The Kristian Harloff Show - What is going on with Star Wars? More big names say no. Andor Eps 1-3 SPOILER discussion.

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

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And a copy of the PowerDrain Limited Warrant. Comanche is a registered trademark of Cummins, Inc. Graham and Hemmy are registered trademarks of FCAUS LLC. This Starfighter movie, they announced it at Star Wars Celebration, and it's confirmed. Sean Levy doing the movie with Ryan Gosling, and Ryan Gosling's confirmed, but apparently everybody's saying, no, thank you. Why are so many actors passing on this movie? There's a new report that a few more actors that were offered roles in this movie said,

nah, we don't want to be part of Star Wars. Thanks. Why does that keep happening? we'll discuss that speaking of star wars we're going to get into a full on spoiler discussion of the first three episodes of andor if you haven't seen it i would uh recommend when we get to that part you get the hell out of here until you watch it uh and we'll also talk about they address there a particular scene that happens and i think it's episode it's either two or three and um there's a very controversial scene that tony gilroy was asked about and

dressed and one of the actors that was in the scene also discusses about it. I've seen people saying, this sudden along in Star Wars, we'll discuss. And from my tone, we'll see if you think that I agree or disagree. There's other things, man.

There's some Mission Impossible news. There's a few other stories, I think that are pretty great. So we're going to discuss that and more on the show today with myself, Steph, and the prodigal son Mark. Mark Riley returns. I'm kidding. He's not here, but it's the first name that came to mind.

Mike Kalinowski returns. And we'll see. He's jumping on the bandwagon again, but it might work because I've got to catch Roxy today. We'll see if they can do it. So it's a Christian Arloff show Thursday. Here we go. Howdy, everybody. Howdy, howdy.

Welcome back to the show. I'm excited that you're here. I'm excited that we're all here discussing and talking and that and more. And on the show today, it is the regular crew. And I'll tell you, it's perfect when we're talking Star Wars stuff because this was sith council at one point but now it's just going to be a star wars discussion step subrah hello step how are you star wars is back that's really i think so for this episode with this show at least um and i believe even this grouchy bastard i think agrees well hey when my good friends call me different

names how can i start the day in a good mood i agree i'll be mark i'll be mark riley today numnuts you might as well well you got pretty good hair too so but he's he's got the best hair no one beats his hair that's like i mean kate yeah what i'll be i'll be i'll be Kate. Maybe Kate. Oh, I miss Kate. Yeah. I know, me too.

I haven't seen her in forever. I miss her. I know. I know. Well, you guys are battling against Roxy. Roxy and Roca tried to beat Roxy. But Roca did Monday, did pretty well. Roxy hit 82 on Tuesday's show.

So I have your numbers. I think you guys can do it. You're already at four, which is pretty damn good before the show even started. So good stuff. We'll see. We'll see if Mike can do it again. Was it Steph last week by herself? I mean, I thought Roak and I were going to take it.

Oh, it was Winston. Winston and Coy, they had them won in months. They finally won again. I thought Roque and I had a, we had a great show, man, Rook and I. It was good. I know him. I was happy that you guys did the show. I appreciate you guys doing the show.

And now we have another show that we're going to be doing here today. But, Mike, did you see what happened with, that, did you see that Steph met Thanos? What? I will. Thanks. We'll get their money. You should have gone for the mistake. Just use the woman.

And then you say, oh, and then, how did that just happen? how did that just happen? Am I going crazy? There you go. Phanos snapped away, Steph. I never saw the end game cut. That is incredible.

That just happened to the other. Would you fall out of your chair? No, she had internet like you last week. It just cut you off completely. I don't know what's been going on. Yeah. I was in the middle of talking to her.

And she just like, She just like just appeared. She blipped. I don't even know if I. Yeah. She was gone. Anyway, we got a lot to discuss, guys, because there's, um, there's tons of news, tons of stuff.

And I think the first thing we should actually go into here, um, is this Starfighter story, right? Because we'll get into Andrew. We're going to have a pretty long conversation about it. But let's, let's start with this. Multiple actors are turning down Star Wars Starfighter. That's new report. As part of Star Wars celebration in Japan last week. The wrapping came off Deadpool and Wolverine director Sean Levy's mysterious Star Wars movie.

Title, Star Wars Starfighter, Ryan Gosling, is set to star in the project, which will be a standalone movie set after the events of the Rise of Skywalker and is targeting a May 2027 theatrical release. Now, a new report from Daniel R.P.K via comic book movie has gone into some of the casting process that's been taking place so far. And from the sounds of it, the film is having a little difficulty landing people. The report claims that Jesse Plemons, Jody Comer, and Mikey Madison were all approached for villain roles but passed. Sarah Snook was offered the role of a mother in past, while Greta Lee was considered for a canteen owner, but she also declined. It also says the film's premiere involves a 15-year-old boy on a mission with his uncle, who's paid Blake Gosling, as they are pursued by a duo of villains. One is male, one is female.

The movie is said to have a significantly smaller budget than previous Disney Star Wars films. Levi and Jonathan Tromper are writing and will produce alongside Lucas, films, Kathleen Kennedy. Let's start with this. I like the idea of all two things. One, you know, if you watch this show and you hear me talking about it, you know that I like the fact that they said this is a smaller budget. I love that. Test the director, test the writers, test the actors and make them use the budget wisely. Make them use the location.

Don't overspend. Don't do like when you talk about it, Mike, all the time, why they overspend here on craft services and sending people out and extravagant hotel rooms and shit like that. Make it as much of a shoe string budget if you can, obviously, for a big budget movie. And make it work. Make it pop. The story stuff alone, what do you think about the idea of a smaller story here where, you know, an uncle and his nephew are on the run and are being pursued by two villains.

You'll probably learn the backstory of them, but fairly small story in the Star Wars world. What do you think about that? Yeah, I think instantly what comes to mind is Logan, and I feel like there's something similar there in that small story following two people, but it leads to a greater adventure. I think that's good for Star Wars. It doesn't have to always be the end of the galaxy. And I think this pair would be a good pair to execute that.

So I like the smaller scale story. Mike, what do you think of this story of it is indeed the, The plot. The plot. It sounds fun. Like, you know, I mean,

I get shades of, I know they're completely different, but shades of rogue squadron where it's, you know, stuff at Starfighter. That seems like maybe some, there were some ideas. I know they're vastly different kind of concepts.

One's kind of a group of fighters. The other is, seems like a guy on his own. But what I'm interested, which kind of gets me, like when Gosling was first attached, I'm kind of like, I'm totally.

Perfect. There he goes. We're waiting for it. He's torn and he's and he's, and he's pensacized. He's not only torn. Oh my gosh. Look, him,

that's the longest one ever. Thanos was going to snap his ass out of the way too. That is amazing. Like an asshole in his face. Look like an asshole. It's like a bottle. Asshole face. What happened?

Nothing. You look good. What's up? Where did you lose me at? I don't know what happened. Where did I lose you at? A long time ago, buddy. Long time ago.

Just, I don't know what. This is what happened. I'll show you. Oh, Gossling. Gossling, I was torn. That's what happened to you. So go ahead. Start from there. Start for, wait, Mike, start for the beginning. And when you get to the end, stop. What's that from, Steph? Well, listen, Wonderland. Nice.

What? That's my girl. Go ahead. My God. Anyway, as I was saying, I digress. I'm torn, like, as I really like Brian Gosley, but he just seems like he doesn't want to be an actor. Every time he's in interviews, and it always seems like,

yeah, this is the job that life takes for me. So here I am. But, like, I loved Fall Guy. It was probably one of my favorite movies last year, and it was because of him. And he's, so he's got that kind of swagger about him that would be a real cool, like, kind of cowboy in space starfighter.

So that's got me excited. But we'll see. I don't know, man. I don't know. I like the idea. My, Mike, I couldn't agree less with you. What? What do you mean?

Ryan Gosling doesn't seem like he wants to be an actor. I feel like he's the best at press ever. I feel like he's the worst at it. He just sits there and he looks like you're bothering him when you want to talk to him. Really? You'll have to send me the interviews you're looking. Yes. I don't know, like he just kind of like.

He looks like a really fun, normal dude who's trying to. who's trying not to be too into they got thrust into being a movie star he's like I just I don't want this I just can I show up and say the lines and do the thing and have fun on set I don't want to talk Oh, you're a fan of his work

I do like he's always good He's never not good Yeah he is Yeah I I kind of Okay here's a Oh go ahead Have the blast Tom Cruise I would love to sit there

And talk movies with Ryan Gosseling I don't know if I'd want to be stuck in a room alone Just talking to him Oh Wait that is so crazy I don't know. Cruz alone in a room would be a little bit. I'd be weary.

Oh, no. He would be, he would be leading into me talking about, like, wanting to know, wow, that man, nah. Okay.

Well, we're going to get, anyway. Anyway, so the story itself, we're all, we're all on board with the potential. If it,

if it pans out, right? Now, the story itself, this article, I should say, the report, um,

is the more, I don't know of troubling, is the right word. But it's the more like, okay, where are we at? And the same thing, we talked about this last week stuff when we talked about Mikey Madison passing. And we said there'd be a lot of different reasons why Mikey Madison was passing, right? One of them is that, okay, look, she doesn't, she wants to do a few more smaller things before she moves on to some big stuff. And right now she doesn't want to, she doesn't want to do it. It's a supporting role. She'd rather be looking more so in the lead roles right now. So no, thank you. Or there was the side of, look,

Star Wars is not what Star Wars was 10 years ago. Star Wars is not that brand or like everybody just wants to hop on board. They haven't really had big properties in a while. They haven't had a movie since 2019. And then there's also the fact that it's like, because they're in the spot that they're in right now, you want to play for a team that once was good and the fans are still wanting them to be good. And they're so like, like, let's go, let's go, let's go.

And if you're on another, if you're in another game that the team loses, even though you're a high-priced talent and you do a good, job they're still booing the shit out of you so do you want to be part of that you're like i don't know i don't know i don't i'm i don't think i want to um and there's also things that it just doesn't have the the respect that it had uh years ago and you look at it's interesting because it's not names like mikey madison right now is hot because of the oscar and all that jesse plemmas is a fantastic actor fantastic in no world to jesse blemins be passing on star wars right you're like okay you'd be you'd be you'd be If this is 2015 for Force Awakens, there's no world he passes on that.

He's taking that villain role immediately. And I don't think that Jesse Plamins is the type of person. Maybe I'm wrong. That gives you shit what the fans think at all. I don't think that's the reason why he passes. I think he just doesn't want to be in Star Wars. I think he goes, I'm all right. So, but the flip side of that is, and Mike, let's start with you,

see your thoughts on this whole thing, The flip side is that Star Wars doesn't necessarily need anybody else because they got Gosselin. He's a star. He's a big star. He's and Gosselin will have the Star Wars name around him. And they can still get very good actors, maybe not as well known, but they can still get very good actors. But what do you make of all this, Mike, or where we stand with this report? I think, to quote you, something stinks in Denmark or Denver.

It just, if you can't get a top talent. and you made all great reasons of why. But I don't think that there we go, perfect. Go ahead. Go ahead. I don't think they, like you said, they didn't need it. Like, I don't want to get into it too much, but the actor that plays Cyril and Andor, I had no idea who he was.

He's one of the best things in that show. Yes, he is. I'll show up every week to see that guy. And I had no idea who he was. I don't know his credits. So Jesse Plemmons would have been Adominal Gleason, Imperial Officer, being stuffy and, you know, he's like, I don't need this.

I'm done. I don't need to do this. You know, that guy, like Jesse Plummers, anytime that guy shows up, Jungle Book. Look at Jungle Book. He wasn't, he was like that. He's like that, he wasn't Swedish or German. He was like, a submarine captain, he pops up. He's like, hello.

Which Jungle Book was he in? Oh, Jungle Cruise, Jungle Cruise. Cruise. I was like, that's all very different. It's all Disney. But, you know, you make a very, Good point here, Seth. I think that you look at someone like both,

both Dedra and Cyril, right? Both actors that were like, who's that? And you're like, okay, look, we're going to give you an opportunity here to shine. We're going to get good actors to shine. And now you know them from the role. And not that, I mean, Jesse Platt some of these other actors that pass, like even Comer, who is an up and coming star, right? And the woman who passed on like the mother role and everything too,

they're all regrettally. They're all people that you look at and you go, okay, I know the names could have elevated them, but if you get people that no one knows the names and you, you'll find people to do this role for sure, but I think it's just a state of like where we're at with the brand right now, but the same question I had to you last week, step, you hear this report, you hear that these people are passing on Star Wars. What do you think it means? Is it the state of where Star Wars is? Is it a mixture of everything? What's your take when you hear all this? Yeah, I think it can be.

a mixture of everything or maybe just a few things in different per person. Jesse Plymins, when you look at his record of the past few years, they're very serious, more serious roles. And he's a serious actor. And I feel like the villains as of lately, other than, you know, like Palpatine and Darth Vader are, they're not that serious right now in the state of Star Wars. I think that. Right. I know that, but we're not there yet. I'm just saying before when this was happening before Andor season two drop them. You're right. It was. Yeah, they're a little goofier. So maybe he was just like, it's not like anything bad with you guys. I just don't, like that type of role doesn't fulfill me. And he might have seen the script or heard about the character. But yeah, it is interesting because you would think that everyone would jump to just be in Star Wars. But for whatever reason, the mixture. of the fan base, the timing, and the content. It's just not doing it. It's a great point that you make, though, about, you know,

you see the stuff that has come before it and maybe none of them have watched and or, and haven't seen, it just aired, right? So they passed on it last week, unless they saw episodes of it. And those people are not, Gilroy and all those people are not the ones doing this movie. Sean Levy, you look at it was less, oh, he just did Deadpool Wolverine. So it was going to be some comedy, like you said, going to play into like the goofiness of it and very well might not like i would show them like we're going to go with the kind of tone that like real steel had which shone levy did which i love it's

my favorite shon levy movie is is well i got to look at the rest of the movies to say before i say that but love real steel um and i hope that's the kind of tone that we get with this movie and yeah you could look at and you could say that because it's one of the things and we can discuss it with and or in just a little bit but the villains have been goofy for the most part and even and they, they bobbled Kylo Ren by the end. He wasn't necessarily goofy, but they bobbled him and Mike and I were talking about it forever. We'll watch.

He's going to be a good guy soon. Redemption arc. The villains in Andor are devastated. They are, it's the first time I've felt fear with the empire in a very long time. Like that's, you're watching Nazi Germany is what you're

watching in Andor. That's what you're watching. And it is terrifying. And it makes me go, oh, that's how they conquered the galaxy. When you look at Donald Gleason, who I love as an actor, and you watch what they, the way they portrayed those types of villains in, you're like, how the hell did these idiots take over in the first place? Tomlinson, gee, that moved his character. I love him as an actor, but that was a dopey character.

Didn't even know at the end. Like, uh, make him a mole. Why? Because he hates Kylo Ren. You're like, what are you talking about? So, but anyway, I think Steph's point, Mike, is valid where you look at it. If you're an actor, you're going, yeah, I just don't know if I want to be in that world right now. You get the luxury of reaching a certain status in your career that you don't need it, you know?

Starrows comes to knocking on my door and I'm like, I don't care. What do you need me to play, you know, a job of the huts, you know, illegitimate son? I'm in, stick me in a costume for 24 hours of latex. Sure, I'm there. Yeah, absolutely. Pay me whatever I need. I got to fix my internet. All right, so we got to do, so like jumping into, I think the next story, which will stay with Star Wars because, well, I guess let me, let me start here and ask the audience before we move on anything else to, make sure that you are checking out

our Clips channel, Krishna-R-Luff Clips, subscribe to it right now if you haven't done it, because we'll put this segment up there, a lot of different segments that we talk about throughout the show. And if you miss the live show, you can go back and you can watch it there in segments. So I want to get your opinion on this. I want to get your thoughts. What say you guys, do you think, what's the reason that these people are passing? Is it a mixture of they don't want to deal with the, with the fan base?

They don't want to be part of Star Wars anymore. It doesn't have that kind of magic anymore. And do you think Star Wars will have a problem casting? Because that's a list of four names. There are a lot of actors out there. So put your thoughts. Let's hear what you think. Okay.

The next story that we're really going to dive into, this is more of a thing for everybody out there that if you have not seen the first three episodes of Andor season two, then I'm going to tell you to get the hell out of here because we are going to do a big on spoiler, to be honest with you, spoiler discussion like we always do. with the with the and or series we've done it with Star Wars before in the past with acolyte and other things but we're going to discuss it this is and or season two and I'm pretty pumped to discuss it with you guys step I want to start with you what were your thoughts on the first three episodes you loved season one does it continue on for you oh yeah I'm so so obsessed and happy it's back I was so excited because I for some reason my head I thought it was dropping Wednesday 6 p.m. But then I got the notification and just getting that notification then it says three episode drop. I was oh my gosh.

I instantly hit the season one recap just to refresh. And then I we just dove right in and didn't stop. And it was so they just did such a great job from the first opening scene of setting it up. And the action scenes are shot incredibly. It really feels like you're there. The tension is so real. The characters have gotten better. And this episode three is just, like, actually brought tears to my eyes.

It was so insane. So, Mike, you know, we had discussed when the show was announced that they were dropping three episodes, three episodes, three episodes, three episodes, and then three episodes. We were like, oh, okay, we knew that they had done. the three episode arcs last or the first season but after watching i mean so i am not going to spoil anything past episode three obviously i've seen the whole seen all 12 i've seen the whole see yeah so i can tell you that it makes so much sense as far as why they're releasing it all in one day because what step just said you release the first two and then you're like well how does this wrap up right and then once it wraps up the next jump is a year later um because now as we get into the spoilers when

You start with Cassian, and he's on, you see right away, we jump her right back into him on his mission. He jumps and he gets the tie fighter. He steals the tie fighter. He crashes on Yavin. And when he's there, it was his story, actually in the first two episodes. I liked the least. I hated the idiots that he ran into on that. I'm so glad you said that.

I hate him. They're hard. So let me say this. So everyone, a lot of our friends in our circle, they saw all 12. and our rightful saying, you know, greatest Star Wars ever, greatest Star Wars television. And about halfway through episode one and a half,

or episode two, but halfway, so these three episodes about halfway through, I was kind of like, am I not seeing what everyone else is seeing? Yeah. And I was like, wait a minute,

those people must have seen all 12. And there's a very good reason they drop three at a time because if I would have just got one or two, I would have been kind of like, because those idiots on that planet, are the worst. I didn't understand,

first of what's going on? Like, are they just fighting? And now they separated? What did we? A Lord of the flies going on here? It felt like, remember in Obi-1? Remember in Obi-1?

When he, when he, or not Obi-Wan, Mandalorian, when he gets to that village and those idiot villagers that he's running around with the world. I'm like, oh, we're doing this again? Yeah, I was just kind of like, wait. So, but then after three, I was like, okay, all right, we're back on track to the Andor that used to be. Like, it never stops from there on, Mike.

It never stops. Yeah. So, and I had to, I thought for, I didn't go online. I was like, wait, I was like, oh, no, wait, everyone's, there's a lot of people it's all 12. That's the people that are saying it's the best Star Wars. Because you look at this. But what a smart decision to do these three at once.

That's what I mean. Holy crap. Yeah, because by the time you get to the third episode and you completed the third episode, those people, those idiots are so far gone in your memory. You don't even talking about them anymore. They're gone. Like it's not the point. Okay, so you watch the recap step.

I didn't watch recap. At the end of season one, because I remember we talked about this, was Dejra and Cyril together or not? They were? Yeah. But I remember they were flirting. He was flirting and I was like, oh, they're going to bang. They like held hands.

They like held hands or they, it actually didn't show that in my recap, but I remember and everyone being like, because we joked about shipping them. We're like, there's some horny tension going on here. This is a little crazy. And then by the end, you kind of saw because she had that near death experience, that will, that will get you going. So I think that was the solidifying moment. And then so they picked up.

Because I was like, we recall that one. I love it. I love it. And she writes for her man. She does. I was going to ask. So like if I'm going to ask you guys because what I want to make sure because I've seen these, I went through one day where I think I watched like episodes six through 12 or something like where it was. So I'm if I want to make sure that I the stuff with his mother that happened in this first. Right. Okay. She drug. Yeah, my favorite character. Oh, she's the best. She does me great. She does me create. But I think and love her. Yeah, Mike. I think you love him. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with her.

Alcohol, where's Harlow? She's like, she's like, if you bring up Harlow again, I've got his record, you don't want to talk about him. Like, that scene between Jedra and her was incredible. So, but this is what I love at the show. Poor Cyril's fucking ass up on the bed. Yeah, he did. Dead. But this is what I love about the show. Like, we have, we got 45 to 55 minute episodes. You're allowing us to, A, not only just marinate with the characters, you're marinating with the damn empire right and it's what the books some of those books did so well when they did the empire you're allowing us to go oh i don't agree with their philosophies i don't like their jobs but i understand them as people i know what they're going through as people i know what her aspirations

are trying to be like the best i know that he's a mama's boy who just does who can't get past here but he loves her and all these different things you you're you're giving us character i saw the stupid thing again This doesn't feel like Star Wars. What the fuck are you talking about it? Right. The whole time I was thinking this feels so like Star Wars and then more of what I've wanted in some of the missing pieces of how we've talked about how sometimes the politics and the original weren't that good. But the way that they. Yes.

The way that was so genius is that every of our main like six characters in the different sections of the galaxy that we visit them. in the first three episodes, they established exactly what it feels like when a fascist regime is slowly taking over. And depending where you are is your level of comfort, even though you're still dealing with your individual life things, no matter where, like, what the status is. And then the slow creeping of how it's like everyone's comfort

is going to kind of come to an end soon. And the fact that you have Krennick out there in that whole thing, because that whole storyline of them, what they're trying to do with the building out and the start of the Death Star, right? Like everything that they're doing and putting Deirdre in there and all that, I'm telling you,

like this is why I said, like now when people, when I see people in the comments and they go, this is boring, I can't tell it. I just write back, Pew Pew is all I write back. Because you're,

that's what you want to see. You brought a good point. You got a good point, I want to ask you guys about this. Because I remember, we were all on a board. for season one. It wasn't the show we thought it would be.

It was, you know, Harlow, you thought it was, I remember, you were like, completely in love with it because of, so season one. Building up to Andor, you were like, I don't know if this is going to me for me. Oh, I didn't, I know. That was my least anticipated thing. It's my favorite for it, but it's least. So do you guys remember the feeling after Andrew, and in the time since then where a lot of, I don't say diehard Star Wars fans, they weren't into it.

And it was just like, and. people because people's the net keep me like yeah because a lot of people were upset that it didn't have lightsabers it didn't have the force and i remember there wasn't this big ground swell of love for the show and when people talk about it they don't talk about acolyte or or soka and i just like i'm telling you by timing it like even the people i see people in the comments i'm saying it's all change around now everyone's like this is by time they get to the end i see people in the comment though george lucas would be a shady blandar it's like no he wouldn't because this is actual good storytelling um but nonetheless what happens happens and by the way he's a fan of Andor he's a massive fan of Andor but either way, when you get to the end of it If you don't think of 12 the whole thing if you don't think it's Star Wars You don't know Star Wars you just don't if you don't if I can see like for the first three episodes of you're watching and you're going I don't know Because of like you look at the relationship between the mother and those things and the build up and all that and that there's a lot of talking to I said it in my reaction I said America I go I can already hear people going this is boring all they're doing is Yes, it's called fucking buildup.

Here's the thing. Here's the thing. The scene with Cyril, his mom, and, and Deidre, that's the same type of scene we got in the original trilogy of Luke and his two, and aunt and uncle sitting around. I was like, I don't want to be here. It's another season. That's the entire thing that that scene is.

It's setting up the characters. Don't tell me it's fucking Star Wars. And there's so, and so, and someone, well, someone said this, there's lack of alien race. Aliens are everywhere in this season. They're everywhere. They're everywhere. Because I noticed it in the first season, too.

I see what you're saying. In the first season, I saw, I saw the note just now. Someone said, there's hardly any alien races in there. Everywhere in season two, because I noticed it. I think he got the note and took it. Yeah, but also, I mean, okay, let's talk about this. You know, Star Wars is always kind of monitoring, you know, mirroring modern day and whatnot. But Chandrailla, where they are the rich people, it would be, hey, we're all going to look alike here.

These are our safe people. We're all rich. This is we're all going to look at 100%. In the comics, and the comics, And a lot of books, there was a, there was a whole thing that, that Palpatine wanted to get rid a lot of the aliens. Yeah. But, but either way, what they're also doing now is that you have, you have the buildup and the stuff

going on with Mon. Now, the dancing stuff, did that happen in this? In episode three. Oh, I did. She is, her world is falling apart. Yeah. And she's out there. That's her last night.

That's her last two raw. That's it. She was like pushing, she was pushing. I don't know if it was cut differently or anything too, but like I understood that scene 100% someone's like you don't get to go trying to push her she's trying to push her her life you know out and realizing that what's her face

is going to die and I'm like no no no I totally understand that I love that scene. Yeah, I loved it. They don't they don't spell it out for you. It's you have to like we're killing this name Ty or Tyrol or how they realize like oh this guy's, he's loose lips and ships. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they're like, he's done. And you know, They sent them off in that car and the ship at the end. Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. Which was such a good way of tying in, um, Sinta back in. So Sinta, that's what I want to ask you. Yeah.

Yeah. She was blonde and now she's the redhead, right? That is that, sent her. Oh, no. Sinta is the, is the brown hair girl who's the driver. Yeah, the driver. She, okay. So then the blonde in season one is now the redhead in season two.

Yes. Yes. When did they, did she meet up with Mon at the end of one? I don't know how he, left her. Was it the end of all? Yeah, their cousins.

You meet them. Yeah, you realize that they're cousins and, but they're both kind of fighting the cause in different ways. Yeah. Yeah. So like all of that and the fact that you're just someone like, Luthan is just next.

Luton is, he is the, he is the whole reason. He is the whole reason that this whole thing exists. He's that, he is literally, he is the George Lucas of the rebellion. When he,

when that one person, they're kind of sitting up the party and someone mentioned something about like trade routes, somebody's like, oh, tell me more. just kind of gasping in there. But you know, and he had to look on his face as an actor that look he gave.

Oh, man. That's so good. She spoke volumes. Do you know who I really, really love this season a lot? And she's got more to do. Again, I'm not going to spoil anything. I'm just going to tell you who really, to me, is one of the standouts in the show this year. Bix.

Well, we'll talk about Bix in a second. Bix, for sure. But she was a big moment last year. Clea. Yeah. Luthan's assistant. Okay, yeah, yeah. She is phenomenal.

And she is so great. Go ahead, son. No, yeah, she is really great. I want more to do with her because she knows more than basically anyone because he's, she's the number two to him, which like you said, he's the architect of the entire thing. So she has a lot of information.

It'll be cool to see if her character grows, because right now we've only gotten little bits and pieces of her. This season, you guys know how much I love season one. I love season one. Season two makes season one look like Boba Effect. Just overall. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

Now, I don't spoil anything for me. We're not getting a season three, right? No. Okay, so this is this. This isn't a spoiler. It literally, because I've been saying this, Tony Goodroy said, It leads into Rogue One. Yeah.

Rogue one is the series finale. Okay. That's why they did the three episode arcs and they're basically three movies. Every year. Yeah. Every, so for four movies and it picks up like. Yeah.

Every movie shows like the, it's like within a few days, but up the next year. And also just noticing this, and I'm sure it probably goes to it, how it shows how good. Star Wars is and Kenby when they don't use the volume. I know.

Like location. That party's seen alone. It, and they drew the tracking shot of her walking through the party. And she's like, Mike, Mike, you also give 45 to 50 minute episodes each time.

It gives you time. You don't have to go, well, we only have 25 minutes. What do we do? Throw a monster in there. And then have somebody on a jet pack fly. What do they say? Cut out all the dialogue.

Just have them shoot, shoot, shoot, pew, do we have any lightsabers? Maybe throw one in there. How about really bad dialogue? Get one line of really bad dialogue in there, throw them out. More monsters, more monsters. Where's the volume?

Everybody's using the volume. It's like, that's the same formula as opposed to how refreshing is it to say, oh, they're actually in the woods. They're, oh, wait, they're talking for more, five minutes? Like, looking like I've ever worn to watch. Five minutes? And I'm like, wait, they just talked for five minutes. And I understand everything they're saying and where they're going and,

oh, that build up. And now I know more about that person? Who, who knew? This feels like HBO, Mac show. And speaking of, like, even though he didn't, you know, the goofball kids, they all had personalities in which one. They didn't like them.

They did. Goof balls, they all had, but they all had characters. I was just like, tell you right. Like you knew who was who. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was like they're doing such a good, an effective, masterful job of painting all the

parts of the galaxy of what would happen if an empire was taking over. And so much of it mirrored just what the similar facets of what we're seeing today. And there would be, you know, an idiot crew that didn't know how to govern themselves. I just think we spent too long there. But that was literally my only criticism. The rest I was just kind of in awe of how great the storytelling was, how good it looked, and how every character just got better. Yeah, it got so much better.

And so then you mentioned Bix, right? So this is where the controversy starts. Well, first of all, Bix has just been, she was so good. I love AJ Arjona in general. She really steps up in this episode. It's devastating to see where they are. They're waiting for cast to get back. They're trying to build up.

They're like hiding. And then this is, this is, they reminds me of Braveheart, you know, like the scene in, you know, what I'm talking about,

Mike, like when the Primon knocked the stuff and all that. And then they, hello, Lassie and all that. And they wind up at the end where this guy comes in and he sexually assaults, bicks and tries to,

you know, he tries to have his way with her and she backhands him, which is fantastic, fights her way out and then the other guy comes in. And the thing that I couldn't believe that they said is she literally looks out and she says, he tried to rape. She uses the words.

And I said, wow, I'm surprised that Star Wars, A, went there, B, they got approval to do that, right?

I saw a lot of people going, no, there's no place for it. I'm like, there's no place for it. It would have happened in Boba Fett. There's no place, and from the tone that was set up.

And if the tone was set like this in Boba Fed, there's a place for it. The way that they set this up, they set it up in a way. Like I told you, the empire is so devastating. And I'm so sick of people going, well, we have to stick exactly with the guidelines of what Star Wars has always been. And then the next time they go, we need to change it. Why are we doing the same shit? They're changing stuff up because it fits in to the narrative of how despicable, disgusting. And they are Nazi Germany.

You don't think Nazis did that to people at Europe. European villages all the time? All the time. I don't understand the people saying that this is not fit into Star Wars. Even in the Force Awakens, they rounded villages up and shot them all. Like, he choked kids. He choked his wife. I know.

And I thought, okay, so I heard the discourse. I thought they were going to show some kind of, not the, you know, our rated, but like they were going to show they never, he was never even once, like, no. They did it very tastefully. Like, what's the problem? Mike, you know what it was? It was the fact that they used the word.

If they wouldn't use that word, I don't think you would have seen it. Don't hide from it. It's true. And people do shit like that. 100% agree with you. And that's what the fucking light on it. Adrian and Jonah said as much when they asked her about the scene.

She felt she took that with her when she said it. It felt like she had the power when she said it. When you listen to her words, it was very important to see again what she was, who she is and what she was able to do. and the fight that they're consistently doing against these tyrants. They're tyrants. And you felt it in the first three episodes,

when they're sitting around that table talking with Krenic, you're like, these are despicable people. What was the last time, Steph, you felt the empire was despicable, or the resistance, I mean, or the, what the hell were the first order, any of them? What was the last time? Yeah, I mean, a long time ago where you really feel this is exactly the type of behavior and the entire energy that an evil force would bring to a galaxy. We see it in our own world in many different examples.

And it's no surprise. And I was impressed that they had the scene kind of showing what was happening. And then her saying it, I was like, whoa, crazy. Because I just, YouTube gets you in trouble for saying it. And that's always really bothered me. And this is like the people who complain about First Amendment. then they're the same people who don't realize that you're being hypocritical. We have to talk about it.

This is many people's lives when they're in danger situations, even in just walking around in normal America, this is a danger of women can think about every single moment of their lives when they don't feel fully, fully safe. And so I was really impressed, especially in a wartime like this, where they're fighting for their lives. I think it was the ultimate show of Bix's character in general,

watching all that she's been through, and watching an empire beat down on her mentally, physically, everything. And that's like who is our people fighting back? That's how you get a rebellion. So it was the most effective storytelling. It's a great point where it's like, you know, that if you have a series like Star Wars and a brand like Star Wars, that can bring awareness to this stuff. We know, and it's again, it would feel out of place, if it was in rebels, clearly it would feel out of place.

If it was in a show like skeleton crew. It was in skeleton crew. Yeah. Feels out of place. Out of place. This show has set a tone of what it is. Now, do I think every show should be dark and brooding and have serious issues like this in Star Wars? No, it shouldn't.

You should have different tones throughout it. But it's okay to have adult Star Wars. It's okay. And you expand your brand by doing. so. And clearly, the people who are really investing in this, and if you watch all 12 episodes and you see it, you see what this show is. This is their version of HBO Max. This is the best quality thing they have done. I love Mandalorian season one and two. It pales in comparison to the writing, the direction, the music, everything about this show. It's like when you get it, and especially,

it's the best like prequel thing that they've ever done either too. I know people, what, what? when you see the whole season, come back and then talk about it because you got to see the entire thing. It's a brilliant show. It is absolutely brilliant all the way through. And I hope that they continue to do stuff like this. And I don't think that they will. I'm like, so again, I didn't see it the first night. I kind of waited. And I was like, we'll probably talk about it on the show. I probably should watch it. Because I've been in that way just because of Star Wars of the past few years has made me feel it. Like I'm like, all right. But now just look at the way we're talking, the three of us again. We have been this.

excited to talk about Star Wars in years. Right. So it just, like, the people that are with that, like, I don't get, like, it doesn't make any sense. Like, they didn't show anything. They didn't go graphic with it. Like, and I'll tell you this. You guys, you guys, watch the, do you guys watch the pit? No, here it's great though. Okay, you got to watch it. There's some stuff that happens in there, like with a pregnancy. Like, I didn't need to see that ever again in my life, but it fits the tone of the show. Right. This fits the tone. People have their idea of the Star Wars is. And it's like, did it feel out of place? Let me ask you this. For people who say, well, George Lucas wouldn't like that, I'm not asking if you think felt out of place in your version of

what you think Star Wars is. Do you think from the tone that is set in this show, that it was out of place in this show? Because that's when I think the argument should come into it. It's like, it felt out of place for what was in this show. It completely made sense. And I want to get into the interview that was conducted. And Andrew's creator was asked about the controversial scene. Tony Gilroy. He has scored universal acclaim for subverting expectations as to what a Disney Plus Star Wars show can be, delivering a more serious and mature take on the franchise that foregoes fan service and the more cartoony fantasy adventure aspects of George Lucas's creation in favor of prestige adult political drama. I love that sentence all the way around. It's a show that has

pushed through creative limitations left and right and the fan base loves it for that. But But even by the show standards, one scene in the just-release third episode of the new season is shocked and upset viewers in the episode. Bix is hiding out in a farming settlement while Imperial troops are rounding up undocumented citizens. Over the course of the episode, an Imperial officer's flirtation with Bix becomes incredibly pushy. It culminates in a scene in which he attempts to violently, I guess, as you said, are Bix. In the ensuing struggle, she ultimately gets the upper hand and kills the officer. Bix then makes it clear what happened when she screams. He tried to do it.

So Star Wars is famously a fairly case franchise. There is romance, but nothing in the way of explicitness. And there is sexual servitude, the slave bikini. The first season of Andor was vaguely hinted at sex in the seventh episode with a morning after scene in a dingy motel. This, however, goes far beyond that. And as people asking why it was necessary, speaking with THR, Gilroy says it was required to tell an accurate. tale of revolution and shying away from sexual assault didn't feel truthful. Good on him. I get one shot to tell everything I know or can discover that I've learned about revolution,

about battles with as many incidents and as many colors as I can get in there without having the story tip over. I mean, let's be honest, man, the history of civilization, there's a huge article component of that and it's, there you go, you see the word. All of us who are here, we are all the product of it. I mean, armies, and power throughout history have committed it. So not to touch on it in any way. It was just organic and it felt right. Coming out as a power trip for this guy,

I was really trying to make it a path for Bix that would ultimately lead to clarity, but a difficult path to get to clarity. Gilroy adds that he received no pushback on the scene from the studio. No one ever said anything about it, but I mean we have our limits of what we can do. We're very aware what we can do sexually and violence-wise.

Those limits are made very clear. Fan reaction have been fairly divided over the sequence, Some of honoring its inclusion in the franchise, other saying it reflects the real world and the comments of producing and writing, and excuse me, commends the producing and writing team for not shying away from this topic.

Well, that's clearly in the band that we're in. I understand people going, well, wait a minute, I've never seen anything like this before in my Star Wars before, and I'm not used to it. I understand that. I get it.

But like I said, and like his comments said, this is the world that they're in. Like, you ain't seen as far as this type of stuff yet. they don't they don't keep going with this it was it was said what needed to happen and they did it but this show doesn't slow down as far as you know making you almost want to shy away that's what this that's what this show is um and step what i was going to tell you and you'll get excited by this the first three episodes arc one my least favorite out of all oh my gosh

easily easily that's not building the hype come on man jesus this sucks not you know I'm telling you. I would tell you that the third arc is probably third arc is probably my favorite and four and two are tied. We're getting and I forgot we're getting K2SO, aren't we? Yeah, they say in season two. I love the way that they address this

that this is what they know what this show is. Tony Gilroy knows exactly what he set out to do, which is tell the story of the spark that set off in a rebellion and what an oppressed people will do under the thumb of an empire and bix is the perfect character for that because she's been tortured physically she's been displaced she's been undocumented she is just pushed to her very edge and the only way she either has to just give up and surrender or she becomes she becomes powerful and

becomes more a part of the rebellion which is what i hope that she is now now do you guys remember because we were at celebration three years ago. And were they getting ready to film season two at the time? What is the time frame of when they were filming this? Do you guys remember? Well, no, they had a bunch of different, remember, they had that problem because of the strikes and stuff. They started, remember the strikes?

They started filming around the strikes, and it was right around the strike. Okay. Because it was, yeah, what was the first? First was the writer strike, obviously. And then they were like, oh, we started to shoot. there was that whole thing and they were worried about it so they had to go back and and um and do everything yeah okay uh i'm frozen i got a big point i want to say but damn it well well well i like

but i'm just saying stuff like it builds and it builds and it builds this whole show and how you continue to get more like they they do this and you don't shy away from this because it just felt good to watch a star wars to me that i think treats the audience with respect like it really does Like you're watching it and you're going, oh, they're not like dumbing this down and just making it to where it's like, well, it's not just, it's not. And here's here's the other side. I got you, I got you one back film ainator. This isn't just for kids. It's for everybody.

And you can make it. You can't say it's for Star Wars just for kids because it's not all for kids. It's not. It started maybe as a kid's thing too, but those kids grew up and still loved it. Every damn filmmaker you see starts and goes. those, Star Wars changed my life and made me want to do this. It's not, you should absolutely make content like skeleton crew and other things and rebels. You should make that for kids, for sure.

And everybody can enjoy it. But the point is, you can also make stuff like this that kids shouldn't watch. I think it's because a lot of people have issues where, you know, Star Wars, where it's just for kids, they don't do stuff like Seth, you just said. There's a whole season right now. And that's why I was trying to find the writing when it started because they're field workers and they're coming to see their papers. Like there's nothing more topical than that.

But a lot of people's like, no, this isn't right. Because in my real life, I think that's good. But in my fun Star Wars, I don't want to be one of the bad guys. That's what they see. What they're doing with Daredevil. They went Dear Devil. And they went to a R-rated Deer Devil. And by the way, Cal, I'm giving him a thumbs up.

No one's no one's picking on anybody. So the point is that when you look at Daredevil and you look at rated R what it does, it just doesn't, it's as a guys, well, there's people who are getting brutal in the Netflix series, smashing your head into a car. It just shows you how people are like, well, you know what? In Daredevil, it's okay to see people's heads getting blown up and things like that. But God forbid, there's a sexual son of woman that she fights back and she says the word. No, it's not Star Wars.

It's like, you can have a Star Wars. for mature audiences. It's okay. It's a perfect analogy. The Daredevil, bashing heads in, that's Daredevil. But also, him hooking up a Shehawk over in San Francisco, that's Daredevil too. They're both the same thing in the same world. It just sets the tone. The She-Hulk show is different. So he fit in that world. It's tone. It's all about tone. It's all about Starlin's though. Yes, because. I agree with you guys completely. And both of your points, it's interesting that people are just deciding that it's not for Star Wars and it's not for this show, but it is,

it's so fascinating what all of us do in terms of accepting things or not. Like we've seen Darth Vader choke people out. We've seen that the empire will blow up an entire planet at will. What do you think happens? Like, but it's like, but if we saw the body burning, that's too much, but see that from a far is okay. In episode four, there was literally a skeleton burning. Right. I saw someone say, this is not okay.

They were talking about, you know, anarchy choking kids. And someone literally goes, but did we see it? Did it happen? Did it happen? We didn't see it. I was, we were just like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

But going away from that in general, this show, like, it's, and for people, again, I can see the first three. I really can see, I disagree with it, but I understand where someone can say, Oh, it was a little slow for me. It was a little boring.

Okay, okay, fine. The ending, you can't, you can't, you can't, the ending of that episode is just phenomenal. When they, when, and everything happened, they lose their buddy from the first season, which sucks. Yeah. Oh, yeah, show you how great Andrew is there. They escape to get up to them, but from, I'm telling you, it let move, moves and moves moving forward. No, you talked about, you know, just another thing that's sad, they left Pispot behind. They did live Pispot behind.

This spot that left behind. Yeah. Oh my God. You just wanted Andor to come back. He just wanted his buddy. I know. He left his spot. I know they left piss spot.

Wait, no. You're going to come back and get him. Okay, we'll see. We'll have to see. But nonetheless, Andor is already causing discussion. And I can tell you guys before anything else. This is just, you know, as long as Mike's now working,

this will be the kind of conversation we're going to have every week about and or because I'm telling you, there is going to be an episode that, I'm not telling you when, there's going to be an episode that will be the first water cooler episode, I think, for Andor in general. It's going to be an episode everyone's going,

even the people, even you people out there are going, this is boring. You better keep watching it because I guarantee you're going to come back. I'm sorry, that one was all right. Because it is the best Andor episode ever, ever.

It's the best, it's the best Star Wars episode of TV ever. I'll go that high. It is the best, Star Wars episode in television ever. I'm not telling you when it is, but it's coming. Either way, what do you think? Did you like it? Did you not like it? Why? Have the debate in the comments. Have the debate. The debate? Have the debate in the clips channel. This will be on the clips channel. So put your thoughts in there. Let's get to it. All right. I want to, before we move on,

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So hopefully a lot of those questions will come in. We will get to this topic and then we'll get to the questions. I know there's some other topics that we had, but I think that that last conversation was pretty damn good. So we went a little longer. But check this shit out. Netflix boss, theatrical experience is an outmoded idea, says Ted Sarandos. He says, well, whoa, never mind. He didn't say shit yet.

I haven't got that part. Ted Sarandos has long been a vocal critic of traditional cinema regarding how it relates to his company's business back in April 2023 as the box office. was coming back to life post-pandemic, Sarandos effectively doubled down on Netflix's straight-to-streaming film release strategy, which bypasses theatrical entirely outside of awards, qualifying runs. During a quarterly earnings broadcast at the time,

he said that driving folks to a theater is just not our business. We create the demand, and we collect that demand on our subscription service with our members. Appearing at the Time 100 Summit this week, he describes the streaming giant as a very, consumer-focused company. We deliver the program to you in a way you want to watch it. It's then he got into the theatrical experience and was asked about declining overall box office,

responding to that he says it's just an indicator of what consumers want. What is the consumer trying to tell us that they'd like to watch movies at home? While he personally loves theaters, he says much of the audience has moved on from the theatrical experience, saying, I believe it is an outmoded idea for most people, not for everybody asked if Netflix has destroyed Hollywood he responded no we're saving Hollywood baller comment I'll tell you that this is whether you agree with them or not ball at balls he got some fucking balls that guy all are common um so let's start here I um I it's it's hard for me to say here because I think there's going to be some stuff that I say that people will

agree with and disagree with the same time where I get where he's coming from I understand what he's saying. I don't agree with a lot of the stuff that he's saying, but I get where he's coming from. And I will tell you that people have, a lot of people have moved away from theatrical experience. Do you, are you guys watching the studio? I just started it because I wanted to finish the pit. That first episode, dude, the fact that they're making a Kool-Aid movie and then just two days ago, they announce a Toys R Us movie. I'm like, it's, it's great. And Cranston is, as, was it Robert Evans? Like, Albert Evans. He's so good. Yeah. Dying. But, Steph, are you, are you caught up um i think so do you see the do you see the episode where he he went to the thing with

his doctor girlfriend uh rebecca hall oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so there's that um there's there's there's one line where they're talking about you know because all these doctors are like so how important their lives are and basically he's talking about a diarrhea movie on a on a on a phone call and all this stuff happens. And then he's talking about all these things that he does. And they're like, yeah, we don't got to the movies. We have a really big TV at home and we just stream. And he's like, I hope we can get you back. And that was just so indicative of what's going on right now. It's so true.

There's so many people who do not go to, I can't even tell you. My friend who I used to go to the movies all the time is like, he goes, I took him to to see Deadpool Wolverine with me when I saw the screening. He goes, yes, it's the first time I've been in a movie theater in a year and a half. like people we're we're the people that we're talking to me you everybody here everybody the circle that we hung out with in LA and all that you're never going to hear that but most people a lot of it it's it is it is not the same thing that happens because there's so much shit to watch now I was I was talking about this a little bit online and um you're online now you know what I mean you know

what I mean Twitter and stuff yeah and you to understand it like because we were talking about and it seems like the reaction is great, you know, and they did this kind of fan screening. It was the sales weren't good. I think to a lot of people outside of film Twitter, that's a, eh, I like some of the characters.

I'll wait for Disney Plus. I'll wait for Disney Plus. Like they've, they've trained audiences to wait for their streaming, these big movies, even Netflix, which is making movies for streaming. Disney and they've really trained their own audiences to go,

that's not a must-see. theaters. I'll catch it in a month, two months on this $160 I spend a year on streaming. It's, you know, it's, it is what it is, man. It is. It's and Steph, what do you make of Seranos's comments though? Harsh reality. Maybe it's interesting because they'll have to find a way to level it all out money wise. I guess the thing that the movie theaters have right now most is with the bigger movies they have the exclusivity of the few weeks and I do think it matters for some movies sinners is one of those where people just want to go and so they can talk about it with people and they don't want to be behind talking about it that's hard to draw in that audience but yeah

I think there's some harsh reality that we're already facing with that and there's a lot of movies going straight to streaming that are really great and make it really nice for when you don't want to go to the theater but it is I don't I don't know if they'll be no theaters, maybe less, but I think there will always need to have some. Yes, and it's more so of an experience to where you've got to feel like you're getting bang for your buck, right?

So if you're like, okay, and this is why the Avengers movies and these big budget movies do really well, and there's certain times, like, that's why budgets we were talking about it and why they're so important in general, because like here's a comment, look at this comment. So this comment here, Kenny King says, Netflix is expensive as fuck too, though. However, however, yeah, it's expensive,

but you're getting so much material as opposed to one thing. So if you're spending, let's say, what is it, what is how much is Netflix now? Like 18 bucks a month, 25 bucks a month? What is it? I like the highest tier, yeah. Let's say it's 19 bucks a month, okay?

So 19 bucks a month, if you wanted to, you could watch it every day and watch five movies or four movies a day if you wanted to, a day, if you wanted to. you can do that and you would already, if you spent 18 bucks at the movies, you'd barely get a ticket and you would get, you know, maybe a drink, maybe if you're lucky,

depending on the theater you went to, or even if you have the pass, the AMC pass, whatever it is too, you're still, you're still wanting to spending money on snacks and all that stuff too. So a streaming service in the long run for entertainment size, if you pick the one that you like, You're getting way more and way more in general.

And depending on your system and the kind of screen that you have and everything else too. So it's not expensive as compared to a movie theater. Movie theaters is so expensive. Now it's hard for people to want to go and when they have so many options. I get it. Sure do. What? Now what?

You look good, man. Oh, Jesus Christ. I'm like to go and jump in on. Yeah. You're just sitting there waiting for it. You're just waiting. at me. I don't see you. Where are you, big balls? I'm right here, brother. Where?

Right, yeah, look down. Look down. There's eyes. You win. I'll give you one of these, too. Hey, look at, look down, look down. No, down, man. Yeah, there's it. Oh, no. No. Yeah, that's right, Steve. You like that shit? Me too. I'm just kidding. Let's shake hands.

Yeah, shake my hand. Shake my hand. Shake my hand. Oh, there's my balls. There's my balls. like, anyway. Oh, is it perfect? Perfect. You know,

nuts. Well, what's your theater spirit's like? What do you think? Do you think that Sarando's had a point? Put your thoughts in there.

We got us to know. All right. We're going to get to these questions. Time to get to questions. We got things we got to do. And we got a good amount right now. 21.

Ken, Mike, and Steph reteam, do it again, and beat Roxy. We're all going to find out. 82 is what we're working with here. They have 21 at the moment.

at the moment. So put your comments in there, put your thoughts the way it works as you guys put the questions in. We will answer them until either the two hour. Well, we ask, until the last one is there. But if we don't get them all, if we don't get enough, you know, then we just say, hey, we'll see you back here tomorrow. Totally good. All right, let's get into these questions. Lou, let me know if I miss anything. Starting here with Bruce Crawford, I rewatched your Sith Council Star Wars film reviews and and or season one reviews you guys are hilarious together and my favorite people to listen to thank you bruce i still wear my sith council shirt much love and may the force be with you i'm glad man i'm and i'm happy and look this is the reason why when we even said that we weren't going to be necessarily doing star wars um show

every week i still i give credit to roka i don't know roka still does uh his star war show it's like i just it's like what do you talk about um but when you have a show like this it you know like and or it's like okay we'll talk about it all day long and like even one heck that was that we talked about it every week um not so much with steloton crew i said did you go back and watch that mike skeleton crew i haven't watched no no step you like not i liked it yeah everybody that saw it liked it i just apparently but just unfortunately not too many people saw it um you bruce yeah thank you bruce that was awesome j dTR jtr became a lute youtube member i'm glad to hear it because right now yesterday we put the thor non-edited watch along up on membership so you guys got that with both members and

got it and then today Captain America Civil War will go up non-edited on both Patreon and members so Luke's actually going to be sending me a headshot for that soon because he's like well where's the headshot I don't have one so we're going to just fake it

so we'll have to figure out where I can find that shots for that membership one I'll find it soon because we have a really good interview with scheduled with Matt Sarah right after this we're having Gavin O'Connor on. Oh, nice. For the accountant, too.

All right. Chris Konstan, I just watched the first three episodes of Andor season two. I was not prepared for how mature season two is compared to season one. I feel so bad for Big. She's gone through so much. Hell, same with Mon Mothma, too, R.V. Brasso. Yeah, I mean, it is, I'm telling you, like, each, these characters, you go, they all go through shit this season.

They all go through it, and you're with them. And it's like, yeah, it's just, there's, there's one. episodes, it's just written, they're all written really well, but there's one that the writing, it's, this episode should be nominated for an Emmy for the writing. It really, it really should. There's an episode that comes out, not this one, Mike, there's one, there's one that comes out and this one's good too, but there's one that comes on down the line that the writing is so, like, clear of how good it is. You're like, oh, yeah, it's structured in general. It's, it's, it's pretty great. So, you agree? I agree. Like, did you, like, did you?

So I'm trying to think, did Gilroy do write all 12 or is he have? I think he wrote a lot of them. He goes he didn't direct. He's four different directors that directors did all. He didn't direct any, did he? He didn't direct any of them. It's all his writing, though. Okay.

Yeah. All right, Mike choice. Nyamos, what a banger. What's that mean? I think that's the song that they're dancing to. Oh, was it? I think it's like the song. Yeah.

That's tense. My mom is losing her mind too. Oh, oh, okay. Julius Wyatt, not going to lie, the first two and or episodes had me a little nervous. They weren't bad, but I wasn't hooked. That's how I was, Julius. I was like, what is going on here? I was the same.

I was locked in to everyone's storyline except Andors. And I said, that's not great that that's the case. And then when it all kind of ties together and you're like, oh, now that he's off that, now he's off of Yavin and he's back. And he's doing like, I remember when they announced that whole. Because what did we say about season one? It was like the hook, jab, uppercut? Jab, jab, hook, uppercut. Yeah.

And I was just like, man, I'm going to miss that. I like that buildup. But now I was like, oh, I think they saw it. Like, you know, this we got to do three at a time. It's exactly what they did. And it's like it's like you got, it's essentially like you're getting four movies. And so yesterday's movie was, you know, like good start. Okay, middle, fantastic end.

That's the last time you hear okay. on anything. Okay. Yeah. Steph, I cannot wait for you to watch. I'm so excited. I cannot wait.

Aaron, the creative, Star Wars is the Dallas Cowboys of the film industry, so I'm not surprised up and combining talent doesn't want to be a part of it. Yeah,

it's like you've got to get on, it's like one of those, it's very much so like the sports team. You've got to get, you've got to get back on. Once you're back on top, everybody's going to be part of it. You just got to get another movie

that people are going to be excited about. Yeah. It looks very, looking, just looking, oh, damn it. Shut your mouth.

Shut your mouth. Yes, it looks like like you're very pensive looking out into the world. I'm just listening to it to me. I was thinking, like,

hmm. Retro rebels, Christian, who wins in a bar fight? Martin Riggs or John McLean. Ooh, hi, Steph.

Who's your favorite action star, Stallone or Schwarzenegger? Hey, buddy boy, which movie you take it on a road trip? 16 candles are pretty and pink. Well, I'll get the road trip,

16 candles. Never seen pretty in pink. Hey let's say Stallone or Schwarzenegger. That's a hard one for me, but Schwarzenegger. Yeah, I'd probably have to agree with you. I mean, as much as

Come on. Come on. The Rocky is too much personality, do you? I think Stallone for me. I'm not going to argue with that. You can't argue. And this might be controversial.

I think Riggs kills McLean pretty quick. Riggs destroys him. He's a former Delta operator. Like, an angry ranger or. a seal or something. And Angry Riggs takes out McClain pretty easy, I think. He's gonna, Mr. Joshua

the hell out of him. Hey, buddy, you want a shot at the title? I believe I'll take a title shot right on the case. Man, that's finally coming out to 4K, like within the next month or two. I cannot wait to own. One of the best movies ever. Ryan, Andor is a diamond

sitting on top of a dung hill. Oh. That's fair. Well, just for Andor, for Andor to be this good coming off of the dropping the same week of the last of us is really it it to me it's like they just they're both I'm so I don't even know what to say about the last of us right now I'm not ready but I will say I like so happy and or meets the mark oh yes it does hey do you know why

why did they drop all 12 episodes for certain people um I think that they want I I think everybody who got the screeners got all 12. I think people So it was just anyone that got screeners. It actually said when they sent it to you and when there's an embargo on it, but they said when you review it and reaction, we'd like you to review or react to it the whole season of what you thought because it plays like a

big ass movie. The whole thing plays like a big ass movie. That's why. And they probably know they're a smaller audience because like Andor and it's a story before Rogue One that it's probably helpful to start getting word of mouth by the end of the season. Especially because

the other reason is if they released the first three episode reviews, you would have gotten, I think, similar. It starts off a little slower. It's in the middle is okay. The second episode and then it takes off by the third. I'm excited to see where this series goes.

But they released the whole thing and what do you hear? How wonderful and great. They know what they had. They know what they had. They wanted you review it as a full thing because I didn't review any. I was going to, at one point, I was just going to do like a meaty reactions to the first three. I'm like, nah, I'm going to do a whole reaction to the whole season. And I'm glad that I did because I got to a point where I would have stayed here. I just had to get home to my family, but I would have stayed here until four in the morning watching

this shit. I was like so locked in. Go pal that DJ droid is 100% an off duty interrogation droid. Which one? The, oh God almighty this fucking internet. The thing, the floating globe at the party. Oh, right, right, right. It was like the like it looked like a chandelier. Oh, right, right. Like the gift, it was a gift, but it was like, yeah, I, I wanted, that's a good, that's a good call. That thing looked like one of those interrigations. Yeah, it's definitely a narc. Zibi, y'all read Catalyst novel, a lot of echoes in Android.

Yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot of stuff that, that was pretty, remind me of Catalyst. Cattellis is a great novel. It's one of the last novels that I, in the canon stuff that I read, because it was one of the ones that got me bummed, because it's, it's James Lucino, and it's such a great novel. and it gives you a backstory on Erso and Krenick and all this stuff and I was wondering how they were going to play it into the movie because back then

when they were still selling the idea of yeah everything that happens in the comics and everything to it all going to sync up and everybody's on the same page and I was buying into the bullshit back then so like when I went in there I'm like oh okay how's this going to play in and it doesn't really if you know it you know it but it doesn't really tie in at all and it's a shame

okay let's see next one. Thank you, Zeeby. By the way, right now, guys, you guys are at 29. 29 approaching 30. We can see with about 45 minutes left to go, still the Roxy on top, but that could change.

We shall see. Okay, next one. This is from Mark Longcrenick. Seems like such a chill guy. Yeah, I don't know if I'd want to be in a room with that guy. Yeah, he's, I'm so glad to see him. Yeah, right. So glad to see him back.

Like he's doing like a. sculpture modeling. It's like I almost don't want him to fix his internet. I know. Yeah, it's so bad. It was chronic, that's just trying to think. Was he in season one? No. Okay, it was. I didn't think so. Okay.

It was not. Um, handsome ransom, justice for Steph's nails. What happened to your nails? Steph? Thank you. No, that's just an ongoing thing. Oh. Okay. Ongoing thing with my nails from when they do break. It's a long story.

Peter Klin. Thank you. Thank you. Crenic's scene reminding me of HBO movie conspiracy. Also, though the budget per episode was expensive worth every penny. Yes, set design. Yes, locations. Yes. Effects. Yes. Costumes. Yes. 1,000 of 10 of the cats me out. It's, yeah. Absolutely. That's the thing. If you're like, I don't want to shit on the acclade again. Everybody's been doing that already. But where did that $230 million go? Where did that go? Right. A lot of it looked fake as piss. this I don't know how much it costs but every every dollar they're using right so right and or is jacking the imperial ship it looked so cool on the inside I really felt like I was in there and then Harry was like oh they're going to make a VR game of this because it looks so

fun God I hope this season really takes off I really do and that's yeah it's just there's going to be so many moments people are talking talking about but I really hope I really hope that this takes off um Sean what's up buddy hey everyone great to see you as always really enjoying and or it's so gritty yep Mike halfway through the pit with my wife that's amazing television dude you it is phenomenal the yeah roxy look dude Sean you're not even there's something that happens like in i think it's 15 episodes i think in like episode 10 you're gonna blow your mind 15 episodes what uh Mike Joyce I don't understand that George wouldn't like this complaint he sold star wars to disney why does his

opinion on Star Wars matter now. It's been an interesting account. I mean, George Lucas, and I always say this too, not the best dialogue written guy. That's been, that has been documented since the Harrison Ford days in episode four. You can write the shit. You can't say it. But one of, if not the best storyteller of all time. So why wouldn't you want to get his opinion on it? But what I hear, I hear he's a big fan of Andor. So the person in the comment section saying, George wouldn't like this. You're wrong. That's all. Yeah.

I feel also though there's something evolutionarily not right from the 70s to now that people expect the same storytelling from the 70s to now. There are the same strokes of politics, of regimes, of rebellions. but they're evolved to the way that we interpret and understand news and and politics and history. It's not going to stay the exact same. But it does keep the heart of it. It should in the same. That's why it matters that you get some of his opinion, but that's why I don't get why people think he wouldn't like this.

It's everything that he did in Star Wars is what Tony Gilroy is doing. the parallels to certain things, regimes, as you said, fascism, all these different things, the empire, what it is, this is what he was doing. The only difference is he made it, this is not a space kind of opera, the way that George was doing a kind of homage to Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers and all that.

This is not that. It's not like there's, there's elements of the space adventure. that elements is the space adventure for sure but it's a more it's a dark mature version of star wars but it's all the same themes that george was playing with um kore m cassian and the rebels were the least interesting storyline for the first two i agree but i think it showed a good juxtaposition between the rebellion and the empire where they're at cool they're on yavin the whole time yep yeah i think that's a really good point great point and i agree with you i'm telling you though corey mike everybody who said the same thing that I said after watching

two. Once that's casting the rebels, once that's over after two, now you'll be locked in everything that he's doing. There's nothing that he's doing now that you won't be like. Yeah, that's what it seemed like. Yeah. That was, that was the only part, the only part where I felt like it was

those other shows, like I felt like he got, and I hate to say this too, but when all those rebels and stuff were in there, like, and they were having that goofy back and forth and all that, Mike, I said, yeah, I was like, was this a Filoni? note was the first thing I thought of it. When they were doing that like rock paper, scissors

bullshit, I was just like, it felt like a What are we doing here? It felt like a Faloni show. It felt like one of those, one of those shows of the things that they've been doing and I'm like, oh no, oh no, are we getting into, is this what going to happen? And then it never happens again. Speaking of Faloni, what did you think, wasn't it, didn't it come on a Star Wars celebration where he

is, he's writing all of Asoka 2 and he's like, I just wanted Asoka writing a wolf. And it's just like, well, the Roku writing wolf is part of the animated thing. But yeah, it's like he wrote the first. season two and doesn't have any help with it and that's the problem he's he's same thing with him he's a good storyteller he is not a good screenwriter he's just not it's not a good screenwriter he's a good story i think it's a lot of times it goes to the point where people every time something like they do it a lot with batman like

get the animated series people writers to write the movie it's like it's different you writing a like his it's different writing for animation is completely different writing from the screen it's way different it's way different and he like i said he similar what we're talking about with george he's a very good storyteller. He's a good storyteller. He's got good moments and he understands the lore of Star Wars. And he's like that part of it, yeah. But to be, to be so like, no one else is writing

this except me. It's a mistake. It's a big mistake. Because the first, the first season of Ossook was a not well-written show at all. Actually, poorly written. I don't remember a lot of it. Gugly-y-y-y-y-ugel. Is pineapple pizza, real pizza? I respect that some people like pineapple,

but I'm angry. The only well-made pizza around it has pineapple. on it. So take that's the only one I guess can't just say just don't put the pineapple on it. No, take that take the if they give it to you and they don't allow you to take it off, what you do is you wear cleats and you stand in the middle of that restaurant and you kick it into the, and you kick it right into the trash or you kick it into the roof and then they kick you out. You know, why'd you do that and say you can take the pineapple off this pizza because you're savage. I love pineapple and pizza. Get out of here, Steph. Get out of here.

What is the problem? It's not, it's stupid. It's not like, it's not like a Recy Cup. It's like two great tastes that go great together. It's bullshit. There's no business. No. It just is.

No, stop this. No, it works. It works. You guys are East Coaster. You're too strict. If you're one of those people, Steph, that takes in a movie theater, your bag of popcorn and dumps like Eminem's in it, aren't you? Do you know what you're doing right?

No, I don't eat popcorn because it's loud and annoying. Do you know what you're doing right now, stuff that I don't want? you're making Mike and I get along and agree on something against the common enemy. Hey, I just watched Miracle. I'm okay with being that head coach right now. Gavin O'Connor. Was it Erb Ritz? Herb. Herb. Gee. That's another Gavin O'Connor movie. Nathan Stowe, support. Thank you, Nathan. That brings us to 37 so far. That's pretty good. Bobby, Jackson. Watching Ander really makes me wish Tony Groy would produce show and an adaptation of Lost Stars same.

I actually want to see him. I don't disagree. I wouldn't complain about that at all, but I, especially in that time period, but I'd actually like to see him adapt, um, uh, the Plagueist novel into, into a movie. I think it would please and or and Pew Pew fans, which I also agree. I'd like, that's the one thing. I'd like to see a Jedi story, um, like this, a mature, kind of well-written show.

I'd like to see, imagine if, imagine if Obi-1 and a, Soka and those and Bobavit, they were well written. Imagine that. If it was well written and like 45, 50 minutes shows, people wouldn't have been complaining about it. Like with the production, those are the properties that you talk about dropping the ball. You could have done, you don't have to make it as dark as this, but a well written 45, 50 minute show. That's how you do it. Stop with these 30 minutes, pu-pue nonsense. Monsters, monster. I think about this. Oh, God, almighty, this internet today. I fucking hate my life.

I love that. You can see it too. It looks like he's, oh, no, no, no. No. I'm thinking back, like I'm thinking about Android. And then I think back to it was at Obi-1 where he's driving in the car and he gets stuck at the stop and the gate. And like you could have gone around the gate, but they got a gate in the middle of a road.

And the guy pops off and he's like, what do you got back there with that like alien to his mouth? I was like, we can go back there. Like, oh, God. Dude, I, you know, I will say, oh, wait. No, I almost, almost said something I was supposed to say, never mind. Alan Smith. I know, I just realized.

But I was, I do remember one of our, more favorite moments on Sith Council is, what is she proposing? What are she proposing? First Netflix video. First Netflix kill video stores. I worked at four different video stores. Now they're coming to kill movie theaters.

I now work on theatrical exhibition. why is Netflix trying to kill my career? I'm going to write a letter. You got to write a letter. That's wrong, Alan. For Alan. Chris Graneer, I saw Interstellar for the first time with my wife, and I guessed the plot in the first 15 minutes, but still enjoy the film.

Have ever done something similar? Yes, because after watching this, after seeing movies the way, especially when I was watching movies with Ellis, Ellis and I would go see like four or five movies a week, that you just start to see a lot of the same formulas that we were like, I we just started picking out well that's gonna happen yeah that'll happen oh that's something gonna happen and then it did so not fun but it just happened what's wrong Mike yeah I'm trying to fix something just shut your mouth don't pay attention to me how about yourself

oh I'm doing so great no no no what you think what you think of has that ever happened to you oh yes yes yes but yeah it happens if I'm not in the right if I'm not even if intercellar is like that There's a few Nolan films, I feel like Inception is the same where I'm like, okay, I love this, but I don't know what's going on yet. Yeah, I think that's totally normal. Mike, how about you? I'm trying to think if I've seen a movie where I knew what was going on. Not really. Okay.

For fuck sake. Fuck you. Wait, turn the Wi-Fi off on your phone. Is it only thought it. No, I'm not on my foot. I see if I will. You're saying it's going to help. Yeah, I see.

Okay, yeah, good point. Yeah, it's right here next to my computer. So I'll do that. Let's say that helps. Let's see. Big Al the tank. There we go. One way out and Luthan's monologue were in the same episode.

You're telling me there's one better than that coming up for sure, loving it so far. Yes. I'm telling you. These are my, and I loved episode three. Loved it. There are quite a few episodes that, blow this out of the water. Blow it out of the water.

That's such a good callback, one way out and Lutheran's monologue. I didn't, I forgot those were the same episode. So good. I forgot he wears a wig. Like to fit in with everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. I love it. Tyler Pfeiffer.

For years, I went to one movie a week with a movie club of eight people. I'm the only one still consistently going to theaters. It's a bummer. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah. Now your internet's starting to fart around. Was your, it's so good coming for the wig?

Oh, yeah. Perfect. Was it delayed? And now you're on delay. You're about to disappear again, I think. Oh. Perfect. All right.

So Mike Joyce, who's a celebrity you disliked before it was cool to do so? It's Russell Brand for me. He's always given me a bad vibe. I was never a Josh Whedon guy. I was never a Joss Whedon guy. I remember when Josh Whedon, when I used to talk about how I always thought he was overrated. People used to get so mad at me, but you can say that all day long now.

No one cares. Huh, that's a good question. Good, separate, you know? Army Hammer. Oh, you never liked Army Hammer? Gave me the KBGBs. From the beginning? Yeah, something about his eyes.

Good radar stuff. Something about his eyes, yeah. I have two. No, go ahead. Seagall? Stephen Seagall. and Tom Seismore. Tom Seismore had problems.

He was a dickhead, though. You can have problems, but not be a dickhead. I heard he was actually a nice guy. Yeah. But he was, he had problems. So, all right, so then I'll stick with Stephen Seagall. He was a douche. My favorite, my favorite thing I ever saw is they showed a couple of videos worth.

Oh, no, I got a better one. Go ahead, Mike. Oh, Cogan. Oh, Cogan. I never like Togan. I never liked him. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

He was a little too much, right? This Tropic Thunder TV shows, like a little too much. I can't, I can't say, it's not Tropic Thunder. Tunders is a different movie, but I know what you're saying. It's the, the Tropic and Paradise, Thunder and Paradise. I can't say that. I was a big Hogan guy growing up. I was always a shit.

Armada, the studio new episode made me pissed off at the docs that were, the doctors are being dicks to Seth while Hal's character told Seth to calm down, but it still was funny. Yeah, I mean, that was kind of the point overall, but like, yeah, the way that whole thing ends. And it was good to see Rebecca Hall. I've seen her in a bit. Yeah, it was. I like her.

He's really good. Go, pal. I love Dandar, but one thing stuck in my head, how did an adult person grow up in an imperial orphanage when the empire is 14 years old? They were talking about Dejura, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, the math might be off a little bit, too. Unless, well, unless she, you know, has always thought about, because remember,

yes, 14 years old. At that point, though, was it 14? I guess when she said it, it was. But still, whether she was working for, when it was an orphanage during the rebellion or during the actual or the old republic, whatever it might have been,

she probably could have just said, you know, wants to transfer over because it was always under that rule. But yes, that you could probably you could probably nitpick that and get to that. I saw a couple of people complaining about that. It's a shame where people don't go to the theater.

So many movies I want to see are only in theaters for one week, and I forget about them when they stream. I mean, that's true. That is true. There's just so much to watch unless like, oh, here's a perfect example. So I just watched Havoc, which is the Tom Hardy movie that's coming up.

Okay. Tomorrow. So, what are you taking a nap? Hey, guys. Taking a nap, no. This guy. Hey, Mike, how many fingers I got? Hold on.

How am I holding up? Mike? My finger is hold up. And now, and now, yes, did your, did your volume go out now, too? Oh, I've muted myself. Sorry. Oh. We would have loved to have seen that.

So good. Anyway, so I just saw Havoc, the Tom Hardy movie, right? And it's like, that movie, 15 years and... I don't know. What am I allowed to say? I enjoyed watching. I was just out. I did a reaction to it.

It's going to come out on the weekend. But yeah, it's like, it's the guy who did the Gareth. Yeah, the raid. Yeah, Evans, who did the raid. And it's, it's just that that movie,

there's no world. That movie doesn't come out in the theater 15 years ago. And now it's straight to Netflix. And it, I think it's going to do significantly better on Netflix than it would have done in the theater, like significantly. Um, okay. I need to see that.

Yeah. support for Steph, Mike, and Mike's dogs. Thank you. Guys are around 40 away from tying proxy at the moment. This is a rough day today. Yep. Armada. I need that and or ballroom song. It was, people are going.

Amios or Namios or whatever. People are going to be listening to that song. Yeah, they probably dropped. Yeah. Did you, did all you guys like the Agent Carter TV series? I did. I never watched it. I like Haley Atwell, though. I'll tell you that.

I just felt. it was one of those things at the time where it was just like the MCU wouldn't acknowledge it, that in agents of shield was kind of like, those don't exist. Right. But they kind of do. And it was like the,

you could tell the fighting between like, I think it was ABC and this. Well, it's Palmutter and Figey at that point still. Yeah. Yeah. I never watched it. Oh, damn it.

Yeah, you missed it, fucker. All right. Armada. I need Richard to help me unclog my toilet. this white castle hits crazy. Talk about a motor around a castle. Hey, listen, I don't hear that kind of stuff anymore. I got to be honest with you.

I mean, White Castle, belly bombers. You walk in there, you take a bite and you shit on the floor about 30 seconds later. But it's still worth it because it's cheap and it's good cheese. Thank you, Richard. Appreciate it. All right. Next one.

Spencer Anthony, two weeks ago, at the start of the show, Mike was muted as I ordered Taco Bell. Right as Mike was unmuted, the Taco Bell did. The Taco Bell ding went off. on my phone timing. Just for you. Comic timing. Go pal. I noticed they stuck with the Nazi costume design

for the enlisted imperials like with the officer. Good attention to detail. I'm telling you, man, this is the most devastating that the empire has been since the original trilogy. And even more so, to be honest with you. They just have more time to spend there with them. Yeah.

So that's, that's it's really. I forgot. I don't know the actor's name, but the guy that plays deadra's boss there has never been an act of nice that oh he's never been more fit to be an imperial officer ever that hair out so good that whole dynamic of what they're doing also with just think of it as a gift yes and they're keeping it quiet from everybody else like working with uh with krennick to figure out like what what's going to happen with the mining and all it's it's it's so good it's so good Aaron the creative over or under 35 percent that fin is in star war starfighter i'll go under I'll go under because of the budget

and they haven't lend anybody else too. They're not going to get Boyega for cheap. So I would say under. What about, what about you see? Yeah, but they would be a good team up. They're not going to try and tie it to the movies at all. Well, I will say that they probably will a little bit,

at least mention something because it takes place like what, five years after or something like that? Was it 10 years? How many years did they say? They said in the interview, that there's like it's like five or ten years after episode nine. No. Yeah.

I don't know. Mr. Nerd Phenetic, my buddy got a 4K copy of Demolition Man. He never saw before. Such a fun time. Wesley Snipes and Stallone. What a great combo,

three seashells. I love, have you ever seen that movie stuff? I bought that recently. Oh, man. You saw a Demolition Man's death? I'm so, I really need Steph to.

You need to move. I'm going to move. Yeah. All right. Cal, you get in that chair sponsor or what? I already, I already in one of the video, I figure which video it is, but there is a video where I have, and I tell everybody about this chair and where to get it.

I remember which video it was. It was one of the reactions. So go and check it out, but like we did a full on, full on video with this chair. It's pretty great. It's comfortable, very comfortable. I like it. I like it a lot.

Dancing Dog 60, think back to the future will ever be remade. I hope. Remade. I hope never. However, they, yes. Hopefully there could be a spinoff in the same way that they did like Cobur because Coburkeye kind of teases it

in the finale of Cobur guy. But I think that there could be a series again like using Andor as an example. Now, not to the extent of how serious it is, but if you could

it's time travel. Anybody in time could find that damn Delorean. Anybody could. Now you're not going to have Marty. You're not going to have Doc. Maybe you could. But you could do a spin-off series with the Delorean if you found good characters. And it's not an easy task.

Because right away, you're going to go, no, it shouldn't be touched. It shouldn't be touched. You said the same thing about Cobur guy. Shouldn't be touched. No one should do a series about it. He shouldn't do a series. And then they did. They did it right. But it's not easy. Anything you had the two leads of Cobur Kai back. You brought everyone back. 100%.

You did it. Do Bill and Ted go back to the future? I know. Listen, it would be hard to do, but you could do it if you had characters that found, if you had even had old, because Christopher Lloyd's still around. Sometimes movies should just be left alone. I don't disagree with you, but I'm just saying you could do a series if you wanted to. Nerds Engage.

For Mike always talking the time to pause and think about his answer is, great show everyone. That's right. He's just thinking. intensive. My mom always taught me to think before you speak, so that's what I do. 45, with about 24 minutes left to go. Stepp and Mike, for the win. I always say, fuck the world. Yeah. For the win, Mike. Johnny Bravo, I'm with Steph. I like pineapple on pizza. Stop this, Johnny.

It's not every time, but I do. Is it the sweet and salt, do you like? What is it? Yes. Yeah, it's that I'm like a flavor blast kind of. girl. I want all the sauces. I like my pineapple and pizza and I follow it down with a mountain dew Arctic blast. I don't drink that but yeah. Bullshit. You know what?

I didn't even think I'd ever do this to you but after that comment should have gone for the head. Mistake. I just use the woman and then you say oh and then how did that just happen? No. Unreal. Unreal.

I just got snapped for not. Are you wearing, are you sitting in like a leather bound chair? Like a godfather chair? That's like something in the godfather's office. Right. Exactly. Because I'm serious. Yeah. Hell yeah you are. Go pal. One way out. Reminded me of no way out. Criminal underrated movie in a great hackman performance. It is good. That's Kevin Costner, right? Yeah. I forgot he was in it as I watched a year ago. Is that the one? I always forget,

which is the one with Madeline Stowe and Kevin Costner? I think that's one way, no way. I think that's no way out. That's a good movie. I think so. I think so. Handsome Ransom. Everybody getting Thanos snapped on the K-H-show. That's right. That's right.

Yep. Yep. Damn. See? Steph went bye-bye for that. Oh, bye-bye. Take. Brandon Summers.

What's up? Brandon? What you've been? Which movie will be reviewed receives better? Starfighter or Mando and Grogo? My N-6-day Starfighter, but I feel like they needed to be Mando. It's a great question. And I agree with him a thousand percent.

I think Starfighter will 100% be rated higher, a better reviewed movie. This Mano Grosu, I'm excited to see it. It is that it's an episode of the television show. It's no different than what they did with Moana 2. Moana 2, rightfully so. Iger goes, what the hell are you guys doing? You're going to put this on TV? A series?

No, rewrite it and put it on a recut it and put it on a damn in the theater. And then a billion dollars, almost a billion dollars later, right? call same thing you guys are going to do another season of this that's last season they didn't love john can you have all the scripts done yeah we have all the scripts done can you condense it and make it a movie yeah all right great use that budget yeah so we're we're paying for pedro pascal we're not we never see his face right make a movie make a damn helmet often right do a couple of shots yeah i love how the one shot they showed at starboard celebration is him without that helmet on yeah it's a tv show it's it's it's a tv show so the better people most people are going to say

Real quick. It was good. Stop it for a second. Most people are going to say that it was pretty much an episode of the television show, but well done, I bet you. Go ahead. So were you guys surprised at all that aside from Gosting showing up,

there was no news to come out of that celebration. They didn't even show a trailer or a clip for Man, don't grow. They showed it. They just didn't release it. Then no one's talking about it. Well, I didn't hear any. I wouldn't have known that.

But you, tell me so I was thinking about this that was happening outside of the star if you don't have Star Wars in your handle on Twitter no one was talking about footage oh my God that's true um and that's that's that's telling that's yeah it's telling no well I think it was a major mistake for them not to release that I didn't even see a description of the footage anywhere they should they should have released it it it was basically Sigourney weaver kind of like telling them you know what the mission was and they have to go out and and it looked it you know it I thought they showed the behind the scenes picture of her I don't know it was it was a it was a it was

There was a scene from the movie. Yeah, it was a trailer. They showed a trailer. No, what's talking about this? I think it was a, I think it was a floney error. Even the Star Wars diehards. I don't see them like, oh my God, I can't wait, this and that, nothing. I think it was a mistake not to put it out.

That and then they announced a Darth Maltz animated show. They said Tyca's movie. On. Yeah, they said Tyca's movie's still happening. They said that. You did. They said Chinori's movie is still happening. And they said that, um, what's the other one?

So a lot of, a lot of fart burger, a lot of nothing. Yeah, nothing, nothing really. Um, but they still is more confirmation. Maybe they learn their lesson. But more than the information of the movies are coming, but the official title for Starfighter and an release date. So,

but I think we all agree with Brandon that Starfighter's probably going to be the better movie. Yeah. It seems like, and because just going off the announcements, I was genuinely excited to hear that announcement and see Ryan Gosling on stage. I feel like that.

it's a cool beginning and I hope it really plays out. Yeah. Jake S. Between sinners and godless, can Jack O'Connor finally get more roles? He's fantastic. I hope so. Jack O'Connor is great in sinners.

Yeah, he is. It's great. I haven't seen it yet. Did you do, have we talked about the fact that you've seen it before, Steph? Like,

I don't think I, you had not, had you seen it? No, no, because it hadn't come out. Oh, yeah.

It's great. I don't want to say too much for Mike and everyone, but yes, it is. My favorite movie the year so far. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I thought that as soon as it, like, I feel like halfway through, I was like, okay, I think this is going to be, I feel like this is it for now. This is great. And even though, look, I loved Severance season two and or is my favorite show

of television right now. Oh, me too. Yeah, yeah. Like, like, I'm curious to see where Last of Us goes, but I really like. Severance season two but and or is way way better with you I feel like this month has just been unreal for watching stuff right now Jake S between sinners and oh I did that one already sorry come on now oh dancing dog 60 I personally enjoyed the ghostbusters reboot with the women more than I did with little kids oh really I think the little kids just being I I think little kids just

belonging to goney so I don't I don't agree with that I actually really I I like frozen empire more than most I did not like the reboot with Melissa McCarthy had nothing to do with the fact that the women were women. I had no problem with that. I had a problem with the tone. I like Paul Fiegel a lot. I didn't like the tone of the movie. And I also think it was a massive mistake to not link it to the original movies. And that's why I really enjoyed the last two, the ones that Reitman and the other dude did for Frozen Empire.

I like them. And my kids like them too. So I think it worked out. but did you guys see, have you seen all the new Ghostbusters? I haven't seen Frozen Empire. I saw the Paul Figue one. I haven't seen the two recent ones.

Oh, okay. I, I mean, I can't mind it. I think it would have been so much better if they just said, hey, the original movies existed. This is a different,

this is like, you know, they're like McDonald's, they're franchises. So here's a group of girls that are Ghostbusters. But the fact that it's like, no,

they're not existing, but here's those actors. They're going to pop up as cameos. But not the roles. Right. If they were like, if they were like, you know, the daughters of the Ghostbusters. Not even that. Yeah.

Or really like, hey. It's whatever or got them jobs, former boss, whatever, like connected to the universe. Just have. Because they lied to you. An accurate franchise that the name Ghostbusters to different people. Yeah. So. What's stupid?

Now what? Nothing. I'm getting rid of this stupid comment. What's a comment? Is this something that's like people, I can't, like I said, someone who missed the meeting. I'm either, either like, I have. takes that are too risky for the show or I'm too safe. Get the fuck out of here.

Go pal. No way out is Sean Young and Costner. Right, right, right. That's what it was. I see it. Julius Wyatt, what are you all more excited for, Dune 3 or the Odyssey? Odyssey.

Yeah, that's for you. Dune 3 can catch a fart in the wind. Steph? Jeez. Steph. I'm going to say Odyssey only because Dune 3 is a new chapter of Dune. You know, this is, it's going to be it.

So I'm curious what it looks like. But the auditsy. Can you let it finish your thoughts? She was in the middle of saying something. That's why I stop. That's why I stop. All right. Go ahead.

No, but I'm just so excited for the audacity. And we kind of know what is at least a little to be expected. So there's just more to be excited about. I agree with you. Odyssey to me is no. I just get so pumped when Nolan does a new movie. It's so excited. and this for what they're doing for the Odyssey

and the cast that's in it. Yeah, if there was only two theaters and you can only walk into one of them and see one, I would say, I would take the Odyssey because... You guys don't want to hear about Spice and the Ben Jesuit and wailing witches. You're a witt.

Why are you being a hater? Because how the two of them raved about that movie and I was bored out of my mind. Because he's wearing Batman underwear right now. Yeah, it's a problem. Yeah, dancing dogs. 60 best frozen pizza brand Franchetta. I like Trader Joe's

pizza. I'll tell you that. Strangely enough, Trader Joe's cheese pizza is pretty good. I don't, I haven't done frozen pizza and forever. I haven't either, by the one. I will tell you that the... Because if I'm going to do it nowadays, I'm just, I'm going to go get...

Yeah. Chris Craneer, did you see the Rock interview with Pat McAfee? He blew up the entire WrestleMania 41 event and was never scheduled to be there. Also, Ross interview was epic. So did they interview? So, Chris, can you confirm? Did Pat McAfee interview Cross, or you're talking about the one that we discussed? Because if Cross interviewed, Pat interviewed Cross, I'd like to see that. But I think you're talking about the one with Sam. I did see the Rock interview, and I thought it was nonsense. I love the Rock. And I'm usually the one who's defending him against Roeke. I think it was complete nonsense. I think that what you did, unfortunately, by doing what you did is that you undermine your entire team. And I'm usually, I'm usually the one who's defending him against Roque. I think it was complete nonsense. I think that what you did, you did, I can't remember with a rant that I saw somebody who was talking about this, and I agree. What you say at that point is, you know, I think we might have been able to do that a little better.

And after watching how it played out, yeah, I think that we probably could have done that better. But we're going to, we're picking it up and we're looking at where we're going to go. And said, no, I would have done it better. And I would have done this. And it's like, dude, you can't, you can't do that. What, they didn't want to use your ideas. So you got mad of them and they're going to blow up their spot on McAfee. That's stupid.

It's stupid. And I love the rock. But that was a bad, that was a bad move. bad movie. Go Pal. Google tells me that Madeline Stowe was in a movie in Costner called Revenge. That's what it was. That's for the movie that I'm thinking of that I've never heard of.

Maybe I'll check it out. Yes, it was, that's a, that's a dark movie revenge, but that's the one I was saying. I always get those too confused. Go Pal also says, Costner's in the Navy and both. Yes, that's why I confused them to which he follows that up. Jack O'Connell is in Lady Chatterley with Emma Corrin.

I don't know that one. Do you guys know that one? Lady Chatterley's lover? I don't know. Sean McCabe throwing some portend. You guys are great. 53, guys, about 30 away with 13 minutes. I don't know.

I don't know. That was okay. So we've hit the end. So we've hit the end. Now here is what we're going to, what we're going to do. We're going to, we'll do the same thing.

Here comes another one. Julius Wyatt. Why does Mike hate June? Because he's a moron. They're really good movies. Look at him. He's frozen in time. because he knows he's...

Because they bore me. They bore me. They're boring. No, they're not. They're great. It's pretentious sci-fi boring. No, it's not. Oh, my gosh.

He's a moron. So now we're back on the same page. So I'll let you have pineapple and pizza as long as you... Thank you. Tribble. Okay, listen, here's what we have to do. We're going to say goodbye, but Steph has done this many times over when we're about to sign off.

And the next thing, you know, she wins. So, Steph, where can the people find you? I do want to let the record show that I, even though I like pineapple and pizza, if I was in a group setting, I would never be like, let's do pineapple on pizza. I would, I would be a blog. I like the other flavors, too. Yeah. It's too late.

Oh, gosh. Okay. Well, at Seth's the bra. And if you like pineapple, hell yeah. I like pineapple, just on a pizza. Mike, about you? Oh, Mike Kalanowski. Same as always, buddy boy.

All right, well. I hate pineapple on pizza. I can eat it. Good for you. All right, we got another one here. Dancing Dog 60. Back to the Future is a musical on Broadway, though. It is, but it's just their retelling of the movie, isn't it?

Yeah, and that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. All right, that's it. Well, thank you guys for being here. Well, as I said, this is the Steph Magic. The Steph Magic. Jeff Howardton, it is good, Ellie. found all that weed. She needed to pay for all her therapy sessions.

I don't agree more. It was one of the first things I thought of like fake thought because there's nothing else right now. Have you, did you play the game stuff? No. So you didn't know what was coming. No, yeah, not to yell at you, but yeah, I, well, I'm still, I'm not ready to talk. Really, you're still really. I understand. Dancing dog wants to rally for Steph, not Mike, just Steph. I understand that. Go pal.

Derek Johnson rallies for me. My boy Derek Johnson rallies for me. Napsock is a Hawaiian pizza guy too, which I don't understand because sometimes he plays like he's East Coast guy, which he's not. He's a Pizmo Beach guy, so I guess that counts as far as being a pineapple and pizza guy. Jared Guffrey, thoughts on Predator Badlands trailer. Okay, that's a, thank you. I saw the trailer, and I thought, look, look, I like Dan Tratchenberg a lot. I think that he really gets predator.

This is kind of going back to that, back to the future conversation. If you have the right person who does, everyone's like, who needs to see more predator movies? Prey, I thought was great. It worked really well. I didn't love the look of the young predator.

You just kind of, like it doesn't really look like a predator. It looks like a guy with a predator mask running around on his face. So, but that could change once I see the movie. It's interesting. Like everyone,

I saw a lot of complaints about the look of the predator. I didn't love it. But to me, I have to remember, like the first was so iconic. but also the predators are like humans. Every one of us are different. There's,

we all have, you know, distinct features, eyes and a nose and two ears and a mouth. Right. So there's going to be that. But the, stop,

stop, you're usually my buddy. Just stop it. I know. Just stop, Steph. You're usually my sidekick. I can't do this.

I'm your sidekick. I'm not. I'm done. I'm done. Okay. What are you laughing at stuff? You're laughing. Look at those hands.

You've got huge hands. kid. Look at those things. Yes, you do. Hold that hand up to this. Hold that hand up to your face, Steph. Hold that thing up to your face. You put it up to your face.

Steph, put it in my mouth, love and motherfucker. Steph, put that hand up to your face. Look at those things. Look at those things. Okay, you really, maybe you have a small hands. No, I've got normal hands. Look at it next to my face. Now look at your hand next to your face.

I have clawed. You're Pound for pound Of the nubs of your What's that? Pound for pound Greatness It's a tear

Rolling down my face Because I was just offended Big handed Pinole loving freak Yeah 100% Perfectly proportioned Thank you very much That's unbelievable

Unbelievable Poor stuff How dare you Mike How dare I I can't breathe. Steph, put your hands up. Get your hands up. Put them up.

Step, put your hands up. I can't breathe. Oh, my gosh. Oh, God, stop. Oh, that was not thought. Hold on. Oh, Jesus. All right.

We did that. Okay. Johnny Bravo, which format do you prefer? Dolby or IMAX? Ooh, it depends. I'm, I'm, I'm, an iMacs guy because it sounds pretty good there too but dolby's pretty damn good depending on the movie i like dolby just because imax the seats don't recline and there's only like a handful of good seats in an imex

theater yeah the imax is inaccessible it's not even in the conversation it's pretty good i like dolby that's fine googly googly google it pizza is star wars and pineapple is andor no i think just mean star i know he's saying Yeah, but no. Julius Wyatt, calling Dune Boring is crazy to me, but you do, you Mike. Yeah, he's the name is there. Josh O'Brien, hey guys, Christian, been a listener for 10 years since I was a sophomore in high school. Oh my God.

Love everything you do. Thank you, Josh. Voting spoilers for Last of Us and or like the plague, have a great day. Yeah, we didn't, well, spoilers, we spoiled and or obviously beforehand, but we're not going to do it anymore and definitely not spoiling Last of us. No, no, no. Yeah, go, pal. When I lived in New Jersey, there was Nepalitan, I can't even say it right now.

Help me, Mike. The Apolitan. Thank you, buddy. Pizza place in the neighborhood that I really liked. Perfect. Dancing Dog 60, the Independence Day head in Badlands trailer. What's that? I saw that.

Yeah, the skull was in the thing ship from the Independence Day alien. Yeah. Oh, really? I didn't see that. Okay. Jake, Nintendo Switch to pre-orders are live today. Kristen, do you and your family play video games together? Not really.

I mean, the kids like to play Xbox and having some problems. problems with it, but, uh, but yeah, it's pretty good. I don't get the switch, the love of the switch. I don't get it, but people love it. It's just me. Yeah, people love it. I know. People do love the, the switch for sure. Um, okay, we still have a couple more here. We're not so, wow. See, Steph gonna do it again. You're 70. You're only 10. You're 10 away.

Come on, guys, we can do this. And so. Steph has it where it counts. Um, exactly. Shumackeb Christian points on, I guess from, from my picture. Jake S. Steph for Pans Labruth remake. Perfect. I would love that. Germo del Toro. Yeah, I'm ready.

Yeah. Have you seen that movie, stuff? Oh, yeah, I love it. Brandon Summers, look, I like stuff. Mall show should be live action. Agreed. I'm going to watch for Sam Wittner, but bring back Ray Park and dove him.

There's something you carry. Agreed on all that. I think they should have done. If you're going to do you've done a live action series, with following the events of solo if you're going to do it. Like you keep seeing that, you know, again, I always preface it with,

I love John Howie. Great dude. Make Solo 2 happen is a, a hashtag that I will never get behind and always make a fart sound afterwards. But to do a Disney Plus series with it, why not? Johnny Bravo.

Mike about to catch Steph's hands to the face. That's true. You still take that whole hand, I'll be like, look, I got it. Knock me, back my fucking head in a nutshell. next week. Man, if Harry ever catches hands, he's in trouble.

That man is in trouble. Never. Never. Never. Okay, so look at that. 73. 10, 10 away. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Does Harry want to smack Mike around now? No, he just turned on the vacuum. Oh.

Harry did. Go smack him. Give him their hands. All right. Dancing drugs. If the series the Independence Day alien in this predator film, that must mean there's going to be a crossover between Alien and Independence Day. Nah, fuck that nonsense. The second one was so bad. It was so bad. Oh, that second one was awful.

Really, really bad. Oh, my God, dude. Julius Wyatt. I forgot Sol even came out until just now. Most people did. Yeah. There's like 10 people who started that hashtag. It's such a fun movie.

if they just took out the name solo. You're right. It didn't make a solo movie. If they would have just changed that and made it dash Randar, you got a great movie. Totally different character and not make it solo. How'd you get your name? Oh, Imperial gave it to me when I was trying to get into the thing.

God. Watching people trying to defend that, just a minute, it sucked. The worst. Like that one choice. Oh, you're traveling alone. You're traveling alone. Solo. Right.

The second half had me pretty good. Yes. It was dumb. Um, wow. Well, 75. We try. You tried. What a fight with, with, with three minutes left ago. But that was a good show.

It was a fun show. Oh, I'm just kidding. 76. Oh, there we go. Support for all the laughs today. Thank you, Don. Yeah, we got a good show out of this today. And I really, we'll be able to talk more about, um, about Andor.

I'm excited to see what you guys think about it. The whole thing. I cannot wait. Cannot wait to hear the next week. And I think, so for people to know, what I did and I'm going to change us. Last week, I dropped my reactions for one, two, and three separately. I'm just going to do one video for each one. So like four, five and six, I'm going to do one video.

Same for 7.89. And then 10, 11, we'll be just two separate videos for all of them. So. Real proud of you. Thank you, Billy. Appreciate it, Ralph. All right. Thank you guys.

Really appreciate everything for being here. Apple. Let's sign off. Come on. I'm just, thank you guys for the excellent show. Thank you, Spencer. We've got you to 77. Thank you. All right.

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