The Kristian Harloff Show - When Will They Announce Takia Waititi's Star Wars Movie?
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It's the big thing.
A lot of talk about today.
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at the notification button do it all and roxy and i were going to be talking about some of the
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they showed avatar footage they showed 30 minutes of light ear they they
florence pew and harry styles are fooling around in bed and that's getting thousands of
retweets so there's tons of stuff to talk about we'll talk about it all lots of talk about
Let's do it.
It's the big thing.
It's me.
It's a rocky strier.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome back to another episode.
There she is.
Christian, I did something bad already.
What did you do?
Do you break the chair?
No.
Well, I remember I had gum in my mouth.
Yes.
And then I remember I put it on my cup.
You lost the gun.
And now I see it's not there.
And I'm like, what did you do?
What'd you do with it?
I don't know.
Did you alice it and put it in your drink?
Do you know that one time I was with the crew that you put together for D.C.
movie news back in the day.
And we were at the screening of Justice League.
And I went in with gum.
And I remember putting it in my like arm because there was no trash can.
You know, why just get up?
Or I put it somewhere.
I didn't know where I put it.
I was like, where did I put it?
And then, because I was in the screening.
And then afterwards, I was like, guys, I think I left my gum in there.
I'm really embarrassed.
I don't know if I put it on the seat, whatever.
And then like.
It was in someone's hair.
No, six hours later.
I'm out to dinner.
and my watch moved and the gum was all stuck between my watch.
Yeah, it was disgusting.
And I kind of, so I just, I don't know where it is, Christian.
All right.
Well, is it on the side of the, on the cup?
I don't know.
Oh, oh, I didn't, it's in the thing.
It fell in there somehow.
Look at it.
See?
I was right.
Okay, good.
Because otherwise it's going to be the last time I was invited here.
She shows up late.
She puts gum into the news.
Not only shows up late.
I forgot she was doing the show.
Completely forgot.
Even better.
It's nice to see you too.
Christian said you almost here.
I got the text.
I was like, almost here.
Where would here be?
That's the worst panic feeling that a person can have where you're like,
well, because it's very unlike you is why.
I'm so unlike me these days that you just don't know what's going to happen.
Right.
So who knows?
I was like, wow.
Well, your big TikTok superstar now.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, me and my 10,000 followers on big pimping.
But you jump from like 2010 pretty quick.
I started telling these stories.
The ones that you used to tell on Collider Live.
Legitimately the exact same one.
Same exact ones.
Same exact ones.
And you know what?
The same ones that have been telling my grandmother for years
because she checked it out and was like,
you told me all of these.
Incredible.
It's like good,
good.
Well, good for you.
So you guys should check out,
Roxy.
She's on the TikToks.
And she's,
I posted one thing.
The first thing I posted on TikTok in like a month.
I obviously watched it.
I thought it was great because everybody does know the Batman is going to get a sequel.
So that's the whole video.
That's it.
Everybody was like,
the Batman too?
Well, I did a video.
But I did a video where, let's see, we'll start with this one.
Oh, yeah, that's great.
Nope, not that one, not that one.
Keep scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.
That one.
I started with the Justin Lynn thing.
And I made an actual video of it.
Did you hear about this?
I'm kind of bummed.
They left?
Yeah, I mean, well, it just doesn't make sense.
I don't get it.
All of a sudden, creative differences?
He's got to have beef with Vin Diesel.
Yeah, what do you think, you don't think it's actually.
creative differences.
What are you creating?
Well, I do think it's creative differences.
I think that what happened was,
someone said it in the comment section of the video that I had yesterday,
and I agree with this guy 100%.
Vin Diesel has now become LeBron.
Yeah, yeah.
And now any coach that comes in,
no matter how many championships that coach won,
doesn't matter.
If the star doesn't like what you're doing, you're out.
And I think that's exactly,
and he stayed on as a producer,
and probably that's what they offered them.
Hey, you've done so much for this franchise.
and you basically reinvented the franchise with your directing.
You can have producer credit and still make money on this,
but you're not directing anymore.
And I don't only get fired.
I think you just said,
forget it.
They were weak into shooting.
I know.
I know.
That's why it's surprising to me because he does do such great work.
So I wonder what that could mean.
And I'm with you.
I think that Vin Diesel,
he's one of the last living legit star stars.
I mean,
he's like a massive mega star.
But his movies,
not just,
but he hasn't changed like what the movies.
The movie star used to be able to get you to buy tickets because of his name.
He doesn't do that.
That's not the same anymore with anybody probably but The Rock.
Even The Rock, though, doesn't necessarily.
But he's the closest one to it, I agree.
Yeah.
So I think with Vin Diesel, he just, he knows he is a movie star, one of the last.
And I think he just doesn't want to deal with anybody he doesn't want to deal with.
But why he wouldn't want to deal with him is beyond me.
Well, because who knows who the direction that they want to go with it, you know,
and I still haven't seen the last one.
I never saw nine.
I don't understand.
where we could go that would be beyond the realm of possibility.
Did they do space already?
We venture into space at the last one a little bit,
but we're not on Mars or any.
You know,
we could really do space.
We could really do a whole fast on Jupiter.
I would love to find out like what it really was and what happened as far as what maybe
Vin wanted to do.
And then just let me go,
come on, even that's a little too far, man.
Like, I don't know.
Because you look at,
Vin Diesel has clearly been like the spokesperson of this whole entire thing.
Because even when he had that thing going on with the Rock a little while ago where he's like,
Dwayne, come on back and join the family.
And Rock's like, I see what you're doing.
You manipulate a fucker.
No.
And Rock pretty much said that.
He's just like, this is all for show here.
No.
You're not coming back and you're full of shit.
I've been with, I've been in the room with Vin several times now.
Interviews and stuff?
Mostly because we have a mutual friend.
Oh, okay.
So birthday parties and things like that.
And it is interesting.
always with him because he's lovely. He's so nice, but he does own whatever room he's in.
Like, if he walks into the house and is on another end of the house, you know he's there immediately.
Right. Because it's a different level of star power. And even when I was with him and Sylvester
Sloan in the same room, Vin still owns the room, which is interesting. Like he...
Yeah, but I want to see that in 1985, if that's the case. Yeah, totally, totally. I just found it
fascinating that like he is the the focal point.
And I think that probably even when the rocks in the room,
even though I would deem the rock to be a bigger star,
but they're budding heads.
Yeah, they butt heads over.
You're ego wise and all that and whatever it might be.
They just different philosophies of how maybe they,
they see things or run things.
But either way, Rock didn't get along with Tyrese either, I think, on that.
So who knows what happened to that?
But Tyrese seems to be very, he seems to be a character.
too.
They all have strong personalities.
Could be.
And that's why,
but the fact that they got nine movies done is,
is pretty,
is pretty phenomenal.
So the 10th movie,
I mean,
they were,
the thing that stands out is not necessarily,
directors leave all creative differences all the time.
It happens in Star Wars,
I think,
every movie.
But when it happens a week after,
and he started,
he was writing it too,
I think, too.
That's so weird then because the,
then creatively you should know kind of the direction he's going in.
Maybe,
but maybe that,
maybe off of that script that they were happy with
and wanted to start doing some other things.
And he said,
but that's not what we discussed.
That's not what we want to do.
We don't want to go that direction.
We want to make sure that we go this way.
And it's like, no, we have to do it this way.
And that's probably what happened.
And I think that's ultimately what happened on Deadpool 2 with Tim Miller, right?
And I think that him and Ryan Reynolds butted heads.
And when the star becomes the producer and the bigger name, it's going to be hard for the director to ever win that battle.
And I think Justin Lynn probably knew that and said, I'm not going to go through a full movie like this.
because this is now, and the other thing that people were saying
was that he was offered the next Star Trek again.
So he probably was like, I'll just take Star Trek and walk.
So you think that he walked, you don't think he was pushed out?
Maybe a little both.
Yeah.
Maybe a little both.
Mutual.
Do you like these movies?
I enjoy, it's funny, the first movie was a point break rip off,
and it was just whatever.
Second movie wasn't even him, right?
Oh, the second one was him.
The third one wasn't him.
The fourth one was when it started to turn.
And Justin Lynn, I think, was focal point of that.
But the fifth one is awesome.
It's just a really over-the-top action movie.
And then they start to get a little bit more cartoony superhero,
which I enjoyed watching all the rest of them.
I think eight was kind of where I was like,
I don't know if I need to see another one.
And then the ninth one, I wanted to see it,
but it was right when everything started in the world.
And I'm like, I don't know.
And it's been sitting somewhere on my shelf for like a year,
and I still haven't watched it.
I don't know how good it was.
I just know it was one of the first theaters back in film that I went to.
And so it just felt good being back in the theater.
Christian, I thought it was the best movie I ever seen in my life.
Right.
I could have cried the whole movie.
I had a beer during that movie.
And I'm just like,
I'm sitting there drinking my rono, watching it.
I was like, wow, this is unbelievable.
Right.
This is incredible.
Because it just felt like being back in the theater.
Oh, yeah.
And hearing other people laugh.
I'm laughing too.
So see, it's just different reasons.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It could have been awful.
I don't know.
But my point with all that is that as I'm talking about that story,
then it was, where the hell is it?
And then where's Batman?
Do I even have any Batman?
I'm Batman.
See, I can't.
All this stuff.
Don't worry.
We'll talk about all these things.
I actually think it's really impressive what you're doing, Christian.
I don't.
I don't.
I don't even have any of the Batman here.
I think it is.
It's not too impressive.
I don't even Batman.
I think maybe if you keep scrolling, we might find him.
I got him.
Watch this rocks.
You want to be impressed?
Yeah, I do.
All right, here we go.
There's Batman.
Oh.
Oh, way to go.
Thank you.
Pretty good.
I do think it is.
You're doing a lot of things at once.
You're wearing all the hats.
Trying to.
And the Batman, they announced the sequel.
Now, I would have done a video on, I would have done a video of the Batman if they
would have done a release date.
That's what I thought they were.
People were like, oh, the Batman's coming.
And I had, oh, I had a graphic ready.
I made a thumbnail.
For the release date?
For the video that I was going to do.
I still put the video up on the short that I did.
But I was like, all right, here we go.
I'm going to do this video because the release date, if it comes out 2024,
that's interesting.
That's only two years.
And that means that they're moving so you can kind of get into it.
But then it's like, they announced it.
And he's excited.
I'm like, well, that's a short.
Yeah.
That's, hey, they announced a movie that made a lot of money that's going to do a sequel.
And Robert Pattinson wants to do it because he can get paid more.
And Matt Reeves has more story to tell.
And he liked his experience.
So they're making a second one.
Yeah.
It's like John Lovice.
Hey,
they've been talking about it too.
Like they've already been talking about who would be the villain in the second one,
what their plans are.
So we knew it was coming.
I made a joke that people really didn't like a Christian.
What was it on Twitter?
I think I made it on my show and on Twitter.
Obviously they were going to announce the Batman anyway.
But I was like, you know,
with everything going on with Warner Brothers with Johnny and Amber,
they're like,
Batman, look over here.
Look over here.
And that's why they announced it.
But obviously this is already planned.
It's already planned.
Yeah.
Well, anytime you bring that up.
And it was so funny that you brought that up because I was like, I said to you,
you sat down like I don't really, really dive into that stuff anymore.
It was our Collider Live days when we did it.
And I actually went back and watched that and when we talked about everything going on with them.
And we said it was like, there's more to that story.
Yeah.
Because that was my overall point with Twitter and Facebook and everything.
The second someone's accused of something, mm-mm.
Well, WB is really,
put themselves clearly in some kind of a bind here because they've set a precedent that says
that if somebody is abused, then their abuser gets kicked off of their movie. So what are they
going to do now? It's so, and then when you also look, you look at her, all the stuff that's coming
out with the video that, I mean, the hitting thing that she's talking about and like, it's, I didn't
punch you, I hit you. I mean, come on. She's semantics. She's got problems. She got a lot of problems.
Massively. Massively. Because like the way that she was taunting him, like, it was very, like,
Like even listening to one of the audio things, it was emotional and emotional abuse.
Like, like, even like when he's telling her that she's upset, he's, she's upset.
He's like, are you big man?
Like, like, just like the way that really laying into him and like it's, there's a lot going on there.
But then it's so, Warner Brothers has so much going on because then there's also the Ezra Miller stuff.
And it's like there's so much that they've have to do.
But like watching this trial alone, I, and the things, the thing that kind of really.
got me with Johnny Depp was where he said,
it doesn't really matter what happens with this trial
because of everything that has been talked about in the media
and the jobs that I lost,
like I'll carry this with me the rest of my life.
Yeah.
Why it matters is because it's going to force the hand
of the industry and specifically of Warner Brothers
to make a choice and set a standard here.
Whatever the rules are,
they have to play by the same rules regardless of somebody's gender.
Right.
They need to play by the same rules.
So if their rule is, if you are found to be an abuser prior to us shooting a movie,
we will kick you off.
If you're found to be an abuser and we've already shot your movie, we'll air it,
but then never work with you again.
Like what are your, what are the logistics here, especially after we saw Ezra Miller
choke slam a girl to the ground and then y'all didn't say anything.
And that one was a, that was a difficult one because it was weird because the woman,
I don't believe, you probably know better than I do, didn't come out and say anything
about it because from what they said it was kind of two people Googled.
And I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But then the stuff happens in Hawaii the first time.
And then there's a second arrest.
And then a week later,
because he throws something and hits a woman in the head.
So it's like, and what I said on my chair at a chair.
And what I said in my video was that everything that he's done,
everything he's done, he needs to answer for his actions.
He needs to be removed from stuff, everything.
But I also feel in all of these things, these people should be getting
help and people should be trying to help them.
Right. That's why I really, I really believe we need some kind of like how we have for murder
where there's manslaughter, there's first degree, second degree, third degree.
We need, we need like stages of punishment and for all different actions.
And then we need stages of whether it is anger management, rehab, like what, what is our
intention with people like Ezra when they're throwing a chair at a woman and gashing her head
open and slamming a girl to the ground and screaming, telling people that they're going to kill them,
in their sleep, we're just going to let, if there's no ramifications, then they're going to
just keep doing that.
And that's the thing.
So it's, I don't know.
But all I say, it's just that it is, and it's interesting you said that when it comes
to like Amber is that.
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on the side of it is it does put warner brothers in this position right now because it does to me
anyway from what i've seen it looks to me like johnny dep he has his own omission had did some
things that he's not proud of and things that he that he got himself into and things in positions
he put himself into in that relationship that he wasn't proud of but he adamant that he never he
never physically like abused her right adamant about it my personal opinion in watching it I believe
him from what I've watched so far I'm not I'm not on the jury yeah I'm just saying from what I
what I've heard so far and the tapes that I've heard so far you've heard but I'm well done but
What I will say, though, with all of that, is that it is interesting here, and I throw this to you, because you pretty much said this as you're starting it, is that a lot of these times that it is the straight kind of white guy that is going to be the one who's going to get kind of thrown the book at.
And it seems on this side that it should be the one that they're looking at going, okay, this guy was was tormented by this one for a lot of it.
He did a lot wrong too.
There's no doubt about it.
I mean, even from the way that he was,
that we saw in those tapes and certain things that he was,
with the screaming and the yelling,
and said, sure.
But this was not, again, to me,
does not seem as one-sided as everybody thought it was when it started out.
Yeah, completely.
I think that there's very clear evidence,
at least whether,
regardless of whether you think that Johnny Depp
did or did not physically abuse Amber Heard,
did or did or did not emotionally and did or did not psychologically abuse her,
there is admission of guilt on Amber Heard's,
side that she did, that she did hit him. She said that. She said, I did hit you. Right. I didn't punch
you. I hit you. Right. And so if, so putting the Johnny Depp towards Amber Hurd part of it aside,
she has now admitted to abusing him physically. Right. So that, to which your point is they have this,
they have this standard. You set your own standard. You said, Johnny, because we believe you hit Amber,
which now we're finding may or may not be the case. We,
We are taking you out of the franchise.
So if that's the standard, then don't you have to take Amber Heard out of the franchise?
Or at least make a statement and say, Johnny had not filmed pirates yet.
Amber had already filmed Aquaman.
It is our company's standard that we are going to release this, not put her on the press tour,
and then not have her be in any part of D.C. moving forward.
They can't have every part of Aquaman too.
Do they shoot it already?
Yeah, they're shot.
I don't think they should do that.
I think they should cough off the money.
They should cough up the money and replace her and do reshoot.
Do like Christopher Palmer style?
But I just, I do think so.
Wow.
And I think they should do the same thing with Ezra Miller, to be honest.
But that's, that's shooting a new movie.
So challenging.
That's shooting a new movie.
So challenging.
Yeah.
The Amber Hurd stuff, you could probably just find, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know how much of the movie she's in, but I mean, that's.
Yeah, it's challenging.
But regardless of what I think they should do, they need to do something.
Just let us know what you're doing.
Discovery, when they bought it, it was like, oh, yeah, come on.
And they're like, gock.
Yeah, straight up.
Oh, my God.
Because they're not speaking.
They're not making any statements.
Instead, they have a presentation and they're like,
Batman, too.
We're not even going to tell you anything about it.
And that's what you were saying.
And that was my joke.
But you can't, and which I understand you were making a joke.
But you can't at that point, you've got to just,
what can you do?
You can't acknowledge it.
And I think that they even showed Aquaman to.
Oh, yeah.
Footage, right?
They showed flash footage.
They showed, right.
They showed both.
But I think that out of the two, both, both should be addressed, no doubt.
But out of the two right now, I mean, the Amber heard.
Johnny Depp trial is like so out there, it's like, it's like this phenomenon.
Well, there's 500,000 people watching live, Christian.
Wow.
And you're watching, you're watching every day.
I watch eight hours a day.
That's nuts.
So what, so what, so what do you, so what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, what do you, you're pretty much, you, I think you're on the same page as I am where you think that there's more to it, that, that she was definitely, I don't know, more so the abuser, but what do you.
So as of this point, Amber Heard has not taken the stand.
Is she going to?
I believe so.
And we always know that things can change.
And as every day comes by, new information presents itself.
Yesterday was a, day nine was a really huge day because Johnny Depp's team hired this
doctor, Dr. Curry, who she is wildly well respected in her field.
She's done.
I mean, talk about somebody whose education list is longer.
She's not going to take money to make somebody look good.
Right.
And she diagnosed Amber Heard with two personality disorders.
Oh, wow.
Where were they?
After sitting with Amber Hurd for 12 hours.
Oh, wow.
And one of them is a borderline personality disorder.
The other one was a name that I had never heard of.
But she talks about how big signs of this are using colorful language and but not really
ever saying anything and having very erratic behavior.
And she also says that Amber Hurd does not have PTSD, that she did not diagnose her with PTSD.
And that doesn't mean that she was not physically abused, but that would be, have been a sign
that she might have been.
And so it was a really challenging day for Amber's team.
Plus the whole thing with the makeup, right?
The makeup company said they didn't start selling that product until after Amber was claiming
to have used it.
Now, tell me here, because again, I'm not, I find my updates through TikTok and other things,
right?
So if, so couldn't she say that I was, I was saying, I meant this makeup instead.
I do feel that way, Christian, specifically about that.
me, if you ask me, I might think that I was using my smashbox concealer, but I could have been
using something else. That to me was not a damning piece of evidence. A lot of people think it is.
In the same way that TikTok is all obsessed with how she's wearing the same outfits as him the next day.
Have you seen this theory? They think she's trying to get in his head because she's wearing the day
after he wears a color, she wears that color or her hair like he's wearing, it's a bizarre TikTok
conspiracy theory, but they've got a lot of them. But to me, it's not that. It's her say, her on tape saying,
go ahead and tell the world that you, Johnny Depp, a man are abused by a woman and see how they feel.
It's that.
Right.
It's her saying, I did not punch you.
I hit you.
That's the one for me.
You know, it's all of those things.
It's the way she spoke to him.
I mean, like, even the stuff that the video that she, because the fact that these two clearly didn't trust each other at all because they're recording each other at every moment.
But even the stuff that she.
A clear problem.
A clear problem.
A clear problem.
I mean, if you get to that point in your relationship.
You're recording each other.
And then she was recording him, but even the stuff where he was kind of like belligerent.
And the thing that when they were, she was like trying to frame him almost.
Like when he's passed out and she gave him like the ice cream.
Yeah.
And like that whole thing.
And I'm like, it just seems dirty.
Yeah.
It just seems dirty.
Her defense is really trying to make a case that Johnny Depp is an alcoholic and a drug addict.
And Johnny Depp has admitted to.
That's what he said.
He said I was.
I had an opiate addiction.
So the problem is that I think that they thought,
if they could prove that he used drugs and was a drinker,
that he was an abuser and those things are not the same.
No, and you know what sticks out to me, Rocks,
is that a lot of times, because we've known people in those types of relationships
and some people, you know, what I think that really stands out to me,
and again, you know more about this than I do,
so maybe there are other people, but I think that when there is an abuser,
a history follows them.
I remember when a writer coming out saying never had an issue,
with him as far as physical goes.
You're talking about his exes might have had a similar problem like his ex-wife.
Yeah, as other people come out and said that he's been abusive?
Because I have not seen anything.
That's usually the most damning thing.
For him, I think the most damning things have been the fact that he is clearly verbally abusive to her.
He calls her a fat bitch.
We hear him screaming at her.
And there's multiple pieces of evidence.
And that's wrong and really wrong, but that's not physical abuse.
Absolutely.
And the closest thing that her team has had to proving the physical abuse is this weird headbutting situation.
But he's saying he's saying he didn't headbut her on purpose that it was that there was like a collide situation.
Also, she's claiming that he puts cigarette burns out on her.
He puts his cigarettes out on her.
He's claiming sometimes he ashes and maybe she felt an ember somewhere.
So we have not yet had a proof of physical abuse for him to her.
Just verbal abuse.
And no,
possibly psychological.
And no exes coming up because like, like,
look at someone like Marilyn Manson.
Yeah.
When that thing came out,
three,
four,
five people come out.
Well,
it's not a good sign that Johnny was so close with him
and sending him text messages
that have come up through this trial.
Right.
I mean,
you are the company.
You keep in a lot of ways that now that,
that's not damning to Johnny.
No.
It's just a lot of his.
But when you're guilty by association sometimes,
you know,
and when it comes to,
because like who company you keep with,
but on the same aspect,
I mean,
there's also,
people that you know that you hang out with and you know that that do stuff you didn't know about
and you don't absolutely so absolutely i'm just saying when you're mentioning his name the fact that he's
come up multiple times in the trial is like it's it's not cute no i know i know it's just the whole thing's
dirty yeah it's gross and that text message that he sent to paul betney about fucking her dead body
he's going to drown her and then and then make sure she's dead by having sex with her dead body
and he's saying like that's just our humor and i'm like again
Not physical abuse.
Right.
But disgusting.
No, I know.
No, yeah.
But, I mean, that's the same stuff like, you know,
when it came to the James Gunn stuff that happened.
Oh, yeah.
James Gunn was, like, there's certain humor that just does not land at all and probably
shouldn't be, but that wasn't public.
Yeah.
That wasn't public.
That was a bad for Paul Bettney.
Seriously.
This poor guy, they're asking Johnny, like, what drugs did Paul Bettney do?
He's like, I'm not sure how that's relevant.
And they're like, it is what drugs?
He's like, cocaine.
Like, he, I mean, just airing out all Paul Bettney's dirty.
he's going to do. He's on, he's under oath on, but it's like poor Paul Bettney, who's done.
He's all right. He's laughing all the way of the back. I'm sure, but it's not, it's not fun.
No, I know, but this is the other thing is this stuff will be, this is there'll be another trial people
are talking about and, you know, whatever it might be. I just, I do think, though, what I will say is
that out of all the, there have been tons of people that have been able to work again and do
things again. I do hope that Johnny Depp is able to work after this, too. I, I do.
We'll see what happens with the end of the trial. I think that if he is proven to,
If they are not able to prove physical abuse, I think that I mean.
I think the internet is going to demand more Johnny.
That's what I mean.
Of course.
If something comes out where it turns out that she was telling the truth,
which it doesn't look good for her right now.
But like you said,
she hasn't hit the stand.
Yeah.
So we'll see.
More so,
I hope that the Warner Brothers and the entertainment industry sets any kind of effing
precedent.
Any kind.
It's nuts.
Well, we definitely,
I tell you,
I wasn't prepared to talk about that at all.
But there we go.
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All right, moving on.
Next one.
All right, Rox, we got, we talked about,
oh yeah, that was my point.
It was the Batman.
It's just, we just, we have the sequel coming out.
I'm excited about it.
Did you like, you like the movie, right?
I really did.
I really did.
I thought it was really solid.
I think that the best part is that at the end,
I wanted more, and now we're getting more.
Did you watch it again since it hit HBO Max?
No, I haven't.
Have you?
I watched the opening scene.
I really love the opening scene.
So great.
It's just my wife started watching and she really liked it.
She did.
Yeah, she was really, she really.
I'm kind of surprised.
No, enough for that.
Those types of movies.
Cool.
She likes those movies.
And then when, especially when she's, but I had seen it and I, I don't know, I just wasn't in the mood to watch the whole thing.
So I just watched the couple of the opening scene.
I was like, because we had started it at like nine o'clock.
I'm like, we're not doing it.
Well, you know what I am watching right now.
I got sent the, uh, the first, the last.
The last six episodes of Ozark
Shut the F up
How do I get on that mailing list?
Oh my God, that's like my favorite show.
That show is...
It's delivering rocks.
I'm three episodes in.
Really?
It's delivering.
Wow.
Yeah, Ozark is, it's ending pretty pretty well.
I would say, I want to talk to you about it,
but obviously I don't want to spoil anything.
I love that show.
To me, it comes out, it's like tomorrow or something.
I have said, yeah, they just did the premiere in New York,
so I'm sure it's coming right now.
I keep saying that to me,
like it is almost as good as breaking bad for me.
It's different because it doesn't have as strong villains.
You know, the villain characters are not as strong, I think.
But it's still the family dynamic, everything about it.
It just works for me.
It does.
And I think there's so much.
And Laura Lenny is doing some great stuff on that show.
She's unreal.
She really is.
So there's that one, I was like, let's take a break from Batman.
We'll watch Ozark.
And then Moon Night, which this last episode to me is,
I think the best episode of Marvel television so far.
Wow.
Yeah.
All of Twitter.
Crying.
Crying like little babies.
I think it, for me, it was,
and I don't want to spoil it for anybody that.
I have my full spoiler episode up if you want to go check out that episode.
But there's just stuff that I related to in that episode that I think one emotionally I was attached to there.
But then it was,
Oscar Isaac just puts on an acting clinic.
Yeah, he's amazing.
He's just so good.
And what I liked about this episode was that,
It was cerebral, like it was emotional.
It made everything in the previous four episodes count.
And it doesn't rely on a guy in a cape beating people up.
And I like that when that happens, but I don't want it all the time.
Do you feel like you have a full understanding of what's happening?
Now I do.
I didn't before.
There's still one thing that I still want to know about because like the way that they were kind of transitioning in between things.
well wait a minute what's what like that's and i think we're going to learn that in episode six
yeah the finale but everything that led from because mike kalanowska and i had these conversations
where he thought moon night should just been a movie and after this episode i'll i'll disagree
with anybody because this was a this was a 45 minute to 50 minute episode that you needed to do
that just combined everything yeah loved i loved this episode so much that's interesting that he
thinks that because it's so rare that I ever think a TV show could be a movie.
Often think movies could be TV shows, but what TV shows can be truncated like that.
It's funny.
There are some movies that I'm like, okay, that's probably just enough for a standalone.
I don't need a TV show out of that.
But yeah, I think that I don't, I'm, it's so funny because I think when you met me,
I was always the movie person.
But now I'm so much more into the television shows because I think streaming has just changed
that.
Like it was always network for me that I, like I always, now if I could go back,
I wish loss could be on like Netflix or something.
Our loss could be on, you know, Amazon Prime.
You mean for the first time.
Yeah.
Because you don't have the commercial breaks.
They would,
they would have truncated that whole series from like 22 episodes to like 10 or 12.
And you would have gotten the clear cut stories.
You probably would have more seasons and they would have more time to work on it.
It's not all this network TV pressure that they had.
And so I love watching the evolution of TV and the characters.
because like Star Wars, I don't need a movie.
And I understand that, of course, I'll be there.
And to watch it in the big screen if they do it, I would love it.
With the people.
Yeah, but like, so like Obi-Wan, I'm so glad that's a series.
So glad.
Yeah, there is a different vibe, though.
I don't love how Disney Plus drops their shows.
I last- midnight on Wednesdays?
Yeah, and, you know, last night I watch Moon Night the second it drops.
Yeah, yeah.
And I go to Twitter.
Twitter and you know, you type in Moon Night and then you go to your friends, people tweeting
about it. You can see which of your friends are tweeting about it and none.
Because they're all sleeping. Yeah. And I'm just sitting there. I'm like, I want somebody
to talk to. Yeah. It is bizarre that they do it that way. This is something that I don't
understand. We talked about it on Sith Council. So Obi-Wan, speaking of releases, they were supposed to
release episode one on the 25th, which is a Wednesday. And now they're doing two episodes. On the
27th, bizarre.
Which is bizarre in so many different ways.
One, it's bizarre because, not that this is so much of a thing, but like,
Stranger Things drops on Netflix that day.
So a lot of people will be streaming one and done and they'll, they'll binge the whole
thing and maybe then they'll watch Obi-1 the next day.
That's part one.
The one that's bizarre to me is that celebration starts that Thursday.
You don't think that there is a correlation between those two things?
I thought, don't you think it makes more sense if you're doing, if you're doing Wednesday
and you go, hey,
Wednesday and then tomorrow that's the precursor.
Celebration. It's tomorrow. Talk about Obi-Won.
Now you're asking people who are at
Celebration to watch two episodes
and then when's the panel.
I wonder if they didn't want spoilers for
people who weren't able to see it on Wednesday, for the people
there Thursday. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't understand what the reasoning was
before. But it's great because you get
two episodes because the other thing is that they go back
to Wednesday the following week. They're not
like moving it to Friday. Do you think
that part of them was hoping to stick it
to Netflix?
No, because it's like, it's just one day.
Yeah, I don't know.
I genuinely think that's bizarre and there must be a logic that we don't know.
It has to be like, okay, look, what if we do this instead?
Because what the other thing that could be is that maybe that second episode, maybe what the other thing that it actually could be was that if they were going to drop it on that Wednesday and that episode two has like a massive reveal.
But they couldn't drop episode two on Wednesday?
Like it was going to be finished two days prior?
I mean, maybe they didn't want people.
Maybe there's something to happen like you're saying with celebration.
Maybe there's something that they want to announce at celebration on Thursday that
correlates into the second episode of episode two.
Yeah.
Because that's why they're dropping two episodes.
Maybe Vader, maybe Vader stuff or I don't know.
Either time will tell on this or it won't.
Either celebration will happen and we'll be like, oh, now we totally understand why you did that
or it will happen and we won't and we'll be like, all right, that was some weird decision making.
Right.
Right.
Are you going to celebration?
No, but you are right.
Yeah.
I'm kind of jealous.
What happened?
I know that you weren't.
You were?
Well, it's weird.
It's, Reed Pop we worked with for years.
We're doing Collider Live and everything too.
And we'd submit it for this panel and we didn't get the panel for Shmowdown or anything
to them.
I don't know what's going on.
Then I applied for Media Badger and I didn't get it.
And then I was like, I don't know what's happening.
Right.
So then I, and then I reached out to my contact at Reed Pop.
And he's like, no, let me, I'm going to meet with them today.
Lucas from today.
Let me see if there's anything going on.
And now they just, whoever was looking at it just overlooked it.
They love what you're doing with Sith and everything too.
So they approved it.
Oh, so you're doing a panel?
I'm not doing a panel, but I got a media badge.
Oh.
So the panel, to be honest, I think I just want to go in.
And I would have loved to have done a panel with Steph and my.
It's just bizarre that they.
But the Schmode out, the Smodown panel not doing it, organizing everybody and then taking
people away, like, you know, some of the big competitors to do their stuff and take them away
from celebration.
It's like, I can live without it.
I would have liked that on a South Council panel,
but I'm having him going.
Yeah.
Because I want to, there's so much,
we had this whole discussion on Sith Council.
There's so much, I think, is going to come out of the announcements,
television announcements.
And the last celebration,
there was Mandalorian,
but they weren't into this kind of groove that they're in on Disney Plus right now.
You know,
so I think that we're going to get more information there.
I think that we will get a Taika Watiti.
announcement of his movie, whether or not it ever comes to fruition, who knows?
But you think he'll be there announcing?
I think they'll have to announce at least one movie.
Yeah.
Because like DC and Star Wars, DC and Marvel are released, are talking movies all the damn time.
And Star Wars still doesn't have a movie.
Patty Jenkins are supposed to have a movie.
They lost that one.
Whatever movie they announced, they probably wind up losing anyway.
It seems to happen every time.
But they'll have to announce something.
Don't you think?
Yeah, I do think so.
but I don't know that that's the best method.
No, probably not.
But I think that just...
But I think they think that.
Yeah, and the reason I think Tyka is because he is one of these guys,
he's just hot right now.
Yeah.
And so because he's infused with Marvel and Star Wars right now anyway,
with Mandalorian and things he's done, it's like,
he's like a rock star.
When he comes out, when we saw him at the premiere of whatever the hell it was,
it might have been Endgame.
And he walked out, and it was like,
Mick Jagger walked out. People want nuts.
People love him. Love him. And so
if he shows up at
celebration, he'll get a big pop. People will love
to see him and then he announces
what his movie's going to be. It'll be a big piece
of news. Do you think for, if you're
Tika's manager, are you
telling him that the best thing for him to do right now is a
Star Wars movie? Yeah, because
he's got a good relationship with them. And I think that
the reason why I'd be encouraged that it would
actually get done is because he
comes from this school of
Debra Chow
Faloni, Favro,
everybody that worked on
the Star Wars show, Bryce Dallas Howard,
and everybody who worked on all those directors,
they have this kind of
a different mentality of
the Star Wars lore and the connecting
with the inspirations to Star Wars
that the new trilogy, I don't believe, had
and of no plan
and just kind of, you make the movie you want to make
and do it where you listen to these interviews
that you,
and McGregor is given about Deborah Chow.
She's locked into this thing.
And I can't wait to see what she does.
She's infusing the prequels, rebels, the new trilogy.
That's like everything that I've been looking forward to new Star Wars content for years.
Yeah, I'm definitely with you.
I just think it's interesting that Tyca's got such a unique career in which he does things
like, what is that show that I'm watching of his right now, the Blackbeard show.
It's a bizarre comedy, or he does Jojo Rabbit or like, you know, just,
different things where you're like, what, this man is, this man, he can do whatever he wants,
he can tell whatever story he wants to tell. And is Star Wars what he wants to do?
I think it is. I think that's the answer because you look at what he did, his episode of
Mandalorian, it's funny because when you look at that episode, the last one that he did,
it was the season finale of Mandalorian season one. And it opened up with a very tycho,
a Titi scene with these two Stormtroopers, kind of cracking jokes. And it
It made me nervous.
And I was like, okay, is this whole episode going to be like that?
And it wasn't.
Right.
It ended really emotional.
It had some great moments.
It felt very much like the Star Wars universe.
And I think to answer your question, if I was his manager or agent, wherever, it's like, yeah, do this because not television.
Movies right now, Star Wars is like, it's not, it's not the top game right now.
Yeah, you could be the talk of the town.
You could be LeBron.
Yeah.
You could be LeBron.
You could win it.
If you are finally the director that gets the entire fan base on board,
the way that you did,
I mean,
because a lot of people,
there are certain people that don't like Ragnarok
and aren't excited about Thor Love and Thunder,
but the majority of people seem to think that that third Thor movie was the best,
the way that he was.
Wow,
you've met people who don't think Ragnarok was the best Thor movie?
I've seen a lot of people that feel that it's against,
because it's very similar to what you were telling me about why people
didn't like Moon Night,
because it is against traditional Thor.
What he did is he used,
Taika was able to use Chris Hemsworth
natural comedic ability
and he used that with Thor.
And they used it in different movies too,
but he really used it in Ragnarok.
And he looks like he's doing that 10 times over
with making him like this hippie version
in Love and Thunder,
which I'm all four.
I think it looks fantastic.
But yeah, I think that he's going to,
I think that he's going to do something.
He's had an opportunity to do that with Star Wars.
Wars, and that's why I think he's going to announce.
I think it's really smart.
I think that if Star Wars messes it up with him, people are going to be so pissed.
Yeah, true.
That's the thing.
That's a great point.
If Star Wars announces him and they announce his movie and then they Benny Off
Weiss, Lord and Miller, Patty Jenkins, Garrett Edwards, on and on and on and on, if they
do that again, and people are like, what, Garrett Edwards, Garrett Edwards, was shoved to
the back.
And if they do that with Tyca, I know.
You can't do that with Tyca.
No, it's like, whatever.
People would be like, are you kidding me?
You need to step back.
But the reason that I feel like that, if it was another director with that same kind of clout that wasn't connected to the Star Wars universe, if Tyca was not connected to the Star Wars universe, I would be very nervous because of that.
He's just going to make some movie that's not going to connect to anything.
And it's not going to, he doesn't, he clearly knows the world very well.
And is a student of the game.
Like, like, and I mentioned this on.
Sith. Not only is Deborah Chow, every director that was sitting at that gallery episode
listening to Filoni and Favreau talk, they like these wide-eyed kids listening and understanding
and talking about and geeking out. It wasn't just a gig for them. Because they love it. Yeah.
Because I love it. And that's why I think that, and it also depends on what it is. Like,
it depends on what the, like, if they gave him, if he started out, like, I don't know if he's the guy
to start like an old republic
series. I feel like old republic needs
to be pretty serious and I think that
I don't mind Star Wars having
humor because
Star Wars humor to me when it's done right
well like the examples I always use are
Hans Solo in episode 4
when he's like
I'm fine how are you shoots the things as
a boring conversation anyway
that's because it's in line with the character
right in Mandalorian when
when he's talking to the Jawa's and the Jaws
are making fun of his uh the way that he's talking
in Jawa and then he says,
how about this, you understand this?
And he tries to set them on fire.
That's the kind of humor that I think you can work all day long.
It's when you get into,
I don't think that Marvel humor fits Star Wars.
Right, because not every character is funny in Star Wars,
so it doesn't make sense.
What is your Christian, your 15-second TikTok
if Tika signs to Star Wars and then they split
because of creative differences?
Oh, man.
Here we go again.
I think it's time for a change.
That's all I'll say.
Watch my next video.
You can't, like, you can't blow this.
You can't blow this.
If you, if you announce a Tycho, a Tiki movie, like, you've already announced a movie.
Yeah.
But if you announce that what it is with him, this movie has to be made.
What do you think it is?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
No thoughts.
No.
No, but whatever it is, whoever it is, whether it's Tycho or not, the movie has to happen.
Yeah.
Like, it doesn't, it doesn't matter who it is.
Because you can't keep doing it.
And you say that, but it keeps happening.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's like, I actually respect the fact that they're not going.
Better that it happened now with Patty Jenkins before they started shooting
because with the Lord Miller stuff and all that, it's like, it just keeps happening.
Every movie.
Like Colin Travaro.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's more than, it's more than anybody else.
It's nuts.
And it is at some point, you know, when you're.
dating somebody and you keep breaking up, like all the people you're dating, you keep breaking up
with you for the same reason. At some point, you have to be like, it's me, not you.
What am I doing wrong? It's a hundred percent. And it's, and I think that that's, it's, I don't know,
there's a lot behind it because there needs to be a Star Wars movie, even though, like I said,
I'm, as someone who just likes to take it, I like to take in, it depends on why you like Star Wars.
If you like Star Wars for the big spectacle and to go there and to just have some popcorn and
and just watch like lightsaber fights and and battles and then I understand why everybody wants
to go and see these movies in the theater.
Yeah, that's kind of me.
And I understand that.
Yeah.
I like the, the lore and the complex lore, the exploration of the characters, the planets,
the politics, like all of that.
I feel like when you try to do that in a movie, it's too crammed.
And if you don't have a plan to get it all the way through, it doesn't work.
Like they would have crammed in a Mandalorian movie in like two hours of everything.
that we've had so far in these one or two seasons,
it would be sloppy.
And they would have to, because it's a movie,
and you want people to get money,
they would start to X out a lot of the character stuff
and put in big set pieces because,
oh, wait, but they're paying for these tickets.
We've got to go over the top here,
big space battle and this,
which I understand when you go to the movies,
you want to see that because you don't want to get just conversation.
Same thing with Moon Night.
You can't have that kind of episode in a movie.
Because it would be...
Of course not.
You can't spend the time on that.
No.
It would be like a 10-minute scene.
Or an eight-minute scene.
Yeah, Mikey. What are you thinking?
100% moron.
Oh, freaking idiot.
But anyway.
So, welcome to Sith Council.
Oh, thanks.
I would do really well on that show.
You would have.
Remember when I couldn't remember Luke's last name the other day?
Did you do that?
What's his last name again?
What was that?
Is that on the flyer live?
And I'm like, where it was?
I stopped and I was like, what is Luke's last name?
Does he have one?
And everybody was like, are you kidding?
When was that?
I would have remembered that.
I think I was with Steph.
I wasn't on there.
I was like Skywalker.
Yeah.
I loved her story, by the way.
She said what she was in, I think she was in Ireland.
And she said that there were these two guys talking Star Wars.
I don't know this.
Oh, it's great.
She's like, because, you know, she's the, she's my, she's my number two on, on Sith Council.
So like, she, she walked in and, and she walks over, she's like, you guys talking Star Wars?
Like, yeah, we're talking Boba Fed.
It's like, I know it.
It's crazy.
It's 2022.
How are you going to assume that she doesn't know?
But then they're like, well, you know, I mean, do you know Star Wars?
She's like, I know pretty well.
And then just started to school them on Bocaped.
But they were like, they weren't like, oh, those girl, they were like, they were impressed.
Yeah, they're impressed because she knows, she knew her stuff.
And she was like, I mean, she knows that show.
We went extensively on that show.
Yeah, yeah.
It's exactly what you did for me for DC, which is like the greatest gift that you ever gave me is kind of her with Star Wars because she was always a fan.
but now she also is like a scholar of it.
She's so good in it too.
It's amazing to be able to feel confident in your skill set and like you really
know something.
And it not only helps you book gigs,
but also in situations like that where you're like, listen up.
I got some knowledge.
She knew way more than any of them.
But all right.
So moving on to the next story.
They showed,
I guess they showed some stuff with Avatar.
I don't know what the hell this is,
but it's just kind of footage,
but they're doing a lot of underwater stuff.
but a lot of stuff came out from like cinema con and what was the main thing that I saw
on cinema con about avatar they said like each one's going to be like a standalone type thing
there's so many updates that are coming out seven movies or something I think they said five but
I don't remember how many let me let me see in general are you into avatar I am okay I am I know
that it's not a popular thing to say but I don't think that I am actually really into it
speaking of staff she is too in avatar yeah yeah
Yeah. Avatar 2 teaser is going to debut in front of Dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness.
So we kind of knew that was going to happen, right?
Yeah, you going to that?
Yeah, on Monday?
Yeah.
Avatar, the way of water is coming this December.
It's real.
It exists.
It's from Jeff Snyder.
And Avatar producer John Landau says that each sequel will play out as a standalone story and feature its own conclusion.
So there will be an emotional resolution to every film.
The journey across all four movies will create.
So wait, so are there four new movies?
Or is it four?
Maybe it's five including the old one.
Here's what I think.
That sentence,
Avatar producer John Lando,
after that where he says,
says each sequel,
well,
you took it away,
but it's okay.
Each sequel will play out
as a standalone story
and feature its own conclusion.
Shouldn't that be every movie?
That's what I was just thinking.
I love that people,
like,
you don't get brownie points
for making a movie
that has a beginning,
middle, and end.
I think what he means.
I think I understand what you're saying is I felt the same way.
But I think what he means is that it's not going to be like these big cliffhangers at the end.
Yeah, maybe.
And that's totally fine too.
I just think with all movies, that should be the standard.
Of course.
But there are a lot of movies that leave you with that cliffhanging.
I mean, Dune, which I love.
Right.
Which is a perfect example.
Dune is clearly a part one.
Yeah.
Kill Bill Volume 1 is clearly a part one.
Yeah.
And I think we should really get back to, even though I love both of those movies,
we really should have almost.
all movies when you're going to the theater,
you should be able to walk in and it has a beginning, middle end,
because otherwise it's a TV show.
Yes, and that's what I was going to say.
I mean, but look, you can look at it the same way that,
look at the Marvel movies, right?
Like the Marvel movies, I think, fit into this definition of what Landau's
talking about.
There are movies that clearly play into the next phase.
Infinity War.
Yeah, Infinity War was supposed to be like a part one.
So that's a little bit different.
Which I love.
Yeah, yeah.
Something like Ant Man, right?
Like Ant Man or even Dr. Strange.
Have you watched Dr. Strange again since?
Seen it twice.
When was the last time, though?
Years ago.
You know it wasn't.
I know.
That's why I brought, I thought of you because I watched it the other day.
With everything going on with the multiverse now and with the idea that it was, you know,
Spider-Man stuff and all that, I went back and watched it again.
It is significant.
I always liked it.
So it's a different thing with you and I.
I significantly liked it more because it's set up,
the multiverse stuff and everything that's set up.
It's set up.
Like,
they set this thing up a long time ago.
Do you like him though?
Yeah, so you don't like him.
As an actor.
You don't like him as Dr. Strange.
I don't know.
Okay.
So even in Spider-Man.
So even in Spider-Man.
Yeah.
Oh, well, then you might-
I'm in trouble because of that.
If you don't like the character,
it's not the writing or anything.
No, it's the character.
He bothers me.
And so in Spider-Man, it's the best him that we've gotten so far.
Okay.
And also, you never know.
It always depends on the mood you're in when you go to see a movie or whatever,
but he just doesn't do it for me.
The character bugs you.
Okay, well, that's a, that's, then there's probably no saving you there.
Yeah, I know.
So I thought it was a different reason as far as, like, writing and stuff,
because the writing and the, and the, every, the story itself plays so much better now because, like,
I'll rewatch.
It's just, maybe.
Watch it with subtitles.
Like, because.
Does it help?
It's just, when I do rewatches, I rewatch them with subtitles because it's almost like I'm looking at the script,
the same thing.
I'm picking up certain things.
Maybe he'll bother me less when I'm reading him.
Maybe it's just because multiverse and the idea of it.
And then I went, did you watch the what if?
No, only the first episode.
Watch the Dr. Strange what if ones because that I think all of them are going to play into multiverse.
And that's, by the way, so that's probably a good transition for us as we can maybe call it for our last one.
Because Avatar, the avatar I'm on board with.
There's not just really, this is not enough black phone.
they showed.
Oh, Lady Gaga.
Yeah, we'll talk about that Lady Gaga thing.
But Dr. Strange.
So, Dr. Strange to Multiverse of Madness,
there's...
This picture is so silly.
It's a goofy picture.
I think everything about him.
It looks like it's a Batman thing on.
It just, I don't know, man.
I have...
It's me.
I'm a problem.
Yeah, you just have...
There's certain characters or actors sometimes
that just that don't resonate with you.
But this movie,
after seeing there was like a new spot.
that came out recently.
And it had Dr. Strange and the Illuminati and all this stuff.
But they also showed Ultron's like robots or pushing them in.
That plays significantly from What If.
Oh.
Like that's, it's like a massive thing on what if.
And then there's the, there's then there's the dark universe, um, Dr. Strange.
And also, I don't know if it's the same one, but it's, that also plays in.
Like the Dr. Strange what-if episode
I just watched again the other day.
It's basically what if he wasn't,
he didn't lose his hands.
Remember the first half?
Yeah.
He loses his hands.
Instead, it's Rachel McAdams character that dies.
And so that is what takes him to become the sorcerer supreme.
But then he goes and tries to manipulate time to save her.
And every single time,
it just doesn't work.
And he gets to a really dark place.
And it's a pretty, it's pretty fascinating.
And you think that's going to play into the movie.
I think all the what if stuff is,
know for a fact now because that Ultron stuff when they showed the Ultron robots like
oh they're playing into like Ultron
manipulates time and space and even the watcher is like how the hell is this thing doing
this and I'm gonna I want to rewatch that now because that's gonna play into into the
multiverse also so they showed multiverse stuff at Cinemicon and it seems like it's getting a
pretty good reaction yeah I'm not surprised with that yeah people love him yeah
Like everybody's in
I'm going to try really hard
And try hard
And I mean
But you liked you liked
Noe A Home
Loved
Okay
So I mean I think that that's where it's gonna play
And I think that they're
And I love Wanda
She's my favorite character
In the MCEU
So I think
You think they're gonna make her the villain
I'm very nervous about it
Well she was in the comics
I know
Yeah
I know
But she's my favorite hero
So they're really
They're really testing my limits
On this one
I think they're gonna test them
I think she's gonna go heal
I think she's going to pull a Roxy Stryor.
Sometimes you have to, Christian.
Sometimes you have to.
Sometimes you have to.
She's going to.
She trusts no one.
This is the truth.
But look, we had a lot to talk about.
We probably could have talked about a lot more.
I know.
If I wasn't so late.
If you're so late, you've got to get the hell out of here.
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