The Kristian Harloff Show - Was the internet too harsh to Drew Barrymore?

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow Drew Barrymore was in a storm over the last week when she decided to bring her show back amidst the WGA strike. After a storm of controversy, she has decided not to do that. She apologized for hurting anyone she might have by her decision. the internet was not as forgiving as she was accused of only doing it because of the criticism. Are we bale to forgive and shouldn't we in certain circumstances? or was it justified? the Rock returned to the WWE at this week's Smackdown. Does this mark another return and does the WWE need new stars and how can they do it? The box office is in and the smaller movies prevail. Winning Time was cancelled. This and more on The Big Thing with Kristian Harloff #drewbarrymoreshow #wwe #controversy #therock #boxoffice #movies 

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Welcome back to The Big Thing. It is Monday. I hope you had a wonderful weekend. And we got some stuff to talk about the box office, obviously. There's not a lot out there, but people are still going to see the movies. So we're going to tell you what the top five, even the top 10, what was it this week? Drew Barrymore. She said, I'm coming back.

I'm going to be doing the show. I know that there's a writer's strike. I know that all this stuff is happening, but I'm coming back because other people have jobs and I've got to help it out. The Internet said, no, no, no, no. And the writer said, no, no, no, and everybody said, no, no, no, and Drew said, okay, you're right.

I'm sorry, I was wrong. And instead of people saying, you know what, she saw that it was hurting people, and she saw, and she said, I shouldn't do this. They said, of course, of course she did, because she's got blowback. And they don't let, they say, we want change.

Someone says, I'm going to change. I heard you. And you go, you're still bad. It's like the internet sucks. And we'll talk about that. And then winning time.

I haven't heard this show about, I haven't seen the show, I shouldn't say. Heard a lot about it. But I got canceled. And people are pissed because apparently it's a great show. I heard nothing with great things

about this show, by the way. And I got canceled. So the Rock returned to the WWE. He got an amazing, amazing ovation. talked a little bit about that so we'll talk about that and more on this episode of the big thing if you haven't been here before and you're brand new to the channel we're getting close man we're almost at 93,000 subscribers we're getting close to that

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What you are not like, Or at least some people didn't like this this Drew Barrymore situation. Let's talk about it. Drew Barrymore has announced she won't be bringing back her self-titled talk show back until the strike is over. The move follows on from a week of headlines in which the actress and host of the Drew Barrymore show initially revealed her show would be returning without writers and would abide by strike rules in not discussing struck work. Barrymore issued a video apology after she received a major pushback from the industry and the Writers Guild itself. That video apology was subsequently taken down. Today, she issued a new statement on Instagram saying the following.

I have listened to everyone, and I'm making the decision to pause the show's premiere until the strike is over. I have no words to express my deepest apologies to anyone I have heard, and of course to our incredible team who works on the show and has made it what it is today. We really tried to find our way forward. And I truly hope for a resolution for the entire industry very soon. A spokesperson for the series added a statement. We support Drew's decision to pause the show's return and understand how complex and difficult this process has. has been for her. Following this news, CBS's The Talk announced a similar action scrapping their plans to return on the 18th. CBS says in a statement, we will continue to evaluate plans for a launch date.

Syndicated Talker, the Jennifer Hudson Show, has also halted return plans. Okay, so there's a lot here. There's a lot here. And the first part is, this is tough for everybody. This is tough in general for obviously the writers and the actors who were consistently every day, losing work because they're fighting for what they know is right, and what I believe is right, what I think should happen. And I think the studios are being, a lot of people, think studios are being very, very greedy and have offered crap deals and knew, knew that they wanted to let these things go on for at least three months

because they wanted to save money. And they wanted to, they were going to go for a certain time, and now that they're now losing money, I think it was something along the lines of everything that the writers wanted of something like $65 million is what would it cost the studios and now they're losing something like $500 million a day or something ridiculous. I can't remember what it is, but the number is astronomical.

It's for whatever it might be. I might have botched those numbers a little bit, but nonetheless, the amount of money that they've lost so far, far outreached is what they could have just settled. So there are other jobs on the line, you know, the people who are working behind the crew on people who are not affected or shouldn't say aren't affected,

but maybe aren't being fought for, you know, out there that it's affecting them as well. So I think that the initial statement for what Drew Barrymore was trying to do to bring people back to say, like, I could see it inside of the room. And I could say, hey, what if we don't, what if we abide by the rules,

we don't bring on the writers, we do things a certain way, and we bring people back to work, and that way we can do it, and that way we can, I think that her heart, I think her heart was in the right place. when it was a bad move. But I think her heart was in the right place

of what she was trying to do. But you're out, you're kind of stepping over the entire fight by doing it on that side. And that's what, and that's ultimately what people were saying. Like, no, no, no, this is not the move. You can't do this.

You can't do it. And she got a lot of pushback. Deservidly so. She had a lot of pushback. A lot of people saying, no, no, no, no. and what she said was she tried to at first go, this is the reason why I just want to let everybody know, maybe you'll understand it's people like,

no, you're not getting it, here it is. And so she listened to it and she said, all right, people are hurt. I'm going to step back. It's not a good decision. People are clearly, maybe I thought it would be like a 50-50, but it is not. It's like a 90-10, if that. Maybe 95-5 of people going, what are you doing?

So I decided I'm not going to do it. very similar to what I just said to you in a very different circumstance, but similar to where I told you guys, I like listening to the audience. I like hearing what the feedback is of certain things. When people go, I don't know, Patreon, this, that, I don't know what, I like Patreon better because of this, and I listen, right?

That's just that that's a simple. That's a simple thing. Something like this. You're listening to people and you're getting bombarded because you made a decision. It was the wrong decision, and then you heard it. What the Internet level is, loves to do. The internet loves to do this. Hey, you're doing the wrong thing. You're doing the wrong thing. Okay, listen, I'm sorry. I was doing the wrong thing. I apologize. And now I, you're right. I'm going to make a choice. Well, the only reason you're saying that is because we told you that you needed to make a change. And it's like, you don't, we don't allow people to, to make mistakes. We don't allow people to make a change if we're asking them to make a change. I'll be it. No matter how, how, how,

passionate and how, and I'm being very clear that I think that it was right for people to get upset at Drew. I think they were right for people to get upset initially to say, what are you doing? This is this fight going on. What are you doing? But this is, uh, but this is just so typical of the internet. Well, of course, the only reason they apologize is because we asked them to. The only reason they apologize is because their career is going to be ruined at the don't. And it's like it's the same conversation that we have all the time on this show about it's a very different circumstance. Like if you had a conversation with somebody, if somebody hurt your feelings and you know they hurt your feelings and then you said to them, hey, I need to talk to you.

That thing that you did, you kind of did this, you did that and you didn't think of me and you made the decision for yourself and you and it was somewhat selfish and I'm not saying I'm just talking about in general a different situation and it was somewhat selfish and I felt bad I felt like you didn't even listen or think about me and uh I feel like shit and that person goes whoa okay I made that choice I didn't think you not only did you tell me that someone else called me told me that I hurt their feelings Someone else told me I hurt their feelings. Wow, I'm sorry. I'm not going to do that.

I'm going to change that. It's not on social media. It's between, let's say, three to five people. And then you go, oh, I messed up. I'm sorry. And normally, the face-to-face people will say, okay, well, I respect the fact that you looked at it, you made the situation, and we told you.

And of course, it's one of those things like, oh, wow, I'm going to be, I'm going to look. can be like I'm a fucking asshole. And I think it's the people that go, like, look, there's a whole other situation of Bill Maher. I don't like, Bill Maher's going to change. At only he's going to put his feet in the ground and say, no, I ain't moving. Maybe he won't.

I don't know, but it seems like he's not going to move anywhere. Drew Barrymore was like, I feel terrible about this. I feel bad. And we're still like, it's only because of this. It's like this non-connected human thing now. And it's one of the reasons I really, it's like social media. man. It's social media because you don't see the person as a real person. You just see them as a figure. You see them as a celebrity. You see them as a person behind that Twitter account or the video behind it because you feel like I can say this to you because I'm mad about it.

The only reason you says is this. But those same people, if Drew Barryman was talking to them face to face in a room going, hey, I messed up. I'm sorry. What do you think? most people, I think, good people, would say, okay, look, I do think that the pressure probably got to you. And it did. Of course it got to her. Of course it did. But that doesn't mean that she's not good. And look, I've never seen this show. I don't know.

I shouldn't say I haven't seen clips. I've seen clips. And I know Drew Bairmore. But it's like, it's not the point. The point is, I just think that if we always. If we're out there asking for change from people, and then they change, and we still give them shit, what's the point?

What's the point? So, I don't know. I do, I will say this, though. I do, I have, I think, thankfully, I have seen people sharing this point of view that I'm sharing here today. I've seen this from quite a few people going, come on, she said she was sorry. It was a stupid thing that she did.

She's sorry, and she's trying to make the change, and she's not going forward with it. And of course, it had to do with pressure. But it doesn't mean that it's not because she doesn't legitimately feel bad. But I don't know. I could be on the wrong here. Well, at least I could be in the wrong on your point of view here. You could be, you could think, no, she shouldn't have done it in the first place. I don't forgive her.

She sucks. And you may feel that way. And that's up to you. I just feel like sometimes we're just a little, we ask for things. and then when we get them, it's like, nope. You know what? I did want to tell you about this. We have a new sponsor, and it's called Fume.

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All right, let's move to our next topic. All right, let's talk box office here. Kenneth Braun's film Haunting in Venice debuted to 14.5 million domestically and 37.2 million globally. Softer then, expected domestically, where it came in second, but right on track internationally, where it proved fairly strong in European markets. Critical reviews have been good, though the film is beginning to draw an interesting online reaction over the weekend, even if it scored the same B-cinema score in exit polls.

The Nun 2 maintains strong business coming in first domestically with 14.7 million and snagging a further 30.1 million offshore. Its worldwide total stands at 158.8. It's a big number. The film was reportedly tracking ahead of all the other films in the conjuring franchise, with the exception of the first Nun. The Equalizer 3 came in with 7. 1.1 domestically and now sits at a total of 132.4 worldwide. My Big Fat Greek Wedding was fourth with 3.7 million domestically. Barbie, another top five shot with 3.4 million in its ninth weekend.

One point four billion dollars. Domestically, a film 626 passes the first Avengers this weekend. Holy moly. Dumb Money had a very limited debut with previews in NYC in L.A. where its few screens snagged an impressive 27,080 per screen average. This is interesting on so many different levels. The Nun 2, first of all, the fact that it's smaller movie, made some money. Haunting and Vett is doing good globally, okay domestically softer, as they said. Equalizer 3 having a nice little run. Big Fat, Greek Wedding, I don't know how much that movie cost, but 18 million so far,

and then Barbie being the exception of these smaller movies, now, granted, I know that right now we're in September. and this is when a lot of those movies come out. However, it is so, I think we're seeing a shift, guys, as far as how movies and different movies, people, what they want to see in the movie theater now. And not just that. It's not really even that. I think we're seeing a shift with the idea and the realization,

and I think Bob Eiger said this at one point, we've been saying on this show for a while, and a lot of you guys have been saying it in the comments, these massive, ridiculous budgets, that are $200 to $350 million, just hoping to get that billion dollar thing. I think those days, for the most part, should be put in the can. I think it should be done. Now you're going to get some.

You're going to get some inside of a franchise that try to keep doing that. That it rewards, if I think, look, the last one, people, we spent that kind of money, and we made that billion, so let's take a shot with doing the next one. That's still going to happen from the time to time. But I always use Indiana Jones as an example. In what world should Indiana Jones have been $300 million? And as much money as the Fast and Furious monies have made $360 million, whatever it cost to make that last money, you're asking for trouble. You're asking for trouble because even in the franchise like that where people have come out to see it, it's like you start, eventually people go, I've seen this so many times.

I've spent money on the next one. And it's still, I think he made like $700 million or whatever it was, or $600, $700,000, I don't know, whatever it made. But it still, it didn't make money. From what I post at one point, I thought that it did. And people were like, no, it didn't even come close to making money. It either lost money or broke even or whatever. And that's not what they're looking for.

So it's like, and I get when you have a movie like with Fast and Furious, of course, because you have the amount of star power now that contracts, when you get 10 films into a franchise, the contracts for each actor is costly. Even Diesel alone probably costs a lot of Kashish to bring in there. And then all the other actors and the returning cast, the new big cameos. So the actors in general are going to drive up that franchise.

But it's because of those movies can make so much money, why not offer more actors points on these movies, right? maybe there's some other kind of deal you can make with them in general to do it because, and I'm just using them as an example, but a lot of these things happen with these big franchise. And I think that one of the reasons that Blue Beetle is not a disaster as far as financially goes is it only cost $120 million. Now, $120 million is a lot of money, but for a superhero movie,

$120 million is not that much. So as it starts to pile up a little bit, you get closer to at least break in even. And it doesn't, and when you look at something like the Flash, which is like $250 or whatever, might be a Black Adam, which is close to like 300 or whatever it was 250. And it's like it's harder to make that money. So when you see movies like this and when you see movies like the Nun 2 cost probably $13 and a pack of gum and it's going to make it's going to make the studio some money, haunting in Venice. I don't know how much that that budget was for that movie.

Let me see how much that budget was. Haunting in Venice budget. Let's say. Because it's the third movie. So let's say this could be a problem of how much this movie costs. I'm going to do a guess. Haunting and Venice budget. Now, I think that this movie should cost 90 million to 100 million in order for me to go, okay, I understand. Where is it? No, 60 million. 60 million. Right. Okay. That's what I'm saying. That's fine, that budget. And they've already, you know, they're going to make some money internationally and do it what they're going to do. It's not like, you know, it's not like a pulling out your hair kind of lost, even if it breaks even,

it just makes a little money. It didn't do as good as we wanted it domestically. It made money overseas, and it was fine, a little movie. Like, that's the type of stuff that is, I hope, keeps happening. You got better, you look at the, what was the other one that did,

the, is another horror film, but the insidious one did, did well, and these other little movies that are, that are doing well. And I think people are, I think the shift is coming with away from these,

I think the budgets need to change. But this is a, And we're going to start to see a shift, obviously, with October and November movies coming out, but then with the, I'm very curious to see what Aquaman does for a lot of different reasons, obviously. One is because the rumors of how many different reshoots and all those different things that have come in with it in general. But it's also carrying on the tradition of what we're talking about here. And it's just like, do people still care about these unless there's like, it used to be, superhero movies come out.

Oh, I'm interested. It's a new superhero movie. Let me go check it out. And from the casual fan, too, now it's more so, like, what does it, what does it connect to? Not just the storyline of connecting to an MCU or connecting to a DCU, but connecting to another franchise in the way that I understand why Guardian is the Galaxy. Well, yeah, it connects to the MCU, even though that one doesn't really so much yet, the new phases. But it does connect to parts one and two, it as an emotional core, and you understand why it made money.

and even like Black Panther too made money and it made money because I mean it was Doctor Strange too connected to I didn't like Dr. Strange too but it connected to the first movie the second movie inside the franchise but I think that that action movie that movie started the decline of a lot

I think it was more disappointing to people than they realize because it started to you start to see a little bit of a hit afterwards but I don't know. What do you think about it? Have you seen any of the movies that are out currently? What's the next movie that's coming out that you guys are like,

I want to go and I want to see this in the theater? Is it a Killers of the Flower Moon? What is it? What's the next one that's coming out that you guys want to see and you think is going to be something you really want to check out? Let me know in the comments. I want to hear from you. Speaking of these movies that are coming out of nowhere,

smaller movies, big stories, characters, emotion. As of this weekend, Sony's film adaptation of its PlayStation video game franchise Grand Turismo passed the $100 million mark, hitting $103 million at the worldwide box office. It was made in a production of $60 million, and the mixed review film got off to a soft start with 17.4 million domestic opening weekend bolstered by a further $5.3 million in previews. Numbers plummeted from there in the States.

However, the film has hung on internationally to the point that after a month, it broke the $100 million mark and could be a profit for Sony, months, home, videos, sales, rentals, and other reviews are taking revenue, excuse me, are taken into account. It's not a complete car crash. It's a far cry from PlayStation productions from Uncharted and yada, yada, yada. The Last of Us series was a critically and commercial smashup for two dozen or so Emmy Awards, even Twisted Metal series. Got a fan base and became one of the streamers, most watchable streamers online.

With the strikes going, it's not clear what will be the next game property being adaptive for the screen. as films based on Ghost of Chushima and Days Gone are on the way with Netflix's Horizon Zero Dawn and Amazon's God of War shows. So, again, no, it might not have been a massive hit and probably just, like I said, breaks even, barely bakes the profit. But if this movie, they would have dumped $150 million into it,

well, it's a video game. Everybody loves the video game. Let's put $150 million into it. It's got the guy from Stranger Things, put some money into it. Then they'd be in, then they have problems with the marketing and everything along. Then they have problems.

But they didn't. They were with a $60 million budget, had a soft opening. I liked the movie a lot. And I think one of the reasons is that it looks like critics thought it was just like, but fans that have gone and seen and have really enjoyed it. Everybody that I've seen have reviewed it from fans in like I did my out of the theater reaction, it's been really positive. Most people have really liked it.

I've talked to other critics and they've been more critical. But I've really enjoyed it. It's one of the ones that I enjoyed seeing the most this year in the theater. thus far. It might be my top 10 so far. It might. Really liked it a lot. It really did. So you can see it's the same story. It's the same thing I'm telling you about like where with the money and the budget and the reason why it's got a shot to to break even. Why I think studios will start doing this strategy way more. I think they're going to be a lot more and rightfully so hesitant to go for these big $300 million movies now. I think I don't you saw them every like it was

like every 10 seconds. This one, how much does that cost? 250, 300. I think this whole month of June that just happened is going to be like the textbook the class. It's going to use me that class. People are going to go, all right, open every textbook to page

blah, blah, June, 2023 when the industry changed. When it was Elemental and Indiana Jones and the Flash and Transformers and all these movies that came out. And everyone said, oh, this is going to be a massive of month for for movies and it was one of the more disappointing ones with all these big

budget so movie like grand teresaimo doing what it did again not when you unfair also to compare it to uncharted and he's other uncharted it was a very big video game in general not that grand trismo wasn't but as far as story goes you think of uncharted over grand terrismo when you think of story that's part one part two movie star power even though i think mark Walberg, who I like terribly casted for Sully. Still a movie star, major movie star, big name. Tom Holland, even though I think them going that young with Drake was not the best choice, clearly it was a good choice as far as money went because it made a lot of money.

And that's unfair to compare a relatively unknown cast. And Orlando Bloom, this isn't Orlando Bloom from 2000. This is Orlando Bloom now. this is uh yes you got hops you got hopper but he's not he's not being able to sell tickets the he's it's like oh he's probably the best thing in the movie David harper's awesome in the movie but he's not going to sell tickets it doesn't it's not not the same way that Tom Holland and Mark Wahlberg are so unfair to compare it as far as last of us go same thing one of the most popular video games of all time as far story goes and putting it on

HBO Max and you get to basically play out the game in live action form. Not fair to compare them. So it has a tougher hill to climb. But I think it's a good movie. Did you guys see the movie? Did you like the movie? What did you think overall about Grand Turismo? Did you like it?

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Yeah, The Rock returned to the WWE, and he made a surprise appearance on this past week's W.D.E. Friday night Smackdown. How surprising it was. I mean, because he was talking to Pat McAfee and a few other people before him. I don't know. Maybe he didn't think he was going to show up that night. But nonetheless, he showed up,

and the Fast and Furious Red Notice star was seen tearing down Austin Theory in the opening alongside fellow wrestler-turned film star John Cena backstage. This marks Johnson's first WWE programming appearance since 2019. the event went viral over the weekend with countless social media posts and YouTube clips. Today, the Rock took to Twitter to thank fans. He said, I was, I'm still completely blown away by this crowd reaction in Denver this past Friday night on Smackdown. My appearance was 100% surprised to everyone and this crowd of 14,000 interrupt. I was and I'm still completely blown away by this crowd reaction in Denver this past Friday night on Smackdown.

My appearance was 100% of surprise to everyone and this crowd of 14,000 erupted with the roar of 100,000 strong. Top five loudest crowd reaction of my career, which I was like, holy shit, when I walked out. I'm so grateful and humbled by this. I never take it for granted, and coming home will always be sacred to me. Thank you to my guy, Pat Mack, the talented Austin theory, the WWFamily backstage, team rock behind the scenes, everyone who joined us to go all in, but most importantly, thank you with all my love, gratitude, and respect to the people. Our connection is real. It's electrifying. Johnson revealed hours before he popped up on SmackDown that he was in talks with WWE for a match against Roman Reins or WrestleMania 39, but the plans weren't finalized.

That's the thing I was talking about. I think that Ryan Satin had posted something, and I watched that particular clip. But yeah, man, I mean, does it make sense that he would get this kind of reaction? Of course it does. He's a legend in WWE. He's one of the biggest movie stars on the planet, and he shows up, and he's still able to do it. He's one of the best, if not the best, on the microphone of all time. So, I mean, this made sense.

And it got what it did very well is it got the mainstream audience looking at the product again. And right now, in my opinion, wrestling is very centered around the hardcore wrestling fan. And there's a ton of them. So it's not necessarily a bad thing. But it's not as kind of mainstream as it has been in other eras, whether it was attitude era, the golden era. A few other times where it's during the time when, I guess I was the same attitude era, but when WCW at NWO, and all those types of things. Like it was very mainstream

and everybody was talking about it. Now there are certain wrestlers that, like people know John Cena. People know, like, it just doesn't have that same kind of mainstream appeal the way that it once had. And that's not to say that it won't again.

It goes, it always goes up and down, up and down. But by bringing the rock there, it definitely gets the eyes on it once again. And people have been watching this clip and then having him talk about it. He's one of the best kind of,

social media presence is out there too and I think that it was a very, it was a very big moment for him obviously and I do think though that it's probably gonna

if it already wasn't the lead to you know, him making more appearances and coming back to do something at WrestleMania probably makes sense. Look, the other thing too is that there's not a lot

that he can be promoting right now during during the strike and there's a lot of things that he can do right now as things are kind of on halt so there's no strike in wrestling So why not get your voice out there, be able to be seen again, get your star meter up?

Because what a way to do it. Go back into the factory where you were kind of made in the first place. Everything the talent that that guy's got and what he's able to do is kind of showcase it again. And I do, I mean, like I said, I tune in, I tune back and forth into the WWE. I think putting him in Austin Theory was a good move. He is one of their up-and-coming guys who is really good on the mic, is a good. heel, good heat, played with it well. It was funny when you see, if you watch that clip, you can see the Rocks say, hit me, hit me. And he hits him before he, who gives you shit, though.

And then Pat McAfee, who I think is also very good in hyping up this stuff. It was a really good moment, a good moment we're wrestling in general, and I think it'll lead to Roman Reins and the Rock finally happening at, at WrestleMania, the new WrestleMania in March, whenever it was April, March, I can't remember. But either way, the other reason that I think that it probably happened, and I don't think it's a coincidence, is that the Rock, I think, is pretty good friends with the new president of WWE. Vince O'Me no longer runs the company.

You know, he still has a lot of creative pull and all those types of things, but he doesn't own the company anymore. It's owned by the Endeavor Group, and I can't remember the guy's name, but I know that The Rock and him are tight. So I don't think it was a, I don't think it was a coincidence. I think that he probably said, look, come back, do this thing for us. Then we'll talk about that new deal that we can potentially put together for WrestleMania and we'll make it happen.

And I think that's exactly what happened. I think this is the step in order for them to try to get more eyes on the product, for them to do it. You take care of the Rock, obviously, and I think that's exactly what they did here. And the crowd reaction, I mean, yeah, it was fantastic. And they need more stars like this. And I hope that they, and that's easier said than done. We need more stars like the Rock. Okay.

It's like you, but I think that one of the reasons that the Rock was, and, and Stone Cold and, I mean, even going farther, farther back, Roddy, Roddy Piper, matro man, guys. The reason why those guys were able, Rick Flair, were able to pop the way that they did, and I stand by this. They were able to be free on the microphone. Those guys, and Chris Cherico, I don't want to forget about,

who's still doing it now and doing it well. They're able to be free on the microphone. And it's like, okay, here's where, We need the story to go. Kirby enthusiasm. Here's where we need the story to go. Go. And the scripts and trying to treat wrestlers like actors is a bad move.

It's a bad move. You can see them, especially the non-experienced ones. They're trying to remember their script instead of like doing it organically. And that takes away from what's really in there. Now, not everybody can do it. but I think that a lot of wrestlers have been held back because of not being able to just kind of treat it like a sport and treating it more, and we all know that it's not,

but the stuff to me that really responded is when it was a sport and they can go off the cuff and they could do the thing, the same way that Mike Tyson would say something like just raw and outrageous. Like when it feels like they're just villains in a movie or a TV show, I think that's one of the reasons why it doesn't connect the same way to mainstream audiences, but I don't know.

Either way, the Rock comes back, delivers big on this, and I think that it's not the last we'll see of them. What do you guys think of the clip? Did you see it? Did you not see it? Even if you're not a wrestling fan, did you see it? It did go viral. It was everywhere.

Did you check it out just because the Rock was in it? Or did you say, it doesn't matter. I'm just not a wrestling person. I didn't check it out. Very curious. Please comment and let me know what you think. All right, this is the last one. Winning time.

I mean, this guy looks just like Magic Johnson. Holy crap. Following the second season finale on Sunday, it has been confirmed now that HBO's winning time, the rise of the Lakers dynasty has been canceled. Creator Max Borenstein confirmed the news on Twitter saying it's not the ending that we had in mind, but nothing but gratitude and love. Director Sally Richardson, Whitfield, added on Instagram,

when you give it everything you've got, you can have no regrets. I hope you enjoy the last episode of Winning Time. I can say that at this moment in time, I am proud of the work we did on this masterful show. And not shocking at the same time. And what I mean by that is shocking because every single person that I have heard, talk about this show has said nothing but incredible things about it, about how good it is, how I needed to watch the first season, how the second season delivers, how the casting is just incredible.

I mean, that picture alone is just crazy. But how great the show is, like great. And so that part of it surprised me. Now, when I started to think about it, I can name the majority of people that have told me about this show, maybe on both hands. It's not a lot of people that watched it, but the people that did loved it. And I wonder if that's because it was just a Lakers thing, like if they did a thing on the Yankees or they did the thing on the Mets with like people care or just like New York people or just L.A. people. Or did people, it was great.

I can watch this on ESPN. I don't really need to watch a scripted drama of it. They've got 30 for 30s that are better with the real people in it or that I'm more interested because I can see. the real people actually do this. I don't know. I don't know. I could see that being a thing. So that's why I'm not surprised,

but again, surprised because it was so good. I mean, John Roker raves about this show. Every time I see him tweet about this show, he's just raving about it. And Ellis told me about it, Chelsea, you got to watch this show. And I really, really want to check it out. And I think more so now I will. But I'm pretty shocked that it got canceled.

I really am. Because, again, like I said, Every time I heard anybody talk about it, I thought it was just like this award. I thought everybody was watching it. But like I said, when I started thinking about it, I guess not, because I only heard from like a handful of people. But did you guys watch this show? Let me ask you this. When you're commenting off this question, answer me this.

Did you watch this show? Did you love it? You're surprised that it didn't get picked up for a third season. And if you didn't watch the show, why didn't you watch the show? Is it because you're not a basketball fan? Is it because you're not a Lakers? person? Is it because it's ESPN? You could see

this type of stuff or did you not even know about it? That's the most... I'm very interested about that, so please comment, let me know. I think this is a shorter episode. I think so. Maybe not. I don't remember how long this episode is yet. Nonetheless, glad to do it. Remember, tomorrow, we're going to be

on UAP Tuesday. It's me and Riley and DJ Woldridge Wednesday. It's going to be me and Mike Kalanowski for Asoka, for South Council. And we'll be doing a reaction again. We'll have One Piece reactions this week. Thursday will be myself and Brett. Friday will be the return of Winston and Coy for Caps and Cowell.

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