The Kristian Harloff Show - WHAT'S THE REAL NUMBER?! 450, 500, 800? What Is Going On With Spider-Man?!

Episode Date: July 29, 2026

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they're projecting it to be like 800 million dollars worldwide there's another site now saying it's 450 the hell is it we'll talk about that um the x-men we know are going to be moving into the next phase of marvel probably after secret wars and there's been rumors already about who's me playing who and cooper hoffman has been one of those for cyclops so uh he's he's been talking about that. He brought up a few of the rumors and discussed it. Jimonji, new trailer came out, open world. What was our take?

What was your take? And a few other things. But I'm excited because I've been talking about my pilot that we're going to be doing that Kickstarter for in September. I got the guy that's going to help make the whole damn thing happen. I'm going to introduce you to our Kickstarter campaign manager here today. So before we even do that, let's get into it. It's the show, Christian Harlov's show.

Let's do it. Did you shit, man? Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen. It is Wednesday. Kevin Smetz is on location. He'll be back. He actually really is on location. He'll be back in the next two weeks or so, playing the games and doing all that.

Yesterday we had on Roxy. Mike will be back next week. Winston's on. Friday. Chris Carr, going to be on Thursday. Roka recovering. Hopefully he's getting a little better. We're going to do a Spider-Man brand-new day. Spoiler conversation on Monday after everyone's seen it. But as I have been bringing up to you guys over the course, I think all the last year now, I think, you know, I'm going to put out that reaction that I did with my friend Tina for Iron Long. and Marky Plyer, of course, did that one.

You have seen success with whether it is shit, man, obsession, digital circus, backrooms. Chris Stuckman did it with his Kickstarter. And we're in a place now where we get to do what we want to do. And if you have something that you're passionate about, you go out there and you make it happen. and you find other people who support you, it really is magical. And you don't have to worry about the studios or the networks going, hey, that's great, but we don't want you in it. We don't want to put this, change this whole thing, change 85% of it.

The power really is in our hands. And as you guys have lovingly deemed this our show, we wanted to finally get this thing going. Attack Peter is a very good friend of mine. You guys know that. He's appeared on my show many times. my down-to-earth show many times. And as we kind of had hit a couple

bumps in the road as far as where we were going, did you guys remember? There was kind of like a stall period where, well, where's the campaign? Where's the campaign? What's happening? And it just, you know, things happened. It was getting a little complicated. So Peter said to me, he goes, listen, you're going to talk to my buddy.

This guy's done it before. He did it and he did it well. And he really put things together. And he, at first, you know, he can just give you advice. So got on the phone with his, gentlemen. And we started talking. And then as I'm talking to him, I'm like, this isn't just the guy that's giving advice. This is the guy. This is the guy that's going to help this thing get off the ground. And he's had ideas and things about what he wanted to do. And he's already been going back and

forth. And he's one of us. This is comic con this past weekend. He runs his own toy company. He's the best. So, something further ado, I want to introduce you guys to Craig Gold. There he is. What's up, man? How are you? Good. How are you? Thanks for having me. Yeah, dude, it's good to have you on the on the show. And so, you know, as I was just telling everybody about you, I guess the first thing that I really want to know, and I think you can do it a little bit more when you're under the microphone. But why did you decide to help a stupid idiot like me out? No, I mean, first of all, I love people who are passionate about what they do, right? And we, my own experience as a podcaster over the last 10 years, you know, I've met so many great people. We get all these cool experiences and just getting deeper involved in covering these things that we love and these fandoms.

And obviously, I was familiar with you and your work and just the sheer amount of effort you put into your entire world that you've built is very inspiring for me. So I got it right away. I completely agree with you on. and you know, what you're saying about the state of creatives right now, right? There's this opportunity more than ever to really not only go out and make something yourself, but fund it yourself and have your community really be a part of it. I'm sure we'll talk about it. That's what we did with the toy company that we, my group, I host, yes, have some podcast

and Toy Anxiety podcast. We launched a toy company earlier this year on Kickstarter. And I've had a lot of people since then asked me, like, you know, what's the, what's the secret? Just my mic a little bit if my audio is a little bit. Yeah, you're good. No, you're good. What's the secret? And there's no one secret, but a big piece of it is a community, right?

Like, if you can lean on your community and bring them in and say, you are, you are part of this. You kind of have a leg up. And I saw you having that. Obviously, this is a TV pilot, much different than a, uh, a toy. company, but a lot of the same principles from the crowdfunding kind of perspective. So I was super stoked to jump on. I'm glad that you did. And I do want to go over your journey because that was one of the things that intrigued me, right? Because you were, look, the goal, the overall goal in the audience, I've been upfront. And we've talked about this on the phone, you and I were talking about. So the

main thing with the audience is being upfront with them and telling them what it is, what you're looking for, why they want to support, all that stuff. And then out front with just what your goal is. And In general, I've been telling people, like, look, if I can get 13,000 people put in 25 bucks, we make the show like that. There's a goal that we're going for that, yeah, we could, if we hit the goal, Kickstarter gives us a budget, we do what we have to do. We'll make it for bare bones if we have to, right? But when I was going over that particular number, and it's in like the 325, 350 range to make the show that we want to make. And you were, and I'm thinking in my head, I don't know how people are going to react when I, when I hear that, because normally I'm thinking you're going to ask them. number, you're going to say this. And then when I found out what you did, you're running your

channel and please, anything I say that's wrong, just correct. Yeah, sure. 10,000 subscribers. And you raised close to what we're trying to raise. And you did it pretty quick. And when you were telling me inside of that, and I was like, yeah, did same question that you just said, other people were asking, like, what's the, what's the magic sauce? What's this? But tell me about that journey. Tell me about why, why you decided to do what you did in exactly what you do. Yeah. So, It's, our journey is really interesting, right? Like, we, we started, uh, YHS 10 years ago right before the 2016 Ghostbusters movie, uh, came out.

We're very much aligned and affiliated with covering Ghostbusters, uh, content, um, the, the franchise, not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, although I would love to go hunt ghosts, but, uh, I, I mainly just watch movies and shows, you know, with Bill, Bill Murray. Um, but, uh, we, we, you know, we didn't have any connection to the entertainment industry. We had no connection to the toy industry, which is three knuckleheads who wanted to lend a voice to the, you know, the growing conversation. And we have just always treated it like we're going to do this mainly because we love it. But over time, we've kind of like built this, this really cool community and these really dedicated listeners. And, you know, Ghostbusters is like a niche within a niche within a niche,

especially being Ghostbusters toy collectors. We cover a, you can see behind me we are into the toy action figure collectible space um around covid we launched uh kind of a side project show on on youtube called toy anxiety which just like a weekly like hey we're going to talk about the latest news in in the world of action figures and uh you know yada yada yada um something that's kind of happened in that world is that there's been a lot of independent companies popping up independent creators saying like hey we've got our own ideas uh you know a lot of the toy and collectible spaces rooted in nostalgia, all of these IPs, you know, Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, Ghostbusters,

Masters of the Universe. And these people started popping up. And because of the internet, because of, you know, people making connections, it's kind of been democratized where being able to kind of like create, produce, design, and manufacture your own toy line became something that maybe 10 years ago seemed unreasonable. And now is a little bit more like, hey, we can do it. So we had this idea. The idea was called cryptoid. We're taking You know Popular folklore from

You know all over But really American Americana folklore Bigfoot Mothman And you know UFO gray aliens And we're taking that And kind of building an IP around it

We called it cryptoids We kind of plugged it promoted it And teased it for about two years Yeah And by time we launched People were ready for it And And we hit our funding goal in less than 24 hours.

We ended up doubling our funding goal. Can I ask you what the funding goal was if you don't mind? Yeah, yeah. So our goal was 150K. And like just manufacturing action figures is it's expensive as an understatement. It's insanely expensive. So that was kind of our bare minimum. Like we can do a couple figures and get these out.

But then we doubled that. So we ended up raising over 300,000. $1,000. And we just, we're just now getting into production. So we'll have everything in people's hands within a year. But a lot of it, it's all about building a team. And this is another reason I really wanted to work with you, because I saw you had an awesome team. You can't do this by yourself. I mean, I guess you could, but like we, it's tough. So we aligned ourselves. Like, we got to get the best production manager. We have to get an incredible designer. We have to. We have to. you know, align ourselves. People like attack Peter being a mentor, right? Because he, if people know Peter, he's the toy director at Mondo, he's an incredible artist, and just being able to lean on people within the toy industry to kind of like course correct us. And I saw a lot of that and what you guys were doing and what you were doing. And as, you know, I'm such a movie fan and such a fan of all these franchises. So I started really kind of watching your daily show and watching

your reactions. I was like, man, there's a lot, there was just a lot of parallels and a lot of similarities. Even though your project is completely different than launching a toy company, there was enough like common grounds where I was like, I think I can lend a hand. Well, yeah, but it's the strategy behind it and everything that you just said. And I think that the other thing that even, you know, looking at the comments, people don't really understand it. You were talking about too when it came to like the toy where you, 150,000 grand. It's like, yeah, I can do a couple things. Like someone said, it's 350,000 for a whole season or pilot. It's like the pilot.

A pilot's normally cost one, like the, if you look at something like the bear, which is the example I use and it's like what was like 1.1. So we're going to be doing like bare bones in a high polished thing if we can hit that 350, you know, because we're going to have to go out and we're going to get the cast and we're going to have to get the cast and we're going to have to go out and we're going to get the cast and other things. and even and even there's going to be pay cuts of people are going to have to take who normally do it when when you're putting this stuff out there but you're selling it also on the passion of it you're selling it on the idea of let's see we believe in it enough and that's what people have responded to is the script everything else too and so what i want to do and i'm going to talk to with craig about and i hope you guys too when you put in in the questions because we're going to get Craig is also as i said he's one of us so he's going to be talking about the we're going to talk about the we're going to talk about um you know all the other topics that i brought up he's going to discuss that new stuff with me. And then he's going to join us for the questions portion of this. So one of the things that I've been talking to you guys about that I hope that while we have Craig here today, you will absolutely do this as well, is that if you're going to put in your questions at the end today, if there are questions about the Kickstarter and the things that you are curious about that you want to know about that Craig can obviously answer, please ask those today. And the other side

of that, too, is that I've been using you guys every day as the focus group, saying like what is it if you're going to donate you already know you're going to donate you want to be part of it like what is it that you hope that you're going to see inside this campaign and the other side of that is i'm on the fence i don't know i got to learn a little bit about more what is it that you want to see that can make you go okay didn't realize that that could be an option let's uh let's go there because that's why craig is here and that's where we're going to talk about these things um we're he and i today have a phone call with uh with uh with i haven't said you yet but with the director with the with the with the one of the producers we're going to be talking a little

bit more we're talking about stretch goals and other things and a whole bunch of other things that we have kind of coming up but um let me ask you this because i've been telling the audience that we're looking to launch like you know the september first second area how are we looking as far as that goes is that's still something you think is uh is going to happen um yeah 100 percent i i think we're We're definitely on track for that. You know, a lot of it is like, it's people who run kickstarters will tell you how exhausting it is, but a lot of the work is front loaded, right? So a lot of it is just preparing to make sure that the campaign is right, that the tiers are right. You just mentioned something that I fully agree with.

Like, you know, when we were doing our campaign, we had ideas of what we thought people would want, but we went straight to our audience. into our community and said like, hey, like, what do you want? What do you expect? If you're going to put down $100 or $50, like, what is valuable to you? Because you never want people to feel like you're taking advantage of them. But you also want people to feel like they're getting value. I, you know, when we first launched like our Patreon and things like that, I was taken aback by like, man, like, when you, when you have community and you're doing something as simple as giving somebody a shout out or, you know, highlighting a comment like it means a lot to people because they're invested in in these conversations

like um you're podcasting every day right yeah you you've been doing this for a long time uh for me even it's easy to forget like hey like you might that hour or two that you're doing you might be taking a really bad day for somebody and turning it around for them right and they And people want to repay that for you. When we go out to Comic Con, we meet people, we meet listeners. It's always a great reminder like, wow. Like, you know, people, I think, don't always take time to pat themselves on the back. No, some people pat themselves on the back too much.

But I think like it's just that recognition of community. And I think that's what you're doing. And through the questions today, people ask anything. We'll answer anything we can. And there's a really good chance we're going to get some ideas about. Okay, it seems like this would be a really great thing to add to the campaign. So it's just a positive experience. It's already been great, too, because they've already been given some great ideas and things that they want to see.

And we've also talked about a little bit, a little bit. And you and I can talk about this, that one of the things I've always liked, and you responded to it as well, was that once we get this thing launched and once we, you know, if we, when we hit the goal, that we're going to be offering people like an opportunity to really see how the sausage is made, you know, whether. it's being part of the casting sessions, being part of the, you know, being in the director's office, being in the producer's office, watching rehearsals and things like that, you're really going to be in the thick of it in a way that I don't know if a lot of campaigns have really done. No, and I think that's the most important part. Like I know for us, we actually had a tack Peter on our show last night. We had a great conversation specifically about the toy industry and how what they're doing at Mondo.

they're really inviting people in and they're getting you know they're putting their artists in the spotlight they're putting their designers in the spotlight a lot of these bigger companies you know the product comes out you like it you buy it but you don't know who made this who designed it who you know what was the process so um i i think movie fans in general like you remember when dvds first came out sure um what was it 97 98 yeah yeah uh and we started getting special features for the first time uh really uh yeah you know it used to be like we all remember like the george lucas interviews at the end of the star wars vhs uh but the first time you can get like a director's commentary like i remember i was like oh this is like this is amazing i get to hear the people who made this talk about

you know things that that i've been thinking about or seeing behind the scenes featureettes like um i don't want to lose that in in the world of tv and film and i and i think like um being an independent creator and having your own community and being able to invite people in from the start and say not only are you going to get a peek behind the scenes of how this is made you're going to be part of it your $10 or your $20 is literally going to help you make your dreams come true and help this community make dreams come true um and that's just like such a positive thing like the the joke i always make to you know whenever we're getting burnout on anything we're doing like the world's kind of a weird place and there's always a lot of chaos going on

and it's hard life is hard um so if you could do something positive that brings people joy and have them get involved like it's such a it's such a good thing it's a major reward look and the the one side of it of course is that it's like this dream this thing that we wanted to put together a thing we believe and we want to make it happen but when you and i were also going over like the physical aspect of what people still would want something yes they want to support they want to be able to see things but there's a physical thing as well too and then and i still some people say it was prince's positive some people say it was someone else i can't remember and i wish i could track it down with There was a fan who wrote the whole thing and came up with the phrase,

Our Show. And I was like, that's what it is. That's what it is. And so when we come up with the shirt or the hat or whatever it is of our show, I want people to wear that like a badge of honor because especially if the show goes to series and you're walking around going, that happened because I helped. That happened because I wanted to do this. I've been hearing this guy talking about this for so long.

And I didn't want him to have to go to, you know, know one of these networks and then say now change it do this you can't be in it you can't do that now they go look at my shirt i did this i'm part of it yeah yeah i mean and look one thing that's really cool about the medium of of television and is that it kind of keeps reinventing itself every year there's surprise like new shows that come out that like you know weren't on anybody's radar what was the one on apple uh the katy dipold show this year widows widows bay oh yeah um i didn't i didn't know what it was somebody's like you you got to watch this show and all of a sudden, I have a new favorite show, right?

Right. So it's like there's an opportunity here. And I would love to be able to watch your show and go, hey, I had a part and, you know, developing this. Yeah, 100%. And look, and the thing is, and as I told people, too, as up front goes, you know, we have to make sure. And this is where people also have to understand is what we say. When you do a campaign like this, especially with Kickstarter, you got 30 days really to make this thing happen, right? Kickstarter takes a percentage of it.

Craig is doing work. Craig will get a percentage of this too, right? Then everything else goes into making this show the best version of this show that we can get. And so when we're talking, you know, and we haven't even really gone over yet, Craig, but like with stretch goals too, we had mentioned there's a potential of like with, because if you hit something outside, like you guys did, if you double what you want to do, there's some potential for another episode. If you do even better. There's potential for a full season. There's potential for, for me, it's like, if you get, let's say, 100K more or 200K more than what you're going for, that opens up the possibility for music that you couldn't have licensed before. That opens up the possibility for

actors and actresses you couldn't go after before, locations you couldn't do before, equipment you couldn't have before. So there's always ways to benefit and use it. It's just the terminology that you have to use again, because the audience needs to. to know, okay, where is my 25 bucks going, buddy? Or where's my ex going? Where's it going? And if you tell them right away, they're going, okay, that's where it's going. Yep.

Yeah. And I think that when we launched the page, like we'll have a really good breakdown of, you know, this is the budget. This is where every dollar is going. This is like, it's going to casting. It's going to locations. It's going to equipment. And yeah.

And if the campaign takes off and the supports there, and we are able to like, you know, bring in more than expected. Like all that does is make the show better. It's a better, you know, whether that's, like you said, actors that were maybe not in budget before or locations or whatever. All it can do is help. The only thing I'll say is like, I mean, everybody knows. It's very expensive to do anything.

It's expensive to go to the grocery store, right? So making a TV show of this quality is extremely expensive. expensive. But by doing it this way, you're not sacrificing the, you know, the creativity and the individuality. And like, it can really be your voice, right? And it can be the vote. Like, when, when the community gets a chance to read the script or watch the pilot, they'll maybe pick up on, there's like an added bonus for them because they've been along, you know, with you on the journey. they might pick up on some of the the dialogue or things like that things that would I mean listen you take this to let's say you sold the script you took it to you know whatever production company

I mean they could rewrite it they could bring new writers they could replace you you know like right there's a million things that can those those things will happen so this is a better way to do it so we again so I wanted to introduce you guys to Craig and now you've met him I really hope that when when we get to the idea of the, when we get to the questions at the end, you can throw in some of those ideas, ask any questions, things that maybe he and I didn't think of so we know from you guys, because this is going to be like, again, 30 days for me, whether it's long streams from start to finish the day, whether it's going on other shows promoting it, it's going to be my life for just 30 days. You guys are going to hear about it and talk about it. We're going to

hit this goal. And I want you guys to do it with me. And I wanted to introduce you to to Craig. So, all right, we're going to go into the topics. But you know, even before I do that, let me, I'm going to play this because you guys know, so we have my, my friend, Ming, who's on this channel, his son helped me redesign this studio. He has been, he's a musician. He's really great. And I wanted to pay it forward to Val, who you guys, maybe have just known my name. But he asked me, say, listen, I'm a musician. And I want to know if you play this trailer that I'm working on to the audience and I was going to show you guys. So check out this trailer from, from Bell. Shout out to Val. Thank you, Val. So you can check Val. I think we have

hopefully put the links in the description. You please send it through the email. So if we can be able to it. If it's on in there now, then maybe in a little bit. All right, we have a lot to discuss Craig and I. So let's get into you. I mean, you've been paying it. I know you told me you were going to see Spider-Man brand new day. You're seeing it tonight. Tonight, yeah. so have you if you heard all the projections and stuff um the about the potential box office of what it's going to make so yeah yeah i mean i saw the the 800 number floating around uh last week um i i i know anecdotally like we were talking off air yeah it's sold out everywhere like we're in Atlanta like we've got you know there's 25 theaters within 10 miles of me and it's

playing every half I mean it is sold out for the next three four days so whatever number I don't know if it's going to make 800 million opening week in worldwide but I think it's going to do very very well as well that that but that is you bring that up I don't even know what the real answer is as far as one point people the projectionists were saying 500 to 550 I guessed in that 515 area. And then yesterday there's a report of 800. So this is the latest. Right now, Spider-Man, Brand New Day, box office tracking and budget revealed as spoiler-filled clips flood social media. We're not going to read any of that. I'll make sure that we don't get to the spoiler if there's any spoilers inside of that.

But let's see what they're talking about as far as projection. Leak clips started hitting social media. Brand-new day is on track for a massive opening weekend at the global box office. The movie's production budget has also been revealed. Spider-Man, brand-new day will silence the superhero fatigue. Contention this week with a projected 465 million global debut, according to deadline. As we warned, 800 million opening projections were a little too ambitious for this one. 465 million would mark Sony's second biggest worldwide launch ever, was Spider-Man No Way Home, still at number one, with 600 million start.

However, tracking's all over the place. North America, pre-sales are around 80 million, which is ahead of its previous movies, 78 million, while 195 million is the current, expected domestic bow, some believe it could swing into as much as 250 million. In terms of worldwide openings, post-COVID, Spider-Man Brand New Day, will sit behind only Spider-Man, No Way Home, and Zootopia, too. Spidey is getting a big boost from China, where it's eyeing a $45 million opening hall,

despite strong competition from the local title of belief. Context, more than Toy Story 5 is made throughout its entire run in the Middle Kingdom. According to the Hollywood Reporter, Spider-Man Brand New Day could wrap up its stint in China with a massive 255, meaning the movie could easily surpass one billion in a matter of weeks. The movie reportedly had a 225 million production budget. It's not too bad, all things considering. However, as we write this, I'm not going to do that. No, no, no, no. I don't want to get any spoilers. It doesn't say spoilers, right? Okay, no. Right. So I want to make sure.

Okay. So that's, that's really enough as far as the production goes there. But I still think that this movie, I think it's somewhere in the middle, right? I think I think $465 is low. I think $465 is low, but I think that, 800 is high that 800 is high when we're talking about yesterday i'm sticking with my prediction i'm saying 515 to 550 for this movie um i don't know how you feel if you feel that's a different same no i mean i think the anytime you have a movie tracking like this and and you can kind of feel it before it comes out right like they're all all signs are pointing to this is going to be massive right uh i mean first of all spider man is has overtaken i believe uh

uh, Batman as the, the, the, Batman's my favorite. My number one, my number one guy, as they say. But Spider-Man is the most popular, uh, superhero. Just, just, he just is. Yeah. I think people are desperate for the MCU to kind of return to glory days. Um, and, uh, also the Tom Holland Spider-Man, like, those are three for three. I, I think those movies are great. I thought, no way home is like the most fun I've had in the theater in the last 10 years, maybe. So awesome. So I just think, as, it's been a weird year for IP, like we saw what happened with the Mandalorian and, you know, other other movies maybe not bringing in what, what the studios would want. But then Toy Story obviously does great. What's happening with Odyssey is awesome. It just feels like culturally, like half of America is about to turn, half the world's going to turn up for Spider-Man this week. Right. I mean, it certainly seems that way because like they're, it's getting hyped up. I don't know where it's, where it's, where it's, where it's. stands on rotten tomatoes net right now and check it out but like yesterday it was kind of back and forth it like oh now it's back in 91 it's back and that's crazy for the fourth movie and also people like

anytime a superhero movie comes out you start hearing about superhero fatigue and this and that and there's that you know half of the internet is ready to just pounce um but you know these movies are are really great and i haven't seen it um but I from what I've heard non-spoilers uh it's great so it's it's really really good I really enjoyed it I think that spider man I think as you were saying before I think spider man's a little bit more teflonish when it comes to the audience than say a lot of other superhero movies now in comic movies I think you really have to deliver with especially if you're an unknown comic book movie people are I think fatigued in a certain aspect sure I think that when it comes to these movies

they've been consistently good as you're saying like all of them especially the tom holl ones have been consistently good and Spider-Man's always been popular. So, and I do think you're right where it leads into that whole, okay, if this one's good, then maybe I can get back on board with this stuff again, if it's all relevant, or maybe they just come in for Spider-Man and that's the end of it. Doomsday does well, because, again, it carries the Avengers IP. But what was you, you're walking around Comic-Con in San Diego, was there buzz about Spider-Man there when you were there or more people talking about Doomsday, or what was it

like there? So the the Obviously Marvel had the big hall each panel and it was is mainly focused on doomsday They had a big it was less Spider-Man and more Avengers right so they had a big Display with all the costumes from doomsday Various companies were revealing their doomsday product lineup And I think it's more of a timing thing like if Spider-Man was coming out in two months. I think there would have been a huge Spider-Man push but those tickets are already sold and

the hype is already there right um i i i thought they were going to maybe try to pull off like a surprise uh screening or something and debut i did too i did too um yeah but i mean there definitely was there's always a marvel buzz at comic con and and i think you know there was a lot of antit we we didn't go to the hall h panel um uh and i'm glad we didn't try because you know what a disaster what a disaster yeah um but uh you know it's comic con this is the audience and the MCU uh though it may be the the last couple years haven't been you know quite as as iconic or to the level of people expect it the what they've pulled off for the last almost 20 years is never going to happen again right um and it is special

and if you're a fan of the comics and fan of these characters um i think there's reason to believe, especially if Spider-Man's great, which, you know, the reviews are great and the hype is there. I think there's reason to believe that the next couple years for the MCU could be a really nice bounce back. If they can hold this true and keep this kind of quality, if they can treat their other properties the way that they treat this one, this one is definitely the most mature. It's the most different at all the other Spider-Ran movies, but they, and there are jokes in it, for sure, but it also keeps itself grounded. And it, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, it takes itself seriously.

And I think that that's why I really responded to it. And I think that Doomsday is going to do the same thing and should. I think Black Panther 3 is going to do the same thing. What they do with Ghost Rider, maybe it's the same. Maybe they, maybe they,

because traditionally Ghost Rider isn't really a comedy. Right. With Sean Levy attached, you know, the questions remain, will it be more of a comedy? I think that it shouldn't be. I think they should kind of go more. And look, he's stranger things.

He's shown he doesn't have to just do comedy. Right. So if they can stay in that level and get things serious, and then you get the X-Men, which kind of brings me into my next topic, because that's going to be, we've been saying that for a very long time, that what Marvel is setting themselves up to do

by putting themselves in the success run that they are lined up to do right now with these five to six movies, with the two Avengers movies, Black Panther, Ghost Rider, Spider-Man, and then whatever else that are coming out. And then you're going to go into the X-Men. So if you have those five movies beforehand, then running into the X-Men,

you're really putting yourself in a position that you can get back on track because everybody wants to see a new iteration of the X-Men and seeing how Marvel's going to do it. Oh, my God. I mean, Kevin Feigy was talking about it. He did a bunch of press after the panel. but they have such a wealth of X-Men stories to pull from.

And it almost feels like they want to set up the X-Men as like its own corner of the of the MCU and really make it its own saga. I'm glad you brought that up. They have a plan right now. And I think that, you know, I don't think we're going to be seeing a lot of the B or C-List characters really propped up with their own shows and movies i mean obviously we're going to still get vision quest yeah and i know they're talking about doing a nova movie and there's going to be other stuff but you are going to see marquee uh characters um like you said black panther three is going to be giant yeah x-men's

going to be huge the you know the rousseaus haven't made a bad mc uvue movie yet i know so i'm i'm my and adventures end games literally one of my favorite 10 movies of the last 25 years i it's i love that moment i've seen i've seen it's i've seen it's so many different times. So with the X-Men, then it's going to be, as it is inevitable, as Thanos says, we are going to be getting the casting rumors, and it's already starting. And so Cooper Hoffman has been rumored as so many other people have them, or Cyclops, but he's been doing press for his new movie, and they ask them, obviously, as people do,

they ask them about the rumors. nothing's been officially announced yet Marvel Studios was reportedly assembling the cast of its X-Men reboot and official announcement could be made as soon as next month in D23's event as the movie is expected to be released in 2028 alongside Black Panther 3 and Ghost Rider several names have been thrown out uh thrown around rather with Charles Melton and Kaylee Spaney supposedly locked in as Beast and Rogue I do like that Kaylee Spaney Spey choices rogue a lot uh Adam Driver is expected to play the evil Mr Sinister while Cooper Hoffman has been named as the frontrunner for the role of Cyclops. The actor best known for standout performances in Lickrish Pizza Saturday night and the long walk would be an exciting choice to play Scott Summers.

Now he's finally broken his silence on the rumors on the red carpet for I want your sex. He said, oh, not going to be me, but I love the X-Men. Not for any reason. It's just not, I don't know where that came from. Shit spreads, of course, I would be interested. The fans don't have a say, but I wish they did. I love X-Men. I've been watching since I was a kid.

It would be such an honor. do we believe him? It's a firm denial, but so is Paul Ruds when he said he wouldn't star an Ant Man over a decade ago with that in mind. It might not be too much to put stock in the rumors. Yeah, I never believe actors when they say these things. Right, yeah, yeah.

Never. They can't. Why? Because if he is, and he says that it is him, and he says no comment, you know, better to say no. Like, there's been tons of people have said, I'm not in this movie.

I'm not part of it. I'm not, it happens all the time, yeah. It's BS. you can't a lot of the time sometimes it's true but you can't you can't really who knows so no i don't take what he says uh seriously because the other side of it is maybe they haven't made a decision yet um as far as who they want or who they're even considering bringing in but he could be on a list this things happen right there's a list of the top three people marvel wants that they haven't even got out to yet

yeah and someone leaked the list and he and him and his team have no idea i don't know that i mean grant i don't know where it came from it came from a leaked list it was like so you don't know about i think he'd be great one of the reasons that i think could potentially make sense is now that they announced david johnson as uh as as as tchalla junior and they have such great chemistry from you know their uh their time in long walk did you see that movie yeah yeah yeah i've seen a lot of uh cooper's stuff i mean licorice pizza yeah i mean awesome saturday night he was great he was great he's a he's a great actor i mean listen i i would be lying I don't I'm not going to be the person who has like a dedicated X-Men fan casting list.

Yeah, yeah. But I think when there's smoke, there's fire and there's probably, you know, it could have been as simple as we're looking for a Cooper Hoffman type, right? And the name goes out. But he's great and he's viable. And, you know, I think there might be something there. Yeah. We're going to hear a lot of different names. 100%.

He's on a list in the same way when all the Superman casting was going on. And don't forget, even when it comes to casting, even when it gets real close, when it gets real close, it doesn't mean it's a done deal. And I bring up Joaquin Phoenix for Dr. Strange. That was a done deal. It was what I was saying. Done deal. Right. And then by the last minute, didn't want to commit to a long MCU journey.

See you later. In walks, you know, Benedict Cumberbatch. Now, I just recently watched, and I can't remember with our old Shmows no shows that we did. and Ken Napsock used to do the news and what I can't remember which show it was. It might have been from one of the Shmodown shows. And he was talking about the Dr. Strange thing said that Wakina just left. And the three names that were now considered was so and so, so and so and been in a cover badge. And, you know, that's and you're watching it 12 years ago, watching it, you know, 12 years when it happened.

And then you're like, oh, these lists happen, these things happen. Cooper will wind up in something. And whether or not psychop time will tell. Yeah. I would say the we're in a day and age two of there's really great reporting going on. And I know it's hard because like when there's all these Twitter accounts and everybody's got, you know, everybody says it's going to be this, it's going to be this. And then everybody questions it. But there's really great scooping out there.

And some of it is dead on. So I would say, like I said, when there's smoke, there's fire. I think there might be something there. I'm going to move on. Speaking of Black Panther, I don't know, the other trailer that dropped, I was a big Thomas Crown fan. Okay. The one, this would be the second remake, I guess, but I'm not the Steve McQueen, but I was, I was a fan of the Pierce Brosnan and René Russo one. So they dropped the trailer today for the Michael B. Jordan, Adria Hona one.

And I didn't realize that Michael B. Jordan was directing this. And they just dropped it. And I really, I like, I like kind of the. It's almost like a mission impossible feel to it meets like tenant inside of it. It was it was pretty interesting. So I'm I'm a big Michael B. Jordan guy. So I think that that movie to see what he's going to do and follow up, although I will say that Crete 3, I think he did a good job directing it.

But out of the three, it's probably my least favorite. And then in the Rocky movies, in the Panthers of Rocky movies, it probably ranks a little lower. But I thought he did a great job as, as, directing so I'm curious to see what he's going to do here yeah I mean I would first of all Pierce Brosnan René Russo I mean right about this is this is royalty yeah I have to watch the trailer for Thomas Cronifer it makes sense though right Michael B Jordan seems like he's poised to kind of carry like an action franchise he's just and I heard good things

coming out of cinema con from whatever footage was shown so I'm excited about it um again i'm a big rocky guy yeah uh i think creed's great i think michael b jordan's great even though creed three i agree but if you it's i think it's probably better than at least two of the rocky movies in my opinion maybe three i'll give i'll give it i give it better than rocky five okay my wife is a huge rocky five a fan we have go for it merchandise scattered around the house uh but yeah i mean michael I mean, he's, he's great. And, I mean, what, what happened with sinners and everything he's been in?

It's just been just so awesome. So I'm excited about that. I'm excited to see it. So, well, that's a good one that just dropped that trail. The other trailer that dropped, by the way, was, was Jumanji, the latest one. And this one, this is hilarious because our producer, Luke, sent me this today. And he goes, I'm very curious to hear what she thought about. Luke and his lovely wife, Audrey.

They did not like the trail. but he said he was getting some shit from his fans. So I'm like, well, let me see. I'll see where I side. Do I side with Luke? Where do I side with his fans? Well, I'll tell you, first of all, let's just bring this up here.

And the first trailer for Jumanji did drop. And it was a little different than the other movies. Ahead of its attachment to Spider-Man, brand-new day in cinema, Sony Pictures has premiered the trailer for Jumanji over the world, the project marks the third entry into the revived franchise, four technically, I guess, right? With the studios, four include the Robin Williams one, stating this will be the last after-2017's Jamonji, welcome to the jungle, and 2019's Jamalgy the next level.

In the new film, the players have escaped the ever-changing jungles of Jamongy, but this time the game breaks free of its console. The core quartet of Dwayne Johnson, Kevin Hart, Jack Black, Karen Gillen are back, as are their players, Alex Wolfe, Madison, Isman. Morgan Turner and Sardarius Lane. Okay, so I saw this trailer, and I'm going to tell you that I side with Luke's fans. I liked this trailer. I enjoyed this trailer.

I like that it was different. I like that they, I don't know if I'm going to, if I'm going to dig the Rock's accent the entire time. I think Danny DeVito, not Danny DeVito, Jack Black had a better, had a better accent to do. I don't know if I'm going to buy the rock doing that one the whole time, but we'll see. I like the premise and the idea that they're the avatars from the game having to exist in the real world, kind of turning it on its head a little bit. I think that could be fun. I don't know.

But it could wind up being a complete shitbox. But for me, I liked what I saw. Yeah. I did not enjoy the trailer much. But listen, I understand. Dan, look, I think I saw the first Humongy, I didn't, or obviously I've seen the first humongy, but I saw the

one, the first one of the Rock and Jack Black, and I didn't see the second one. Second one I bailed on. It's interesting to me. I know Sony is trying to dig into these franchises and these IPs. And listen, maybe this movie comes out.

Was it come out? December. December comes out about a week. It only has a little breathing room. Before Dune and Dunestay Swallow. it up yeah i i think this could be the the uh the final boss yeah uh of the of the of the of the of the jimanii franchise although i was reading this article recently about how wb e fans i'm a huge wrestling guy yeah uh the people who want the rock back in wrestling have been very happy with what's going on with his latest run of uh of uh box office so yeah i don't know uh i i i don't

My nephews are seven and four. I feel like that's target audience. And Jumoji's not on their radar at all. Yeah, I mean, look, it's going to be tricky because the family, I was surprised. Look, I love the original with Rob Williams. Love it. When the second movie, or I guess the first in this franchise came out, I was like, why are they making this? And then I remember going to see it in the theater for a screening.

And the line that still gets me is when Kevin Hart goes, cake, my weakness is cake. like it just killed i don't know it killed me i loved that entire thing in the way that they did it then they went into trying to do too much where danny de vito is you know doing weird accents and so's the rock and they're both like no i don't know whatever the hell they were doing i can't i can't remember and i just bailed on the second one but then this one seemed to me like i like that they're switching it up a little bit but the question like you said is is there going to be stuff for families to go and watch during this time because Dune 3 ain't a family movie.

Doomsday, not really a family movie for people, you know, in the 10 and under range, maybe 9 in under range, you know, some, but mostly no. There's no big kids movie coming out that I know of. Normally there is like a Pixar or Disney movie or something coming out. I don't think there's really anything.

So Jumanji might have that benefit if people care. The problem is the Rock's star power, in the box office is diminishing a little bit and that does carry over to mainstream if they're like i don't know but maybe this gets them back on top i don't know we got uh looks like angry birds three when's that same week same week okay that could hurt that could hurt that could hurt yeah that could hurt um yeah you know it's weird i we went and saw anaconda around christmas last year another sony movie reviving a yeah weird ip and and that age shit too didn't it it yeah and it should have worked maybe paul rod jack black right it just didn't really work for me so it's um

we're in a weird time we're just in a weird weird weird time listen i it's jumanji right it's harmless it's harmless right yeah um but i don't know if i'll be like a day one ticket buyer yeah if that's a good good thing to bring up because i don't know i'm i'm looking forward to the press screening right i'm looking forward to going and putting popcorn on my face and watching that movie i don't know if I would necessarily drag the kids out of the house, go and see it, spend the money on seeing it and spend the whole time going. I'd have to, I'd have to listen and go, you know, the new one's pretty good. Right. I'd have to listen and go, all right, maybe there's something they'll take the kids to see. It's not one of those things. I'm like, I don't want to see no matter what, but I would,

I would sit back a little bit and wait to hear what the word of mouth is before I went and go and check it out. It's so interesting because I don't have kids, but like I said, I have nephews, and it's such a good barometer for what's kind of breaking through, right? So I'll ask I'm like, what do you, like my, my seven-year-old nephew, he, this year, he, he would kept talking about seeing the new scream movie. Oh my God. He did not go see it. And I don't think he, but it's just something about the ghost face mask that was kind of

breaking through the, you know, into his little. It's iconic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I don't know. Jumanji, there's a, there's going to be some competition this December. So we'll see. Yeah, we'll see how it does. So I'm curious what people think.

Put your thoughts in there. Let us know, you're going to be seeing Jumanji. Do you care? Do you not care? Put your thoughts in there and let us know. All right. I think, you know, for now, that's good for the main things that we covered here. I think that what I want to do is I'm going to tell you guys real quick about our friends over at Free Cash. And then we're going to come back. We're going to take questions for Craig. And again, if there's anything in particular with the Kickstarter that you want to ask, things that you want to know is we're getting closer. Please, I really do rely

in you guys. So anything you got, let us know. But here's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, free cash all right thank you to free cash make sure you go into the description and check that out helps out the show keeps us going all right got some questions and other things i'm going to do something little different with the questions as well to it once we get through it but um i um what else that i want to show you guys oh we're talking we're doing a on our channel my friend sam has never watched the star wars movies before so she was she was she was kicking and screaming watching now she loves it now she's super addicted to them and the one thing we did agree on is that this this kid's a little bastard.

Just a little bastard, kidster. Like, finish the race, of course. Leave your friend alone. You're blown up in two seconds. You're busting the kid's balls. This is a scumbag. Anyway, and then we also get Rokka's, we have actual

footage of Roka making a bet with me last week. You guys know what happened with Roka when we made the bet. Well, here's actual footage. it wasn't a fair bet. That's what's going to happen when it hits 91% and does and doesn't hit a billion dollars. Okay. So let's get into, let's get some.

There's going to be some questions here. Ron H got a bunch in there. We were convinced, Craig, that Ron H is actually Gary Busey. Oh, okay. Yeah, so solo today, OK, H, you better be San's pants. Let's eff and go. Thank you. Sam is a freaking treasure.

Fouca's. Thank you so much. Mello mix bringing in 440 Jules here. Thank you. So does write the article. Appreciate that as well. Ron H brings in a thousand, a magical cure for all, Furoca. 250 joules from Arwen, laughing disco. Thank you so much. Maddie B. 350K for a whole season just for the pilot, just for the pilot. I mean, that's, and that's, again, even for when you look at everything else that we do, and I also am going to bring in, by the way, the, when I have the director in here and when they're able to talk about a little more, get more of a clear-cut idea of that side of the business as well, too, with the other things that we're really aiming for, putting it towards.

So, Arwin, 550, say, hi-Jadder, we'll do. Ron H. Christian, someone suggested a Kickstarter for an antidote for Roka. Roka's got, Roka's got COVID right now, but it has to be delivered via Survange, Jan Brighton does it butt us. Go ahead, go and deliver it to him. Big Gill Studios. I am looking to do crowdfunding for my new superhero series. I know enough, but what else should I be aware of when launching my first Kickstarter?

great question for Craig um yeah i mean the the first thing i would do to anybody who wants to launch a kickstarter is go do research go find similar projects what you said superhero series i'm assuming maybe it's like comic books or something like that go look at um comic book kickstaters and really study what they did look at the campaign look at the look at the look at the tears look at what they offered, you know, a lot about, you know, having a built-in audience is a big part of it, but also that's not everything. But you can't just launch a Kickstarter and expect people to find it. So social media is a big part of it too, right? So if you're going to launch a series, make sure you have an Instagram, you have a Facebook, you know, start getting the information

out there because if you put all the work into the campaign and just launch the campaign, and nobody knows about it, you can't depend on people just kind of finding it by I guess that's a good, that's a good question as far as for the audience to know as well too when it comes to like for the campaign for our show is that because they're like, well, why September? If you guys are ready to go, then why September? Can you explain kind of what the process is as far as like what we need to do for us before we and why we're waiting until September to do this? Yeah, I mean, it's like any other project, right? So anybody who's ever, managed any kind of project big or small. There's just a lot of pre, you know, there's a lot of

prep that goes into it, right? You have to make sure that it's like building a website through the campaign builder and Kickstarter. So you have to make sure like aesthetically, listen, everybody who's watching this chat or watching the stream, they're going to go there day one, they're going to back and they're going to be good. But there has to be a page that has all of the information necessary, all the frequently asked questions. This is what this is. This is who's doing it. This is why we're doing it.

You need somebody to be able to go to that page who has no idea who Christian Harloff is and still get excited about the project. Because a lot of it is like word of mouth as well, right? You want somebody to back it and then you want them to get on their, you know, social media and say, hey, I just put 25 bucks or 50 bucks to this awesome project. I think my friends should check it out as well. So, but yeah, there's just a lot that goes into it. Like, if anybody's ever built a Kickstarter, you know that it's not the easiest system to work in from like a, it's not like you can just, there's no AI helper bot where you just go do this and it does it for you. It's still a very manual process to get all the tiers listed out.

Right. All the, you know, all the items, all of the, you know, the schedule in the graphics and everything else. So it just takes some time. But there'll be a, what's going to happen in the coming days is there's going to be a, um, what's going to happen in, in the coming days is there's going to. to be a pre-launch page where everybody can go and save the page and follow it. And that'll be the URL for when it goes live. So when would they start to be able to see when it comes to like tears, is that on the official launch day or would they even be able to see the tiers before that even happens?

We can, for the most part, that is kind of saved for the official launch. Yeah. But I'm sure, you know, for your audience, there'd be opportunity for for you to kind of go over that stuff, you know, on these streams. and that kind of stuff. Okay. And we can tease some of it out on the, like, you don't want the presave page to have too much information.

It just has just enough for people to be interested. Okay. And then like when you launch, because you want people to be, we want everyone to be excited about like, ooh, what's it going to be, right? Right. Drop a little breadcrumbs along the way. Makes sense. All right.

Let's see. Darkness, Forever vibes. 750, let them cook. Thank you so much. Ron H. I like Craig. Maybe you can help Kickstarter thing. me to finally get some decent pants. Let's go, Craig. My brothers are getting frigid.

I do hope it's Gary Bucy. I really believe that it is. I'm hoping to write and self-publish a book about my summer. Obviously, the Christian Olive Show in the community is a big part of it. I like to keep things Canadian. Do I self-publish with a Kickstarter help? You should do your own docket series, Ron. I mean, I'm sure there'd be a lot for the kind of adventures you get yourself in. 100% Ron H, maybe I should get in contact with Kooley. I have his book leaving for purpose on my Amazon. I love that you did that.

Everybody should support Kuli. He's the best. Maybe he should give me some advice. You know what? Reach out to him. He would. He's that kind of person. He absolutely would.

Page, I am a supporter of our show, and I'm going to put money on my guy. I don't need a gift for it. I want you to succeed him. I wish us to all to see you for Torchy Taco and a good time. And that's so appreciative. And I love that. But I also want to make short page inside of that.

gift side of it is more, it's like, it's for me, one of those things you'll be able to do is I'm sure you'd want to is you'd probably want to see like, oh, I wonder how it's progressing. I wonder what's happening inside of it. I wonder if I can visit, you know, and see like, oh, they have, they actually have like, a dailies or something or they have like, oh, there's a scene or a rehearsal or something or you can see this or this. And if you're investing in it, that's, I think it's more of like, so that way you can kind of see where, where it's going. I appreciate the support, but I also want you to have something, you know. Yeah, that's a super good call out because it's like, um, a lot of the times with, with like what we did on our Kickstarter is like it's toys. It's like a physical product. But really, a lot of this is the experience of, of get, it's the access and saying, I'm part of this community. Yeah. I'm investing in it. And in return, um, I get to kind of be along the way on the journey. It's really cool. Uh, Joseph Ashley. Um, how about it here you get your, mascot big balls t-shirts without balls or just face on a shirt maybe keychain stickers or toy figure or rabbit paw you know the thing is joseph i think that you might be the only one that buys it

joseph joseph does the great work for um big balls but i don't know if he's at i i guess we'd have to do a for for the audience we have to see what they'd want to do because i mean there he is and he's he's he's singing his songs right now but um but i don't know i don't know that's it's something that's interesting i mean we could put it as a potential but I don't know if a lot of people would would want big balls. I'm not sure. All right. Little Yankee.

And Joseph, by the way, not on your, and your art is incredible, but I'm talking more so about because he's a bit, he's a bit polarizing. The little Yankee, happy hump day, all, per usual, listening while listening live while getting ready to run errands. Great to meet another Craig like me. Thank you for helping our show. Thank you, little Yankee. Appreciate that.

Preston Walden. Unclear. Ned Stark 97. The Odyssey leaked online today. Do you think that now that will push Spider-Man's box offices we can even hire now? I think that it'll clip into it a little bit, but I think most people, though, that really want to see The Odyssey, want to experience it on the big screen.

I don't think, you know, leak, it's maybe someone who's seen it already or something else too. Or someone who was just so adamant about not seeing it. I think that it's more so people that really want to see it in the theater. That's the whole reason that they're sold out all the place, people want to experience it on iMacs did you see it yet Craig yeah uh loved it yeah yeah did you see it on iMacs no i uh i watched the leaked one just kidding uh i uh not imax yeah i uh yeah i watched it on my phone in the bathroom um yeah uh i saw right before the show

right before the show it was great i'm like halfway through don't tell me what happens yeah um i not i max but i did get to go to a 70 millimeter screening at the that's cool theater in it layman who's awesome That's great. Yeah, and it did leak before today, by the way. Then they shut it all down. Right. Again. I don't know. Casey, Tenjul thumbs out.

Thank you, Casey. The Lil Yankee. I'm locked in regardless, regarding the $25 Kickstarter like I bought tickets for a brand new day for tomorrow, six weeks ago. Regarding the tiers, I want to see apparel, behind the scenes, accessibility, attending the premieres, and credit mentions. I think we have all those in there, right, Craig? Yeah, for sure. I think you're going to be really happy with. with some of the stuff.

Yeah, I think we've got a lot of those types of things playing for sure. Ron H. J. Jumangi, open world looking good for me. There you go. Thank you. Armada. I watched Nirvana, the band, the movie last night, really fun. I heard this is really good. I didn't see it, though.

The director did it? Oh, did he really? I loved Blackberry. And the upcoming Tony Anthony Bordine, my biopic. Okay, I mean, I've heard really good things about this. Have you, have you, A, heard of this movie being seen it, Craig? I have not seen it. I've heard really good things.

Yeah. Yeah, it's on my list. So, yeah, the Lil Yankee continued blessings, jens, thank you, Lily Yankee. Ron H, I'm going to laugh my ass off if Kevin Smith refuses to watch Christian's pilots, since Christian refuses to watch Mrs. Pilots, not I'm refusing to watch this pilot, just I don't have the time, even though Hollywood is free, barely 30 minutes, and he's on YouTube. All right, fine, I'll watch it eventually. But, you know, the funny things I'm probably going to have, he's someone I would definitely reach out to eventually do something with the show.

For sure. Yeah. Joshua, have you seen once? It's great. A good one for today. No, what's once? I don't know that one. You got to let me know which one that is. Ron H. Still advocating for a super tier where that person gets a Schmodeon challenge against one of the crew, even Roka, assuming any of them are up for it. Come on, who doesn't want a school Roka? But that's the thing is you got to remember Roka's not involved in this So I would have to basically say Okay Roka you haven't played

In the Shmodown in forever long enough So he wants to compete against you I don't think I don't that won't be a tougher one to do Yeah it's not a bad idea It's fun It's fun But yeah it gets a little harder when you're You're getting people outside of the actual production

But you got to schedule There might be something there Maybe maybe something to try to do like if people who want to do it or people who are involved. I mean, like, we used to do these things back in the day that were really popular on our Patreon that I just simply ran out of time in order to do. And we would do, I would do half an hour one-on-one sessions with people who signed up for the tier on the Patreon.

And it was great. I got to meet a lot of good people in doing so, but it just timewise was hard to do. There is something to be said about doing things like that that's included too, were, you know, one on time with me, with the potential with the director, with martini, with whoever else, that's all stuff that's on the table. 100%. Yeah. Jason.

Craig Goldberg over the Odyssey over Broca. Craig, uh, Jason has a beef with both the Odyssey and Roka clearly. So there you know. Yeah, yeah. I don't know Roka personally, but I am a fan of what he does and, and I watch the hot mic. Oh, no, nice. Yeah.

Those guys, those guys are great. Yeah, they, uh, they certainly, they don't, don't, uh, have problems. holding their their opinions no no i kind of i like it yeah exactly john patriceza what's your go-to song to start the day you know i just have like a playlist that i that i'll just put on and randomly whatever songs pop on you know i just it just depends on the mood i'm in how about yourself i don't think i have a go-to to start the day um but i it's usually something for my youth um like some old like uh some some my favorite like blink 182 or saves the day or something like that just something to kind of get me pumped up or if I'm battling the if there's anxiety or anything going on in my head.

I really like the explosions in the sky theme from Friday night lights. Oh, that's cool. Just kind of puts me in a mellow place. That's cool. I like that a lot. Jason, Costco on the 4th of July over the Odyssey over Roca. He's going to have a few bangers. He's been doing that over the last couple days.

It's pretty good. Ron H. Odyssey on a phone. Laptop, not awesome. Chip. Sorry, Clipchamp Razor. Sound like your Kickstarter is in good hands. It is. Did a successful one in 2014, but it was a smaller scale. One of the things that helped me was media in the niche picking up and writing articles about it.

You know, it's probably something I'd probably do. Speaking of which, I'd probably send it to Jeff Snyder, you know, like to let him, let him tell people about it. I'd reach out, probably maybe to Berto over at the rap, let him know about it. that's a really good idea by the way and more people that I would kind of reach out to. And there are going to be places that I try to reach out to in general to see if not only articles or anything, but like I said, I haven't like I went to school with and he mentions me quite, quite often in some of his podcast, but I'll reach out to Burke Kreisher and see if there's something I could do with him.

It doesn't mean that it's going to happen, but we still can try for these things. Well, a lot of it's just kind of reaching out, right? and yeah that's all it you know and like because we that happened with us we did one of the figures we did we did a bat boy action figure oh okay bat boy from weekly world news yeah yeah um we yeah and we got picked up but we got it's a licensed figure first time ever and we got picked up uh fangoria and dread central both did nice articles on it so it was i i want one of us oh you dude you're in i want you're in on bad boy you know because bat boy is one that it's it's kind of sentimental to me i didn't know you're doing that and he said it's it's really great um because

my dad and I was always laugh when we were at we'd see those at the supermarket like the the world weekly news yeah yeah and my dad be like what's going on bat boy now like so that's really good i would love i would i would love one of those yeah i mean it was we kind of had this idea um and um i sent you a link in the private chat if you want to check it out uh we had this idea like when we were early on because we're doing you know we've got yety and mothman and bigfoot and alien grays and in the future we want to do you know jersey devil and and Jimothy and everything. So,

but we're like, what if we did a bad boy figure? That'd be hilarious. We reached out. Peltie, do me a favor. Grab the picture off of that article that Craig just sent

and put it in the, yeah, the second one, the second photos got the full thing. We were like, let's do a weekly world news. Let's reach out. And they were totally down.

I love that. I've definitely won one of those. Okay, let's see. Jason Copian's aim versus the audacity. Come on. Okay.

Come on. Ronnie. We now have video proof. Okay, it's going to watch Holly Week. We'll see. We'll see. Trey Porter, what's up, Trey? I was thinking about your reaction to Warrior with Sam and would like to recommend the fighter to her. In my mind, they're two sides of the same coin. I'm going to guess that Sam has seen the fighter.

I'm going to guess. Text Sam. Let's see. Okay. Perfect. Text Sam. Hey, have you ever seen the fighter with Mark Wahlberg and Amy Adams? I'm going to say that she's 100% seeing those.

That's because Warriors is a little more unknown. I think that one she saw about what made me wrong. Johnny Petrieza has an online debate about a film ever put you off seeing it. The childish arguments around the honesty was one reason I skipped it. No, not really. If I am interested in a movie, I don't really, I try to pay attention not what people are saying. I don't know why I said that like Yoda, but still, I think that when it comes down to, if I'm interested in a movie, I want to see the movie, I see the movie and just form my own

opinion on it, you know? Yeah, for sure. How about yourself? No, not not the discourse around it. I mean, obviously all the stuff of the Odyssey was ridiculous. I have fallen victim to when something gets so overhyped, I'm just so sick of hearing about it. That's fair. You know that it's like I'll see it when I see it, but I don't have the energy right now. Totally fair. For the most part, I don't let the discourse get in the way. As I thought, Sam said she's she's seen it I thought so Ron H now I will get Christian to watch Hume instead of me no chance Jason Maynard general hospital over the odyssey of a road back for general I mean general hospital oh my god Johnny Betrizza today

it was Hotel California but my two-year-old wanted baby shark I'm in charge though so only after five repeats I'll finally put on my song yeah that's what it might look my my youngest is a nightmare when it comes to songs in the car we finally came up with this great system because she would just want the same she listens this nonsense like i don't even know where she finds all this stuff but she was like she kept requesting these songs and finally i'm like you know what everybody in the car gets one song and then that's it and then so we'll get her luckily her songs are only like a minute and a half but they're just they're brutal they're really brutal but yes it's it's tough but i'm glad you have a song

jac jason warm diet coke over the odyssey over the road uh scarty it's very generous scar Thank you so much for that wonderful donation. That's very kind of you. Hello, new Avatar. The last Airbender movie came out. I would love to see a reaction with anyone to the show. It rivals Batman the animated series. And there's some of my favorite character arcs in fiction.

Are you a big avatar last bender guy? No, that's not really in my wheelhouse. I love Batman the animated series. Yeah. So the reason why I would probably say Scars, it's unlikely, is a couple different reasons. One, I don't know what the copyright side of it is too, because of the thing.

I don't think, it's not anime, though. I don't think so. So it should be all right. But it's also got such a deep, rich lore that I wouldn't even pretend that I would know. I mean, the question I guess I would ask you, Scars, can someone just jump into it, not knowing much about it? I mean, I know the basics about last Airbender, but I don't know. Is it is, and I'm assuming this is animated, not live action.

Right, right. Right? I mean, they did that horrible Chamelon movie that was just, just got off. There's that. Well, and then there's a live action show. Right. Right. Um, our friend, uh, Paul, Paul, Paul Sung-Youngly for another channel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Um, but yeah, it's just not my, not my wheel. Yeah. Yeah, no. All right. Here's, that's amazing. That really is amazing. I love that much. Thanks, man. Yeah, we got, we got a two different. We got the classic head and then kind of the cryptoid version. And then there's also a black and white version. Uh, if you want the more tabloid. I'm specific. I love it. I'm going to send that to my that. All right, let's see. Next one is Jason Maynard, Burt Kreiser shirtless over the Odyssey and Roca, thank you. The team of been waiting for, but following you

both for years. So that's great, Ryan. I love that. Craig's Ghostbusters content is great, excited for what the future brings. Yeah, me too. And we thank I thank Attack Peter for kind of somebody asking, like, how you guys met? That's how to attack Peter. Ron H. Baby Shark, do-doo, do, do,

Jason Maynard, the ultimate fighter over the Odyssey Rogue. Look, man. Ultimate Fighter is the reason I'm, I mean, I'm buddies with Matt Sarah now. Love the Ulster Fighter. Matt Force, seven. If interested in the movie, I am the go to the movie I Will. What's that?

Well, I think it was the question earlier about a, oh, oh, yes. That's exactly what it is. If he's interested in the movie, that's the same thing, same thing. Nathan Drake, worst sequel, Christmas Story 2, Vacation, 2015 are Dumber and Dumber 2. They're all terrible. Hold on. I will defend. Okay, this is going to sound blast.

Which one you're going to defend? I kind of like the 2015 vacation. I can't compare it to anything Chevy Chase did, but there's something. That's the Ed Helms one, right? Yeah. Yeah. I remember seeing the theater and just wanting to go on it. I'm going to kick off the channel.

We actually, dumb and dumber two is not great. They're all, they're all terrible. They're all terrible. There might be some moments. I think Chris Hemsworth was funny in vacation, if I remember correctly. But I don't, I mean, I just, I was such a big vacation, European vacation, and Christmas vacation. I love, I love Vegas vacation stinks. But, but, but yeah, I just, you know, I just, I'd like the more.

I did like it that was a sequel, not a remake. Right, right. For sure. But yeah, I mean, the worst, though, but here, here's, here's, what I'll say, though, to defend Craig here, out of the three of those, it's the best. Out of the three. Thank you. I would say vacation and dumb and number two in the Christmas story. Dummond number two is so heartbreaking because there's, you can see there's something there that could have been really great. 100%. I've, I've done long diatribes about why it didn't work. So, Ron H. Back in the day, I blasted a CNC music factory. Do you want to get funky on repeat? My parents probably hated being funky.

from that point on L. That is one of the things, too, that you play a song, even if it's a good song enough, you can definitely hate that song. Right, right. You do that. Yeah. Driving to the ground. Darth, Husser, hey, for the Kickstarter, if you do a shirt, can you try to have a big and tall size available? That's a good, that's a good question too. I'm a big guy and I wear 4x LT and I love to have an R show shirt. Thanks and can't wait for the pilot. That's actually great to bring, thank you, Darth, for doing that because even when we did Shmodeon, we always had to be aware of all sizes, right? Because people who, who really want to support in general and have those memories.

You've got to make sure that they're accommodated for it. And people have also asked, as another thing, too, Craig, and you brought this up on our phone call was like international viewers, too. They're going to want some stuff. And we're talking to, and I think you and, I can bring this up now.

So you guys remember Aaron Wilhelm. Aaron was a competitor on the Smodown, but he was also the editor of the Shmodown for many, many years. And a very good friend of mine, he runs a merchandise company. And I put him in touch with, Craig and he's going to be making the our show shirts they just they're you guys are connecting soon yeah we're going to connect soon and yeah that that won't be a problem we'll make sure they're

basically how it'll work is if you get one of the tiers or one of the add-ons to get a shirt um you'll probably either note your you know it won't have like all the size options there that's something we will once we fulfill we will reach out and you know perfect make sure so jason mcrib over the odyssey over rocca uh armada did roca kickover being in the Trojan horse. No, I don't think he got, that's not how he got it, but I can't imagine how many people must have gotten sick in that thing when that happened. Oh, yeah. That was fiction. Tough stuff. Yeah. Uh, D.L. D.L. Schroar. 2417. I think you all should watch the Avatar last pair bender show with

someone as reactions. A lot of creators online get huge audience that's reacting. That doesn't work for my channel I have found. I have a very different audience. I've tried things like that before with certain things. And it just doesn't, it doesn't work. Yeah. Doesn't work. It's like people like, I can try it.

No one will watch it. No one will watch it. And I tried. I mean, people are like, oh, everybody's watching demons. We watch it. And we watched it for a bit. It did fine.

But then the, the people who own it, not only like, sometimes people will put a copyright strike and you got to take, not cover a strike, copyright claim on it. And you got to. Right. Share the revenue. And yeah.

They just put a full on strike on it right away without even allowing any any edits or anything to and blocked the entire thing. And I'm like, well, the hell with you guys. I'm like, I'm a raving about the show. Right. I'm not going to promote your show. Then get lost. And I won't do anime now because it's too tricky. Nathan, Drake, Jason Maynard.

What should Rokas, what should Roka play in Christian's pilot? Let's see, let's see what Jason says there. Dumbent number two over the Odyssey over Roka. That's his answer. Um, page. Hey, don't mess with general hospital. Started in 1963 and started going strong as a better consistency in DC management. Oh, man. I don't think he's messing with it.

I think he's saying that he likes it better than anything else too. He gave it, he gave it some love. Ron H. B. What was it, B Bros. 2000 and great tunes, though? Blues Brothers. Blue Brothers 2000. I pitched in the chat that it was my least favorite sequel or one of my least favorite

thing. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Armada. Will Finstock be in the show potentially? In the pilot, like I said, the goal for the pilot with casting is to make sure that because Martini and I are going to be pretty unknown to have people outside of you guys and everybody else, that we're going to try to build around us with people that are recognized.

The goal is once you get this thing to a series, then I have an opportunity to put in people who I know would be great for certain roles. Trey I watched the Thomas Crowner for your trailer real tenant vibes right Michael be Jordan and our hon are going to be a hot couple in this I mean they're they're two of the hot stars right now man it's a good one for sure Ron H I must educate myself on this stock of Finn you gotta watch the yeah just the Ron Finn stock is 100% I can tell you already without watching without you ever watching it Finn stock is your favorite character in Trout 100%.

All right, so here's what I'm going to do. We have, right now we have like two questions that are left in the, in the super chats. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to open it up today for the chat in general. I'm going to highlight comments to the chat while we have Craig here of everything that I see. And again, if it's stuff, not stuff that's backlogged, if it's stuff that's coming in right away, I'm going to highlight it. Questions for Craig that you want to bring in because like I said, I really need your guys input here about this stuff and questions. So Craig can, and things that I'm hearing

with him say that I go, oh, and I can start to get ideas. So here's two things here. Blaine, it would be awesome to see if you get on Dan Soder's podcast to promote the Kickstarter. He lives in New York and I think his audience would vibe with you. You know, I would have to probably reach out to Van Vleet, but I feel bad though because I don't want to be like, hey, Chris, introduce me to Dan.

You know, it's like, I can ask, I can ask Chris, but I mean, it's one of those things that probably just, I don't know. I like Dan a lot. I'm a fan. I think he's I think he's really talented and I'm I like his I like his vibe. He seems like someone he hit the comedy scene after I was out of it. So, but I'm sure he was someone I would have vibe with. Scar DDT. Just a note. Avatar in Nickelodeon, definitely not anime. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Wiley. What's up, Wiley? Wiley's a big music guy. So this is one of the things. Wiley be able to help, you know, down the line when it comes to like if we need to, you know, figure out things with music and stuff. He's great for advice and that kind of stuff. What are you most excited for in regards to the pilot? Besides just shooting the show, also, people, let's get that soundtrack level for the show. For me, I mean, there's a lot of different things.

One, the first thing in my mind that I really want to do is the accomplishment of all of us putting this thing together. On day one, day two, the inevitable conversations that Craig and I are going to be having where he's like, we're in good shape right now, this, this, that, or, hey, we need a little couple pushes. but accomplishing that goal knowing we're making a show and whatever level that is. If it's the lowest level of making a show or a highest level making a show, that's one of things I'm really looking forward to. On the performance side of things, tapping into this character and doing what I know this character is going to do to the audience. And then being able to, you guys saw I had martini on this show, you saw our chemistry,

we got a good vibe and see the two of us inside of this thing. And I guess that was the other thing, though, too, Craig, you know, when you, because you checked out the script and you looked at the, you know, as far as the vibe of it and knowing now you've been on the conversation with me and Martini, from the conversation that we have, you can see the two of us, hopefully, you know, as these two characters. Yeah, I mean, it's, to me, it's a home run. I mean, I love the script. It's very funny. It's the dialogue's fast-paced. It's witty. It's very of the time.

And I love it. It's coming from a world that you, you know. and understand and you bring people into the world very quickly um you guys are great i i think that you i think like no BS i think this has a real opportunity to be something very special um not just from the you know production side but from a kickstarter kickstarter side of things there's been some high profile projects over the last year to uh that have done very well independent films and then things like that and I think this can be there I mean I'll just be honest with the with the audience here like the first 72 hours first 48 hours are the most important piece

of the Kickstarter puzzle majority of your funding comes in the first two days in the last two days yeah it's just the way it works so the the goal here is to just get people excited and informed over the next month or so and kind of create that fever pitch until until we're ready to rock. But I think there's a really, really cool opportunity here. And honestly, it's a lot of work. Yeah. And I wouldn't have wanted to get involved if I didn't think, you know, I mean, there's only so much time in a day and we all have busy lives and projects that we're working on. And for me to get invested in it, I had to believe in it. You got to believe in it right now.

And that was, see, that was, and Craig, that was one of the major things. I don't know if I've told you this. I might as well tell you on air is that when we're going over and we were talking about this with director intervals too. We're like when we were before. And I think at that point, maybe Peter had put an email about, hey, you should talk to my friend. We hadn't spoken yet. But when we were talking to some other people, and I talked to a few people and I was like, you know, the one thing that we need to know is that the person has to be invested in it. and they've got to believe in it and can't just be a gig it's got to be something that they

disbelieve it and and that's what we we we got with uh with crack um johnny christian need to interview mr fantasy i don't know mr fantasy do you know who mr fantasy is no it sounds awesome you know that's a great name uh jason broke is a friend who disappears by episode two with no explanation and i had another answer but decided not to get banned thank you he just goes up the stairs like uh it's good just disappears family matters yeah it was like like the leftovers go pal i saw supergirl last night i really liked it i'm surprised the general level of vitriol is getting um so sam and i watched it yesterday sam thoroughly disliked it um i liked it less the second time than i saw um and the first time i watched it i said it's just forgettable it's not a

good movie but i don't think it's as bad as everybody else thinks that it is yeah did you see it no and i feel bad i'm i was i was as hyped as anybody else on on james guns do you see you um i really like james gun and i and i really think peacemaker is great i love both seasons okay uh superman thought was okay um i'm worried about uh what's going to happen with with that entire thing for a litany of reasons yeah we'll see oh you know funny we didn't even talk about it today was that the there's more with this whole warner brother yeah well so the bottom line is um it looks like there's and because the amount of money that i think for the deadline is but once they hit this particular deadline,

it doesn't go through the amount of money per day that Warner Brothers will get from Paramount is astronomical. And it almost made me think that Zazlov kind of had this plan in place where he's like, look, there's no war. Like if we sell it, we sell it, fine. But I don't think they're going to get this thing approved. And if they don't, we get X amount by this amount of time. Then we can just fund the movies we need to fund.

We'll have everything because we'll have Paramount's money. And it's almost like the Sun Tzu, art of war type in the long game here 100% I wouldn't be surprised he's not stupid he's a smart guy like what if what if this whole thing has been to let's take out let's take out our competition by bleeding them dry it's interesting I mean I've I've followed it really closely while it was all you know initially going down and all the Netflix stuff yeah but I don't know what's going to happen and how and then how it affects you know current and future productions is a whole other a whole other question. Yes, absolutely

is. I will say I'm a huge Matt Reeves Batman fan. Me too. All right, so we're going to, like I said, we have more super chats in here, but we're also taking, we're taking questions from all you guys today, so keep in coming. Sticks, when do we get to know the director? So very, very

soon. And this is one of the things that we're going to have the conversation. Craig's going to have a conversation with the director today, one of the producers today. And we just want to make sure that it's closer to the launch, right? So it's not like, there you go. And then when's the next time you're going to see the director? So we want to, we, the answer is soon within this and that's part of the strategy. So very soon for sure. Um, Ron H. Jason Maynard,

you two I likes Richie's brother and happy days. So cool. I. E. Did you have a stroke there, Ron? What's going on? Uh, Aidan. What's the timeline when you hit the goal? Like how fast we getting this pilot cranked out. It's a great question. So when I asked that same question to the director, Aiden, and they said, as soon as possible, like, basically, let's go. So, you know, hopefully, and that's a question for you, Craig, where it comes to, let's say we hit, let's say we hit a goal, let's say we hit the, the big goal of like 350, right? Let's say we hit that. And we, how long does that take normally to rise in? Because, you know, like we said, your fee gets paid down kick starter gets paid down how long before the creator actually sees the funds

after the campaign closes yeah i mean it's about 14 days okay um it's it's about two maybe two and a half weeks and then okay so look then let then that that means hypothetically oct to be the mid-october or something when that when that happens and then the prep would have to come i if i was to guess and and again the director will will tell us differently. If I was to guess, I'd say we're looking at December, January to shoot. If I was to guess, but you have to cast it and you have to do everything else too, and you'd have to move kind of quick. But it's a half an hour pilot comedy. There's not a lot of locations. It's so yeah, that's what I would guess. But again, when we have the conversation, please ask that, Aden, ask that same question to the director when I have

them on yeah i think it's one of those things there's there's a million variables that could you know it can and will happen but once you get through pre-production like the you know even big even i'm always surprised at how quickly studios can spin up these giant productions right um and you know when you don't you just hear about movies being made but like if you've ever been to a film set it's it there's just so many people so many people it's it's wild so yeah jason Mason Maynard, Mike Kalanowski, the Odyssey of Arroca. All right. Go pal.

Blues Brothers 2000 wasn't a great movie, but I listened to that soundtrack a lot of the time. I don't remember the soundtrack. I don't remember any either. Page, the great page. Question for the Kickstarter. Would you go to Rogan? I mean, look, I knew Joe back in the day. You know, I don't, I don't, he was always very friendly. We always had great conversations at the store.

I can't say that he were friends. I have a lot of my friends are friends with him. Like, he's Matt Sarah's good friends. I'm not going to ask Matt. do that and so probably not but I have other I have other things in that I'm working on to promote it and we actually have somebody else involved that eventually will be able to reveal that I think will be very helpful to to to that so Ioshi not that I mind paying for the tiers since I live in Puerto Rico would the shipping be covered or I pay for the shipping for merch or picks good question I don't know

the answer to that Craig do you know the answer to that yeah I mean for any of the physical items whether sign posters and t-shirts, there'll be some kind of built-in shipping charge. But we'll work to mitigate that. There's a lot of discounted shipping options now. Good to know. Great question. Thank you, Rishi, for asking that.

Aidan, can we browse the Kickstarter levels and benefits before it goes live? Yeah, I mean, we can figure something out. Like, we might make, the decision to have some of that live on the landing page um or like we said earlier like we maybe you can preview some of the what we did on our campaign is we did a live stream before we launched where we revealed everything um that's a great idea so uh and we did i think that we did that the night before is like a like a launch party oh that's cool maybe that's something look i'm planning on freaking

sleeping here in the office right right right a lot of different places so it's a grind but yeah yeah yeah uh That information will be out there. Yes. Jason, stubbing your pinky toe at 3. I'm on the way to the bathroom over the Odyssey, Supergirl, and Roque. Goodness. Clips, when it comes, what's up? Clips, when it comes to the show getting picked up, what will that process be like?

How will the reception of the pilot guarantee that? So also a great question, right? And another one, eclipse that please, please, when we have the director on, ask them when they're on, that question, right? Because they also have that kind of experience and other things. The first thing that were all, that I can assume they're going to say, is the same thing that I'm going to say is that you got to make sure that we really believe in the script. We got to make sure that that transfers over to everything that we shoot. And then,

as far as it getting picked up, that's going to then be me going, okay, here it is. Let me know what they say. You know, it's going to be like one of those things because then it's, then it's on those people, as Craig said earlier, believing in the team that you have and that part of the team that we do have a great team says we've got this thing now. Now, this is our job. Like my job right now is making sure that we make our show, that we had the funds to do it. I put together someone great to help us do that. I've, we're now, we're going to build that campaign out. Now I'm getting the production money for the production team. And then we have to go cast. We have to do everything else too. Get hype behind it. So that's the process will ever be changing. Um, Mike.

Moodro, what are your goals that the pilot is a success? And what do you plan on doing if you Kickstarter does very well? Well, the second part of it is the Kickstarter does very well, make the show. That's the ultimate answer there too. As far as what goes to the pilot's success is make the season. We have about five to six seasons mapped out. So that's kind of. That's awesome.

That's so cool. Ron H. I'm nugging out. How much of my last are the Christian Harlow show and how much is it just the weed? Maybe it's both. Who to Fook cares? Be laughing, bitches, weed and a harlough show hilarious. Thank you, sir.

Appreciate it. Will Armada, will hawk to a girl have a cameo? Not her per se, but I'll tell you, you know, Craig, as you read the script, there are people like that that have a place in this show. Yeah. Like, you know, even the people that, that, you know, are being interviewed, certainly have a place in this. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, it's reflective of the modern culture. Yeah. uh joseph ashley how much to make a big balls toy figure oh man you but you'd have to get a lot because you'd have to have to have some people like to want to buy so big balls is a character on the show that's a filthy chipmunk he's a filthy chipmunk who does you know he he says things all the time and and he hasn't been around as much lately but uh but he's uh he was around for quite a while but he's but he's hit or miss so i don't know well listen if you ever want to get to the point where you want to put a big balls action figure out we can make it happen but you're probably

going to need about a minimum of a thousand people at about 50 bucks a pop to break even so right oh well who knows maybe there's a fine find a thousand hardcore big balls fan we'll say page the highest amount should get a dinner with all you guys i mean that's i mean again that's i think that probably lands into the producer credits or whatever it is yeah i mean without giving stuff away there's there's a user level tiers that have very cool experiences tied to them. We can bring that up at the meeting today. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'll go to dinner with anybody.

Are we going to Outback? Like, I'll go to dinner. Right. True. Yeah. Jason Maynard, hanging out with SoulStylux and Mike Joyce over the Hauditsy and Roka. Armada. Has Craig ever made a collab with Attack, Peter?

It's a great question. So, Peter's become a great friend of ours. and he actually did a piece for us he did a shirt an original attack peter shirt for our cryptoid's campaign um so we were super grateful for that um yeah and uh you know i own a lot of his art and in the toys he's made and uh yeah he's he's great yeah uh it's just ryan what kind of tears are you guys thinking of sorry if it's a dumb question i'm new to the membership i love to know more about it it's not a dumb question at all no it's the question that you should be asking. Yeah, I mean, is there anything that you want to give them at all or we should wait?

Yeah, no, I mean, I think like, look, if you guys have followed any campaigns similar to this, like you kind of know what to expect, right? For each tier, there's going to be a certain amount of access that you're given, right? So it might be you pay $25 or $50 and you are given access to, you know, a dedicated private YouTube stream where all the updates are going to happen and maybe some some other stuff right um sorry kill that my phone was right um and and then from there it's like there might be another tier where it's like not only do you get that access but you're also going to see some of the casting process right you're going to be you know be privy to you know conversations right and each time it goes up there's a little bit more access one then there's like there's going to be

a signed poster and the t-shirts and all sorts of stuff and then when you get into the the the bigger tiers there's things like producers credits and maybe an opportunity to be involved in the show in some capacity. So we're in the process of finalizing everything, but it's really, really cool stuff. And I think if you are a, if you're a Christian Harloff supporter fan, there's some amazing opportunities for you. I'm excited. I'm excited for the call so we can see because it means that we're going to start moving even faster. Ronnie had a bad gather tag. You told me that for last three nights. I don't wish I'd pay on anyone, even Roka. Getting better. But

It was fucking hell those first nights. Yeah, it sounded like it was pretty tough. I'm sorry you went through that. Armada, shout out to Jim, Jimothy, the raccoon. All right. Yes. Is that?

Do you know, Jimothy? No. Jimothy is a raccoon that went viral last week. Oh, okay. It has some sort of spinal issue. I don't think it's in pain, but it, people were saying it was like a cryptid or a rare creature, but it's just a raccoon.

Oh, okay. Kind of walks funny, but internet famous. Jason Maynard. Snyder talking about himself over to the Odyssey and Roken. Thank you. Mike, Mudra, here's a question about our show. Are you going to put it out to the public to see or is it just for members? No, no, no. So this show, Mike, is intended to try to get sold to a Netflix, Amazon, Apple, I'm just mentioning Peacock. I'm just mentioning all the networks. It's meant to be a television show. And so the answer to that is what I think that's a good question also for Craig is that let's see it let's say that pilot when it's done to make sure let's say let's say that

it's going to be in the shopping mode but if if I would ask this question if I was supporting well let's say during the shopping thing and you guys said it's finished I put in money I should be able to see it um that is on my list of things to talk to you about today uh I I want to make sure that that we address that because um in the world of shopping a television show there's there's definitely like that period of time where you know what if it gets sold and then nothing happens with you know there's a lot of like what ifs yeah i do think it's really important that everybody gets a chance to to see it in some capacity yeah and we're gonna we're gonna figure that out and outline that for everybody same jason maynor

christian's kickstarter over the odyssey roca show i hope so armada will sam react to hail mary um If we can get to it, yes. Odyssey, definitely. And sheep detectives, probably not. I don't know how the last one would do. This is a good question. Christian, do you plan to use AI in the pilot? The answer is I don't think my pilot really for what it is, really calls for it.

However, what I will say is there is like, so my character and Martini's character have known each other for 20 years. If there is a way to make a picture of the two of us, like, and this might even be just something like, could be on, you know, on the Kickstarter. Frigerator. Yeah, whatever, whatever it is, just to say like, okay, these are the two characters back when they were 26 years old, like pre-vis stuff and those types of things, maybe. But actual AI, like using for anything else outside of that type of stuff, there's no need for

it. There's no need for it. Josh Rock, do you already have ideas for the locations to shoot? Yes. And I think that, again, the director, and the production team have ideas as well. Ron H. trending, super extended ultimate max, big balls edition with 10% less roca. Christian, you think you have that cut of the pilot? So I messed up, but this shows you how good the audience is because you mess up and they're going to go, well, you already said it.

I said the name of the pilot by accident. I was wondering. I did. I said it by when I was talking about the shirt, because what I want the shirt to be like, you know, make our show with a hashtag trending on it. Um, so that's kind of, that's kind of the idea. This is a great question. Jason Maynard, what tier is Craig Goldberg doing the Goldberg entrance?

Yeah, I had my Goldberg shirt on yesterday. It's really good. It's really good. I did some sparklers and, you know, I'm, I'm, like I said, I'm from Atlanta. So yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect. This is my, my, my bread and butter. So funny. We have to have a full conversation about that.

You know, and again, the audience like, yeah, here you goes, bring up, I was a writer for the WWE. Oh. Did you know that? I didn't know that. Yes, we'll talk about it. I would love to hear. What years? I was only there for a brief stint in 2001.

2001. My first show was Kurt Angle and the milk truck. That was my first show. I actually just went to Metzara, just did Stephanie McMahon's podcast. It was a couple months ago when I went. I was talking with Stephanie and Triple Age, we were talking about my first show and a few other things too. It was fun. That's awesome.

Yeah. Johnny Patrice, do we have a Christian versus Booker T wrestling match? I don't know if I, you know, I could get Booker T to do something for sure. I'd love that. Booker T was the most supportive.

We did a Schmodeon event at his, at his wrestling arena, which is one of my favorite shows still. He was the most welcoming, good dude, and man, I forget, because I worked with him when I was there.

But when we did the show there, you could just tell. Like, I needed him to hit a couple of beats because he was involved in the storylines for our show. He got it. He's like, run it with me once, run it with me again. Got it. He hit every beat and everything I needed him to do like that.

That's awesome. He was brilliant. He was a legend. He is. Mike Rios, 1065. Will the show have good fart jokes? I don't think there is any fart jokes in, in this episode. Doesn't mean it won't change. Joseph Ashley, will there be flashbacks of Christian as a kid on the show? No, it's not me. it is it is a I think it's like a heightened version of like an alternate multiverse potential version of

you know a personality trait of mind if that says anything Ryan S is shooting in L.A. crucial for the show did you consider New York at all, different energy and aesthetics? The character is from New York strangely enough but no the show takes place in L.A. It's actually better

for the story and it's actually better for production. Yeah. Chris Katrev, can we get some T-shirts that are not in black? I have too many of those. There should be options to do that. Yeah, we'll have some options. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Oh, how did that happen? Okay, next one. Did you see the news about the Jared L.A. Gates and Christian, there's going to be a BBC doc about it, too. Fiona George said. I did see that this morning. Luke sent me the article, too. You know, he continuously seems like those are coming out.

I don't know the details of it, so I can't really speak on it, but I did see that in the news today. Yeah, so. Ron H. In all this time, we've never seen Cage with pants. I'm wearing it, I promise. Page, question the launch countdown should have a ticker the week before so we can get ready. Oh, the question.

The launch countdown, are we going to have a ticker the week before so we can get ready? Is that something that happens? Is it harder to do? I mean, I think we can do something like that. Okay. Like on either the page, or maybe you can even have something, like a widget or something on your live streams. Okay.

Tim Miller, 500 Jule. Watermelon, thank you, Tim. Iosha, is the director of the pilot just for the pilot, or is he or she committing to a film a season if it gets picked up? Or does a studio that picks it up picks a director? Well, the person that is coming on as a director, they are locked in as part of a partnership on the show. They're involved with ownership and part of the show.

That's part of the show. the thing. So they will be involved for as long as the series goes. As far as directing goes, I don't think anybody ever directs a full series of TV. And the goal is to probably get other directors to do it. But this person will be involved for the duration of the long the show exists. Barbara's boy, can you please make Sam part in any form of our weekly show? I would love to, our weekly show. You mean this, this show here. I would love to see her interact with the rest of the team. It's, you know, I've talked to him about doing live shows. The problem is that she doesn't have, it's time.

Like she's coming in tonight at 6 p.m. and we're shooting Return of the Jedi finally, right? And it's like, I can't then say, then come in tomorrow and do the live show because I don't have it for another thing. So it's tough to do that. I do want to do a podcast though with me, her and Ming. And then, you know, air that and see how it does. Sticks.

If you make enough money, will you make more? episodes instead of spending more in just the pilot. I guess it depends on how much it is, right? Because it's like, this is again where the production team and the director comes in. If you're like, okay, look, we've actually raised 500K. Now, the question is, do we try to do one episode for the 300, whatever it is, and then a second episode for 200, or do we make an offer to so-and-so and put a little extra money in that to try to get them. We didn't have the money to get them, to go after them before. We can use that song that we really wanted. We can put that in there now. We were going to need that location for another day and we couldn't

get it, but we actually have the money now to have that location. It's little things like that that go into this stuff. And that's why most of these pilots, the big pilots, cost in the upper echelon of the $1 million. Because a lot of people are not going to get paid their normal rates to do it, even at $350K. Yeah, you can't. overestimate the the sheer amount of money it takes to put on a project like this and and the other thing is too is the ultimate goal and I think this is important the goal is to sell this the goal is for the pilot to be so good and so polished and so funny and so great that there's a bidding war over it right so it's like because the the old the rule of thumb is you know kickstart you don't ever really want to be putting your own money into these types of problems You want people to be invested in it. Right. Traditionally, you get an investor or you get a production company.

Kickstarter allows you to do an alternative, which is get your community involved. Yeah. But one, the goal is to make the, you wouldn't want to cut corners on the pilot with hopes of making another episode. You want the pilot to be the best it can possibly be so you can breathe life in future into the show. You aim the financial tanks at it is what you do. do and you do what you have to do in order to make the best pilot possible. And then, you know, but you also have to show the receipts to make sure that you did that. Jason Maynard, water in Tohono or the hosting of Roroka.

Ron H. Jason Bainard, you're never going to run out of stuff better than Roka. Sometimes snotting all over your shirt better than Roka. Man, Roker can look the guy, look the guy, heal. Sticks. Is there going to be other stuff not related to the process of making the show? because I'm not really into that. Yeah, there's going to be other stuff besides that, for sure. But sticks, you know, here's the other thing.

Like what particularly, and this is why I'm saying, like, like what? Again, when it comes to physical stuff, we said shirts, we said other, like, what is it particularly that you are looking for? Because we're looking at what you're not into. What are you into? That type of stuff would be helpful. A hundred percent, right? Because they're, listen, if there's a whole group of people out there who really want

something to physically hold as representation of the show. What, what that is, I don't know, is it a sticker pack or is it trading cards? Like there's things that we photos like what is it. Yeah, right. There's things we can consider, but any suggestions would be. Yeah. Yeah. So what is it in particular? Page question. Please talk to the critical role team. Their Kickstarter was history of how they did it. Well, you know, I, I've had the opportunity to speak to Matt Mercer many times. I'm not again same thing like I said beforehand he was more Ken knapsox buddy I was I'm not got along with him very well but we're not like I don't know if I'm I'm that well a friend say hey man you want to get on the phone and talk but maybe I don't know maybe it's a good suggestion

page Ron H I will go to any eatery if Roka invites me using the accent and talks Sponsmanship and Alutra mask you're talking about the his commercially has for that he that he did this this commercial that they found the PLD watches in loop um Ron H don't you worry about roca guys that dude is the man you all know it you better rocanize guy can even get tackled on a loop right pildy don't do it pldy don't do it nathan drake would plde want acolyte season two or bobafebh set season two that's a great question i'm going to answer for plde you can pop you can put put your stupid bubble with the music on in a second after after i do this but uh what would pl d want accolite two or i'm going to guess that he's going to say boba fad season two if he's going to say either one i'm going to say let's see the

I'm going to say out of the two, Boethy thought. But that in mind, I would like to see the continuation of the stranger storyline from the accolade more than anything. Sure, they should just do his own series, right? Absolutely. Okay. I beat it.

All right. So let's see, next one. Barbara Boy, are you guys going to be shooting between New York and L.A.? Not for the pilot. The pilot would be L.A. And it also means there's another thing, like the commitment. This is why I love my wife the way that she does. She's fully aware that I'm probably going to be, you know,

away. And I'll probably have to have, you know, for this show, co-hosts and other things, doing stuff, but I'll be giving updates and stuff. This is all a great problem to have to be able to give updates from the set and other things, too. So Armada, need a skit of JTE as a weatherman, mispronouncing towns and state names. Oh, it would be the best. Absolutely. Can big balls do reviews of the show? Yeah, absolutely. He'll be there with me in my, in a pocketbook. Jason, Harambe over the honesty over the roca, unbelievable. Uh, Joseph Ashley, will Penny Barber play a bartender? You know, the funny thing

is too, I'm not even kidding you that in a series, I was talking to her on the interview. I would very much have her play a role. I think that she probably would be great. She would be really good if we can find a role for her, for sure. Joseph Ashley, does it cost more to shoot in L.A. or New York? Well, with the team that we have, I bet you'd probably cost more in New York because I think there's a lot of things that they have. They know everybody else is going to be in L.A. Most of our cast will be in L.A. Most of our crew will be in LA, most of our, either the director, everybody's in LA. So it would definitely cost more to ship everybody in New York to do it as opposed to just shipping me to LA.

Jason, King Booker gimmick over the Odyssey of that law. I'd like that gimmick. Sticks, would you direct an episode of Christian? No. No, I, producing enough is enough from and starring in it and writing in it. No thank you on directing. Yeah. Best wrestler never to win a world title.

This is an easy answer for me, Johnny. I don't know. I think we're different generations here, but I know my answer without even Blinken and I. I know my answer without blinking and I. The answer is Mr. Perfect. Mr. Perfect, never won an icy title. Minnesota.

He won, he never won a world title. He won the IACU title. It's interesting that that was your answer because my answer was Scott Hall. And they famously were a tag team together, I believe, in the AWA. Yes, they were. Yep.

Yeah, Mr. should have beaten Hogan, especially during the Mr. Perfect run. How awesome would that have been? Mr. Perfect. You blew it. This guy was Mr. Perfect. Yeah, he was, he was better. I still listen to his theme song when I'm at the gym. I'm a huge, I'm a huge Scott Hall fan.

Yeah. The only problem with, but he, if you look at, if you go, there are guys that should have won it, you can understand why they didn't give it to him. Of course. Because of his problems behind the scenes. I don't understand. understand the reasoning of not giving it to Kurt Henning. Like I don't.

He's unbelievable wrestler. Unbelievable. Still underrated somehow. Totally. He's great. You only got to ever throw football to himself and catch it. All right. Let's say.

Next one, Ron H. I want to shout out Immortal, badass Canadian Michael Ironside. Yeah, we had him on the show once too. He's great. Don't fool with us. Please just don't. We don't start things, but we'll finish him. He was great.

I like talking to him a lot. Two more from now. Iosha, let's say the goal is attained and the show is picked up. How much have you and Martini written out so far? Well, like I said, we have the outlines out for about five to six seasons. As far as episodes, as far as written scripts, only the pilot. Because Martini, rightfully so, said, you know, I don't want to, because we wrote this thing from spec, everything too, and we spent a lot of time away from work, away from family, or from other things. And we didn't get paid for it, you know?

And it's like, you're. asking she was like we've kind of get paid for the second one to do to do it because it's just a lot of time and everything too so we have everything we know where it's going we know we we did write all the outlines but the actual script we'd have to then okay it's time to get to work and then that that's how it'll work yeah um all right bert art perhaps giving contributors a few songs from your pilot soundtrack well the only problem with that is we don't necessarily know what rights we would have yet for the show now what i could do. Craig, this is something we could talk about, is I could share

some of the songs of scenes that I've written to and ideas of where I'd want it to go, things like that. People were interested in that. Yeah. Yeah. Ron H. I miss Roddy. His fight with Keith David, and they live over glasses. Come on. Roddy and his character has missed. Ron, have you watched that episode of Shmose when I had Roddy prank JTE? Please, go watch it. So I used to co-host Roddy's podcast with him. And I had him slap. I maybe knew that.

Yeah. And I had him slap my intern in the head. And he pretended that he got offended with a question that he asked. And my intern was really, really a huge fan. He thought he was mortified. He thought he blew it. Yeah. He blew it.

And then it was so funny because Roddy had just had a friend pass that day. And he came in and he was like, I don't, I don't want to do it. I'm just going to, because I had given him a, a, a cue. I'd give him a cue of what to do what I was going to say. And he's, I don't want to do it. I'm just not in the mood. I go, don't worry about it. I want to do it. That's fine. We'll just with his talk. We're doing the interview. And he looks at me and he goes like this. He goes, like, all right, we're on. Let's do it. So, and then the end of he did it. It was great. You'll have a couple more left here. Sorry. Bubble, bubble, bubble, bubble. Bobble, bubble.

It's PLD Kickstarter. I don't know, Aiden. I mean, again, it's so inside. baseball you know it's like i mean i guess for there there are certain things i mean it cost the cost on that too would be too much but uh it's hilarious mike mudra are you guys going to have a behind the scenes of our show on your channel for both members and public to watch i mean that's not a bad thing to eventually do i don't know if we do a kickstarter but maybe like the documentary or whatever that's made kind of regardless of what happens you just document the whole thing that's probably something for sure yeah uh johnny says kickstarter for critical role sent out a box with plushy stickers playing cards and assigned script yeah yeah i mean that kind of stuff's cool like i'm a i'm a chachie

guy i'm like the guy wandering around comic con like what can i wear some stickers where is there an amel pin i can get my hands on so i get it some people some people hate that kind of stuff yeah um but some people love it um okay let's see how about joseph ashley how many episodes in the show it can be stretched out to anywhere between six to ten episodes. If it's conducive to budget, it can be six. Ideally, it would be eight to ten. Yeah. Ryans, I will happily play Christian in the movie of The Making of Trending,

a la, I play Rocky once this all becomes a major success. Please, be amazing. I would love that. That's cool. Ron H. I have so much to watch, but now I've got to watch this old shit. You won't even watch Hollywood, but I love you, man. We'll watch Clockwork Orange style. You got it.

You got to watch the Shmode out. It's the best. Michael D, Suburban Commander with Hulk Hogan over the hot sea over Roca. Nice. PLDE bubble sticker, Johnny Petriza says. And then get some happy poop from Princess Positive. So we did it. 137 people, 137 starred questions and other things.

That's awesome. Really nice. Thank you guys for doing that and giving Craig such a warm welcome here. Yeah, I appreciate it. It won't be the last time he's going to be on. Oh, we got another one here, Ron H. PILD projects that man in the bubble can't be popped. No, he can't.

Yeah, we got a lot. And I'm going to see Craig. just in just a little bit here. We'll be chatting and I'll have some more information for everybody real soon. But Craig will be on again. He's going to give some more updates and other things coming in. And I would assume, Craig, when I do that, when we go live for the Kickstarter, when I do, I'm going to do like a long stream and just inviting people in all day.

I mean, obviously, we'd love to have you in giving updates to seeing how we're doing and stuff. Absolutely. So, Craig, if people want to, oh, here's another one, hold on. Would you ever consider to do a low-budget movie if our show is amazing? I mean, look, my, my goal right now is to really, because I have, I really want these characters to come to life. I know them so well. I know where they go. I want to see where their stories go.

As a fan of the thing that Martini and I really have developed, I want to see where it goes. So that's my first thing that I think of. Of course, I have people, I want to see it do with science fiction movie. I have ideas. I have things that I want to do. But like, I also, that's my goal. Tunnel vision as far as this thing goes. Going to get this done.

and then who knows, but the idea that would be great. Night 5. So if Craig wins the week, does he get the bonus? No, we're going to put it towards the Kickstarter. There you go. Ioshi. Craig, thanks for helping Christian achieve his goal. I'm happy to be a part of this.

Me too. I'm super happy. You're part of Paige. Christian, when you guys win the Golden Globes, don't forget about us. It's going to happen. You would be, the audience, would be the first person. My goal is to do. What I'd love to do is because, you know, part of the critic's choice,

just to sit there never win but just sit there in the audience and be like you know be there and first thing you say would would be to to thank the thank the audience so it's all fun dreams that might be a really great megatier like uh guaranteed personal thank you in any awards acceptance 100% as one of the first people yeah you know what 100% that ever what a fun what a fun fantasy goal that would be how funny would that be great Okay, and do we all get to go to the, the 10, the Golden Gloves? Yes.

Yes. Oh, sorry. Maybe not. I don't know. Ron, Craig, tell Krishna watch Hollywood, watch it together. He's busy.

Leave the guy along. What is Hollywood? Is that it's a modern day Kevin Smith? It's a pilot that Kevin Smith did and Ron loves it. Ron loves it. He wants me to watch it and I haven't been able to chance to watch it. Listen, Kevin Smith has made some of my favorite movies of all times.

Totally. He was in the Shmode out as well too. Got a chance to know Kevin's, little bit. This is this is the last one for now. Saul, do you think the success of the Kickstarter and the series will inspire a little Bobby in the Juice Live adaptation that's been clamored for? Who knows? If we want to get canceled as fast as possible, yes, sure. Craig, thanks again for being here, dude. Where can the people find you if they want to find your stuff and get a bat boy and all? Yeah. You can follow our podcast at YHS podcast. And you can find us on YouTube.

Yes, have some podcasts. The other channel's toy anxiety every Tuesday night. And then Cryptoids Toys. You can find Cryptoidstoys.com. You could still pre-order. And you can find the Cryptoids Toys Instagram at Cryptoids Toys to get all the latest updates on our production. And yeah, just thanks for having me, man. I can't wait to come back.

Yeah, it was a pleasure to have you. And I'll see you in just a little bit here too. Yeah. And thank you so much, too. We'll talk to you soon. All right. Thanks, everybody. Thanks.

Craig Goldberg, everybody. How fun is that? It's awesome. I'm super excited to be working. He knows his shit. He knows what it is. And as I told him, he's excited about it. As you guys are excited about it. I'm excited about it. So let's make our show. Let's do this. We're going to do it. We're going to get it done. We're going to make it happen. And that's it.

So thank you very much. We'll be back here tomorrow. We're Chris Carr. If you haven't checked out the Supergirl reaction, please go ahead and do that. Thank you to Sam, MK, for doing the time codes. to think of PLD, Jonathan, Luke, everybody who helps make this show. And we'll see you guys back here tomorrow. Peace out, everybody. Bye.

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