courage to do it. So they all go out drinking, but before they go out and drinking, she had said that she kind of lost her necklace or something, whatever.

So he goes to this place and he goes to buy her this necklace. But when he's there, he finds this thing and says, make a wish. It's like this thing, you snap it, you make a wish. And he goes, these things work? It's like, you know, people usually return them. They're not usually, sometimes they're not happy with it, whatever. So they go out, they go drinking. He takes her back to the place.

He's about to confess, you know, the love for or his feelings for her he doesn't do it and then he snaps the he snaps the thing says i wish that she was uh that she loved me more than anyone in the world and then things start to go wrong that's all i can tell you okay so i'm intrigued yeah and and but it doesn't you know sometimes when you say well i shot something for like 750 000 like i can see that in the budget this got me so hopeful for our show it's wild it looks at it looks at looked like a five to $15 million movie. It's crazy what you can do now with such small budgets.

I mean, I feel like the whole industry is being democratized. I just feel like people have, everyone can be a filmmaker now, you know? And I think it's going to allow better stories to get out there and funnier stories and less derivative stories and more original things. It looked so good. It just looked good. And it's like when we were putting together like our budget and the things. And initially, you know, you and I were, because we were newer to try to figure this whole thing out.

And I'm going to go through the story to everybody how not only Martinez, I met each other and how this came to be. It's just like everything. We were right now we have a team, but we were working as like a two-man band. 100%. Trying to figure out like how we were going to do this. Which is how it all starts. You know, I feel like that process never gets documented. You know, and people just see the end product and like, I want that.

And you're like, okay, well, you know, two years of Christian and I by ourselves hammering stuff out. You know, it takes, it's like a process, right? It is. And it's why even talking to the Kickstarter, the guy's going to be helping us with the Kickstarter. And like, he was really getting me excited too because he ran a campaign and he has a much smaller audience. But he's like, look, I've paid attention to your audience. And if they believe in the project and they believe in you, we're going to get this done. And we're going to get it done in the 30 days. Let's do it. And I think that this stuff, the obsession of it all. And backrooms is similar also. Backrooms was a very. popular YouTube series that was out there, millions upon millions of views. And they made this one. I think they made this for $10 million. And it made like $80 million its opening weekend. And it's crushing, right? So like those, you know, all of the digital circus. So digital circus is a, it was an animated series. And I'm going to tell you what the, what the, it's just on YouTube and they released it in the theaters. So the last digital circus finale, it's like this crazy

animation thing. The finale has 70 million views. Oh my God. That's wild. It came out 11 days ago, right? It came out 11 days ago? 11 days ago. And they put it in the, they put it in the theater just for like, you know, limited release to let people see it. It made like $18 million in the theater. It did it, it did only 20 less than Supergirl was cost $170 million to make. And this is all going to change. Everything. Everything and a chance. So that 70 million or that that those three movies, three examples I just gave you outperformed a Star Wars movie, the He Man movie, the Supergirl movie. It's like, and it's because of support and different ways of storytelling, I believe. My light went out. I don't know how to do this.

You're doing it good. Everything's good so far. Like that? Like that? Yeah, but you look like, right. Just leave it be. Just let it go. You're doing fine. Oh my God. It's been a long morning. It's all right. So let me break down for you guys. The reason why I thought this was an important topic for us to talk about. You and I now have known each other, which is crazy over 20. I know. I know. I was thinking of that and it's bonkers. It's over 20 years now. I think I met you in 2004. Yeah. Yeah. And, and atropos, at the anchor and anchorman screening.

Amazing. So anyway, we, so we met, we came friends. That's when I was heavily, I was doing, I was stand up all the time. That was my, that was my career. That's what I was doing. And so Martini had expressed an interest. Had you done it at that point or you were, wanted to get into it? I had done it in college, but I hadn't really done it again.

Right. So then we, and so we knew each other. back in the day, Martini dated a friend of mine and I had an ex-girlfriend and whatever too. We double dates and things of that nature, but we always crack it up, knew we got along, talked about stand-up comedy for quite a bit. And then we started working together and I was helping her with her set. She started going up with the improv. As funny as then Eliza Slesinger somehow got involved in that whole circle of things. So you guys became buddies. And there was like a whole, it was just, it was a fun time. We were just working on stand-up all the time and doing that.

Back when there were no worries in life. Different kind of worry. Very different kind of worry. Selfish worries. That's true. Yeah. So 2007 comes around. At this point, I am with my now, well, right about to be with my now wife.

And Martini was off in San Francisco. So she had, was, we were working, it was, you were an executive over there, right? Yeah. my current TV. Yeah. So she calls me, and for people to know, it was like one,

it was, they were kind of ahead of their time working on digital. It was really ahead of its time. It was like, it was supposed to be like the new MTV. It was a lot of talented people. It was actually a really cool concept.

It was really cool. So, and I remember her calling me up and she, listen, we're going to do this thing. And it was like these flip phones. So the, and she's like,

oh, my God, do you remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very well.

And you're like, I'm going to send you a flip phone. and we're just going to pay people with pizza and beer. We're going to watch a bunch of pilots. Go get a comedian friend that you know. And I think initially I was like I was going to ask Rick Ingram. Right. Rick wasn't around.

And I was like, you know, who would really be great is the guy that I just shot my pilot. I got along with him really well is Ellis. Mark Ellis is really good. So you're like, great. Bring him along. So she was, so Martini was kind of like kind of coached me through and she'd say, just put some funny thoughts on the flip cam, watch some pilots, and we're going to do the rest.

Our editors will cut back and forth, and we're just going to, there was like, I used the guys did like, 20 or 30 people or something, and then you like picked me and Mark? Yeah, because you guys were funny.

Yeah, and there's a lot of unfunny people in the world. Yeah, and look, and we got lucky, right, because we just had that vibe and we weren't doing on camera together. What was the thing?

You guys would use his footage, my footage, put it together. Yeah. And it was kind of, it was like, kind of when, I mean, that was back when YouTube was kind of, YouTube was new because YouTube started in 2005 and this was 07. So this was pretty groundbreaking for you guys to sit and do

reviews of movies and people. I'm not on YouTube yet. No, no. You were just sending this footage in and we were just editing it together. It was hilarious. So, so Martina would kind of coach us through it and then she's like, we want to bring you guys on to do more of this. And again, remember, when we're doing stand-up, it was like, it was pretty great. It was like 300 bucks a week to do these, to do these videos. But at that point, when you're doing stand-up, he's like, $300 a week to do a couple videos, yeah.

And so we're like, great, we'll do that. So we started doing that. And then eventually, I think I suggested it to you. I was like, I think Mark and I should just be sitting together. I think that might be better. And you're like, why don't you try that? Mark was against it because in the stand-up comedy mentality, you're alone.

Yeah, you're alone. And let me just do my own thoughts. And I don't want to have to bounce back and forth and be it. Do you want to make like a magic show with her partner? Or be like, you know, or be like, Waldorf and Staller, you know? So, so he, but then he was, he finally conceded. And then when we did our first one, he's like, all right, I get it. I got it. And so we did. And then it started to take off with that rhythm. You guys added that music and that back and forth.

And it was Martinez kind of editing that the vibe happened. And that when we were potentially, and then for, that's not our, this thing that we're working on today is not the first pilot we ever worked on together. We had a rotten tomatoes pilot we were working on. We thought that was going to go. That turned into a big I never forget that when we were doing that whole thing and it kept getting closer and closer and then right at the end you're like I'm out I'm leaving I'm done and then you're like if you want to stay stick around you can I won't I don't have any problems you're staying but I don't know if it's going to happen in the way that we thought it was going to happen yeah that's kind of what happened you yeah and then it just all fell apart and then I'm a control freak

and they changed it and I like it to be done my way but I'll tell you what it was from what and then we went up getting replaced in our show by by and we brought brett er like actually on the show and he talked about it wasn't his fault he just was hired no he's so sweet I love him he's a good guy who's just hired on as all those guys were really great yeah yeah so um but it was actually the best thing that never happened because then you fast forward to 2008 and so I remember this pretty clearly I was I was temping at Warner brothers for um Peter Roth and um and summer's coming around like taking long walks with with the family um There's a lot going on with camps with my family, tons of stuff,

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Of course. Alice hated everything. So we launched Schmoz no. And then Martini basically got us started, pushed us out the door and the rest of history. I was like, you guys are funny. I swear. Yeah, and that was it. That was it. And then so Schmoz was kind of, had it not been for Martini, there is no Schmoz, no.

What's true? And then so. Should we also mention that if it wasn't for Christian, I wouldn't be sitting in this room with children because he introduced me to my husband. Right. right so you scratch my back I scratch yours yeah her husband was on my baseball team and great guy really great guy um and so anyway so that then takes us to today martinios and i stayed in touch and in 2014 um because i had written my pilot and i did my pilot in 2007 the one that's

you can find on this channel now grasping and straws and i did that during a writer strike all the shit happens a different time uh speaking of eliza eliza was in that one and actually for people who don't know, and this is something I realized not too long ago, if you've watched Grasping at Straws, the character that Eliza plays, Eliza auditioned for that back in the day because, you know, I knew Eliza and I needed some comedians in there. The part was actually written for Martini. The character is Marley, and it was written for Martini, but she moved. She moved to San Francisco. And so when she moved, I needed someone to play, and then we came in and Eliza read and was immediately knew it was Eliza's role.

Probably a better choice. that she kept in a different it would have been a different it would you would have been great but is a different character we're different yeah yeah she's great she was great um so i think she's still the damn show but uh but anyway totally um and then so too i wanted to i always wanted to do another show wanted to write another one so schmose was starting to really take off in like two thousand fourteen when we were doing the um we were doing the live show quite often i was like why don't and i was telling mark i said why don't we do another pilot and i'll write something else because i had had this idea that when we had this bit going on because people know that Katie Sackenov and I dated years and years and years and years ago, but what people thought that it was Bonnie Somerville.

It was a close friend of my of Sadie's. And we played off on the bit because people were like, oh, they dated and then it is it. And so we played off on this bit and we did it like the Celebrity Depression game, everything too. And then I said, you know what would be really interesting because Bonnie was so good. We went back and forth. I said, it would be interesting if two people actually had to do this that dated. had to do a podcast together and I didn't know what that was but I was like okay

so I started kind of formulating it and thinking about it and then 2014 rolls around where we're going to do pilot version of it and we just started kind of coming up with characters and role characters and I wrote a draft of it I was like it's not really there yet and then and then this

another woman very talented Sasha Paul Raver who was on it she helped me write like a draft of it But then we just weren't seeing eye to eye on the vision of it. So I was like, okay, she had her thing. I had my idea and I was like, okay, I'm just going to write a brand new draft. So I just remember being at Collider. It was like 2016.

I just wrote my, an entire draft of it. I was like, this is the version of it that I want to do. And I just never did anything with it. And I just, it sat there and in my head, I'm going, this could be something. This could be something for a long time. So then fast forward to 2024 when I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm leaving L. and I think you just kind of, I don't know how we just, I hadn't spoken to you a little bit, but you, maybe it was because I was doing stand-up or whatever it was, and I wanted to invite,

I can't remember what it was. I think maybe it wanted you, no, it was- I think I was doing, I started doing stand-up again, and I was, I think I asked, I sat with you to do some writing. Maybe. I don't know, whatever it was, we reconnected in 2024, and then, so she, we went out to eat, and we're talking, and I was like, you know, I don't know why I thought about it, but I'm like, I had this script that I really, like and the idea I really like, I just don't know what to do with it. And Martinez, and she's a brilliant writer

and really funny. And she's like, let me look at it. So I said, all right, and I sent it. And I think it took you about a month or so to read it, but you did. Maybe longer. Maybe longer. And I think I was in New York and you're like, you like, you read it, you're like, we should talk. And like, there's a lot here because

the script was written for initially like mid-30s people. It was also a drama. Yeah. It was also an hour long. It was longer. It was longer. It was more of the dromedy. It was more of the main characters like sexual attention and relationship.

Yeah. And it was like they were both, they weren't like they weren't as likable. No. As they are now. But they were, but they, the essence was there. They were both real. They're assholes now, but lovable assholes. Lovable assholes.

They were just assholes in the original version. But anyway, but it was written for mid-30s people. Yes. And you're like, well, let's write it. You aged. Yeah. And I said, let's write it for us. Midlifers.

Yeah. And for us, for you and me. And so we said, let's do that. And we sat down and we really worked on it. And we did stream yard sessions and we went through it. And we worked on it for a good seven, eight months, maybe even a year. Yeah. I think we even took a break.

And then we went back to it and saw it with fresh eyes. Yeah. And we did. And we put it together and we said, we gave it to some people that we wanted to read it. Roxy gave us notes. Luke gave us notes. I mean, I'd send it to my Ethan Irwin. People gave us notes and got a lot of great notes from it.

And then eventually, I'm not saying it who the director is, but we had, Martini and I had a lot of choices and ideas of who we wanted to get it out to. Because this is, as I said in the beginning, Martini was very, she's looked, we'll make this thing and if we make it for $35 then we'll make it and we'll just do it and we'll showcase it and because even what we're talking in the beginning about how the social media aspect of it

we can get eyes on it for sure so we then get the script to I said I want to get it to this particular director who I think will respond to it and Martinez like I trust you send it to them I do and I'm expecting, remember, we, we and I say, we'll probably hear back in like a month or two. And I think it was three days later. I'm in, let's set a conversation, let's do it.

And so all that, and it was moving at 1,000 miles an hour. And this is for anybody who's working on projects. This is what I wanted to give this story to. Because it's moving in 1,000 miles and all these things are happening. And what happens sometimes, things can get complicated. So things got a little complicated. with, it's why people are like, well, what's taking long? What's taking so long? What's taking so long? Things got a little complicated into where Martini and I are both like, let's make it

less complicated. Let's just go for the Kickstarter aspect of this thing. And let's just make this thing. Let's give it a shot. If we raise the money, we make it. If we don't, then we can go to the traditional route and do whatever we're going to do. But what is it about the idea, though, that, that, you know, the script, rather that you said, I want to, because you like you said, you're busy. you have a lot going on and you committed a lot of time and effort to this. I was just curious like what it was. Well, you, you know, you'll realize in your life there's only a few people that you really work well with and click with and you're one of those people.

And so I wanted to work with you, number one. Number two, I loved the concept. I love the idea of exes. There's just so much like built in, you know, drama and built in, you know, I don't know, you know, history. Yeah. And I just saw, I love the setup. And then I thought there was such an opportunity to dial up the humor and to make them more lovable and to make it more fun, right?

Because, you know, I don't think people want to escape into, I think there's enough shows out there where people escape into misery and drama and, you know, high stakes and this and that. But I think what we do so well as people and as friends is we have. fun and we make situations fun and life fun and I feel like our relationship is light and I wanted the show to be like hanging out with us. That's fun, you know, and funny. And even though there is, you know, drama between these characters, it's fun and you still see the goodness in them. You know, we're all, we're all kind, we all can be dicks and, but we all have a good heart and I think I wanted to show that. And I think we wanted to make sure these characters were vulnerable and lovable and people you wanted to hang out with and be with. And I love the world. I think it's very relevant right now.

And I think it was just, it was such a great vehicle for this type of relationship. And I love when we started to kind of brainstorm characters that could be in their world, it just started to be fun. And as we kind of talked about it and what it was evolving to became something really fun. And it became a world I wanted to hang out in and I wanted to work in. It just sounded like a fun place to be. And I feel like when you have, when you're excited like that and you're especially with other people, other people will feel that and other people will want to be and hang out with with you in it. It's so true. And even the idea like we, as I mentioned, there's, we got one of the roles over to a particular, I mean, a pretty well-known name that people would know that even if the person winds up being in it responded to it tremendously.

and said how good the writing was and wanted to, and things have to happen with the kickstart or things to get this. But the fact that everyone was responding to it and certain people in the industry were really responding to it. I think the fun is contagious. I think it's a contagious. It just captures the tension in a relationship in such a fun, funny way that just makes it feel good while also being, you know, dramatic in a way. You know, like their relationship is funny. but there's also all these other people with their own issues and their own craziness. And it's all, you know, it's this chaos world together.

And that's where all the humor comes from. But it's based in reality. It's not. Yeah, right. Exactly. That's what we want people to know is that these characters are going to want to. They're real. They're real.

And I think that was the other thing. And flawed and relatable. And we came up with like, I think it was like five to six seasons. We know where they go, what we want to do with them. And it's like, I listen. I have a whole playlist of the show that I listen to, music-wise in my head, then I continue to see scenes. And I'm like, oh, my God, I just want to film that scene so badly.

I don't want to do that so badly because I want people to see it because I know well already. Totally. When I, writing it, it's just, whenever we're writing it, it just feels fun. You know, I just, like, I get so immersed into it. And it's just, I don't, there's not a lot of TV that I laugh at, to be completely honest. I can name them on one hand. And it just feel like we need more, you know, we just need more fun and more.

But real fun, like the humor and the pain is really my favorite place to be. It is. And I think that that's the thing between the two of them is that we decided that because, you know, people that have asked to, we understand. And this is one of the things too that we knew about why we wanted to raise the money to do it because we want to be in it, the two of them. Because we're going to have a back and forth. Well, our chemistry and our relationship is so deep. And it's such a brotherly, it's just such a, you know, we just know each other so well. And I think it really plays into these characters and their history. And I think having that kind of chemistry is unique.

And I think that's special. And I think I don't know that two characters who don't know each other will play it the same way that we will. I agree. And I think that one of the things that's going to be exciting is what I've been telling people once we are able to launch the campaign is that the people will be able to see this from, well, they're already seeing it from the inception. But being able to be part of the process of it, that's what I'm excited to introduce that to them. Because we have so many different ideas and things that we want to do and explore once we're able to bring on, show you who the director is and other people who have been. Yeah, I mean, I think it's people who have, you know, the industry, there's a lot of, it's a walled garden in a lot of ways.

There's a lot of gatekeeping. There's a lot of, you know, middlemen. There's a lot of blocks. And I think a lot of creative people face those blocks. And I think we are at a point in our lives where we're like, let's just go do it ourselves, you know. It's the opportunities now for people to go do it themselves are there. So why not take advantage of it? And also bring people along and make this fun.

It's like let's democratize, democratize the process. And like, that's why I like social media. It's social. Like let's involve each other. Let's communicate with each other. Well, you know, you'd be part of it. And I think we need to take advantage of that part. 100% because when this thing really started,

because this obviously will be one of many times you're going to be on the show to talk about it, too, once we launched a campaign. And I think that one of the things that the audience has been excited about, and I think I told you this, is that I want to get shirts that are made because someone in the comments came up with this is that they've been calling it our show. Because it is. It is. It's their show. And it's, and it's, you look at obsession. You look at backrooms.

You look at, like, their audiences make that happen. Yeah. And it's like, they decided because who knows if the guy who made obsession goes to a bunch of rooms in Hollywood and sitting down. And they go, well, we don't know if that's going to work. But if so, that person really shouldn't be in it. Maybe we add it some more money there. Maybe we do that. Yeah.

Cut that out. And he's like, fuck you. I'm doing it myself. And I think really quick, not to cut you. You have something else to let people know is like a lot of what you see gets very melted down with notes. Everyone has notes. Yes. It's like, you know, the network has notes.

The studio has notes. So like a lot of maybe what really were funny originally get melted down with all these notes from people who aren't writers and who aren't comedians. and too many cooks in the kitchen. And I think the opportunity now, I think we're going to start seeing a lot of really creative, unique, interesting, funny stories again because there's a freedom in doing it this way. And I feel like the audience is going to prefer this way

because they're going to get people they relate to, people they know, and they're going to be part of bringing stories that they want to life. And I think that's going to really flip the script because I think a lot of stuff on TV is very, very, very watered down. product too. Yes.

And I think that you look at something like the beauty of it is everything that you said, but the other part of it is still like even even right now, and I'm going to read some of these questions in a little bit, a little bit. We have like 25 questions that have already come in. Oh, okay. Right. So normally like, you know, I think Roka had like 102 the other day.

The audience is very supportive and asking questions and involved, right? And let's say someone, there's someone right now, I look at a guy's got Tony Snark, who put in, money today. But imagine, you know, and he's already put in like six bucks. So imagine he puts in 10 bucks for the Kickstarter and it gets made. Well,

Tony Stark now says, I'm part of the reason why that made it to television. That's a power move by an audience, you know what I mean? Like they can say, it wasn't about Ted Sarando saying, yeah, you can make that. Right. No, it'd be 10 Serrano so you can put it on our platform. Right. But it's

the man is what we're saying. 100%. But it's like, it's like, these people who are really the stuckmans of the world and, you know, all these people who have doing it, they're really, they're trendsetters. They are, yeah. They're showing us it's possible. They're showing the industry that it's possible. So it's going to bring more, more, you know, attention to it.

It's going to bring more opportunities. I love, I mean, those things, those are, you know, again, those are expanders. It shows you that it's possible. And it shows the value. So now once you create something like this, more people pay attention because those things did so well, you know, so more people, more eyeballs are coming onto these kinds of projects. And its TV is like, is, you know, it's happened in some aspects. I don't know necessarily for what our goals are, because we've, we've thrown out things like

hacks meets bear and things like that is for what their tone is, but like, ideally we'd love this to be on Netflix or Apple or Amazon Prime, any, any of the major streaming services and to make it look as, as impressive as obsessioned it, right? Like, because I, and I've said it, if you look at it because people always say, and I always wondered when we were coming up with budgets and things of that nature, how much the bear pilot was, right? The bear pilot, do you remember how much the bear pilot was?

Did I tell you this? If you were to guess, what would you say the bear pilot? Oh, God, I'm not good at that. I don't know. It was 1.1. Okay, so I say 1. Yeah, so you're close. 1.1. Now, our budget, the goal,

the goal to make the show, which I've already said at this point, we're looking at like 350, 350K, around what we would need to really make it look quality-wise. Now that that's not necessarily going to be the goal that we set on the Kickstarter because we're going to get to a place where we look at it and go, okay, we'll aim for this. Hopefully we exceed that goal, but we know we can make it at a minimum for this.

We'll have to cut a couple of things. We'll have to move things. We'll have to massage some things. We can't wear a shirt, but that's okay. I don't know about that. I'm not there yet. You might have to take up not a pants. No, yeah.

Pants optional. So anyway, so we have... Put in an extra $10 for Christian to have pants. Yeah, put on... Please. Please. Please. So that's kind of what we're, that's what we're looking at.

And I think that if, and I've always found no matter what, especially when it came to Shmowdown and other things, as long as you're up front and honest with the audience immediately, like, okay, that's what you said. Now, just do it. And let's go. And so that to me is, they know, all right. Well, that's the goal. That's what you got to try to do.

Boom. Go for it. And let's see. And we're going to offer enough stuff where it's like, this tier will do that. This tier will do that. And it's like, even if at that number. And also like, you know, it's this is a really cool time to experiment and be part of these projects. You know, it's something I think, I think it's important for the community.

to, you know, participate in things that they like and that they're excited about and put your money and your dollars where you want things to grow and towards projects you believe in with people that you like and believe in. You know, I think we need to start doing it. I think the opportunity is there for these, for everyone to find what they like and for those things to bubble up. And so put your, you know, you want to support those people to help those things bubble up. So we can take the power away from just the big guys. quote it towards everyone you know 100% so that makes any sense i've had it makes sense for sure i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna read some of these questions that we have okay this is like i said today's

if my phone dies i apologize i just you know okay uh we're we're it's a shorter show today i just want to introduce you guys to martini and guys let you know that we're getting closer and closer so i'd said that when we were getting closer i would introduce you to her and so i am here she is exactly god i wish i could give them some of this script i really wish like that But, and one of the other things that you guys can do, because we did this once before, and you're in here, and you have questions about the show and how anything that we're doing, anything for Martini in general, casting, things like that nature, whatever we can answer, we will. So throw those questions in there now as we get into the super chat portion of the show. Someone mentioned the other day, you know, I have, my dad in the character, my dad in the show is not in the pilot. I have an idea of who I want to play him.

We have some great ideas. Yeah. And I can say this. In my dream, there's two people I want to play parts of my family that I'm putting it out into. Martinez, another one who's very put good energy out there and you never know. For me, it's Clancy Brown playing my dad. I wish I knew who that was. Google.

Can you Google them right now? You'll know him immediately when you see his face. Brown. Fancy Brown. And then also look for Frank Grillo who would want to play my brother. I'm terrible with names. Everyone should know that immediately.

Yeah, those are the two that I would. Would you say again? First one is Clancy Brown. You'll recognize him immediately. And. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then Frank Rillow is.

So with who and I, and I know, Frank. I would, I would, I would, I would least, I could get a script to Frank. to Frank. I think I recognize him. Yeah. So anyway, if you have any of those such questions,

you know, for you, I would love for Carrie Ann Moss to play your sister. I thought I think you were like, Maria Moss. Okay. Tony Snark, Wednesday, excited for the Smet's games. Let's go. And then he says,

Just saw the thumbnail. Oops, this will be cool too. Wait, what? Do I need to put my glasses on? Yeah, because Wednesdays is usually Smets comes in. He plays like these cool games. And they love to.

Oh, I'm sorry to disappoint you. He's not in today. I'm totally kidding. But what you're going to love, what Martinez is that there's a member that we have, Ron H. who puts in the most, he's the best, but he puts in the most crazy questions. And because they're so good, I read them as Gary Busey. So you'll be happy. Yeah, you'll be happy for that.

She loves the Gary Bucy. Tyler Rubby, can you ask or text Kevin if you like Supergirl? I did. Ron H. There he goes. This is it. Happy Canada Day. Thank you.

Joseph claps. It's a miracle that the MCU works. Their lower end movies from 2022 early last year made at least 400 million and the shared universe that made the past to have struggled. Why are all universes not created equal? It's not that easy. Like do you, I mean, I know that you don't watch any of these things more to me, but like having Marvel what they did with, they're able to basically turn a television show in the movies. They made like 30, 40 movies from like 2009 until now and it's just a connected universe. That is almost like near impossible to be able to do it.

It's crazy. All right. Here we go. A couple from Ron H. So here we go. So old Ron H. It's time to give Supergirl a shot. I fucking love it.

I enjoyed a fuk out of it more than Superman. I had tears running because sometimes it feels my world world. I just want you to do the news like that every day. I know I should. He follows it. I want to be Superman. Say the positive and everything. And have the power to help those who need it.

but I am super girl. I am Kara. I understand that the universe is sometimes keeps shit on you. I'm starting to believe it is. It is Gary Busey. I'm so my. Yeah, but like Canada,

I put my glasses on it. You fucking take all of it on the chin, standing. You scream into the void. Settle yourself. Then go down to business because we don't have time for this. Who care? Business.

I'm going to start calling a business. That's a good one. Ron, just throwing in, thrown in the $10 bombs here. I'll laugh with me, but do not fuck with me. I do not want to deal with it. If you press with me, I will deal with it. And you may not like what you get.

Spark up to Jay and laugh with me, please. I think you have a movie script here. I'm convinced that he's in front of the mirror, like, you know, like taxi driver in his underwear. So yeah, I thought Supercoat's pretty good. And then Ron H. Martini. I love that.

I'll be getting. drunk off of it. But Christian, I did too. Please warn her about me. I am a character to say the least. We all are. Welcome. You're in a safe place here. Yeah, Ron, you'll, you'll, that is, that is not, there are no normal people here. That is not the last you're going to see from one. Fantastic. But Ron, if you do have any questions about the show in Martini, please throw them in there as well. Fuzzy Bubbles. Curious, are you shopping your show to the three letter networks or streaming your both? I don't think, well, first of all, we don't know what we got that far. I think what we want to do the first thing is really just shoot what's on the page.

There will be improv. There will be other things too. But shoot what's on the page, we're that confident in it and let the material speak for itself. I don't think it doesn't, it doesn't work. It feels edgier than that. It doesn't work in for Netflix television.

Because like this, especially when we know where, because we both talked about it. That's where a lot of notes come in. Yes. And the first episode really isn't raunchy. No. But we,

we both are raunchy people. We are. And we said that, you know, eventually we want to get there. with it, but like not. It makes us laugh. Yeah.

And so, yeah. And also, like, I think something really important in the show is the fact that we are Gen X and we are a little filthy or a little more inappropriate, a little more sarcastic. We do have that. And it's, we have our millennial and our Gen Zers too. But I think having that, showing that, you know, difference between them, we are going to lean into those GenXisms. of talking about buttholes and stuff. Martino about jelly roll obsession. No. What's jelly roll?

Do you know what jelly roll is? I don't know. I love you and Sam. Is it a song? No, it's an artist. Oh. But he's, Do I need to Google that too? Hold on.

Yeah, I don't know if you're going to, if you don't know, if you haven't heard of jelly, we probably aren't going to recognize him. I think I have. It's a thin sheet of sponge cake spread with jelly. That's his first song. It's a cylindrical. Cendril Cicke. Yeah, no, I keep getting notices that him and his stripper wife are getting divorced.

I was like, I don't care. Gron H. Don't watch Death of Hood. It's a bait and switch. Thank you. Good to know. On H. Martini, you don't understand.

Jellyroll is getting divorced. And Christian is having a very difficult time. Can you please talk some sense to him? He's getting divorced from his stripper wife, you said? Yeah, I think she's a stripper. I mean, I don't want to call her a stripper. You know what? I mean, that's a job.

Yeah. you know David drudeo it's Canada today up north name your favorite Canadian celebrity and your favorite movie they're in shoot um I mean the first one I think it was Mike Myers but I don't know and I would say I would say Austin Powers I but I have to I'd have to look at Canadians are so sneaky I don't know who's Canadian and not um let's say I know that I think Rachel McCadams too about a boo oh Rachel McCatoms is okay that makes sense she's so kind I think she is she like Canadians are so Sweet. That's what they always say.

But they are. Ryan Gosling. What about any of those like S&L guys, aren't they Canadian? He just said Mike Myers. Oh, what about the guy from Splash? What's his face? Oh, John Candy. John Candy's Canadian.

Ryan Reynolds. Canada Reeves, probably up there for me. Is he Canadian? That explains so much. Yeah, Hayden Christensen. Jim Carrey. Canadians? Yeah.

Yeah, leading ladies, Rachel McAdams. It's probably my favorite. I love Rachel McCabe. So that's a bunch right there. Good question. Good question. Fuzzy bubbles. Martina resembles Jillian Anderson.

You ever get that? No, but I'll take it. I'm honored. What do you get the most? I don't know. I mean, a sad mom. This hat is doing some work.

Yeah, that's, I don't get a lot. I don't get a lot anymore. Ron H. By the way, here at Cineplex, Kirkland, early people mostly watching minions. I'm typing here on my laptop. Probably shouldn't have pants on.

Now see me, Ron. Is Cineplexed Kirtland have to do a Costco? Maybe. Here's another one. Hey, KH, Martini. I'm still going to twerk my comment campaign on Team Coco. If you do get on,

invite your boy. Hold on. That might not be a good idea. Ron H. spouting crap on Conan. Not good. L-O-L. I'm all for Spout and Craft. Yeah. Martina.

I support Spout and Crap. Are sardines being captured? They are, you guys. I'm really here for this message. It's really important. It's a very important cause. Oh. Okay.

Saving the sardines, yeah. Ah, I see. I see. Well, right now, it is a trend on TikTok, to be honest, for women to eat sardines, and it is getting a little crazy. This is a great question. So Wiley is a very loyal viewer, and he's really been, into music and stuff right this week that's what he does just career-wise but he he's got some great ideas

and he says uh any thoughts of doing a 24-hour live stream is a tier of the kickstarter it's also a good way to earn a little more of their show 24 hours no i would have to basically come here i i i don't know about 24 hours but a long-ass stream depends how much you're gonna put in yeah right well i'm not worried about that for wiley will definitely um 24 hours i mean i can't stay up past nine Well, it would be, it would be me. I mean, I'd be going back and forth that people bringing people in. I'd probably start early in the morning.

Let's say, let's say hypothetically, eight in the morning and then go into like 10 at night. I can do something like that. I don't know if I can do 24 hours. That sounds so much less impressive than 24 hours. I can start at 8.30 and you know, it gets a bed by 10. I'll do 12 hours. I'll do 12 hours.

It'd be at my studio the whole time. I don't know, but maybe. Maybe. Comic lover. Come to say hi, hi, Chrissy, you sack of shit. Martini, welcome. And looking forward to. the show. We hear many positive things from Christian. Great to see you. Go team. Yeah.

We're a team guys. We're all in this together. Um, Ron 8th. Send in healing vibes to Haskell. That's what you get for ban. Oh, that's Ron 8. Sorry. Sending healing vibes to Haskell. That's what you get for banning. Karma hits you with a virus like outbreak or maybe stop petting sickly animals. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Wiley comes back in. Christian is a soundtrack guy. could you give a song that's in the playlist to show you want? Yeah, you know what? I will, hold on, let me see it. I'll... I will say, though, music is subjective

because you and I have different playlists. Definitely, yeah, but I have ones, I write... I thought you're going to have a minor better. No, what I've done is I've written scenes that I've then given to Martini and then she's just turned things around and made them incredible through, but I have some scenes

that I've come up with, and she'll come up with other scenes in certain things, but I've come up with scenes through music that I've written she's never heard that she never heard of it just helped inspire me to write it that's true i find music to be very in helpful when you're writing i'll play well i'll play one of them for as long as i can that's a vibe well the problem is christian i'll be honest your music tends to be a little more um the mix there's a mix but it's not like it i don't think it's this is the soundtrack to the show i think the show is a little lighter than your music choices well this that's not light oh that's great okay

So that is unfair. That's a good one. That's a good one. I'll give you that. I thought you were going to play all those other ones that make you cry. There's a bunch of different moments to show you the difference of the voice. But that's one Wiley that pops up for a certain one. I mean, there's a character in the show that would have this one. Five, six.

It's the freaking Chaparron. There's characters. It's 80s music. It's everything. It's all mixes of life. The music because of what it is. And because of the multi-generational line. We're all hanging out together and pissing each other off.

Yes. And loving each other. 100%. Michael D. You and Sam's reaction of session was one of the best I've seen in your channel so far. Enjoy the right of emotions. So glad you got to react. I wish that,

Luke, can you cut out, well, you know what? I can't even do it because I don't want to spoil it. But there's a, there's a, I don't know what,

Luke, if you can you cut the part when Sam literally screams. Oh my God. I love her. Top of her lungs. And she was, she, yes.

You scaring her is like the best. Oh, Yeah, oh, yeah, that one. That one. Yeah, those are really good. DJ coming in hot. Thank you, DJ. Support.

DJ, I really want to know what you think about the show because DJ's been kind of back and forth. He's been, he's been coming up, coming back in a lot recently. But I'd like to get your thoughts on any, because he's got, when he comes to DC, that's a lot of opinions on it. I'd love to get your, any questions. We like opinions. We do like opinions.

That's why we like this process. We like opinions. You guys would be part of the process. He's a major supporter. He's helped this, when I got, when I got launched, when I launched this channel, DJ was instrumental in getting, helping, getting into the ground. Paige, we are the generation raised by TV and forms of pop culture. So we have been a focus group for so long that now studios and platforms are finally giving us a chance. I am proud Schmovillians.

Our time is now. That's right. It's so true. It's like, I mean, think about it. You guys should pick and choose what you want at this point. Yeah. Yeah. Think about the idea of the fact that like, because we're in, in comparison, Martini to like, again, the obsessions of the world and backrooms, we're going to be the little engine that could. Because, you know, 227,000 subscribers is nice. It's modest. You know, in comparison to a million, 200%.

But I will say that I've also, I have someone else involved in this process with a bigger audience. who really responded to the script and wants to help. So that could be a thing too that could help us kind of push. Ronnie, the invite. Olivia Wild, Seth Rogen, Penelope Cruz, Ed Norton, looks uncomfortable. I want to see that. That does look good. I did see that, Trulman.

I may have to check this film out. Do I want to be invited? I was invited to the invite. It was on Sunday, though. I couldn't make it. It was hard. It was good. I like that kind of stuff.

Yeah, Beagle Studios. This is why I decided back in 2016, back in film school, to create my own superhero universe because all of the now studio noted superhero films. It's true, though. What Martini was saying is true. It's like even some of the really, you look at like, so look at Supergirl for an example. Supergirl was, that's one that they just came out. It was based off this really popular graphic novel that people love the story.

But every person who loved the graphic novel said that they completely like murdered. Murdered it. And like, so it's like it's, but that's what they do. All audiences wouldn't be ready for that. It's like, man, you can just like make your own movie. That goes too far. This is this. This is because they're trying to appease to such a broad audience that you, it kind of

gets melted into this kind of gray zone and it doesn't really push the envelope or it doesn't really take chances. No. And I think that if you look at that, I mean, even look, so look at like Star Wars, by the way, people don't realize Star Wars was an independent film. The first one. George Lucas funded all that himself.

He got distribution, but he made that movie. No one would have ever made that. No, what if Star Wars would have looked like if it was an actual studio full-on production, he didn't put his own money into it. That's craziest. Go pal. Clancy is the hardest crew that ever walked a turn at Shawshank Prison.

He was close, you know, I was talked about when I interviewed him. I'm 95% sure that he told me I was his first podcast interview ever. Seattle, K.O. If you have an idea for a movie or a show, what is a good place to start and what is your process on fleshing out that idea? Is it outline, character, backgrounds? I'll let Martini answer that one. I have my answer for her, but she's written a lot of stuff too, more than me. Well, you need to decide if it's a movie or a show because those are two totally different things and kind of totally different processes.

I mean, let's see. I think Christian and I do it differently. I'm an outline kind of person to make sure that all the elements are there, all the stories there. And then I go and I beat out each scene. So I think some people kind of just flow. And I like to, I'm very story. I'm very anal about story and beats and making sure the structure's all there before you can put the meat on the bones. But everybody works differently.

So you kind of have to work with what inspires you. Maybe it just is just you putting on some music and bringing. brainstorming a scene and just getting into the feel and the vibe in the world. You can do that. You can build the vibe in the world and all those things that kind of get that going. And then maybe take some time to just kind of look at a structure. And listen, I definitely have ADHD and sitting down and doing all that kind of stuff is not easy or fun. But there's, it's, I hate to say it, there's a bit of a template of how, you know,

movies go at certain pages, this is supposed to happen and this is supposed to happen. And, you know, you don't want to follow that to the T, but it is a guide to show you, you know, to get you started, you know. Well, look at an example for our show, right? We knew that eventually we had to get our show. I think our show now is like 28, 32 pages, something like that. Yeah, 32, yeah. 32.

Initially, I think we were at 42 or 38. Well, that was my draft initially. But I think once we started working on it, I think we had like, you know, because we had a lot of jokes in there. We had a lot of things that we really didn't want to, we said, let's leave it in there for now. Yeah. We'll get enough notes that we know what can we trim off. Martinez really good because I get I get I get a I'm a hoarder when it comes to this stuff too where it's like I there's certain things I don't want to lose and I'll have to get talked off the ledge in order to kill your darling. Yeah, 100%. And so we've had those conversations and that's why we work well together. We'll be like and then there'll be times where I'll say, well, maybe we should really do it because of this. And even Martinez's like, you know what actually maybe we will leave that, but we're going to have to lose this if we do that. And then it's so one of those.

answers is being able to find someone if you're working with someone that you can really vibe with that's that's a thing for me it's music and i i'll listen to and i'll have ideas of where kind of the show goes and like as an initial ending for my my script is not there anymore right but the meat of the idea was always there like i don't want to give the this climactic thing that it's very different now because of martini's voice but the idea of where these two had to land was always there. And that was the basis of my idea for it. Of like,

okay, now what happens? What's the tornado all around that? Like, that was the thing that somehow we had needed to get to that. And then you put all this stuff. That's for this particular show, but there's other ways.

I think Martini nailed it where it's just like, it's different processes for everybody. Did you freeze? You froze. It was wondering. She's listening to me without saying anything. Let's say, let me see if she,

her phone died. That'd be sad because I think more, More questions are coming in. Oh, there she's back. I was going to say you were listening to me way too intently. Well, really quick on that last thing. I do want to say there's so many resources now online on YouTube and that give you, you know, so much information.

I think listening to structure, how to structure, how to outline a TV show or a movie is important to learn all that. And there's just so much free information out there now. I think you need to pick someone you like that, you know, you like listening to and you like, There are things that maybe they've written or done. And just, yeah, you need to take advantage of all the free stuff out there. 100%.

Yeah, and there's plenty of classes and stuff. But you need structure. There's a lot of people with great ideas, but you need to be able to structure it. A thousand percent. Ron H. Christian, Martini, quite honestly, I want to get into our show as blind as possible. Just tell me what you want to tell me. I'm going to watch and I'm going to listen.

Happy Bobby Benito, Day. Thank you. That's from Trey. Thank you, Trey. A, Sol, what does your writing process look like? Similar to the last question. Additionally, what tips and tricks do you use to focus, lock in on writing for extended period of time? That's a great question. Again, for me, it's always music.

But I'll do two different things in music, right? Like for music, like I said, I'll play certain songs of, and to get myself thinking about the scene that I want to write, but I can't write the scene to the music because it's like the same thing, the ADD for me. I hear words. I'm like, what, what they say? But trans music for some reason. Yeah. It just.

As an ADHD brain, if I go on Spotify and I find focus like megahertz. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can put on focus music. And it's like this, I don't know, binaural beats that kind of helps you click in. 100%. I do sprints because my brain will get bored and then I'll have to like, you know, procrastinate for eight hours. So I definitely, you do sprints.

Like you do it for like an hour and a half, you take a break. And then you kind of like give yourself some. time and then go back in. But the binaural beats have made a huge difference from my focus. And as far as our writing process goes, it's been pretty good. I think that because it, and initially, because Martini was, uh, when I, when we first started, she was busy and she had a little bit of a break. So she's like, you know, and I said, look, you know, I'll write a draft. And I went through it. And it's not that it's not even close to what, I mean, again, I can't, I really can't sing her praises. I don't know. She's so smart with how.

she writes. But I had the building blocks. And then she would go, okay, that's great, but why don't we do this? Let's change that. Maybe we can move over this. What do you think about this? And then we'd get on long calls. But we had a blueprint to know, here's 30. We have a play. Yeah, here's 35 or 40 pages to just infrastructure. We lose this. We have that. Okay, we know that they're there. That's too long. They're talking too long there. But we know let's keep this. And we have that conversation, but we had a blueprint. I piss Christian off. every phone call and tell him the things that we need to change. It's true. And then we also have conversations though.

It's like, well, you know what? Let's really talk about this scene today. Right. And then she'll say, I need a joke from you at this point where so-and-so does this because I can't think in his voice at this moment. I don't know what he's going to be thinking. Like, can you end in the same thing? I'll go back. I think I really wrote our characters. It's the kind of the beauty of being our characters is that we can really draw from our own voice and our own perspective and our own jokes and our own experience. So I think that's good. I also do, I did go to film school for screenwriting. So I do tend to be very structured. And so I draw from that. I think it's kind of is great that we kind of bring

two different methods to the table because, you know, we can kind of, you know, we bring different things in the way. But also I think writing characters that you know, like you can draw from people you know, draw from yourself. I think knowing the character's voice is really important. Like, imagine it as a person that you know. Every character that I write, I imagine it be, oh, that was my neighbor. Oh, that was my mom.

That voice in your head. That really drives your writing, I think, in a lot of ways. All right. Little Yankee. All hail, Queen Martin. Pleasure to meet you. Is it okay if I call you Mama Shmoe since you put Christian out? 100%. Yeah.

I'll be Big Mama. Big Mama. Joshua Gonzalez, I'll do it 24 hours for you, Christian. I never sleep. I mean, I got to try. I mean, I may. That would be hilarious, Christian. Never say never.

Never say never. Yoshimitsu, nice to meet you, Martini, and great to hear more. Same zies. Yoshimitsu, do you know spaced by Simon Pegg, Jessica Hines, and Edgar, right? I don't think so. Grasping of straws and everything I hear about your pilot makes me think of it. Huh? No, I don't know.

Do you know that one? Me, no. I don't know that one. But yeah, grasping and straws to me still, I love, I, does that my, show it's on my channel now and it's just you know it was during that writing strike and there's other things i actually it is even though like we said eliza's perfect role i do wish martini was actually helping me write that now that i know how well i write with her and what we could have done with that script and that's who knows maybe maybe he'll remake that show if this one's

ahead um Derek i am ready to donate to the project whenever you get it guys everything ready i'll be there to support thank you dj i mean appreciate i mean look we're going to have She's noticed to shave his chest on air. Everybody's shave. Yeah. I don't do, I don't, see, I don't, I don't do that. I don't, I don't like the Robin Williams. He's going to shave his arm.

But, yeah, DJ, we're going to have some cool tears where we're going to, we're going to have, like, producer tears and other things, though, too. So, we're doing. Let's do this together, guys. That's right. Ron H. For a 24-hour live stream, I need some of Winston's meds, you know, that crack stuff. And also, crack at a butt. PLD knows we'll be filling cracks all the time.

Filling them right up to the top, baby. Thank you. Very much. Okay. Is that his birthday 7474? 74? That's very lucky. It could be. Wiley, OFC, safety dance is a great choice.

I'll just survive a little. Love it. I'm here to help music supplies if you need. Oh, I'll show you. Look, yeah, there's a lot of things because I can say, you know, we both agree. We love 80s music. That's my guy. Yeah, we both agree that Martini's character is.

obsessed with ladies music. Like my and I have to. I showed her a song when we met, we met, we were meeting with the director at one point when I was there when I was in LA and her and I had coffee and I said, I have this idea. I don't know when it can happen in the series ever, but there's this one song and it's from this movie and, well, I guess I could say in the movie. I said, I told you and you had never heard the song and it was from Bill and Ted, remember? Oh, right, right. And I played it and she looks at me, she goes, that's fucking great. She loved the music.

So it was good. Armada. Ray Longo as a Barnaby type character for the show. Yeah, it's not that it's, it's not a, it doesn't go that silly. The show doesn't really, like Martini said, it's, it's, it's humor that you would laugh out for real people saying. It's real, it's, it's real humor. And not, not that that that's fake humor, but like, it's not like a silly show.

yeah uh little yankee i became remember after hearing the pilot's characters are fun a-holes to hang with like us in real life yeah said that's what he said that's what it's been like following christian for 10 year yeah it's true i mean that's why christian and i are friends because we're both assholes yeah uh yay the invite starting tomorrow in the city syniflex vip seats film and meal oh i'm in dinner and a meal if i'm lucky deserve it afterwards please oh my god that voice christia we all want to meet born or be make it happen no get arrested um bar yeah so he's a childhood friend um i think i might have told you i can't tell the story he's he's he's from new york but he um he went he went to he went to uh to jail for a handful of years for uh blue for uh blue collar crimes but still

Tray Porter. So two people just climbed atop, oh, so two people just climbed atop the Empire Street building a flag. New York never sees it. What flag? I don't know. That's what we need to know. What flag? Let me see if that's true.

And why would you lie about that? Let's see, yeah, two trespass. Two trespass. Two trespass. Two trespass falls. Climb on top of Empire State. What you're going to do a whole show for 24 hours in that voice. We lose any support that we were going to have.

I don't know. It just had two people dressed in black clothing and face coverings were spotted on top of the very... What flag are they trying? What is wrong with people? Wow. No thanks. I wouldn't even climb on top of my house. Yeah.

I get nervous on like three steps of a loud. Now, do I ever tell you that story about the comedy store thing? When I, you know, I became a regular at the comedy store, and I did what nobody did. Like, when you, people would usually work the door at the comedy store because they wanted to become regulars, right? So they would work at the door, they'd work there, they'd get their employee spots, and they would work as much as they can to try to become regulars, and then it would quit. I became a regular and then started working at the

door. And people were like, why would you do that? I was like, simple. Look at the math. First of all, now I get my regular spots, and now I get employee spots. And the manager said this all the time. He'd pay regular. He doesn't have to do shit. He doesn't do anything on the job. So you wouldn't even tell you to fire him. Was he care? He'd be back here tomorrow doing 10 minutes in the freaking main room. And so one of the things that I did, like I, they had to change the awning. And you had to change the awning with this big, janky ladder that people would fall on. And I'm like, I told the guy, I was like, I'm afraid of heights.

Are you really? And I go, you can decide. And then he's like, fine, don't do it. Like that's where I draw the line. No, I'm not doing that. For what? For 50 an hour? No.

The little Yankee, Schmovillian forever. Thanks, Paige. Thank you. Shea Markell. Just came from the death of Robin Hood. I enjoyed it. It felt like a Robert Eggers project. Couldn't help but wonder what you think of this version.

I almost saw it. Shea, I'll probably see it when it comes out. I mean, I will see it when comes out in digital, but I didn't see it. Best Wishes, Martini. We heard a lot about you. Excited to support this project. Good luck. You guys.

Thank you. That's what I'm saying. I think that, like, you can see. and also wanted to see martin like this is a smaller stream today right so this is i just wanted to show you as well like this is from the small no but not but but i also wanted to introduce you to see like this is already with the 300 people that we have in here like these are people who want to support yeah and the way that i was looking i was looking at the math it's like if you look at these these streams on live the live streams usually do you know after our replay we'll do 10 to 15 000 reviews

whatever and then the reactions can do anywhere between depending on what it is 25 to 80,000. Right in the out of the theater. It's can do it. It's like, if I can tell people, basically, listen, if I can get 12,000 people to put in 25 bucks, then we got a show. Yeah.

Yeah. Obi-Wan Canoli. Smet's games withdrawals real, but Martini is lovely. Thank you. James Wheeler with a big donation. Thank you, James Wheeler. Very nice. Support for you and Martini.

Very kind. Thank you. Thank you. Page, with the world so heavy, we need comedy and a way for us to come together. The world is so heavy. Let's lighten things up a little bit. I'm going to give to you. And like, you know, again, finding humor in the pain.

Life is a journey. We all go, we're all going to go through a bunch of stuff. Let's make it fun and figure out how to enjoy it. My God. It's heavy. Shaw, who says, Kevin somewhere is shouting, Futog, Hami, who? Phuteg? Howie?

Shee. My brother and I have truly. been enjoying seeing opportunity being given out on the big screen lately. We have a thirst for smaller non-blockbuster projects while still being great. Yep. Good. Nancy Brown is in the show and watching on Netflix. He's the best. He's the best.

Griffin-Shall Media. By the way, Wednesday with Smetzy, as you call it, might be my sleeper pick for the best and underrated live show. Martini on today continuing the great tradition. See? How nice. It's been so nice. Go, pal. Blue collar crime. Yeah, that's what I said, right? I think so. Ron H.

I think Martini lacks BBC, Batman Beyond Crew. I don't want to ask what BBC really stands. No, you don't. You probably guess. Red 55927. How do you guys block out that voice of, hey, you're too old and it's too late to go after it?

This is a great question. I have days where I feel like I'm throwing in the talent filmmaking. I'm 44, by the way, your journey's inspiring. I love this question. This is exactly what we're here for. Yes. And it's the reason why we did this because we both, for this, for what we're doing, it is.

but it's and then it also where the thing is we're not, that's why I mentioned up top, we're not making a show where the two of us are trying to be 35 years old. We're doing a show about people who are our age, who are basically saying like I can just say that my character, there's similarities between him and me. He actually experienced a little bit more success in the stand-of-comedy world than I did.

But both have the same kind of, what if thought process and things of that nature. And, you know, people always forget, people don't realize this too, is that I went to, my major was theater at school. And no one realizes that. And even conversations I've had recently with people like, oh, have you ever acted before? I was like, yeah, yeah, here and there. Yeah, I have.

So the idea is, do you believe in it? Right. And as we were talking about earlier, we really believe in this. project. I don't want to become a successful actor. That's not my goal. My goal is to be a successful actor within this show. Within this show. I don't want to, I don't, like I said to my wife, too, like if we got everything, when we get everything going with this show, and someone's like, hey, we want you to do movies, I want you this, want you to do that. I'm like, I don't know if I want to do that. I, I want to make, I just want to make a really good show and I want to be proud of this thing

that you and I put together. I also think you're always going to have days where you want to throw in the towel. That's part of the process. If you don't have the days where you want to throw in the towel, then you're not doing anything because that is part of the process, the failing mistakes, the wanting to throw in the towel. And don't because it's always when you decide to keep going, that's when everything happens, right?

Because that's where you have to get over the doubt mountain in order to get to Shangri-La and you have to keep going. And you're not too old. I mean, life has obviously given. you a lot of information and a lot of has made you who you are at 44. So whatever you are offering at 44 is something that you wouldn't have been able to offer at 34 or 24. So you are a bigger wealth of wisdom and knowledge. And whatever you're creating is coming from that depth that you didn't have before. So you need to be appreciative of your age and your wisdom. And you need to know that

you're drawing from that and creating from that. And you need to know that there's an audience that's your age plus, whatever, that are younger that want to hear from you and hear your point of view. So I really think the age thing has got to go out the window. I think with social media, we really have this idea that being young is something like special. We all need to stay young forever, but that's actually not true. I mean, I am who I am because of everything I've been through and because of my age. And I'm writing in a much deeper way because of my experience and my age. And I think you need to recognize that and the calling is greater than the fear.

And you just keep on going. Get your affirmations up and read those every day and get the fears out. when you have the fear, you just hug that thing and let it fly out and replace it with like, I am an interesting person and people want to hear my story. And it's like, what's hilarious about all this is you're essentially describing a lot of the show. Oh, yeah. I mean, you are.

Oh, yeah, because I think in the show, I think something we should mention is they are starting over, right? And I think that's why we love it so much is because it is our story. We are, we are also starting over. I'm starting over after parenthood. You know, I really kind of put my life on hold to have kids. And I had to go through like, why would anyone in here for me? Why am I doing this?

Like, I'm just a midlife mom. No one cares. But the reality is, is we have experiences that we're going to draw for. And therefore, our characters are so much more interesting and layered. And, you know, they're not, you know, just superficial. They're really drawing from things that are part of life and failure and, you know, doubt and, you know, overcoming things in friendship and connection. And, you know, your inner.

demons, we're really drawing from all these layers. And so that's why it's going to be, it's really interesting. And for your journey, you know, don't throw in the towel. No, never. And I said to, you're talking to. When you're 54, you'll be pissed that you threw in the towel. I know, it's true. I said to our team we were working this.

I said, this is like, you know, to me, Ronnie Dangerfield was 48, 49 years old. You need that sometimes it just takes the wisdom and the confidence and the belief in yourself at this, you get to a point in your life. You're like, I don't give your shit. Like, I'm either just. What am I going to do? Let's do it. So like you just go and do it. Shea Markell. Christian, I bet you $2. You can't tell me who voices Damien Darkblood admissible. You better put it in the two bucks. It's one of the reasons I want Clancy Brown in the show.

I mean, Clancy Brown's got a, he's a voice and he's a really great voice actor too. He's been tons of stuff. Armada. Ross, Markhan, voices immortal and robot invincible. No, no. We went through and we looked at all the different names. There's so many different names in there. It's crazy. go pal the empire steep building climbers unfold their flag about the power of love and then we're later seen making out oh okay all right Christian already invited you Martini you got to get the family up to Canada Montreal Quebec

I'd never been yeah Ron H folk the naysayers you do it do it do it thank you go pal really hear about blue collar crime intriguing yeah Star Wars squad there he is Kevin Smith says smetzy right there

You're taking a spot today, Ronteen. Working early all week, hence know me on the show. But Martini, I was privy to some footage of these two together. I hope I'm not saying too much. But Martini, you are hilarious. So Kevin cut, remember when we did those? You rock, by the way. Kevin and Luke both put together some stuff.

But yeah, he's read the script too. He really enjoyed it. And then Kevin said, P, I saw your text. I shockingly, I love Supergirl. Hey, there you go. there you go screwface John official so screwface is

not only a big supporter he's got a he's very successful YouTuber he's really talented hip-hop artist too and he's um he's yeah he's awesome so actually Christian you made it maybe not to the Tom Cruise level but but been watching you since before I did YouTube

you're one of the people who inspired me thanks man been on your channel being on your channel made me feel like I made it you're a legend that's very kind thank you no matter how big I got. I appreciate all the years. That's just really, you know, honestly, dude, I was going to ask. I love this community. I don't know if he does. I don't know if you do collaborations, but when we do launch the Kickstarter to it, I'd love to do something with you

because I, like, you know, like I said, I want to try to get the word out there as much as I can. James Wheeler, Martini, you are so lovely. I'm happy to support. I'm going to tell my kids you said that. Yeah, you should. Lincoln, this is the last one for now, unless people want to keep us on and they can do some more with 73 chats today. It's pretty good, Martin. Good. That's a good debut. in the chat put martini in your next uh nights of the old republic movie she's not gonna she not she doesn't she doesn't she doesn't she won't sign off on that

she doesn't she doesn't like to put her likeness in a i yeah oh i yeah well christian makes a lot of weird it's not it's not all right so so o'ski yamatu this is a tough month for me thank you for all you do christian thank you oh yeah look so we're going to be launching like i said uh and i'm i'm glad that we're able to uh uh to put a smile on your face. I'm always happy to hear that. We will be able to, we were running the Kickstarter. I, like I said, hopefully in September. Right now, where we, where we land is that we're in, we have a guy, a great guy. We're just figuring out. We've got a guy. And the thing is it's just a matter of, the thing I hate most about any of these processes that we've ever been in, whether it's rotten tomatoes pilot, whether it's smow down stuff. I hate the legal process of it. I hate it. It's like for me, I just want to.

I'm trying to open a restaurant and you have like 800 permits and the city's pissed about this and this and you're like, I just want to open my restaurant and show everyone micros holes. Yeah, I just wanted to, I just wanted to launch this thing. I mean, we want to launch this thing a year ago, you know, and it's just doesn't. But it's going to make it better because we build it. It is, it's the timing and it's supposed to happen when it's supposed to happen. I'm all for that. Screwface also says, I'm down. Hit me up if you need me, friend. Thank you, Scrooface. I will. I will 100% I'm going to reaching out to everybody for sure. Shea, I need front row tickets to the Christian and Martini Ted Talk. I feel inspired tonight watching the show.

Good. I mean, look. I am. You'll find that about me. I drop in to. Yeah. We haven't even launched. We haven't even launched yet.

When we're able to show it's full of information of how to succeed at life. It is. It really isn't. Like there's so many, so many things that we're going to be able to do. And like, you know, I think that we're going to, we were supposed to film something together because we want to do like a little bit of a video to show people are dynamic and other things. There are things, I mean, I still wish that we can get. I mean, we have to, we have to get other people to sign off on it. But there is stuff, as Kevin mentioned, we filmed

some stuff together that was really good. It was really good. That stuff, some of that stuff, I'll just say the Russian. The Russian. We have a lot of fun together. The Russian clip is hilarious. Christian and I can crack each other up. Yes, we really can. Support for martini, stirred, not shaken. There you go. You ever hear that before? Sturt. I used to hear like, yeah, a lot of times when I say my name, people say, stir nutshakin and I say dirty. Next to dirty. That's what that's yeah. That's a, yeah, that's a friend. Now that's my mom I have to say

assert. Oh, fair. Um, okay. So, we accomplished our goal today and that was to introduce martini to you guys. It was also to say that we are, you know, like I said, we'll be talking more and more. My next goal outside of bringing martini back in and she'll be here to talk more about the show and other things. But when we were eventually able to introduce you to need life, life advice. I'm a life coach. Yes. Director.

I want to introduce you to the director. That's another thing that will be interesting. Other people that I can't mention yet that we have involved, they're going to introduce you to them. And then just cross your fingers. My goal is that I can have news that, hey, all this stuff in between is done. We've got our guy to do the Kickstarter now.

He's going to, we're putting together stuff because it takes a month to like prep. So hopefully we can start prepping soon. And then we get to September. We launch this thing. And then hopefully I can, my goal is that by my birthday, I can say to you guys, we did it.

We're making the show. That's the goal. Let's give Christian that birthday gift. Please, dark smirk. I work on a no budget cable access horror host show. Self-made script deadlines are killer and always hurts creativity. Suggestions on keeping up. That's a good thing.

Well, sometimes you have the engine and then maybe your real creativity can grow and blossom outside of that. That's one option I'm thinking because sometimes you have to like, because I have another project where I have to like come up with ideas like every day and it does start to wear on your creativity and that can be hard. But I also sometimes, you know, find that projects outside can be more fun. 100%. Shea Markell. Here's two bucks.

Man pays his debts. That's fair. So Sam writes this about our other friend. And thank you, Sam and M.K. for doing the time codes as always. Martini's a great addition to project. Just to be clear, yes, bringing her in. Martini is my 50-50 partner on this now.

Like there was like, you know, it was different when I, when I had initial, back in the day, hey, I had this idea. Can you write a script for me? I'll pay you to write a script, this. That's, we're 50-50 partners like on this. Like without the, without her. Something new. Yeah, without her, without her opinion and around her thoughts on, like,

the characters are just so different now and the character and like we and they really have both of our voices and and it's and i'm excited um that people are going to be able to uh to experience that with us and like that's why i really want to make season one you know like yeah yeah pilot is everything but my my goal is to make season one because we know it really is it's the whole thing like i know shows are just like people you want to hang out with it just yeah it's just fun and it's like interesting I want to watch them fuck up. I want to watch them, you know, get, come back from it.

I want to watch them, you know, oh, no, don't do that. I think there's those moments. Like, I remember watching like friends. I'm like, no, no, no, don't do that. And they do. And you're like, oh, damn it. And I just, we have those moments.

We have those. To them and you cheer for them. And Christian, I love you, but I do have to hop off. Go, get out of here. All right. So, martini's gone. See you later. Bye, bye, everybody.

Well, so yeah, like I said, that was me. Just I wanted to, with Kevin out today. I want to introduce you guys because like the other things you've all been so patient. And you got to understand how to me it's like, I want to go. I want to go. I want to get going. And now it's like, okay, if I put it more into the ether of like, we're almost there, we're almost there almost there, that hopefully we lock this thing down, push it forward.

And that's why I want to introduce you to her today. So, you know, and that's who I've been working with for this long. and we have a lot of great things that we're working on together. So thank you for being here. Thank you for your generous donations. And that's it. So did what? Did Luke put that clip in there?

I don't know if he put it in there yet. You might not have. No, he didn't. If you haven't watched the reaction with Sam for obsession, you really should. It is one of the better reactions that we've done because I hadn't seen it either. And that's it. So all right everybody.

Thanks for being here. I appreciate you. We'll be back tomorrow with Chris Carr. And that's it. So thanks again. Spotify, Apple podcast. Everywhere podcast is found. You know what I should do before we go?

I forgot. And then I'll come back and say one more thing to you before I leave. I got to tell you about liquid IV. I almost forgot to do that. So let me tell you about liquid IV. And then I'll talk to you. If you have any other questions while I'm telling you about liquid IV, please throw those in there and then I'll answer them.

Where the hell? Do we get rid of the Liquid Ivy? Where is it? There it is. Thank you, Liquid Ivy. Thank you to you guys. I really appreciate it. And again, thank you for being here and supporting.

And I wanted, I really did want to show Martinez. Here's the thing, though, too, that a lot of people, they don't understand, too. Like, we'll say, and the director will talk about it. And Martin, you talk about it also is that they're not on here with you guys every day. They don't know the community. So, you know, there are numbers that come in where like traditionally, you know,

Kickstarter converts this amount of numbers to this in order to make this happen. So with your numbers, you're probably only going to get this or you probably realistically have to look at that. And, and, you know, with, again, when you're running a campaign, there's a guy that, this particular guy ran a campaign at, 10,000 subscribers and hit basically the same goal that we're looking at close to it, hit the same goal because his audience is passionate about it, his audience wanted it to happen. And I said, we've always had a strong community.

And as long as the audience trusts in what you're talking about and what, and they want to see it happen, it'll happen. But you guys have to know more about it too, right? Like right now you don't know. It's still, they're still like you know I'm doing a project you know now one another person who's involved with that but you still need to know more which is fair and you will um so anyway all right

let me let me go and get some more of these questions here there's a few more um that i will get to before we go where is it uh okay go pal i want my two dollars did i bet you something what did i bet you uh they actually made a movie where the main villain is named roy stalin and it's about what is it what's the movie oh is that uh oh oh oh i want my two dollars yeah yeah yeah better off dead totally yeah Casey did you catch any of the nods to the other horror movies and obsession I counted three I won't say it might be a well not that I picked up on the first watch I was just too locked in and going what the hell is going on um page martine's a breath of fresh air from one gen X woman I'm telling you page her character in

the show is I mean it's it's her times 100, right? And it's like, when you know the backstory of what her character is gone through, there's a scene, I cannot wait to watch her film, Martini in particular. I'm not in that scene. I'm not in this scene. And she's in this scene. And everybody who's read the script, there's one line inside of the scene that

that Martini wrote. And it's laugh out loud, funny. And I cannot wait to see her doing this scene. because it is it's one of my favorite scenes of the whole thing and it defines the character really of who it is and it's like I think that there's really good

I don't know if Smetsy's still in here to see what Smets like the reason why he responded to the the people who responded to it the most honestly the person I just mentioned I don't want to mention their name yet because I don't think it's right to do that without bringing them on but the person who again big audience

really responded to the script really responded to it and had very complimentary things to say about it. Roxy really responded to it pretty well. Steph responded to it really well. Everyone has responded to it in a way that like, you know, not and and they've all said the same thing, which I think that they unfortunately thought it was going to, well, not unfortunately, but they thought they were going to be insulting me in the way that they said and we're almost not wanting to say because I was like, I was really surprised how good it was.

And I was like, it's not. It's like, because a lot of times when you get a script or you get something from someone, you're always nervous because you're like, what am I going to do it? Because you can tell somebody, oh yeah, thanks for let me read it. I appreciate it. And, you know, and good luck with it,

which could mean a lot of things. Could mean just that or could mean like I didn't really like it, but I'll do what I can and what you asked me to. When you start to go into, it was really good. I'll tell you why it's good. If you're doing that, you just be in a dick if you don't really mean it.

So it's been nice, it's been refreshing. But I need, because even if you have a script that people really like, and even if a project of people really like, that makes it, that makes me more anxious to get it out there. And especially, and I think that I've talked about this. And I'll talk about it again. When we're going through these stages where there were the conversations of like, well, now that this potential way to earn money because we're going to use Kickstarter is

becoming a little more complicated and maybe there's doubt of raising the money and everything too, does it make more sense to just go, because the script's so good, to sell it traditionally? And I said to a certain person, I was like, but I never gave my audience a chance. And we never got a chance. I said, I'm not doing that. I'm going to give, I'm giving it a chance. And we'll see. So, fingers crossed. Go pal.

Gifted five memberships. Thank you, go, pal. For the diehards. I really appreciate that. Maybe I will say one. Ever seen anyone peeing like that? Casey, what do you mean? Because you think that that, to me,

if I'm curious if there were flaky people who were sent the script and stupidly didn't read it? No, I didn't send it to anybody like that. I only sent I sent it to I sent it to five high level executives and all five of them read them all had great notes, really great notes.

I sent them to actors. I sent them to producers. I sent them to directors. I sent it to people yeah, I sent it to a bunch of people that I met throughout the industry and met through my time, you know, whether it was silver, Collider, Fandango, tons of stuff. So my question is, you know, because I, like I said, uh-oh, what's going on with this thing? Oh, there we go. Um, how did that happen? It's stupid thing. So I don't think it's too unrealistic. If I'm to putting out like, let's say the Star Wars movies or the X-Men movies and those things should do anywhere between like, they said, like 20 to 60,000 views, right? And to say to people that they want to support the project and what is like, again, what is, what is that the, the, I'll, I'll, I'll,

do the, I'll do the math right now. 12,000 times, you know, 25, right? Yeah. So, I mean, shit. If, if I have, if I can get 12,000 people to put in 25 bucks, we make the show in a really high quality level. So I don't think it's too critical. crazy to ask, considering, you know, the kind of people in power that we want to get into this. So, um, okay.

Thank you guys for being here. Appreciate you. And for all you great comments and questions. And please, I need you guys to be, um, curious as we move forward. So any other questions that you have about the project, please let them be known. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. And we'll see on the flip side.

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