The Kristian Harloff Show - Was Wrestlemania Worth The Hype?! Wrestlemania BREAKDOWN

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

🔥 Was Wrestlemania 41 everything fans hoped it would be… or did the hype outweigh the payoff? On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, we're breaking down all the biggest moments, surpris...es, and matches from this year's Wrestlemania and asking the ultimate question — did it deliver? But that's not all — we're also recapping everything that went down during STAR WARS Celebration, including updates on upcoming films, TV shows, and announcements that have fans buzzing. Plus: Kristian gives his non-spoiler review of episode 2 of The Last of Us Season 2. Does the show still pack the emotional punch it became known for in its first season? 🧠 Topics include: Wrestlemania recap and reaction – was it worth the hype? Star Wars Celebration 2025 recap – films, reveals & surprises The Last of Us Season 2 Episode 2 – non-spoiler impressions Join Kristian and the crew as they break it all down with their signature blend of insight, humor, and passion for all things entertainment. #Wrestlemania #WWE #WrestlemaniaRecap #WrestlemaniaBreakdown #StarWarsCelebration #TheLastOfUs #TheLastOfUsReview #KristianHarloff #PopCultureTalk #TheKristianHarloffShow #StarWars #WrestlingReaction #WWE2025 #TLOU #TLOUSeason2 Ad: STITCH FIX: Make style easy—get started today at https://www.StitchFix.com/KHS  

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Starting point is 00:01:06 Oh my gosh. It didn't happen last night. It happened in the past and it's debatable on what that is. What happened in that main event? What happened? I don't know. We'll discuss. We'll talk about the full recap of WrestleMania in general.
Starting point is 00:01:25 So you're going to, your wrestling fan, you're going to have fun with us for the first majority of this show. because we're going to recap the first two nights of WrestleMania. And then after that, we'll talk about the Star Wars Celebration. And there's a lot of news that came out of Star Wars Celebration, maybe some surprising news, maybe not, and a few other things. Not much footage out there, but we'll discuss overall what we thought about the things that came out, and then the box office and what hit, what didn't.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And then that's really, I think that's the majority of it. We'll have a pretty hefty discussion this. week. So myself and John Roka, that's what we're going to be talking about. Get your questions in now, man. Start Roka off solid this week because we will be doing that after we cover all this other stuff. So not any further ado, let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:02:12 It's myself, John Roker, Krishna-Rlof Show, let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to the show. It's a Christian Arloff show here. Apple Podcast, Spotify, anyway, podcasts are found. And joining me on the show on Monday. As always is John Roker.
Starting point is 00:02:37 What's up? You know, I have Well, I was going to start with something. I was going to ask you because there was something that happened that I saw this morning that really reminded me of the old outlaw ways. But I think we can discuss it when it's time to discuss it because we're going to be, we're going to be discussing a lot of stuff pertaining to WrestleMania in general. Yes. So I figure we can we can just hold it until that happens.
Starting point is 00:03:01 But how is your weekend? I might know what you're referring to, but we'll see. Yeah, weekend was good. Yeah, I mean, it was a WrestleMania weekend. You know, ran some errands on Saturday, but then told the lady out, look, we got to lock it down at 12 because I got to pretty much focus on doing this thing live. And so we had a lot of, I had a lot of fun doing it. And it was a good time. Overall, yeah, really good weekend, having fun watching wrestling.
Starting point is 00:03:23 But, you know, of course, I had my issues. And I did two live watchalongs, which were five hours each. Sure. It's crazy. We were like last night. I watched the, I watched night one with my little one Sunday morning. And then for night two, I watched, I was watching. it as I got back from we went to dinner with the family so as I was getting back I was like I
Starting point is 00:03:43 know I'm going to be discussing this with John tomorrow so I want to be caught up everything that's going on so I watched it and I watched it from when it started up until um actually I've watched quite a bit of it before my little one went to bed and then she did and I was kind of watching it throughout and the main event's on and my wife comes down it's like 11 o'clock you know and she goes sure you want to be staying up watching wrestling known the week you're going to have and I go got to cover this for work she's like all right um That being said, let's go, the first things first, I want to bring up this article. And this is from Yahoo.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Because it's funny, I was just, I was just at the gym. And when I was at the gym, I was looking at ESPN. And they had like, Sina was on there and Pat McAfee. And I was like, when we were growing up, dude, there was no world that ESPN would be covering wrestling. There was a world. And now there's big bucks in it. And they need the ratings also. So they're covering it, which I'm glad that they are.
Starting point is 00:04:38 but anyway. It was scoffing at it. It was joking. That's right. But here is the, this is from Yahoo, and I'm going to bring this up. So yeah, we're going to, we have a lot, a lot to talk about what happened on both night one and night two. So as you see there, the John Cena making history in the most disgraceful way possible. And that is, that's more true.
Starting point is 00:05:04 That's true, more ways than one in both storyline. and more, but we'll get into a WWE WrestleMania Night 2. Oh, this is just going over night 2. But it just goes over all these different matches and yeah. And then, of course, you had Randy Orton and all that, but let's actually start with
Starting point is 00:05:22 Night 1. We'll go away from this for a second. I thought night one was pretty good, but it just the thing with night 1 that it seemed to me was, it seemed like a really great episode of Monday Night Raw. Yeah, it was a house show all the way to the last match. It didn't feel
Starting point is 00:05:38 It didn't feel like that WrestleMania feel. It felt like really great matches that you might. That was a good raw. That was good, my night at raw. But it landed inside of WrestleMania. And as you said, the ending of the main event is the type of ending that we should have got for last night's main event. 100%. The twist, the turns, the big moments, the things you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:06:04 That and we'll save it. But I'll say is that main event last night was disgraceful on so many different levels. It was disgrace. It was disgraceful. That's disappointing. Imagine if you'd saved up all year and you're like, you know, because it's tough times out there economically. And you're like, you know, you're bringing in your family and you want to, you know, show up and show out and have a great time in Las Vegas for this main event and for this night two. And then you get that wet fart of a main event.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And you go, yeah. I mean, they're coming. I believe this very clearly that they are coming very. close to just alienating a lot of the fan base and no amount of and their PR last week was absolutely a train wreck and then triple age coming out criticizing fans who criticize the product which has been a time oner tradition since the beginning of pro wrestling people used to stab people for god's sakes when they were wrestlers so it's it's baked into pro wrestling and so to me i think they're becoming dangerous to go of of losing relevance look the NBA still
Starting point is 00:07:06 sells out yet it's doing terrible numbers on online and we're watching it so the wwee could be veering into that space if they don't if they're not more careful well i got a text and i'll say i don't know if he wants me to read his name or not but he but he said um you know roca's take on the rock running interference in the storytelling and wd is starting to age very well after last night yeah yeah yeah christian harlough i will expect your apology in the morning i never ever turned on the rock. I tried to make the rock a better person.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I tried to make the rock aware of the mistakes he was making that his ego was making and tried to make him do better. And last night, we see the results. He was ridiculous. He was in there. Ridiculously that he was there. And again, we'll get into, the ridiculous that he wasn't there. I'm with you on that. But you then you
Starting point is 00:07:56 should also give me my props because I called it Seth Rollins joining with Paul Heyman. Yeah, that was a good it was a good move. It was, it was, it was, it So going back to night one in general, the match is everything that was going down. What the, it was the opening match. Look, Jay Uso winning the title. That was the thing.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Everything on night one, everything was predictable. Everything. Except for the Rollins, although you did call that. A lot of people did not see the Rollins. For me, it was predictable, but it was a good predictable. That one was a good predictable in where that's the way you have to go, because you got to keep punk good. You got to keep him the good guy.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And it was too clear. He's sitting there. He's walking. He's like, Paul Heyman's my guy now. He's the whole time. He's my guy. If he would have turned and then went with punk, then that makes sense. But you're already setting it up.
Starting point is 00:08:45 It's like you can't just, what's he going to leave with him? And then you can't put him back with Roman rains. It's been done a million times. But where the WWE dropped the ball on this one, you had Seth Rollins and Paul Heyman turned. You had them working together. Yeah. How do you not incorporate that into the John.
Starting point is 00:09:05 SENA working for the rock angle. Certainly. Yeah. There was certainly a lot of people felt that they were going to show up last night during that final match. And you would see that this whole new corporation with Triple H possibly is informed here. And so it becomes the blurring.
Starting point is 00:09:23 That was your NWO moment. I agree. Your moment was right there to create the new NWO. And anyone saying that the senior heel turn now is better than that Hogan, those are and should have their heads examined because it was the long game that played into that he'll turn with Hogan with NWO. So that, they did nothing with that. And so, but the match itself, it lets, the match, or night one, rather, was predictable but fun, right?
Starting point is 00:09:53 So you had Jay Uso winning the championship. He, instead of doing his normal, um, move set, which he did a thousand times over, he then stole Gunther's move set, did that too. But I thought it was a good, if you're going to end that way and you're going to have him tap Goonther out, it's a good ending and you had the crowd going nuts. There's no world where he holds on to the title for more than three or four months unless they're forcing it. Right, right. I just think I think Gunther should have held, fought back a little bit longer in the hold and tap out.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yeah, he tapped quick. He tapped quick. It was ridiculous. And people trying to explain it like a neck thing from the NXT. He's like, get out of here. He should have held the, he should have tapped out later. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, that was, that was pretty, you know, they opened it.
Starting point is 00:10:36 They wanted to get the crowd going nuts, have the opening of people going, who was eating and do all that. And they gave him, they gave him his championship. And you knew that was going to happen. It was, whatever. And then the other ones, what are the big ones that, how the, I thought that the Charlotte Flare and Tiffy match was pretty solid. I have to disagree with you.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I have to disagree with you. Yeah, no, I thought it was pretty middling. It felt like Charlotte was a bit rusty. It also felt like she was sandbagging Tiffany at times. Yeah, I just don't think they had good chemistry. There were stretches where there were some good moments strung together, but then there were other stretches where it was really awkward and clumsy and some stuff was they were botching stuff between each other.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And so it just didn't come off as strongly as it should have. And I don't think the victory was as resounding for Tiffany to get her over the hill as much as they as much as they wanted it to. Right. I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that. It just, it wasn't like one of the big standouts.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I just thought that for what they did, I just think that they put in some pretty nice moments. And so I didn't mind it. I liked all the, all the women's stuff was pretty good, I thought. For the most part, I would agree. But then, I think as far standing at the,
Starting point is 00:11:57 Fatu and L.A. Yeah, that was predictable. You knew Fatu was going to win the, the title and that was and it was good to see that there was a good match but again Monday Night Raw like great title match on Monday Night Raw like did have that right and what was with and do they always
Starting point is 00:12:11 do this night two had all the story promos about why we were here and what happened yeah yeah I didn't have any of that no night one only had a little only certain matches got that why yeah I don't know I mean if if you're gonna buildups weren't great you know well and and to that
Starting point is 00:12:27 point where you just said everybody had a grand scale entrance. And I know that it's WrestleMania, right? And I get it that everybody who's in it gets a grand scale entrance. But it's like, does it take it away, you know, a little bit that everybody gets them and everybody has the funky masks and the backup dancers and all that? And I get it.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I understand it's WrestleMania. Everybody gets, if you have a match, you get the big, big entrance. But I always remember, you know, when you had the big boxing matches or anything, or even back in the day, WrestleMania, whatever, you'd have the undercard matches and the smaller, the not main events would come out, do their thing, regular entrances come out, and then the big main event had the big scale interest that made it feel more big. Yeah. But look, Michael Cole said this a few weeks ago, and it's very prescient.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And I think people who are WWU fans need to understand this is their approach now under TKO Endeavor and under their pack with Netflix. Like he said, we're no longer about pro wrestling. We're sports entertainment, focusing all the entertainment. So everything is changing in the WWE. And the way it was before, it is no longer going to be that way of this new leadership. That's why you've got Jake Paul. That's why you've got Pat McAfee.
Starting point is 00:13:42 That's why you got Prime. Travis Scott. Logan Paul. Sorry, Logan Paul. Yeah, you've got entrances that are this massive, you know, instead of just the regular entrances and the big entrances being saved for the big people. Because that's, as you said, that's the way it was before. No.
Starting point is 00:13:56 everybody it's all spectacle and not enough juice not enough meat on the bone and so they think the spectacle is going to fool the rubs instead and and then you're not looking at the product and the product has been declining for quite some time and i think this rassummania is a is a very big but john real quick when you say that it's been declining for some time we i remember like last year we're talking about how good it was well good at how that how good that ressomania was right But a lot of that is because of what happened at the end, right? Both of those nights. You had two really good main events on both of those nights.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And now what you've got is a good main event, great man of vain, I would argue, on Saturday night. And then a terrible main event for the most part on Sunday night. So you have this feeling of like, well, where are we as a company? So now it's a bit more. And then you toss Bailey out so that you can move Becky Lynch in, which is all about ratings. Let's get that. But yeah, let's hold for night two. There were some hump surprises.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah, what you're saying, spectacle. And star power, right? Like anything else. So in night one, like I said, the things that, I'm trying to remember, like what else happened. I can run through the matches. Yeah, run through matches. New Day winning was, it was, you know, predictable, but good for them that they turn heel. And this is their first heel run with the titles.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I get it. I understand. But again, Monday night, Raw, not Russell. Mania. Right. Jade Cargo defeated Naomi and Jade. Yeah. I just like the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I'll tell you that what she will win the award for is worst entrance. What was in the world that stupid weather report in the beginning? That was like something out of like a bad indie show. But see, and this is the spectacle. That guy is the weather channel reporter who comes on the Pat McAfee show. horrible. Yeah, again, it's this,
Starting point is 00:15:57 this is, they're becoming, that was horrible, prey to spectacle over substance. Yeah. That was so bad. I thought it was, I thought it was a bad commercial in between.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah. Yeah. Then when like the lightning started having, like, oh my God, this is part of the entrance. It was terrible. It was terrible.
Starting point is 00:16:16 If I was her, I'd be pissed. I didn't mind the match, though, as much as you did. I think, like she's a full-on spectacle. Like,
Starting point is 00:16:22 the shit she was doing, do it. When she's catching Naomi up in the air, and I mean, she's, she's a powerhouse, you know. She's a little stiff. Yeah, she's good and she's a spot wrestler. And what that means is she does big moves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:35 But she can't string the moments in between the big move. She can't fill the life in between the big moves. And the great ones can do that. She has all the tools, but we're at a point now. She's been training for eight years. And you have, was it Logan Paul coming in and learning to do it in two weeks? He's a freak. And he's also good on the microphone.
Starting point is 00:16:59 She's not going to freak as well. And everyone's been talking about potential. But this is like a starting quarterback that after eight years, you're like, why can't they get us in the playoffs? You know, it just gets a little. It just shows you, dude. And we'll talk about this for night too. It just shows you how important Mike's skills are.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah, right. No, I just, I don't disagree. It takes you, it takes you over with fans. And it gets you. to really drive the story. It's why Bianca Pellaire is not bigger than she is. She is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And she's way better than Jade, obviously, but she's so good in the ring. Like they're stuck, she's just not good on the microphone. And it's like she would be, and Ria is fantastic on the microphone. And it's one of the reasons that she's so, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:46 electric and why that actually plays, you know. But, all right, go through. So Jade versus, again, Monday Night Raw.
Starting point is 00:17:54 They try to do, but that's a, that's a match. How, as I was about to show my little one, I was like, yeah, there's a big story here. That's, that's one of the matches that had a big story attached to it. They showed nothing. They showed nothing about, about what the story was, how all that went down. They showed absolutely nothing. I go, how do you not build that up? That's a major story.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And they just didn't show it. I was like, that's bizarre. Anyway, what was some of the other match? Do Ellie Knight. And then Grande Americano defeats Ray Phoenix. It was making his. he's Penta's brother. Yeah, but I thought the Grande Americano entrance
Starting point is 00:18:28 because they're essentially using Chad Gable as the new Kernango with this stuff. I thought that was really funny. But I agree with you. Yeah, it's a fun bit. It's a fun bit, but like, why is it at WrestleMania? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:39 The fun bit. Yeah. Then Strideon, Claire, and then the trailer. Okay, so, yeah, it was a glorified Monday Night Raw episode. And there wasn't any kind of, the big thing that they did right
Starting point is 00:18:53 was that they left you at night talking about Paul Heyman, turning his back and joining Seth Rollins. And then they did right, but ultimately did wrong, was speculating, oh, what does that mean for night two? What's that mean for Seth Rollins? And what's he going to do against Cody now? Is he going to make his move?
Starting point is 00:19:09 Like, what's he going to do? So we get into night two. We start off with that triple threat of the women. It's fantastic. One of the best matches of the entire night. That was a mess mania match. Yeah, yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 00:19:23 not a lot of people had a EO winning and she won it. And it was great. It was so believable. It's smart. It's smart. And the swings were great. Yeah. Well, it's smart because I was thinking about it afterwards. I was like, because it wasn't like, I remember when they had when Oscar was on that tear and then they had
Starting point is 00:19:38 Flare beat her and just suck the momentum out of how powerful Oscar run was. And then after that, she just never really was the same. That, to me, would have been the same type of mistake if they would have done it with Sky because you don't need to build up Bel Air or Ria right now. They're seen as powerhouses. If you have her do what she did, well, she's in the conversation now is one of the, you got her, you have Liv Morgan, you have all these people that are now, now you have,
Starting point is 00:20:08 now you have like those top level to your like kind of star. She's a top level to your star now. So that, I think it was very smart to do that, actually. I think it was a good finish. I agree. And then you lead the way for Ria and Bianca now to start a program if you want. and then you find someone else to come in to start a program with EO. So I agree.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah. Yeah. So what was that? And then, yeah, the spots were great. They can do they, they really went after. So there was a,
Starting point is 00:20:32 there were a few moments when like Ria and Bella Air were like really trading shots with each other. It was like those elbows and stuff. And I was like, I thought it was great. I thought it was really, really good. I would probably put it up.
Starting point is 00:20:43 It's one of my favorite matches of the weekend. Yeah. I don't know. It's not number one, but it's definitely up there. And, And speaking of which, we kind of leaped over the Rollins and Punk. That was also a great match.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yes, it was. A lot of good spots, and that's probably up there, too, as far as matches went. This is how you carry an older wrestler in a match. And I thought this is with Reins and Rollins. The way they carried punk at moments, like Punk got his shots in, then they knocked punk out the ring or did something big on punk, and he would sit out of the ring. But then you had Punk. going out into the stands with Rollins,
Starting point is 00:21:22 which was great. Rains doing his thing. And we know the way Roman wrestles is he spends a long period sometimes outside or against the corner or whatever recovering. So the styles all worked so well, and they told a great story.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And all of three came out looking great. So that's one of the ones that was a WrestleMania match. Yeah. And linked into a really great story. Yep. So did they show a promo for that one either? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It may be that you do you have the level where they don't play commercials because they do play the promos sometimes if you don't have if you don't like if you have the level without commercials you'll get the promos. But if you have the level with commercials.
Starting point is 00:22:04 So I watched I watched night two live and got all the promos. I watched. Okay. So then I don't know. No, no. And when I watched on replays with the commercials. So maybe. Oh, that's why. I don't know. Um, okay. So then going back to night two, you've, got that you open up with a big one what was the second match after that uh yeah second match after that was damien priest versus drew mcintyre again good good match for what they were doing solid match with but it it was like a i won't call it a monday night raw um match but i will call it like a judgment day type uh like backlash yeah yeah a backlash made event it's like again the story
Starting point is 00:22:47 wasn't great enough to be there and it's like again the story wasn't great enough to be there and they were just like I get it from last year from the revenge stuff too but they the one thing I will say is thank God finally drew McIntyre gets a win you know like he needed the win he needed the win he needed the win and because he always loses to everybody I was like thinking about the feud that he was in I was like he was in a feud with Seth Rollins and Seth beat him he was in a feud with punk punk beat him so he needed this he needed this win to make him look you know good and they were then they went at it they they went out it was a decent match the Claymore into the chair.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Goodness gracious. That was a great ending. It was great. Yeah, it was a good. It was a solid. It was a solid match. And I would even say, you know, it's a solid undercard for a WrestleMania match.
Starting point is 00:23:30 It's a solid. Like, you know, I mean, hell, the nasty boys and somebody else could be in WrestleMania 6th and undercard than these guys. So I'll, I'll give them a wrestling match.
Starting point is 00:23:40 What's the next one? The next one was Bronn Breaker versus Dominic, Mysterio versus Penta versus Finn Ball. My favorite match for the whole entire guy. That was a great match, dude. my favorite match of the whole entire WrestleMania for so many different reasons.
Starting point is 00:23:53 One, I had Don winning because the reason why he ultimately had the crowd behind him the whole time is because this guy is 100% a company guy. And the other reason
Starting point is 00:24:11 is that he put in, like, this is what will happen time and time again. If you do your job good and people believe it, they're going to support you, even if you're the most hated person, if you, if they hate you so much and they continue to hate you and you're telling great stories, eventually, they will cheer the shit out of you. Look at me, look at the rock. The rock was doing his job as Rocky Miami. He was doing his job. And then he turned the shit around and just owned it as a heel and people love them. And
Starting point is 00:24:40 that's what Dom's doing. I want Dom to be the next honky talk man. I think, I think Dom has, oh, you mean to break the record? Well, I mean, the record was, was Goonther, but, But, but, but what Honky Tongue Man was not supposed to even win that championship. Right. You got lucky. He was in the hallway and Hogan goes, what about him? I was supposed to be Brooke Reed. And Hunky got it and held it for over a year or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I want, I would love to see Dom break the record. I would love it. I would love to see any, any wins match because Honkie would never win because he was so good. He would cheat or like something would happen or whatever. That's what I want to see for Dom. I just want to see continuously for like two years. He just breaks Gunther's shit. Like he just does it.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I saw an interview that he did right afterwards with Pat McAfee. And he was and the stuff that he was saying or I don't know if Maccifie was there. But either way, he was, his interview was great. He said, he's like, it's been a half an hour and I'm already the best in her hunting on champion. He's great. There was another thing where I don't know if you saw this on the red carpet.
Starting point is 00:25:44 They said something along the lines of, Logan Paul was behind him and his hand live Morgan and Raquel. And he goes and they said, do you think Logan Paul is going to be a champion, you know, in the company? And Logan comes in. He's like,
Starting point is 00:25:57 you know, he knows the answer of this. Of course I am. blah, blah, and all this stuff. And he leaves. And then Tom takes a moment.
Starting point is 00:26:04 He goes, probably not. Great. He's great. He's great. And the pop was warranted. And the ending was insane. And the ending was great.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It was great. Did you see him run back into the ring? That was not called. That was him impromptu running back into the ring to go with the belt and everyone go. So, yeah, he's about to go on a face run. And you know this. You were alluding to it already. Like, if you're a great heel and the fans lustily boo you, it's because they respect your work.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And the second you make that turn, they are going to be behind you a thousand percent. He's still a heel. But he's still a heel. Yeah, right. He's still a heel. He's still healing. And they're cheering. everybody wanted him to win because of what he's done.
Starting point is 00:26:48 He deserved, and he never won at WrestleMania. He's been doing it forever. He's never had a singles title, and he gives it. The IC is a great way to go. I mean, look, you could see him in the picture for doing a lot of different things, right?
Starting point is 00:27:01 Like, I loved this move, and I love that Braun didn't get pinned. There's a very smart way to get the belt off of Braun and still keep him in the position he's in. He didn't get beat. It was Finn. I like Finn Baylor a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:14 He has one of the worst finishes ever. The double jump, the two. What the hell would? It's like, I'm trying to suspend disbelief. You stepped on my chest. Why can't I kick out of that? I'm like, I'll go, get out of the way. Oh, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I think it made me go like this. People used to get pinned from an elbow drop from the rocks. Yeah. That's true. That's true. Leg drop. Come on. That's a big ass leg.
Starting point is 00:27:39 You land on your head. I'm like, oh, okay. Oh, I don't want to move right. But like, yeah, some of my. my head yeah i will say this about dom brother i i last year you started to see the turn in that people were like enjoying the booing but dom was getting better as a wrestler yeah don is now a damn good wrestler so i think i think he can carry the strap the top strap i think i think eventually let him let him let him have a long run totally let him have a long freaking run give him a long run
Starting point is 00:28:13 would develop because he deserves it so that was one of my favorites i thought it was all it was great so and then after that oh yeah then after that we had um then we had logan or a j styles or randy orton versus uh versus joe hendry this all ties in let's talk about both those matches let's talk about that okay j styles logan paul randy versus joe hendry which again they went for that big moment of getting the public who it's it almost reminded me of honky tongue versus um ultimate warrior except he, you know, a lawyer crushed on you, but he's like,
Starting point is 00:28:46 send out of anybody, I don't care, and then call his name, you know, get people going nuts, and it worked for sure. Does it take any luster off of Hendry, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:55 for the T&A champion to get beat at WrestleMania? No, not really. He stepped in and helped out. It doesn't, it doesn't hurt, and it was nice to see him out there too. But it's connected to this match,
Starting point is 00:29:06 this other one, the AJ Styles and Logan, because that match I like, I'm a big, I think Logan Paul is, great for the company. I think he's great. I agree. I think he needed to go over AJ Styles. What I was talking to you earlier about when we started this. Yeah. So I've become, I've become friendly with Carrying Cross. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:28 And so Carion shows up last night at the, at the thing. And I'm like, okay, they kind of underused them again. And he goes to give AJ the knuckles. He says no. And then ultimately, Logan capitalizes. So did you see the thing that Carrying Cross cut this morning on the Sam Roberts? Yeah. His promo there this morning was incredible. So I haven't
Starting point is 00:29:52 spoken to him. I don't know how, I don't know how much of a shoot and how much of a work that was. Yeah. I don't know. He was been, he's been a crotchety bastard all weekend. And I think this is an angle they're playing to see how it plays
Starting point is 00:30:08 with the fans. Oh, they love for a mixture of the meta and the character right sorry making it met about a mixture of reality and the character and so yeah you're frustration type thing yeah i mean it was like it was like his version of a pipe bomb right yeah because he was talking about this why it plays into the the randy orton thing because he was saying he's like he's going i didn't even ask for i didn't ask for the match the fans were asking for that thing you know you want to use henry good for joe that's fine though the reason why is hit his wife started like touching him his shoulder like kind of like me as car it's okay and he's just like he's like not fuck this and he tells triple h go fuck himself
Starting point is 00:30:45 at the end and i i don't know i i it it was good and this is what i said to him when i when i met him he came into the studio he's doing match show i said he is so damn good in the mic in general i hope they capitalize this and they use if it if it was um a shoot i really hope that they don't penalize him for it i don't i hope he doesn't get in trouble for i don't think i don't think that allow that to happen. I think that they control so much now. I think they'd shut that down immediately turned off his mic or whatever. So the fact that they, especially because it was
Starting point is 00:31:17 on their show that he did it. It wasn't on the Pat McAfee show. It was on the Sam Roberts show. So like the fact that they let him do it, I think to me speaks volumes of where they're going to go with this and how they're going to play it out. And you say, and look, social media is talking about it all over the place about what he did. And people
Starting point is 00:31:32 are saying it's criminal how underused he's been. And so the tide is turned. And so this is not a barren Corby. situation. People really do want to see him because he's so good in the mind. He's the guy. He's, you know, he's a big jiu jihitsu guy, by the way, too. Yeah, yeah. He like legit snaps bats with his legs on Instagram videos. And like he and he's an awesome dude. He's just an awesome dude. Like I had an opportunity to like, you know, just really have a few conversations with him. And he's just a really good guy. He rude for him and he understands the business.
Starting point is 00:32:04 So we'll see how that plays out. But Logan Paul winning, I think, is good because I think the future is him, Dom, these other people. And we know that Logan's a big, Triple H is a big Logan Paul guy too. So I would love to see Logan Paul win the championship. I would love to. Logan Paul versus Dominic Mysterio or the WWE heavyweight title is a future. Heavyweight or heavyweight or title? No, title full top title.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Universal whatever they're calling it this week. Right. Right. The top title at WrestleMania made event. That's a future. That's a future. I would love to see it. I'd love to see it.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I'd love to see, but I'd love to see Logan Paul had that belt because people would be so mad at him. People hate him. That's what I mean. You can have Logan Paul win that belt by nefarious means. You build up the Dominic face run. I mean, he probably is going to turn on live and go back with Ria. And then boom, you lead him up to this battle with Logan Paul for the soul of the company,
Starting point is 00:33:03 the outsider versus the insider. Right. That's not going to happen for quite a while, obviously, because of people that are in the title pitch right now. So that all goes down. I really hope that Karen comes across on this one and work. I didn't mean to do that on purpose, but I really hope that it plays out.
Starting point is 00:33:20 And then, yeah. Carrey across on Easter weekend to knocking things out of the park. It's not a surprise. Yeah. What was next after that? Oh, the women's tag team match with Becky Lynch and Lyra and. As well on Instagram swirled after me because I saw something that popped up But he didn't, it wasn't, it hadn't happened yet, but he was saying,
Starting point is 00:33:41 Bailey's not going to be there and they're going to announce Becky Lynch. And I was like, oh, I didn't even think about that. I mean, that's been rumored. I don't know. So she shows up and the second she shows up, you're like, oh, well, clearly they're going to win. And I like the fact that, well, who's her partner? I don't even know that. Lyra Valchuria.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So I like to choose double belted. I'm always, I'm always down for double belts. I always hope that they do like something where you get somebody who just wins all of them. yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean yeah right when they wear all the belts yeah I mean you would have been in line for that if they had an icy title when she was on the that's true that's true yeah she'd have had all for Becky three belts or Becky you weren't a fan you weren't a fan of this I wasn't a fan because because you kicked out Bailey create like Bailey is a soldier of the company man to kick her out to bring
Starting point is 00:34:28 Becky in it tells you that you don't see Bailey in the same light as Becky and I get it Becky is a sensation and she's amazing mainstream star and all of that. But the same things you cry, people cry about with Charlotte Flair, they go after and attack Charlotte Flair. Oh, she gets the parachute in and fight for the title. At least she lost. I know. But John, you know as well as
Starting point is 00:34:50 I do. The big difference there. It's like ability, man. Like ability. Oh, sure, of course. 100%. Yeah. Yeah, like it. But you're also pushing back live. I mean, this is an interesting situation for live now. No, it's not. They need to break them out. Pushing her backwards. And that's not good.
Starting point is 00:35:05 No, they need to get, she's a massive star, but we'll see how that plays out. Maybe they go into a few with them, I'm not sure. You got to keep Becky out of the title picture for a little bit. Now that there are U.S. titles and intercontinental championships for Becky, for other people, it gives people more wiggle room and other things to do. Bizarre that you would have kind of some meaningless matches when you didn't even, you need to defend the U.S. title or intercontinental title for the women, which is interesting. you want to put some legitimacy on those belts that's what you should be doing um so then and then stone cold
Starting point is 00:35:40 gets hammered and jumps on a on a tv and he was drunk he totally missed the ramp to go up there which he got really came out yeah and then he hit that thing and people are coming after the woman did you see it was a lebron it was a lebron flop dude no those things those steel bars stick out from the other side. You watched in slow motion. She went like that, she went like that. She was an old lady, man.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I'm not going to question. She was an old lady. She was an older person. She was like, she went like this. No, she went. Well, you know. It was, it was a flop. It was a flop.
Starting point is 00:36:19 But you talk about waste. Yeah. He's there to tell you the attendance. Yeah, I know. He should have. Why is he not about? How could you get him to do this last night? But you couldn't get him to show up last year in the Undertaker's spot.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Like what? How? What happened? there. I just need to understand. Money wise. Is there a rate for something like that? I bet you so. I bet you he's just like, I don't really want to be involved in the story lines. I don't really want to do anything.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I just want to, give me the, I'm here, I'll be here, I'll read the attendance and I'll write my RV down there. I don't want to get involved in anything. It's possible. That's possible, but it was a complete waste. And then speaking of complete waste,
Starting point is 00:36:58 I have, I told you, I think that it is, you had to have seen a win the championship in order to make this relevant. I mean, you had to. You had to make him win because he's going to be here until the end of the year. You had to. Otherwise, what's he going to do?
Starting point is 00:37:10 And they even said it at one point. One of the announcers is like, what, you know, he's got to win because what's going to do? He's stick around and do nothing. He's got to win. So now you're waiting for all hell to break loose. The rock clearly is going to come out. He's got to come out. Otherwise, what the hell is this story all about in the first place?
Starting point is 00:37:24 And if they're really going to connect this corporate rock and put together everybody, Paul Heyman's going to come out there. And then you'll get probably, you know, Seth Rollins helping out. Rick Flair's got to come in. to try to help out and stop this whole thing and he'll probably get a hit and whoever hits him maybe Seth Rollins hits him and that makes him even more of a heel and then when it all goes down the referee knocks out you like oh here it goes here it comes okay how we're going to end with this because Cena's looking slow they it just it was their chemistry wasn't working
Starting point is 00:37:53 Cody was trying everything he could to make it work he just he couldn't and then the music hits and Travis Scott comes out and not only are you going what are you trying to make me feel right now with this. Then he also doesn't understand wrestling at all because he takes seven years to get to the ring. He killed the momentum. He's taking this big grand entrance. Like people give a shit that he's there.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And he's like, and he's walking down. And then Cody and seen to have to sit there waiting for him. Yeah. It was the stupidest thing ever. Like anybody else, anybody else. Like it was just him coming down with his music hitting.
Starting point is 00:38:32 That was one of the worst creative of the shit. decisions I've ever seen. It was so bad. I couldn't believe how bad it was. And then the way that, you know, the kick in the balls again, and he hits him in the head with the bell at Dakota, he couldn't do it. And then Cina wins a championship and he's just sitting there posing with Travis Scott. I couldn't believe that that was the ending.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I couldn't believe it. And the rock was not there. What a wasted, stupid storyline it was by not having him there. Thank you. What have I been saying for months? The yield turn. But there was no payoff. The yield turn was useless. Yes. going to be useless now in retrospect.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Everyone kept saying, oh, they're holding Sina back from cooking Cody. They're holding Sina back. So what happens? Cody cooked the crap out of Sina on the promos. The old man can't do it anymore. And that's the truth. He can't do it in the ring. You can't do it outside the ring.
Starting point is 00:39:21 You can't do it on the mic. Stop holding on to your heroes and thinking they're 20 when they're really 50. That's not the game anymore, man. And it showed. And that whole match showed it. And then you go to that limp dick ending with Travis Scott coming out, Flavor Flaves body double. like miss nobody cares nobody fucking cares no one cares and when he got in there and when he got in there
Starting point is 00:39:39 it was even messed up the punch to that was awkward the way Cody stopped it and then look it's a referee it's not a non-dq match so if he got yanked out by someone outside the ring it's a dq they were interferences last year because it was a non-dq match it was bloodline wolves this wasn't the case here so right you get to the rules it's true and like it just it goes back to what you were saying earlier about the sports entertainment. Yes. Taking over viral moments taking over celebrity culture taking over by having this guy come out. And you're like, what are we doing? What kind of, I don't know, because I would have been able to argue with you today if there was a good payoff to that. I could have said, I could have said to you. I said,
Starting point is 00:40:26 look, man, they, that they might not have paid off the buildup to it, but what an ending. And now where are we going? I don't care where it's going now. Like is he like what weird does it go now? Like okay, he's the champ. Who's he with? It's going to be Cody chasing him down to fight him. But it's who cares? Because you saw how terrible scene it was in the ring.
Starting point is 00:40:48 It was all spots, big spots, but nothing. He was running mini steps because he's old and can't do the full strides anymore. He could still pull the moves off in the Bulldog, you know, the S, all STF, all that stuff. He pulled all that off. But they didn't change his character. They didn't change his character. All he's doing is sulking. Yeah. And he still wears the jean shorts. He still is coming down to the same music.
Starting point is 00:41:15 He's just salting coming down. What was he doing? He should he should have done a full, look, say what you want about Hogan. Hogan knew the assignment when it came from like you can't, he couldn't be yellow and red walking down doing it. He couldn't because he's doing the same thing. and if you had the same attitude, but he's just sulking now, it's like, you've got to change it.
Starting point is 00:41:36 And John's, John seems a good actor, change it. I know he is. I loved him in peacemaker. He's a good damn actor, and he's gotten so much better. And so, yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:43 and the rock not showing. Listen, that was huge. People are calling him out today correctly. So everything I've been saying for two years, it's the ego of the rock. It's the parachuteing in and parachuting out. It is destroying the product.
Starting point is 00:41:58 The fact that he made no appearances. At all. elimination chamber at all. What's that? What's that all about? How are you not there to celebrate your man defeating Cody Rhodes and taking the title off him for the family? This is, dude. This is to me, because this seems like a lot.
Starting point is 00:42:16 This is the kind of shit that was going down in the later 10-year events. Yeah. And the rock was there for that stuff to watch how that, you know, oh, they just want moments. They just want these types of things. And it's almost like a black. Adam's situation, right? Maybe he's getting involved more than he should creatively. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I don't know. But everything is. I don't want to hear. What I don't want to hear is, well, he was shooting something so he couldn't make it. That cannot be an excuse because it's like, WrestleMania didn't just happen out of nowhere. It's been planned for a while. You could have said, all right, I won't be shooting on those days because I need to be there
Starting point is 00:42:57 because I set this freaking story up. Yeah. It was terrible, terrible. He posted a video yesterday, or sorry, Saturday, showing that he was in Hawaii. And he was basically, I'm in Hawaii. So why are you posting a video like that? And then you're not showing up to WrestleMania next day.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And I see some people in the chat, you know, who are saying like, oh, he told us he didn't want to help. He told us what he was. This is a business, okay? And you don't want to piss off the fans. You bring Travis stop, you don't bring the rock. That's stupid business. You don't under deliver to the fans and go, well, we told you he wasn't going to give you what he wanted.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Great. Guess what? We're not going to watch anymore. Thanks, bud. Take care. Bye-bye now. And that's the mistake you make when you run this dumb shit and say like, oh, well, he told us what he was going to do. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah. Someone said, like Jared Dyer said, Rock went to next, NXT bad blood and rumble, but he can't make it through mania. Yeah, I don't get it. I don't get it. I really, I really don't understand. They're going to try to retro, retro, whatever, retrofit it and claim something. to bring him in tonight. You better bring him in tonight.
Starting point is 00:44:02 And then say, congratulations, buddy, you stuck to the plan and you did it without me and whatever, whatever you have to do and then say it was all part of the plan. Whatever you have to do, because they've pivoted before and the fans will buy it and they, oh, see, it was part of the plan. Make it good.
Starting point is 00:44:16 No one cares, right? Just make it good. Now you have an opportunity. Peace together, Paul Heyman and make your NWO down. You can still, you still got a shot to do it. It's not a little too late because it could still work. if you really start to do it.
Starting point is 00:44:30 But if it's just Sina, running a, because I think Travis Scott needs to be gone for. I mean, that entrance, I was getting so pissed off of that entrance. Okay, here he is. Because I figured he would come in and then the Rock would come in and something else like that's like, again, the former, like where Dennis Rodman was in the NWO. I won't.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Okay, fine. That's whatever. But he's doing this long, stupid entrance. Like, what are you doing? Like, go to the ring. Go to the ring. You can still, it's like no one, you're not, you're not fighting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:01 It's like all these other people had, it was super frustrating. So anyway, overall, I think that there were some good matches, but I think, I think they dropped the ball in this year's Russell, maybe. 100%. And, you know, people are saying, like, people are still watching. Raw's numbers are down 35% since they've made the move. And so, you know, these are, these are legitimate things that are happening. People are turning away from stuff if they're not satisfied with it anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Yeah. I mean, I think to me, I feel like that's harsh. I feel like that's going to be like a, this is what wrestling always is. They have the ups and the downs. And today, yeah, today is, today is, okay, that wasn't a great wrestling. I mean, the next year's the best one that they ever had. And they had a build to. It's not, it's just how the business works.
Starting point is 00:45:44 So I'm like, but there are ways to turn it around. But you've got what Triple H was doing so well is building characters and building those stories. And I hope that that continues and happens because they, And he is building up other talent. I mean, I'll give them that. I mean, there's a lot of, you look at Sky. You look at Paul, you look at Breaker. You look at, there's something at Fattu.
Starting point is 00:46:04 There's tons of people that they're building right now. So it's like they've got a lot of, they've got a lot of options. Potential. Tons of potential. Tons of potential. I just hope that they make it work. All right, listen, that's our WrestleMania recap. Thanks for joining.
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Starting point is 00:48:27 Oh! And there are... He was in Japan? I didn't know he was in Japan. No, he wasn't, he wasn't, but he, but he would, he was paying attention what was going on. I will say, look, as much as we've been kind of tough and stuff on, uh, on Star Wars recently and everything too, um, they, they had some news.
Starting point is 00:48:45 They had some things. They had some announcements and other things. And they did wind up doing stuff with Sean Levy's movie and they officially announced it at Ryan Gosling and other things of that nature. How much stuff that, you the time. Taika movie and all other things, how much that will actually come to fruition. Who the hell knows? But IGN did a whole thing in the Star Wars Celebration, Japan.
Starting point is 00:49:05 The biggest news and moments from Star Wars Celebration will go into that because that was big. So the future of the galaxy far, far away looks very bright indeed. And they said Star Wars Celebration 2025 was a big show filled with some exciting announcements from that galaxy far far away, including Star Wars. Starfighter starring Ryan Gosling, a new Darth Mall series, a new look at Werner McCann's Baylon's skull. The news that you might be able to take care of Grogo and William Falcon, and Smelgo was running so much more.
Starting point is 00:49:35 There was a lot of big reveals, and we're gathering the ones you simply can't miss below, and we'd love to know what you're most excited for. Let's say, which announcements from Star Wars Celebration was your favorite? Let's see. What will I do? I put, let's say, I'll put Ryan Gosling. There you go.
Starting point is 00:49:53 How about that? let's say. And really, this is surprising to me. And I'll tell you why afterwards, but that's surprising to me. Um, Star Wars Celebration Asoka panel featured the first look at Rory McCann's Bailen Skull, the news of Anakin's return and more Star Wars celebrations, Asoka and some big reveals, fun behind the scene stories for the show's second season. For those unfamiliar, McCann is taking over as Baylon following the death of Ray Stevenson and the panel give us the first look image that you can see below. It was also confirmed that Hayden Christensen will be returned. turning to the role of Anakin. We knew that already. Speaking of season two, we got a few
Starting point is 00:50:27 teases of what we can expect when it arrives in the future, including that such fan-favor like Sabine, Ezra, Zeb, Chopper will be back. It's also revealed that Akbar will have a bigger part and will face off against Grand Admiral Thrawn and there will be incredibly adorable loth kittens that, according to Dave Floney, there will be X-Wings, A-Wings, and wings I can't tell you about. Hayden Christensen on returning to Anakin Skywalker and Asoka and liking when Star Wars goes dark. Same. following the reveal that he'd be returning for Asoka season two. We spoke to Hayden Christensen about playing Anakin after 20 years,
Starting point is 00:51:01 while he likes the Star Wars goes dark, and even when Anakin Meem is, which Anakin meme is his favorite. Reserve Dawson had no idea Mark Hamel was returning as Luke Skywalker. That's okay. The Mandalorian and Grogu panel, everything that was revealed. Wait, is that the official teaser?
Starting point is 00:51:16 They released it? No, it's just the logo. It's just the logo. That's just the logo. It's the logo. It's the logo. It's the logo. just bringing up. You sure? It's official
Starting point is 00:51:26 Teets you, sure. Play it. It's 11 seconds. I don't want to play that shit. The Memorian and Grog was headed to theaters on May 22nd, 2026, and it will be the first Star Wars film to be released on the big screen since Ryads of Skywalker. Our first major panel that kicked off Star Wars celebration, included teasers for the first film. Most surprisingly, the reveal of Sean Levy directed Star Wars Starfighter and full star Ryan Gossling, which is released. What was surprising?
Starting point is 00:51:50 We broke this on the hot mic weeks ago. What was surprising? Anyway, I think that maybe I think that I think that surprising is that it was the fact that they They even brought it up because there was no Lucasfilm panel Not the fact that he that again, it's the worst cut secret secret ever like the footage of mandorian grogoo was shown for those in the crowd and included shots of an imperial ship prepared to engage Mando taking on flame troopers walkers collapsing the snow and a manlorian grogues sigourney weaver Okay, so Star Wars starfighter is the new film we knew that that's May, 2027.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Now, let's see, here's the other one. Star Wars Starfighter was announced at Star Wars Celebration. It was confirmed that Ryan Gosling would star in this upcoming film that takes place five years after the events of the Rise of Skywalker. We don't learn much about the film besides that Gosling will play a brand new character, but the film will join the likes of those by Mandalorian and Grogan movies from Sharmin Aboyd, James Mangold, and Tyca, and a trilogy from Simon Kinberg. So all that was still pretty much announced.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I mean, I'm going to go themed update. No, no, no, no, no, no. everything announced on the Andor panel, Andor second and final season is set to debut on April 22nd on Disney. And the series had one final appearance at Star Wars Celebration before the highly anticipated episodes arrive. Okay, let's say more ambitious than the first. And let's see, Star Wars Mall, Shadow Lord announced at Star Wars Celebration. Star Wars'Lour's only announced on the Star Wars Mall, shadow lord in a new animated series headed to Disney Plus in 2026.
Starting point is 00:53:20 It follows Darth Mall after the events of the final season of Clone Wars. visions gets a volume 3 that's pretty exciting star laws gets a second story update and i thought that that game bombed yeah but they're still uh it bombed in terms of the fans were coming after it for being quote and it did it did decently and so they're adding more dc content to it yeah okay star wars outlaws released new dates for nintendo switch uh has burr reveals
Starting point is 00:53:50 incredible new dash friend dard july survivor here's anything else that's really big anything no okay um ninth jettai that short that's coming as part of star wars visions they announced that yesterday that's cool i i root for star wars visions um because to me it's the most original stuff that they've done in quite a while i wish some of it was canon but it's it's not um okay let's go let's go positives first sure okay positives first um shan levy we know that we're getting a movie now we know that we're officially getting a movie that it's the next movie you guys have been talking about it forever that it would be the next one right it is officially the next movie after um mandorian grogo right so that's the first one they're putting they're
Starting point is 00:54:37 going all in on it it seems like it's happening they got a big movie store like gosling they are going after people like mikey madison didn't get her but they're going after some some some names they're trying to stack it with some talent and there who knows what it's about i think that i think you're Star Wars fan, you should be excited about that. I do. I think you should. Mandolarian and Grogu, I did see a little of the leaked stuff. I think it, well, let's
Starting point is 00:55:02 say pause. Stuff that I saw, it looks like a really good Mandalorian episode one and two. It looks more in the vein of one and two than it did three. And it looks like you're getting some adventures with the two of them. And you're going to have some,
Starting point is 00:55:18 you know, you're going to have some, some, some, probably some badass moments from Mando that you've been kind of waiting for us since season two. And you get Sigourney Weaver in it. So there's the positives. Andor, how much of Andor season two have you seen so far? I can't say.
Starting point is 00:55:33 You can't say? Sure, you can. You're talking about the embargo, the social reaction embargo lifted two days ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really good. It's a good season. So you can't say anything you've seen?
Starting point is 00:55:44 I'll tell you how many see. I've seen nine. Nine. You've seen all of them. Nine of them. Nine. There's 12. I'm going to finish.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I'm going to finish today. And then I'm going to do my full-on season reaction today because I haven't done my immediate reaction yet because I haven't finished the season. So I'm going to do a full season reaction of it. All I'll say is this because you can't review it yet. What I'll say is it starts. I was like, I don't know, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:09 After episode two, just keeps going. That's the way of groundwork and then phew. Once you get past episode two, this thing moves. And I, yeah. So Andor is a big positive, you know, and that ties into the Asoka stuff where it's like darker is good. And you can get there. Not all the time, not all the time, but for certain things like that. I hope that they treat Asoka season two more like, you know, they realize adults watch it also.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Yeah. And I hope that they try to do that. And we'll see. And I like that. And I think that how Baylon looks is pretty solid. I know you guys broke that one too. DeRoy McCann, yep. Yeah, so there's a lot.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I like the Sam Whitworth was involved in Star Wars again. Yeah, so that's the positive stuff. What are you coming, your positive? Yeah, I would say it was great to see Hayden Christensen come back and have some love from the fans again, and that was great to have the back and forth, and the memes that popped out of it and all of that was really sweet. I love the fact that we're getting the Ninth Jedi, as I said. The ball stuff initially, it wasn't 100% on board with, but then as I heard more details
Starting point is 00:57:21 about it. I was like, okay, great. Let's see what we got here. But everything else I pretty knew ahead of time, even though it was really weird to see some of these entertainment sites crowing as if there was a big announcement. Like, you know, we've been breaking this stuff. And other scoopers have been breaking this stuff for months. So there wasn't too much announced that I would say that was surprised. To be fair, it became official. It became official. Fine. Yes, it became official. Which is, which is good. I mean, look, it means that the like now as far as the are lighter though. Okay, there we go ahead, please.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I don't like the title. I don't know what the movie is yet. Yeah, I just don't know what the movie is yet to judge on it, but I like what they do with it as far as, I like that Mangold, I'll say positive. I like the Mangold's movie, still part of it. What they have said is that, you know, these movies that, the rumor of the Kinberg, they pretty much confirmed,
Starting point is 00:58:14 the stuff they said, these movies that they announced before, they didn't, they, the announcement that they're still going through with is a positive. It is a positive. It means you're going to get a lot of stuff if they continue with it. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:27 The negatives. Okay. We'll start with Darth Mall. As I say, what I think that I love, that Whitwer is more involved. He's a producer on the show, and in fact that he's got such a hold on that character.
Starting point is 00:58:42 My negative with that is, can we get out of the Filoni Clone War stuff? Can we sue any animation? That's not. Flonny Clone Wars. We're doing Darth Mall again. Use that and put it, do the old republic. That's Sam, we're be, be part of like, you know, something else. We're doing Darth Mall again. We know what happens. We know how he dies. We know that all this other stuff. Are you going to lead? Or do a Darth Mall thing like right after solo and show me what
Starting point is 00:59:10 the hell happens there because you're never going to finish it up. Maybe they do that. Maybe they do that. But Sam gets it. He understands Star Wars. So you should be happy there. But I'm just so tired of everything be like it's pheloney star wars it's not it's not it's not it's not star everyone's this is floney star wars in animation you're not allowed to make stuff unless it's in his time period it's exhausting that's why i was initially not that excited about the announcement i'm like they keep crowing how they're going to move away from the skywalker storyline and doth mall is right in the anagan skywalker storyline we've seen doth mall used so many times and it just becomes a point where it's like how many more things do we need to see with mall?
Starting point is 00:59:50 Like they're going, again, I don't think any of the announcements were daring. I don't think there's anything bold that was announced. It's very safe Star Wars celebration. Don't want to piss anybody off. Keep everything cool. You know, we're still working on all these different films. So that's still happening.
Starting point is 01:00:06 So for those of you who want this kind of stuff, you should be happy. For those of you who don't want this stuff, you probably suspect that we're not going to finish all this stuff. So they try to cover all their bases. And they got out of their unscathed, relatively unscathed. The negative, again, yeah, Tiger Watiti and the Troy movie,
Starting point is 01:00:29 why are we still doing these movies? And the Kinberg movie. Like, why are you, even though, like I said, the counter to my point before, like, well, you know, you said you're doing, you're going forward with it. It's like, why? Focus on the other movies you're doing first.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Focus on the, on, like, what you have, have you learned nothing? though because what I would have been okay like one more like okay listen either the Chanoi movie or the Mangled movie or whatever it is our next movie after Kenberg is this and that's it don't tell me the other movies you have
Starting point is 01:01:02 working on because we don't even necessarily know those are going to happen so that to me is okay as far as Assoca goes like I said I like the fact that I love the fact Hayden's coming back I was when I was watching season one And I think I kind of got it coolated into that season a little more because I really liked the first two episodes and there was a couple episodes that I really liked.
Starting point is 01:01:23 And then on a rewatch, I'm like, it's, it's such, like, it's a, it's, it's really badly written. It's really badly written.
Starting point is 01:01:32 It's very, it seems like, you know, like there are certain things that you can do and animated that work and play because you can, it's just your eyes train differently when you're watching animated that don't work in live action.
Starting point is 01:01:46 And, And Philoni's making animated show still when he's doing live action. Sabine hasn't evolved at all from being a teenager to a 30-year-old woman. She's acting exactly the same. There's just certain things. I hope that they got someone in there that can actually write the scripts. But they said, Faloni's writing all the scripts again. To me, that goes on now.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah. So, and hopefully they make it darker, but I'm not sure. As far as the, the Mandalorian Grogu's stuff, as I said, the positives are looking like season one and two. You know, the, you know, what the negative is? it looks like season one and two it looks like a TV it was like a TV show yeah they said they're shooting at IMAX but you know we'll see once the trailer
Starting point is 01:02:24 actually comes out because yeah it was leaked some people took yeah even though not supposed to some people took videos of those well that was the other negative thing yeah your movie's coming out in a year that is such a philoney move of like oh we're not this is just for the people in the crowd
Starting point is 01:02:40 you need to get people talking about this film it's a teaser show it show it to everybody like they do a comic cons like Marvel does. What are you doing? I don't think he understands that Star Wars today is not Star Wars of 10 years ago. I really don't. I really still thinks he still thinks that Star Wars is up here. He really does. He's in that bubble of thinking it's still a premier brand when in fact it's a brand that's slowly sinking. It's like number four. It's like number four right now. Yeah. It is it's not it's not a top tier thing. But it can be if you do things right. But.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Right. Anyway, so anything else there, John, as far as the negatives? No, I think that was pretty much it. I just felt it was a safe, overall a safe one. So for me, that is a negative, that there was nothing bold announced, nothing really daring or interesting or, you know, and this is this is where they're at now. It's just trying to make everybody happy and try not to upset anybody and get out of there. And so I thought that was a shame overall, you know. All right. Well, I ask you guys, what do you think about Star Wars celebration? what do you think about the recap in general? What do you think about the things?
Starting point is 01:03:47 What are your positives? What are your negatives? Put them in there. And thank you to guys. If you haven't already, I have the Star, the Christian Harlov, Clips channel, which I've seen a lot of people signing up for. And if you're not able to watch this show live every day, and you can't watch it on the replay, but you're like, well, I just, I want to watch certain segments.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Well, all the segments are available. You just have to go into the search bar, go to Christian Harlow Clips. and subscribe to that channel. We're right now, I think we're like 8,000 subscribers over there. So if you guys subscribe, we're trying to get to 10,000. That would be great. So go ahead, sign up, and I appreciate it. All right, John, let's get to the box office and we'll get to the question.
Starting point is 01:04:28 The box office this weekend, you got sinners coming in at number one at 45 million. Minecraft, again, at 41. The King of Kings and Easter weekend, 17.3, the amateur at 7.2, warfare pulling in 4.9. So let's start with Minecraft. And Minecraft right now is at 720 million. I think our question of whether it was last week or the week before of whether or not it was going to hit a billion. I think that's inevitable at some point. It will. Now sinners, 61 million worldwide so far. I think word or mouth will help this one also. It's $90 million budget. I saw some silly variety
Starting point is 01:05:11 article already questioning it. And it's like the movie just, it just came out. 60 million is a pretty damn good opening. Yeah. I don't know who's one of the things over there. Pretty dumb. So sinners wins the weekend at 60. And then yeah, the King and Kings, obviously that's a very smart time to put that movie out during the two weeks. It doesn't surprise me that it made 16 million. Warfare, it's funny because warfare is starting to catch on.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Yeah, my friend, my friend yesterday, who I mentioned on the show, I used him as a barometer of the like the average everyday person who doesn't hear about things and it's like, you know, mainstream stuff. I was, we went, we were watching the Knicks game the other night. And when we were sitting down, he's like, he's like, I really want to see warfare. And I was like, you know about that movie? He's like, yeah, I want to see it. And he's telling me why everything was going on with. And I was like, and I told me, I said, it's not that kind of movie. I was like, it's not just like a, he's like, no, no, I know.
Starting point is 01:06:06 it's like a pretty like a war movie like like iraq war is that it's iraq war right and and so um so anyway um that movie doesn't surprise me that it's starting to word of mouth do pretty well but you look at this whole list john what what uh what stands out well i mean i think the sinners thing is you have to give a lot of love here i mean 60 million worldwide i think it's a broke jordan peels record for an opening for a horror film and the fact that it's a vampire horror film and it's you know much exploring the black experience and the commentary on assimilation i mean it's a very strong film and i think it's amazing how well it performed and it is one that i enjoy that people are gravitating to and i think this one will have legs you know and and i agree with you on the warfare stuff really
Starting point is 01:06:56 happy for warfare i'm getting comments still over the weekend and today even from people who are watching my out of theater reaction review and saying that i finally got around to this one and so So it's great to see that people are hearing from word of mouth to go see a film that's, you know, was a only hour and a half thing. So I appreciate that. But I mean, King of Kings, I'm kind of half tempted to go see this because, you know, I'm, I'm Christian. And so for me, and Easter is a very big weekend for me for the things that I do, you know, aside from WrestleMania, you know.
Starting point is 01:07:27 But like I thought it was, I thought it was great to see it doing well. And it's based on Dickens version of that story. And so I want to kind of trick it out. But I think there is, you're going to see this in the box office that there's going to be more religious fair or religious theme fair. That does well. And that has happened in the history of film in the past. You know, Ben Hur, Ten Commandments. Those were massive, successful films.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Passion of the Christ. Passion of the Christ, yeah, which is through getting the sequel. So I think we're going to see that more and more coming to the box office. I hope that the quality matches the desire. And that's what I really want to see from that kind of stuff. So yeah. What I want to see is the conversation between you and Jeff on sinners because he doesn't, he's not, he's, he says it's, he's, he says it's, cooer's fourth best film. Yeah. Listen, I love my brother and you know that. And Jeff likes to accuse other people going into a movie with their minds made up or being subjected to the studio or, and I, and I agree with that a lot of the time. But I also know Jeff has been questioning people's opinions about this movie from the beginning. I know he had read other people's reviews that weren't positive. And I know, and I know he had read other people's reviews that weren't positive. And I was. And I. And I. And I. And I know, about it. So I think Jeff went in with his mind kind of made up. And so he came out feeling the way he felt about the movie. So yes, Thursday 4 p.m. PT live. We will definitely be having a bit of a rough conversation about sinners for sure. I think I'm on I'm on your side on that one. I read his tweet and I was like, oh, it's Jeff being Jeff. And I love him for it. But yeah, the movie's phenomenal. So that being said, that is the box. office. What's the doubt to you guys? What movies? Do you think, you know, did you see sinners? Do you see any other ones on the top five? What say you? Put your thoughts in there. Let me know. All right. Let's get into the questions here. But before we do, what's going on in the channel this week that they can be looking for? Yeah. Listen, we got a lot of going on here on the Outlaw Nation. Head on over there, YouTube.com slash John Roka says. We got two geek buddies reviews coming up. We're going to review last of us at some point today. And then we're going to do our sinners review, which will be out.
Starting point is 01:09:34 tomorrow. And then we're going to jump into Hot Mike at 4 p.m. PT. And of course, Andor comes out this week. So we'll have a Jedi Way review with Laura and Kevin and the geek buddies reviewing it as well. And spill the tequila is going to make its comeback this week. We've got a new logo, new video, really good stuff happened in there. So all plus my reactions and review. So all a lot of good stuff happening on the Outlaw Nation. Head on over there and hang out with us. YouTube.com slash John Rokka says, thank you. All right. So let's do it. Let's get into some questions here. We start. John's trying to get to 100 today to come up get everybody out of the way because it's such a good run with Mike and Winston and Coy come back and have the win on Friday. So let's see what we can do with John. Hank Pimp, favorite entrance of the weekend. Mine were Ria Ripley, Seth, and Tiffy. Thoughts on the El Grande, Americano gimmick. His 450 move was nuts. Yeah, like I said, the, the, he guys very super athletic. I think it works.
Starting point is 01:10:34 it's fun. I don't know if it was WrestleMania. As far as entrances go, I don't know. I was, that was the problem for me, is that everybody had an entrance,
Starting point is 01:10:45 but I was, it just, it didn't have the same effect on me by the time I got to you, I'm like, I'm like, let's just, let's just go.
Starting point is 01:10:50 I think Ria's was pretty good, though. So yeah, I'll go Ria. I didn't really, the entrances didn't, there was just everybody had one, so it was less special for me.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I like Bianca's the double Dutch and having her daughter or step out of it, I thought was really cool and all of them having the long braid, which I thought was really fun. I grew the with the Ria's entrance as well. They had great mentions. The worst one was Cody's. What the hell were you doing with a bunch of motorcycles and the rock music?
Starting point is 01:11:18 Bro, you don't need any of that. Just coming out with your song, bro. Yeah, I know. Shane Markle, I mean, I meant it's Ryan Cougar, so I expected to have a good, did we miss something here? Oh, wait, no. No, no, it starts with this. Sinners felt extremely impactful for me. It's not a perfect film.
Starting point is 01:11:34 I would have liked to understand more about the vampler, but it's a four out of five for me. And I mean, I mean, it's Ryan Coogler, so I expected to have a good time, but I walked out of the theater and didn't speak for nearly 15 minutes after viewing. I know that's, I told, so my wife and I are gonna do,
Starting point is 01:11:47 when it comes out on digital, I said, well, why don't you're trying to find some stuff for her to for due reactions and stuff too? And I said, that would be a good one for her because I said, it's not just a vampire movie. There's so much more to it. And like, you really, like, they set the characters up so well that it's just,
Starting point is 01:12:03 and the story in general. So that's one that I think would work for her to watch. But yeah, I agree with Shea. I think you're just like kind of locked into it all the time. Yeah. This is what to me indicates the great ones. When you have to like sit with them for a little bit to really process everything Ryan was trying to say, which is more than just the vampire movie.
Starting point is 01:12:23 It was it's about assimilation and how the black culture retains itself when trying to, you know, ingratiate itself with the white culture and how about the white culture tries to steal things from certain cultures and tries to take them over. So there's a lot of commentary throughout the movie. And even if you don't care about the commentary, it works straight up as just a vampire film and the way they lay the groundwork. Don't beat you over the head with it. Don't. No, it's there if you want to catch it.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Simon's section. Christian, John, I watched sinners and it was so nice. I saw it twice. And yes, on IMAX. Itching to see a prequel about the twins and their endeavors in Chicago. That'd be great. We're spin off about the native vampire hunters. Who knows about vampires. I think that would be great.
Starting point is 01:13:06 I say the same thing, though, about that as I do with the other stuff, like Black Panther and even Creed, I want to see Ryan Cougar stretch out and keep giving original new things. Yeah, I agree. And it was disappointing to hear over the weekend that he's going to go back to do the X-Files, do a version of the X-Miles. He's not producing it, though, right? Yeah, but still.
Starting point is 01:13:28 He's a pretty original, buddy. He's producing it. I don't, I don't. mind that i don't mind that if he's if all of his time is going there and it means he's taken away from doing original movies then i'm going to echo your sentiments but hey look jordan peel a lot of people i mean look at all the shit spillberg produces people produce a lot of stuff so uh that doesn't bother me to me shame arkell keeping the story as is what would you have added to improve the film mine would be more vampire lore and a bit more of the natives involvement um you know i'm not going to do that
Starting point is 01:13:59 because I'm not Ryan Coogler. I'm not, you know, I don't, I can even pretend to try to tell Ryan Coogler what I think could improve his story and his version on it in, in general, for me, for the movie that I saw. Because I, there are certain times, there are certain times, obviously for what we do, like, oh, you know, it's been great if you see this, this, this, this and this. But I loved the movie.
Starting point is 01:14:22 I mean, I'm sure you could say, like, there's certain things. I'll go with you, Shane. Let me, you explored a little bit more on, like, Jack O'Connell stuff and, like, what he did. Um, but nothing that made me go, oh, man, it would have been so much better if they did that. Right. Right. No, yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I think the, you nailed it there, Christian. If we had gotten to see a little bit more with Jack before the turn happens in the movie, so that you understand like what this thing represents and when it's come to threaten what they're doing, it would have been amazing. Yeah. Uh, Simon also says, I heard stories about hunters that fell from the stars and can turn and visible and bleed luminous blood. They also have a thing about collecting antique weapons, I think 30 minus 17.
Starting point is 01:14:59 15 he goes older than US I mean yes there's a world there and then the same way that he started creed and then stephen capable junior uh you know continued it maybe you can do something like that i'd like to see him maybe if you're going to produce a streaming series about something like that he's producing something like that great i just don't want to see him directing and putting all his time in the in the stuff in the same way that like matthew vaughn spent spent too much time in the kingsman world spent oh yeah all much time in the kingswin world even like so much so that he was almost it's almost like what phlone does with star wars where you think like people care about about your stuff more than they really do where like he he was for argyle no one's going to care
Starting point is 01:15:37 that i'm spoiling this at the end there's a reveal like guess what this is connected to the kingsman everyone's like yeah don't care no one cares um and i want to see r matthew vaughan do more stuff outside and i think he's doing another freaking kingsman thing probably a series you're supposed to working on TV series. I hope not. I love I want to see him do something else too. Shea my guilty pleasure has been watching people get traumatized by this week's episode of The Last of Us. The Non-Gamers are the best. Am I mentally ill? No, it's like it's like that it's like that moment in Game of Thrones and people worry about too. Red wedding, yeah. Dude, I was so bummed because
Starting point is 01:16:14 I usually get an early look at these episodes and I didn't this week. Um, so I probably on purpose, probably on purpose. So I watched it this morning. I did my immediate reaction to it, but I did my full reaction with the footage, but I got it to the editors too late, so it'll get up there tomorrow, my actual reaction to it. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:16:36 I mean, there was like a non-spoiler for people because I don't want to, my immediate reaction is spoiler-heavy, but my, this one is just, this is a very emotional episode to say the least. And there's a lot of things, like I felt one way that I'm not sure if I was supposed to feel in other ways.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Not supposed to feel that. Maybe I'm supposed to feel that. It's, yeah, again, without giving too much away, it's only episode two. And you're like, whoa, where the hell are we going now? Yeah. I kind of suspected what was happening was going to happen. I didn't anticipate it would happen in episode two. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:12 But I had heard rumblings. You know, I'd manage most, avoid most spoilers from the game. But I'd heard rumblings of this. And so I kind of put two and two together before it happened. But still, it was an incredible episode. and a great scene. And I wonder where we go from here for sure, because, I mean, the show is very much focused on
Starting point is 01:17:31 I know you're saying. How people process certain things to happen. And so, yeah, so I think that's going to be interesting to see what happens now going forward. We're tiptoeing on glass here, so. Basically, yes. Chris, awesome. Christian, did you see the people who worked on Star Wars Visions
Starting point is 01:17:46 confirmed that the ninth Jedi episode from season one of Vision is getting its own series? I'm so excited me, the force we do that. I mean, that's great. It's great. I think he's probably my buddy James Waugh who's on there is part of it too i'm assuming he's on that panel uh i trust what that team is doing so it's that's fantastic they're doing that and i'm glad that they are uh i wish that they would i wish that they would include that team in more canon story filming uh storymaking also uh
Starting point is 01:18:10 rutter london calling it's my dad's funeral tomorrow so looking forward to catch me show tomorrow night you've been a huge source strength made well carlton yeah you know you know we're with you then I know that, you know, John, you can relate. So yeah. Yeah. Sending all love, man, all love and strength, brother. Yeah. Reggie.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Reggie, bro. First I saw that said Regis and then I realized that it said Reggie in the middle of it. Reggie Brown. John did great Saturday and Sunday. Ask John on Saturday now I want to get Christian's opinion. Who has the better career, Bofi or Jay so far? I think, ooh, it's pretty good. It's a good question.
Starting point is 01:18:47 It's not fair to say yet because if you would have asked me what, five, six years ago, obviously the answer is Kofi because he won, he won the strap. The heavyweight title doesn't mean anything to me. Yeah. This title that they just really created it. Seth Rollins is still the best champion that they had. They gave it to him long enough. It doesn't really, I don't know why they have it, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Like, what's more valuable? the heavyway championship or the WV championship. Clearly, the WV championship, if the heavyweight championship is opening night one. So I would say Kofi. He won the strap. Kofi won the strap. Kofi's much better on the mic.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Yeah. They've won a ton of titles more than the Uso's. And I think he's got more than just one skill set. Yeah. So I would say Kofi. Yep. I'm still in Kofi, but I agree with you because Jay has,
Starting point is 01:19:49 we need to see what he's going to do singles now. We're going to do. We're going to do. Yeah. Let's see what kind of running has. Coffey's run with the belt was, I mean, wasn't the best and then gets squashed by Brock Lesnar on opening that of Smackdown,
Starting point is 01:20:01 which was a silly decision in general. Reggie, did you guys see that Jordan Peel produced trailer, him with Marlon Wains? I didn't see the trailer. Did you watch it, John? Yeah, I did that.
Starting point is 01:20:12 I watched the trailer. It's good. I like it. I like what it's exploring, especially the mixture of sports with horror. I think that's a real valid thing as we're seeing how people are reacting to athletes who are getting more and more of a voice. The NIL stuff has really exposed.
Starting point is 01:20:25 A lot of anger from the sports fans towards young athletes. So I think it's great what they're exploring with that. It's the right place to do a horror. Chris Graneer, Sina winning 17 killed the Pope. Also, what? WrestleMania was more like meh-a-mania.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Me-a-mania. I'll give you the only one. I'm not going to comment. Chris, reports are that Stone Cold was drunk when he crashed ATV. I don't think you need reports to have that. I think it's pretty clear. Go, pal. Can't stick around, but support.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Thank you, go, pal. That support so far, John, you're 46 with about 40 minutes left to go. Not bad. Not bad. We get to JMZ 1121. I love the Rocky films, unlike most. Balboa is my favorite. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:12 My rankings are Boboa, Rocky Creed, Rocky II, Rocky 3, Rocky 4, Creed 2, Creed 3 and Rocky 5. I can see the body. Creed 3 to me hasn't aged very well. I've only, I mean, to be fair, I've only seen it that one time, but it doesn't like stick in my mind where I'm like, it's great. I would say, yeah, for me, you know what's hilarious is that Rocky 1 and Rocky 2 always switch spots for me.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Oh, wow. Always switched spots for me. Yeah, 1 and 2 always switched spots for me. So one, two, and three could rotate in their spots forever. Like those are my three top ones. So yeah, and then after that I would probably put, I mean, Four is such a good kind of 80s movie of its time. But I think Balboa is a better movie structurally.
Starting point is 01:22:02 I think the fight is way better in Rocky Four. I don't like the HBO boxing side of things that they did. But I would actually put Creed after, after Rocky, I think so I probably put Creed as my number four and then you can just kind of mix and match the rest yeah I have a rocky Creed then Rocky for then number three Rocky four is your third yeah three and then Rocky three after that and then Creed two and then Creed two and then five and two okay two is two is a little lower on my list well would you was there something else
Starting point is 01:22:43 you see the Rocky Restrago director's cut? Yes, I did. I saw in the theaters. I got invited to see it. Oh, yeah. Shelf presence. Thank you, Roque. It was great watch WrestleMania without La Nation. Yeah, you see, you watch the whole thing with them, huh? Yeah, it turned out well. I didn't anticipate much. I had like 300, 400, 400 people joining me, and then it had 20,000 views this morning. I was like, holy shit. That's great. That's great. But no time codes. No time goes. That's really good. Francisco Lopez, night one was meth throughout the night, but saved the best match
Starting point is 01:23:12 the weekend. What a great match that was. Great story, great twist and great ending. Yes. Night one, the main event was, I think the main event of night one was the main event of WrestleMania. Yes. Agreed. Yes, yes, yes. It was the main.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Francisco Lopez night two started great with the woman triple threat, yes, and good matches throughout the night, but ended with a wet fart diarrhea of a main event. What that was that? It was horrible. It might be one of the worst main events of all time. Possibly. It might be. You can make a case. Yeah. Yeah. What a bummer for Cody because it's also the thing for Cody.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Cody did every. I blame none of this on Cody. No, hell. None of it. Cody did everything that he could. And after such a great WrestleMania last week. And what a shit way for him to lose the title. I know.
Starting point is 01:23:57 The shit way. This is the guy who survived all the stuff to beat Roman and he's going to get knocked out by Travis Scott in the belt. It's just so dumb. It was dumb. Christian, John, always good to see you. It didn't watch WrestleMania, but I saw last of us. was a brutal, shocking, amazing piece of television. It was really good. It was really good.
Starting point is 01:24:14 It is the question of what comes next. I'll tell you what's also really good is I just love the studio. God, I love that show. Yeah, yeah. Watch the one. What did I watch? Watch the Olivia Wild one. I loved what they did with the film noirth type thing.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Hilarious, the way that they did that. And then the next one after that was the whole, Ike Barronholz, like, war thing is going on with the, with the creative executive. Yeah, with the younger girl. Yeah, yeah. You're right though, man. He's he's, he's one of the big standouts of this whole show.
Starting point is 01:24:44 100%. He's so good. He's so good. You get to the event yet, the charity event? I'm only, I'm not, I don't have the screeners for it. I'm caught up in real time right now. Yeah. Just wait till the charity event episode.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I can't wait. Screwface, John. I was in the building for night too. It was electric. Oh, that's fun. Don't brag. You know, screw face, nobody needs you're bragging here that you got invited for free because you've got a million followers on YouTube or whatever.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Kiss my Latino butt. You know, I'm glad you got invited, but, you know, and all you can afford is $2.00, screw face. Get out of here. That's tough. I'll make them, screw face. I'm just getting them crap. Tristan Green, you're for my guy, Roka.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Match of your weekend was the women's triple threat. It was really good. I didn't get enough credit for how great she is, and Tiff and Charlotte was stiff. Yeah, I get the stiff comment. I do. I do. It was stiff.
Starting point is 01:25:36 I get it. Yeah, she was. I was kind made me more of a fan than I was previously. Because I was like, why do they need to do? Why didn't they just stick with Ria and Bianca for one-on-one? That would have been so great. And then she changed her mind. I said, I was glad that they did what they did because they know what they have with her
Starting point is 01:25:56 and they used it well. Kevin Nash has eaten his words. I love Kevin. We follow each other on Twitter, but like Kevin was talking all kinds of negative stuff about EO before that match. And EO was fantastic in that match. So I hope he walks those words back. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:26:09 We'll say unheard sirens, incorporated. I agree with you guys slightly. I overall enjoyed this mania. It doesn't hold a candle the last year, but there were some great moments. I don't think we disagreed with that. That we both enjoyed night one. What we're saying is that it just,
Starting point is 01:26:25 it didn't feel like a big mania. It felt like, you know, a different pay-per-view, a middle-of-the-road mania. Yes. Yeah, not the best, but not the worst. Yeah, as far as quality of matches go, like there were some really good ones night two and there were some really good ones now one but
Starting point is 01:26:40 like it's all about like it's like a movie how do you wrap up your movie if you wrap up your movie if you have a great movie but the ending shit people are going to remember the shit ending i also think it's kind of hilarious that they did a they released a documentary at russellmania nine which is ugly the worst main event ever and then they have this made event like a few days later no i know it's wondering what's what's worse epsilon audio hey boys love the show i really enjoyed at Russell Media overall, but it was inconsistent. No doubt, can't lie. Jay and Domgating there have been big wins at Media
Starting point is 01:27:10 made me so happy. Fatal 4 was a bang. Yeah, it was a, there was some crowd-pleasing moments for sure. There really were. There were some crowd-pleasing moments. Unheard, Sirens Incorporated, Remy again. Love them or hate him. CM Punk does not put a bad match on.
Starting point is 01:27:24 He's still delivering. Agreed. He's still delivering. He's, they love that. Please give him a title. Not the title. Not the, but give him a title. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:34 I don't know. wouldn't it be great to see him take the belt off of uh sina no sina no they're sitting cody up i know yeah i agree with you that would be amazing considering their old rivalry rivalry and then what they went and what they went through and for the chamber like and punk is going to move a lot faster like when when punk's fighting you know some of the younger guys like he's older he's fighting the guy older than him and he's taking it like that's how you win it that's how you win it i'd love to who's winning money in the bank I hope Randy Orton wins it because he looked like last night.
Starting point is 01:28:07 He looked like he could still go, Christian. He looks an incredible shape. Money in the bank. Let's get some more. Ron Breaker probably wins it because they took the belt off. Does he need to win it though? He doesn't need to play it. Don't you want to have him?
Starting point is 01:28:20 What scares you more? Bronbreaker roaming around with that money in the bank case all the time like a shark in the water. Like someone's going to destroy you at any moment. I mean, yeah, he'll probably take out because he took the title off of Jay Uso, didn't he, the intercontinental? Yes, it was off of J. Jay took it off of him and then he took it off of J. So it would be good to have him take the heavyweight title off of Jay.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Yeah. Epsilon. That triple threat, though, on night one was amazing. CM Punk promo with the OG Kill Switch entrance theme song was so sick. That Cina versus Cody was so good, but had a disappointing ending. Oh, sorry, not so good. It was good, but had a disappointing ending, no doubt. Yeah, I just think Sina was, it was the first time I really kind of agreed with John when I came to Sina that he was moving a little,
Starting point is 01:29:04 too slow. He was never the most limber mover in the ring, and now he's even more a labor. And this is the other thing, and I'm glad that they brought this up because I was screaming at my television. John Sina, you've been doing this dude for years. Why are you calling your spots so loud in front of everyone? Hit me again. Hit me again.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Do it again. Throw me in the ropes. What the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? How are you not aware of that? like everyone everyone heard those call the shots he's calling his shots i'm like you got to do it you lean in you tell him in your ear like everybody he's just going hit me again what are you doing i i did you say am i wrong no i got i caught it too if you watch my live watch long i call it out
Starting point is 01:29:53 i'm like what is he doing talking to cody and call so there were a couple times i'm like okay it looks like he's taunting him other times he literally said you can hear him do it again hit me again Throw me in the rogues. Dude. Yeah. You're not like some rookie. What are you doing? Trey Porter, I saw Sinners on Thursday with my mom. It's the best movie I've seen this year and probably my favorite cougar movie of all time.
Starting point is 01:30:16 And man, Haley Steinfeld, you weren't lying about her, Christian. I told you. That is, this is a very different, this is a very different. She all groans up performance by Haley Steinfield. There's the memes and the gifts around her over the weekend, bro. Oh, my. sitting there at one point and she says something by the train station and you go, excuse me, what did you say? Sorry.
Starting point is 01:30:42 You'll direct what now? Say what? Can you repeat that, please? Trey Porter. Also, shout out to Lars Ulrich getting credited for drums. Nice. Oh, in the movie. Right, in the movie. Yes, yes. All right. Let's see. Next one here. Hank. What's up, Hank? Logan Paul makes me proud to be from Ohio. Look, the guy. is you can say what you want about him in you know he knows that first of all he's a great showman he knows how to build his brand in general and he knows how to sell dushi he knows how to sell it yeah you cannot deny his athleticism i don't think in the history of the wb i have no problem saying this i don't know anyone who picked it up faster than he did who who could you say
Starting point is 01:31:31 picked it up faster than he did. You can't say it about even Brett Hart, who was the best. He didn't pick it up that. He was training every day with his dad for years before he did. It's difficult. It's difficult to say. It's difficult. This guy was boxing and he said, oh, I want to wrestle. And within two years, he was doing it.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Within a year he was doing it. Right. It's crazy. Who comes in from the outside and is that good this quickly? And can be, not just wrestle, can, knows the momentum and everything else and how to sell the story and all that. It's insane. It's insane what he's able to do.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Like he never thought anybody could be able. They always hoped celebrities could do that, right? Right. And they bring in people to, you know, athletes and they're, okay, maybe they can pick it up and do it. Like, you know, even when they were the Canne Blasquez, which, by the way, I don't want to get into a full-on thing here, but like bullshit that he got, that he got sentenced for five years. Bullshit. I'm, we can talk. I don't know the case.
Starting point is 01:32:25 I don't know the case. So the case is this. The case is that he was. I'm not going to give you an opinion, but go ahead. You don't have to. You don't have to, but this is, but this is it. Okay. He was, he, his, his little son was in daycare and he found out his son was being molested by this person of the daycare. Yikes.
Starting point is 01:32:45 So rage took over. Yep. And he grabbed the pistol, chased the guy, and was firing at him on the highway, open highway, which luckily didn't kill anybody in the process. but got five years for attempted murder. You can't shoot at people. I understand that. You can't just have a lawless thing. And I guess that it's,
Starting point is 01:33:10 it is the minimum sentence that they could give him. But I will tell you right now that I cannot promise you that I wouldn't be in that same position if someone did that to my children. Okay. So I know we went on a very different road here right now, but I'm just saying I haven't spoken about that at all, but I just, I think it's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:33:30 But what I will say about Kane, Velasquez is that he is one of those people that, they say, hey, come on here, Ken Shamrock, another person that come on here to do this. Logan Paul just picked it up.
Starting point is 01:33:41 He just picked it up. Tim, the great Tim, Tim. Look at that. Talk about the great Tim Sim. After this WrestleMania is clear that the honeymoon period of the Triple H era is over,
Starting point is 01:33:52 and him, Dwayne, and this company needs criticizing for this uneven booking and buildup to WrestleMania, it's fine, but could have been more better. the triple threats as I predicted stole WrestleMania. Yes, they did.
Starting point is 01:34:03 They were, the triple threats were great. Well, there's only one triple threat, right? The four way. The girls, the women's and then the men's. There was two triple threats. What was the triple threat for the men? For the men, it was Rollins, reins, and punk. Oh. I'm thinking about, I actually think that I think that the four way was also. Oh, right. Yeah, there was a four way. That's what I was thinking of.
Starting point is 01:34:22 I think that was my favorite match. But I do think story-wise, Tim's probably right, the triple threat for punk yes you're right to him he's also right the honeymoon is over he's also right and and no matter what triple h wines about oh i don't want internet critics yeah look at his point he makes here which i couldn't agree with more if twain isn't bothered to be featured more in this road to russomani of them why did he just appear just in toronto and just that his glaring absence ruined the main event buildup between cody and cina no argument yeah no argument people hate it when i'm right but i'm right more of and than you think and i don't care about you you or don't agree but like
Starting point is 01:34:59 I knew that you can see the person's ego, and this is very much disjointed storytelling, and he is responsible for it. And so is TKO and Debra who are letting him get away with this kind of disjointed storytelling. I don't know how much it is involved here either. Well, that's the question. How much was Triple H? How much was Rock? It's a good question.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Tim, also two things that's saying that to me, Travis Scott ruined pro wrestling. I mean, I don't know if you ruined pro wrestling in general, but he definitely ruined that main event. And Jade Cargill should have went to NXT first. maybe hope everyone is a better week ahead of the list of weekend she's been training for eight years at a w and wwee i think this is the best you're ever going to get from jake this is it because i mean this is this is it and so at some point like no matter where she went some people just have a ceiling and they can't get above that ceiling the world of professional wrestling is littered with wrestlers
Starting point is 01:35:49 female and male who couldn't get above a certain ceiling and no matter how much potential they had they did they could and i think jade is one of those great presentation great look phenomenal specimen but in the ring still botching still weirdly awkward and still unable to string together organic flowing matches that tell us story uh ricky gerard come on john don't diss jim can't can't tour up to the guy in the maccuffee show that man had been risking his life for the weather channel since Hurricane Andrew in 91. We didn't dissing. We just said it was a terrible intro.
Starting point is 01:36:27 We didn't dis him. What he does in his career is just there's no business why he should have been Jade Cargill who's supposed to be this massive presence. Oh, I see something coming in from the right here. And the crappy, horrible like, you know, evening news footage and quality combined with the over the top quality quality production of WrestleMania. It looked really strange.
Starting point is 01:36:50 not everyone's an actor even if you give them lines that they normally stay in their weather reports they're still performing i didn't mind his acting i didn't do things happen so but the performance the performance the performance it wasn't his performance it was it wasn't for me it was it was the production the the really bad mix of that kind of production mixed with that and it looked it looked like something out of wings world that's fair because if the weather channel did production like that it wouldn't be a network for much longer yeah it's a good point jimmy Boodie. Love the show, as always.
Starting point is 01:37:22 I was able to take advantage of the trade coffee link a couple weeks ago and have been loving the coffee. Thank you so much. Look, you know, it's so funny. I just got another one delivered to me today. We no longer have them as a sponsor. But no, we lost them. We lost them.
Starting point is 01:37:35 But they said, yeah, we saw some conversions, but not enough. I was like, you know, whatever. I'm still going to drink them. I like him. See that guy over there? Great. See that guy over there? As a LV local, I had to go to WrestleMania.
Starting point is 01:37:50 I'm also a casual viewer, so I'm caught up on everything. Night one was a seven point, not caught up on everything. So night one was a 7.5 out of 10, okay? That's pretty cool. You went to both nights? That's great. Best match was triple threat. My first little favorite was Fat Tubers, LA Knight.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Oh, that's interesting. And then night two was a six out of ten. My best favorite match was the women's triple threat, the Randy Joe joke match, in my opinion, followed by Logan Paul and AJ Style Snoose Fest. Really? That was, did you find it to be a snooze fest? Yeah, those two matches really kind of ruined the start of the of the of the night. And then we had that terrible main event.
Starting point is 01:38:26 I like that Logan Paul match. I don't know why. He's got a thing for him, man. Maybe he's good. He's good. Miguel Zane. Hey, y'all, just saw sinners last night. Liked it a lot layered with metaphors, allegories, myths, legends, Joel Catchini,
Starting point is 01:38:41 Oscar, best sound and best music. Sound is so good. And the music, I would love to see. I'd love to see it more than that. but a screenplay or something, too, I just don't see that happening. But yeah, it was pretty layered, Miguel, I agree. I think a Best Picture nomination is definitely a possibility. I look through the entire release schedule last night, thinking about this.
Starting point is 01:39:00 And I don't see nine better films coming to challenge this movie yet. From what's being made. Look, I hope you are right. But I'm so confident that you are not. I would double or nothing our steak dinner on that. There's never, I'm never betting with you ever. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. There's no world that it gets nominated for Best Picture. It's just, should it? Should it? Yes, it should.
Starting point is 01:39:25 You more than anyone should know, as we've discussed so many times, and you have had the complaint more than anyone of how pretentious the Academy is. Yes. There's no world whether, it doesn't matter who directed it, there's no world they're going to nominate a vampire movie for best. They did know Sferatu, but that's very different. They didn't nominate for Best Picture. They didn't nominate for Best Picture. They didn't even be nominated for Best Picture, right? And I thought Osphrod to is great. Yeah, I think with this,
Starting point is 01:39:53 because Cougler's already been nominated for Best Picture for a comic book movie. So I think there's a possibility here because the Academy has their favorites. You can't deny that. No, I agree. The film is more about than just vampire, right? The layer is what he's talking about.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Again, saying the mythology, the allegories, the myths, and then the social commentary, there's more weight to this film. And I think that might push it across the line. Let me see. And I also, here's a point. Before I make this point, I want to make sure that I'm right. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:40:23 As far as Black Panther 2, yeah. Yeah, here's another, here's another reason why, right? Black Panther 2, which he was nominated for, came out in November of 2022. That's when everything is coming out. This movie has become out in April. There's a lot that is coming out. I know. There's tons of movies that you probably don't even necessarily know about yet that
Starting point is 01:40:46 have had some buzz with some of these things that are coming out yeah there's there's just no i'm just i'm just looking at i'm just on i'm to be in on wiki and i didn't see nine other movies that i think well every time you know what i'll do so if i'm going to um put because it's usually the stuff that comes out let's bring this out over here okay the stuff that it's usually the stuff that comes out in um yeah november or october like yeah like late october yeah all the way to the end of December. So let's see what we got here. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:41:22 So there it is. Okay. The numbers. All right. So let me get rid of this. Sorry. Sorry. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Where the farts are this thing? Oh, there it is. Sorry, guys. So we have to get to October of this year. We're in April. Let's go October, October, I think there will be some other movies that have a potential. we'll look at the end of September.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Nothing there that I see. Okay. I don't know anything about Keeper, right? Do you? No. Okay, right. So Mike. Anything good on it. Well, this is my point, though. Like, so there's also certain things that we just-
Starting point is 01:41:59 Where are you looking at? Which one are you looking at? I'm a B or something else. Right now, this is just, this is the, this is called the, the numbers. This has been searching for. Okay, okay. So on at Tron areas, no black phone to, no good fortune. I don't know about, like, this is what I'm saying. saying a lot of these things I don't know about like after the hunt is going to get is definitely
Starting point is 01:42:19 going to get nominated for stuff that's what you think yeah I'm telling you um and then this is November okay hmm the boy in the Huron I don't know about David I don't know what that is until the one here is a re-release of an animated film the oh oh okay okay um wicked for good is probably yeah um avatar will probably be nominated but yeah I mean That's true. I mean, I don't, that's my, the problem is I don't know all this stuff that's coming out, like Keeper, all these things. I don't know, I don't know these movies. So I don't know which, but I don't know. I just say I don't see. Yeah. I mean, let's see. nominated. F1, I think, Mike, a nominee. Oh, F1 is another one too. I heard it's great. Uh, Miguel Zane. You all think Warner Brothers will push Cougar to do a sequel. Would Cougar want to after Black Panther, maybe set in the 90s commentary on the industry? Um, as I said, it's a, it's a very, it's very possible that they ask him to do it. And, you know, I, uh, you have my, my thoughts on it.
Starting point is 01:43:25 I just don't want them to, but yeah, probably if it makes enough money, they're probably asked them to do another one, right? Or have to do something else. I think it has to, yeah, it has to make the money and then you have to see what story you want to tell because I think that's what would have. Because I mean, Black Panther, too, he had a clear story you wanted to tell. And then Chadwick sadly died and then COVID issues with Shuri Wright. And so like, there was just.
Starting point is 01:43:45 stuff but i think with a sequel he i think he's got to be inspired to tell the story that's why i didn't come back for creed too right um our 58 so far with 20 left let's see what you can get john to jean's gray it's a sin not to see sinner what a great exploration of what new i p can do fact such it's just such a solid solid movie really i really loved what he did nick sarimba just saw your you're the last of us episode two vid very interested to see how the story plays for you moving forward as someone who didn't play the game. Yeah, I didn't get into, I mean, not that I didn't get into the game. I just chose not to do what I did for the first movie because I hear it's so different as
Starting point is 01:44:25 far as the storytelling. And in game one, apparently it follows the kind of same kind of direct narrative that the game does. But I would play, lead up to a situation, stop. Now it's like, no, no, no, you'll be spoiled on things. Don't do it. So I'll probably play it afterwards to sing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:42 But I'll just say that I really, there's a new character that they introduced, and I'm supposed to, I hate them. Yeah. Like, I hate them. Okay. I think I'm supposed to, but I hate them, especially after a lot of different reasons why. I hate them. I saw sinners and warfare in the last week, two of the best I've seen in a while.
Starting point is 01:45:05 Warfare is a tough watch, but it's a must see in theater. The sound was crazy. I know it's a loud movie, right? Those are my one-two right now of 2025. Shit, I got to see that movie. Hank Pimp, please never put Jade on TV again. Pritcher, wow. Good luck.
Starting point is 01:45:20 I don't know. I don't, I think she's just such a spectacle, you know, like she's got so much power and everything too. Like this, like, I don't disagree in the same way that I'm not going to argue that she's a main event person, but I mean, it's just too, it's like. Let me ask you, who's better, Bronn Stroman or Jake Cargill? Braun.
Starting point is 01:45:43 Yeah, because Bronn can tell a story in the ring. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're, I know. Definitely. But yeah, Bronn, but they never, Bron, they had an opportunity to push when he was really over and they just dropped the ball on him too. They did. They did.
Starting point is 01:45:56 He's really over. Where is it, Braun now? Is he still with the company? Yeah, he's just been injured. So it goes back and forth. I like Bron. I like Ron. I like Ron.
Starting point is 01:46:03 Nick, uh, Zareemba. OG game is my favorite of all time, but part two didn't work for Minnesota. I hope we're at the point where I can say that without being attacked. Yeah, I mean, look, maybe they can also switch things up. Yeah. No, I'm just saying people are very, divided on Elast of Us 2, the game. There are some people who think it's the greatest thing ever.
Starting point is 01:46:22 It's like one of the most genius film, show, I mean, games ever created. And there are other people like him who's Nick who say that it didn't work for them. So it's very divisive game for sure. Nick Zerima, no spoilers, but the game does give you no intro to Abby before she does what she does. I think the show made a smart choice for new viewers. Yeah, I heard that. And I think it was a smart choice. because again without spoilers
Starting point is 01:46:46 I was in a position to go okay I can understand that I hate it but I understand it but I still hate it because of what information they gave us right right Ronetta hey I went to see sinners twice
Starting point is 01:47:05 and it was fire and I mean going again it's great every single actor was phenomenal everyone Jack O'Connell was great Jack O'Connell was great yes he will. The music was a different character. It was a character in the movie for sure. The sequence in the middle and the riverdance. Yeah, absolutely. That's the stuff that I was I was raving about that stuff too. Great point right now. Aisha, what's up Aisha? Happy Monday. Thoughts on the hymn trailer. I don't believe I saw a reaction from me both. I didn't. I know
Starting point is 01:47:29 John saw. Did you react to do a reaction to it? I did not do it because I had three videos coming out that day. And so I couldn't do a react. I was like, it came before. So I didn't do a reaction. I'm sorry, Aisha, but I liked the trailer. I thought it was good. So I missed the trailer because I don't know where it was. I might have been in the city or something too. And then the way that I do these things now, if I missed the trailer in the time for a reaction, I ain't watching it because I'm going to go see it in the theater. And I don't, even more so for a Jordan Peel movie, I don't tell me anything about it. I don't want to know. I would have, I mean, I loved sinners. I probably would have loved it a hundred times more if I didn't know anything about it going
Starting point is 01:48:04 into it. Because that, did you see the last trailer for sinners? Yeah, where they revealed. Too much crap. Too much crap. I don't disagree. I don't disagree. Yeah. Reggie Brown, the way people felt about episode two of the last of a season two is how people felt about the game when it happened. It got heated.
Starting point is 01:48:23 I know. So I unfortunately, because of that, because of what you just said, it got heated, that's why I ultimately know what happens. Oh. Yeah. Okay. I don't know that. So I only know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:37 Yeah, again, I'm trying to use my words. Right. I don't want to spoil anything for anybody. Mike Joyce. Yikes, George Clooney. Where's die job? He's in a play. Why are you coming for Clooney, Joyce?
Starting point is 01:48:51 Leave him alone. No, he's in a play. I mean, you know how little he cares about your issues with his die job when he just broke all kinds of records on Broadway? Hey, who is a shit? Stop it, Mike. Darth Vader's burnt asshole. Christian, are you caught up with last night's last of us?
Starting point is 01:49:07 with you not having played the game, what's your thoughts? So I just put my immediate reaction up to that, Darth Vader's for an asshole. And my full reaction with the footage and everything will be up on the channel tomorrow. So I might push Loki until Thursday. Shea Markell. Was it me or did you guys notice Ramsey's accent breaking through
Starting point is 01:49:28 at the emotional end? I did hear that. Yes, I did. Of the end, I imagine it was hard to do that scene. I 100% heard the accent come out. Yep. She said that she cried, like legitimately cried. She goes, I little girl cried.
Starting point is 01:49:44 That's what she said when she read the script. Anthony Roball. Sanders is one of my favorite, favorite four movies. What? I guess so. I don't understand Jeff Snyder's problems with it. I think Rocha explained. Jeff likes to poke and pro.
Starting point is 01:50:04 I'm not saying Jeff doesn't feel this way authentically. But I also know Jeff likes to poke. And if he gets an option, because Jeff lives in this delusion that he's not a critic and he can call out of the critics. But he is a critic. And whatever he wants to push back on it or not, he is a critic or he wouldn't constantly read reviews about movies. Anthony Roball. Hogan winning the belt of WrestleMania 9 was worse than last night's main event. That moment, I'm not going to necessarily disagree with.
Starting point is 01:50:30 But that wasn't the match. The match was Brett Hart versus Yokozuna. That wasn't that bad. That was a good match. Not bad. The ending was crap. Right. But the whole match with Cody and Sina wasn't very good and there wasn't a lot of stakes behind it and a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Yeah. But the ending, I'm not going to disagree with you on. Shane Markell. Hey, Roken. You're awesome. Thank you, Sha. He follows that up. No worries.
Starting point is 01:50:57 You're awesome. Thank you, Shane. He's got an odd telling him is awesome. No one tells me that. Aisha, Kenya, you two fellows looking fit and trim. Keep up the hard work. Thank you. I've been trying. I'm trying.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Going to the gym. I appreciate it. I'm down 17 pounds as of this morning from the changes in my eating. It's all about the diet, dude. It really is. Armada, will Harold and Kumar 4 ever happen? You've got to ask the guys. I mean, now that they're not doing COBRA Kai anymore, maybe.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Oh, yeah, good point. Maybe. Ricky Girard, the diss is by calling him a guy from Markovie. I did say Weather Channel. I did say Weather Channel. channel. Yeah, you did say Mackie first. Hank Pym, my first super chat about Gunther was skipped.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Think the chat reset. Saying a lot of the mainie matches feel like raw matches is why I hate two-night PLEs. Yeah, I know. But the problem is that when they did one night, it was 87 hours long. Let me ask, I mean, Luke, if you're there, can you send me any missing super chats that came through? Because it must have reset because I didn't, I never saw that one from Hank. please um nathan drake the mike roka show was amazing
Starting point is 01:52:10 mike ranting about people eating breakfast in the movie theater had me dying mike ranford are legendary it's a massive question yeah oh yeah he does it yeah exactly um i got to see if he's uh if he can do another one too with you guys um yeah shame markell funny story straw hot goofy and root cooker yes he mentioned taking inspiration from puss and we covered that we covered that on the show the other um yeah last wish for the the main vampire incident. Yeah, we talked about, I can't remember. I think it was, was it you and I that we talked about? Yeah, we talked about last week.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Yeah, we talked about last week, though, that it was, that it was on there too. And it might have been, see why. Maybe it was Roxy. I can't remember, but either way, either way. Haskell 420, hey guys, seen us at a McAfee tonight on Raw, he ruins wrestling. His belt's coming home with me. They're going to have to create a new belt because I'm last undisputed champion. How do you think he ruins wrestling?
Starting point is 01:53:06 could they finally be going back to one main title and Heyman explains all I mean this I mean the way that you'd have to do it is you'd have to get rid of that heavyweight championship because the universal championship already they just kind of ignored it they retcon it didn't it's like so that's probably something that will happen but the question is what will they do with that heavyweight championship I don't know what he's going to do I don't think they know and I think that's the the question I mean, listen, I don't go back and watch any Cina matches. So, you know, he's not like Hogan or Flair or Savage or dusty or any of the greats that I go back and rewashed, so on Cold, The Rock, Triple H.
Starting point is 01:53:50 I go back and watch their matches all the time. I've never gone back and watch. So he's already ruined, quote, unquote, ruin wrestling from me. So I'm not in that goat conversation. I don't think he's in a goat conference. I don't think he's anywhere near the goat. You never really like you're a never a big fan of his right he's not he's not he's five moves of doom it's not a really you know it does what he does and he tells a great story in the ring and they've promoted him so he's won 17 times but he's not a goat for God's sakes and regardless of Michael Cole's incessant ramblings about it um they probably should go back to one main town a lot of people have been asking for that to happen once and for all but then they just there is one main title a year ago so there's the world heavyweight title which is the one right right right right right right right right And then you have the main big title.
Starting point is 01:54:33 I agree. They should get rid of that heavyweight title. It's worth it. Okay. So we do, so there were someone that we missed. Okay. And then Luke, can you give me an update then?
Starting point is 01:54:43 What that, how many of that is that we have now if it's not what I'm seeing? So Hank Pim says four letters, one word, Yee, new Jay was going over, but absolutely insane to have Gunther tap and tap that quickly. That's Tiffy's teeth were okay.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Yeah, she got one of them knocked out, right? No, she didn't. She took a picture, but it looked like she did, but she took a picture afterwards. Okay, Julius Wyatt. Also, they did Bailey dirty. I hope they redeem her.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Roco agrees. Yeah, Triple H was like, oh, she's a good soldier for the company. It's like, I don't know why they did that. Julius Wyatt. He'd have cried a river if they did that to him back in the attitude era, please. Of course they would have. Julius Wyatt. Also, the whiplash from Mania to Last of Us was nuts.
Starting point is 01:55:25 I know jumping on the footballer is true. 100%. Julius Wyatt. I thought Sina Cody was fine up until that BS finish. Rather have nobody come out than just Travis Scott. Yeah. Multi-people matches were the best of the night. Agreed, Julius, 100% agree.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Dan V-900. W.W.E. purchased AAA, which is the worst promotion in the world and employ Stephanie Baker's abuser. Conan said women make up accusations too. Just awful. I don't know anything about that. Yeah, I don't know too much about it. No, I know they bought them and they had Stephanie Bacare standing up there with
Starting point is 01:56:00 Droday and others, but I don't know too much about it. He follows it up, Dan B 900 says the women three way was pretty much easily the best match of WrestleMania both nights. The way Sina won would be like LeBron getting the scoring record on a free throat, just booked so poorly with Travis Scott's walk-in. And one was a bad show outside of the main event, which was still, night one, sorry, 9-1 was a bad show outside of the main event, which was still overly dramatic. Night 2 started off well with the first three matches, and Hendry looking like a geek was
Starting point is 01:56:29 funny. Then fell off on cliff. Sina, Cody, was so bad. Yeah, that's from Dan. And I got three from Buster Barnes here. My prediction is that Sina faces Orton, then punk, then drops it back to Rhodes at SummerSlam. Would be cool to see someone else be thrown him, but I doubt it.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Need Charlotte to be done. Clearly isn't willing to drop to do anything besides the world title and she's boring. Live, deserved more after a great year. Night one was the poor bar, the main event and U.S. title match. Glad Tiffany won at least. 92 was better but still mid-mania nxty s and d was great though i didn't see that did you see any no i haven't watched it yet i watch it sometime this week for sure okay so thank you all those sorry for any of those ones that we missed but streamer sometimes remind me if your stuff does
Starting point is 01:57:15 get does get missed and you let me know and luke will send me the things like you just did thank you it happens when i'm on though so no it happened no no it's a streamer it ld is removing these things to get me in trouble maybe dixon cider what are your favorite favorite movies of 25 so far. Well, John just said it. He's got sinners and warfare. For me, it's just sinners. And I'll say a working man, the two best things I've seen in.
Starting point is 01:57:37 It was fun. I agree. It was fun. We did that one already. See, I'm curious what Raw is going to be like tonight. I am curious to see how they're going to watch. Yeah, I'll watch it tonight. I want to see how they, how they, you know, do all this and if they can clean it up at all. Shane Markle, speaking of the sinner's trailer,
Starting point is 01:57:54 my new policy going forward is I only watch the initial trailer of a film. I won't watch anything about, on the teaser. So I agree with that. I agree with that. And I think that, you know, unless there's something that you're still not sold on after the first one, and you're like, I don't know if I want to see this. And then you're like, I'll just watch the trailer because I don't even care. And then you get sold on it. I see it. If you know that you want to see it after the first teaser, then yeah, I agree with you. Yeah. Yeah. Favorite musical number from Sinners says Trey Porter. I would say that, that I don't want to give it away. But like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:58:24 It's the first thing when Preacher Boy is, it picks up and starts playing for the first time and all this stuff that they do. Yep. I thought that was amazing. I agreed. Agreed. Although I did like the Irish jig. Oh, my God. I thought that was really amazing.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Like, scary amazing. Bitch boy. That's a great question. Look at John. What's your stance? Well, I mean, I'm not a fan of the latter. And I mean, now lacking in originality. So it's tough.
Starting point is 01:58:53 It's tough. There you go. So let's see. I'm going to get a full number on what we have here right now. We got 74. So 74 after it. So it says it's pretty good. It says it says 65, but we missed those nine.
Starting point is 01:59:08 So 74 for John right now with two minutes left to go. Look at that. So all right, John, what that we did a good show. Where can they find you? Here comes Travis Scott. Oh, no. I thought we were trying to end the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:23 No. so much. I appreciate it. I always love hanging out with you guys on the Monday. Fun WrestleMania talk with everybody, lively chat. And shout out the PLD for taking my ball busting and good nature approach that it's meant to be. As for me, you can fire me. Find me at the Roka says on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok, Boo Sky threads about my YouTube channel. Hang on over there. YouTube.com slash John Roka says the outlaw nation. Trying to build that up to 50,000 followers. I would love to have you all come over and subscribe to the channel. A lot of great content there. But thanks, Christian Harloff. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Thank you, Sean. Yeah, we got two more here. John, you got Sean McCabe's support, and then you got a bitch boy. Do you think cinema's dead? No. Not at all. All right, John, send your invoice.
Starting point is 02:00:05 See you later. Oh, yes. Thank you. Bye. Thank you guys for joining us here, as always. Thank you, John. Looks we have 75 here. 75.
Starting point is 02:00:14 So thank you. And tomorrow we got Roxy coming on. You guys rule Apple podcast, Spotify, any podcasts are found. Please, obviously, if you want, want to support the channel, you go to Stitch Fix, you sign up today. But if you really also want to support the channel, in this cost you absolutely nothing. Go to the Christian Harlov Clips channel and subscribe today, please. And then Shea follows it up with this one.
Starting point is 02:00:37 PSA, if anyone wants to see Preacher Boy Perform Live, Search, I lie to you, Miles Katten. He sings it live with the film's composer. Oh, that's great. That is good to know. I love that. All right. Guys, with that, we're out of here. Appreciate you. This is a lot of fun today. Master. 100%. See you on the flip side.

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