The Kristian Harloff Show - UFO expert displays non-human alien bodies in Mexico's Congress! HOAX?

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

Join the website here! http://www.thekristianharloff.com  There was a big UAP hearing in Mexico where many witnesses and new UFO footage was shown. However the major story is that UFO expert Jamie Maussan revealed two supposed aline bodies that were over 1,000 years old. Ryan Graves has spoken about the apparent "stunt." and the mainstream media isn't covering it at all. On today's show things get a little heated as we discuss. Join Kristian Brett and Roxy for this episode of The Big Thing.

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And it doesn't matter whether or not you think a lot of this stuff that popped up is bogus or not. I have my thoughts on it, which we'll talk about. none of the mainstream media is talking about it again. It's a farce. It's an absolute farce. The fact that no one's even, even if someone says like, hey, the Mexican government

did a hearing for four hours. And it went through all this different things. And there are people on there to talk about it. And yada, yada, yada, yada. Not a word. It's utter nonsense now. But so we're just going to discuss that.

Some of the stuff that happened, yeah, they said that there was video of them releasing actual footage of bodies. But then, since then, pilot Ryan Graves, who has been one of the biggest advocates and biggest voices so far, one of the pilots that saw the UAP phenomenon has kind of spoken out against the Mexican hearings. And that's kind of my point. Whether you think they're legit or not, at least someone's talking about it. and as Ryan Graves. So let's get into it. Let's get into the show. It is the big thing.

Whatever the hell today is. Cool. Let's do it. All right. Welcome back, everybody to the big thing. It is Thursday. But the main thing that did drop was this hearing.

And I didn't even know what's happening because, again, it wasn't covered by anybody. And then a bunch of people like now include me on it because we talk about it every Tuesday. So I got this thing. So I got this thing. And it was like really, it was really jarring. I'm like, what, what's happening? And then they, the main thing that everyone's talking about with this hearing is the fact that they had this one particular guy who has presented bodies in the past that were deemed

not, he said they were from another world and they were proven not to be. Now, these particular bodies that he showed at this particular hearing have not been proven by anybody yet, the biology of the actual creatures that he showed. I will say they do look, they said they're over a thousand years old and they look mummified and they do look like something that Steven Spielberg would put in a movie. They're very E.T. They're very E.T.ish. It looks very kind of like someone made it in like a, in an art class or something along those lines. So it is very easy to be skeptical. The other reason that I

was very skeptical of it, even more so, was then Ryan, Graves, who is the pilot that we've talked about many times over, it's just like, look, I'm out there and I was asked to speak at this hearing, and I did, but this was kind of, what did he called it a farce, or he'll read his tweet. This is what he said on Twitter. He said, after the U.S. Congressional UFO hearing, I accepted an invitation to testify before the Mexican Congress, hoping to keep up the momentum of government interest in pilot experiences with UAPs. Unfortunately, yesterday's demonstration was a huge step backwards for the issue. My testimony centered on sharing my experience and the UAP reports I hear from from commercial and military air crew through

ASA's witness program. I will continue to raise awareness of UAP as an urgent matter of aerospace safety, national security, and science, but I'm deeply disappointed by this unsubstantiated stunt. Right. So that's that to me went, oof, right? Like, because they were leading the stuff that, I mean, they had Avi Lowe talked for a bit on yesterday that a lot of. of people talking in general, but this is the thing everyone's talking about because they're saying this is the actual substantial proof that this is, if, I mean, if they were able to prove that those bodies were of non-human origin, they were flying ships or whatever it was, and they're a thousand years old, I mean, it's the end of the conversation. So I don't know, Roxy. I'm, I am leaning more on

the side of, I think this guy, the guy who is showing these bodies is trying to, you know, gain from it. And I do think that the Ryan Gravesings does push me over that side of it. But what do you think? So after you, we were texting about this last night because, you know, Brett, you're into it too, but I think Christian and I are like just completely obsessed with this. And I was, after we were texting, I did my deep dive until three in the morning looking into this. stuff because it's it's truly world changing, life changing, you know, even on an individual level for our biggest fears as an individual, what's what happens after we die and why are we here, right? Like those are the questions that keep me up at night. And so anything I can do to try to

inform myself, that's worth me staying up until 3 a.m. So you immediately see these images of, as you described, Christian, look like these. E.T. phone home. Aliens. Their skulls are really big in the back. They did a deep demonstration in and it's all done in Spanish. But I did a translated version where they're going through where their organs would be placed and how they were mummified, what the white powder is on them, what this meant for their vision and their eyes, the fact that they're closer to bird-like or reptilian species than human because they don't have the same mammal makeup because they don't have the same amount of bone count, whatever.

So you're going into like, okay, what is this? And kind of like a UAP unidentified, to me, this is still unidentified. I don't know what this is. I'm not smart enough to know what this is. This isn't my genius, you know? And then I started hearing the things that you heard, Christian, too, that this isn't his first rodeo. Is this true?

But this is the Mexican government? I know. So it's so strange. Like, not like I'm sitting over here waving a flag being like the Mexican government is the best government, you know. All governments have serious issues. But why would they- It's still putting their reputation on the line. Right.

So like why would they present this? What do they know that we don't know or why do they believe this to be the case? It's just, it's hard for me to believe that there's no validity to this. And it's equally hard to believe that these are. laughing aliens. So I'm super torn. Yeah, Brett, I sent this to you last night. You were cracking jokes in the text. I ignored every one of your jokes. So what, what do you think of, did you tune in any of this? Or did you decide just fly by the CD? Once I found Avi was there and, and Graves, I was like, man, I'm, I'm there, maybe. No, I didn't know. I made a joke because Christian said that two people

were there that I didn't know who was talking about, because I haven't been into this. But, um, I kind of, I got honest with you, I just wanted to see these bodies. And as soon as I saw them, I was like, oh, come on. I know. Because they were pretty paper mache, uh, E.T. Like if they didn't look like anything I'd seen before, it almost would have made me, you know, it probably would have made me believe it more. But it's just like, do we, are we just going to stick with this look?

Is that the look we're going to go with for these guys? It's hard not to, it's hard not to understand that point of view. It really, like when you see the, people responding on Twitter. And honestly, it's hard for me to not have that point of view because I, of course, want to believe, right? Of course, I want to find out of the, but it's like, it's one of these things that like, if you get to a place, this is, this is kind of my, my frustration with all of this.

If I'm any government in general that keeps hearing about this stuff and you want to put it to sleep, like, all right, here's what we're going to do. Get the, get these guys. Let's, let's send a team in. we're going to do, let's do all of our experiments, everything that we need to do to this body. And let's just say, dude, this is something you guys made in a studio. This is something, this is, this is some kind of fossil that you found that has nothing to do with anything. It is proven that this is just bullshit.

But they don't do that. They don't even acknowledge it. I mean, it's like, you have to go on like, UAP Twitter in order to find any of this stuff. And it's like, even if it's complete nonsense, what I mean, look at all this stuff, whether it's Fox News or CNN or whatever it is, anytime someone on the opposing side of view says something that's not factual, oh man, they go after them. Like, they go after them. Let's say that they believe this is completely

non-factual. Why not talk about it? Why not say they just had a hearing for four hours in Mexico and they put ET bodies out there? What are they doing over there? They're never talking about it. What about the part, though, Christian? And Brad, I'm guessing you didn't see this. their UAP presentation with those with that count of those first it was four then it was eight then it was 12 um I'm going to call them like glowing globs that we saw on the yeah orbs thank you that we saw in the in the video and then that they come back two to three times a year to me that held more weight

in this hearing than the ETB. I'm like, that video tape. Yeah, you froze because it's virtual. But yes, I think that is the most, that is the most convincing stuff. And the thing that I think most people, if they showed it at another hearing, that you'd be like, oh, the same stuff that you see all the time.

But to me, that's more fascinating when you hear the pilots who are talking about what they see. It's similar to me, the grave stuff, the fraser stuff, like that's the similar stuff, but you're coming at it from a different country, right? But what I will say is that this is the type of thing, though,

that if other governments started doing more of, and if there was actual, first of all, I'm not going to completely discount. I'm on the side of the skeptic on this one that I don't believe that those are real bodies. Or I shouldn't say, I don't think they're alien bodies, I should say. But if the research was done on it,

and it turns out that it was, and it's confirmed that it was. This is the type of thing, though, that once other governments start to do it and do present it, and don't let the United States have the secrecy bubble and just say, well, we have this, you can't control our stuff on it,

and we're going to present it, here's what you have. It's over. There's nothing you can do from there on. And other governments start showing the things that they have. But, you know, this has to be proven either one of two things. It's got either proven right or wrong.

And I think that's probably what, Graves is probably what I would guess is that they probably have some insight that this is horse crap, this guy's trying to like sell whatever his exhibit or whatever he's trying to sell and Graves caught wind of it and you're like this guy's full of it, man, this is going to really set it back because this is not real. And Graves had to go out and say because Graves is legit and does want to find this stuff out. So, Christian, I'm with you that it's a big possibility. However, if this guy is not legit, that makes sense. to me, right? Sometimes humans do things for attention, for money, for whatever. Why would the Mexican

government do that? Pass them on? Yeah. I don't know. Unless they had done some form of research. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know the answer to that. I'm starting to like, you know, I go on, I was texting back and forth with DJ. Woolwood's last night about this too. And his like, and because I wanted to get the skeptic side of it too. And it was, he hadn't really was, he was, he was referencing the five-part documentary. I was like, no, no, no, there's new stuff here today. And so he didn't have all the information to it, but it just made me put that cap on to say,

who knows why certain governments do what they do? Like when, like maybe if they're, if they have this particular hearing and they have more interest in it, and like you said, those videos that they showed, I believe those are legit. I believe those are legit because of those actual hearing or sightings that pilots had and this,

I mean, this thing went on for four hours, or three and a half hours, rather. but it went on for a bit. But Brett, did you tune into any of this or check out any of it or no? I checked out when I saw the things. And I was with Roxy. The video was kind of hard to watch with the, but you found a better one, Roxy. Yeah.

So initially what Brett's talking about is the first video that Christian found that was the only one that was out there was this one guy in his room waiting for the hearings who doesn't speak Spanish. and they didn't know when the hearings were going to be live. So he's vamping for an hour, a full hour. And so I clicked on it because I was driving home. And so I'm not fasting forward. And I'm just listening to this guy who doesn't know what that he's talking about. And that's the problem too. I think that what Christian's doing is so great is he's not claiming he knows there are aliens,

doesn't know there. Like we're just talking about what the information. that's being presented is. A lot of these YouTube pundits and content creators right now are making claims that they cannot back up. So, you know, people are saying things like, now this is 100% proof that aliens were here. And it's like, no, no, that's not what that was.

And they're saying things like that. So listening to him for an hour, say, like, answer people's questions on whatever his version of Streamyard or Stream Labs was or whatever, super chats. He's like, yes, so they're doing the hearings and we'll see if this proves forever that aliens are here or whatever. And it can be hard to listen to. And if you don't know what's crap and what's not, you're not super involved, I do think Christian, that's one of the reasons this is not super accessible to the public yet because they're having to do so much of their own research just to sort through the month. I know.

And that's, I mean, there's tons. I'm looking at, there's tons of stuff. There's this video that has like 20 minutes of the close up examination of. the Mexican alien bodies. There's like all the, but it's like, what did you say? I did that. I looked at that. That's what was talking about.

What was the on them, the organs, the insides, why their eyes are like that, why their skulls are like that, what portion of their hands, the fact that they didn't have thumbs. That would mean that they claw like birds. Like, it went really in depth. Yeah. And there's a, there's a Twitter account that says all this begs the question. Why would the Mexican Congress state such an appalling bad hoax at all? why now.

Right. Yeah. So I don't know. And then there's another, there's another thing, NASA is going to be announcing all their, like they're going to be putting out a bunch of data finally. People have been leaning on NASA to do stuff too. So who knows what's going to come out in their report? Is it just that they want to be popular for lack of better words?

Like, did they see that the U.S. got a lot of views and they were like, what's our version of that and how do we want up that? I just can't picture a government. Doing that. It just seems like it would be so easily debunked and you would look like idiots. What would it take for you to get invested in this or for you to start paying attention? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like I did look over the articles that Christian sent and the one that was saying that the guy had the past had done something like with bovine.

You know, they found out just pieces of cow or something like that is what did I gather. That's a bovine means, I think. But like, I don't know, I just, right now, it's just, it's blurry, blurry pictures of things and blurry videos. And I don't know, it's just, it's not enough for me to get excited about it. So what would be? What would you see or hear that would be like, okay, now actually I think this is worth my time because I believe that this is worth everybody's time. I think something that comes out that like everybody can agree that. they saw like, you know, some sort of, uh, the sameness to, you know, like the, the Mexican one

looks the same as the European one is the same as that like if, if they're all, and they, maybe they don't look like the, the ET that we think about it. I'm not, and again, I'm not, I believe that there's something. It did to not believe that there's something else out there, I think is silly because we are a tiny speck in a giant galaxy, you know, It's just I feel like If it'd been going on for this long, there would be more concrete evidence Unless there is a huge cover up Yeah, I don't agree with that.

There's definitely a huge cover up. But that goes back to it. Again, this is not a shot at you. This is just something that continues to happen all the time. You haven't listened to any of the documentaries. You haven't listened to any of the stuff, the things like, and again, not that you would believe any of stuff. But when you say, like, oh, if they went out of this concrete evidence,

Brett, what's your opinion on the O'Hare incident that happened? Oh, that one. I know. I know of that one. What's your opinion on the nuclear power plant won in the 1960s? That was my favorite. Right. That's my point.

My point is that people, you know, when they have these kind of, and I, someone yesterday said it on our show, they have these blanket statements of all they, well, they would have all this evidence. They would have all this things. They have the fucking stuff. They have a lot of these things, but a lot of it is hidden. A lot of it is. And I'm not talking about an alien body.

I'm talking about just more concrete satellite images, NASA stuff, other things like that, things that have been out there in general from the stuff that has been just fascinating that's been hidden. It's just that because of the stigma that's behind it and the other things that are happening because it's the same, the reason why, if it seems like I'm going to frustrate with you, Brett, it's just it's not, it's more so of just you are, you're just part of the same conversation that the same people have when they don't have the information. When people, like this is why I'm excited to have DJ on the show on, on,

Tuesday because he watched the five-part series. He didn't become a, he was more of a skeptic than he ever was. But he's got information that he can combat it with now. And to me, that's more of a healthy conversation in general. They're like, well, if, you know, if we've been out there this long, we'd have evidence, how do you know that?

All the stuff that has happened, all the different things that have been, you know, we don't have. The other thing I will say about the Mexico thing is I think about it, though, too. There is a possibility, Roxy, and I'm curious to hear what you think. Because Ryan Graves didn't know they were going to do this stunt.

you know, this thing. Is it possible? Hear me out here. Yeah. That there was something inside of this where it was like in coordination with the organization at whatever it was for the states that does this that says, hey, present this stuff at the end. Because it does set it back tremendously. It does if it's fake and it's not real, it makes it look like it adds to Brett's skepticism.

It really does. So is there any way that they were in cahoots? You're saying who's in Kazoo's saying present this, people who don't want people to know that this is real? The people putting on the Mexican hearings, like at the very end of this thing, have these things, have all the testimonies with the end of it, have this guy come out, present this, the paper.

And then it looks like a complete goof. I'm like, why have graves there at all, right? Right. They're contradicting themselves. I don't think that what you're saying is out of the realm possibility because I do think that everybody that when I say why would the Mexican government do this? I'm not saying the Mexican government would never do that. What I am saying is genuinely why. So then we have to think about why. All governments right now are trying to protect their people

theoretically, right? Trying to protect their people first, the globe second. And so people are making in governments are making choices, the U.S. government included, that they believe will protect their people because of whatever reason. Because we don't have all the information. Can I tell you that what you're saying is wrong? No, but I also can't say that it's right. I think that going back also to a couple of different things, number one, to Brett's point about them looking like ET, a lot of people are saying this online. But what I will say is that Spielberg and the best movie makers don't just design aliens and creatures out of thin air. They have looked into what people have said that they have cited in the past.

It is very possible that these aliens don't look like E.T. E.T. looks like these aliens. You think about different cases that have happened throughout the years. And I'm not saying these specific aliens because I don't know about these aliens. But I think that there have been sightings and then art imitation. life and then life re-imitates art right like there a lot of times they talk about how when a new movie comes out that's what the sightings seem to look like those you a the crafts in the movies is what people are seeing they see things that are the same color the same shape or whatever as they see

in the movies but also the movies are borrowing from sightings previous sightings so it it's not crazy to think that aliens would have big eyes they research things to make a decision decision that they might be living in the dark. This has been the way people have spotted things before, you know, like sometimes just saying it looks like E.T. Yeah, but what does E.T. look like? It looks like things that have come up in the past. So I think that. And then also, Christian, you had mentioned, you know, I'm not saying there's alien bodies, but that is what Grush said, unrelated to this.

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Is there anything else that we need to talk about inside of this? I know Brett, you've been very mouthy on the subject. So if you want to keep ramping about it, you can. Yeah, you got real defensive there. I just looked up O'Hare and I saw blurry pick of a disc in the background. Was that what you're talking about as concrete evidence? Or I'm just...

Okay. Go back into what it was. But like I said, I'm not talking about concrete evidence. I'm talking about knowing the facts and knowing that... About what it was, you know, about the Zimbabwe case, the, you know, the Varsinia case, the nuclear cases that have happened, the Australia case. Like, there's the Japan pilot in 1985, you know, like, Do you believe in Bigfoot?

See, this is... No, I'm just asking you for real. I do not because I don't have concrete... Again, to me, when you listen to the actual... To you, there's certain, for you, there's a level of concrete evidence that I think that you're expecting versus what I'm expecting. But no, but you...

I'm saying that like, I've heard a lot of different and seen some of these images and things. And, you know, again, it's not... For me to get on board with it, it's not enough yet. But what's your theory? I asked, so I did set Brett up for failure here because I asked him, what would it take? And then he answered, and then Christian wasn't satisfied with this answer. And neither was I, to be honest.

But I think it's fair that you answer the question. But what's your theory then, Brett? So they're all blurry. You don't, you think they're all blurry. Real quick, before you get into that, the thing is that, too, I don't believe that there's also concrete evidence yet at all. So that's that is where you're mistaken. My point is that I think that there's enough out there that there needs to be more questions answered. Like when you listen to all the different, because I've heard all the different military experts who have spoken about this.

That's what that's what won me over was that it was military. Why are these military people risking their career to talk about the things that they had, the things that they've seen, the interviews that have been out there, the cases in general, right? Oh, because the military pays shit. That's why. What does that mean? He's saying they're making money off of it. Yeah, they're making money.

I'm just being the devil's advocate. But again, a lot of these people are not making money on this stuff. Some of them are. There's no doubt about it. Some of them are selling books and things of that nature. And it's another, it is. It's just like it feels like people that aren't educated about it are like sent a book and say like, well, they're going to pay for it. It's also because they want to have a.

distraction in the media. If I can't see it, it's blurry. We have phones now. Why can't we take pictures? It's the same stupid answers, the stock questions that like, again, that don't have any merit to it, where if you, again, if you told me,

you listen to all the testimony of all these different things. And then you had retorts after that, I would take that, I would take that more seriously because it's like the same thing where you're watching everything and you understand, if you're like, okay, instead of saying, oh, I just Googled the O'Hare thing, and I saw blurry image.

That's the concrete evidence. You're obviously, this is like having an argument with somebody who's like a hardcore Christian. Like you, this is what's happening right now. You have, you've decided this is fact and you've decided.

I have nuts. You're not listening. Hold on. I told you for me what I would need. This is where I'm confused. No, this is where I'm confused. This is why I was asking Brett my question.

We theoretically are all on the same page. that we don't know what's happening. Yeah, true. All three of us, we don't know what these are. We don't know what the UAPs are. So that's why I was asking you, Brett, because I think Christian is the first to say, I don't know what this is.

Does he theorize like I do? Yes, do we talk about interdimensional travel and let our minds wander and think about different ways that we don't know how science works fully so things can happen. Yes, we theorize. eyes, but nobody's saying this is what is happening. So that's why

I'm kind of curious from you, like if you are sure that these are just blurry images and they're nothing, then what is it to you? Like, can you identify what's at O'Hare? Because all the things, we can't. Yeah, I think both of you have taken what I've

said to the extreme of like, I'm saying for me, the evidence that I've seen, I haven't gone out. It hasn't made me want to go into it more. It hasn't made me want to watch the documentary. So I am not where you're at because you actually have an interest in it. I don't.

This stuff doesn't interest me until I see a body that everybody in the country said that's an alien and there's no chance. That's just personally for me. I've got other things I think about in the world and stuff like that. But I think I will take offense to Christian going like, it's just these uneducated people that go, the pictures are blurry. That's not me. I'm saying I'm not interested in this subject in a way to go down into a deep dive. That's a different thing than what you said before, though. That's a different thing than what you said before.

But you said the uneducated as soon as I said that I didn't have enough evidence for me, you went on a rant about what you've heard other people in the chat say and took what I was saying as something. Because you're repeating the same hyperbole that a lot of them say. And like, that's my point. But I'm also didn't say like you're wrong and you shouldn't be into it. But first of all, that's what those people are. A lot of those people are saying that. I didn't tell you should be into it until you should believe.

What I'm telling you, that's not, that's not what I'm saying. No, no, no. I'm saying you, I, the trolls that are saying these things are also saying, you guys are falling for stupid shit. I didn't say you were falling for stupid shit. I said for me. Yes, but the way, there's different. In my opinion, it's not enough.

Does that make sense or that. that that that that does but that's not what you were saying before but like that that that particular that particular point of what you just made sure i don't for me what you're saying is i haven't seen enough that i get interested in it so i'm not as as into it and want to find out all the facts as you guys do that's a different thing from what you're saying as when i say to you know do you know about the oherence and you know about these things you go oh i just googled it and looked and is that that blurry thing is that proof first of all i'm not saying it's shit i'm saying do you know the details of everything that happened within it with the the the amount of of the workers, the thing that happened in Hudson, by the way. There's an entire town that saw it, and they're all collaborating. And as Roxy said, like, what is it? What you're saying is different, and it's fair. You're saying, I don't really give a shit. And that's a different thing.

Well, that was, that was, I looked up the O'Hare thing because I was feeling attacked. And that's why I looked. I was like, well, you got, do you know about O'Hare? Well, I should open up O'Hare and it should be like national news. No, you took that wrong. You took that as if I was telling you, O'Hare is proof. That's not what I was saying. What I was telling you is that the amount of questions that should be asked about all of these incidents is the stuff that I'm talking about.

I'm just talking about the fact that questions should be asked, hence why they had a hearing. That's my thing. It's more about the questions. I'm not telling you there's any concrete proof yet. All I'm saying is there's enough to ask a lot of questions. I don't have any of the proof yet, and I don't disagree that I wish that there was way more clarity in satellite images and things that nature. What I'm saying is that there's always stock questions that come in with like, well, if I can't see it, and the thing that set me off is the thing that I keep hearing a million times over.

And it's like, well, we have enough cameras and we have everything now that we would know that if they were here. And we would see it. We would know. And it's like, no, we wouldn't. And that's my point. Like if you had all that information of all the things that they talk about, that's when you go, oh, all right, well, maybe they are. Because you said it inside of that statement.

You said, well, unless there's a big cover up, that's what this whole thing is about. is the fact that there could be a cover-up. So let's talk for a second about something because I know that we have kind of washed it from our mind because of what graves said, and because it seems so crazy. But what if those bodies are real? What if they do, like, forensics is the wrong word,

but will we ever know? I think we could know that they're not real, right? They could find cow like Brett talked about in previous things. Like if the, if extensive research is done, if they let, I don't know, people from other governments, check it out, whatever it is, then what? For a lot of people, I would say there's going to still be skepticism because there are still people that, you know, no offense, believe the earth is 2,000 years old and that carbon dating is all bullshit. So, I mean, they're, the proving that to a certain group of people would be very difficult. but I think it would open up the conversation more to some people that are on the fence, I guess, like me, as if they said, no, we've had scientists from around the world, they've studied this,

there's nothing in here that is human of any form, then I'd be like, mer. But that's what the frustrating thing is. And that's where I do understand where all the type of skepticism comes from, because the frustrating thing for me is always, I think it's a fair question. I ask if you haven't been paying attention to it. And you have it. It's like, why is everything always blurry? Why is everything this? Why don't they have any concrete evidence? I think it's fair questions to ask.

But then like when you get the answer from a lot of, not you, but a lot of people who are like, oh yeah, right. That's always what it comes to. It's like, well, did you pay attention to it? There's one thing, you gave the best answer yet that anyone I've had, because you said, I just don't give a shit. I don't care. Like, that to me is the most fair answer you can give,

as opposed to there's other people who just feel like they know the answers. They know the answers because they can't trust the government because it's bucked the system and all that stuff. That's a different thing. You were about as honest as it gets. You're like, I'm not going to watch any of this stuff. I'm like, because I don't want to not care. I'm just, I'm not quite, I'm not ready for that rabbit hole. And it's not something that's really sparked me.

And maybe if I caught maybe one of these documentaries, it might might hook me. But yeah, it's just it's something. I do think about it, but I don't think about it a lot. Yeah, I get it. I understand that. It's just like they said, it's more about, to me, it's just the matter of how, how it's broached on both the side of people who want to believe, and then there's this side of the people who I think should broach it that,

that don't believe. And I think that intelligent conversation comes from it, and things can actually be settled or not settled, but you can get places with level-headed conversation on both sides of it. And I think there was an interview Roxy that James Fox had right after the hearings. And he was on a show that was very skeptic. And at first he came in kind of, that's what you saw just before, Brett and I. And he was going in the same way.

And then it kind of leveled out. And he listened to the guy. And the guy was like, no, I actually admire your work. It's just I'm just not, I'm just not on board. But the guy did watch all the movies. He had all the questions. He had a conversation to where he could bring up a certain fact. Well, this guy in the past has said this.

and what's any different now. And they had this kind of back and forth kind of ping pong match. That was fascinating to watch because I don't want to, I mean, that's one of the reasons I want to have DJ on on Monday, right? It's because Riley and I are on the same page. And as we theorize and we talk about things and it's like, there has to be that other point of view from time to time that goes,

well, what about this? And if you're educated on it, I want to have that conversation when it's just kind of blind questions. I don't think it furthers anything. A lot of what DJ is going to talk about, I assume is something that has been talked about recently. There was the, we haven't, and I'm sure he spoke about this with Riley, but there was that whole grush doc that came out for the extra video.

And what DJ really harps on is where is the money coming from to investigate certain things? Where is the money coming for research? Where is the money coming? And he thinks that people have outside motive based on where, you know, these billionaires are funding things. but I do also think that while I'm not sitting here standing up for the billionaires, but they're the ones who have everything else set. My theory on why Brett doesn't give that much of a shit is that Brett has children,

Brett has family that he has to feed, Brett has multiple different jobs, Brett has so many hours in a day. Billionaires have all of their needs taken care of, so their minds are kind of allowed to be like, but why don't we travel to space? And why don't know, use my money to look into these things? That doesn't mean that they're giving false information. It just means that they have the money to.

So DJ is always coming from. Where's the money coming from? And it's a fair question. You know, like Elon Musk was very, very vocal about the fact that he thinks we're in a simulation. He will scound the rooftops. Elon Musk thinks that we are in a simulation. He is one of the richest people on the planet. and that is what he believes.

Can I tell you something though real quick? Hold your point there. This was a fascinating thing to me because I mentioned it on the show with Riley. The Y Files is a YouTube channel that you'd really like, Brox, you should check it out. But he actually did a whole video on simulation theory. Surprisingly enough,

more physicists and more scientists believe in the simulation theory than life on other planets. Most scientists think, I think Neil deGrasse Tyson thinks that it's like a not I think some scientists think it's like a 70 30 chance that we are. He thinks it's like a 50-50. Those odds are high. And the breakdown and explanation of why we're in a simulation theory in general was crazy to me.

I was like, I thought that's something that came from the Matrix. And then listen to all the actual scientists and people who are way smarter than the three of us are like, you know, this is most like. likely a thing. That was mind-blowing to me. Yeah, for me, I don't know that much about it. I've looked into a little bit. And for me, it's just not helpful with how I live my day-to-day life to believe that. So that's just not what I'm choosing to go down that rabbit hole. But that doesn't mean it's not real. It just means like, what good is that information to me, really? That's how Brett feels about this. Not even keep you mad at joking. That's how Brett feels about this. Right. I feel the opposite of Brett about this, though. I feel like,

If we knew that there was life outside of this planet, which I do feel like everybody does know, it's not like who really at this point believes that Earth is the only one with any life form. That's crazy. But if there is life outside this planet and they have contacted us in some way or been here, it just makes me feel better about my existence. It makes me feel like there could be something next or that there is more to all of this. You know, that makes me feel better. So the more I learn about it, the more I figure out about it, I don't believe in God.

I do believe in aliens. And that is, and that helps me. It just does. So anyway, though, going back to the Elon thing, I understand DJ and people like DJ's hesitancy when they see that a lot of the research is coming from people that we believe are really rich who are trying to prove their own point to we might think are cuckoo bananas. It's just a broken clock is also right twice a day.

And just because somebody is a billionaire funding something, doesn't mean that it's not real. It's true. And look, the other side of that with the money side of it is that these programs, this is the whole thing they were trying to figure out of the hearing. And one of the things they said in that doc with Grush was that there was a military guy wrote that, you remember this, Roxy in the two hours, the recent doc that they did. There's a military guy who wrote when all the stuff was happening, Roswell, all these things. And he wrote, the best thing that could continue on with this is to make sure the, the,

funding that would have to, that the government would have to spend on this to be astronomical. It needs to come from independent sources. It needs to come from outside of government. It needs to be private. And that's exactly what they're insinuating is going on. So they insinuated at the hearing. And that was from 60, 70 years ago that this guy had suggested it. And that's exactly what they have done if you believe from what Grush is talking about, what you believe, like some of the senators were insinuating like these programs. So that's kind of what I met Brett overall with these kind of potential cover-ups where I said, I don't know it. Like I believe certain things.

I don't know it. I don't have any concrete evidence on all of it. I just think, like I said, I just think there's enough to ask a lot of questions. But we should tap into our insane education budget in this country and a hole from that one. For real. There's another one that has a lot of money. We should. What about that military budget?

Oh, that's the one. That's the one. A trillion dollars are missing. That's that's right, Roxy. I have, real quick. Oh, could I, real quick. Yeah, yeah. I am more excited about the simulation thing than I am the UFOs.

That makes sense. Honestly, if I were to like die and they're like, hey, that was a simulation, I'd be like, oh, thank God. Watch, I'm telling you, if that's something that you are actually interested in, check out this episode of the Y files on YouTube. And he breaks this thing down. He has all these different scientists that are inside of the report. It's it was it was crazy. I couldn't I couldn't get jacked into a certain part of my like again. They're like, what do you want to do?

I'm like, can I go when my kids are like six and four? Right. Well, the way that they said this though, do the way they said it, it's like imagine right now with the way virtual reality is. Like virtual reality right now. When you put it on, you're very aware that the outside world is outside.

But when you're in it and that's why certain people when they're, you swing it to you and you move your hands. And like, what if that's like the worst Atari 1983 version of virtual reality and what's virtual reality going to look like in 500 years from now. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

So couldn't it essentially look like this and that you'd be locked into it? This is what they said inside the thing. I don't know. I don't really. I'm not there. I'm just saying what the potentially the theory is. It's not crazy to think about it. Like if like think about like if a thousand years from now,

virtual reality from what it is today into if people are working on it for a thousand years it is possible that this could essentially you don't you don't even know that you're in it I mean it's possible so it's a world in a nuclear war in 1980 right and then they

created the simulation to keep everything going there's my theory I'm sticking to it all right I'm not saying it's wrong I'm just saying I don't want to hear about it don't want to know about it What are you at? What are we going to ask? It's my question for you, Christian.

So going back to the grush dock that came out, this might be something that you have not even heard anything about. But there was one part in the dock that focuses on the assassination of JFK. Yeah, I saw that. And about how JFK had reached out for. Supposedly. Yes, supposedly. There was emails that they said existed, but whatever.

Not emails, but are written. Yeah, yeah. There were emails from JFK. There are emails. No, sorry, memos. He wrote a lot of emails. He invented email, then he wrote it. The aliens helped him with it.

Where are the emails, JFK? There are memos of him asking for files on UAPs, apparently, UFOs at the time or whatever. And that there's a theory that that is part of why his assassination happened. The government assassinated him. Now, going back to what I've told you about in the past, Christian, about my, and I just had this to you two, Brett, about the way I grew up. The two things in the world that my dad cared about the most are the assassination of JFK and aliens. Right. It's all we talk about in my household.

I mean, like, it's all, every theory on what happened with JFK, which three-lettered government organization ended up actually killing him. Who took the fall? The disappearing bullet. Everything with that. combining these two things, I was like, oh, my God, my dad's probably going to have a field day with this. Do you think that there's any merit to, and again, of course, you don't know the answer to this? Do you think that there's any merit to JFK being assassinated because he had some kind of knowledge or was curious about UIAPs? It's merit to it, but I mean, do I, how realistic do I think it is?

I don't know. I don't know how realistic that, that email was. I don't know how realistic that memo was because they said, and they said in the doc that they reached out to the guy five times she was able to kind of try to declassify it or whatever to and he never responded to them. So I don't know. I mean, it's, it's, there's also a lot of the stuff that he was doing with the Vietnam War,

you know, trying to like prevent him and other things that CIA was very much so wanted to make sure it happened and other things happened. So there were a lot of other things that he was involved. in that the powers at B didn't want him to be involved in that wasn't just aliens that could have caused what it did um i still i i am under i think oswald was involved i don't think he acted alone i just don't i still don't understand and i think people have talked about the physics of it how someone goes like this and goes like this when they're shot from the back i i don't understand that i think

people have have tried to explain that and i think that every time they have i've never really understood it helped like does anybody have an answer to that like to where like you first go like this and then when you get shot in the back of the head you go like you go like this what why right yeah you're talking about common sense yeah but i didn't understand and you know there'll be comments to people who are going to explain it and i've had people try to explain it to me and it just doesn't make sense i do think i think that the i'm a patsy thing i think it was more so like oh shit they're pointing the finger at me solely now uh i have to pretend that it's, you know, I think he was involved.

I definitely think he was involved. I don't think he just kind of happened to be there. He was, he was involved. I think that the JFK movie that Stone did was a, was a bit fantastical. Awesome. But, uh, but yeah, whether or not he was involved, there is stuff that he has asked about stuff. The other things were,

there's another question. Look, they, they link everything to this stuff now. They linked it to Marilyn and Rose, is apparent assassination, right? They said that she was talking, things that she would reveal about UFOs. That's been another documentary. So when it comes to this stuff,

let's not also pretend as much as I love thinking that, you know, we should have all the answers. There are a lot of people, as I think Brett brought up before, too, that do just want to profit on this stuff. And it's not like every single person who has a testimony is telling the truth. There are absolute people who are just looking, as I think they said in the doctor,

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JFK didn't, I think the alien government got him got JFK because he got too close. I think the cover up is from the alien government and not our government. They're sweat wiping all the stuff. They're sweat wiping? They're swiping. And we all know that JFK was a huge methamphetamine user, right? He used to go to a doctor called Dr. Feel Good that would give him this vitamin shot. Did you ever hear?

Yeah, he loved it. It was the best. I think they did a full he did a full document he he did he jfk did a YouTube video about it. yeah he emailed he he made he emailed he had his he had a TikTok account and he did everything he did the whole no but look that up that's a real thing um what is it the alien what the guy called they called in hollywood or i you know or dr field good yeah yeah i feel good was a guy who did vitamin shots and they found out that he gave him to a lot of stars and to jfk and they had uh met It had methamphetamines in it.

Oh, okay, good for him. Back check me, people. If I'm wrong, I don't care. That one I probably believe you on. Did you guys see the responses we got from some of the people on the Gary Busey thing? No. Roxy, did you? I certainly did, Christian.

So funny. I didn't even know about that situation. However, it was just so not relevant to what we were talking about. And it's not like we were doing some big pro-Bucy. I thought that was fascinating. They're so silly. So basically what happened, there was a,

to be fair to those people, the people inside of the episode we did, there was a lot of comments on the full episode because I think you got the full extent of what we were doing. But in the short form, people were writing, like there was some of,

this isn't funny. You guys, this isn't funny. I'm like, we're not laughing and saying, good for you, Busey. We're saying,

this guy is just on planet. Yeah. Venus. And this, I mean, yeah, of course, they're like, well, doing you for the woman? Of course. And guess what? She got her revenge.

She put the video out there and there's no world where anyone is not going to look at that. If she sues him and goes, he hit my car. It was Gary Buthy and then he took off. It's on video. It doesn't take away from the comedy of the scene. I take nothing away from laughing at that. Although a lot of people were saying that she shouldn't have been filming then and that that would get her in trouble with her insurance as well. why oh because he was because she well but she was filming after she got hit yeah i don't know

she was arriving and i would have i would have done the same thing like i'm not saying i wouldn't have just i don't know how insurance she was she was 100% in the right she was i absolutely felt bad for her but i also felt like this was how do you if that was a movie scene if that was a movie scene played by a comedic actor you would have been laughing your ass off and That's the whole, that's, that's the things. Like, she wasn't hurt. She got it on video. She put it out there.

I, I regret nothing. I regret nothing. It was hilarious and I'm glad that she's okay. And I'm glad that she's going to get. What somebody also wrote though, and I mentioned this, the room was like, he's worth so much money. And he should be, you know, well, first of all, I don't know how much money he's worth. I don't know if he's. That's what I asked you in the episode.

So during that's a nice idea of money. I don't think he's balanced out as money very well. Oh, yeah. I'm sure he's good with money. She's and she's, she's said, well, if I,

I, I Google that and he, it says he's worth one point, whatever million. And I'm like, if you Google me, it'll tell you that I'm worth 1.1 million. Yeah.

I'm not. It says I'm worth three to five million on Google. Right. I love that for me. Right. Right. That's, that's,

that's the, That's the simulation multiverse theory. Busey's on my algorithm now. I just saw he, I guess he performed with a band in 75 on SNL. You got to look that one up. Yeah, he was a lead singer and guitarist.

I don't know. I can't remember the band name. Someone made him do a cameo recently saying that he was John Stamos. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. And it's like, he's, he knows what he's doing.

And doesn't at the same. time. What? What? What? But butter saucers. You see that Jeff Richards actually, so good. But he responded to, we posted that video and he responded on Instagram. He did? Yeah, that's funny. Anyway, all right, this is, we, you got some kind of episode out of this today. Yeah. Jesus. This was like gloves off. Christian just attacking me when I'd make just a blanket statement. You one of those people? Tacking me. I was just I was just speaking my opinion and I was attacked.

That was not your opinion. It's your truth, Brett. Yes, it's my truth. Great show. All right. So thanks for joining us on the episode. Thanks for Brett. Thanks for Roxy.

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