The Kristian Harloff Show - US government preparing to announce aliens and UFO origins? New Senate plan revealed!
Episode Date: September 26, 2023PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow More news in the UAP/UFO Phenemonon this week! News came out that the Senate has a full plan for UAP disclosure. It would have a few ...steps for full disclousre on whther or not there are craft/bodies as whistleblower David Grusch testified back in July. There was a nother controversail hearing where supposed alien bodies were displayed. Now the same person who revealed those bodies is saying that NASA has reached out to ask for samples of the bodies. Part of the NASA disclosure program? There were 10 new official videos releases of UFO's that went under the radar. This and more on today's UAP Tuesday with Kristian Harloff and Mark Reilly.
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There's stuff going on.
there's always stuff going on in the world of the UAPs.
What's this whole thing about is the U.S. government
preparing to announce alien life.
That's a new report, a potential report.
There's a Senate, there's a proposed UFOs control disclosure plan
and how it's going to work.
We'll talk about that.
We'll talk about those particular details.
We heard NASA last week.
NASA was talking about the stuff they were going to do.
Well, they also revealed that they have a weapon.
The latest weapon.
It's going to search the heavens for UFOs and aliens.
Outside the realm of just UFOs and UIPs and potential alien life form,
we're still talking about like the universe in general and the galaxy in general,
how cool is it that we're going to get, we have samples from an asteroid that could be billions of years old.
And no one's talking about it.
That's the theme of everything here.
I mean, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
but this could say so much about the universe in general.
It really could be.
So we'll talk about a few of those things there,
and that's kind of where we're at today.
So it's myself and Mark Riley.
It's UAP Tuesday.
Big thing. Let's do it.
All right, everybody, welcome back to the Big Thing, UAP Tuesday.
Thanks for joining me here today on this Tuesday.
And lots to be talked about.
I'm bringing him back.
I always bring them back.
The one, the only.
Welcome back.
I'm fine.
How are you?
Fine, thank you.
How are you?
I'm good.
I got an idea to get people, the UAP, more coverage.
We should send Biden and Trump to an asteroid for a debate.
Right.
And it's true.
That's how we'll actually get it.
Or the Kardashians, one of the two.
Taylor Swift and Kansas City Chiefs.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you what, man.
I just saw, not Taylor,
Swift, but I just saw Ed Shearin at the, at the, I saw that, yeah, so far.
81,000 people that, look, I'm, I'm not going to pretend that I'm a major Ed Shearing fan.
I don't know his music that well, but I'll tell you, I took my daughter, but I'll tell you this,
my man can perform.
Yeah.
Oh, dude, running around the stage for two and a half hours, no break.
Like, I got a lot of respect for that cat, man.
He's, he's, yeah, he's got some really, he's got some really good music.
Um, but nonetheless, we're not here to, because I don't think I,
Sheearns and aliens, so we're not going to talk about it.
But what I will say is, did you, you heard about this thing, the asteroid, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's amazing.
You set it up top.
I mean, the science is amazing right now.
That's why we're talking about all this stuff.
And I've said numerous time, I think technology is going to catch up sooner or later,
where we're all going to be able to catch certain things out there that otherwise we wouldn't
be able to.
But, you know, we talked a couple weeks ago about the guy going down to the bottom of the
ocean and getting something. Now we have it, you know, it's, it's fascinated and consider, you know,
anything that comes out from space. And this one, this one's really fascinating, whether you, you,
UAPs, UFOs, and it, it, this is just really cool, man. And NASA, NASA asteroid sample and safe,
safely in Utah before I'm being whisked away by a helicopter. Scientists are excited over the safe
arrival over a canister containing about a cup's worth of asteroid rocks collected 200 million miles
away and it landed in the Utah desert after a seven-year NASA mission sent to retrieve them.
The black pebbles and dirt are older than Earth, and they are undisturbed remnants of the solar
system's early days of planet formation. As part of an asteroid named Benu, these rocks traveled
unsoiled through space for eons, while bits of asteroids regularly fall into our planets
as meteorites, scientists want to study the material and stuff that's uncontaminated by our planet
to understand their early chemistry that might have contributed to the emergence of life.
That's why scientists immediately whisked the capsule into a nearby clean room and put it under cloak of nitrogen gas to protected from the Earth's atmosphere as it transported to the Johnson Space Center in Houston.
Researchers anticipate getting to open up a sealed sample canister there, either late Monday or Tuesday, something they have dreamed for a while.
They said, today cap the end of an almost 20-year adventure, says Dante Loretta, a planetary scientist at the University of Arizona and the leader of NASA's Osiris Rex mission.
I was fortunate enough to be one of the first people to lay eyes on the capsule and boy, do we stick that landing.
He's eager to start analyzing the asteroid rock to see what surprises it might hold.
We think we have a sample.
Got a lot of sample in that science canister.
We can't wait to crack into it.
So this is pretty awesome.
That's cool.
The older than Earth.
Older than Earth.
And the question is like, it's just what?
All right.
Like what is it?
Like what is it part of a, is, how old is it?
was a part of another planet from years and years and years and years before that too?
Like, what was it?
Like, the effect that they can study that and see what those materials are.
That's, that's, to me, a scientific thing that people aren't talking about still.
Like, a couple people are talking about, but that should be like a major, that should be like a major story.
Thematically, we're going to touch on this every show.
Yeah.
Nobody, it's, it's, don't look up, you know.
It's like we can't look beyond what's in front of.
of us in the circus daily, whether it's life, politics, I don't know, movie. So, you know,
I just think we're kind of setting our ways, you know. How are we going to look up when we're
looking into this? It's the truth, but it's just like, and I'm horrible at this. Yeah.
But I also am trying to take my, my gaze off it. This is fascinating. Just where,
however you want to slice it, if you consider it being older than Earth, like that can
uncover in science and data like so much that you can start to like and it's they said it like
origin of life you know going back if you believe in the big bang theory going all the way
where does it go does it go forever right is it loki falling in space and dr. strange's sanctum
you know it's it's true like what like what is it like and how and how and how much can they
really tell what it is and determined from it and this is like a scientist like wet dream you
I mean. It's like if you're, it really is. It's like if you're, if you're, if you find this, do you see, do you see, do you see, did you see any of the footage from when it actually landed like the sign? It, it looked like it. It looked like I did when the Giants won the Super Bowl. Oh. It's like they were, they were jumping out of their chair and they were screaming. It was, it was, it was a really nice, feel good moment because it was like a major, major move. And I mean, it was it was such a move. It, it made Neil deGrasse Tyson smile for God's sakes. That guy never smiles. And that. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And
And he was on CNN or something.
I saw some video and he was excited about it.
And I think it's a major look.
And does it actually play into any of the energy or anything that we're talking about here?
Is there any other materials that, you know, why not?
Why not?
And it kind of plays into the next story that we're talking about here with the NASA thing.
NASA reveals, and this is from, this came out yesterday, Mark, September 25th,
artificial intelligence and machine learning will be essential to finding and proving the existence of extraterrestrial life and UFOs.
NASA said, not Billy Bob Magoo, NASA.
The Space Agency recently released its highly anticipated 36-page UFO report that said that NASA doesn't have enough high-quality data to make a definitive science conclusion about the origin of UFOs.
Moving forward, AI will be vital to pinpointing enough.
anomalies while combing through large data sets, according to the report, compiled by NASA's
independent research teams on UAPs, and we will use AI and machine learning to search the skies
for anomalies and will continue to search the heavens for habitable reality. NASA administrator
Bill Nelson said during a September 14th briefing, AI is just coming on the scene and will
be explored in all areas, so why should we limit any technological tool in analyzing using
data that we have. Dr. Nicola Fox, NASA's associate administrator, elaborated on Nelson's
point saying AI is an amazing tool to find signatures that are sort of buried in data. That's how NASA
and scientists around the world are going to be able to find the metaphorical needle in a haystack.
NASA's study of UAP is separate from the Pentagon's investigation through the all-domain anomaly
resolution office. Although two investigations are running on parallel tracks that include
corroborative efforts, much like a team of peer reviewers, NASA Commission's
independent study teams is a formal part of NASA's scientific process and such teams
provide the agency external counsel and increased network of perspectives from
scientific experts. There were assigned to pinpoint the data around UAPs and
produce a report that aligns the roadmap how NASA can use its tools of science to obtain
usable data. All right. So there's a lot in there obviously. All right. So there is
also report that Burchett is wary about NASA's claim that it can hiding UAP data, right?
He NASA says there's no evidence.
Burchett says the government has told us that they don't exist since 1947.
So he's very skeptical, obviously.
So my question you, Riley, is that even if they did, and I guess off of Burchett's concern,
let's say they did find stuff.
Who's to say that the same program is like, hey, if you do find something, call us first.
Don't tell the public.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
So he's not buying NASA saying they have.
No.
No, what he said is he told News Nation he doesn't trust what the representatives were telling
him.
He said since 1947, our federal government has told us that these things do not exist.
Now, 60% of the population thinks that we're not alone.
There has been a large bipartisan effort from Congress to manage the transparency.
But Burchett remains skeptical about some of the federal agencies' efforts on
UAPs. He just doesn't. I mean, rightfully so, he doesn't, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, he doesn't
trust. And I, I, I'll be honest. I don't really trust it either. I, I, I like that they're involved in it,
because when they start talking about this kind of stuff, when it's NASA that says that they're searching for
the life, it becomes more credible. Yeah, legit, right? Yeah. It's, you know, everybody's going to
play their cards. I feel pretty close to the.
the fest some of this stuff moving forward and at least that there's an acknowledgement from
NASA that they're something.
They just don't have enough data.
But would I buy that they are like that that's a smokescreen and that they have
something over here that they're like, this might be something.
And they don't want to say it yet.
Yes.
I think that's a possibility as well.
They have access to all these satellites, right?
They have access to all this stuff.
It's NASA, right?
You've got to assume they have their hands and anything outside of Earth.
I mean, they even said it.
That's where they go.
And that's the whole, that's the thing is that it's like, so I don't know.
It's I do, I do find Verchette's concerns viable, right?
Like, because I don't, because I just even, not that I think that necessarily that NASA is part of the, this cover up for so long, but it's like, I just feel like,
they, why wouldn't they get a phone call from those people that are going, hey, don't release that.
Tell us.
And then they go, okay, because we've been coordinating with you guys for years anyway.
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This is from the Daily Mail.
Is the U.S. government preparing to announce aliens?
This is the Senate's proposed UFO-controlled disclosure plan and how it would work.
The Senate passed an act that would require disclosure of UFO evidence.
The act would give government offices three.
hundred days to collect records. A review board would then look at the records before going public.
The government could be forced to disclose if aliens have visited Earth under the new legislation.
The Senate passed an amendment in July that will be part of the National Defense Authorization for
2024. Known as the UAP Disclosure Act, it says government agencies with records sample of craft
or biological material must hand it over within 300 days. President Joe Biden will have 90 days to appoint a
nine-person review board responsible for investigating each record and determining if they are
considered UAPs that should be disclosed to the public.
Any government agency processing such records will be required to hand over printed and
digital copies to the board, which has 180 days to investigate in 14 days to publish their
findings.
The president, however, can vote against disclosing specific evidence if it poses a national
threat.
This is how it would work.
Government's 300-day plan to announce aliens.
1. President has 90 days to choose nine people for the review board.
Two, government hands over all UAP records to review boards in 300 days.
Three, review board has 180 days to investigate each case.
Four, the review board must publish determination within 14 days after review is complete.
The one that I want to get to, O'Reilly, step two.
Governments must hand over UAP records.
The Act states that government offices are 300 days after the date of enactment to hand over the records
to the review board. These offices include the president, the Department of Defense, all military
branches, the Department of Energy, the Director of National Intelligence, the Library of Congress,
and more. The document also names the Manhattan Project would produce the first nuclear bomb.
However, these agencies will return ownership of the UAP records, which they will preserve and secure.
I mean, this is a fascinating article. And it's fascinating. Again, as you said in the beginning of this episode,
it's a theme that we've been saying on the show since we started it.
Why am I reading this from the Daily Mail?
You know what I mean?
Nobody's, yeah, because we have so much going on politics and other things in the United States at least.
I'm all for, right or strike is a major, major thing.
It's a major thing.
It's a huge thing and it's going to probably bring in more work for you and I,
the fact that all the strikes are going to be over.
It's a major story.
Is it bigger than fucking aliens going to be,
It potentially could be revealed to the government to to know.
It's like,
and,
and I speak for for everybody on the big thing,
UAP Tuesday for me and you,
by saying that President Biden should appoint us,
uh,
on that nine person,
uh,
committee to go over this stuff so that we can then bring it to the people here.
Um,
because that's the thing.
But,
you know,
it's so funny,
you're reading this and then I'm thinking about the previous story with
NASA where they're like,
no,
there's nothing out there.
You know,
they're not enough data.
And then this story is like, release the data.
We're going to get that out there.
Are aliens real?
And it's just like, you know when a criminal like commits a crime in one county
and crosses the county line and two organizations and law enforcement get involved
and then they don't want to share their stuff?
Right.
Because it's like that's what it feels like.
It's, you know, and it always for me,
worrisome than I am go down the like you know what do you got are you reverse engineering this
shit I mean that's why you don't want to share but that's the thing though right it's like so
let's say that this thing that they're putting together here this plan that they have 90 days
to appoint the president so Joe Biden overall good though to get this moving I mean it seems
it's speaking it's serious right but it's like all right so Joe Biden he's got 90 days he chooses
nine people right so then we find out who the nine people are and then they hand over this is it's
once we get to stage two i'm like okay two government hands over all uap records through a view
board now if right okay now if trump was supposedly or uh you know give hiding
classified documents in his toilet you don't think that these people are gonna they're gonna
they're going to go like this oh yeah yeah yeah you want the uh which one do you want oh you want
wait oh no no we don't have that one you don't have that one yeah it's i mean i don't know it's like so
the government who's who's i guess who's police in it who's the who's the white erp deep throat
you know yeah yeah who's who's the guy or gal that's going to go okay well look let's we're not
going to tell you when we're coming. We're just going to show up. Give us all the stuff.
Yeah. Like who's, who's doing that? Because we need, we need a Kevin Feige for run everything.
Who's the Kevin Feigey of this plan? Kevin Feigey of all UAP so that there's a representative and,
and, you know, right now it's like, gosh, you know, it's like he seems to be the guy that
is out there kind of, you know, making a name in a face, putting a face. But he's a whistleblower, right? He's
not the guy that's going to be running this stuff.
Right.
That was very well. Yeah.
But who has the ability to know what's,
you know, next to the arc of
the covenant and can come out and say,
listen. And it's going to go after you this,
but yeah. And who's going to go after
him? And then once the, because stage
three and four, you know,
the review board has 180 days
to investigate these case. Again, same thing. I don't
want people, I don't want one person
on that committee. When you say
UAP, they go,
I don't want one person like that.
I want people on there that go that are like, okay, like let's, I want people like, by the way, now I do, I'll say David Grush.
And when they go, oh, yeah, because he's, because he's in it, he was not someone who believed in any of this stuff before he started there.
I want people like that to go, okay, show me the stuff.
Show me the evidence.
And if there's evidence and I'll believe it, that's, I want people who want to, I don't mind skeptics.
I might people who are going to look at it and go, well, wait a minute.
We need good minds on this.
I want somebody that you're going to see an actual alien body and go,
holy shit, that's an alien body.
Yeah.
That's just, I mean, if that's for real, if that's true that they're like, you know,
let's go a few steps further, I guess.
And they get some information and they're able to see alien bodies,
extraterrestrial remains, you know, bodies not of human origin.
Right.
What then?
You know, that still remains for me in even as Grosha said that, you know, he's hinted at it.
That's the one for me that I really want and really am so skeptical, skeptical.
And then the Mexican hearings don't help anything.
But I don't know.
It just, you know, what, God, that would be.
So then step after that.
What do you tell us?
Yeah.
But I don't know.
Again, we're going to go around in circles.
We are so far removed from this and so many aspects of, I mean, you're talking about literal men in black, right?
Right.
But you know, but the difference are really?
I don't know.
I'm starting to, I go back and forth.
I go, I teeter on this every weekend.
I'm not, and I'm not flip-flop, even will say so.
And I'm not ashamed to say it.
Some days I feel like, we're never going to get past this.
not, and no one's going to, no one's going to, it's going to be the same old thing, the same vicious
circle. Then I go, I don't know. In my lifetime, and, and I think maybe, because remember,
before the Roswell was announced as a balloon, that was the all-time fever pitch as far as everyone
believing that aliens had arrived and that craft had, the entire, everyone who knew about that was like,
holy, that's why it was being reported, right? So since then, the legend. Yeah. And since then, this is the most,
Because February, I guess it was 2018 or 2019,
whenever that was on Clyder Live when we watched that,
the grave video.
The TikTok.
Yeah, that was the one that was the New York Times article when that came out.
That was when it became legit.
But then since then, it's been quiet.
This is the most that I've seen more and more people start to go,
wait a minute.
What is that?
But and then the internet also, as much as like hate social media,
I think that it is really benefited this topic too,
because it's very similar to what you always said,
there's only so long with the technology that we have that can go,
oh, no, no, no, nothing to see here.
Because now you've got people sharing it so many different times
and talking about it and different communities.
And you can only put the fire blanket on so many of these fires.
Yeah.
I saw something today on Twitter that looked so legit to me.
Yeah.
And you never know.
I mean, I didn't, you know, but it was over the ocean and it was a cold day.
It looked like, you know, could have been like.
Is this one one went into the water?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it's just flying overhead, just and it looked like the tick-tac.
So that one, that one is being, so let me, let me jump to this next story.
So this is, this is, again, what people don't know.
The U.S. government released quietly.
10 videos.
Yes.
And this is the one that you said.
I actually saw it.
I actually, you know what?
Is that the one?
So that's the one they released?
So that makes sense.
So the one that I said,
the one you're talking about,
to be fair,
I actually saw them talking about it on MSNBC.
And that's where I saw it.
they were talking the reporter was baffled,
didn't understand what it was,
and the guy he was talking about,
I'm not sure who he was,
the expert,
still didn't know how to explain what it was
because I think it's the one of you saw.
I was like zipping really,
really fast going through,
they were following it,
and then it went in the water up,
and then in the water,
they think it's split,
and then they didn't know what happened to it.
Yeah.
So, it's, this is.
So if we take the aliens out of it,
and just crafts and we've talked about hypotheticals and whatnot in theories.
I mean, that, that, that evidence right there, if they're releasing this, what is, like,
why aren't we talking about this every day and getting more?
I mean, Jesus Christ.
And it's quiet, dude.
Is it this like, so quiet and daily mail again, a trench of UFO videos, including
never before seen footage has been quietly released by federal law enforcement.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the agency responsible for key.
terrorists and their weapon out of the country.
Again, not Billy Bob Magoo.
The US Customs and Border Protection uploaded 10 videos,
10 that appear to show craft moving in strange ways in our skies.
Videos released on August 9th without a warning,
a press release, or much way of context,
only be discovered by UFO enthusiasts on online suits earlier this week.
The videos document a fighter jet pursued by an apparently baffling flying orb
orb as well as something that appears to be a propeller-powered hang glider and yet another
apparent floating orb hovering this time parking a 16-wheeler truck. The drop itself, which
offered little detail regarding the times and locations of these sightings, plus more than a few
sweeps redactions has left more than questions answers. The quiet video dropped,
follow rising tensions within the corridors of powers in Washington on the once taboo subject of UFOs.
Open hearings, federal legislation, and brand-new government offices have now been dedicated
openly to the investigation of these aerial mysteries with at least one former U.S. intelligence
official calling the strange sightings a national security issue. The U.S. Customs and Border Patrol
uploaded 10 videos that appear show craft moving in strange ways. One video documents a fighter jet
pursued by an apparent flying orb in which key technical details from the agency's
infrared camera displayed. The most significant is the USCB release confirms at least tactically the veracity
of a heavenly scrutinized,
2013 thermal UFO video leaked to UFO researchers in 2015.
For the first time,
April 2013,
Puerto Rico has been confirmed.
That was the one,
the Puerto Rico one.
So I'm going to keep this.
I'm going to play some of the video over it when I'm talking about it.
That's great.
Yeah, the videos are released on a dedicated site for agency records.
But yeah, there's tons of this stuff.
This is, we're getting on the Defense Department side,
50 to 100 reports per month,
and it's happening globally.
It's happening overseas.
it's happening off the East Coast and the West Coast.
It says Chris Mellon,
formerly with the Secretary of Defense for Intelligence,
praised U.S. Customs for the UFO record drops.
So there's tons of new stuff coming out.
And again, tons of it.
One wind in there.
Sorry, sorry, finish, Chris.
You know, guys, it's quietly being dropped.
Quietly.
It's like, should I push upload?
Yeah, it's like when they were doing the Disney Plus uploads at midnight.
Yeah.
It's like, drop it at 4 in the morning.
And maybe no one will know.
notice it. Yeah, key line in there that he did just, just slam me. And it's the once taboo topic of
UAPs, quietly uploading these videos. It's like there is a, the stigma needs to be broken.
Because again, to your jug, you know, Chris Christie saying what he said in the Republican
debates and then coming back on it when there was interest. You know, there is that
gigantic block in how many people would you say out there?
wanting to listen, wanting, like there's us.
Yeah.
There are skeptics that are like, like DJ, like, who was like a little bit skeptical, but is a little.
You know, little and then, but wanting to get, you know, evidence based behind it.
There are so many different people out there once taboo, though.
That's it.
You know, might as well say we have footage of a wizard turning a horse into a dragon.
It's still, that's the same thing, though, right?
because you can't get that's it's one of those things that DJ brought this up and I saw this too
which I just like they're talking about how sometimes you they thought the things are moving
really fast were actually moving kind of slow this thing that you saw is moving at an incredible
speed it's like an incredible speed it's like every once in a while maybe that happens but
every single time no but the problem is using the DJ as an example even this footage
which going underwater in the 10 videos it doesn't answer his questions
as far as like, how is it anything else than what he thinks it might be,
whether he still thinks it's weather anomalies and,
and all this other stuff.
It's like,
this footage,
as cool as it is for us and the fact that they're more,
they're more so doing it and releasing more of and showing all these different reports
that are coming out.
They're not going to convince people like DJ yet until,
or my wife or your wife,
they're not going to convince them yet until it's like one of these things where,
our next story that I'll talk about here is,
you know,
they're actually NASA is going to actually do a,
a sample of those ET alien bodies.
With the,
from the Mexican?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fine.
Let me read this.
I heard this.
Yes.
Let me read it.
Let's get to the bottom of this and I hope it's not cake.
All right.
This is an exclusive.
This one came out on September 22nd as well.
NASA contractor will reportedly study 1,000-year-old alien corpse that was presented to Mexico's Congress.
a NASA contractor is reportedly looking to study alien bodies that were presented to Mexico's Congress during a controversial UFO hearing.
Jamie Mousin, a veteran broadcast journalist and prolific urologist who presented the corpses last week,
told the Daily Mail.com that an unnamed third-party contractor has been in contact with him about carrying out a DNA investigation, potentially on behalf of U.S. space agents.
The news comes just one week after NASA's top UFO investigator, Dr. David Spritz.
was pressed about the purported alien corpse and did not shut them down entirely.
Dr. Spurgel told reporters, we don't know the nature of these samples.
My recommendation is if you have something strange, make samples available to the world scientific community and we'll see what's there.
Misan had first unveiled the pair of alleged 1,000-year-old bodies reportedly unearthed in a Peruvian cave during UFO hearings held by the General Congress of the United Mexican States,
unleashing an international firestorm.
While Mousan heralded the body's discovery
is one of the most important in human history,
his presentation has sparked an outcry
from numerous scientists, anthropologists,
and even some dedicated UFO researchers.
This week, the temperature of the debate climbed higher
with Peru's Minister of Culture filing criminal charges,
accusing Mousan and his collaborators
of robbing the bodies from ancient graves.
As of 2022, Peru's culture ministry has designed
approximately 26,000 protected archaeological sites across the country, but has faced budget constraints
in its efforts to secure these valuable artifacts from black market antiques dealers.
But as Massan told the Daily Mail, I personally went to the Ministry of Culture to ask them to do the investigation to get involved in this finding.
They never did.
We tried many times.
We sent letters.
And let me tell you something else.
Masson asked, you remember NASA saying that this should be investigated and so on?
a contractor from NASA took the challenge.
They are a laboratory dedicated to the reading of DNA.
Despite several attempts by the Daily Mail via phone and email,
NASA's Office of Public Affairs could not be reached for comment.
Plot thickens, Riley.
So for his part, Mousin expressed concern that too much transparency too early
could upset the delicate investigation, which he says are now underway.
When asked by the Daily Mail,
Misan declined to identify the NASA contractor by name,
contractor from NASA. That's all I can tell you. I won't tell you the name. I want to keep it
private until they can do their investigation. But the Mexican broadcaster, who was once
chief investigator reporter and editor of 60 Minutes, the country's affiliate of 60 minutes,
was nevertheless willing to speculate on the NASA's contractors' next steps. I think they're going
to Peru. They're coming to Mexico, to check on the bodies, to take samples. They want to do
their own DNA investigation, and we said, yes, we are open to. Rassan's efforts to garner
professional scientific interest in the potential of alien specimens from Latin America has spawned
years with setbacks and success, but never before the level of international scrutiny.
So, I mean, look, this is what I will say.
I still, I still smell a fart.
Yeah.
But it, you know, it, but the thing is this, this guy's either telling the truth,
or he's a full psychopath.
Yeah.
Because if he now decides, watch this.
I'm going to go in front of the government.
I'm going to go in front of the government.
Hey, look at this.
Oh, look at his little body.
Yeah, my friends made this.
And then if he did that, and then he goes,
NASA called me and they want to do a thing.
And even if NASA didn't call it,
and NASA called me. Why not? But, you know, I'm not going to give you the name. I'm not going to tell you what they are.
And he's just pretending. It's like you're, you're destroying your credibility at all. And he's always going to be the, oh, that's the, that's the guy at the hearing.
However, however, if this guy turns out to be Jeff Goldblum, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, we're sitting here going. I don't know. I smell a fart. And he's going, okay.
stupid NASA's calling me and they're going to do it
because this plays
into the fact that goes back to our previous
story. If NASA starts
let's say that
they come up with these samples and they actually do
something and they tell President Biden
this is one of the cases that you guys should
put together that committee.
And it's one of the things and then they go
oh by the way those little alien bodies
we don't know what those are and we think they
are actually extra direct. And then
that guy is no longer a lunatic.
Right, right.
goes one way can go either way
I guess either way we'll wait and see
I mean yeah it has so much intrigue in the story
too who's this guy just
NASA guy it's a NASA guy that I'm talking
What's his name? Don't worry about it
Don't worry about it it's having our barredem
from no country for old men
Right right right
You know it's like that's where my mind goes
It's like I'm talking to a NASA guy
Yeah where are we meeting we're meeting by this cliff
Right
In Washington
There's no cell service out there
Great. Bring everything. I don't know. I know. It could be anything. It's it. It is. It's just it also. I don't know enough about the guy to where he's he would build really like if if it was fake and he was just trying. And like I said, what he probably should have done if it was fake to which I don't I, I'm just not buying it. But it's still, yeah, it's hard to buy that he's that he's still going. Yeah. Yeah. You know, here here's the here they are. I got them.
And I'm going to, and you want to take samples, go ahead.
Good.
And take samples then.
He's not saying, if he was like, oh, yeah, I don't know where they are now.
I don't know where they are now.
Or, oh, yeah, I don't want anybody else to look at them.
They're for me.
Then I'm like, okay, guy.
But he's saying, yeah, yeah, go ahead and study them.
Like, that, that's, I do go like this.
Yeah, I'm doing that too, because wouldn't it be so funny?
You know, it went viral, you know, that TikToker, yeah, the cake.
That's hilarious.
for it to come out that they're okay and NASA could very well go inconclusive we don't have enough data yet we're going to go back and that to me would even be more a little bit more legit in my eyes it'd be like what okay but it hasn't but it hasn't been completely debunked yet that's what I know I keep checking no it hasn't and that's yeah that's the thing is that what people are what people keep saying that oh they have been those bodies were were we're
I mean, there was 2017, there were similar ones that were, I guess that were, but I mean, the people are just like, well, of course, if they're similar, then it's probably the same things. But they haven't had somebody like a NASA or somebody else. That's when I'm going to go, okay, case closed. Get out of here, you lunatic. This is, this is, they just did the, they just did the samples. And it's not aliens. It's from whatever it was. You'd rob these graves and there, these people, these villages.
from years and years ago and you robbed their graves now beat it and stop and you you can't
talk about UFOs anymore however however if they check it and it's like nope he was right
Jeff Goldblum you know what I mean life found away yeah yeah and I love
I love Goldblum in Jurassic Park I'm talking about Goldblum in Independence Day
Independence Day yeah I know yeah everybody thought he was nuts
It's I'm waiting for it.
I'm waiting for it.
It's hard.
Again, I'm, I'm,
I'm, I'm the one that's like on the UFO show doing the aliens a leap for me.
I'm waiting for that.
I'm most skeptical about alien bodies.
Yeah.
And maybe, okay, let's, let's throw this out there.
It's, it's mostly because of what we talk and touch on in every episode.
And that's the government's inability.
to shed light on anything.
Right.
So for me, it's like,
they would have said something and they would have shown something
who would have been so monumental to know that there would be in an alien life
or extras or non-human, that they have that,
as Gresh was alluding to, that we would hear something.
But then I just answer my own question.
You know, I say that in a rant and I'm like, yeah, why would they?
This is going on.
I know.
And why would people even care, it seemed, or the media.
the news it that's that's the interesting question as i brought up earlier in the show right right it's
like we are getting to a place whether it is shows like ours bigger news outlets like news nation
or the hill whatever it was covering this all the time even msnbc was just covering the same video that you
did more and more people are talking about it i saw CNN talking about it with even so the alien
bodies by the way what i will say is this and before before i jump over to the next thing
Neil DeGrasse Tyson when he was talking about that asteroid on the same CNN.
What's the what's the report?
Aaron Kimmer name is around forever.
Anyway, so CNN was talking to him and she asked him about the asteroid and he was getting excited about the asteroid what it can mean.
Then she asked him about the about the Mexican bodies.
He didn't poop on it in the way that you thought that he would.
He said he thought it was fascinating in the way that it was brought up.
Let me see if I can find.
that audio hold on all right i want to play this this this whole thing with um nil digress thysen because
i actually think it's it's pretty interesting of everything we're talking about plus the alien body
stuff let's talk about the other side of ufos right congress has a hearing uh on on ufos and so people
are talking about ufos and aliens in a more serious way than than you know being on the front of the
national inquire the way it used to be um so a mexican journalist displayed
bodies of two supposed non-human beings in the in Mexico in front of the
Congress in Mexico okay each with three-fingered hands and elongated heads now
before we all mock the video right it's because it's gotten a lot of mocking
it looks a lot like E T but as I said NASA just announced for the first time a
director of research on UFOs so they are taking this overall topic more seriously
what's your take on this well first of all I like what they did and
Mexico. They had what they claimed are alien bodies. They brought it out in front of their Congress.
That's better than leaving them in a lockbox and saying you and no one else can get to see them.
That's a start. But in science, a new truth, an objective truth, is only established when multiple labs
can analyze whatever your claim is. When we brought rocks back from the moon, we distributed them
to all the labs of the world. So everybody participated in that discovery.
So here, bring out samples to others and let other people, skeptical people in other labs, test this.
So either verified or falsified and then we move on.
And that's what I'm saying, right?
That's, I couldn't agree more of this exactly about the thing.
Yeah.
I agree with him 100%.
I agree with him 100%.
And he's hoping to it.
And he said that, but he said what a lot of people actually were saying the opposite to it, which is crazy, considering he's been one of the biggest skeptics in general.
He said, look, at least they brought bodies out.
He said, instead of going, oh, we think we got back there, they brought something out.
That's the biggest point, too, that I like to make.
It's like, don't just say it's like that transparency is going to get us somewhere to break that stigma, to break that wall down, you know, that people are talking about it.
Yeah, you got to test it.
So I am going to ask this question before we take off about, and I'm going to ask the audiences too, because of all this stuff.
And the fact that they are now starting to do a little bit more segments on CNN, NBC, or MSNBC, Fox, like all these different places are starting to cover it a little bit more.
I want to ask the audience as we start to see more people talking about it.
Is it going to, are we going to start getting more stuff?
Is it going to start to disappear?
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Okay.
Bringing it back to that question mark.
I'll start with you.
Do you think that and it's that James Fox quote that from a little while ago that we talked about,
he says that within the next year, more and more stuff is going to come out that they're just
not going to be able to big, big drops, big, you know, we have this potential hearing, second
hearing with other whistleblowers. There's other whistleblowers, apparently, that came forward
that never were able to be on the record the way that Grush was saying the same thing Grush is saying.
Is it going to happen or is it going to go away? I don't think it'll go away. I think there's
versions of happening that we can talk about. You know, another hearing will happen, I believe.
I think that if NASA gets their hands on the alien bodies, as opposed to alien bodies from Mexico,
that that happens, maybe we can see something come out of that.
Maybe they'll hide the information and that part of that conversation might make us go,
whatever happened to that.
Right.
I don't see this going away.
I don't see this going away.
And I think it's because there are more whistleblowers out there and that could go out and talk.
I think, you know, if we are to believe that hearing when you have AOC and other members of the Republican
party, you know, all working together to say, can we get in there? We'll get a skiff, whatever.
It's not going to go away. It can't, you know, this show's not going to go away anytime, right?
So we're going to keep talking about it. Well, that's what's crazy. Okay, that kind of lends me into my
position. You're saying, you're going to finish what you're saying. No, no. Yeah, I'm pretty much made my point.
Yeah. Well, but that kind of goes to what I was saying when you and I were talking about doing this
initially because we had just watched those that five-part series the UFOs discovering the unknown
and that's really where this stemmed from and initially we're like let's do it let's do it like once a
month and we'll talk about once a month because there'll probably be not that much to talk um and then
that was right when the hearing was coming on we didn't even know about the hearing when we started
doing this show initially like it was like i think i had done something with ellis and that kind of spawned
to me and you sure and then the hearing happened then i was like oh maybe it'll start it
And more stuff started coming out and more of the footage.
And I even said to you, maybe at one point we'll just kind of break down some of the cases that have happened in the past.
And we haven't even been able to do that that much because there has been so much information with this new site,
with NASA getting involved in it.
And there's just so much.
We had no idea that was happening.
No, when that happened, that was crazy.
And the thing is like, what?
But that still is a major, like major game changer.
if NASA does do an experiment, you know, the experiments on these things and other people take samples of
these things and it comes back. I mean, that's, that's the end. That's the, that's the game changer.
That's the, if it's announced that it is absolutely otherworldly, NASA says it. If NASA does indeed,
you know, come out and do the samples and they go, we have scientific proof that these are things
from not Earth. It's, it's done that then, then I would be the least. They didn't. Yeah.
When there and Tyson, this is the most important point.
Like the moon rocks distribute them to, you know, scientists all over the world, compare, contrast.
Yeah.
Discuss your data.
Same deal here.
I love that he's suggesting that because, yeah, because if that comes out that it's true, let's say what if it's true.
You can open up some more, the whistleblower grush saying maybe they release more information from what we have.
Alien bodies.
Yep.
Right.
What you found in Mexico, we have here.
Yeah.
That would be monumental.
That would be, I think if anything like that, I'd like to believe that the American people, at least, or the world in general would hear this information and everything else would go away because we would be talking about this.
I'd like to believe that.
Because I would.
Well, you think so, but don't put too much trust in people.
But the...
I know, because there'll be something put out there that says,
But, right.
I picture inside of the two guys that are in charge of this whole thing are at odds with each other.
And for some reason, they're both from Brooklyn.
And it's like, hey, Vinny, look, I got to be honest with you, man.
I think the, I think the, I think the, I think the gig is up.
I think it's, you know, you got this guy, grush, try to shut him up.
You won't shut up.
You got the guy showing the bodies in Mexico.
And every five minutes is new TikTok.
I think we just give up what we got.
Are you out of your mind?
Are you out of your mind?
We're not shutting down nothing.
We're not shutting down nothing.
These two guys are just going at it.
They're trying for so long.
And they're just screaming at each other like, like, just like, it's over.
What does Pauley say?
Paul, don't bring Polly.
Oh, you know, Paulie hasn't been the same since, you know, since that Tick-Tac thing came out.
You don't want to talk about it.
Told the, they're all made.
pasta and stuff, you know.
He offered the guy 14 pies for the rest of his life,
and that guy is still talking in front of Congress.
Oh, my God.
It's like.
Hopefully,
this guy's just arguing, like,
but this guy,
it's like,
but as much as I'm goofing about that,
it's like,
the,
whoever is in charge of those groups,
they're just,
I would love to be a fly in the wall.
And it's like,
what,
what are the conversation?
It's like,
Are they panicking? Are they not? Are they going?
It's, look, we've been through this a million times over.
Or do they think like, no, this is different.
Like as we're talking, as you were just talking about it, how it's like, no, there's more and more stuff.
As the reporter just said, it used to be more of a joke and people are taking more serious now.
Is this the thing that they never wanted to happen?
Is it starting to happen?
I like that. Maybe it is.
You know what I mean?
So it's like that that's why it's so curious of what people, those people behind the scenes.
Like I said, that's why I asked the question, will it go away?
Do they feel it's going to go away?
Do they feel like, yeah, look, it's the same thing that we've seen a million times over.
They're going to talk about it for a bit and then it'll just go away.
But because there's so many people now and not and not, I'm not patting us on the back,
but like people, when we're when we're continuing in the conversation and there's other channels
and other people on social media continuing in in the conversation.
That's why I said social media is so strong about this stuff now too,
because I think there's so many people who not necessarily believe
that there's aliens flying around,
but they want to ask questions as far as like,
well, give us an answer of what it really is then,
and then we're going to shut up.
And I think that those people,
it used to be like, oh, there's nothing in the sky.
That is quickly gone away.
That is quickly gone away.
That, it seems to, right?
It seems to be very, very a change in the wind because there's so much conversation around at least there was some water cooler talk about those videos that dropped.
Because a lot of people come and went, whoa.
Then the conversation goes down the line.
I'm like, weather balloon, probably.
I want to see.
You know what?
And I'm glad you brought that up again because what I would like to do once again is if I can find it, play that before our last video to show it.
the MSNBC
UFO video.
All right, Riley, this is the last thing
we'll talk about before we get out here. It's a little bit of a longer video,
but I think it's relevant enough and it goes back to what we were talking about
with the,
with those videos and also get a confirmation from Riley if this is the video he was talking about.
But here is, it was NBC that actually played this.
And here's the video itself and I'll play this and then we'll talk about it afterwards.
And moving on now to what has become the most confusing story in the news these days.
And here's why, because as compelling as this video I'm about to show you is,
we just do not have straight answers on what we're saying.
Of course, we're talking UFOs again, or unidentified anomalous phenomenon, as the government calls it.
And we just came across a very odd, very under the radar release of some videos and documents
that I've been trying to get for years.
Now, with no explanation, all of a sudden, customs and border patrols,
has released 10 videos from what looks like forward-looking infrared cameras from different incidents
and an odd 387 pages of reports, news clippings, and emails about people at CBP talking about
UAPs.
But there is a lot redacted, so it's hard to understand exactly what's going on and some of it has to do with agents saying they've seen stuff and being scared of the whole stigma that comes with talking about UAPs
But the videos the videos paint a more black and white picture and at least one of them this one immediately caught my eye because it's one
years ago that I filed a freedom of information request to get my hands on,
never heard back.
But among the UFO community, it is very well known.
It's called the Aguadia video.
And again, there's no context released from the CVP.
So I just want to show it to you so you can be left for the same questions I've been trying to get answered.
What we're seeing here is allegedly from Aguadilla, Puerto Rico.
Back in 2013, a CVP aircraft spots this thing that you're seeing right there in the middle of your screen,
flying over the airport tracks it for several minutes.
They're trying to figure out what it is.
They just don't know.
They don't have an exact size,
but they think it's smaller than a plane,
and they follow it as you see it there,
going over some trees, going over a road,
going over some fields.
It's heading towards the ocean.
Now we're going to fast forward just a bit towards the ocean
because that is when things get weird.
Here you see it dip down into the ocean,
doesn't seem to lose any speed,
then continues on,
then maybe it looks like, I don't know,
it splits into two or something,
or maybe something joins it before it.
They try to track it, disappears,
just gets lost in the water,
and then they lose sight of it.
And again, we haven't heard an official comment
on what this is from CBP.
There have been theories that this is everything
from a pelican to a UFO
that can somehow dip into the water
without losing velocity,
which is beyond anything we have.
So what it is, we don't know,
but it is weird,
and you'd think someone would tell us
what was going on since this happened
back in 2013.
And that's just one of 10 videos.
released. Some of them seem to show
things like floating objects
over the border. There could be anything from
hang gliders to balloons to drones, from
cartels maybe, but again, all of
this is coming after promises by lawmakers
by NASA, by the
Pentagon that they are taking this seriously and
could have answers soon. So fingers
crossed and I do want to bring in
one very special person. This is a person who has
led to this very odd thing in our nation's
UAP history. He's former
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence
Chris Mellon, who has been pushing the government to disclose more of what we know.
Chris, thank you so much for joining us.
I want to ask, straight up, this release from CBP, what do you make of these videos being made public now?
It's very interesting.
I don't know why it's coming at this time, but it's very significant for a couple of reasons.
This will help the public understand what our military personnel are encountering all over the world.
We're getting on the Defense Department side, 50 to 100 reports per month.
This is happening globally.
It's happening overseas.
It's happening off the East Coast and the West Coast.
And this will help people better understand why Congress takes the issue seriously,
why it's a national security issue.
Some of the challenges we're facing monitoring and controlling our airspace in the wake of the Chinese balloons.
And, of course, the explosion of drone use around the world.
So I think it's very helpful and kudos to Customs and Border Patrol.
So I've been watching these videos probably way too much today.
And some of them, the Aguadilla video still kind of baffles me.
And yet some of the videos that we've seen, they look like they could be a hang glider,
they look like they could be a balloon.
But all of this is being released without like any context here.
Do you think that that's one step forward or two steps back?
Or, as you said, is it still progress in your eyes?
in your eyes? It's absolutely progress in my eyes. I hope that the Defense Department
and Intelligence Community are paying attention. These videos were released. People are not
freaking out. They're not overreacting. It's helping to educate the public. They have many videos
that are of a similar unclassified nature or were until they out of the blue created this new
classification guide that made everything automatically classified. I have
I don't.
So there's more to that also, but it's a little longer.
But I mean, that's a good, brings up another point.
And then this will be the last point I want to hear.
And then we'll call it a day, right.
But like, is this also, because it's like just kind of like a quiet dump.
Yeah.
Right.
Do these quiet dumps start happening for exactly what Mellon just said?
Let's see how the public reacts to it.
Yeah.
Let's get more and more used to it.
Let's get them talking about it.
more and we're talking about it all the time and now it's becoming less of the and more people are
talking about it all the time all right drop the bomb let them know yeah is that possible
it's a good plan again are they freaking out or are there tons of people not even aware of this
because i would right i would look at the other side of that it's right not a lot of people are are aware of
this it was a quiet dump because it was a quiet dump even my father who i hung up
out with over the weekend.
And I get into this with him because he was so into it back in the day.
And then his skepticism took over.
He doesn't believe it anymore.
And I told him, he was all willing to do it.
But he's probably because he's an alien himself and can't figure out his iPhone.
He's not watching these videos.
I'm trying to get him and I should have brought the videos up.
But we were instead revealing the gender of my baby, you know, less important things out
there.
But that's my point, though, is if this quiet dump is happening, we need to get more people talking about it, which I think will happen because of social media, because of us, because of our show, other shows on YouTube, people on X or Twitter talking about this, that when you see that, I mean, that is some weird shit.
More people needs to see that so they don't freak out.
So they start to what you're saying, Christian.
okay, what is that?
Okay, drop the big one.
You know, that shared one that we all want.
And maybe that'll be it.
Maybe it won't.
Who knows?
But the conversation continues on this show, man.
That's, we're able to keep.
I mean, there was a lot to come out this week.
I always think, like, I don't know if there's going to be enough next week.
There's always more than we can handle.
We could have, we couldn't, we could probably go for another 45 minutes.
But there's so much.
And I want to know from you guys of all the stuff.
we talked about what stands out.
Did you even know about these 10 videos that they dropped?
Did you hear about it from this show or did you know about it already?
Go ahead and let me know exactly what you thought.
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