The Kristian Harloff Show - Warner Bros. CinemaCon Panel Breakdown And Review!

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

Welcome back to The Kristian Harloff Show—your daily destination for the biggest movie news, Hollywood updates, and everything coming out of CinemaCon 2026. Today's episode focuses on the Warner Bro...s. panel and all the major announcements that have fans talking: Full breakdown of the Warner Bros. CinemaCon presentation—what were the biggest reveals, surprises, and future plans for the studio? A new Game of Thrones: Aegon's Conquest movie is officially in development. How will this expand the world of Westeros and connect to the legacy of Game of Thrones? A new installment in the Longlegs universe is set at Paramount—can the franchise continue its momentum in the horror space? Adria Arjona joins Man of Tomorrow, adding more fuel to speculation about the future of the DC Universe and how characters like Superman and Wonder Woman will be handled moving forward. If you're into DC, Warner Bros., Game of Thrones, and the biggest breaking stories from CinemaCon, Kristian brings expert analysis, insider-style discussion, and passionate fan reactions. Make sure to like, comment, and subscribe for daily coverage of movie news, trailer reactions, and everything happening in the world of entertainment. #KristianHarloffShow #WarnerBros #CinemaCon #GameOfThrones #DCU #Superman #WonderWoman #MovieNews #Hollywood

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Starting point is 00:01:44 whether it's the Andy Circus, Gollum, a new Aragorn, some Dune stuff. Hell, man, Game of Thrones. There's a new movie coming out, and we'll tell you exactly what that is if you don't know already. We have a lot of stuff. Got Paramount. There's also the news about 8.000. Aja Arjona, I think she should have been cast.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I will make my claim again that if she was cast as Maxima or whatever that character is, yes, I know who you know what that is. I don't care. It is the wrong choice, especially what's going on with D.C. And, uh, and whenever she should be cast as Wonder Woman. And that's the bottom line because Kevin Smet said so. Uh, it's me. It's Kevin Smet.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's the gauntlet today. Some games we're going to play. That's some good stuff. cannot wait to see Murphy Brown make her return. And one of the thumbnails, I'm sure. So let's get into it, everybody. It's the Christian Arloff show here today on this Wednesday, me and Kevin Smets. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the show here today. Joining me on this Wednesday, as I can say now, as he does every Wednesday. It's the former three-time intergeekedem Shmodown champion of the war. Kevin Smetz is here. You say former. like I lost it. I'm just curious. There's no league. It's former. I'm the former commissioner. You're the former champion.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I'm the reigning, just so you know. But hey, who are you playing against? I'm going to play against you right now. Let's go. PLD, get some questions. Yeah. We'll be a lot to talk about. But, you know, I did want to ask you because, you know, I did notice that a lot of people have been,
Starting point is 00:03:30 you're talking about, you know, the stoma. Is that what it's called? My colostomy, yes. Yeah, yeah. So, and it's been, you know, it's been, it's been, it's been, helping people. Yes, it has. It has. It's been helping people. Oh, you wanted me to talk about that now. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, my somaversity channel has been, okay. You've been setting that up. I know you've been tacking Mike with that yesterday. You know, you did that when I first announced,
Starting point is 00:04:02 you know, first of all, just so you know, I go into a bag. So my farts don't smell. They just fill up my bag like a balloon. I hate you so much right now. Eat a dick. Oh, so good. And with that. Can I say something real quick? Yeah. Go ahead. Yes. Get your fingers off. Put both hands up like this.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I don't have anything. I want to be both hands in the air while I talk. Son of a bitch. Listen. Yeah. Good to see everybody in the chat today. Spread the word. If you have any cancer symptom, don't even do it while I'm talking about cancer symptoms.
Starting point is 00:04:41 If you have it, don't put your hands in the air. Between you. This is the kind of man that Christian is. I announced for the first time ever that I have a stoma. A lot of, of people have stigmas about it, a lot of people worry about it. They're like, what I'm going to do? And I'm on a show in studio. And it's like a big deal. I'm like, hey, I'm going to go public with this. I thought it would be ideal for your channel because this where I announced a cancer.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And I'm literally telling people that I have a stone. I need to explode. Okay. See? Now you have one of the people, one of the PLD, Luke, you're in trouble. All right. It's probably a long long. All right. And we had 600, we had, you don't know this. We had 700 current viewers. And now it's down to 100. Even better. All right. I don't understand. How do I loop this image? So it looks like we're looking at each other.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Am I looking at you? Now you're not. You were before you, before you mirrored it, you, if you take it up now. All right. How's that? Now look at me.
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Starting point is 00:05:55 I had a great birthday weekend again. My friends came down. Just wanted to say shout out to Brandon, Craig, Kaiser, Frank. They all made the trip down. True funny story, by the way, Christian, real quick, before you get into it. We go meet my other friends down in San Diego at a bar called Arrow Club, which is like one of those fun bars where they have like a whole, they have outdoor like food trucks and stuff, and then they have like two bars inside.
Starting point is 00:06:18 More like a dive-ish kind of thing. But they have a couple arcades too, pinball, and they had Mario Carts. So Brandon Hanna, of course, the idiot that he is thinks he could beat me at Mario Kart. So I go over with my wife, who happens to be a beautiful young lady. So she's sitting behind me on the Mario Kart thing. I'm playing against Brandon Hannah here. She's standing behind me like that mom that like has quarters for their son, like, oh, dear, have fun. And then of course, because she's a beautiful young woman, a guy comes up to approach her.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And like hits on her. So she's kind of like nudging me like, hey, like help out. And there's no graceful way to be playing Mario. cart and then like turn around and be like hey uh yeah easy i'm i'm in third place i got to catch up a branding so my wife like like some guys doing full car so this guy's doing full court so this guy's doing full court press on my wife like it's the NBA finals while you're sitting there yeah man i mean i'm not going to lose my wife my wife's faithful i trust her but like losing to brandon hannah would be worse but i'm sitting there like an idiot throwing fucking digital bananas at someone while some guys like
Starting point is 00:07:20 literally like hit on my wife so shout out to brand and i did beat him by the way i did And I didn't lose my wife. She's still my wife. Good. In your face, guy that hit on my wife with a weird cowboy hat. Andrew Guy, I was doing. All right. Which wouldn't surprise me.
Starting point is 00:07:37 So there's a lot going on right now with CinemaCon. We're going to get into it because we have a lot of games to play as well. So I want to get into it. You've been following the stories that were going on and the announcements and stuff? Yeah, a little bit. I've been a little, my wife's on actually on a business trip right now, probably with the guy that she met at the She's on a business trip. So I've had my daughter.
Starting point is 00:07:58 She's called in sick twice, two days back to back. So I've been a little busy with work and stuff. Okay. So no, but I'm ready to talk it. All right. Let's do it. So it is this story here, which happened yesterday. Tons of stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:13 D.C. had their thing. I think Paramount also, I think, maybe not. Maybe just D.C. Anyway, last night, Sony kicked off CinemaCon with the mind. This is two nights ago. Anyway, so, well, we have no confirmation, which, uh-oh, is this old?
Starting point is 00:08:31 This is not it. This is the wrong article. Because this is the stuff. I'm so confused. Let me say, because this is the wrong article. Trying to find a good article. Can Luke or somebody send me an article that's updated?
Starting point is 00:08:45 Because this is... You got the announcement of Batman v. Superman. I know. This is old. It's like, there was a whole update on everything that happened. I'm wondering about this. This is previewing.
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Starting point is 00:09:19 So let's see. We received your choices. I don't give a shit. Every confirmed Warner Brothers announcement, here it is thank you to luke working pretty fast um and this is dc's supergirl to timothy chalmay's june part three all the movies that were featured in winter brothers presentation at cinema con why is denarius there i know i know it's the hunt is i mean maybe just to they're doing that well i think they're just being showing game of thrones because there's a
Starting point is 00:09:47 game of throne spinoff movie uh wonder brother studio presentation at cinema con twenty 26 featured updates and announcements on some of the most anticipated releases over the next couple of years from dc supergirl to the upcoming game of thrones movie the executives at caesar's palace in las vegas were treated to new stills footage release dates and other details wb slate is packed for twenty twenty seven and beyond even with the paramount slate in the near future the movies the new movies are exciting with the studio bringing back many fan favorite characters for the sequels here's every movie announcement made at cinema con during the warner brothers presentation number one was supergirl Okay, Supergirls, Supergirl has already locked a release date on June 26th, 2026 director Greg Gillespie appeared at the Vegas stage alongside Millie Alcock and Jason MoMA, who wore the Lobo costume to introduce new footage
Starting point is 00:10:35 and talk about the highly anticipated movie. The exclusive footage at the event showed Kara on an alien planet where she is seeing boarding a public transportation ship, wearing a pair of goggles, she's unhappy to be surrounded by smoking aliens. Amidst the chaos, she notices Eve Ridley's Ruthie, who seems to be in trouble with an alien. at this time. Tech Pirates poured the ship and Rob Caras Orb, and Ruthie's sword, yada, yada, yada. There's a clip that cuts to a montage, including a scene where Kara is escaping Krypton with Crypto.
Starting point is 00:11:02 The audience also got to see appearances from Lobo, who is seen fighting with Kara and David Cornfield Superman, whom Kara describes as a frickin nerd. The clip shows that Alcock is phenomenal in the role, and the movie is impressive with its action sequences. It stands out as an ambitious project within James Gunn's DCU, and the footage hints at potentially massive payoff. Gillespie shared that the characters in the movie will visit six different planets with Alcock learning five different alien languages. She also confirmed that crypto was entirely CGI in the movie. The material of the movie is largely adapted from Tom King's Woman of Tomorrow with many of the footage scenes take directly from the comics. Two, Clayface.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Peter Saffron was on the stage and introduced new footage from Clayface. I would like to have seen this. This is the one that I wanted to see. A riveting horror thriller, according to Saffron, the movie explores the origin of the Batman villain. the footage shows a man covered in face bandages on a hospital bed. It's implied that this man, Matt Hagan, had a horrible accident before the footage cuts to some experiments being conducted on the man. Almost reminds me of, of Darkman. Remember the movie Darkman?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Yeah, love it. As the camera zooms into Matt's face, the footage cuts to flashes of his life in Gotham. We also learn about the movie's tagline, look fear in the face. In the final portion of the footage, Matt lies in a bathtub and wipes his face. His face turns into clay, removing his features. Footage and cuts to the Clayface Title Card. It was announced that the movie will be a Halloween release coming to theaters on October 23rd, 26. It's very smart.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Footage gave us no clue about the film's plot, but indicated that the tone will be very different from your usual DC superhero movies. The involvement of Speak No Evil Director James Watkins at the helm means this will be a horror story rather than a super villain origin story. Again, very smart. Three, Superman Manna Tomorrow, which they did focus on. Peter Safran also shared an update on the sequel titled Man of Tomorrow. It's set to be released on July 9. of 2027. Saffron revealed that the filming will kick off next week. David Corence sweat, Nicholas Holt will return as Superman and Lex. They appear alongside Gunn during a sizzle reel
Starting point is 00:12:58 later where they show there will be a new villain and an unlikely alliance in the sequel. According to the recent report from THR, Adria Arhanna is playing a role in the movie. Four, Lord of the Rings, the hunt for Gollum. At CinemaCon, the audience got to see a quick look at Gollum in the new Lord of the Rings movie titled The Hunt for Gollum. Early, it was confirmed that Andy Circus will return as Gollum slash Smigel and Ian McAllen as Gandalf. However, the most surprising update was that Jamie Dornan was announced as Strider. He's playing Aragorn in the movie, replacing Bego Morton Sin from the original trilogy, Elijah Woodward returning, and the film has added Kate Winslet,
Starting point is 00:13:34 Leo Woodall, and Lee Pace. That's pretty great. There's an announcement video there. Mortal Kombat 2. Mortal Kombat 2 is the sequel to the 2020 reboot, set to be released on May 8th. New film will feature Carl Urban as Johnny Cage. They showed a clip. Let's say, many of the fans of the game and the movie's franchise were skeptical about Urban playing the role Cage. However, the actor has delivered a strong performance in all the promotional material that we've seen so far.
Starting point is 00:14:00 He's not only captures a charisma and the cool catchphrases like at Showtime, but replicates his fighting style and kicks straight from the game. Practical Magic 2. Suzanne Beard's Practical Magic sequel also introduced footage at CinverCon and Nicole Kidman at Sandra Bullock as their characters in the movie. The sisters are reintroduced with the footage giving us a look at their current home life. We see Kidman and Bullock's characters training the family's next generation of witches. The new sequel promises to maintain the whimsical tone and magic from the first movie while opening up space from these new characters.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I've never seen the original. It appears that the film will remain faithful to Alice Hoffman's novel. It will be released on September 11, 2006. A cat in the hat. Do you another cat in the hat, huh? Are you after this going to do a reading of the Lord of the Rings novel? Or what? What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:14:43 How long is this going? Do you not want to hear about the fucking? I do. I have a Mike Kalinowski. Don't need it. I need Kevin Smets. I'm here for you, you were just talking shit on how long I introed the guy.
Starting point is 00:14:57 These are my thoughts. Those were your thoughts. This is an article to see if everything was going on. If I was doing you reading this, we would be here until 2075. All right. Well, it's a good year. Here's Kevin Smets reading Bill Hater.
Starting point is 00:15:13 inspired by a Dr. Seuss book. Oh, Dr. Seuss, you know, there were kinds of Jordan Shmodeon. I thought I had to do Dr. Seuss. There's a hat, and there's a hat. He's got like stripes on it. They're a hat. Sometimes they rhyme and they do some things. And sometimes you have birds and worms and sham and ham.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Keep eating your honor. Inspired by the Dr. Seuss book, this movie from Warner Brothers animation is about siblings, Gabby and Sebastian, who are forced to move into the city. A clip at CinemaCon revealed some stuff. and that's it. It's going to come out November 6th this year. End of Oak Street. This is one, Anne Hathaway, Ian McGregor, E. E.N. McGregor's, the End of Oak Street featured a teaser.
Starting point is 00:15:54 This is introduced by actor Patton Oswald. This shows how much stuff they showed here. The teaser presents the movie as a survival thriller, as Hathaway and McGregor's character try to protect their children from the dangers of this new time. The Great Beyond, this is J.J. Abbas movie after taking on Star Wars. J.J. Abrams is moving on to a mysterious movie, starring Glenn Powell and General Ortega.
Starting point is 00:16:14 He introduced the movie during the Warner Brothers presentation. The teaser suggests a sci-fi premise, kicking off with the H.G. Wells quote. He's usually good at introducing stuff, too. Teaser didn't reveal much about the movie's plot. It's J.J. Abramson or shit. Tiamo is another one that they, this is I saw that the analysis is like a under the, the independent brand that they're doing. It's like a new brand that they're releasing.
Starting point is 00:16:36 The Warner Brothers label. So Evil Dead Burns is a new Evil Dead movie. sixth installment of the franchise that was announced um shoot dune part three announced at cinema commerce dramatic as denie and the cast were brought to the stage with chants from the artists in the suits the executives got to see the first seven minutes from the third movie that's pretty cool i heard it was like saving private ryan level epic oh i can't wait the footage saw i don't want to know i don't know i don't know the sorry i didn't even that was no no that's okay 13 digger this is is one I heard a lot about. I mean, and this was on my
Starting point is 00:17:11 most anticipated. So Tom Cruise and Inoratsu's appearance at Cinema Contra Pronged Digger, which also marks the actor's first collaboration with Warner Brothers in years. The footage at the event introduces Cruz's characters of balding, foul-mouthed rich man who was seen holding a cat in his mansion. And the character apparently is nothing like we've seen Cruz do so far. The clip shows him in boardrooms on jet planes. This is an Oscar potential, huh? Yeah. 14. This is a 85 year old man in it or something.
Starting point is 00:17:36 So, yeah, 14. Game of Thrones. Agon's conquest. I'm so excited that this is what the movie is. I'm so excited. I've been hoping that they were going to do this story and they're finally doing this story. Working title for the upcoming Game of Thrones movie will officially be announced. Game of Thrones is Agon's Conquest. It'll follow the Agon the first Targaryen story from the George R. Martins, the song of ice and fire novels. It was announced among WB's 2027 and beyond slate during the presentation. Jack, that's all we get on that? That blows. There's a Minecraft movie two. Remain is new shamalan movie ocean's prequel margie margie claus shiver other movies in 2027 and beyond bad fairies from cynthia rievo panicked carefully the flood from zach cragher what's that on the bottom which one gremlins i guess um this is crazy this okay so i'll tell you what there's a reason why this was as long as it was all jokes aside right because this is it's at the end What?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Scantron test. I'm ready for it. No, no, no, because it's like this is a, you look at this overall, this panel, this is a brand that just sold to another place and they're showing, look at all the great stuff we got coming up. I mean, they have so much stuff. Did they mention anything about the merger? They didn't, huh?
Starting point is 00:18:59 No, they're not going to do that there. You didn't want to scare people about, especially with everything that's going on with it. But out of all, I mean, there's tons of stuff there. Tons of stuff. The first one I'm assuming to you that you're like, oh, let's see it tomorrow is D. D. D.N. Right. Well, the one thing I was noticing is what was missing. Old Redlich, where was Batman? No, no Batman news. Oh, no, the Batman. You're right. I thought you were talking about the DC Batman. Why would they bring that? But yeah, the Batman too, right? They didn't even mention it. That's true.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Like, it's Sebastian stand up there. I mean, I think they said he's for sure two-faced, but I don't know. Yeah, it's interesting that they didn't. Yeah, that's a good point. They didn't bring. No mention Batman the Batman 2 and then no mention of like the I guess the merger right you're right so that was the first thing but yeah the uh well Lord of the Rings I was excited about the hunt for Gallum and I actually sent there it should be in the system I'm just looking at the picture right the picture yeah so I used AI because I don't necessarily think a so I was like you know this is what they could have done with the solo a Star Wars story right you get someone who looks like it that is that is AI I just put Jamie don't don't Jonan or whatever his name is. Jamie Dornan. I said put him as Aragon in Aragorn as in Lord of the Rings. And there's two photos there. And like one of them I thought like, oh, it just took a shot of Vigo.
Starting point is 00:20:20 But no. That one's good. Looks just like him. Right. So that he's going to fit right in there and he'll probably look will. But I mean, you can you can look like somebody, but you got to be able also get the cadence of it. You know, that's what we hope that he does, right? Because that was a lot of problem with, as you mentioned, with all it.
Starting point is 00:20:37 It's like the cadence of that character is, oh, he's turning into him. If I go back and I look at a eight-year-old Kevin Smetz, the cadence of who he is today is still there. Yeah, he's a different person. He changed and, you know, he learned life experience and stuff. But the cadence of who he is is still there. Yeah. And that cadence was never there. But the cadence has to be there.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Yeah. So that's what I'm hoping for. So I'm excited for that. Yeah, I whip that together because I was like, okay, so he has the look at least. But I would argue that, like, Alden didn't even really have the look compared to, like, someone like Antony and Gruber and stuff like that. But so that has me excited. The Dune, you know, just hearing that people were talking about it.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Also, like I was following along with our, our cohort, Roka, who at early was kind of disappointed or just was like, oh, man, like, maybe I'll get an early flight. Like, if it's as a stinker as the Sony one was, apparently Sony wasn't, these studios weren't showing. That's what it's going to say. There wasn't a lot to Sony as opposed to how much they gave you at Warner Bros. Warner Bros. Give you a lot. Yeah, give you a lot. And also just ending on that Dune footage and everybody was blown away. Even like Jeff Snyder said that he thinks that Nolan might be in trouble with his Oscar now. And that's just from watching seven minutes. So that that's pretty exciting. And then he said what he said that what is because of Dune? He did a tweet. Yeah. After he saw the footage, he was like, wow, that was powerful stuff. He's like, Nolan might be in trouble because, you know, everybody assumes that Nolan will win because of the Odyssey. And now he was, you know, a little worried about. that. So, saying, not worried, but saying like Nolan might not have competition. Yeah, he's going to have some competition now. Which I love. I mean, look, do you know how happy would make me that if the two front runners are best picture
Starting point is 00:22:18 are going to be Dune and the Odyssey? Hell yeah. I mean, are you kidding me? That would be, that would be a dream for me. Like, as opposed to some, you know, obscure freaking movie that six people are going to see. That's probably pretty good. Yeah. I mean, a lot of the movies that were nominated and what, what, I didn't remember what one, last year. What the hell won last year? Dude. Oh, it was, it was, it was, it was, um, shit. It was, it was, oh, it was just a move, my favorite movie.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, it was one battle after another, one battle after another, which. Oh, yeah, that was good. Actually, I really liked one by the last year. Yeah, that was the one I thought, I thought she went. And sinners was, was also up for it too. So there were, there were quite a few that were, there were kind of mainstream that. I used to get all the screeners, uh, from my friend who was in the producers guild when I was, when we used to edit in Bayes and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And there was a couple, years where I'm like, dude, what is this movie? And then it ended up like winning. And I always was like, maybe I'm just don't have that like cinema file like brain. But I like things. I'm a basic bitch. I like things a little more. Yeah, but I just think that that was a big panel for them overall because there's a lot of excitement or what they're doing. And then as I said, that whole thing with the Tom Cruise movie, I was looking forward to that in the first place, Digger. And because him and in Iraq are working together and now hearing that it's kind of getting the buzz that is, the Ann Hathaway movie, the new title from Zach Craigor, the Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:23:38 The Game of Thrones thing is the one that really stood out to me because I know there have been rumors about it and thinking that was what it's going to be, but you can't do another series about the Targaryans, right? You just can't. He just did The House of the Dragon. You can't do another series about him. But everybody and every damn thing,
Starting point is 00:23:53 it's always mentioned about Agon the Conqueror. It's always his first, it's like the story about how he conquered the Seven Kingdoms. And it's like, how do you not do that in one way or another? I know that they're doing, The other one was Robert's Rebellion, which they're doing as a play, though. Yeah, I mean, I saw someone say Henry Cabell for Agon. I'm like, no, Henry Cabell would have been a badass young Robert Barathean.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Like, you know what I mean? Like, he was kind of like, he could get, he would be ripped for it. And, you know, obviously he's bigger in his older age. But like he was like a badass when he was younger. He was. You know, him and Ned just killing every, like kicking ass. I know. He'll think Cabell, who would you do?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Not for, not for Robert. I think, I just, I think. he's too good looking for uh for robert robert was a little more gruff um more gruffy yeah um but i would be good though with his hair i mean he's already you know that will be a good agon to the conquer he he you do that that hair with him for sure um but but we'll see we'll see if that's the case i know he's like the dream casting for people and i think that and warner brothers probably wants to give him a makeup you know yeah sorry for that black adam disaster for you they treated him terribly and how they handled that. It was really, it was like one of the most genuine dudes.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah, what that was, and he handled it with class. He handled the whole thing with class. But I'm sure, you know, behind the scenes, he was probably just like, those guys can suck it. But that's, but that's a good one for them. That's a good one for, for, uh, for him to do, if they do it. We don't know, but the Lord of the Rings one, I don't know, did they show any, didn't show any footage from it. They just showed casting announcements. I think it showed something for Gondon's all. Kate Winslet's going to be in it. That's great. She's perfect for Lord of the Rings. you kidding me yeah perfect floor of the rings um and then obviously with uh i keep forgetting his jamy don't doran he's from uh yeah he's from the yeah he's from the the shades yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:25:43 a bunch of others he wasn't he wasn't he in that serial killer show that everyone loved to the what you yeah yeah wasn't that him or is somebody else uh somebody else yeah he was in he was he was in a he was in a dream during has been in a bunch of shit that he's he i know he's not he's not he's not not as dramatic of a crowd turn that Robert Pattinson had because remember Robert Pattinson had to go through getting out of that it's the twilight guy thing right I remember after seeing I saw like two movies and I said oh that he this is a real actor this guy is awesome it was a rover and or something else and I and we Winston and I famously had the conversation on Clyde live he said you can't put the twilight guy in there as
Starting point is 00:26:24 Batman I said dude really yeah I said you need to go in and watch this movie and then he's he's since changed his tune on it but Jamie Jordan has had a similar road to that. He's been in stuff since that movie. And I'm sure the audience knows, too. He's been in a ton of stuff, shows and other things, that he has changed the public perception of not just being that guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:47 In that movie. Okay, let's see. There's other things that we're going to talk about for sure. But the Supergirl thing was shown. And I hate doing this. Everyone's like, oh, Christian just wants to hate this movie. I really don't. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Amelia Alcock, again, speaking of Game of Thrones, was so good. I'm a big Greg Glasby fan. I hear so many great things about this thing. I just had no excitement for this film at all. Clayface out of the two of them is the one that I'm like, okay, that's the movie to me that seems exciting. This seems like every other superhero movie that I've ever seen. And I hope I'm wrong when it comes to the story itself. Someone said they saw the footage, right?
Starting point is 00:27:25 There was like a whole scene. Yeah, and I said that. Someone I forget who I was listening to something this morning where they were like, you could literally if you took Supergirl out of there and put Star Lord in there, it would fit like it would feel exactly the same to the point where it was
Starting point is 00:27:40 very much shades of Guardians of the Galaxy. So I mean, yeah, it's just that's, but that's the thing is I'm just like, you know, and that's I think that this is what people don't understand. You cannot be excited about a movie, right? And you can, there's two, there's two sides of this. The first side of it is
Starting point is 00:27:58 you cannot be excited about a movie and it doesn't mean that you hate women and it doesn't mean that you just hate James Gunn. Yeah. Because my my flip side to that is I'm very much excited to see Adri Arona's Wonder Woman. You still think that there should be because we'll get into that because if she's not, if she plays that other characters, it's such a stupid ego thing by by Gunn that I think is the dumbest thing ever. Right now they need they need powerhouses. They need Wonder Woman. They need Batman. They need it. He needs this.
Starting point is 00:28:30 for the security, for him to have the power over the new regime that's running paramount, he needs to do that. If it's him, he should be building up these characters. They're like, we can't get rid of this guy. And the fans like, what are you doing? He's putting it together a great Wonder Woman, a Batman, everything too. Oh, I'm introduced Maxima. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:28:49 Would that be like a Maxima movie or maybe that's just a character? She's going to be like a character and the thing, but like, why waste her on that character? It's like, you don't know who she is. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. building up new characters right now. They're not in Marvel phase three
Starting point is 00:29:03 where they have the opportunity to do that. They're building their thing out. They're building a strong. Put together your power three right now. And hopefully that's what it is. But the other flip side of that too is you can also respectively say, I'm not excited about this movie and not start hating on the on the actress
Starting point is 00:29:22 and the way she looks and all this. It's just stupid. Yeah. It's like just say, it's just not a movie that I'm interested in. However, you can also, it's okay to say, and I challenge people who, where have you ever seen? And have you ever seen people who are hating on something from the start? And then they go, you know what? I got to be honest, guys.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I actually liked the movie. You never see it. You never see it. With me with Mall Shadow Lord. I was hating on that whole time and then I saw it. Dude, I wanted nothing to do with that. It's possible. I wanted nothing to do with that show.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And now I'm like, okay. but I am I am curious I still think there's a way I think it is okay for people to say I'm not pumped about this movie oh you're a gun hater you just you just don't like the fact that a woman's in Supergirl
Starting point is 00:30:10 it's Supergirl of course it's gonna be a woman in I want to walk out of that theater saying it's a pretty good movie now good story in defense of if it if she was Maximum maybe they have a bigger play in store for Wonder Woman and Maximum might be a sick character like to be honest like I grew like reading comics but I was never reading the Iron Man comics right when Iron Man movie came out
Starting point is 00:30:32 I'm sure a lot of people didn't even know Iron Man existed right like I knew he was because I would read the Avengers stuff but like it could be argued that everybody when they were launching the MCU that like why aren't you doing Spider-Man first why aren't you doing like the main people so they did take a chance on Iron Man maybe Miss Maxima if they introduced her as a smaller character and she's gonna be awesome and then they have an even better casting in as Wonder Woman but very very different more Iron Man was the lead. It was a known character and they were like, we'll take a shot and we have John Fabro,
Starting point is 00:31:01 who director, and it was, if this works, we can build something off of it. They've already built off of Superman, plus the fact, Marvel wasn't in the, you're in this range. I guess they work because they were Paramount, but still, they're in this range right now. They have new leadership and new bosses and everything too. And it's like, if I'm James Gunn,
Starting point is 00:31:20 I'm throwing all of my aces to, unless maybe you don't care about your job security, But like his job security would be like, he's like, you know what? If I put together these big three and this, this plan in general, and I'm going to knock this out. And then I'll introduce characters like Maxima and all these other things later. And it could be a ruse. It very well could be a ruse.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And it could, you know, and maybe she is going to be Wonder Woman in the way that they were going to do the Star Trek thing with, with Ben and a Cumberbatch, it's not con type thing, you know. That would be the smart play. Having a maximum one role and again, she comes back as Maximum again. It's like, who cares? Yeah, I mean, I think in this day and age of like leaks too, like that whole movie was leaked. It was just your heart breaks for all those filmmakers and like animators and stuff. Like maybe they're just really keeping things close to the chest.
Starting point is 00:32:06 But again, devil's advocate only because, you know, I do like discovering new characters. Maybe this maxima, like it makes me want to like look, look her up and see what that is. I know, maybe it's a marketing, good main marketing. But you know, you know, after reading all this, you know who I think made the biggest mistake out of everybody in this thing? me being on this show because you're so mean to me. But other than that, yeah. No, JJ Abrams. Really?
Starting point is 00:32:28 James is still living in 2011. I'm not going to show you anything. It's a mystery. Dude, there's 87 other projects. No one cares about your mystery. No one cares about your mystery. Oh, it's mystery. I'm not going to show you anything. No one cares, JJ.
Starting point is 00:32:41 We ain't doing lost. We ain't doing all this stuff. No one cares. Yeah. Show me. Not a very much thing, right? I mean, I thought about that. We totally forgot that he even had a presentation because everybody's about other things. I'm not going to show you it's a mystery. No,
Starting point is 00:32:54 tease us. Let us know. Why am I getting excited about your project? You know who can do that? Tarantino could do that right now. Sure. He's got the name. Yeah, Nolan, even Nolan, but Nolan doesn't even do that either. Nolan goes, it's going to be the Odyssey. And it's going to be, it's going to be based off this. You'll see a trailer when you see a trailer. Because like no pressure now, but JJ, what's it going to be? Like, what can it possibly be that like everybody would be blown away with? It's a mystery. No, I figured it out. I don't care. It's Ray Skywalker movie.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yeah, but it's like it's, it back then it worked fine. It worked good. But it's like you can't do that. No one, no, everyone forgets. No one cares. But you know what I say in the Zach, I always mess up? Is it Craigor or Craigers? I always mess up his name.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Who? I'll say Craigor. He's got another horror movie which I'm, and he gets me excited about horror movies. I'll tell you, I saw the mummy, Lee Cronin's the mummy last night. I can't, I can't give like a full review and I'm just got my thoughts because the, the embargo drops tomorrow. Is it under Universal? Is it like... No, that's the Warner Brothers movie.
Starting point is 00:33:55 It's a very well-made horror movie. I, it's just not for me. Because, like, it's the intense gore and, like, over-gore-type thing. Like, I literally a couple of times when like this. All right, I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. Really? I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It's like, if you love gore, you're going to love the movie. I just, I like more of the detail of what's going on. And it didn't really seem like a mummy movie to me. It seemed more like a, you know, like a possession. exorcist kind of demon movie that I've seen a thousand times, but... What's it rated? A Hardar. Hardar. And it's, oh, dude, this was the best.
Starting point is 00:34:31 This was the best comment. I'm so glad that I just remember this. Oh, what an imbecile this guy was. I saw this yesterday as I did my out of the theater action. What happened? No, it wasn't what happened. It was this guy goes, he goes, you know, this is why you left Collider. Because you don't, you don't remember, you don't remember that this isn't
Starting point is 00:34:51 based off of the Brendan Fraser, the mummy? Yeah, right. You've talked about this in past news stories. Do you know how many news news stories I've talked about that I don't remember that we talked about last week? Yeah. I forget these news stories we just covered like five minutes ago. I didn't watch one trailer for this thing.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I didn't know. I said, was it Brandon Frazier? I have no freaking idea what they're doing with it. And it's universal. How do you not do that? Clearly, you have no clue who I am, Biscuits, whatever your name is. And I was like, yeah, whatever. It was it was such a hilarious comment.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Like to the fact, who, who's, who cares that much? Who cares? It was so long and it was so great because I love when the big, long comments come in that just go straight to spam. And I read like a quarter of and then I delete them. I smile and laugh every time because like you spent so much time and no one's ever going to see it. It's so great.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And you know they stop when they're done writing it and then they stop and like read it from the top. Yeah. And then they post it. And it never sees the light of day. It's my favorite thing in the world. world I laughed so hard I'm like you spent so much time and no one even so I barely read any of it I read some of it is so I love I love it's one of my favorite things in the world in the same way that
Starting point is 00:36:00 yesterday someone said don't play the fart sounds I think he was telling me to do it so I did play the fart sounds um but he's also also unsubscribe and I think he was doing it I saw that part where I think he was doing he was I would like you to video yourself on something part of the bit I think he was part of the bit which I like um anyway so so much going on at the winter brother's panel oh tell me why you're excited for clay face real quick oh okay yeah um clay face to me is a now so that's that's the thing if anybody ever says oh these guys just creates everything dc no way i'm look i'm looking for it i want to see if they can change up manna tomorrow a little bit do what they're really doing but to me the idea of taking this 20 30 million
Starting point is 00:36:43 dollar movie inside of the DC universe making it a horror movie really fixed switching up the genre I think does more than even what Marvel did when they were doing like a spy thriller with um you know uh winter soldier or a crime heist movie with Antman there they were different feels and tones to it but essentially it was always the big budget blockbuster superhero movie this is not that this is a this is a horror film that just happens to introduce one of Batman's villains and it's a smart way to do it. It's coming out Halloween. It's part of that brand. This is a great strategy that I loved about DC what they did in the first place. And I hope they continue to do that and do more movies like like that. Like to put things like that overall. I want to
Starting point is 00:37:26 see more intricate because when you lower your budget, what people don't understand is that it forces you to rely and believe in your story and your characters. When you have a big, huge budget you can say oh i don't really know enough about the you know what just let's spend 15 minutes just blowing things up and that's oh that's really cool look good at iMacs and you you have the money to do it and you spoil yourself and you kind of you spoil the audience a little bit too but when you force filmmakers to really go and spend that money smart yeah they it goes towards the characters and i went to film school like uh yeah i did a movie uh it was in the it's called the syndicate. It was basically Avatar before Avatar, like 10 years before Avatar,
Starting point is 00:38:12 or five years before Avatar, but we shot it in the desert and we like got like a trampoline and hit it underbrush. So then like, you could just jump off the trampoline and look like you're getting shot off Friday explosion and stuff like that. You get creative because you don't have the money, you know? We took Nerf guns, spray painted them blue or sorry, spray painted them black and then just like with blue and made them look like laser guns. Yeah. I mean, look at, look at Terminator 1. Yeah. What they had to do with Terminator 1. I always I always use that. No,
Starting point is 00:38:41 someone asked if clay face is, it takes place in Patton's universe. No, no, it takes place in the DCU. Oh, it does. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:46 that's my next question. It's in the DCU. That's what I'm saying. That's why I like what they're doing to show like these different tones. The fact that this clay face exists in the same Superman world, it's interesting. Yeah. They'll never meet up, I don't think,
Starting point is 00:39:02 or maybe they will. I don't know. But to see, like, and if they did, can they, could they exist in clay faces? way filmed. I'm sure there if it's a huge hit. No, I know, but I'm saying that after credit scenes of
Starting point is 00:39:16 Brave and the Bold, you know what I mean? Yeah, well, that, but that's my point. My point is that, you know, when like, would you ever really see Superman in a $30 million movie? No, you'd see him in, you'd see him in the $70 million movie. But imagine if you saw Superman in the $20 million movie. Yeah. That would be freaking interesting, not fighting. Maybe he has a conversation or something like that, I'm recording on some something and yeah yeah yeah let's see that the cross genre like said like with marvel how they had a heist movie and then they had like the the thriller and stuff like that like it should not be afraid and to try those things you know but you can do that like you said you can take those swings with a smaller budget yeah that's what i'm excited about so we i guess we
Starting point is 00:39:59 really we already touched on the um a jr horanah thing right so we don't we don't need to talk about that we did the game of thrones we did the conquest um I mean, so we really kind of covered everything. So we might as well get into the games, right? Yeah, I mean, I didn't know if you wanted to, we were talking about maybe someone had said that they were asking about us if you wanted to weigh in on maybe predicting some of the bigger matches. Who you think would win on. I mean, I have the list here. I can just run down the card for you and you can.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah. Did you watch Raw? No, I didn't get a chance to see it. I know you told me I got to watch the. There was this brilliant promo. So they, between punk and rain. where they were just at each other's throats first early on punk you know evokes sica's name which is roman's father and says you're going to bury i'm going to bury you next to your father and then they had it
Starting point is 00:40:47 very violent and they did full circle to where this last promo was two men realizing that they envied the other so punk goes on to this long um saliloquy basically saying like i envied you because i didn't come from a wrestling family i had to itch and claw and scrape my way i was conquering the indies then i conquered Japan and then I was here I faced all of this thing I had to grind and fight for every opportunity whereas you Roman you were given every opportunity you were and then Roman goes back and then Roman says well I in a way he says he envied him because he has the crowd adoration he has he's been faced with years of crowd rejection moving him out of the building when he was like it's my yard now and all that stuff like yeah and so they had it came to this mutual respect of why each one
Starting point is 00:41:35 envied the other and how now it wasn't violent it was just and they're coming to it's going to come to a head which i just thought was a goosebumps there the rock i just thought that was a way cool thing like because there was just in this buildup it's been too many braws talk talk brawl brawl brawl there this was a creative way to like wrap it up full circle like these are two men that live that went different paths that are going to collide now and it's like one that never had the odd crowd out or crowd out iteration you know adoration like rame roman saying like hope one day when i leave that they'll chant my name for the 10 years in the arena. So that was really cool.
Starting point is 00:42:09 So, like, who do you think it's going to win? I'll just give you the main events. Yeah, yeah. Oba versus, so I know you're going to watch it on ESPN for free. Yeah. On Sunday, Obafemi versus Brock, who you got? I'm going to pick Oba and they, and if Brock wins, then they have no idea what they're doing over there.
Starting point is 00:42:26 They have a new Goldberg right now. And what I mean by that is someone, and he's not, he's, I think he's more talented in the ring than Goldberg. than Goldberg was, but he's got that aura and he's got the crowd right now and he's if you give him a loss to a guy that's been there forever that doesn't need to
Starting point is 00:42:45 get over at all. I don't think it should be a squash match. I think he's a good match and good fight and you want to get people excited, but this guy should be your star and he should be the one that people are, in K-Fabe, other wrestlers looking at oh my God, that's a guy that beat Brock pretty, you know, pretty soundly at rest ofania and
Starting point is 00:43:02 it gives him an opportunity to push him to the moon. You know, it's still a little doubt. So you go in watching it and get nervous about it. The, the, the WWE has been always famous for, you know, well, it's early. He has his whole years ahead of him. And there were reports that early on they were going to get, they were going to feed him LA night, Brock, L.A. Knight. Brock and Heyman were like, I shouldn't lose until my retirement match. And the rumors are his retirement match is going to be in Minneapolis, where his hometown is. And that would be SummerSlam against Gunder. They might be arguing, no, I should keep winning. And then Goonther's the one to topple it.
Starting point is 00:43:35 But I think they might, as they always do, pivot when they see. I mean, he had a promo. That was the other part I wanted you to walk. Oba could not get through his words without the crowd chanting like, Oh, but, who, who. It was just incredible. Yeah, I'm thinking. He's got the crown.
Starting point is 00:43:50 So that would be, that would be the difference in booking. Like, if Triple H's got to look at that or whoever, and is they going to say, like, you can't, you can't do that to this guy right? It would be stupid. And the way you, and it's easier to spin. what you're talking about, like if like, so Oba beats Brock and that's what
Starting point is 00:44:10 again, in KFabe decides that Brock's going to hang it up now. I got one more match. Or maybe I got it something too. I can't believe that I lost. I thought I was going to go in there and win and you see the self-doubt and you get the crowd, you know, backing him. Yeah, because there's the heel. Yeah. I'm going to put it all
Starting point is 00:44:26 in the line and Heyman's like, don't. You see what he did to everyone else? And Brock's like, no, I got, I'm questioning myself. I need to, I need to prove to myself that I can do. overcome this legend killer or this career killer it's a great yeah so all right so what else i'll just get the main ones and cody roads versus randy orton which you dude how do you have this main event with 20 years of built history between the roads roads family orton's family roads and orton were team like team back in the day the legacy and and then you start instilling
Starting point is 00:45:00 all this pat maccophie and now jelly roll this is a tkio thing Yeah, and it's such a massive what they're doing also though, too. It's so clear. Now, like Cody Rhodes is on podcast blasting the decision to put him in there and everybody's. And what I mean is, oh, it's total K-fabre. I mean, it's real, but now they're going to lean into it and do like a TKO versus. One, it's part of the storyline now. It's part of the storyline now.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Like, we want these wrestlers to go out, you know, and Triple H where it was like, go ahead and talk about it. And TKS probably, yeah, go ahead and talk about it. That's fine and build it up. And it, it's, it's not, it's, it's fabricated at this point, too. I think like, you know, they're probably generally pissed off about it. But it's like they weren't going to speak out about it. And Cody Rhodes has been, has been shown. He's a good company guy.
Starting point is 00:45:45 He's not going to talk about it. And now he's on, you know, podcast, because he got the okay to talk about it. So, uh, I, you know, you got. Um, probably what, what's Cody now? Cody is already a, uh, is it three time champion? Yeah. And yeah. So he, he lost.
Starting point is 00:46:02 He won it. He won it against Roman, then he lost it to Sina, then he won it back from Sina, and then he lost it to Drew, and then he beat Drew for it. So I wouldn't be surprised if Randy ends up winning this to give him one more thing to do here, and that way it builds it up a little bit more,
Starting point is 00:46:20 and Cody will come back or something, or you put him in another storyline, or maybe have him go after the heavyweight championship for a little bit. I think Randy, what do you do at Randy if he loses again? Yeah. Yeah, Randy will probably win.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And that crowd's going to be so big. They've been trying to do every. They've been trying to make Randy just heal. And he's done all these dastly things. And the people are chanting one more time. We're at the age. We're at the era of the Roman gladiator days. Like we're like people are channing one more time as Cody's line in a pool of his own blood.
Starting point is 00:46:51 So yeah. And then. I will say you real quick. Yeah. That the audience confuses me sometimes. And soul stylist Chewpucks just did it. He wrote RIP, Bert Reynolds. And I said, oh my God, I thought Bert Reynolds died like 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:47:05 And he did. He died in 2018. I was like, what the hell? He was still wishing him to rest in peace. I was like, I was like, was that like the Mandela effect? Did he not die? I thought he died like eight years ago. It's like that family guy sketch, right?
Starting point is 00:47:18 Where it's like, I'm going through your results here. Dear God, what is it? Like, oh, no, the Yankees just lost an extra innings. Anyways, here's your cancer results. Oh, my Lord. What? Oh, my Lord. I just twisted my ankle.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah, right. exactly um all right i'll just do one more before we get me give me a few because i'm curious because there's okay so live morgan will win you think live morgan will be stephan yeah i think that do you see that there's another one you should watch they had a good brawl there i saw that because my my friend you know kathy kelly's a friend of mine oh yeah she took a bump yeah nice set ralans versus gunther uh man um this is probably the one if there's if there's a betting site that this is the all this is the toughest one to do because like You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:48:03 No, man, they got to have Gunther win, but you bring Seth Rollins back to lose? Gunther's going to win, and then that was the favor to Haman, and he'll be like, for the favor, I want to face, Brock, I want to retire him at SummerSlam. It writes itself, my friend. And maybe, you know what, you know who's going to come back and interfere will be. Oh, brawn. Bron breaker. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 By the way, how exciting the future. We're all excited about Oba family. But like three months ago, everybody was like all excited about Braun, too. Yeah, like that. Future days ahead. That's right. Braun costing set the match. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:38 That makes sense. That makes sense. Okay. Let's go to the, so the other, the free match. What do you think about this? Logan Paul,
Starting point is 00:48:45 Austin Theory, and I Show Speed versus Uso's and L.A. Knight. They did this, they did this promo where it was like a montage of them training I Show Speed. And like by the end of it, I show Speed's doing like moon salts and like,
Starting point is 00:48:58 yeah. It's not about the business like in, in the 80s. They would never do a montage. where they would show a YouTuber like, hey, it just takes an afternoon of hard work and now you can do moonsaults. Like they would, the business was so much more protected. Yeah, it was. It's true, but it's not anymore. It's just how it is, especially with that show. But, but it's not unsimilar to WrestleMania is where you had like Lawrence Taylor fighting in the Battle Royal and things like that.
Starting point is 00:49:19 So this is one of those gimmick matches and WrestleMania's need gimmick matches. I still think Logan Paul eventually will be a world champion. I mean, he's great on the mic. He's got great he he's really good in the ring and he can really promote the brand they'd be stupid to not give him at least one title run down the line but he you know he's he's but he still holds that youtube and everything stigma so they're not going to put the bottom yet but i think he's he's definitely has to respect with with his peers now where they're when he gets it he'll earn it and they'll and if you would have given it to him that quick when he fought roman rains people will lost their minds but now he's so good and he's really good dude yeah um i i i i
Starting point is 00:50:02 I would assume that they'll probably the you could see LA night winning this one because they want to give them some kind of win but I know Triple H famously just doesn't like LA night won't put the guy over for shit. But I've never been an LA night guy. Never been an LA night guy. To me it's like it's it's just someone doing the rock meets Stone Cold the whole time and he messes up his lines all the time. He messes up his moves a lot too. Yeah, because he's not because he's not like the things with the rock and stone cold is that's who they were. that was their escalation of the character. And so they didn't mess up their lines because they were, they were locked in and going. Yeah. Created this thing of this mixture of people that he's,
Starting point is 00:50:39 he's good at it, but he's, but it's not like, it's like, who is it? He wasn't being, he's not being a total authentic to himself. Right, right. Um, anyway, so I, that match can go either way, but I'll say L.A. Knight and those guys win. Um, see, Munk Roman reigns, because we should probably get to the games, but see him punk Roman reigns. Roman will win. They're going to put, they want, the WWE is in good shape when he's got a title on himself. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I think it's going to be dependent on Roman range schedule moving forward to. He still takes chemo, right? Yeah. He takes his time off. He's still keeping that in check. Like with pills, he's not doing like the gnarly stuff. When people are always giving him shit about his schedule,
Starting point is 00:51:22 I just want to be like, dude, they're not advertising it because he's not one to do that. But like, he needs that time off to like rebuild his body. well I think that that's why I mean look either way that belt is elevated with either one of those guys having it punk's had it for a bit now um yeah I think Roman gets it for a little bit do they shake hands at the end or do they remain mortal I hate you I think I think let's everybody hates a punk it's so shtick let's let's let's let's let them shake hands it'd be great yeah yeah it would be cool to have him have a couple um you know allies allies yeah um I'm just trying to see one more would be a good one where is it at the the Who's even the intercontinental champs?
Starting point is 00:52:01 Are we talking about that? Yeah, well, yeah, it's, well, it's the United States. Yeah, Interna, Dominic Mysterio versus the demon Finn Baller. That's not, that's, wait, so Dominic has the Interconnell title? Oh, he lost the Internec. The Intercontin title is that ladder match. You got Penta, Jayvon Evans, Dragon League, J.D. McDonough, and Rusev and Ray Mysterio. That's going to be a spot fest because that's like, that's free on ESPN.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yeah, that's going to be a showcase. The Interconinental title feels like the Cruiserweight title right now. I know. It's, it doesn't have no value to it. It's like, it's like, I repeat. appreciate what Penta did, but like the intercontinental title was used, used to be, let's build the next main eventer through the intercontinental title. If you had the intercontinental title, it meant that the company saw you as a potential
Starting point is 00:52:43 like the next big guy. During the attitude era, I remember when the rock dropped the intercontinental title to Triple H and the next week, the rock was in main events against Undertaker and Kay. Yeah, too, just the logical next step. Red Heart, Savage. I mean, all those guys. know like it was that's that's what happened you know it was like honky talk wasn't that guy but he held on to the inner kind of but he elevated the title i just know i don't i don't know like dominic
Starting point is 00:53:07 having it i thought made sense but maybe they're they're going to eventually move him to something but anyway um the let's get in these games there's other matches to uh to baler to answer your question i think uh bailer will probably win that because you can't you can't bring back hit that character and have them lose it just devalues that character yeah um okay so let's what are we doing first we're going to the game we're going to the gauntlet we're going to the gauntlet this a special gauntlet because it's going to be epic. All right, here it is. There is a final.
Starting point is 00:53:39 There is a final gauntlet too. Why is that one first? Of course, you have all the graphics. You can't be everything surprised. But this is going to be a gauntlet. But then your winner of this gauntlet goes into a final gauntlet, Christian. Okay. So choose wisely.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I see. I see what you're saying. Okay. All right. All right. So now, we don't see these are, we're not going to see these pictures. This is not. You're not going to do pictures.
Starting point is 00:53:59 The gauntlet, I can't do that. All right. Let's go. here we go. Here we go. Ready? Who is the best WWE superstar to never win a WWE world title? And I know there's already a name that pops in your head already.
Starting point is 00:54:11 I'm trying to create, but I'm not going to do an intro again. Actually, the first thing that popped in my head, I said that's actually not true. Who was it? Andre. Oh, yeah, but he did win. He did win, yeah. That would have been a good one. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I don't know if I were meeting him. Yeah. All right. This is the gauntlet and the winner of this gauntlet has to face one, two, three, seven other people. And I specifically, thanks to Craig, who helped me with some of the list and Saul. And Saul helped me with the final double final boss for you at the very end. This is world title?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Yes, WWE world title. Okay. So they did. Not heavyweight championship, but world title. No, no, no. Okay, got it. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:49 So your first two competitors are Shinske Nakamura or Jimmy Snooka. Best WWE start and never win a world title. Gauntlet begins now. Oh, man. they both had eras where they both could have had it. But in the era that he was in at that time, Jimmy Snooka, because he was the guy before,
Starting point is 00:55:14 like he was one of the guys right before Hogan and like jumping off that steel cage against Morocco. Okay. That moment alone, that was like unheard of those kind of spots. That was like, you know, nobody did that type of stuff. So at the time, Snooka. Inspiring a young Mick Foley who was in the crowd for me.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Yeah, 100%. Snooka's in a little. lead. Now you have Snooka versus Jerry Lawler. Jerry Lawler was like the AWA champ for so long. He just came into the WWE so late. So at the time he was in it from there two times, still Snucka.
Starting point is 00:55:45 So crazy though. He had that mainstream thing with what's this game, Man on the Moon. How am I forgetting? Andy. Andy Kaufman, yeah. Yeah, but that was all different factions, right? So like by the time, you're asking me like when they came into the, by the time he came in, he was already,
Starting point is 00:56:02 he was already out. So yeah. Okay. Jimmy Snooka still in the lead. Jimmy Snooka, Matt Hardy. He was the ECW had World Champion, but he never quite reached the WWE title. Again, era-wise, I think bigger superstar overall and more popular was Matt Hardy. But error-wise, from when they were in it,
Starting point is 00:56:24 in the structure that they were in, because Snooka could cut a promo, but because Matt Hardy couldn't cut a promo, and he never got to that level, I mean, I knew he cut promos later on with the stuff that he did in, uh, later on. I'd still say snooker for that era, but it was before Hogan. So it snooker, because running it. Yeah, I'm curious, I got, I got one that I know you're going to pick for sure, but not yet.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Snooka or King Kong Bundy. King Kong Bundy. Because, yeah, King Kong Bundy could have taken out Hogan in a shocker because this is before they were letting people take out Hogan and Hogan didn't lose the bell for four years. but Bundy with the title would have been such a disruption to in general. I would love to see him even for a month in the way they did for, to build it up to where Hogan had to get it back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Crushing his ribs right before WrestleMania 2 and all that. Like King Kong Bundy as world champion. You forget, people forget how devastating he was as a figure. Like he was when he squashed Special Delivery Jones or WrestleMania one. And like, that could have been a shock. right and then yeah yeah okay okay i would i would i would give bundy bundy should have gotten at least one title run oh wow i just came up with one just on the flight i can't believe it's not on my list so now king con bundy versus earthquake
Starting point is 00:57:46 m that wasn't on my list originally but i yeah earthquake would have been as a world title at the same time where everything was going on with a passing back and forward and trying to like figure out i mean the only thing you could have potentially done with earthquake is that instead of sergeant slaughter you know he was the guy that took the title off of hogan leading into it. But did he deserve to win the title of him? He was a good worker, but now I'd still say King Kong Bundy for that time. King Kong Bundy or L.A. Knight.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah. Now you're going to be surprised at my answer because of what I said early. I would say L.A. night. And I think that regardless of what I thought, what I think, you know, like I respect him as work. I'm just not a big fan. You would be stupid not to really. how over he was with the fans at one point.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And there was a run where it's like if he would have won it and had the title, even for like two months would have been something to hold when they were passing off titles. I mean, shoot, they give Jay Uso a run with the World Heavyweight Championship. L.A. Knight should have had one run to see how he could have done with it because he was so over with the fans. L.A. Knight over King Kong Bundy. Imagine that match. L.A. Knight or William Regal? Riegel would have been to never have a chance. I got to say Regal. Regal should have had a world. So I had the opportunity of actually driving to a house show with Regal and an
Starting point is 00:59:12 Xbox, which was, which was an interesting experience all in itself. And I, and I, we went out to like, we went out to eat afterwards and everything. He was, I loved William Reed. He was very nice to me. And he was, and he was, I remember just walking with my hands in my pockets. And he goes, take your hands out of your pockets. What if you fell? He was, he was great.
Starting point is 00:59:32 He's great. I love him. And he was a great work of people really respected him. And I think that he, him with a title run would have been, would have been, he would have held it well. So yeah, William Regal. William Regal or Rick Rood? That was my little banger in there. I have him right near the middle for you. Rick Rood. Rick Rood was awesome. Rick Rood was awesome. Rick Rood was awesome. Rick Rood was great on the mic. He was a great heel. He was agile. He was a tough son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:00:01 He's a great worker, had charisma, him with the world championship, like beating like, you know, whoever was Hogan or Savage, beating Savage during that run would have been made, yeah, Rick Rood. Because the way that I'm even doing this is envisioning them with the championship. And you know what he would do with that belt, too. He would do like, didn't, didn't you like suspend someone in the schmodeown for like desecrating your belt or something? Didn't Josh Kuga or someone like hump the belt or something? I feel like Rick Rood.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Oh, yeah, no. Who did that? Yeah, McCughey did that to Merle's belt. Merle was not happy about it. Yeah, I feel like Rick Rood would do that. He would take it. And then there would be in bed with the belt. And you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:40 Rick Rood should have had at least one championship run for sure. Rick Rude or Jake the Snake Roberts. Still go rude over. Roberts would have beaten a few other people on the list beforehand. And I don't know if there was anybody still this day better on the microphone than Jake Roberts. but with all the stuff again with potential issues and other things that he had to and running it him being the world champion for whether it's heal or not he could have had a title i mean he should have had a title at some point but if you're saying if you're choosing between the two Rick rude
Starting point is 01:01:13 Rick rude or Samoa Joe Rick rude Rick rude or the gobbly gobbly gocker just kidding I had that list and I sent it to Saul and Saul sent me a voice memo expressing his displeasure. He's like, there are plenty of people on the list better than the gobbledy gookers. Saul relax. Saul loves voice notes.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Oh, yeah. I love his voice notes. I listen to it like it's a radio station. He gave me a whole pitch about how Owen Hart should have won the title. And I mean, it's a great story. I think the Discord got rid of notes
Starting point is 01:01:46 because of Saul's notes. Yeah, I mean, I'll have a couple today. I like them, though. Yeah. I don't mind them either, but I'm insane. Let me tell you how I would have booked.
Starting point is 01:01:57 uh, the WrestleMania 10. Yeah, I don't mind. Saul, I don't mind when you send me voice just so you know, because he possibly, listen, listen, listen, listen. So, uh, here's the deal. Okay, uh, Rick Rood or Owen Hart speaking of. Oh, that's a tough one, man, because, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:15 look, yeah, as much as I loved him and thought he was great, I don't think he was a main event. Who? I don't think that Brent Hart was a main event guy. when he was doing the when he was curtain jerking deck in uh no i know royal and he lost a bad news brown and not world not world title though i think he had the titles that he was supposed to have
Starting point is 01:02:37 really yeah i don't think he was a world title when i was in the rockers did you ever pick that guy imagine if owen hard had another 10 years the second sean michael's kicked marty genetti through the the mirror you knew that guy was going for who's to say that owen wouldn't have not had his moment we'll have to maybe maybe i'm just saying between the two of them Rick Rood or Owen, if you're like, only one of them gets to be the world champion. Who do you think is a better run at world champion? It's Rick Rood.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Okay. Interesting. Okay. Rick Rood or Sammy Zane. Sammy Zane should have, another one that they could have, if they would have put the title on him when that Roman Raines match was happening, and the way that they were building it, that would have gone over
Starting point is 01:03:19 like Daniel Bryant. It would have went over really well. But his moment has passed. Does he deserve to be champion now? The way that Rick Rood maybe did. No, I don't think so. Rick Rood. I think Saudi Arabia, WrestleMania, they might finally get him there. But now he's turning heel. I don't think he was he was.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I shared an elevator with Sammy Zane when he was the El Generico. He was in character, spoke French, really nice dude. So Rick Rood, I knew Rick, see, I put this, I'm starting to know you. Rick Rood versus the British Bulldog. Rick Rood. Rick Rood versus Mr. Perfect. Mr. Perfect, Mr. Perfect, all day long. Mr. Perfect should have had, what a missed opportunity.
Starting point is 01:03:55 to not give Mr. Perfect the world championship when he was on his perfect run. Yeah. I mean, you could have turned him into the next flare in the way that Kurt Henning was one of the best in the ring of all time. He won the Intercontinental Championship. Mr. Perfect in that gimmick to play with that gimmick should have been the Intercontinental Champion, the tag team champion, the world champion at the same time. That would have been funny. That's Mr. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:04:23 He just had all the bell. guy was throwing footballs to himself and capturing him in the basketball i remember oh that big net was awesome perfect was one of yeah absolutely mr perfect i used to take my towel when i would go to the gym and i would do the whole thing and there's gum yeah the best yeah mr perfect or tatanka mr perfect i had to think about the second one mr tautonka used to have this workout program you posted yeah he was called pyramid workouts yeah i still have it printed out to this day and i saw him at a wrestle convention and i sat that like i didn't bother him i just said hey i used to do your program he's like oh the pierc is he was a really nice guy but mr perfect all they want mr perfect or
Starting point is 01:04:58 raser ramon the bad rizormone could have had a title run and probably should have had a title run and if you would have given me raise romeone you know six guys ago but over mr perfect no way mr perfect's going strong mr perfect or ted dbios wait he did have the belt didn't he um technically he bought okay but yeah ted db technically i mean there is footage you can see footage of them announcing him as the world champion after Andre gave him the belt. You know, he handed it over. So technically you can find that footage. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:32 He's out. Well, I mean, yeah. But I mean, he, in, in that storyline, it would have made sense for him to have it. But did he need to be worse? I love, I think he's one of my favorite heels of all time. But he didn't need to be the champion. He did what he, what he did? Remember when he took that basketball and he like popped it, made the kid cry?
Starting point is 01:05:51 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I miss those like seconds. All right, here we go, buddy. We're going to start testing your loyalty here. Mr. Perfect or Ricky Steamboat. Ricky Steamboat should have been champ,
Starting point is 01:06:03 especially after the flare run in Russell, when he came back and they put the stupid dragon thing on him and all that stuff too, he should have come back and they should have capitalized on that, but they were still in the era of the big dude. I hate to say this because I love him so much. But if you're asking me, you've got to have only one of them gets to be world champion ever in their career. Who do you do? Mr. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Mr. Perfect. Mr. Perfect. Or Roddy, Rowdy. Roddy Piper. See, that's mean to do. I'm mean, bro. I try to torture you. That's my goal.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Boy, Roddy didn't need the world championship, though. Mr. Perfect. Roddy didn't need it. He didn't need it. He had one. He was there for as long as he was. He had one championship, which is the Intercontinental Championship. He had won.
Starting point is 01:06:53 I just watched that movie that match with Brett Hart. Roddy didn't need championships. There were very few guys that didn't need championships to really get themselves over, and Roddy was one of them. Roddy, he didn't need it. Interesting. Okay. Dusty Roads.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Mr. Perfect. Dusty Roads. If Dusty Roads would have been in the WW in 1984, then yes. But by the time he came in with Sapphire and everything else, too. Forget the Kocodots. Let's say they signed him over and he was just as he was in the NWA and WCW. I mean, but if they've signed him over in early before, you know, if they, remember, people don't realize that he was supposed to be the guy before Hogan.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Yeah. He was the guy that they were going to bring over, but they decided not to. It was going to be Dusty Rhodes, not Hulk Hogan. Vince wanted a guy to lead them into the future and to take the title and start this whole new thing. Dusty was the first choice. And then they pivoted and went to Hogan. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Now we're going to go to double gauntlet. So you got Mr. Perfect. Yeah. Mr. Perfect has won the first gauntlet. So now we go to cue the graphics. Hold on. Which graphic? This one here?
Starting point is 01:08:11 Here we go. So these are going to be winners. There's a couple people are probably just scratching their eyes out. Why didn't I put it? Put it in these are final bosses, but also a couple champions that actually won a title, maybe a WCW title or a WV title. It was controversial or it wasn't earned or whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:27 want to say. So the first one, so now you have Mr. Perfect going up against David Arquette. Mr. Perfect. He didn't win the title, though. Do you remember he did a sketch? I know. It's the stupidest thing ever. That was the, that was when W.C.W. was on the, on the way out. Courtney Cox involved in one of their background sketches. So bad. Mr. Perfect versus the great colleague. Mr. Perfect. Mr. Perfect. Mr. Perfect versus Jack Swagger.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Mr. Perfect. Is he? It's like, why did Mr. Perth? Why did these guys get titles, but Mr. Perfect didn't? That's the whole point of this. Yeah. Now this is one I don't want me to be smirch him because I was stoked when he won it because I actually think he's a really cool dude. Mr. Perfect or Jinder Mahal. Mr. Perfect. Jinder Mahal was awesome. I remember when I was like they should do that rich gimmick. He's like, dude, Ted DiBiase.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Yeah, they were very smart and they went after, you know, the Indian fan base and it was very smart in how they did that. And I thought, I thought that was great. It was a surprise for people to do. They should have done that more often. Like I remember when Chris, I mean, this is very different wrestlers. Chris Jericho took the title off of Triple H during a Monday Night Raw. I were watching it live and then they quickly reversed the decision. But they should have, they should have let that decision stand for like a couple of,
Starting point is 01:09:39 you know, weeks or whatever. Okay. Mr. Perfect, man. I think he's my, we'll see. Mr. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Or the Ms. Mr. Perfect. The miss is going to win the title now. Mr. perfect is. Oh, so you say taking away like you can't be champion if I give it to this guy instead. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Mr. Perfect. Okay. Mr. Perfect. or DDP, Diamond Dallas Page. Mr. Perfect. All right, here we go. Here's the final two bosses.
Starting point is 01:10:03 They're standing next to each other. Mr. Perfect or your boy, Lex Lugar. Did he ever, oh, he won the WCW title a couple times. Mr. Perfect. You didn't think the Lex Express, if they would have ended with the title, that could have ended up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:17 I understand why Lex had it a couple times because of how massive and how over he was, but I was like Mr. Perfect. Now you have a chance for Mr. Perfect to be a champion in the WWE or the one. that never won a title in wwe but had a couple matches sting yeah he wasn't in w bdb long enough and he had his run in wc w so i'd still say mr perfect should have had one mr perfect runs the gamut that is you would have said mr perfect versus the warrior though whose title you got you
Starting point is 01:10:43 got you got to take away the warrior's title yeah that would take the way the warrior's title you wouldn't so you would keep the warrior would then reign supreme at the end yeah because of what that match was and what it meant and how over warrior was at that point And their choice to try to get Warrior to be the next guy was the right in play. It just didn't work out. But like, but yeah, that I wouldn't take. But of all the people who've never won the championship, Mr. Perfect should have been the guy. A lot of love for Mr. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:11:10 That's awesome. That's awesome. Anyway. When he was in WCW, I hate rap, rap is crap. Cowboys singing. Yeah, there's, he had so many legendary runs. His injuries and stuff is what hurt him. But, all right, now we're going to do some questions.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Yeah, we've got some questions. And then, uh, I think we already have 260 super chats to get through. Oh, that says- Close, 26, but not bad. All right, let's go with this first one. All right. The Undertaker debuts in 2026, and Bray Wyatt debuts in 1990.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Christian, who becomes the bigger legend? That's a great question. These are things that keep me up at night. And they both show up with their same gimmicks now? Same gimmicks, but 1990, it's Bray Wyatt, and it would be like this year, Undertaker comes out with Paul Bear, let's say skip the brother love, Paul Bear, Undertaker's totally straight, like straight dead man gimmick. Bray Wyatt would have the better, his, his gimmick transferred over better to both eras than the Undertaker's gimmick with Paul Bear would transfer over today. Yeah. And the way that wrestling is, he'd have an easier, Bray Wyatt would have an easier time fitting into,
Starting point is 01:12:27 the bad guys versus good guys as opposed to whatever this is now you know and an undertaker would you know and he would undertaker held k fap so well back then and he held it forever that you wouldn't be doing that i don't that's just not what he did so before you'd even get to the ring there'd be six podcasters being like oh i saw him in ovbw and no right so so yeah i were saying he needs to go to a ew and all that so yeah all right next one well i would say that the mont you got it we can't we can't can't count out Mark Calloway all the way. I think Mark Calloway could have a shot. I think maybe he would maybe try to pivot and maybe go back to the American badass thing. But yeah, but you're talking about, but you're talking about the gimmick. You're talking about the gimmick as they
Starting point is 01:13:09 debut. Yeah. And as they debuted, like, you wouldn't. Yeah. That would be, it would be tough. If there's one guy that could that could do it, it would be taker, but like, but he would, I'd potentially tell you himself, it would be a harder, it would be harder to get that gimmick over, especially now when Cape is, like, dead. Yeah. And that era, protected mystery, which would lead right into Bray Wyatt's. Okay. Great. Next one.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Which of these on-screen legends, objectively, this is from Kaiser, actually, when he came down. Good. Which of these on-screen legends, objectively, was the best mentor? We got Obi-1, we got Mickey, and we got Colonel Troutman. How did Mickey get in there? Mickey, not Mickey Mouse. Mickey from Rocky. Mickey from Rocky.
Starting point is 01:13:58 I love Luke. Luke is the best. Luke, you gotta do this every week, one of them. Why does Mickey look like he's gonna beat your ass? Owing him money to his bookie. I bet you Luke's never seen a rocking movie. Oh my God, that's the best.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Oh, that's the best. I'm like, what the hell is Mickey doing there? You thought he meant Mickey Mouse. Why would Kaiser say Mickey Mouse? It's like, why would Kaiser say Mickey Mouse? Oh my God, that is the best. All three great choices. Luke is the best, man.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Oh, my God. Well done, Luke. Dude, Luke has to explain himself and out. My reasoning, what I think he's going to say is he just doesn't watch Rocky movies. I had no idea who you're talking about. Did you say Mickey from Rocky or did you just say Mickey? I we had some fun this is I was in on this one a little bit oh you guys did on purpose I don't want to I don't want
Starting point is 01:15:18 Luke to he knows who Mickey is I'm sure maybe not maybe I maybe you would have but oh so good anyway um so I would uh I actually strange enough I probably I will I would take uh I would take Mickey to be honest Mickey to me is the best because if Troutman was just one and one and two I just watched all three movies with Winston that he was in. If it was just one and two, Troutman would have a better... Troutman is terrible in the third movie.
Starting point is 01:15:49 He's like, he gilts... Ramos's living in peace. Ramos living, he's beating the shit out of people with sticks, but then he's like helping the monks out. He's not bothering anybody. And Trump was like, come on, this peace thing's not for you. Let's go pill people.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Come on. And he's like, no, he's like, I don't want to. I want to stay here. I'm like, what I'm doing? He's like, ah, you might want to, but it's always in you, John. He's got to wake up. What a shit mentor that.
Starting point is 01:16:10 The guy's at peace. Leave him alone. And these cracking bad jokes as they're running around in Afghanistan. Yeah, Troutman lost the race because of that one. And then Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan has... Obie one was hiding people in coats. He lost me. No, Obi-1.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Well, yeah. Well, Obi-1 also, you know, failed at the one person he was supposed to mentor. The guy ended up turning Darth Vader and killing half the galaxy. Right. Right. Right. He didn't, Rocky won a few titles. Yeah, Rocky didn't kill him.
Starting point is 01:16:41 If Rocky went off on a shooting spree and started killing everybody at Mickey's gym because they were making fun of him, then Mickey fails. Somebody put a good one in there that would have been a hard choice. Mr. Miyagi would have been a hard choice. Oh, wow. Yeah, why didn't, Kaiser, that's on you? Why didn't you have that?
Starting point is 01:16:56 Kaiser blew it. That would have been a good one. Well, maybe, maybe we'll save that for another one. For another mentor because maybe for a gauntlet or something, too. Better mentor. I'll go to you on that one. Mr. Miyagi, 100, would have been, I mean, I don't know. Between him and Mickey, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Dude, Rocky's like punching meat and talking to turtles and then ends up being the world champion like a year later because of Mickey. And he's a lot of them. Obi-one's out. Troutman. So what movie do you think to me why Mickey wins? There's one movie, one scene. The, uh, I dare, dare I say it.
Starting point is 01:17:30 It's the, uh, it's the one where he's questioning him. I can't remember which one it is. but he's literally, he just dog shits on Rip Rocky. He's like, you're not going to do it. Rocky 2 in the church. The church. You're thinking of three. You're thinking of three when he says,
Starting point is 01:17:49 Oh, when he's in the church. Inside a three rounds. That's the third one. Yeah. The second movie, he wants to train Rock. He's like, and he's telling Rocky, let's go get this. Let's, let's kick his face in. Let's go, let's get him.
Starting point is 01:18:00 And Rock won't train because, because he's, Adrian, and then Adrian goes into a coma, and he's not training and Mickey goes in the church he goes look you want to blow this thing I'll blow it with you I'll blow it with you and he just sits next to him yeah and he just and he just with him morning doing anything and he's like he's like he's like he's not you know he's he's just sitting there with him trying to do whatever he can hoping the guy's going to snap out of it but he realizes I'm there for you that's a mentor you know it's underrated scene too is in uh rocky five the flashback with him in the ring and it takes place supposedly the night yeah right with the that was a great
Starting point is 01:18:38 that would be bad yes get up you son of a bitch troutman has a banger all liner though when he has the uh i didn't i didn't come to rescue rambo from you yeah yeah or i came here to rescue you from him yeah of course but like but there were certain things Kaiser chooses troutman by the way no he's nuts he's not he said try taught rambo how to fucking wear hogs skin and and sure tell but give him let him let him watch is he watching his live i don't think he's watching us live I don't watch a live and then he can hear my argument on the on the third. He's got to come in. That would be fun.
Starting point is 01:19:09 All right. So we, uh, yeah, we both pick Mickey. All right. You're forced to survive one minute in the octagon. With one of these legendary tough wrestlers.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Um, by the way, Lou, um, because we're going to have any time for the super chats. I have extra questions here just in case we, uh, but we might save some for next week if we don't get through.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Um, dude, this is, this is, there's no right answer here. This, this, it's all pain.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I, you know what I, say? I would jump off a bridge. I'd make it quicker. Yeah. There's no, there's literally no right answer here. I, I don't know. There's no right answer. Who would try to survive? I would not survive with, for one minute, there's no chance. I was leaning towards Harley Race because he would be old, if he was older and he could, you could run away from him or Shamrock, right? But then I just saw a podcast where Vince Russo told a Shamrock story. He said that big show was heckling Shamrock and catering. And Shamrock
Starting point is 01:20:04 during, you know, because he was a rookie and whatever. And Shamrock turned around to Big Show and said, if you don't stop this, I'm going to put you on the ground screaming for help in less than three seconds. And Big Show, just being the lug that he is, just thought he can keep doing it. And Vince Russo said, swear to God, in three seconds, he took Big Show down and Big Show was crying uncle in three seconds. So that's what that's, you can't get away from for three seconds.
Starting point is 01:20:28 He said it fights with Hoyst Gracie? Have you ever seen his fights? dude they had legendary UFC battles when there was like no rules and stuff those guys were like he was like the first big huge superstar blackman is one of the guys supposed to be one of the toughest dudes in the world Harley race every time
Starting point is 01:20:44 you asked old school wrestlers who the toughest people were they always had two answers Hakku Harley Race Haku tried to scratch someone's eye out of his socket so no business fucking with Haku Haku is nowhere near where I'm even considering how do you watch these Harley race matches though when he was just doing like primetime wrestling, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:04 when he was the King Harley race, you look at him. It's like, how is that guy tough? Like, I feel like you choose him. Super tough, those old school guys. The only reason I'll take him is for your reason alone. If you get him when he's like 85 years old, drunk, half asleep, and I guess, and I still don't think that I survive. But he's the only person that I would even remotely,
Starting point is 01:21:24 all the rest of those guys would kill you within 15 seconds. 15 seconds. And now, before you go to the next thing, because I want to make sure you would, because I want to go. some good ones because one of them might take longer and we just don't have time for it so we'll do it next week but i will say if you had all those guys in the hunger games like in an arena they're just hand-to-hand who wins who's the last one standing oh where is that that sees guys who's the last one
Starting point is 01:21:45 yeah um last one standing yeah i'm gonna go all in their prime i'm going i'm going with haku yeah haku i'm going to haku i'm going hot co dude i just like that guy even at his old age now he scared when he's didn't they show him in the audience oh my god that guy there's a prank i can't remember who was it i think it was what i can't remember they they were doing some kind of prank and haku was one of was getting pranked and like with the family and stuff and haku came out to go after them and
Starting point is 01:22:19 look in his eyes you just went no no no they told him quick it was a prank because he would have killed oh man okay um just let me just make sure i say the next question before you jump on it because again we're going to run out of time and one of these might take too long And so, Craig, my apologies, I think we're going to have to, or one of them is going to have to take. We're going to save one of them. Best on the mic, but one's got to go. I like to torture.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Can you bring this up, Luke? Because I can't, there you go. Okay. Thanks, Luke. Best on the mic, but one's got to go. You got C.M. Punk. You got Paul Heyman. You got the rock and you got Roddy Piper.
Starting point is 01:22:54 And it's funny because you were just saying someone else was really good on the mic. And I didn't put them on. Oh, Roddy. No, there was someone else you mentioned. But anyways, out of these guys, one's got to go. you can have to get rid of one person. Yeah. They'll ruin their career if you get rid of them, huh?
Starting point is 01:23:10 Or there's a whole... It's like, if you had to be like, hey, I need three of the... You only have three roster spots and you need to be all the best promo guys. You know, it's like kind of like creating a three-person rushmore. But can I...
Starting point is 01:23:26 Don't have to get rid of them out of the league, do I? I don't know. You know, I probably... They're gone. Sorry. Strangely enough. I would take out the rock. That's the craziest thing ever, and I'll tell you why. Yeah, I don't agree, but let's hear.
Starting point is 01:23:46 I think he's probably, now if you ask me who's the best out of all of them, he's still up there as the best, or maybe next to, I mean, they're all four of them are great. I don't know where you'd rank him, but I think he's the only one out of the four of them that could survive without being on the mic. He built his career being on the mic and the things that he said in the comedy and everything. He saved his career being on the mic. Remember that.
Starting point is 01:24:13 100. 100%. That young rock show shows that part is really cool. 100%. It's what made his careers with how good he was on the mic. But the rest of them couldn't survive without the mic skills. They just couldn't. There's no way.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Piper was built the Piper's Pit and everything too. and he wasn't necessarily the most athletic guy in the world. He was athletic. He was definitely a boxer and everything too, but he wasn't. Rock was just superior and athletic to all them. Paul Heyman needs the mic in order to build up and to do the things. And I think the only thing,
Starting point is 01:24:48 the only caveat I was take, if it was taking Paul Heyman out out of the three of them is because with Paul Heyman, he could still have his mind behind the scenes. Yeah. You don't necessarily need him on the mic. So I'll retract it and I'll say Paul Heyman. but he i was going in with that too but you just told me but paul haman is so important because
Starting point is 01:25:07 he spoke for wrestlers a ton of them a ton of them but that's and they're gone too because there's no brock let like he's talking i mean i'm not because you go always find someone else too so i mean i'll i'll go back to it i'll say i'll say haman reluctantly interesting yeah i mean piper promos were great they didn't it he always sounded like he was like yelling at someone in a parking Love. You ever see the promo when he split his head open with the glass bottle? No, I thought you're talking about the coconut one. Luke, see, no, no, look, see if you can bring up, um, video of Roddy Piper, smashes, Rottie Piper smash his glass bottle overhead during promo.
Starting point is 01:25:46 It'll pop up and then we'll send me that video and we'll play it. All right, Luke, um, while you're doing that, yeah, there's one question that's going to take us long, so I'm going to save that for next week. Okay. That would be the, so don't do the pair of the following cinema icon. We're going to do one more and then do the Super Chats? Let me just make sure. So we had that, we had that.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Yeah, we'll do one more and it's going to be, because this is based on what you guys were talking about. Sorry, Craig, your comedic wrestlers one. We'll do that next week. But this is because you talked about interspace yesterday when I was going through the footage. You get a blank check to remake one of the following classics. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:25 You can make Interspace. you can make the last starfighter you can make remake flight of the navigator or cloak and dagger well it would definitely cloak and dagger's out of there that grandma with the three fingers like my grandma and it made when i watched that movie i was scared of my grandma for a month the only thing i remember that that the kid blew some smote-down match with that question that's i think there was a cloak and dagger question and shazam i think there was a cloak and dagger question and am loss or something like that. It was the kid, the kid missed one because of
Starting point is 01:27:00 the cloak and dagger. I can't remember what match. There's the only thing I know about cloak and dagger. I never seen it. So flight of the navigator, inner space and what was the third one? Interspace, the last Starfighter. Last Starfighter. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Last Starfighter and they're already doing it. But I would last Starfighter. They are? Yeah. There's a. Go ahead. I would say, I would say that has the most potential to work with what's going on with AI and other things and everything else too, what you could do with it.
Starting point is 01:27:28 I would say Last Starfighter for sure. Both of those other ones could be good. I'd love to see a flight of the Navigator. I think they're, I'm sure they're going to be doing one of that too, I'm sure. Inner Space during, imagine Inner Space in like 1995, 96 with Jim Carrey. Because remember a lot of that was like the physical comedy with Martin Short, like when they're going through his thing. That could have been fun.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Definitely. Last Starfighter, for fans who like The Last Starfighter, there's a book by Ernest Klein, the ready to player one guy, and he wrote it called Armada. Shocked, they never made a movie out of it, but it's very similar where they had this game and everybody was playing it. And even when the book was released, they made a web browser game where you can play it.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Same thing, a kid gets recruited, but it's like an armada that invades Earth. The book's gnarly, man. They're killing humans and wiping out, like, gas stations with, like, characters that you get to know in the book, and then they're dead. But it was like Last Starfighter, but it was preparing for Earth,
Starting point is 01:28:19 and they were coming to Earth. So you do Last Starfighter. Cloak and Dagger would work because it would be imagined if, like, Master Chief and Halo popped through the screen and now he was like hey you got to come with me you know what I mean like it was basically Cloak and Dagger was Daphne Coleman was in the video game and then he comes out because he's trying to help the kid but it was all in his it's interesting Luke got me the the video for um for piper so I'm gonna um let's see it yeah I got to bring it up
Starting point is 01:28:46 hold on let me see um give me a second this got it's if you guys haven't seen it it's it's pretty it's pretty nuts I can't believe you've never seen it before well I'm I'm trying to think i always think of the coconut thing so should i should just asked luke to put it in the damn thing uh let me let me get it uh is that okay is it it's it's it's getting downloaded to the uh well let's do one more there's one that i forgot there's one quick one that we can do uh and it is craigs this was craig submission from when they were visiting me for my birthday pick one of the following comedic wrestlers because i know you've told me i had age walker tech i worked for that company save the save the phone here it's here it is your forehead yes sir why it's not going to be my label
Starting point is 01:29:39 let's move silence here okay watch this now and that is a genuine beer I just checked it this much oh oh oh come here the glass in my hand and you listen to me sheep herders You listen to me, this would knock just any normal man down, sheepherters. But I want you to just think about one thing. Getting this title in the cage is going to make $45,000 difference in my annual earnings, brother. This is the biggest match of my life, and I'm going to do it with my partner. And you listen to me. There's an old saying, sheep brothers.
Starting point is 01:30:23 You think we're just getting started? Saddle the ponies. Listen to me, brother. Saddle your pony. You bet. you don't you don't get promos like that anymore dude that remind like when you out when you're facing someone like in real life and they just do that they're like see another i'm fucking crazy i was surrounded by a big dude in austin once i was with my buddy adam and we were in austin at like a jimmy johns and like these drunk guys came up to us it was me and this other short guy and there was two big guys and um they were just starting to like talk shit or whatever and it was in my you know douchebag days but i was like the only way to get out of this is to fucking prove. So I went up to the biggest guy and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:31:05 I said, I'm going to fuck. And I started like hitting myself and being crazy. And the guy literally was like, all right, this is fucking, this guy's nuts. Got out of it. Yes, hilarious. So like, Roddy was well, and you don't want that guy to have a title? Come on. He didn't need it. He didn't need it.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Stuff like that. I'm telling you, the guy didn't need to be world champ. He just, he didn't need it. It was the moments like that prove. He just didn't need it. He was a special, special kind of performer man like i'm telling you like the story again you've seen get mad at jete do you have a story you ever seen that clip i've seen the clip i want you to share with your bands i was as i have told the story before my my good friend steve simone who was who was i was i performed him at this comedy star all the time he was the one who brought roddy to
Starting point is 01:31:52 mark and i were doing a show at the um a comedy show at this place called room five which is no longer there But it's where we shot Rassamina Stras. So he's like, hey, Roddy wants to come do a set. Do you want him to come by us? Are you kidding me? Bring him by immediately. And not only did we have them up there, we played the backpipes for him when he came up. And then Ken got to do a segment with him while I was up there.
Starting point is 01:32:14 The audience was screaming Roddy, right? It was incredible. It was incredible. So I literally have the picture from that night hanging on my wall. And Roddy was, then, you know, I became friendly with him because of it. And then I would go on the hot rod pod, the Rod pod, the Rod Pod with, and Steve was hosting it with him. So I went on a couple of times and Steve went out of town to do gigs. And he's like, listen, when I'm out of town, Roddy wants to know if you want to co-host with him because he likes you.
Starting point is 01:32:45 I was to co-host Roddy show with him. And so I was doing the Shmo's show at the same place. And I said, Roddy, you know, well, you want to come in and come on the show tonight, the Shmoh show? Because he had done a couple things. We did this viewer viewers awards and he did a segment for us and used to do things for us. And I said, would you do, would you want to be a guest on the show? He's like, yeah, absolutely. And he was and so when he was coming in and I said, hey, I want to prank my intern and we'll kind of, you know, we'll go after him and do some stuff and we'll prank him.
Starting point is 01:33:15 And I was like, we're going to be doing this thing. He'll ask you about like, they live and something will come up and you can get pissed off of him and kind of go after him. And then we'll escort you out. And it's like, all right, but then he comes in. And he goes and he's like, I'm just, one of his friends has just passed. And he was with his son. And he's like, I'm, I'm just, I'm not up for it. I'm not, I'm just, I'm just want to do the interview.
Starting point is 01:33:37 And I was like, don't worry about it. That's cool. No worries at all. During the interview, we're talking. He's having a good time. He looks at me. He goes, and I go, all right. And, and then I brought up and he, and he did it.
Starting point is 01:33:50 And it was me, Katie was on the show with a sack off. And if you haven't seen, if anybody hasn't seen the clip, it's, it's, it's, it's, It's really great. Is it on your channel? I don't know where, you know, maybe we can make that, we may make a short out of it. But it's, um, Roddy Piper, let's see, Slaps intern, I think it's called. Um, yeah, Roddy Piper slaps and intern. Um, how many?
Starting point is 01:34:14 Oh, it's on Ken Knappstock's channel? The hell. When did he put that on there? Oh, like 13 years ago. Um, so we, we have it, we have it a few different times, but, uh, we got to, you got to get that on your channel. I know. I got to, I got to put that on my channel.
Starting point is 01:34:26 I'll put it on there. Maybe Luke or somebody can rip it and we'll post it up there, but it's a great clip. All right. Are you ready? Ready for what? Let's do the super chats. Yeah, we'll do the super chats. I got some good ones for next week.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Good. All right, here we go. Let's do it for 33. We got to get, let's get Kevin to 100. Let's at least do that. Go, pal, support. Probably catching a replay today. Good time to catch a replay.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Make sure you do it. Speaking of other things we're coming up, Scary Movie 2, the reaction will be coming up at 2.3. today on the channel so look for that um game of thrones episodes eight oh sorry season eight episode one and two drops on friday we'll have that and then rambo part two is on monday okay lincoln west oh and i'm doing it out of the theater from michael tomorrow i'm excited to see i'm curious how that you know i always ask you a question about a movie i'm like hey you can spoil it for me every movie you come out of i'm always like you can tell me the spoiler yeah it's a
Starting point is 01:35:26 there is link one part one of the two part or if it's covering his whole life i think it's a part one from one i hear okay yeah congrats to kevin and his co-tour channel for reaching over 100k subs 101 to be exact yeah you're crushing it over and you brought over some fans over here from from there too by the way that's awesome yeah it's funny it's funny one of the shorts that's doing really well it was just a a tibotron from a hockey game of like all the look a look-a-likes from star wars so you never know yeah uh you're a big-time co-tore fans yeah lincoln rules uh that's lincoln by the way armada roca and mike going at it on twitter call mori yeah what's that those two it there's no two people that should have their twitter taken away more so than those
Starting point is 01:36:09 two um they it's just they can't help themselves and then go after each other on twitter my roca texted me last night and showed me he wants he wants to debate mike on this show yeah um so whoever wants to do it can come they can come and do it but it's got to be either mike coming on roka show and mike not getting paid or roka going on mike show and roca not getting paid um i'm going to give you a guess on who will probably you know concede roca roca would go rocca probably would actually they both probably would um so roca to get his point because to be fair to roca when roca when we were doing that whole thing on gina carano and um and rousey rocca just popped in just to do it so he would he would do it and and also to be very fair to roka roka
Starting point is 01:36:57 when roka was doing live shows for free for like three months for me so um my more mike on twitter's funny though and he'll just start a tweet with like oh go fuck the right we're right oh go fuck right the fuck off you fucking idiot like they're they're they're they're they're it's it's it's crazy it with how they act on on twitter to each other mike on the same show yeah i mean that would be that would definitely be fireworks i mean i'll see if i'll see if mike wants to pop in on monday what was there was they still going on are they going at it like now is that why this is going on or you guys look it up maybe there's some new tweets we could put on show me some more if you're they're going out of something about the wb right it's yeah that's
Starting point is 01:37:45 i think roca said something about gun not being there and then Snyder uh snider uh snider Calanowski just called him out for being a gun hater and all these and different things. Oh, wow, it got there. I got as far as the part where he's like, you didn't talk about this with Marvel and Kevin Feige yet. I didn't know. I should get them to debate. Michael D.,
Starting point is 01:38:06 can we get a show between Mike and Roka on Monday? I got to see if Mike's schedule is kind of nuts, but I'll see if he'll pop in and do it. Roka challenged him to debate James Gunn on here, says Mike. I did see that, yeah. Could be interesting. Yeah, no, look, I'll reach out to Mike and see if he wants to do it. Yoshimitsu, who is Kim.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Kate Winslet, who is Keith was playing in Golan? Her character's name is not in the books. Last time they added new characters, it was terrible. I like Teriel. She was fine. Relax. Tariol, is that what's her face from Lost? Kate, Teriel? Yeah. Angelouilly. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 01:38:38 the love thing. I mean, I just thought that was interesting. And also as a fan of the game, the third age, which was like a Final Fantasy 10 clone, but in the Lord of the Rings era. And they had like a cool, like, female elf that reminded me of Tariol when that movie came out. This one, this is, I wouldn't be supposed...
Starting point is 01:38:54 I wonder he's playing, though, Kate Winslow. Look at this. Badgers fan. Yo, yesterday's show, Keo was bragging. You gave him the IG belt after the Schmode unended. Shouldn't end up gone to smash.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Okay, I... Hold on. I do have a bone to pick with you about this. Oh, here we go. He used it because I was... That was when I was... I just chimed in and I was just saying about that IG Teams thing.
Starting point is 01:39:12 I actually took his side, but then you were starting to razz him and how he doesn't want to do the show because he thinks you're always going to make us do a fucking impromptu match, which I've forgotten all my smash shit. But here's my problem. him with you. You gave him that belt. Which belt did I give him? You gave him the old
Starting point is 01:39:28 the old inner geekdom boxing belt. Right. Right. But he used it as a weapon and he was like, well, who's the better IG player? I'm the one. Who's the one you gave the belt to? You gave it to me. And he has every right to think that. And I even think, and I've told him this before, no one deserves that belt more besides they could, they could have split custody between Rachel and Mike. They made that old belt what it is. Yeah. But giving it to him gives him that ammo. because him and I are, we're going to be the two people that were like, the civil war, like 90 years old arguing about it. But you basically agree to why I gave it to him.
Starting point is 01:40:02 You just don't like the way that he reacts once you gave it to him. But okay, now I'm going to hold your feet to the fire a little bit about something. Because you mean well, but sometimes execution is very poor, okay? That side man, I say? Yes, very poor. So he's moving. He says, hey, come by. He knows how much that belt meant.
Starting point is 01:40:20 I wanted, I got to keep it. I wanted, by the way, I came back from Kansas. to win the belt back. Right. And I had it. And then you're moving and you're like, hey, I'm moving. And you knew I wanted the belt back to like have it. I would put on the stand.
Starting point is 01:40:31 You know how much. Where is it right now? If it's in a box, I'll punch your face. So granted, Christian is such a good dude. He's about to move out of L.A. He sends me, he's like, will you come by? I have something I want to give you before I move.
Starting point is 01:40:43 And that morning, he texts me an animated GIF, GIF, Soft G, animated GIF of Smashor, me, holding the belt up. And I take, I look, I should. show Dasha. I'm like, oh my God, he's going to give me the belt before he moves to New York. I get to have the belt. He's coming home. It meant a lot to me. That's so great. I drive over there. And you know what he gives me here? Have a couple fucking slices. I got some slices. I got like three slices back here. And I'm sitting here. And he even realizes
Starting point is 01:41:10 it. And he says, oh, you laughing? Yeah. This is, by the way, this is the slice where I won it back. When I want it back in the final. Yeah. This is what I landed on. Yeah, right. See, so it's so because it was piling up and you gave it. the rest of Frank. Frank literally has. That would be a super chat special. Have Frank come on and he gets hand out all the slices. You want the money answer to this too? I know how much it costs.
Starting point is 01:41:34 I offer you double. I said I- Nobody got those belts. Dan didn't get, Dan didn't get that belt. Dan could have made an argument to get that belt. The only two people that got belts. Well, three people got belts.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Your boy, Mike. No, actually four people got belts. Yes. Wait. Chris my belt. I came back from cancer for God. Three people were... I'll get cancer again.
Starting point is 01:41:55 I'll get cancer again and come back. Three people were given belts. One person stole a belt. I heard about that. Who stole it? I forget. I'll tell you. So the first person to get a belt was, I believe that it was, Kalanowski who got the big red belt, right?
Starting point is 01:42:15 No, no, that's not true. Roka got the big gold belt. That was the first Smodown title ever. Yeah, he deserved that for sure. We got that a spectacular. Dan and I agreed that he should get it, win or lose, that he should get that title because it was like, because it was like that, they were playing for that,
Starting point is 01:42:31 even though they weren't, either one was champion at the time, they were playing for that because it was such a historic match. So regardless, Roca was going to get that winner lose. So Roca got that first. Then Mike got the old school belt because like you said, Mike built that division.
Starting point is 01:42:44 The Intergeekin division was really like floundering. And we had matches every once in a while. When Mike took that character and ran with it, and we did the Intergeacon division. Eakdom tournament. That's when the title got validity. No, he turned it into the intercontinental division, what I always wanted it to be. So Mike deserved it. But you know what he now uses it as.
Starting point is 01:43:04 100%, but that's another conversation. The third, 90 years old, me and Mike, like he got the teams, old school teams belt because the, what the Patriots did for the team's title, right? And it was also, it was not the new team's belt. It was the old team's belt. It was kind of the one that he had. And then the other. reason I gave to him was I didn't have the other one because Snyder stole it at the Schmodeown
Starting point is 01:43:27 Spectacular, the third one. We displayed all the old belts and everything there too. And Snyder took it. And I knew he didn't. He told me he didn't. And then I saw him on Twitter. Sell it. And he was selling it on Twitter. Fucking rat. I don't even know if you sold it or not. But like, so, so there you go. Well, I got this. You got the slice. I can't wear this out. Make a necklace out of it. Listen, if I'm telling you right now, if your fucking YouTube or TikTok or one of those things hits a goal that we predetermined, you give me that belt back. You know, I'm going to treat it better than you. Where is it right now?
Starting point is 01:44:10 You giving, you should give me that belt back. If we, yes. Well, I got this. Glad I got this. And again, cruel. He didn't mean it. He doesn't agree. He became a member.
Starting point is 01:44:20 He had a gif that was an animated video of me holding my. Eric, you didn't become a member. Justin Bishop. Thank you. Talking about celeb crushes. Hathaway and Mother Mary. Anna Hathaway is a smoke show. She really is. You don't think so? What? Yeah, she's great. I'm still in my feelings. Oh, you got to get that out of there. Gallagost.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Hello, fellas. Smets, games for life. Nice. Question for both. If you had to listen to one album for a week straight to win a million dollars, what would you choose? Motry Man's Be a Man or Hogan's Hulk Rules. Oh. This is the easiest question. anyone has ever asked me. It's run in front of a bus. No. Do you know I literally have Macho Man's Be a Man Hogan on my playlist for my gym workout?
Starting point is 01:45:08 You do. It plays this morning. I, not this morning at the day off. I literally have put that song in my playlist for my pilot because I want to put it in there somehow. So easily machos be a man. Be a man, Hogan. I listen to it all.
Starting point is 01:45:25 I listen to it all. It's a song where he's talking shit on like Triple H and stuff? No, no, no. That was when he was crazy. He's like, he's talking about how his, his, his, uh, Hogan's movies are, are trash and he found himself a lead role in Spider-Man or something to do it. It's pretty great. Andreas is one that actually sent me a text and he went through last week's gauntlet.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Yeah, you should do gauntlet on celebrity crushes, although when you just can't, you just can't, I know who would be the end, but you just can't put one in there. You just can't put one in there. Yeah, she'd be gone. Yeah, you can't play her up. She can't be in there. Yeah, she can't be in there. Yeah, she'd beat everybody.
Starting point is 01:46:02 All right, Gallagost. I'm excited for JJ to play Maxima. J.J. Abrams to play Maxima. Wait, I'm excited for J.J. Abrams to play Maximum. Maybe J.J. Abrams, meaning. And sad that A. G. Arsona is moving, but I think he mixed. I think he mixed this around. I'm excited for J.J.A.
Starting point is 01:46:19 I think he's, um. Yeah. How did that happen? Yeah, I think maybe it's going to think that was the joke. I would love to see JJ Abrams play, Maximil. Yeah, yeah. Get some w's in the chats for that. Jaylon Turner, Agon's conquest will be epic, seeing Westrose on a big screen.
Starting point is 01:46:37 I'm with you. Can't wait to, and so glad that we have these other series as well to keep us in their world. Been loving the reactions crazy that GOT is ending soon. We need a sequel series. Yeah, I mean, look, we're going to be doing this thing where, like, we're going to be in that world further because we're doing House of the Dragon. And so tomorrow, or not tomorrow, today Sam's coming in. I think we're going to finish up the series.
Starting point is 01:47:01 No, we're going to get close to it. We're at least do episodes three, four, and five. And I think we'll finish up six tomorrow. And then I think we're going to do the Batman because. Oh, so what's the story behind that? Someone said you're going to go back to it. Do you start it or something? Yes.
Starting point is 01:47:15 So here's what happened with that. We were, the whole reason we got into Game of Thrones in the first place is because we were doing the bat. man and we were five minutes into the movie and we was a storm going on and it knocked out everything in my in my studio and it knocked everything and then I was like oh shit and like we lost the file so I'm like oh no so I said you know what we lost the five because it it messed it just like it it ruined at all right you what were you five minutes and I'm like okay so I said we can try it again but if we get farther along it happens again I go I want to try something and so
Starting point is 01:47:48 I throw up Game of Thrones season one episode one and I was like if it makes through, then we'll watch the series. If not, then whatever. And we just won't do any videos today. And we made it through and it did very well. I mean, it's almost an 80,000 views now that episode. And then she was into it and I was like, let's just do that. So we committed to Game of Thrones. And I figured it would be kind of, you know, poetic to finish the whole thing with the Batman, you know, because we were supposed to start. Yeah, so flip it around. And so we'll do the Batman. And then we'll probably go to House the Dragon because the new season's coming up. Have you gotten to the finale of Game of Thrones yet?
Starting point is 01:48:24 Like, what are your thoughts on the final season? Did you like it? Are you going to start to do a Winston thing where you're not really listening when we're having a conversation? I'm asking you about the finale, the last thing. I just said that. The finale, the final episode about how Danny is treated. Okay, I'm going to move on now. Okay, move on.
Starting point is 01:48:45 Let's see. We are, let's see, new member, new member, new member. Talking about a celebrity crush as we did that. Thank you to Andre's. Next one, Andres. We did that one. We did. Valyn Turner.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Oh, yeah, that's one we just did. Sorry, I'm trying to find where exactly where we are. Here, Darth Vader's burnt asshole. Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow comic has big Gardens of Galaxy vibes in aesthetic and just space-faring Star Warsy vibe. It's a story that separates itself, at least in the comics. That's what people say. That's what people say.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Well, I wonder, yeah, they were saying that they should even sneak in a cameo with what's his name in it? with Star Lord, like even just sneak him in, like just Chris Pratt, like in the background. Piss people off, probably. I'll, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, this is going to piss you off. If we get to 500 super chats today,
Starting point is 01:49:36 I'll send you the belt over the weekend. Bro, first of all, okay, I have my work slack. I got to work slack. Sometimes I have to check it. I'm just briefly over. I'm sorry if I missed one sentence from what you said about the Lord of the Ring,
Starting point is 01:49:53 whatever fucking Game of Thrones. you know that I have to have my eyes a little bit on my slack just make sure that everything with work is cool. I miss one sentence and now 500. 500. No one's ever done 500 unless we have a five-hour stream. That's true. No one's ever done 500 in that.
Starting point is 01:50:10 You're happy with that one, aren't you? You're very much so. So, yeah, look, I've heard nothing but good things about the story. And if they capitalize on the story, I don't think there's anybody that wants to come out of that movie going, boy was I wrong about that that was great that's what I want to see um popcorn bandit wednesdays are now my favorite days that's what Kevin's been looking for the Smith are awesome hope you try them on the other host someday too Kevin's been pitching that it's just a
Starting point is 01:50:40 matter of trying to make it work and having it and finding the time to to do it yeah I have I have games like literally like set up for each of them like because I try to you know tailor made People's likes and, you know. Definitely. Okay, moving for again. Right now, we are at 44. Pretty damn good. Only, uh, only,
Starting point is 01:51:01 only 466 to go. That's it. Gallagos, serious question. What dark horse movies are your most anticipated for 2026? For me, it's absolutely Resident Evil and Clayface as a horror guy. So, you know, Resident Evil is up there for me, for sure, because of him, of the director, you know, it's, it's, it's, I wouldn't have given a shit about it had not been, but so they're up there, but I would say, I guess, does that movie, uh, Digger, does that
Starting point is 01:51:32 count? Because Digger to me is a movie I'm really looking forward to. Yeah, um, I'm, playface is going to be interesting because that's going to be, I want playface to do well, because like you said, if you get it, that movie does well at a low budget, then we're going to have other, they're going to have more, they're going to take more risks when do more low budget stuff and that will get more creative types involved and more creative iterations of movies. Great question. And I would also like to see JJ Abrams as maximum. Just kidding, Andreas.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Railroad. Thank you, Railroad. Jalen Turner, in reference to DC having different tones, what Marvel is doing with Deer Devil and Punisher is top notch. That's true. Having them be able to be themselves while integrating them to a larger role. That's a very good point. I agree 100%.
Starting point is 01:52:12 I think that have you been watching Born again yet? You said you were going to start. Yeah, I haven't. watched uh i didn't get a chance to do mall or born again like they're going to just with alone with the kid haven't been able to do it did you see recent one of mall yeah yeah yeah i'm caught up in both i'm born again though you are i'm i'm actually one ahead um i've watched episode six i'm hearing they's starting to get good right born again i thought born again got good from the beginning but i mean it just keeps getting yeah yeah it's better and better yeah i i think it's
Starting point is 01:52:43 great um how they're going to be in the spider man movie that'll be interesting Let's see, Mike Joyce, to be honest, you should let the crazy comments through. It's fascinating to see what people get so upset about like your lighting and other very minor things. Well, to be fair, the lighting, people didn't get upset. I wasn't, I wasn't, you look great on there, dude. No, there is somebody who didn't like the lighting. And I said, okay, but I'm not changing because I like the lighting. We spent a lot of time on it.
Starting point is 01:53:08 That guy wasn't being a douche. He was just giving his opinion. I don't agree with his opinion, but he wasn't being a douche. Um, no, there's some people who are just being duchess sometimes. That's, that's, that's just, it's, it's, it's like, why, like, why are you getting so upset at the stupidest things? That light is not a good look, right? Lil lighting is not a good look. Clips, I'm of two minds when it comes to Oba.
Starting point is 01:53:27 If he beats Brock, his next move should be winning a world title, preferably beating him beating Roman, uh, two. Yeah. If Obel loses, he should get a rematch after challenging Gunther for being the one to retire Brock. He then beats Gunther and Brock. Interesting. Yeah, but it just like, I just think he's, he's, he's, He hasn't been in the Federation long enough to take a loss and then come right. He did that to broad.
Starting point is 01:53:49 You know, and it's like you got to keep that, that air of invincibility going for a bit. Because even with Goldberg, when he, he had like 300 wins and he lost the shenanigans with like the shocker, but it's still like it fucking derailed everything. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:54:04 I know. Dust Wayne, stupid question because I know you're not a huge gamer, but would you ever do a video game playthru on a channel or game trailer reactions? I think GTA would do some numbers if you wanted to, do it. It's not a stupid question. It's a fantastic question. Yeah. Definitely a question that I've thought of. The problem again is the is the lame answer that I give on a lot of things and that's time. Um, because I would love to have
Starting point is 01:54:27 a setup where I can play the game, do it and have you getting frustrated at games would be so funny. It'd be hilarious. I'm sure. I'm like, but I just, I just a matter of, I just don't have the time to do it right now. And it would probably do the damn, um, it would probably do the biggest numbers that I've had thus far on anything. But video trailers, maybe, video game shows might be fun for you. Are you not paying attention? I am. Are you doing the Winston thing right now?
Starting point is 01:54:54 I heard what you said. You said about trailers. I heard what you said. I can hear both things. I don't ask questions that I've already covered. Can we get your reaction of Oba's Monday promo? I heard it was good. Kevin said it was pretty good.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Well, it was great because like he just, he couldn't get through it. Like, it felt like the days of like the rocket is hide or Austin. And all of a sudden, he would just have to stop and let the crowd just chant their, oh, bo, hoo. Right. I want to see it. By the way, he nailed it. Props to him. He nailed it not only facing down Paul Heyman down the right, right?
Starting point is 01:55:24 But he had the owner of the company right behind him, like with a front row seat, basically triple H is behind him. And to have that pressure of like, here's the guy. I want to see it. I want to see it. Begill. Hey, one, I'm team KH and team Smets all the way. Two, Gunn needs to stop debunking stuff online. I couldn't agree more.
Starting point is 01:55:39 And needs to introduce his Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash. Aquaman Nightwing, who's an A-list for now before anything. Yes. Yeah, dude. He's like, I cannot stand that whole thing of like, oh, we're going to put the obscure characters. You got to stop doing that. It didn't work for Marvel. It's not going to work.
Starting point is 01:55:55 To do it for Clayface on a $20 million movie, sure. Yeah. But you're trying to build out this whole thing. And again, we don't know if that's the case. But if she's Maxima. Yay. Mr. Penguin. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Thanks for a shout out. Yeah, we'll see Comic-Con. maybe they're saving the announcement for Comic-Con. I really hope after all this Coyote v. Acme that it's good. I think Looney Tunes back in action is underrated. Please, because maybe we could finally see that Batgirl movie, too. They would resurrect that. That's never going to happen.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Because this one, they've totally got some money out of it. Batgirl's toast. They'll lose more. To that point, though, I'm glad that movie is going to see the light of day. Jalen Turner, hey, who do you think Iyer gets his orders from? Just saying, watch out for the mouse. Mickey. Mickey house the evil mouse with the hoodie. So good. Tim Sim, hearing that attendance for both WrestleMania and ICE is going to be on average 20K less than last year's at the same venue that holds 60K.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Thoughts on that and where WWE and TKO goes forward after this WrestleMania were only one match is exciting. They took advantage of their loyal audience is what TKO did. They took advantage of it. They said, oh, they'll pay it. They'll pay it. It's like those executives that were talking on the Tower Records thing or whatever, talking about how these idiots will pay anything for the uh or ticket master rather for for these tickets they'll pay anything and that's what they did in the audience and no we won't and so like the you look at russomania ticket prices from 20 30 years ago to now it's a crime like yeah it's a crime like you're raw prices it's it's it so what do you expect i went to 39 and like we went with kaiser craig like i dressed up as macho man that was it's a quite thing um but uh it was like the tickets were like
Starting point is 01:57:37 350 or 400 bucks like and we're like we have pretty good seats like now it's like those are nosebleeds for like 800 900 bucks it's crazy it's great they fell flat on their face with that one stupid and then the whole thing that they did with the PLEs that they've and the same city again there's a term for it called burning the territory out yeah yeah no look shmodeon I'm telling you it's like we did new york too many times and we're like oh the last time we did it didn't sell as many times and um yeah it's too much you got to do new cities Seattle. Mr. Miyagi should have been in that mentor slot. 100% next time.
Starting point is 01:58:08 We'll be in the next one. We'll get him in there. Cornel, Brian. William Kaiser. Over under, final ball shows up for mania and for what? I probably under.
Starting point is 01:58:17 I mean, I don't know what under, but I mean, the chances, I think this is more of like a chances. Percentage-wise, I would say 25% that he shows. I would say less than that.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Because if the rumors are true that there's this internal struggle between Brian Gerertz and rocks people versus triple H's people, maybe the rocks, like, I'll let him, fall flat on his face. I'm not going to go help him. Right. You know what I mean? If there is that internal struggle. But if he does show up, that would actually,
Starting point is 01:58:39 you know, I just feel bad for Cody. Like it's going to be too, I'm not feel bad for a millionaire, but, you know, like two main events were like they didn't, they, they, they put Travis Knight in that mattress. See a, uh, seen a last year at WrestleMania. Like let the guy shine against Orton, you know? Yeah. Um, all right. Next one after that.
Starting point is 01:58:59 Tim Simp. In my opinion, WrestleMania Night 1 is a treat with sloppy buildup where only one match, not Rhodes Resorten could surprise despite the poor buildup. Night 2 is slightly better with Lesnar versus Femmy being the match to watch. That's the one. That's the only one I really want. I disagree. I think that and Tim, thank you. I think Jacob Fattu and Drew Bacintyre are going to put a good show on because it's going to be for the ESPN. He has been two for the first night. Right, right. But I think they're going to put on a show. And I do think underrated is going to be
Starting point is 01:59:27 the Seth Rall. I was at 39. And I met I, I, I, I, I, I was just getting back into wrestling and I was like, I don't know who that like the Gunther, Drew McIntyre, Shamist Triple Threat, one of the best matches they said in the last 10 years at WrestleMania, that was when I decided to go get more beer with Kaiser. So it's like, I regret that to this day.
Starting point is 01:59:46 So never count out, I'm never gonna count out a Goetheur WrestleMania match again. Next one. Damien, how does Maul go to the bathroom these days? The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be unnatural. He has a colostomy bag actually. No, perfect.
Starting point is 02:00:00 It's an intergalactic Stomaversity Glasgow. Joshua Gonzalez calling it now, steak tenor, June 3, $1 billion. I've never wanted to be wrong more than what I'm about to say. I will bet you five steak dinners that there's no world where Dune 3 makes a billion dollars. Is it because of the length? It's too long? It's not, it's not, it's not, I mean, you look at the last movie.
Starting point is 02:00:20 The last movie, what did it do? Like 600 million? Maybe. Yeah. 700? I don't know how much. Let me see. Dune 2.
Starting point is 02:00:28 It has legs, though. Yeah, but it's going up against Doomsday. And they're not, no one's bulk. They're going to really release this the same weekend, you think? Just like a Barbie, Barbyheimer. It's 715, the second one, and it had no competition. There's no world that it makes a billion dollar. Tyler, Fiverr.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Jamie Dornan is surprisingly great choice for Erdogan. That picture, Smet's did was great. And Lee Pace is back. Outside of McKellon, he's probably my favorite casting choice. It's, if he can get the cadence down, it's going to be great. Yeah. And Lee Pace is great. So it's cool that's connecting.
Starting point is 02:01:02 You're going to have connecting tissue, connective tissues from both. And if you're familiar with the appendices, it's going to be a cool story of how they all kind of come cross each other's path. I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it. So I have to wrap pretty soon. So we're going to try to fire this because I'm actually doing an interview with News Nation in about 15 minutes from that. So there's no way we're going to get our 500. Probably not. Nathan Drake.
Starting point is 02:01:25 I could have seen Adriad doing three or four Wonder Woman movies in the future if she had been cash she still might be we don't know maximum be one and done character i feel i agree with you or at least like she shows up in a couple things i can't imagine they'd be stupid enough to cast her in that that'd be so dumb alexander wilson champs are supposed to work all shows flare was the champ and wanted to take time to see his son wrestle and bischoff said no and flare no show to see his son and bischoff punished him for it and ruin their relationship yeah that that's ego nonsense yeah and i'm the boss nonsense there's so many times that vince did that and and and and he's did that and they ruined potential
Starting point is 02:02:01 like really good things like I in Bischoff's defense Bischoff on his 83 weeks podcast has said that he regrets a lot of the things he handled with Flair that way. Yeah that's good I mean good on him Big Bang your pick for DCU Batman I stick with Sklinar Who? Brandon Sklinar
Starting point is 02:02:16 I don't know who that is my my blanket on that Have you watched 1923 1917 1923 No I don't Yeah it's it he's the lead in that He was just in that Sydney Sweeney movie also with the housemaid. I'm catching up on the boys. I think
Starting point is 02:02:33 Anson Eccles would be cool too. He's been rumor. He's been rumor. Yeah. Big Bang. Grogu is future Jedi Grandmaster. I just want to know how they're going to eventually say, did he survive? Did he make it? I don't know. How he gets to, you know, the... Where is he? Where is he in the sequel trilogy?
Starting point is 02:02:50 Badgers fan. Give Smashers his belt back. Too many away. Like 450 away. Gallagos, thank you, Gallagos. You do that all this mean. It's cruel. Tim Sim. Also, bless her heart for what she's about to watch in GOT season eight after the brilliance of the first four seasons. Hope it doesn't deter her from House to the Dragon and Knights of Seven Kingdoms.
Starting point is 02:03:08 I don't think you guys understand this. And I realize this as I'm watching this. It plays differently when you watch them in succession like that. When you're waiting and you're waiting months and year. I mean, I was looking at between seven and anything, it was a year and a half to almost two years between season seven, season eight. it doesn't play it's not that bad it's not that bad right now and she's and she's
Starting point is 02:03:36 watched one and two and she does and she's still as in love as she was and I don't know how she's going to feel about the next the last five and six but we'll see send the belt we'll see a lot left Casey Grant even seen lost J.J. Aven probably didn't think Game of Thrones would be made into
Starting point is 02:03:52 a TV show back then but there is reference to Game of Thrones in every episode of Lost is there really? Is there really? Like the books? Is that true? There's a reference to Game of Thrones and your mic's not plugged in anymore.
Starting point is 02:04:07 There's a reference to every Game of Thrones in every episode a lot. I just recently. That's weird. There's a reference to Game of Thrones. Wow, I didn't know that. Send me. Take into that next.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Yeah, look at that. Big Bang. Star Wars should fast track a large scale trilogy. Apparently they are with the camera. Yeah, they might be doing that already. Yeah. Armada. Agon Conquist. one or three movies you think you start with one
Starting point is 02:04:28 and if it does well you can you can push it forward you're gonna need that plan though like if the conquest happens in one fell swoop I know sure Armada Invincible reactions with Smets He's he have you ever seen it before I only watched the one episode in question that everybody was talking about I would be fresh to it
Starting point is 02:04:45 I love the boys right now I just don't know if you have if you have if you have the time to do it we can try I was thinking about doing Immensible we can try to do it well you want to try to do the first season yeah we can try to do the first season yeah we can try to the first season. Saul, expected a detailed voice note this afternoon, rebooking 1994 to explain why Owen
Starting point is 02:05:01 should have won the title from Lex, the King of the Ring. Maybe so, but who would you rather see as a champion that should have had it? Owen or Mr. Perfect? I don't think. So I'll make sure it's like nine minutes long. That's the commute to get to my daughter's ballet. Conrad, Marvel rivals game trailers, I would love to see. I'm a
Starting point is 02:05:18 gamer. I like games. So maybe we could throw a little game. I have TV time with Roxy. Sean McCabe. Happy Humpty, you beautiful, bassist. Thank you, Thanks, buddy. Johnny Petrieza. TK. I don't care about wrestling simple.
Starting point is 02:05:29 No, it's just, it's just business. It should always be, what? Look at his, look at his icon. Oh, yeah, that's great. The Mickey thing? It's so good. It's so good. No, they don't care.
Starting point is 02:05:39 You're right. Saul, the builds to this mania have been tough. The card's amazing. Punk versus Roman could be legendary. I think they're going to job Oba because they know this few his legs and they want two out of them. Yeah, but it would be a bad move. Really dumb move. Brock could handle losing, and then like you said, you pivot into his journey into his retirement.
Starting point is 02:05:55 it was a retirement match you're going to piss off a lot of people if you do that too Nathan drake where's the smet's audition that's oh yeah that's what we have to do i talked about it we have to set a goal next time you're on to hit a particular goal um then you'll release your audition that we can show the audition yeah i was looking for it it's not on this computer i know i know it is no i have i know it exists because i made a screen recording of it exists you mean my fucking belt back you could watch that i'm okay with that yoshimitsu regarding keith and gallum our character's name is marigle sounds a lot like smigle my best guess is that she's Ghalm's grandmother and flashbacks.
Starting point is 02:06:27 Oh, that's interesting. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, well, yeah, I mean, smegel, meaning like, I'm thinking like her grandmother would look like Gullam, but no, it would be smegal. No, no, it would be smegel. Anyway, I look, we did it today. Good show overall. Thanks for the 500 super chats.
Starting point is 02:06:41 Christian, I'll send you my address. The address, and I'll send it to myself. So thank you guys so much for being here. Smets. Tell them about your channel. Where can they find me in my messy room right now. You can find me at Kev Smetz on X. You could find me on my Stomaversity channel at Stomavisity.
Starting point is 02:07:00 I'm going to get one of those link tree things going. So I just have to put that on the screen because I don't have the same name for everything. So don't worry about it right now. Love you guys. Thanks for making Wednesdays what they are. We're going to keep rocking and rolling Wednesdays. That's about it right now. So I'm still a little thrown off by never having that belt again.
Starting point is 02:07:17 Oh, sorry. Christian, you're going to point out the goofs in season eight to Sam, like a Starbucks coffee cup on the table? Yes, absolutely when it's over. I just didn't want her to be. We had a short about that. Remember what? Davos talks about it. It did decent.
Starting point is 02:07:31 All right. Thank you guys. Make sure you check out Kevin, please, on his channel. He's been so instrumental to his channel. Him, Lou, PLD, everybody who's been trying to help us get to next level. We're trying to get the 300,000 subscribers by the end of the year. I think we can do it. So if you haven't subscribed, please, another thing that I've been talking about,
Starting point is 02:07:48 we're about to launch the campaign for the show. and before we do, we're trying to get our social media numbers up. If you had not following me on Instagram, please do it. We're trying to get to 100,000 over there. And same with TikTok. It's the Christian Harlow for there. The rest is just my name. So if you are on social media, please follow me on all platforms.
Starting point is 02:08:07 All right. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate it. We'll see on the flip side. Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere. Podcasts are found. Thank you to Kevin Smets. We'll see you guys on the flip side.
Starting point is 02:08:16 We'll back here tomorrow with Steph Subrah. All right. Bye.

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