The Kristian Harloff Show - WBD In Crisis: James Gunn's Future A Mystery & WGA Enter The Fight Over Paramount Merger!

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

The entertainment world is in chaos as Warner Bros. Discovery faces major pressure from all sides. The WGA is stepping in to block the potential Warner Bros.–Paramount merger, while DC Studios co-he...ad James Gunn seemingly addresses rumors of a possible exit amid the sale talk. Plus, what does this mean for DC's future projects like Waller, The Brave and the Bold, and the newly registered Salvation Run trademark? Kristian Harloff breaks down the latest in this developing studio war, with insight into where DC Studios stands and what could happen next. Topics include: WGA Aims To Block Warners-Paramount Deal James Gunn Seemingly Addresses A Potential Exit From DC Studios Following WBD Sale Announcement Paramount Offering David Zaslav a Co-CEO Role in a New Merged Company Gunn on the Failed "Arkham Asylum" Series and "Waller" Status DC Studios Registers Salvation Run Trademark for a Future Film Andy Muschietti's Plans to Direct The Brave and the Bold Sponsors: RUGIET:  Ready to level up your confidence in the bedroom? Head to http://www.rugiet.com and use my promo code KRISTIAN for 15% off your first order. Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at http://www.trueclassic.com/KRISTIAN! #trueclassicpod Head to http://www.Strawberry.com/KRISTIAN to claim a special offer and get started. That's Strawberry dot M-E slash KRISTIAN. Stop settling. Start building the career you actually want.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 What up, kiddies. It's your boy. That's right. It's your boy, Winston. I'm going to be in charge today. Signor Christian has some family stuff that he needs to take care of today. He is fine. Everybody's fine.
Starting point is 00:00:14 He just said, hey, bro, I need you to run the ship. I said, okay, that's what a skipper's supposed to do. You know what I mean? And make sure that we don't run it in the icebergs, you know, while you're taking a nap or whatever it is you're doing. So, capes and cows Friday. You know what it is. We have a lot to talk about today, man. And first of all, WGA is actually out here in these streets getting ready to block the Warner and Paramount deal.
Starting point is 00:00:39 They're ready to make sure that that doesn't happen. Hell yeah. See, this is exactly why my sister union. Respect. Love that. Paramount also apparently offered David Zazloff a co-CEO role with the merge company. So you know, he's probably not happy about it because he gets paid a lot of money to do a lot of nothing. So I'm sure he's not super thrilled about that.
Starting point is 00:01:00 But James Gunn, we've got some updates from him, long-term plans for the DCU, beyond man of tomorrow, stuff that's coming, but not guaranteed. More stuff about man of tomorrow. The failed Arkham Asylum series and the Waller series, and, you know, DC Studios is registering the Salvation Run trademark for a future film. Bush Yeti still intends to direct through the Brave of the Bowl. We got a lot, a lot of stuff going on today that we have to talk about. You know I'm not doing it alone. I've got Chris Carr with me, but before we do anything, you know we got to hit that sweet, sweet music, baby.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Let's go. Capes and cows, you back in the building. You already know what it is. As I have said before, you know me. I'm Winston A. Marshall, aka the Swaggy Blurred, I am running on hopes and dreams and caffeine. That's about it because I'm not going to have a lot of time today. But again, I'm not doing it by myself.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I've got backup. I brought the superwoman to my back. girl. Chris Carr's here. Hi, Chris. Yeah. That's who we are. The world's,
Starting point is 00:02:28 the world's finest as well. I don't, I don't know. Who is your, who is your, like, main go to superhero? For like DC,
Starting point is 00:02:36 though specifically? Or just in general? That's just just in general. I was going to say the world's finest. I was to say Batman to my Superman, but then I was like, but like Batgirl and Supergirl actually also kick ass too. So who am I going to?
Starting point is 00:02:48 two for you. I mean, for me, I'm a Spider-Man girly, but also, like another dynamic duo from D.C., this is still ladies, but the Power Girl Huntress team up was always so fun. That one's always fun. Fire and Ice is kind of dope. Fire and Ice sexy as hell.
Starting point is 00:03:04 That's just two, just like one Scandinavian model and one Brazilian model who also have Fire and Ice Powers whooping ass and taking names. They knew what they were doing. Exactly. And depending on the continuity, they're either best friends, and they're both out looking for men's or they love us and then not worried about men's.
Starting point is 00:03:23 They just whoop in their ass. It doesn't matter. Like, you know what I mean? It's like it's what either iteration. They're incredible. So a goal for anyone. Either version. Well, all that being said, Chris, just want to check in.
Starting point is 00:03:37 You're doing all right. Everything going well with you. Doing great. I booked like five voiceovers in 24 hours, which was nuts. And so I've had a crazy few days plus doing the podcast on top of that. So listen this holiday season for 1,800 flowers, everyone. I have so many campaigns with them. The fact that they brought you back every time is clutch.
Starting point is 00:03:57 That's kind of a dream, right? It's great. Yeah, it's nice to have work, you know? It's good to be invited back anytime. How about you? How are you doing? You know, I am doing all right. It's been kind of a crazy week working like crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And as I was telling you and Luke right before we started the show, I am on avail for a feature right now. So to that point, I'm going to cut my side of the banter a little short just because folks, I actually have that meeting with the producer and the director at 11 via Zoom. So we got to get out of here on time today. That doesn't mean that I don't want all of your lovely, lovely, lovely superchets. We have quite a number to work against here, Chris. Miss Steph got it up to 137.
Starting point is 00:04:43 So that's a monster of a number to get to, but I think we can do it. So all I'm going to need is for everybody to get in there, send in those super chats for any questions and stuff like that that you want to kind of get in, get in the discussion. We appreciate it. And I'm going to get it popping immediately to this first story. I realize I got to go and do that screenshot thing. Whoops. Let's see. Go away away.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Here we go. Okay. Boom. The WJ is looking to block the Warner's Paramount Deals. I was mentioning this in the top part. This is the Dark Horizon story on it. Both the West and East branches of the WGA have issued a statement indicating that they will work to try and block a studio mega merger between Warner Brothers Discovery and Paramount Skydance. One of those Discovery has reportedly rebuffed at least three offers directly from the David Eliasson led Paramount to acquire the studio.
Starting point is 00:05:41 The two branches of the Riders Union said in a statement on Thursday that a merger between Warner Brothers Discovery and any other major studio. or streamer would be a disaster. Merger after merger in the media industry has harmed workers, diminished competition, and free speech, and wasted hundreds of billions of dollars better invested in organic growth. Combining Warner Brothers with Paramount or another major studio or streamer would be a disaster for writers, for consumers, and for competition. The WGAW or WGA West will work with regulators to block the merger. Breathless and rampant speculation about a potential acquisition has rocketed WBD
Starting point is 00:06:17 stock price in recent weeks. On Tuesday, the company said it's reviewing strategic alternatives to maximize shareholder value, which has been translated as meaning that they're up for sale. The company has indicated it has received unsolicited interest from multiple parties, though Paramount appears to remain in the driver's position due to little in the ways of hurdles to such a merger along with support from none other than the White House, according to the New York Post. Senior Trump of admin official told,
Starting point is 00:06:47 the outlet. Who owns Warner Brothers Discovery is very important to the administration. The Warner Board needs to think very seriously, not just about the price competition, but which player in the suitor pool has been successful in getting a deal done, and that points to the Ellicons. All right, Chris, I have so many thoughts, but I really know where your head is at. So you hear this news, you hear that WGA is not taking this line down. Where does your mind go with all of this. Man, it's all kind of a mess, isn't it? It's a lot of stuff to work out. Without getting too political about everything, too, because I do want to just focus on the actual merger part of this. It is concerning anytime we have these kinds of business deals go through
Starting point is 00:07:34 because there is a lack of different voices, right? That's one of the concerns right now. And not only from the standpoint of just like different types of media that you can consume, different stories being told, but also from a news standpoint, when you only get one perspective, which is bananas that there's perspectives on news. This didn't used to be the case. I'm going to sound like such a boomer for a second. Like you used to just get facts. And then there were a couple shows with political pundits. And now everything is very skewed. And that's unfortunate because, you know, data doesn't have feelings. Right. We all do. We have feelings about the data. Right. So that is concerning because we, we are.
Starting point is 00:08:14 moving more and more towards not having partisan news delivered to us. On top of that, just from a storytelling perspective, I want to make sure I keep hearing from voices that have different lives than I do that look different than me because I grew up in a very suburban white area of Texas. I want to keep learning what other people have gone through and what other stories are out there. And I always want to make sure that people have access to that stuff. I also as a consumer, don't want to have this limited and have a really high, expensive streaming service that just gives me a bunch of trash. There's a lot. Absolutely. I mean, I mean, and when you consider that like, look at all of the various networks or streamers and how all different their stories are,
Starting point is 00:08:54 but they're all interesting. Like it was an actual interesting race this past Emmys about who was winning what. So, you know, if you think about it, you had what? Not this year, but House of the Dragon. You had the penguin kind of going on there. You had White Lotus. You had the bear over with FX slash Hulu. You have hacks, which is also HBO. You have, what, Yellowstone, you have 1942, you have Fallout. Like, you had all these different studios and severance and, you know, Ted Lassau in recent years, all these different studios, which are presenting all these different stories, but they're all interesting and you're exactly right. Nothing comes out of a merger where they go, you know what we're going to do, make more content. When you merge something together,
Starting point is 00:09:40 because you were combining those companies, the point of it is to not spend as much money is to take whatever said resources that you like and to cut everything else. So you are not going to see more shows or more movies or more jobs. You're going to see less of all of that. And I, God, man, like I said, I'm also not trying to get super political about that.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I do that on plenty of other shows. There is nothing more disgusting than the White House saying, yeah, you know, you should really look at this one particular group as far as your buyer because they got shit done when they worked with us. That is literally the most disgusting anti-First Amendment shit. And I will leave it at that. I don't need to go deeper than that. If you're going to have a free market, then have a free market.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Okay. Like, period. I disagree with the merger no matter what it is because we don't need to be shrinking the industry. But the idea that someone, this is, it's almost like no one learned a lesson at all about what happened for like a week or two with Kimmel. You know what I'm saying? And again, we don't need to dive deeper into that because I know Christian doesn't really like to do that on this show, but that's enough to go, I don't like that at all. Like that genuinely infuriates me. Absolutely. It absolutely does. And if you guys do want to have more of that side and hear it from people who are far more educated than me, CNN,
Starting point is 00:10:59 obviously one of the companies under the Warner Brothers branch did put out a really interesting article just discussing the political tie-ins and everything today. So that might be something that other people could go look at. Absolutely. Absolutely, man. So I got it, but again, I got to give a major shout out to the sister union and the WGA. SAG, they kind of decide if they're going to, you know, grow a spine or not from time to time. Sometimes they are very much on the right side of history and say the right things. And sometimes they're just kind of like, so, you know, WGA tends to be at the forefront of all of this. They were the first to go on strike. Obviously, their deal ended before the SAG deal did. But they were very good at playing hardball early on in 2023. And so I am happy to see that they see the force from the trees and go, nah, bro, we're not going to let this happen and really flexing their muscle to try and stop it. Because again, I just think we, this would be bad for any industry.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Like, you don't need, the more you have the same type of stuff just kind of go together. a lot of people said, you're moving closer and closer to monopoly. And a monopoly is genuinely how things go completely sideways, especially if we live in a capitalist free market. You need competition. That is how you keep things fair. That is how you keep things even. And that's how you keep the variety of choice.
Starting point is 00:12:27 That is the main thing that is there for consumers above all else is having choice. Beautifully said. All right. Wonderful. With that being said, y'all get in the comments. Let me know what you're thinking. send in those super chats. Are you pro merger and you think that people are blowing this out of proportion?
Starting point is 00:12:46 Or do you agree that the less we have option-wise and studio-wise, the worse off it will be for everybody, top-to-bottom except for the top shareholders? You let me know what you think in the comments. We want to hear from you as we go on to this next story, which to acquire Warner Brothers Discovery, Paramount offered David Zazloff, co-CEOO, a role in a new, merged company. Now, this is from a comic book movie. Warner Brothers Discovery sent a shock wave through Wall Street and the entertainment industry when it confirmed it was up for sale. The ball got rolling when it was revealed that Paramount Skydance had made an offer to purchase the company. Since then,
Starting point is 00:13:26 other companies have reportedly pondered making an offer of their own, including Comcast and Netflix, though Netflix has since denied this. The Warner Brothers Discovery Board rejected Paramount's offer the latest of three on Tuesday, October 21st. Per Outers, Paramount made a $60 billion offer split into 80% cash and 20% in stock. The offer amounts to almost $24 a share, $23.50 to be exact, according to CNN business. According to routers, this offer was deemed too low by WBD. Paramount Skydance co-CEO David Eliasson, however, is not backing down. According to New York Times via the rap, wow, that's a lot of according to via somebody else,
Starting point is 00:14:05 in order to make its offer more attractive for the WBD board, Paramount offer Zazlov, the position of co-CEO and co-chairman of the company that would result from merging WBD and Paramount Skydance, as mentioned. Paramount's determination to purchase WBD is strong in a letter to the Warner Brothers Discovery Board obtained by the New York Times, Ellison wrote. We are confident that we are the best partner for WBD with a combination of our two companies created a scaled Hollywood champion to the benefit of... We've been on holiday tables for almost 100 years. From Thanksgiving dinners to New Year's celebrations. Damn you. We know a thing about making gatherings feel magical.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And we know a little convenience gives space for more connections. I can't find it. I don't know where it is. We're losing my mind. Oh my God. I'm so sorry, everybody. I need to not yell first of all because- I couldn't pause it. That was the problem.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I was being attacked by sound. Oh, God. Okay. According to CNN business, Warner Brothers Discovery and Paramount Skydats are playing their parts perfectly in the negotiations, which presumably means WBD intends to get paramount to raise its latest offer. For the outline, however, the company Zazlov considers good candidates to merge with WBD or actually Amazon and Netflix.
Starting point is 00:15:19 The latter, however, has expressed his interest in purchasing the studio. During a market analyst call via the Hollywood reporter, Netflix co-CEO, Ted Sarandos, stated the streamer is fairly uninterested in putting its hat in the ring for ownership of WVD. Nothing is a must for us to meet our goals that we have for this business. When it comes to M&A, mergers and acquisitions, opportunities, we look at them and we look at all of them, and we apply the same framework and lens that we look at when we look to invest. Is it a big opportunity? Is there an additional value in ownership?
Starting point is 00:15:51 We're predominantly focused on growing organically, investing aggressively and responsibly into the growth and returning access cash flow to shareholders. In simpler terms, Sarandos is stating that Netflix is more focused on growing organically rather than doing so through corporate acquisitions. Despite the rumors involving Netflix and Amazon, however, things aren't necessarily over for Paramount. This is because of what Ellison mentioned in his letter to the WBD board regarding the strategic benefit of merging WBD and Paramount Skydance. According to analysts via CNN business, Ellison is correct. Analyst Robert Fisherman of Moffat Nathanson, these names, an equity research publisher, for example, explained via the Hollywood reporter. First, as we previously acknowledged, a potential skydance paramount bid for the whole company, Makes a lot of strategic sense by owning a much stronger slate of IP at Warner Brothers
Starting point is 00:16:41 and seeking scale with the combined HBO Max and Paramount Plus platforms. Combining the linear network portfolios would also likely yield significant cost synergies while unlocking strategic benefits from pairing CBS News with CNN and leveraging the long-standing CBS Turner partnership for NBC's March Madness Final Four plus other overlapping sports rights portfolios. Oh my God, what a mouthful. Okay. This is more of what we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And that's the whole thing. I mean, A, anytime you're out here in these streets trying to sweeten the pot and be like, hey, man, on top of that, you know, what you could do is like, we'll let you stay in charge to, like, we'll be in charge together and we'll, like, do it together. And then we'll fire all these people together. It'll be so fun. We'll have a firing party. be the bestest time ever because that's all that last little statement that that analyst made meant about what the combining the linear network portfolios would also likely yield significant cost synergies cost synergies meaning like i've got Winston as a host i've got chris as a co-host
Starting point is 00:17:53 I don't need them both now that we've merged one of them can stay and one can go you know what I'm saying it'll be a lot of that you're your crisis management people cut it in half your casting people cut it in half. Your producers cut it in half. You literally will start cutting it in half because you are now one company. You do not need all of that. So anything else out of this particular story and Zazlov being offered the co-CEO to speak on this? Or does it feel like we're kind of just repeating what we said before, Chris? It's a little bit more of the same. I think actually Luke and I were talking about this before the show started and he sums this up really nicely. Luke, if you don't mind me just speaking what you said, of how Zazlov has done really great, you know, financial things for Warner Brothers, but as a people
Starting point is 00:18:39 person, maybe not so much. No. And I was trying to do a lot of research on this, too, just to make sure that I was speaking from a, you know, mindset of understanding the business as well as understanding that, you know, we both work in this. Our friends and family work in this industry. And hearing about all the layoffs as all this has gone on, the various departments being cut, what they've done to Cartoon Network.
Starting point is 00:19:03 just all kinds of things. It's hard as a creative in this field to find David Zazlap to be a good CEO. I understand why people think he is. I just have always seen him as a fire sale kind of guy. Everything's got to go. And I haven't seen him build anything and create anything. And he's one of the most high paid people in the world. And that's kind of crazy to me, especially when like you look at all those budget cuts
Starting point is 00:19:30 or the things you were just talking about. maybe these CEOs, I'm going to be very, very radical for a second here, maybe don't take billions of dollars for yourself. Dude. If you have to continually keep laying off people, selling off IP, getting rid of entire legacy bits of media, I don't think then you should get your holiday bonus, you know? Thank you. Thank you. Because he got, I'm trying to remember what his pay competition.
Starting point is 00:19:54 It was something insane that, like, he got paid like a $370 something million, like, deal. a couple years ago. And, um, and like now his like compensation in 24 was like 51.9 million. Like I and you are running a billion dollar studio. I will give you that. But it was something insane of like 300 something. And that 300 something was because it was like, well, I'm just going to cancel like half the block.
Starting point is 00:20:24 You know what I'm saying? And that, that, you know, then you can give me my money. And like, that's not, again, show me. something that he has put forth to like something grow. The only thing that I, to that knowledge that he's done like that is hiring gun to run these videos, but everything
Starting point is 00:20:41 else was already in the pipeline and he was just either axing it from continuing or not getting rid of it. You know what I mean? Because like, let's see. Since 2022, Zazlov received massive criticism by audience and industry figures for his decision to cancel projects
Starting point is 00:20:57 in order to claim tax write-off. Some of these projects practically finished, or in late stages of post-production, including Batgirl, coyote versus Acme, and Scoob, Holiday Haunt. Thasloff also received backlash for the removal of many of Warner Brothers
Starting point is 00:21:09 animated programs and select HBO live action shows from streaming platforms and pulled some of HBO Max's content general, including Final Space, TIG and Seek, Elliott from Earth, the Nevers, Infinity Train, Summer Camp Island, the Fungies, close enough, West World, the not too late show
Starting point is 00:21:25 with Elmo, that's hilarious. More content from Cartoon Network and Adult Swim, the entirety of the original Looney Tunes and Mary Melody's cartoons and nearly 200 episodes of Sesame Street. And I remember this just because I had friends who finally had been working their ass off for years had gotten their projects forward with Cartoon Network
Starting point is 00:21:46 or Adult Swim, as they mentioned those. And it was like a couple weeks before their shit was supposed to premiere, and it was like, nope, axed gone. That is what we see the writing on the wall. That's why WJ is speaking up. That's why people don't rock with this is because, again, this is not going to open the field.
Starting point is 00:22:05 This is only going to make super rich people a lot richer and screw up with people's dreams and outlets of trying to, like, find, you know, something that gives in there. I mean, I don't know if fan amators here, but bro, he must have lost his mind when they got rid of all that Cartoon Network and adults. Yeah. I did.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I was furious. I was flipping tables. I mean, dude, you just, just five, those are five more jobs you could have had. Yeah. Right. Well, and like two of the things I got booked on were these great, uh, independent, uh, shorts that I get to do. And I'm so excited. And it's these independent creators. And I feel like maybe that's the silver lining here is maybe we're going to have more people just go, you know what? I got to do my own thing. I got to figure out how to self-finance. I got to figure out how to do this stuff. And they stay away from some of these things.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And we have some of that indie growth happen. We see that with video games all the time, right? The indie gaming space is so amazing. right now. So if I'm going to try to make lemonade out of these lemons, maybe that's what happens here. But yeah, it's just, it's a bummer when you see so much iconic, fun, innovative stuff, just completely go the way at the dodo. A thousand percent, man. And I just, the funny thing is, is if we're, if we're keeping it a buck, this was a plan in place by a lot of rich people. That's why getting us kind of addicted to our phones like that and social media like that. It's easier to go, so we can get all this free content for us on these other platforms and shit and then maybe kind of leverage some of that because it's because if you think about it like i saw someone in the chat going on about they don't give a damn about looney tunesly like mr beast and and mr beast is a rare exception that made a lot of money for himself but think about that that was a bunch of free content put up for them to then capitalize off of one way or the other and that's the whole thing is it's instead of genuinely trying to get you know
Starting point is 00:23:57 the best out of people and pay them accordingly for it, it's the idea of we'll get all the free shit that we need, give a couple people some shit and then keep it pushing. And again, for the super rich at the top, that's good for you, I guess, but it is only going to hurt consumers and workers, period.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah. This is not a positive thing. So again, I'm glad to hear that there's push back. Also, be it was already stupid enough to make it Warner Brothers Discovery. Warner Brothers was fine. Discovery was fine.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Paramount was fine. It would be what? Warner Brothers Paramount Discovery Skydance. That shit sounds like a fucking law firm. Excuse me. I need to not swear on this show. It doesn't sound good. It sounds awful.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I hope they do it like when people mix up their names instead of hyphenating. You know, when people do that and they make it up. So it's just like, Parabros dance, war. It's just something. I mean, absolutely just. Worn. Bera brothers danced. Great.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And also, crashing coyote, you call me out there in the chat. I saw this. Yeah, Zazov hired James Gunn. That's great.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I'm very glad he did that. That was a good thing he did. But also, guess what? A broken clock is right twice a day. Exactly. This is the same kind of situation, though,
Starting point is 00:25:22 when you guys are like, Kathleen Kennedy's never done anything right. She has. But also there's a time for her to leave, right? Same thing here was Asloff is my thing. I totally understand he's done a few good things. There just haven't been enough building things for me. That's all.
Starting point is 00:25:37 But, you know, agree to disagree to. That's fine. Yeah, no, that's spot on, man. So again, let us know what you're thinking. You hear all that. Are you, again, do you think that's a stupid, stupid name? The worn pair of dance bros, discovery. Discovery, Warren.
Starting point is 00:25:57 It sounds like a stroke. I'm just going to be honest with you. It sounds like a stroke. You let me know what you think if you were rocking with any of them. And before we go on to our next stories, we got to give an amazing shout-out to these incredible sponsors
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Starting point is 00:27:05 of people trying to take away our geeky shit. So let's get into it. We've got this story from James Gunn. He says the DCU plans go significantly further than the man of tomorrow. But nothing is guaranteed. Josh Wilding reporting at the start of the start of the 23, DC Studios co-CEO. James Gun and Peter Safran announced the Chapter 1 Gods and Monsters Slate. While that years WGA and Sagafor strikes slowed things down a little, those movies and TV
Starting point is 00:27:35 shows haven't taken shape as quickly as fans hoped. Some, like Waller and the authority, appear to have fallen off by the wayside. Others such as Clayface and Manit Tomorrow have been added to the slate. It's also not clear how much of the DCU's future has been mapped out by Gun. Talking to
Starting point is 00:27:50 Boba Talks, the filmmaker confirmed that his grand plan for this franchise will extend beyond his Superman sequel. However, it sounds like the odds of seeing more of it hinge on many factors. Yes, they definitely go significantly further than manna tomorrow. Guns shared. So whether or not that'll be me that's able to fulfill that promise depends on a lot of things in life. What might those things be? Well, continued box office success is likely one of them.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Another could be the potential sale of Warner Brothers Discovery. A new, Jesus, it's just, it's everywhere. A new owner wouldn't necessarily come in in Firegun as he's already well on his way to restore the DC brand to its former glory. However, there is a possibility that DC would be sold off or that the new executives might have their own ideas for where the franchise should go that do not align with Gun's vision. While DC Studios is supposedly a separate entity from Warner Brothers Pictures, Gun is clearly still getting used to working hand in hand with other WBD-owned enterprises, including HBO. There have been there have already been rumblings about HBO executives being unhoused. happy with the cable network potentially being flooded with superhero content and gun is somehow in the dark when it comes to when we'll get the first teaser trailer for lanterns.
Starting point is 00:28:59 While he has seen a sneak peak he added, a sneak peek he added, I think at least where it is now, but I have no clue when that's planned to be shown. With HBO, the marketing is so different than film. As of now, it's looking like the plan for salvation to be a new take on dinosaur Island, which those of you who have read the new frontier will know was really an all-powerful entity known as the center. That's a big of enough threat to assemble the Justice League, right? Man of Tomorrow is set to come July 9th of 27. Okay, Chris.
Starting point is 00:29:34 So, you know, everybody gets to see a little bit more of why the merger was brought up again, because that is another good point. When we talk about the idea of the consolidation that happens with mergers, there's a possibility that, you know, what just got started could evaporate just as quickly. You know, and I just have a lot of thoughts, but I'm just curious of your mindset of both A, where you, how you feel about Gunn kind of talking about, yeah, we started some stuff, we didn't start some stuff. And then B, kind of following it up with, we have to see what happens. Like, I mean, where does your mind go kind of hearing what Gunn had to say on this recent interview?
Starting point is 00:30:16 It feels a little more like less in the dark, more coy. You know, of maybe some things will happen. Maybe some things will won't. I think he's trying to temper not only our expectations, but his own potentially of what's going to happen here. And I love how many ideas he has, but I do understand that pushback, too, of things getting oversaturated with superhero content. You know, we all at the beginning, for the most part, really enjoyed the Aeroverse. And then that kind of blew up and that's all the CW was. And then even Riverdale had superheroes and everything got very, very superhero oriented and got a little banana grams.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I don't think HBO would actually do that and have only superhero content. Right now we're really talking about like three shows. I don't think that's a big deal in the whole pantheon of HBO series. Right. But I do think, and this is why we as consumers do need to know about these mergers and everything. I think a lot of times it's very easy for us to go, oh, that has nothing to do with me. It has everything to do with you. It has everything to do with what you're paying.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It has everything to do with the content you receive. It has everything to do with if you continue to have the shows done in the way that you enjoy them. And so this is why we talk about this stuff, you guys. It's not just because we're giving you industry news. It's also because you get to vote with your dollar on this kind of stuff. Am I going to keep buying my HBO subscription? Am I going to do this? Am I going to go to the theater and see these things?
Starting point is 00:31:40 So it's very important that you all know about it as well. I just really feel like James Gunn is a really great idea guy. And I hope that he gets to continue working under the DC banner that he's already formulated and started doing. I just, I'm also trying to go, but it all could be taken away. It all could be taken away at any moment. That's the thing. If Superman or what gun had done so far had just been absolutely awful, then if they're like, whatever, we're starting over, then fine.
Starting point is 00:32:21 But overall, this has been good. So the idea of legitimately maybe cutting it off at the past, again, because of nonsense business shenanigans is crazy. This, like, I'm the type of person that, like, well, I will walk out of a movie if it's, like, really, really bad. But even then I'm more inclined to be like, I want to see how this ride, like, rides out. I already paid for it. Let me see how this is going. I've already invested time and money into it.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I want to see how it ends. And then if it's, like, really, really God awful and offending my sensibilities or something, then I might be like, nah, bro, it's not for me. I'm out. This idea that this could be done before it started. And I know a lot of people are like, man, weren't you the one that was losing your shit about the piece mega season ending? I was like, yeah, because I didn't love how that went in that direction. That doesn't mean I'm ready to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Yeah. I was just like that particular element wasn't for me, but I'm still on board with what's going on. So like, I am just hoping that we get to see this manifest. Because for all the people that are such hardcore like Snyderverse fans, for example, how upset would you have been if it had been man of steel, Batman v. Superman, and then it was just like, and game blouses, we're done. Sorry, regime changed. You're not getting anything beyond that.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Like, at least I understand that the inclination of like, well, we didn't get like the second Justice League, and we were just getting the, but you at least had time to have some of that try and work. You know what I'm saying? It would be heartbreaking. Take it to sports if it was like, yo, we started the season, oh and two, but then the season got canceled.
Starting point is 00:34:08 would be upset. You would be upset to be like, bro, we just had two rough games, but we were playing well. Like, we could have, we could have turned it around, but we didn't get a chance to. Yeah. I want to see this play out. I do not want this to be cut off early because of, you know, people trying to, but billionaires need another yacht. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, I don't know. It's just me. I get it. I've, I've seen a number of people. The more that this gets said, they're like, hey man, they're like, you know, people over Scott, if they like, they like Snyder, they're just going to bring back to Snyderverse. Sure, Jan.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And I love that some of you think that. That's great. And if that does happen, then I'm, look, I'm happy for you. But I, but let's, let's think in realistic terms here. The main thing that they want to do more than anything is make more money. And the one thing that the Snyderverse was having trouble doing near the end was making money. So unless there was a game plan that spelled out why we made this merger in the first place, the odds of that feel low to me.
Starting point is 00:35:13 It obviously started higher with the amount of money he was making. You know, Ako Manco cleared a billion. Batman v. Superman did like, what, 750 or something like that, 800? Wonder Woman cleared a billionaire was just under it. So like early on, but the last returns were not doing well. Like Black Adam and Second Shazam and all that they could not do with. they needed to do. So I don't necessarily see that happening. But again, we are curious what you think if you are on the same boat here. If you are curious in some of guns musings about stuff
Starting point is 00:35:46 kind of popping off or not. And the fact that salvation might be taken over for dinosaurs. But before we move on, Chris, that's a good question. What do you think about that part about salvation kind of being a new take for dinosaur island? Oh, I love it. Because I love New Frontier. Oh, my gosh. What a fun, fun run. I think everyone needs to read that one. It's required. It's required reading you guys go get it right now go to your local shop i think though that's going to be really really interesting and again this is this is what i like about dc right now and what i've enjoyed about you know previous marvel iterations is the the discovery the the taking something and doing something that i haven't seen on screen in this way yet and maybe flipping on it on its head a
Starting point is 00:36:27 little bit um for me part of that you know was things with marvel like oh my gosh we're doing what with the scrolls instead you know as a comic book fan i love it and i love it's love when we take something and we just tweak it a little bit so that I go into the year or two and go, oh my gosh, I had no idea we were going to do this. Or, you know, like what James Gunn did with Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3. I knew Rocket Story, but boy, did that devastate me the way that he interpreted it. And so I'm very excited to see Dinosaur Island because also, I mean, come on. Like, that's just fun.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That's just fun, ridiculous, popcorny kind of stuff. Which is fair. And that that make, like, because I've talked about this. I get that people love dinosaurs. I do not understand how people keep buying into Jurassic Park. Like, hey, man, we just watch these skyscraper-sized monsters just eat everybody. You know what we're going to do? Make another island full of them.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Because that seems to, we failed so miserably the first time. Let's make deadlier dinosaurs. That's the good life plan. We're a nation a coulda, shoulda, all right? So like, so to that point. You know, the difference is with that kind of like new frontier stuff. I mean, at least with that, it's,
Starting point is 00:37:42 remind me, is that the same spot with like the, they traveled through the center of the earth type shit? And then there's like the whole kingdom that has dinosaurs in it. Is that what we're talking about? Yeah. Okay. That at least is like, I was just, it was down there.
Starting point is 00:37:56 You know, it was just like it was kind of a portal. That's different than like, hey, let's just make a death trap. That's like, like, Halloween, do you go to these haunted houses where you have to sign waivers that they can essentially torture you and shit? Because there are people that love that. I don't. I just, I'm scared of everything. I, I know. I watched trick or treat for the first time last night and was just like, I hate this little guy's feet. I hate the sound of his feet moving. I was clutching a stepped animal the whole time. And that's a comedy horror. Like, I'm not going to a place where they can touch me.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Dude. Well, and well, like, it's beyond. that it's like uh they would like waterboard you they're like literally like screaming in your face and pulling your hair and shit and like chaining you to stuff like you sign away these rights to essentially be tortured i don't want to kink shame anybody or yuck anyone's yum that's great if that's for you no thank you not i want to i want to eat snacks and watch halloween town i want to eat snacks that's all i want i want to eat snacks and watch hollooleadown kiss my ass yeah yeah love That's it.
Starting point is 00:39:06 That's it. Absolutely love it. Well, let us know what you think about James Gunn, kind of giving the run. And we got a little bit more from Gunn right now. Man of Tomorrow, director James Gunn, on fan theories, potential villain, and who the title refers to. Is Mark Cassidy's report on comic book movie. DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn has been chatting to some of his favorite YouTube channels over the past couple of days, answering questions about Superman, Peacemaker, Season 2, and upcoming DCU projects. Gunn recently revealed that he is making good progress on Man of Tomorrow and has all.
Starting point is 00:39:35 almost finished the fourth draft of the script. He's now shared some minor updates with Go Read some comics, confirming that he is in the process of building costumes and doing all this sort of stuff for Manna Tomorrow. Host Jenna asked Gunn if he had read any fan theories about Manna Tomorrow that correctly guessed any plot points. He said that he hasn't read anything yet, but did suggest that people might be assuming that the Superman follow-up
Starting point is 00:40:00 was more connected to the events of Peacemaker Season 2 finale than it actually is, knowing that it is still very much its own thing. Gun did confirm that the Man of Tomorrow title refers to both Superman and Lex Luthor, and it sounds like this really will be more of a Lex movie with Cal Lell as a supporting character. As for Man of Tomorrow's villain, Braniac is a prevailing theory.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Gunn wasn't about to give away anything while speaking to Emergency Awesome, but did say that he's trying to make everything feel different to what's come before. Gunn has previously admitted that he knew the Brainiac theories would ignite when he shared the first page of The Man of Tomorrow's script, which featured the movie's title along with an image of a medical x-ray of a human's brain. Listen, of course, I wasn't unaware that I had posted the cover of the script that there was going to be discussion about that particular topic, he told EW. But I think we'll hold off from what exactly is happening. Even before this tease, fans have speculated that Brainiac might make the DCU debut in the Superman follow-up.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Back in August, an hour-long documentary about the making of Superman gave us a quick, glimpse of a storyboard featuring the Man of Steel Supergirl Crypto and what looked a lot like the top of Brainiac's head. Though there was a chance this was simply an unused idea for Superman. Many fans remained convinced that the super intelligent villain will make his DCU debut in Manna tomorrow. Do you think Brainiac's going to be the villain? What are you making the notion of a Lex Luthor focused movie, etc, etc. Okay. I'm sure everybody caught my very exasperated sigh in the middle of that.
Starting point is 00:41:31 and I'm just going to go ahead and address it right now. It was because the one thing that James kept saying is like, yeah, man, Peacemaker Season 2 is going to set up hurting. It's going to be so important to what comes next, et cetera, et cetera. So then to turn around and go, the events of the season two finale, it's still, it's very much its own thing. People are assuming it's connected. They're not really that connected.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I'm just like, damn it. Like, I got in a tizzy about all of this because you essentially made the end of this kind of be just an immediate sequel type stuff. Yeah. I want these things to feel connected but be their own individual things. That is what was desired. It is the opposite. Hearing that is the opposite of what he was saying in the previous stuff. So my sigh was from a place of just, have you ever watched a kid?
Starting point is 00:42:33 in like a grocery store or a toy store where like your ass is just trying to get to the eggs. We're here for eggs and butter and some lettuce and we have to go. And the kid is like, oh, and dragging a cart over the lucky charms, oh, and dragging a cart over to the recipe. Oh, and dragging a cart over to the ice cream. I'm like, put the shit back.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I need you to stay focused. We got to get home. Let me shop how I want to shop, Winston. Let me be impulsive at Trader Joe's. My question is, who paying the money, okay? You got the money to be shopping like this, okay? No. Or do you need, or are we here for a few items so we can get home and make breakfast and or dinner?
Starting point is 00:43:19 Because I said eggs and lettuce. I don't know what meal we're making. Okay, I am confused. But, like Chris. Ah, good old egg lettuce omelets. It's a good time. So you guys said spinach would have made sense. But no.
Starting point is 00:43:34 It would have made too much sense. We really need that calorie deficits. So we're like the one with the more water, that's what we're getting. Well, what do you make of guns comments about made it tomorrow? No, I had a similar thing because I went full like Tyre Banks in that moment of like, I was rooting for you. We all were. Because I kept defending this so much. I'm like, no, no.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I think this is going to be like a little tidbit that takes us over here. I think like we're making sure that maybe we don't do that thing that Marvel did where we have to have all the homework. and this way you can just kind of reference something. But this feels like now that it was pretty superfluous. And that's a bummer. I still like that I watch this show. I'm still glad that this show exists. I'm very, very pleased about that.
Starting point is 00:44:14 But if you tell me, I'm going to stick with the food analogy here. If you tell me I'm getting a carbunera. Yeah. And then you throw something out on a plate that's got a whole bunch of like cream sauce. That's not the same thing. No. You know, words have meaning. Words have expectation.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And so the expectation. has been, this gives me more of this. These are all continuations of each other. They're all yes and in one another in some kind of way. I don't mind a stand alone as long as it is a very insular thing then. Like a werewolf by night, for example. I love that. That's great. I'm totally cool with DC doing stuff like that. Elseworld's kind of stories. Amazing. Love that kind of stuff. But why bring in Lex? You know, why bring in these things if it really isn't that continuous? story. It just feels misleading. It feels then like a way of, well, let's get people on board with watching Peacemaker this season or something. It feels more like a ratings move for a pop than something that is to actually help the trajectory of the DCU, which does not feel like a gun move, if I'm being honest. Right. So I, the whole article here just leaves me befuddled more than anything. No, I fully agree with you because again, I'm not. I'm not. anti the idea of that happening. Think about like, you know, the end of Iron Man and you have Nick Fury come in and being like, you know, I want to talk to you about the Avengers initiative or the end of that Incredible Hulk right afterwards and being like, you're seeing Iron Man and Nick Fury discussing Hulk. You know, the idea that they're connected like that and you could just have a little bit of a teaser of it is fine. You made the focus of the end of this season to be the
Starting point is 00:46:03 that Lex is heavily involved. Yeah. So the idea that they're not genuinely working together, then what was I watching? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's one of those things where I was, whatever my beef was with how that finale went, just the idea of like,
Starting point is 00:46:23 okay, for better or for worse, this is where we're going. You know what I'm saying? So then to turn around and be like, but actually they're not that connection. What? Like, that's, that's, that's it. Don't, don't tell me I'm going to Disneyland and then be like, well, we can't actually make it to Disneyland.
Starting point is 00:46:40 We're going to go over to Universal Studios and said, okay, sure. And then the minute we're almost, you know, two there, it's like, so, you ready for Disneyland? I was ready for Harry Potterland now. Yeah. And now you're telling me, now I'm actually going back to a, I'm excited to go to Avengers campus. But like, that is, make up your mind. I haven't been yet, so I don't know. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I haven't been, I haven't been to that or Galaxy's Edge. I haven't been to either one because I don't go to Disneyland. Oh, Galaxy's Edge, you'll lose your mind. Yeah, I haven't been to either one, so I really want to go. I really want to go. I cried. I walked in and I just started crying. I felt so immersed. The first time I did the Rise of the Resistance ride, I forgot to breathe.
Starting point is 00:47:22 How are you here? Isn't that like a 10, 15 minute ride? No, I mean, I eventually took a breath. Oh, I was like. And I haven't since. I haven't breath since. I haven't. I haven't breathed since.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Never again. But that's all. It's just from the standpoint of, I think like most people, when you are anticipating something and whether that be a ride you're going on, of meal you're going to have, a game you're going to watch, whatever it is,
Starting point is 00:47:53 to be told it's not that thing, but then it'll be jerked around and be like, it is that thing, it's not that thing, it is the thing, it's not that thing. That is what, is now I'm frustrated because I also have been very much like, yo, let Gunn cook. Like what, like shut up. Just leave him alone.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Yeah. Leave him alone. And right now I'm, I'm just getting a baby bit frustrated because it feels like I'm going to get a different answer every day. Yeah. That's when I think that's going to be the nature during this merger, unfortunately. Too. It's just going to be like, everything.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Who's to say? Yeah. Yeah. No, absolutely. Well, Gun did talk a bit about. about Arkham Asylum and Waller. So let's talk about that real quick. This is Dark Horizons report.
Starting point is 00:48:38 At one time, back before the Batman hit cinemas, filmmaker Matt Reeves was planning out to spin-offs for HBO Max. One focus on the Gotham City Police Department and the other on Arkham Asylum. The Gotham PD series project was scrapped, with elements of that show integrated into the HBO produced the Penguin TV series. Arkham was originally scrapped. But after James Gunn and Peter Saffron became CEOs, it was retooled to fit into the new DCU continuity with Reeves still aboard. The project, which had Antonio Campos, a showrunner, seemed to flounder in development for a few years until July 2024 when it was revealed that the project was canceled.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Speaking to Bobo Talks this week, Gunn confirmed the project is dead when asked if there were any hope to resurrect the series. Hope, sure, but that isn't something that's being developed by anyone right now, you know, just didn't work. Gunn also touched upon the long in-development TV series Focus on Amanda Waller, Viola Davis playing Waller. Speaking with emergency autism, Gunn says scripts are still being worked on and that the series would address a handful of things about the character. That includes what she's been up to during the events of the second season,
Starting point is 00:49:47 A Peacemaker, and other DC projects like Superman and upcoming Manna Tomorrow. Gunn's last update on the series came earlier this year during the Peacemaker, season two, Red Carpet, when you confirm the series that progressed only slowly since its announcement. Um, okay. Let me see what the, that, okay, we'll come, we'll come back to that in a second. Um, so just to kind of reiterate, and I don't need to go super deep on this unless there's something else there, Chris, again, with the idea of getting my chain yanked back and forth, I 100% understand that development on stuff sometimes falls apart happens all the time. Like anybody that knows anything about, about, uh, you know, TV and film. stuff is yeah this sounds good and something goes wrong a budget a major player drops out
Starting point is 00:50:35 murders out etc right this is part of why the main thing that i have said about star wars about marvel about dc announce a couple things announce one to maybe three things coming in the next x amount of time and then stop telling us a slate for the next five to ten years because you were just going to upset people that were excited about things. This is, again, the same thing. If you promised me a pizza party. And then I'm sitting here waiting and I'm like, I ain't bring no lunch today because we having a pizza party.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And then it's like, so is the pizza coming? Nah, we're not. We're sorry that the pizza party didn't work out. We kind of counted our budget before we had it. That is my frustration. genuinely my frustration is just this idea of being promised all the stuff that we're not ultimately getting. Every now and again, totally understand. But to feel like you name 10 things and only three of them are coming to fruition.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And then that is my issue. It is better to what, under promise and over-deliver than to over-promise and under-deliver. Yeah. That's just me. What do you, what do you think, Chris? Oh, absolutely. And this is where I think we kind of get the the business side of everything taking over stuff because you do have to let investors know what your slate is. But I don't think to your point, we have to let them know that far in advance. You know, a decade from now, we're going to be doing this. This is what we'll be doing. Oh, in the next five years, this film will come out. I think filling out what you're doing through Q1 and Q4 of a year suffices. Sure. And I think, obviously, with films, they do take longer to make. There is a lot of planning and everything involved. There's all these production things. You have to coordinate. All the talent.
Starting point is 00:52:31 You have to coordinate, coordinate, etc. But I think if you just make sure that, again, you temper everyone's expectations by then doing a, here's what we have on deck right now. And that way, too, you can actually make decisions based on those films as opposed to then being reactive and going, oh, everything we have planned, we have to get rid of. you know, there's there's the old adage. If you want to make God laugh, make a plan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:58 That's kind of how filmmaking is. Filmmaking is Murphy's law. Everything that can go wrong will go wrong. Absolutely. The fact that we're talking about stuff that's so far down the pipeline, it just is setting folks up for failure and setting folks up for not having their expectations met. So if you do want to have everyone excited about an announcement, then you just need to make sure that all your ducks are in a row.
Starting point is 00:53:20 You know what I mean? Not promise something and not deliver it. that's that's it and that's all i like most consumers are are literally just little kids and they just want to to be entertained and have a good time i really need dad to stop promising me that he's going to pick me up and we're going to go and play basketball and go camping okay i just want to go play basketball and go camping i don't i don't want to be sitting at the door with my basketball all up on my side and my little fishing pole and and my little sleeping bag and he's not coming. It's so sad.
Starting point is 00:53:58 That's what this feels like over and over and over again. Look in the group chat. Luke is in the private chat just going, yo, this just got dark. I promise. This is the time. Time he shows up, Mom. He just said he was getting cigarettes. Jesus, you are such a good voiceover artist.
Starting point is 00:54:26 That was a really good little Timmy. Little Timmy just wants to go camping. That's all. That's all. Well, are you that poor child that just wants to go camping and play basketball with daddy, but he won't actually show up. Let us know in the super chat, send those in. Let's go into another story real quick.
Starting point is 00:54:51 So the DC Studios just registered Salvation Run trademark for a film and more. This is Josh Wilding reporting. Peacemaker's season two ended with the Rick Flagg Sr. Utilizing like Luthor's help and finding salvation, a dimension housed with the quantum unfolding chamber that Argus can send its captured meta-human's villain. It's captured meta-human villains. Now, able to open, direct, randomly placed doorways to that parallel reality, flag can strand whoever he wants there, they have zero chance of escape.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Chris Smith is currently there alone, but noises in the four suggest that the world is inhabited by some mysterious creatures, the prevailing theories that salvation is a new take on dinosaur island. In the comics, The Salvation Run storyline saw Amanda Wallerson supervillains to an alien planet called Sickness 4019 via boom tube. It was eventually revealed to be where Desaad was training Darkside's parademans, and Lex and the Joker each led separate factions of villains who try to create a new society in a bid to survive their prison. I did actually read this run after Peacemaker season two, and it is fantastic, but I have my issues with this idea. Much of that won't make it into the
Starting point is 00:55:56 DCU, but a Salvation Run project could still be on the horizon. DC Studios has today registered a Salvation Run trademark for a film. It also includes comic books, printed materials, luggage, athletic bags, clocks, watches, clothing, toys, and entertainment services. Rather than confirming plans for a Salvation Run feature, this is likely James Gunn and Peter Safran making sure their bases are covered for the future. Stories are bound to play out in salvation down the line, though especially as we know, Gunn is keen to revisit Peacemaker and what's become of the former Task Force X member. That could happen as soon as Manit Tomorrow, but it's when the alternate dimension is full
Starting point is 00:56:33 of supervillains that things get really interesting. I like the concept of creating this prison that was absolutely inescapable, but was also a little rash, Gunn said earlier this month, because they think it's not dangerous from their initial test, but in the comics and in this world. obviously there's hints of it being dangerous. It really is about the concept. He added confirming that we're not getting a direct adaptation of the comic based on a pitch from the Game of Thrones, Arthur, George R.R. Martin.
Starting point is 00:56:57 The part that really spoke to me was the beginning of it where Rick Flagg Jr. and Amanda Waller said, F it, MetaHumans are a pain in the ass. Let's just get rid of them permanently. And of course, there are a bunch of repercussions about sending a bunch of bad guys to another dimension. In this case, kind of, you know, the sole person there right now. is a good guy who has to survive on his own. Man it tomorrow again, July 9th, 2027.
Starting point is 00:57:22 So, yeah, I did read the salvation. Okay, because I haven't. It was after it all, I was like, I need to know more about this. And it's actually genuinely fascinating. Do you remember the end of Justice League Unlimited, where essentially a faction between Gorilla Grod and Lex breaks out of who's fighting over the Legion of Doom? It's kind of like that.
Starting point is 00:57:43 You send all of these metahuman, or like super villains to this planet, they realize that they're trapped there. They're pissed off. And you get the Joker on one end who's like, cool, let chaos reigns supreme. And some of the villains being on board and Lex being like,
Starting point is 00:57:58 F that, we're going to go home. And he has a bunch of intellectuals that go with him. And then you have Vandal Savage who just makes a harem and goes, nope, I'm going to go start a cult over here. Screw you guys.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And gets a bunch of female supervillains to go follow him as he goes and tries to start a new world order off to the side. And then it becomes like essentially a free way clash of Titans of these like different things of them deciding how they're going to do this if we're going to make a boom tube to get home
Starting point is 00:58:23 if we're going to rule on chaos or if I'm just going to live on my little compound over here and then they find out that the Assad has been training these parademons so now they're all scrambling to fight the parademons while this is happening and then Lex being Lex at one point is using some other villains and their powers as its human batteries so kind of like in the
Starting point is 00:58:39 Justice League Unlimited where he used Tala to be like I don't actually care about you I just need Joe Powers to get Brainiacs so I'm a sacrifice your ass. I don't care. It's crazy. It is a fantastic story. Here's my problem. You both, A, kind of need a whole bunch of villains established in order to do this, and we're just starting off with this universe. B, a lot of people die. So it makes more sense to have that either be an elseworld's thing or be later down the line than to feel like we're doing this already, unless the idea is we're going to hit maximum capacity of villains being shipped off
Starting point is 00:59:13 to this place. So it just seems like, like we are moving as fascinating as a story that it is, it just feels too soon for me. Oh, absolutely. Where my mind is at. That paragraph you read is absolutely nuts. Like, oh, and then the parodemans come and you're like, oh, the parodemans, of course, right? You not only have to establish so many characters, but you also have to establish more lore. Because right now we have metahumans are established, but we haven't gotten into the
Starting point is 00:59:45 magic stuff in D.C. yet. We haven't really gotten that much into all of the demonic things in DC. Those are other things that we have to build up to so we can't just be like, here's a demon. They're coming for you. You got to have a little bit of runway. Exactly. No, I agree with you. And so, again, I think them ultimately doing it would be fascinating. I mean, you even have a scenario where to make sure the villains will get out of control, the Justice League sends in Martian Manhunter. So he's like working as a mole in between it, but then they figure it out. And eventually, like, he's running and he's holding off and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:21 But they catch him and they put him in a fire prison. And then they just leave him there. Like, at a certain point at the end, when they're all, like, running away, they just kind of forget that Martian Manhunter was in that fire prison. They just leave him burning on the Sads planet in a fire prison. Like, it's crazy. And it sounds- Because John Jones hasn't gone through enough.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Has it gone through enough. So, I, again, it would be so. good of a story to see. But like, this is the type of thing that, like, I either would want to have seen like during the Snyder run of things just because you were more established or just give me some time to get these villains to go, yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:00 Exactly. Then give me, then give me super villain hunger games. 100%. You know? So. And I don't know. I'm seeing in the chat too.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Creature Commandos, Creature Commandos. Most people did not watch Creature Commandos. Right. Most people who go see movies. did not watch this. So that's just most of us in our bubble watched it. I know my non-comic book friends did not watch it. I know, again, my litmus test is always my parents. They don't know what the hell that show is. So you have to introduce on screen, the big screen, the concept of all of those things. Absolutely. Absolutely. I completely agree with that. So, but let us know. Let us know
Starting point is 01:01:41 in the comments what you think. Keep sending in those super chats. We're at about 24, 25 right now. So we got a long hill to climb at 137, but we definitely can do it. We got 15 minutes left. We have one last story. Then we'll start answering your questions. So any Muscietti intends to direct the Brave and the Bold, but can't talk about it for a couple of months. This is Josh Wilding reporting. The DC Studios announced the DCU Gods and Monsters Chapter 1, Slade in 2023. One of the most exciting sounding projects for the fans was the Brave and the Bold. James Gunn confirmed the idea was to tell a story of Batman training his son Damien as the new Robin. The filmmaker and DC studios co-CEO's intention to adapt elements of Grant Morrison's Batman run was well received, especially as it pointed at the DCU having an established bat family. Understandably, others have been less keen on the notion that the Brave and the Bold will gloss over the stories of characters like Dick Grace and Jason Todd and Tim drank, myself included.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Gun has since hinted that the Brave and the Bold has undergone some big changes. We've been on holiday tables for almost 100 years. Oh, God, I hate it. Kind of sent in that the brave of the bold has undergone some big changes as the script is being worked on with the prevailing theory that it would no longer revolve around Damien.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Flash director Andy Mushietti and his sister, Barbara Mushietti, recently spoke with variety about it. Welcome to Derry. Asked if they're still working on the DCU Batman movie, Andy will direct. Producer Barbara said, The intention is yes, but we can't talk about it.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Andy added, We have to wait a few, a couple months to start talking about it. I screwed it already. It seems he was too, he said too much by mentioning that, though this isn't too much of a surprise. We've been on Gunn, once again, meeting with Select Press at the start of 26, where he'll update them on the DC Studios' plans and likely share some details, some date details. Heck, we even finally get to find out who's playing Batman, something that must have become clear to gun this year as he promoted Superman and people. Seesmaker season two is that fans are losing patience with his apparent inability to cast the Cape Crusader. Recently, Gunn said he likes where the Brave of the Bolt script is, but caution that some things have changed
Starting point is 01:03:50 and that plenty of things are in flux on what his situation is with his parentage and all that stuff. When he was pushed on that comment and asked if Damien is still in the movie, he replied, I think you have to wait and see exactly what's happening. People can guess, and maybe they'll be right about certain things, we'd have to screen test. we'd have to do this to do the whole thing. He later said of the casting that he's used Bruce Wayne before adding, okay, I see what you're doing. In 1923, it's a really good TV show.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Like, I can't believe how good that show was. He later noted one actor in particular, a pretty big star wants to be Batman. We've talked about it, but I don't think that's the case. Like we referenced to Richson, who took himself out of the running after saying he met with gun. Stay tuned for more brave and the bull. Okay. I have a prevailing theory here that just hit me because I'm realizing I'm seeing. seeing a lot of myself here.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I think that gun is a high functioning person with ADHD because I have been like, yo, and then you know what I'm going to do, bro?
Starting point is 01:04:52 I'm going to soundproof this entire room. It's going to be crazy. It'll be just like a whole studio. Oh, and then on top of that, bro, every time, every single time I do something,
Starting point is 01:05:02 I'm going to be able to be like, oh, yo, check this out. All these ideas. I have all these crazy ideas. is. And when I'm able to execute them, they are so sound and so good, right? But the problem is, I throw like a hundred things out there and I get like two of them done. And it drives a lot of crazy. So it is one of those things where I have said multiple times that ADHD is a thousand
Starting point is 01:05:28 percent of superpower. But there's a reason why I'm only allowed to talk about so many things because I can't always get it all. Like you said, I DM in this and this and this all. And then this was the ultimate person to write a script. This is the ultimate person to play with your toys with and all that kind of stuff and come up with scenarios. But like there's a reason why like I have to be rained in a little bit. And so I think that we're talking about somebody who is incredibly high functioning
Starting point is 01:06:04 because look at all of the incredible stuff that he has done over the years. I'm just realizing I'm seeing so much of myself in him that I'd finally clicked that I was like, oh, there we go. What do you think, Chris? That makes a lot of sense. Logan has bananas ADHD. And I am pretty type A. And so I think that's where, you know, you have the Peter Safran dynamic, hopefully, of.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Yeah. Sure. Okay, buddy, I hear you. I see you, but why don't we do this? Hey, why don't we try this? Can you give me a plan? Can we pick two of those ideas? Why don't we throw away one of them for today? That's the hope. My biggest takeaway with this article, though, about Andy Michietti is I love the phrasing, I intend to direct this. It's like, yeah, man, I intend to lose weight and get out of debt, but here we are. I don't know. I'm trying my best. It feels like the Texan phrase. fixin. I'm fixing to do that because time is nebulous and who's to say. So I feel like this is just a kind of nothing burger moment of yeah. Yeah, I'm sure you would really like to direct this. You were the first person who was announced to be doing this project. A lot of people like the it movies. I can't speak to those because I haven't seen them. I wasn't a particularly big fan of the Flash, but I know a lot of people like his other work and are very excited about Welcome to Derry. I just don't think that this is something that's going to happen right now
Starting point is 01:07:35 based on the way people keep talking about the brave and the bold of we really need to revisit the script or this part isn't coming together. We still have a lot of work to do on here. I think this is going to get so reimagined that somebody else is going to get on board. It's starting to feel a lot like Edgar writes Antman. Yes. This idea of like it's been talked up, it's been talked up, it's been talked up. And then it's just not. And what I worry even worse is that, because eventually we did get an Ant Man,
Starting point is 01:08:05 I'm more worried that we end up in Blade territory. And then it feels like it. But the thing is, you can't do that with Batman. But part of the reason why that might still happen, at least for a while, because you have a Batman story being told by Reeves. Whether or not you actually bring it in or not, because Batman exists in some form of fashion and media, it feels like there isn't as much of a rush to necessarily do it one way or the other. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:32 So like that is that is kind of where for this universe to succeed, Batman needs to be in it. But there isn't necessarily a rush to do that because audiences will get a Batman. Yeah. So it's really, it's just really interesting one way or the other to kind of see how this plays out. It's kind of wild to me that it sounds like the way Muscietti said this, but we can't talk about it. It's not just
Starting point is 01:09:04 the intention, like you said. It's the idea of like somebody came up to me like, do not talk about this again. Yeah. Be quiet. I don't love that. That literally felt like a, yeah, my mom said I can't talk about Batman no more. I have to
Starting point is 01:09:20 just do my homework and go home. Like, you know, so that's the only thing that I was like, But either way, I'm curious. We've talked about this before. I never liked the idea of jumping over, the article nailed this, jumping over Dick, Jason, and Tim.
Starting point is 01:09:38 I think they're too paramount, and they all deserve their time to shine. And the only way that I would have been okay with that, to be honest with you, I know they mentioned the Dynamic Duo series. If that was something that we were for sure getting and was coming out beforehand and we got our explanation as to why we got here,
Starting point is 01:09:55 I'd be okay with that. there is no Damien without the lessons Bruce learned from his three previous wards. Call it four because Barbara had already been there too. Yeah, absolutely. No. So. But what do you think are, do you think Andy Mooscietti is still doing it?
Starting point is 01:10:13 Who are you trying to see is Batman? Do you think it's sad? Any of the things that we talked about, get those super chats in. Let us know where your mind is at. And before we get on to the questions and whatnot, We have a couple more incredible sponsors that we want to share with you right now. I'm going to paint a scenario for you.
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Starting point is 01:12:22 We released an episode about Batman the animated series. talking about characters were created on that show, going into the animation style, the minds behind it, what they got right on it, why it's so iconic. It's with my good pal Pete Delgado. It's so, so great. Go check that out. And then over at SpreeKend Studio, we've got classes coming up. Next week, I've got an intro to VO boot camp. So if you want to learn about VO, go to speakfriendstidio.com.
Starting point is 01:12:46 For all your two filthy casuals stuff, just go to at Two Filthy Casuals pod wherever you get your podcast on YouTube or on Instagram or TikTok. That's absolutely wonderful. And you know where to find me at the swaggy Blurred on all platforms here on YouTube on Mondays. I got the Blurred breakdown, the pop culture show for when you need to know, see what happened was. You got spill the tequila myself and John Roka on Tuesdays. You got Blurds in the hood, myself and Jay Washington on Wednesdays. Obviously here on Fridays, this Saturday and Sunday, two more videos of myself and Christian watching Demon Slayer. We were having a great time. We just finished last week. the big fight with the main spider boss and demon slayer. And now this next couple episodes, for those that are familiar, is him meeting the, what are they called? The Hashirama? No, whatever the Hashirah, whatever the main demon slayers. Oh, Chris is, Chris is in the background.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Chris, what's their name? The Hashira. The Hashira. Thank you. So meeting the Hashirah and they're crazy. You need to see Christians' reaction to all the personalities of the Hashira. It is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:13:56 It is genuinely hilarious watching and be like, what is going on with these people? But we're having a lot of fun, so check those out. And then the big thing that I have going this Sunday, myself and Jay, we're doing a blurt-a-thon. We were doing a marathon stream from 10 a.m. Until who knows when we turn the lights out, and we got a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:16 We're going to be playing games. We're going to be watching some NFL football, watching some movies, talking shit. We're doing, we did a, We did a Avengers draft an episode of two ago. We're going to be doing a Justice League draft. We got a lot of surprises popping off. So definitely check all of that out this weekend and beyond.
Starting point is 01:14:36 So, all right. We are at 27 right now, Chris. Okay. And it's 137. So we can do this 110 in about 35 minutes. I believe in all of you. We can do this together. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:56 We're going to start off with, hey, Mr. C.J, put a record on the vone it days with my baby. Caps and Cows, roll out. And of course, he follows that up with the all-important comments that we all know here. I wish I knew. I wish I knew. Thank you so much, Mr. C.J. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:15:17 J.C. Cleaver. Support for the dynamic duo. You already know what it is. Winston, have you seen? I'm going to get you sucker. Thoughts on Trigun or anime. Trygun is great. Highly recommend it.
Starting point is 01:15:30 I have seen I'm going to get you sucker when I was like five or six. So I don't really remember it. So that actually is a good movie to rewatch and maybe do a reaction to or something like that. But I have seen. I just don't remember it as well as like I watched, don't be a menace to South Central or drinking you juice in the hood, like maybe a million times. That's one of my favorite movies of all time, but I need to rewatch it. Have you seen?
Starting point is 01:15:57 Have you seen I'm going to get you, Suggler? I have not. I would love to watch that with you. I feel like you would have a great time watching that movie. Hell yeah. Let's do it. Bet. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Then Chris and I will talk after this. We're going to figure out the timing to do all that. Yay. And then what do you think about Trigon? Oh, I love Trigod. I haven't watched the new anime that's coming out of it. I haven't either. But I really like the OG.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Vasha Sampede? Come on. Absolutely. Vasha Stampede is the best. Oh, Drygun Stargaze. Yeah. I'm not familiar with it. I just started it to my cue. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to check it out. I just started Dondadon. Ooh, okay. So good. I didn't think it was going to be. I was like, this seems kind of weird. But the intro slaps. It's kind of why I started it. My sister is working on a project right now. And she's like, you watch Dondadon, right? I was like, no. She goes, what? So she played the intro song for me. It goes so. hard. Oh my God. It was enough for me to go, all right, let me sit down and see what this anime is about. And it's weird, but it's a good weird. So, I highly recommend. All right. Also,
Starting point is 01:17:03 thank you, because I've been saying Dan to Dan. Like a new. You'll, you'll see when you, when you start watching it, if you start watching it, like, they'll immediately start singing it. Dun, dun dun dun dun dun. Okay. What did Luke say? The first episode of Dandda-da-da-don is so different than the rest of the show. It's great. Yeah, it is very different because you have to kind of get, they're establishing, like, the art style is a little bit more avant-garde. And then I think Christian would love it because it is all about the supernatural and the extraterrestrial. It's about aliens and, like, witches and curses. So, like, I actually think he would love it a lot. So we got to get him to D. That's awesome. And then we'll bring him back around.
Starting point is 01:17:47 I'm Winston from Joshua Gonzalez. Winston, your thoughts on the basketball scandal. It's awful. It's crazy. I saw someone be like, it feels like Nico Harrison might have been involved in some former fashion of the way he traded away Luca. Do you know what's going on right now? No.
Starting point is 01:18:06 So a number of basketball players and coaches, which one of the, the main coach, Chauncey Billups is a former player themselves, have all been arrested by the FBI for essentially fixing games and like a bunch of gambling scandals both for poker games but then also for basketball games so you had like a dude who is being charged with like yeah he's straight and and the mob is involved as well and all this stuff and the idea that like oh yeah this dude was like i you know my my over you know my stat line is supposed to be at like you know 15 points this game i'm gonna fake an injury so i end up on the under so then people would people would be putting like 200 grand on a stuff and then getting massive payouts.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And apparently this is going on for a long time. The FBI busted all this shit wide open. Dang. It is, it looks bad. It looks really, really bad. I'm very excited about the movie based on all of this.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Oh, the 30 for 30 going to hit so hard. I cannot wait. But what's wild to me is this idea of like, you are making millions of dollars. That's where this feels like this is maybe the high off of this or the mob has you by the nuts because why are you risking your career, your freedom, all that? When you already make millions to go win like 100K, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:19:28 That shit is absolutely been in it. So I almost got to believe that some of them maybe got like we're gambling off to the side. And then they ended up in a scenario where they're in a hole and they're like, you're going to do this thing or we're going to, we're going to, it's going to be crazy. It is going to be absolutely crazy when we get to the end of all of this. So I'm still watching the news to see how it's playing off, but it's been nuts so far. Dylan Neal can't catch the show live today, but here's some support for you two beautiful people. And congratulations on the engagement. Thank you, Dylan.
Starting point is 01:19:58 I appreciate that. Thank you. Engagement bliss and more support. Thank you, Dylan. Go pal comes in saying, it just occurred to me that both of you are Texans. Who's the street and who's the riggids, leaving out the horrific injury part? Straight and Wiggins. As in like Friday Night Lights.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Oh, okay. I was an extra on that show and then I never, never watched it. Oh, dude. Wait, you were? Do you remember what was happening in the episode? Because I watched that show religiously because I might be able to remember. You don't remember. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I did a lot of football scenes and then I would just be like a kid in a classroom. Got you. I got my beer money. It was my first experience on a professional set. It was great. Because like for me, I was in, I did extra work in the show Greek. And I remember there was like some like formal,
Starting point is 01:20:52 um, uh, like happening some formal ball and like some dude was fighting over some girl. And then they punch each other out and I was standing over. Like, oh shit, you got knocked out. Like kind of like Chris Tucker in a Friday.
Starting point is 01:21:04 But obviously I wasn't a main character. I was an extra. So like I'm biming this in the background. And then if you watch episode four of community, uh, where Pierce, played by Chevy Chase, gets this thing called earnoculars, which are supposed to be binoculars for your ears.
Starting point is 01:21:21 You can see a very lost community college student walking back and forth, it feels like to a class that he has no idea where it is. Because Chevy took so long to get his lines right. We were there for hours that they just kept sending me back and forth. So clearly they were using a bunch of different takes. And so I literally looked like I have no idea where I'm going. I have the most lost student ever.
Starting point is 01:21:43 So just go back and watch the, it's the fourth episode and it's in the cafeteria kind of like student union area and you just see me in the back, just back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Sweet. I want to look for it. Oh, but which, which, who is who? I guess because I'm hosting, I guess I'm street near Riggins, but that means you're the drunk and I'm the paraplegic. Because he said, I'm even the horrific, the horrific injury part. So, you know, we'll just tag team that way. But I mean, you guys don't know what's in this coffee cup.
Starting point is 01:22:16 So sure. Dylan, Neil, with more support. Thank you. And then Dylan says, last one, I got to go now. Get these two to 200 guys. Please, that would be awesome. Thank you, Dylan, so much for coming in and trying to help out. Armada, have y'all seen the Fallout series?
Starting point is 01:22:34 Y'all should get Christian to react to it with y'all before season two drops. I know what? I haven't seen it. I sure. Oh, it's so fun. As much as I love fallout, like the games, I just, I was late and then I was like, I'll get to it eventually. I've heard good things, but I haven't seen it. It's a good time.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I was, I was Lucy for Halloween last year. Because I just look like, I look like a vault dweller. Just I just, that's my default face. That's genuinely hilarious. All the time in complete earnest. And the first time I watched that show, I was like, Oh, no. That's just me.
Starting point is 01:23:17 That's just me trying my best. Just, hey, hey, I love, well, then let's get you in season two. Truly. Come on. Guys, come on. Give me jobs, please. I think you'd like it, though. It's fun.
Starting point is 01:23:30 I don't want to set the world on fire. It's so good. Walton Goggins is so good in it. Dude, I heard he kills it. Because he plays one of the, what are they called the ghouls? Yeah. Nice. All right, I'll have to check it out.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Go, pal. Merge Company sounds like a dynasty character. Dynasty. Wait, Dynasty. Do I know Dynasty? The soap opera? Oh, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:56 I don't know. I have to check that. I mean, probably. Yeah. That's me being uncultured. Armada comes back. Would you rather see an NBA gambling movie or a Louvre Heist movie and which one should be directed by Scorsese and which one by Sautenburg?
Starting point is 01:24:11 Hmm. Well, now I want that NBA gambling movie. I kind of want both. If I had to pick between the two, I'm going the NBA gambling movie over the Louvre Heist movie, just because the Louvre Heist movie just sounds like Ocean's 14, which I'm not, I'm not anti that. But like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:31 Like, I feel like the fact that the Ocean's plans seem to come a little bit better together than like this Louv Heist. And it was just like, they just for some reason don't have cameras in this section of the Lou for 75% was just kind of nuts. So I don't know. That would be a gambling movie for me and definitely have Scorsese do that. I feel like that is right up his departed Goodfellas Alley, all that kind of stuff. Go pal.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Christian says, I know my brain flashes to George Thorogood, one bourbon, one scotch, one beer. I know everybody funny. Now you funny too. I don't know that reference. George Thurban, no. Is that the person who did bad to the bone? Am I so wrong about that? Chattel let me know.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Chattel definitely let us know. We're going to get embarrassed out of here. I love it. I love it. Armada, send the Bar Rescue Guy to organize this WB merger. Okay, that's actually hilarious. That is genuinely hilarious, and I support this a thousand percent. He'd definitely walk in, walking to WB talking about
Starting point is 01:25:35 just completely confused as to what's going. on and you know, I was like, you're telling me that you're not going to have Batman? You're not going to have Batman and your murder. I'm a motherfucker fucking Batman. It's just going to go so well. I would love to have the Bar Rescue guy. That'd be great. Um, Pchew, WB going on sales smells like Mavs trading Luke.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Are you okay? Does that hurt your soul? Always. It always hurts. It always hurt. Like my neck is itchy now. It just. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:26:14 May it just be my cat allergy for like an hour too late. Yoshimitsu comes in and says, all this DC talk, that's the news story. I know. But all I care about is that nightcrawler and gambit kick ass and are interesting in the new MCU. I completely agree. I really hope. I mean, one of the best superhero sequences, in my opinion, was the opening of X2 and seeing night crawler, like, attack the white.
Starting point is 01:26:36 That was so well done. Yeah. So I am hoping we get. get like that in the X-Men 97 sequence where he's like pulling Wolverine through the dementia that was so cool i hope we get some sort of choreography similar to one of those two i think that would be absolutely fantastic can you imagine him teleport like helping teleport gambit to snite people like pop up in the air card pop up down here card pop over here sweep pop over here car like oh that would be so dope that be rad oh man okay keep it put it
Starting point is 01:27:11 pushing. Jim one. If Batman part two, Raven the Boulder to leg too long, the next time we see him on film could be in the MCU. Batman goes in a public domain in 2035. Whoa. So do you know how this works? Are you not able to stop public domain on stuff? Can they not re-up on their copyright or something? I'm not sure how it works. I'm so curious on that because I know that eventually stuff, certain stuff does opened up. And I know that, like, for example, like Mickey Mouse, like the steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse, I believe is open domain, is public domain now. But the rest of it has been the lockdown because they're like, well, this is technically a different iteration of him and stuff like that. So I don't know. Okay. According to Google, you can't once it expires. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Well, do I want to see Batman in the MZ? I feel like I don't. It's one of those things that I always have the knee-jerk reaction of, would it be fun if all my friends played together? But I know ultimately I won't actually like it. Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong. There is something about like Batman fighting Captain America or Spider-Man that is interesting. Yeah. But I'm not.
Starting point is 01:28:25 And we've seen in comics. Right. Exactly. So like a crossover like we've seen in the comics or something would be interesting, but I don't necessarily need to always put my chocolate and my peanut butter. Sometimes I like just having a chocolate chip cookie. And sometimes I like just having like just having like. Like, you know, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I don't necessarily need to always shove all that sugar into one thing and, you know, start up diabetes. Like, that's okay. You know, sometimes I can just chill with one or the other. But, you know, to all that I got to say, as Mr. CJ said, I wish I knew what was going to happen. I really do. Matt, at the movies, I agree that we should have Dick or Jason be Robin. Damien seems too early.
Starting point is 01:29:04 I'm hoping that is the part of the Brave and the Bold story that has changed. I'm right there with you. I honestly am right there with you because this can't be the only Robin movie that we have, like Dick Grayson movie that we have. As much as I love it. Like I need,
Starting point is 01:29:20 Dick is such a phenomenal character and they kind of made him very Adam West whiny Robin. Holy, like, because even in Batman Forever, he's like, holy rocks Batman. It's like there's holes. You see that?
Starting point is 01:29:32 There's holes here. And then what at Batman and Robin, he's just lusting after I view the whole time. There's a soft spot in my heart for those movies, but I would like to see real Nightwing, real Dick Grayson kick ass, you know? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Same boat. Armada, those Reddit stories from Blurts were crazy. Oh, okay. So for those that don't know, Blurts in the hood now, we have a whole segment of Reddit stories. We need to rename it because the only thing I could come up with
Starting point is 01:29:58 is not appropriate for the show as far as what we were naming the Reddit stories. But we read like two per. And they tend to be crazy. I give four options to the audience, and then they vote on them. And the top two, we read them out. And they were pretty wild. One was, this week, it was, one was, am I the asshole for not giving full body massages
Starting point is 01:30:25 to my friend anymore after she soft rejected me? And then the other one was like, am I the asshole for defending myself when I brought my date home like 10 minutes late as an adult and her dad physically attacked me. And I was like, these are pretty crazy. And we read them and people were like, what is going on right now? So they're always fun. If anybody sees any funny ones, let me know because I, I, I, I comb read it for a while looking for good, I don't read them.
Starting point is 01:30:59 I just read the titles. So I can be surprised with everybody. So if you see a good one, I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seattle, K.O. What was your very first CD album purchase? Mine was Bone Thugs in Harmony, Eid, 1999. Although, first cassette tape purchase was Stone Temple Pilots Purple.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Do you remember? Oh, my first CD was probably InSink's debut album. But I know that I had on cassette, because I took them from my mom. I got a bunch of remote tape. But I got Gloria Stefan. on Miami's Sam Machine. And that was something that I played like on repeat all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:40 So the point where now my brother, if like there's going to be a like a weird lull in a conversation, he'll on his phone bring up conga. Because I played it so much. Yeah. What was yours? There are two pseudo answers and one that I consider the real one. So the first two that I remember having are Michael Jackson's bad. And then the back streets back, everybody back treats back like single that had multiple versions
Starting point is 01:32:05 of it plus the music video that you could put in your computer to watch the music video, right? Yeah. But I would say the first album that I actually bought, and I didn't buy it directly, but I commissioned my older sister to do it because, you know, the parental advisory thing was Eminem's the slim, shady LP. And I listened to it once. And I was like, oh, my God, this is so bad. This is so much spring.
Starting point is 01:32:24 And I lied to mom. So I went to my mom and I was like, Mom, I'm so sorry. I bought the CD. It's so bad. You have to take it. When I tell you, Chris, within 24 hours, because I knew she didn't return it, she had just hit it. I destroyed her room.
Starting point is 01:32:35 because I was like, I need it back. And I tore up her closet. I tore up all the drawers looking for this CD. And she's like, what the, did you do? And I was like, I was just looking for my CD. I'm so sorry. She's like, here, here, take your stupid. See, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Destroyed her room, like an asshole. That's great. That's why I always say that that is the first one that I actually acknowledge because of that nonsense. Mick Horn. Hey, y'all, question for Chris. What is the best way for someone to begin a at speak friend studio with no experience of demo, but who truly wants to give voiceover a go? Thank you. Oh, Mike, this is a fantastic question. Thank you so much because now I get to do a sales pitch.
Starting point is 01:33:18 On November 1st, I've taken my intro to VO class, and I've turned it into a four-hour boot camp, and I've made it way cheaper because I want it to be accessible for you guys. It's 99 books. You can sign up online. When you do it online, there's an extra $10 because of credit card fees. or you can email us and we can do a Venmo or Zell payment. But we go through how to audition for animation, commercials, video games, talk about some of the places you can audition, some of the tech. I give you guys a voiceover glossary. There's tons of stuff. I also do one-on-one coaching so I can coach to everybody's personal needs.
Starting point is 01:33:47 And it's a great place to start without a demo because we produce demos. We do all of that. I have a huge sound booth next to me. Actually, can I turn my camera? Is that going to screw everything up? There's my sound booth. I have a whole studio here. It's really amazing.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Thanks. So we've got lots of. ways that we can set you up on your voiceover journey. And I understand being an actor is expensive you guys. Also, if you need free resources on speakfriendstudio.com, we have a list of like, here's a free website you can go to for information. Here's some books we recommend getting. I want you guys, if you're excited about voiceover, to learn about it, and it doesn't have to be with me. I just want you to go pursue it because it is my favorite thing in the entire world. So if you go to our website, again, speakfriendstudio.com, you can also look at that resource
Starting point is 01:34:28 page to just do some things really, really cheap. And in 2026, our plan is also to start doing videos so that you guys have a different way to access things. But the live Zoom classes are how you get like actual instruction, actual direction. Thanks for asking. This is exactly why I want you to have all the good things in life. You both, both from just your positive energy, but the fact that you just want people to share in the thing that you love. That is awesome. Oh, thanks, man.
Starting point is 01:34:55 It's the best. Yeah, absolutely. Mr. Nerd fanatic. Needle drop and Gen V finale was perfect to set the tone for season five of the boys. Starlight now has seven to take on Homeland or Seven. Have a great weekend. Dude,
Starting point is 01:35:12 the GenV finale was great. Have you been watching that show? No, I watched part of season one. I was like, I don't know if this is for me. I need to jump back in. I was a big fan of the show of season one.
Starting point is 01:35:25 And then the way that they ended season two. And I truly believe Hamesh is going to get, a nomination at minimum because he was fantastic. There's a twist where he has a major personality shift, but the personality he put forth for like a majority of the season and then the personality shift at the end, his acting and that was chef's kiss. But no, it's, it is, this does set up the boys to be a explosive ending based off of how GenVe ended.
Starting point is 01:35:58 So absolutely, I'm very much looking forward to the next season of the boys. A baba yaga. To answer your question, other demons demon slayer members weren't supposed to know about Nezaku traveling with the demon is unheard of. Also, they can see the breathing. See the breathing. When was I see the breathing? I'm not sure. Now, that I do know that they're not supposed to know, that they're not supposed to travel with demons. That whole sequence is crazy, especially with their master being like, it's cool. Let it go. And they go, no, I ain't listening to you. I'm, I'm, I'm, I know I said everybody needs to pay attention. I'm not doing that. You're not going to make me do that shit. Like I really, really found it fascinating.
Starting point is 01:36:42 And I'm very curious on how this, because there's only like two or three episodes left in the season after this. So we're really curious how it's going to end and then how we end up into, you know, season two and that first movie and all that kind of stuff. So I'm looking forward to it. But join the ride, man. Thousand percent. The G-man.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Hello, Dynamic Duo. my hope is Apple buys WB. They already run WB shows on Apple TV, and I think Tim Cook would be the least meddling CEO. Yeah, I'm not opposed to it. I think it's just that Apple, whether they really wanted or not, they're kind of enjoying just doing their own thing
Starting point is 01:37:17 at their own pace. Yeah. And just for a little bit of tidbit out there for people that don't know, yes, they do a handful of WB TV shows, but I don't think people understand how like this studio's working a lot of that, because that is more spread than you realize.
Starting point is 01:37:34 So, for example, Abbott Elementary plays on ABC. It's a WB show. That happens all over the place where something is a CBS show, like studio show, or a Disney production or an FX show or whatever, but then airing on a different network. That happens a lot. Let alone think about, say, 911 was originally a Fox show that expired, like they didn't want to renew it, ABC revived it.
Starting point is 01:38:03 American Idol originally started on Fox. ABC bought that, you know what I'm saying? So stuff moves around a lot. So I don't think that that's directly indicative. But I don't know. Apple feels like a more expensive A24 at times where they're doing kind of weirder stuff or a little bit more out there stuff.
Starting point is 01:38:24 I just don't want them to get lost in the sauce of Warner Brothers stuff. I love for them to keep creating what they're creating. personally. Yeah. Did you watch Murder Bot? I did not. It's so weird. That sounds fascinating.
Starting point is 01:38:36 It's so weird and fun. That's also Apple? Yeah. Yeah. That's why when you said 824, I was like, yeah, they have did a lot of just off the beat A24 kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Yeah. I love it. I just need to just open up Apple TV and just pick something at random. Once I finished on it on, I'm just going to pick something random. Nice. The G-Man, NBA scandal is Goodfellas the sequel.
Starting point is 01:38:57 I mean, I haven't seen Goodfellas, but I'm assuming you were correct. I need to watch Goodfellas. That's on the list of things for us to potentially watch me in Christian Post. Nice. Unle Slayer. Vicious Soldier.
Starting point is 01:39:09 High school Rumble anime must watch underrated. All right. Let me write that down. Is that the one? Okay. No. I was thinking of something else. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:39:21 I was like, I've seen that. I haven't. Cool. Beagle Studios. Honestly, I know I'm an ant-sized studio, but I'm a pro-mer. merger for WBD Universal would be cool. Universal because they have Harry Potter in their parks. It's just not enough. I'll be honest with you. I didn't necessarily want Disney to buy Fox. I just wanted the Fox to release the Marvel shit. That's it. I wasn't because like it hasn't been
Starting point is 01:39:51 the word, but like go back and look. It was the same thing. There was a lot of downsizing. There was a lot of stuff kind of chopped up and whatnot. It would have been better for them to remain independent personally. But, you know, it is what it is. Like, again, I respect your opinion on that. I definitely disagree. But I respect your opinion as to why you're feeling that one way or the other. Matter of the movies.
Starting point is 01:40:14 I feel like Salvation's run is the DC version of Infinity War endgame. And a peacemaker ending is Thanos' Avengers ending. Maybe Chapter 1 is actually DC's saga instead of phases. Okay. I actually don't. I don't hate that. You calm me down a little bit because I've been a little angry. Govow.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Winston is Hugh from the first X-Men every time. Oh, oh, like, does it hurt? It doesn't hurt every time. Louve Heist, Thomas Crown 2, directed by McTiernan. Without the kind of sexy finesse. my cat but robin fights his laundry in batman forever that is true he does fight his laundry i forgot about that i completely forgot about that yeah oh man the g man it was holy rusted metal batman yes it was i hate that line especially after three years of batman the animated series
Starting point is 01:41:20 perfection it was holy rustle metal you know full of holes like just so stupid. My cat comes back. 80s cartoons or 90s cartoons? 90s cartoons for me. Yeah, same. I wasn't alive enough of the 80s to really have an opinion on them. And let's make it clear.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Anything like 89, like the season was 89 into 90 counts as a 90s cartoon in my 90s. So like the Ninja Turtles, for example, that's, I want to say started like 808, 89, something like that. So I'm going to go ahead and say that counts for 90s. Hey, Mr. C. Chris, when was the last time you laughed real hard in a movie? I wish I knew.
Starting point is 01:42:00 The naked gun, almost the entire time. I was crying in the theater. Yeah. The new one. The new naked gun. It was so good. That's probably my favorite movie experience of 2025. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Our theater was so fun. Everyone was having such a good time. I loved every minute of watching that movie. I was releasing. Knowing me and how long it takes for me to actually get out video save that I say I'm going to put out, I need to start working on my top of 2025. I'm trying to think my best experience in the theater this year was either sinners, bloodlines, F1, or how to train your dragon, just as far as like the actual going. Because like both what I was enjoying with the movies, but with the people in the theater.
Starting point is 01:42:48 Like I enjoyed naked gun, but I was in there by myself. So I was just like, I was just having fun of the movie. but like theater experience, those had me absolutely beside myself. With everybody going, ooh, ha, ah, like it was. Oh, for sure, sinners. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:06 So what else? What else? Have you guys watched the latest from King of the Hill show of the year for King of the Hill? The new season of King of the Hill was fantastic. I haven't watched it. I need to. Did you watch the original show? Yes.
Starting point is 01:43:19 Dude, it is so, so, so, so, so, so good. So I cannot recommend that enough. And our last one for now, Begill Studios, I see it like this. Let the studios eat each other up. All that does is open up more space for us Indies. That's why I'm pro-merger. Yes and no. I hear what you're saying for sure.
Starting point is 01:43:43 But again, without getting super political, I think one of the things that bothers a lot of folks right now in America is the fact that it feels like there's only two options when it comes to politics. People like the idea of having more ideas being presented and having different ways to to have your voice be spoken to than to have to be in some cookie cutter general, whatever, because when you get too consolidated, it actually becomes much harder for the smaller indies to break out. If the power is divided, it's easier for a young upstart to kind of kick in there. So the more these studios are spread out, the more you have the opportunity to do that, versus if they all kind of turn into one giant conglomerant, they love. things out. Then all of a sudden, the theaters will only play the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the world, does, uh, you know, universe
Starting point is 01:44:35 movies. Those are the only ones that show up in theaters, the rest of them that don't get to go. Um, so, that's where I kind of push back on that theory, but I understand where the logic is. Chris, Chris, I don't know if you have any different take on that at all or anything like that. Yeah. Yeah. No, same kind of situation. I like the idea of creators doing their own thing, but I also want people to have access to all kinds of stories. That's the big thing. It's because, again, if I think about my average movie-going audience, if I think about, I always, again, use my parents,
Starting point is 01:45:05 they aren't going to seek out. Like, I had to explain drop-out TV to them recently. And they were like, that's really interesting. What a cool business model. Oh, my goodness. They're not seeking out these things. And usually it's when I show them some of my screeners or something like that, that they get introduced to do stories for really small distribution films and things.
Starting point is 01:45:23 and I want people to get to see those things. And if it all is just, oh, if you go to this great indie festival, you get to see it. Oh, if you buy this obscure streaming service, you can see it. That's what I don't want. I want people to have access to your art. Yeah, exactly. So that's just where my mind is at on that again. I don't hate the premise of what you're presenting.
Starting point is 01:45:43 I just don't think that that's quite how that works, just from experience and looking at history and stuff like that. The G-Man comes back in, Chris. George Thorogood did both Bad to the Bone and One Bourbon. Oh, one bourbon is his other song. Okay. Well, not his other song. I'm sure he has to. He did two songs.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Good job. I'm glad I got that right, though. I really just pulled that one right out of the butt. I'm really sure. I'm still impressed. That's more, that's more than me. Alex, starting late, but Superwoman and my back girl will forever be a classic for me. That Chris and Winston combo was just as a.
Starting point is 01:46:23 amazing as Chris and Rob was. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I love being here. The superwoman to my bad girl. Hell yeah. All day, all day, or day. Beavis and Butthead, do America would be a great react. Oh, that is a great movie.
Starting point is 01:46:43 I have not seen that. I do, I do love that movie. Oh, wow. Okay, great. We have a little bit of time. As I mentioned, I have a heart out, but they said they're pushing to 1115, so that's good. The only thing that's annoying is I asked, is there anything you would like me to do for this? And it was radio silence until they said right now, oh, yeah, the same sides.
Starting point is 01:47:09 I would have been working on it jack hole. No. Okay. That's all good. Go pal says, I didn't even watch the show. Which show? Sorry. Oh, leave us a butt head.
Starting point is 01:47:20 I didn't either. Oh, I love that show. That show was hilarious. It was so ridiculous. But you needed the music videos. We don't really, they're, they're scaling back on music videos, apparently, with MTV not doing them as well. Like, they still happen. But I've noticed that before sometimes we get somewhere between like two to four music videos per an album, it's maybe like one for one single and that's about it, you know.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Yoshimitsu. We got to see Sisu 2 in a stuffy. C. What is S-I-S-U-2? And a stuffy pretentious small-town film festival last week, watching that audience, watched that movie, was almost as fun as the film. I don't know what that is. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:48:01 C-S-S-U-2. Road to Revenge. Okay, I don't know what that is. I have no idea what that is. Interesting. I guess maybe it's a Finnish action movie. Oh, okay. Good.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Love it. Go, pal. but some lines have stuck nearly 30 years later. Oh, about Beavis and Butthead to America. Okay. Yeah, I need to rewatch it. I haven't seen it a long time, but that movie was hilarious. It really, really was.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Harves K. Either of you watch the Chainsaw Man anime, the movie for the second season opens this weekend, recommended. I do watch Chainsaw Man. So it picks up to start off season two similar to what Demons later. Okay, well, then I'll go see it because I've watched the show. So I at least know that, but I didn't understand that. I was worried that it was going to be.
Starting point is 01:48:48 I miss something. But if that's the case, then I will find time this weekend to go see it. Because Chainsaw Man is fantastic. All right. Well, we got close-ish, 46. Not bad. Not bad at all, Miss Chris.
Starting point is 01:49:04 Yeah. You know, again, we'll say for now in case something happens before we get out of here. But Chris, go ahead and plug your stuff one more time. Man, what's going on with you? Go on over to two filthy casuals on YouTube, on Spotify, on Apple, wherever you get your podcast. go check out our Batman the animated series episode.
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Starting point is 01:50:32 We got a few more to came in, Chris, really quick before we get out of here. The G man, Chris, you were a Texan. You knew George by osmosis. Oh, probably. Mike Katz has favorite 90s cartoon other than TMNT. Hey, Arnold, for me. Hmm. There was a lot of good ones.
Starting point is 01:50:52 I loved the Sonic show going up. What else? Both Sonic shows. They were both very good. Rocker's Modern Life. Great one. Dexter's Lab. Powerpuff Girls.
Starting point is 01:51:06 Samurai Jack was kind of the 2000s technically. I think that was like 2001 or 2002. Batman, the Animated Series. There's a lot. Gargoyles. You know, I never got into gargoyles. I had, I had it a little bit, Darkwing Duck. Not Darkwing Duck.
Starting point is 01:51:23 I got him up here somewhere. Nice. Tiny Tune Adventures, Animaniacs. Oh, yeah. Animaniacs is great. You about to say Sailor Moon. Sailor Moon. Yeah, that's a good one.
Starting point is 01:51:32 A lot of good stuff. Yoshimitsu. Sisu equals finished John Wick plus and glorious bastards. Damn. Okay. That's savage. Oh, that's fun. Luke came in with a good one, Pokemon.
Starting point is 01:51:43 That was also another good one. Of course, yeah. Absolutely. And then George is from Delaware, I think. Oh, well, so is my dad. So maybe that's how I knew. Osmosis. There we go.
Starting point is 01:51:58 Someone told me somewhere in my lineage. I wish I knew. And you know this, man. And finally, Michael D. Aguilar with more support. Thank you so much. It looks like we're ending at 52. So thank you so much, y'all. I got to get to this callback.
Starting point is 01:52:15 So I'm going to get out of here. but we love you. Thank you. If you haven't already subscribe to the channel, make sure you do that. We're making that push to a quarter of a meal
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