The Kristian Harloff Show - WB Wanted Snyder Cut Justice League To Be Funnier - SEN LIVE #335
Episode Date: March 4, 2021On today's show, Kristian Harloff hosts SEN LIVE and is joined by special suest Steve Wright to talk about his film "Allan The Dog". Also, on the show Mark Ellis, Dave Moore, Brett Sheridan, Steph Sab...raw, Alex Marzoña, and Ryan Nilsen to talk about Obi-Wan potentially having a recurring role in Andor, Cynthia Erivo & JGL in "Pinocchio", Russo Brothers new film "The Gray Man" casting and that 'Without Remorse' trailer! Kristian Harloff https://bit.ly/31PePMD John Rocha https://bit.ly/3kDuZQz Kate Mulligan https://bit.ly/3owBneT Brett Sheridan https://bit.ly/2HBltii Roxy Striar https://bit.ly/31OtGHj Winston A. Marshall https://bit.ly/3kyJPI0 Ben Goddard https://bit.ly/3e179f0 Sabrina Ramirez https://bit.ly/3ms3PfT Alex Marzoña https://bit.ly/2J60oNU Ryan Nilsen https://bit.ly/3nx0tc1 Steph Sabraw https://bit.ly/3m0ud0z Movie Trivia Schmoedown https://bit.ly/31Qwrrp Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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man, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to S-E-N-Live.
It is the Shmodown Entertainment Network.
Network?
Oh, my goodness.
The network.
Oh, who's responsible for that?
The network?
It's nice to have everybody back here today on this Thursday.
What a week I'm having to quote the great Eugene Levy from Splash.
Unbelievable week so far.
the ladies of Sien just completely put us all to shame this week.
And we have a crew here today, man.
Crew special guests.
I'm pumped for it.
We're going to introduce the rag tags first
because we've got, you know, new guests coming in
and want to give them the special attention.
So the rag tags, we start with the engineer in charge,
the man who is just queuing it up.
Like John Williams, a concert, ready to go.
Wow.
he is Ryan Nelson what a comparison oh my gosh same hair same hair same style I'm doing with some
fates you're fucking crushing thank you're doing crushing you're just crushing
annihilating the game I want to get you a t-shirt that just says crushing bro crushing yeah you'd get
so many girls with that oh yeah I was waiting for you so it's a wait a minute
joel and bd of engineer and over here yeah when you guys are all on together you guys are
fucking filthy, but here you're like, you, you, I was waiting for you to say, yeah, you'd get so
much push, bro, but I'm not, okay, the dad's here.
I never know on S-E-N how much I can pull the trigger.
Let me recone what I just did.
You'd get so much fucking pussy riding.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, just lining up.
Swim in this pool.
Yeah, take a dive, baby.
Yeah.
Balls?
What?
Balls.
Don't get me unleashed, Christian.
That's why you're on the show, motherfucker.
Get unleashed.
Yeah, yeah.
We have on here.
Moving on over.
Alex Marzonia is in the house.
Oh, I like that.
What a nice intro that is for Alex.
I mean, I love Kate and I love Winston,
and I love all you guys,
and I love Ben Godder and everybody.
And my God, these fucking people talking about Harry Potter,
and it's going on,
it's which house they're in and Hufflepuff.
And at one point,
Winston calls Dumbledore Dumbledorf and all this stuff is happening inside of this conversation.
I'm like, oh my God, I was ready to slam my head into the steering wheel.
And Brett says, you know, this is why I can't wait for, this is why I'm looking forward to parties again because I can walk away from this conversation.
And it was just such an amazing one.
I wanted to be that.
But I've given you all enough praise.
I'm tired of you all.
And I am now going to give praise to someone I wanted to have on this show for a long time.
someone who has made such a presence in the shmowdown,
someone is going to be doing more with us in the future.
And I say that because it is associated with the man I'm talking about.
He is dynamite.
He is Dave Moore.
What's up, brother.
How you doing?
How are you doing?
Thanks for having me on.
It's good to have you on me on.
You came onto the shmodown.
You just had such an electric personality,
but you and I were talking about it.
And it's like both your matches that you had.
It was like Smets and then Changeroo.
Like, yo, there was some sort of conspiracy stuff.
going on, man. Like, I don't know what was up with that.
I held my own, you know,
you did all your 100%,
so, but that was just not right. It was not right.
I loved your reaction, though, if you look at it when you
played Smets in that first match and you know it and it's like,
that's it.
That's it.
So, yeah, so Dave's here, man.
We're excited to have Dave because we're going to talk about a lot of different
things. And he and I even, as this show is starting,
we were going into like the Matrix movie because we're looking forward
that one and Dave you had asked kind of going into it, what the hell are they going to do? Yeah, I mean,
the last two movies, you know, but you know what they did though? They were pretty clever with
the second one because they had a lot of like cross promotional information stuff going on with
like the games, Into the Matrix. If you played that game, it gave you a lot to the second movie
reloaded. And so I'm wondering if now with how everything is today with like streaming and all this
viralness going on, if they're going to tap into that more so that it's more of like an immersive
experience. A hundred percent. Yeah, because there's ways to retcon it, you know, and there's ways to
shift things up a little bit more and maybe, I don't know, connect more so to the first movie than they
even did with two and three. And I don't think anybody would have a problem if they find a way to just
kind of annihilate two and three altogether.
Although I don't know if they're going to be able to do it because I don't even think
Morpheus isn't even in this one, right?
The fishburn isn't even in this in this movie from what I remember.
Young Morpheus.
I wonder though if like Will Smith was knocking on the door and he's going to come in
with like some cameo.
I don't know where it's right.
I know.
Woo!
Like coming in.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I passed.
Yeah.
I passed on Neo.
Anyway, so it's going to be, it's going to be fun.
I'm looking forward to seeing.
It's a lot of different things coming out.
And I was even talking about this morning,
I've seen some good reviews on Chaos Walking.
Anybody seen a movie yet?
The one with Tom Holland and Daisy Ridley?
That trailer had me not interesting.
Where are you?
No,
because I'm not seeing.
I don't know.
I'm just,
I heard a few reviews myself and they were kind of like.
Have the reviews been shitting on it?
I saw one.
And although I have to be honest,
the one review I did see was somebody who I'd never agree with,
like ever.
Like every,
and it feels like every time this particular critic
puts out a take at all.
It's just to, you know, do the opposite or just to get retweets or something to.
Because every single time I see this particular critic, it's just to, hey, is everybody enjoying this?
Here's my grenade.
It's like every single time.
So maybe it's the opposite.
Are people who shitting on this movie?
I just had such a troubled, troubled production.
Like this was supposed to come out in 2017.
They reshoots two years later.
Pandemic.
Let me see.
Let me see.
I'm seeing it's at a 27 right now on Rotten Tomatoes.
Okay.
What about the audience score?
Audience score.
Let me check that real quick.
I have that yet.
Probably don't have that yet.
What audience?
Where did you watch it, Christian?
I didn't watch it yet.
I want to watch it.
I just saw this morning I was browsing around on,
what's that garbage can called?
Oh, Twitter, Twitter.
And I was on that stinky disgusted in garbage can,
and I saw a review.
And I'm like, oh, it's a good review.
It's a really good review.
And then I was hesitant because I saw the name attached with the positive review.
And I was like, okay.
And then of course, it gets 24%.
It absolutely has no.
I have no, I'm not surprised at all.
I'm not surprised at all.
The trailer, when I saw that trailer, I'm like, this is like what, what men want with oblivion.
Like, that's not interesting me at all.
I'm a past.
So, and I mean, they got an all-star cast.
And I think that's the only thing that saves it is, oh, look, it's Spider-Man.
oh look, it's Ray, you know, like, other than that.
That's how they, that's how they should actually put it in the trailer.
It's like, oh, look, it's Ray.
Oh, look, it's Spider-Man.
And she can read his mind, but this time she doesn't need the force.
Perfect.
Okay, well, good.
So that's great.
So my dreams have been crushed immediately.
I've been looking at, do you understand?
And you'd rather be on the Oculus anyways.
Yeah.
You're not lying.
You're not lying.
But I, but I, but I, but I, but I,
but I, but I, but I,
but I'm, we're trying to,
we were trying to find movies and shit to watch and it is very difficult to do
that in this house stuff.
It is very hard.
I just.
Yeah.
What would that work?
No.
No, you know, look, here's the, here's the, here's the issue that we're both in at the
moment. I'm tired of miserable shit.
Um, is minare, is minari the one with, uh, with, Stephen, uh,
Stephen young.
That, that, that, that one we actually looked at the,
trailer and that that's on that's on our maybe list that's on our maybe list um we it's just a really good
movie there's a feel good movie too right know some people yeah it's a feel good movie I mean there's
some sad parts but it's just a really good film that one was on the list so that one's a possibility
um but it's just you know diving I couldn't get her into Wanda vision and I'm and I'm trying to get
her into Wanda vision she's just not doing it she does not like it um but I was you know what I did
with her I said she said to watch I told you guys I tried to watch like the first
two minutes of Wanda Vision on episode one.
And she was like, nope, I'm out.
So I'm going to go, get it.
So then I was like, okay, fuck it.
I'm going to ignore all the other ones.
And I'll go back and I'll start with the one where we're in the hospital and we see right after the snap.
She's into all the Marvel movies and Avengers and all that shit.
So I'm like, okay.
So this takes place right afterwards.
And then once that whole shit happens at the spoiler for people, if you haven't seen Wanda vision, get lost.
All right.
There you go.
Spoiler.
Spoiler.
It comes.
He does.
All right, I warned you.
After Vision comes back and he's all fucked up and he looks like,
and she's like, that's just too creepy for me.
I'm like, all the shit that we watch, that's too creepy.
But, oh yeah, that's right.
Thank you, Andre.
Andrea, Pierre, just reminded me and I brought it up this morning.
Coming to America, too, is tomorrow.
And so I think we're, and she was the one suggested.
Let's watch the first one tonight.
I'm like, okay, good.
I get to go back and watch Coming to America One tonight,
which was one of my favorite comedies all time.
So all you guys, how are you feeling about the sequel?
Does PG-13 scare you?
I don't love the idea that it's PG-13.
I think some of the hardest-hitting jokes in the first one
was because they, not that cursing makes things funny,
but it happened to make a lot of the jokes.
Yeah, they push the envelope.
And I think like some of the lines, like,
your royal penis is clean.
Like, are they able to say that with PG-13?
That would be okay.
That would be okay for that particular line.
But the one, yes, yes, fuck you too.
Oh, you do.
You're only going to get one F-bomb in PG-13.
But why make it PG-13?
That's my question.
It feels like coming to America is for people who are not, don't want to have a PG-13 film.
Alex, what are you going to say?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it was meant for theatrical release.
I think it was a money move for a paramount.
So I think that's the main reason why they made it PG-13.
It was supposed to be up against West Side Story and Dune.
So it was kind of counter-programming to those.
I wonder, because, you know,
So Craig Brewer is a friend of the show.
And he's been on Shemot's before.
And as soon as I saw the trailer,
I shot him a text and let him know how much,
how much I was excited for the movie and everything to.
And I loved Dolomite with Eddie Murphy
and what he had done there.
So that's why I thought that it would be R
because, I mean, Dolomite clearly was, was R.
Emily movie, what you're talking about?
Now?
Dude, but like I, so maybe what I'd like to try to do, I'm going to try to get Brewer on the show and, and then we can ask him that question.
And he'll tell us, he'll tell us why it's, why it's PG-13.
I mean, I'm piggybacking off of, uh, homie with, I'm forgetting names here.
I'm sorry, homie with the hat.
Alex.
My guy with the hat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Talking about fucking bitches.
No, like, I think same thing where it's like,
since now you've got families at home.
Yeah.
They're just trying to get everybody in to watch this one.
So especially because now you got parents going,
oh, I loved this.
Ooh, I don't know if I can show my kid.
And now that it's PG-13,
the family can come in and all blackety goodness.
That one I think is getting good reviews from what I saw.
From what I saw that one is.
But again, and I actually saw this time around for people that I do respect their opinions.
And I, well, I shouldn't say,
I don't respect to the person's opinion.
I just don't agree with the other person's opinion all the time.
But this one, people are saying that the PG didn't throw them off.
It was nostalgic.
It was it was feel good.
And that's how I felt when I was watching Bill and Ted, the last one.
Because it's not necessarily a great movie, but I felt good watching it.
Yeah.
And that's, I need that.
So, Brett, are you going to be watching that this weekend?
Yeah.
The big thing with the PG-13, for back then, PG-G was skating on R.
I mean, you know, so now a PG-13.
seems even more watered down than a P.
Because, I mean, did they even do PG-13 back then?
I mean, or was it just-
PG-13. PG-13 started in 1984.
And I always forget.
I think that Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
was the first one or was Red Dawn.
One of the two, I'm pretty sure it was Indiana Jones
in the Temple of Doom.
Because we've made plenty of mistakes of going like,
oh, this was cool for the R7-year-old to watch.
And it wasn't.
And, you know, so I think that, yeah,
now a PG-R-13 would be way more water down
that it would be back then.
And so, yeah, maybe I, I mean, I don't, like Steph said,
I don't think cussing makes things funnier,
but putting handcuffs in any way on a comedian is a way to make something less funny,
I believe.
So I don't know.
And if it's for new people to be brought in,
then you're going to want to show them the old one anyway.
That's true.
That's true.
You're going to see,
we are going to want to see the first one.
It's like, oh, exactly.
You're 10-year-old or 12-year-old watches the second one.
Oh, that was really good.
I guess the first one? No.
No.
No, you can't. My name is
Peaches and I'm the best. All the
DJs want to feel our breasts.
You right?
Unbelievable.
So PG-13 started
July 1st, 1984. They said
No, Red Dawn was the first one. Well, it was Red Dawn.
Okay. Well, it was Red Dawn. Okay.
Temple of Doom and Gremlins
like right afterwards.
Okay. Or the catalyst that made the
theater. All right. So Red Dawn was the first.
Red Dawn. I let me in.
I was so. I'm,
I remember when we, when they did that, that remake and Ellis and I went and saw a screening of it.
And that night, I think, I can't remember who was Katie Sackoff that was on the show, I think, with, with Ken.
And we, we came in and I, you might as well have thought someone had taken a shit in my lasagna, right?
It was, I was, I was so upset with that movie.
What a garbage dumpster fire that is.
Oh, it sucks.
Awful.
Red Dawn.
Love Red Dawn.
Oh, yeah.
Red Dawn's my, it was one of my, the 80, the 84 movies, like one of my favorite
movies.
I love that movie.
So they just, they pussyed out of the, of the, of the second one.
And they changed up shit.
Like they changed, it's like, you know, it was, it was, don't get me started on that
phone.
Don't even.
Yeah.
Don't we started, Ryan.
You know what I mean?
We were getting ready.
We were like red don and up back then.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I was like, we need to get ready.
for this guys because all our parents are going to be dead and we're going to have to
avenge me, Brett.
Avenge me!
You know, I got to get, I got my bowie knife, yeah!
I was ready.
I was ready to storm the cast and it's free everyone.
All right.
Hey, listen, we have some stuff to talk about here.
So we have a guest coming on today.
My friend Steve Wright, who directed, oh, excuse me, wrote Alan Dogg's stars in it.
Alison Haislep, friend of the show, was also in the movie.
We're going to be able to bring him on, talk about that in just a little bit.
Very excited for that.
11 o'clock also Ellis is going to come in.
And yeah, man, we're going to talk about all of this stuff.
And I also want to tell you guys about stereo.
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please join us at 12 o'clock the after show here really appreciate that and before we move on to the main story here that Alex is about to get us into
once again giving a big shout out to the ladies on on Tuesday because because of that we have we're able
already yes I was able to I mentioned you guys how I wanted to get a freelance editor to to help nerd chronic we're able to do that for all these matches that we have coming in we have so many matches coming in for Wednesday Thursday
Friday, the pay-per-view on Friday, Dan Merle versus Jeff Snyder.
We have all of these things that are happening.
And that show helped tremendously.
So thank you for that.
And what I realized, the reason we started doing stuff, I'd be all next week, by the way,
from Monday through Friday is going to be the ladies panel because you guys got them
to their goal on Tuesday.
And what I realized about that is that you guys like being the producers.
I mean, that's really what it is.
It's like where so it's the I always felt like, you know, I'm never a big fan of going out there and saying, hey, but just you don't feel like you're getting anything when you're, you should feel like you're being part of a product. You should feel like you're purchasing something. So that that to me makes it anytime as opposed to just, oh, here, take this. It's not, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. You're paying to be producers on the show. You produce to get to the flirt and flouse. You produce to get the, to get the, the award show, which we're going to.
to do next Thursday, by the way. You produce to get a full week of women hosting the show,
and it's going to be absolutely insane. So that's how we're looking at it now. You guys are basically
you're chiming in and you're going to be producers on the show. So we're going to set a,
we'll set a goal today. Set a goal 600 today. Set a goal 600 today. And what we'll do is we will do
a show of myself and Mark Ellis hosting for the entire show, two of us,
hosting for the show and then we'll we'll set past that we'll set goals on who's going to be on it so
what we'll do is we'll set a we'll set a goal 600 for if you want ellis and i to host the show obviously
not next week because the ladies are doing all next week but the week after so we get the 600 today
and you go to streamlabs.com slash the schmodeown you put in a schmobot and do what you will um
we'll host a full show and we'll we'll bring in guests and we'll set the goals after that all right
alex let me know what do you got all right yeah so with uh zaxx
Snyder's Justice League two weeks away.
Zach Snyder said in an interview,
the original plan was absolutely being twisted
during production. Even though there was pressure
on me to make it funnier and lighten it, I would
persist as much as I could to keep the tone
as much as I could. I added a bunch of things
for them and I was always careful
to make sure I covered things both ways so that it
didn't affect the movie story-wise.
It was my hope in post-production I'd be able
to force my will upon them. Christian,
what do you think about W.B.'s insistence
on having Justice League be funnier?
I feel like they didn't learn. I feel like
they didn't learn. I feel like that was the whole thing that happened inside of the other one.
It's like that don't push the Marvel tone on him.
That's not that's not what he does.
That's not what that's also not what the fan base wants to see.
It's like they they clearly went with it.
I mean, for Shazam, it works because that's, that's what that tone is.
This is not that tone.
This is not the movie.
If he, if he had a vision to say, my vision is to do this, well, make it funnier, but that's not, that's not what I, what I have in my head.
So if I make it funnier, it's, it's not the thing.
But I like that he fought back on it.
I like that he decided to say, no, because this is, I'm, I'm pumped to see it.
It's coming out, what is it this week or next week?
March 18th.
March 18th next week.
So I like the, at this point, it's called, you're promoting it as the Snyder cut.
You're marking it as Snyder's Justice League.
It's not WB's Justice League.
I know that the, oh, it's our characters.
It's not at this point.
It's not.
The audience, the hardcore people that want to see it,
people who are there to see it,
they want to see this man's version of it.
Leave him alone.
Same way that they did with Nolan.
Nolan, when he came out, when he did Batman,
he didn't tell him to be funny.
You didn't tell him to be funny.
The Batman movies weren't funny.
They were his version, and he did his thing.
He said, don't start to compare the shit to Marvel,
because it's not, the audience that's there,
is not there to see Marvel movies.
So I'm glad that he fought back on it.
I'm glad he did what he did.
And I think that it makes it more exciting for me.
But what do you think about this, though?
Yeah, I agree.
I feel like it's totally missing the tone.
These are some of the most serious characters in the DC other than Flash,
which I think his comedy worked,
but the other characters are really serious.
I just think Zach Snyder is the comedy of this all the way he talks is so funny.
And I love how to-
donated $20.
Come on, guys.
Let's hit that goal so Brett can actually plan a vacation in a couple weeks.
I mean it'll be cool to have Harloff and Ellis, but let's do it for Brett.
Yes, Bay Kay.
That's right.
Go ahead, Sam.
It's kind of like making C-SPAN, like members of Congress funny, like forcing comedy.
It's not knowing your characters.
And WB, like, D.C., this is the one area they really need to work on.
is understanding what property they're working with
and setting the tone around that
and not trying to be something else.
So I feel like I'm glad that he's so serious
in his like, I'd be able to force my will upon them
and kept to that tone.
Yeah. Dave, what do you think?
I mean, like,
I feel like if there's one thing they should have learned
from like the Disney Marvel Star Wars formula
is how Star Wars to me messed up
when they didn't,
let Abrams vision be the core vision across all of it.
So then when we got The Last Jedi,
homie was like, yeah, that was cool, but watch this.
And it kind of threw things off a bit.
And I mean, I'd be curious to see what Zach Snyder's brand of humor is.
Like, I mean, like, I, like, what if, like, Flash zips out of a frame
and it's like a slow pushing on, like, Batman?
And he's like, that's what she said.
Like, I can't, you know, I can't fathom, like, or like, what's his name?
Steppenwolf, you know, he's like, I smell refia.
And Superman flies in, whoever smelt it.
I don't know what he would do with that.
So I'm happy that they're letting him, you know, keep that whatever he's established.
because even though he's changed inherently to me
some of what those characters are,
who those characters are,
it's like we've been on his journey this time,
so we might as well stick it through.
Agreed.
Ryan, you feel the same?
Yeah, I actually think we've gotten a sample size of his comedy
and I don't know why they want any more.
I think of the Man of Steel,
what if I need to tinkle line,
or the, I think he's kind of hot
or just the eyes of her doing a jolly rancher.
Like, I don't think his comedy's good,
so I don't know why you want to ask for more
unless someone else is writing it and they're not.
It's the Snyder cut.
I don't want more of the Zach Snyder comedy.
Just not his vision.
It's not his vision.
Because even those things,
it's like,
if he's got an idea and people are excited about the idea of what he already is putting out there,
don't force him to do lighthearted comedy shit if that's not what the vision is.
It's like at this point,
people just want to see what he wants to do.
They don't want to see,
oh yeah,
now, you know,
somebody do it.
That'd be great if someone do like a dance around the lake.
Why?
Well, it's fun.
Some seven people just die.
Yeah, but yeah, but we don't want people to feel bad about death.
So make him do a dance.
I don't want to fucking dance.
Not a dance movie.
And that's the kind of shit that it's like the too many cooks in the kitchen.
And he, what he's been able to do with, you know, this movement of people wanting to see it is that he's like, let me do my shit.
Let me alone.
I'm not going to do it.
And good for him.
He pushed back.
And I think that that's the case.
And I think we're going to get his version.
And so there's no more, there's no more saying, oh, well, WB had their hands in because he clearly said they haven't.
And I did my thing and I pushed back on it.
So, okay, what's next?
Well, wait, real quick, we already got like a spikier Stefan Wolf.
So, I mean, the humor is there already.
People lost their minds about that.
So I don't think it needs any more than just a, he's spikier.
That's comedy to me.
Yeah.
What's a yeah, well that's that's that's that's someone even put a joke in every
because it's like when you the thing is they said well they're going to have a dance off with step and wolf you know making a crack at guardians but the difference is for guardians and james james gun is has set up that tone from the opening frame of that movie it wasn't it the movie was as much a comedy as it was a as it was a science fiction you know movie it's it's the it was set up immediately and so much so that I think the second one.
is more of a comedy and something I just I just don't like the movie because of it.
It's like, you get a joke, you get a joke, you get a joke.
Well, that person's not supposed to have a joke.
Doesn't matter.
Jokes funny, you say it.
And it's like, that's the kind of stuff where I'm just, it just beats me over the head.
But at least both movies were said as comedies.
If it's just like, hey, we just put a couple jokes in there.
The movie's not a comedy.
It's in no shape or form.
It's not a comedy.
Leave it along.
All right.
Well, what's next, Alex?
Zach Snyder is coming three America coming out next year.
Oh.
You deal with it.
All right, what's next?
With a Rogue One spinoff focusing on Cassian Andor in production,
rumor has it that Obi-Wan Kenobi will appear in a recurring role.
Both the Andor and Obi-Wan-Kinobi series take place
in between Revenge of the Sith and a new hope.
So Christian Wood capacity, do you think we could see Obi-Wan in the Andor series?
It's very smart.
It's a very smart move to do.
And it's a smart move to leak it if it did get leaked.
Because...
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Okay.
Well, sure.
We...
But going back into that
Obi-on,
Kanovi thing,
is because this is the difference
and kind of piggyback
off what Dave just said
where there wasn't really,
and I've said this many times over
with the Star Wars movies,
there wasn't really a plan at all,
even when you...
Even from JJ's first movie
to his third movie,
he had to...
He was...
kind of coming back and going, oh, I'll connect this,
and that, that, that, there was no clear plan.
That does not seem to be the case with the television series.
The television series seems to have a very clear plan,
whether it's the Mandalorian saying, okay, you see those boots?
That's going to be BobaFed.
You think the audience is going to know them.
We'll figure it out and we'll let them know in season two,
but that's Bobafet.
They knew that.
The other thing is connecting the Bobafet series to this,
this series that they're going to put out in December, right?
connecting Assoca and having her have her own spinoff show
getting the audience that didn't know about the Clone Wars and Rebels
familiar with her so then they want to carry on with her in another series
right there's that's that's what they were going to do whether or not
whatever it happened you know with the how the
what the fuck the the rebels not rebels what's the call I always forget the name
of this show what's the guardian not the guardians what's the fucking
oh actually the New Republic the New Republic the new Republic Rangers the New
Republic so that show like that's that's another one
The Rangers in the Republic, that that was going to apparently connect.
So connecting Obi-Wan into Andor makes a lot of sense because we've all said,
what's the show that everybody is the least excited about?
It's And by putting Obi-Wan in there and connecting Obi-Wan in there,
then that goes, okay, well, this connects somehow because then you could do the same thing for Obi-Wan.
You could put in some characters from Andor, connect it.
And then they go, oh, that carries over.
Maybe I should watch that show.
And I think it's a very smart move.
Steph, what do you think?
Yeah, I think it's totally mutually beneficial to get the hype up about OB1 and then also
increase the hype about casting andor.
I'm curious what kind of role he would play.
I can't imagine it's a sizable role as one of the articles I read.
I think it's going to just be more of a cameo, maybe holograms, because he was supposed to,
unless he's not on tattooing.
He's going to go off.
He's going to get off tattooing at one point.
And remember, I think that the scene that you're going to say,
see. I think that I think Jimmy Smith's will will pop up in and or and I think that he's going to have
the conversation. He's going to be in contact with Obi-1 because remember that scene in Rogue 1
when he's in the hallway. He's like my friend, he's on tattooed. J.D. Mashedanated $20. As someone
who is in fan of DC but not Cinder's D.C. can honestly say I don't care what happens in this
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him glad there finally seems like there is a plan.
Yeah.
What do you,
what do you keep going on stuff?
Oh, no,
that was it.
Okay.
And Alex,
how do you feel about,
we'll do more?
Yes.
Well,
here's my most insist on Obi-Wan,
and how he will play into this.
That's right.
Alex,
how do you feel about Obi-Wan?
Do you think they need them?
Do you think that it's just,
it's overkill?
How do you feel?
For me, I don't think they need them.
I'm excited for this series because.
It's beautiful.
Because it's Diego Luna.
Oh my God.
I'm down for some dirty, dirty dusty boys to go to war, you know.
Look at you.
So, I mean, like, but it's good marketing.
It's a good marketing choice to throw him in trailers and stuff.
And people will be familiar with that.
Dave, what do you think?
I do want to see him in limited capacity.
Yeah.
I'd be very happy with there's just a scene.
And he bumps into someone.
He just turns around, hello there.
and walks away, I'd be very happy with just something very simple, and you're like, hey, it's the guy.
But, you know, it is smart, though. It is a smart move. It feels very much like the moves that were made
with the Netflix Marvel series, having like characters throughout to interlink everything together.
So, yeah, it makes sense.
It's their shared universe. It's the one that, you know, there was always a question of if Star Wars was
going to do a shared universe. And this is how.
they're doing it. I mean, obviously everything is shared from the movies, but you know what I mean?
This is more connected that way. Ryan, how do you feel about it? I mean, so I'm a little
interested in the timeline of all this because I know this takes place like a year or two or three before
Rogue One. So is this an older Obi-One? Is this going to be an older Obi-1 the one we're getting
in the show, Canobi? And is that mean he's just going to be on Tatouine? Does that mean Anders
going to Tatooine? I don't see Kenobi maybe like going off planet.
that later in his career on Tatouine.
So I think there might be a mission on Tatooine.
That's kind of where my mind goes to this.
At that point, at that point, I think you're right from considering, considering where I
think he gets off, I think he goes off planet on his show.
I think that he's probably more stay put when it comes to that timeline.
The question is exactly where in the timeline is it?
It can't be too far back because Andor would be a lot younger.
Is it holograms?
Because then that's a whole other thing.
If you have Dale Argana and he's communicating with Obi-Wan,
I'm assuming we're getting some hologram conversations.
I love the idea of it.
I think it makes sense.
And I agree that I don't want to see him be like a crucial part in it,
but I like the idea of connecting it because I think that that's,
especially if Baylorgana is in it, he would be talking to Obi-One.
He did have connections with him.
So I like it.
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Great to see Dave here.
Hey, Brett Ryan, Alex and Steph.
You rock.
Seeing that cut scene during the Jesse Swift-Ammeru Moses match warmed my old action
heart.
Oh, and like Hammero says, hashtag always Ed Harris.
Always Ed Harris.
That scene is crushing, by the way.
That scene, the debut scene of the movie trivia Shmodeon, which aired, I just, it's pinned to my Twitter, and I just retweeted it again so people can watch it.
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All right.
Alex,
we have anything else before we start reading some,
stream labs and
by the way nobody gives a shit if Ellis and I host
here we go
they've seen that
all right yeah so
with the first trailer
for Tom Clancy's Without Remorse was released
and shows Michael B. Jordan as John Clark
unleashing vengeance on those who killed
his wife. Jamie Bell, Jody Turner
Smith and Guy Guy Pearce also
starring the movie to be on Amazon Prime
Video on April 30th written by
Taylor Sheridan and Will Staples directed by Stefano
Salima. Christian what did you
think of the trailer. Sign me up, man. Sign me up. Taylor Sheridan, I love Michael Lee Jordan. I love
Clancy. I love. So this is, this is everything that you're, that you're, this is mine.
This is the type of stuff that I'm looking forward to. So when it, when it's not going to be
on Amazon Prime, this is the one thing I will be missing about I, I'm, I am a, I am absolutely,
I think in the minority when it comes to once the pandemic is over and people are allowed
to go to movie theaters, I'm going to go, shit, all the good shit isn't streaming anymore.
It's holding the fucking theaters again.
So that's going to be me.
I can watch it on my Oculus.
I can't do this.
So anyway, that's a, this was pretty fantastic.
Steph, you watched it this morning too.
What do you think?
Yeah, it looks sick.
Every time I see things like this,
I just think, oh, another thing I can actually watch with my dad
because you'll only watch action.
And I love seeing Michael B. Jordan plays the emotional strong man so well,
probably one of the best right now.
So I think this role is absolutely perfect for him.
I saw Lauren London is playing his wife.
That was cool to see her on screen again.
She's awesome.
And what do you think, Dave?
Okay.
So I know we're coming off of Black History Month, so I should be like, yeah, black people, movies.
But I felt kind of, okay, I love everybody involved, right?
But for me, it's like another, oh, okay, it's another vengeance tale.
It's Black Rambo.
It's Black John Wick.
His name is John something anyway.
So it's a lot of the same, and especially with what I've seen with Michael B. Jordan as of late,
Homeboy takes a lot of the things that he's attached to and a lot of things that he's producing.
A lot of really cool sort of interesting sci-fi things that he's really been involved in that have been by his own hand.
So to see him in this is kind of like, oh, it's probably going to be dope.
And it looks like the action sequences are going to be fire.
But I was kind of like expecting seeing his name attached to something now.
Now I'm getting used to seeing him kind of step in interesting directions creatively,
and this is spelled a little more formulaic, more of the same.
I don't disagree with that.
I just think for me it's like I'm okay sometimes when actors take the genre movies and the ones that,
like, for example, if that happens to be a, the revenge movie is in the same genre as like a horror movie or a, you know, a fantasy sci-fi movie.
And now it's a revenge action flick.
it's one more thing in his repertoire. So I'm, I'm, I'm cool with it. And because of, I also am a big fan of Taylor Sheridan. And I think he's a fantastic director. So it was just some generic, or I shouldn't say generic director, but somebody who's just there for the job and not really in past things have just been okay. Then, then I'd be a little bit more skeptical. But Ryan, what do you think about this? Yeah, echoing what you said about Taylor Sheridan. I know, so I know he's writing this and I think Stefano Salima's directing, but he's, but he's,
He did Sicario Day of the Soldata, the sequel, which Taylor also wrote.
So, you know, these guys have, like, worked together before.
That's the team that I feel, like, the most confident with.
And because I see Tom Clancy and I'm like, wow, we might get, like, a very generic action movie.
We might get something special.
But interesting team behind it.
I think it's, I'm a little curious that Michael B. Jordan is going with, like, another franchise starter here.
Like, is this going to be his born?
He's already got Creed.
He tried doing it with Fantastic Four.
And I kind of like him having Creed and then doing the,
he's one-offs, and this sounds like he's trying to do
another franchise, but the action looks dope. I know it's going to be quality
with the team behind it, and
I think it looks great. What's the rumor
with Black Panther now? Is it a rumor that
he's supposed to come back? Is that, is that the...
I can't even keep track all the rumors.
They're saying they were going to bring him back
for a second there, but nothing's been confirmed.
Nothing's, all right. I want
to shift for a second. Real quick.
I'm with Dave on this one.
No, seriously. I mean, it's like,
oh, man, they should have...
They should have killed him.
Oh, brother.
They made a big mistake by not killing this guy.
He's the best guy we got.
On the water scene.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
There's going to be him hanging off of something.
You need to star in an action film like this.
That's what I want to see.
My favorite line of that whole rant was he's the best guy we got.
Oh, he's the best, man.
And don't waste Zippo Liders,
you're blowing up cars, guys.
Those are expensive lighters.
Get like a cheap pack of matches.
That always bugs me.
But the only thing I did like in that one,
you know, spoiler who hasn't seen the trailer,
but when he got in that car after Lighten him
and got in that guy's face,
that was the only one that was like,
okay, this isn't formulaic.
Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
So, and, but everybody here was losing their minds
when Odenk was doing this,
doing that John Wick.
It was, that looked way more of a,
John Wick rip off to me.
Like then I haven't seen the movie.
I don't know.
It could be great.
But that to me looked more of a job.
Like, yeah, he's straight.
This, that was, this is, this seems to me more of a, um, whether it was like a Liam
Neeson or a man on fire type thing.
Yeah.
That, that was more of the tone for this to me than I think those other movies.
Yeah, sure, there's a lot of those formulaic type.
But how many formulaic horror movies have we seen of the same type of shit and people go
back and see a million times over?
It sells.
Yeah.
I'm not saying it won't be fun.
Yeah, yeah.
There's just a huge demographic of people who like the classic action story,
and they just want to see something cool.
They want to see guns, blazing fires, explosions,
and they don't really care about the amount of depth that they're getting necessarily.
Odin Kirk was against type, though.
Like, he, I don't see him in this.
That's true.
Like, when Jordan's jacked, I could see him doing any badass,
whether he's Navy SEAL, Air Force, whatever.
I'm just curious if this is going to be more of like what Liam Neeson has been doing lately.
And you're like, okay, it's hit or miss or if this is going to be like, you know, elevated action.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
Sorry, it just kind of sucks that they have to fridge his wife, which is like a, like, the term is like, you know, they have to kill off the wife to have give him some motivation.
When they already have freaking Guy Pearce there, anytime you have Guy Pearce now, you're automatically like, cute in, like, okay, something's up with this guy.
Something's up.
I'm just not a big fan of the fridging that's going on here.
But I mean, Michael B. Jordan.
I love the guy.
All right, switching a little bit because we are going to have our guest in around 10 minutes.
And then Ellis is also going to be coming on in.
I wanted to talk about, so I'm a really big Billy Holiday fan.
Like, I love Billy Holiday.
I listen to it.
I listen to Billy Holiday music in my car when I'm driving.
I love Billy Holiday.
So I was very interested to see the movie that is on Hulu, and it's directed by Lee Daniels.
So I watched it the other night, and I will say that Andrew Day, who I did not know anything about, is a megastar.
I mean, the woman is absolutely incredible.
I know she just won the Golden Globe, I think, right?
I'm pretty sure she deserved because she was absolutely incredible in this movie.
the movie I thought was okay
just thought the movie was okay
I thought you to tell me that
I'm sorry
I thought I think she
she's the reason you watch
it's a must watch for her performance
I didn't love the directing
the directing of the movie
I thought that there was so many like weird
kind of transitions
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and Ellis show
been a while since Spateman has been on a
Maybe we can get the winner of tomorrow's match on two.
Oh, that's a big one too.
That's also something that we could potentially do.
But yeah, so there's parts of the movie that it like, it doesn't seem, you know,
it doesn't really know what tone it's going for.
It goes in and out.
And then the other thing, I like Garrett Headland a lot as an actor.
I really do.
And I think he's good in this particular role.
But he plays the character of Anslinger, right, who was the guy.
he was basically the government agent who started the whole war on drugs but had such a
a racist um vendetta against billy holiday and and planning you know uh and because he didn't want her
to sing the song strange fruit and the government didn't want her to sing the song strange fruit
which was which was about the the lynching of of african americans that were going on in the in the
country and they were like stop singing it you're inciting people she's like fuck that i'm saying
in my song.
But they said, well, how do we get her for doing it?
Well, let's, let's go after the heroin side of it.
So they kept going after she had a problem, right?
And people don't also forget that at that point, no, but in the beginning of the, of the
1900s, drugs all the way around the board were still legal.
And they're putting fucking cocaine in Coca-Cola up until like 1912 or some shit.
So after that, you know, they started, they made her an example.
and the movie's called the United States versus Billy Holiday.
But Anslinger, at the point in this movie,
was in real life, it was like 58 years old.
Garrett Headland is maybe 42, 43, and he's,
and he's a good-looking guy.
Anslinger looked like if, if, like, Grimmis was a white dude, you know?
Like, he was just an ugly, you know, fat dude.
And so that casting I didn't understand.
I'm sure there's a lot of people that they could have got.
But overall, movies is, it's just, you should have a very sad life.
And And And And Jarday is the reason why you see it.
But overall, the movie I just thought was, was all right.
Does anybody else see it?
No, I'm waiting to.
Yeah, I'm curious.
I thought it was pretty messy.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, And Jada is like the only reason that she makes it watchable.
Yeah, just, it's fine.
Yeah, it's, it's,
fine. And I wanted it to be great.
That's the problem. She's great.
She is great.
And her
singing chops because Billy
Holiday, it's not easy
to try to sound like Billy Holiday.
So she does sing the songs.
Oh, yeah. She's a...
A lot of people I remember
were complaining about the casting because
Andre Day is primarily
a singer. And then so I
love to see that she's the reason
the film is what it is.
crushed.
Wow.
Crushed.
Yeah, I'd have to see it just for that.
I'd love to see that, but I wish it was better.
Well, look, but I'll probably like it.
You might love it.
You might love it.
It's just my wife and I were like, we were like, no pun intended, jazz to see it.
You know, and we were like, when we were sitting down, like, just excited.
And she, she just is mesmerizing from the second she gets up there and starts singing.
But we're just like, you just wait.
for it to be like they hit you because the woman had such a crazy story and the story itself is
is not it's it's it's fucked up you know brutal it's brutal it's brutal but like it just i think that
i just didn't like what lee daniels did with the directing wise i think you could have gotten
that same story with a different um with a different take on how he directed it it wasn't a big fan
of it i agree with uh with alex and just it was messy um all right so alex and i are only two that
have seen that great all right let's uh let's we'll we'll move on here
here we'll move on and uh... Alex let's get this some stream lapse questions
because we're then we're gonna bring in our guest Steve Wright at 11 we're
gonna probably shut the shmobot off for about a half an hour
that's good all right so starting with Joe okay how many potatoes does it take to
kill an Irishman none I have to repeat I am Irish you all are great
thank you thank we says 2013's begin again by John Carney and starring
Kira Knightley and Mark Ruffalo we love the song Lost Stars and it's on a
rotation Adam Levine's version
is good and we dare say curious is better.
Your thoughts are personal stories for this movie?
For which one again? I missed the first part.
Begin again. Oh, I love that movie.
I love that movie. I own that movie.
I thought that was a great film.
Underrated film. I'm sure
how many people on this panel, if I'm going
to guess, I think Alex
has seen begin again, I think Ryan
might have seen it. No chance
that Brett has seen it. I don't
think Dave has seen it and I don't think
Steph have seen it. So am I right?
Ryan, have you seen it? Yes.
Alex, have you seen it?
I have not seen it.
Wow, you haven't seen it?
I know, I've seen one Sansing Street, but not begin again.
That would have been my lock.
That would have been my lock.
Staff, did you see it?
No, you're correct.
Brett?
Come on.
Correct.
It looks like something I'd be into.
Yeah, Dave.
No, I didn't see it.
Correct.
Yeah, so I was, shit, I was pretty good.
I was one, what, one for five?
Pretty good.
Or four for five.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's get into some more.
Gingem Wynne says, hey, all, just got my first round of the vaccine today, and so far my cell service is fantastic.
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Hard event for MVP says, as each day passes by, the more I'm feeling we really are going to get a live event this year.
just renewed my A-list membership
and the first movie I'm going to see is Raya
Raya and The Last Dragon in Dolby's
Cinema here in NYC.
How much money do you think it won't make?
Not enough that it needs yet
from movie-wise. I don't think enough people are going to be
confident enough to get back into the theater.
And I still, you know, we don't have to get into
all the other things about people opening up
places because they're getting fatigue.
But I do agree with the news
that if they do start getting this vaccine
out by May, I am, I am,
fingers crossed that we're going to get a live event.
We're going to get to the spectacular in December in L.A.
That's my, that's my host.
I've been, I've been crossing my fingers.
I even did a poll the other day of who would, who would go.
And it looks, it looks like we get close to almost 1,000 people in that theater if we,
if we did it, you know, if people were, if people feel safe, obviously that they would come out and they'd want to be there.
So, yeah, man, what do you guys think as far as Raya goes, Alex, you think it's going to make money this weekend or still not?
People aren't, people aren't ready?
I think, yeah, people aren't ready.
But, I mean, Disney Plus won't release their, what they make on their premiere access.
So I'm sure they'll make a few dollars on that.
But I'm definitely going to see it.
I'm going to purchase it.
It's funny.
I actually have a screener for it.
And I'll probably watch the screener by myself, probably today at some point.
But my daughter really wants to watch it.
So I might do both.
I might be with a screener.
The problem is the screener.
What I love about Netflix when I give you screeners, it just puts it on your account.
Disney Plus, you've got to bring it up through your email,
trying to run it through your television.
It's a big pain in the ball sack.
So I'm probably just going to watch it on my computer.
I'll tell you that Hollywood Reporter photo shoot, Killing Marie Tran, is huge, gorgeous.
Stunning.
It looks so good.
I'm going to pay to probably see it.
I wasn't for a while.
The hype, though.
Everyone's praising it and says it's incredible.
and like you said, it's another one that's like not depressing.
Yeah.
Isn't that, but isn't that crazy though?
Isn't that it's it just shows you how much like word of mouth counts because it's like when
Mulan came out, everybody's like, how is it?
Fuck it.
I'm not spending money on that shit.
But it's like, but when it comes to right, it's good.
Really?
Is it worth it?
Ah, shit.
I got nothing else to watch.
Nah, I'll play the 30 bucks.
Whatever.
That's what's going to happen because I'm, like I said, I have a screener for it.
I'll probably still buy it from my daughter this weekend because she really wants to see it.
Like she.
Yeah, this morning.
Yeah, this morning she was like,
Dad, I really want to watch that this weekend.
And I'm like, fuck.
I'm like, all right.
I'm definitely going to watch it.
Another Asian story for Disney is a win.
I think the Asians are going to pull up.
They'll make a good amount.
I know that all of us want to be able to see more stories like this.
So if they don't, then we got to stop talking shit.
Yeah.
And it's a focus on Southeast Asian lore.
So like Indonesian, Singaporean,
even some Philippine influence on the story.
So once I found that out, I was like,
oh, I want to watch this even more.
Is that true?
I don't think that's true, though.
Ed says that on PS4, there's an app
that says it has the link to the screeners in it.
I don't know if that's true.
I thought you were questioning them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
Like, actually, Alex, it's based on an American.
What do you really know about Asian?
No, no.
Alex, I don't want to hear about this.
This is all.
Don't tell lies.
Don't tell lies.
no one.
This is Asian propaganda from Alex.
What are you?
What are you and Steph about it?
I know about it.
I want to talk to someone who really knows about this and really understands it.
Brett, please.
Yes, yes.
And this is 30 bucks, right?
They went back with that.
They didn't, they didn't go.
They didn't learn the lesson.
I think because of what I just said,
I think because they said like, look, hey, look.
Yeah, the first one, the first shot didn't work.
Why?
Well, it wasn't that good.
Don't say it out loud, but you're right, Tony.
this one they say they'll like it.
Let's try it again.
Tony's got,
get Tony arrays.
And this is a keep,
keep for the extent of your
subscription kind of a thing too.
Like you get,
you buy 30 and you get it
or is it just a one shot?
I believe,
I think it's a rental.
You have it until it's,
until it's available on Disney Plus.
Yes.
So it's like,
so it'll be, you,
you own it from it.
You just unlock it basically is what it is.
which is great.
Alton Milan had reviews coming out a year before.
So we had a year to hear that it was mediocre.
Right.
By the time it came out, everyone's like, oh, I know it's mediocre.
I'm not spending $30 on.
All right, listen, so we're going to, we're going to take a break from the Schmo bots and everything else for a second.
And we are going to show you guys.
So you guys, if you've been following Schmo's long enough and you've fallen the space,
you know that Alison Hayslip is a big friend of the show.
And we've done a lot of things with Allison, whether it's,
It's on Collider, I think too.
I was very happy to see that she was in this movie called Alan and Dog because I know the creator of the movie.
I know that he's a friend.
He's a guy I worked with over at The Bachelor.
And he's a, he was, he done reviews with myself and Mark.
He did the angry driving guy, which is really, was a fun.
I think he's still doing that.
I have to talk to him about that as well.
But he's a really funny dude.
And I will talk to him about this.
I, you guys know that I have done pranks over.
the years in my lifetime.
My prank that I am the most happy with in my entire life,
my friend Steve was unfortunately the recipient of that prank.
And we'll talk about that.
Like I've done some great ones before,
but I was very proud of this one.
And I think that I haven't really talked about it ever on the air.
But even he was like, I remember him coming up to me like,
that was a good one, dude.
So we'll talk about that in just a moment.
But I do want to show you guys the trailer to Alan the dog.
And then after he comes on in, I believe Ellis will be here too,
but we'll have an opportunity to talk to Steve Wright.
So here we go.
Ice, like spicy rice.
Vanilla ice, like spicy fucking rice.
Boom.
You let me keep my balls, people.
Sure don't want him licking mine.
Good thing he's a heavy sleeper.
What?
Few things in this world are more special than the relationship between a man and his dog.
Yeah.
That is until they both fall for the same woman.
Ooh, that must be a lady.
Who?
Your new dog locker.
I already hate her knock.
Hi.
Takes a confident male to rock a onesie.
I wear them for both comfort and nerd hypnotist.
Are you a sociopath?
Every time I murder somebody, I feel terribly guilty.
Witty banter.
Check.
Go hot.
Mailman.
Colin?
No!
Yeah, set me straight, baby girl.
I'm so naughty.
I'm gonna go.
schmooze this hurting soul.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That is far enough, Garfield.
That's not even a dog. Yeah. Scram. All good.
At least I have my day with L.A. tomorrow. I'm going to carry her way out. She's your dog
Walker. Ooh, dressed up a little bit today. This is Princess Leia.
Buzzkill. Let's see if the mutts hit it off. Unless this is a
monaje, paw type of thing.
No!
and you're a dog.
You're not right for Ellie, dude.
Go hot.
Okay, hope.
This chick is driving us crazy.
Your allergies are safer, but love gets through the suit.
You're crazy!
Whoa!
No!
Oh.
You okay, pal?
Hey, Matt, what's the first thing you're going to do when we're rich and famous?
Being happy and having each other is more important than showbors.
Exactly. It's going to be wall-to-wall sex for me, too.
And we're back.
All right. So, ladies and gentlemen, the movie is Alan the dog and the main man who wrote it.
He does the voice of Alan the dog. Ladies and gentlemen, my buddy, Steve Wright, Steve, got to unmute yourself the stupid, stupid Zoom stuff that I hate.
I can't wait to actually get you in studio. How you doing, pal?
You still muted.
Still muted. There's a bottom button on the thing. You see the, the, the, the,
they'll see a little mute button on the.
There you go.
This dude, we just, we just did a, we just did a full reenactment of the Golden Globes.
Okay.
That's funny.
Exactly.
How you doing, Steve?
I'm doing well, man.
Thanks for having me on.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah, of course.
So we've been, it's funny because we were, we've been talking about having you on the show for years.
I mean, at one point, when we were speaking of pranks, we were going to do a thing where you were going to dress up as a studio executive.
and tell Makuga that he fucked up
and that you had heard too much about him
and that he was just kind of destroy him.
We had this whole thing set up.
We just never made it happen.
But enough about that.
We'll talk about pranks and everything in just a little bit.
I want to talk about Alan the dog, man.
Sure.
So I remember you coming up with this
during your time when we were working together
at the bachelor.
Is that right?
Am I right about that?
That is right.
I remember, you know,
it all started with,
there was a McGruff the crime dog puppet sitting in the assists bay.
And I saw it was like, oh, you know, just kind of took notice of that.
And then next time I swung by, it was still there.
And I was like, can I borrow that puppet, which sounds a little dirty.
Like, I got to take that puppet home.
So I just started producing just a little, you know, some comedy videos with the McGruff puppet.
Yeah. And but then, of course, when we, you know, started to think,
I just kind of fell in love with the character that was developing with that with the dog puppet.
And yeah, we, you know, when we started thinking about making the movie, of course, we can't use a McGrath to crime dog puppet.
So we built an original puppet and that's been the puppet ever since.
But yeah, man, that was a long time ago, man.
You know, working on the script and developing it for many, many years.
But, but yeah, it finally came to fruition and it's out now.
So tell me about it.
First of all, and it's on Amazon, right?
It is. It's on prime and it's pretty much everywhere you read, you know, or stream your movies.
But it, but it is on prime if you haven't to have a subscription.
It's on prime. And then we can, let's talk about, let's talk about the cast a little bit too.
Because like you said, when I saw the trailer, I was, I was obviously excited to see your trailer because I want to, I mean, you've been to Schmodeown stuff.
You've been, you've been such a supporter of us for so long that I was like, yeah, and I've been a fan of your comedy for a bit.
So I'm like, let me check out what Steve's doing.
And I was really surprised.
and excited to see Allison in the movie.
So how did you get involved with Allison Hayslop?
You know, I was not surprised you knew or just because I feel like you know everybody.
I know Allison.
I was like, oh, great.
But yeah, we got to Sam Daly first.
A friend of a friend.
That's cool.
knew Sam and got him the script.
And he, you know, sort of came on board early on.
And he knows Allison and has worked with Allison.
And he was like, I know somebody who would be.
great for this. And so that's how we got the script to her. Okay, great. And then so and then
you guys just kind of hit it off obviously. Absolutely. I mean, you know, we, I remember our first
read through and, uh, you could just tell everyone got the, got the script, got the movie,
understood that, you know, connected with the comedy. So they, ever since the first readthrough,
I was like, oh, it just felt felt really good. Yeah. Well, let's not bury the lead. How'd you get
Stephen Weber? So, you know, Sam Daley, you know, it's been in a bunch of stuff. He was,
He was in the office.
He played Oscar's boyfriend in several episodes.
And he's in a lot, you know, he's in hunters right now.
Yeah.
And his father is a famous actor, Tim Daly, who is on wings back, you, which I, of course, remember.
I think that was on for like eight years in the mid to late 90s.
And that's, of course, how, you know, so Sam was obviously pivotal in bringing on some key cast members.
And then Allison got the script to Gwen Hollander.
who is the voice and puppeteer of Alan's love interest.
So, yeah, it was all, you know, it was kind of,
and we did go through a formal casting process
for some of the other roles,
but the principals definitely were all sort of, you know,
connections through us.
How long did it take you as to shoot it?
We shot it in about 20, 22 days, something like that.
You know, most, it was one big chunk,
and then there was a little bit of a break,
and we had like four shooting days.
And then after that, you know,
a few pickups that we needed here and there.
But yeah, it was a real movie experience, man.
And it was just a total blast, obviously, man.
Going to set every day and performing this puppet, you know, was just, it was, yeah,
it was a dream come true, to be honest with you.
It was blast.
That's great.
Yeah, anyway, so it was also, when you guys shot the movie, it was before COVID and everything,
right?
Yes.
Yes, it was.
What about post?
Do you have to deal with any COVID shit?
You know, we really didn't.
So, yeah, we were in post-production when the pandemic hit.
So thankfully, because, you know, with an independent movie and, you know, you don't have a huge budget, like any big thing that could go wrong could destroy it.
I mean, if we were right in the middle of shooting that, it's hard to get everyone back, you know.
And, like, what, you know, if a lot of time goes by, you know, just, it, you know, causes more and more problems.
But thankfully, yes, we got it all shot before the pandemic hit.
Good. Happy to hear it. And then obviously, you know, the critics seem to be really enjoying it and laughing at it. And it's got to be also, I'm sure it's a little stressful too, because this is like your first, first big feature film that you're going to getting out there, right? And then how did you get involved with Prime?
You know, that, you know, through our producer, I guess, you know, probably through our digital streaming company, freestyle digital media. So they own the domestic streaming.
rights to that. And I think that they worked it out with Prime. So we actually, and we're now,
we have an international agent who is getting us set up in some, some other countries. And I think
in Russia, so it's going to be, you know, it's going to be subtitled in Russian, which I think
will be kind of kind of funny. So we'll see. You know, nobody's getting rich, unfortunately.
It's not, of course, why we made the movie, but it'd be nice to have a little bit of scratch coming in.
but, you know, we were warned about that.
Our producer, Warner Danes, who produced the movie,
he's made several independent movies.
And he's like, look, you know, in the streaming market,
it can take a long time to make your money back.
You know, the money just kind of trickles in.
So that's kind of where we are right now.
But we just so glad to finish it, be proud of it.
And it's out there.
Anyone can run it, basically.
So, yeah.
I love the fact that it's on Amazon, too,
because it's one of those things where,
I mean, obviously you were kind of enough.
send me a link but I want to I want to watch it with with the wife want to want to want to
sit back and kind of kick back on in a living room and and just be able to turn on prime and
and and laugh because I know your humor you know I've been I worked with you for so long that I know
that you can definitely tell even watching the the jokes I'm like yeah that's that's definitely a
Steve a Steve joke there for sure so it would that's you working with working with people
though funny because Allison's really funny as well you know so like when you're working
with other comedians like I know that it's also beneficial to
be able to take a particular joke that you have.
And then sometimes it's one or two things, right?
It's either one, I have this joke.
I know how I wanted to land.
Please say it this way.
And if you don't, it's like, but then there's the other side of that.
Like, okay, well, these people are talented.
Maybe they'll spin it this way.
And I got something I wasn't even expecting I was going to get.
Did you come across that a lot on the set?
You know, the writing was so excellent.
Just kidding.
I wrote this.
I'm just kidding.
No, I'm kidding.
No, absolutely.
I mean, you know, the collaboration, you know, the collaborative, you know, the collaboration was fantastic.
You know, we would do read-throughs and absolutely people would read it a little differently at times.
And it would be more effective and funnier.
So, but yeah, it was fantastic.
And we also kept, you know, once we had that first read-through, we got feedback from our actors.
Allison gave us great feedback about her character.
And, you know, there are times just like, you know, I don't think this makes sense, you know, her attitude in this scene because it's coming off of this.
like, you're right. So, you know, we kept, you know, we were doing some rewrites based on
feedback from our principles and from the readthroughs. But, but absolutely, man, you know,
there's a one seat. So Alan does a lot of a briefs. You know, that's one of his thing. He's
always talking in a briefs. Like you. Like you. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And Sam just had this
great, great idea for an abreave fight for the two friends, a man and his dog.
they get into this, a brief fight.
And so I wrote that scene,
and we ended up putting subtitles of what they're saying.
Oh, that's funny.
You know, and at one point,
they're fighting and Allen's like, you know,
at least I'm not a BS.
It says backstabber.
Mm-hmm.
And he goes, how am I a backstabber, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And he goes, SBA OTP.
And they're like, what?
And Alan's like, wait a minute, stabbing backs all over the place.
That's right.
Stabbing backs all over the plane.
So, but yeah, that was.
That, you know, again, was that collaborative effort, you know, an idea from Sam that we wrote the
scene and worked on. So that's my favorite scene in the movie, I think. So absolutely, man, you know,
working with those guys was fantastic. That's great. So good guys. Check out. Check out the movie.
It's Alan Dogg. It's on Amazon Prime right now. Steve Wright, who wrote it. He's the voice of
Alan and it's got some great, great talent in there. So you should please go check that out.
Check it out this weekend and watch it this weekend or shit, watch it tonight.
And, you know, maybe it's a, you got a little Wanda Vision, little Allen and the dogs.
Yes.
And you guys were talking about, you know, R versus PG earlier.
Yeah.
And we had that conversation many times.
And, you know, my humor definitely is not PG.
It's not like super raunchy.
You know, this is not the happy time murders where, you know, they were really.
Right, right, right, right.
You know, they were like, that was like the point of that.
And, you know, we went through and we're like, can we make this PG?
You know, let's look at every joke, you know, that would have to change.
And there was no way.
So it is our due to language, but that's about it, you know.
But yeah, it's not as raunchy as happy time murders.
You know, we would always pitch it as Ted meets Rushmore.
Yeah, I feel like the sensibility is somewhere in there.
You know, it's not quite as broad as Ted, nor is it as sophisticated as Rushmore.
But somewhere in the middle of there.
And I love that Alan's just staring at us in the picture over there in the post.
Oh, yeah.
Exactly. I've got Alan right here.
Where is he?
What's it?
What's, what's, Alan?
Can I interview Alan?
Okay, I was going to ask about the condition.
Yeah, so, Steph, you want to interview Alan?
Oh, yeah.
Hey, Alan, how are you doing today?
Thanks for coming on SDN.
Hey, it's my pleasure.
Thanks for having me.
This is great.
Yeah, this is fantastic.
Is this awkward?
Yes.
But, you know, it's really good.
Thanks for having me, Ellen.
Do you like to be held the way you're being held?
Oh.
Not really. It's a little uncomfortable, but anything for the business.
But yeah. Yeah, you know, and Steve was talking about the collaboration effort there.
And it really was because, you know, the script, while it was very functional, it was kind of bland.
You know, and you're looking at the guy right here who brings the magic.
You know what I'm saying? You know, there's words on the page.
You know, if you want to fall asleep, start reading Steve's script.
But yeah, you know, if you want the magic, get me to say the lines.
We'll go to town on it.
You bring the magic, but you were designed off an original prototype.
Have you met that one?
I'm not.
I insisted that the prototype be destroyed.
So, yeah, that was one of my conditions before making the movie is to destroy the, I won't even say the name.
I won't even say it's rough.
But, yeah.
Well, thank you.
We're very excited that you joined us, Alan.
and thank you so very much.
Awesome.
Thank you, Christian, for having us.
We really appreciate it.
And prank you did.
Bye.
Take care, guys.
Thank you.
Oh, the prank.
Speaking of the prank.
Speaking of the prank.
Oh, yeah, you said real quick, sorry.
He said the cast was great to work with.
How wretched was it to work with Christian?
It's true.
We had, we, yeah, we had our ups and downs.
But, but yeah, it was good, man.
It was good, yeah.
We only had one down.
I think the only had one down.
Yeah, there was a comedy store moment that we had.
But we were because we're both, it's, we're both like also so, you know,
locked into the stuff that we're doing.
And Steve's, I think we have so much respect for each other in the fact of creative.
And again, like I said, Steve was, Steve and I started like the same time.
We both started working at NXT, which is, you know, the company that does The Bachelor.
And we were working on this thing called high school reunion.
It was, it was.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we were there.
And so.
and Steve, Steve had such a great joke.
Steve's an editor on that show now.
And the editors, by the way, are like, that makes that show move.
So it's getting on, and Steve told me that.
I was like, that's a, that's a big jump.
Congratulations on that.
Thank you, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, the editors make that show.
The editors are the kings of that show.
Like I, from working, working on that show, like the editors are like, everybody
caters to the editors.
Like when you walk.
Oh, they're the masterminds.
And they, and they're all, and when you're, because Rachel Cushing, that's how I met
Rachel Cushing.
she was an editor on The Bachelor.
So anyway, so Steve and Steve went from, I mean,
there was, because they were like,
there was the logging positions and everything.
Steve started, again, I don't know, not to blow up Steve's head,
but like Steve is a really hard worker.
And he started from the logger position all the way up to an editor now.
And that's like, that just shows you his determination and kind of his wherewithal.
So, and so that, and the reason I bring that up is so the loggers when they start,
they're in there, they're kind of going overall,
everything that's happening with the show.
and they're very crucial to this show
because they let you know certain
just everything that's happening.
The amount of footage that these people are watching
is just incredible.
So Steve had moved up and I think at that point,
the loggers had like this,
there was like this room.
There was like this full on room where it was like the doors were shut
and it's almost like they left these poor guys
in there like caged animals, right?
And it's like, and it was like this glass.
They still have that room with the loggers in this, Steve?
You know, we actually moved offices.
We're in Burbank now, but yeah,
but yeah it was like this glass case we called it the fish bowl and it was tight it was tight in there
it was tight one table uh but yeah a bunch of computers yeah exactly yeah so there's a bunch of these
computers and the loggers are all would all sit there and then steve got moved up and then steve they
moved steve to like this this this cubicle he took very good care of it it was like really
as opposed to mine which looked like you know a hurricane hit it but like he and he took really good
care of it and he had all this stuff and so one day i come in and it was i think it was april fool's day
It was. It was. I'm having PTSD here. But yeah.
Well, so, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
I was just going to say, yeah. So I actually was in an office at that time. And so I come in and, you know, I've got all kinds of things. I've got a computer. I've got files. I've got, you know, my desk is, you know, cluttered with all kinds of stuff. And I come into the office and there is nothing on my desk. Everything is completely gone except for a note from our office manager that says,
come see me. And I'm like, I've been fired. I mean, I assume I've been fired. That was my thought.
So I went and found her and she's like, don't shoot the messenger. And I'm like, well,
just tell me what's going on. And she's like, they're putting you in with the loggers.
They want you to make sure that they do their work. And I go, oh, that's so weird, but okay.
So I go in there and all my stuff, I'm like getting my computer set up in there. And dude,
it's so tight in there. The desk was like in the very corner. So I'm getting everything set up.
turned to the lagers and I go, get to work.
Like, that's my, that's my job now.
But, and then I, I don't know how long it would have been then.
And I finally look up. And again, it's that glass bowl.
And I saw Christian across just dying, dying, dying laughing.
And I'm like, okay.
It was, it was this thing because like, and I even, like, I forgot how, like,
I went to the office manager.
At one point, it was like, yeah, Mark, because Martin, it was the guy who's running everything.
I said, well, let's just say that Martin really liked what he was doing over there and wants
to be in there.
So, so everybody kept coming up with me.
why is Steve out of his office?
Why is Steve working in the locker room?
And I'm like, and I told him, and I'm like,
because he thinks that Martin wants him there.
Like, why does he think that?
I go, because it's April Fool's Day.
And they go, brilliant, right?
And then he was, great.
But he did.
He came up to me after he's like,
it was good.
It was good.
It was a lot.
It was a blast.
We had a lot of fun there for sure.
I did.
Bagel Wednesdays?
I think, yes, they do.
They do.
They do.
Good.
I need bagel Wednesdays on my life.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Anyway, is, where's a, is L.
not here yet?
Ellis is not here yet.
Okay, cool.
Ellis just got here actually.
Oh,
because I want,
because Ellis remembers,
because Ellis,
where is you?
Where's Mark?
Bring him in right now.
All right.
Mark Ellis is coming in
because this is a reunion of stories.
Mark Ellis is here,
ladies and gentlemen.
Mark,
Steve Wright,
remember the one we used to do,
we used to have Steve
come in and do the angry driving guy
before he come in to do the review.
So you guys haven't talked in,
like,
I think of it,
10 years.
I love angry.
driving guy and the only negative that I could possibly have to levy against Steve and the
amazing angry driving guy is that I'm pretty sure it's your fault. You're the reason that Christian
started doing those morning drives to Collider while I was doing movie talk. And so like I'd be doing
movie talk and I'd be looking at the live comments as I'm hosting the show that you're like,
man, Christian's really going in on Transformers. I'm like, what the hell? He's driving to work.
That's awesome. It's true. What? Are you still doing? Are you still doing? Are you still?
doing an angry driving guy too, Steve? So I did 90 or 89 episodes on it. Holy shit. And,
dude, I sold my car in LA. I just was so tired of driving. And that's how that came about for people
who don't know. I would just, you know, film myself on a GoPro and just just jump cut and pretend
you have one side of a conversation talking to my therapist, getting broken up with,
breaking up, so on whatever the subject was. But dude, I sold my car because I just couldn't take
driving. I was in the car two hours and 20 minutes a day. And, uh,
And I was like, I don't want to waste this time.
And that's why driving asshole guy came about.
And I've one other memory from Mark, you guys got me up at the comedy store for a quick set.
That's right.
Yeah.
And Mark's pep talk before I got up was he's like, you're going to bomb.
But it's okay.
This is a tough room.
You were going to do terrible.
We're not going to hear any laughs.
But I'm just kidding.
It wasn't that bad.
But you just let me know it was going to be tough.
And it was.
but, but, yeah.
Was I accurate?
You know, it went all right.
In fact, I think the guy kind of let me go over the time, like the light one.
I'm like, can't keep going?
And then I really couldn't.
So I was like, no, that really is it.
I was like, where's, I go, I've got a solid minute and a half and that's about it.
All right.
Well, cool.
Are you able to stick around?
Sure.
You want to.
All right, cool.
So we'll get into some other stuff.
We do have Mark, Steve, Dave, Ryan.
Oh, I just said Steve Moore is here too.
This is, this is all-star.
We got, yeah, we got a great.
We got a great crew here today.
And so, man, to quote Kevin Smith, I should at one point, I should have Steve and David.
Tell him, Steve, Dave.
So let's, yeah, don't forget about Stephanie.
Come on, Mark, show a little.
My government name, Christian.
Stephanie.
Stephanie.
Well, Stephanie.
Stephanie.
Hello, Stephanie.
Stephanie.
Yeah.
Here's the thing about Stephanie.
We said it before that Stephanie and Alex cannot be talking about Asian things
because they don't know about it.
But Richard and sure does.
Go ahead.
Yep.
Stephanie and the bra.
Oh, I ain't got to watch that movie.
It cost too much money.
$30?
Shoot.
I can get a whole 18-packed and Natty life for that.
Maybe Daddy instead of some movie like this.
I don't know Steph's a bra's got money.
coming out for Patoody, I think.
I don't get always saved my bucks.
I literally shit money.
You're correct, Brett.
That's what we're going to call it.
That's Steph's new movie.
It's called Pituity.
She's a perfect woman.
Ptootoooo.
She's money.
Alice,
why don't you get us to streamlabs.com
slash the Shmo down.
All right, everybody.
And Alice, guess what I did for us today?
If we hit, uh, if we, what I say,
600?
600?
I think I said,
if we get to 600 today,
you and I are going to host.
to show together in two weeks, but don't worry.
We're nowhere.
We're not even close.
I don't get it.
Everyone always is like, where's Christian?
Where's Christian?
We miss Christian and Mark.
And then the one day y'all are getting offered it.
It's Celentio.
They're probably trying to recover from the show on Tuesday.
At least with our average of today and Tuesday, it's a good average.
Yeah.
Good call.
Got that going.
It's all right.
Yes, go ahead, Mar.
And in my defense, I just showed up.
That's true.
Okay.
Way to clear the record.
So for everybody's saving their money to see the legitimate face of this evil empire,
now I want you to donate up to $5.99.
Yeah, so we know.
Well, we're 461 away.
Alice, are you going, are you trying to get stuff going on the road now?
Is that something that is a possible?
I have some rumblings of things that are happening this summer that I can't quite announce yet,
but it's uh it's it's looking more promising so okay especially with this announcement for for may right
with the with the uh the vaccines uh yes that and combined with the fact that i'm just so horny for
stand up i'm like i'll just i'll just go i'll just go at this point i'll tell you i am too i am too
you know you know it too you've been hearing about it too much for me i'm i keep saying to ellis i was
like hey at some point uh you and i should try to put something on he's like let me let me
let me figure out my thing first, okay?
I just, there's certain times a day when Christian's calling and you know if you answer it
that you're just getting 10 minutes of a bit he's working on.
Hey, I have done, I have done one bit for you, two maybe two in six months.
Christian, George.
Two. You name me more than two.
Just because I don't remember what your bits are.
Does mean you haven't done them.
That's true.
Well, that is true, though.
The other day I did have one.
I was going to run by it, but I don't do that anymore.
I just called Brett.
Christian, I'll tell you the same thing I told Steve, okay?
It's not going to go.
Probably not.
It's true.
It's true.
I had some good.
Kate's been my sounding offboard.
All right.
Let's go to stream loves.
All right.
We got a question for Steve from Pussy O'Connell.
Hey, y'all.
Welcome to Steve.
Can we just ask him what his favorite Star Wars movie is?
What are some of his favorite films or films that inspired and influenced him?
Thanks, people, and God bless y'all.
It's very nice.
Awesome.
Thanks for the question.
You know, I love Rogue One.
I'm a Rogue One guy.
When our hero shoots the dude in the alley because they're going to get caught, I knew immediately.
I'm like, yes.
So I was like, dude, this is like to me, I don't know.
You know, I thought it was a perfect movie.
But I'm, you know, of course, the original trilogy.
Yeah.
Guy growing up, you know, playing Star Wars.
That's what I call my friend.
You'll play Star Wars.
That's every birthday with Star Wars.
But Rogue One in terms of the new ones, that one I thought, the tone, you guys were talking about tone earlier.
To me, honestly, I just remember when I walked out of that theater, I've only seen it once, but I thought it was a perfect movie.
I was like, that was perfect.
There was not one moment for me that.
And then in some of the other ones, I kind of feel, you guys were talking earlier about, you know, maybe forcing a moment or, you know, forcing things, humor, whatever, whatever is.
I kind of feel that.
I really enjoyed the movies.
but Rogue One for me.
My favorite movie, man, I am a Rushmore guy.
I just love that movie so much.
And I remember at the end of the movie,
he's been lying about what his father does the whole movie.
He says my dad's a surgeon or a neurosurgeon or whatever.
But he's really a barber.
And at one point he says, let's face it, Dad, I'm a barber's son.
And you can see the hurt on his dad.
But at the end of the movie, he introduces his dad to his friend,
finally he's been kind of hiding his dad the whole movie.
That's just one teeny little part of the movie.
There's something going on. He says, this is my
dad. He's a barber. And I'm like,
tear leaving my eye.
And so I love Rushmore. To me, it's
an incredibly sophisticated comedy.
But I'm a comedy guy.
I love comedy movies. And Alan the Dog
in some ways is a love letter
to movies in general. There's a lot of references.
We have a huge rocky theme
throughout the whole thing. Our entire ending
sequences like an homage to part one of that franchise. So, but yeah, Rushmore, you know,
that's why we pitched the movie as Ted meets Rushmore. You know, we follow somewhere in between
there. Awesome. And Dave, you got, you got to piggyback off of that. What's your favorite Star Wars
movie out of all of them? And then what's your favorite movie in general?
Okay. Honestly, for my cinematic journey, they're kind of one and the same. My favorite movie
of like all time is my favorite
Star Wars movie. Empire? Empire Strikes.
I like this kid a lot.
Big fan of Dave Moore.
Now my
movie kind of journey of like,
oh, I want to make these things
was honestly was Jaws first.
Oh, now you get on Ellis's side.
Yeah, it was Jaws. Then I got introduced
to Star Wars and I was like,
and the older I got, because as a kid,
I loved Return of the Jedi.
But then I really started to understand the complexities of Empire.
And so Empire became like, that's my jam.
Ellis hasn't figured that complexity poured out yet.
So he's still in Return of the Jedi.
What exactly is the complexity?
Somebody enlighten me.
How is Empire Strikes back?
The best movie of all time.
Then Return of the Jedi.
All Empire has is a guy, some strange, scary guy telling you that he's your father.
Return of the Jedi has that character rectifying in his own mind and then confronting that person, making it truth.
The real reveal is Return of the Jedi in Luke's acceptance that he has to confront who he now realizes his dad.
It's not just this, oh, Mike drop, I'm your dad.
How about the big?
The complexity, sir, baby carrots, is that you're watching this kid.
Living on a dream, literally.
All he could think of doing was fighting against the empire.
He is not only living his dream, but realizing that there are layers and levels within your dream.
So yeah, he achieved it.
He flew.
He fought.
He blew the thing up.
But now we're reaching another sort of threshold in his journey, which is going to Dagaba,
meeting Yoda, understanding what it is to be a Jedi.
failing at being a Jedi, almost jeopardizing all that they fought hard and sacrificed for him for getting the line exactly, but you know where I'm going.
At that point, Ryan, just to me fear, just get that Brian Krantson moment where he just drops the mic.
That's what Dave just did.
That's right.
Let me ask you this, David, because I do like you a lot.
How long would the movie Jaws have been if there were just three Ewks on that boat?
but they want to kill that shark in 20 minutes.
Facts, Mark, absolutely.
Well, we know that Steph's, your favorite is Jedi.
What about outside of Star Wars?
What do you got?
My favorite movie?
Outside of Star Wars.
Give me, you.
If I had to have one that, like, shaped my whole life is Austin Powers.
Oh, look at you.
It's a great movie.
The entire trilogy, but the original.
I know from very recent experience, Steph also very big on Underworld.
Love Underworld.
Do you know, you know, I don't know if I, the first one,
Austin Powers to me is, is just so great.
And I like the second one as well.
However, I don't know if I've ever laughed as hard as I've laughed in a movie theater.
In the beginning, I think it's awesome power.
It's gold members.
The third one when they do the whole thing with Tom Cruise and Danny DeVito.
Yeah.
And when Danny DeVito turns, he goes, hey, asshole.
Like, it just fucking killed me.
As when Danny DeVito's mini-me,
oh,
is so amazing.
Hey,
asshole.
Is that the,
is the third one?
It's the third one.
It is.
Tom Cruise turns around with the,
yeah,
Ben,
yeah,
when his Paltrow's there.
Yeah.
Beyonce.
Amini.
Can we get me?
So funny.
I remember,
I remember being at a theater
just crying,
laughing at that.
Hey, asshole.
So fucking good.
Anyway,
all right,
let's,
let's write up.
there with Rushmore.
You got
Brett,
you're simpletons.
Yeah, what do you have?
Yours is Tannenbaum.
Yeah, yeah.
Rushmore is my side,
but Tannenbaum,
I mean,
any, Wes Anderson,
I'm a Wes Anderson
Stan and Terry Gilliam,
a lot of those.
But yeah,
I love the Rushmore.
So that's,
that's making me excited to see
if it's,
if it's got a Rushmore element
in it,
I'm checking out.
I gotta go back and watch
Tannenball.
man, Tennamones is one of my, is such a fucking funny,
your mother was a terribly attractive woman.
It's just about, all right.
Let's keep reading, streamlabs.com slash a Schmodeown
and who's not donating right now?
Go ahead.
Well, it's not Patricia Metz because she donated
and says, how much to get my beautiful Ben Goddard back five days a week?
Oh, $200,000.
There you go.
Team Durant says, assuming they all have movie knowledge,
which current NBA player would be perfect to play in the Schmodown,
who would be great in promos,
entrances and storylines.
I pick is Kyrie Irving.
That guy just sends positive vibes all the time.
I'll let Mark, Ellis, you take this one.
What do you think?
I don't trust Kyrie to show up for all the matches.
He's just too much of a wild card.
So if it's someone who you want to be just a lights out competitor, I would pick
Damien Lillard for entertainment purposes as well.
I think Jimmy Butler would cut a great promo.
He's been in movies.
He could be a trivia question.
I think Jimmy Bowler has the competitive juice and the performance flair to be great in the movie Trivia Shmoda.
Well, our version of Dennis Rodman is going up and playing this Friday, and that's Jeff Snyder.
He is going to be facing.
He's going to be playing the one and only Dan Merle in a number one contender match.
It's going to be something.
These two have never played each other, ever.
They've never faced off in all the years they've been playing.
Jeff's been around since season three. Dan's been around since season two. They have always danced
around one another, but they have never faced each other. And it happens this Friday. And it's
pretty easy how you do it. If you want to go and get a ticket, you go to the Shmodel Live.com,
you can get it for $5.99 over there. However, if you want to, you can become a $10 patron,
which I think is the best bang for your buck because you're not only going to get Jeff Snyder and
Merle this month. You're going to get Bibiani and O'Yama. You're going to get Dimalanta and Damon.
you're going to get john roka and liz shannon miller and then ben bateman versus riley all at that
ten dollar tier um on patreon that's patreon dot com slash schmodown all right what's next
tongue punch fart box says how do you think fans or w b will react if sniders jemortvo donated
fifty dollars oh hello crew can we switch steve and dave's window so it looks like that
dave is surrounded by all sides you guys are awesome
We have Steph and Dave who are together.
And well, Alex, too.
So I don't know what that means.
All right, let's go next to.
How do you think fans or WB were reactive Snyder's JL ends on a cliffhanger?
Will fans be able to demand a continuation of this version?
Would WB say fuck off and be done with us?
It's tricky.
It's fucking tricky, man.
You vote with your wallets.
You vote with your clicks.
So if this thing just goes off like gangbusters and we,
know that WB as well as other studios, including Lucasfilm,
look at what fans say about the movies that just came out.
And so if it does get a lot of universal love and it's not just a bunch of bots trying to celebrate it,
I'm excited about watching this movie.
I'm going to click on it.
Enough people click on it and watch it.
Then you could get more Zach Snyder, WB movies in the future.
I think it's a tall mountain to climb, but enough people want it.
Curious.
Because they have, I mean, because from Warner Bros.
brothers, Warner Brothers didn't want to release it, you know, and they, they were pretty much like,
hey, we want to see this movie. You want to do it. And it was like a movement to get it done.
And the question is, I agree, Mark, that I think that if a lot of people are checking it out and it beefs up the
subscriptions and then people want to see it continued. But from all rumors, it's over, it's the budget,
it's over 200 mil now, right? Or more. I just, I don't care. I ain't paying for it. You're not.
You're not, but the people who've got a green light as a sequel are.
I think I'm going to watch this, but I'm probably going to be, I'm going to be Zach's not his best friend, because I'm not just going to click this once.
I'm going to click this 10 times.
There it is.
Steve is a director, how do you feel about Viking movies?
Could you make a movie with Vikings fucking?
You see Brett hasn't had freaky sex in a while and needs some new material and Terry's only so many times he can beat it to that world girl's calendar.
Oh my goodness.
Wow.
Check out our classy fans are, Steve.
By coincidence, the next project I am working on is a Viking fucking movie.
Yeah.
Amazing.
I actually, I did not direct Alan the Dog.
My good friend Barry Murphy did.
I met him in 2013, and right when I started working on the script.
and he took an interest in it,
and we ended up developing the story together.
And so, yeah, I actually did not direct that.
And, you know, I literally couldn't.
I mean, I was on the ground, you know, with a puppet.
So there was, you know, but Barry did an amazing job
of bringing the team together and developing the whole thing.
And so, but yeah, so, yep, I am not a director.
What a way to put a really, like, nice, classy answer to a just filthy question.
Thank you.
So you have no interest.
in helping me have sex with my wife, is what you're saying, and I are not going to make a
puppet Viking movie. Okay, no, that's cool.
Question.
Next question.
Brett, I think Stephen could help you out.
I think he could probably make a couple of puppets to explain sex to you and your wife.
That'd be good, too.
All right, what's next?
Sir Lord Attenborough says, hey, all, happy belated birthday, Brett.
Alex, great job of the song yesterday.
Thank you.
Christian and Mark hosting needs JTE or Finstock to take the show to the next.
next level. Can't wait for Snyder v. Morrill tomorrow. Has anyone seen Raya yet, is it worth $30?
Just hearing good things about it, having got a chance to just yet, but I'm probably going to
try to watch it today and try to get a review out. We'll see if that happens. One more thing before
we start reading some more of these here, too. We also have the, I mentioned earlier, the Star Wars
match between Marvelous Marie Wilson, first Dragon Con player to make her debut going up against
the saint, Sean Sullivan, that happens at two.
PM, PST today on this channel.
Please do not forget that.
Tune on in, support the players.
You can watch them on.
For those people who are like,
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and I can't do Patreon.
Well, this is free.
So head on over there today
and check it out and watch that match.
All right, what's next?
All right, 50 Shades of Geek says,
I totally agree on the Zach Snyder thing.
It's WB's right to interfere with a movie
because it's their movie,
but at some point, it stops being giving a few notes
to just being taking over the movie completely,
like what happened to 2015's Fantastic Four.
I'm working on a big project and I have an artist doing the work for it.
I give them a few notes and course corrections from time to time,
but for the most part, to let them do what they want.
I don't macro manage them all the time.
In short, what I'm trying to say is you hired a director to do a movie for you because you like their vision,
so let them do the movie you pay them to do.
That's it.
I'll get off my soapbox right now.
Well, thank you, 50 Shades.
I appreciate that.
And you'll probably hear more 50 Shades in 15 minutes,
because Brett and I are going to be doing our stereo show right after this.
Stereo.com slash Christian Harlov.
Make sure that you join us.
All right, what's next?
Ejaculate says,
hello, everyone.
Hope y'all doing well.
So Paul Bettany just made a lot of fans.
Expect that there's Luke Skywalker-type cameo in finale.
And director said that a lot will be disappointed.
Y'all think there will be,
there will actually be a cameo,
or is it just marketing?
Thoughts?
And Steve, if you want to comment on this,
we always address the caller by their name.
So, you know, just in case.
it's a little awkward but it's we pay respects to these great great names that make me proud that my mother watches this show
do we know I think and who's is everybody I know I know Mark isn't I don't I don't Steve are you watching One Division
I'm not I should be but well you're not is Mark isn't everybody else I think I think everybody else is
So the question I have then because there's been
Olson has said there's going to be a big cameo now
Bettney has said to the director's like
Ah people are going to be disappointed
I think that the director is probably trying to throw
people off and going he knows that this thing is going to
kick the shit out of people and he's going
Nah, you're going to be disappointed when he knows it's going to
It's going to be straight kickass but I don't know
What do you guys think Dave?
I mean he could be pulling a JJ Abrams
Yeah, but I think
there's some truth in it where it's going to be like it's Dr. Scream.
So it's like it's someone we know, someone we kind of assumed might show up.
So it's not going to be like, I didn't see that coming like Luke.
You know, like where you even though it was a reality of Luke possibly showing up,
you didn't think that was going to actually happen.
But with what they've been doing with this the show like anything's possible.
So unless like Spitey shows up, you know, like I don't think it's going to be anything
crazy mind blowing, but it's still going to be dope nonetheless.
What do you think, Steph?
I don't think that they're going to bring anyone.
If they do, it will be, no, unless it's connecting to the next,
one of the next movies coming out.
I could see Dr. Strange maybe, but I just,
they have so much to tell and work with with the characters that are on screen already
in one episode.
I mean, unless it's like a two-second cameo.
Well, like, this is supposed to, correct me if I'm wrong,
this is a direct tie-in into the next Dr. Strange one, right?
am I trying to be?
Oh, yeah.
That's what they're saying, yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm thinking it might be strange,
but like that's the only thing that I could think
and people might not be crazy,
like freak out over that.
Alex?
I'm going off board.
I'm going to Fanty.
I think he rides his purple suit.
Hopped on that white horse.
Comes right up to the house.
Boom.
Billy Zane.
Slant.
Yes.
Life's better with a little Zane.
Billy Zane.
Yeah, it would be.
What else I just watched?
I was watched that flora, the flora and the squirrel movie.
Just this was the one on Disney Plus.
Yeah, I watched that with the, the, my, my daughter wanted to watch it.
And it was cute.
It was, you know, it's, it's bench.
Yeah, but you have PTSD from actual squirrels.
So how are you in the process?
Not as much as you would think.
Not as much as you would think.
So if you don't know the story, a squirrel bit Christians right testicle.
And he had to have both of them removed.
Also also also not.
Both of them.
Not just what,
he just built the bit the right testicle.
That's strange that both had to be removed.
It was the leading issue.
It was a clot.
It was like an infection spread.
I was on acid.
But no,
you know,
the funny thing is that when I moved,
I was,
that was more so Mark,
I was just like,
all right,
because there were scrolls
running around the back.
These squirrels are in my backyard now,
they're nice.
They don't bother anybody.
These were fucking asshole squirrels
that lived at the other place.
These,
these ones,
these are nice squirrels.
They don't,
they come.
in, they eat food, they run away.
They do this. They don't bother anybody.
Assholes, these other ones, assholes.
But so, when you have squirrels that live less than a block from a jack in the box,
they're going to be a high-maintenance squirrels.
California squirrels are trifling.
I had a friend in college.
We had like an ongoing war with the soccer team.
I played field hockey.
The guys tried to prank us.
And I had this crazy girl from Vermont that, you know, she was like a hunter.
since she was born like she was
fucking wild. She grabbed
a squirrel by the tail,
caught it, and then unleashed
in one of the boys' dorm rooms.
Needless to say, the war
ended, because that was a PETA issue,
but it was... That is a
great war-ending
prank.
Over, game over.
Yeah.
All right, let's try to get a few more here.
The Shades Geeks at Sats third of the day.
Last night,
I dreamed the Wanda Vision finale was screened in theaters.
It was my first time in a theater since last March.
The finale was great, and it even had a post-credit scene setting up phase four,
that I woke up to this sad world.
Just in case you were wondering,
the post-credit scene for Wanda Vision in my dream set up the next big bad of the MCU,
Corolla DeVille, and teased a crossover with a Simpsons, family guy,
and other shows of that type, because that's how my dreams are.
There you go.
OmbiCube says, on the topic of coming to America,
is it possible coming to America
is it possible that they wrote a script without worrying about rating
and then they realized that just a couple of minor tweaks
would allow it to become PG-13
instead of that being a requirement from the start
I don't know I got to get
I got to get Craig Brewer on the show
to ask them that question
I got to because
PG-13
Ah okay
Yeah all right
Now Mark here's a question for you
Because you're usually the one
That is like it doesn't matter
Now you're a big coming to America fan
The original right
And so how do you think it, do you think it matters for this one?
I think that comedy can be executed just as well in a PG-13 world if the right practitioner is doing it.
I would have rather had it be rated R.
Right.
But in the same way it doesn't mean it's a deal breaker.
No, in the same way that I would prefer Deadpool rated R.
But my point when Deadpool was coming out is it, I didn't think it had to be R or else it's a wasted effort.
And I don't know that that's the case.
but if you want to make an authentic barbershop feel like those scenes are coming to America,
you probably want that R rating.
I can't imagine.
I've never passed Eddie Murphy.
And 90 professors PG-13 and it's great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't imagine though like someone, especially not knowing maybe where this movie was going to land,
if they're just writing the script, if you're writing something knowing Eddie Murphy,
Arsenio Hall, like if you're knowing these are going to be your people,
I can't imagine the original script was with PG-13 in mind.
Yeah.
To answer that, homies.
Agreed.
All right, we got about 10 minutes left.
Then, like I said, Brett and I are going to be doing the show on stereo.
So let's get to it.
The Shands a Geek says the trailer looks great.
We need more movies with puppets.
I agree.
Awesome.
Thank you, man.
I love puppets.
That sounded weird.
Yeah.
And you guys were talking about squirrels,
when there's actually a squirrel puppet.
the movie named Blinky.
And Alan, his fall from fame because he attacks this squirrel for no good reason when he's
drunk.
And he ends up getting in trouble for that.
And the movie is actually dedicated to Blinky's memory.
That's awesome.
I can't wait.
Yeah.
So, Ellis, I know you jumped in towards the internet too.
So Alan Dodg is on, it's on Amazon Prime.
Yeah.
I'm two feet in.
I cannot wait to check this thing out.
Thank you, sir.
And we just showed the, and like I said, we showed the trailer.
You can check it out.
And you guys, once again, we were here with.
Steve Wright, and you should please, please go and check out his movie, Alan the Dog.
It's going to be on this.
It's already on Amazon Prime.
So go and check that out.
It's Allison Hayslip, Stephen Wright, and it's great cast.
So please check it out.
All right, let's keep on going.
All right, Shmows, no trivia time.
Which of these movies didn't receive a zero out of five schmows from either Christian or Mark?
Bucky Larson, Hot Pursuit, Jack and Jill, Texas Chainsaw 3D, or Piranha 3D?
Piranha 3D
Piranha 3D
And I don't think
Texas chance like I got a zero from us
I don't know
I remember hot pursuits
It might have dude
It might have
Well the answer
Oh
The answer is Jack and Jill
Christian gave it 0.5
And Ellis gave it 0.2
Okay
I don't know what
I would have to do it
Ellis
Ellis
Ellis should I do it
You're playing Twista
with your sister
Okay
All right
But Pacino also
ruins
50% of his legacy of that movie.
Oh. Okay.
Shots fired. Don't know
about that one.
Yeah. Have you seen
my hair lately? That might have ruined the
legacy. Okay.
Alright, moving on.
Trash Panda says, hey, everyone haven't watched
live since going back to the office,
but I'm working remotely now that a ransomware hack
shut our server down for at least
the week. Shit is rough, bro.
Anyway, who's everyone's favorite
comedy director?
Favorite comedy director.
I'm just going to say Ivan Reitman or Harold Ramis.
Oh, Ramos, yeah, I would go Ramos.
Anybody else?
No, good talk.
Moving on.
Oh, Edgar, right for me.
Oh.
There you go.
All right.
Those are all great joy.
Back to.
All right.
Senator failed orgasm says, hello, everyone.
NBA talk.
Brett, you know what to do.
Mark Ellis, how you like them Lakers?
Ellis, tell Christian that the Knicks might make the playoffs this year.
are our guests into NBA.
How's their team doing?
Thanks, people, and keep being nice.
Yeah, the next might make it to have the right to get swept by the Nets in the first round of the playoffs.
So it's something.
It's the playoffs.
It's at least.
It'll be fine.
It's nice.
What an embarrassment that franchises.
Mark, we need to talk after the show a little top shop.
Top-heavy.
Top-shot.
Oh.
Yeah, NBA.
I don't like BenBA, but I like making money.
By the way, Christian tried to work.
his wizardry at me because I got a text from Bonnie Somerville who hadn't texted me in like
three months. Really? And all it was was inviting me to their stereo that they were doing.
I was like, I am sure Christians on the other line to this. A hundred percent. I had nothing to do
with that. I give you my, I had nothing to do with that. I had no idea she even knew how to work her
phone, much less stereo. Bonnie Somerville is as a commenter said earlier, the Kyrie Irving of the
Shmode.
She, you know what?
I would have given her that had she not, I mean, she blew the doors off the place on Tuesday.
She's so awesome.
She came in blazing.
And she was, there's a lot that she did.
There's a lot that she did.
So, and she ended with a really, with a Janus Jopoldunated $20.
Hey, everyone.
New tag team coming in September, Luke is going to be a big brother.
Oh, that's awesome.
Thanks.
I think that was Joey Moten.
Joey,
congrats, man.
That's great,
Joey.
I'm very happy to hear them,
man.
That's great.
Congratulations to you.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
All right.
What's next?
All right.
And our last one for now is from
James and John.
Who made better movies in their two and a half short careers?
James Byron Dean or Lee June Fenn,
aka Bruce Lee?
I mean,
Bruce Lee or who was the other one?
James Dean.
Oh,
Bruce Lee.
Who are we still talking about?
Bruce Lee.
All the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think we still talk.
about both of them fairly regularly, but only one of them beat up both Chuck Norris and
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Right.
That is Bruce Lee.
Mike drop, Bruce Lee.
That's it.
That's it.
Okay.
I don't know we talk about James Dean.
I just think a lot of college kids have posters of them.
We're talking about them because of the CGI James D.
Yeah.
The thing that they're talking about, which is absolutely.
Steve, maybe in your next movie you can just do puppets of dead actors.
Yeah.
And that is like a way to not have to see.
It's like a lower, you don't have to pay as much as C-J-J-Rive.
You could have just a bunch of dead people be the stars of the movie.
I love it.
I love it.
That's it.
All right, cool.
So with that one, that guys, thank you so much, Ryan.
Get the music.
I want to thank Steve Wright for joining us here today.
Once again, please check out Alan the dog on Amazon Prime right now.
Dave more coming in and kick an ace.
Dave.
We're going to steal out more, Dave, here on S-E-N.
so excited to have Dave involved in the crew.
Mark Ellis, Brett Sheridan, Stephanie.
Trevor.
Ryan and Alex, thank you guys so much for joining us.
Thank you for joining us this week.
Tomorrow, Broca's back with the crew,
and maybe we'll step the goal that Mark and I will host with them.
Maybe if they ask for you to do it, then it'll happen.
Okay, well, thank you guys so very much,
and join us on stereo.
We'll be there in four minutes.
Thanks, guys.
Thanks.
