The Kristian Harloff Show - UFO reports/sighting continue in record numbers. Do YOU live in a hotspot?

Episode Date: October 10, 2023

PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow  We are continuing the discussion around the UAP/UFO phenomenon. A new report came out for the most sightings and reports of UFOs in the United States and highly populated areas to no one surprise her on the top of the list. The amount of new reports and sightings might shock you. Tim Burchett continues to ask for answers and he is starting to get more and more support and he discusses about some of that support on a recent podcast. The Mexico hearings were controversial to say the least. The bodies that were shown at the end of the hearing sparked, a lot of Ridicule. There is a report from doctors who have now looked at those bodies and haven't determined that they are of human form. Kristian Harloff and Mark Reilly also dive through Twitter to look at some of the recent videos to see what videos should actually be considered and what videos actually drive the narrative into the taboo of ridicule that has been there for so long.

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to UAP Tuesday. That's right. UAP Tuesday. Thank you for being so supportive and being here each and every Tuesday with myself and Mark Riley doing the virtual today because Marcus Yodias Riley is. He takes time out of his busy schedule to join us today. And he couldn't make it over here today and that's fine because I got him on the virtual to talk about all things UAP. And the main topic as you saw in the thumbnail and you saw the title is these hot spots that are popping up all over the place. has been so many different places. I think it was there, Maryland right now is just so much. And the question is, do you live in a hotspot? Do you live in a place that it's possible that so many different people?

There's a report that came out with all these different hotspots of places that are being spotted all the damn time. Part one. Part two, something no one's talking about. And I didn't even know, he's doing research for this show, those little cake alien bodies that we talked about. it's a couple of doctors that did research on them and said it's not cake what the hell is nobody's reporting on it i don't know anything my co-host knew what is it no one knows and no one's reporting on Tim Burchett is one of the guys run and shop

in the government to make sure that you know there's more disclosure he's still at it and he's there seems to be more and more potential that more whistleblowers are coming forward. Is it going to happen? It's the same thing that Riley, I'm talking every week, is that more disclosure is going to happen. It's big,

in the next year, something's going to go down. Is it going to go down? I don't know. But between that, that's a lot to talk about today on the big thing. So thanks for joining us once again. So for myself and Mark Riley,

here we go. It's the big thing. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. UAP Tuesday. It's big thing. Myself and Mark Ryland. Howdy Chris?

What's up, buddy? How you doing? Good, good. How's everyone out there? Happy UAP Tuesday. Yeah, it's good to have you. Good to be here as always. Well, it's funny.

I think, I don't know where I'm going to put it. I'll probably put it on Patreon or maybe even put it at the end of this. I don't know. But right as you joined in the stream, I found a fight video, but they had put it towards the, the theme of street fighter. It's why I'm still coughing because I was laughing.

We were laughing. It's really funny. So I don't know I'm going to post it. But speaking to Patreon, I was talking to Riley about that. You know, on Friday announced on our other show, if you're not familiar with it, we're going to be doing some goals for our Patreon. We're going to be adding some new tears and adding a few things. But at Patreon, for people who are familiar with the other shows that we do, Winston A. Marshall is one of my.

co-hosts and rightly remember when we took josh maccuga back to uh universal horror nights hollum yeah um well winston winston's just as scared as macuga ben we came to an agreement that he said he would he would do it he pretty much said like well you got to pay me more than uh you know my normal rate and significantly more if i'm going to do it and i was like yeah if we hit a thousand patrons then we'll do it so we're aiming at a thousand patrons at at 10 000 patrons brett sharonin is going to skydive which he's terrified of heights and skydive at 10,000 patrons.

But this is one of my favorite ones, O'Reilly. That's insane. I will never skydive. You do it for 10,000 the amount of money he's going to do, if 10,000 patrons, you might do it. But nonetheless, it is not my favorite out of all the ones that have been recommended. Brett actually

came up with this one today. We were talking about the Lost Boys. Oh, my God. And we brought up up, no. at 1,500 patrons, Brett and I are going to go to a Corey Feldman concert, and we're going to sit in the front row. We're going to get front row seats.

Yeah. And we're going to record the whole thing, and we're going to try to get backstage. That's a lot of fun. Yeah, so we're going to see. But how does this relate to the UAPs, what people are going to say? Well, Riley and I actually talked about this last week,

and what we're going to do is not necessarily a goal. It's going to be one of the benefits that when you join up, we're going to do an extra two episodes a month on Patreon starting in November, just for UAP listeners. We'll have this one that's going to be on every Tuesday, obviously, for UAP, but for people who want a little more, and I get people to DM me. I'm sure Riley, you get DMs all the time about this. I'm actually getting them.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so we want to be able to get questions from you guys. We want to be able to really go off for you because there's only so much because one show a week that we can cover and really can't get everybody's questions. So we want to get everybody's questions, patron questions. So join up today. It's the first one.

It's the Patreon.com slash the Big Thing show. Starting in November, we are going to have a full on two more UAP shows for you guys. And we're going to be taking questions for you guys, getting as involved, being part of the conversation. So if you want to support the show and you're able to support the show, then consider joining today. And like I said, you might not even know Winston, but as you, if you join up, I think the UAP, a lot alone, you could probably get us to a thousand within, because it's by, it's by October that we can still take Winston, if now we'll have to take them next year, but either way. There you go. It's amazing, really.

I was just talking to one of our patrons, actually. He's talking to me, he's asking me about how the UAP show kind of came about and how, you know, we decided we wanted to do it. And initially you and I were like, well, let's just do it. You know, we'll do it like once a month. One time, right? Yeah, we'll do it. And if we do it once a month and then we had so much A to talk about. every week.

And then be the amount, like this show consistently, our lower rated episodes are like 25 to 30,000, an episode and people are so interested and continuously talking about. I'm not just talking about the full on believers. I'm talking about people who are skeptics. I'm talking about people who are kind of in the middle.

They like this presentation of the idea of, look, you guys don't know what it is. You have your ideas about it, and so do I. Yeah. We're following breadcrumbs as, as much as you are. And I've always loved it.

It taps into that part of me that loves horror movies and loves to stare off into the sky because I've always stared off into the sky wondering what the hell is out there because it's so big. It's so grand. And we are in a time now that is the most exciting in my lifetime because we are getting confirmations from legitimate sources and people that. that I look at and pass the eye test. Right. They are not, now, we are like, if you would have told me a young lad of 10, you know, Riley in, in, you know, 40 years or so, you are going to see the government and people in the government sit down and talk about this legitimately.

Somebody's going to come out and say, we have, we have remains. I've seen, you know, I know people who've seen this. I have witnesses. This person here. he saw something do this and this and this. I mean, I would have shit my pants. Right, exactly. I know.

It's true. And so we are far along right now. And I think the viewers, thank you. And everybody that is now following me and sending awesome messages. This is an exciting time. And if you are skeptical, you know, to a certain degree, we are as well. Or at least I am. But I've seen my share of things.

And I want to believe, and there is so much going on, Christian, now, that why can't we do even more? We're going to be going off script, talking about even wild theories, but then answering, you know, what's next? And I'm definitely skeptical of things.

Like, perfect example. Like, so what I do before, every, you know, I'm always checking the news for the week to, as I'm at nighttime,

just scrolling through and seeing who's reporting on it, see if there's new stuff that pops up. And then usually right before we do the show, I do my normal searches to see if there's anything that I missed. And, and I always scroll on, X or Twitter, whatever it is, and I go to UAP Twitter or UFO Twitter, and I go, and I'm usually

that's where I'm most skeptical, right? Because not because, I mean, look, there's a lot of stories in there that pop out that are true, but there's also a lot of people that are just trying to, like, say, oh, look at this. Like, you see stuff on there, and there's videos, there's stuff that you're like, oh, it'd be awesome, but it's true, but the percentage of it being true are, like slim than none. There's, like, interviews with aliens and they're talking,

and they might as well be singing Beach Boys songs. I don't know. But, like, there's all these different things, And there's all these, and there's every other one is a UFO like post, like an actual, you know, you see one. Well, flying in the sky and you're like, well, what, you know, my problem with those, why I'm so skeptical there is because of what we've talked about in the past. There's so much that you can do with deep, and that's just deep fix, but the CGI in general and all these technology. Just you can plug it into something and create something that looks very new. And there's a couple things that out there.

And I was like, it looks real, but it also looks like it's really, it's done like fantastic. And I think like that's the arguments that some of the skeptics could say like, yeah, like, even though you guys are saying like that one looks fake, I think the, I think the Ticktack looks fake. Or I think the one that, you know, is over a few of the other ones that they've showed at, the actual hearings could have been done by, you know, CGI. So we're going to have to worry about that. I think that that's going to go. against and possibly harm skeptics in government and getting stuff out there because you can

hide behind that's technology that's a blah blah blah somebody just kind of created that and you know move on and that can be grasped onto as something as just explainable well we're going to talk about a couple of things and if we have time today i'm going to go through some of the ones like the videos that i found riley that i'm going to be like you know that it to me it looks interesting but it looks fake. And then there's one that people say like totally looks fake. And then there's other ones that say no that there's no reporting of that actually being described as fake.

So that's where when you go down that rabbit hole on Twitter, it's like that type of stuff, it's like you can see what you're like, okay, sure, sure. Like I'll play the one that I saw. It was so silly. It was the one that they like dub this, the alien's voice over and they're like interviewing the alien.

And the guy interviewing them is talking to him the way that I'm talking to you now. Right. And it's like, care if you spent 10 years with this thing to me i'm gonna hey i know you tied up and you can probably uh break out and laser my face but uh why you're here yeah ladies and gentlemen we have admiral akbar in studio rovah for having man uh well he's like he's like being a dick to him so yeah right it's just it's so stupid but anyway but the There's a line.

There's a line. There's a line. So it's, and I understand that when you're, if you're not paying attention to the stuff that's like official and these other things and you, it all blends into one, like, let's say that you're just, you hear two guys like us talking about it. You, you have a, you listen to this movie show four days a week. And for some reason on Tuesdays, these two guys are talking about UAPs. Like, what the hell of these guys talking about?

You know what? I'll search this UAP Twitter and you do it. and you find the alien tied to the thing on about, you know, everything's fine. He's talking English, by the way. And so he's like, what is he talking about? Like, you know what I mean? That's the first thing. That's where I could understand where you're like, wait a minute.

However, if you start going now to this, like this USA Today article, and it says over 100 unidentified flying objects are reported every month to the National UFO Reporting Center. The center publishes these reports on their websites, data bank, and sorts them in different indexes based on their location, their description, the date that they were sent, and the date of the siting. California is the most populated state in the U.S., and it leads as the state with the most sightings with over 16,000, according to the data index. Florida, the third most populated state, follows with over 8,000, and Washington, the 13th most popular state with 7,000. Peter Davenport, the non-profits director since 1994, says the state with the most sightings tend to be the most populated states. He explained that Washington state's high UFO sightings could be explained by the fact that the center is based there. Davenport said he's noticed an increase in reports throughout his career and credits that to people's willingness to report them rather than UFO's existing.

I think the most prominent feature is people who are most willing to report things that they can't identify, Davenport said. So generally, people are more willing to talk about the subject. Now, what states have the most UFO sightings? These are the top 10 states in the U.S. with the most reports. All right. So, Riley, you know number one is California. No, number two is Florida. You know, number three is Washington.

What do you think number four is? They said most populated states. Yep. I'm going to go with Texas. That's right. Texas is right. It's huge. That's right.

And then can you enter- And that other one, that other one was, There was a siding by some guys in Texas as well. Never mind, go. You're going to try to guess number five? Oh, if I got Texas, I don't know why. Most populated states. You're barking up the right tree.

What's populated states? We got Washington. We got Washington. We got California, got Florida. You got Washington, got Texas. Florida is already there. Yeah, so I don't know. I would say New York is next.

Riley, two for two. Riley, that's good. California, Florida, Washington, Texas, New York, followed by Pennsylvania, Arizona. It's not going to be South Dakota. I'll tell you that. I would have picked Arizona in there because of all the reports. I kept going there, but yeah, New York, New York and because when you say California, I think L.A., right? And when you say New York, I think New York City, and you're all packed in there. Yeah, and if they're saying most popular.

All the San Diego reports that they've had. Yeah, and then San Diego. But then you also think about Texas and how big they. that state is and how, you know, spread out everything is. Plus some of the reports that are coming out of Texas made me think there. So the one, California, Washington, Texas, right? Those ones we've heard a lot about them. And even a few in New York.

There's that, was it the Syracuse, which is the one that Hudson, one in Hudson was the great one where the whole like damn town saw it. The only one is over 8,205 reports in Florida. 8,205 of them. What the hell was that? The guy shooting flames up in the sky. But I don't know. I don't know.

I have family. I have a lot of family that was in Florida. I've been to Florida many times. And I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. You're also like, especially where I was, very small town, kind of like 30 miles outside.

of Orlando. You have to drive there and then at night it's just so I could picture Florida being a big one. Yeah. I mean, so that's the report again. One more time. Michigan's not in there, huh? No, which is surprising to me because

someone I saw where I saw it. And it's like a really big hot spot but no, it's California, Florida, Washington, Texas, New York, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Ohio, Illinois, Illinois, and then North Carolina. I know. Now, what are they all right there with Michigan?

So yeah. It's right around the same area. What are the most common types of UFOs reported? The most common description is just a non-identified light in the sky, according to Davenport. We don't get too excited about reports of that nature because there are many lights in the sky. It could be stars, planes, and of course, satellites. As a commercial pilot himself, Davenport said that he's intrigued by reports submitted by airline pilots, which he calls pretty good sources of accurate information when they see something they can't identify. identify or explain. Descriptions of these objects from the center's data ranges from common shapes like circles,

ovals, triangles, diamonds to images like lights or or orbs of flashes or dis or fireballs. A NASA team published a report on September 14th showing that the most common form of UAPs reported are orbs and spheres. There's a whole bunch of different graphics and stuff that I'll put up there. And there's a UFO center calls for more government transparency. Yeah, that's all this stuff that kind of we had heard already before. you know, there's a lot of reports, I think, and this is more so. I think this goes back into the fact that we're in kind of this, you were talking about before, right, this kind of mainstream thing where more people are talking about UAPs and UFOs that you get a report like this and get a report.

This is not new. There's been reports of UAPs and UFOs happening for a bit, but I do think that more people are willing to say, like, this is too full. I think there's more people willing to say, okay, I don't feel as nuts because there's so many people reporting on this and maybe I should say something because maybe it does add into this cover up and all this stuff and maybe I will say hey I saw something that's part one I think that that's definitely happening but I also think what's happening is you know somebody hammered sees a plane in the sky and it goes a little faster than normal and he goes I just saw you a p yeah you know

and it's like I think that happens I think that happens often and I and I think that that goes into what that that comment that we was talking about from James Fox is like granted a lot of these things can be explained. But whatever that, let's say it's, I always say 12%, but let's say whatever that 12% that you can't explain, what's that. That's right. I was going to reference that very kind of quote or whatever,

however you want to classify it. But yeah, there's, I'm sure there's a ton of it just like I remember literally being like, what is that? That doesn't, I don't know, it's this. And it turned out to be a Chinese lantern celebration.

Right. In Long Beach when I lived at the time. They were just floating in the sky and it was weird. Totally explained. The other thing I saw in Michigan, that thing, I was with two other people, Kai Blackwood,

who I mentioned being on the show. I mean, we should get them on and talk about that. But anyways, I can buy that it's maybe a large percentage. Plain, Chinese lantern, you know,

solar spear, whatever. What is that? But you said it, The article mentioned it. We are in a time now where it's more people are going to come forward when they see something. Because the stigma is slowly coming down. I mean,

that's what I think is important. I think slowly coming down is the right way to phrase that for sure. It's very slow. It's very slow. I mean, there are more people who are like, as opposed to back like five years ago, if you bring up something like this,

they go, that guy is crazy. Yeah. Now it's more so like, all right, what, like, why do you think it's real? It's like, tell me why. As opposed to that, that's a big, that's a big progression. That's a, as a, I'm not saying everybody believes it.

That's a big progression for people going, all right, well, let me hear about it. Because I can't tell you how many people I've been like that have done that thing that we always talk about the. And then it's my favorite. Yeah. And then you say, well, wait a minute, before you laugh at all, listen to these particular facts. Listen to these things. And you're not going to get everybody because everybody who doesn't believe has the same thing. We talk about it in the show every week.

It's always the, why is it always grainy footage, which is it, is an okay question. But the other answer to that is too, like these things aren't slow. They're fast. And it's hard to pick up all the time, right? That's part one. But there's that, that's a, that's an okay question. The one that drives me crazy all the time is how come the U.S. is the only one seeing it. No, that one's just, that drives me.

Just go to Google. It's just that easy. Watch encounters. I think two or three out of the four encounters are in different countries. And, you know, Japan's a hot spot. Russia is a hot spot. You know, Australia. I mean, South Africa, tons of different places.

I've had reports. That's just a bunch. I mean, there's a bunch. There's a bunch. Yeah. And again, it's, you know, it's, it's, you get those because it's, it's always been classified in a fantastic way. Right.

A fantastical way. The big foot's out there. The, you know, wizards, and I always say, wizards, elves and whatnot, but we are starting to break that down with more and more people that can say it.

And again, think of like, nope. They knew they had that UFO around there. So they can, the movie nope, sorry. And they set up their cameras.

We don't have that. We can't possibly know how to do that right now unless you, stay in a hotspot for a while and just keep it trained there. That's true, but I will say though, and this is one of the things we'll play in a second too is that Tim Burchett, who has been very much so at the center of all of this

and it comes to trying to get more answers, and he's one of the few people in Congress that's actually trying to get things done with the UAPS, right? He really is. Let me ask you a question on too, because again, this show is not, we don't dive into the politics of it all. No.

I mean, well, I mean, in a certain, obviously somewhat. I think it's a political, that both Democrats and Republicans are trying to come together to make this thing happen. So in a sense, it's political. But I mean, as far as outside of the worlds of the European and the politics themselves, but I will say this. You know, they ousted Kevin McCarthy as a Speaker of the House.

And you're Matt Gates. Yes. Now, Matt Gates is obviously the guy who ran that whole thing. One of the guys who voted him out was Burchett. Yeah. I and remember what Burchett said. And I'm not, and I think things do happen when it comes to grudges and other things too.

McCarthy was the one that said no on the committee from he's, he's like, hey, we need a committee. We need to do this. We need to get more. And McCarthy told Burchett, no.

I bet you that chap, McCart, uh, Burchette's hide. I bet you that pissed them all. And I bet you that it was easy for him because him and, and yeah, and Gates have been working together on this thing.

So I bet you, I bet you that had something to do with them. not saying at all to do with it, but I'm saying it had something to do with it. And whoever the hell it is, I bet you, I will bet you that whoever the new speaker is, I bet you that they are going to lend their support towards this case from both Gates and Burchett, who are very much proponents. You might be right, you know, there's a handful of Republicans in the House that are kind of, you know, making some noise.

But McCarthy, he made his bed. But two of the guys that voted him out are big. I know on disclosure on UAPs. Again. Yeah, for Chad, I can get behind. I'm not telling anybody else here to, to get behind politics of any politician. I'm talking about this, this particular.

Yeah, just for this. And this particular thing that this could mean, It could mean a lot of negative things for other things. It could mean a positive thing as far as the UAP thing when it comes to because McCarthy was like, I don't think McCarthy wanted anything to do with this subject. Yeah. Well, I think there was things that he was trying to do playing both sides, but this to stick to the point of like what it could be for UAPs.

And like, I think you're right that we might get somebody in there that is going to go, all right, let's get some more committees going because we do have on the other side of the aisle there is democratic support for this. Yep. And this can be bipartisan, which I think is a good thing. I would love to try to get Burchat on this show. He's a guy,

I got a, I can't really liking the guy when he talks. I listen to that clip he sent me, by the way, on Twitter. Again, when it comes to this subject, when it comes to this subject, I'm talking just on the subject. I'm sure I'll pull my hair out

for some of the other things he stands for. I will say that. I've heard him talk about others, but this is what I will say about. him. I've heard him talk about other things. There's some things I agree that he talks about. There's other things I'm on the total opposite page with him. However, I like the way he handles himself. Yes. I like the way he handles himself. It's like an old school kind of politician in the way that you can listen to. He's very passionate about this. And that's and so are we. And that's why we're listening to this. And it's like,

there was a day when it wasn't just Yankees versus Red Sox. It was like, I don't agree with what they're talking about on that side than that issue. But that issue, I'm on the same page. When it comes to this issue, I am on the same page as Tim Burchett. Now, he was on a podcast. This is on, I don't know what this is from. This is from the Sean Ryan show, from the Sean Ryan show. And this is, and here is the clip. Lou Elizando, he's somebody I've tried to get on here numerous times.

And it's like, I don't think it's going to happen. But what did he want to talk to you about? Just about. Because this guy is supposedly. He was on the inside. They claimed they didn't have this organization. And yet he was on the, he was, he was that organization. He was $11 million, I think, funded, I believe at that time,

that funded. It was a senator out of a Nevada Democrat. And he was part of the Skin Walker Ranch thing, too. The research there, federal government did there. And he headed up that department. And they said, you know, basically it doesn't exist. And then sure enough, there he was. He was running it.

And again, you know, the tail doesn't know what the rest of the body's doing, you know. And it's just, that's government. That's compartmentalized government. That's, it's just too big. So what did, what did he want to talk to you about? I think Lou, he's a dear friend, actually. Is he? Yes, he is.

he um we stay in contact pretty regular not telepathically but um he uh i think he just wanted to encourage me he just said leo you're you're on the right path on this thing dude you're you're you know and um and i and i've talked to him periodically about ideas i've had and people if i think that they are legit are these stories and you know i say i sort of got this feeling on this one here. And I don't know that I trust Lou because he was with the government, but I do, as much as I trust any of these cats, but

he's not lied to me yet. He's not steered me wrong. And, you know, he's the real deal. And, you know, he was kept, as a lot of them are, he would probably, I don't know that he was, I don't know he put his hands on anything

physically, but he probably kept at arm's length that, you know, when he would get close, they would move it or do something else. So that was the interview they gave him. Now, Lou, all right, so Lou actually responded and he said that we have some courageous men and women in Congress like Tim Burchett. History is going to be kind to him. And then someone followed up this Tony Rebside.

Lou, it feels like we were trying to scale a mountain at the moment. Are we going to reach the summit to which Lou says, simply put, yes, but not in the way that many think or even want. But once we are there, the view will be amazing. Keep the faith. Much, much more is coming. It is becoming increasingly difficult by the gatekeepers to hold back the flood. It's coming and it's soon. Remember, it's a process, not an event. In the meantime, stay tuned.

So this is, and again, how much we know about, he was the former director at the AATIP. He's a disclosure advocate with Burchett. So Burchett's working with a lot of these people now in this guy. I mean, kind of putting through that same message that James Fox and Ross Colhart and all these people are talking about. and saying that within the next year, it's going to start happening. And I guess- You feel it. You, I mean, people are talking about it more than it.

There's no doubt about it. And there's more coverage on it, and maybe not the mainstream coverage that maybe you and I would kind of hope for. But there's always coverage, there's always people talking about stuff that's always these things. But then there's bigger people like Burchett and this guy out there talking. And I think that what he said, though, is very, very interesting, which is, it's getting harder and harder for the gatekeepers to keep it quiet.

Right. That really stuck with me. Me too. And that goes back to the conversation that you and I had either last week or the following week. And that is, you know, those two guys that we talked about, the two Brooklyn guys, just sitting in the in the office going, I don't know, man, listen. I think, I think the, I think the, the jig is up. I think it's up because, you know, I try to try to tell people they're crazy now and they tell me, I'm crazy because I'm not showing them where alien

alien B is. He's under the rug. Lift it up. It's the basement. There's a latch. It's the basement. I'm just saying like these two guys or whatever. You know,

the government themselves, like this organization for the longest time that was able to hold it. Like maybe they're just like, okay, maybe it's eventually we knew it was good. Because you think they thought they could hold it quiet like forever? Or did you think that?

that eventually they knew it was going to pop and when it did they have a plan. Because yeah, that conversation, you know what I'm saying? The government, I think relies on stigma. Um, absolutely relies on people going, no, see here. There you know, they want that. That's an extra layer of defense for them. That's my belief. Um, and to hear Bershett talk about this guy as a friend, um, he says he, you know, he, he gives the caveat he's a Democrat you know and that they've worked together that's a big that's a big thing

that I think you know I love to see because sooner or later everybody's going to have to reach across the island work together you know and I mean I think that that absolutely needs to happen especially if one of these effort comes out of the sky and points of ray gun that does well it's true but don't

but don't you think though don't you think though that like I was asking you know with if you're this program that's been around since like the 40s or 50s are this idea of keep it quiet, make sure that they think it's BS. Let's have this, if you believe in it,

which I do, I believe the same thing that kind of essentially what Grush is saying and what Bertetta's saying of these many, many government officials and X program people have been saying that there's this organization that keeps it quiet and doesn't say anything. But if you come up with this plan that you got to keep it quiet, whether it's 1941 or 1988 one or whatever, at one point you've got to say,

what's our long game? Do we think we're going to keep it quiet forever? Or do we have a plan that when it's time, that this is what we need to say? Is there a, this is what we need to say plan? Or is it just like, just keep it quiet until everybody's gone?

I think the human race can be exceptionally, you know, afraid to look beyond the horizon, you know, and is only concerned with what, it's in front of them. And with stuff like this, my belief is that, that we can't, they're going to keep it secret for X, Y, and Z, whether that's research, you know, reengineering, all these different things that we've talked about, Christian, right? Yeah. We are not, that, that isn't a time,

like it's a time capsule in my mind. No social media, no, you know, barely television sets, you know, the advent of the communication super highway of the internet that we have now is so different back then. And nobody's looking forward saying sooner or later, we're going to be able to, I'm going to be able to Google something. What's Google? We'll get there. I'm going to be able to Google this and talk about this. No, I think that as time has gone on and technology has advanced us, things are changing left and right. I don't think they thought that far ahead.

They want to hide it as long as possible is what they think. Well, I think that, but I think both cases could be true because it's just like, it's just what if I'm just saying like eventually it's like what if what if there's just proof that somebody has that you can't hide? Like what, because also they can't what if they, because you're sitting in a room and you're, you're part of this group. If you and I are part of this group that keeps it quiet for a long time. We're like, yeah, let's keep it quiet as possible. Like, okay, but hear me out. what if these things land in the middle of a baseball game and start going like this? Right.

What are we going to do? What's your plan? What's our plan? They have to, they do. That's what I'm saying. They've got to have some kind of plan of like what they're going to is because they can't control what the things are going to do.

Like if it's just a thing, even if it's an alien, even if it's just the thing that lands and it just falls out of the sky one day and it lands in the middle of a city. Oh, we never knew about this. Oh, that's, that's new to us. where's will smith Tommy Lee like that's what I'm saying so it's like they got to have I'm just that that we'll even know what that plan is but they've got to know they've got to have a a plan

I'm sure they do I it's just I really as you were talking about that it really does it does fall to I believe the media right and and and and and the media is it what's that you fault the media I think it falls on the media and us to have the media to start trying to get some of this out there. And if that's not working, which it doesn't, I mean, Channel 7 was like, no UFOs. You know, they immediately went to the aliens in space, you know, wizards and dragons and I always put them together

because that's what it's like to say they want to debunk or whatever. But anyways, I think the internet changed. The internet changed this because years ago. And humans need to do. And that was my point. Go to the internet, do some research. Start to, we need to as a society, start to demand answers. And make the noise on social media.

Well, that's what it is. It's like you look at it because as you and I were getting frustrated, nobody was kind of covering it on the mainstream. And I think that's just kind of embedded into our brains that, well, if they're not covering it on the mainstream, people aren't going to know about it. And then, like, wait a minute. The interview with Grush from that YouTuber got over a million views. and more so and picking up. I might even have more than that, the stuff that he was on the hill, the stuff that was on News Nation, these other documentaries.

You got Ryan Graves podcast. You have all these different things. There's noise out there. There's a lot of noise out there. And it's the thing because I think that that's one of the things that this guy's talking about is that back in the day, the media could be controlled. And essentially, it still is controlled. The mainstream media is still controlled.

You know, I think there's a reason why these things aren't reported on the mainstream media. And that's controlled for sure. And we're not getting the coverage there. Newspapers can be controlled. It's still a while, while west on the internet. And it can't be controlled. Yeah, that's one of the reasons that they're going, oh, what do we do, man? Listen, you know, I had Anderson Cooper's not talking about it. Nobody on Foxes. I got these guys. They're done. But then you got these two jerkoffs on the big thing, whatever that is. And they're talking about cake aliens and the people are talking about.

I mean, we live in a time. We live in a time. We live in a time. And, you know, the internet, social media is just a game of telephone. By the time one thing can land and gets to you, you know, you're like, what? I didn't know that Biden is an actual alien and he resurrected Michael Jackson and, you know, we're all at peace now. I think, yeah, well, one of the things we will talk about, I do want to get. We have two more things.

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So this is, I don't know what to, I don't know what to. I really don't, yeah. We don't know what to say. I'm going to bring this up first. All right, Riley. So here we go. This is now, for those people who are just tuning in for the first time and don't know about this.

story. And a couple of weeks ago, they had a hearing or was like a presentation, really, the Mexican government, you know, they had their hearings and brought these little guys forward. At the end of it, they presented these bodies that they said were alien bodies and it caused a lot of people to do the because of me. I went, ah, myself included. At first I was like, oh man, this is amazing. This is it. This is what we've been talking about. And then, I think it was last week or two weeks ago, you and I talked about the guy that made this presentation said that there were going to be people studying the bodies. And then you'd find out once they started studying the bodies that it wasn't because there was memes going on. The reason we're calling it cake babies is because there

was a guy who made a really funny video of the actual aliens and you cut it open. It was cake. It was hilarious. Look delicious. Now, I don't know if NASA per se has done the test, but And again, not telling you anything else except what I'm showing you here today. These two videos I want to show you, make your own. Please have the conversation about it. I'm going to obviously do that with Riley right now. But here's this video. This is from the telegraph.

It says Mexican doctors have carried out tests on the remains of the alleged non-human beings. Now, anything for the audio listeners that come up on. Now, they're looking with the bodies. Both bodies and Mexico thresholds, presented recently to Mexico of com. The first study

was a computerized of a second was a second study was from the doctor.

And the third was a fluoroscopy studies. We've tried to see the structure. In the three

studies, we've tried to of the skeleton and of the bodies were able to

that it does belong to a single skeleton that has not been joined to other

people. of a single piece integral that no evidence of any espeteenth or manipulation of skull as a claim. The bodies have sparked conflict between the scientific community and the Korean government who claim that there are pre-Hispanic objects. I mean, it looks like a model out of a thing. That looked like a clay sculpture.

It didn't, it looks fake. Then there's this one. This is from M.K. Jesse, the, this is a radiologist from the University of Colorado Hospital who also examined the bodies. And here's what she says. I mean, you know, you hear this stuff. And it's like, yeah, I don't know. It's the same thing. It's like I, I'm not discrediting either one of those doctors that we just saw. But I almost feel like I feel like one of the commenters in the, in the video who's like, skeptics. and where it's like, okay, but where are the, we're the Harvard doctors. Where are the, you know, where's the, where's the NASA guy, they said they were going to do it. Where's, where's, where the government officials standing over this thing, doing that. Like, that's the thing that drives me crazy where if this is a potential, like if both, and they're not necessarily saying anything except that these are something, this is all the same. Neither one of those doctors said this is alien.

Neither one of those words are not coming out of their mouth. They just don't know what the hell it is. I mean, it's also possible. Who knows? Maybe there's another species that we never discovered on this planet that were running around the joint. They got extinct. Who knows? That my mind went there.

My mind went to, you know, in certain cultures, how they could manipulate and in ritual. They can stretch and move the human body in ways that we can't believe. you know, it's like what if, you know, it sounds crazy. My mind goes there. But if like at birth they're like doing something with the bones and making it this way through like timed together and stretch. I don't know. But these are more, there are smarter people out there.

To your point, Christian. Yes, I want like now move along. Neil deGrasse said when you get the data, you start to share it around the scientific community. And I want more of that. been it's amazing how he's been more and more so has been really hurting his legacy more than anything and over the last like i don't know it's a couple months i used to see such a different perspective of him when someone would comment on him now he's gotten a bit arrogant he's gotten

a bit pompous he is like i think that also like it david grush by the way i didn't see this david grush roasted him did you see him really no roasted all i missed all i missed I got to find this. I see if I can find it. Oh, my God. Let me get the popcorn. Hold on. All right.

So actually, yeah, David Grush challenged Neil DeLegress Tyson to a debate. And I love, I really love David Grush in general, but I love me more after this. Like, you haven't seen this. I miss this. Okay. Wow. Okay. You can make any sense.

You know, I don't like throwing shade, but like Neil McGrass Tyson, right? Oh, yeah. He's made up his mind. I read, I've read his tweets. And I'm like, dude, you have a PhD in physics? Where's your curiosity? I can't even believe. There's no evidence that would convince an authentic skeptic.

I have credentials too, and I'm happy to go toe to toe with you. Yeah, if he wants to debate me, I'd be fine. Let's do it. I think the best point he made it. I don't think you need anything other than that. He's physicist, doesn't he curious? I love that, right? I mean, that's because, yeah, lately,

he's, every time there's some kind of thing that gets people talking online, comes in there to just kind of like he's like a wet blanket yeah he just comes in like turn off the lights go to bed let me see i just got to play the audio one more time hold on okay he's made up his mind i've read his tweets and i'm like dude you have a phd in physics where's your curiosity i can't even believe you're the big scientific communicator well i think you should probably retire it's just it's just so it's it's just ridiculous it's smug and it's i know everything and it's i went to this elite university so i have the credentials to like tell you what you should think instead of of exploring these kind of really exciting open-ended questions.

Should we count how many times he said the universe was 13.8 billion years old and just be like, you were wrong. You were, uh, yeah, yeah. Credentialism, you know, and it's like, well, I have credentials too. And I'm happy to go toe to toe with you. Yeah, if he wants to debate me. Oh, that I would think I would say. Yeah, yeah.

Let's do it. Gary Nolan and I will debate Tyson. No. Was it? Who's another, uh, Brian Cox? Bring it. Bring it. I love.

I love. where I absolutely love where David Grush is at right now. I think David Grush is a different, he's on a different plane right now, man, because like, he knows things we don't. Well, but it's not just that.

I mean, that's a big part of it, though, right? Of course it is. But what I mean is that if David Grush tries to do what he did in 1985, he's going to be looked at as just as crazy as other people that

I mean, whatever you believe about Bob Lazar, these other things, too. He's going to be in that same category at that point. Yeah. He, he, like, this is a different, this is a different guy. Like, even, even the fact that he's going, yeah, I'll debate, Negras Tyson. I'll debate these people and talk. I, I know what I'm talking about. I know what I've seen.

I know what I've been. Like, it's people like Neil deGrasse Tyson who actually hurt the scientific community. He's not, not helped. I was going to add, I think it would be a fantastic idea to not even call it. You don't call it a debate either. It's like we have to, social media has to make everything about putting two people against each other. Wouldn't it be great if DeGrasse Tyson and and Grush just sat down and talked? I would love to see that.

Just sit there and talk and disagree all you want. Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I shouldn't say he won't do it because I've seen, I've seen him debate people on very different arguments. The question is he going to talk over him? And is he going to like, yeah, because that's the point that I saw too. Yeah, he's become kind of smug. You know what? And it's like, we're just, we're asking questions.

That's all. And I still am like, okay, you know, Neil the grass, shut up. What are you saying, Rush? What's going on? It's, I would rather, like, I can't remember the guy's name and it's, and I feel bad that I don't. But like, I bring it up when I saw after the hearings and when James Fox was on, he was on a skeptic show. And there was one guy who, and James Fox had his dukes up ready to go after the guy, right? And then, and he said something about like, I can't remember what it was.

But then, but the guy is very complimentary to James Fox and his movies. Like, I've seen your movies. Movies are great and everything too, but I just have a lot of questions. And it was in the way that DJ was on our show, right? And there were certain things that James Fox said to him. The guy's like, okay, I can see your point. And he had a conversation. I don't think there's any world where even if.

Neil deGress Tyson is talking to David Grush and Grush says something to him that's like, oh, maybe he's not. This is why I'm right. This is why I'm right. This is why I'm right. And he absolutely represents a lot of people out there that unless you got to put, and he has said this though, Neil LeGrasst Tyson that I think that once you present

the evidence that he can't say, all right, well, I got nothing on that. Once you present that, he was actually, as we talked about on our show two weeks, go he said out of all of it the the the the the alien bodies were the ones that at least they presented something whether fake or not they they presented something yeah so he I don't that I get yeah that there are points to be made yeah you know you're not to classify everything is like one thing is said and then right right you know you know people could change their minds

as well over this and perhaps you know if evidence released we're talking about it a lot and all of these people that are out there saying, you know, to Breschette, you know, you're close. Maybe in the next year. Maybe in the next year.

What are they talking about? Because that would like all the way back, again, the Tick-Tac video is where I really went. That was the most legit. That was when we had the New York Times article then's coming out. And things start to spread in the, and that experience I had way back.

in Michigan in 2009. That's crazy to now put everything together and there's, there's where there's smoke, there's fire. You don't have to say they're aliens or from the planet, you know, numb nuts in the freaking milky way. I think most of people on this planet on numb nuts. I mean, yeah, this is planet num nuts.

You know, population. We are on planet num nuts. I hate to tell you. I hate to say it. I know, I know. But, all right, so here's what maybe what we can potentially do. Maybe on the digital shows, maybe even on the Patreon show when we start doing it. That might be actually a good idea for the Patreon shows to do something what we're about to do right now.

UAP Twitter always has new stuff. They always have, we don't know. Riley and I will look at a few videos and then we'll call it a day and we'll give our opinion on whether we, like, could it be real, possibly don't know, or that looks fake. that's kind of where we're going to go right now. Yeah, I am an expert, having seen one myself. Yeah, you go. So, you know. Let's get to it.

Here's the first one. This is over LaGuardia in New York, so there's one of the hotspots. There it is. Are you kidding me? Hold on. Are you serious right now? What is that? Oh, yeah, I saw it.

Getting closer to it. What the fuck is that? There's a dot. I know that could be any. Yeah, it's hard. It could be anything. I mean, I don't,

I don't buy that one. I don't think it's fake. You think it's fake? Yeah. You think it's fake. I think it's fake. I think that was a set up TikTok video. Oh, you do?

What is that, bro? What is that? What is that, man? you know the only reason i don't think it's that is because it it's not like what kind of like it just doesn't look like anything except a little dot yeah it looks like a little dot it looks god it doesn't look like if you're making a fake you know tic tic tic video is like all right you know what make it like zip off or do that too it's like yeah it's following i don't know it's also terrifying to consider that's true too i hate all line as is

Right. You know, it's like really, you know, now you're going to trail us. Right. You know, yeah. All right. So that, so that one we both. I don't know. I don't know.

I mean, in the end, it could be real, but, you know, it seems staged to me. I think it's a real video. I just don't necessarily think it's, I don't know what it is because it's like, it could be, it could be anything that's trailing it. It could be. Who knows what it? It wasn't, the footage wasn't close enough to me for to say anything. All right. So that's, that's one that.

That's not a crazy one that, but it's like, I understand it. Here's a next one. All right, let's see what this one is. This is, um, let's just, boy. What the hell is that? That's freaky. That's great. Say again, like that looks really good.

And like, this is where I go. I don't know what's, I don't know what's not, but this is also one of the things that they said before with those, our hotspot topic of today is that most of the ones that you are usually a part of these bright lights out in the sky, right? And so that's exactly what that is. And it could be anything. I don't know.

The protections of the sun from, you know, it looks real. It looks legit. I mean, it looks legit. Right. It's, I don't know. That one looks, yeah, it looks. I mean, I think that looks like something. It looks like something.

I mean, you know, the blue angels in formation and, you know, the sun is shining on all. that I mean, it looks explainable. Does that make any sense to you, Christian? Yeah. Like the idea is like, that could be something, but boy, it's weird and I can't describe it. Right. Now this is where, okay, so this is kind of my point.

If you're watching this show and you're like, I don't know what I believe. I'm not sure. I like listening to Riley, Christian talk about this thing. But look, I saw that light, those lights, those lights look like something. I don't know what that is. The New York one looks like something. And when I turn this one on, this is when you go, yeah, guys, I'm out, at least for me. So this is this is one that let's watch.

Yeah, yeah. This is apparently from the 1960s. And this is supposed to be for people who are listening. This is an actual alien creature. And look at the foot. He's letting him do a profile of him. He's got nice pants on. Got his whole jacket going.

Now, what I will say about this thing, what I would be so curious about, now I don't believe this, World War III, it's going. Now, not in an instant, do I believe that that is real. However, what I would love to do, what I would love to have one of the kids from,

from the Zimbabwe case, and say, Did it look anything like that? Did it look anything like that? That's all. That's all I'd want to know. Because that footage, I mean, come on. There is a universal.

There's kind of a universal representation of aliens. They call them the gray aliens that are out there, right? The big heads, the eyes, and various incarnations of that, that being one of them, that they put a nice, you know, the gap outfit on this alien in particular. Yeah. Well, that's what they said. I bring up the Zimbabwe one because remember the kids said that they're wearing like the the black like kind of tight suit yeah and I mean there's various you know um you know the the the big

eyes and the in the gray act some people have said that they're actually space suits and they're underneath and that's fire in the sky actually that right well in there and then it came out of it communion I think is another one well the Varschina case said that the thing was not wearing anything I had the oily body and sulfur smell and all that. This is two more here. This one to me looks about as CGI as you get. Yeah. But I want to see what you think, Riley,

see if you agree or disagree and see what the audience says. I want to get the audiences take on all these two. Yeah, everybody drop in the comments. And when I say this, like I said, this is, we prefaced this by saying, when you go, when you dive deep on the UFO, you at me Twitter, you come up with stuff like this all the time.

I don't know what's... Have fun. Yeah, it's just, it's what you can find is like certain reports with the bodies, with the aliens, you know, the things that the stuff that I found with Burchett and those things. You can't find the nuggets of stuff that actually is the real news. And I don't know, I'm not saying that this isn't, but this one to me doesn't look real. This is apparently two jets chasing down a UAP. Yeah, it looks like they're flying into Bespin. Right.

That does not look. Yeah, that does not look real. And he's able to track it that easy? No, that does. What is that? No. No, that's, that's, that's, yeah, that's, that's, that's terrible.

That's, I mean, does anyone think that looks real? Is anyone, I mean, if you do, you do, but I, that, that's, that's terrible. Completely ridiculous. That looks, that looks terrible. Um, we'll do, we'll do one more, Riley. It's fun to play with, with stuff like that. And what if? It is.

Actually, you know, this one's actually hilarious. I don't want it to be purported as real. That's where it gets, you know. But that's my point. That's the reason when this, when this stigma kind of comes up. Yeah. If you're,

if you're searching this, if you're searching this stuff, you're like, all right, I'll see what the hell these people are talking about. And you come across this stuff. You're like,

sure it is, as opposed to kind of like the real information that's really out there. Well, that's why they're putting the videos out there that you can go to these action, this actual government website and check it out for yourself. That's right.

But let me play this one because this one, this one I got a kick out of. Can you see it? Yeah. All right. Are you watching? Yep. All right. Did he just get vaporized?

Yeah, they vaporized them. There we go. That's a, you know, I can't believe the media is not covering that. Right. This is what I'm talking about. A man has been vaporized. But that's, but people, people play, man. That's what you get that cake video and you get that.

But there's, but let's, as we end with, as we do the funny stuff. Let's try to end with one that looks decent. And this is one, let's say. Oh, let me find one. Now, this is the kind of stuff that you usually see that people go, well, I can't see any. You see that like, see, you see that right? Yeah, I do.

Now that you're like, well, I could be a star. That could be this. Yeah. This is the sound alone is eerie. But do you watch what happens as it gets closer? I still want to see what happened with that. Oh, look how close that car is. Yes, yeah, there it is.

It looks like a saucer. It looks like something. Like it's spinning. Like it's spinning. Yeah. What it? I don't know. This kind of zips off.

Is that it? Yeah. It just kind of disappears. So that one's hard. Yeah. That one's how it looks, you know, what's the context? You know, who took it? You know, tell me the story.

Because it's darkness and it's, you know, that's where skepticism is, I think, healthy and encourage where you're like, okay, I'm willing to believe that. I was hoping the thing was going to, when you were saying, you're like, oh, I think it's going to do something. If it was about to just go out of the sky, which happened to me, I would have been like, dude, there was another one I saw. I'm going to see if I can find it real quick. And it was one that, like, it moves and like just zips off. And it's, that's the thing.

that everybody has talked about when they like and we're talking at the hearings and we're talking with you know, grush and when he was explaining all these things, you know, when they talk about the speed of these things. Yeah. You know, punching holes in clouds. That is what I saw. It's insane.

I love it's it was yeah. So this day it's a little I'm not sure if I can actually find this one by like, I don't know i guess i guess i miss this one but like well well if you guys like this segment of this yeah um we'll do more of these um because to me it's like yeah to me this is kind of this is kind of fun to do yeah yeah yeah uh but yeah well we'll get we'll get your thoughts on it but that's i think that's it for today we have more stuff that we'll talk about next week and it'll it'll pop up out we've talked about so much today. We've talked about so much. So I'm so curious. And you guys have been really lending your thoughts, telling us what you thought about a lot of the things that we cover, whether you're a full-on believer, whether you're on the fence, whether you're a full-on skeptic.

Let your thoughts be known on all this. Please. It helps out the show tremendously just to hear what everybody's talking about. And anything that we covered here today. But Riley, where can the good kids find you? Follow me at Riley Around R-E-I-L-L-Y All-R-R-E-I-L-Y All-R-R-E-N-W-S stuff, I guess is where you can find me. Please do that because Riley's here every week.

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