The Kristian Harloff Show - UFO Insider says floodgates of information to come out in 2024!
Episode Date: October 18, 2023PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow The UAP phenomenon continues. There is a huge interview with renowned UFO reporter George Knapp who famously interviewed Bob Lazar. N...ews Nation has aired an interview with him. What should we expect? Lue Elizondo who was instrumental in having the NY Times article get the information for the secret UFO program has been very active getting the truth to the world. He tweets out that there is a TON of new information coming out in the next six months to a year. He and others are saying the same thing. What is it? More whistleblowers? Photos? What is it? We look at some new video to see what looks legit and what stinks. This and more on The UAP Tuesday Big Thing edition with Kristian Harloff and Mark Reilly.
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It's all about George Knapp.
What is going on?
There's going to be a new news nation,
a full-on thing about everything that George Knapp has done
inside of his career.
And now how, because of everything
that's been going on with the David Grushes of the world
and the new potential whistleblowers coming out,
that they're now going to be talking more about what Knapp knows.
There's more stuff going on out.
out there.
There's some more footage that Riley and I will look at like we did last week.
And will there be a second hearing?
We're going to talk about that a little bit more to where everything going on as far as
the Speaker of the House and all that is we touched on it briefly last week.
Does it mean that if, you know, the powers that be get their way and get the person in
the Speaker of the House that they want, will that mean that we're going to get a second
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myself
Mark
Yodius Rylius
Christian good to be here
as always
aliens
aliens and stuff
have they seen Barbie yet
they probably
they probably made it
yeah
it's interesting
man I mean look
it's a lot
going on
in the world right now
and
rightfully so
we're not going to hear
a lot about any
UAP UFO stuff
for a little bit
with the government
for a bit.
No.
But we did get Bigfoot footage.
Yeah.
Yes, I did.
And I loved it.
What is?
It looked like Bigfoot sitting down.
Like it...
You believe in the Bigfoot, though, right?
I don't know what to think about Bigfoot.
It's so I love Harry and the Henderson.
It's one of my favorites.
I just don't understand.
That, to me...
That was a dude in a suit.
That's what I think.
That's what I think.
So because here's the thing.
Here's the difference.
They know that thing is going there.
They go, I'm going to set up a viral video.
And, you know, you put on a good suit, you sweat your balls off for it.
And they're like, yeah, I got him.
I got him, Nick.
He just, yeah, he's just, sat down.
But here's the thing, though, is that for people, you know, that.
And nothing against people who believe in it.
And that's fine.
Obviously, you guys are talking about UAPs.
I know.
But there's not the irony in it.
Because here's the difference.
The difference is we're covering the land.
We can get a lot of stuff on the land.
I think so.
If you can cover majority of stuff in the land
that these big things are walking around.
And I know how, I know how, because we're talking about,
you all foes and everything, too.
But the difference is the sky and the water
are like uncharted a lot of these things.
A lot of the things in the ocean where these things
are zipping around and moving as fast.
as they can the skies.
It's more feasible.
Things can be zipping around out there
that you can't catch
because of the technology
as opposed to a big...
Where do they go?
I'll go one further, Christian.
There's no government released footage
of Bigfoot or hearings happening.
Not if you believe in that train station video.
I mean, that's a video of something.
Something.
And I can...
It's harder.
Like, a dude is not going to dress up
in a bigfoot costume and fly in the sky.
Right.
You know.
You're not going to have a New York Times cover it
and all this stuff.
It's like who, I mean.
But I'm absolutely open to believing
because I want to believe.
I want to believe in Loch Ness.
I want to believe in the,
in Yetis and the bombardable snowmen.
And tomorrow Hogwarts is the real thing.
Right.
I mean,
that's what we're talking about.
And that's what always for me
is that stigma because the big foot
is put into the same category as the UAP.
Sure.
And that is what.
where I differ.
Don't you think less though?
Do anything a little less now?
Now, yes, absolutely less.
I think less now.
I think about...
That's why I say, yeah, the government stuff,
the hearings, there's smoke, there's fire, that kind of thing.
I think it's a very valid point, though.
I think five years ago, what's the difference?
Right.
Five years or what's the difference?
Yeah.
Right.
I would have, absolutely, because five years ago,
more of them five years ago, I've referenced it all the time.
My siding, I went, that's something.
I didn't go scream from the rooftops,
but then when that footage we saw on Collider Live,
when that thing was released.
I'm like, maybe.
Come on.
And, yeah, there's just too many people kind of coming out,
making reports.
And that goes into this thing we're talking about with George Knapp.
Yeah.
All right, News Nation is going to be doing a big report on George Knapp.
So he's been a UFO reporter for a long time,
Area 51 whistleblower retaliation inside the files of UFO reporter, George Knapp.
Knapp said that his journey into the UFO discovery began with a coin flip.
His coverage resulted in dozens of awards,
including Murrow and AP Prizes for every 200 UFO sightings,
the Air Force can explain away 201 of them.
A July 223 bombshelled congressional hearing made waves across the world,
but one investigative of a journalist has been sounding the alarm on UFO secrets for decades.
For the first time, News Nation is going to bring an unprecedented access to the files,
a legendary television reporter George Knapp.
I have secret stashes of files and things all over the stations at NAP.
of evidence compiled from the government's own files.
It took a long time to be able to sit down with that.
He says he gets multiple interview requests per day.
It's at his office at News Nation affiliate KLASTV,
where he's worked for decades that we began.
So this has been my office.
Amazingly, they let me keep it all these years.
I have secret stashes and files and things all over the station
because I'm a pack rat and I keep everything.
This is where a lot of the stories that we did were created.
We were the unofficial UFO research capital of the world.
All of these things have come out over the last couple of years and they've stated right here.
Now, what ended up bringing NAP to Vegas decades ago came down to chance.
He flipped a coin.
He was living in Northern California and he had been the debate coach at UC Berkeley and he's tired of being broke.
He had to do something.
So he met all these crazy bartenders from Vegas and they told him about this town and he said,
hey, you can write.
You're a speaker.
We know a guy in television can get a job there.
So I moved there.
He had never even heard of Area 51 before he moved to the desert.
We've done so many stories.
You know, when I moved to Las Vegas, I didn't know that there was an area 51.
I didn't know there was Nevada test site, the most nuked place in the world.
This is the center of the heart of the nuclear testing.
But before we got a shot at reporting, he drove a cab while working as a part-time production assistant at the local PBS affiliate at night.
I was the worst cab driver in history of the world, said nap.
I didn't know where anything was, and during that time, KLVX hired me as a part-time production assistant.
I would toil there, do whatever jobs they asked.
About two months later, the anchorman.
quit and they had open auditions to be the anchor of the newscast. I applied, I got it suddenly.
Less than a year in Las Vegas, I'm anchoring to newscast. Within a year, he was hired by KLAS,
where he's been ever since, but before UFOs, NAPS beat was the mob. So he did some mob stuff,
and they talked about how he got into the UFO interest, and he said, he gives a kind of a full
breakdown in this article, but he talked about how continuous of these reports would come in,
in and then he said that they were in the spring of 1989. He's anchoring the five o'clock news,
and he would have a five-minute nightly interview segment. A live interview with someone on the set.
Our guest on this particular day canceled at the last minute. I'm thinking, who could we get to
fill this? I called up John Lear, and he said, you had a guy who was going to work out there and
maybe working on flying saucers in the desert. Can we talk to him? I didn't even know his name,
said Nap. We created a silhouette for the interview. He used the pseudonym and out the story comes.
His guest, Bob Lazar, claimed that there were nine flying saucers of extra
terrestrial design at Area 51, and he was working to reverse engineer the technology of the
objects. He tells me the story and the phones go crazy, said Nap. I get pulled off the set and pulled
into the news director's office. The manager comes back. What the hell was that? Is this for real?
What did you just do? I said, look, I don't know if it's real. I don't have any idea. We just wanted
to do an interview, but I'm going to find out. And after Lazar's story, Area 51 changed forever,
according to Nap. So after he talked to Bob Lazar, like there was a lot of retaliation that came in
against it but man there's like there's so much in this that he's got riley i'm wondering there's a big one in
there that what that gets me what was that it's he he lazar says that it was like they coordinated with
the government to land at area 51 the the UFOs yeah and to meet with these alien representatives and
he said that that meeting took place out there that's to me that is
I have no idea how to really believe that.
I know, and it's so, what's so crazy is that, you know,
that when it comes to Bob Lazar, it's like, who knows, like, a lot of people,
he's, he's one of the most fascinating people out there when you,
because there's some people that just think he's full of it.
There's some people, the one thing, like, when he was on Rogan, right,
and Rogan said, I think, really, he's never changed his story, really.
Some people say that, yeah, he has.
I don't think he has.
from what I've heard, everything I've heard and read about him,
it's the same thing over and over again.
And I love for,
I love people to point out the different things
if he's changed his tune,
but it seems consistent.
Doesn't necessarily mean he's telling the truth.
Just means that he's been telling the same story
in the same way.
But what does nap got to lose?
You know, here?
Yeah, I mean, everything.
Yeah.
You know, but I, it's like,
I do believe that there can be bad actors
that go out there and, you know, muddy the waters.
Yes.
And, uh,
That to me is, so when we're talking about,
it's great that we were talking about Bigfoot earlier,
because I think that these things happening can,
it's very easy to go into that realm.
Sure.
You know, and to me, the realm of Bigfoot exists in the same place
as the story of, we were contacted by the UFO,
and we met with the alien consulate.
And we had a meeting, nobody knows about it,
except these people, and that has moved,
and now Area 51 is in other areas.
That to me is really hard to get behind
versus there's something out there.
We have footage.
We don't know what the hell it is.
That's what we want to figure out first, right?
And that's what we've been talking about
on this show for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks.
What's the next step in that
of what we're going to be able to see?
But when you get to...
Is that you reading your article?
Yeah, I want to make sure I'm quoting this correctly
because I remember you sent it to me
and I read it, and I was like, this is absolutely insane.
I mean, it just depends.
Look, Greer says the same stuff, is that, right?
Stephen Greer, that's his name, right?
Yeah.
And he says the same thing about how,
there's like everything you could imagine with Star Trek, it exists,
and all that kind of stuff.
And I don't know if I can put merit into that stuff.
And it's not to say.
Yeah, here it is.
Yeah.
April 25th, 1964 was the first official communication
between our government and the aliens.
Three saucers landed there by pre-arranged agreement.
It was filmed by five high-speed cameras,
68,000 feet of film, lyric said, on Nap's show.
This would be the catalyst for Nap's journey to the test site.
So that's...
That's like that footage that we saw on the UAP Twitter last week.
Right.
They said it comes from that meeting.
Okay.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
See, that's...
When they go, okay, we have like thousands of feet of footage.
I go, great.
Show it.
What?
But what would happen if they actually showed it?
And they show you what I mean?
Can you imagine if, let's say, let's say that NAP is like, you know what?
Forget it.
Show me everything we got.
And on News Nation, they just go, we're going to end this today.
Yeah.
We're going to end this day.
I would love it.
Bring it home.
Can you imagine?
I can.
And it's up because, you know, I'm waiting for the text from, from DJ.
We'll just said, I'm right.
Yeah.
You're right.
It's something.
But, you know, again, it's, it's really hard because there's, you know, I'm going to always rely on
data and science and my own two eyes.
And, you know, when we get the government stuff releasing the footage, New York Times, that's
sourcing and it's coming together of like really, not accurate, but very respectable people.
And I can see it with my own two eyes.
And then this is like, maybe.
Right.
We don't know yet, but there's three saucers landed.
And, you know, prearranged meeting.
There's a bunch of footage.
And I'm just like, that is, you know, Vulcan, did they give us?
the warp drive, you know, is this what we're talking about?
That, it's just, it's really hard for me to believe this.
I understand.
I mean, look, but like, how much is actually, here's the...
From the nap interview?
Yeah, because here's the thing.
Hopefully he reveals that footage.
Because this is the one thing that's not going to do anything.
It's just not going to move the needle.
We know that he's been investing in it for so long.
If they do the same thing that they just did here, where they go, okay, here's all these
crazy stories.
That could be interesting.
But he says, I've got tons of.
tons of stuff, tons of evidence, tons of things.
Show it.
You got to show it because he's not under the same type of guy, you know,
Grush or, yeah, Grush, I understand why Grush can't say certain things.
Sure.
He can be arrested and thrown in jail.
If NAP has something, show it.
Yeah, and it kind of, it is reminding me of the hearings of Mexico,
bringing the aliens out a showman.
that anything is a showman
we're still getting to the bottom of
the Mexican aliens I'm being
very for me cautious because
I do believe there can be misinformation
and bad actors out there and people wanting
to just make a name and get stuff out there
this for me
has crossed a line of believability
that I am
hesitant but I'm
leaning towards the fact that this
doesn't sound legit to me
this sounds like something that is going to
cause more people
to go, see.
See, the only reason I think they might not, like,
why would, because News Nation is the,
News Nation broke the grush stuff.
Yeah, I'm not talking about News Nation.
I'm talking about, like, what he, this guy,
Napsed it's a giving.
But if you're News Nation, why do you take that interview
if that's going to be, if that's going to do that?
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, if we're, you know, I, I, I'm, I'm hesitant.
I understand that.
It's very, it's very interesting to me.
It's just when, like, I'd be more,
readily available in my, like, let's see this.
If he was like, I have something, you know, this guy said area 51 was moved because there's
some activity over there and the kind of, but I have some revealing stuff I want to tell you.
They're leading with something that to me is just, wow.
It's, it's nuts.
Okay.
So let's see it.
Let's see what he has to say.
Who am I?
I'm not the news.
That's what I'm saying, though.
Like if it's, if the News Nation report is just him going, well, let me tell you this crazy thing that this guy told me.
Let me tell you what the crazy thing.
This guy says that they had meetings.
And this guy said, this guy came down.
This one said the alien.
It's like, yeah, but that's all we hear.
And that's like, that's not going to move the needle at all.
And it's like, but what, because what I hope isn't happening, which I could understand if it is, is that News Nation also, to answer my own question.
News Nation is pretty much the YouTube version of the mainstream media.
Okay.
I mean, CNN has their stuff and Fox has their own YouTube channels.
You know where they're leaning.
You know where they're leaning, but I mean, even News Nation kind of leans a certain way.
Sure.
But the difference is that most people for the regular news or the politics, you're going to go to Fox, you're going to go to CNN, you're going to go to MSNBC.
you're going to go to those things that they're ready to mainstream, right?
But what News Nation did by doing the grush stuff,
and then after that, just went all in on the UAP stuff.
Like went all in on it,
and even so much so that I can't remember one,
someone was like, okay, they're really,
I think Rogan might even say,
they're really leaning in on it to where it looks like,
are they actually trying to reporting on it,
or they, well, it was.
They had done a video about, let's say, like, Hunter Biden,
and it did like, I don't know, a thousand views maybe, right?
unlike almost a million subs.
They do UAP stuff, and it's like their highest rated stuff.
So if they're at a point where they're like, okay, our audience and the algorithm on YouTube really favors when we do UAP stuff, we've been trying to get nap forever.
He said, do it, let's do the interview.
Does he have anything?
Doesn't matter.
It'll use it.
I can see that happening as well.
Sure.
I mean, it's, I'm not saying it's entertainment because it's not, this is serious what we're dealing with.
but I believe is out there's sneaker salesmen everywhere.
I'm not saying the nap is one.
I'm just saying they're out there.
And it's like, and especially when there's profit
and people will go, oh, wait a minute.
Yeah, and I mean, it's just another example of always,
I encourage everybody,
it doesn't matter where you see it,
whether it's CNN, News Nation, Fox, wherever.
If something just doesn't ring true to you,
go seek.
Right.
Go out there and seek the information,
yourself and get to the sources and get to the and make your decision and you know based on numerous
people that you can you can trust i mean this is something that can be put out there for everybody
and maybe nap does have something to prove you know it's like that's the flip side of it all that is
the flip side is what if we watch it next week and i'm like did you see what he just showed right
i mean are you kidding me yeah i i'm i'm open for anything yeah and that's what i'm curious about will
this, I mean, I'll be watching it for sure
because I want to see what he says.
And I still, all these different reports,
of all the different people who have reported on these things
that have seen these different videos,
I always find it fascinating because it's always in my head of like the
when it all comes out, whenever that might be,
how many of these stories are you going to go,
that's the story that that guy told.
You know what I mean?
You're like, whoa.
Like if enough people tell the story or a version of it
and it seems the same,
and this person heard,
like you look at that footage that
that James Fox talked about that he saw
from the guy, the military guy,
or it was the guy who had it,
and then it was the same guy that
Logan Paul was going to, did you hear
this whole story? Yeah.
Yes, touched on it.
So James Fox
went, talks to this guy, I can't remember his
actually, I think he was a military guy, I can't remember what it was,
but he had this footage, and James was,
you got to let me have this.
I was like, no. And he locked it up in like this
in this thing. He's like, you know, I'll pay it for it, whatever, too, and he wouldn't do it.
So Logan Paul then was going to pay the guy. He said no, but when the guy went, I don't know,
with the bathroom, went something, Logan shot the footage on his phone and said he had it.
Okay.
And talked about it and said he wasn't going to show it at all. He's talked about it on his podcast.
And then James Fox recently said that it's getting closer and closer to actually being shown.
And the footage, he described the footage on.
on Rogan show and it was basically these two guys were in,
it was like in Vegas and they're,
they're, these guys gave him, gave this military guy.
Again, I think it's a military guy who gave this guy,
ex-military guy.
Um, they were driving the two of them and and it was hovering us about the most
James Fox is the most clear footage anyone's ever seen.
Okay. Really.
It was like really like hovering over.
They got out. They're filming it.
And yeah, and because then they, they tried,
they talked about it on Rogan for a bit when it, when he was
on there. But this is what's so
interesting to me when you say
the aliens.
It's interesting to me
when you say the way that
came about, like possibly
ex-military showing this.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Yeah. And it's funny because the
one thing my dad has that he
loves. Then he goes, it's a UFO.
It's a picture. And it's
a picture like this big.
And it's a picture
of a picture of a glass.
on that picture, which is magnifying the UAP.
And the picture that he has is of his friend,
ex-military, taking the picture of the picture.
Does that make sense?
Okay?
So my dad has it and goes, yeah, this ex-military guy,
and I love this picture, because what the hell is that?
And it looks like a tic-tac.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's silver.
It's silver.
There's some red in it, and it's-
Take a picture.
Put it on the show.
I know.
I should, I will.
I will, I will.
I'm gonna do that.
I know, I have so many connections to UFO stuff, UAP stuff.
But that, but that, so to me, that's a personal story I have,
that then when you say that, come on, so how many of them are out there?
Right.
And that does sound like that could be true.
Well, look what we talked about last week, right?
How many different reports all the time, just in the different spots and, like,
the appearances in just the United States.
States alone of the things in her. So that's interesting and I want to see how they're going to tell
Knapp's story, right? They're going to tell basically what we just read to you guys the beginning of
how he got involved in it, how he was kind of like a skeptic, but not skeptic, but just wasn't,
didn't know enough about it. And then he goes and becomes like, you know, the one of the most
I guess, I don't know if notorious is the right word, but the most renowned, I don't know, UFO
reporters for a long time. I mean, he was the one who talked to Lizar. I mean, there was the one who brought
Lazar to light. And when those hearings happened, the recent hearings, the one in July now,
there was video of Lizar and it was basically, and I think they said, well, you have anything
saying? He said, told you. And it's one of those things to where, you know, it's the same thing that
we say? I don't necessarily
have
an, like if someone says, do you believe
Lazar, to me?
I don't have a yes
or no for that. Yeah.
I don't have yes or no. I don't think
it's right to
say no.
Because
it is certain people, look,
I'll tell you what, the guy in
encounters who said he was
that he said it was fake and he was
it has nothing to do. What do? What
he was talking about. That guy just looked like a liar.
He doesn't look like a liar.
It doesn't matter if he was talking about whether or not
he paid for the donuts.
Like he just looks like a liar.
LaZare doesn't look like a liar to me.
And I think the same thing,
and I think that this is what James Fox said about Lozor.
I think. He said,
I believe that he believes it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah. And so that
I feel the same. I believe that he
believes it. Yeah.
And he doesn't seem
crazy? Yeah. I don't know.
I mean, with all of this,
there's various, I think
can be various stages
of your belief
system. Yeah. Like,
I'm more, so if it's
maybe a line of like,
on this side is like, you don't believe it
at all. Right. And
yep, you know, 100%
it exists. I think that
people fall on different
planes. Plains on the, on that
scale. And I lean, and I'm, I'm,
I'm falling here more towards that I believe
because there's now, again, I said earlier,
data, science can catch up,
technology can catch up and help us with this.
He believes, maybe Lazar believes,
he believes, you know,
maybe it's been lost in telephone over the years.
Could be, but it doesn't look like it.
Because every time he tells the story,
it seems to be the same stuff he's been telling for years.
Same thing he told Knapp is the same thing you tell Rogan.
It seems like the same exact thing.
Or he might, you know,
just might be a person who pays,
attention to all the detail that he's talked about and that he knows what to say when he says it.
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coming out, and this was very interesting.
All right.
So we talked last week about Timbershet, and Timberset was
talking about Lou Elizondo.
And so for people who don't know Lou Elizondo is,
if you guys have been watching our show,
and we told you how we kind of really started to dive deep into this,
it was because of the documentary that we had watched
called UFOs investigating the unknown.
Well, Louis Alizondo is a major part of that.
It starts off the entire documentary where he was the one who got in touch with
Leslie Keene and told her about this.
He was hired.
by the government to be part of this program.
He was the one who was very highly involved with the New York Times League.
So he just tweeted out recently and he said,
Howdy, folks, just a quick update for you to consider.
This is from October 13th.
Please know that ongoing efforts are underway that will reveal themselves by early to mid-20204.
at the risk of haters trying to sabotage our efforts, I can't be precise at this time.
But if you've learned anything over the last five years, I never make empty promises.
Trust me, this will be worth it.
Something that a few people that had wrote to him.
Dr. Dan Villiers said, I second that.
Kelly, I often think about the unreleased photo evidence that Lou and Chris have seen
as speaking as more convincing that the Navy videos as good as one would want.
I wonder if that might be released in 2024 or will.
it be another whistleblower.
So a lot of people are wondering, like what,
see, so this guy, Lou, does not seem,
he seems to me the guy that really wants to put the truth out there.
Yeah.
He's the reason why he went to Leslie Heat.
Without this guy, without this guy.
Yeah.
We don't get that video in Collider.
Yeah.
That watch, the Tick-Tek, the release of it and all that.
Like, because of his report, the investigating begins.
Yeah.
with the kind and the the the then the investigation to Harry Reid to talk to Harry Reid to figure all that stuff out that all comes from Lou.
So if Lou's out there saying look I can't say anything what it is because we don't want people to screw with it.
But they're not going to stop us and it's common.
Yeah.
And he says I don't give empty promises.
Like I feel a little bit more like as what we're just talking about.
This is more of a what's he going to?
More so than I, all right, what do you got, Lou?
Yeah, it's more of like, wait a minute, what do you got?
Yeah, I'd buy this.
Right.
It just sounds, again, if you just go from reasoning and you go back to, like you said,
we wouldn't have these TikTok videos, New York Times, getting some of this evidence out there,
this seems along those lines again.
And I like what people are saying in those comments of, like, who might be educated in the
know enough to say this could be like good photographic.
evidence. This could be, you know, what's the next step after the videos, right? It's like,
it's almost like close encounters of the third kind. It's like first contact, you know, then this.
It's like video images. All right. All right. We met with some aliens in the desert, you know.
I'm not saying that's where it's going, but this seems like a logical next step. We have
more interesting stuff, evidence for you to consider. Here you go. You can't stop it. It's happening.
That's what it seems like.
And I think that he's been coordinating with the, you know, the Chuck Schumer's, the,
sure, yeah.
With Burchett, obviously him and Burchett are buddies.
They even refer to him as a friend.
So, and then we'll kind of get into our next conversation because of this.
But like, so this to me is something that he's got something.
And it also, there's a pocket.
Like what's so funny about all this.
there's like this pocket of government or outside government, if you will, that has been this secrecy clan for like the last like 70, 80 years or whatever, whatever the hell, however long it is.
Close to it.
Yeah.
About that.
Yeah.
There is, I think right now, a secrecy clan born out of necessity with people like Lou and the James Fox and people like this that know things that have ideas.
is like Ross Cole Hart, people like that,
they know things that are coming that they can't talk about.
Like, think about this.
It's kind of interesting, yeah.
But this is the silly version of this, right?
How many times, whether it be a Star Wars scoop
or a Marvel thing or a DC thing
that you and I had heard was coming,
about two years before it was coming,
and then it came to fruition and it happened,
but you couldn't say anything about it.
Because you don't want to give up whoever told you.
And this is the very silly version of the major stuff
is if you're someone like a James Fox or Lou who's got this stuff.
Yeah.
And he's like, all right, listen, this is a small community.
This is what we're working on.
This is what we got coming.
You don't say anything I know it's coming from you,
but this is what we're going to work on.
We have this coming.
And because it's just a little coincidental,
Ross Calhart, Lou, James Fox,
all these people say the same thing.
Within the next six months to a year, something's coming.
Yeah.
Are they just guessing that?
Something occurred to me with your telling that story, even more so, and this is, I'm not making light of this, but the sub-tragedy that happened, going, diving to the Titanic.
No, right.
When that thing imploded, as the evidence revealed later, and as it kept going, there was, you know, the searches to go rescue, hopefully, and find anything.
and then it came out that there were sounds underwater
that the Navy heard
and then it comes out Cameron
James Cameron comes out
and says a very small community of the subs
that's going down there
when the sounds, when we heard those sounds
we knew they were gone. Oh yeah, right.
And that was a very, very small community
of people that share information
about diving and they had been warning
these guys for years about what
they were doing at the Titanic.
But what I'm seeing in comparison
to that is
take it now to the UAP stuff.
Right.
And that a bunch of people can be in the know sharing data, sharing evidence,
sharing information that they know to get ready for this.
That's, I completely buy this.
I know.
It's just too, it's too, it's just too coincidental that they're all saying the same thing.
They're all saying the same thing.
It's like, and it's like the reporter that goes, oh, I just have a funny feeling.
It's like, you know a funny feeling.
Someone told you and you, you know, you know.
Yeah.
And that's what's going to have.
happen. Something's going to happen. But the question is, is it footage? Is it pictures? Is it, is it
another hearing? Is it another, is it another, is it all of that in another hearing? You know what I mean?
Is it, is it trying to reveal more evidence to get another hearing to say, hey, guess what?
That then, that then gets us into this conversation. We touched on this last week. Now, we try to stay away from
actual politics in general, because that's, even though this is a political thing, but, you know,
the other stuff going on in the world. But this is very relevant, I think. Now, yeah, I agree.
As we said, Kevin McCarthy was ousted as the Speaker of the House. He was the lead of that
charge was Matt Gates. One of the members, also there was eight of them, I think, that voted him out.
Yeah, something like that.
Eight who led the Charger voted him out.
One of those was Burchett.
Yeah.
Berchett and Gates both voted him out.
Now, Berchette was on the news while McCarthy was still the Speaker of the House,
talking about how they kept trying to get certain committees
and couldn't get answers from him.
He looked as if McCarthy was being dismissive from every interview that I got.
And he said that they, and then eventually it was denied.
They said, it looks like we will get another hearing,
but our committee that we wanted to basically look for footage,
serve subpoenas, look for things, that was denied.
Yeah.
Right.
So I know there's other agendas and other things clearly with getting rid of him
and putting in Jim Jordan, if that's eventually who gets the spot.
I don't even think he's going to get it.
I don't think he's going to get the spot either,
but the reasoning behind it is if that, if they get their,
guy in there, whoever it might be, and they go, hey, we've got you in here, get us this committee.
That's the way politics works.
Yeah.
And I'm not telling you whether I think it was the good move or bad move.
What I'm saying is that's what probably part of the move will be, where where Chet's like, you know, McCarthy has told him no, no, no, every time he's trying to do something.
And so he's like, all right, get rid of him.
And him and Gates are allies, right?
And it looks like whoever's in there, if it is one of their guys, do not be surprised if they get a committee after that.
Don't be surprised.
I hope so.
But my fear is that this, a UAP committee and maybe another hearing, this is why I'm hoping when Lou is sharing this information on Twitter,
that it's like we get evidence so that it forces people to look and the media covers it and people
start demanding so that over there they can get a committee going to investigate and reveal more
stuff. I'm afraid that we are far away from that now because of everything going on.
Well, yeah, because that is going to be pushed to the bottom of the list with so many other
things that are going to be in politics.
That's my point, though. That's my point. If it's their person that's,
in there? Sure. Remember this. I buy that. Because remember this. For other people, it's not their
priority. Bert Chet, this is like his thing. So, Bertchette, if this happens, if whoever, if they
get one of their people in there, he'll make a push for it. I believe, I believe that. I just
believe we're at a log jam right now because they can't even get a speaker. Yeah, we can't, we can't
even get a speaker of the house.
Oh, I agree.
I don't, it's no easy ride for them.
You know, yeah, yeah.
We got to keep the government open first, you know, and then it's going to, then it's
coming up next week, right?
It's November, no, it's like the beginning of November.
Is that what it is like, it's like, yeah, a couple weeks.
And so it's like, they have to figure that out.
Right.
Then there's, then there's probably stuff that I'm, we're not aware of that,
I'm sure people can educate us.
There's tons of other things that are going to be, like, this is, I'm just saying
as far as Burchett, that's what I'm,
his major things.
To a lot of other people...
Get him in there, yeah.
Yeah. Let's...
I want to make this very clear to people
that I also don't think that they're...
They ousted Kevin McCarthy
to get the UAP hearing.
Of course not.
I'm just...
There's way other things and other...
Jordan pulls back his face and he's an alien.
There's about 75 other reasons.
Yeah.
Why? I'm just saying that
don't, like, don't be surprised
if while voting
you know,
Burchett's like,
well,
you should have given me that hearing.
You know,
that's the way it works there,
whether it's right or wrong.
Yeah,
everybody in House of Representatives,
Senate,
everybody has an agenda
they want to bring to their constituents,
what they run on,
and this could be one of them for Burset.
But that's also why I think,
like,
as Bert Chet was talking about
how he's friends with Lou.
Yeah.
And like,
you don't think they're talking about
this kind of stuff all the time,
and he's just like,
oh, dog damn it,
if I gave,
if we want,
of getting a new speaker, I'll make sure that that guy
gets us in there and loses it, all right, make it happen.
That's why I like Bouchette a lot because there's something
about him, Republican, Democrat,
who gives a shit?
I'm talking about somebody that just
from my two eyes,
this guy just goes, what's out there?
Damn it! Right.
That's like, he speaks for all of us.
That's what tries me. You know, he's just like,
damn it, I want to get to the bottom of this.
It seems like it's very passionate to him
because maybe for him
it exists that it is bigger
for him than what's going on, this circus that we're in.
He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop effing with the elephants.
What the hell is that?
Well, that's the funny thing that's.
I talked about this on my show on yesterday.
And what I said is we got to a place now, and it was never like this.
I don't remember, I remember like when growing up, if there were certain things that,
you know, Democrat, Republican, no matter who it was, you go, I don't fall.
I'm not really on that person's politics.
But that move was pretty good.
I understand that.
Now it's, wait, you like what that person did?
Are you part of the enemy?
On both sides of it, right?
Oh, yeah.
And it's like, look, and I have no problem saying this.
I'm about as independent now as a guest.
You too.
Yeah, I'm registered.
Yeah, I'm going, I'm straight.
And to me, it's one of these things where I'm looking,
and I don't care about people going, well, wait a minute.
You like, Prichette?
He said this and this.
I didn't say I agreed with what he said there.
I told you I agree with what he said about the UAP stuff.
You know, that's, and that's what government's supposed to be.
But it's in general.
But it's now it's Yankees versus the Red Sox.
Yeah, listen, we're not going to, I don't care.
UAPs, this, that, this is as political as I'm going to get.
We're not going to get anywhere.
Unless you talk to the other people on the other side of the aisle.
That goes back to the hearing.
The hearing itself.
Just full stop.
Were you blown away by that hearing about how like all those different people that you usually see
yelling at each other or like they were all on the same page it was such a crazy because behind closed
doors it is completely different you know when you have um you know mcconnell dealing with health issues
and and again you know we're dealing i am i'm also the humanist and i believe that you know in
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Media's like,
ah, you know,
and people are wishing his death,
you know,
that are on the other side
and vice versa when Biden takes a fall.
You know,
they wish him death or whatever it may be.
It's Yankees versus Red Sox.
It's Yankees versus Red Sox.
We're going to have to,
and I remember those times too
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you know,
my family was a,
you know,
Reagan Republicans,
you know,
and I'm like,
what?
And,
but there was governing
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Well, that's what I'm hoping now with, again,
what this kind of cryptic tweet from Lou is,
is that it's like, look, we're working together here,
we got some stuff, it's going to happen.
We have things in motion.
And, you know, and look, we are always
because of the internet and TV where I was like,
well, what's the next scoop?
What is it?
What are you guys doing?
And it's like, it doesn't mean because we have,
haven't heard anything that shit ain't going down.
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So what we did last week that I kind of want to do again is some of these videos.
Yeah, I love it.
Yeah, we did some videos.
We watched some of these videos, and then we talk about what we think about them.
This one's crazy.
This one is just, did you watch this one?
Like, all right, here is this one.
This is the, I don't know where it is, but did you listen to the audio on it?
I don't think I did listen to the audio.
to the audio.
All right, listen to this one.
It makes it creepier, the audio.
Bismillah, Rahmanaheim, Hajjee,
Hajjee, Hajjah, hajah, hajah, hajah, hajah,
bishishi.
Where?
Like, what is that?
I don't, I mean...
The second time watching it, I'm like, that's a monkey.
You think so?
What is that?
monkey. Could be wrong.
Let's see if you can get a little screenshot
here. There's a screenshot of it.
That's a monkey.
It doesn't look like
Yeah, it's like
it does look more human,
but that's the weird shot.
Yeah, then it gets weird.
A dog moves out of the way. I don't know, yeah,
it doesn't, I don't know what that is. Also, it's fake.
I don't know.
That's probably true.
It's so hard nowadays.
It's so, no, it's like that big foot, again, it's like, I mean, I am buying it.
Some guy knew that train goes through there.
We live in a world.
If I take the bathroom carpet and put it over my head, I bet I can get something going.
Right.
No, I know.
I don't know.
And then you get something like this.
This is the Las Vegas UFO.
Now, this is TikTok.
Do you have you seen this one?
Yeah, I watched them all that you sent me, but I love watching these.
Look at that.
Yeah, that looks real to me.
That look, yeah, even going through the clouds, it's weird.
That's how I would react.
Yeah, look at that.
That, yeah.
However, Christian, I'm not going to lie.
That reminds me a lot of the one I saw, yeah, because it moves very similar to that.
And then if you listen to my story from back a few shows, it stops dead.
That's what is crazy.
It moved.
It was moving that fast.
then stopped dead in its track so that I don't know I don't look looks good to me so but
that's the that's the other thing is that I don't understand um because like you said
anything can be fake right so even if that guy was a really good actor and he's like what
um it's that it's like I don't know it's so it's so it's so hard like I want that's why I'm so
glad they have that have you been looking at the government site lately no I haven't
checked it out lately, but I've been checked it. We were on it quite a bit when it was released
because, yeah, I mean, it's interesting, Christian, because I do feel that there is something
that exists in humans that it's similar to when you watched, let's say, Rogue One, and they
brought back Peter Cushing from the dead. Your brain goes, yeah, that's cool looking, but
you're like, inside, you're like, you know, that's not real. I kind of feel like this is a similar
example. That last one? Not just that last one. You can kind of, you know, call it your spidey sense.
You know, that's at least what I like to believe about myself. I completely wrong. And there could be
just fabulous artists out there who are on TikTok. Just get me to believe. But that other one just goes,
I'm not seeing. Fake. You think it looks right. It looks okay. This is the Texas one. This was debunked, right?
This is the video that's talking. It's debunked.
This one was?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Go to the article after.
Okay.
So this, well, this was, if this was debunk, I was debunk, not that it was fake, but that it just was not, what was debunked about it?
Was it, it was just gas or something?
Go to the, um, the article because I'll butcher it, but.
Okay.
Yeah, it's weird.
Is that a UFO?
Wow.
That wasn't a good sell.
Is that a UFO?
Is that a UFO?
I saw it.
I got it on video.
Yeah, someone's, it's weird.
Like, what is it?
What is it's not cloudy?
And they debunk this?
Well, go out of there.
Let's see.
If it's the same video that's attached to the article.
Here what it really was.
Questioning the unusual bright object in the night seen over East Texas.
Yeah, so here's what it really was.
So one viewer captured a bright object in the night sky.
For those wondering, no, it was not a UFO sighting.
Our CBS 19 chief meteorologist Brett Anthony clarified the bright
sighting was the SpaceX rocket.
It was a SpaceX.
Okay.
That's what, all right, but this is, but this is, okay.
So this goes back.
This is, I'm so glad we showed this.
And I'm so good we actually, I actually watched it like that.
Okay.
Because it shows that same conversation that people have had of all, like, most of them can be
explained.
Mm-hmm.
But it's the percentage that can't.
So we just showed that one in Vegas that was not explained, but this one was.
Right.
It's like, no, that's not what you saw.
You saw this.
And I can't even imagine how many people think that they see stuff like that.
And they go, that's a UFO.
And you go, no, but it's going to count as a report of one.
But it's not.
And then someone goes, well, what's that?
And someone, I don't know what that was.
And that'll go into the 11.
Yeah, absolutely.
Right.
There's a great quote in the article earlier when we were talking about Knapp.
You know, he said one of my favorite quotes is, you know, you give them 200 sightings of a UFO.
The Air Force will give you 201 reasons that they're wrong.
You know what I mean?
And yeah, you can explain a lot, I'm sure.
And it is, we're talking, it's such, there is so, so much nuance in the conversations.
that social media can't get, nuance is dead when it comes to social media.
That's one of the things that it's so hard to have a, you cannot have a conversation on online.
You can say, you know, sky is blue, FU, it's not, whatever.
But there's nuance to this when you say, I believe this, I don't believe that.
But you could, the layman can look at that and go, I see the same thing.
You're crazy, you're this, you're that, whatever it may be, because it's all UFO stuff.
Green aliens, ray guns.
That's bullshit.
Right.
Until they come out and say, same thing.
Look, there it is.
But two things I want to do before we get out of here.
I do want to show, I'm going to show the trailer of this George Knapp thing.
I'm going to show this trailer.
36 years later, and we still don't know any answers to the big question.
Next week.
I wanted to tell you a story.
It's about one of the adventures that we had.
Something crashed.
Straight down out of the sky.
What if this is real? What if this is true? This would be the biggest story in history.
The evidence suggests we're being visited by some form of intelligence.
So they were definitely listening to you.
They were listening to my phone.
You can't imagine what pressure these people are under to cover this stuff up.
You could feel it, the eyes on it.
This is serious. It's been serious for a long time and it's been ignored for way too long.
If you arrive, everyone has been lied to.
Yeah, there's a sophisticated.
disinformation campaign targeting the U.S. populace, which is extremely unethical and in more.
So you knew that the U.S. government was funding a secret program.
The keepers of the secrets are better at their job than people like us are at ours.
And they're not going to let this thing go easily.
So, I mean, that's really, it's a good trailer.
Yeah, I know.
It's a great trailer.
Great trailer.
I just, again.
They're bringing, it's their, they're, they're, it's, it's.
it was very much
was entertaining
of course nothing inside of that
yeah like it was good stuff
that we've all seen
stuff that I mean if you're following the story
I'm gonna watch it
I'm gonna watch it
it's the same thing and going
wait
did they just actually say that
did they actually just show that
that's what I'm hoping for
I don't know we gonna get that
yeah that's what I mean they're
they're showing it with an inner cut
with the the TikTok
video
crush
hearings they're they're putting
it with that stuff to show legitimacy.
And I like that.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that that's again.
I want to know what he says because there's part of that that I'm like, okay.
Let's see.
Bring the big guns.
I think that George Knap thing is going to be very interesting to watch the, I mean, watching
for Luz tweets, man, seeing what he's got going on because that's, you know, he's teasing some good
stuff.
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He's a haste.
He's not going to talk about himself.
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