The Kristian Harloff Show - WHAT IS HAPPENING? The Marvels budget was actually 378 Million?! Who decided this was ok?
Episode Date: October 3, 2024Budgets have been a HUGE topic. Not only on this show but people are starting to notice the overspending and waste on a lot of movies. We just got a report that the Aco;yte actually cost 230M instead ...of the 180 that was initially reported. Now The Marvels which was rumored at 280M is not actually reported at 378M? What is happening with the decision making with these films? How is this allowed? Speaking of big budgets, The Joker 2 had a MUCH bigger budget than the first and now the second one although first predicted to have a massive opening is now dwindling because of poor reviews. Can it be saved? This and more on today's show with Kristian, Mike and Steph! #dc #dcu #joker2 #themarvels #disney #mcu #marvel #budgets OUR SPONSORS BILT: http://www.joinbilt.com/BIGTHING LIQUIDIV: GET 20 PERCENT OFF http://www.LiquidIV.com CODE: BIGTHING
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What the hell's going on with these budgets, man?
The other day we found out the Acolytes really $230 million,
not the 180 that we thought the catastrophe was.
And now the Marvels comes in,
and we thought that was a 280 overspend.
And it turns out it was over $370 million to make that movie.
What the hell is going on over there?
Who's greenlighting this stuff?
Who's okaying this stuff?
Who's not shutting things down the second it gets to $200 on this thing?
So between that and the Joker was a movie that made a billion dollars.
Well, the Joker, Part 2, was scheduled to do pretty damn well,
or it looked like projected rather, to do really, really well.
Well, it doesn't look like that's going to happen anymore
because of all the bad reviews, or mid-reviews, we should say, as the kids say.
So it is a full conversation here with myself, Mike Kalinowski,
Steph Sabraugh on this live edition of the Christian Harlov show.
Let's do it.
Here we go.
Welcome back.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is the Christian Harlov show.
It is the live edition.
And I am joined today on this special Thursday episode
because yesterday I was out seeing Joker Folly Adieu.
So my two wonderful co-hosts, both Steph Sabraa,
Mike Kalanowski, were able to join me here today on the show.
And guys, well, let me, before we start it,
as we take our question,
You guys were the champs last week, taken down Roka.
Well, you got a big, big hill to climb this week because Roka did it again,
but this time he said it and he broke the record at 131.
What?
Yeah, he did one.
What did?
What did we have like last week with the 87?
83rd or something, which is a big number.
131.
131.
That's solid.
I don't know if you can beat him this time.
But I think he's on the outlaw nation hyping it up.
I don't think.
Yeah.
He goes, hey, go on the other show.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But he's got four.
He's got, you guys got four so far to start.
here today. But we have a lot to talk about because there's a lot of stories that were happening
yesterday that I wanted to discuss on the show, but I was out seeing Joe Kofali at Do, so I couldn't
do it. So instead, we're going to cover some of this stuff today. And one of these stories,
guys, is this budget disaster that's happening in Hollywood overall. And the numbers, did you guys see
the thing about the Acolyte the other day that came out about how it is actually...
Went up to 230? 230 is what they actually... We, the three of us were,
saying how in the world could this show cost 180?
Well, how in the world does it cost another 50?
What's happening?
What's happening?
I'm not, I feel like I'm not working inside enough to know how this could happen, but what do you think is actually happening?
It's just a misuse or it's an overuse?
Well, it's not, it hasn't stopped stuff because it's a Disney thing because it's not just Star Wars because here is the story that I was going to cover yesterday, but.
I figured we had to talk about this today.
And the Marvels, which I was not a fan of.
I don't know how you guys felt about the movie.
I can't remember, but I don't think Mike was a fan.
I can't remember if Steph was a fan, but we'll find.
I liked it.
Okay.
Well, you liked a movie that costs way too much money.
Because at last report, back in May this year, Marvel Studios, the Marvels, was dubbed
the big box of office bomb of 2023.
The film reportedly had a net loss of $237 million for Disney, according to deadline.
They indicated at the time that Disney reportedly spent 270 million making the film and then a further 110 million marketing it,
21 million in residuals distribution expenses and 54 million in interest in overhead, which is a total cost of 455 million.
That was back then.
Meanwhile, revenue from the box office, rental purchases, and streaming resulted in a total revenue of 218 million,
thus it worked out to a $237 million loss.
Now, though, the number may have to be adjusted as the just-released film tax credit information
filings out of the UK, via World of Reel and Reddit, indicate that the film cost more.
In fact, they state that the project's cost came in at a total of $378.5 million at the end of September,
a number that drops to $325 after film tax credits are paid out.
That's notably higher than a $270 reported prior to production budget featured from May's report
and pegs at the net loss to Disney closer tens of millions higher.
If accurately calculated, that would push the marvels past the inflated adjusted numbers
for both the Lone Ranger and John Carter to become the costliest film flop of all time.
Wow.
Yes, that is an accurate face.
Keep it, Mike.
Keep it.
Because keep it stuff.
Because that is atroche.
a trush
gavage
but he's just like I is it's got to be a money laundering scheme
that's what people are saying that's what people are saying
they're laundering money that's what it is
I'm sorry but how do you but even if it's a money laundering
screen how do you you know if you you got to figure that
somebody's going to report it and then it's going to get
you know it's going to get out it but I mean
that's what you think
for real he's got a Walter White bald cap on
yeah but Steph
I mean, look, this is the thing.
This has nothing to do is the same way this had nothing to do with the accolet.
We've talked until we're blue in the face about what we thought about the actual product of the accolite.
And this is the same thing we talked about what we're blue in the face about what we think about the marvels, whether Mike and I aren't fans or whether you are irrelevant at this point.
Right.
How in the world does a movie get greenlit?
And then when they keep looking at it and going, oh, we need another 10.
We need another 15.
It's 370 just to make the freaking thing.
that that's people should be fired right yeah because i know a lot of people working on these
projects and they're basically making minimum wage right there's like the thing this isn't adding up
it's not adding up correctly yeah it's uh it feels like a very serious misuse today just in this
it's so different but like when you think about like politics and giving our money to people
that you want to like know where the money's going or else it doesn't really someone has to be on the ground being like okay where is the money going what are we doing here 100% it's it's yeah good well because also the problem is it's it's not working and it hasn't been working for a long time so even though i like the marvels it doesn't mean that i think that like i the money that they spent is insane so it feels like there needs to
be a better solution here as to like how they because it feels like a big action movie still shouldn't
cost that much that much you know look when end game cost the 300 or whatever it did at that point
you go okay well look it it earned it in infinity war and endgame you earned it because you know you're
going to make that back and it's it's at least cast alone right it's at least worth the risk
It's worth the risk.
This is in the same way that the accolite and the same way that Indiana Jones was irresponsible.
Like it's irresponsible and bad, bad business.
You know what like you guys are both not wrestling fans.
But I was thinking of the other day.
I was thinking of Paul Heyman, who is one of the greatest wrestling minds of all time.
Paul Heyman is able to just see things into the future that other people just can't do.
And there's people in all types of business that have that ability, that they're able to say, this is something that I think can work.
You put this there.
You do that.
You do that.
They clearly don't have that type of person at this company.
Because in the same way that you look, you go, in what world do you spend $180 million on the marvels?
I mean, I understand that you could probably make the argument.
Well, the first one made a billion dollars.
So I understand the argument, right?
But dude, you have to guarantee, after the pandemic and everything else, you're not, it's very hard to hit that billion dollars.
Right.
And you've got to, on $370 million, you've got to hit a billion to break even.
It is just stupid.
I really just had a straight curiosity.
I want to see a rundown of a line sheet of what each charges.
Because I don't understand how you get.
get there how like what in the how Mike what are your thoughts on on all this because I
know you got a lot of them I'm flabbergasted that's my thing flabbergasted yeah it makes
no sense it makes no sense like again like you'd said I'm like you said about the whole
yeah okay the first one made a billion so let's plug some money into this thing but
in the in the time since that there's not really this clamoring to see captain
Marvel again like sure people like the Marvel's TV show but not enough to make not enough
for 370 it is it is I don't like you guys you guys
Secret Wars. All right. You're dining back, this and that. Yeah, you show that out for that movie.
Not 370, but not even 370. I know. But I'm just saying like, and now thinking about this, can you imagine, I'm trying to picture now what the budget for this cat movie's going to be. Because they reshot the whole damn movie.
Which cat? Oh, the cat. Well, that's, but here, but there's a difference, though, with that. Okay, there's a difference. And I bet you that when we get the total number for cap, I bet you the total number is something in the 400s. I bet you. Because they shot two movies. Because they shot two movies. But I, but I, I think.
think that there's a difference there and I'll tell you what the difference is.
If you're looking at a movie and you have the money in your bank account to say, look, guys,
we just spent almost $180, $200 million on this movie.
It's not good.
We are going to lose money again in the way we lost money on the Marvels and the way that we lost this.
Do we just do a brand new movie, rewrite the whole freaking thing, take the loss and hope we make it
up with the Thunderbolts, hope we make it up a fantastic four, hope we make it up with
you know, all the other movies and stuff that we're coming out.
It's, if you have that kind of money and you make the decision, I get it.
They didn't do that with the Marvels.
They just said, this is it.
This is what we got.
Let's do a singing planet.
That'll make billions of dollars.
But I also see, you know, you see someone in the comments too going, go, well, go broke, got
nothing to do with it.
Because even if this movie made, had a great weekend in 200 million, $300 million opening weekend,
it's still a loss.
Even if all the people who decided that is, you know, it's a great movie, it still is out of loss.
This has nothing to do.
This is a great movie.
If Top Gun, Maverick was 370, has nothing to do in that movie.
No one is accusing that of, you know, being woke or whatever the fuck.
It's through, it's, it's, that's, that's, that's, that is a crime.
No movie should cost 370.
No movie.
No movie.
Like that stupid Fast and Furious movie did it.
And it made $800 million and it lost money.
It is a crime.
stop it yeah that's so much that's so much and for it to not be if it's not for people
it's for things that they're missed they're not doing right in the movies or they're doing
too much of or i don't even i i yeah i just really want to see what they're actually charging
because i feel like on so many of these things it has to be like a hundred thousand dollars
on lift rides from set to set.
Yeah, but it's probably insane.
But you're not wrong.
But you're not wrong.
Like the flights that are coming in, the first class stuff.
And this is first class flights.
Yes, this is where agents play a big, big part of blowing up the budgets for these things.
Because they go, well, so-and-so, God, I think my client should have this.
And then that spikes up.
I've dealt with it at Shmowdown.
I'm going like, well, hey, if so-and-so has this, I want to be able to have this too at my hotel and this and I'm like,
oh my god and next thing i know i'm like and we wonder why we don't have a show anymore and it's like
so it's like that's the stuff that happens that stuff happens all of the time and that wasn't a small
little production this thing it's like oh yeah they have it because you know the conversation
it's disney it's marvel they have it they can afford it and then they probably say well we can afford it
and it's like look at the budgets because they probably think in the same way that i just described
captain america or they're like well you know we can always make it up on the next one they're not
they're not in the glory years right now they don't have that luxury and it was a i i i can
I can't believe that they did it.
In the gravy years.
No.
And jump back to the accolade because the accolade is a TV show.
And that cost only, I'm going to say only, 140 less than that movie, which was a theatrical release that was trying to make money.
This is a movie that, this is a show that was on television, where that money went.
But who knows?
Leslie Helen's going to be on vacations for the rest of her life.
Oh, my gosh.
It's like what?
It's interesting, too, because with the marvels, I don't remember, remember hearing, like, cost.
the reshoots or problems during that role.
Yeah, I didn't.
I don't remember that either.
No, and even if there were reshoots, I mean, how much are the reshoots?
$150 million for reshoots?
That's another movie.
I don't know, man.
That's another movie.
It's insane.
It's insane.
I don't know what they were doing.
And this kind of plays into our next story because they're not the only ones.
Every movie, when they do well, we'll get a boost in budget, right?
And especially you make a billion dollars, you're going to get a boost in budget,
and that's fair.
I don't know to justify.
370. And someone said was shot during COVID. Again, fine. Let's give you, let's give you
$40 million for COVID, which is a lot of money in general. That's still, where does the other
330 go? You know, so as COVID, COVID shooting, or even if it's $100 million, that's still
$230 million, $270 million. Where does that money go? So there's no, like, is inflation that bad?
No.
Is inflation? I know it's bad, but is it that bad where I'm just misunderstanding how you could use this much money?
Yeah, but there's no.
As you guys know, I'm working on, I'm working on money right now mentally understanding money better and budgeting.
And the big word that Harry always uses is compounding figures.
So when you don't realize that you're spending on one thing, you're like, oh, it's only a dollar.
But then you do a year of it.
and it's $365.
I have to...
I have to address this
because I've seen this before.
There's somebody in the comments that
I don't understand why people care
what a multi-billion-dollar corporation spends a movie.
That has nothing to do with it
about what...
That is nothing to do with it.
Because they said it has absolutely zero impact
in my opinion in the film.
Yes, it does.
Because they have all this money
that they're putting into things.
And if it's not on...
First of all, if you have a movie,
if there's a movie that you spend all this money
on, that's a great movie.
And they spent...
I mean, look at Transformers one, right?
which is a really great movie,
and this isn't necessarily a ballooned budget,
but let's say that the budget was $70 or $80 million
that they lost money on, right?
And because you didn't see it,
if you make it for $20 million,
if you make this movie for $20,
and the way that, like, Blumhouse makes these movies.
Blumhouse makes movies for, like, $5 million.
So if they only make $20 million, right?
Then there can be new movies,
there can be more inside of that universe,
and you as a viewer, if you like it,
it impacts you because you get to see more of it.
If there's a great movie that is made, a great movie, and it costs $300 million to make, and nobody saw it.
And you're like, I love this movie.
I want to see more of it.
Well, nobody saw it because they needed so many different people to see this movie, and they overblown it,
and then they start spending on other things and reshooting things and getting too much involvement.
And when you have that much access to money, you start diluting the quality of the movie, believe it or not,
because you have so many trinkets and toys and you get lazy and you do all these things.
It impacts your viewer experience more than you know.
It has nothing to do with whether or not I care what the accountants are doing and whether or not they're spending the right way.
And I'm talking about you hurt the quality of it when you're overspending.
Now, sometimes it works.
Sometimes you need a certain amount of budgets because if they cut back on certain things, but it is very important because they are overblowing budgets and they're hurting the overall experience for people.
They also, the other reason why it impacts you is because it drives up the prices of movie theaters.
Because when they're spending that much money, how do you think they have with the theaters, the things?
The theaters are jacking up their prices now and jacking up the prices on the concessions and everything else.
So you can cover their budget.
So it impacts you very much so.
It has nothing to do whether or not the audiences, whether you're going,
well, what do I care of a billion dollar company?
You should care because it is impacting you more than you know.
Am I wrong about this?
No, no.
And I would say that I also care, as I mentioned before, is we just had a writer strike.
The industry is, it's, it, that doesn't make sense.
If you were spending that much money and everybody was making a lot of money and having like great health care and coverage and weren't totally pressed on sets to get things done because of said budget, then, you know, there'd be a little more leeway.
But the whole thing feels like a not thoughtful practice that only benefits a few.
and most of us, including the audience, it doesn't benefit.
Right.
I mean, and the same comments just said,
well, there are a lot of smaller films that are finding success.
Yeah, of course.
That's the point.
There are smaller films that are finding it,
and they're spending the right way,
because imagine those smaller films were like,
oh, this is a great premise.
You know what?
Instead of making this movie for $10 million and making $30 and making a profit,
I'm going to give you $60 now.
I'm going to give you $60, and it makes that same $30,
now it's a loss.
and now you don't get anything else
and they probably overspent it because they had the money.
I think when creators are challenged to make budgets work
and they're not comfortable,
that's when they're the best.
I think it's a testament to,
I mean,
I haven't seen it and I don't know,
but Joker 2.
Yeah,
we're going to talk about that.
That had a smaller budget, man.
And they were creatively,
you know,
they didn't know what they were doing.
You're saying Joker 1 had a smaller budget.
Yeah,
and it was creative unknown territory.
We're taking a character.
We're not going to have Batman.
and this, this, and this, and it went to do what it did.
But then they were like, here's the trucks.
Double your, triple your budget, go.
And then apparently everything everyone's saying, it's nowhere near as good as the first.
Well, I'm glad you brought up the Joker, because the Joker is another one where it's not just Disney that's doing this.
It's like, once you find success, you do, as Mike was just saying, you take this money.
And you go, well, we made it, we mean, I think that, I think that First Joker made a billion.
I'm pretty sure it did.
Or close to it at least.
And you say, wait a minute.
this is going to be a success.
So let's do a sequel and let's overspend on it.
Because I saw Todd Phillips saying to say,
what do people care how much money we're spending on it?
Because it impacts us.
It impacts us of what you're overspending on.
That's what it.
People don't understand that, again, to me,
no offense to that person.
It's the silliest argument.
It's just the silliest argument.
It impacts you.
Here's the thing, like you said,
people probably that love the Marvels?
Guess what?
You didn't get Marbles 3.
Right.
You're never seeing those characters again in a movie together.
No, no, because, you,
How do you justify that when you spend that much money?
Like if that movie, they would have made a smaller,
a smaller budgeted movie,
and you really enjoyed that movie in the same way.
Look, look, little people who love the acolyte.
If the accolade cost, and another example inside of all this is Agatha.
Okay?
So Agatha is not, I thought Agatha last week from when I saw when he released the numbers,
I thought Agatha was doing really well.
But it's not, because if you look at the globally,
it's not doing that great globally.
However, the difference is, it's supposedly,
I don't have a final number on it,
but it's one of the lowest budgets for a Marvel show so far.
And in what we've talked about many times on this show,
they are targeting a specific audience.
They are landing with that audience, very much so.
And people who happen to be watching along are also enjoying it,
but some people are finding it boring
and not being a part of it or just didn't think it was for them
and not watching it.
But it's enough for them to say, well, look, we hit the audience we wanted to hit.
Ackleite was going after an audience and didn't hit anybody.
They hit some people.
But for the most part, it didn't hit who they needed to hit.
This show is targeting a certain audience, hitting that audience, and bringing other people on, and it didn't cost that much.
Now, the Joker is going to be very interesting.
Joker Part 2 can be very interesting because listen to this story overall.
The Joker sequel, the box office projections have now shrunk.
Just before its premiere at the Venice Film Festival in late August,
projections for the domestic opening weekend box office of Joker Folly Adieu were on track for a particular.
potential $100 million debut.
Some estimates were going as high as $120 to $140 for the Todd Phillips directed film,
and it seemed certain it would outpace the original film's $96 million debut.
Then the $200 million budgeted film was screened.
Mixed reviews emerged from the fest, even as critically aggregate scores are only slightly worse than the original.
Sentiment toward the film seemed to change, though, and by mid-September, the debut weekend
estimates were revised drastically, downward to somewhere of $70 million.
Now, deadline is reporting that just days, just days before the film released in cinema, it is now tracking for a 55 million debut, around half, that of those early projections in 40 million or so less than its predecessor.
That would be a disappointing start for the film domestically, even as internationally it's starting to look good and the worldwide launch for the film is tipped to be as high as 140.
One thing that may or may not impact is that film's ending has leaked online and has led to a divided reaction from those who have read the spoilers.
Joker, Folly Adieu opens in cinemas on Friday with previews commencing the stirs afternoon.
Now this is where I think Warner Brothers might have made a mistake.
What they've been doing recently, Warner Brothers, I had this conversation last night when I was waiting online with the film, I was talking to two other critics.
And what Warner Brothers has been doing, it worked for Beal Juice, and I don't think it's going to work for Joker Folli Adieu.
they have been screening movies for fans before they've been screening it for critics, which is new.
Fans and influencers have been getting screenings before critics have.
The idea and reason behind it, in my opinion, is that when you go on Rotten Tomatoes, what is normally the case?
The critic score is low.
The audience score is high.
So in their mind, they're going, okay, we can get some footage and things out of this,
influencers and fans and fan reactions
and people will be excited
and who cares if critics don't like it
afterwards when it comes out doesn't matter
and again it worked for Beetlejuice
I don't think it's going to work for this one because it looks like the fans
and the critics are on the same page for this one
and I will tell you I saw the movie last night
I'm going to do my non-spoiler pretty soon
I was
digging the first two acts
and I'm saying okay look they can really turn this thing around
and I might be in the minority here
because I might wind up liking this thing
I think the scene became a little excessive
I understood what they were trying to do with it.
I understood.
Sometimes I was like, oh, this works.
It's going on on side of his head,
and there's certain things that are,
that they play in the trailer that you see,
and there's some of that, okay, let's move.
Let's just focus on what's going on.
And then by the third act, it just lost me.
And I hated the ending.
I hated the ending.
I had more time to marinate on it.
I hated the ending.
Absolutely hated it.
I think that the ending was just,
and I will say, the music is fantastic.
The acting performances are well done.
There's certain things that are really well directed.
It totally negates the first movie.
And I love the first movie.
Not everybody's on the same page.
I think the whole first movie was negated from this stupid ending that they came up with.
And it was also the ending of the first movie.
The very ending of the first movie is totally thrown out the window.
So I think it was just Todd Phillips going, I don't ever want to do another one of these.
Let's just do this.
Let's do it this way.
Who cares?
Let's get some studio notes.
The first one, they're going to give me $200 million?
dollars okay I'll do whatever the hell I want to do and here we go and there's some
artistic choices that are made that are creative but I just think it's I think it's a mess
I don't think it knows what it wants to be and I think it's and I think audiences are not
going to like it especially if you like the first movie but I don't know Mike did you
like the first movie and do you think I love the first movie I loved it but it's also
like it's not like a feel good movie I think I've seen it twice like once in
theaters and then I thought you know I saw twice in theaters I didn't ever watch it at home
because it's such a like you don't feel good leaving that movie but it's so good like
yeah this is so I'm excited I'm going to see it tonight so we'll see I mean I would say
lower your expectations because I I was I love I love I love the first one and I think that
I'm telling you I feel and it could be wrong but after you see it I feel like you're
going to be the same as me you're going to be watching it throughout the first couple
I know what it was very talking about I'm on board with this I can see where they're
going with this
And I just think as a, especially as a DC Purist, I feel like you're going to be like, what the hell was that?
See, for that, though, with this movie, I throw that shit out the window.
No, but I know what you're saying.
I can't, it's not DC, it's not Batman.
I know.
It's an else world saying.
I get it.
But still, they did a kind of origin Joker story that was very different in that first movie, but yet you still felt the maniacal Joker.
Yeah.
albeit however he got there he got there i'm telling you when you see the second movie you're
gonna be like well what is that what's that choice oh and i'm gonna do i'm gonna do a spoiler review
because i don't want to give that away but like it's like well wait a minute but wait you said
that in the first movie but you're doing that and then that farts um that'd be interesting all right
we'll see are you going to see this stuff i i hate to say this out loud because i am such
a supporter of the theater, but I don't think it's a good theater movie for me.
Okay. You didn't like the first one, right? No, I liked it. It was just a very intense
theater experience. And I go to the theater to just for like, entertain. Oh, you like to feel
good, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it was so intense. And I had such bad anxiety,
which is such a, such kudos to the movie for making you feel such a way. But I,
didn't like it how I felt but I like the movie I just don't want to see so I think I'll have a better
chance of liking it if I see it at home but now that I'm hearing it's a little lighter in some areas
maybe I'll go lighter I don't know is it not it's I don't know if it's lighter I mean it's certainly it's it's not as like
but it's it's still it still gets there there's still the I don't think lighter is the right word and we're
still dealing with the guy who's got a lot of mental issues and the and you're dealing in
Arkham Asylum for 85% of the movie.
Oh gosh. Okay. Why? Yeah, I'm hearing a lot of what you're saying, which is this overall
kind of I wonder what he was trying to accomplish. Yeah. And it and look, I saw
Roxy's thing too and I think that Roxy is right. It's like, look, they take some big swings
artistically. There's some, the music is wonderful. The performances are definitely. I mean,
Joaquin Phoenix and Gaga are great together when they have the time to shine for sure.
there's some really good moments.
And then there's just times you're like,
wait, where are they going with this?
And then I was watching, and Greg Alba said the same thing.
And I couldn't agree with them more.
He says, it's times you're like, oh, I'm so locked in.
Now I'm frustrated.
Now I'm locked in.
Now I'm frustrated again.
Now I'm locked in and I'm frustrated again.
And by the time, now if they would have been,
if I would have been frustrated and then they just took it home with the ending,
I would have been like, okay, there's some stuff that didn't worry,
but they maneuvered it back.
They took me to that road.
And now, because when I left the first movie, I was like, whoa.
I'm like, wow, that's where they went with that.
I'm like, oh, that's how he got to, that's, that's their, as Mike was saying, that's their version of the Joker.
That's that guy.
This one, I'm like, who the, what's happening?
Oh, gosh.
I'm like, what's happening?
Who's this clown?
Who, there you go.
Nice.
So anyway, it's like, this is another one where I don't know, let's kind of focus on the topic at hand here with the, this is an interesting.
interesting situation because I do remember where it was one projected at 120 to 140 is this one of those things where people are going to start hearing I don't know if I want to see this anymore in the theater because we put a poll up today on the on the channel and it was it was it was pretty telling there were a lot of people who are going to too many people are saying it's not good and this is where I think those fan screenings backfired on them I think the fan screen is backfired on on Warner Brothers this time around but I don't know
Steph, you think this is going to be a huge impact or could this thing actually wind up making some good money opening weekend and surprise people?
I hope it does, but man does, do people really care about the social cues when a movie is dropped and what people are saying about it?
It's hard not to affect you when you hear both critics and the audience kind of feeling the same way if you're not a serious, serious fan.
So I don't think it's going to affect the serious fans that have been like obsessed with Joker because it just got such a cult following.
I think they're definitely going no matter what.
But I do think for people who are like interested, it might be like, oh, maybe we'll just wait because it is so expensive.
And it's it's a night out that you might not want to do if you don't, if it's not guaranteed fun anymore.
Yeah. It's really, it's a bummer because, oh, Mike, you know, what do you think? I know you're going to see it tonight, but do you think that it's, what do you think overall this movie is going to do opening weekend? Do you think it's worldwide, it'll do pretty well? What do you think?
I don't know, man, because when stuff like this happens where a movie, you assume is going to be so good and then, you know, you hear the talk. Like, I've just brought back to the Flash. Like, that movie was on point until about a week before it came out.
And then it came out.
You know?
Yeah.
It just didn't do what anyone thought.
And the word of mouth happened.
It wasn't even like it was second week box office drop.
It was like right away.
Like the diehard fans will go.
But this movie kind of transcend.
The original Joker transcended that.
It transcended DC people and everything.
It just everyone heard about this kind of zeitgeist of a movie and fought into it and went in, you know.
I'm going to put.
I don't know, man.
I'm going to post a poll right now.
And I'm going to ask the audience that's watching,
are you going to see Joker 2 in the theater?
Not this weekend, but in the theater.
I want to see what the audience who's watching now going to see.
And let's see if they're going to see it.
So we'll find that out in just a moment.
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Steph, you still dig in the Lord of the Rings show on Amazon?
Yes.
All right, so I got some news for you.
You want to hear it?
Yeah, I do.
I got some viewership details.
You want to hear it?
Yes, I do.
All right, so I don't know.
I don't know the answer.
I don't know this is good or bad news for you.
I just saw that it just popped up and we're going to find out.
We're going to find out.
Here it is.
New rings of power.
Season 2 viewership details.
And the details are as followed.
Amazon Prime has unveiled new viewership figures for their mega budget,
The Lord of the Rings of Power series ahead of the show's second season finale airing this Thursday.
Jennifer Salkey, head of Amazon MGM Studios, appeared at the Streamers UK Upfront presentation in London,
revealed that the first season has pulled in more than 150 million global viewers to date.
In addition, she says the second season has managed 55,
million global viewers ahead of the finale.
It's like Salkey is referring to the number of accounts which watch as opposed to actual
viewership figures.
It also has been confirmed that the UK is among the top regions in the term of the series
viewership and the prime is expected more growth and momentum for the second season with time.
The talk comes as Nielsen Data has shown an audience decline.
The second season premiere saw over one billion minutes viewed but was down from the first
season debut despite more episodes were available this time around.
first season debuted in September 2022 to the largest premier audience ever for prime video so i don't know
stuff this seems to me like there's a lot of um you know flanageling if you will of well look this is a
great number which didn't give like the real numbers and she's kind of right before she makes
an announcement she goes just give me a good number to what should what can i say well want to
just how many accounts are watching in as opposed to what do we would have so that we make make it look
good. Because everything that I've heard so far about the second season, everything, for people
who didn't like the first season that kept watching into season two, have liked season two.
The problem is people like myself and other people who were turned off by season one,
there were too many of us that just said, nope, I'm good. But yeah, you're frustrated by this because
you like this show a lot, right? Yeah, I don't get it. I really don't get it. Usually I can
understand if you tell me what you think, but people are telling me what they think,
and I'm seeing critics that I actually usually agree with or respect their opinion.
And I, I hear them, but I don't, I'm not listening.
Okay.
Are they saying it's not good?
Steph, that's the best.
That's just you.
I hear what you're saying, but I'm not listening.
I'm not listening.
I'm just not listening.
Love it.
So yeah, a lot of the critics are saying
I don't like that it feels like
it's two people talking in each scene
I'm just like is that not 95%
of television and movies?
That's true.
Two people are talking or doing something together
when you really break it down.
So I just think it's like when you don't like something
you start, I do it too.
It's just human nature.
You nitpick it and then you don't like
it's like when you start to get annoyed of someone
and then you're like holy shit,
even the way you breathe is unacceptable.
I think that's what this show has done to people.
It's like they came out the gate.
Everyone watched it at the highest viewed first episode.
Then they didn't like it.
Excuse me.
Then they didn't like it.
So now it's it's like they got the chance to like it and they didn't.
So now they're coming at it with a vengeance.
And I get it.
Once you don't like something,
it's hard to come back from the ick.
But I, it sucks because last episode,
the penultimate was so great it was yeah it's it's a bummer it's a bummer to hear it because i was very
excited like a lot of people i was very excited for this series and it just it just lost me i was just
not as you know because i love those movies man and i love and i was just so locked into it
and i just felt like yeah it wasn't great and and i've heard and you you and i are usually on the
same page when it comes to because you didn't think this first season was great that it was fine right
or did you really like the first season?
I liked the first season,
but I understood some of why people were like,
it's just not holding my interest.
But you think season two is just way better.
Way better.
I think it's way better.
I mean, I just, I don't want,
I don't know if I'm going to go back and watch it.
I'd like to tell myself that I would try it,
but then again,
after these kind of numbers,
it's like this goes back to what we were just talking about,
with the amount of money that this thing costs.
and the fact that they can't hold their viewership,
you know, get the viewership back and they lost so many people,
can they keep it on the air and do I want to get invested?
You know what I mean?
I know the money is crazy,
but it really, at least to me,
you guys know I don't have the greatest eye on something.
I'm not as critical on when people are using effects
to some people,
but it looks so,
the show looks insane.
And last episode was like an hour long,
battle. And they
lit. It's not like Game
of Thrones dark. You can really
see it. It looked so
cool. And
yeah, so I feel
like, you know, it's still hard to
understand how you spend that much, but
at least it looks good.
Mike, do you have any, do you
didn't watch first season either, did you?
No, I didn't.
Didn't care.
Yeah, man. I don't know if it's just a matter of there's
so much stuff out there that I'm still behind on.
Like I love the movies, the original trilogy.
And then I'm actually in the minority where I really like the Hobbit films.
I think the effects are way overblown.
But I really enjoyed the story of the first one of the Hobbit films, all three of those.
So I would think I'm, that would be my thing.
But I'm just like, eh, I don't know, man.
I'm just with TV.
Yeah.
There's so much out there.
There's so much.
I'm very selective on what I want.
I mean, it's a lot of investment.
So the Great Wicked Art who did the
Capes and Cowles
comic book, which I think will be available.
We're going to have members. We just started
channel membership on this channel. I think that
the Capes and Cowell's comic book
will be available to those members also.
But he
wrote, and he said that Amazon already
confirmed that they're going to do all five
seasons regardless of how
it does. Now, hey, good on
them for committing to it, but that's, first of all,
that's a statement. It means you got to do it.
And if you go do the third season and nobody's watching,
before season, nobody's watching.
You're putting all that money into it.
Either you can, again, going back to what this guy said before
about how he didn't understand about why we care about budgets,
it's because you can't, you shouldn't do five seasons of that show
for too much money if you're not doing the ratings on it.
But I don't know, we'll see.
But you know, this is an interesting,
you got Gladiator 2 that's coming out right around the corner,
which I'm still pretty hyped about.
Some people are mixed on it.
I think that's going to be another one that's going to be all about word of mouth and if it delivers.
Ridley Scott.
Ridley Scott's doing something interesting that I'm curious about, and that is a TV show that he's going to produce.
Ridley Scott is going to produce the Pompeii series.
Ridley Scott is set to produce a limited series adaptation of the book, A Day of Fire, a novel of Pompeii, currently in development at Amazon.
The book covers the lead-up to the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79.
AD, an event which utterly destroyed the Italian city and killed many of its residents.
The story deals with a series of overlapping stories of people living in Pompeii and what
their lives were like before the heavens came down on them.
The book was penned by a bunch of authors including Kate Quinn, Stephanie Dre, Ben Cain,
Eliza the Knight, Sophie Perrinot, and Vicky Alvallaire.
The Tudors and Vikings creator and Elizabeth Scribe Michael Hurst is said as a writer,
executive producer and showrunner alongside Horatio Hurst making his TV writing debut.
Ridley Scott, David Zucker, Clayton Kruger, and Sharon Huff, executive produce for Scott Free.
This will join Scott Free's impressive upcoming slate, which includes Blade Runner 2099.
Is that a TV show?
Blade Runner 2099?
I didn't know about that.
An Alien Earth.
Do you know anything about that?
The Blade Runner?
I heard something because the 2099, because the last one was what, 59, 2059?
49, wasn't it?
39?
39?
I thought it was a photo.
I thought it was 49, but maybe they'll tell us, they'll tell us quick in the, in the comments here.
But Pompeii said it's a historical thing that I've always been fascinated by.
A lot of people have been fascinated by in the same way I think people are fascinated with Titanic and other things.
This is going to be to me a very, this could be a showgun level type of thing if they do it right,
which is obviously going to end in tragedy because you're going to be attached to all these people.
And you know they're not going to make it in, make it out, rather.
It was 249, I was right.
Thank you. Thank you very little.
So I think this is a good team.
I'm on board for this.
I'm curious for it.
I'm hoping that it's going to be good.
But, Steph, you hear this news?
Is this something that fascinates you at all?
Or do you not really care?
Yeah, it's exciting.
You know, I like historical pieces, even if they fluctuate from the truth somewhat.
It's still exciting to me.
I like those types of shows.
So I think that, and you know, I love Shogun, so that's a good point.
if they make it in a similar vein where I think part of the reason Shogun was so great is that it is pretty historical based, historically based.
So that's even more fun, like finding out that it's real when it seems so insane.
And Pompeii is one of those events.
It's like it's so great.
Like what was happening is so crazy.
So it could be cool.
I think Ridley Scott, you know, he attaches himself to a lot of projects, but most of them are pretty good.
Mike, what do you think?
Yeah.
Like I'm going back to thinking about glad or two, you said, like, I don't know how that's going to do.
So, but a TV show about that period that it seems like any, it seems like it's such a fascinating event.
A lot of times they do events or historical TV shows, you're kind of like, all right, well, we'll see what the characters are.
But that's backed by such a great event, like fascinating.
and I don't know but then again there was the movie about it and I think was awful
that's true yeah kit Harrington oh it was not good it was not good but it that was a bad movie
no you're right but again if there's a tv show right right you have more time to explore on it and
you have a good in a good team in the same way we're the analogy to shogun that's a great analogy yeah
yeah if you can do show gun I mean that's what everybody's going to compare the stuff to right now
and and and hopefully so hopefully the teams in generally we should do a showgun style
thing on Pompeii and you obviously even if it's super popular you can't do a season two of Pompeii
clearly um but you're gonna but it's gonna if you get emotionally attached that's the that's the thing
with this show if you get emotionally attached to all these people you're gonna be bummed every
episode because you know what's coming and you're like oh he's nobody nobody makes it out
oh yeah that is true i like i love i love copernicus oh yeah you know he's toast you know what's gonna
happen it's like why we want to watch it if I know everybody's gonna die because it's the lead
up to it's the tragedy it's like it's like watching the because you know and to see how they're
going to actually it's that because they have to because sometimes you do the shows of when there's a
tragedy that where the tragedy will happen in like the second episode and then it's the aftermath
you can't do that with their show there is no aftermath unless you you know unless you
years later and people are finding all the the remnants and everything too but it's like
this is a it's going to be a tough one um but i think it's a it's it's it's it's
It's a no-brainer.
If Ridley Scott comes in with this team and says, hey, we want to produce this thing for Amazon, it's a no-brainer.
You sign it up, regardless of if Ridley Scott's been hit or missed, this is, okay,
Ridley Scott wants to do a Pompeii series, a limited series, and who's your team?
All these people.
All right, let's do it.
You know, that, to me, is worth more of an investment than finishing out seasons three, four, and five of a Lord of the Rings show that isn't just isn't delivering.
But, hey, they're going to do both.
All right, we got two more stories, and then we're going to go to the questions.
And right now, you guys are at 33.
You're fighting back.
I get your credit.
Fighting back, a 33.
You still got about 100 questions left to beat Roka, but still, nonetheless, you guys beat them last week.
Let's get to this story, which, Mike, you're a big Voltron guy?
Growing up, I was.
Sure.
Well, the live action Voltron finally happening.
And now the film has cast its lead.
newcomer Daniel Quinn Toyet.
I don't know if I know that.
He's a newcomer.
I'll get his name right eventually.
He landed the starring role in the big budget live action feature based on the mecha anime Voltron,
defender of the universe at Amazon MGM Studios.
The classic 1980s cartoon centered on five young space pilots and a battalion named the Robot Lions.
Those vehicles are able to join together to form a mega robot known as Voltron.
The series, a reworking of Toy Animation's two Mecha Anime series, Beast King,
and Go Lion and Armored Fleet
Dayrigger
15. It gained international recognition when it was adapted
by World Events Production and ABC into English
animated series from 84 to 85.
The show is successful. It spawned three more animated
TV spin-offs, two video games,
line of toys. Red Notice and skyscraper
director, Ross and Marshall Thurber is attacked
to co-write and direct the film with
Ellen Sharman co-writing, Todd Lieberman, Bob Coppard, and
David Hoberman are producing.
um yeah yeah i i i had to tell you that i was interested until and no offense to it's as soon as ross and
marshal thurber i'm not a massive fan of you know that speak recently uh well he just did red
notice which is coming out um he's that the that's the rock one and um oh on netflix yeah oh no
so take a take a look mike at at his credits while we do watching that trailer i know audience
yeah i don't know but no
But let me tell you, let me tell you that it's less about the kid who's casting and I know anything about them.
Not sure.
You're not going to see the kids.
No, my problem is this, though, is that these types of things, and I went through it with He-Man and saw everything happen.
And I think that they landed, I think that finally He-Man landed on a good director in Travis Knight.
And I hope they don't lose him like they lost everybody else.
But I hope that it sticks and it looks like it is.
No, Travis, that's a good pick.
That's a good pick.
Great pick.
I'm on board.
That's been the only one so far out of everyone.
been casting on that too yeah yeah they've been casting heavy on i did that is this one actually
looks like it's gonna happen i think that's going i do vultron we're speaking of showgun justin uh
justin uh marks thank you have you ever read it did you read his script is voltron one no i'm sure it was
great oh i'm sure it's great i'm sure it's great but but for some reason or another a mad max
i gotta try to get him on the show me gonna try to get him on yeah get him on yeah i'd love to talk
to that dude so he um i wouldn't have you on i just do myself um but you're right i have stuff
But he was
But he probably wrote a really good one
I wonder what happened there
And probably studio politics and all that crap
His one was like the first one that was out there
Yes
I remember it's got to be
I want to say 20 years ago now
Wow no not 20 years ago because
No not 20
Because he was yeah
No because
Well I'll pull it up right now
It wasn't I have it
Do you want me to tell you why I know
Yeah tell me why you know
Because you dopey silver pictures
Because yeah you dopey ass
I was working on it with him on the He-Man thing, and that was 2007.
So he didn't do Voltron until after that.
Or he did it before it, smart-ass.
Let's see, stink-face.
Hold on. I'm pulling it up.
I got the actual script here.
Shut your mouth.
I'm very proud of you.
I'm real proud of you.
All right.
Anyway.
I'm not proud of here.
It is Voltron.
What year was it?
I downloaded it in 2010, so it's got to be before that.
Oh, now I'm pulling it up.
Get my PDF reader here.
It's like an old man trying to find his pajamas in the morning.
PDF reader
That's what it's called
Steph when it opens up the document
Steph Steph what a loser
Am I right?
Shut up Steph
All right here's Justin Marks
He just froze
You're right
Yeah you know I know I'm right
You're real right
What year was that?
Oh no wait wait no no no no
I don't my glasses on it's 07
Okay it was 07
It wasn't 04 17 I had on my glasses
Around the same time
May 23rd 07
Okay
All right
Yeah I thought so
That's what I said, mid-2000s, smart ass.
Almost 20 years ago.
Is that what he said, Steph?
I don't know.
Come on, back me up here, Steph.
Come on.
I actually don't remember.
Let me close my PDF reader now.
Loser.
All right.
Let's get back to the last subject, please.
What is it?
Well, what a moron you are?
After that display, you don't have anything to say.
So once you could yell at somebody at Twitter.
Here's the next one.
Let's go.
waiting. I'm trying to think of what I should do. Oh, I know which one I'm going to do. I know what
I'm going to do. Let's talk a little Spider-Man. Let's talk a little Spidey. Okay.
Andrew Garfield is open for more Spider-Man. Now, having returned to the Peter Parker Spider-Man
role in Spider-Man No Way Home, actor Andrew Garfield has indicated he'll happily come back
for more MCU fun on certain conditions. Talking to Esquire to promote his new romantic drama,
We Live in Time, Garfield says he had been left dangling after the amazing Spider-Man.
Man 3 was sheled. When the character made his way in no, sorry, when the character made his
no way home debut, he described it as being really healing for me. And so he's keen to get back
to it, which he says for sure. I would 100% come back if it was the right thing. If it's additive
to the culture, if there's a great concept or something that hasn't been done before,
that's unique and odd and exciting, and that you can sink your teeth into, I love the character
and it brings joy. It's part of, if part of what I bring joy is, then I'm hopeful in return.
Though plenty of rumors have swirled that he'll be back, including one today from MTTSH, saying he'll be back in the role for at least two more projects.
There's been no official indication either way from Sony or Marvel if he or Toby will once again be joining Tom Holland in the new film.
Garfield also revealed to the Hollywood Reporter this week that he would like to make a film or show something that is the feeling of the stuff that was brought up on like 90s, early 2000s, and ads at a swashbuckling, Amblin-style adventure film and an Adrian Lynn's.
Elerotic Thriller as the kind of project he's been drawn to him.
Okay, so I just did it.
Go ahead, Brainiac.
Do that again.
What?
Do it again.
What you just said?
Stick your whole forehead into the camera.
Yeah, perfect.
That's what everyone needs to see.
Look at that.
So good.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
All right.
So get out of there.
Unbelievable.
All right.
So.
Look at it.
stuff just laughing our ass off so we are talking about we were actually just had a spider-man
episode of matt sarah's show which is every tuesday at 11 a.m. on and his channel you should go check it
out but it's uh he had said Robbie fox on from barstool and they were talking about the spider-man
films and we start getting into that conversation I don't know what the deal is with Sony and
Marvel as far as their deal of what Sony's allowed to do with spider-man I know that you obviously
they can make spider-man villain movies they can do all that but what they're allowed to do is single
Spider-Man movies because I would only assume that they probably have to make something with Marvel
in order to have Spider-Man movies because otherwise it is again using the word irresponsible
that and stupid that they wouldn't have just made a Toby McGuire Andrew McGarfield
Andrew McGarfield and Toby Lewis if Toby McQuire and Andrew Garfield and Andrew Garfield and
Andrew Garfield if they would have just made a movie with those guys yeah to be good old Toby
Lou. If they would have made a movie with those guys right away, that's what they should have done,
but maybe they're not allowed to do it. And it also makes sense because of all the things you
hear, Mike, with Kevin Feigey wants a street level movie. They want to bring it, Sony wants to bring
back Garfield and McGuire. And these rumors here, what do you think, A, about him wanting to
come back, a Spider-Man, and B, how they should do it?
I have to ask, what are we doing with all this?
to me now I'm hearing all these things with you know he wants to come back and again I know people
there's kind of that saw spot for his two films and the no way home wanted people now to
you know see mcguire again but I thought that the point of these were a closure to those guys
films and that hollins the spider man I'm seeing it now with wolverine like now the reports are
that jackman's going to be the wolverine in the MCU like what was the point of this we got rid of them
to go into the D-D-D-D-D-D-D-Need to start over and give us the definitive version of these characters.
Now everyone wants the same characters with a fresh coat of pain on them.
Like, I thought their time was done.
Like, I think it's over after Secret Wars.
I think that they're probably just trying to milk it dry.
I thought it was over with Deadpool, too.
I know, but I think they're trying to milk it drive.
I think this is.
We reset.
Yeah.
This is the MCU going forward.
And I left that movie going, I have no idea what's going on with the X-Men of the MCU.
I have no idea what's going on.
He's not part of the MCU now.
He's off back in his old world.
What's going on here?
Like, if McGuire and Garfield want to do movies and it's their own universe and it's not going to cross into the MCU, it's not a multiverse.
They forgot Peter Parker.
They don't know who he is.
They're in their own separate world.
Right.
That's what they should do.
Spider-Man 4 and Amazing Spider-Man 3.
Go for it.
I think that they should do it together.
But don't be doing an MCU bullshit.
No, that's what they're going to do, though, and I agree with you.
I agree with you.
I think I'm 100% I'm 100% with you.
I think that Tom Holland should be doing a street-level daredevil punisher movie.
Sure.
And then you do, and then if you wanted to do a multiverse thing where, let's say, Andrew Garfield never made it back to his universe, but he wound up in Toby's.
And then it's a Toby and Andrew movie where they're their buddies and he's got to figure out because if you think about it, Toby's got something to go back to where Kirsten Dunst is his MJ talked about it.
He's got something to go back to where Andrew doesn't really have anything.
So, but I'm just saying if they were going to do something.
Spider-verse movies that are doing that.
I know. I'm just telling you they were going to put the two of them together.
That's how they could probably do it.
But either way, I'd like to see him come back.
Steph, do you want to see him come back?
And how do you think it should happen?
I love Andrew Garfield.
So if he wants to and they want to do it, yeah, sure.
But I'm definitely not first in line for thinking this is the, they should absolutely do it.
It feels a bit unnecessary.
if they do it I guess yeah I would say do like a standalone with them in it because now
they're connected from the last movie they were in together but I I think it's I think he has to
say of course I would come back I you know what I mean but I think he wants to but I think
he wants to though I think he really wants to I think he wants to just saying like like
actually wants to yeah like I think yeah that would be fine but I think he wants to but I
be fun yeah no I think he I think he really loves the role and I think he was pretty honest about I think
he got he was bumped about how it remember in the first the Toby McGuire movies were beloved by
by most and the third one people were disappointed with but the fourth movie was like a day away
from starting shooting and then it all fell apart they couldn't agree on anything everybody
walked away it fell apart so Sony in their contract
Had to make another Spider-Man movie by 2012
or they would have lost the rights back to Marvel.
So they go out, they rush it,
and they go and they get Andrew Garfield,
who's a great Spider-Man, people like him,
but everyone's like, it's too soon,
we just saw an origin thing, and we still want Toby,
and nobody went really, I mean, the first movie did fine.
Second movie was not like, but everyone agreed they liked him.
But it was like, okay, but afterwards they were like,
well, we don't want to do this anymore.
No more Spider-Man for you, and they took it away from him.
And he loved playing the role.
He loved it.
So when he had a chance to come back, he was, I think, you can argue, probably the one who had one of the biggest arcs in the entire No Way Home.
People were cheering when he had a chance to do that thing.
He ends up saving Zendaya in that scene and, like, you get choked up for it because you know what happened in that last movie.
And he had a redeeming thing and he really enjoyed it every time he hear him talking about it.
So I do think he wants to play it.
But I also think it's just a matter of, you know, finding it right.
and making sure that he can have that same kind of love.
Yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
We'll see.
I want to get to that poll.
Posted the poll.
And, all right, so 400, almost down 400 people are voting their asses off right now.
452 people voted so far.
Are you going to see the Joker in the theater?
I don't know if you guys have cheated or not, but do you want to guess the results?
No, I didn't.
You say 70% are going to go.
That's what Mike said.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, the question is, are you going to see Joker 2 in the theater?
Mike says 70% says they are going to see it.
Steph, what say you?
80%.
Say they're going to see it.
Yeah.
The answer is 75% say they are not, say they are not going to see it.
Oh, wow.
No, I thought your, I thought this channel fan base is definitely.
That's telling.
It's telling.
It's 400, it's 500 people, but still it's like, you know, it doesn't seem, even if there were 15,000 in here,
doesn't seem to be that much of a bounce back.
Usually it'll tell you, like, I think this is one of those things, as I mentioned.
I think that a lot of times the strategy of the fan screenings, I think the strategy is sound.
I understand it.
I don't think it worked for them this time.
I think that I think because the fans feel the same way.
And they're like, oh, what are you doing here?
And I think that that has misfired because I think more people are going to listen, as you were saying before.
I think that there's a movie you really want to see.
And a bunch of critics are telling him, that's not a good.
You're going to see it anyway.
A bunch of people who want to see it just like.
like you are saying you're not good you're going to go oh i don't know maybe i maybe i should just
wait for this one because movie tickets are expensive man i don't know each each indeed so
everything that we are talking about here guys make sure you put your comments in there tell us
what you're thinking we had a lot to discuss thus far and so much more now because you guys put in
a bunch of comments you put a bunch of questions in the way that we do it each and every live
show. It wasn't live yesterday because I went to the Joker screening, but we're making it up here
today, and this is Mike and Steph making a run at Roka's 131 questions. Currently there are 41,
and we're going to start with question number one. And the question, of course, comes in from
Matthew Welchie, who says, is the TMNT last Ronan movie still moving forward? I'm looking forward to it,
but I don't think it will succeed.
I feel the target demo is too small.
And I think this goes back to the conversation we had before.
And I say it again.
I know people are sick of it.
I'm sick of saying it.
What's the budget like?
Are they going to do a Last Ronan movie where it's a smaller budget
where it doesn't have to really make a lot?
They can make more of these movies
and more people like yourself, Matthew, will be satisfied.
I don't know.
This seems like maybe people will stop overspending,
but Disney has proven that is not the case.
Either one of you guys know anything about this last run,
running a movie at all?
I love the comic.
Yeah.
I think the comic's great.
I think like he had said very eloquently, it is a, the demographic target for that is so
damn small because it's not even Turtles fans.
It's a future story set, you know, all the Turtles have died except one.
Bless you, Steph.
Thank you.
So it's a Turtles, you're a Turtle's comic book fan that that's the audience for that.
So, but again, if you do, is it live action?
Is it animated?
What's the budget?
I don't know.
Yeah, exactly.
It's tough.
Harle, you got to, because we're hitting these films now.
Voltron, He-Man, Transformers, One.
They're going after you and I.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
But that's not, again, I love GI Joe.
Like, I want G.I. Joe movies.
I want a G.I. Joe television show.
We're not, the rest of the world doesn't care about these properties from the 80s.
Well, unless you, but that's, but that's the magic trick.
The magic trick is by getting an IP that no one cares.
about you've got to try to find a way
to make new audiences care about
them and look at something like Fall Guy, right?
Fall Guy is, me and
you are going to know that. I don't know how much
Steph knew about the TV
show at all.
And we saw it, she, after the end, she's like, wait a minute, that was a TV
show? I had no clue. Right. But you
got to be, and this goes back to what
the commentser was talking about earlier
where I disagreed with was, the
Fall Guy is a perfect example
of a movie that costs way too much
money, and it's a good movie. It's a
good movie but because of how much it cost you're never going to see another one and it was half the
budget we'd be getting another yes and it was considered a failure because it was and it's a good movie
crazy it was a critical success yes people people enjoy but it but it did and look at furiosa it's another
it's another example yeah really good movie cost too much you're never going to see another one so when
that person asked like why do you care because i wanted to see more furiosa i wanted to see more mad max
wanted to see where it's going to go that's a show that you have movies and tv shows yeah a hundred
The whole world should be built.
But they overspent, and now you're never going to see another one.
And so why do you care?
That's why I care.
Because I'm never going to see that.
And I like those movies.
All right.
So here's the next one.
And this is Roman, great Roman Fedorick.
Hey, all, almost did a spit take when I saw the episode title.
I know.
I know.
It was me and you both.
And I was going to cover this yesterday, but I just didn't have a chance to do it.
But I was like, I was going back and forth with Luke this morning.
He's like, what are you guys going to cover today?
And I was like, you know, we thought about talking about the Joker,
but I was like, we got to cover this Marvel's thing
because it's just, it adds into this acolyte thing
that we discussed on Monday.
And it's just, there's a lot coming out about it.
Roman Fedore.
What are some movies that have gotten better or worse for you over time?
Best for me is Barbie.
Wasn't crazy about it at first, but I like it much more.
Worse is Dark Night Rises.
Not bad at all.
Just not as good.
Interesting.
Yeah.
A movie that's gotten worse, I think is an easy answer.
is Last Jedi.
You know, when we had to do our rewatch
for it, it's true.
Like, when I, the first,
what's wrong stuff?
I just,
I just,
no, the way when you don't like something,
it's the funniest thing ever.
You express it.
What, just like the sadness?
It's just so, it's not personal.
It's very matter of fact.
It just, it stinks.
It stinks.
Thanks. I had this conversation with Pete.
Did you see my back and forth with PJ yesterday, Mike?
On Twitter?
No.
On Twitter, where you talk about Kingdom of Crystal Scroll?
He brought a Kingdom of Crystal Skull and he said how great it is.
And I wrote, and I just wrote, I wrote back a, was a Jif, Giff, whatever the hell is.
And I had Rocky going, it stinks.
It's the worst.
That movie sucks.
It sucks so bad.
You know.
Yeah, I'll say Crystal Skull for me.
That it gets worse.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's atrocious.
Like, when I first saw it, I was so hyped.
It's atrocious.
And the more I watched that film, the more I'm like, holy crap.
Yeah.
And it's not good.
There are some.
I'll say that.
There are some for me that I have to figure out, you know, as far as what gets better, there's certainly a bunch.
I mean, look, I said Guardians 2 is a movie that got better for me.
I didn't like, I didn't like Guardians 2 at all.
first time I saw it and then we did a rewatch of it.
Yeah.
I got my.
I have mine.
Yeah.
It gets better.
Why?
Because I'll never forget.
I went into Ragnarok.
Oh yeah.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
One, like just everything I'd seen about it, the humor.
I was like, this is going to suck.
Yeah.
And I was like a miserable bump on a log watching that movie.
Just arms full.
They're like, oh.
Oh.
Oh, I forgot like, like there was something about Asgard.
And he's like, askard.
And I'm like, oh my God.
And that movie has come around so much to me.
It is top five MCU.
I watch that and can never get tired of it.
Quote it all the time.
So that for me is 100% I was wrong.
And that movie is awesome.
Steph, you got two, one that gets worse, one that gets better.
Okay, I rarely rewatch movies unless I like them.
So I don't do what you guys do, which is I feel like rewatch movies to see if it
change your mind changed yeah my mind usually doesn't change but uh i would say like a movie with a big
twist it's like it's not that it gets worse it just doesn't hit the same so it loses it's fair
it's a nice political answer yeah and then a movie that gets better with a watch
uh i don't i don't even know killing it sorry guys i can't think of one
Fair enough. I don't rewatch movies, really.
It's hard of these questions when they pop up the two, but you definitely have some.
I can guarantee there's something you're like, oh, if it pops up, ones that you thought.
Okay, okay, I'll think about it.
Roman also, Roman follows up and says, best and worst of M. Knight Shama on.
For me, it's best to six cents, worst, last airbender, especially as a fan of the animated show.
Last Airbender is pretty bad.
So I might have to go and agree with that, especially knowing after the potential of what that show really.
I fully agree with that.
Yeah, and I'll never forget my friend Steve Simone, comedian who we went, it was me, him and Ellis went to see it.
And he did a review with us.
He had the best line.
He said, I went and saw this with my friends and the guy next to me was sleeping and I was jealous.
And is so good.
Best I would actually say, I mean, Sixth Sense is pretty damn good, but I really like what's the, oh my God, unbreakable.
I really like unbreakable.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
His best is unbreakable.
Yeah.
And his worst is the happening.
It's pretty bad, too.
Oh, that's a bad one.
Holy shit.
Yeah, that's a really bad one.
But that one, but the only difference between, in my opinion, the difference between happening and last airbender.
Oh, and the other one, after Earth.
I've seen last Airbender.
I haven't seen that.
After Earth is pretty bad, too.
The Will Smith one.
I've seen that one.
That's pretty bad, too.
But the difference between the happening, the happening is hilarious.
But the happening.
It's hilarious.
It's hilarious.
From the trailer you got, you're like, holy, this is going to be.
awesome but it's a our quote was what but it's funny but it's funny oh hot talks you know hot talks
you know hot talks i'm hot talks man um this this is a joke from yesterday or two days ago
calumphadian says 378 million for the marvels is wild so i made brett and i were on for my birthday
show we were doing a in the beginning of before roxy got in there we started talking about
slang and things that i hate and i hate when people glom on to whatever's
popular so they start saying it and everywhere you go now on every post everything is wild
oh there's something for this is wild this is wild this is wild that's a new slang oh my god
everybody uses wild out of control like that's wild yes it's horrible is what it's it's terrible it's
it's terrible i heard it back when we were growing up yeah but yeah but they abuse it they abuse it and
it's been abused so callum is helping us uh abuse it today but he's right 378 is absolutely wild
Al Rensha, Mike with Christian is always funny.
You shut your mouth.
That's right.
It is.
You shut your mouth when I'm talking to you.
You shut it.
Wait, hold on.
I didn't hear what you said.
Shut your mouth.
What did you say, Mike?
Oh, sorry, I didn't hear you.
Perfect.
What did you say?
Wait, no, no, I'll meet you now.
Go ahead.
Sorry, sorry.
What did you say?
Wait, what did you say?
Perfect.
Loser.
All right.
So here's the.
the next. This is
Mad Sinister Macau. I'm sad hearing about
Joker 2. Beth Snyder thinks that
either Clayface is pretending
to be Todd Feltz
or Todd is actually on
Arkham's Silo patient. Yeah, I don't want to
give too much detail of anything but what's
going on, but there's a lot
of, there's a lot going on in that movie
that just doesn't make sense. So I'm very
curious to see what. Mike,
what time are you going to see it?
I think it's at 7.
7. 7. Will you text me after you see
because I'm so curious.
I'm so curious to hear.
Yeah, on the thread, just put it on the thread and tell us.
Patty Boy, have you seen the Wild Robot?
It's awesome.
Top of 24.
It's really good.
And I'm going to take my little one didn't want to see it because her answer stuff.
I got a good Maisie story for you today.
Yeah, I have questions about her.
So she says she just turned seven.
So I said to her today, I was like,
Maisie, you don't want to see Wild Robot?
She was, I saw the trailer and I don't want to see it.
And I go, do you even know what it's about?
She goes, yeah?
I go, what?
She goes, a Wild Robot.
idiot yeah i was like oh yeah it's true and i said and i go what else about she goes she makes friends
a bunch of animals i said yeah and what else is a fox and a duck or goose or whatever i go yeah but
they and they and there and she's a fire and i go yeah but it's pretty good i don't want to go the
movies she's like actually yeah i want to get popcorn i'll go so what question did you have
adjusting to the East Coast.
I mean, she's already running three casinos.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I knew it.
Yeah, she's doing, she's doing it.
She likes it.
She likes it. She's enjoying it.
Derek Johnson.
Derek the Great.
I'll give a pass to the MCU just because it feels like they have a huge money bet every now and then, but not consistently.
DCU, sorry.
And Lucasfilm won't get that grace for me.
Well, I'll give you the Lucasfilm one because they've had enough time.
to prove that they don't know what they're doing over there.
This this DC regime is brand new.
Derek, I know that you're, Derek's been pressing on James Gunn.
He's not, he's very skeptical.
It's very skeptical.
But I'm giving Gunn a pass.
I'm giving him a shot to see what he can do before I start judging him.
Like, MCU's got some time to try to re-get the ship back in order
and get past all the $380 million budgets and all that crap.
And they got a chance to rewrite the ship.
Lucasfilm is a nightmare
But Mike, are you with me?
Is the DC guy?
Like, you gotta give gun on.
There's another one I said that I hate, Steph.
You got to give him time to cook.
Oh, I hate him cook.
To that one, to add on to that Christian,
I hate the when they're like, oh, is DC fans,
we are eating good right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah, it's the worst.
Oh, we are.
And that one and the other stupid statement,
the other one.
You guys, I-
No one hate Star Wars.
No one hate Star Wars more than Star Wars fans.
It's a good one.
It's a good one. It's more about the repetitiveness.
Yes, it's someone glomming on to something else.
It's like, do they come up with your own thing.
Like I said, like I see how many times?
No one hates Star Wars, world of Star Wars fans.
Like, where'd you read that in a book?
I'll tell you this, Harleck.
What I'm excited for, I see that with DC kind of it's, it's, the ship has been right
and they're going in the right direction.
Like they're letting Reeves do his thing still.
And it's hitting.
Yeah.
Penguin's hitting and they're not messing that up.
But then I hear the executives.
You heard the report, right?
Zasloff wants Pattinson.
It's like,
shut the fuck up.
So what Mike's talking about is what we,
well,
Mike talked about this is what we had the other day,
which is that there's a rumor not confirmed
that Zazloff is kind of because of the,
because of the hit of the penguin
and because of the hit,
because they want people love the Batman,
that the pressure is that why don't we make patents in the DCU Batman?
And I don't think that works whatsoever.
Absolutely not.
Not at all.
I think Reeves would not want that.
I think he'd go, nope.
No.
I'm going to do my three films.
Penguin made a couple seasons and we're done.
We'll also see what they throw at him.
But I think it's more about a gun and saffron being pressured.
In Pattinson and, no, because they're going to be at the same time the two films.
I know.
It's too weird.
I was going to say if they wanted him after this to be a completely different Bruce Wayne and Batman
and he's...
Too confusing.
Completely different
than what they did
in the Batman.
It's too confusing.
I'd be more open to it.
But if you're using the same
guy that you've established,
F, no.
No.
No way.
Absolutely not.
Alexander Wilson,
if you look at the UK tax filing
for the LLC for the Marbles,
it doesn't itemize the expenses.
It just lists general expenses
as cost of goods sold.
Sounds like something the Sopranos would do.
Something shady.
Right, doesn't it?
Sounds to something the penguins
doing right now at the docks with the drops.
Have we talked about the penguin yet, Mike?
What are you thinking so far?
I'm loving.
Do you love it?
How are you not loving it?
I love it.
I think it's great.
It's what we wanted with Boba.
100%.
I love it.
I think it's great.
It's not so good.
Yeah.
No, it's great.
It's great.
Let me just say,
Sophia Falcone.
I can fix her.
You can.
You love her, huh?
You love her.
You like, you like sassy.
You like sassy chicks.
Oh, I love her.
Yeah.
She's really good.
Oh my God.
That's so good.
I can fix her.
That's so good.
And Steph, you know how we thought?
Damn.
I haven't seen like a woman.
equivalent of that yeah where like men are like oh like there you go worth getting my head
bashing i was gonna say guess what step he'd be dead in three hours yeah yeah yeah she is yeah she is
just getting started she's yeah she's she's great in the show christin milliotti is amazing
derrick johnson is this news that disney will be taking over actors accounts with their consent to protect
them from toxic behavior real and do you think that's a good or bad idea okay i'm gonna be in the
minority of this i mean 100% i didn't hear this what is this what's going on i don't know and is a
first time I'm hearing you too. But let's say that this is true that Disney when they sign on an
actor to be part of their project, they are allowed to take over their social media while that
project is going on. I don't know if that's what this is or not. I have no idea. Someone can send me
whether that's what it seems like Derek is saying. As someone who ran this thing, Shmo, I would
100% be on board with us. But I would also understand the pushback from everybody.
But I would say, yes, please, no more because protect your business.
Because if, I mean, I would, there's so many times I'd want to cut Mike's hands off, Roka's hands off, Bibiani's hands off.
So many people's hands from Twitter.
Stop this. Stop this.
And they, yeah, I would love it, but I also understand the Woody Thomas, my account.
Right.
You got to be responsible for your own behavior.
But here's the thing.
Let me do it real quick.
There's things that have been going on lately in the community.
And I'll just say this, that I called my friend and I said, thank God the Shmodown is dead.
Because I would have been catching heat from people that I have nothing to do with.
I got it all the time.
If people were tweeting stuff that had nothing to do with the Shmodown, they, how do you have a person like that in the Shmodon?
And I'm like, I was so glad I got none of that because I don't want to deal with that.
And Disney, whoever shouldn't have to deal with that either way.
but I don't know how true it is, but Steph, what do you think about if this is true?
I think it's nice and thought, which is a lot of things that help ease control and situations,
but it's ultimately doesn't align with my values of a society.
Like, that's too controlling.
That's too, like, the big eyes watching you.
I agree.
I agree.
So I get it.
There's a lot of things where I'm like, you know, like, I think most,
Most people probably shouldn't have the right to vote, but I obviously believe that people have the right to vote.
Right.
So it's like nice when we're just talking about it, like, oh, this would be an easy way to have damage control very easily.
Right.
But it doesn't practice.
It doesn't work.
I agree, but I still hope that they do it.
Yeah.
Mike?
I see Harloff your side.
I do see that.
But also at that point, it's like, well, are you tweeting?
out for me. Do I have to run my tweets by you? Yeah. What is this like? But also it's freedom of speech
and that but with freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consign. Right. Right. Harloff,
you could have gone to me and said, hey, Kalinowski. I did going at people. I got to cut you from
the shmow down. Well, I wouldn't. Or you need to stop. Right. Or you're, I can't. Yeah, but that's,
but that's, but that's, okay, perfect example. But that's the problem. Because let's say that you,
because here's, you tweet something out, right? I say and then let's say that the people like,
work with who bought over the company who make the decisions going hey we don't like what that
person said you got to get rid of them and I go well can we suspend them and they go no you got to
get rid of them and I go well do I have to make the announcement yeah you're running the thing
well guess who gets bounced back on me and guess and guess what happens when they go when you go
you know if you do your thing everyone goes well why'd you do that why did you say it I could I could cut you
but it still comes back on me and it comes back on the company that's where the companies
have to come in with with there's got to be some
Grace there. Like look at the whole Melissa Barrera situation with the screen. Like within
seconds, it's gone. Like there should have been some like talk conversation backstage and like,
hey, this is going to affect the show in the movie. We can't really what are you like what is your
goal with this and and going forward like you know. Yeah. It's it's tough. I as a performer,
I get the company side of it. Yeah. 100% do. Right. I mean, and I also. The freedom of speech. I understand
that also it's it's tricky I don't know if they could if they've able to pull that off
Alexander Wilson if the in the UK if a movie production shows a loss the UK
will pay the LLC 25% of what you spend in cash so they include marketing
residuals and participation in the tax filing to get the money back that's
interesting yeah that's interesting so then we get something maybe that's why
they did it there but um yeah I'm sure there's ways around to what they did but like
still doesn't doesn't take away the amount of money they spent on that thing
Bajaro 3.
Hype for Sinners with Coogler.
That movie looked really good.
You guys see the trailer for that?
I did, yeah.
No.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
The vampire movie.
So look, perfect example.
Michael B. Jordan, major star.
Okay, you run around.
You lead with him.
Recognize he'll face.
Good cast surrounding him,
but no huge major stars,
minus Michael B. Jordan.
And Ryan Coogan, one of the best directors
out there today.
$75 million.
dollars, $75 million.
And this is...
Yeah, I got it stuff.
What I loved about that trailer is that I don't really know what the movie's about.
Yeah.
I have ideas of the themes that they're going for, but really the story, there was, it was very confusing, but I like that.
Because I'm like, okay, I'm intrigued.
Yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
All right, Alexander Wilson.
For the UK tax filing, for Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom.
It stated that $516.1 million was spent on it.
These tax filings include more than the film's production costs
and include more royalty payments.
A lot of it's misleading.
Maybe so, but it doesn't seem like that was what the case was
for this particular thing.
It seems like from what they reported on,
there was an additional movie spent on the production itself.
But again, man, Alexander, even if the thing,
what we knew is that it was in the high 200s, it's too much.
It's too much for a movie that wasn't hyped, wasn't proven.
Darth Vader's burnt asshole to push back on the budget quality overspending thing.
A movie enjoyed is a movie enjoyed.
Never once to be as kids watch a movie and determine its quality based on budget.
Love y'all.
And to push back on that.
Because back then, the budgets weren't overspending because they weren't making these kind of movies
and they didn't have that kind of budget to be able to overspent.
So a movie enjoyed, sure, you can enjoy it.
But it means that a lot of those times that they spent them accordingly,
that you'd probably see another one if they did well.
And there was less to compare to that if you really liked a movie back in the day, you can go, oh, that movie is a success.
And what it also does, but the other thing we didn't bring up is that if a movie is really, really good and it does poorly, it affects the director.
It affects the actors in the movie because of whether or not it's valid or not.
The studios go, well, that person was in that movie that lost $200 million.
And they're not a commodity.
People don't want people don't want them.
The director lost all that money.
I think that's a huge point.
Yeah.
It's crazy the way we're talking about star power, director power, writer power.
But a lot of it.
And so it's like, you know, you wish for big budgets.
But the responsibility of that, I think is proving to be way, way bigger than we thought.
It's huge because back in the day, you didn't have those types of budgets.
So more people when they made, they had more success.
You saw more of that person.
saw more movies directed by those people because there's not this standard of trying to hit this elevated budget.
So I disagree entirely with that statement, respectfully.
The Sink Lord.
Steph should have been Captain Marvel.
Movie would have been better.
I agree.
I agree.
I agree.
Oh, here's, Steph, you might be able to do this because we couldn't do it the other day when we were put on the spot.
I'm going to give you some time to think about it.
But as we go through this, but you're a Saturday Night Live junkies.
You might be able to do this.
The question was, if Saturday Night, you can use any cast from any generation and you can mix and match them.
If Saturday Night Live was going to do a skit of our show, which actors would play us?
Well, that's a good question.
It was great.
Okay, yeah, give me some time.
You think about that.
You can write them down and we'll reveal it at the end of the show, okay?
All right.
So N-L-S-F-C-96 recently saw Kate Mulligan on McCooligan on McCool.
Cougas podcast. I miss her here. Is there any way that she can come back for a show with Brett
for old times sake? A hundred percent. Kate's like one of my best friends. I'd love to have Kate.
For a second there, I thought you said Kate Mulgrew. Oh.
I'm like, Kate Mulgrew?
Kay Mulgrew. No, I didn't say that. I said Kay Mulgown.
Orange and New Black, Voyager. No, no, no. No, Kmolegan.
But yeah, so, yeah, I'd love to have Kate back. Anytime. Kate's the best.
Jazz Fos. Chances, prior budgets, exceeded report value. Maybe. I mean, there's always a
chances. It's again the fact that
the overall, I think everybody agrees that whatever the budget was
it was too much.
There are 52 questions you guys got
today. It's pretty damn good.
Nice. Pretty damn good. Kingsport Cal.
This is for Steph. So one
point. You whirl, girl.
Nice.
Aaron. Oh, nice. Thank you.
Aaron says you'll love Taskmaster. I promise.
If you watch the trailer for it,
Aaron's been trying to get me to watch Taskmaster forever.
You guys know this show?
Taskmaster?
Taskmaster.
Master?
Yes.
That's what he said.
Like the character from...
The taskmaster?
Yeah, task master.
Master with a T.
Okay.
There's a TV show out?
That's what I said.
I did say Millioti.
Oh, Milioti?
Is that what it is?
Millioti.
I said Milliety.
Whatever.
I've never heard of that TV show.
Chila one monger.
Her name is pronounced Millioti.
It's Millioti.
It's Millioti for me.
So, wait.
Just quickly. I'm doing Christian, Coy, Mike, Winston, Roxy, Brett, and me.
Roca.
And Roca, duh.
Oh, I know.
It plays Roca.
That's 100%.
Oh, the guy, but it's got to be Saturday a lot.
It is a Saturday lot.
No, not, you're thinking of Graham Green, but no.
Yes.
Oh, that is Rocha.
Perfect.
Medea Raymond.
I would love to see a movie of Malar and McNeven's Nemesis comic.
Who would you want cast as a two-lead roles?
Mike, I'm going to give that to you because I don't know.
Oh, Nemesis.
God, I don't know, man.
I think Fastbender would be good
as the villain, as Lemesis.
And then I'm trying to think.
I've read the recent run,
and there was an original one who was an older cop.
He's a white dude.
And then the sequel was, I think, a black guy.
So I don't know.
I mean.
Did you have, or you had Winston in there too, right?
I don't know that one.
But I'll say Fastbender for Remus.
So I'll make sure you're Winston in there.
Yeah.
Okay.
So thank you, Mike for that one.
And then Mike Joyce says, with these high budgets,
could it be overpaying the overwork VFX studios to work on their stuff first?
I mean, maybe they're adding more to it, but cut back on other stuff.
But remember, remember this, that that movie in particular was before the strikes.
So we'll see.
Media mayhem.
Hey, y'all, I finally got my U.S. citizenship.
Congrats.
Hey, congrats.
reason because I need entertainment. I'm not political at all, but I need four more years of Mike and
Roker losing it on Twitter. It's so entertaining and I'm voting red. There you go.
He's voting red too? Yeah. Yeah. He loves Roken Eye then, I'll bet. I'm sure.
Loves Rokaneye. Yeah. But it's like, that's the whole, but look, if somebody that's,
we had this whole conversation recently. Hey, my best, my best friend votes red. So my best friend in the world.
The one from Texas. Yeah. Yeah. I'm closer to, I know I see. I actually have seen him like every
Monday this month. My buddy that I know.
My buddy that you know. He's a pilot, Steph, so he's got a lot of
Burbank overnight, so I've seen like every week.
But, yeah, he's in. Well, this is my favorite, my favorite
thing, too. My favorite thing is too.
I have already said that I'm, I am right now, I am who
everybody is aiming for, because I'm, I am,
right now, I'm in the middle, right?
I'm the middle. Because I'm the, and people always wonder,
because I was talking about this the other day, because I lived in California
for so long. I have a lot of, what the hell? I thought that was a car
screeching in the middle of your living room.
Oh, God? Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, he's, he's in the middle
too. But
either way, it's like, I just don't trust
anybody. I don't trust anybody.
And it's just, especially where we're living,
right, I don't trust anybody.
And I, I,
but it's like, this is just a
strange time where we're living, and
I hate it.
I absolutely hate it.
Medi, Rehman, which upcoming
classic horror movies are you more excited for?
Nosferatu, the Wolfman,
or Del Toro's upcoming Frankenstein movie.
Nosratu.
That Nosratu trailer, holy.
I didn't see it because I'm so,
I'm not going to watch it because I'm so hyped for it.
I'm not a horror guy,
but then I will say this.
What's his name?
Oh, God.
Leo Wynel?
Yeah, from an Invisible Man.
For me, like coming off of Upgrade to Invisible Man to now this,
like he's got my money.
Like this guy, and I'm not a horror guy.
I very rarely see horror films.
They're not just, they don't do it for me.
But the way he, you talk about budgets and this guy with what he does with the smaller budgets for Blumhouse.
Like, man, like I want another upgrade.
I heard there's an upgrade television show supposed to be going forward.
But like this guy, he like, yeah, man.
So I'm excited for those two.
The other one, whoa.
I don't know with Del Toro.
He is so hit or missed for me.
Like visually he's incredible.
And I love the way he talks about movies and books and comics.
But a lot of times the characters I don't like specific rim.
Yeah.
Gorgeous movie.
Awesome action, but I could care less about those characters.
Could not care.
Or couldn't care less.
Whatever you know.
I just so.
Yeah.
I don't know on that one.
This one is for me.
This is from Greenie from Oz.
WrestleMania main event.
Who are you predicting?
Haven't watched for years.
But not the Triple H has a, now that Triple H has the reins.
I've gotten back into it.
I would probably tell you in part of the main event,
is Roman Raines in the rock. I think that's going to finally happen. I think that they're
finally going to get that. They're going to lead to it now with Roman Raines being a baby face.
And I think that that's and they'll have the rock play heel again and they'll make a lot of money.
Greenie from Oz says, I believe in Joe Hendry. I don't know who that is. Who's that?
Everybody know?
I don't know.
Nope. Thank you though. Mike, were you in the equalizer?
Was I in the movie? Yeah. Yeah. No. Okay. Someone asked.
Why someone asked? Yeah.
What do they say?
They said, was Mike in the Equalizer?
What role?
They didn't say that.
They said, was Mike in the Equalizer?
Well, ask, oh, maybe the TV show.
I don't know.
But no, I was not.
Renetta, what's up, crew?
Have you seen the new trailer for the juror number two?
No, I haven't.
It looks to be a great thriller.
Great teaser, RIP to John Amos.
I'm so fond of that.
I heard that trail looked awesome.
He was hilarious in coming to America,
great in Roots and phenomenal as a guest actor in West Wing.
I love John Amos.
Great and Diehard, too, also.
So good in that.
What a ruse.
Lorenzo shut the fuck up oh so good so good um but yeah was that was that part of the um
Mike was he is he in that movie is he in juror number two or two I don't think so okay but it's just
kind of a combined he's probably a combined there's probably a combined two yeah juror number two
looks pretty good to hit but the trailer looks great okay good to know uh jG from space call me out in the
chat but I still love you guys it wasn't calling you out she's a dress in your comments saying I
disagree obviously it'd be terrible for the industry if too many movies cost 300 million dollars
Agreed.
Agreed.
Thank you for the nice question, too, by the way.
Gigi from Space.
Greenie from Oz, if you were to pinpoint one or two particular things.
By the way, if you notice how silent stuff has been,
she's been vehemently working now.
I can tell.
Greenie from Oz, if you were to pinpoint one or two particular things,
what would you say makes a James Cameron movie such a banger?
Asking a friend.
I'd love to be a screenwriter that can pull that off.
Well, I mean, you want the cliche answer?
that the guy is determined.
He is gold-driven.
He is tunnel vision.
And he just knows how to make things work.
And he knows.
And he's a general.
He's a general.
And he also picks the right project
and he doesn't overwork.
He just works on one particular thing.
And he puts everything into it that he's got.
And I never vote.
I never root against James Cameron
because he's always, he just delivers.
He just, he can,
what failure has he had?
He hasn't.
Right?
I mean, how many people can you say that about?
Everybody, even the greats of Spielberg, you can say,
you can point to things that didn't work.
Now, the difference, what people will say is that Spielberg has way more projects than Cameron.
But I guess that answers your question.
He's done it.
Yeah, that's the point.
So yeah, Mike, do you have anything to add to that?
I wonder if, because I always hear this, especially from, like, writers,
they never make a movie trying to guess who that's for.
or trying to, like, I'm going to make this movie because I want the fans of this to love this.
They make the movies or they write the books because it's something they want to read and they want to watch.
And if people want to go along for that, awesome.
So I think he loves, I mean, how long has you been in Avatar?
15 years he's in this world?
Like, you've got to love it.
You can't be just like, they make money.
I like the technology.
He's got to love those characters to spend every hour with that world.
So I think every project he gets involved in.
He loves.
Like true lies.
I just went recently watched that.
That movie is so damn good.
Yeah.
This is a great comment.
Danny Roy.
Danny Ray.
Stees,
I wish I was your gay best friend.
Best friend friend.
Are you?
And then follows it up with,
are you excited for Arcane?
Yeah.
It's having a gay best friend is so essential.
So,
and boy,
do I play the,
the side character to a gay best friend well.
so that is a good wish to have unfortunately the role is filled right now fair i'll let you know if
it opens up arcane but arcane hell yeah i'm so excited i can't wait i can't wait love it um
it'll be an instant binge yeah same same greenie from oz who says long time fan for years
thank you greenie first time live streaming way past my bedtime uh-huh any thoughts on traveling
across the globe's australia folks um i think that
We need, and I hate this answer.
I think that what I need it to be, though,
and I've been thinking about this as far as live shows go,
I make everybody a promise.
And I'm going to be doing, this is the channel.
If you noticed from when we started this thing,
as I mentioned, when we started it,
it's the most happy I've been doing a YouTube channel.
It's the most dedicated to have been, I think, ever.
It's the best crew ever worked with.
And I will tell you that I think that when we hit a million subscribers,
and we will hit it.
When we hit the millions of subscribers,
it'll be easier for me to take on a tour,
because I know that we can hit those costs and do everything.
Because I've tried to do live shows before.
We've had great live shows, but they're pricey.
And I need to have, I need to have a, and whether it's, you know,
if we have a big enough audience that want to see us in Australia,
would love to go there.
Callum.
Faden, I have enjoyed seasons one and two of Rings of Power.
My big critique is not, it's not good at balancing its storylines.
Numerier and Gandalf stories keep losing momentum this season.
You agree with that stuff?
Did you hear that?
I mean, read it?
Yeah.
He says that he's enjoyed season one and season two of rings of power, but his big critique is that it's not good at balancing its storylines.
Numerair and Gandalf stories keep losing momentum this season.
Oh, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You agree with that?
Yeah, I think that's a fair point.
It's hard.
They have a lot, they have a lot of story to tell.
Yeah.
Okay.
Derek the Great. We are either getting a
Renaissance of our favorite 80s cartoons and live action or it's going to be so bad. They'll never do it again. That I agree with
I am still wanting some silver hawks and Thundercats
Thundercats you have more of a shop because Adam Wingard says he wants to do it
Do you think Heeman will succeed? I think Heeman can succeed
I think Heeman can succeed if Travis Knight is is able to cook as the kids say
But Mike do you think that he will succeed? It's Amazon
I don't know man because
Because it's tough.
Here's the thing.
My go-to reaction is yes, because if you look at Travis Knight and the opening of Bumblebee,
and people are like, Jesus, that's what we wanted from the beginning.
So with Heman, we don't have these five, six films that people go to see.
They make money, but no one likes, like Transformer films.
So you go in, like, and if they type that up, like, hey, Travis Nike did that Bumby thing you loved and wanted from the beginning.
here's he men from the beginning done right let's go right something like that it's like i'm hoping
look lord of the rings meet star wars if that's what the movie is it's got a chance it's got a chance
sword sword and sorcery meets technology that's all it is i'm telling you i'm telling you uh
derek great did you guys see the set photos of nicholas cage and spider man noir Sony will die with a
grip on spider man i doubt marvel will ever get it back i doubt they're getting it back either but um
i just saw those making this film i didn't even know they were
was so good in the spider-verse films i mean it was animated and worked real well yeah it's just like
i don't know live action i don't know i didn't do it i didn't even know that they were making it
until about two hours ago um and then i saw this photos and me i look if you're right though
it worked in an animated can it work i'm surprised that they're not doing it like a spinoff animated
film maybe because it'll take too long probably take longer but probably yeah but i i like the photos
p parker 2288 hey mike why is christian outing
you for running up the Schmodeon budget with your fancy hotel rooms just kidding i agree though
budgets i had the big riders on those things i had bowls of skittles was only red in him i will say this about
i will i will say this about mike mike was not that much and mike was probably arguably the
if not he was one the top five biggest stars in schmodanardown history easily um thank you you were and you were not
a pain in the ass when it came you there was sometimes i was not with travel no no no i would travel
absolutely not you weren't you were not bad with travel you were not bad with those things you
were not like the only time and you apologized for it we've talked about it publicly was your
it was at the end of the spectacular when you walked off the state you did you did for people to
that's where that's where when i talked to people about it that's where the reality of yes
show it takes it past being a show yeah because you got to you got to be you got to stay in
wrestling being fake and one like sure we had we were storyline but there was so much emotion
You had to stay in characters a bad guy in in the midst of this you know at the time you can you can we can say it's an embarrassing loss now because you came back and you
You crushed it afterwards too but it's an embarrassing loss at the time for you and you were and and and there was a time for you to walk off stage and you did and I was like now and I had to chase
He's got a storyline here but poor chance to this day poor chance like do you know do you know him against you do you know what happened staff with this? No so Mike was on stage
and they were supposed to if they lost Mike was supposed to be this back and forth
they were supposed to happen on stage with Mike and Smets and whatever it was supposed to be a
camera was supposed to happen at the time but Mike left and I'm like where the hell did
he go and he didn't even do this whole thing he left he left he didn't even do a post
interview he left and this is a this was a massive theater and I was on stage and so
I said to Mike and where the hell it to Ellis I mean where the hell is he and he's like
I don't know dude we got we got to figure out of some out I go we can't
figure something out I need the guy to to to run the
the storyline. So I run back to the stage and Ellis is buying us time and I see Shannon.
She goes, good luck getting him back. I go, that's all you got for me is good luck getting him
back. So she's like, I go, where is he? And she goes, he's downstairs. So I go downstairs and he's
there and he's, you know, and obviously it was a tough. And that's from like who you would bring in as
your last gun. Yes. And tough. And look, is a tough loss. But I get down there and he's just,
you know, and he's and he's bombed. And I rightfully so. And I, and I, and I
go, what are you doing? And he goes, I can't get back out there. I go, the hell you can't
we can't do this anymore. And I go, I go, you're saying that now. I go, how many, you've been
through this already? You're going to be funny. And I go, no, no, this is it. I go, it's not it. I go,
it's not it. I go, just stop it. And I go, Mike, and I look at him, I go, you got to do this for me.
For all of our years. I go, you got to do this for me. And he goes, all right. He goes, all right. He goes,
all right. He goes back up. We get back up. Chance, who is not good. He wasn't great
on the mic. He got better his time went on, but he wasn't great on the mic. But he was only doing
what he was trying to do to save
the segment and he grabbed the mic
and I go and I'm in a stupor
at that point I'm like and I go
what the fuck is he doing on the mic?
Why is that kid on the mic? Why is he on the mic?
And and I go and he gets off and I go
why in the fuck did you grab the mic?
He goes, I should do it? And I go
and once the show was over
I went up to him and I go
it was it. He had nothing
the poor bastard was just trying to see it. I apologize
to him to this day
every time I see him I apologize to him but like
He was just trying to save the show.
But Mike, again, takes us out because Chance was on stage.
Mike, like, won on stage for a second and then just left again.
But it was like, that was, but that's, there's a little story for you.
So there you go.
But Mike was never bad.
Mike never demanded stuff.
And especially after that, after that, he was never a pain in the ass.
Derek Johnson, if you have not seen the Robbie Williams trailer where he's played by a CGI monkey,
you were missing out.
Made me instantly want to see this movie.
I saw, Ed Harrell said it to me, and I saw what it was for a second.
and I bailed on it, but, um, I saw a lot of people going, who's Robbie Harold, like,
Robbie. Yeah.
Whoever like, I know who he is.
Good marketing, I guess, right?
What's going out of here?
Yeah, good marketing.
A monkey movie, but I don't know.
I don't know what is.
Greeny from Oz.
Top five Australian movies.
If you can, if you can even name them, uh, I don't know.
I mean, I have to look through, yeah, Mad Max, all the Mad Max movies.
I have to, I mean, you have to look at which ones, if I can give me a list.
Right.
You're going to give me a list.
There's one of proposition.
Proposition is one, probably one of my top ones.
Australia needs more than Tarantino Finchers.
Oh, we need more Tarantino slash Finchers.
I think we can ace the low budget 10 to 30 million.
I totally agree.
Look, George Miller, as Mike mentioned, it's where he came from.
Let's say we've got some more here right now.
Thank you to everybody.
You guys are at 60.
What a comeback by you guys.
You guys always, always 60 questions already.
J.O.S. Rumor, may the Force be with you.
Where is Mark Ellis?
Mark Ellis is probably at home right now, just resting.
which is what I assume
he's probably got a show this weekend.
Resting? Here, you're resting? Yeah, I'm resting.
What's that from? I don't know. What is it?
Good fellas.
Oh, nice, nice.
He's telling the stories like, you're resting. I'm rested. Here, you're resting.
Yeah, I'm working resting.
Mallow Masher. Love the show. Thank you, man.
Do you think that they would do a penguin season two
between Batman 2 and 3? Also, do you think that they would make patents in the DCU Batman.
Well, that's what Mike and I were talking about.
It seems like Zazlov might want to do that.
Mike and I don't think that that should be.
you think step how would you feel about patinson as the DCU Batman net um I don't think it
makes sense for what they're doing I I actually love the freedom that DC has afforded
itself and being able to express different forms of characters based on the director
writer attached to the project yeah agree um okay and then what was the other part of that
um what did you say I missed the other part was the other part of that was
Oh, the penguin.
We think it would be between two and three.
I think, yes, I think because this show is so popular,
they're going to, they're going to back a truck full of money on Colin Farrell's
backyard and they're going to get him to do it, and he'll do it.
And it'll be in between two and three.
Yes.
I heart, pita.
Tune in for Christian and Steph.
I stayed for Mike's big ass head.
Yep.
I am more excited for Terror Fier 3 than Joker 2.
Sounds like Hot Garbage.
not i will say that it's not it's not hard hot garbage it's not brutal it's not it's not it's it's a
well-made movie it just doesn't really know what it wants to be it's hot garbage is like the acting
was bad the music sucked this is this it wasn't it wasn't a bad movie and they there's there's
there's stuff inside of it that you're like oh they wouldn't have just grabbed that together and
did that instead of throwing it all over the place like this you know so yeah um all right let's see so
next one and now it's 62 man maybe I don't know if we can get it by in that time but
still Derek the great movie that I tried to watch and gets worse for me is birds of prey I
know you know I never finished that movie what they did to Cassandra Kane by tuning her turning
her into an idiot kleptomaniac instead of the baddest female martial artist in the DC can
ever be forgiven for me so he's a big DC guy so he's a kind of a DC he's a DC
purest I get that criticism they should have just used a generic character instead of
making a Cassandra Kane yeah um all right let's see Daniel Hernandez have you
seen the cold classic teeth it's wild yeah I have seen that was one of the first
movies that Ellis and I reviewed in the I think the current TV days and yeah it
it it um it absolutely did so uh it was I even I've absolutely seen it so have you
guys ever seen teeth no I know what it is do you know what it is Steph oh yeah no
Oh my god. So you get, I was fun of if I should read you the synopsis or I should let you figure out for yourself what it is.
Oh God. It's you would you would get I want to get your reaction to when I you know, I'm going to I'm going to read the synops. Okay, okay, read the synopsis. And I'm going to. Yeah, and I'm going to get your, hold on, just get your reaction here. Okay, ready, Seth?
Yeah, I'm ready. Teeth is a 2007 American comedy horror film. The film stars Jess Weggsler.
Don O'Keefe is a teenage spoke person for a Christian abstinence group.
She frequently overhears her stepbrother Brad and his girlfriend Melanie arguing about his refusal to engage in vaginal intercourse,
insisting only have anal sex.
One afternoon at a group meeting, Dawn is introduced to Toby.
Dawn, her friends Gwen and Phil and Toby begin going as a group.
So she almost gets sexually assaulted.
She fights back and somehow his penis is cut off when it goes close to her.
China. So what she finds out
basically through this is that she has a monster
living in her vagina and she winds
up going to get stuff.
It is
absolutely. It's a crazy movie.
You should go, you should, that, you should
go to the cinefiles and tell them
or
or Cine Pals rather and tell them
and tell them to have you react to that movie
because that is a crazy
movie and it's a funny movie. It was a good movie
I mean, but okay, is there a silver lining?
Can the monster be tamed?
Or is it just by its own discretion?
You'll see is all I can say.
I don't know about we'll see.
This is crazy.
We'll see.
Derek.
Well, not so much the new DCU, but that old DCE was bad.
I'll give them a pass and give them time to cook, L.O.L.
I know.
Let's see.
Next the next one.
Okay, so someone said that these overboard users,
annoying as Big Balls. Yeah, but the difference is that Big Balls knows he's
annoying, and I know he's annoying too. That's why I like to use it. I think everyone else
thinks that by using Wild and everything else, they think that they're breaking new new
ground. Buster Barnes, thoughts on DC Dynamic Dual. I think it's else worlds, but rather it be
DCU. Either way, neither is confirmed. Also, do not let Zazlov cook. What do you think about
this, the dynamic do thing, Mike? Like, again, when I read, like, I saw it, like, it's,
we talk about what stuff is for. Like, I love DC, but I'm not, like, the whole
the idea of the animation with the claymation and the puppetry like i went to this one of the company's
websites and it's some pretty awesome stuff um but i love the fact that this dc this new version with
with him they're just doing doing it seems like when they get a great idea with the project
that can align with what they're doing because everything they're trying to make it all you know
same actors across same voices and it just seems like an interesting thing so i mean of course i'll
see it but i don't know if it's going to be
something that I'm always trying to find out what's going on with it.
Okay.
Let's go to the next one here.
And that is from Shea, Markell, who says,
A movie that's gotten worse for me is 2004 as You Got Served.
Absolutely horrendous film.
But something that's improved is Pirates of the Caribbean Four.
Those are two interesting ones.
I haven't seen either one of them in a long time, so I'm not sure.
And then he follows it up by saying,
also people say, I love that for you, way too much.
People do say that.
and then the other one is U-B-U is the other one.
My wife hates that one.
Or you do you.
You just do you.
You do you.
Yeah, she hates that.
It is passive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Joey Pedrus, do you think.
Yeah.
It's passive.
Oh, Steph, do you.
Steph, do you have answers for us?
On that SNL?
Yeah.
Okay, can I give everyone two characters?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Some people have three.
And then also just as you know, because we're saying, like,
they're actually playing us, right?
Yes, they're playing.
us in this guest. Some of us have way less options if you're just like yeah okay so Christian yeah I think
either Adam Sandler or Jason Sedakis oh okay okay okay okay um coy I think Will Forte or Dana Carvey
Great so far okay Mike I think Andy Sandberg or Mike Myers or potentially Seth Myers
Seth Myers is a good one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Winston, Canaan, probably.
And then Damon Waynes, even though he was way better off of S&L, I think he could do a good Winston.
Roxy, I think you just can't not have Kristen Wigg in the mix.
But then second, Amy Poehler, because I think she could do like a really fun Boston.
And you.
Brett.
Yeah.
Ben was a Brett was hard because it's like I want to just like you can't like to not have Will Ferrell playing someone and if it is anyone it's Brett.
Yeah.
But I also think like John Belushi or Farley like Phil Hartman in Farley.
Yeah.
That's good.
And you and you're Maya Rudolph, right?
Got to be.
Yeah, I'm Maya Rudolph.
But then I also said second up could Bowen Yang could play me.
Who's wrong?
Who's wrong?
Yeah, who's rogue?
Bowen Yang.
So I know what this is.
Who?
You do?
You say yours.
I know what it's going to be.
Okay.
I have,
I have three for him, okay?
Dan Aykroyd,
Fred Armisen,
or Bill Murray.
Nope, nope, and nope.
Okay, who you got?
What do you think?
Horatio Sands.
Oh, great call.
Come on, man.
Put him in the cat.
Coming out with the cowboy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I almost did Horatio, but I'm actually not as familiar with all of Horatio skits.
And I didn't know if that's hysterical.
Yeah, I would have Horatio Sands play Roca and then Jimmy Fallon play Mike together and having them drive into Comic Con together.
Jimmy Fallon as Mike works too.
And having them drive to Comic-Con together.
Okay, that was great.
Look at your text, YouTube, and I'm going to keep going on real quick.
Okay, so let's see.
so now we get Joey Pedrus,
do you think with the rise of guns, DCU,
will get less Elseworlds movies?
Yes, I do.
I think that the Elseworlds was just a way for them
to say we're going to keep trying to make money
on these other projects.
And yeah, that's exactly what it was.
Okay, so, and now Al Rensha, Pacific Rim,
gets better for me every time that I watch.
Great movie.
I got to re-watch the first one.
I get, I see back and forth of that.
Like, I hear people being like,
it just gets worse for me every time
because it's, I just didn't feel anything about the characters.
It looked great, but.
That's the, it's the character.
Or I hear that people think, like, what you got, what you just said, that it got better for you.
I like the movie.
It is not, it's not very remember.
Like, you don't remember it.
Yeah, it's true.
I agree with you.
Yeah.
100%.
Derek, more support.
Joe Henry, Joe Henry is a wrestler who's entry music has become crazy popular, even in different sports.
I haven't even watched it.
That shows you, is he a new wrestler?
Or is he an AEW guy?
Because I don't, oh, he's the next, he's the NXT and TNA champ.
Okay, I got it.
I got it.
There's so much now.
Pete Parker, 2288, your most underrated movie of the year that no one is talking about.
That's easy for me.
I really enjoyed Beekeeper and Voyage of the last dementia.
Isn't that?
I thought that was last year.
But I did too, but that movie slaps.
I would say Transformers won.
Was super underrated and nobody saw it.
And it's one of the best movies of the year.
for sure um off the top of my head the movie with that who directed it babes um it's with
alana glazer and oh pamela adlon directed it okay it's it's really good it's just like a really
fun flick yeah i really loved it mike you got one uh i'm gonna i haven't seen a whole whole lot this
year but I'm going to go just because I think it is great and I think when people
eventually watch it, they'll enjoy it as fall guy.
I just think it's such a fun.
That's a good movie.
It's so good.
It's fun.
It is fun.
It is fun.
Patty Booth, what are your thoughts on the Bob Dylan movie?
I can't wait.
I heard it wasn't screening.
It wasn't testing very well, but I love Mangold.
I think Shalamey looks great as Bob Dylan and I'm a big Bob Dylan fan, so I'm actually
very psyched for it.
But I thought it was coming out next year, but somebody said it's coming out this year.
I don't know.
somebody says that what do you guys think about the Dylan movie you guys excited for it or don't
care I don't care I don't care I don't care a lot Pete Parker 2288 the abyss was a commercial failure I think was it
Maybe well I don't know let's see we're talking about James Cameron so let's see box office mojo
The Abyss maybe let's let's see because I mean it's it's you know but it was it made 90 million worldwide
What was the abyss budget the abyss budget
47 million 93 yeah probably just broke even i don't think it was a failure but it was a bomb it wasn't a bomb
but it was probably is box office wise probably his lowest so it's a good it's a good example of saying
like it wasn't one of those makers right it's still it's not it's not considered a bomb by any
stretch of imagination mirror domains he man has to be wild to succeed um it has it has to be pretty
damn good though jokes aside it does have to be pretty damn good greenie from
Mando and Grogu, we all know
will be a profitable hit.
But what's after that? Will it though?
Yes. It will.
Okay. And I can, it's because it has
I'm not debating it. I'm just saying. I think it has the most
commercial opportunity because
newscasters, oh, baby Yoda. People who don't
know, like that's why they're doing it.
Yeah, baby Yoda on the red carpet. Yeah, a hundred percent,
but this is the follow-up question that I have as well.
What's after that? I'd love to see a Star Wars epic with Patton and
Lawrence of Arabia vibes. That would be off top prop. Yeah.
But again, the problem is the execs that are running.
I made this very clear.
You keep the people making, you know, visions and the books and the games and the comics and animation.
They got it covered.
They're making good calls on story and everything too.
That division's good.
TV, film, get out of there.
Get them out.
Get them out.
They need new people in there.
because they're not going to come up with a patent idea Lawrence Arabia.
They're going to come up with the same old nonsense they've been coming up with.
Get them out.
Started all new.
Okay, let's see.
What is next?
This is from crashing coyote.
If Toby and Andrew come back,
it should be when Doom is kicking Tom's ass about to kill him,
and then Toby and Andrew webs grab onto Tom and love him.
I mean,
they're probably definitely going to come back for Secret Wars, right, guys?
Yeah.
I guess so.
I think so.
I think so, too.
Nick Alexander is Disney fronting some shell corporations with these budgets?
Holy hell, where's the money going?
It is, I mean, everybody jokes about it, but it is a good question.
Like, where does it actually go?
Where does it go?
Don't know?
I don't know.
Greeny from Oz, as much as you don't like Collider Live looking back on it,
Christian, you did some solid work.
Be proud of it.
Listening to Daily Everts.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, I hate that show, but thank you.
Yeah, I hate that show.
That and Jedi Council could go away and never be a part of my life.
life and it would have been wonderful. Chris Krauss, work, life, balance, does it exist? A theater
professor who started a theater company with my wife. That's awesome. Also to make sure our daughter
isn't on the roof. Yeah, I know. It's like it's, uh, it is. It is one of those things, man,
as I have to do it. I've got to be in a zone from 8.30 in the morning until 6 where I'm just
and then I got to change my hat and put on my dad hat, walk the dog and be there for the kids
and do everything else too. And it's like, it is. It's a balance. You got to, it does exist,
you got to figure out how to do it.
So Steph,
you're approaching that zone.
How's it been so far?
Being a, you know.
I am a mother.
I know, the little one.
A growing dog.
Harry tried to correct me today where I was like,
sheesh, motherhood is difficult.
And he was like,
and I was like,
don't even continue the statement.
I said what I said.
This morning I would take her out to go to the bathroom.
She's an absolute nut job.
And I am watching her.
And she's like,
searching the yard because she's the princess of where she's decided she's going to poop today it's
always a different place and i see her climbing i have a yoga mat that's rolled up on the corner if i do it
on the deck she's puts her like she's mounds it and poops right in the center of the yoga mat
that's rolled up it's unbelievable yeah what an what an animal yeah what an animal disgusting she knows
better. She does. But yeah, there is a balance, I think. Who knows? My sister, I feel like you need.
Talk to me in five years. Talk to me in five years. When you get the, I've, every new parent I know
of babies, like real life human babies, they're kind of MIA for like two years. And then once
the second birthday happens, they're like, hey, I'm kind of getting the hang of this. And then
they have a second baby and it all starts over. I agree. Patty Boy, Oliver Jackson Cohen is
most overlooked actor which one is that which one's all over just an invisible man oh okay oh i love that
movie it's a good movie see that's what i like when i see people talk about like you know and i know
they don't want to you know they oh it's a new guy oh automatically stick him in a super
and it's like guys like that that aren't household names you but when you see them like them
they're they're good actors like that guy's really good i want to see him in yeah yeah yeah
Yeah.
An invisible man movie.
Woof, that thing is good.
It's good.
Buster Barnes.
Yes, Batinson in the DCU would be wild.
Do not let Zeslov cook as he would be eating bad.
I would hate that for us.
That was good.
There you go.
I like that.
You used it all.
He used it all.
Darth McB.
Rings of Power Season 2 is better.
Like getting punched in the face is better than being kicked in the balls.
Both are bad.
One is better, though.
Step disagrees.
He doesn't.
He didn't like it.
He didn't like it.
He didn't like it.
Luke TG1TTV massive fan of Stefan Mike glad I've got
Rounds of sending in a super chat for their show thank you Luke
Thank you question for all your ideal actor for a Star Wars Sith villain
I think it's an easy answer right now you know what I actually like to see as a star
I mean even the Fastbender and Hardy were always my answers I would love to see
Ed Skrine as a as a I know he just did that I know he did and I thought but but who saw that movie
who really remembers that movie that's why that's why i know cast him he's like i'm making my star
wars you're the villain val i know i know i know do you guys anybody you can think um you know who would
be so lit if you just made like an older sin oh i got one who hugo weaving oh yeah there's a great
call it would just be so oh man that would be like a huge actor i'd be so happy it's a great call
yeah denzil washington the problem with denzel is the same problem i got
with him in Gladiator too. He just never wants to get rid of his New York accent.
Fair enough. That's the only problem I would have. It's Denzel, but I mean, it's like...
It's in his writer. Yeah, yeah, he just never wants to get rid of it.
Greenie from Oz. You guys seem to be ace at your job, guys. As I get better here at mine,
the more I seem to enjoy it. Well, thank you for that kind of word. P.S. You guys make my day.
You make the two-hour drive home, a 10-hour day feel like a jam. Oh, that's great.
It's really great, especially when you have five days a week now, so you can catch up a back.
Oh, yeah, long drive home to have something good to listen to is so clutch.
That's awesome.
Yep, exactly.
So let's see.
Now we're going to go to the next one is Greenie from us.
You're a freaking legend.
Oh, thank you.
I appreciate that greenie.
And the next one we have, I think, is only have a couple left.
Julius Wyatt, who says Big Lobowski gets better every time I watch it.
Fact.
That's a great one.
Absolutely fact.
That is a great one because I remember when I first watched it, I was like, that's good.
And then when I watched it again, I was like, oh, this is, this is great.
This is a great movie.
Julius Wyatt, any foreign country you guys want to visit one day.
Yeah, Italy.
All of them.
Yeah, all of them.
Italy, Switzerland.
Yeah.
I'd love to go to Japan.
Yes.
Japan's, you're going to go for Star Wars Celebration?
I think so.
No, you're not going to go.
You are going to go stuff?
Oh, I don't know if I can.
planning around them then yes but but maybe yeah greenie from us last one buy yourself a nice
baller red thank you penguin awesome too i managed to talk like five blokes from working to watching it
they have my password and all nah well it's great that they i mean i'm glad and i wonder what they thought
of it i hope they loved it i love that show and this show is absolutely incredible i'm so glad that you were
able to do that thank you for your wonderful support in the show today michael gustavon rings finale
had me sitting up in my chair at three a m stuff and such an epic and tragic and tragic
season. This is what I wanted the Star Wars prequels to be.
Sauron is one evil MF.
Hey man, maybe I will check it out, I guess.
You guys, is that, that's interesting to say the prequels.
I could definitely see that vibe in there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, Shea Markell.
Have you guys heard, apparently, Daniel Day Lewis is coming out of retirement to
start a movie directed by his son.
You guys think he'll be any good?
Oh, my God.
I don't know, but.
He's retired.
Yeah, he retired.
Yeah, he retired.
I know that.
All right.
I'm,
yeah,
come on.
When he comes back,
everybody's going to want to watch him.
Everyone's going to be.
100%.
Yeah,
I'm excited.
Do I think it'll be good?
I mean,
if he's choosing it,
and I hope so.
The talent runs the same way it runs the family,
then yeah,
I'm excited for that one.
Greenie from Oz.
All right, bro.
Wine's hitting me now.
Well, thank you, Greenie.
Greeny's been awesome.
Nathan Stowe.
What kind of Star Wars role would you like to see Gary Busey do?
Put him on a wookie outfit on and let him just run around.
He needs, that needs to be like a role like,
Eddie Cedaris, Amy Cedaris' character, like some,
a crooky mechanic.
Yeah, or talk about buttered sausage.
What's it do?
What does it go?
Buttered sausage.
You know, that's my...
Yeah.
Or like out of the canteen.
I believe that I have some blue milk.
You can put it on the left side of my earlobe.
And while you do, make sure that wookie steps on my toes, not the left toe, the right toe.
And while it's on the right toe, pull on my earlobe and say, oh, yeah, blah, blah, right, right.
Thank you.
Thank you, Gary.
um there's another one that somebody said this is where where is it uh this is from haskell 420
i watched cloddle live the other day of macuga losing his mind when that woman dressed up and
brought in the us gift classic rings family was awesome that was pretty great when uh the
yeah they the us people had come in and scale me he was he was legit really really scared
when they chased him around the room um i wonder what his home is like at night night
ain't terrorist. Yeah, because, so is his wife capable to take down the boogeyman if, if God forbid,
something happened? I know. So, no, he would run out the door and leave them both there.
Stephanie Litz, office space and indiocracy get better every time. Totally true. I think McCougar would
tell you the same thing. Two left, two left. Jim one, studios going over budget does impact us
due to WB overspending on movies.
HBO cut two episodes from a House of the Dragon
and Planned Battle was pushed to season three.
Yeah, see, that's what I was saying.
It's like, that's a great point.
Yeah, they cut it up because they only had so much budget.
And instead of, look, this is one thing you give them credit for, though, right?
Instead of saying, here's more money.
They said, cut it, cut it down.
Now, look, we got impacted from it,
and I would have rather seen more of it,
but they said, we're not going to spend any more money on it.
Like, figure out a way to cut some scenes,
And that's what they should have done on that other movie.
And this is the last one from our buddy Greenie.
Oh, my God.
I really hope Daniel Day Lewis's son has a script and a half
because he'll need to live up to the hype.
Yeah, 100%.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, okay.
So here we go, guys.
Thank you for joining us,
and I appreciate it very much so.
And for everybody who came in here today,
thank you very much.
it was great to have y'all
and I want to thank my
crew for being here too and that
obviously we start with Steph, where can they find you?
At Sifstrabra, the World Girl, 6 p.m. PT.
Mike?
At Mike Klanowski. That I still control my Twitter.
Harlov doesn't. For now.
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