The Kristian Harloff Show - What is happening at Netflix?!

Episode Date: April 21, 2022

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Hey, everybody, welcome back. Netflix. In trouble? Losing subscribers. Not the giant it once was, but we knew that was going to happen with Disney Plus and HBO Max and Amazon Prime and Apple and all that stuff. And now they're changing strategy. They're going to add some ads to the platform now. You're going to stop sharing passwords. So much happening with Netflix for sure. Matt and Ben are doing another movie together.

We're going to talk about that. Liam Neeson, I think he might be a liar. And then there's something else that we're telling you to Disney and some other. shit. So that's the, that's the show today. That's, and I got Kate, I got Steph, and it's going to be a hell of a show. I'm excited for it. And if you haven't already, look, I'm so excited. Look at this.

Look at this new graphic. Do me a favor and subscribe. Hit the notification button. Hit the like button. Do all that, will you? Please, it's, it helps. It helps the show tremendously. And if you didn't know this already, Sith Council will no longer have its own podcast feed, it will be on this podcast feed. So if you listen to the big thing on podcast feed,

you will also have Sith Council now. added to that audio feed. So putting it all in one show, Sith Council essentially be an extension of the big thing. It'll just be our Star Wars show. So, all right. Steph Sabraugh, Kate Mulligan, let's do it, ladies and gentlemen.

It is time for the big thing. Let's get at it. Welcome back, everybody. Big thing. All right. So there is some stuff to talk about. And in order to talk about it, I got some people to talk about it with me.

And the first, Steph's a bra. Look at that face. I was shredding the gnar, man. I like that. Good. Hey, I missed you guys. I missed you, too. And then there she is.

Katie. Yeah. What's funny is that today? Well, this will be a very special episode of everybody because this will be the first episode ever. Like, from now on, this will always be your avatar in the bottom there. So, like, even though this is the day that you're wearing that outfit, it'll always be

Oh wait that's always going to be my It's always going to be your average Oh shite I should have retaken it Yeah I didn't even know Well now we got it I feel really Listen happy

You feel heard I feel a little tricked Into our consent That's okay So we did this on Sith Council But Steph and I decided We're going to try to do this game here I want to see if Kate can guess

And the audience if you didn't listen to Sith Council, then you can try to guess also. What is being said here? Let's see if you can guess and put it in the premiere when you're watching it. And if you know it, here we go. You told me your Kyle. Kate? You told me to Argyle.

No. Not far. You're going to have 10 guesses. Okay. You told me your Kyle. You told me you are Kyle. Nope. You got to try to really get it.

I am trying. Okay. Well, that's a bummer because that was a real guess. I thought that was good. So here we go. You told me your title. You told me. Go away from told.

You, you tow, you tow me to our, argyle. You love archial. Nothing to do with archial, nothing to do it. All right, here we go. You told me your title. You tore me. Yeah, that's a word, that's a sentence if someone would say. You tore me.

You tore me, a new asshole. You told me the argyle. What is the arggyle? The ars. The guy's name is gile. You told you tore me the are, Gile. I'll give you, I'll give you the first two. Okay.

You show. That's not at all with that gentleman said. You show me your title. You show me to, you show me to. You show. He says show. You show me to show. You show me.

You show me. Your title. You told me your title. No. It's the ura. The yola, like he has a double. Who? I know.

Cool. Can I tell you where it's from? Yeah. High on Crack Street. And he's, he's, he's a, he's a drunk. I'm shocked. You can decipher that. You show me your title.

You tell me your title. How many apartment building manager? Are you? Are you? You show me your title. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's right.

And much more clear now, isn't it? It is not. It is not at all. It is not at all. Well, you know it is clear. Netflix is in trouble. No. Oh.

How the tables have turned. I know, but it's funny because everyone talked about how they were going to, right? They were going to be the king for so long. They're going to be the king for so long. The king's. It's not your time yet, guys. Matt. Netflix.

Yeah, there we go. I listen to this because there's so much here. I have a couple predictions, too. All right, let's talk about all this. Netflix shares have taken a hit of almost 25%. in after-hours trading after it was reported that the streaming giant lost 200,000 subscribers globally in the first quarter of this year, falling to 221-64 million users. Revealed as part of the company's first quarter 2022 earnings released Tuesday, they also indicated that they expect to lose another 2 million in the current second quarter. These marked the first time they've ever experienced a quarter of subscriber losses in a decade.

Wall Street analysts expect Netflix to add 2.8 million new subscribers worldwide in its first quarter, even internal projections were targeting 2.5 million subscriber additions. So the fact that it lost subscribers has sent to chill down investor spines. Netflix also reported $7.8 billion in Q1 revenue up less than 10% from a year ago. In its letter to shareholders, the slowing of revenue growth is based ascribed to increased competition, oh shit, and it's released high household penetration, which includes sharing accounts. Recently, it has been testing a surcharge for sharing passwords in three Latin American countries, as likely prelude to a global effect to crack down the practice with Netflix

estimating more than 100 million global households currently use another households account, more than 30 million of which is North America. All right. So that's from the Wall Street Journal. And the report comes from Garth Franklin over Dark Horizons. A lot to break down here. Kate, you said you had thoughts. Well, I do.

I have lots and lots of friends who work at Netflix. And they are, so the compensation rate for lawyers at Netflix versus I have a couple of friends from our lawyers at Netflix, versus where they came from, is so much, it's egregiously higher. Like, it's like,

you're saying what they pay the lawyers as opposed to who they pay the other people who worked there. No, no, no, no, meaning like when my friend worked for NBC Universal. Yes. And then went over to Netflix.

Oh, they paid more at Netflix. They doubled her salary. Oh, got it. Okay, Netflix is basically, it's like when a pro football player is in their $30 million a year's salary.

Right. And they're buying the houses in the car. And then at some point, that ends? Yeah. Like I think the spending, that's where Netflix is now. I think Netflix is going to have to reeval. I think it's great to compensate your people,

but I think that the way in which they were hiring and the way in which they pay their people is part of the... So you think layoffs are coming. I would not be surprised or if down, yeah, so I would not be surprised. I also think this is 200,000 is not a big deal when you have 22 million, right? So it's their first loss. It's a lot of people. So a lot of people, but when they say it's going to be 2.8 million, well, now we're talking. It's exponential.

Right. So to me, I think what's going on here is probably not just the password sharing. I think what you're talking about is that they've got, they don't have the content people want. It's, it is absolutely the competition. The password sharing is the only thing that they can try to do. Yeah, well, that's not us. Well, they can try to fix that. Yeah. They can try to fix the ad sharing thing.

They can try to fix that. They can't fix the competition thing. The only way they can fix it is putting more stuff in. I mean, Steph, what else can they do right now? Because first of all, their subscription price is very expensive now. It's going up tremendously. That's how they are able to pay these lawyers because you spend so much. But when Netflix was the only game in town really was streaming,

meaning when it had just stranger things and all that, or even House of Cards when it was out, like, it was like the, I mean, HBO was cable still. Right. The streaming was Netflix and it was the only game in town really. And now, now it's got some serious competition. So what can they do? What do you think? I think that they can do a few things.

I think that now their subscription is as much as like HBO is. I'm pretty sure it was the less expensive one. And I think that in order, if they're going to make it more expensive, you have to have either an addition of a franchise that actually does really well for them. That's a movie. Or do what HBO Max did with Warner Brothers where they release their movies straight to H. HBO and theaters. I think that did wonders for HBO. I think it was done really kind of shitty to the directors and the creators.

But my family's gassed on HBO Max dropping Warner Bros. I feel like a lot of families probably feel like that. And it keeps us happy with HBO. So I think if they do that and then I know that they spend a lot of money on red carpets, they should stop doing, they don't need to really do that. Because if you have a red carpet for red notice, which is a movie that people don't understand why it's getting a seat. sequel. I think that is a lot. I know probably getting the rock on a carpet is millions of

extra dollars too. So I think that doesn't even make sense with their model. You see and cut back on spending a little bit. A little bit, but maybe focus on, I think that Netflix has become such a huge library for randomness as well as great. Yeah, it's hard to find stuff. Yeah. It's hard to find stuff. And I was just looking through Twitter and obviously there's always going to be a go woke, get broke. and that is a big argument. I don't know if there's any validity to that. But isn't that all streaming services? Totally.

Yeah. Because I just saw something about Halo. They think that the reason Halo isn't working is because of the woke thing. I think it's not working because it's just completely off from what the story was in the video game more than anything else. Oh, yeah. But a couple things that you said that I want to ask about. So the first part is HBO Max, the subscription is not that much. I just looked up.

I pay $12.99 for HBO Max, and I pay $15 for Netflix. Oh, really? Yeah, Netflix has changed your price. So that's why they're going to this ad thing is it's too much because the other question I have. 15's too much. Now, you look at something like Peacemaker, right, which did very well. You look at something like Mandalorian, or any of these Marvel series. Is Netflix maybe doing old school stuff by doing the mass bulk release thing now?

and maybe you keep people on your platform if you do stranger things week by week as opposed to putting it on one day. I just watch it for Stranger Things and then I drop my subscription. Well, that's, I mean, I would not be surprised that that is what people are doing too. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, absolutely. But if Stranger Things is on for, because look, everyone says about Obi-Wan, let me fix your camera here for a second because you're a little bit. I can also fix the way I'm sitting. Let's do that. Scoot over just a little bit this way.

There you go. Perfect. Yeah, that's perfect. That's good. It never looked better. Yeah. How dare you. I'm sorry.

For the audio listener, it was a really good bit. It was. But the question, like, everyone's talking about how Obi-1 is going up against Stranger Things

right now on May 27. And they're like, oh my God, so like, why would they do that? Well, it's only one day that they're really

going up against Stranger Things. They're going up that one day. And then if somebody says, oh, I'm just going to watch all the stranger things on that day

and then I'll watch Obi-1 week to week. Obi-1's going to win overall because it's got more weeks to do it. Stranger Things will have a bulk and everybody will watch it in bulk and then maybe someone stops their subscription and they do that with a lot of their stuff

and I think that even though bulk has become like a thing for some people I was always, I remember when Roxy brought it up and I think that I might have been when they talked about Mandalorian before it came out how I would want to watch it. I was like, oh, give me it in bulk. I'm so glad it's not bulk. I think week by week makes it more water cooler. It makes people coming back to the platform more.

And I think that that might be hurting Netflix also. What do you guys think? I think that too, something you said also made me think of the other thing, which is something you always talk about, Christian, which is like the budget for their movies? Yeah. Like, what was the budget on Don't Lookup? Wasn't that them?

I don't think it was as much as you think. I bet you it wasn't that. Maybe because of talent costs. But I think I do feel like their budget on stuff. Too much you think? Yeah, like just, I just think it's, I just think they're not, I think they're spending as if they're still making.

If they're the only game in town still. Yes. Yeah. And I think that's going to stop. But yeah, I mean, what was the question you had? No, no, if you guys thought that by week to week. Oh, yeah. I mean, listen, I also think that the truth is you're talking about franchises that Peacemaker is, you know,

Suicide Squad is now an HBO property base or HBO and Max thing. You've got Disney and Marvel properties, Star Wars properties over at Disney. What does, what property, like what property does Netflix have? They have only their own original content, which they do have elite original content. Like Old Guard, Adam Project, those are. They're great movies. Yeah, they, they're really good. Yeah.

They, I think that they have a slight marketing problem because I think that they're not getting as many eyes on these massive films as you have on other, um, streaming networks having movies. There's too much on the platform. And there's too much on the platform. I think they probably should change up their algorithm a little bit. Um, because I, like, I'm getting things that don't even make sense to me. And then I, and then I just get too stressed out and I can't look at the whole

Yeah, I barely even go on as much anymore. I'm like, I think that I'm, um, I'm holding out because I have, like I'm watching Ozark, right? Like, Ozark is something. Ozark's great. It's really good. Bridgeton. But that's the same thing.

No, I don't watch that one. But Ozark, for me, I know. But for Ozark, I'm going to watch them all probably within three or four days. And then I probably won't go back to Netflix until Stranger Things. Right. Right. But Stranger Things. I mean, I think it's better call Saul, I think, is on both Netflix and AMC, right?

Oh, probably. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. They have the best stand-up special. still, I think Netflix. I do think Netflix stand-up specials, that is still, I think, the mark for comedians.

It's like, did you get a Netflix special? I mean, I feel like Santino's talked about that. Like, for whatever reason, he's just not getting... You didn't get one? I don't think he has a Netflix special, yeah. It's interesting. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, because he has...

Because Netflix is different where it's not like back in the day, and Andrew Santino is a very funny comedian, so this doesn't... This is not the point I'm making with as far as not being funny, but I think that it's less about the comedy and more about the reach of the audience I think when you get specials on Netflix too, because there are tons of internet comedians

who are just okay that have Netflix specials. Yes. And I think Santino is beyond that. It's both. Yeah, yeah. He's funny. He's got a massive audience. And I don't understand that.

Maybe they just don't like them. I don't know. I mean, to the last time I spoke, I think he had to have one. But to my, I guess my point too is like, when you are somebody, when you have a Star Wars property, when you have, like, if somebody already liked Star Wars, then they will probably be inclined to watch The Mandalorian.

Whereas if your thing is Stranger Things, it's not like you have a stranger things, the person has to watch Stranger Things to become a fan of Stranger Things. So I think like if they also got like a some other, some other property that's not, I think they make great original things. But in order to get fans, people have to watch those original things. And if you're somebody that's like, oh, I really, I really liked Obi-Wan Kenobi in the Clone Wars, then you're probably going to watch Obi-Wan more than you're going to watch, you know. Yeah, well, they need a spinoff series.

And they need an idea like, you know, as Steph was saying, it's like when, for example, like moon night. I know it's on every Wednesday night. Yeah. I know I can get it. It's going to drop it Wednesday every night, like every Wednesday night. So that that is why I think that that weekly thing helps tremendously because when it's changed. Oh, just drop today. So you can watch it whenever.

And then, okay, what's the next? next thing you're going to watch on Netflix. That's a movie with Ryan Reynolds coming out, which seems to be every four months is a movie with Ryan Reynolds coming out because they have a deal with him. And The Rock. Yeah, I don't think those deals did very well for them either.

No, it's... They were like the first to do massive deals with actors or directors and writers or like groupings of like millions. And that's like no one's a big enough star. Like the Rock and Ryan Reynolds are like massive. Yeah, the movie stars are like... But I wouldn't like... go to a network just because you signed a deal with that.

Right. Well, that's the same reason why the movie star doesn't sell movie tickets. Yeah. It's like, that's not back in the day in the 80s and the 90s. Oh, the new Tom Cruise movie coming out. The new Will Smith movie is coming out. The new this is, that back in the day, that could get you back in.

Now it's more of Tarantino has a new movie out. Nolan has a new movie coming out, you know. Jordan Peel has a new movie coming out. Like that's the type of stuff. That's what gets people in the theaters now. Or there's this new science. fiction movie that's coming out. There's this new horror movie that looks really good. And it happens to have The Rock in it. It happens to have that helps, but it doesn't like sell.

Like look at Robert Downey Jr. became a massive movie star again after Iron Man. None of his movies outside Iron Man did anything. Right. Do a little age shit. The judge eight shit like all those movies. And he's a great actor. But they're not, people were signing up to see him as Tony Stark. They weren't and and there was still that that philosophy of or that mentality of well, they all wanted to see him in that. going to want to see him in this. And that's, the, the audience is, they shifted, the idea of what they, what they wanted to see. And it's the same as Steph is saying, I'm not just going to go watch a movie or go sign up because you got the rock. Now, if you got, if you got a particular series that the rock is in that I really liked off an IP or something that he's going to be, and that could get me

there, for sure. Yeah, the only people that I could think that could do that are creator actors, like the Donald Glovers, the Tina Fays, like Issa Rays, those people, I might join a network because if I know that they're going to be not only acting in things, but creating things that I've liked before. Right. I mean, that could potentially get you if, but even then they would have to say, and they have a brand new original series that will explore this. Oh, that sounds interesting.

I'll go do that. And it's like J.J. Abrams signs a deal with like Warner Brothers, right? It's like, JJ Abrams isn't just going to, it's okay, well, they got JJ. Okay, great, well, what, what is it? Is it going to, is it a spinoff? Yeah, I'm not watching everything just because his name's on it. Like, what is it? Is it a spinoff?

Is it a spinoff? Is it, what is it? And I think this is a whole thing. Like you look at HBO Max with that big report with DC is that this is a whole shakeup because they plan. Plan is everything. Except we talk about it on Sith Council, to a blue in the face about how movies in Star Wars have no plan.

And that's ultimately why I think they didn't resonate the way. way that people wanted to. The television shows inside of Star Wars has a plan. The Penguin series and the Batman has a plan. So that's why people are excited for it. Like if you have a plan, then it makes sense. And I think that Netflix needs to start formulating a plan because they can't just do that. Oh, we're making money hand over fist now because everybody's just coming to our thing.

You're not the only game in town. Once Disney started putting that money behind it and HBO Max, HBO said, no, no, get off cable. Let's put all of our, the HBO was the king, HBO. It's a king for years. Yes, of premium cable, absolutely. And you can see why when you look at their streaming service, every movie is great. It's quality.

Every movie that you go to in HBO Max, when you go through it's a you, that's the one place that if I'm looking for a movie, normally on Netflix, I'll be browsing through Netflix forever and not land on anything. I go to HBO Max, I'm like, oh, it's a 90s movie I haven't seen in a while. Oh shit, the Batman just dropped also. So HBO Max right now Yeah, it dropped two days ago

Yeah, yeah Have you not seen yet? I'll be back Yeah, yeah So like that's But that reaction is my point Yeah Like so now you know

Like that's right and it's easy to find Like when you go there It's one of the first things And the same thing with Disney Plus The shows that they're promoting is And I don't know if they're still doing it With Netflix Netflix Netflix had such a crappy way

They're trailers for their shows Aren't even trailers There's scenes of the most Yeah. And it's deeply annoying. It's so, I'm like, horrible.

Because if you see the wrong part, I'm not clicking it. It doesn't tell you what it is either. Sometimes it's like that, what is, I can't even tell you how many times my wife and I have been on a show in Netflix going, oh, what's this? And there's some random scene.

I'm like, I have no idea what that's about. That's not a trailer. That's not anything. And when you have HBO Max or Disney, there's an option for trailer. Yeah. And you can watch the trailer of what it is.

That is so much more. I think that, Netflix set it up for everybody and it's like, do you guys remember TiVo? Yeah, sure. Tivo is the kind of pioneer of pausing television and doing all that. And nobody remembers them really as far as like when you said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

TiVo was the first one. I got a TiVo. I have a TiVo. Everyone stole TiVo's technology. And everybody just overpassed TiVo. No talks about TiVo anymore. It's all of it. It's just, it's just, you can pause your television now. It's just part of technology. It's like you can pause streaming. You can do that's that's ultimately what led to all this, but nobody talks about it anymore because you got overlapping. You didn't change and you weren't able to capitalize on it. Or maybe they did.

Maybe they sold the technology. I don't know. But either way, Netflix has to be careful because by putting all of their shit on one platform with no plan of how to find it, I think you get rid of this whole bulk thing. I think it's an issue. Yeah.

There's so, yeah, there really is so much to weed through. Yeah. I feel like we always find something, quicker. I'll tell you what else. I think Hulu has really started to come to play also. Yes. They have. Well, they also. Beyond Disney. Oh, right. I always had Hulu before. No, Hulu rocks. Like, I love Hulu. But Hulu. Disney owns Hulu and ESPN. Okay. Yes. So that's why you can get those bundle package. The only reason why, though, I feel like Hulu, at least for me, is more user-friendly, is because they don't have, like, they only come out with a certain number of shows. And usually, like,

they're really good shows, but I know exactly what I'm looking for as soon as I get to the app. Give it to you, like the dropout, right? If I want to, drop out as a show, I wanted to watch, and I'm like, I don't have to search all over the place to find it.

It's there in the section. I feel like I'm about to make your life easier. Maybe I'm wrong. Do you pay for Hulu and Disney separate? Well, I got the Disney deal when Disney Plus came out because I was a Disney movie subscriber. So you got that for the full year. I got it for three years for something like 100.

I mean, it was something absurd. Okay. Well, you can, because you, But when that's up, then I'll bundle. You can bundle ESPN, Hulu, and all at the same. And also, Hulu is who I have. Showtime through. Okay, yeah.

Yeah, right, right. And, like, look, with Amazon Prime and Apple now coming to do some more stuff, it's like. Apple shows are so good right now. There's only so much because, because now, that's what, it's cable now. It's not cable. Cable is a dinosaur, right? This is how people take in their stuff now.

It's like, it is surpassed it. Because when we were cable cutters before there was a term for it, because we're like, oh, we can't pay $100. We're definitely paying $100 a month right now for all of our various streaming services. It's like wild. But when you look at the amount. Right. Because that's the thing.

Because of the stuff that you had before, you didn't feel like it was worth it when you had 97 channels on cable paying $150 a month. Totally. When you're like, okay, I only really pay, I barely watch. I watch HBO. I don't watch Showtime as much, two reels. But now each service is like its own cable. Yeah.

So you're basically paying for each one of it. That's why it's like, okay, well, I can't miss that show. I can't miss that. And so that's why when we talked about this with streaming, it was going to happen where eventually for people who can't do all of it, they're going to have to pick and choose, like which ones they want. And that's why Netflix, by beefing up their prices, that hurts. I think that that's why this other report, this is a very Netflix heavy episode today, obviously.

And Netflix is also planning to roll out less expensive advertising supported plans, AVOD, alongside its subscription plans, the SVOD. So here's what they say. As part of some of the not so great results as part of the company's quarterly earnings called Tuesday, Netflix CEO, excuse me, CEO, Reid Hastings revealed the company will be examining what those plans will look like over the next year. or two. And Hastings, who has been adamantly against adapting an AVOD strategy, has now warmed up to the idea. Those who have followed Netflix know that I have been against the complexity of advertising and a big fan of the simplicity of subscription, but as much as I am a fan of that, I'm a bigger fan of consumer choice. And allowing consumers who would like to have a lower

price and an advertising tolerant, what they want, makes a lot of sense. Hastings also adds the fact that AVOD tiers have been embraced by its competitors, like HBO, Disney, Who, which has led to the company changing its thinking as the model has shown to work for his competitors. That's the truth of it, by the way. That's the truth of it. Don't give me this whole thing. You know, I realize that there's consumers, no. Because if consumers were making a stink about it, you didn't have any competition.

You wouldn't be saying shit. Yeah, that's right. Hastings adds that when Netflix does launch an ad back tier, it would do so as a publisher without data tracking and ad matching that some competitors are embracing. The news will come to music to the ears of various top marketers who have been pushing for, the streaming giant to let them advertise on their service. Okay. So a lot there.

Obviously, the last part of that is very important. If you are now Snickers or hell of freaking vacuum cleaners. I am both of those things. I'm both. I'm a snicker vacuum cleaner.

Netflix is taking ads now. Get on, get on, put some, do it. Netflix is taking ads. Stranger things. Do it. Quick, quick, quick. They're going to make their money back there. A hundred percent. they will. Yeah, absolutely they will.

I mean, if that's saying they'll make 100% of their money, but they're going to make money. Of course they're going to make money. And I will tell you right now that I will probably go down to that tier when that comes out. Because I don't want to pay $15 for Netflix because I barely watch it, but I keep it because I don't want to sign back up when Ozark comes out. And I got stranger things. I keep it for now.

So do you're, I mean, the other thing I will say is that, um, kids? My kids. Yeah. Disney. Disney and Paramount Plus.

Because they have all Nickelodeonians. Well, this is what, this is what else I was going to say. I do wonder too, like how Paramount getting the NBC library back from Netflix has effect. Like, Dickie would never get rid of Netflix when it had the office on it. But now he's like, we could get rid enough. Because Paramount has it now? Oh, you mean, Peacock has it.

Peacock, sorry. I'm sorry. Why did I say Paramount? I know, I'm now considering getting Peacock. I saw two episodes of Fresh Prince on the plane. And I was like, why are they making the, it's excellent. That's what I heard. Wait, Bel Air?

Yeah, Bel Air. Okay. You said Fresh Prince and I was like, yeah, I was like, that's great. isn't it? How did you never see that? I know know. I saw one of the best shows of all time, but this is a great show. Apparently it's really good. I've heard this, I heard that it was really good too. It is. But Peacock is cheap by the way.

Pete, that's why I keep. I know. I think I'm going to do it. I think I'm going to do it. I think I'm going to do it. I think I have seen because I think I can't see. we can't do ads. See, I don't mind the ads. No, but I think I have, I think I have limited ads because when I watch movies, I don't get any ads. Okay. And, but I really like Paramount Plus. I watch Jack. I watch Jack The last the other day recently. Oh, my God. That movie rocks.

It's so funny. Like, I still haven't seen Scream. I'm going to watch Scream. But like, I... Then you get the Nickelodeon library on that, too. That's what I mean. So that's... Oh.

If you, right now, if you're like, you have to get rid of Netflix, would your kids care? No. Because my, my youngest, Paramount Plus, Disney, and HBO Max for Sesame Street. I can't lose... I can't lose Pokemon and Bakugan. Oh, see. I mean, that's... That's not, like, and Cocoa melon, you can find on YouTube.

Wow. Yeah. So it's like, it's like, it's... It's kid stuff, HBO Max has is now. Paramount Plus. Paramount Plus. Yeah. It's got everything.

Bubble guppies. All this shit. Like, I'm telling you. We never had parents. We never had Nickelodeon so the boys don't even know. They don't even know. Ironically, Nickelodeon bought our house for us because it's hilarious. I love Nickelodeon so much.

Everybody watch the Thundermans and dangers of force. Yes. Oh, there's another. But, and my oldest watch is Nickelodeon also, though, too. It still watches like all a Henry Danger and all that stuff. Then tell her to watch Danger Force. I will. I think she watches Danger Force.

That's great. He writes on that show. Oh, let's keep his job there. Is he right now now? Yeah. Okay. She watched Danger Force.

Yeah. Yeah. You should have her. Once COVID's, excuse me. Once a pancakes, sorry, once a pancake is flipped.

Once that pancake slipped, then she can come. And people are on set again. Yeah. It would be great. That would be great. We went to a Henry Danger one. Oh.

And she, so much fun. She, because my buddy. Because your buddy's on. is, is, is,

is, the man. Yes. Yeah. So, anyway, so doing this, I think, is a good plan for them by going, and they got to the root of it, the honesty at the end, where it's like, well, our competitors are doing it, so we need to do it because we clearly, we're not just, it's like, it's like, I think it's like, I think it's like W. W.W. versus like WCW back in the day when it's like, yeah, we're doing everything. Nobody's competing with us. And it's like, no, no, no, we're losing, we're losing in the ratings now. We're not, we're not, we're not as powerful as we were. have to change.

Yeah. And that's exactly what they're doing. Well, this is the thing that's sort of wild is, does it say they're not number one in the ratings? No, no, no. It doesn't say that yet. Because I was going to say, like, the truth is like they're probably the only

platform that's losing subscribers at the rate they are, but they're so massive that they're still probably. They are, but it's still, well, a loss is a loss. But listen, read the tea leaves. Like, this is that. Read the trend. You can say, we're still number one. Investors don't want to hear that.

They want to say, like, yeah, but how are we growing? Yeah. How are we continue to grow? That's right. And the other thing that continuing on to the last part of this whole Netflix story is the password crackdown, that's another thing they want to do. And they even say it in the report at one point. And they didn't care because they had all the subscriptions. They didn't care.

But now they have to. So basically what they're going to do is Netflix may have talked up the potential revenue stream of a password sharing crackdown yesterday during its earnings call, but actually implementing it. that's going to be a whole other story. So deadline reports that in a Q&A conducted after with executives, they confirmed they began some light test launches over a year ago and just concluded a first big country test. A global solution, however, will take a while to work out the various logistics and so will require a year of iterating and deploying

before it can fully implement according to COO Greg Peters. Peter says the idea isn't to wipe out password sharing, but to charge people to do it. And so Netflix will be focusing more on revenue and subscriber accounts as opposed to individual subscriber numbers. I mean, again, they're just trying to do everything that they can to get a hold of this thing right now. Can they use this effort and time to solve world hunger? Like, you guys spent hours on password sharing? Like, what?

You know what? We'll stop password sharing. If you have more than one show people are coming back to, I feel like people are more likely to password share when they're like, oh, I just want to watch this one show in your account. Because no one wants to screw up someone's cue. Like I don't give my password to people who I know are going to watch hella shows because I'm like, you're screwing up my cue.

Now like it's going to recommend me something I don't want. You watch one show. Go ahead. I share the only, I only share, the only thing I actually, there's one, there's one account I share. Yeah. It's Ellis says, right? There's one account that he gave me.

Okay. And, but because I don't want to do what Steph just said. Yeah. I created my own account. Yes. I'm in my own profile. Yeah, yeah. So I created my own profile.

So when I go to it, I don't mess up his cue. I have my own profile because I don't want, he's going to be watching Sesame Tree. So this is. Yeah. But either way, it's the only one. The rest of my, I have myself. But he back in the day, we would share that stuff all the time. I was like, do you have HPM X-P-M-X?

You're so happy. He doesn't have a wife. Yeah. I know. You know what else? He's so happy. He doesn't have your life. So there you go.

He watched the dude. He's going to get married. see his post with the dude? No. Oh, he watched the dude for like two days and he was, he had great posts with the dude. They were,

oh, I didn't see that. I don't know what he did. So Molly, Molly wasn't there for the two days. Oh, okay, okay. But what, so the dude is, his nuts grew in,

right, pretty. And so he, he, he, we house trained him. This is Christian's son. By the way, we're all talking about Christian had a baby.

Yeah, but he, but he, but he was monitoring his balls. Yeah. True. So he was, he was pissing on,

like he was he was pissing outside got him we got him good house trained and all that but then his nuts grew in and he's just like oh is that mine i'm gonna piss on that because it's my territory isn't shit in house just like kind of like oh my nuts i'm gonna i should piss on that right is that a thing when the nuts grow in yeah and it's like and he goes oh this is this this this needs to be pissed on right yeah this and it's like this is the one you want me to piss on this zipper right yeah i'm gonna go yeah i'm going to i'm going to the bathroom i'm gonna yeah take me outside okay we're outside okay good this curtain i'm supposed to piss on this right it's like no asshole don't don't And it's like, finally.

So I tell Alice, I go, look, he's, he's going to, he's been pissing here and there. So just be careful, keep an eye on him. So for two days, pissed on anything? No, nothing. Not that he found. That's what I said. That's what I told Sadie. I said, he's going to find puddles of piss everywhere.

But, but he said, no, nothing. But I will say this. He comes back. Haven't seen him do it once. You know what? I wonder if he smelled Molly all over the house. And maybe that was it. But he came back.

But he came back here and he's been, oh, he's been, he's been, he's been an angel lately. Mark probably, the pug whisper. You don't know what happened. You beat the piss out of them. Yeah.

You see the dexter side of Mark? Check for bruises, man. Yeah, it's true. It's a different dog. Yeah, he's switching up. Yeah, I thought his neck looked a little fatter, actually. You want to talk about switching up. How about Coinbase?

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The Patriot. The Patriot. Braveheart. Braveheart. Patriot. Braveheart. Braveheart. Braveheart.

Did I, so the other thing that I was, I reviewed it yesterday is the Northman. Oh. It's good, man. Is it? It's really dark, but it's good. Okay. I want to see it. You like dark movies?

Oh, yeah. And you like it. It's really good. It's brutal. It's brutal. Do kids die? So. I can't.

Yeah. So. I don't like violence. I don't like violence and you definitely shouldn't see it. I'll just close my eyes. You'll close your eyes for 85% of the morning. Yeah, I do that. Anything you can watch.

Yeah, yeah. I watch a lot of things. No, I watch it. You watch it all. He was violent. No, if it's worth it, it's worth it. I'll watch it.

But it does make me feel ill like if I. She just answered you like asshole. Yeah. Okay. It's worth it, twat. I just do it from this, like, a restricted view. Oh, you can do violence. Torture.

Like, I'm talking about, like, intense violence. Oh, yeah. If someone shoots off someone's kneecaps, I'm like, bro, what? I can never get the image on my head. You know what I, so I'll go back to. Yeah. So I've got, I got issues. I can, I can admit this.

Okay. No way. She said, no way. So, I don't believe it. This happened once before, years ago, when my, my daughter was, my, my, my, my, oldest was used to watch the lion guard yeah oh so she'd watch the lion guard do you know what I would watch after seeing all the lions and the and the and the zebra's all walking I would watch zebras get eaten by crocodiles afterwards that's that's that's that's a nature's shit yeah that's not

the nature's but I would watch but then the other day I was like oh you know what I haven't watched a zebra get eaten in a long time so the other day I turn on YouTube and my wife works it walks and she's what are you watching I go on nature stuff In full mow going, I'm just here to watch the zebras getting eaten. And because they're so stupid, the zebras. Yeah, they are. They're vicious too. The zebras?

The men eat their young. Well, they're idiots because they're trotting through the water. And I got to tell you, I do too. And I just went to the San Diego Zoo. And it was a blast. The best. It was great. And I think zebras are beautiful creatures, but they're dumb as shit.

And like when it's trying to cross. They are. I'm with you. This one that I watched, I thought I'd say, seen one before where this and people people are probably going to now YouTube this and they're going to be like oh what is wrong with you there's the one that I watched in the past was this zebra who's trying to get away and an alligator or a crocodile gets them or whatever gator gets him yeah whatever and it and it's fighting its way out and it looks like it's going to get out and he's

like I got out I got out but he didn't get out his intestines fall out on the floor and he just goes and they go up and they eat them. And he's like, he like, it's like, oh, because the woman table is like, oh, he made it out. It's like toast, toast. Like all that fight for nothing. And I thought that one was bad. Yeah. That's another thing Disney Plus has.

All of these. Not geo. This is, this was YouTube because these are like the extreme ones. Oh, yeah. Because I was like, I haven't seen this kind of footage. You're not going to see that on Disney. And then, and then this one that I saw, I'm like, I thought that one, the one I told you. Yeah.

This one, it's like, it was a younger zebra. not a baby, but a younger zebra, as walking through, and it's like a field day for the gators. Like, because the zebras, they had to cross. Oh,

yeah. So here come the gators. It's like, it's like me at a bar going to like McDonald's at two in the morning. Oh, yeah, or a taco belt. Just come on,

what else you got? And so the gator goes for the one, and the one's like, oh, okay, I can get out of this. And it grabs its leg, and then four more flank it from the side. Kate, it eats its face.

Its face is hanging off and it's still alive. Yikes. And it's got half a face. The will to survive. And I'm like, should I turn it off? And I can't. I got to see if it makes it out with half a face. And of course it doesn't.

It drowns and dies. But I'm like, maybe you can make it with a half of face. And it's like, and it does not make it. And it's brutal. And then what do I do after that? I turn it off and put on. something else? No. I put on the top 10 craziest gator attacks. And now there's lions getting out of the way. The lions made it out. A gator caught a cheetah, like a monkeys.

Gators trying to get a lion. Come on, Gator. Get real. Let's go water, though. So I'm telling you, I'm obsessed because the lion was eating a hippo. There was a hippo that had died. And the lions were Oh, yeah, because the hippos are, I think, the fiercest. Yeah, they're pretty, well, there was, there was one where the zebra's the zebra was getting bitched by a bunch of hippos too yeah yeah hippos will fuck you are you can go down a rabbit hole with these things yeah but like so the hippo was was dead and the two lions are in the water eating it and then a gator snaps at it and the lion's like what the fuck dude I'm trying to eat yeah and then but he comes back and this time the lion jumps on the hippo and he's like no and it gets it gets the hell out of there and

he escaped the lion the lion is it's going to be I've seen lions try to attack elephants yeah lions are cocky i'm telling you man yeah i like no fear you can go down that's but anyway no it is fascinating yeah christian i have the same taste in things i swear to god your like your um i'm giving all of these uh animals like pathologies you're like oh yeah no lions are fucking cocky no zebras let me tell you i know about them zebra that's straight up my new thing is whales unbelievable hunters yeah yeah it's true i saw a video last night. This guy, it was TikTok, and I'm pretty sure it was fake, but it was scary as hell.

So this guy, he's, he's paddling and he goes, was that a shark? Why is it following me? And it's got the robot voice. Why is there shark following me? And then he pops off and he goes, oh, it's a dolphin. And he goes under the water and zooming forward, like this great white shark going right out of it. I think it's fake. I'm pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure it's fake, but it's, but it's terrifying. It was terrifying. But also, do sharks want to eat you if they don't smell the blood? Yes. They'll try it. Everything's a prey for a shark. I love how Steph is like to do Steve Irwin. It is my, it will be so.

And you're vegan. This is wine. I'm not full. No, I'm not vegan. I eat mostly veganers, pescatarian. But all in London I ate meat. Because it was just too difficult to, it's not the same.

And I wanted to really like eat what everybody was eating in every city. When in Rome? Yeah. No, but I would love to do anything. new animal show, but like maybe like high animal show. Like, whoa. You see that lie? Yeah.

My, but did you, it's like, and then I still cannot go to the zoo and not laugh when a honey badger shows up. Oh, yeah. Remember that video? Fuck. Oh, it's the best. Of course. My wife and I were like laughing our ass up.

My, my kids are like, what do you guys laughing at? It was a classic. It was a classic. Look at that little dog. Yeah. That's why I can't help it laugh when a little naked baby shows up dancing. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh. Speaking of which, how dated and bad is Saturday Night Live? Did you see the Saturday? I haven't watched it. So Saturday Night Live last week, I think. And who iso? Isso, is that the, Lizzo. Lizzo.

Lizzo, yeah. So I think she's a very good singer. Yeah. Good performer. Not a great actress. Oh, oh, oh. And the sketches. No, no.

Oh, they had the musical guest as the host. Yes. And so Sadie and I were like, you know what it felt like it felt like watching an open mic mic comic. Oh. Like, it's just like trying out or, you know, or like, or like, or like, or like a room five or like room five, you know, where we used to go and like, oh, someone who's just starting out. And I'm not saying anything. She was, she's not what she does.

She's a singer. She's an entertainer. Like Ellis, watching Alice. She was a hundred percent. But she wasn't the one. She was trying her. It wasn't like she was trying and not. It just, it just, it just wasn't.

Like, that's the, that's the writing and directing too. Right. But some of. They do this thing where, and maybe it's just an old bit that they kept doing. But they, remember the six parks. old man with they did that character.

Like this is my grandfather. And he comes out and he's like No one remembers that. It's like what What are we doing? Like we might as well bring in Hans Hans and Franz.

What are you doing? Yeah, I got to watch that. It was bad. Anyway, back to Northman. So to answer your question, children. Children's children.

Yeah. Yes. This is one, Yes. It's hard, but in a way, but not, not like in a way,

I don't know, it's, it's hard to, yes, there is, but it's, but it's, but it's,

but it's, but I'm trying to, I can't, what I can't, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know,

but it's not, it's way more, many more graphic on the news is what I'll say. Also, Manchester by the sea. Oh, brutal. Is it dark that way?

So, He didn't say no, no, no, no. I mean, not in that, not in that way. Emotionally, that movie, Manchester by the sea is so, like, not in that way. Also, by the way, we can all just say, if that happened to us, if we were, if we were Casey Afflex's character, we kill ourselves. It's, it's very hard, it's very hard to, to see how you, I mean, it was, how you keep going, you don't, you don't get up in the morning. It was that, that movie. Do you ever see that movie?

No. Oh, brutal. Great movie. His child died. He's responsible for it. Oh. Yeah. Four?

Yeah. Three of them. Right in the house down. On AXA? With all of them in. Only the wife got out. On AXA? Yeah, because he was drunk out of his mind and he didn't put the fire great out.

He walked down the street. Yeah, he went down to the packing. Yeah, you kill your son. But it was, it was, anyway. I was like, how is this movie happening? This guy would have absolutely offered himself. But this movie, though, so the movie what it's about, it's essentially, it's Macbeth. But it's actually inspired.

by the story that inspired McPath. Okay. And it's, it's, or Lion King for the people, you know, it's the, the young, the young king whose, whose dad is murdered by his uncle. And then he's got to, goes out and he's got to come back and get his revenge. Yeah. And this is the one with the scar, oh, that's what it's called. Yeah, Alexandria Scarger.

Oh, hell yeah, I'm watching this movie. And I'll tell you, Nicole Kidman is in everything. Yeah. And she's in this. So when she shows up, I'm like, what, my wife and I, just had the conversation like what is she not in? Yeah, she's killing it. But she's in everything and it's like, is it overkill?

She's great in this movie. She is because I got to tell you the last couple of things I've seen her. And I think in the fact that her face looks a little scary for me. Like I wish that she had expressions. Are you going off the Lucy one though? I'm not going off the Lucy one. I didn't like that movie. Oh, that movie, that shows was so good.

The show was good, but she was not. My girl Lily was fantastic. Undoing the ending was terrible though. I love that. That's all you. I love Q Grant, right? Yes. But she also is like, she's like supposed to be a New Yorker.

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I was Googling them. You were Googling Athletic Greens? Is that true? Yes. Let me see. Show me your Google search. You the fucking liar. She said.

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She just watched seven alligator attacks while I was doing that, that, that ad. I was literally like, is there an alligator? Can the zebra do athletic greens to get away from the alligator? They need it. Can I ask you an honest to got truth? Does your poop get funny? No, from athletic greens? No.

No, I'm telling you, Kate, this is, it's, I. My poop already is funny. Well, maybe it'll get, I don't know, maybe it'll make it funnier. Maybe it'll make it funnier. Yeah, so it was either way. Jokes every day. Now, I do want to talk about. something that I'm not really, normally don't,

No, it's not your poop. No, it's not your poop. I'm not, I'm not normally someone who likes to talk about these types of things, but I think it needs to be talked about. Oh, yeah. Ezra Miller, um, got arrested again. And so he was, where the hell was? Where is it? He's in Hawaii. Again. Again. So he, and he got arrested like three weeks ago. He's, there was that thing that happened to him where he, they didn't really even necessarily explained what happened when he, uh, he, he tackled that fan that one time. And nobody really said what that was all about. There was no, there was nothing about that. And then less than four

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Dumbledore in cinemas where Miller was in a key role and has been hit by controversies involving several key talent and key talent involved in that franchise. There's been, more controversy? What was more? I think it was just that Johnny Depp got removed from the franchise, right? No, I think that there was more. Oh, there's something else come out? Let's have to look that up too. God.

Yeah. They removed the main actress, girl, because she disagreed with JK. Yes, yes, yes. That, that, okay, so if that was the, I thought it meant with him in general. That, that I knew about. Miller also led the studios, the Flash Film Project, which has already been filmed and is slated to premiere in cinemas in June. For now, there's been no plan changes to the scheduling of that film.

Okay. So, like I said, I'm not normally, I don't, love to talk about these stories. I like to go more so into the actual films themselves and things of that. But I, this is something that just, it's disturbing to me, um, because I, what you see on Twitter is that everybody just kind of pounces on, I'll start by saying the behavior is terrible. Everything that, that has happened over the, getting arrested three weeks ago, getting arrested now. It's terrible. Um, but there's clearly something going on with this guy. mentally.

He is not well. Now, whether it is something that is happening with him on as far as emotionally or mentally or whatever it is, the kid needs help. Yeah. He should not be running around in Hawaii just loose. His loved ones, the people who are working with him, they should, it's easier said than done. But it is easy to crucify someone on their actions right away.

and saying, you know, how horrible a person they are and this and this and that. And a woman was injured from his actions. Get him off the street. Yeah. He needs to talk to someone. Yeah. I don't know what's going on with him. I don't know what's happening with the kid.

I just feel that he's clearly in a place of peril at the moment. Can we send Denzel Washington in, honestly? At this point. Yeah. But that's the type of thing that I think that this is. is a conversation that's like his loved ones need to be around him and have conversations with them and I think that it's just when I'm looking at the internet and it's just like where as people have we lost our empathy like and I'm not talking about the empathy of saying oh that's okay

he should be able to do it no what he did was was wrong horrible and he should be and he should pay for and he should be you know and he should he should lose jobs there's no room for nuance and thought like two truths can be true he what he did was fucked up and what he's been doing his fucked up. He also is seemingly fucked up and we should care about that. It's like the way the prison system doesn't work in a lot of ways because we're not rehabilitating

behaviors. We're just punishing and the internet acts as a form of punishment without any rehabilitation and that's not useful to anyone and I think in a way to make him continue working and ride the wave of his initial popularity

with the flash and the original fantastic beast. They've made it so he can't do any press because his bad press won't stop. And it's like, I think it would just be better. He's still young. He's an excellent actor or they're still young

to just take a break. Nez help. Yeah. And look at Shia Leboeuf. I was just about to say him. Yeah. Shia LeBoof is somebody I think that is, and I go off of where, and I think that everybody's guilty of it.

You make judgments of people that you don't know. Yes. And you don't know at all. And you say, like, not knowing what Shia Leboof went through. I used to hate Shai Leboeuf and his actions. Same. And then something changed.

And I think it's actually after, it's funny enough. It was after, no, it was before Honeyboy. It was that when that video of just do it. When that came out, for some reason I thought it was one of the funniest videos ever and I loved it.

I loved his enthusiasm. But I listened to him more and learned more about his story. And I started out of more compassion and empathy towards him. And also acknowledging a lot of really bad shit that he did in his past. and still has done. Yeah. But I still like, like there's things that I still want to say because like my brother, my brother had passed away, went through some, a lot of shit, went through a lot of shit.

And like, and I feel like I wouldn't just, oh yeah, fucked up. Like I do think that Ezra Miller should probably not be working right now. Yeah. And not just for the punishment side, although that's part of it. You can't act like that and then just get, you know, privileges and get to do what you want to do. No, you can. You've got to answer for your actions. And I think that it's also as a business on the business side of things. If you're on Warner Brothers and you're saying, here's this kid and he's, and this is, we had this movie on him and everything too. It's like,

yeah, but it seems to be continuously happening. We got, for business wise. We got to cut ties. And that's business. And people don't understand that. And it's, and I've had to gone through that in my life. People have gone through it. And it's like, people don't understand it. They You should have done this, you shouldn't do that. You don't know on the business side of things. That's business. Now, on a human side of it, I do think that if you care about your star and you care about what it is, find out what's going on with this motherfucker.

Yeah, get that kid. Find out what's going on with him and help him out because he shouldn't be working on the flash. He shouldn't be working on these other movies. And he shouldn't be running around in Hawaii anymore after three weeks after he gets into one thing, gets arrested again. He's in serious trouble right now. I suspect there's substances involved. I bet you're right.

I mean, I'm not trying to demonize substances because we know I use them all. But I'm just saying like I feel like. No, no, definitely. Like I have family members who are addicts. I've been with addicts. It's in line with addictive behavior for sure. Usually when you don't have answers to someone's erratic behavior and there's violence involved or even when he's done videos where it's like, what the fuck are you even saying?

Right. That it's something is off chemically. Something's off right now. And I just, I just, I really hope that he gets to, He's a very talented, very talented actor, and I really hope that the last thing you want to do is here that he did something else and he wants to be getting himself hurt killed.

Also, that's, you would know this. Second degree assault, just because of your parents being in law enforcement, but like second degree assault means he wasn't intending to, he wasn't purpose. Yeah, there was no motive. No, he threw it, he probably had a fit of anger, premeditation, hit her in the head.

What I'm saying is right now at second degree, but then it's going to be first degree. 100%. He just can't control himself right now. And I think that, like, again, making it very clear that you pay for your actions. Yeah. That's a given. You got to pay for your actions.

Yep. Yeah. But it doesn't mean that you just write people off. Like, loved ones should care. Loved ones should step in. People who work with them should step in and don't just write the guy off. See what the hell's going on. No, yeah.

I always say that, especially like having. been with an addict. Like if you are, there's a difference between fans and friends and blood or family. Like you can't, I've, from speaking from experience from family members, you,

it sucks and it sucks to be love someone who's an addict. You can't let go of them though. You have no idea what's going to, you can't let go. It's true. All right. So once again, if you haven't already,

please subscribe to the channel. Hit the notification button and hit the like. All right. So the last story of the day, before we get the hell out of here, ladies and gentlemen. Is it the way I smell? I don't smell anything. You reek. Oh, my God. I'm telling you, when you get laser, you can't put deodorant on for 24 hours.

I don't think I follow that rule. Well, it doesn't matter. Ben and Matt are doing something again to get it. I really should. Do you want to hear about this? Yes. Uh-huh. They're re-teaming for a Nike movie.

What does that mean? What does that mean? Is it the, I'd be very interested if it's a Phil something something story? I wonder if how, let's see, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon are set to reteam for a drama featuring, excuse me, a drama feature revolving around iconic sportswear giant Nike that has been set up at Amazon Studio, Skydance Sports, and Mandalay Pictures. Both will star and Athletic will direct. Oh, that's cool.

Excuse me, which is currently untitled and is set in the mid-80s and Damon will, stop this, stop this, stop this. Damon will play Sonny Vaccaro, a maverick sneaker salesman who led a fledgling run. running shoe company called Nike in a long shot effort to sign on the most transformative athletes in the history of sports to endorse their product, Michael Jordan. Athlete's going to portray Nike co-founder Phil Knight. In the story, which follows how the endorsement seemingly impossible at the time would become the most significant significant. I can't even say it.

Significant. Thank you. Relationship between an athletic brand and an athlete and launched a global multi-billion dollar contemporary sneaker industry. Jordan himself is a mythic figure hovering above the movie and never seen. Oh, bummer, I was wondering. But that's all right, though. In the film, Sunny tries to reach him by gaining access to those close around him.

Alex Convary wrote the original script, which is the original Air Jordan, and made the 2021 Blacklist on Best Unproduced Screen, Please. Afflick and Damon are doing a new pass on the script and will produce. This is pretty great. This is great. This is great. This could be their David Fincher Facebook movie. This could be the social network.

I do wish Michael B. Jordan was playing Michael Jordan. I'm just going to. I'm just too small. You know what? Bulk them up. No, no, no, no, no. Also, like, not the same skin tone, like, just so off. He's just too small.

Same name. You guys are missing the point. Missing the point, though. But I love this, this idea that having them re-team, but having, speaking to some, look, bouncing off that story, we're just talking about Ezra Miller. Look at Ben Affleck. Yeah. Ben Affleck was in, has been in many different times in his life, has been in peril.

Yes. And has people rallied around him and kind of, and kind of, and, come out of it and his head has been very public about his abuse and stuff. Robert Downey Jr. Of course. But Affleck has been, Downey went through it for a long time. And then Susan Downey kind of got him out. He kind of got out, but Susan Downey kind of brought him around.

He's been, so as we know, has been clean for at least 20, almost 20 years. Yeah. Awesome. Affleck's been fighting back and forth. And then recently, I think within the last two or three years, two years, really. Remember, when he went, that last movie he did that he directed, he was in the height of Underbar? No, no, he didn't, that was Clooney. Oh, Clooney directed that one.

He was, he was, he's cleaned up at that point. The last one he directed, which I can't remember the name. Way out? Way back, I mean? Is that, was that, was that, was that, was called? The basketball movie? No, no, he didn't direct that one. He was in, so the one, here, I'll bring it up.

The one that he directed, he directed, he directed, Godwill Hunt. He directed Gone Baby Gone, which is his first one, which is fantastic. Okay. Then he directed the town, which is fantastic. Yeah, fantastic. Then he directed Argo, which one best. Yeah, fantastic. I can't remember the name

he was screaming at me right now. He's like more talented than I give him credit for it because he's annoying. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's annoying. Let's see. I didn't. After he got picked as Batman,

I was like, fuck this. Zebras. Zebras? Stupid. Elephants. Well, let me tell you. Fuck you up. I'm going to tell you the movie.

It's driving me nuts. She knows at all. The name of the movie was called. What the hell year was it? It was like 2000. It must have been. I was. going to say it's your left eye live by night live by night oh i never even heard it's not a good movie

it's not a good movie and and he was going through his his stuff at the time like he really was and i think and then now he looks to be cleaned up doing stuff well and i'm very excited to hear that he's directing this especially working with his body and they're writing it so to reteam and do this this is this seems pretty uh pretty exciting you guys down totally i also like i've been to eugene organ which is like the headquarters of night yeah um It's a special play. Like the Oregon Ducks play there. It's like everything.

It's Nike, everything. It is wild to think of a time before Nike. Although I did love the Jared Leto pre-Fontaine movie. Wasn't I called pre-or pre-fant? Remember that? Oh, no. A billion years ago. And it's about him.

It's about that. Did he have a prosthetic in that too? No. He did not. He did have a very bad Italian accent. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. No, but he, it was about like Nike becoming a thing.

It was like he was the first running sneaker, was pre-fontaine sneaker. Interesting. Yeah. Well, I love that sort of. I love origin stories. Well, this was a good origin story because we did a lot of stuff here today. We talked about a lot.

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