The Kristian Harloff Show - Was Jo Koy really THAT bad of a host at the Golden Globes?
Episode Date: January 9, 2024Join Patreon: http://www.TheBigThingShow The Golden Globes have concluded and some say it is the best show they have done in years. HOWEVER many are also saying that the events host, stand up comedi...an Jo Koy, might have been its worst host to date. The stand up comic took shots at Barbie, Deniro and Taylor Swift which Swifties DID NOT LIKE. Social media and the trades said Koy bombed. Was it that bad? Will it affect this career? Speaking of the globes, how did we feel about the winners and will this be an indication of the next few award shows? In other news Heat 2 could be shot on film, Coleman Domingo addresses the Kang rumors and is Dune 3 Denis Villeneuve's next movie? This and more on today's LIVe Big Thing with Kristian Harloff and John Rocha. #marvel #mcu #goldenglobes #taylorswift #jokoy #controversy OUR SPONSORS: TRADE: Right now, Trade is offering a free bag with select subscription plans when you visit http://www.drinktrade.com/bigthing. FUM: Head to http://www.TryFum.com/BIGTHING and use my code "BIGTHING" for an additional 10% off plus BOGO Cores until Jan 14th to help make starting The Good Habit that much easier. NUTRAFOL: http://www.Nutrafol.com/ men, and enter promo code BIGTHING AG1: Try AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase exclusively at http://www.drinkAG1.com/BIGTHING.
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How's it going, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. It's Monday. I hope you had a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful weekend. We're live. And man, the Golden Globes were live last night. And I don't usually watch the award shows anymore. I find them kind of lame for the most part. I will say that the majority of the show kind of moved like this, which I like, there were some presenters that were just like, what are you doing? And there's one guy that was like chewing gum. What are you doing? You
chewing gum while you're presenting an award show a little um but the talk really was of comedian joe joe
who was hired i guess two three weeks ago and that was one of his main excuses when in his monologue
um and a lot of people saying that that was one of the worst hosting jobs i've ever seen
we're going to talk about whether or not we think it was uh he went after taylor swift
that didn't seem too smart because all of the Swifties are coming after them left and right.
So we'll discuss that.
And we'll see, was it really that bad as everyone else was saying?
And then the awards went down.
And usually, you know, some people like people, shit on the Golden Globes and rightfully so, I think a lot of times.
But they are an indication of what's going to happen in the Academy Awards.
And is that there were some, some.
prizes some okay we thought that could happen but it didn't so we'll discuss if that leads into
what potential the upcoming award shows if they're going to see the kind of repeat performances or
there can be some other wins and other places before we get to the academy awards uh outside of the
award stuff michael man was talking about heat two and i love heat's one of my favorite movies of
all time and heat too apparently which i still have the book i got to read that book before the movie and
he's talking about shooting it on film.
The last couple of movies he's done has been digital.
I think since Ali, maybe, it's been digital.
So we'll talk about whether we think it's a good move, bad move, doesn't matter, whatever.
And then speaking of directors, man, you got
Denisnev Elanou, who might be one of the best directors of not,
Nolan, I still think Nolan right now is the best, but Denisville
New is up there.
And he is talking about potentially,
finished the script for dune three so is that the one he's going to definitely direct and then lastly
colman domingo has been all over the place recently with uh as far as press goes and he's he's hot
ticket right now well he's been rumored to play kang taking over for jonathan majors he addresses
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Why?
What up, Johnny?
How are you doing?
Good, man.
What about a night version called The Big Thang?
Is that not, is that too far?
Is that too far?
Okay, fine.
I'm going to let you go now.
All right.
So, that's good to, it's good to throw a,
let's do that not on the air, though.
It's not on the air.
So, look, I watched this show last night.
It was the first award show that I watched a bit.
I will say it moved, and I don't know if it just moved because I was fast forwarding,
but I was, I didn't watch, I don't watch speeches anymore.
I will not do it.
The only speech I really watched was Stephen Young.
I watched Stephen Young, and I thought he had a great, great speech.
I loved his speech.
It was, here I go, I'm up there.
Thank you so much.
I have a message about, you know, about feeling accepted, loved.
I love the people here.
you to my my my loved ones thank you to people who help me i'm out it's it that should be every
speech every speech you want to give me a whole political diatribe do it on twitter
don't do it at a new award show someone that's not why i'm here um and it was you can you
so someone who did that well but was also part of everything that the performance was and
didn't make me feel like it was like all my outside was lily gladstone i did watch her as well she
great speech also yeah but there wasn't a lot of the everything i mean there were a few who's the
guy chewing gum yeah i don't know that i don't know why that person was chewing gum what is what are you
doing you're you're so cool you can't spit your gum up if you're that cool take one of your minions
and stick your gum in their hand right and then say i'll be right back hold my gum yeah what
you doing chewing gum for two performances or awards is horrible yeah made no sense yeah we'll get into
the winners and all that stuff but
the big talk of the town was Joe Coy.
What did you think of his performance?
Listen, you know me and you know how I feel about representation.
So it was nice to have a Filipino host.
And I like Joe Coy.
I've liked his specials.
I think he's a funny guy.
You know, it's very public Chelsea Handler relationship and then breakup and whatever.
But Joe has been successful on Netflix.
And lo the Filipino community like him.
I think Easter Sunday was that film that he had.
Oh, right.
Which was fine.
Yeah, it was a middling comedy.
But like, so I was cheering for the guy.
But then when it started, dude, like, you have to be honest.
And as an analyst, no matter how much I like representation,
I also got to be honest and judge the product.
And when you judge the product, it is, it was wanting on so many levels.
The jokes fell flat.
You could tell he was nervous.
And I think he did the cardinal mistake.
You're not Ricky Jervais.
People don't know you.
Right.
So walk out.
out there, introduce yourself, talk about
where you're from, talk about what and on, which he did
later, but he should have done it to start off the show,
then start leaning
into certain people and making certain jokes.
Throwing your writers under the bus?
What the fuck was the logic in that?
It was so amateur.
It reminded me, and he's not.
No, he's not. I'll preface
by saying he's a very, I know a lot.
I've never, I never met
Joe. I know a lot of people who know
him and speak the world of him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was his nice guy.
Everyone.
from friends that are very close with him,
but I've never met him.
But what I will say is,
and I've seen stuff of his that's very funny,
the way that he conducted that last night,
if I didn't know who he was,
I'd be like, that was amateur hour.
Because like what he did, as you said,
like it reminds me of like when you're,
what a thing that always makes me like cringe
when I'm watching, you know,
newer comedians and they don't know better.
It's like if they tell a joke and they go,
that's the joke, guys.
Why isn't it all happen?
It's like,
what do you do?
You're a professional comedian and you're like, oh, what do you expect?
They got this gig three weeks ago.
Like, I didn't write that one.
Some other guy did.
It's like, dude, what are you doing?
It's like, just own it.
And like you said, come out there and say, look, guys, I'm here and that.
Like, don't be abrasive because you haven't, you haven't earned that in that circle yet.
Right.
You haven't earned that.
Yeah.
You've earned it.
You've earned it at your, to your fans that come to pay you to see you at a big event.
Yeah.
Like, they know you.
So they're going to pay you to do that.
And there are certain times, like, they're there to see you.
You can't assume that people like, oh, Joe Coy is hosting.
A lot of people in that room, a lot of people watching the TV.
Like, who the fuck is that?
Yeah.
I never met him in circles.
That's where Ricky got away with it because Ricky had done shows.
The office was a massive hit.
And he was a stand-up.
So when he walked out there, that's a different approach.
And I think Joe just absolutely shit to bed.
And some of these jokes he decided to tell.
You're right, Christian.
The familiarity that he did.
not have with these subjects of the joke made it look mean as opposed to like a roast right it
was spirited rather than a roast it did and i think a massive mistake on this point massive mistake
especially if you're not friendly with these people are ready and you know what you say to them because
if you're brand new to it because this could have been something massive for him yeah yeah massive for him
and what and the funny thing is was the tailored swift joke really bad not really no i don't
It wasn't really, but she did not like it.
No.
She did not like it.
And that was it.
That's all she wrote.
So when she's doing that sip of the drink going, no, you're done.
Now, if she would have smiled, if she would have laughed, he probably would have gotten less of the shit from the Swifties because she would have been like, oh, I'm in on it.
I'm in on.
That's funny.
That's funny.
But she's not something she wanted to even be brought up.
And he did not earn that.
You know, Kimmel does it.
He does it in a different way.
He brings it up, but you know what?
You know, I'll tell you, after watching the entire thing, you know who should have hosted that?
After watching what I saw last night?
Who?
Jim Gaffigan?
Oh, Gaffigan would have been great.
He was there, I think, last night.
Yeah, he did it.
He did it.
He came out and did it.
And what did he said?
He said, he made some kind of insult, but then under his breath, he goes, yeah, I meant that.
And the way that he did it, he's just, he was so good.
And he's just so seasoned.
Jim Gaffigan would have been incredible to do it.
And I think that that's, what's that?
It's a great suggestion.
Yeah, I like that.
He would have been great.
And the funniest bit of the night was, was Kristen Wig and Farrow.
Yeah.
That stupid dancing was incredible.
Incredible.
Lightened up the moon.
You just saw, like, the difference in tone.
People were just like, yeah, this isn't working, Joe.
Yeah.
Move it.
Like he, and the thing he did with, with Gosling didn't work.
Nope.
The De Niro thing.
I forgot, I thought, I knew that Pacino had a kid at 80.
I forgot that De Niro even had one.
Yeah.
They were competition friends.
ever with each other. Right. Having babies at 80. And De Niro laughed at that one though. Yeah, he laughed at that one, though. But it was,
it just wasn't great. And he was, he was, he was more abrasive. Yeah. He was more abrasive than I think he should have been in a
situation like that. And by the way, who was, who was nominating the stand-up comedy specials? Oh, yeah. That's been a
thing since they announced those nominations. Nobody believes that any of these people actually saw these specials.
And nobody believes these are the actual best stand-up specials of the year.
I can tell you that they're not.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
I can tell you that they're not.
I was looking at a few of them that I had seen over the course of the year that I was like,
that were way funnier than like, what?
They didn't get any recognition or maybe we found of some of the clips that I saw also,
but some of the stuff, I'm like, come on, who's nominating this?
It's like, so.
And then the other weird award one was that the box office achievement one,
How I was confused by that one.
Don't you win if you got the most amount of money, Kristen?
So why are there even nominees?
And why were they surprised?
Why would Greta and like, oh my God, we won?
We made money?
We made money?
What?
I didn't know that.
I had no idea we made money.
And they didn't explain how that worked.
And then it was like, because there were smaller movies in that list that was probably made for less money that made a profit.
Right.
but do does then the people who are on the committee then say okay out of these big blockbuster movies
this this you know box off for achievement because because uh mission impossible was in there that movie lost
money yeah yeah even it didn't so but is it box office or or cinematic achievement like how does that
work how do they they go put that one in there yeah it's a very nebulous category that's for sure
might as well just put the amy schumer special in there because we're throwing around you know just
anybody can get nominated for whatever it it.
So there were things inside of it that I was like,
and I thought the Ray Romano thing was funny.
I like Ray, yeah.
I think he did with Carrie Russell was funny.
But, and I don't know.
I just, to me, the presentations were moving quicker.
And I think also because for the most,
I'd seen, I think almost every single movie that was nominated,
most so watching them and seeing like there,
were there any big surprises for you?
There's one for me.
Uh, not really. Um, maybe Kieran winning for succession. Oh, oh, right. Because I thought, you know, the other nominees were just as strong. And I thought that I always see that show as an ensemble show. So I don't necessarily always think like one should stand out above the other. Do you know what I'm saying? So that was a little bit of a surprise for me. But I thought his speech was hilarious and telling Pedro to go suck it. I thought was funny as hell. I didn't watch his speech. Okay. Yeah, it was very funny. But, you know, there wasn't a lot of big surprises. I, you know,
I see critics all over the place saying it's Bradley Cooper, Bradley Cooper.
To me, it's always been Geomati and Killian.
Those are the top two for best actors.
So for me, I found no surprises in that.
Lily winning, no surprise.
I was a little shocked by that one.
It wasn't the main one that I was shocked that,
but I was a little shocked that because I told my wife,
because we were both like, well, Carrie Mulligan's going to win this.
And then she hasn't seen all of Killers of the Flower Moon yet.
And she's like, was she really good?
And I said, before the Carrie Mulligan performance,
I was like, Lily's got it in the back.
Yes, I agree.
So I could see them trading awards back and forth.
Yeah.
The different, different ones.
I could see Carrie Mulligan winning the Oscar.
I could see her Lily Gladstone winning the Oscar.
So I could see that going back and forth.
The one that shocked me was animated.
I thought, I thought it was Spider-Man.
I thought it was going to be Spider-Man.
I thought that, especially for the Golden Globes, I thought it was going to be Spider-Man.
Right.
I didn't, I also haven't seen the boy in the hair on.
Yeah.
I just know that it's people who've been like, yes, it's good.
It's good.
It's good.
But people, everybody had talked to raves about, you know, Spider-Man.
Yeah, yeah.
I wasn't surprised by that because it's an international body that votes.
And Miyazaki probably appeals more to that angle.
Yeah.
I think it's going to be Spider-Vers at the Oscars, no doubt,
because that's more of American or domestic voters.
So I wasn't surprised by when, and I like winning there,
and I thought it was a really good film.
for a, you know, for a Miyazaki film, which is always great start, a little bit weird in the middle,
and then a good ending.
And I thought this one is one of his best.
And so I wasn't surprised that it won.
Fair enough.
Going back to Joe Coy real quick, because I will say, I thought Joe Coy was better than
Gerard Carmichael.
Oh, Jared, yeah, Jared would way out of his league for that one.
Because Joe has played stadiums, man.
Joe knows how to play intimate rooms and stadiums, and whereas Jared is still kind of,
of in that middle area. Well, Jared,
Jared was actually really good and not poor things, by the way.
But Jared was more so where ours draw, isn't it?
Oh, sorry, Jared. Yeah, draw, sorry.
John Michael, he was, I thought not, the difference was he wasn't really controversial.
And he said some things that really mattered.
And he had some good points socially of the stuff that he was doing.
And he didn't really offend anybody.
So I don't think people were going to go on after him.
But as far as presentation, at least like I felt he was.
way more entertaining than Jared.
George Carmichael.
I thought that Gerard Carmichael was boring.
But I thought Joe Coy, even though, and he was just, it was a lot.
And he was just kind of like, like this.
But you weren't bored by him.
You're just like, whoa, dude, slow to stop staying that.
But I don't know.
Either of it, but the question with Joe Coy, do you think that Joe Coy is going,
it's going to hurt his career at all?
I don't think it's going to hurt his career with his base, right?
Like he, he's,
people know what kind of comedy thing in it from,
and I saw a lot of, uh,
Filipinos today like defending him and saying,
first through the door doesn't matter representation.
So there,
his base is going to be fine and he's going to make his money.
But as you said earlier,
this was a chance for him to leap into mainstream audiences,
eyes and possibly secure himself like bigger roles and bigger films,
both dramatic and,
and, uh,
comedy because I think the guy can do drama as well.
but it kind of fell apart now.
And so he's going to have to take the hit on this for a little bit
and then eventually work his way back up again into those eyes.
But yeah, I thought he blew a big opportunity here to get even more successful.
Yeah, he's, you know, it's like it's people forget real quick.
You know, he's, I think like as you said, I think when it comes to standup comedy,
it's the people, his fans aren't going to.
No.
It wasn't like, oh, I used to be a fan of him gone.
It was more like, who is this guy?
I'm not going to be a fan.
They won't win any new fans, but I don't think he lost any old ones.
No, exactly.
Is what it turns out to be.
Some of those jokes did land.
They just didn't all land.
Right.
I don't, I just, as you mentioned, I just really couldn't believe and didn't like that when a joke didn't land.
He's like, oh, that was that, that guy wrote that.
First of all, why are you telling people that you're not, and what about the ones that are funny?
Yeah.
Now we go, did he write that?
Or maybe he didn't even write that.
We say, no, the ones you're laughing at is the ones I wrote.
Don't do that.
I know.
He's doing.
Slightly pushly, isn't it?
It's not slightly.
It's not, and it's so surprising because he's like, so seasoned.
He's not like, he's not a guy that they found at like an open mic or like he's been doing comedy for two years.
He's, this is a professional guy who sells out rooms and does Netflix specials.
Like, yeah.
It was very bizarre.
I'm, let me see this.
Are you, are you always, are you like, don't you think it's weird that people don't want to host these things?
I would kill the Holmberglobes.
Oscars. I would love to do it. I don't understand people who are. Yeah, tell me why you think it
wouldn't be a great thankless job. It's an absolute thankless job. It's like the first,
the first thing I will say is, yeah, the other thing that I was like, come on, don't say that.
You got hired at the end of December. Yeah. If it's your biggest gig ever, that's, that's three weeks to
write jokes. And that's three weeks to lock yourself in. And so you even said, I didn't watch any
these movies and I locked myself in and watch it. You have three weeks now, whatever it is to,
it should be the only thing that you're working on. You should not take any more gig. You should do
nothing. You should just write the best monologue. Like that monologue did not seem like it was
worked on at all. It seemed like, okay, yeah, I'll give you, give me your jokes. I'll say that. Sure.
No, come out with the best stuff possible. If this is your, this is your, Ricky Jervas,
how is he care? He didn't even show up to win last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't care.
Like, Ricky Jabeis doesn't care when he's doing this because he's doing it because,
okay, you know you're hiring me to do this, right?
Yeah, you know what you're going to get.
You know what you're going to get.
And then, yeah, that's why he's the best at it.
And I was hoping that he was going to come back to do it.
I just sort of scared the hell about what he's going to say.
But he didn't work on it.
He didn't do it.
But no, I think that the Oscars, all these jobs are a thankless job because because of the induction
of social media, to be completely honest with you, like, you can't win.
comedians can't be comedians in general these days a lot of times because people are going to get offended by everything.
They really do.
There's certain things you can't say that people say you can't say.
And it's like when you walk into the comedy,
dude, if there was a freaking camera on in the comedy store when I was there back in, you know, from like 2002 to like 2007, 2008,
the whole club would have been shut down.
The stuff that was going on there.
I saw a guy blown on stage.
like oh wow we talked about it but it's like crazy stuff i have that one maybe you do get canceled for
but the other stuff like as far as like but there are things going on there are things that people
would say and comedians would test things out yeah and try stuff and it's like it yeah today
you get out there and then you just get nailed on twitter no matter what because like you don't think
the second just the stuff that's going on with with erin rogers yeah yeah him's first thing
people they're people going to nail him for on twitter he's going to be all these different things
and he's going to get hit from one side of the aisle and and then someone and then you know someone else
you just can't you can't win you just can't win those jobs and it's like if you're a new comedian
though and you can really work like this is what I'm talking about Joe Coe it's not a new comedian
but he's he's not a spotlight comedian right right and if he if you had that opportunity like
he did you should be it you should treat it like it's a it's a hour special
and that you are coming and firing.
And I also think the mistake he made less,
because I've seen a lot of Joe Coy specials,
he's not a naturally mean guy.
Jervase is.
So it makes sense for Jervase to go down the roast side of comedy.
Joe didn't.
So for him choosing to take these shots,
I thought was a massive mistake.
He could have come off as just an overall funny guy
who loves movies and loves.
And yes, he had gotten killed for being soft or whatever,
but you wouldn't have lost hands.
Maybe.
Oh, yeah, maybe not.
I don't know.
Maybe not.
Maybe elevated and people like, oh, I want to work with this guy or I want this guy.
I'm my thing.
And sometimes that's the smarter move.
You don't always have to tear it down.
And so I think that's where it felt unnatural watching him do that.
And I was like, oh.
It's like you said last week, dude, just show me through your product.
You don't have to tell me anything else.
Just show me through your product.
Be funny.
Do what you're going to do.
Let me judge it on the actual jokes itself.
And don't throw your writers under the bus.
Don't say I got this job last week.
Don't do it.
Just write funny stuff and do it if you, if you have it in you, which he does.
Yeah.
You're right.
He should have come out with that likable stuff that he does.
Throne some of his, like his brand wasn't in there.
No.
His brand, he should have done more stuff where he like, he, like, there's certain things that he does.
He should have thrown some of his core into that performance and show like for people that
what got him there.
The stuff he did last night did not get him there.
Right.
show me the stuff that got you there.
And that's what would have worked with the audience to go, oh, who the hell is this guy?
Right.
But, you know, nonetheless, what did you guys think, man?
Did you guys think it was terrible?
Did you think that it's over?
Do you ever, you ever watch Joe Coy again?
Should he ever host anything?
Make sure you guys comment, let us know for sure.
And as far as the awards go, Oppenheimer will probably win best pitcher, I think.
And for the Oscars, I think it should have.
I'm glad that both Downey and.
And although I was secretly hoping Ruffalo, but I also gave a, gave a, a fist pump when that went downy won.
And, you know, I used to, you know, his, his wife was my, was my boss for many years.
Oh, really?
I hear she's fantastic.
She's awesome, Susan.
And she's coming to comedy shows all the time.
And she has not aged a bit.
I mean, I worked for 20 years ago.
She looks exactly the same.
She looks as beautiful.
Yeah, I agree.
She's a beautiful one.
And she's a very, she's a very, yeah, she was, she was always, uh, she was always, uh,
pretty great to me. So, yeah, it was good to see him win. And there were, I mean, yeah, there
weren't a lot of people. My, that's like, again, I didn't see Boy in the Heron. So I didn't,
I didn't know it well enough to say, oh, it shouldn't have won. I hate when people do that.
Like, my mother-in-law is the queen of it. Like, she'll, that movie shouldn't have one. Why, did you
see it? No. How do you know? You just described half of Twitter, how do you know? How do you know? Like,
when like because my what my wife does not do that but she asked questions right like so like when
anatomy of a fall won a couple different things i think it was maybe i can't remember what it was
the screenplay i don't remember whatever it was yeah and and she goes yeah was screenplay she goes
really she was that good i said it was awesome yeah i could see it i could see it wouldn't and um
so anyway yeah i think this going to be a lot i'm very curious what's going to happen especially
as you sag awards you know the critics choice award
and then obviously the Oscars.
I am curious to how this is going to play
because I have seen the majority of these movies.
I wonder how much of the general audience has seen a lot of them,
if any, you know?
Yeah.
This is why I think of Anatomy of Fall has a hard road ahead of itself to...
It'll win foreign language film.
Probably, yeah, but a lot of people, and you include it, I'm sure,
Sandra Huller's performance is incredible.
She's great.
It's a real tough year when you look at actresses.
For sure.
You talk about Carrie.
like carrie's i have come around on carry like i it was lily and then i saw carrie and i'm like you know what
because scorsesey drugs lily for the last hour of that movie to me that's where carrie mulligan
wins by by by by a hair because i think you have her through the entire film doing incredible
amount of stuff and i think scorsese kind of hurts lily a little bit by drugging her up in that movie and i
Right.
And they kind of sidelines her a little bit at the end.
Yeah, it's true.
I'm just performing the drugging up well, but it removes her having confrontations with.
I get it.
And I think the pushback, not pushback, but the, I guess an argument.
Yeah, I'm an argument to.
You like, well, and Hathaway won for a song.
That was the best supporting.
The best supporting.
But she's still one for a song over over performances that were way longer that did more.
And Lily Gladstone certainly did more than just a song.
100%.
She did a lot.
And like I said, she was my pick before Carrie Mulligan.
And I didn't think anything was going to edit.
It was Carrie.
Oh, yeah, and Emma and Emma Stone, which I thought was pretty good.
It was great.
But my wife was also, as I said, I go, look what's nominated for comedy?
And then May December pops up.
She's like, what?
Even the clip that they showed for May December comedy.
And he's like, yeah, he was, he was, she seduced him when he was 12.
And he's like, yeah, I was depressed for three years.
And it's like, how is that a comedy?
What are you doing?
How's that a comedy?
I was like The Martian way more of a comedy than that.
Speaker of a comedy store.
No, yeah, it just made no sense at all.
But I did like DeBecke winning over Merrill Street.
I will say I like that because I liked her as.
Oh, for Diana.
Everyone says she was getting my dad called me and said,
you see this?
It's a season of Crown.
Really?
I played Diana was amazing.
Yeah, DeBecke.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, yeah.
So here, she's really, really good.
All right.
So everybody, give me your thoughts.
Let me know.
I do see as I see this questions coming in,
the way it works is we will see all the super chats come in.
And at the end of all of our topics,
we will go through each and every one of them.
So send them in now and I will collect them towards the end of the show
and make sure that we talk about them.
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and I want to get to the, where is it?
The one that I wanted to talk to you most about, John,
outside of it was this Dune 3 thing, right?
Yeah.
Let me, oh, did I not, am I, I, I didn't add my pictures, John.
I didn't have my pictures.
Oh, no.
I'll add my pictures, hold on.
But we can, we'll talk about the story itself,
and it's, there was a lot of rumors about this, you know,
like whether or not he was going to even do Dune 3.
Yeah.
Like, no one, no one knew whether he's going to do it,
because they said he was working.
on it, but he wasn't sure if it was going to go.
And now there's some new, there's some new stuff.
There's some new stuff that they're, that they're talking about.
And here is the actual story itself.
Okay.
So this is coming from dark horizons, dark horizons, and basically what they say here is
that Dunevae messiah could be the Neville News next film.
Wow.
Yeah.
Did you not hear that?
Yeah.
That's incredible to hear that.
man. Okay, so this is Garth Franklin over at Dark Horizons. He say they say, short of Dune Part 2 flopping,
it appears more and more likely that Denis Villeneu will close out Dune as a trilogy with an adaptation
of Dune Messiah to serve as the third film. At last report a month ago, Villeneuve confirmed at a
press conference in South Korea that he's almost finished writing the script. The screenplay is
almost finished, but is not finished. It will take a little time. He also added that he wasn't sure
he also added he wasn't sure when he would tackle the film and was looking at other projects outside of this franchise to try.
He's been linked with both a Cleopatra political thriller style film and an Eric Rothpen sci-fi film, remember to be a round review with Rama adaptation.
Cut to this week and speaking with Cinnit 21, Villeneu says he doesn't really know what is next for him and very well could end up being Dune Messiah.
He says, I'm working on four different screenplays. I know that Dune Messiah will be one of them.
I don't know if it will be the next or the second next.
My job was to try to keep the spirit of Frank Herbert alive as much as possible.
The whole meaning of Dune becomes clear with Dune Messiah.
It's a much slimmer book than its predecessor.
It's 256 pages compared to Dune's 896.
Messiah takes place over a decade after the events of the first book and serves as a code to the original novel.
And Villeneuve's also been linked to an HBO limited series starring Jake Gyllenhaal,
who he's worked with on enemy and prisoners.
Dune Part 2 opens on March 1st.
Okay.
So, John, you hear this news?
You had not heard this news yet.
No, no.
What are your thoughts on us?
Maybe this is Denny ascending or moving into the James Cameron phase of his career here.
You know, James is doing multiple Avatar movies now,
and we see that Deney may be drawn to this Dune thing over and over and over again,
And he's got other projects, as you mentioned, dancing around.
But clearly, there is something about this story that he wants to be the on-screen author of these stories, of the Dune stories.
And I liked the first movie, looking forward to the second movie.
And if that one really sticks the landing and gets Oscars or whatever, then, of course, you're even more excited to see a third installment.
So clearly this is something that is motivating him as an artist, motivating him as a director.
and there's more story he wants to tell here that inspires him.
And so that makes me excited because I think he's one of the best directors working today, man.
I do too.
And he's great.
And I can't wait to see June 2.
And I can't wait to see it in the theater because I told you,
I didn't need to see the first one in the theater.
So I'm very excited to see this movie.
I cannot wait.
And yeah, I mean, like they said, outside of even, I mean, I cannot imagine from what I've heard,
I've heard inside stuff about the second one.
I heard some of that.
And just that it's phenomenal.
Okay.
That it's absolutely phenomenal.
And it wasn't, you know, just someone trying to beef up the movie.
It was like someone who was just like, look, the first one's really good.
But this one is just like out of control.
And I go, yeah, that's exactly what I want you to tell me.
But I want, but it's someone who doesn't bullshit.
So I'm like, okay.
I mean, I already felt that.
But it was nice to hear it even more so.
So if this movie delivers, why wouldn't you want to see a third one?
and I don't want to go like, oh, yeah, we're going to do a third one,
but we're not going to do it with him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He is the reason, there is obviously so much great content.
It's one of the things that inspired Star Wars,
and it's got great lore, obviously, but there are certain directors
that will take a project and elevate it, right?
And that's what he did.
And so why would I want to see anyone else but him right now do the,
I didn't like the, I didn't like the Lynch version.
I didn't like it at all.
I remember because of it, I almost, even when this was going to come out, I'm like, I don't know if I want to see Dune again.
I didn't like it or a kid, but it wasn't fair because, as I mentioned, and Lynch is a great director, but very different versions.
So, yeah, I'm excited to see what they can do with it.
I don't know where two goes, so I don't know.
I can't ask questions like, will so-and-so come back with this?
Because I don't know who survives, too.
I don't know the book the way like Riley does.
Yeah, and the thing is also with this, you, what is the big complaint?
we had recently with the sequel trilogy
is that you wanted one voice
in charge of it for all those films
so you could have a consistency throughout.
So having him be in charge of these
films, I think is a great thing to have the
consistency of voice throughout
and if he ever gets uninspired,
then at that point you explore it. But by that point, you've already
established the franchise
as a money winner. So I think
this is a great move for Villeneuve. He stays
doing these, doing films in between
other stuff as well. If he stays,
that's the question. Yeah.
Speaking of staying, speaking of staying, we don't know if he's staying.
We don't know if he's coming, where he's going?
What's he doing?
But we know that we have a potential new Kang.
That's what everyone's talking about.
Potential new Kang.
Well, Coleman Domingo actually responded to him because the internet responded to it, obviously.
But he responded to it.
Emmy winning, acting veteran Coleman Domingo is having a moment right now.
And he has an acclaimed turn in Rustin.
I haven't seen Rustin.
Is it really good?
Rustin is okay.
He is good.
Okay.
Okay.
And then he also had another role
in the color purple,
which I did.
The Euphunforius star,
however,
found himself under a new spotlight
in the past few days
after a rumor emerged
claiming he's a contender
to take over the Kang
the Conquerer role in Marvel Studios.
Jonathan Majors, of course,
played various incarnations
of the character in Ant Man
and the Wask Quantumania and Loki.
Majors was fired from the role last month,
within hours of being found guilty
of misdemeanor assault and harassment,
since his exit, many have wondered if Marvel were going to drop the Kang character altogether or simply recast.
Talking with E.T. Online, the 54-year-old Domingo revealed he's aware of the recast speculation,
but isn't certain how much is true, but is grateful for the consideration to which he says.
I don't know. I'm always looking at what I have to do right now.
I know there's talk and conversations around, and I don't know how much is true.
I don't even get that from my team. I can't tell if it's true or not.
The fans are passionate. Somehow my name is out there in the world, and I like,
like the idea of just having your name called and someone's speaking lovely and kindly about
something is a beautiful thing just what will happen with kang is deeply unclear right now
especially in the wake of Disney pushing back various Marvel films to 2025 and tip to be
retooling all right you want to know my my thoughts on this course your show what we got
on this particular comment I think he just confirmed that he has the role I think he just
confirmed he what what a wonderful
political answer this was.
And done in such a classy way.
Yeah.
Such a classy way.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You know,
my team,
it's all love and people,
it's nice to see your name thrown out there,
but my team hasn't even told me anything.
Yeah,
right.
Your team hasn't told you anything.
Get out of here.
I love the answer.
And I was trying to the same thing.
And I thought,
if I was in this team,
I was like, great answer.
Way to go.
But of course,
teams telling them,
yeah,
they,
they want you.
They're going to,
you're going, but what's he going to say? He doesn't want to blow it.
Of course. So I think, I think this is, I think it's a done deal. I think it's a done deal.
I agree with you 100%. The, the comments let you know, because look, we went down this dance with
Joaquin and the Joker. We've gone down this dance with numerous people, Cumberbatch when he was
playing the new con. We've seen this dance. I don't know what they're talking about. You know,
it's just nice to be mentioned. It's nice to be considered. Blah, blah, blah.
But Coleman's in, as the article says, Coleman is in the moment.
And I'll tell you this, it's been almost universal the feeling that, yes, okay,
even for people like me who are like, get rid of the character,
it's always going to have negative connotations because of the connection of Jonathan Majors.
And I'm not sure if you've got a chance to see his interview this morning,
but you see that situation there and you're like, oh, man, I don't know.
But someone like Coleman, who has done a wonderful job on the press tour
for both Color Purple and Rustin over the last year has really ingestion.
himself with people who care about these characters.
And when his name was mentioned, people were super excited on social media.
And even me, like, okay, let's do this.
Now I'm in.
I'm in for a recast.
And it's a smooth recast.
It is a simple recast.
And people will not be like, wait, that's weird.
Terrence Howard is much taller than how can you make?
No, this is a smoother transition between them.
And I think it's going to work so well because you like Coleman so much.
and I think the Terrence Howard thing was layered with contract negotiations and what does this mean?
This is much more of a smoother way in.
And he's a guy who likes to work.
I was worried that other black actors wouldn't want to take it because you're essentially going and taking something from another black actor.
But no, I think with here, it's a different situation.
And Coleman is a guy who just likes to work and he sees it as a job and he's a good actor.
So why not?
Let's do it.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that that's the other thing is I see people.
say it, like they should just move on from the story. They should not do Kang anymore. I don't think
it's that easy. I know. I really just don't. I just don't think it's that easy. I think that if they were,
I think that if it was something that they could have done and they didn't map out everything where
they need to go and how it's going to play into their other films and storyway and probably
going to cost them significant amount of money if they start rewriting or trying to cast a
villain and now put that villain in there instead and put these movies and move things here and
there it's going to cost them a lot of money to do that people don't think about those things right because
it's just like just you know you haven't shot anything yet so yeah but they have a plan yeah and so
with this plan the plan is probably too far along to for them to recast i mean sorry to not recast
so they got to say okay you know what who can do this role and make this work because i see it in
comments now it's like they got to move on from kang we don't need kang anymore it wasn't um
that exciting a character i don't disagree with you that the character did not really fulfill any
terrifying potential yet i don't think there's nobody i don't think that he's you know minus some
of the stuff in loki yeah i thought the stuff in ant man almost diminished the character then and then
then helped it but i think that they just had this plan that they need to do and that's why i think it's
going to happen but there are going to be people who are like oh really we're really we're
going to stick with Kang. He's not that interesting of a character.
But if he can, people will also forget
about recasting if the movies
and the performances are good after a little bit.
Yeah. So, and it's also going to be, I don't,
the question is when he's going to show up if he does.
Right. Right. Because I even saw
Justin,
I know, say something like around the,
don't expect this
announcement anytime soon. Oh yeah. Justin Crowe said they got all
these priorities ahead of announcing a
Kang situation. So yeah.
Which is smart because then you let it like,
dissipate all the anger and the frustration about it and you bring in coleman and if they go the
doom route you know for to match what happens in secret wars yeah came becomes a lesser part of the
story as doom sends to a bigger part of the story so bringing in a Coleman to kind of carry that to
the point i think would make a lot of sense you know hundred or so well and i and i ask you guys
you know what do you guys think overall make sure you comment below if you're watching on the replay
make sure that you let your thoughts be known do you think
that they should recast. Do you think that they should, you know, keep going with the story?
Do you think that Coleman's going to be the one who gets cast? What say you guys? Again,
I see that the, uh, the super chats are coming in. We're going to get to them as soon as we finish up all
the stories. So don't worry, putting them in there. We'll get, we'll get to them for sure. Um,
I do want to get to this story, John, because you know, I think you are too. You're a big heat fan.
I love heat. It's one of my favorites, um, maybe of all time. And, um,
Michael Mann is talking about like,
did you read the book,
the new one?
Yeah,
I have the book,
Snyder recommended it.
That's not the question I asked you.
I said,
did you read it?
I read it halfway through it.
Okay,
fine,
because it's been sitting on my shelf too.
That doesn't mean anything.
I mean,
have you read it?
Michael Mann began the switch to digital
with scenes in 2001's Ali
before going fully digital in 2004 with collateral.
The results are movies like public enemies,
Miami Vice.
black hat, forgot about that one, which are visually often uglier and have a more documentary
style appearance in the classic filmmaking looks of his 1990 films like The Last of the Mohicans,
Heat, and The Insider. In a new post on X by Travis Woods, he reveals that man is considering
returning to shooting on film for his upcoming prequel slash sequel to Heat, which is expected
to be his next project. The news reportedly comes from Man himself during a post-credit
screening he did, sorry, post-credit, post-screening Q&A he did recently at the Egyptian
theater in Los Angeles.
As one user pointed out, man previously teased such a possibility returning to celluloid with
his Ferrari film a few years back, only for it not to happen. Whether it will happen,
we'll wait to see. Casting for the movie has yet to be announced, even as Adam Driver's
name has been rumored for some time and no release date is yet locked. I'm curious about
that Adam Driver rumor, right? Because he worked on him with Ferrari, so you could
see where I could see that happening because of conversations probably already
happened and probably they probably talked about it a lot on set if it is going to happen.
So it's possible.
Who did they say he's rumored for?
Is he rumored for for De Niro's role?
De Niro's role is, I mean, he's like 10 feet taller.
I know.
But still, I mean, you could, you could see him doing it, I guess.
But sure, he's a really good actor.
I started for, you didn't like Ferrari, right?
I didn't.
No, it wasn't for me.
Okay, because I saw the, I, I have it.
I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but I have, I saw, I started the beginning of it and then, you know, as I say in the show all the time, start watching it, wife bailed, and that was the end of it.
But we, we actually started watching Reacher, which I really like.
I love Reacher, man.
Did you watch both seasons?
Both seasons, dude, twice.
I'm about, oh, wow, okay, I'm about, we're about three or four episodes into season one, and we're both, it's like our new show that we're watching.
So I got her, I got her locked into it.
I got her locked in. She's, she's excited about it.
So, um, what was I going to say? Yeah. Oh, heat. So shooting on film, sure.
Sure. I mean, yeah, why not? Like, if you're going to do it, like, I just, I think that I'm very curious to see how they're going to pull this one off. And I want to want to, I'm like, I'm like, well, do I don't, do I just want to read the story?
because I'm just, I want to see what happens to Vincent.
I want to see all these different things.
I want to know.
But then I'm like, well, do I just want to see in, you know, on screen?
Because he wrote the book too.
Yeah, yeah.
So like he's going to put in the movie what he wants to put in the movie.
You know, it's not like one of these things like, ah, I got to lose this.
And they lost this part of the movie, the book.
I wish they wouldn't have done that.
He's, you can put it whatever he wants to put in.
So I don't know if I want to be spoiled.
Well, also the part of this that worries me is,
you know, he's getting older, man.
And the thing about heat is, if you're going to do a prequel and a sequel,
which is what the book is, a prequel and a sequel,
then, you know, you've got to have that energy.
You've got to have that young energy to capture that thing more authentically.
So I don't know if Michael Mann is the right choice to direct this one.
I think he's obviously to introduce, but I don't.
Oh, he's got to.
He's got to direct it, dude.
I don't know.
Got to direct it.
He's got to direct.
He's his passion.
It's his movie.
It would be the same one.
I wouldn't want anyone else direct than heat.
Yeah,
I just,
not for that one.
There's other movies,
sure.
Like,
even though I don't necessarily think that they got the best product out of it,
when people are like,
oh,
Spielberg should be the only one direct in Indiana Jones.
And people will probably now,
we'll see,
he should have been.
I still think Mangold was a,
was a great choice.
I just wish that he wouldn't have been as,
I don't know,
thrown into the making the studio version.
You would do with Logan.
Yeah.
I wish he would have made a,
I wish he would have made a small,
movie like that and make a smaller kind of
Logan, the Logan feel that he did
for X-Men, you know,
that's what he did. That's
smaller, you could have made a radar R, obviously, but you
could have made a smaller feel like independent
kind of driven Indiana Jones.
That would have been something special, man.
Yeah, I'm always confused by it because
we see fans who go like, don't
give me a depressed Indiana,
and it's like, that
happens. The reason it didn't work for
me in Last Jedi is because you could tell
Hamill wasn't 100% on board
with this characterization when you're watching Last Jedi.
And later his comments kind of proved that when he went back and forth about it.
So it wasn't 100% authentically there when you're watching the movie for me.
But it could have worked.
And you could have done that with Indiana.
And I think you had shades of it at the beginning with him there.
And he's not with his wife anymore.
He's teaching and the kids aren't listening anymore.
And it's reflect.
It happens to all of us.
You get older and you're not cool or hip or exciting anymore.
And you've got to be like, well,
What do I do now?
And so that could have been a really interesting.
And so you find his smile by the end of the movie,
but it's a brutal, more honest take on what an adventurer would be like as he gets older,
reflecting back on his life.
Yeah, it's longer conversation.
Yeah, true.
Longer conversation.
But last thing I want to talk about before we get, again, I see the super chats coming in.
We're going to get to them in just a moment here.
But I wanted to, there's just actually a couple stories that tie into this.
And let's get to Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom actually got a strong box office boost.
Let's have this conversation.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
Over 330 million global hall.
It's still going to probably be a loss, but it's got, it came back more so than some of the other movies.
And Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom's disappointing debut led to many writing it off.
And this comes from Mark Cassidy, by the way, over at a comic book movie.
Um, and the, sorry, Antman and the Antman, Aquaman in the Lost Kingdom is the pointing debut led to many writing and off as another casualty of the superhero slump.
The movie has been performing relatively well overseas over the past couple of weeks and now it's taken in over 334 million worldwide.
James Wan's sequel recently passed the Flash, which was 270 million.
Uh, Fury of the Gods was 133.8 million and Blue Beetle was 129 to be on the highest gross in DC movies of 2020.
and now it set its sights on 22's Black Adam at 393.
Aquaman 2 opens Japan, and analysis are confident.
The movie's going to actually pass 400 million,
so it's probably going to beat Black Adam.
So a small win for the WB DC Studios,
but Aquaman Lost Kingdom marks the final movie of the DCU era
before the franchise is rebooted with James Gone and Peter Saffron's DCU,
which means third movie would be unlikely,
even if one had performed a lot better.
Um, so this guys, this, this kind of answers a question that I kept seeing and people asking me like, well, you know, it's really hard on the Marvels. Why didn't know, why aren't we guys hard on on Aquaman? Because Aquaman, yeah, well, because Aquaman's still making money. Yes.
Aquaman wasn't it didn't, it didn't, Marvel's kept losing it at like monumental drops like huge drops. This movie's still making money. I didn't, look, I didn't like this movie. I didn't like this movie at all. Um, but it's making it's making it's going to be, I think they said, two.
250 and then after marking,
so it's going to,
it looks like it could break even,
which is a massive win for,
for the studio.
I think this is a massive win and a bigger story than most people are,
hell,
it's our fourth story of the,
of the day today,
you know,
and it's,
this is a big story.
The fact that everyone was writing this thing off to be a real stinker,
and it's going to wind up breaking even or even making money.
Yeah,
I mean, 400 million.
That's nothing to sneeze at.
And I know you get it.
comparison with how much the production budget was and all of that stuff.
But for all the travails of this film,
to it for it to even get to 400 million,
I think is going to be an incredible accomplishment.
And I saw some people giggling about it overseas,
as if overseas money doesn't spend as good as American money.
It's all fucking money, okay?
So it doesn't fucking matter.
It's a global film community now.
Stop fooling yourselves.
It's a domestic film community.
It's going to make its money.
And you're right about the most.
Well, one thing, actually there's someone, and hold that point in the Marvels.
Someone said that in their actually right, because I think they said they're close to
be with the reshoots.
Probably pushing close to 3, 350 with marking, they probably have to push close to $6,000, $700 million to break even.
Well, who knows?
We saw the elementals go on this run for how long?
Yeah, right.
So I don't know, I don't think, I think it'll probably still, look, the bottom line is it's not going to make $200 million like they thought.
It's going to make $400.
So even if it is a loss, it's not the loss they thought it was going to be.
It's a good plan as far as it needs to make close to $650,700.
But you're saying about the marvels.
Yeah, just saying that what we've seen recently now, man,
and maybe I'll get in trouble for this, but it's nothing new for me recently.
But the marvels, right?
The marvels, right?
They've become people who have become the Marvel's truthers.
That's what I call them.
The Marvel's truthers who all were complaining that no one was writing articles about Aquaman
and its box open.
box office, you'll notice all those people are quiet. All those people aren't tweeting anymore
about it. All those people aren't calling this out. That film failed, okay? It failed. Now, was there
a certain element that was based on racism or sexism or misogyny, whatever you want to say?
Sure, but it wasn't the overall reason that film failed. It just didn't connect with people.
It's a bad time for Marvel. And people didn't want to go see it. Okay. The Aquaman shocked a shit out of
me the first one when it made a billion dollars i didn't like that film the second film now making
400 million it is it has an audience people are going to see this movie so this idea that oh you know
these these websites and these uh industry sites are somehow uh biased against the marvels but they're
loving aquaman uh is just mind blowing to me to see that kind of stuff and i i think people aren't
thinking rationally about this stuff it just didn't work the film failed just accept that the film
failed. That's it.
Don't try to find all these nonsense reasons for why the film failed.
It just failed.
Well, it's doing it's doing better.
It's doing way better than the Marvel's did.
There's no doubt about it.
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tremendously um all right john let's get to some of these questions man okay you got tons of
questions coming in wow um and i'm going to get to all them did you by the way some i and we're going to
get to it in a little bit, but I saw someone already asking you questions.
Get ready for some UAP questions.
Hey, well, let's do it. Do you see the thing about the Miami, the Miami alien?
I saw the video.
Are they crossing the street?
So confused.
I'm like, we're going to cover that.
It's me and Riley and our buddy Pavelle who's going to come in.
And yeah, we're going to, we're going to do that.
We're going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about some other stuff on UAP Tuesday tomorrow.
But, all right, the first one comes in from our buddy, Wicked Art, man.
Nice.
And Wicked Art is the very talented artist who does the capes and cows comic book, but he does the intro for capes and Cows and for Sith.
And he says, hey, Christian and John, my wife and I just watched Guy Ritch.
He's The Covenant last night.
And it was great.
Really hit home being a former Afghan vet myself, but wondering either you watch it.
Roki, you love this movie.
I love the Covenant.
It is fantastic.
It barely did not make my top 10 of last year, but I thought it was a fantastic film.
I did a review of it at like a 21 minute.
review of it, which I rarely do on my channel because I wanted to get more attention for the
film. I thought the guy Richie stepped out of his comfort zone of those gangster films and
delivered a wonderful film with Jake Jillon Hall. And I forget the actor's name. And I don't want to
miss say his name, but he was incredible in this two-hander as they're going back and forth
in this story. And it's just a great story and touching and moving and really well directed and really
well acted. So yeah. I need to see it. I need to see it. I need to see it. Um,
because I have it.
I own it.
It's one of the ones I need to see.
And I remember you talking about it.
And I was like, I need to check this movie.
I heard good things about it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this is Armada.
Thoughts on Leave the World Behind.
Netflix movie.
Thought it was very interesting.
Roke and I actually have talked about this movie.
Like, you got to understand.
There's nothing with Julia Roberts.
I won't watch.
I'll watch you do a Super Bowl commercial.
I'll watch her do.
You know, she can read lottery tickets.
I'll watch it.
But,
The movie itself to me, it starts out really interesting.
And by the end of it, I was like, it's it.
The last scene, I'm like, that's what we're going to do.
It's like one of those.
I'm just going, okay, I want, we left, my wife and I left going, we watched that.
Yeah.
You had a little bit more of a goofy take with it, right?
I call it a laptop flipper.
And it's one of those films where you're like,
I'm just going to flip over my laptop now.
And I'll listen to it and I'll understand what's going on,
but it's lost me already.
But I've got to finish it as a critic or whatever to review it.
But yeah, it started out promisingly.
And the Obama's producing it.
I was like, well, let's see what they got.
And I end up watching it.
And I was like, uh, and then the dance scene with the fuck music.
I'm like, what is going on?
I don't think I want to know from her.
Like, what's going on in that scene?
Because I've seen her in other movies dance.
She can dance.
Sure, she can dance.
What, what is that?
Like, what, what, is that the song that they, did they give her a different song, but or did they say dance like you're a mom at a wedding?
Yeah.
Because that's what it is.
And he's, and he's breaking it down.
He's like, move.
And she's just kind of like, and I'm like, what's, what's going on?
Why are they doing that to her?
What was the decision here?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, anyway, so yeah, the movie, it's, it's okay.
Yeah.
um galagoast our buddy hey guys like everyone else on twitter i agree that joe coy jondro shouldn't
go to go to the game may have been yeah i saw coy actually go after joe coy which i thought
coy did of all the people wow it's true um but yeah no it's it i i think that he shouldn't host for a while
yeah um it's funny because when it was when when coigandro hosted our comedy show the next show after that uh roxy hosted
So,
uh,
Quo did a,
Quo did a set instead.
Um,
right.
So we got,
yeah,
all right.
Here's another.
And Gallagos actually follows that up with speaking about boy in the
Aaron,
would you prefer to go subtitled or dub with an all-star cast for your first time viewing?
I go subtitles.
I always go subtitles.
Always subtitle.
I don't have a problem with subtitles.
I don't have a problem with it.
I'm like,
I, when I did,
um,
like Godzilla.
Like,
yeah.
didn't,
I mean,
Godzilla almost,
you know that,
that what I loved about Avatar too,
was that in the beginning where where Jake is talking about how after a while,
he didn't even realize he wasn't speaking English anymore because it was so fluent to him that it just,
and that's the way they basically told you that they're actually speaking Navi, but you hear English.
That's what it was for Godzilla for me.
I was so locked in to the story.
I forgot I was reading subtitles.
It all just, I followed it, like that.
I was so invested in the story
and that's the same thing.
So subtitles to me, yeah,
I watched the entire series of Dark
subtitle. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I love side titles.
I mean, I've been a fan of foreign film
since I was a teenager, so watching subtitles
for me has never been an issue. And I always
prefer the subtitle. I almost
never watch the dub because
Akira version that's dubbed, or
Akira, as Emma Fife would make me say,
Akita, the dub version
just ruined things like.
So I was like, I'm never watching.
It takes away the emotion of it, the real emotion of it.
Ed Boy movies.
Hey, John and Christian, hope you're well.
Sorry, this was mentioned in the past live, but any potential plans for Planet of the Apes trilogy rewatch?
Do not apologize.
There is a potential plan for that.
And I think what I would do is in the same way now, instead of doing the way that we used to do it with the actual, you know, we'd watch it and then have like a conversation about it,
I think that what we would do is actually show like the footage in the way that I did,
you know, uh, what's the one piece or, or a Soca and I'm actually going to do Echo.
I already shot three of them and I just got the, the first one that we got going up when we can.
We were allowed to drop it once the show drops.
Uh, but I think doing a rewatch that way of Planet of the AIDS before the new one comes out,
I just have to find people who've never seen the movie and watch it with them.
Uh, one person.
I'm not sure.
I'm sure Brett hasn't seen it.
maybe Brett hasn't seen it or Steph.
I'm not sure.
I have to check in.
But yeah,
I think so.
Are you going to do anything on your channel for those?
Oh, sure.
Absolutely.
Same thing as you.
I'm getting into that more in 2024 as I watch you and Greg Alba and other people.
And first late to the party do their rewatches, which are great.
I'm like, yeah, let me try this out and do it the same way.
Because it doesn't have to be first time watching.
You can just be rewatching or watching it after a long time.
People still want to see you react and do it if they like what you do on the channel.
That's right.
That's right.
Okay.
so next one here mike joyce he said sending in a super chat to keep roca happy thank you mike
mike's always very supportive of the show i appreciate that so much okay ralph great name ralph do you guys
put paul t anderson on the same level of scraisezzi nolan and tarentino and what's your
favorite movie of his i like licorice pizza um i actually you and i differ um i did like licorice
pizza um but no i would put i wouldn't put him there i do i do get excited when he's got a new
movie to see what he's going to do boogie nice is my favorite yeah boogie niz my favorite but um but i would say
yeah i would say that he's not he's i wouldn't put him there yet in that range but he he definitely is
he's more so in the west anderson kind of thing for me yeah and he's um you know he's curating i
think some of TCM with Scorsese and Spielberg. So certainly certain people consider him in that
section of directors. And I think he's a fantastic author and a wonderful filmmaker. I love
Bogie Nights as well. I think that is the number one film of his, although Punch Trunk Love for me is a
very quiet 1A or 1B compared to Boogie Nights. But yeah, licorice pizza, that was May
December, but not good. I hated that film so much. Yeah, I didn't mind it.
So Sam, oh, hey, John and Chris, with Barbie not winning best comedy, does it still have a shot at winning best pitcher?
Also, could holdovers and what's, what's AOA?
What is that?
I don't know.
Oh, anatomy of the fall.
Oh, anatomy of the fall.
Okay.
Also, could holdovers and anatomy of fall be the dark horses for best pitcher?
Dark horses, sure.
I think that, I think you got a better shot in anatomy of fall winning for Best Foreign Film.
which probably is a shoe in lock for.
But I think, look, the thing with Barbie is that I just don't, I mean, my opinion,
I just don't think it's better than it's definitely better than Oppenheimer, in my opinion.
It's not better than the holdovers.
It's not better than poor things.
It's like people are, I can't believe it wasn't in your top 10.
I didn't love that movie.
I thought it was a very well-directed film.
I didn't love the movie.
There are a lot of people who did love it.
It did very well in box office.
But it also doesn't mean anything from Golden Globes into Oscars because the Oscars can also be very political.
And Oscars can also be, they don't, in the past, they've made decisions on not necessarily the best movie, but what they think that should win for social statuses.
It's, it has happened.
Sure.
For sure.
So I don't, don't write it off just because it lost at the Golden Globes.
I don't think it should win, but don't write it off just because it did.
Yeah, I don't think it, I don't think it has a shot at winning best picture.
I mean, it has a shot, sure, as, you know, like, just like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have a shot at winning the Super Bowl shirt because they're in the playoffs.
It has a shot, but I don't think it's, and not that I think it's comparable to Tampa Bay.
It's obviously a better film than that team.
But, like, I just think the Academy is not going to give it to Barbie.
They'll give it to Oppenheimer.
I think that's going to be the choice at the end of the day.
It's between that and holdovers.
And I think at the end of there is going to be Oppenheimer because they want it to reflect a certain thing.
The Academy likes to be seen in a certain way.
And I think that film reflects it.
And I want to ask the Barbie people, if you want Barbie, did you think Top Gun Maverick should have won best picture?
Because I think that's comparable in ways to Barbie and how it's a popular film made that much money.
Right.
And had an emotionally resonant story with a movie star.
It is the top gun of this year for sure.
Yeah.
As far as I hear what you're saying.
As far as that the mass audience on.
My daughter was up for a little bit last night.
She's like, I hope Barbie wins.
You know, because it's the movie that she knows.
She doesn't know any of these other movies that you're coming out.
Speaking of which, Mike Joyce says,
who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl?
This is the first time that I'm ever going to say these words in this.
This shows you how,
where I am in my life, John.
Okay.
Who's in the Super Bowl?
Well, first of all, we just got the playoffs.
Oh, okay.
I don't even know.
No idea.
It's the playoffs just started.
I have, I am so, I've never been so detached from football in my life.
I watched the Giants do with it and Duluca do, do his,
do his stuff, but I just, I, not watching any playoffs, not watching anything.
I just, I have no time.
I have no time to watch.
I turned on football for like two seconds yet.
It was a jaguar.
Jaguars, are they in it?
They got knocked out by the Titans.
Okay, but they were, they were in it.
They were going to win the division if they had won, yeah.
Okay, I wasn't imagining it.
So I turned, I turned it on and my, and I'm like, all right, I'm going to watch a little
of this game.
And my daughter comes and, my daughter comes in, ah, football.
And it was it.
And no, I can't, I can't do shit in my house.
So I'm like, forget it.
I'm not even going to pay attention.
So who didn't see them in the Super Bowl?
I don't even know who's in.
I think it's going to be Ravens versus 49ers in a repeat of years ago.
And I think if the 49ers stay healthy, I think the 49ers can win the Super Bowl for sure.
But I think Buffalo is a dark horse in the AFC.
And in the NFC, the Cowboys have a real shot.
So those are the only two teams that I would, or four teams that I would consider.
But I think the 49ers, if they stay healthy, win the Super Bowl.
All right.
That's me talking.
All right.
So then we have Ralph, again, I agree.
Planet of the Apes.
Rewatch, please.
Definitely possible.
There's new things that I want to try.
I was actually thinking of doing, I mentioned this.
You know, I've never seen Squid Game.
Ooh.
Yes, I might be one that I'm going to watch.
Well, you have to do the series and then the reality show.
That's what I hear.
That's what I hear.
Real show's excellent, man.
My buddy, Met Bull.
Of the last 10 years of Oscar movies, would this be considered a good year, bad year,
a moderate year?
It's a great question.
I think it's a good year.
I think it's one of those things because I have a question for you, Matt Bull,
because this is as a casual fan, right?
How many of the movies that you've seen on nominations have you heard of that you've seen,
minus me talking about them because I know you watch the show?
But like the casual viewer, like I'm curious because there are a lot of movies that are out there
that were nominated.
And like I said on Golden Globes, I saw like almost all of them.
And it's one of those, one of the first times that as the awards are coming through,
I'm like, yeah, I've seen all these.
I don't have to catch up on anything.
I've seen everything.
So I think it's a good year.
Do I think it's a great year?
No, but I think it's a very,
I think it's a solid year.
I agree with that.
It's a solid year.
There are a lot of good films that are out there for you to watch.
International ones as well.
So I think it's a very good year,
or it's a solid year, good year,
but not a great year.
I agree with you.
Not a good year.
Okay.
Kenneth,
thank you, Kenneth.
Very, very kind of you.
Kind.
Everybody's putting in Superjohns.
Very kind.
But Kenneth puts in in 1999.
Hard choice to pick my most anticipated film of 2024.
I got to go, June part two, with Deadpool 3 is a close second.
Pleasure to see you guys live.
Thank you for watching us live.
I'm actually going to be doing a full top 10 anticipated.
I'm doing two things this week that are going to kind of preview a bunch of things.
The first I'm going to do is the top 10 most anticipated of the year.
That should come out very soon.
If not end of day to day, then maybe end of day tomorrow.
But then Sean Chandler is coming on the show.
Right.
And we're going to talk about just the 2024, just movie preview.
And we're going to cover from January until December and just go over everything.
So I'm not going to give you away my most anticipated.
I will tell you that both of the ones that you mentioned will absolutely be on my list.
That's a definite.
But yeah, there's a lot of movies out there.
And what always happens to me every year.
I don't know if that happens.
The same thing with you, John, is that I make a lot of.
I make a list and then something comes out that I either
forgot about or there's a trailer that drops and I'm like
oh, you know, because as we talked about like that
that, that's an era movie, that one that mobster movie.
I'm so, I'm so curious about that movie, but I can't tell
if it's going to be if it's going to be my list yet because I want
to see, because I want to see a trailer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like, you know, I'll say Madam Webb.
That's my most end is a bit of him.
My damn Webb.
But no, I agree with you. I put one out as well because I've been sick
last week and so I'm behind on every video I wanted to do to start the year.
So I'll be doing that this week as well.
So yeah, I won't give anything more. But yeah, there's those two are definitely on the list.
And there's a few other ones.
And you're right, Christian, there's these smaller films that pop up out of nowhere every year that people are like, oh, my God, you got to see this.
So there may be some anticipated ones that we don't know about yet until we see a trailer or hear the buzz.
Yeah.
Sure. Thank you again for the wonderful, I'm switch out.
Okay. Christopher, I'm a content creator. I'm having an issue with another creator.
trying to start drama with me. How would you handle a situation like this? Thank you. We're going to
have different answers for this. My biggest thing, John and I talk about this stuff all the time.
We text about this all the time, guys. All the time. My advice to everybody inside of this social
media age is post and run, meaning post your content, focus on your content. Depending on what you
do inside of your content, I don't believe in, you know, making, in the same way that I talked about
it before, where I said that, you know, when somebody's out there as if you're following somebody,
if you're watching an actor on Golden Globes or whatever it might be, and you're watching for
the movies, and somebody has, it gives a political speech has nothing to do with the movie itself.
As I mentioned, Lily Gladstone was absolutely irrelevant. It made sense, everything that she was doing.
But sometimes people use, I don't watch it for that.
Other people say, oh, they use the platform for the time that they had and they should.
But I also push back in the fact that if you're following one of those actors on Twitter and they post, oh, I don't follow you for this.
Well, then don't follow them because that's their personal platform.
But I don't use my platform for political stop.
I just don't do it.
I just don't be because I talk about movies.
I talk about, you know, TV shows.
And I, and I just, it's just not because I know everybody's on different sides of the aisle for different things.
And for me, I think that's one of the biggest problems with the entertainment space is that there's this, there's this look at what I got to try to accomplish.
Look at what I need to try to accomplish.
I'm going to leave with this.
I'm going to leave with that.
And it's like, I just want to talk about certain things inside of the movies.
And in the same way that when I talk about the UAP stuff, UAP stuff to me is supposed to bring together both of the both of the sides.
And it's a different thing.
And you bring up different politicians.
You'll think because it's part of what's going on.
So that's one time that I do dive into that.
but I say stay away from drama unless you're a drama channel like is that what you do
like if that you do and some people do that I don't have the mental health to to try to do that
I don't like fighting with people I don't like people screaming and yell at each other to me it's
easier to mute people it's easier to just if people want to scream and yell at you they can and
you let them do it and that's what makes them happy that's what makes them happy I don't get enjoyment
of going after other people John you feel different look
Christian and I are just different people in how we approach these things.
And I respect Christian's point of view.
And Christian knows I, whenever there's a kerfuffle and some of you may have paid attention
to a little bit of a kerfuffle over the weekend, I reach out to Christian.
I go, this and this is going on.
What's your advice?
And Christian's always great.
I don't always take the advice.
But he's one of the few people in my life who I trust in situation like this to give me
perspective that is experienced and knowledgeable.
So if you're listening right now and you're listening to what Christian said and answering
your question and that appeals to you, then do that. That works for you. Nine times out of ten,
he's right about how to approach these things. You know, he'll tell me to lay off it, leave it alone.
And when if someone's trying to start drama, most of the time, if they're trying to start
drama, it's because they want to use you to elevate their channel. They want to use the drama
to get attention for themselves. I've been tagged on a few videos this weekend. I haven't watched any of them.
I don't know these people. I don't care about these people. And I'm not going to watch them
go insane about something that I felt passionate about,
I don't need to waste my time with it.
But if you're going to engage in drama,
just know, as Christian said,
if you're going to engage in this and this,
you're right to engage in it,
you've got to be able to deal with the blowback
because there's going to be a lot of people
who are going to come on your channel
and put some pretty ugly, horrific, toxic,
bullying stuff on your channel,
and you've got to decide,
am I going to read all those comments,
and can my mental health deal with it?
That's the game.
A lot of people get into this YouTube sphere,
And all they see is the money or the attention.
And they don't understand there's a drawback to this that people will criticize.
People will come after you.
Enough of them come after you that you start to question your own feelings about things.
So if you're going to engage with a creator and have drama,
just know that you're opening a door or a Pandora's box and you can't control where it goes.
I think the smart move, especially if you're a person who's got more followers,
more subscribers, is to ignore them.
Or if they have more followers, you can ignore them as well because it's your decision
how you want to take care of yourself.
So that's what I would say.
That's the battle I always have
because I am an opinionated person.
People come after me.
People misconstrue or twist or whatever.
Like they twisted my feelings about a certain thing recently.
And you just got to deal with it and roll with it.
And that's part of the game.
So that's what I would say to you.
If you want to engage in it,
just know that you're opening Pandora's box you can't control.
The only thing you can't control is how you respond to things.
And if you want to ignore it,
that's maybe the smarter move for you if you know you can't handle it.
post and run
exactly
it's great
here's the next
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that's why i'm ralph yes
that was pachino
oh i know you don't tell me i'm
oh you have your line i'll do the line
that was pachino
he yelled it for banging his wife
watching his TV
shut up ralph
sit down
you can fuck
but you can't have
my tini
the best
the best
the lines some of the lines
some of the lines he has in that role and some iconic stuff 100% man who what are you fucking owl
the best uh okay let's see let's keep going thank you everybody here who's uh continue you guys
can keep throwing them in there and as like i said we're not going to leave until um until they're
all set and done so you know if you saw oh it was too late nope we're we're here until until we run out so
I'm going to keep going. Hold on. Sorry guys. Going through, going through, going through.
So I think the next one here is from Dennis Hoffman. I love Roka. And check out a hot mic and Snyder's
newsletter. Yeah, absolutely. So Roka, what are you looking for the next question? Why should tell people
what's going on on the on the channel right now? Yeah, the hot mic is going on 4 p.m. every Thursday.
Jeff Snyder and I going at it. We were going at it on Twitter about the Golden Globe today.
So it isn't just on the show.
We're always going at it about things as two East Coast boys.
If you like our show, the Hot Mike for PMPD,
if you like Jeff, you like me,
we have strong opinions about things going on in the world of entertainment.
It's the one place where we are not, well, I don't know,
I don't want to speak for Christian,
but it's the one place on my channel where we're not beholden to studios
or actors or directors or producers.
Jeff and I give you what we believe to be the truth in our analysis
of situations going on in the world of entertainment.
It's always fun.
It's never boring.
and you're going to find strong opinions on that show.
And that's on the Outlaw Nation network
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And of course, Jeff has his newsletter at the ensignor.com
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And he's always dropping stuff every day.
If you can put up with his ranting tweets
about how stuff isn't working on his website.
The best.
All right.
Or Jeff.
Check it out, guys.
The Raven Effect.
Hey, Christian and John,
what do you think is the number one trope in movies today
that needs to stop. For me, it's that violence is the only answer. No one in films ever tries to be a
peacemaker or calls for a truce. It's tiring. I think that the, look, that mantra in the world is
fantastic. I think in a certain movie, like if John Wick was like, hey, guys, let's stop doing this.
It doesn't work as much, but I know what you're saying. I don't know. There's a lot of different
tropes. Questions like this are always tough on the spot because I'm like, oh, there's certain things that
happen. It's just a predictable thing. You know, this is going to happen. Oh, well, they, they say,
set this person up i guess casting someone who's always a villain and then you just know and they
try to get you with the twist that they're the villain you know it's like oh well yeah well yeah
that's why you cast them i know they're going to be bad like oh you're trying to tell me this time
that this person's actually good oh there's the twist they're actually bad like that that's up
me nuts there's other things that i'm sure as you watch my i hate when they do this but i can't think of
it right off the bad that's one that comes to mind to me is when you're trying to sell me a guy who's a
strong villain and he's got terrible henchmen around him.
This is always frustrating.
I was watching a little bit of Force Awakens over the weekend.
And that's one of those things that I thought bothered me a little bit about First
of Order.
First Order was you had General Hux,
but Hux seems like he's a completely incompetent guy to be in charge of this stuff.
And it's like,
you've got to really do a great job of uplifting your villain,
but also uplifting the people around him or her,
so that you're like completely buying into the situation.
And we were talking about a show before we said,
started here where that same situation popped up again where you're like, why? Why are these the
choices of the hench people to be around this person? Because it doesn't make any sense. So you've got
to match it in terms of quality. 100%. Absolutely you do. All right. Here's the,
here's the next one. Okay. What's Roker's opinions of UAPs? I believe in it. Yeah. I believe in
them. I believe in aliens. I believe in all that stuff. I've always believed in all that stuff.
do I know if do I believe if the government's I'm still out on that I'm still
processing all the information as I'm reading and learning more certainly through
Christian and other people reading these articles and finding out more about this kind of
stuff but I've always believed in aliens always believed in UAPs and I would not be
surprised especially when you see some of that footage from Air Force guys and people in the
military who are not really known for lying about those kinds of things because they
take it very seriously that's the stuff.
that kind of pushes me over the edge to believe that we have had encounters numerous times in our history in this country.
That's what I'm saying, man, because of that, because of that answer in general, like, you don't even know, like, a fraction of the amount of military that has talked about this stuff.
You didn't even know the fraction.
You saw, like, their credentials and everything, too.
Like, you'd be on me and Riley every week singing about that.
Maybe coming.
I'm telling you, for sure.
Okay.
Raven, effect, if you think Joe Coy did a bad job posting, just saying, we saw your boobs and realized,
didn't do so bad. Is that, is that one of his jokes that he did?
Well, he talked about Barbie, saying,
Oh, right. The boobs, but I, which I mean, Greta was like, uh, yeah,
nothing really worked.
Let me, let me ask you something. Do you think it would have worked if he had passed
the joke by Taylor Swift? Like, if he had said to Taylor, yes, listen, we're going to joke about
this. Are you, let's do a bit. That, that's a smarter move, right?
That's what I said to be in that joke. Yeah. That joke. That joke, had he had a
rapport with her. And had she had a like, if she was like, all right, you got me. And yeah,
she's like, and she was like, you can goof with that. That's funny. And I, but she clearly
doesn't want to talk about this because it probably bothers her. It does. And you cannot go after
the biggest pop star in the world right now with the audience that she has and people that she's got
this in your, if it's Ricky Jervas, he's not going to care. He's not going to care. Who cares
who cares at the Swifties committee? He doesn't care. Joe Coy doesn't have that yet. It doesn't have that,
doesn't have that kind of, you know, fan base.
He doesn't have, it's like, oh, he's trying to be ballsy.
Yeah, but she was nominated for a concert film.
Yeah, yeah.
And she's probably, you know, that that was it.
You had so many other people that were going to be more the focus of that night.
Yeah.
What are you doing?
And like even, and, oh, the way that he went after Oppenheimer was bad.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
If you were going to go after, I was surprised.
If you were going to go after a three and a half, a long movie,
you should have went after Killers of the Flower movie.
That movie is still playing right now for my showing.
I saw it two months ago.
And I like that.
I really like that movie.
But it's like, come on.
I mean, what are these people doing?
Why is it so long?
And why is that guy still dancing at the wedding?
All right.
That took me five days, blonde.
Jesus.
Simon section.
Both of you have dipped your toes in Santa Ana.
No, no.
That is Christian.
I don't think Simon knows the history there, but...
I've dipped a fingernail, okay.
I've done more than dip my toes.
But I understand what you're saying.
Did you see Kat Williams calling out comedians in the Shay-Shay podcast?
I did.
Even Joe Rogan would, like an interview, Joe Cat, UFO's evil cabba?
I feel nervous.
What's that one?
What did I miss?
He's just putting those things together.
Joe, Cat Williams, UFO's evil.
I know that they're doing...
Thank you, by the way, Simon, for the very, very generous.
rest donation I I I you know they're doing like a so Jeremy Corbell who's very much
involved in the UAP stuff they're doing this documentary with a lot of
different information I don't if you saw the trailer yet but like and it's TMZ
produced which is interesting but I'm that one's gonna that one's gonna have a lot
of crazy shit going on in it that's coming out soon but no as far as a stand-up
goes I did see I did see Cat Williams do something but I wasn't paying
attention to all of it to be completely honest it's a three-hour podcast
Yes.
Jim and Shannon Shepardt,
yeah,
Shannon Sharp talking about all of his stuff.
And yeah,
I saw clips on social media
and people responding back and forth.
I love Cat.
I think Cat is great.
He's the new Paul Mooney,
that guy that tells you.
Paul Mooney.
I'm just saying,
he tells the truth
whether you want to hear it or not.
And so I like that about Kat.
Fine,
but Paul Mooney,
Paul Mooney was a very special kind of,
I know,
you're right.
There's no other Paul.
And I say that because I,
Paul,
Paul was always very good to me.
Paul was always very kind to me, nice to me.
And he was, he was no bullshit.
That's what I love about.
He was no bullshit.
Luke Skywanker.
Will Lucasfilm be smart and hire Takashi Yamasaki who did Godzilla minus one?
Will they be, I can't see it.
I hate saying it, but I can't say the Lucas film will be smart.
They haven't made a smart decision in a very long time.
Do you think they're going to?
Um, no, I don't think they'll hire Takashi Yamazaki unless they start exploring stuff from visions to some of the anime or Japanese influence stuff.
It'd be interesting to see him explore that, but I really doubt they'd hire it.
They should, they should hire him and have him do a freaking $100 million dollar Star Wars movie and actually make me care about the characters.
That's what would be, that would be a wonderful.
That's fair.
That's fair.
Um, John Lee.
If I had France didn't submit an anatomy of a fall, so it can't win.
But didn't it win foreign language?
Oh, I guess it won foreign language for Golden Gloves, but not for not for Oscars.
Some of the States and Things make a nominee for Best Picture.
Oh, well, they'll definitely get nominated for Best Picture.
People love that movie.
Yeah.
It's really good.
It's a really good film.
A lot of Top Ten lists for critics.
It was in mine.
Was in yours?
Yep.
Yeah, it was in mine.
Just a very nice donation with a horse head from Butfut.
Thank you, Buckfut.
Is that a good reference?
I don't know.
Maybe.
It's hard to say that with a straight face, but,
Thank you, but funnel.
Okay.
Here is the next one.
Aquanos.
You all have been the two most centered voices on the state of fandom.
Bravo.
Well, thank you.
Wow.
Very kind.
I think Gryson much more than me, so I appreciate it.
It's very nice that someone said that about you.
Yes, very.
My Coleman DeVigo, it's nice to be in the conversation.
It's nice to be mentioned.
But my agents haven't had that conversation with me.
Yeah, with me.
No.
But the difference is they'll never have that conversation.
That's true.
All right.
I love what you do.
Thank you.
Have you or your daughters watched the new Percy Jackson series?
So what do you think?
We watched the first one.
I'm so,
my daughter right now,
my oldest is obsessed with two things.
Stranger Things.
Yeah.
And five nights at Freddie.
Oh, yeah.
She's obsessed.
She's obsessed with the books,
the games,
the movie,
the,
and Percy Jackson.
She's gone to Percy Jackson camp
the last two years.
She was so excited for the
this series, but she's so, all she wants to do is watch, we watched episode one,
a Stranger Thing season four last night.
She has not watched season two, or sorry, episode two of Percy Jackson.
I even said to her, she got mad at me because I was like, I said, are you not as into
Percy Jackson?
He was like, yeah, I'm still into it, but I just don't want to watch it right now.
I'm like, take it easy.
But like, but no, I, I saw episode one and it was good.
Did you watch it yet?
Yes, it's not good.
So it's not for me.
Oh, you didn't like the first one?
I didn't. I don't think they filled it with really great actors to play the gods.
Yeah.
But I think the young kids are just not as strong.
Oh, you look at the main kid.
Yeah, the kid from Adam Project.
You like him?
Oh, all right.
All right.
Met Bull is back.
I think I'm less than a casual fan now.
So I haven't seen any of the Oscar movies.
10 years ago, I saw them all.
I want to get back into it, but I think good writing has moved to TV.
John Wickford broke me.
Broke you in a way that, like, it's not good.
Um, like it's, it's very video gameish. I enjoyed it. Um, but as far as 10 years, um, as far as writing goes, I can't disagree that a lot of great writing has shifted to TV. I mean, that's definitely true, but there's some, there's some really good writing this year. Again, I would, I recommend anatomy for a fall. Yeah. Really good movie. Godzilla minus one is a half to the
Godzilla minus one is one is one of my favorite movies in the last like 10 years. Yeah. Uh, so that movie, um, air, you haven't seen air.
There's great. Holdovers is great writing.
Holdovers is great writing. Poor things is not for everybody.
Poor things is not for everybody, but it's certainly a great, a really well-written movie.
And I loved how Jorgos geeked out about Bruce Springsteen. That was awesome.
That was surprising. That was awesome.
Matt Pold, there's a good one hour and 45 movie in John Wickford. I see what he's saying.
Yeah, it goes on for a bit. I didn't mind it because it was the final one, but I understand the criticism for sure.
And then Mike Joyce, if you liked John Wick 4, check out Sisu.
You love that, John?
Cisu is a great, I love revenge movies.
And I love foreign revenge movies even more because there's less of a restriction on those movies and the violence.
So to me, I get so much out of these vengeance movies, revenge movies.
So Sisu worked so well.
I would highly recommend it too, Christian.
Wayne Edwards.
Good morning.
Jens, have you either seen Leave the World Behind?
I guess he came in late.
It's pretty scary due to how possible.
it is and Obama produced it. What the bleep.
So, Wayne, we talked that there was an earlier
Superjet that actually came in about that.
I think that the,
just to reiterate real quick, I think that the
actual premise of the movie,
it was good. I thought they had delivered on a bunch
of things up top. I didn't like the way that it
ended. It was scary as far
as what could potentially happen and how they
did it. I thought this thing with a boat was really great.
The dancing scene
in the very end was a little like,
what the hell just happened?
And John felt the same. John felt more so.
He just disliked it.
I just thought it was kind of, yeah.
I think his Julia Roberts love carried him through a lot.
It's probably 100% accurate.
Yeah.
That's probably 100% accurate.
I'm not as in love with her as you were.
Oh, yeah.
I'm telling you, only, really the only celebrity that I've ever just,
I've lost the will to speak when I met her.
It was weird.
It's like, just take the picture, you moron.
And that was it.
I think that's it.
I think that's it.
I think we got everything.
Unless, you know, we're wrapping up and somebody else put something else in there.
But for the most part, we are.
good so thank you guys for joining us here today on the episode we covered a bunch and thanks for
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