The Kristian Harloff Show - Todd Philips defends Joker: Folie A Deux ending. "Nobody likes Arthur." Right? Wrong?

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Joker Folie a Deux has been one of the biggest misfires in movie history. The movie was supposed to be a huge hit. It was coming off a billion dollar opening for the first. The stars are shocked at it...s reception, execs are shocked. The director Todd Philips defends the ending which many says is to blame for the film being not received well due to negating the first film. Do you agree with his assessment? Martin Scorsese says he has no plans of retiring anytime soon. Tom Holland and Andrew Garfield appearances in Spiderman 4 might be significant roles. ild Robto sequel already in works? This and more on the live episode of The Kristian Harloff show with Kristian, Roxy and Mike! #marvel #mcu #spiderman #joker #joker2 #boxoffice #warnerbros #comments #drama  OUR SPONSORS BILT: http://www.joinbilt.com/BIGTHING AG1: http://www.DRINKag1.com/BIGTHING HELLO TUSHY: 10% off your first bidet order at http://www.HelloTUSHY.com with promo code BIG THING

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Starting point is 00:02:39 That's who they're blaming the most. And Todd Phillips, he's pushing back on a lot of different things. He's pushing back on the ending. People are saying the ending, that ending, it stinks. And he said, no, I'll tell you why. Nobody liked Arthur. My ending works. And here's why.
Starting point is 00:02:52 But then, like I said, a new report comes out and just Zazloff and everybody else is kind of roasting Phillips and say the guy wouldn't work with us. Game notes. Told us to go scratch our ass. So we'll discuss that and more. Lots of different things to discuss on the show today. It's myself, Roxy Stryor and Mike Kalinowski, the DC crew, is back together. Perfect to talk about this subject and more.
Starting point is 00:03:18 So let's do it. Cool. Christian Arloff Show. Great. Welcome back to the show, everybody. It is Tuesday. And I'm joined on the show today, as always, Roxy Stryer. Not as always, but sometimes on different days.
Starting point is 00:03:43 That's Mike Kalinowski. The crew is back. It is the three of us together. And now that everybody's playing the competition, last week, Roka won. But Roxy, I think you can do it this week. Roca yesterday started the day at 52. I think you can do 52. Wow, 52.
Starting point is 00:04:01 That's the amount of weeks in a year. Perfect. I'm awake. I'm alive. I'm here. I know how many weeks there are. Did you hear, did you get my text, and you didn't respond to it? So I assume that you did. You just didn't respond to it.
Starting point is 00:04:17 About Michael Emerson. Oh, I remember seeing this. You ran into him. So I was on, so. I remember I needed to ask you Bob because I didn't understand the question he asked you. So I went through a straight on debacle when I tried to get to the Saturday night screening, which I've talked about where I went. I went downtown.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I went too far. And then I was going back. And while I was going back, I was like, wait a minute. And that's Michael Emerson. So I looked at he was in the subway. So I said to him, I said, Michael, I said, I just interviewed you a couple weeks. He goes, I love that conversation. That was a very adult conversation.
Starting point is 00:04:49 He said that again. He kept saying that, which makes me think, like, who's interviewing him? I don't know. What kind of childish stuff is going on? I don't know, but he enjoyed the conversation. He likes talking to us. And then we just, we talked for a while, but then what he said was at the end, because he knew that you were a big loss fan.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And then I guess there was some kind of conference or some kind of big thing that was going on with the with loss and i don't know what i think he's talking about i wasn't invited to which i was devastating because our friends were invited there like was it sam levine i saw posting a bunch of stuff from there hector navarro maybe like there were different people that i was seeing on social media and it was a big like lost screening yeah yeah that's what it was um but i just don't understand like michael emerson knows i love lost and everybody knows i love lost so It didn't happen. Yeah, I don't know. But either way. That's cool that you bumped into him. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:05:44 He just said he had gotten a new gig. Remember he talking about he wasn't working the time he was taking a vacation? He just gotten a new job. So he was on his way to do that. So yeah, anyway, it was nice to see him. I see it. Nice to see you guys. And as I said, this is going to be a nice little competition between you and Roka today. And with Mike.
Starting point is 00:06:03 52's easy. That's nothing. You did that last time. I think you guys won last week, Mike. So the following. No, we won the week before. You know who hasn't won yet? You, right?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. You just say you're going to win, Roxy, watch this. Well, the thing is, if I win, they'll credit you for the win. And I'm okay with that. Doesn't matter. That's not how it works. No, as long as not. You started making the chocolate balls this year yet.
Starting point is 00:06:26 That's not the holidays, Rox. Come on now. Oh, that's all right to the holidays. Not until the holiday. You didn't give me any last year. I don't think I saw you last year. Yeah. Mike, did you see Joker?
Starting point is 00:06:37 I sure did. I saw it Thursday night, buddy boy. And? I'll say you this. I don't think it's a bad movie. It's a boring movie. It is so boring. But I know you'd said this.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I don't get the people that are saying the third act negates the whole first movie. Oh, really? No, not at all. Wow. Now, were you guys all expecting going in? We're going to spoil. We're going to spoil a couple things, I guess. It's been out of week.
Starting point is 00:07:03 No, no, no. But that's still, you still got to tell people that you got to spoil it. I want to ask you, though, on what you just said, do you think a boring movie is not a bad movie? But you don't think boring made something bad. Okay, like I'll use, and I don't think Dune was boring, but Dune, too. Beautiful shot. Slow and boring or, slow and boring are different. Yeah, like, yeah, three or four times I felt myself nodding off on Shannon's shoulder.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And I never do that in movies. Like, it just, like, it was just. But boring is not bad for you. You still think it's a good movie even though it was boring. Because I can appreciate the acting. Like to me, if the acting was bad and it was boring, then it's a bad movie. But like the acting was great. Cinematography was great.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Like you, my audience, when he said, there's a line either he or she says, like, I don't want to sing anymore. The audience, you felt the audience go, oh, thank God. Yeah. It just was like, I get what they were doing. And all these people like, oh, you're not smart enough to understand. Oh, no. He says it. I get it's the whole.
Starting point is 00:08:06 audiences, you know, fascination with spectacle and not mental health. I get that. It was just bad. Not bad. I'm sorry. Boring. I was like, eh. I think you think it was bad, but you don't want to say so, which is fine. I actually don't think that it was bad. What did you say actually don't think it was bad? I actually don't think that it was bad. I just didn't like the story. Yeah. But I didn't think that the story, I'm kind of with you, Mikey. Like, I didn't think that it negated the whole first two acts. I didn't think that's all. Or the first movie. Oh, I don't think it negated. I don't think it negated the first two acts. I think it negated the first movie 100%. Not at all. I don't think it negated anything. I thought it rehashed in a way that was unnecessary to watch again. I thought that it hit some of the
Starting point is 00:08:51 same beats. And then I thought that it didn't fully stick the landing and that the script was long and drawn out. But I'm with you, Mike. It's hard for me to call something a bad movie when I loved the performances. Yeah. It's a $200 million movie, so it obviously looks awesome. The cinematography is great. It sounds really good. I think it's really impressive what Gaga did with her voice in this character,
Starting point is 00:09:16 especially as a singer. She completely transformed her voice. It was different than anything we've heard her do. So all those things to me, it's like, how can we say because of one element, then it's bad? It wasn't for me. I wouldn't call this a bad movie either. So we're all the same page.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I actually agreed with Mike's point. where I think the acting was really good. I thought the music was great. The cinematographer was great. The director was great. And I agree with Roxy. I didn't like the story. I think that the story itself went,
Starting point is 00:09:43 and that's why I do think that it negated the first movie because at the end, if that scene at the end of the first movie wasn't there, where he kills the doctor and completely transcends into madness, and he has embraced this persona, that they don't even talk about that doctor. The doctor's never mentioned. The doctor has never mentioned.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And then real quick, so they negate that. And by negating that, then they go back. And they say, that never happened. And then they go back. And he's Arthur again. And so when he's Arthur, it's like, okay, so they did that whole thing. And the point was that he got to a place. He had a choice in the first movie to either deal with mental health,
Starting point is 00:10:21 but he had a choice to either go in one direction seeking help, offering himself or whatever he was doing, or transcend into this madman and take the stance of everybody else in a bad way, following him. And then when he come back to the next movie, he's a different, he's back to the same character he was. He's John Boyega and the Force Awakens all over here.
Starting point is 00:10:44 But that's what the point, Christian, don't you think that they were trying to show that like mental health and not being well is inconsistent? So it's not a linear path. Yeah, I think that I'm with you. Again at the end, we see like he goes from being like, no, I am full-blown this person. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I'm actually not the Joker. I think it's that tug and pull that we're supposed to feel for. Well, that's what he said you're not. He said you're not. And that's the article we're going to say in just a second. But everything you said, Roxy, I'm on board with if they didn't have that doctor scene. If that doctor scene from the first movie wasn't in there. And then they acknowledged, they didn't even acknowledge it.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I'm trying to remember this first movie at the end. I don't even, yeah, I'm not sure what you're talking. He kills a doctor at the end. end of the first movie. He kills the doctor. He's running around. In this, when they're talking about his body count and who he killed? No, never, never addressed. That doctor is not addressed. I thought it ends with him being driven away in the cop car. Nope. Kills a doctor at the end of the movie. That's why I'm telling you, watch that scene and you might be looking at it different because that's the scene I only seen it twice. So that's that scene. Doesn't he say, don't they say you
Starting point is 00:11:51 killed five people? Yeah, and then five people, including my mother and five, one of them? Nope, it would be seven because you get the three on the three on the train. You get the, the, you get Murray and you get the the worker so it's a she's a five a total total total and then the mother right so that's a total of I got to watch it again maybe never mentioned so yeah I'm not sure what you're talking about but yeah that's that's why to me they didn't even bring that up and they didn't even have a conversation about that at all but in either way there's more to it in the ending, though, I don't know what you felt about the ending.
Starting point is 00:12:30 To me, what lost me was, I thought the ending stunk. I thought the ending stunk. I thought the idea that he was, once again, even if you're going to rehash it, you rehash he goes back to being the Joker, and then he realizes, no, I don't want to be the Joker anymore. And then Harley only liked him for surface level stuff. And then she leaves him. The whole true love aspect wasn't really there.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And then he goes and he gets killed by, I guess, the real Joker. Stupid. So this is where we have a conversation with Todd Phillips, who says this. And Todd Phillips, the Joker 2 director defends Folly a doo-doo, saying nobody cares about Arthur. You're such a brat sometimes. No, I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it.
Starting point is 00:13:18 What? No, you don't want me, no, you don't want me say stuff like this. Okay, fine. Good. Keep it, keep it under a good. I'll text you it. 100% he's about to say that you sound like Trump. I don't know why he's not to say.
Starting point is 00:13:29 No, okay, now you said, Rocky, you're like the guy, you're like people when they talk about it. Don't encourage. Just leave it, leave it alone. I don't know where you're going. Leave it alone. All right. I'm a text, you. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:13:38 A doo-do, go ahead. Okay. Sorry, I interrupted. All right. Thank you. Thank you. I'll be serious. Warning, this article contains Joker Folly a do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Spoilers. I just hope that my death makes more sense than my life. Arthur Fleck writes in his journal in 2019's Joker, a self-described mentally ill loner who works as a clown while pursuing his career in stand-up comedy. Arthur's Joker inadvertently inspires a movement after he murders three Wayne employees on the subway. If it was me dying on the sidewalk, you'd walk right over me. I pass you every day and you don't notice me. Joker complaints just before shooting and killing late night. Her host, Murray Franklin on television, sparking a riot that culminates in the death of Martha and Thomas Wayne in the streets of Gotham City.
Starting point is 00:14:19 By the end of the first film, Arthur reveals rebels in the anarchy and destruction carried out by the masked mob of clowns who embrace Joker as a symbol for those who have been ignored by the system. And Joker 2, that includes Arthur's fellow Archimpatient Harley Lee Quinzel, who institutionalizes herself to become Joker's clown princess of mostly fantasized crime. But during
Starting point is 00:14:39 his televised trial, prosecuted by Gotham Assistant District Attorney Harvey Dent, played by a 14-year-old, in which Joker, in full clown makeup, represents himself after dismissing his well-meaning defense lawyer, Catherine Keener, who was great. The clown confesses after a stirring testimony
Starting point is 00:14:55 by his one-time friend and co-worker Gary Puddles. The Puddle scene was awesome, by the way. There is no split personality. There's no joke or just Arthur. Disillusion. We go through the whole thing. He realized that he's so corrupt it's never going to change, and the only way to fix it is to burn it all down. Director Todd Phillips explained to Entertainment Weekly. When those guards kill that kid in the hospital,
Starting point is 00:15:14 he realizes that dressing up and makeup, putting up this thing, it's not changing anything. In some way, he's accepted the fact he's always been Arthur Fleck. He's always been this thing that's been put upon him, this idea that Gotham people put on him that he represents he's an unwilling icon this thing was placed on him and he doesn't want to live as a fake anymore he wants to be who he is and who he wants to be as Arthur Fleck now I understand the idea but this is where it goes back to what I was saying beforehand I think everything that was set up in the first one didn't allow
Starting point is 00:15:43 these changes to work but you guys feel differently roxy no I'm not even saying I feel differently I just don't even know what you are referring to yeah with that one see I don't know. Like, for me, people are so intense about this right now. Like, it's the worst movie ever. It has the worst rotten tomatoes for of everything. And I hate it and it sucks. I just think that everybody is so OD all the time.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And it's like, okay, so you didn't like the movie. You know, like, we don't have to be so entitled to the society to be like, I didn't like the movie you ruined my life. Like, it's like, okay, I didn't like this story. I actually enjoyed my viewing experience. I went to the movie. theater. I sat and ate popcorn. I listened to some people didn't like the music. I happened to love the music. So I listened to music I liked like a little bit of a concert. Some of the story
Starting point is 00:16:34 did work for me like the like you just talked about the Gary stuff was really heartbreaking. When he says you were the only person who was ever nice to me. Do you know that what that does to me? That was I thought just a beautiful sentiment and this is how people feel when somebody is a horrible human. We're watching this in society all the time. But they were kind to. you and then you feel like something's wrong with you so there were moments um and i just am like okay so the the whole story didn't work for me okay perfect mike when the camera goes on you it means you can talk whenever you want well i always wait for you to throw it to me but okay anyway i digress all right that everything he said that's a great story if it was in the movie right
Starting point is 00:17:18 it wasn't written we didn't see any of that and if you want us to infer to that like okay like i love the puddle scene, but I loved it for the wrong reasons. I was crying, laughing at Foghorn, Leghorn, and that core. Well, you do, your name is Mr. Puddles. I was crying. And I don't think that's the reaction that they wanted from me. Like, I love
Starting point is 00:17:40 that scene, but not for the right reasons. That's such a, that's such a mic scene. It really is. Shannon leaves over to me, she goes, Jesus, Chris, I'm going to have to listen to this voice for the next five months. I'll, I do declare, you will. It was so true. It was like,
Starting point is 00:17:55 Like, yeah, everything he said, that's fantastic. That's a great story if we saw it on the screen and we didn't. And whether that was lost in translation from the original writing idea to what was filmed or the editing. But like, I don't know, man. I just thought it was boring. Yeah. I mean, we have heard a lot of behind the scenes stuff about this. I don't know what's true and what's not because I did not work on the set.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And I actually don't know anybody personally who did work on this set. But we have heard that, um, or I have heard, I don't know if you guys have heard, that Joaquin Phoenix would come to set and that he would take pages and scrap them and make up what he wanted to make up for the day. I'm in Lady Gaga, apparently. That was rumored, but will Roxy hold that, though,
Starting point is 00:18:37 because that kind of plays into this next part of the story, and we can include that. And that right now, Todd Phillips is the one. And when you have a big bomb like this, you know, and something that's supposed to be doing really well, fingers are going to get pointed and heads are going to roll. And right now, Todd Phillips is being the one that they're blaming for the $300 million joker Folly a doo-do bombing.
Starting point is 00:18:59 You have to stop calling it that. I can't take you seriously. Like, you are, you have a massive, massive show, Christian. You are like a huge person in the industry who reports on entertainment news. You refuse to call him anything but Zoloft and Doodoo. Like you have to say, like we can't be do-doing. All right, fine, fine, fine. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So, Joaquin, Phoenix's dreams were blamed earlier, Now is Todd Phillips turn to take some accountability for Joker Folly a D.D.D.U. Folly Failing, new report reveals his disdain for D.C. Love or hate, Joker, Folly, a Dadoo. There's simply no getting around the fact that it's an embarrassing misfire for Warner Brothers' discovery. A critical and commercial flop. Now we've reached a point where fingers are being pointed in Variety's latest piece. They're aimed squarely at filmmaker Todd Phillips and very much away from DC Studios.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Nothing. That both James Gunn and Peter Saffron were absent from the Joker's sequel's premiere. It said a dysfunctional dynamic between the scenes saw Phillips Society wanted nothing to do with D.C. during production. That allowed him to make the movie that he wanted without bringing up the comics or attempting to intervene. In the first movie was about some down-in-his-luck, mentally ill guy in a downtrodden city. It makes maybe 150 worldwide, not a billion. One insider tells the trade, people shut up because that guy was Joker. While a D.C. spokesperson claims Gunn was busy working on Peacemaker, and that Saffron had bronchitis during the premiere, Phillips refused to take notes from the duo and would instead only liaise with Warner Brothers Michael DeLuca and Pamela Abdi. Gun and Saffron were on hand
Starting point is 00:20:35 for the director's cut screening for the studio, but it appears their notes were ignored. So was Warner Brothers for that matter, CEO David Zoloff tried to push Phillips to make the sequel for less money in London. But the filmmaker wouldn't budge on Los Angeles. As a result, the budget ballooned to $200 million before a $100 million marketing spend, which takes those costs up to $300 million. Fokker Jolly a Doodoo needs to earn $450 million to break even. A Warner Brother spokesperson denies any friction and claims the studio doesn't want to debut the movie at Venice Film Festival.
Starting point is 00:21:10 The trade is Adam and Phillips didn't want test screenings, and his rejection of the DC fan base has only served to alienate the fans to see the 2019 Joker multiple times. no one could get through to Tot a source directly involved with the movie tells the trade and the one thing about genre stuff, if you don't listen and pay attention to what the fan expectations are, you're going to fail. As things stand, Joker, Folly Adieu
Starting point is 00:21:32 will be the year's biggest failure. It's not something we ever saw coming, but if Phillips had the attitude detailed here, it's not surprising. Drama! That's fascinating. Do you guys remember after the first one? And, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:49 I couldn't remember. You know, I was getting ready to see the film. I cannot believe that film was in 2019. I know. That was mind-boggling to me. I thought it was like 2022. Yeah, no. Holy crap. But then I remember that during that time, they were talk of him running DC. I think they offered it to him. Yeah, it was after the Joker. Soloff wanted him. Yeah, he wanted him for, for to run the whole DC. He was like he won. Yeah. He's not saying that. Can you imagine? Holy crap. lose their minds right now. Oh, my God. But it's telling the, look, I will tell you that from this particular thing, I believe this, because he didn't want to.
Starting point is 00:22:28 The, the fact, yeah, but I guess the fact that he didn't want to be, he didn't want any notes from, from Gunn and Safran, because Gunn also posted something the other day about how important test screenings were and all those things. And Phillips, I don't think wanted test screenings at all. I think that he didn't want to deal with the D.C. side of it. And he's like, well, maybe you should do this. And Phillips, like, no, I'm going to do my own thing. This is way before you were here.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Don't worry about a kid. I made a billion dollars or whatever it was. I mean, it's not, I don't, I don't want to say I disagree with him. But this was, this was back before there was even going to be a reboot, like his Joker stuff. It wasn't like done in Reeves right now where they're kind of working hand in hand, taking notes. You're still separate, but we're still going to kind of work together. Like this was a whole other regime change. So I kind of see like, hey, this is my thing.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I made a billion, but it goes to show that just when you do that, you don't get a blank check. Right. And it's like someone saying in the comments, whether they did it and I lose credibility, you're saying, do-do, you're watching the wrong show. You're watching the wrong show. Go watch Campia. Watch anybody you want. I am going to be an adult.
Starting point is 00:23:39 No, of course. I know you, but here, they're right. I should be an adult. Hey, Andy, take this. Be an adult. Shove it up your ass. Sometimes my theory is if you didn't have like a ridiculously hot life and beautiful children that you would have become an in-cell, but we'll never know. Mr. Doodoo.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Is that? Okay. Watch this. Watch this. It's easy to do. All right. Let me get my two-shut. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:24:06 I'm putting the two-shot on. Oh, my God. I don't know where the two-shot. What happens when I. Oh, it got you again. Oh, I get rid of me. Not you got lost you. Real nice.
Starting point is 00:24:17 anyway so where is oh good she's gone again no she's back look at this clown he doesn't know what the hell he's what happened you try to get rid of me she's you know you just like a fly it you just keep coming back just like a like a leech yep leach like a like a fun guy um growing somebody asked as far as just to so people if they're brand new to the channel someone said do we answer the sewer jets that are sent in yes after the main topics are done for the second hour of the show we we answer your questions oh yeah question how are we doing what's our count right now you're you're 22 rocks. Oh, we're killing it rocks. We're going to kill it. Watch. 22's really good.
Starting point is 00:24:52 But there's way more weeks in the year than that, and then we have to get even further. Yeah, we're going to see. How about how many minutes there are in an hour? Let's start there. Okay. Well, let's do this first. Let's talk about
Starting point is 00:25:06 the fact that I think that he made a billion dollars with his movie. He made a billion dollars. And he said, you know what? I don't need that. I know what I want to do. I know the movie I want to make. You guys kept knocking on my door to make this movie. And so Joaquin and I are going to do it. We'll take our notes from the execs we worked with.
Starting point is 00:25:23 We're happy with that. Beat it, Saffron and Gun. We don't need your notes. This isn't a comic book movie. This is the thing that's what made it so special the first time. We're going to make the movie we want to make. And I think that Gun and Safron, whoever made the note is 100% right. You've got to screen it. You've got to see what people
Starting point is 00:25:38 are saying about it. You just go in flying. I think putting it at the Venice Film Festival was a major, major mistake. And screening it to fans was also a major mistake. It backfired this time. I think that it reminds me, do you guys ever watch Sons of Anarchy? No, I wish.
Starting point is 00:25:57 No. So the stories behind that was like Kurt Sutter made Sons of Anarchy. It was a massive hit. And then every season that it was more of a hit, FX gave him more and more leeway. So he started doing episodes that instead of being 60 minutes, they were like an hour, 12 minutes, an hour, 25 minutes. Like he just started making them longer and longer and putting himself in a lot of them and like figuring out what he wanted to do and and they wouldn't give him any notes because he was like the it boy over there.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And it's one of my like absolute least favorite finalies of all time, even though I love that show. But this does happen with creators all of the time when you create something that people love and then you get all of the power and then you create something that people don't love. Right. Now, I think what he does next will be really interesting because is he going to double down and say like, no, because we've seen him say, no, this was great. Is he going to double down on his next project and be like, I really still don't want any notes? Or is he going to be inviting to that now? Where does he go from here? I still think he's a pretty brilliant filmmaker. Just with the storytelling, I hope that there's some checks and balances implemented. What do you think, Mike? Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:15 He's such a, like, to me, the fact that he does, does, like, the hangover and then does this, like, that to me, that's talent. But, yeah, maybe a little ego was involved in this one and it didn't work, like, or, or, like, Harlow, we talked last episode, man, if this thing was $70 million, there's, they're fine. Yeah, then they're, I mean, and, well, you spent, okay, watching the movie, yeah, it looked great, but still, where's two million dollars? He just, they just told you. The fact that he refused to get out of Los Angeles and shoot somewhere else, he just, that's partially, that's part of it, taking reshoots and doing things and decided letting Joaquin said, that looked like New York to me that film. Well, they did, and that was, Mike, but I'm so glad you brought that up because there's a debate
Starting point is 00:27:55 going on in the comment. I can't pretend that I know about this stuff in the way that you do, okay? They refer to it as Gotham sometimes and they refer to it as New York sometimes. In the comment, yeah. In the movie? In the movie? They called New York? Yes, like two different times. They call it New York.
Starting point is 00:28:12 What did they say, Christian? You remember? There was a couple of different times. And now, are they saying that Gotham is in the state of New York? I had never ever heard that Gotham was in New York ever. In fictional, the world of D.C., it's between Jersey and New York. And Gotham is not a nickname for New York City in, no. No. It's like a city of itself in between Jersey and New York.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yeah, Gotham's in real life. In real life, they call New York Gotham times. But in Gotham in the comic books have never been a nickname for New York. No. Yeah. So I can't believe I didn't notice that. So I didn't either. So one character, Christian, twice in the movie, somebody said, we are in New York.
Starting point is 00:28:53 State in New York. I think it's during the trial. They like the state of New York or something along those lines. And they bring up New York a few different times, at least twice. At least twice. I think it's a city in the state of New York. Yeah. I could be wrong, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I mean, that sounds exactly like what it is if it's in the corner. I think there was two. There was someone says it was a news reporter brought up New York and then there was in the trial. So, and I, okay, so because I, someone said that it's always been that, that it was a part of New York. I never knew that. I never knew that that was the case. But then again, maybe that was one of the notes that Saffron and is that Saffron and the gun? We're like, no, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:29:31 That's not. And he's like, I'm going to listen to this. It doesn't matter. That could be. Yeah. Because I think that Todd Phillips would probably go into. the movie like this. This movie, because remember it was tracking at one point
Starting point is 00:29:41 at $150 million for its opening weekend. So he was probably on one of those people going to, this movie's going to crush, I'm going to do good. I knew what I did last time. It's going to do a big opening. I don't need their, I don't need them. And then whatever, I don't care if it's D.C. or not, I don't care with the fans.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I'm going to make a lot of money. I'm going to go and do my next project. I'm not doing any more D.C. stuff. And he is the only one right now that I think could take a hit from this. I don't think it's Gaga's not going to take a hit. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I don't think Gogh, but it's, no one goes to our concerts anymore. He did not like that movie. Right. Right. It's why he's not going to take a head. He kind of scrapes by. Yeah, he's not going to take a head from them
Starting point is 00:30:21 because he's good in the movie. But then, but then like the last movie, he drops out two days before filming. Right. That went away fast. By the way. That went away fast. This movie, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:31 how is he like kind of Teflon Dana in here? Because he's, because he's an amazing talent. And it's amazing how forgiving we are of amazing talent. I agree that he's an amazing actor, but that doesn't buy shit with me. Whether you agree. Here's the best thing. Whether you agree with it.
Starting point is 00:30:47 About Marlon Brando. I know. Don't watch his interview. Well, wait, but that's two different things, though, also. But even Marlon Brando, even Marlon Brando, who is very different from the reports because I've seen that interview. But very different. But even Marlon Brando got a pass for everything.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And I don't think Roxy and I are saying, yeah, well, they should. Whether you agree with it or not, it doesn't take away from the fact that we're very forgiving of, look at celebrity in general, right, Rox? 100%. 100%. I mean, like, whether if you were the executive, you would work with somebody or not, we've seen it time and time again. It's almost like they're rewarded. And he is so, so good. He's so good.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Just ridiculously good. That doesn't mean that somebody's super easy to work with couldn't be as good, but that's, not how we operate as a society. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if this will touch him at all. I kind of doubt it touches Gaga. But I do think right now at the executive level,
Starting point is 00:31:46 that is why they are pointing so many fingers, because it's not just Todd Phelps who could be on the line with fans right now. A lot of people kind of jump in and out of what they're paying attention to or not. They think of this maybe as the start of the new regime when it's not really that. that. So maybe there are some casuals who are thinking, is this gun? Is this saffron? Is this? I saw a bunch of...
Starting point is 00:32:10 DC's off to a great start. I'm like, shut the fuck. It has nothing to do with it. Yeah, this is something... It has nothing to do with it, of course. Superman is the very first... No, you're right, Roxy, but it's still perception if you don't know what the hell's going on. And it's the perception of it. And I think that's why Gunn's been doing those little side tweets
Starting point is 00:32:26 about the test screening stuff. And I think that that's why this news is coming out. I think he's aware. Normally, and maybe he did, and I just, I'm not aware of it, but normally, if there's something that comes out about him that's not true, he'll tweet back out and say, no, that's not true. Yeah. I haven't seen that.
Starting point is 00:32:40 That is true, Christian. There's kind of an weird trajectory on this movie, too, which I don't know, maybe you guys know better than I do. When we saw this come out at, what was it, Venice? Is that where was the first place? Joe. Yeah, it was Venice. And some of the critics' screenings, it seemed very mixed, right?
Starting point is 00:32:57 And on Rotten Tomatoes right after that, I think it was in the low 60s. And then the next screening, next film festival happened or whatever it was. And still we kept hearing, people are mixed, you know. Some people are loving it. Some people are not. Right, right. And it was still kind of in the 50s hovering. And then once the critic screenings happened that Christian, you went to, I went to,
Starting point is 00:33:19 they, it dropped immediately to the 30s. Well, you know, but Roxy, but Roxy, even before that. See, this is normally what they, and you and I have discussed this on the show, that Warner Brothers specifically has started to invite influencers and fans first, before screen. It was always critics first, fans and everything afterwards. Now they've been doing fans first, and they did it for Beetlejuice, and it worked. They did it this time, and it backfired, because the fans are on the same page as the critics.
Starting point is 00:33:50 They weren't on the same page for Beetlejuice. They were on the same page for this one. But why were we at first hearing mixed and now we are not really hearing mixed? Less people. But you really think the first people who saw it, maybe because of the environment they saw it in, do you really think some people were like, I love this movie? I didn't see a lot of love. I saw like, did you see a lot of love from it?
Starting point is 00:34:13 Well, it just kept hearing mixed and now I'm not hearing mixed. Right, right. I don't know. Either way, the finger is pointed at Todd Phillips. and I think like, look, this is, and as Roka and I mentioned on the show yesterday, this is a, what have you done for me lately, town. He has made a billion dollars for a movie. He's made the hangover franchise.
Starting point is 00:34:33 He's made a lot of money for that studio, and he'll continue to make money for people, but he's not very good at sequels. I'll tell you that. And Hangover, too, stinks. Does the Hangover two not good? I think I like it. Stinks.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Is it really good to Thailand? I think that's a second. No, that's the third one, right? Two and three. Three is better than a second. I can't remember what two is then. I think two was Thailand, but two stinks. Stinks. Really?
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Starting point is 00:37:52 don't listen to me they should listen to you i'll say this though what samovine has to give him a compliment just let me give them the compliment let me give them a compliment first mike i already give me a compliment no i was going to give christian a compliment oh go ahead right and i already insulted him today and now i have to compliment that was a bad that was a bad one i let you get away with that one i thought it was a good one it was mean i thought it was a really good one it wasn't mean i told you have a ridiculously hot wife and a beautiful family you mean you keep saying do-do so what so do-do's funny but i'm not thinking you're not in your basement somewhere i just child yeah so yeah i am the comment is that you very carefully curate the people who you let on the show as sponsors so they
Starting point is 00:38:39 should listen to you because you don't just let everybody and every every company that you work with this company you really care about. You're not just like going after the random. So that is why I listen to you. Yes, thank you, Rockton. I hope that people in the comments will go and they will check that out because it helps to show out and you get yourself something wonderful. Okay, so someone's name that I will always get correct is Martin Scraise. Legend, absolute legend. He says he's got no intention of retiring. He might be 81 years old, a legendary filmmaker Martin Scraise seems to be following the path of Ridley Scott
Starting point is 00:39:16 and Paul Schrader. He's going to keep filmmaking until he's dead, are no longer physically able. The fame director who was most recently helmed Killers of the Flower Moon appeared at a press conference in the Cinema Museum in Torino, Italy, to accept the Premio de la Mole Award, essentially a career achievement award
Starting point is 00:39:32 this week. During his discussion with media, he said quite clearly, he's going to keep working, and any recent talk of delays due to health is incorrect. I have no intention of retiring. The film about Frank Sinatra is only postponed while the one about Jesus I am working on. I hope God gives me the strength and money to finish them. Scors says he has multiple films on his docket, including his Jesus film, a Sinatra biopic, a Teddy Roosevelt movie, and adaptations of David Grant's Shipwrecked novel The Wager and Marilynne's, and Marilynne's also producing gangs of New York TV series. Busy man, he's way busier than us and he's way older. What is his actual age?
Starting point is 00:40:08 I think they said he's 80. Hold on me. What did I say to say the beginning there? 81. 81. Yeah. And that's, I mean, it's good for him. Look, I think they're right though. The new 60. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Well, I think that it's true, though. I think he, this is what he was born to do. And I think in his mind, he's like, I'd rather just drop dead on a film set if I was going to him 100 years old. 100%. This is Betty White behavior. And I love to see it. Love it. It is what I hope to do.
Starting point is 00:40:36 You guys know I'm, like, obsessed with working. I can't ever picture a day where I want to retire. all I want to do is work all of the time. If that is your dream and that is what you love, then I hope you get to, I hope you get to go on a film set one day. I hope you work till you drop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:51 If that's what you want. It's the truth. Mike, you think you should retire or no? No. Look at Eastwood. Well, Eastwood's probably, I think he's a 90-something. Is he a 92, right?
Starting point is 00:41:03 I don't think East was going to be doing more stuff lately, but he's been doing. You only tend to a certain point. Yeah, it's true. There'll be a point where Scorsese is you can't do it anymore. I know. It's absolutely true. I think that there's, um, he's, look, he's still making good movie. I like Killers of the Farmer. I don't know what you guys all about me. I mean, people loved that movie. It was, it was lengthy. Lengthy, really, but I watched it, uh, similar to
Starting point is 00:41:27 what Mikey does with some of his shows recently. I watched this in multiple settings. I was like, all right, I'm going to do a little four-day watch along to this, but I like to do. You want your you want to be invested. You want to give it your full attention. You don't want to be half kind of dozing off. Yeah. Well, apparently, so what they said in the comments is that Eastwood is 93. Juror number two is his last film is what they said.
Starting point is 00:41:50 So you're, I mean, that looks good. Yeah. So he's doing. When is that? Is it this year? I think it's, it's October, November. Okay. Makes sense.
Starting point is 00:41:57 November maybe. October right now. That's crazy. Which is nuts. And it's getting, it's starting to get a little chilly here. It is so wild that there are so many movies that come out now that East. that Eastwood has a movie coming out that I and I don't know when it is. I remember growing up.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I don't know. I could be wrong. But that's crazy. Like I remember. November. It's November. Okay. There was like 10 movies.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I know when they all were going to be. No, it's true. No, it's like, I have no idea. There's just so much stuff. Well,
Starting point is 00:42:24 one of those movies that we don't know because we hear rumors about a Spider-Man 4. And they keep saying, when is Spider-Man 4? There's a new rumor here, new details on Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield, Tom Holland, Holland all in Venom 3 and more.
Starting point is 00:42:37 That's definitely, wrote, read that wrong. Spider-Man 4, rumor, new details on Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield, and then Tom Holland and Venom 3 and more. Tom Holland's in Venom 3? Tom Holland is. I don't know who is. Is he?
Starting point is 00:42:49 No, forget it. Never mind. It doesn't matter. That you just said. No. It's not what I said. Wait, I did say that. You did?
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yes, and that's what it says. You're right. Jesus Christ. Shut your mouth. You pull it. Oh. And now. He's gaslighting.
Starting point is 00:43:06 That's right. That's right. There's a lot of intrigues surrounding Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures plans for Spider-Man 4, and the Cosmic Circus has shared a few interesting tidbits. The biggest... I knew a dog named tidbit. The biggest relates... Really?
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah. The biggest relates to plans for Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield's respective web slingers. According to Alex Perez, there's a very strong possibility that they showed up for an extended role this time around, meaning we'd see a lot more of them in Spider-Man-4. As for, Tom Hollins, Peter Part. Parker, he will get the symbiote suit in the next few years and may keep it for the next couple of Spidey films. That makes sense with Avengers Secret Wars Fast approaching, though all signs point to him getting the alien costume when he crosses past with Tom Hardy's Venom in his next solo outing.
Starting point is 00:43:50 However, despite a team-up being planned for the Spider-Man No Way home sequel, Perez confirms Holland doesn't appear in Venom the Last Dance, including in any mid- or post-credit seats. He also claims that with each passing day, Spider-Man 4 becomes more and more multiversal than street-level. hate that so much. At this point, I dare say it's leaning slightly cosmic than street. Way to go, Sony. With that, the door appears to have closed on a team up with Daredevil.
Starting point is 00:44:14 For now, at least. Answering other reader questions, Perez, says Black Cat will not appear in the movie, reveals that Noel wields all black sword appearing what we saw on Thor, love, and thunder, and that the Spider-Man and Venom will likely battling more symbiots. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily say
Starting point is 00:44:30 that I'm the face of the universe, Holland said in 2021, when we mentioned that Joe Rousseau said he thinks the actor Spider-Man has taken over from Robert Downey Jr. and Iron Man is the soul of the Marvel Universe. What I know, the fans are really supportive and have responded massively to this franchise. I'm honored that Joe
Starting point is 00:44:46 thinks that, but the beautiful thing about the MCU is whoever's the leader, if there is ever a leader again, you're never alone. Yada, yada, yeah. I still stand. I'm glad Toby and Andrew are going to be back again, but I'd rather than be back in a movie together for Sony doing their own thing.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Let's say, Sam Ramey is also directing another Dr. Strange, Bo, would rather do a Toby McGuire, Spider-Man 4. That would be a lot better. And then they have this. They're just making a big multiverse mess again. And when they could, they had the opportunity that street level dared. What Marvel and MCU wanted to do. But Sony's pushing it because they think it's going to get that billion dollars again.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Studio meddling, studio meddling. Roxy, do you feel differently? or are you on the same page? I have to tell you that I had a hard time understanding what that article is trying to say. Okay. I know it doesn't bode well for me, considering the chat,
Starting point is 00:45:44 like, Raxi doesn't understand anything ever. Rock is stupid. You're reading the chat? Maybe I am, y'all. No, I'm saying in general, I have no idea if they're saying that. Why did they say that today? No, I didn't see that.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Oh, I'm just saying, you know, like when I'm like, I don't get it, they're like, of course you don't. You vagina have her. but for this specifically I'm on one today and I love it. I have the best energy today. Oh, you like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:46:11 And very, very humble. Yeah, I am very humble. Very, very humble queen. For this specifically, I think you had a hard time getting through the headline because they were trying to put a lot of stuff in there, but do you understand what exactly they're trying to tell us from here? Like, it's really just...
Starting point is 00:46:28 I think there's the fact that he's going to get the suit from Tom Hardy at one point and cross-over. and then it's going to be they're really going to focus a lot on venom and they're going to focus in on you know this the more like otherworldly multiverse big and grand as opposed to trying to they didn't say it's not street level at all they said I would say it leans a little more than a little more what did they call it intergalactic interdimensional whatever they said then street level I don't have the articles because you don't send it to me but you know what I'm talking about yeah I do but I did said something about street the street level said it's going to be way they said it said a little bit it said a little bit it said a little bit of looks like they're going away. Leaning more. Leaning away from the street level and probably not going to have the daredevil team up, which is what everybody
Starting point is 00:47:13 kind of wanted to see and was hoping for because they teased that in no way home. But Mike, do you hear this? Do you, does any of this? Do you like it, dislike? Because I think you were on the same page as me. You'd rather see it more like a street level. Okay, so Tom Holland's going to get the suit from Hardy.
Starting point is 00:47:29 We just had three friggin' movies of a symbiate venom, taking over someone's body. So now we're going to have Tom Holland doing the same friggin thing. Get the well, like that's why Spider-Man gets the suit first because then it shows how different it is when it gets on Eddie Brock. That's the point of the
Starting point is 00:47:45 damn suit. Right. And the storyline. Like, so we're going to go through rehashing of him. What is this suit doing to me? Am I bad? What is going on now? The only thing is done. Get rid of venom. Yeah, it is. I'm Hardy's venom. You fucked it up by giving it a venom hero movie first.
Starting point is 00:48:01 You can't redo it and go, oh, it's a symbiate that we don't know anything about we've never seen before. Because we know it now, right? But you know exactly what it is. So when Spider-Man swinging around New York with the black suit, it was going to be like, hey, it's like that venom dude. Right, right. The only thing... Spider-Man? One thing that I did leave out, Roxy, that I think
Starting point is 00:48:17 that does leave... Remember, though, what they said a couple of weeks ago was that it looked like Tom Hardy signed like this bigger deal where he's going to be around for a lot longer than we thought. And then there was this line that I actually missed in the story, and that was... It also sounds like Marvel Studios is trying
Starting point is 00:48:33 to get Spider-Man a cameo in Deer Devil Born Against Season 2, perhaps to set the stage for a non-multiversal Spider-Man 5. So, to play devil's advocate, if the meetings between Rothman and Fagie, we're like, okay, look, Figege's like, we want the street level. He's like, well, do we have to do the street level now?
Starting point is 00:48:52 If we get Holland back, can we compromise? And then you put him in season two at Deer Devil, build it up, and then the fifth movie could be street level? How would you want to see it? him in Daredevil born again in what capacity. I got to see season one or I guess whatever it is season four. I got to see it how they're going to play that and how that's going to work before I can for I can judge it.
Starting point is 00:49:16 But tiny, right? Tiny, yeah, enough to just show them together kind of working together and then say we're setting this up for, you know, Spider-Man 5. But that's to say Spider-Man 4 is going to be good. no way home with the spell. Was it everyone
Starting point is 00:49:36 forgot that Peter Parker was Spider-Man? Was that the spell? Yeah, that was again. Yeah. People they don't remember who Peter Parker's right.
Starting point is 00:49:46 They don't remember Peter Parker is, yeah. So then why would he meet Matt Murdoch? Because Matt Murdoch wouldn't know that he's Spider-Man anymore. He met him because he knew
Starting point is 00:49:53 he was his lawyer and needed to help him. So is he going to show up like, hey, remember me? You help me in my case. Yeah, I don't know how they're going to
Starting point is 00:49:59 play that. I don't remember. I can't even see you. Who are you? They're probably going to spin it around and people are going to run. Fuck off. I know. It's probably going to be some kind of... You establish the fucking rules. Live by you.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Easy, easy, easy. No, this is the show I can do it on. Oh, it is? Okay. No, I'm like... They want it goes in the comics. Spidey and Daredevil are so great together. Well, that's the MCU. You're avoiding the comics. Do new things. Holy crap, man.
Starting point is 00:50:24 But they, if they know who's Spider-Man is, can't he go to them as Spider-Man and not as Peter Parker? That's true. You could show up. You could show up in the So anyway. You guys are so funny today, too. Thanks, Fra. I just am so over this multiverse.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Mike is pissed over something that has not happened. It didn't happen yet. We don't even know if it's going to happen. Here's the thing, Rocks. Did you just meet him? This is what everyone wants. I know. We want Derrida, we want Bernthal.
Starting point is 00:50:51 We want this. So we finally get them. They're doing it. They even scrapped the entire show that they were going to do. They brought back the, they brought back foggy and Karen, because everyone wanted them, but we all wanted them back. Yep. And now that they're all back's like,
Starting point is 00:51:02 Now put him with Spider-Man. Because Spider-Man's got to... No. Yeah, in the comics, they're together and they're fun together. And the Punisher, man. Spider-Man and the Punisher? Come on. Show a little. Eventually. Yeah, eventually.
Starting point is 00:51:15 They said season... Let him breathe, man. Let him say season two. Didn't say season one? Let him fucking breathe. Well, after season one, he'll breathe. So you need to breathe. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Your breath sticks. All right, let's get to some TV picks. We got TV picks coming up here. And then we're going to get into your questions. Roxy, what's this? So I thank you to you guys. I was always planning on watching Monsters, which is the Menendez Brothers story. I have not finished it yet.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I'm a few episodes deep. I will say I haven't finished it yet because it is a very challenging watch. They are doing an amazing job in it. Have either of you guys seen this or heard of this? I know what it is. It's Ryan Murphy, right? Well, that's a good question. I actually don't know if this is Ryan.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Because he was upset that the Menendez brother, not upset. calling him and his brothers out because they're like, oh, this show is this and that. And he's like, dude, you need to be sending me flowers. Like these men's brothers have some balls to be saying that this show that makes them look bad. They got some balls on them. Well, I think that's because, and I haven't seen this yet, spoilers for an episode that I've heard about, there's an episode in which he has them with incest.
Starting point is 00:52:23 He has them kiss. Oh. And I think that they were not happy about that from what I'm hearing, which if they didn't actually. They don't get you happy about shit. You and I don't see this eye to eye, Mikey Christmas, but I think that it's interesting that that they would be upset because it is painting them in a different light and it has caused a lot of celebrities and civilians to be really, and celebrities are civilians, but celebrities and people who are not celebrities to be like we should get them out of prison.
Starting point is 00:52:56 This is fucked up what happened to them and they shouldn't be there anymore like Kim Kardashian now is taking them on as her next. Big thing. Hold on, Rock. You're saying that these people don't think they killed their parents? No, they know they killed them, but they know that they were so badly abused as kids. Kind of like the Gypsy Rose situation. They thought that, okay, okay, despite them killing them, that their lives were at serious risk.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Gotcha. With them around, which, again, this is a TV show. This is a scripted TV show. Right. And so, you know, a documentary does a better job with it. But if you look into that, what if it is Ryan Murphy, which I think you're right. I think it is doing is every episode is taking like, because we don't know exactly what happened. And it's taking all different perspectives from like the psychologist that worked with them to everybody's different theories.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And so there's a lot of theories on what happened. The Menendez brothers saying they watched a movie and just killed their parents versus the dad being physically and sexually abusive to them for a decade versus what the. mom's role like there's just so many theories none of us of course know what happened but it is causing them to reopen their case um and i believe that they're legally they're looking into this right now um so it'll be interesting to see what happens but the show is well done but i did find myself last night i was watching episode i was like i can only watch one before bed because it is scary it's really it's it's horrifying there's a word for it i forget they tell us in the show for when you specifically kill your parents um and metricide that's
Starting point is 00:54:29 exactly what is the same one with her? Patricide. Patricide. What it takes to kill your parents and like the combination of the tomb, it's scary. And then in the most recent episode, or not in the most recent episode, but in one of the episodes, you see that the parents had threatened and threatened to take them out of the will and they told them that they were out of the will. But at the end of the day, their parents left them everything and they killed them. So just like watching the downfall of them and this destroy them as people too it's hard to watch it's really well done it's getting a lot of pushback because i do think that it it takes big swings on the story like having them kiss which is like
Starting point is 00:55:12 huh did that happen did it not happen um but i'm i'm enjoying the tv show and that's on netflix so that's me that's netflix yeah okay so the next one after that i love bad monkey i love this most recent episodes as well. Who is that? That's Mike. I mean, I can't you hear anything. It's not me. I thought that was your thing you just put up. That was you, you, embassal.
Starting point is 00:55:38 All right, let's see. Next. What groove. I love this show. I think that it is really entertaining. It's a comedy, but it's also a great crime show. Yeah, it is. And, Christian, are you caught up on this?
Starting point is 00:55:53 I'm not caught up, but I'm looking forward to catching up. What is that? That's got to be. You're doing this on purpose. Now, stop. I'm not doing anything. I don't have any. Here's my phone right here.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And my phone, you get. What is that? What is the song? I don't know. I don't know what it is. Not me. That's you.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And next time it comes on, next time it comes on, I'll mute you and it'll stop. I'm not doing anything. I hope it. He monetizes the entire video. You hope it does? Look,
Starting point is 00:56:22 it's on. Can you see the little orange? I'll make you deal right. I was going to say. make you a deal, Roxy. If that happens, you do the show for free today. No, I hold the demo's entire video, and then you make Mike clean the dishes for a week. No, I don't really hope that. But I do. What is our count? What is our numbers? Well, let's finish your TV, then I'll tell you. So Bad Monkey is...
Starting point is 00:56:43 That Monkey is really good. Apple TV. They're great. Love is Blind. New season dropped. We just had the Love is Blind UK. Now we're Love is Blind U.S. This show to me, this season, Seems like they really searched tie and low to find people, but they did something very strange. So they have us go through the pods. You guys have heard me talk about this. People fall in love through these walls. They get engaged, sight unseen.
Starting point is 00:57:08 And then they go to the altar, and it's a will, they won't they say yes. There are some relationships that have really worked out from this. There are some that have not. But this specific season, the most dramatic couple, only six couples get to go on vacation together. And the most dramatic couple, they did not choose for us to follow. So I was kind of like, huh, why did this show not pick the people that they showed us to be the most dramatic couple?
Starting point is 00:57:37 And this one guy, have you guys not been seeing all these clips about this one guy who's like, I don't want people to fall in love with me for my money? And nobody has to know that he's rich. But in the pods, the first thing he says is like, everybody goes for me for my money because I'm completely set. And I just don't want anybody to fall in love with me because I'm rich. Rich. How many seasons is this show now? What did you say?
Starting point is 00:57:56 How many seasons is this show now? I think seven, Mikey. Oh, Christ. I know. All right. Let's see. Next one. We're all watching this.
Starting point is 00:58:07 We're all loving this. The penguin's awesome. Can we talk about how the kid is holding his own with Farrell? Easily. And that kid should be miles. He should be Miles Morales. He was at Comic Con. They brought him out.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah. I think it might have been Zoom. No, Farrell was Zoom. I think he was there. This was this is this is his first thing, isn't it? I mean not I mean I don't note at least of note at least of note. Yeah. Do you guys watch the behind the scenes afterwards? No, no they're great. So this time I was he was featured speaking about being on the show and his character and he's so different than his character. Yeah, and I was like that that's really cool. I haven't seen an interview with him or anything yet and I was like oh wow like this is a hell of a performance. Everybody's talking about Kristen Milotti as they should be.
Starting point is 00:59:00 She's unbelievable. And everybody's talking about Colin Farrell because he's unbelievably so as we should be. Oh, he was in a show. He was in a show called Runaways. It's a Marvel show. Wait, I watched Runaways.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I guess he was in that. Anyway. But it's amazing how different he is in real life to his character. So that, so that's... I watched every episode of that show. I don't know. You watch a lot of TV.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I do. So that's on Sunday. And that was years ago. we probably look very different. That show's kicking ass and that's on. And then the next one. Agatha all along is just really doing it for me. I hope that Sadie's still loving this too, Christian,
Starting point is 00:59:36 because I'm obsessed with this show. I think Catherine Hahn is an absolute G. There seems to be a lot of controversy this week. I keep saying that. A lot of controversy, but, you know, like I guess they announced that this was Marvel's first queer lead. And then people were like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:59:55 he's queer and then there was like a little backtracking but I'm not exactly sure who said in the first place and also I just like this show so anytime I like a show I now I'm trying to avoid the internet because you guys know I like shows that a lot of people don't like sometimes and I like shows that people do like and I like the show and then I go to the internet and the internet tries to tell me all the time about why I shouldn't like the show and all the shit that shows doing wrong and I'm just like okay I like it all right uh last one here I think oh you did that one already um There you go. This is Ryan Murphy.
Starting point is 01:00:29 That's right. It's not true. I said that is Ryan Murphy. Yeah, you're right. Oh, I was like, oh, man, am I off? This show is not hooked me yet. It is very similar to a American horror story. The, but it's also like trying to be a little bit true detective and got a lot of
Starting point is 01:00:50 religious elements to it. Performances are good. I'm not exactly sure where they're. the mystery is going. I'm going to stick with it a little longer. I don't know anybody who's watching this. And I am curious how it's doing because I don't know, do you have you guys talked to anybody who's like, you should watch Cortascary? No, you're the only person. You're the only person I've heard. I wouldn't, if it was of you, I wouldn't even know what this show is. So I'm liking it fine so far. It's, it's not doing a bad job. It just hasn't really
Starting point is 01:01:18 fully hooked me. Okay. Well, there you go. There are the TV picks by Roxy. Make sure you take a look at some of those. Let us know, by the way, the comments, whether you're in the live chat, super chats, watching on the replay, Spotify, what shows are you watching, anything that Roxy recommended, anything you recommend to her? Put that stuff in there. We'd love to hear it. Okay, we're going to get to your questions, and they're right now 41, 41, so Roxy and Mike only have, what, 12 to go.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Easy, easy, easy, easy. But then there's a whole other week question. Well, yeah, you got to do this one, though. All right. Then you also, yeah, you still got. I don't understand. You got Winston and Coy. All right.
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Starting point is 01:04:19 All right, let's get to the... Let the English see you do it. That's true. Never a million years thought I hear you quote that that movie. That's what you always say. So I wanted to make sure that I told the people. And I can still make quotes. That's true.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Why is that gives it? Yes. Good, good. Good. Derek Johnson, starting on us off. Derek, the great. Throwing some early support. Thank you, Derek.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Derek is the man. Justin Square. Happy Tuesday. Thank you. Thank you. Could the three of you do a couple of rounds of the movie game what's the movie game if you start with a movie then the actor than the movie and so I don't know if I can do a couple rounds that's the difference between
Starting point is 01:04:58 like this and sienn just as we want to be sure that we keep to the you know a lot of the topics and stuff too but like I don't even know what the what's the movie game is this is a move and what is you start with a movie than an actor that I mean we can't we can't we can't do that here is it's it'll be 15 or 20 minutes just that I asked me a question just throw in a regular question here and I'll try to find this because I don't want you to it is we just can't I can't play a full on movie one round tierie I only got you guys until the end. I don't know what the whole thing. Kieran Knightley, it was what do you do? Another actor?
Starting point is 01:05:27 I don't know how fuck this thing works. I think you say a movie she's in and then Mike says an actor from that movie and then we're done. Oh, that's it? All right, go for it. Who you got? Kear Knightley? Sure. Love Actually.
Starting point is 01:05:40 What's his face? The guy from Walking Dead. Oh, you're great at this. Jesus. Thank you. Andrew Lincoln. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Good good job. Yay. Way to go team. Thank you. The guy from Wall. walking dead hey it was right Justin Square follows it up thank God with a happy belated birthday Christian thank you Justin also happy belated two-year anniversary to the end of the Shmo down that's crazy it's been two years wow two years yeah he says
Starting point is 01:06:03 isn't it been crazy it's been two years it's been yeah I guess he knows better than me I guess it's been yeah it's been two years yeah that makes sense yeah I remember being in the car driving back with my family when the announcement went out yeah wow yeah uh poo the poo the weenie just finished lost for the first time and it was beautiful. I cried. Everyone told me the ending sucked, but I disagree. How do you like the loss finale? You know, I got to go back and watch it again because I wonder if going back and watching it gives you newfound love for it because that's another show. You had to wait like an obscene amount of time before the season came back in the way you did for the Sopranos.
Starting point is 01:06:42 And I, when I had that, it was like a two-year break with Sopranos and I was like, oh my God, the last season just wasn't up to part. Then I watched the whole season and it was the whole series and rewatch it was fantastic. So how do you feel about that, Roxy? How do you like the finale? Number one, I bet Poo the Weenie loves when you say Do Do. Number two, I remember
Starting point is 01:07:02 that Rotten Tomatoes had me on a little bit ago to do like a did I like or not like the finale. So I did a rewatch of just the last few episodes leading up to it. And it really didn't stick the landing for me.
Starting point is 01:07:16 But I I appreciate what they did. It's not what I wanted to see in the finale, but I think that they did better than they are credited for. Like people, and I'm with you, Christian, I love the soprano. When I went back and rewatch Sopranos, I love the Spranos finale.
Starting point is 01:07:36 The lost one, I think, left a little bit too much to be desired, but it doesn't negate that the show is one of the best shows of all time. Yeah, Mike, you never watch this show, right? I tried to get into it, and the more it went on, the less answers they gave you and they just didn't answer stuff so I'm like, nope, I'm out. But did you love the pilot? Pretty good pilot.
Starting point is 01:07:56 The sourness I had from trying to get through a lot of seasons and it soured the pilot for me. Hey, Roxy, are you watching a TV show called Found? With Shinola Hampton and Mark Paul Gossler on... It would be a joke. No, no, it's for real.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Yeah, I thought so, too. I was like... No, it's a second season. up. I love her. No, what is it? It's on NBC. And it's essentially like a, basically she was kidnapped by Mark Paul Gossler. When she was younger, she escaped. He escaped the cops. And then she found him. She's a detective. She found him, but she uses him to find other lost
Starting point is 01:08:41 kids. She's like basically kind of like a reverse, Dexter meets, you know, Silas and a Lambs type thing. Huh. I feel like I've seen a commercial for this one on my Grammy. Shinola, I interviewed her a couple of times. She's quite literally one of the nicest actresses I've ever met in my entire life. She was on, Shmo's No years ago. But the reason I asked is that I'm actually interviewing Mark Paul Gossler tomorrow. Oh, that's great. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Yeah, so we'll be talking about that show. Mike Joyce. Man, Zoloft really throwing Phoenix and Phillips under the bus. Yeah, I think more so Phillips, but yeah. Mike Joyce. Lots of bonus points being offered by various theaters. If we buy Gladiator 2 tickets, when tickets first go on sale, bad sign for the movie?
Starting point is 01:09:24 I don't know. Maybe, I mean, look, they got it. I think that, I don't know it's a bad sign as much as it's like when you spend that much money on a movie, you try to do everything you can to get people into the theater, even if it's great. I don't think that's a bad sign at all. No.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I didn't like the trailer. That's a bad sign. But I don't think that the ticket thing's a bad sign. We could, like, think about like what Deadpool and Wolverine did. Yeah. Yeah, the buckets and all that stuff. People do gimmicky stuff all the time. I don't think that makes it a bad sign.
Starting point is 01:09:51 It's a bad sign if they serve booze to critics at the screenings. Right before it starts. Yeah, that's true. That's a bad sign. Yes. Roman Fedorak. Hey, all, happy to see everyone here. Sorry I couldn't contribute yesterday. Please don't apologize. Mondays are my busy days.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Keep being your awesome selves. Roman, thank you for continuously being in here and doing it. Hell yeah. Okay, we got some more. We got Derek, Derek the Great. I swear I feel like I come out of here and bash D.C. and I really don't want to. This feels like some brand saving by throwing Todd under the bus,
Starting point is 01:10:21 and it feels just like the old DCEU. Yeah, but see, that's the thing, though, this as we said beforehand, you can't blame anybody else except Todd Phillips and the Warner Brothers execs. You can't blame anybody. You can't blame D.C. You can't blame James Gunn or Safra. They weren't involved in this thing. So who else?
Starting point is 01:10:38 I think the right people are getting blamed. I think the executives who didn't tell him no should also be blamed, if that was the case, like, oh, and he just, he couldn't be reasoned with. And tell him no. You're the one signing the checks. Tell him no. So, you know, that's, that to me is also, yeah, Russia. I also think there's a way to not like something and not bash it.
Starting point is 01:11:01 So I know that you said you're, you feel like you're bashing D.C. and you don't want to. I think you can say that you like or dislike parts of something and acknowledge the things that you do like. Like, never do we hate 100% of something or not usually. So I try to do this as well, not because I'm trying to be all sunshine and rainbows. Like, what's the point in artists and executives are a little different than artists, but Todd Phillips is artists who are trying to create, so has gone and saffron, or especially gone. Artists are trying to create art and it's vulnerable and it's intimidating and it's difficult.
Starting point is 01:11:36 And that doesn't mean that they do it right all the time, but just to bash them is no fun. So I think there's ways to talk about things without being like, this sucks. I hate everything. You can say, I'm hopeful for this part of DC. I liked this thing. I don't think that this was a good decision. I wish that they had done this. Give him some time. He has some time. So Dennis Hoffman, Joker 2, unfortunately for everyone, but is unfortunate for everyone, but Phillips has made W.B. so much money. Nobody could say no to him. They made his next film, and it'll be an original. I mean, he's not wrong. That's probably exactly why they didn't say no. The guy's continuously makes money, and this is the one.
Starting point is 01:12:11 But now, because of this, they can say no to him on things. That's the one thing. So we'll see. Mirajum Serenti Moon. Roxy, I truly love the series. Nobody wants this. That's the one you talked about last week, right? You love it?
Starting point is 01:12:27 Yeah. It is amazing. And I've gotten like 50 people to watch it. And I am the reason it's number one on that one. Oh, you're the only reason. Yeah, again, humble. And the reason it's not all of the press that Adam Brody and Chris and Bell have been doing everywhere that is so freaking awesome. It's me.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Humble. Yeah. Okay. So this is Gina Horton. I'm so humble. Sit down. Please. Saw Joker 2 last night.
Starting point is 01:12:49 It's ahead of its time and a total masterpiece. Wow. Ten years two from now, it'll be rediscovered as a classic. Obviously, the critics tearing it down is why it did make money. It didn't make money. You know who's loving it right now? What? Boy.
Starting point is 01:13:04 After saying he didn't is now saying he loves it. Oh, he says he loves it? Well, what is it is? I think the most recent post said, like, Like, while I liked it at first, now I'm loving something. Is that him just putting up his dukes with some glass on his fist? No, he said he, like, thought about, I don't know. He said he thought about some of things.
Starting point is 01:13:22 He didn't like the first one that much, too. So it's, yeah, I don't know. Look, to each his own. Derek Johnson, I'll boost up the numbers for Twitter, Killer Mike. Joker was boring, and the movie was a recap of the first movie. It never moved forward in any way. I agree. Yeah, not wrong.
Starting point is 01:13:40 And he follows that up. He said, didn't he kill the therapist at the end of the first movie? That's what I was talking about. He embraced his darker side. I got to watch it again. I thought the scene ended with him leaving in the police car watching the city. No, he embraced his darker side fully, according to the first movie. Now he's back to square one in this movie.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Just bad storytelling. It's exactly what I was saying. Thank you, Derek. He said there's got to be some positive entertainment news somewhere, right? Yeah, look, there's some stuff. I think there's a positive story of Martin Scorsese. Eighty-1, Strong, doing his thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Harlow put it with Scraesee. Didn't they just announce his two films that were going into pre-production are not anymore? The Sinatra film and then there was one other. So it's like, all right, you're going to keep going, but what are you going to keep going? Like, two films you wanted to go with aren't going.
Starting point is 01:14:26 It's true. I'm not sure. Weird thing. Yeah, very much so. Okay, yeah, some people were saying, nobody cares about the doctor. Well, you should. The whole point was that it got him,
Starting point is 01:14:37 as Derek said, It got him to this particular place, and then they abandoned it, and they went back to square one. I gave you guys a whole list of TV shows that I loved. That's positive. That's true. Shea Markell, I want to see a sequel to the Mark Wahlberg led Mile 22. I'm still pulling for Eco Owas to get his big break in American cinema. Have you seen it?
Starting point is 01:14:58 Dude? No. I enjoyed the hell out of that movie. I don't even know what this is. What is this? Isn't Rhonda Rousey in it? It's a film about a group of kind of like government contractors. that have to take this guy 22 miles.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And I think it's Jakarta. They have to transport this prisoner through this 22 miles of kind of, you know, just lawlessness and gangs and whatnot. But it's a little bit more than that. There's a little bit more. It's kind of this reversal with the Russian government and the Russians playing a double cross. But it's real. I think Mark Wahlberg was completely the wrong person to be the lead in this.
Starting point is 01:15:34 I feel so bad for him because every time there's so many conversations that happens. But it's a good movie. And it could have a sequel. Peter Berg directs the hell. I like you love that man. I'm actually going to rewatch that now. Mad Sinister McCall, besides Joker, rank my five other favorite Batman villains. Scarecrow, Bain, Poison Ivy, Two-Face,
Starting point is 01:15:52 Hush. Didn't even see Joker. I watched a robot instead. It's a good choice while we're about it's pretty great. For me, because I don't know who Hush is, coming in last, then I would go with Scarecrow.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Listen again, Christian, Scarecrow, Bain, Poison, Ivy, Hush. He wants us to use those five? Yeah. I would say, number one, I'm going to put Bain, number two, I'll put Two-Face, three. I'll put Poison Ivy, four, Scarecrow, five, Hush. Mike, what is your list on this? Let me know who Hush is. Two-Faces one.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Christian Hush is awesome. Those are some of my least favorite villains. Two-faces, one, Poison Ivy, two, Hush, three, Scarecrow, four, Bain, five. I'm not happy one did you put Bain 5 yeah and Christian put Bain one no that's interesting no I didn't put Bain one did I put one yeah are we talking the movie versions or are we yeah I was going I was going to movie version that's all I mean I don't know what they're talking honestly you could do whatever you want because whatever you know so if you're you have more knowledge on it scare crow hush um two face Bain yeah all right no I don't
Starting point is 01:17:10 know, two-fish should be hired than that. I don't know, actually. That's tough. I like Poison Ivy a lot, though. Exalted 10. I feel like W.B. gave Todd Phillips the make-our-sequel and will fund your next Passion Project deal. Probably. I wouldn't be surprised, but if that was the case, they should have had a cap on how much he spent.
Starting point is 01:17:27 And they were probably making, you know, giving him budgets like it was 2018 all over again, which clearly is not. Okay. Let's go to the next one and that is from Mirageum against Ernie Moon. Hey Roxy, do you have some
Starting point is 01:17:46 lighthearted kind of tips for series or movies? I feel like I'm in need for more lighthearted stuff to watch. I'll give you a movie that I've been telling people about and Roca gave me shit. Arthur the King. Arthur the King. No, I'm serious. I know but hey Roxy. Yeah, they didn't say hey Roxy, just said Roxy. Okay. Go ahead. Answer your question. Well, go ahead. Arthur the King. Yeah, that's it. That was my lighthearted movie. So funny. Somebody call me about this week and ask me about lighthearted things. Nobody wants. This is definitely
Starting point is 01:18:17 a great one for that. One that I recommend all the time to people that a lot of people haven't seen is The Great. That's lighthearted, really fun, period, piece about Catherine the Great, but not really, which I really enjoyed. So if you send in a little more
Starting point is 01:18:33 about what you're interested in, I can give you some more. Perfect. Top Dog Rig. Do you think it would have been a better decision if they hired a director who had previous experience at musicals with Phillips writing and producing. P.S. Christian, you do do, you, you, you. Thank you. I will tell you that I think that no, because I think that the musical thing was that Phillips' idea with Joaquin. So it was his thing that he wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:19:00 I don't think the musical aspect, it got tiresome for me. It got tiresome in the way that Mike's audience got, it was like, there was sometimes it worked, but it wasn't the thing for me that I was like, oh, this movie was so terrible because it was music. It was just like, it was Mike said. It was boring. It was really weird to have another director. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it would have worked, especially where they were doing.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Aaron Ambrose, morning from Australia. Currently, 3.50 a.m. for me, I think it's criminal. No one is talking about Superman and Lois. Final season just premiered. It's brilliant. Mike, do you watch this show? I'm behind. I'm so far behind.
Starting point is 01:19:35 It is so good when I do watch it. and I have a very good friend of mine that's an executive Warner Brothers and this was his show and I've got through the past couple of Comic-Kines to meet and hang out with Pitsy and Tyler and they are two of the nicest actors I've ever met in Tyler. Yeah, we interviewed Tyler for Claire a lot, but he's great. And they, and you know, my friend introduced me as an actor and they didn't treat me like, because I'm not to their level of anything different. It was just this so, but the show is great. And when I do watch it and I'm so far behind on it, it's, he doesn't get enough credit. I don't think it because it's kind of like to see C. It's a, you know, television show CW, but it's also kind of been shuffled.
Starting point is 01:20:17 There's the big, and that's the DC and the new Superman movies coming out. Like he doesn't get a fair shake, I think, when it comes to all time portrayals of the character. Like he is so good as both Clark and Superman. I'm super with you. She's a great Lois. I don't, I agree with that too. And, you know, Lois is always a tough character. for me. I think she's awesome, though.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Yeah. I don't know what it is. I really like this show. I watched the first couple of seasons, loved it. And then I don't know what it is that I just kind of trailed off of it. I think because our like Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, those aren't on anymore. I'm just not in the swing of watching my CW shows. I think if this show had aired like right after Flash season one and was part of the mix, then he would be getting his flowers more because he's so good. But now it's kind of on an island and just, I don't know as many people who are watching it. Getting his flowers. I like that. Yeah. Okay. Next one, Steve Kennejo, who just says hello, friends. Hello, Steve. Hope you doing good. Hello. Buster Barnes. I just want some consistency, good DC content.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Is that too much to ask? Gun, please save me. If Superman sucks, I don't know what I'm going to do. Cry probably. I mean, I think that's fair because that everybody agrees that that needs to be, that's got a hit. otherwise you're in big trouble. If Superman sucks. But I think, but also what I love so far, and you know, nothing, we haven't seen anything,
Starting point is 01:21:41 is that the diversity of everything, there's animated, there's this kind of now claymation puppetry thing that's going to be coming out. There's still the gun stuff or the Reeves stuff, which is DC adjointed. So I think there's a lot. It's not like it's all eggs are in one basket for, you know, there's a lot of different things. I know them, I know it all wants to connect. that's his whole goal. So it does seem like if something doesn't work,
Starting point is 01:22:06 it might affect the others. But I don't know. We're still kind of an wait-and-see, period. Roxy, they're making you sweat it out. 47. Oh, no. 47. We got time.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Rokam, I got you. Miriam. But we can't hit 52, Mikey. We've got to get, you know, like, we're going to get our butt sticks for later on in the week. That's true. Are you excited for Agatha all along, episode five? Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious. And we ended on a little bit of a cliffhanger. Yeah. We'll see how it goes. Buster Born. I enjoy watching it with Sadie.
Starting point is 01:22:44 And I think there's a good dynamic with, I think Catherine Hahn is great. I think Aubrey Plaza is fantastic. I like the kid. I think the kid is charming. I like them too. Yeah. Buster Barnes. I hope D.C.U. is clever with their budgets.
Starting point is 01:22:57 I don't mind these lesser known character projects like Swamp Thing or Sergeant Rock. I'm actually excited for them, but please don't give them $200 million. I beg. Yeah, I know that's what I hope. Also that they've learned from the Marvel mistakes. Like, it's okay, make some smaller kind of like, you know, in what ironically the first Joker movie was, was a smaller budget movie.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Derek, great. Do we believe that Warner Brothers would let another director run wild with their IP after all the Snyder issues? And if it's true, I have to question new leadership for letting it get that far. Yeah, I mean, this is not a situation. I think this was such a turn of a event. events because this was a we were looking some people were predicting this that a shot to get to like a billion again this one like it didn't
Starting point is 01:23:39 supposed to have like a 150 million dollar opening and all this stuff like they were on this kind of trajectory just to to rescue it roka was going over all the stuff for that came out in warner brothers this year and it's like they're not having a great year minus dune two and maybe something else but for the most part they're having a having a rough rough uh year at the box office um okay so derrick again thank you so much really appreciate All the support that you continue to throw in, my friend. Really appreciate that. And now, Han, one bite into my fried egg, and Harlov starts with poop ads. Yeah, well, now you need a bidet. After you have your fried egg, you're going to need that bidet, depending on how much cheese you put on there.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Okay. Dan V-900. It is still crazy to me that the first Joker film made almost 2 million more than the Rise of Skywalker as a Raid R film and didn't open in China. It says a lot about the success of both of those films. Yeah, I mean, just... Sure. I mean, there was, I think that it was exciting to see. I think that was that I still feel it was a studio note to not have the bad guy kind of win again this time. And also because you look at Breaking Bad and Supranos. How many movies, movies and big movies like that do you have the bad guy winning in comic? Are you referring to Breaking Bad and Sopranos as the bad guy winning?
Starting point is 01:24:57 Well, for a lot of the season, not by the end of it. I mean, depending on how you look at if you even know what happened with the Sopranos. But for the most, part when you're watching this season. And one can argue that Walter White still won. Here's a question for both of you guys. Better finale. Sopranos are Breaking Bad? Breaking Bad, but I think that
Starting point is 01:25:18 Sopranos has grown on me when you look at the artistic of really what's going on throughout it and you pick up all the little signs. It's pretty brilliant. I agree with everything Christian just said. Breaking Bad, but Sopranos are Yeah. Patty Boy. Any thoughts on we live in time? It has good buzz. I'm going to see it tonight.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Where is that? That's the... It's the Florence Pew, Andrew Garfield movie that people are loving, and I cannot wait to see, but I have not seen it yet, but I will be going. I'm seeing it. So that was the thing is I'm going tonight, I'm going into the city now that I know what area I'm supposed to go in now and which trains to take. I can actually get there. You'll mess it up again, don't worry. No, not this time. This time I have my idea. I believe in you. Thank you. Mersham. or any moon. I love the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies. I did too. So Matt Sarah just did an episode of his show that we just did with Robbie Fox from Barstool. And we did a full episode of the Spider-Man movies. And Spider-Man, we talked about Tom Holland, and Robbie was talking about how much he loved the Tom Holland. I agree. I think Tom Holland movies are pretty good. I do too. I love them. How is Matt Sarah's stuff doing? Pretty good. I mean, look, he just started the show. We were ready up close to 5,000 subscribers. He just started it. You know, he's, he's averaging pretty, the most, the thing is he loves doing it. He loves doing it. He's got that infectious energy.
Starting point is 01:26:41 So I'm sure it's going to get on fast. Rocks, I really wish we went, we did a thing for my birthday on Saturday. And obviously, I know you would have been there if you could have been. But you would have been there to meet Matt's wife. She's the, how is she? Oh, she's the sweetest. She's like, the way I said it, imagine Adrian from Rocky. if after after Rocky 2
Starting point is 01:27:02 Adrian actually started boxing oh my but but like she's but she started she was she was Adrian and then she started actually kickboxing stuff she and she was the nicest so she's kick ass yeah but you would never know it from talking to her no no you know like some
Starting point is 01:27:18 people like oh yeah that's a fight like when you see Matt you like that's a fighter yeah for sure no she's like she was like a former teacher and she's just a very chill I mean you just want to sit there and talk to her Because she's just so cool. Was Sadie with you or now?
Starting point is 01:27:33 Yeah, she loved her. Did they get along well? Yes, Sadie loved her. Good. Mirsham's turning a moon, very mindful, very demure, Roxy. Is what Miriams. Very much. Do you guys, okay, let's see how old you guys are.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Do you know what this is a reference to? No. Nope. Amazing. What is it? What is it? The number one TikTok trend for the last like couple months. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:27:53 This one girl went to work and she was like, see how I do my makeup for work? work, I don't, I'm not overstated. Very mindful, very demure. And now, like, all the kids are saying, very mindful, very demure. I hate it. Um, and the whole trend, it's like opposite of being brat is being very mindful, very demure. I hate it. Okay. Mike Joyce, continuing your youth conversation from last Tuesday, have you heard of skidbidbitty toilet? Nope. Skiddy toilet. Skidbitty toilet. I don't know, but I know Skibbitty. Don't know what that is.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Duty toilet is. Steph showed us on the World Girls and his popularity made me concern for kids today. Go ahead, Roxy. What is this nonsense? Theory Toilet is an insane YouTube channel that has like hundreds and hundreds of millions of views. They make this guy's head go in a toilet and it is now it's slated to be a movie. I'm so confused on what they're going to do. There's all storyline.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Skiddy. this guy's head being flushed down a toilet, but then there's like cities and stuff with it. And you're talking to me about saying Joker Folly a doo-doo? Is it a cartoon or is it a actual man's head going on a tire? Derek Johnson. I think they're doing a live-action movie, though.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Of course they are. Everyone forgot Peter Parker, but no one forgot about Spider-Man. So his secret identity is back intact, which is kind of cool. No, I know, but that's the point, because Matt Murdoch... He would have to go to Matt Murdoch.
Starting point is 01:29:25 as Spider-Rat. Right, right. But he would have no recollection of who he is or why he's going. Well, he would know Spider-Man, right. But he wouldn't know about. He'll know Spider-Man, but he wouldn't know. Right, the trial thing you wouldn't know. I love your energy, Roxy. He's from Mirjam. She's got good energy.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Ah! Yeah. Who said that? Mirjam. Miriam. What about who says with you? Or Miriam, I think it's Miriam. So, Dan V-900. Ramey doing a Spider-Girl film with Toby as the father instead of Toby, Spider-Man for film is a lot more interesting to me.
Starting point is 01:29:54 There's just more story potential. Ramey doing another Spider-Man is way more intriguing to me than him doing another Doctor Strange Marvel movie. Yeah, it's just... What's a Spider-Man girl film? I think Spider-Gwen would be great. It's May... Is it?
Starting point is 01:30:09 It's May Parker, isn't it, it's daughter? But I think it's an alternate, you know... Oh. Yeah. To which Derek says, Twitter Killer Mike is here and ain't taken no guff. That's right, baby. L-M-F-A-O.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Love the show, guys. That's right. Roxy, don't read the comments. A lot of us respect your perspective. You keep being you. Thank you so much. That's Derek. They fuel me.
Starting point is 01:30:31 I appreciate it. Guff is such an underrated word. It is. Roman Fedorak, Christian and Company, any standout scores for the year. Yeah, Dune 2 is going to be mine. My two favorites are Hans Zimmer's were Dune 2. And Chris Bowers for the Wild Robot.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Wow, that was a good one. And the Transformers, one score was pretty damn good, too. Inside Out. I'll say it is. Oh, hold. What is that? Is that a fight? That sounds like a full-on.
Starting point is 01:30:53 fight that is I can't show you when we have a slot in the door the mail my dog used to do it all time like a tax the man so and you wait oh I'm gonna tear it up yanking it same my dog my old dog he just said we can't look at him he just said we look at him yeah he can't remember too he literally said five seconds before I can't show you because it doesn't reach over well I'm taking a picture I'll post it shit head oh I don't know if you need to curse it's kind of I'm gonna curse that's kind of bad yeah what a wow what a loser anyway um no a great score is What?
Starting point is 01:31:23 Man, you got thick skin, my dude. I appreciate that about you, my ghost brother. You guys are both losers. All right, so we got... No, I got a good score recommendation. Oh, no one cares about you. What? Cape Crusader, Batman, Cape Crusader on Prime.
Starting point is 01:31:37 That scores great. Nice. Shea Markle. Nice. This episode is like herding cats. Facts. It's totally true. A lot of chaos going on in this show.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Tell you that much. Okay. That's good. Where's the camera going? I don't know, but it won't come back. No. Roman Fedorak. Also, what are some controversial opinions you have on movies? For me, I'm not a big fan of Godfather Part 2. Doesn't hold a candle to Part 1, and the best scenes are with Young Vito, not Michael.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Wow. Okay. You want to know what just aired for Real Rejects for me? Which movie I absolutely couldn't stand and everybody's pissed off at me about? Interview with Vampire? Yes. I did not like that movie, and people are now treating it like, like I should be in a hole. Oh, really? Are they pissed off?
Starting point is 01:32:27 Oh, they're furious. Wow. Because my entire, like, I, they were like, oh, you're making it something it's not. I'm bummed that Natalie, no, no. Kirsten Dunst. Kristen Dunst, yeah, I watched it right near when I watched the Niley Potom. I'm bummed that Kristen Duns had to have her first kiss with Brad Pitt at when she was 11 years old. That is like disgusting to me to watch.
Starting point is 01:32:52 it like ruined the movie for me and then looking at the behind the scene stuff of her being like she was miserable about it and it was uncomfortable and like that her parents didn't stop that the production and stuff it like and then every scene i viewed differently and i just didn't like it that doesn't mean i don't think anybody else should like it it's a movie that people love but people were like you're being so weird you're a petto if you think that's petto it's a real person and she's a really had to kiss an adult yeah i think the problem is you know it's the story what not they should have used a double and shot away or had this is what intimacy coordinators are for nowadays right something you would have had on and this kind of stuff happens and it's like now i'm watching it with a 2024 view can't help it and this it's a real human whose first kiss was an 11 year old is with a 30 something year old and it's like disturbed the fuck out of me yeah yeah i i and the internet It was nice to you about it. And the internet was really nice.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Okay. Well, let's go to the next one here, and that's top dog rig. I never recommend TV shows, but the only one out now, I will stick my neck out for is a show called From on MGM Plus. People love this show. What is that? People love this show. People don't stop recommending me this show. What is it?
Starting point is 01:34:10 I'm desperate to watch it. It's the guy from Lost, too. I'm desperate to watch this show. However, I do not have. This is the one service I do not have. I do have it. But who's in it? Which guy from Lost?
Starting point is 01:34:22 What was his name? No, no, no. The guy from Lost to... Flitla-Dadela? Locke? What? No, he played like Michael or something was his name, and maybe the dad of that. Let's see what his character name.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Oh, oh, is it... What? Oh, gosh, you know his name. Tario Quinn? No, no, no. I just said that. No, you guys are... You're in the complete opposite direction.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Flea-Dadala? What? It's the guy from Lost whose name... Somebody tell me in the chat. I'm looking now on the thing. Saeed? No, Michael. I was right. Michael's his name. What? What are you guys doing? Here we go. Next one. This is, this is him.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Perfect. Oh, Harold Perrin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. People are obsessed with the show. I know the show. I tried to get him. I tried to get him. It's the number one recommended show I have every year. Oh, wow, okay. And I just, I don't have this one service. That gets talented. Yeah, yes. Shea Markell. Hey, Christian, here's, here's an enemy. I bet you to enjoy attack on Titan. I hear that. It is an epic and gripping story. Try two episodes and see if you like it. I have had many people recommend that to me and hear that is pretty damn good. Someone, oh yeah, someone said, am I doing UAP Tuesday? Yes, I already shot it before I did this.
Starting point is 01:35:37 So I'll be, I have to edit that when I get off the air here. Crash and Coyote. Christian rewatch the ending of Joker 1. He does kill the doctor. The doc is even at the trial in Joker 2. It was in his head what Joker wanted to do. Sure. That was explained not well.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Crashin Coyote. Doesn't kill Doctor. She testifies in Joker, too. Again. Redcon? Not Redcon. Oh, she does. Who knows? Shea Markell.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Don't trust Coy. He hates the original crow. You're not getting me this time. Yesterday he got me with that. So apparently he loves the original crow. No, no, no, no. He loves it. And it was like, yeah, it was a,
Starting point is 01:36:20 it was some kind of a bit, I guess they did on Real Rejects, yeah. Darth Archie, hey Harloff, I love you in the show, but don't yell at Mike. He's a national treasure. Roxy Rocks, peace to you and yours. Now, part of the bit is that I always yell at Mike. Oh, I love that Mike froze right in the middle of that. It's good. Yeah, it is good.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Sweet camera. What the fuck. Watch your mouth. You're back. So, next one. There we go. And so Roxy and Mike, you guys are at 58. You beat Rocha.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Oh, Jesus. Smoke them. Team. Keep going. Keep it going. You have a little bit of time. Show up. Show out.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Koy and Winston's always the threat. Because you get Stefan Brett on Thursday. Because tomorrow I'm airing my Billy Magnuson interview. That'll be tomorrow. Did you watch that show, Roxy, the franchise? No, not yet. Oh, you're going to watch that. You'll talk about that next week.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Mirjam's Serenity Moon. Did you guys know the older movie, August Rush? It's from 2007. It's such a heartwarming movie. I remember who's in that movie? I don't know, but I've heard of this. I got lost on a schmodeown because of that question, something. What is it?
Starting point is 01:37:24 It's the movie. It's, who is it? The parents are musicians and the daughter. I think it's Carrie Russell maybe. Okay. Maybe. Interesting. Yeah, it's their parents and musicians and either it's about the daughter or them meeting.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Okay. A top dog. I'm looking right now. August rush is Freddie Highmore. Terry Russell. Oh, yeah. Jonathan Rees Myers. Terrence Howard.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Interesting. Well, top. Robin Williams, isn't it? Robin Williams? Wow. Top Dog Rigg. Want to show Roxy some love. She Jex for Life. There you go.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Thank you, thank you so much. Wiley OFC. Are you guys excited for Outer Banks Season 4 this week? What's that? It's awesome. I'm obsessed with that show.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Of course I'm excited. Thank you. OBX for Life. I don't know what that is. Wicked Art. I want Pirates of Dark Water. Get an X-Men 97 reboot. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:13 I have to dig that cartoon. I don't even know what that is. It's a cartoon. I want to say it's early 90s. Okay. Yeah. It's a good one. I am Jack's 12.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Joker 2. Ah, say, oh, say, you got to spend more scratching them words, sonny. No amount of flashy lights. Oh, I say, I say. Got to spend more scratching them words, sunny. No amount of flashy lights. Did you read it like, oh, say, oh, say. Oh, oh, say.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Yes. I say, I do declare. I do declare. It's like trying to dress up a chicken. You rock that, Mike. You like have. Roxy, I believe this. Talking with you here is giving me the vapors.
Starting point is 01:38:47 I do declare I need to have myself a mint julep to cool myself down. Remind me of my cousin Vinnie. Yeah, Shea Markle just puts it a super sticker, thank you. And then Shea follows it up. Hey, Mike, I'm glad you liked Mile 22. It's an awesome movie. Yeah, man. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Shea Markell. Hey, Mike, maybe we have similar tastes. Have you seen Lioness on Paramount? If so, any thoughts? I don't know. Maybe check out a trailer for it sometime. Well, first of all, my friend, I love Lioness. As we're sitting here talking, I was pulling up the, there's a deal on the Blu-ray that I was going to buy.
Starting point is 01:39:26 And I haven't, in season two is coming out. I think October 26th, Lioness is awesome. Like, I don't talk a lot of television because I have a very kind of narrow view of what I love, like the old man. But Lioness is fantastic. And I was so glad the second season got greenlit so fast. Yeah, man. I haven't seen this. Oh, it's so good.
Starting point is 01:39:46 It's Taylor Sheridan. Yeah, I know. Do you think I would like it? This is the one that Zoe Saldon, right? Yeah. Your case, Roxy, is so all over the place. You're not like me where it's very narrow. Yeah. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:00 It's phenomenal acting. I mean, Michael Kelly, Nicole Kidman, Morgan Freeman. Yeah. And they're the supporting cast. They're not even the leads. You know, Rox, let me ask you a question. Going back to the, I think, and I think I know that I can probably, I'm going to answer your question before I even let you answer it.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Because the professional. has a lot of the same kind of, has a lot of even more indications between Leon and Natalie Portman who were young, but they never actually physically kissed. So I guess that's probably the answer. For me, I loved the professional because it's all
Starting point is 01:40:32 one-sided. He is not flirtatious with her at all. She has a crush on him. And I feel like he says very clearly multiple times this, like, sweetheart, that's not what I'm into. But we all in our little
Starting point is 01:40:47 kids have crush on adults. That's what happens when you're a little kid. Like your first crush is probably somebody who's in their 20s or 30s. And it's confusing to navigate those feelings when you're young, like in somebody saved you. In this, I felt like it was reciprocated by the adult character. But also, like you said, Christian, nothing ever happened in that movie. This is for Mitolda. Todd Lane. Matilda. Do you think if Superman is a hit that James Gunn will direct more DC movies. Love you all. Yeah, 100%. Absolutely. Absolutely. Probably do the second Superman,
Starting point is 01:41:25 but he'll probably do, yeah, he'll do more for sure. He loves to direct. Mike Joyce. Hey, Roxy, what did you do? What did you film yesterday with the cars? Hi, Mike. I shot something really cool yesterday, actually. I can talk about it more when things happen, but this new concept about indie filmmaking,
Starting point is 01:41:48 where while you're making the movie, they're also creating a interactive way to watch the behind the scenes filming of a movie, so audiences can kind of like see from beginning to end and ask questions and like really participate in the indie filmmaking experience. And so I was hosting something for the making of this movie that it was like awesome.
Starting point is 01:42:15 I had a great day on set yesterday, and there's a big limo scene, and that's what I was standing in front of a green screen in the limo that I posted today. Thank you for asking. Shea Markell. Oh, wow, Roxie. I've never seen the movie, but I can relate to my real world morality, ruining a movie or a scene for me doing to something happening on set. It's so, like, it happens. I'm not somebody who likes to yuck anybody's yum. If people who love that movie, I'm like, that's awesome, that it worked for you.
Starting point is 01:42:43 I'm not trying to convince anybody to not like. the movie. It just didn't work for me. We can't pretend that, you know, like this is why some people can separate the art from the artist. Some people can't and some and everywhere in between. It didn't work for me because I was watching I was out of body in that moment.
Starting point is 01:42:58 You were done already. Watching an 11 year old. Yeah, you were done. Yeah, I was done. Shea Markell. I guess the cat's out of the bag about coy. Yeah. P. Shetty. Roxy, interview of the vampire is horrible. That's what P. Shetty says.
Starting point is 01:43:13 I really didn't like it. Julius Wyatt. What's your favorite Cohen Brothers movie? Wish to get back together. It'd probably be either what's the one from? Shoot, Nicholas Cage, help me. Are Raising Arizona?
Starting point is 01:43:29 Or the haircut. What's his name? Barnum. No country for a woman. Or the haircut. You were good at the Shmodan at one time? Yeah, a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Jesus. Yeah. It goes. It's like an old, it's like an athlete. Your arm blows out at the end of it. True. I get you. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:43:51 How about you guys? Kind of unrelated, but related. I love the Fargo series. Oh, yeah. I hear good things. The series is awesome. Was that your favorite movie, though, too, Roxy from them? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:01 I don't know. Okay. I'm not sure. Are they Big Lobowski? Oh, shoot. No. Are they? Yeah. Then, sorry.
Starting point is 01:44:12 I still Mike's. And again, I had not. How do I think about the Big Lobowski? I hadn't seen the Big Lobosky till Schmo down. That's 100% of them. I go, no. Yeah. You know, it's a nice face.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Nice face. Look at that stupid face. Oh, I love what I say things. And then it's not true. Yeah. No. Sweet. Great camera.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Hey, Mike. How are you feeling about you? Pretty good. Pretty good. Oh, you're back. I'm back. I also like Big Ladowski. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:38 I don't remember. So, Derek Johnson says, how much do we need to donate from Mike to do that Southern accent for a whole show? I spit out my milk laughing. Mike is a full character. Mike, what do you show? What do you show, $200 for the whole show to do it that way?
Starting point is 01:44:54 Well, I do declare that is something that we would have to come to terms upon, and we would set the terms, which we didn't need upon, too. I don't know if I could do it. I don't believe that the two of you would be able to handle the whole show. I would never. I would never call on you. Kingsport Cowell. Didn't Shakespeare have kids kiss adults?
Starting point is 01:45:12 Again, going back to Rocky, very different time. back then. I am Jacks. And if I had to watch that right now, I probably wouldn't like that either. I am Jack's 12. Favorite small budget movie? Have you seen Man from Earth or Prime?
Starting point is 01:45:25 Well, people use things in history to try to explain why something makes it right. Like, that doesn't make it right. Do we want to talk about history? And everything from history is like, okay, we should just accept it. Word, like, great.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Let's just accept all the Holocaust, slavery, any kind of child, intermarital, like, just what, like, what the, are we talking about? This is what some people were writing in the comments. They were like, but this is what used to happen back in the day. Cool, dog. Like, awesome.
Starting point is 01:45:54 But, Rox, I know what they're, I get what they're saying. But I also agree with what you're saying. It's, it's, you're making a movie about a time that happened back then. It's like, yeah, I get you. Do you know that there was a fight that happened in my college? And there was a big fight. My college? Yes, your college.
Starting point is 01:46:12 There was a big fight. village, Mike. And there was a kick thrown. And it nailed a guy right in the chest because he was fighting other people's friends. So he got kicked in the chest. And then there was more people who came up afterwards. And he goes, who kicked my dog? Who kicked my dog? Yo, who kicked my dog? And this girl goes, oh, that's how the fight started. Somebody kicked that guy's poor dog. Just let everybody know. That's what happened. All right. Favorite small budget movie? Have you seen Man from Earth or Primer? Says I am Jackson. Primer. I've heard of it.
Starting point is 01:46:45 Star Wars. Isn't it Primary Duncan Jones's first one? Yes, the first Star Wars. Small Budget. Know what I like? That's small budget. I don't know if it's small budget, but it seems it is Moon. Oh yeah, my wife hates that movie. I love it. I didn't ask. I just said what I liked. I try to mute me, but I'm here.
Starting point is 01:47:06 No, just sitting it, you piece of garbage. I'm going to sit in it. Yeah, your own farts. Who knows what you've been eating over there? All right. Let's go. Blake Gilbert. it. Roxy, if you like the professional, check out LaFemniquita. That is a good one.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Have you seen that? No. Who does it? I think it's Luke Basson. Yeah. Derek Johnson. Yeah, it's good. Christian, have you heard this news about Calcestis in live action?
Starting point is 01:47:31 Supposedly it's a standalone movie. So I report, no one's going to give me credit on it, Derek. I reported it on a Calcastis movie or show about two years ago. Look it up. And now people are reporting on it now. It's been into works for a long time. How'd you report on it? I heard about it from somebody.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Kyle Bexworth, going to be in New York City next week for New York Comic-Con, and I will see R.D.J.'s play McNeil. Christian, are you doing anything in New York Comic-Con? Hope everything is doing. Everyone's doing well. So I think that I'm going to, I'll definitely, I'm going to go to one of Josh Horowitz's panels, for sure. And then my daughter really wants to go, so I'm probably going to take her so she can cosplay.
Starting point is 01:48:11 I'm going to take her to one of the day. She's never been to a Comic-Con. Yeah, be a good father. come on yeah L.A. Comic-com was this weekend yeah is that where all the DC stuff came out of yeah a lot of it Yeah, okay because I I barely heard anything about LA Comic-Con there was some stuff and then like the obi-one story came out of that too Kyle Beckworth going to me know we did that already sorry so we're at 71 now guys you hit the seven I don't even know what the obi-one story is Essentially that there are conversations about doing more obvi-one stuff Yeah, Shay Markell I'll donate for that voice at least 20 minutes
Starting point is 01:48:45 No, please don't. Blake Gilbert, the original Nikita from 1990. I don't know. That's the one he's talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Todd Lane, is there any movies you guys like to rewatch with family and friends during spooky season? I think Bealjer's probably going to be one of those ones.
Starting point is 01:49:04 My wife does not like horror movies, but for some reason she loves, absolutely loves the Halloween movies. So there you go. Cool. What about you, Maggie? I just watched those. I didn't realize it was a Halloween movie, but I'm putting it on and I was like,
Starting point is 01:49:19 oh, this fits this. Oh, I haven't seen it. Yeah, it's a Halloween movie. It takes place Halloween. You haven't seen the guest rocks?
Starting point is 01:49:26 No. Dan Stevens? Oh, man, rocks. It's a good one. Isn't Brendan, Brennan,
Starting point is 01:49:31 Brennan, Meier. Brennan Meyers in that movie. Go on stuff. Top dog rate. For Roxy, have you watched the series interview with the vampire and AMC. Doreena can't shut up about it on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:49:42 This I know. Yeah. But, like, this is my thing and I told Dorena this. Dorena out of here and she's like, this is the best show on right now. And I'm like, babe, you watch one show.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Right. Right. She doesn't watch a lot of TV. I'm not saying it's not good. Right, but she doesn't have a lot of references. He's like, no, Roxy, this is the best show. And I'm like, you literally watch no television. You can't be out here as the authority of what's the best TV. You can say it's good. You can say it's good. Yeah. You can say it's my favorite show. Right. But I do hear it's good. I watched the pilot when it came out. and I thought that it was fine, but I hadn't seen the movie,
Starting point is 01:50:16 so I was like, I'll wait to watch the movie. But I hear that I'm going to like this better than I like the show, so I will watch this eventually. Okay. Michael Gustafan, it's the same one. What's a horror film you revisit every Halloween? For me, it's American Werewolf in London. That is a good one, American Werewolf from London.
Starting point is 01:50:31 That one used to scare the hell out of me as a kid, too. But yeah, for me, it's probably Beetlejuice. I like to do Nightmare before Christmas. Oh, yeah, that's my little one likes that one. I love watching that every Halloween season. I am Jack's 12. I didn't ask. I just said what I like.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Foghorn. Go, Mike. They really like this foghorn thing. He loves here in the foghorn. He comes here. I have to get more material. Yeah, I know you do. I love it.
Starting point is 01:50:57 Wow. Mirrenny Moon. You're going to try it in the bedroom and report back. Oh, I do declare. You know my good friend, though, as I say, I knew him back in the day. His name, he was in the army of Colonel. He was named Colonel Angus. Can I have to know of him, Rox.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Colonel Big Balls. Colonel Big Balls? High five, huh? Just suck my balls. That man comes down south quite often. He visits up to the north, but he stays down south. Who you? Who you? Who you?
Starting point is 01:51:27 Heading out with him a lot down there, but it gets hot. I like that Colonel Angus ignores big balls the same way that Roxy does. Who me? Wait a minute. Oh, fuck this shit. Oh, thanks, buddy. All right. I love that.
Starting point is 01:51:41 Okay, let's see. Justin Square, having Roka and Mike on together would be wild. How dare you? No more wild. No, no. He's got to get people what they want. No, he used wild. You get the outlaw and Kunilangis together.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Mirjam also says that the new interview with the vampire is much better. That's right here. Michael Merkel. Love the show. Mike, just got your James Bond book, and I love it so far. Who is your favorite Bond actor and top three out of five movies?
Starting point is 01:52:10 Mike. Well, if you got book. I don't want to spoil it for you, man. So what are you to say? Who's your, so who's your favorite bond? My favorite bond is Timothy Dalton, hands down. Okay, no doubt, no doubt, okay. But you'll read in the book, you'll find out why. All right. Uh, Roxy from Todd Lane. Thank you for getting it. Yeah, for sure. What TV show scared you the most, Roxy? Definitely some of the docu series that I watch.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Oh, yeah, it was like, I watch a lot of true crime. Yeah, yeah. Do you ever see that report about people that watch true crime shows? Yeah, that is like really not good for us. It's not good, and it also points out to the psychopaths watch those. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Shannon's a big fan of those kids. You're studying. I'm not, I don't feel like I fall in that category because I watch 120 shows a year.
Starting point is 01:52:55 You watch your television, you're a phenom when it comes to TV, right? Right, right. So I watch it a lot. I can't lump you into that. Shannon's my girlfriend, I can. Because some people just watch true crime shows. That's creepy as hell. That's creepy.
Starting point is 01:53:10 They just love it. It's true. Derek Johnson. I'll agree about the interview with vampire flushes out so much more about the story and honestly I didn't think I'd enjoy it but damn it's great story talking talking about the TV show TV show yeah um yeah people love it people love it sun zoo hey everyone hey Christian did you ever get any of the toys back from that wicked tree in the park I missed the follow up so what happened I went so I did go I went back to the tree
Starting point is 01:53:34 one day after like a storm was gone nothing was in the tree either somebody got it out or I got blown out with the wind or something but like I went back and it was gone. Would you see a tree? Would you one of your toys get stuck in a tree? That's a long story, but I don't have time for it. We just hit 80 rocks. Hit 80. Okay. What do you think realistically we can do in the next five minutes? Yeah, it's well, 150. Oh yeah, well, this shows 150. So we're going to go in the next 10 minutes, whatever it is. Well, maybe it's if we do. If not,
Starting point is 01:54:04 we're going to end the show. Derek Johnson. Maybe we hit 87. We'll see. Derek Johnson. Okay. real. What do we need to do to get the Christian voice, Southern Mike and Outlaw Roka having a free-for-all talking crap? I can't do it, Derek. There's no amount of money that would be worth doing that for a now. You're not giving the people what they want. Two hours to have that, to have that, and then whatever voice.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Be honest with me for a second. I'm not saying that they're going to give it or you're going to ask for it. There's no amount of money. To do a full show of what Roka. There's no amount of money. To have Roka as the outlaw the whole time. Me as well. It's just as Christian voice. I don't know. I guess that's big balls. And no one will watch that show.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Okay, but there's zero amount of money. $2,000. $2,000. There's a $2,000. It's a $2,000. I want to get it. Now that I know this is a Arab too, I'm going to get a white suit with a little bolo tie. Perfect. Growing up my mustache and offer mustache rods to the ladies. Oh, my God. If you mentioned it, and then we got to have to give us a flirt and flouse.
Starting point is 01:55:12 come out of retirement. Oh, God, can you come on now? I really, that's an all-star spectacular. That is to me,
Starting point is 01:55:18 to this day, the storyline that I'm most bummed about that did not come to fruition with the Jen Sturger stuff. Oh, it was the best. And she was so into it. That record label picture that you had in the office, that thing to me still with him.
Starting point is 01:55:34 I still have it. Was it David Hasseloff? It's on the, well, that picture is the best. It's the best. It's the best. Derek,
Starting point is 01:55:41 give the people what they want. the big balls voice. See? Yeah. So, yeah, that was, it was so good people. She was, they were supposed to be,
Starting point is 01:55:48 there was going to be the big romantic relationship. It was a flirt and flouse and Jen. And then she was going to steal all his money and leave him. And everybody, and the spectacular, we were going to do a whole thing where he was homeless on the streets. Eric Kirby, Hey, Christian,
Starting point is 01:56:02 when you get a chance, watch Eminem's temper. I saw it. Temporary video as a girl, Dad, you will cry. I've seen it. I've seen it. Did you guys see it?
Starting point is 01:56:09 No, and I'm like a diehard. You know, I'm obsessed with Eminem. I haven't watched this yet. Oh, my God. It's really, really good. It's like him and Haley, the whole thing,
Starting point is 01:56:16 and how she reveals that he's going to be a grandpa. That's so great. Yeah. I just haven't gotten around to it, but I will. Yeah. That's it, guys. We did it. You guys end the show today.
Starting point is 01:56:27 You don't know that. Well, so far before we sign up. You have to give a chance. You got to give a plug. You got to give us a chance. Give a long plug. I'll give you a plug and see if anybody puts anything. You got 82.
Starting point is 01:56:37 It's still pretty damn good. I mean, look, Winston and Coy have a shot. They do pretty well. Brett and Steph, you're probably going to beat them. But, but you're going to know. It depends. It depends on what, it depends on what kind of mood Brett's in. You never know, right?
Starting point is 01:56:54 But Steph, by the way, came up with a lot of different, that Saturday Night Live question we had, of the cast playing the members. She had some good ones. She would be the good one to have that. She's very, very SNL knowledgeable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we did that last week. Who did she come up with for herself?
Starting point is 01:57:10 Maya Rudolph. Yeah, that's what you used to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there were, Kristen Wig for you, Jason Sudeikis for me. That's a good one. Yeah. Who does she have? I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:57:22 There are other ones, but she had the whole list. It was pretty damn good. Is that it? Is there one more? Hey. All right. So, Roxy, give a plug. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:57:34 You guys can find me everywhere at Roxy Stryor. Wednesday night for the World Girl. Steph and I give things a whirl. and also if you can get your hands on crust right now, it's in theater that might be local to you, otherwise it comes out in November. Mike. At Mike Kallanowski, pretty straight and simple.
Starting point is 01:57:54 Nothing going on. If you're in Universal right now, if you're in L.A., go to Hollywood Horror Nights and see The Purge. That's pretty fun. I'd like to do that, but I can't. You weren't there the night that I went. I'm so sad. I know.
Starting point is 01:58:05 We have two casts, a three-day and a two-day day. I'm a three-day cast, and I wasn't there, Rox. I'm sorry. All right, neither was I. So, guys, thank you for joining us here today. I really appreciate it. It's been a fun, fun show. Lots of love from you guys.
Starting point is 01:58:21 Thanks for everybody who put out your questions. Thanks to everybody who is active in the chat. Make sure you check us out on Spotify, Apple Podcast. I am I out of the theater reaction for the new Florence Pew, Andrew Garfield movie tonight. And then I think that's it. So make sure you keep those comments coming. This week's the movie reaction, my little one got sick.
Starting point is 01:58:43 So my wife might not be here for the Agatha stuff. So I might have a little bit of delay and go back into two reactions a week next week. So look forward to it. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate it. We'll see you on the flip side. Bye.

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