The Kristian Harloff Show - Thrawn will be pure evil in the Star Wars Ahsoka series says Filoni! | Sith Council

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

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But he's going to be pure evil, according to Dave Filoni. Boba Fett, seems like we might get a season two. Robert Reggie's playing a little coy, man. We got Visions, season two. And season three is already greenlit. Steph loved it. I loved it. I wonder what Mike thought of it. My guess is he didn't watch it. And then we also have Kathleen Kennedy talking about Tycho Attidi's movie again and also making a big announcement that she decided that they're going to follow the James Bond structure every three years

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We did the full live show. It was a lot of fun. It was a blast. We had 140, 150 people there. It was really good and we got a chance. So, by the way, for people who still want to see it, you can go on the Christianharlharloff.com. You can check out the entire thing. And we aired the live event portion of the show on last week's episodes.

So if you want to see it, it's there. But if you want to see the full show, you can go to the Christian Harlov to check it out. All right. Let's get into, I also got a bunch of questions from the audience also. Okay. But we have some topics that we should get into. And let's start it off. So the very first one that we have here is this Dave Filoni story talking about Asoka.

I know that Steph is super excited about Asoka. I know we're all excited about Asoka, and it seems to be kind of leading into the big movie. But this is what Flonny was talking about. Dave Faloni says that Grand Admiral Thrawn will be a straight-up villain in the New Republic Era. Not even just the show. It says New Republic Era, Asoka cast on the themes of found family and more. So here is the article over at Star Wars Newsnet.com. Those are our friends over there at Star Wars Newsnet.

And the article is, of course, from our buddy Miguel Fernandez. A part of Empire Magazine's 20-page coverage of the Star Wars franchise in their summer 2023 episode, Dave Faloni and Asoka cast shared a few words about the upcoming series, including some of the challenges of bringing Grand Admiral Thrawn to live action. Filon's trepidations about finally directing a Star Wars film for the big screen is also covered, and we've also highlighted some of the quotes in the story from Kathleen Kennedy. It's time to focus on Asoka. We know that Lars Mickelson's coming back as Grand Admiral Thrawn. the character was created by Timothy Zon in the Air to the Empire novels and that's Filoni is keeping that in mind

while writing for the show. He has also added that he's been planning the seeds for a character for years, whether it is all the way in Bad Batch Season 2. And even though the new Thrawn canon novels painted him as a misunderstood anti-hero, Faloni says that he will be

the straight-up bad guy in his story akin to the way it was in rebels. This is his quote. He's definitely the bad guy in the new republic era in my eyes. When Timothy Zon wrote Air to the Empire, Thrawn became this iconic villain because he was different than anything that we'd seen before. He wasn't another helmet

wearing lightsaber wielding bad guy. There's a lot to pull off to make characters that are like Vader because it's so iconic. But the boldness that Tim had was to make somebody that wasn't like that, that he didn't have the abilities, but he could fight in a different way. In the word Star Wars, the war part of it, him being a

grand admiral, a leader, a military strategist, someone that will outthink you, outstratory, you that really resonated. He's a critical player in this time period and we're fortunate to have that character and fortunate to have Lars playing him. Empire also asked Dave Filoni about his reaction when Kathleen Kennedy asked him to direct. It was an emotional moment for him. And he said, I don't assume anything. I don't think that I deserve anything. Kathy, upon seeing my work in the live action realm, was like, Dave, we have to have you do a movie. My goodness, a person like that telling you that is an amazing thing. But I always look at myself and say, am I ready to do that? I

I appreciate that, and I think that she would know. But it's got to be the right story, and it's got to be the right group of people backing you up. A big reason why I felt confident going into live action at all was because Kathy was here. She's been a big supporter of me along the way, so it's a great moment, but I immediately think of the responsibility. I manually think of the job that's going to entail,

and I want to make sure that I can do it. But he still has his feet on the ground, not because of humility, because he's aware that George Lucas, it is his galaxy. The first time I ever remember as a kid, noting the term directed by, it was directed by George Lucas. That's the thing I never lose sight of.

It's George's Galaxy. I just try to learn as much about it so I can execute it faithfully. What a fun galaxy it is. And as far as the cast goes, they're talking about Mary Elizabeth Winstead, who plays Hera, and she said, described this says the through line of the show.

The strength that they need to go through requires them to come back and redefine that as family. Rosario Dawson says that she likes that there isn't any structure to this. There's no, there's no boss over them. There's no one telling them

that they have to do this. It's a carryover from rebels and these people are true believers and it makes it very special. And then she says that the series will be for everyone, even if you didn't finish rebels. She said that immediate connection

between them is such a strength because you trust that there's a history there. You feel it for the ones who have been anticipating the story to go on for a long time. They're going to feel really happy. All right. She also said that,

the Empire also said that the Lothcat is the latest animatronic creation from the legacy team. and Assoca's targeting and August release date. Flonie wrote all eight episodes and directed more than one of them. Okay, so a lot there. So the first part of all this is, let's talk about the director part of it.

What I will say is this. Do I agree that, or do I believe that Floney when he says, I credit Kathy for this, she gave me the shot, and it's because of her that I'm able to do this, and I didn't know if I was ready, I believe 98% of that. I believe that he absolutely credits Kathleen Kennedy for taking a shot at him from allowing him to do it.

She's the one in charge. I do feel that they have this relationship now where she knows what he's capable of doing. Him saying, I don't know if I'm ready to do this. I remember talking to the guy at Star Wars Celebration in 2017 and saying, when are they going to do... This was his quote. When I said to him outside of this restaurant, I saw him,

and we walked up to him and said, when they're going to give you a live action, man. He goes, well, whenever they do, I want to do it. he's like, you know, just keep letting them know because I want to do it. He's been wanting to do a live action for a long time and he's done it in TV and now he's doing this movie. And yeah, and look, this is what we always say.

And we'll be critical more because there's more stuff with Kathleen Kelly later. I'm sure we'll be critical on some of the stuff that she said, the way that she presents stuff. However, the things that we have said is she's a good producer and she understands how to do certain things she puts things together. So by finding Dave trusting in Dave,

I think it's a good shot stuff. Yeah, I think that that's, it makes sense. It was only a matter of time before Dave Filoni would direct a live action, especially if they're going to make this entire series or like new movie around the New Republic and Asoka. That's his character. And I feel like that's the right passage of the torch for that sort of story. I can't imagine anyone else telling it differently. But it is, there is some, you do have to trust someone to go from animation to live. live action. I don't know. I'm sure there are many who have made that jump, but I don't know them

at the top of my head. Most people start in live action, stay in live action. What do you think, Mike, do you say any of these comments? What kind of, I guess how to all this, because there was a lot there in the Empire magazine. It was 20 pages and I was just a portion of it. Anything that particularly stood out to you inside of that article? It's interesting because you said you talked to him in 2017, right? So that was before he had done live action. It was 2017, yeah, right? It was before he had done any live action directing. And I know when it comes to, like Batman, I can say,

so many people have wanted Bruce Tim, famous for the animated series, to direct a live action Batman film. But it's a different thing. When you're directing animation, you're working with the way it looks, but then you've also got your voice director directing the actors. Whereas if you're doing animation,

you're not working with actors, and that's a different skill. But he did, though. But Flonie did do that for rebels and Clone Wars. He did both. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. But also, it's you know, directing, you see all these comments from Nolan about him and Killian Murphy right now with how which he'll work with him forever because

they've had that connection and, you know, I'm an actor when I work, I like to be directed. I love an actor that has a vision and I can work with him on that instead of just me coming in blindly. Well, this is what I got. So, but he then proved it with the live action that he's done. So it's like, oh, if this was before

and he never done this and they just wanted to give him a movie, then it's a little bit like, this is going to be a big look, we're going to see, but he's proven. And TV, to me, I think TV is harder than film.

In a certain aspect, I think, yeah, so I think it's, it's just a big, it's just there's so much pressure for the movie. It's your billion dollars. You got to,

everyone, oh, you're going to have a billion, it's not as good as a sequels, like all that that's added to it, except television, there's a lesser, it's looked at as a different lens, and it shouldn't be.

It's the same thing. It's just a different avenue for it. But, yeah, I think, of course, If anyone's going to do it, it's him. You hope so.

And I think that there is this, it seems like, certain sect of like there's Kathleen Kennedy, Dave Filoni, Favreau, Rick Famuilla. And then the other side over here, you got Leslie Headland. And then Kathleen Kennedy will go over there, check that out. She's involved in that. And then there's Tony Gilroyo all the way over here. He's completely separated from them. And then she'll come over and get involved over there.

And it's like, they're not connected, right? they have their own philosophies on it because I think that Dave Faloni's philosophy on Star Wars and Gilroy are night and day. 100% and day. Like, there's no world where you're going to hear it. But if you taught, if I was to guess, I would say because of the quotes that we just read, I don't, I bet you if you ask Faloni, hey, are you a fan of Andor? Oh, I love it. I love what Tony did. And I think it was, this was going to tell you anything.

I don't, I don't think he's a fan of it. You know why? Because if anything doesn't follow the George Lucas, all philosophies, it's that. This is like a spy thriller. And then it's not the faster, intense thing that he was talking about with episodes, which I think is better. Like, what Tony Gilroy did is what they should be doing for all series, not the structure. But focusing on character, focusing in on the story elements and not just faster, more intense. That's movies.

That's not TV. I agree. But also, it's interesting because, and maybe I don't know. know if there was never an and or if I would have not been as harsh on Mando 3. I don't know if it changed my being, I'm older, you know,

and what I want to gravitate towards, it's, but what I would love, it's more mature writing. I would love, you know how they do at the end of Mando season, the season they do in the gallery and it's all the recorders sitting around, but I would love like Gilroy, Faloni, Lucas, you know,

and a couple of people in there and just take the, take the safety rails off. Well, that's for that. And just really talk. That's what makes me nervous. Well, because we talk about this. We joke. We joke. We always say like, oh, everything is awesome crowd. And everything about Star Wars is awesome. And there's no critical thing. Those people, Fulham, Gilroy, they will criticize what did and did work, even in their own things. Because not everything is always awesome. But you have to. But the thing is, Steph, for me is that the thing that makes me nervous. I'm very excited for all of these movies. I can't wait for Asoka. I think that the fact that he's writing it all. I think that's, I think he's going to be really invested in it. I think they're going to be longer episodes. And I think we're going to get more of the character development. I do. The thing that makes me nervous is how locked in he is to George's everything George did. Like the fast or more intense.

George Lucas was the guy, right? He was the one who, the reason why we're sitting here talking about this in general. But let's not forget. There's a lot. I have found a new love for the prequels. There's no doubt about it. However, we can't sit here and say that those are excellently written films.

They're not. They're entertaining films. They're not. The dialogue is average at best. and the faster, more intense stuff, A, doesn't always work, and B, it works for movies. Faster, more intense for television?

No, thank you. Like, develop. And I think that there's a lot of things of strategy-wise, because if you ask me, like you said, beforehand, Andor and Mandalorian, someone says, what are you looking forward to more? Andor or Mandalorian,

Manelorian season four or Andor season two, or Endor in general before I saw it What are you talking about? I don't know the answer to that question. I know. Now I'm like to get Mando Season 4, if I'd say it was greenlit. I'll say Andor 2 is what I'm looking forward to more.

Just because what have you done from you lately? Yeah. Yeah. What do you, how do you feel? I'm definitely more excited for Andor right now. I think like what we've talked about time and time again, which I think is important for creators to take into account, which I do as a creator on a story.

smaller scale is that our viewership, the way we view things and digest things and view the world has completely changed from the 70s, 80s, early 2000s to now. And so we have a different understanding about the lore of Star Wars, like the fascism, all of these political things I think were told perfectly in the 70s to 80s for the time. And now Tony Gilroy, I feel like executed that in a way where it's like, oh, because I'm up to, maybe because we're adults now. Like I get this and this feels like more like depth in the same thing. So it's not like I think it goes so far out of George Lucas's realm.

I think it really hits it in the today world. But I do get a little nervous for it. Not nervous. I do trust Dave Filoni, but it's a different style. So I'll view it through a different lens. It's a little more spoon fed. Yeah, but I just hope also that it's not like, you know, one of the, that's what people always say, like, I'll be honest, after hearing a lot more of these comments from Faloni and people are like,

Would you want him to take over Lucasfilm? My answer to that question now is no. Because I don't want all of that to always be follow this, what George says, follow this all the time. Because you can make it outside and you've got to evolve it. Now, you can't go so far off the map that doesn't feel like it. Like I've mentioned this quote a million times over. And it's my favorite quote. I know what you're saying.

The homage thing. Oh, nope, no, my favorite quote is from Favro when he said, we're not making an homage to Star Wars here. We're making an homage to the stuff that inspired Star Wars. And I felt that was lost in Manilaun in season three. In the first one, you get a lot of that Western stuff and the samurai stuff in season two and all that. It was all there.

It was missing. And that's more important than faster, more intense, the same type of stuff that it's like, you can involve over Georgia's ideas and still write and make characters worth something. You know, the quote that I hear a lot is always, you know, whenever you are critical of it, It's always like, well, it's space wizards and lasers.

That's supposed for kids. And I hate that because I go to Andor. But then I look at, and again, it's my own fault because I got turned off on Bad Batch. But then towards the end, when they were doing that stuff with the, with soldiers coming back from war and not knowing their place, which is very much what our soldiers are dealing with now, that was incredibly adult, but told through the lens of an animation and more palpable for children. So it does work. And I, that end of season three, or end of season two bad batch, I was like, oh. If it's more of this, instead of the

animation, the episodes where you know, Lizzo and Jack Black in an animated like, oh, we're going to these quirky characters of the side mission. Like,

that's, that's not for me. But still, it's animation, but it's still dealing with adult themes, but it doesn't, you know, I'm not saying,

Stranger Things, right? Like, Stranger Things is an homage to the 80s. 100%. And it's for kids, but it's also really made well where it's, it fits into day.

It's a modern. show, but it's an homage to the things. And feels authentic to that time. Yeah. Yeah. And I think look, here's the other thing that we should also say is that as you said, it's a what have you done for me lately, the last thing I saw. Now, the flip side to that is Philoni's going to put everything he's got

into Asoka. Because it's the next thing after Mandalorian, and it also is the continuation to his baby of not only Asoka, but the continuation of rebels and all that. So the same feeling that we've had, where Mandaloran season three was just okay. If Asoka is incredible and even better than what we loved about, you know,

and or people are going to go, oh, it should be more like Asoka. It's just, that's just what happens, right? Yeah. Yeah. Now, I just think that, you know, it's just a matter. I think what it does show is this, and I don't care. Who tells you what? There's no world where Dave Flonie was super involved in Mandalorian season three.

There's no world. Because he's on Asoka. 100%. I mean, I'm not saying that he wasn't around. I'm not saying that he wasn't near but there's no shot he was writing an onset as much as he was for one and two his stamp was missing you could feel it

Do you feel that Because what's Favro doing right now Is he got a different film? Well he's producing skeleton crew Okay so was it a little bit more of like Okay season one and season two Mano these are our babies we're going to be here every day shepherding at this and that

Okay we know what we're doing We're going to trust more of the directors It kind of runs itself at this point We're kind of lost that guardianship of it a little bit. Maybe it just feels, it feels completely different than season one and two. It just does. I buy into some of the stuff of the behind the scene stuff.

I buy, I buy into, the Pedro creative choices that they didn't want to do and other things. I buy into it. And I think that it's like, that's what happens over there is what it seems to be is, oh yeah, go do that thing.

Oh, it's real successful. We want you to do this now. And it's like, don't do that. Let them do what they were doing already. doing what you're doing. And then you didn't just take the credit for it. It's fine. But then just there's so much still. But I'm very excited for Soka. I love the idea. As far as Thron goes and the villain side of it goes, it does also prove real quick, though, that I think that, like I said, Floney is not a fan of the new canon books. He doesn't try to keep, I mean,

in my opinion, this is not in fact, but like he doesn't, he's not going to go, oh yeah, well, you know, they did this in the book and they made him like this in those novels. So that's how we have to do it. You don't give a crap. To him, what Canon is is animated, live action TV, live action films. That's canon to Dave Floney. It ain't the books. So he don't care what the books, the new

canon books said. He'll talk to Timothy's on, but he's going to get, we need a Thanos. And do you agree with that? Yeah, yeah, I definitely do. But the good news is that I loved Thrawn's interpretation in Rebels. Like, he is really a cool villain.

And I like that he's like this hardcore military leader who's more like willing to play the long game. He's a strategist. Yeah, he's a strategist, which makes sense for this merger between Mandalorian and Asoka. Right. He's the perfect villain for that. Yeah. And I...

Because we'll get him in season four of Mandalorian. Oh, you think, Thrawn will be in season four, you think? I think so. Do you think he's the big baddie of the movie? I think he's the big bad. Well, I think that was the quote, right? The quote was that he didn't say he's the big bad of Asoka. He said he's the big badie.

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Like it? better same as the first? I want to go back and watch season one because I think I like still liked season one better in terms of more episodes I would put on a higher tier than season two. But the season two episodes that I loved are just right there. And maybe I'm biased because of the anime and this is world animation. But I like that they went world animation as just to oppose season one was just Japanese anime. I think it's so great.

It really showed, like, is a reminder to us viewers, like, how vast the galaxy is, how many stories there could be told with just, like, the simple lore of Star Wars. And they just executed it so well. I just, like, there's the first episode of this called Sith. Yep. You got to watch this one. The animation of it might be one of my favorite animation looks. It's so cool. Yeah, it is.

So, Mike, I'm correct. You didn't watch any of these, right? You are correct, sir. I'll tell you which ones to watch. I'll watch them all. But I will say there was like, one's like, I am your mother. I was like just not in a mood for kiddie stuff. Yeah.

And I almost didn't watch it. And then I did and I, it's one of my favorites. I loved it. What I liked about this one, I think I still like season one. Yeah. But what I liked about, it was even the stuff, there was some animation that just didn't work for me. But it was, that's just me that we reacted to anime. I thought all of this, not anime, just the animation.

Like the Wallace and Grommet stuff, I, I like that. that style when I'm watching Wallis and Grama, but it took me out of it a little bit. But the actual story itself, all of the stories were solid and emotional. This is the thing, when that one episode when all those people are thrown into that hole, and they have to like try to get out of it. And it's like that, it's almost like the Raza ghoul, or the, what's it's, what's it's it? Darkenet Rises. Yeah, but what's, what's the name of that group called?

League of Shadows. Yes, the League of Shadows. So, um, still got it. You still got it. So the League of the Belt for the belt. I know it's, it's over here somewhere. The League of Shadows has that type of feel at one point, right? But there's just these really solid episodes.

I'm with you that the first one is my favorite, the Sith, but there's one in all Japanese, like, with no, it was all subtitles. In season two? Wasn't it? It was in season? No, there was one that was all, was it not? I thought it was all Japanese, maybe it wasn't Japanese, but it was, there was one that was just all subtitles and it was not in English.

There was one full. Really? Yeah, there was one full episodes. I watched it all through. Yes. So I might have just blocked it out. Just blocked it out. Yeah, there's one.

You know, I watch a lot of shows with subtitles. No, it was the one with the girl that was, you remember the, the Glock? With the crystals, you know the one with, with, with, with, with, with the crystals where the little girl finds the crystal and they could, their, their villages are. Yes. Yeah, the song of Aou. The song of Aou. Isn't, I thought that was. That was.

We'll have to go check. Yeah, that's funny. I thought it was all in Japanese. That's funny. Yeah, I thought the stories, the storytelling is just so cool. I can't believe what they can do. In 15 minutes, I know all the characters. I know the story I'm invested.

It's crazy. I just love that approach to their storytelling. Yeah, some of them were, the one with the pit was really dark. I actually didn't like it. Oh, you didn't like that one, yeah. Because it was like, I have, I'll, yeah, it just was like the one person who dies in the whole series. It just felt really dark. Yeah, yeah.

You guys know I like happy ending. Yeah, it was, it was a, it was really holding in. Hold it in. Dude, shut the hell. Grow up. Grow up. Grow up. Look at him.

Your face, could you call me? You saw me by my train of thought. I'm like, hold it in. Well, yeah. Anyway, so I thought that the series in general was really good. Well, the other thing I will say is that. And I've been saying this every time I talk about the team, the team that's over there working on visions,

and they have season three that was greenlit, which they should have. But the team that's working on the stories over there is the same team that's working on the stories of Jedi Survivor, which I'm also playing. Me too. This team gets Star Wars, guys. Let them work on live action.

So hold on a second. So this team writes them, and then they send them the different animation studios? It's not just the team. It's the team within Lucasfilm that's working on them, and then the team... Their studios. Yeah, like, it's just every...

It's basically the executives that are put on the project, and then they bring on the writers, and they bring on, they know, this is our, the pun intended vision to do what we want to do here. We're going to get this person, this person, let's take this team. Here's what, this is ultimately what I wish the big picture would do. And it's like, okay, this is I know what we want to do, and we know we want you for it. This is our overall idea for it. Can you make that happen?

And they go, yes. Okay, well, let's work with these really ten. as far as Jedi Survivor goes, talented game people, and then other people who create the stories, put it all together, and then you get this. And there's a reason why people are responding to it. It feels like people who understand Star Wars. It really does. There's not a bad episode of Visions. No.

The one I didn't like isn't because it was bad. It was because I was sad. Right, right, right, right. It did what it was supposed to do. Yeah, yeah. You just don't like feeling like that. Right, I don't at all. But Jedi Survivor, as you guys know, I'm a new PC owner.

You're a PC gamer? I'm a PC gamer now, not a big deal. I can't believe how I really feel like a Jedi. That opening scene is so good. You're probably a lot farther than I'm. Did you see my video that I posted about it? Yeah, I put on the, because I'm on Padawan level, and so I put on settings to give me hints.

That's not what happened to me. Oh, I thought you said you were going in the wrong, you couldn't find the right direction. No, I was finding my way, do everything to find it, And then the guy jumps up on a sign and it glitches. And he goes right on top of the sign. And he sits going like this. No way.

He just stays there like this. And I'm like, get off the sign. And he's just like. Yeah, because you're supposed to like run through the sign. He's supposed to run on and jump up. Yeah. It just like, come on. That's hilarious.

Yeah, I've shown you the video. Oh my God. I just thought that I called Frank Janish because I called Janish a few times. And I'm like, all right, where am I going now? Because this thing's not telling me where to go. And then this was more simple. I was making it more of a problem. But he's like, no, you?

He's like, you're going to make it a Twitch stream? And I was like, probably, eventually. But anyway, as far as visions go, that's, it was great. But let's, you know what I want to do? Let's actually, I don't want to. The TICA stuff and the other stuff, well, let's hold on. I want to get to these questions. Great.

I agree. I want to get to the questions. That's awesome. Is that new? No, it's been there for a little bit. That's wicked art. He did that. So it's new for the, for using it for the questions.

I was going to say, that's awesome. All right. The first one. Force Man 477. I have two separate questions. One, how much do you think that the writer's strike is going to affect Star Wars projects? Two, do you feel the compressed time frame of the sequel trilogy all taking place over the course of about a year will limit the ability to fill out and fix it? Well, I mean, look, even though we think, and I haven't agree with you, that they could fill it out and fix it, there's no one saying that Lucasfilm feels like they have to fill it out and fix it?

Does he mean, like, with the prequels, with the Clone Wars, what that did? Yeah, there's that time period where it allowed a lot of time in there. Right, I mean, you could potentially do that. Like, the thing is that he didn't do this, but things that drives me nuts. And I see it all the times when people are going, well, Disney really messed up Star Wars. No, if you think that it's messed up, and I think there's a lot of problems with it, you point your finger at Lucasfilm. Lucasfilm is the one making the creative decisions as far as what movies are being made, when they're coming out, what shows are coming out.

It's like, well, Disney's really messed up. up the ball. Maybe Disney's messed up the ball by not saying, you know, hey, we'd like you to, you know, maybe try to put out movies earlier, do this financially. But if you're creatively, if you're going to point the finger creatively, pointed at Lucasville. It drives me crazy. Oh, they, look, Disney doesn't know how to make Star Wars films. Disney gives the check. Disney puts the money in. Yeah, no one wants their paradigm to fall. Yeah, right. They're putting them, they give the check. And they say, here, do this. And Lucas Jones, we want to do a show about this. We want to do a movie about this. Okay, great. Here's the money. Go do it and make us money. Make sure we can stick it in our theme parks and make sure that's right. That's right.

That's right. It drives me nuts. But it's not to say that they're not to blame for other things, but not the creative side of it. To the first question, though, I saw Tony Gilroy is not going to be producing season two of Andor while the writer's right. That just came out recently. Yeah, which is great, I think. Because he's a writer, first of foremost. Right.

I think he's probably getting a blowback about that, too, because what happened was he was, he was at that collider event where they were screening and or, and he was, well, he was, excuse me, he was supposed to be at that collider event. Andy Circus was there and there was other producer there. And Gilroy didn't show up because from what they said, people who, there was somebody that I met recently. I met somebody at, oh, I was at the movie club event that can't be myself and Greg Alba did.

And there was a fan who was added afterwards. And he said, I was at that event for Andor. and the other producer there said Tony couldn't be or he was dealing with an emergency basically because the writer's strike was just kind of just announced so he had to go turn some stuff in and start moving the plan was I think for him to start doing stuff but he probably a lot of crap from people going

and you can't do it stuff yeah he's got to stop yeah and I think it's going to be and people that ask me this too and I think it'll be on tomorrow's episode of a big thing but how long I think the writer's strike is going to go for months. And the July, early August months. And it could all be stopped because they're not asking for more than they're... But they don't

see that. The studios don't see that. It's crazy. It's not about seeing. This is strategic. They don't want to... They want this to happen right now. You understand that, right? Because they, right, so understand this. The studios knew that the

contract was coming up and then there was going to be this portion and they all set, you know, the studios understood. Once we get to May guys, like there's probably going to be a strike. Well, good, because we need to make cuts. We need to, there's all these streaming things that we have in place. We have to push, we have some stuff in the can right now, push it back. How long do we think we can hold out before it starts to hurt us financially? All that is discussed. There's no world where the studios want this. More anticipating. Well, the studios don't want this to end tomorrow.

So it's like, it all could end tomorrow. Sure. Studios need it to last for a little bit. This just doesn't hurt the studios right now. It helps them because it helps them. It's a playing out game. Yeah, 100% it is. Oh, that's so wrong. But I'll tell you this. Like, you know, and my union is going to be, you know, we're up next in September, October.

Our union dirtbag. What are you saying? Are you? Yeah. I've made it before you. When did you get in? Well, I was eligible for. When did you get in?

2011? Yeah, eat it. 2007. Next. Okay. All right, anyway. You know, but what we were dealing with in 2007, 2008 right after the writer trick was like, oh, new media.

We don't know what this streaming new media is so we can't do residuals. You absolutely know how much shows are being watched and this and that's it for the writers. They know now. It's like, well, we still don't know with streaming and how to quantify how many people watch it to base on residuals. Like, yeah, you absolutely do know. You've had 16 years to figure this out. Yeah, I was thrown in there. Oh, listen, it's going to be.

Then the fucking Danny comes out yesterday. It's like, my actors don't want the same thing as writers. and everyone's just like, are you out of your damn minds? I love Fran Drescher. That was so stupid. That was so, bad comments. It was bad.

But that's the thing. It's like, it comes down to that. It's that don't, where a lot of people feel the way you do stuff is like, oh, well, you know, the studios can just end this tomorrow because they're not asking for a lot. This is for them.

This is better for their business right now because they're going to lose. They're going to cut a lot of costs here. And when it's time, because unfortunately, it's the writers that are going to be the ones who are getting hit in the pocket until like... Because they're the ones that have families. Right. July and August, because

as the studios, everybody stays employed, they lose the budgets that they were going to lose money to by doing this. So they gain something out of this. The writers are trying to gain something through negotiation, but they're ultimately losing a lot of finances for the risk that they're taking. The model is just so bad. Yeah, well, the model is streaming, the AI stuff, they got to figure. But like...

But like C.E. Hearing... Hearing... Like CEOs of these companies. Making $50 million is just outrageous. And I'm glad people are out there talking about like when, you know, writer sells a show for $100,000. What they actually end up making is like $20,000.

Right. Yeah, it's just... But it's like... There's a lot of different things inside of it that little things that'll kind of play that I don't even want to pretend that I know a lot about. But I just think as far as the overall question of when I think it's going to last. It will last until July, August. So I think it's going to impact Star Wars.

Not really, no, because I think there's a reason why. You don't think it's going to push stuff back? Well, we don't have announcements yet. No. So we can't say that, but it's definitely pushing Andor back. It's not pushing Andor back necessarily. Sure it is. It's already done, I think.

They shot a lot of it, too. It's like it's... So they can't be filming right now. They're done. They're done with season two? Okay. They're close to done. Okay.

I thought they were in the middle of it. Maybe they were, but I thought they were close to done from one other. But either way... I thought he was doing production stuff. I thought that's what it was. Post-prud? I think he was in production. I think so.

I think so, post-production. I don't know that. I think he was in post. But people will tell us whether we're wrong on it. It'll affect reshoots, though. Well, yeah, sure. But it's TV, though. Reshoots for movies and TV are different movies.

You can get episode, you can get episode one. Unless it's reshoots for, like, episode one. You never know. But remember, we also don't know when it's coming out. That's the thing. Because here's the thing as far as push, as far as scheduling and what Disney could ultimately do as far as pushing back, right?

It's amazing how my wife never knows that I'm on the air. Every time. Every time. But what they could do is, right now we have skeleton crew, that we still don't even know when that's coming out. They haven't announced it. This is a smart thing that they do. Actually, almost in the can, though.

Yes, that's done. They're ready to put it out. So, Asoku will be August. Now, the question that they're going to have is we've announced August. We'll probably put it late August. Now that leads into the end of the year, right? August, it's eight episodes that they're going to do eight.

So if you put it into the end of August. Still got September of October. Right, but what I'm saying is then you wait and then you put Skeleton crew out at the end of December like you do with Boba Fed. Christmas special thing? And now you have a show from December into January.

So your next show is Acolyte after that. And Ackleit's pretty much done. Pretty much done. And Acolyte will probably come out and now if they wanted to, they could push that into, you know, late April, maybe May, whatever. Maybe put it in August again if they wanted to.

And then Andor will have more than enough time. So it is affecting in the fact that it just might be start shifting dates. It's definitely affecting. Unless they're planning this, dude. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I mean, it's definitely going to affect the MCU more than it'll affect Star Wars. Agreed.

That thing is. Yeah. This is too much stuff. They're in a lot of. That's going to be buying for them. Look at Blade. Blade already took a head. Yeah.

I'll say this right now in the air. Blade's not getting done. They don't have a blade movie. They're going to fold him into like one of those special, special presentation. special presentations like I think so Warwolf by night and then he'll pop it

You gotta come on Cates and Cald and talk about it I will All right so here's a That's a big answer to a great question Great question Ronan Unchained

Hey Seth Counsel Well done at the Flappers Live show Thank you very much What's something you hope Lucasfilm keeps under wraps And doesn't start announcing information until

Celebration Japan 2025 Personally to release dates for the films Let Faloni, Mangel and the team behind the Ray film finish their scripts And take their time I don't want one movie year again spaced them out and learned from your experience with the sequels.

Okay, so a similar answer to what you're saying there, and I think someone else asked this, so I'll be answering their question within this one. Kathleen Kennedy came out and said that they were going to follow the bond model. And every three years they're going to put a movie out. Did she not work with George Lucas? George Lucas did that in 1977, then he did it in 1980, then he did it in 1989, 2002, 2005,

But he did that already. But I'm not telling you the Bond doesn't do that. But this is the thing. Roxy the other day said this on the show, and I think that she nailed it. Kathleen Kennedy needs someone in PR to help her with interviews. No, but I'm, but seriously. But like, it's like, it's just to say,

if you're going to, first of all, why would you say that? Because you're now, now you're handcuffing yourself and saying, okay, well, now say Star Wars should be eventized. I think everybody wants it to feel like it's an event. Just say, Star Wars is going to feel like an event from now on. We're not going to have specific every year. We're going to put them out when it's time to put them out. And when we feel they're ready to go and when people are ready,

you know, we're going to build it up and we're going to get people excited to see Star Wars. That's it. Well, now we're going to do it every three years. So we're not now. So by you saying that, so 2025 we get the Ray movie. Then we don't get the Faloni movie in 2020. So how many more seasons of shows you're going to need? And then you don't get the mango.

thing until 2031? Like, what are you talking about? Yeah. I didn't get that quote. I was like, what are you talking about? I don't think she got that quote. But I was just like, okay, first of all, there was a period where Bond did a movie every two years. Then the last, the Craig ones were 06, 08, 12, 15, 21.

Right. There was no. They, unless you said we're going to put them out when we know they're ready. But like that quote made no sense. But Steph, the idea of the event, it makes sense, right? But the, but this particular quote. No, it does. mean, it doesn't make any sense.

I actually was going to ask you guys, because coming off the heels of Guardians of Galaxy Volume 3, I just got, I know that we're kind of all on the same page of like, don't announce a trilogy, but I don't remember what they did with Guardians if they announced it. It was going to be a trilogy. But the way they handled that trilogy is so what I want Star Wars to do

if they're going to do that, where we didn't know it was going to happen. But now James Gunn has gone on record and said that he knew exactly where the story was going to go after the first one was written, like at the same time. And I just think that like there is a way to do stuff. Of course there is, but they just don't, but they don't have that kind of planning. But they don't have to announce it.

What I love to, Stefan, you brought a great point. The fact that after Guardians 2, the stuff they did with the Guardians, James Gunn was like, I don't want to do that with him. But he took what was given and worked with it. Right. And they didn't try and come back for the third one and go, nope, remember that Gimor and him, that's, they're going to be in love. It's like, no, he took what he was given and worked it.

That shows me how good of a writer he is. With Star Wars, the three sequel trilogy, he's like, yep, that came. Nope, not doing this. Not doing this. That's the connectivity of having one vision for the whole thing. We nailed it. But it's like, it's, so to answer the viewer's question, I just, I think that it's, it's holding under wraps, but still, like, just know what you're saying inside of and speak to, speak to the audience in, it just

comes out so corporate a lot of the times when she's doing these interviews and that sounded so corporate. It's very political. There's no reason to make that statement. Oh, we wanted to feel like an event now, everybody. Just like everybody wants, it's an event. And it's going to come out every year. I'm not going to mention George Lucas though. Why wouldn't you mention George Lucas? She over explains things. So

much. It's like a woman trait. I will say it's one of our... I didn't say that. I'm saying... It's not... I mean, I'm being for real. I think it's a societal, like, it's the result of society making us do that and I've had to learn to be like I don't owe anyone an explanation that's like

I've really had to unlearn that behavior of over explaining and I think like she falls like prey to that unfortunately where like she feels like she has to explain to the mob and she doesn't she's just not good in interviews I'm curious where because I'm trying to think other franchises that with a producer that except for Fagie and now Gunn but like Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson for Bond they don't come out every now and then and do they'll just we're working on one when we get an actor it'll be it and we'll tell you when the film's coming out they don't come out trying to do these like hype up

they know that and Star Wars is massive compared I mean as much bigger than Bond but it's like so if you're going to do this if you're going to say every three years guys every we're going to make it so why why don't you just to mention the first movie with Ray don't why are you mentioning

Filoni's movie why are you mentioning Mangled if we're not getting Mangled's movie for like 10 years and why because the three of them are not connected Right. Why do they have to be three years apart? So you're now telling me now if Mangold comes up with a take and it's an amazing take

and he's like, I got this thing ready to go. Yeah. Well, Flonnie's movies next and that's in 2028. So until, because I announced it now, 2013 is when your movie has to come out. Holy crap. 2030, why do you announce that movie? Mangold in 2013 could say,

I don't want to direct anymore. I got an offer from under the studio to do this franchise. There's no world where she sticks to this. There's no, you can't stick to this. No. I'll tell you, here's my brief. prediction, by the way. I think I said it, I don't know if I said it on here, but I'll say it on here now. She stays. She's not going anywhere. This, this prediction of her going after Indiana

Jones. You think, what so, so you think, so could we change on that? Because you were going to be like when, when she's going to end on a high note with Indy. I changed my mind. I know you did. But I'll tell you, what happened? But I'll tell you why. Because I think that it makes more sense if she walks away after the, the, the Ray movie. Because if she, if Indiana Jones hits. big. Yeah. And she walks away with Star Wars still kind of in shambles.

She's still, regardless of the internet, people are going to look at it and go, well, yeah, but she didn't really, the 10-year-at Star Wars didn't really go as well as maybe she hoped it would. It's still kind of a shambles. However, if she hits with Indiana Jones and then the Ray movie makes $800,000 or billion dollars or whatever it is, and then she goes, okay, now I'm going to find my successor with the other two movies that I set up. here you go, then that's a hit for her. That's a success for her.

Or if that new person comes in and goes, I don't want to do these two movies. Whatever, it doesn't matter. She's set up these things and she's left whatever. So, like, you're looking at it in a corporate way. That's how she's going to set this up because that's probably why she's setting up this movie to do it well, because she doesn't, she's not going to walk away from this without a movie coming out. There's no way. Do we ever talk? I know I didn't talk about with you guys. The Lindelof was originally the 80-year-old Ray with Helen Aaron.

It was 60. 60-year-old Ray. Well, no, it was like 60 years in the future. Yeah. Excuse me. Yes. We talked about it last week. That was. I should have gone with that.

So, because I think they would have distanced himself from people that don't like the sequel trilogy. I think creatively it was a good move. But I think box office wise, it's a big risk. Okay. Fair enough. And she needs to hit because she needs to. Fair enough.

Because like for the casual fan, you're going to get my wife in the theater to see it because Ray's in a new movie. Yeah. She's not going to care about an older Ray. Okay. Fair enough. And like Vivi. Yeah. Yeah.

True. Okay. I just wish we had as a Lindeloff fan. I just wish we had his writing. I know. And I think that that's part of the law. So it's, there's a lot going on over there.

But here's the, so the answer to your question, it's take your time, but it's also just, just interviews need to be much better as far as explanation. Like Steph said, don't over explain.

11th Cub fan. If you had to pick one, which visit, vision short would you want to see more of either in a movie a TV series or another short in season three um that's harder for me because i like them as kind of stand-alones i think that's what makes it so special it's like i don't necessarily i mean i guess whatever that one was that i really liked was that when the the story of the one that they go into the cave and she sees that sith in the cave and she fights it off and then the sith recruits her and she takes off screech or that was it was a scrooge

oh yeah i like to see where like where does she evolve that kind of gave me a d'art bane Xanis type feel. Yeah, I think out of season two, I can't remember season one right now. Definitely the spy dancer, the one where her son... Did he ask for season one? No, no, I'm just saying season two. He didn't specify, but the spy dancer, I think, like, am like, do they reunite again? That'd be great. And then even, and then from season one, that that council that they did, remember that big council? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, those are some of the ones for sure.

Thanks for chime in, Mike. All right. Next one. You didn't ask me. Oh, sorry. So here, this is a good one. So think about this one while I ask it. Okay. So tell Christian, now that we have at least 10 Star Wars series,

what would your top 10 ranking be? His is the Clone Wars, the Mandalorian, the Clone Wars micro series. I've never seen that one. That's the one with Scourge, occurred, purge that you said there was not a bad, you said he was grievous as like, nope, this is a new villain. Oh, yeah, right? Glenn Tartanofsky's, right? Was it?

I think that's Clone Wars Microseries. I believe that's who he's talking about. I don't know. I'm pretty smart. Tales of the Jedi and or visions, the bad batch. Rebels, Obi-Wan, the Book of Boba-Fed. Damn, Rebels is low. That's really low.

That's really low for me. It would be way high for me. So if I was doing it looking at that list, I would say that for me, number 10, if the micro-series is that one, that Mike's talking about, this is a tougher one to do. I would say,

because you have Bad Batch Season 1 and Season 2 I guess in general, collective. Number 10 for me would be... Ooh, that's tough. Shoot, man. Yeah, I'd probably put Bukaboba fat of 10. Number 9, I would put the...

Shoot, Bad Batch. Number 6. Number 6. Number 9, number 8, I put Obi-Wan. seven would be visions I have to look I have to

I have to probably do this over again yeah this is tough it's hard to do on the fly like this but I would say it's hard because a lot of these shows also like visions are yeah not canon yeah it's just I think he's just talking about

series in general but I would say I mean look it's harder to say but I would also say that for me because people are right away jumping on the and or over mandolore because Mandalorian season three didn't deliver on the same way. Mandalorian has three seasons. So because don't, don't fool yourselves.

Don't throw the baby out with the bad water. Don't fool yourselves that if Andor season two is not great, and up to people saying, oh, it was one and done. It was one hit wonder. It stinks. Mandalorians better. Mandalorians had two great seasons. Third one was okay.

And so right now, Mandalorian still, writing-wise still, Andrew Topps is the best written. but I put Mandalorian and Andor right there It's one and two with Rebels probably is three I'll go there I would put and you know Andor was my favorite show last year I would put Mandelorine 1

Right As a series Right Andor two Rebels or Clone Wars than Rebels I think Yeah I'd like Rebels through line better than Maybe yeah There was kind of a lot of anthology kind of stuff going on

Yeah I'm gonna say a hot take Go ahead Billy I do agree Mando over Ander I'm still But I'm going to say this, wherever my ranking goes, I would put Boba Fett over Obi-1. You know, there's not...

I just would. Because, thinking back now to both of those shows, I'll still pop in Bobafet from... And like, even this of the beginning with him with the Tuskins, was really damn good. There was less... I don't think it's crazy. There was more good than bad, as opposed to Obi-1.

There was more bad than good for me. I liked both of those shows. Yeah, I think that for me, it's... I understand where you're coming from. You know what I'm saying? I do. It leans more into... Mandolines more into the mandololing is more to mandolary for me,

that fun serialized Cliffanger Star Wars were, were Obi-Wan could have been a really solid, dark movie, and it just choice-wise didn't click. I don't disagree with you. The thing is that when Obi-Wan has the cool stuff, it's got really cool stuff. Yeah. And so it's less boring than Bob.

Hold on, it's less boring than Boba-Fat, which Boba-Fet's can be really dull. The difference is, I think that if you, fit, the tone stays consistent in Boba Fet from, if you're bored from Frame 1, you're bored to the end. But the difference is, there's less fast forwarding to happen in

ObaFet than there isn't, there's a lot of stuff. Well, I'm saying this. And maybe this has to do with budget and he's spending a ton of money on Anakin or Ewan and Hayden. But the sets and the design was so boring. Like, hey, I'm going to walk through some hills and here's a guy in a cart that's going to take me across these

these hills of Santa Clarita. I'm just like... But you said it though. The story choices, the music choices, there's just a lot... The design choices. Him sneaking into that thing. I don't care that they were robed up or whatever,

but it was just like, oh, it's a couple desks with a couple computers in just a room. It was like... Star Wars is known for the production design of these great productions. I could put either... I could put either one of them as last, to be honest. Even the Chase was Vader in the sand hills, these little coal mounds. I'm like, where are they? What is this?

You would have been... I would have, I mean, I can't even imagine, like, before it came out, I'm like, oh, I'm going to watch this fight a million times over. I think I've watched it once or twice. I've never, I haven't watched it over. I've never, I've never, I've gone back and watched it. And we both said, could have been the greatest thing since Empire. That's what was our quote. It was. And I would stay. And I would stay. It just didn't work. All right, let's see. We'll do a couple more than we got to go.

Here it is. Next one. And this would be Sean Callan. Hey, Christian. Love the show. What are you guys looking more forward to say? seeing in the Asoka series. I'm looking forward to seeing everybody kind of in this live action. The way that they're set it up, but it is another series of rebels. What I also think, and this is going back for that quote, I think that Dave Foley might be fooling himself.

And same with Rosario Dawson. There are going to be a lot of people who will be lost watching this show. Probably me. But, yeah, but you're probably going to watch rebels leading into it. Yeah. I know the back story. I don't know the death. You'll be...

Real quick. The guy that made the appearance in Mando 3, 3 Zeb, right? Yeah. Is he in Osoka? Because he's part of the group, isn't he? I would assume he's probably going to show up now.

I think that was the, like, the introduction. Okay, because I was like, is he just a random cameo in this? If he's running around in the canteenas and stuff, then he's, why wouldn't you put him there? And he looked great. He did. He looked fantastic.

So the thing is that you'll wind up watching it, but for other people who don't watch it, and, I'm not telling you that you're going to have to watch certain episodes or you're going to watch something to know what's going on. Maybe they make a good purpose of not doing that. But what we were talking about before, emotionally attached. The reason why we're going to be so emotionally attached to it

is because we've been through seasons upon seasons with them. So by the time you get there, when Steph and I watch for now, until you watch, but we're going to go, Hera, what has she been doing too? Where's her son? Where's this? We know. People tuning in for the first time.

How are you going to get those people invested just? Or Ezra's story. Right, yeah. But that's a big point because you've got to remember. And a lot of criticism for Mando 3 was people like, oh, what is all this lore they're going into? I don't. No, they didn't.

I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. But people are talking about it. Who was talking about that? Just the Twitterverse. I'm talking just not the people that are ensconced in the Star Wars world.

I'm talking people like, I was so much about like, okay, like the myth. What is that monster? What did that mean to them? Well, they just didn't explain it well enough. Right. So people that had no clue, we could kind of fill in the gaps. But everyone else, the general audience is like, what the hell? But that's a different point. The point is that if you're going to introduce it,

if you're going to have Bo Katan walking, talking to Grogu about her past, well, then tell us more about Sotene. Tell us more about whatever. Sure. Because let people know who haven't watched the series. Have to put that in. Fill those blakes for these people. Fill in the blanks. It's less about having a lot of the lore. It's like expand on it and tell us more about it.

So people who didn't watch rebels know what the hell is going on. It's like, don't just assume that everybody watched Rebels. Don't just make the show for the hardcore fans if you wanted to expand. I think he's making the show for the hardcore fans. I appreciate it. Yeah. But it's not a good business. The hardcore fans don't pay the bills.

No. As much as we in our little Twitter sphere and social media sphere, that's not the giant world of the people living in Missouri that, you know, tune into Star Wars. If that's the case. All right. Next one. And this is me going off the air.

What's going on? Jesus. that one. Wicked Art. By the way, Wicked Art had made this, not only he is the one who made this beautiful design in the back that we're looking at, he also did a capes and Cal's comic book. Oh, that's cool. That will be available

to the website members, and you will get that in both hard copy and digital, and we're going to make that available probably in June. I just want to let him know because he sent it to me, and I've just been so busy, having had a chance to respond to emails, but I got it, and I'm excited. The final is,

uh, it has been delivered. All right, Wicked Art. He says, been playing Jedi Survivor and the story and Lauren, they're so cool with the High Republic

stuff that they also included. Do you think they're setting it up and we'll get High Republic era shows or movie soon? I think that they're making it, this is again, why, why I'm giving such high credit to the team that's involved. Because that team

does want to get people more involved. Remember this, though, too, which is the smart move and what they should be doing. That team handles the books, the comics, you know, the games,

the visions, all that. It handles all that. So, of course, they're going to want to tell you more about it inside because they want you to pay attention. They want you to think that it counts. The smart move by it is because it is canon inside the Jedi Survivor. The smart move by them doing that is because that will help built up the people who don't give a crap about the books over there and stuff too. It'll kind of force them into, well, look what we did here.

Look what we put this little nugget in. and it really works. So I think that they're teasing High Republic stuff because High Republic is at the end of the High Republic for the Acolyte, and I think they're going to try to get the interest up in it more because they really push that the book series high.

So, yeah, I do think that there's absolutely a push and why they're doing it. Definitely. They made an entire show on Star Wars hosted by Christina Arreal about the High Republic. I think they're putting a law of effort into

this era of Star Wars, which I personally love. And I think the game just like, there's so much love for the game. I think that they're going to end up doing the rumor about making that a live action. I think so, too. And they're going to give you a little pause of a little taste of it in the acolyte to say, look, this is the end of the High Republic.

Let us know if you want to see like in all of its heights. It's been in the timeline when they announce the timeline. That's one of the things too, by the way, that give the team a lot of credit for instead of trying to, this is our DC universe and this is our Marvel universe. No, we're not, we're not beholden to that. What we have is timeline. So if Steph Sabraa, she's, she just directed five big movies. And she wants to do something inside of the Star Wars universe.

And she comes in, well, what do you want to do? I love that you guys talked about this, this High Republic stuff. Like I read a couple of the books. And my story, what I was thinking is, I want to play inside of this timeline. Do you have stuff inside that's open? Well, yeah, we were thinking about this story or you have your own take on it. And that's how you can play. And, like, directors and writers can come in and pitch.

stuff from those timelines. I think it's a very smart move. Yeah. Let's do, we'll do two more and then we'll get out of here. Thank you to Wicked Art, by the way, the man. It's the best. Okay, so here is, where the hell is it?

Okay. Next question. Gunslinger, 199. This question feels more appropriate here. Do you think that they will fix the Dark Sabre in Asoka and never mention it in season four of the Mandalorian? No, I think that

Dark Saber is done. I don't like the way that they did it. I understand why they did it because it was more so about showing that it's more about unity than just one simple thing. I get the message. I just, one of the many things I think it wasn't handled wonderfully. Yeah. It crushes it with his hand. I know. It's like the one thing that I got from Galaxy's Edge too. It was a Dark Sabre? Yeah. Like, I just, I love my Dark Sabre. Well, you're the leader of Mandelorna. Right. That's right. Right. So, yeah, I didn't necessarily love the way that was kind of played out.

But I'm not. But I get it. Do you understand why they, because, you know. I get why. I get why. Yeah, it makes sense. I, I, the choice itself of why. We're not going to be beholden to this thing anymore.

Sure. Sure. I don't, I don't question that choice. I question the choice of how it was done. Did anyone, does there a book or anything that goes into who made it? It just show up. I feel like in the Clone Wars, they, explained it, didn't it? Yeah, yeah.

It was created by like the leader of Mandalor. Yeah, something like that. Who was a Jedi? It was a Jedi that came it was one of the first Mandelaer Jedi, I think it was a crossover. I'm pretty sure. Again, we'll have people smarter than us

telling us. Much smarter than us telling us. All right, this is the very last one that we'll do. Nathan Judge, I know Disney will never do this, but how would you like a show about Palpatine finding Darth Maul and the origin of turning him into a civil lord? I feel like it could have similar impact to the Duke episodes and Tales of the Jedi.

Well, again, not for Nathan, not to go through the point. It has nothing to do with whether Disney will do it. It has a matter of if Lucasfilm wants to do it, and they pitch it because they're doing an accolite and accolites leading with the evils, right? So if they decided, now, will Lucasfilm do that? I don't know. I don't know if Lucasfilm will run with it. I think that I do believe the rumor of her wanting to stay away from legacy characters for now.

which is probably something they want to try to create a whole bunch of new things. But no, I don't think that they're going to do it. I would love to see. They actually touch on that in the Plagueist novel of how he finds. I would love to see Baby Mall in Tales of the Jedi. Can you imagine it's a little sneaky whores? Oh, Steph, Jesus. Come on, I can't.

Okay, I'll say something. I got my two cents. I got thrown here. Your head, Ralph. Am I the only one out there? And then you guys listen and watch this, That's just like, you know what? Mall when he first showed up in that Phantom Menace was so badass.

And then he died and that should have been it. You haven't watched Clone Wars though. I know. And then he pops up in solos and he's got robot legs. And this one over here wants baby mall. It takes away the mysteriousness of the character. Sometimes a character is just evil. I just want to show up and be a bad motherfucker.

He is bad. But I don't want. You know what I love? I love that you edited the bad part, but still said the other thing. You know what I love, Steph? What? Sometimes I want. bad guys to just like the high evolutionary

guardians. Yeah. There's not a single redeeming thing about that guy. He is a horrible human being. I don't like when people are redeemed all time. So sometimes I just want Maul's not redeeming up with this and that and he's this and he'll see the sides and he might team he might

have an aggrat. Did he ever does he ever seen with Obi-Wan where he's kind of like all right we'll team up to fight this other villain? Is there any kind of team up with them or something? That man killed his mentor. So you never wants to be not on the darts So what you just said there, your first point of the redeeming thing, you got me. Yeah.

You lost me on everything else because you didn't watch the series. And the way that they handled Mall and Clone Wars worked really well. And Rebels. But I don't want him walking around. Oh, that would have been before his legs, right? Rebels, yeah. Clone Wars would be before. Oh, no, it's not, yeah.

Spanamanus. I don't want to see that. Once he comes back. Who pulled him out of that? I want you to take it easy first time. Who pull them? I'm coming in hot. Now I'll get worked up.

I have to go to work now after this. I'm not even worked up at work yet. What are you worked up about? When he first shows up with the spider things, it's going to drive you nuts. What's spider things? His legs. Who pulled him out of that pit? That thousand foot pit he fell down.

Watch the show. Just watch the show. And then what I will tell you is that he, the whole Mandelor stuff with him is fantastic. The sum of the Soka, fantastic. Sam Woodward does an amazing job. With Ezra works. Oh, the Ezra stuff works. Yeah.

Yeah, it really does. It does play. And that episode. Don't knock until you try it, brother. I love how white you said Hey, no, I'm not going to tell you, I'm not going to tell you, brother. Hey, she'll do.

There's two a couple of baddies up here. He should try it. He had a spider legs, but man, he was fun. Yeah, I really like that. It was nice metal and everything. Anyway, that's what our episode's all about. So enjoy the, I hope you had a good time here on Big Thing. We had a good time, and we're glad that you enjoyed it.

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