The Kristian Harloff Show - Thunderbolts' LEWIS PULLMAN on becoming Sentry, filming THAT post credit scene + Spaceballs 2!

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

Kristian sits down with Bob!  Lewis Pullman visits and talks all about Thunderbolts* / The New Avengers, Sentry, the post creditscene, Spaceballs 2 and working with his father!

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i thought it was going to enjoy it's right my it's my style and i dug it yeah i dug it so my guest today and i said it again you look at the tape not just because he's here said he's one of standouts in the movie and you know him as Bob you know him as and it's going to be spoilers sentry void ladies and gentlemen Lewis Pullman is here what's up Lewis how are you man so good so happy to be here thank you for having me I'm glad to have you man like I said you really you knocked it out of the park with this one brother this is really a good film it's just uh you know I'm I'm pretty honest you know so like my thing is that I think I like most people Marvel fan and I think even as Deadpool joked they were into kind of a well

little bit of a down face, right? And this one, I think, got us back. I think it's got us back on track and because you care about the characters. You really care about what's going on. So I wanted to ask you, you know, because I know you've talked about it. I've seen, you know, some of the interviews that you've been doing, but I wanted to get your perspective on it. They originally, you know, Stephen you're supposed to do this role. Strikes happen. Strikes happen. What's, what happens? You get the phone call. You have to audition. How does this come across your desk, as they say? Yeah. It came across pretty fast because they were

you know they had Stephen had dropped out and and so they were looking for somebody quick you know and so I think strangely like I've had good you know fortune I had that with I think

at times at the El Royale you know I don't think they could get I don't think they could get Tom Holland and then so then they were looking for somebody and I've had that with a couple other films and And it's an interesting kind of position to take because you're like, okay, obviously, like, Stephen is like one of my favorite actors and he's incredible.

And so knowing that he was, you know, going to step into those shoes was really intimidating. And obviously, in some ways it was helpful to me because it was so intimidating and that it gave me such imposter syndrome that I already had kind of with going into Marvel that was, like, bled into how I think I played Bob, you know. I already came in naturally with this kind of I probably shouldn't be here. And I don't know if I can pull this off kind of an attitude, which was a strong and overpowering feeling that I couldn't like act my way out of entirely. Obviously, there's still that bleed through.

Did you have any conversations with Stephen at all about, have you ever any contact with him at all about how he was going to play the character? Did you know him at all? I was just curious. No, I don't think I've ever met him, but I have mutual friends and they all speak so highly of him. And I think that maybe I think even if I did have the opportunity to reach out to him, I think I would have maybe it would have been hard to know how he was going to tackle it and not, you know, you know, inherently kind of maybe subliminally kind of try and replicate that or something, which is obviously an impossible task. you know his i don't have the same strengths that stephen does and so um uh yeah yeah it wasn't your first um like kind of mix up with marvel too right because there is there is did you went you went

you for for spider man to go in there originally to take take did you did you that's that's word in the street i don't think i ever went in for spider okay um but i did you know you know you auditioned for all sorts of other little things i I don't think I ever, I think I auditioned for something in Craven and for, you know, a couple, maybe one other thing smaller. Spider-Man adjacent. Spide Man adjacent. Yeah, yeah. Got it, got it.

All right. So you get, so this one, and then you come in here and you do, I mean, like, so they're not, I think what you just said there and how you had to approach that and how we first see Bob, that he is so, so, there's just so much going on there, obviously. There's so much. the battle with mental health in this movie is obviously a major, major theme throughout it. And so it's interesting that you say that about how you take that as an actor going, I feel like I'm an imposter here. At what point do you tell yourself, like, you know what? I'm going to use this shit.

I'm going to use this and make this work for me. And are you getting any notes on that approach of how you're playing Bob? Yeah. I mean, I think pretty early on, you know, your kind of disposition is always shifting. and is always going to be in a very specific state at the beginning of every project. And so I think it's really important to kind of check in with that and be like, okay, this can actually be a little bit of jet fuel

that I can inject into this. And then other things where it's like, this is actually only harmful and this is not a helpful feeling that I have inherently. And so then you have to work extra hard to kind of dismantle those. And then the things that you do feel like you can infuse into the character, you kind of like infuse them with with kind of more attention and kind of like water those little seeds. Yeah. And it is you can you can see it because there's a still I mean you got it he's got to balance

that whole thing with even when they're forming that relationship between them in the beginning. They had the whole goal. Someone's because you know the title now is out about now it's called New Avengers and that's that's out there now and people are discussing and people are why they revealing it so so quick. And I said my counter to that whole thing is the movie isn't really about them becoming new Avengers. The movie is about them forming a team and working together. It could be called anything, but that's a different conversation as far as why. It's marketing.

It makes sense. It's an IP. I get it. But as far as, it's not what the overall essence of what they are. But when they're forming their group, you know, Lina and Walker and all them, pops watching from the back, you know, at one point. He's just trying to fit in there because he's such like a kind of, he's a powerful. He's a complex character.

and how do you do that? How do you balance the strength, the vulnerability? And what do you think that you, what were you like most proud that you added to the century? Man, good question. Yeah, I mean, you know, in some ways he is like the conduit for the audience in the beginning in that he is just a guy. Yeah.

You know, amongst legends and that are kind of larger than life. And so you get to kind of like be the audience member in. the room and kind of be that that conduit for them and and that's an easy thing to do because you know not having been in any superhero movies like stepping on set with that incredible cast right i was kind of just in awe and and and and then kind of like gaining my confidence throughout the course of the film and like knowing that you know he he does have these these illusions of grandeur and and like so then kind of allowing those kind of moments where I might be like, you know, I had to really talk myself up. And, you know, once I got in the suit, it was like hard to convince myself that I was like,

you know, I was going to be able to pull it off. I had to like take five minutes alone and be like looking at myself in the mirror and I'm like, just like talk myself up in taxi driver style, you know? Yeah, easy day. I'm just going to go do a scene with Julia and everything. It's going to be easy. Yeah, it's going to beat up like five really powerful, cool people. Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, basically just like, luckily, you know, Jake was so patient and was so kind of wanted to spend the time with me to like create this guy together. Yeah. And so we were able to be like, yeah, draw from certain parts of me. And then other parts where I was like, this is going to be a leap of faith.

And I don't have as much of me in here. But I was really proud of that whole sequence where, you know, where he does end up. kind of kicking ass. Yeah, and he does. That scene, that seems so great because you have to, and I think that that's where you have to really, I'm sure there was so much on your shoulders, because one of the things as I mentioned,

even when face one through three were popping, right? When all that stuff was happening, it wasn't really, there was like a few villains that would come in and you'd be like, oh, that, like, you'd have killmonger or you'd have, like, Robert Redford was a really good villain, but a lot of the villains were kind of like hit and miss.

And so we're in this face. You're like, oh, man. And I know that it's weird saying that because he's not a full villain all the way. But for the most part, he's the guy that they've got a face. And so like you said, I even hearing you talk about, because you just assume as an outsider, you know, watching this stuff. You're like, oh, well, he's an actor. He goes in there and, you know, and he's been around. He's been doing stuff for a bit.

So it's just, it's every day walking in there. But no, you're sitting there now having to act with all these, as you say, legends, these people that have been in these. things before. You're the new kid on the block. And you have to be this intimidating kind of villain. So, and especially when you have like this team that's full of these anti-heroes, they have these morally kind of gray characters, whether it's Elena, Bucky, Taskmaster. Where does Bob Taskmaster, like, where does he fit into the dynamic in your mind? I mean, yeah, it was hard to kind of put a finger on, like, you know, when he, the villainous nature of him, you know, and how far to go in that direction.

Yeah. Because ideally, you want to land in a place where the audience isn't so certain about you that they, that they can't relate to you at the end and that they can't connect to those sequences that we have at the end, which are really, is going to be what ties the whole, you know, the whole movie together. And so that kind of balancing act was difficult. Obviously, as an actor, you know, I think we, and we did do a lot of versions of him where he was a lot more kind of leaning into that, that kind of like more black and white villainous kind of thing. And it, and it was, it was not as safe of a place to kind of live with him because you need to be able to still relate to him at the end of the day.

And I think that like when I was doing that scene, like it's so hard. What surprised me was like, I was like once, you know, when you're doing those things, if you're, like melting a gun with your eyes or you are like pulling out a whole like you know bar and you're throwing it across the room how do you do that in a way that doesn't fully replicate what you've seen because you know i've just grown up watching these movies and obviously like it's tempting to just be like well i thought it was really cool and he did it i thought it was cool and she did this so i'm gonna kind of like do that and you don't want to sing the same song twice right and so finding what is true to me, Lewis, of how it would feel to do those things and to have that power and how kind of

intoxicating it would feel, regardless of the fact that you don't believe in the cause of your violence, right? And like, and he's still kind of like, has this muddied kind of moral compass at that very moment. And so it is like, and but getting kind of drunk on that power was something I was like, okay, I think I can maybe imagine, because we all do. Yeah, sure. I'm like, what would be like to? If we could, you know, fly it, fly over here. You guys did it. You did it. Trade coffee is back. Oh, my gosh. So happy. I love trade coffee. They are my lifeline at this point. I love them so much because coffee is, it's an essential for me.

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And it makes a bad man even worse, right? And they say the same thing about sent just like it's not necessarily the guy's like a backup, but he's got his issues. He's got a problem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, you get a hold of that.

And it's like, I mean, still, even the fact that there's, I love what the movie did where it took some, it made, it got a little bit more adult. I like the fact that when I, I almost like said, did you say he was, he was on meth at one point? Like, yeah. Like, were you shocked that they went there in this script? I was shocked when I read those sides. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that, yeah, there was like, that was a moment where I was like this, yeah, this is not straying away.

This is not like, cowering, you know, to, to the fear of like, what is this too? far because there was always such like good reasoning for that like I think that yes that is kind of like a funny scene but it's also like very telling and very illuminating to where he came from and it kind of can fill in the blanks for why he's doing what he's doing now yeah it's like you can see like there's just like I said and everybody in this movie has layers and you care about what's gone characters and maybe before even so in previous movies had more like oh I understand them more I think even more Valentina is another example. It's like, oh, I get it now with looking what she had to go through with her dad and all that.

So you watch all this kind of crazy shit going on. I can't, and I can't even imagine watching certain things that you saw, like on set. Like, do you, like, from being on this particular movies, I know you've been a part of a lot of big productions, but this particular movie, was there something in particular that you could say is like, that was the craziest day for me. It's like a wild day. Like, just being on set, realizing I can't believe I'm part of this, like, production. I mean, that final sequence in the lab where Bob fights the void was something like I've never done before in my life.

Why is that? Because it was, you know, to differentiate the fighting style between the void and Bob was really difficult. And I was so lucky to have work with this stunt double Alec back, who was just so awesome in every way and such a good buddy. and was so along for the ride and so invested. And so we kind of had so many conversations about the body language of how we're going to differentiate. We wanted Bob to look like he was like an eight-year-old and, you know, on a playground. Like he has no experience, like how he throws these punches.

Right, right. And but then there's a wildness and there's a feralness to where it goes to. And then actually shooting that, you know, I had to shoot both sides of the fight. And then, and Alec, you know, was. standing in for the opposite side. And you don't just get to do one part of it the whole way through. You know, you have to do it a bunch of different ways, depending on what the setups are.

And keeping the choreography in your mind about whether I'm getting punched or punching is, it was like so disorienting. It was like it fried my brain. That was like due to the hardest days where I was just like. And then also going back and forth and between those different styles and the body language of, of them and keeping in mind who and changing. your clothes over, you know, a hundred times throughout the course of the day. And, and then all while, like, you know, all these incredible actors are, they're tied up and they're, you know, they're in the

room. And so wanting to be, and feeling that pressure of like, this, this has to work, you know. Yeah, because, well, I mean, that's, that's the thing is by the end of it, like, as I mentioned to you before, where it really is about them all coming together. That's the whole theme of it in order for them to even, and bringing this guy in because you don't know, you don't know what you, they're going to do with him because he could a lot of times in the moral movies the guy's corrupted by power it could have been a good guy but hey we had to defeat him and now on to the next movie but they welcome him in and they put they they they bring him in and i think it is really crucial and i'm glad that we can kind of go down this road now with it with like the relationship between

elena and bob it's it's everything i mean she she she is the whole reason to bring him in everything that she's going through and bringing that through so talk to me about a the relationship of the character work you had to do with both Bob and you laying it together, right? And ultimately what that's about. And then B, same kind of question I had before, I guess, with Stephen, but with Florence, had you met her before? What was it like kind of working this stuff out with her, you know, beforehand rehearsal, that type of stuff. I'm very curious about your relationship because of chemistry, it was there. Yeah, it was another one of those kind of like, art replicates life replicates art kind of instances where I hadn't met Florence before but immediately

like I mean she's younger than me but has such like this this ancient wisdom about her and this like this calm kind of thing that is like I immediately felt like very seen by her and kind of like in some was protected by her because she saw, I think, herself and me, you know, and remembered her experience probably stepping into the Marvel universe. And she, you know, without ever saying that, you know, was very obvious that she was like wanted to, wanted to make sure that, you know, that I felt welcome and I felt like a part of it. And so I think that that is probably a big part of the component of the Witches Brew that you maybe see on camera is like we we like found that commonality and that kind of simpatico thing like very early on and and we just like is she's so

fun to work with and is obviously like one of the best actors alive and but then also she's like one of one of the funnier people I've ever gotten the chance to work with and and so that really we were like having so much fun in between. in every take and like just goofing around around and just doing bits forever. And so like I think that we would go into that and go into like some of these scenes, which maybe that doesn't have the same kind of spiritual tone to it, but you can then feel that trust and that like comfortability, like kind of bleeding into the scenes that we were doing.

That makes all the sense in a world because where you're saying you're kind of warmed up. You feel it. Now it's going to now I feel comfortable. I can just had a couple laps, but now I got to get serious, but I feel comfortable around everybody now so I can get into it. opposed to do it we're working here to take it so serious you kids if you can there's sometimes you can't goof but there's sometimes that if you can i understand that a hundred percent you could see it and i'm curious was it the same type of thing with wyatt because you guys have to have

that thing up top and like do you decide like hey you know what let's be dicks to each other for a little bit um i'm glad to say there there was never any of that i mean i mean i i i Wyatt is such a sweet guy, and I think he's so, like, one of the, also one of the funnier people that, that, I think he's so funny in this movie and has such a, like, dry delivery and, like, crass and, and, like, throws everything away in this way that it, that is, that makes it look so easy, but it's actually, like, so difficult to do what he does so well. But, no, we were just, like, you know, talking about music and geeking out on, you know, our favorite music. And it was always like a very comfortable thing. And so that's, I guess, another way is that it felt it felt comfortable going to those places where it is really contentious and prickly because we felt like we trusted each other. I love that.

Makes a lot of sense. And speaking with Wyatt, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you this. So if you have, obviously, Kurt has been in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Is there any world now that you've done this? You're like, Dad, come on. You got to be in the MCU. You've got to get you in here. That would be amazing. I mean, I am I am constantly trying to find stuff to do with my pops.

Yeah. But, you know, when you are as accomplished and as like kind of versatile as he is, like, it's, it gets more and more specific. I think, you know, what kind of gets you, you know, on the saddle. Sure. And so like I think that if, you know, it was in a world like this where he could really kind of go to places that that are maybe uncomfortable and he hasn't explored, I think he would be game. And then throwing something towards you speaking like with legacy stuff, you know, there's been a lot of talk about a space ball's like sequel with Ariana Grande. If there was a that she was rumored for it, if they came to you and they're like, hey, we want you in this thing. Would you ever attempt to jump into space balls too? I mean, I would first of all have to talk to my dad. But also, I don't think I, it depends on what the character is.

I don't think I could play like a young lone star. I wouldn't want to step on that sacred ground of what he had built. But if it's a new character that, you know, I'm allowed to insert myself into, then I think, yeah, I would be, I mean, that's one of my favorite movies. I was like, I've watched that probably 300 times. So did you, and you were, so did you see that obviously? Because you're like, hey, my dad's in this, I'm going to check it out, or is it one of those things that people are talking about it?

It's a classic. It's like one of the best comedies of all times. Like how do you get like, because some people, so it's hard for some people like, hey, for actors, it's hard sometimes to watch themselves. Other times it's hard to watch their siblings or their parents or anything too. but I love that you said that because I was like, I was like, I hope he, I hope he's like, watched him before. Like the fact that it's one of your favorite movies is fantastic.

I mean, there was a period there where there was only so many of my dad's movies we were allowed to watch as kids. Because, you know, some of them were, we were not as kid friendly. Like, you know, we weren't like watching Lost Highway. Right, right. Right. Right. You know, but, and so that was one that was like, they were like, you know, my mom and dad were

like, yeah, you guys watched baseballs. And so that and just the world and the comedy of it was so, so brilliant. And so, and yeah, there was a stage where I was like, you know, where I was old enough. And I realized I was old enough to kind of like watch all these things. And I did a full, you know, marathon of all my dad's work. Yeah. Over the course of a couple months when I was getting into acting. And it was so illuminating to see somebody that you know so well be able to inhabit these characters, you know,

in such an indistinguishable kind of camouflaged way, like it just chameleonize himself to the point where his own son can't recognize him is really is like so inspiring. That's really great. That's a great perspective on that. And, you know, it's, yeah, it's very interesting to hear you say that because I know that you didn't, and please, correct from my wrong, but I feel like you got into acting much later in life.

Is that, is that accurate? Yeah. I mean, as a profession, I was, you know, doing things. you know, theater as a kid on and off. I did like, you know, theater group. But yeah, I didn't really get into it for real until after college. Right. Yeah, because like 2016, 2017 is where you really started to.

So, and is that, was that because was that something that you had a conversation with your family about? Is that something you just never, you're like, look, I just, like, I like doing it, but I don't know if I want to do it professionally. What at what point did it switch and go, no, no, I'm going full force now? I think it was a thing of like having such a friend. front row seat on kind of how inconsistent it can be. Sure. And how kind of, and how much of a profession that doesn't work and has no longevity

if you don't have a desire, hunger for it. If you can't not do it, you know, like it has to be a compulsory obsession if you want to, if you want to stick with it. And I think that was something I was made. very aware of, you know, with my pops. And so once it was clear that I was like, I can't, like, even if I can't do this as a profession, I still am going to want to, you know, do theater for, you know, a three-person crowd on my off time. Once I was clear that I was like, it's that much of a desperate, like, just need to do it. Then I was like, okay, now I think I,

And then it was very clear. But my parents were always very like, you know, didn't steer me in one direction or another. They were just kind of just kind of going through the obvious things that we all know as, you know, what it means to be an actor, an artist in this day and age. Yeah. And the fact that you can do it, obviously, like you say, you mature, you learn more about yourself as you're getting older, what you can do, what you can't do, what you want to work on. Like the idea of like the goals and the priorities really, right? Like sometimes when kids get into it and you. you start younger, you think you're doing it for one particular reason.

Then you realize, oh, I shouldn't have been doing it for that reason. But I was 12 years old. I was, yeah, I wanted everyone to see me. It's like, but it seems more so you're real. And you can tell in your work of what you're trying to do that you're, you really, it's more about, you don't seem like a guy that just wants, I want to be famous. You seem like you really actually want to be, you know, part of the craft. Yeah, I think that you want to, yeah, you have to really meditate on what it is that you want to say.

Yeah. You have something to say. Yeah. And clearly. this and like I mentioned you up top here, that's what I really enjoyed about Thunderbolts and how they were able to do that day. I like every movie, every movie to me has a message. The question is, does the message beat you over the head with it? Or does the message just, it's seamless because it's part of the storytelling and that's what this movie does.

Oh, that's so good to think. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. It really does, dude. And I know we only have a little bit of time here left. So I wanted to ask you about this post-credit scene, right? the one at the end there is now as I said we're talking spoilers and I know the only so much that you'll be able to say but certain things um it has come out now obviously that the russo's have

directed that scene and that it would and when did you guys shoot that like last week dude literally I think like three weeks feels like maybe three weeks before it came out wow okay three and a half or something yeah it was I was like holy cow this is and they put it together quick so what is and what does that like it's like should you just get the emails like here here your lines uh show up tomorrow for the for the for the for the scene yeah you get an email with like a password protected crazy code thing that you have to download some app for and you got there's like a hundred steps to finally get your eyeballs on that page yeah um but yeah and i was kind of like yeah it was a little i had never done like a post credit sequence um and uh let alone something that kind

of merges into uh another movie yeah and And so, yeah, it was like, it was cool to be able to step onto the Russo Brothers set and see how they operate. You know, they have such a specific way of doing it, which I've always been so curious to get a look behind the curtain. And it's like, did not disappoint. They have such a kind of masterful way of running a set. Yeah, and it seems like there's just so much now that they're moving everything towards, obviously, with doomsday and secret wars and everything that's happening. And I'm always curious when people get involved in it for like the first time, right? because as you said, just for this scene that comes in through your email,

the hoops you got to jump through. Do you ever get, because like you said, you're going through this different stage in your career right now. And you're, and you're, and you're, and you like comic book movies, and you like these types of things. So you want to be part of Marvel, but do you see this contract and they go, okay, well, how many movies you have to do now? You're locked in with it for a bit.

Does that ever get intimidating on this is a long time, potentially of my life? Or do you say, let's go? I say let's go. I mean, I think, yeah, especially with a character like this, there's so much to be mined, you know. And, you know, I got to meet Paul Jenkins who created Century the other night. And it was, I was geeking out with him. I was like, I got to give you my number. We got to stay in contact.

I was like, and he was so game and open. And he was such a spectacular dude. And so like, and I just looking in his eyes. I was like there is, I don't know if I, in my own lifetime enough time to really get to the bottom of this character and why Paul, you know, birthed him. And so I, I'm like really excited to keep, continue on with Bob and see where you get. Well, I love that you just said that. So you, so then, and obviously for not only because you wanted to, you want to pick the guy's brain and do you take, so the things that you'd start to talk to about him, how does, how does Doom fight this guy? How does Doom Fight Centric?

How does that even happen? What's he going to do? I mean, these are questions. I can't wait to, you know, I've got to fly out to Atlanta and really have a beer with Paul. Yeah, for sure. Look, again, Lewis, I can't thank you enough for joining me here today. Man, congratulations on the movie. It really is exciting to see what you guys are going to do.

The new Avengers coming in hot. Yeah, and thanks for all the great questions. Yeah, I appreciate you. And we'll see you really soon. I can't wait to see what you do next. Hell yeah. Appreciate you soon. brother's right all right guys so there you go louis pull that was pretty fantastic um as i said

i'm a big fan of the guy in general i think he's a good guy i think i like what he's doing i like what he's doing overall and i like his approach so the question is what do you guys think man you think we are uh we're going to be looking at doom versus century how they're going to how they're going to handle that overall uh thanks for joining me here today apple podcast spotify Anywhere podcasts are found on this special episode of the Christian Harlov show. We'll see you on the flip side, everybody. Bye-bye. Point Ray's Farmstead Cheese is helping you celebrate life's big moments with award-winning

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