The Kristian Harloff Show - Which villains could replace Kang in the MCU?! | Capes and Cowls
Episode Date: May 26, 2023JOIN the site: http://www.thekristianharloff.com The MCU is in an interesting time right now. What will happen with Kang? Will he be replaced? If so, ComicBookMovie.com gives a list of which villain c...ould replace him? Deadpool 3 started shooting. Good idea? We talk about Elizabeth Olsen's comments on Dr Strange 2 and how the MCU needs some fixing. The Flash is coming out and spoilers are coming with it but by the director himself! AND BOOM STUDIOS IS BACK! This and more on today's Big Thing Capes and Cowls with Kristian, Winston and Coy! #marvel #MCU #fantasticfour #DC #DCU This episode brought to you by BETTER HELP! BETTER HELP: http://www.betterhelp.com/bigthing MANSCAPED: http://www.manscaped.com/bigthing CODE: BIGTHING RUMPL: http://www.rumpl.com/thebigthing CODE: THEBIGTHING OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg
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What's up, everybody?
How do you find a rat hole, guys?
Lift up its tail.
Thanks.
Welcome back to the show, Caves and Cals, everybody.
It is the show amongst shows.
We are going to talk about everything in the world of comic book movies,
and that is Deadpool 3.
Yep, they started filming.
Good move, bad move.
Comic book movie did a list about Kang the Conquer.
What happens if he gets replaced by which villains?
Who are the eight that could do it?
They made a list.
we'll respond to that.
Elizabeth Olson was on our buddy
Josh Harwood's show,
talking about Dr. Strange,
too, and everything,
they're the writers,
and then Koi brought up a good point
as we were starting this,
basically saying that she didn't even know.
She thought John Krasinski was cast
as Reed Richards in the upcoming,
so she's pretty tuned into it all.
And it's not her fault.
It just doesn't seem like anybody's tuned in.
We'll talk about that and more.
And I think there's,
what else?
I mean, oh, yeah,
Koi saw it across the Spider-verse.
We'll get his social kind of reaction to it.
We'll talk about our anticipation for that show.
The Flash is coming out soon.
And Andy Mushetti decided, hey, it doesn't matter.
People have seen it.
I'm going to spoil some of the big reveals for you.
How you feel about that?
And we're not going to talk about what the reveal was,
but we're going to talk about why he did it.
And if you want to hear us talk about the Flash,
but we're going to be doing it with the guys from Double-toasted
at June 23rd in New York, Manhattan,
myself, Brett, Jen,
Kate, Mark Ellis doing stand-up.
I think Corey and Martin might also, I'm not sure.
But we'll definitely be doing the podcast version with those guys at the end.
So you can get tickets now. Get your tickets.
Thechristianeroff.com.
I always tell people saying, when are you going to East Coast?
We're going.
And you guys still haven't bought your tickets.
So it means that you don't like us.
That's it.
It's capes and cows.
It's me.
It's Winston and Coy.
Let's do it, everybody.
Boom.
Thank you.
Perfect.
Great.
Thank you.
Yes, excellent.
Excellent.
Good, good, good.
Stupid day.
This day is the worst.
It really is.
It's so much chaos.
We hear like an hour of just everything going wrong.
I kind of just want to release for the episode,
just how many times we tried to start this.
It's just so many doing things.
We tried to start with microphones, me editing.
These guys showed up, my favorite was this.
These guys showed up 20 minutes late today,
but it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
I was about an hour late at my own place,
meaning I've been editing all day because of things.
That's all I'll say.
And I'm telling you right now that the stuff,
the effort that goes into the shows,
you put out a big thing episode,
and it's like,
okay, look, the viewers are higher than normal.
It's like, yeah, all right, man.
And then you put five, six hours into editing.
Either it's an average or less viewers are looking forward to watching this one
because they want to laugh at your plight.
And it's like,
What?
Watch the freaking videos, will you?
I'm like Roca now.
You don't donate, I'll break your legs!
You're yelling at viewers.
I know.
It's always the method.
Watch the episodes, even though they're watching this one right now.
You're to blame.
It's your fault.
Your faults, everybody.
I'll tell you what's not.
As you guys saw in the beginning, that wonderful intro that Wicked Art did for us.
Look at this.
He's doing a comic.
book for he didn't doing he did one issue one is done of capes and cows and it's going to be exclusive
to the website members ten dollars or not but it's like a full episode and you can get it soon it's
it'll be available probably in june june first is when we're looking at doing it as as pld is watching
this and hearing about this for the first time um but it is not i've been talking to wicked art
about this for quite a while he's been working on it really hard and we're going to be um
offering this but there's coy's speed talker on the left talking to winston
Justin's Black Knight with me, the chairman, on the end there.
It's a full detailed episode.
There's some fun cameos.
I'm dead.
Bitch, I got a Taylor.
It's pretty amazing.
They got the voice accurate.
It's on brand.
It's pretty amazing.
I was really happy with it.
But you had an experience.
You were at the karaoke.
Yeah, I was at karaoke.
A friend of mine, she wanted, we were just celebrating her.
And while I was there, when I was getting ready to leave, I was pretty drunk.
So I apologize ahead of time.
I believe this gentleman's name is in.
It might have been.
Mike, I don't remember.
I'm very similar.
Very similar.
Very.
Sorry.
It could have been Lou.
It might have been Irwin.
John Bob.
When he came up to me.
And he goes, hey, man, I am a massive capes and cows fan.
You guys have really gotten me through some stuff.
And I just want to say thank you.
And then he's just like, here's ten bucks.
Buy a shot on me.
I say, oh.
Do you know what he said right after?
Thanks, Billy.
I appreciate it, Jeff.
He actually gave him 30, but he pocketers.
at all of it. He's like, you remember to get this to coin Christian, but he forgot his name, and he bought the drunk singing the thong song wobbling on, on, I was about to say stilts, on crutches. All right. I was doing the best I could. Stiltz. Stil too. Is this a song? It wasn't that. It wasn't that my girl goes, hey, you need to do something sexy right now. And I said, I thought I was going to sing Luke Bryan's country girl shaking for me because she loves that song. I don't hate that song either, but I was like, something sexy. You got to unleash the dragon. You got to deal with Drew Hill on. This is everything that a guy talks about.
And he whipped at his penis
And knocked over five bar stools
And ten feet away
All I know is
All I know is
There was definitely some other white women
Over there being like
Ooh he's saying about that thong song
And I
Kristen would have gotten upset
If it wasn't for the fact
That some dude came over
And try to become friends with me
And then he goes
Hey so what's the deal with that cute white girl over there
And I was like that's my girlfriend
He goes cool, have a great day
He's like
Wongedonged
Hilarious
But anyway
So that was
Thank you to Ian Jeff Bob Sam
Great guy
Great guy
I'm so sorry.
We kid. We kid.
But the other thing that we were, we did tape that segment to talk about that before and two is one of the many mishaps that we had.
But one of the things I brought up that I want to bring up again is on the website, I do these one-on-one sessions.
There's like 12 spots.
It's like a half an hour piece.
But we added something new, which was great.
And it's at the $35 tier.
You will get a, one of the crew members, it's kind of like a grab bag.
You don't know who you're going to get for 15 minutes.
and Winston just did one.
Steph just did one.
You have not done one yet.
I've not.
I like the challenge of like the Russian roulette of this crew.
Who are you going to get?
What are you going to get?
I love the idea of it.
I feel like I'll have to tell you all off air what happened.
But it was a moment I was just messing with PLB.
Oh.
When?
You know, this for the thing.
You know what?
I don't care.
People do it would be fine.
I literally just one of my favorite pastimes because I do it now with a broken leg.
I mess with people that, you know, but I mess with.
white people about black stuff and
the kid had no idea. That's the only thing you do with something.
I don't know. Kid had a black night.
Kid had no idea that I was
the person coming in but PLD goes, all right
man, so the person you got here, you know,
make sure you work him, work him hard. And I was
like, PLD, did you just tell one
black man to another black man to work him
hard? Are you serious
right now?
The PLD just go, he just goes, I just, I just, that's
what I'm bad. You know I know that person. I'm like, I know you're not
that person, but I'm just going to make sure that we
we took catalog of this and the dude was like,
Mm-mm-mm.
This feels so bad.
I just see Kildee's face right now.
I can see it.
Poor guy.
It's like the sweetest guy in the world.
He really is, which is why I had to do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, too.
Anyway, well, all right, you're real scumbag.
Let's get into some of these topics.
I want to start with the Andy Mushieri thing.
Let's talk about it.
So I'm not going to tell you who, and I don't want to spoil it for you.
I'm just going to get to this part here.
That Muscietti was doing an interview with Variety and he was talking about a
cameo in the feature in the in the article itself and there's you know we know that what they did
with henry cavil was superman and for black adam and then galgadoadot for shazam all that was ruined in
the in the in as the case for shazam they start showing it in the ads you know for for galgado
to get and for henry cavil rock was pretty much in interviews going hey asked me about that thing
right so that was purely
marketing and I get it because I do think that Henry Cavill brought even though it didn't
great I think it's still brought some more money into the theater for sure yeah and did
galgadot bring anyone else into the theater I don't know but that movie needed anything that
it could get clearly because it ate a big pile of dog crap but I don't think that the cameo
that they announced in this thing what I would say after seeing the film yeah I don't think
that that was necessary.
Has there been any news about tracking?
Is this thing not tracking well?
I feel like it's tracking really well.
It's been everyone's talk of the year.
I feel like the flash kind of took over the year's conversation of movies.
I feel like it's the known quantity.
Why would you do that?
The other two movies I understand for the shot,
even though I don't agree with it.
It's a pessimistic view.
It's thirsty as F.
Well, no, I think this is what marketing is now to some people.
Like, I think that you look at how we market movies,
and Fast X wasn't doing poorly.
and another use of Galgadot.
Like, you know, they announced that she's in it.
They announced her in that too?
Publicly.
See, that's stupid.
Bro!
I ain't seen it yet.
It's everywhere.
I'm sorry.
I hate you.
It's been two weeks.
Shut your ass up.
But they said a day three.
That's what's not even the one.
I see, I won't spoil it for you.
I think I know what the other one is.
But there's a post credit scene that deadline ruined for Fast X.
Yeah.
Which is, and then Dan Merle did this whole thing on it where he's like, that's what
scoop culture is.
This guy goes, I got a scoop.
He's like, no, idiot.
you saw the movie and then decided to post about it.
And some people said, well, it could have been universal saying,
go ahead and leave that.
I was in Rome with Universal and they didn't show it to us at the press screening the day before the premiere.
They didn't, they hadn't even aired it when that scoop came out because the scoop came out an hour into, no.
Because the scoop came out an hour into the premiere and it was attached to the premiere for the first time.
Because our screening didn't even have it.
So it wasn't universal because-
Did it's go nuts when you watched it?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was pretty special.
But like, we didn't have it on our press screening, which means it wasn't
universal because they were hiding it even from us.
So someone leak leaked it, but that's what worries me about, like, this new scoop culture is
so many times I do like a non-spoiler review.
And I'm sure you both get this in your comments too.
You do a non-spoiler and it's everyone asking for spoilers.
And people, I'd rather just know.
And it's like what people want is to be spoiled.
Was that Kevin Smets and every comment?
Just every comment.
Just him.
He loves spoilers.
But like, you know, there's that, there's a culture of people like seeking spoilers out.
And then they just like recycle them.
So then you say like, I'm not going to say blah, blah, blah.
And then people copy and paste spoilers into other people.
people's comments and stuff. It's a really, it's a cancer. So I think that people seek it now as part
of the marketing. I mean, I get that and that's, but that's not new. No, but it's been happening.
It's gotten worse. It's gotten worse, but it's different from when it gets worse in the comment
section as opposed to the director going, hey, now it doesn't, what I will say is this,
that the cameo does not spoil any plot points where I do think that the other ones do. Yeah,
the fast ones do. It's, you can, this isn't going to get anybody in the theater. It doesn't
change anything. It's not going to ruin your experience. If you know,
it, it's just not going to get that same kind of like,
whoa, that's an end. I don't think everybody's going to understand
it. I think some people will. The point of those
moments is the surprise. So why are you're at the
surprise? Like you engineered this
moment to be like exciting because it's novel.
You get rid of the novelty if I go like, well, I read
that. Yeah, and it doesn't, the other thing is too
that it did seem, as you said
thirsty before, I think
that it's, and as much as I love the rock, I think the
Henry Cavill thing was about as thirsty as you get because you do it's like
we need to get people in and watch this movie.
I don't think this one is that. Because this
isn't a matter of you from when you find out what it is it's not something that's going to it's
not a hand-maker break it's not something that people are going to go i need to buy tickets for this it's just
cool and it and it doesn't have anything to really do with with anything it what it feels like to me
and this is just how we've become as a society when you consider like how content is fed to us
and how we interact with social media and now everything is a binge theory model i think it's this
idea that we just don't have patience and i don't know if maybe andy was just too
hype or if it was planned.
Wonder Brothers had to sign off on it.
So if that's the case, then
unfortunately, people are
looking at this and thinking that let's just further
give into that. And I don't think
that that is the right move. I think like a
parent that like when your child goes, I wanted
and I want it now, a parent goes, you sit you the last
down and you wait. Right. I think it would have made
more sense to just let us wait for it
and let it happen. I agree. And I think that another thing
that would be beneficial to them is the movie comes
out, air that the next day.
Yeah. How that be your second wave?
Look, if you have not seen the movie,
that's mine and central.
Don't read this yet.
And it's, it's all these, and maybe, maybe Vanity Fair or whatever it was,
it was, it was Vanity Fair, Variety, I don't know, variety, I think.
Whatever it was, I don't know if they did or not,
but like I was reading off of Dark Horizons.
What they did very well was they said,
don't read past this line if you don't want to be spoiled.
I don't know if Variety did that.
It seems a lot of times, the worst spoil that I've ever gotten
that I was furious about.
Tobin McGuire's dick.
No.
That I was furious about was.
was the one that I was absolutely furious about
was the Harry Potter.
It was the third one.
It was the third one?
No, no, I just finished the third one.
I read the book.
I was reading the three books.
And then I saw the movies.
And then I had not read the other ones yet.
And Entertainment Weekly, I don't care
if you haven't seen the Harry Potter movies.
Now I'm going to spoil something.
It's been a decade and a half.
It's been a while enough.
If you haven't seen it, I don't care.
Bruce Willis is dead at the end of six cents.
Right.
So I'm reading this article and the movies are like,
well, I wonder how they're going to handle it,
being that Gary Oldman's character dies in book five.
And I'm like, what are you doing?
These movies haven't come out.
Don't expect that everyone has read these things.
What are you doing?
I was so upset because it didn't say spoiler.
It didn't say anything.
It just like matter of fact.
And it's like, hey, a hole face.
Cut it out.
And that's like this.
And that, but see, I got spoiled because the image of the cameo was,
someone posted that on social media as their image.
And it didn't give me the chance.
Didn't say spoiler because it was on Instagram.
It was on a platform where it's just images.
And I found out because I was scrolling, just not avoiding.
Because I've muted Flash and I've muted some words.
It's tough to.
Once it's out, it's hard to avoid when the director's telling people about it.
And that's probably why the particular person that you saw said, okay, the director's talking about it.
It's part of the marketing.
Right.
But either way, I don't see the need for this particular one.
I think when you guys see the movie, you'll agree with it.
me. I just don't see, like, it's not one of those things. If it was tracking, and even if it was
tracking bad, even if it was tracking bad, which it isn't, if it was, I don't think this is something
that's like, oh, you know what? Well, he said that person's going to be in it. I'm going to see it now.
That's, it's not, I can see that with the Henry Cavilling. I don't see it with this, but maybe I'm
wrong. I'm very curious to hear what you guys think. Go ahead and comment. Let me know exactly what you
think. All right. Next story here. All right, guys, Deadpool 3. It started filming today, or yesterday, rather.
And there's more speculation that Hallie Berry is going to return as Storm in this particular movie.
There was a new photo that was shared by Barry on social media and has led to speculation about the actress reprising the role of Storm in Deadpool 3.
Now, Deadpool 3, we know that it has either had begun production or is about to.
There was, I think, the actor who plays Cyclops, not Cyclops Colossus, posted something and then quickly removed it because I always pick.
Like the Sebastian of these executives calling on,
Hey, guys, what are you doing?
Do you know that right now there's a rider strike
and you're posting on your little Instagram
that you have a job?
What's wrong?
And quickly.
And the role of Kevin Faggy played by Sebastian Stan
in all upcoming films.
Yeah.
Sebastian, has he ever done like a biopic, a Menacello?
Has he ever, like,
played someone else?
He's got a movie coming out this weekend with De Niro
about my father. It's about
him. Yeah? But he's serious?
Yeah. Him and Burt have opposing
movies coming out. Oh, no. I know the machine was out. And then
he's got, and Sebastian is
about my father, which is De Niro plays his dad.
No way. Oh, you mean
it's actually called about my father? I thought he was
doing a movie about your father.
As you look up, there's a poster of the two days. He's playing my dad.
He's my pups.
You know, I haven't talked to him.
back. But I was thinking
your dad kind of looks like
Don't damn a brown.
The Papa Harlov's story.
No, no, no. He's doing a movie with De Niro.
I had no idea. That's crazy. The trailer's pretty funny.
Good for you. Anyway.
Berks movie looks great. I heard it's good. Yeah, either way.
So
with Deadpool. We'll talk about Deadpool first.
Deadpool started filming
and the writer's strike happens. And the rules are
because I talked about this on big thing yesterday.
the rules are essentially that because Ryan Reynolds is a writer on the movies,
he is not allowed to improvise anything.
So the script that they have that was turned in before the writer strikes,
so you're not crossing any lines.
People can have their opinions of whether or not they should do it or should not do it.
But they're in the means.
They're in the legal thing to do or not scabish, if you will.
But they can't change anything.
They can't have anybody else write.
You think whatever that script is, that's it.
But I think the bigger one that you said is no improvising.
And the thing is the issue with that and you're really playing with fire,
I understand Ryan Reynolds is like a regular in the industry for decades now.
For somebody that comedy is coming that quickly, what's to stop a slip from happening?
And obviously they have the script so they can look at it and go, we have to cut that.
That's what it is.
You know, but I just, it seems not worth it.
Just wait.
Your idea.
Yeah, this is the reason.
So this is why.
what I think, and I talked about this briefly on yesterday's show.
This is where you could see them going in their meeting to where they go, okay, so we have to start
shooting this. We have to follow this script. So Sean Levy and Reynolds go, well, this is what
we're going to do. We're going to get all the exterior shots. We're going to get all the stuff
that we can get, you know, we can get some action scenes. We get all of the stuff that is just simple
one-liners. We get other characters that don't have to improvise.
can just talk, shoot their scenes, and in more comedic things, we wait.
We plan that out later, and then we also can do reshoots down the line.
I think the mask is going to help a lot.
Because if you got them talking and then later in ADR, because a lot of that's miming in ADR later,
and I think that'll allow the improvving, but I do worry that this strike might last longer than a shooting schedule.
That's my next point.
My next point was that if they're crossing their free, because normally these shoots can take any of between four, five months, right?
Yeah. So if they start today and doing exteriors and action and everything, and that pushes you into July where they're crossing their fingers, hoping that July, some people say July August, I think this thing's going into 2024.
I'm worried it's 4-1.
It's not just that.
We're in the middle of, I mean, Koi and I are both in the, I don't, are you in SAG?
So we all just, we're in the middle of the voting process to authorize a strike for SAG.
So fine, you're going to get three weeks in and then all of a sudden you're going to have to fully shut down.
I have to shut down.
That's what I said.
I said, game over.
Yeah, if SAG joined.
And I feel like it's almost inevitable.
I don't know, because if they're going into production, because they're not dumb, they know that that's the case too.
So I think they're going to try to get that done sooner and later because Winston said, well, why wouldn't you just, before we start shooting?
So why wouldn't you just push it back?
The problem is you got to, again, look at Disney.
We're using Disney as this example.
And I use Strange World and Lightyear as two examples of movies that lost them close to 200.
or $300 million a piece, right?
Wow. They lost a lot of money, then plus all the damage that Chepec did with all the streaming stuff and all that.
They're in a hole.
Yeah.
Deadpool 3 is one of their moneymakers, right?
So they need, and that movie's supposed to come out.
It's supposed to come out in June or February of next year.
I think they moved it to June.
I think it was a early February.
I think it's a summer release.
Either way, and that proves my point more, that they're really confident in what it can do because of what the first two movies did,
pushing it into the summer, making all this money, and getting production.
amped up to go, but then they have to have movies in production in order to have money
coming in later on. Look, here's where I'm kind of like, you know what would solve all these
problems? Just negotiate because you're losing more money in theory by trying to wait this out.
And that's really the danger. They're not losing money at waste. No, not for not yet. The city is losing
Los Angeles as an industry is losing $3 million or $30 million a day. Sure, but the studios care about
the studios don't give a F. No, no, no, no, I understand that. But that, that, that,
That includes what they're bringing in or not bringing in from these things by this not happening.
So I understand that, but I'm saying the faster money-saving thing is to just negotiate.
Well, but they're waiting to negotiate until their contracts that they have already run out and then they can save all that money.
Again, we talked about this kind of various times.
They wanted this to happen.
Yeah.
They don't necessarily want the sad thing to happen, but they want this to happen.
They certainly don't want the DGA to strike.
No.
Like that's when it's going to be over quicker.
Right.
So they wanted, but they wanted this to happen because of all the streaming deals and everything that was put in place,
deals that they don't have to honor anymore because they either expire or all these other stuff,
they can get, they don't have to do it.
So they're waiting for it.
And so July is really when they're going to start negotiating.
Now, that's why I think it's going to go further, because when they really start negotiating,
it is not going to go, okay, let's go back to work.
That sounds good.
Yeah, it's a good job.
Thanks, guys.
I think with Deadpool in particular, since that's what we're talking about, I think the scheduling of the amount,
of stars that I think are going to be in this movie.
I do think the Halliberry rumor is true because I do
think it's going to be Deadpool kills the Fox Universe, which
would have been saying since Collider. I think
this movie is going to be a continuity cleaning
device, which is going to be delightful because only Deadpool could do
it. But that means you had to schedule all these
A-list talents a year ago.
So I think the reason they're forced into filming is
if you want to make a movie, you
front-load it with all the crazy scheduling
and then you allow for
a little run-over as you go along.
So it could work that you have all the guest stars,
all the cameos, all the insanity.
film now, but you have to live by that script and you get all that done while the schedule works.
And then you hope the strike doesn't happen and then you do all the voiceover.
But the thing is that could happen.
It could. And then everything's messy.
Is that the further along it goes, even if Sagda and DJ don't go on strike and they're shooting,
you're shooting on one script.
Yeah.
And you're shooting on borrowed time.
You can't change.
So it's inevitable that once the strike is done, maybe again why it's pushed into June,
that you're going to get rushed reshoots.
What really worries me, not having the improv, but then also just from any number of stuff that I've done, you need the room to be able to change things around.
Because stuff happens.
Stuff works on the day.
You're like, oh, that's brilliant.
Let's this, yes and that.
Yeah.
They're going to be in a position where they're going to, this happened.
How many, it was something I, like a really famous movie.
I can't remember what it was.
And they were talking about something and somebody did something.
It's like a, I can't remember.
It was like a really famous moment.
Somebody did it on the spot.
And the director's like, yeah, go with that.
Do that instead.
It happens a lot. Like the Martian with Donald Lover, when Donald Lover falls and they keep that shot of him.
That makes his character. That's his introduction.
If there's a moment that happens, and that's a great question. Let's say someone falls.
Yeah. And let's say something. That's not in the script. They have to cut it out?
Yep. Right. Unless, but they can keep it, but they keep the footage and hope that the strike is done.
And they go, let's remember that shot. But if they get to a place where it's still going on, it's crazy.
I can't think of a more improv necessary comic book movie than that one. Absolutely.
And I can't think of a more
necessary movie for Marvel than Deadpool 3.
Like I would argue Deadpool 3 is the
pre-Avangers Avengers as far as what they need.
And it's also the thing they need to be improv-heavy.
So this is the worst-case scenario for a movie filming right now.
But I don't see any other option because they've set a release date
and they've also set all these characters and actors.
They're in a lose-lose situation.
I'm just hoping.
Especially with Blade getting the hit again.
Dude, that movie's been shut down more than started.
You think Blade's going to happen?
I think Blade has to happen, but I don't, like, I don't know.
I think Merchula wants it really bad.
I think Kevin Feigy knows how important it is.
That's the better question.
Do you think it happens with Marhershla?
I say no.
I think Marharsal is going to say, I think he's going to be done with it, dude.
I think he's going to say, enough is enough.
I'm out.
I think he's really invested, but, man, it'd be frustrating because he's invested.
That's what I'm saying, but it's been pushed back because of writers and directors,
and then now because of the strike, I mean, they're going to have to rework it
and how it even plays into the MCU.
He's going, if I'm him, I'm going, you know what, stick me in D.C.
Or stick me in Star Wars or something.
I'm out of here.
He's got new mutants pretty hard.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what?
You know what is actually really interesting?
And I think that this is kind of a weird, just like way to hindsight 2020 this.
Obviously, you have to put out a good product to go on a run like the MCU did for the first three phases.
Yeah.
But similar to a sports team that, like, does go and win the championship, you also just kind of have to be healthy.
And to be honest with you, what's really screwing them now is, like you said, before we were talking about that the pandemic,
hamstrung the hell out of them. Consider that a massive, like, injury bug for all the players, doing all these sports analogies.
And now with these strikes coming up, too, that's a whole other string of injuries that's screwing your flow up.
And to go with your sports analogy, Chepec was an overwrought coach that was trying to play his players to the ground.
So everyone was unhealthy because they were burned them out.
Yes, they were dehydrated.
Exactly. Chepec never gave them the electrolytes.
And then now we've got players that are sick and they're playing anyway.
And we had like a bunch of bad games because we played bad conditions COVID.
Because he added like eight more games to the schedule.
Exactly.
Yeah.
They're fine.
They're fine.
We got this.
We're MVP's.
And then COVID Kim and we're playing in the mud.
It wasn't good.
So like I really think.
Do you think this is a segment?
It's just like a 30 second segment.
People love this.
It's so easy to do because of all the stuff that, how it worked out.
Also the mediums totally.
We talked about UFC.
I think that honestly, the biggest one I've seen that ties into what I think of
with sporting is that Connor fighting Kabib.
as a wrestler is like releasing movies on streaming
when they should be in theaters.
Like it's just not,
you can be the best athlete you want.
You can be incredibly the thing,
but you can't make money doing a thing
that's $200 million on a streamer.
Connor shouldn't have tried to wrestle Khabib
and it changed his whole morale.
And now he's not the same fighter.
And Marvel's not the same studio.
Yeah, I mean, well, there's just too much.
There was too much,
and they added too much to the training camp, if you all.
Yeah.
But either way, what's happening with...
Sports.
Yeah, what's happening with this movie, Deadpool, it's, I get why they're doing it.
I do.
I think it definitely handcuffs them.
I think they're going to do what they can to shoot as much as they can.
It's going to be, I think Disney's prepared to do a lot of reshoots because they're going to need it.
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So Elizabeth Olson, you know, or is Wanda.
And she's a scarlet witch.
And she was in multiverse of madness.
So she was talking to our buddy Josh Harwitz on his show Happy, Sad, Confused, which is great.
If you haven't checked it out, you should.
And she was reflecting on the sequel's seemingly endless rewrites confirming that early plans for Daniel Craig to make a cameo appearance was also happening.
And this is, again, coming from a comic book movie.
He said that while it already appeared from watching the movie itself, we learned that Dr. Strange had a ton of rewrites.
And basically inside of this whole thing, I read this article on yesterday's show that she had said,
that there were so many different rewrites every time that eventually she was just like just give me the stuff that I need to do because there was just so much happening and with pandemic and everything that was going on it was just it was exhausting after a bit right and she also confirmed that Daniel Craig was set to play there was rumors that he was set to play with Thor's brother what was his what does his name it's hold on a second not Loki um where is it I'll tell you right now said that the guy's name was balder the brave oh that's right I remember
in that.
Yeah, so Balder the Brave, and Craig had denied it.
It's never going to happen.
She's like, oh, yeah.
It's going to have.
And they built a costume out and everything from.
I don't know why that hadn't happened.
And then you saw the whole interview.
So did they say something along the lens?
So what was that?
So basically, like, he asked her about Adam Driver playing Mr. Fantastic.
And she was, like, confused because she thought John Krasinski was playing him.
Like, why would they do that?
Right.
I can't believe the lack of communication because, like, it's not like she's not an event.
Well, like, she clearly wants to be just removed and do her part.
Yeah.
But it speaks more to the fact that they don't have a conversation about the big picture in a way that feels like it's productive for her.
Because as an actress, she's really invested in the character.
Like, I interviewed her for this movie and we talked about the comic influences, the run she enjoyed, what she wants to do in the future, the overall arc of her character, and the passion's there.
And her investment's there because she did the homework.
She did the research.
What blows my mind is Kevin Feige looks at a 10-year plan and he's got all these ideas and he knows where he wants.
wants things to go. It's like there's something in the middle that doesn't happen.
Yeah. And that's what's crazy is Kevin Feigy knows what he wants. Kevin Feige's been very clear
about the fact that he cast John Krasinski for a moment because he wanted the fans to have
their moment, but it was only for that moment. The fact that the communication doesn't get back to
Liz Elizabeth Olson about that is odd to me considering that's going to impact her in the future
potentially most likely. Right. Question. Is it possible that this very talented actress was
just acting when she said, I thought it was John Krasinski.
Nah, what is she, she's got no...
I don't think she has any reason to.
She's got no investment in it.
She's not going to be in anything.
She's like, what does she care at this point?
It's like, but yeah, she probably just not is not tuned into it.
You know, she, like, they even asked her, Josh asked her.
I think it was in the same interview.
He basically said, what do you do when someone you know, like, does this happen?
Like an actor who says like, hey, I'm thinking about doing a Marvel movie.
Like, should I not do this?
What should I do?
And she's like, yeah, I get that.
He's like, what do you normally say to them?
And she's like, I don't know if I should say.
She goes, I say give him one is what she said.
Give them one.
That to me is just like, she spent a lot of times that character, man.
She spent a lot of time.
And then especially at the end, like, you can, I think that she was also playing in it.
She's a pro.
And I think she was, if you got her with a microphone off, and she's still a pretty, pretty telling interview.
But if you got it with off, she'd probably be like, it's so frustrating.
And I couldn't believe, like, her sound by.
I don't think it was from Josh's show, it was recently, about how the writers didn't watch Wanda Vision.
I think she was pissed about it.
I can't confirm that, but from what I've gotten to her things, and it makes sense.
And I don't care.
That's one, as you said before, why don't they push it a little bit?
And I was like, you know, you can't because of the schedule and everything, too.
And I understand that that might be the same answer.
But if you're trying to make a Marvel Cinematic Universe that ties into everything, and it makes sense,
it behooves you to have your writers watch the freaking show.
And if it's not done, read the scripts.
Like, there's a version of it.
There's a way. There's a way you can know what's going on.
It's the same thing I said last week.
This is essentially, even though it's done with movies,
it's this giant writer's room.
You have to know what happens episodes 1 through 8 before you write 9.
Like you at least need to have the outline of what's happening.
You can't just do whatever the hell you want.
That to me is also, that was during the Chepec regime.
I think Chepec cared about continuity.
that's why he had this movie be so many different things because, you know, we lost Scott Derrickson on it.
We changed to like a director not long now.
And like, and I love Scott's work.
And I would have loved to have seen.
And like, no disrespect to Sam Ramey because he made a great Sam Rame movie, but it wasn't connected to the MCU in a way that I felt validated the character's arc.
And then I would have loved to have seen what Scott wanted to do with that character.
And I feel like maybe that's what, you know, Elizabeth Olson also like she, she is so passionate about the character.
I don't think any of this is her not wanting to.
I think it's her being frustrated and going like,
stop sending me scripts.
Like, I will read it when we have it
because this is already not what I want to be doing.
Because it's changing every five seconds.
It's like, am I shooting this?
Am I not shooting?
That's pressing on an actor.
Like to learn those roles and then it's those lines.
And then it's like, oh, no, no, we actually,
we're doing something else now.
She's like, just send me what I'm supposed to do.
That and remember, she did come off of that show,
which is its own level of work to do all that.
And on top of that, as prolific as an actress as she is at this point,
another show she just did came out,
the one with Jesse Plymouth.
The one with Jesse Plymouth where they're doing like a,
they have like an affair or something like that.
So it's like she's got a lot to do.
And to read a script, you know,
and then really dive in and do your homework,
like you mentioned is a lot of,
so at one point you're like,
I'm done, I'm not doing this again.
But that's my point.
Like if you're off doing all those stuff
and trying to do something outside of Marvel now
to establish yourself,
you think you care who's cast as Reed Richards
if you don't have to?
You think you care?
No.
So the same argument is like if she's not involved in their timeline, it's really not on them to even tell her that.
No, it's not on them.
It's just it's odd to me that in her own movie, she didn't realize that that moment was only for that purpose.
Like in her own universe, like she literally killed him.
So like in that moment, that communication, not about Fantastic Four movie, but the fact that she thought that he would play, like, yeah, it was a one off for Fagi always.
Right.
So that seems odd to me that since she literally is the one that ends him.
Maybe Feige wasn't the telling truth.
Maybe Krasinski was in the lead to maybe play him and he didn't want to do it.
Or maybe they wanted to offer him a deal to direct it.
And maybe it's like, it's not working out.
I don't want to do it.
I don't want to be locked in and do that many.
Anything creative moves a lot.
I don't envy Figey because we look to him going like, hey, what's the truth?
And like it, there is no one truth because you're right.
It does change constantly.
So you're right.
I mean, anything could have evolved.
It is interesting that both Krasinski and Kevin Faggy have said the same thing about it.
And that doesn't register with her experience.
Yeah, right, but that also could be an agreement between the two of them to say, like, hey, let's just in the media.
Let's just say this.
I also think that you call it what is.
I just think that the Marvel luster, the shine has gone down a bit for actors and talent as well, too.
It's like the money hasn't, but the shine for the property, it's like, remember, there was a time when you put out a Marvel movie.
It's like critics loved it.
Everybody loved it.
It was just, it seemed like it was just Teflon.
Yeah.
It's not the case anymore.
But that's inevitable.
Right.
Nothing lasts forever.
Like, you know, Rome fell.
Yeah.
Everything just ebbs and flows.
Yeah.
Right?
It was the empire.
MCU was the Rome of comic book movies.
It really, really was.
And it's like, I don't think Rome's burning yet.
I don't think Rome's burning.
I didn't say it's over.
I didn't say Rome's burning.
You can so visit Rome.
There were times, there were times, again, if we're going past now sports references,
There were times when Julius Caesar was running the joint and it was at its height.
And then there were other times when there was Nero burnt the thing down and other stuff.
But it went through ebbs and flows.
It feels like I'm going to go full sports again.
This feels like the Warriors.
It feels like this idea that they had this dynasty that they kind of ran like throughout the what the teen thousands,
the teen 2000s or whatever.
And like now they still made the playoffs, but they just didn't really have that same hit.
even though they won a championship last year,
they just didn't have that same kind of sauce.
It's kind of the same thing.
I think you have the Shang Chi, you have the Spider-Man,
that it's like, oh, we won a chip,
but like it's up and down.
It's up and down.
Yeah, and I think that that's why one of the reasons,
as Coy said before,
they're really pushing Deadpool because they need it.
They need Deadpool, they need a big,
the big one.
And it's also something Coy had said many times over,
is that the Marvel's is the last movie that they have,
that was written in the same mindset as the other ones that we just saw.
You know, now I'm not saying reshoots maybe didn't change that up or other things too,
but it's the same one.
So they hopefully deliver on it.
Yeah.
And it ends it pretty well, and they could start kind of maneuvering into a new thing.
So, anyway, a couple other things I wanted to talk to you guys about.
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one of the things that I wanted to talk to Koi about, it's a pretty big story.
Coy was one of the few people that got a chance to see across the Spider-Verse.
You know, you can't say much.
Yeah, so the social embargoes up can say that it was the first screening of the completed film
and that, what can I say, that would be about the sentence link?
I think it was genius in the amount of drama it trusted the audience to have and that the metamodernism of Lord and Miller is used really interestingly here in a new way and that it might be my favorite Spider-Man film of all time.
And that includes Spider-Verse.
That includes No Way Home and everybody knows how much I love those two.
It is so special and it elevates the entire medium of animation all over again like Spider-Bist did.
It's 220.
Wow, it's pretty long for an animated film.
And it's very powerful.
It's, man, it got me.
It's 220? Yeah.
It's a lot.
That's long.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, I'm,
that's like three tweets worth.
I'm here for it.
I just animated films, you know, you're clocking at 90 minutes.
No, no, it's, it's 220.
And it doesn't feel long at no point was I thinking about the length of the movie,
but I definitely am really glad it wasn't rushed like some things could be,
especially with how much stimuli.
Like you've seen the, it's a lot.
It could, you know, something.
Sometimes you can edit those and make it be like, okay, we've got to finish you up.
This time at...
Two hours and 20 minutes.
I thought you were saying 220 minutes long.
And I was like, what time?
That's three hours and 40 minutes.
No, no, two hours and 20 minutes, which is still, you know, ample.
It's still long.
It's still long.
But it doesn't, it doesn't...
It doesn't feel that way.
It doesn't bend under the weight of itself.
It doesn't feel long in the tooth.
Exactly.
Okay.
Yeah, there you go.
All right.
Absolutely adored it.
And I would recommend seeing it sooner than later as far as how the internet.
I'm afraid the TV spots.
might even. Like I'm afraid that... I'm not watching anything else on it. And you shouldn't, I think.
I thought the last trailers gave away too much anyway.
That's less of a concern than... I'm excited to talk to you about it because we differed on that.
But I do think that it's a movie that I appreciated having the experience of novelty with. And we just talked about the thing that was
showed by WB. I don't think Sony will go that far, but I do think there are things that word of mouth might change.
Got it. All right. Well, look, that is across the spider.
Those are really like social thoughts more than anything else.
And myself, I think Winston, are you going to see it next week?
I'm going with you.
You're going with me, right?
Okay, so Winston's going to see it with me next Tuesday.
And we'll have our out of the theater reactions out on that.
And then we're going to be talking, obviously, for Capes and Cal's next week, kind of the preview of it.
And then we'll do a full spoiler on that movie on the Monday following it.
So just make sure you check that out.
All right.
I do want to talk about this comic book movie list.
So let's jump into it.
Here we go.
Okay, so comic book movie has done a few different lists before.
They did a Batman casting list.
They did a green lantern casting list.
Now, this is an interesting list.
This is eight villains who could replace Jonathan Majors,
Kang the Conquer, as the Multiverse's saga New Big Bad.
Now, I'm just going to go over.
This is from Josh Wilding over at Comic Book movie.
I'm just going to read who they think it could be.
Now, obviously, with the troubles that Majors is going.
going through right now is a potential.
Not only does he not only get recast, if he doesn't get recast,
could they replace him with different villains?
And the first one is, and correct me if I pronounce any of these wrong, because I might.
I got you.
Maestro.
Maestro.
Maestro.
There you go.
Maestro is right away.
Maestro is the first.
I know nothing about this person.
This would be a major pivot, but even if greater than the Kang is about to emerge from
multiverse, why not this formidable Hulk variant?
Hailing from a post-apocalyptic reality, Maestro is a brutal tyrant who is
stronger, more experience, and more ruthless and sadistic than his current self, despite not
having the most story history on the page. You could easily serve as the basis for turning the
Kang dynasty into World War Hulk. So that's my stroke. The next one is Dr. Doom, which is what a lot of
people thought anyway. Comic books have long toy with the idea of Doom and Kang being related. Either
way, the latter is definitely inspired by Fantastic Four. There's no denying it would be tough to
throw this villain into the mix of the history where the family isn't, the first family
isn't explored beforehand, but that's not necessarily the case.
In fact, his defeat at Reed Richard's hands could even be prompts Doom to target the team
in their future adventures.
Okay, that was Doom.
Number six, Ultron.
Marvel Studios would need to tread carefully here, particularly as they would run the risk
of repeating what we've already seen and what if.
However, Ultron's return is long overdue and a live action Infinity Ultron might be the way
to do it if Kang needs to be replaced.
The story could be changed a little, and the results,
a chance of being epic.
All right.
And then five,
anus.
The ultimate foe.
Especially after the lunch,
the dinner we just had.
How's that pizza?
That's right.
So a nihilus,
who is,
looks like an Iron Man.
A fantastic four villain
received a major upgrade
on the page when he headed into
outer space
and assembled an army
that led to the cosmos.
So yada, yada, yeah.
Loki.
No, God, no.
Not Loki again.
Please.
as a villain.
Loki was where we first introduced
the MCUs on the multiverse.
It won't be injured
end game variant, yada, yada, yada.
So Loki is another option.
Iron Lad.
That is an offshoot of Kang.
Yeah, it's a variant of Kang,
which is part of the Young Avengers
and he disguises himself
and reveals himself.
It's a big twist.
Spoiler alert for the Young Avengers.
Interesting.
Okay, and then two is Apocalypse.
It's not bad.
You're bringing in mutants anyway.
Yeah, Apocalypse.
And then one is the Beyonder.
Which I feel like we're getting anyway
because of the Seager Wars.
So actually you want to go first?
Do you want to go through it?
Yeah.
So all these.
I don't understand any of these.
I think the best, I'm assuming that Beyonder's already coming because of Secret Wars.
I had actually assumed they were going to use Kang as a Beyonder stand in because of the character being very like of the time.
Like the track suit, the Jerry Curles.
You know what I mean?
So I thought Kang might just be the thing.
But there's an element of the Beyonder that's like a fish out of war.
So sorry.
The Beyonder is the kind of creator, kind of a God figure that is putting the Secret War together.
So he wants to know who would win good or bad
and basically makes like a chessboard and picks good and bad
and like pits him against each other.
And then when all the catastrophic trauma to the space time force of reality
makes a patchwork, Doom runs that battle world.
So that's why Doom comes into play in a big way and the more recent secret wars.
I'm exhausted hearing all.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
It's a lot.
But I think I think that probably the three best on there are Beyonder Doom.
And honestly, Maestro isn't a terrible one,
especially because people have been asking for more Hulk anyway and feeling, a lot of people feeling like, oh, we do, Professor Hulk is fine, but people are just missing like Hulk.
Maestro is essentially if you took Professor Hulk, but then made him a ruthless serial killer.
He's like a dictator Hulk.
So wouldn't they introduce him in like, because you said that Cap 4 is very Hulk oriented.
It's time.
You could do it now.
And I think with the Hulu merger with Disney Plus, that does allow for a different universal relationship.
because what I thought is that Universal wants more steak and Hulu,
and if they start to blend that together,
maybe they could barter for the Hulk rights and the Namor writes.
That was the rumor.
So I think that Hulk right now being his own solo thing,
you could do maestro, maestro, I say it like you do.
But I also think that he does deal with time elements.
So he's not in control of time,
but you've got these time things they need to solve with Kang.
So for me, at all the ones that I hear,
I mean, when you look at them as separate entities, right?
like Ultron could be interesting, but like they say,
the problem is how much related to the what-if storyline.
And then the other thing is he just didn't come off as devastating
as I think they wanted him to in the Second Avengers,
which I think is, if you go back and watch,
I think he's better than people give him credit for,
but I still think it not as devastating
and was never, like, you know, thought of as one of the great villains.
Well, part of the problem with that is, like,
whenever you have Ultron in that regard,
it's always a situation where,
not only does he do something ridiculous,
but then he just auto-regenerates.
and all of a sudden he had buried himself
inside of, I don't know, Iron Man's suit
and then you realize, oh, he's actually been alive
this entire time and now he's worse.
Like in the Avengers Assemble cartoon,
there was a robot that was holding the Infinity Stones for them
and that's how you ended up with Infinity Ultron
is because he's like, I actually buried my coat in here
and thank you for giving me the gems
and now he's all powerful.
So like there's ways to do it.
The only reason, like I said,
I don't think he should be the one
but the reason why him and, like, Dr. Doom,
are the ones I go, maybe because they're recognizable names to people.
But if I'm going to choose, even though I can't remember whatever the freaking names were,
like the variance of Kang would be the way to go.
Iron Lad, it would be a very easy way to insert Young Avengers earlier in the timeline
and you might have already done it and then have the reveal at the end of a Young Avengers movie,
they all have to fight of that guy.
And then at the end, you find out that the guy that's been like,
you thought the new replacement for Ironman, especially because there's going to be so many people that are like,
oh, I don't like Iron Heart, I want an Iron Man, and then cast someone young and charming like Downey Jr.
as an Iron Man, and then reveal he's the bad guy.
And then have it be like, well, I loved him.
And that would be a way to have the variant introduced seamlessly.
The only thing I think that is problematic in a situation like that is, if you cast, let's say if you cast a new Kang and it's a white dude.
Right.
Yeah.
People, it's going to be a conversation, I think, is.
right to have it. It's like, well, wait a minute. So you're getting rid of this,
you're getting rid of this actor, black actor, really great actor with a big role and you're
replacing them now. The young white guy. Now, I'm not telling you that it can't be done. I'm not
telling you that it shouldn't be done. I'm just telling you that that conversation is going to happen
and they've got to be aware of that because it's also absolutely fair for people to ask that
question. It's like, so I think that it's, it's just tricky, man. They're in a spot. They're
Because on the other side, like the high evolutionary fold-in feels like everybody's like, well, they've got an African-American villain and just sub them in.
And that feels weirdly, like, bad, too.
Like, Tim, I don't know if that's...
No, no, no, no, I agree.
I think the way you go...
I take all that back.
Doom would...
If not Doom, I think you do go Apocalypse.
And the reason why is Apocalypse has been a universal problem at points before, like he's...
Through time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, like a new Thanos.
And he was done terribly in the last one.
Yeah, they also need to fix him, which would be nice to solve it the right way.
Yeah.
Yeah. So, I mean, look, as Koi said, this is not an easy fix. No matter what they do, they're going to get words. And someone to be upset.
No matter what they do. Someone's going to be, especially the time that we live in today, there's going to be people who are righteously upset. There's going to people who are just upset to be upset.
There's people who are going to think it's a bad move. They're going to people think it's a great move. Who knows what the hell they're going to do? Or the other thing is, they might not recast.
Yeah. We still don't know. And that's.
I mean, these are fun to read and look at, but we still don't know.
And like, worst case scenario, these are fun villains we might get later.
Like, anilus, I think will come into Fantastic Four.
Like, there will be the thing.
But they don't need to make this call yet.
No.
Because, you know, you've got the marvels coming out.
Secret invasion's coming out, right?
You have to be developing a plan.
Secret invasion.
Secret invasion right now.
You need to be developing a plan.
You do not have to pull the trigger on anything, but you do need to be ready so that whatever happens with this legal stuff, then you have something to go.
But you know what's great?
Everything's on pause because of the strike, which means we have time to actually find out facts about the Jonathan Major's case.
Which I think is a beautiful, like I'd like to know what actually happened.
They can't rush.
So we can actually find out what happened.
Right.
Because that case ain't kind of stop because of the writer's strike.
Right.
That's going to move in the timely manner that it was supposed.
You know the court sonographer is part of the judge?
I'm off.
I can't.
I'm out.
Figure it out.
Figure it out.
I'm out.
I'm out.
Anyway, so what do you guys think?
How do you think it should go?
Let me know.
Before we take off, we're excited because Boom Studios, everybody, Boom's back.
Whenever we talk about Boom, we're always talking about the great comics and everything that happened.
We've always talked about how they're evolving as a studio.
Well, there's always exciting news around Boom.
And especially recently, they have two of their comics that are now going to make their jump to TV.
Because coming up in August is Metcadets on Netflix.
It's an animated series based on the Boom comic Metcadette U by Greg Pack and Takeshi Miyazawa.
The series takes place 50 years in the future following an alien invasion that nearly ended our species.
The defenders of our planet are the SkyCorps, and once a year,
mysterious giant robots from outer space visit Earth and they choose a Sky Corps to bond with.
Teenager, Stanford U is just a janitor at the SkyCorps Academy,
but when he inadvertently bonds with a Robo-Mec, he finds himself thrust into the action in the face of a new alien invasion.
Earlier this month, the voice cast for the series was revealed,
with Brandon Suhu, the voice of Beast Boy in the recent DC animated movie starring as Stanford.
Daniel Day Kim, he will play General Aidan Park, the leader of SkyCorps Academy.
Ming Na Wen, love Ming Na Wen, will play Dali Yu.
And Deborah Wilson, who recently reprised her Star Wars role in the new video game Jedi Survivor,
will play Chief Max, a former Robo Pilot and mentor to the young trainees.
What a cast.
The series is going to premiere on Netflix on August 10th, and if you want to catch up on the comic
before then a new MEC cadets book one collection
containing the original 12 issues
is available to pre-order now.
Speaking of Daniel Day Kim,
he's got a second project in the works with Boom Studios
with an adaptation of the graphic novel,
Butterfly, which was announced this week.
Kim will be both executive producer and star in the new series,
which has been given a full series order at Prime Video.
The original graphic novel was created by Arash Amel,
written by Amel and Marguerite Bennett,
and illustrated by Antonio Fuso and Stefano Simone.
The series will follow a former U.S. intelligence operative living in South Korea whose life is blown to pieces
when the consequences of an impossible decision from his past come back to haunt him and he finds himself
pursued by Rebecca, a deadly sociopathic young agent assigned to kill him.
Variety reports that the series will be going into production once all guild negotiations have
been resolved and we cannot wait to see it.
All right.
So much awesomeness.
Yeah.
So much awesomeness.
But it goes, I think,
Corey, the first thing, though, is it goes back to what we were talking about with what has made Boom so special in general.
They're streamlining it.
They know they have a plan.
They know the market.
They know how to make original content that is different from the other original content they're making.
And they're called Boom Studios for a reason.
They are literally a one-to-one path from this is the comic, this is the adaptation, this is the studio we have a relationship with.
So it doesn't have to be like, who do we get?
How do we hire?
And then you can get creatives like Mingna Win and Taylor Beck.
You attach people that are confident in the property because they've got something to read.
They've got something they want to.
Like, he's executive producing and starring it.
And that's confidence.
And I really think what Boom is doing is cutting out the middleman or middleman like generations of it.
And they're really trusting the consumer to pick what's going to go forward.
The artists and the writers in these books are incredible, but they're greenlighting these one or two in because they know what the market is.
I think it's a genius.
I love what Boom's doing.
No, I completely agree.
And I think the part that really gets me more than anything,
because I know we've been discussing this a lot with both the MCU and the DCU,
this idea of just over-announcing,
boom does a very good job of like they announce stuff when they're ready to essentially, like,
release.
And so by giving us that time and having something that they're going to give us within the next month,
you know what I mean?
Or the next couple of months where it's like,
this is this is done well they know how to announce too
I have the way that the way that even
the trades are working you know announcing
these things and getting the word out and building
excitement around it and the deals that they're already setting
up with Netflix and with Amazon
they're getting in the game
they're already in the game
and like the first comic book on hall
age means they got on an unprecedented
level of exposure on a comic book
but then we were able to announce the
anime a novelization and a movie but
they didn't go like August 12th
2020s like they went hey these
things are coming, there's a lot of variables, but we trust in our teams.
They should announce the teams, not the...
Take notes, Lucasville.
I mean, I'm just saying, it wouldn't hurt.
For real, though.
Wouldn't hurt.
For real, though, that you just, like, that's the problem.
This is happening and this is the reason why.
It's like, no, announce when you are ready.
When you're ready.
Announce when you have things in place and announce when you have it locked in.
Boom Studios has it locked in.
Daniel Day Kim, executive producing, starting in, and it will resume once things are settled.
Not it will come out, blah, blah, blah.
Right.
That's how you, you know what I mean?
Like that's the move.
Well, so like I said, this is why we're excited to be working at Boom Studios in general.
Not only do we tell you about the comics that are coming out, you're going to get more and more
stuff like this.
It's the reason why when I talked to them and I had breakfast with the guy from Boom.
And I said, okay, this makes sense for us because, and I remember from Koi working
with them at Comic Con and hearing things like, this makes sense for capes and cows.
And then every time they give us a sample of what's coming out, we're like, okay, that's
different.
That's interesting.
And then fans, you guys start watching it.
You start reading and going, oh, my God, thank you for telling us about Boom Studios.
I just sent a comment to our guy over at Boom, and I said, the fans have been really responding to this segment.
And when we don't talk about Boom, you guys are like, where is the Boom segment?
Because people are starting to get excited.
So get excited about these two segments, or these two shows, rather, because they are making moves.
And Boom is going to be around for quite a while.
People often ask how and what to do to do like this.
and the way to get ahead of these adaptations is the source material,
they're telling you what it is.
So if you want to know the ends and outs of these properties,
read them before they're made,
and these are literally out right now.
Like, that's how this works.
So I highly recommend,
especially at a place like boom where it's not,
there's no barrier of entry.
You pick up a Spider-Man comic and it says 762.
You're like, that's a lot.
Whereas, like, you get a mechadet's number one.
You read the graphic novel.
You know what it's going to be adapted.
And then when the show comes out,
not only are you personally invested,
but you get to be the one that has that conversation.
You get to, like, carry it.
It's so cool.
It's pretty cool.
So thank you guys so much.
Thank you to Boom.
Thank you to all you.
Thank you to Coy and Winston for joining us on the show today.
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You can find me on the socials at The Swaggy Blurt.
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Come check it out.
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And I'll have a lot of Spider-Verse coverage because that movie has a lot to say.
So I'll be doing that for the next month or so.
And then it's June, which is Flash season after Spider-Verse.
And then we go into Asteroid City.
This June is insane.
So strap in and we're going to have some fun times here.
I'm excited.
Yeah, we got a lot coming out on this channel for sure.
And we'll be doing it.
The theater reactions, capes and cows will have a lot to do with both the Flash and Spiderverse and much more.
And we've been doing stuff on Wednesdays and Tuesdays and everything.
So just keep being part of the channel.
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Thank you, to all the brand new people.
And thank you to the people who have just been so loyal to us since we started.
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