The Kristian Harloff Show - Will Darth Plagueis Be the Main Villain of Star Wars: The Acolyte Series? | The Sith Council

Episode Date: May 18, 2022

Star Wars Television is thriving right now. Vanity Fair did a full article on the shows and what to expect . There were tons of interviews with cast, producers and we learn more about Andor starring Diego Luna, Kenobi starring Ewan McGregor, Ahsoka starring Rosario Dawson, The Acolyte details, new series by Jon Watts. What is happening with the films? Will we see an Old Republic movie. What were Kathleen Kennedy's comments about legacy characters and what caused the uproar with Solo fans? Follow the crew on Twitter! Kristian Harloff https://bit.ly/31PePMD Steph Sabraw https://bit.ly/3m0ud0z Mike Kalinowski https://bit.ly/39wu8N5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's just me and Steph. Mike's going to try to figure out what he's going to owe me steak dinner for next week. So there is a lot to talk about. If you guys saw it, we have the full Vanity Fair article that came out. And, man, a lot of stuff in that article. A lot of stuff about the future television. I have to be honest, a lot of stuff that we talk about on this show every week about having a plan and putting it together and how Star Wars, the TV,

seems to be more of the shared universe that they're really going for and paying attention to the mistakes of the past and doing that. Although even though there's a lot of great stuff said in the article, there's also a lot of things that fans took issue with, things that Kathleen Kennedy said about solo and legacy characters and things of that nature. We'll get into all of it. It's a lot.

And then we'll talk a little bit about Star Wars Celebration, which is next week, which is nuts. Right around the corner, we're going to be there next week, the three of us. All right, let's get into it. Sith Council. It's me and Steph. Here's the show. All right, everybody, welcome back to Sith Council.

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We decided that. But that's neither here or there. Make sure Apple Podcast, Spotify, all of it. Big thing. Cool. All right. Lots to break down, a lot to talk about.

And to do it with me here today, Steph Sobril. You know what's cool? What's cool? How many Sith Council fans there are now? It's growing. It's growing. Yeah, I know we're doing.

I've been looking at all the comments. I love you guys. Yeah, we've been doing, I mean, look, we started this show. The show was built. It's funny because Jedi Council, obviously, was the show. I started from far, far away.

That was the first Real Star Wars show that I think that I did. And I was on Geek Nation. and Tiffany Smith and I and then that turned into because that was primarily audio and then that turned into Jedi Council which was a lot of people

really enjoyed that show and then when I laughed I was I was going to talk I wasn't going to talk Star Wars and I was like well if I was going to do it I can just call it Sith Council and then I think that we just started doing it digitally

whatever it was Clone Wars I think or Bad Batch maybe how we started and yeah it's just it's been fun and we're going to evolve it even more so because I will talk about this more on big thing but we're going to be moving into a studio in like June.

So the look of the show will be a little different. But yeah, I'm excited for it. People are really digging it. I wish that we would have gotten our panel. We didn't. But that's okay. We'll be there on the floor and doing it. And it's your first one.

So I want to kind of have like, it'll be nice to do like some video blogs and kind of walk around and, and you're going to lose your mind. I know. I'm so excited. You're going to lose your mind. I can't wait. One of my best friends has a bachelor at party and I'm like, I'm so bummed.

I can't go. But not really. Not really. Right. I'm going to be in Star Wars land. It's, it's, come on. I'm telling you,

because I know how much, because we just talked about it before when you came in, you've, you've been to Comic Con before. Yeah. And I mentioned this all the time and I say it to Mike, because ComicCon for Mike is like the end all be all, right? Um,

I like going to Comic Con more so now because the parties and everything. And there are parts, there are sometimes walking around the floor. It's really great. But it's so massive because it literally covers everything. So if you're, if you love, It's a great place for people.

Like when you're walking around in San Diego, you're looking at those floors, you can walk the aisles and you go, oh, I really enjoy that. That's not really for me. That's not for me, but that's for me. I'm going to go find that.

In Star Wars, everything is for you if you're Star Wars. It's like everywhere you go. Like, and I said this to you. I remember one of my greatest moments, memories is just walking around in awe, looking around at things. And then like,

we had to stop because a parade of cosplayers came in with the music blasting. And then I turned around and Garrett Edwards is on the floor, Dave Filoni's walking around on the floor. Like, I doubt that he's going to be able to. Dave Filoni used to be able to walk the floor. I doubt he'll be able to do it now.

Yeah. I know. I don't, it's like only, I feel like new people in Star Wars can maybe walk the floor now, but definitely not like Favreau Philoni. No, Follone used to walk the floor. He would walk. I mean, I remember I used to see him. Yeah, it was animated stuff.

People would stop him and talk to him and stuff too, but like he wouldn't be able to go two feet without everybody talking to him now. So I don't think it's going to be the same for him. But maybe I'm wrong. Like Leland She. and Pablo Hidalgo would always be walking around there. So I'm curious. I'm curious to see how it's going to be this year.

They're supposed to have it last year for obvious reasons postponed. I think it's better for them that it was postponed with all the stuff, especially now after looking at this article. So let's tear into this thing because that's really what the whole show is going to be about and who knows where it's going to go. Do you know it was going to draw? No. I had no idea.

It makes sense, though, because Annie Leibowitz has been doing this for so long. I didn't know when. She does it before the movies, but it also shows, like it's funny. I was going back and forth with John Hoey from Star Wars Newsnet, who was one of the people who was just not happy with her comments about solo, right? Because there is that movement of the make solo to happen that there's a lot of people behind it. Yeah. We are not two of those people, but there are people who, and God bless them for, they love it, but. I like a Taco Clown. I mean, yeah, I like episode two. I like the prequels. I get it. You like what you like.

You like me. And they're making, they want that thing to happen to make soul too, but that's not his issue necessarily is them saying no you can't do it is the fact that she just will get into it it but like just kind of negated his performance and blamed it on him really the reason why it didn't work and there's so much more for why that in my opinion why that movie didn't work and i don't think it was him at all um for what he did i think that he was a he was cast he was cast poorly not not and and when i say he was he's a great actor and i thought his performance was great i just don't see that version. I don't see that as Han Solo,

but there are tons of people who disagree with me. But she said something along the lines of like how they realized that they can't recast legacy characters while they're promoting Obi-Wan, which was recast from Alex Guinness. Yeah. Tomor Morrison. Tomor Morrison was recast Jeremy Bullock. Yeah.

Donald Glover potentially is going to play Lando again in a series. It was recast. Yeah. So you can't, you got to be careful what you say. But the point that, and then the other thing was the Kevin Feigy stuff, she said, which was interesting. Oh, yeah. About his movie?

Well, she said, doesn't look like it's, she said, very curious of what he's going to come up with. But there's no plans right now. And then a week ago, there was the interview that dropped that said that he had been starting writing it. And that's the point that John Hoey had made. And I said, the one thing we have to pay attention to is we don't know when this interview, an article happened.

they could have done like the Annie Leib would shoot and all it didn't just happen yesterday and they put it out it could have happened a month ago or whatever it might been they got that quote from her and then the screenwriter goes oops and says I'm working on it and maybe they maybe they wanted to hold Feigie's thing maybe they want to help but we'll get into all of it there's so much I mean really there's a lot of information that we got yesterday or yesterday it was a big day they not only with the vanity fair thing that dropped. I did my review of Chippendale. That was massive.

And then we had the Shehulk trailer drops. So yesterday was a busy day. And I will say that I, out of, every, I mean, the Star Wars stuff is probably my most enjoyable, but I can't believe how much I love that Chippendale movie. I didn't see that. It's really good.

Oh, okay. I'm excited. It's a really good movie. The whole movie? Yeah, it's great. It's on Disney Plus. It's made for Disney Plus. Okay.

And it's like Roger Rabbit. Yeah, Trump in this weekend. It's like I thought it was going to be just a bad like Alvin and the Chipmarsh movie. It's funny. Okay. It's really funny. Annie Sandberg and John Maloney. John Malaney?

That's a great duo. It's great. Wow. Okay. They're really, really funny together. And they explain and they poke fun at Disney movies. And it's, I enjoyed what I saw. Oh, good.

All right. Let's get into the stuff. First of all, yeah, this is something I wanted to mention you guys before we get into it. Friend of the show. former Jedi Council member, Star Wars in 30 Minutes, Mark Riley. They're bringing it back. Star Wars in 30 Minutes is a legendary show that Mark Riley has been doing. And happy birthday to Mark Riley, by the way.

Happy birthday. And Mark Riley's been doing this show. I had a pleasure of seeing. I saw this show with Jeremy Johns years ago. They did it. And he's been doing it for so long. George Lucas has seen this thing. It's a legendary show.

And they haven't done it in a while. And Star Wars Celebration. want them to do it this year. And they're not only doing it at Star Wars Celebration, they're also going to be doing it at the Gary Marshall Theater in Burbank in California. So if you are at Star Wars Celebration, you'll be able to see that on May 27th. If not, and you're going to be in town, you get a chance to see it. May 25th, 27th, 28, 29th.

They are going to be at the Gary Marshall Theater on the 25th, 28th, and 29th. So you can get tickets at Star Wars30.com. That's www. Star Wars30.com. You can follow them on Twitter. It's a really funny show. It's really good. And I think stuff we're going to try to go see it.

And he's going to get us tickets at celebration. So me and I probably go check that out. So we'll probably be there also to check that out. It's really good. Okay. So that's that. This is the Vanity Fair article, man. And I'm going to read from Star Wars Newsnet,

who they did a great. there was so much material that they broke down a bunch of it. This is Tony Gorrick over at Star Wars Newsnet. This is his article. Ever since an array of Disney Plus Star Wars series was announced, there was information and details that have been somewhat scarce other than a few general notes as the shows get close to release date. Thanks to an extensive Vanity Fair article,

there are now incredible new details, sneak peek interviews, gorgeous photos, and fascinating information regarding a slew of upcoming shows like Andor Osoka, the Acolyte, and more. They have this video up there that's really good. But the first thing that they go into was, this is education for the self-starters, the go-getters, and the big dreamers. So if you're looking for a university that believes in your potential as much as you do, this is the school for you.

At Sterey University, we've been in the D.C. area for over 130 years. And we're always adapting to students' ever-changing needs in this ever-changing region so you can keep striving. Strayer University is certified to operate in Virginia by Shev. Andor. And so Star Wars Andor, there was a lot of information that popped with this Andor thing. And this is coming up like at the end of August, I think they said, something like that. So Diego Luna's interview on what makes the story of Andor unique to him.

And what he said was, well, first of all, it's a spy thriller that focused on the rebellion five years before the events of Rogue One. and Lucasfilm confirmed to Vanity Fair that the series will debut late this summer. Here, there's fascinating insight of Diego Luna inside of it, but some of the stuff that he talked about, and him and Tony Gilroy talked about inside of this article was, first he was very secretive.

He was in the Uber and the guy, and he was like holding his phone close to the guy couldn't, he didn't want to give up any information. But then Tony Gilroy, do you know the whole story with Tony Gilroy and everything that happened with the Rogue? Oh, how he came in for the rewrites, right? Yeah, which I had no, couldn't tell. Well, so they said the rewrites, but then a lot of people said that he pretty much directed it.

Okay. They, I mean, it's from, from rumors or that, that, um, Garrett there was played ball. Just kind of said, yeah, okay, you know, cool. But it was Tony Gilroy who took over, which seems to kind of pan out now, considering that they went back to get Tony Gilroy to direct and do all this stuff, or to produce this stuff. And then, you know, he knows it well. He's not in, and he doesn't even mention of Garrett Edwards,

who, Garrett Edwards is the guy who brought Rogue One to life, apparently. But yet, no mention him. They bring Tony Gilroy in. No one even mentions that. No one even talks about that. That's like weird. That's so true. No one even brought him up.

Yeah. Like, it's like, was there any meetings with Garrett Edwards? The guy who directed Rogue One? No, we went to Tony Gilroy. Why? because yeah because don't worry about it that's kind of what it is

yeah that sounds like he you're right like he might have done most of it and then didn't get the full credit and then they're like no but it's cool we have this series that we want you to do and he probably didn't care anyway he's okay fine whatever what's the gig so the gig and then him and Gilroy and and Diego Luna have been talking

so it says in the article and it's and they talk about more so Gilroy has talked about that this was an angry dude who we saw. We know that he sacrifices himself. That's what Gilroy says. You know he sacrifices himself and the question is how someone does that, like where they get to, but the question is, what's he like beforehand? And we find out inside of this, the information that his planet was blown up or whatever it might been from the empire. But I wonder, because in the book, I can't remember what book it was. It might have been the Rogue One book.

And it was the Rogue One book. They say that his fans, family was actually separatists and fought on the Count Duku's side. So I wonder if they're going to play into that or if they're going to just ignore it completely because it was in a book. I think they probably will. Play into it? Yeah. I hope so.

But I was excited that they started with this because I know you and I are both on the same side where we're excited to watch it. It's not our number one. But this did make me a little bit more excited for sure because I like the direct. like the spy thriller aspect. We've always liked that. And then I also think because we're starting, the point in time where this is starting is really cool in terms of like,

I think Clone Wars and Rebels did a really good job of showing on the ground what it's like on smaller scale for people that are living under this imprisonment of the empire, essentially during this transition. So that's what I, I'm actually really looking forward to this now. I am too. And I think the espionage side of it, And I think that it allows the opportunity to really do what you and I have been talking about that we hope is going to happen.

And that's shine just as bright of a light on the empire because the empire is in full power at this point. They say as much in the article. So if you're getting a series that, because I don't want to just see spy missions the whole time. I mean, it should be the focus of the show, obviously. That's what they say it's going to be. But I don't want to just every week's a new spy mission. And every week they're just kind of pulling a prank on the empire. and the empire always lose,

you got to show me how powerful the empire is and show me who are the big threats. And it would seem, there would be no indication that they wouldn't do that. And, I mean, even in Obi-Wan, they've got some, they have imperials and stuff that are in it,

but in Andor, you would feel they'd be front and center. Yeah. Yeah, I think my, I wonder what your overall, like, position is. I thought that after I read this entire article, that they're moving way more towards serialized,

television as opposed to episodic with the exception of Mandalorian season one I think was more episodic and then we started to see more serialized storytelling and that's what we got in Boba I think as well yeah I think so I mean it's it um I don't know I think it just depends on the story yeah it depends on the story like with I mean Obi-1 feels like a full-on it just yeah yeah and it's just like a full-on movie and I think that it's just even when they talk about Obi-One inside of this article, it's all of the stuff that they mentioned with how it was a movie and how they had the director from Billy Elliott at one point.

He walked away when they went to the series. But to go back to what you're talking about inside of that series, the narrative of the series, and this is what Kathleen Kennedy ultimately said, right, with the plan. And that's there was no plan for, for most. movies, more or less as to what I read. You know, she said her quote was how now they don't want somebody to stick around for like a year.

They want people to be around for like five years, six years. They have to realize that. What I read from that is, well, what we did before is we found the hot director that was working and we said, okay, come on and you do this movie and we'll find someone else to continue. We'll figure out what it was. That's what George did back in the day. But the problem is it's not 1982 anymore.

And you can't do that. And the stuff that mixes together, whether it's Marvel or DC or whatever, the, There's a people want to continue to be locked in the entire time. And they realized that with the TV shows, which is something I'm, it's just baffling that they didn't have a full on treatment for the new trilogy when it came out. Yeah, like they really signed on directors for a year.

Yeah. For like one of the biggest movies ever. Yeah, well, I mean, she says a year, but I mean, ultimately you're still locked into, like two years. Yeah, about two or three years when it comes to the pre-prud, all that stuff and the rush that they go in. But it was, I think what she ultimately meant was you've got to be locked in and play.

But play and be part of being in the sandbox, being in the Star Wars family. Look at Bryce Dallas Howard. Look at John Favro. Look at Tyca, right? Look at Deborah Chow. Like, these are people that are playing in the sandbox now and they're continuing to move on and do more stuff inside of it. And I mean, even someone like when you look in Marvel, look at John Watts, who's now moving and Tristan, who we'll talk about in the second two transitioning into Star Wars.

But like all of that, it's like when you're connected inside of it, It just, it means more to you and it can, and that transfers over and it means more to the fans. You can tell when someone comes in just as like, even Tony Gilroy, who just what came in as a higher gun for Rogue One, but is now invested enough to he's doing a series. Like that's, that's ultimately what they're doing right. And I think that this is, this is a good way to get the kind of goodwill back because it shows, like, you can tell in the TV shows, I don't care what you say about Bober or not. There's still an ultimate plan, whether. whether you liked how it came out or not, to transition Osoka inside of that series,

to put the Mandalorian inside of it, to put Boba inside Mandalorian, it all ties into this more of an emotional attachment when you watch it. Yeah, I was thinking about, because I watched the gallery collection finally of Boba. And it was funny because when we were watching it, I know that there was a lot of episodes I really liked and a lot of moments that I loved.

And then like a month after, I started thinking that I didn't like it that much. You know when time does that. And then I rewatch the gallery. I'm like, oh, yeah. There was some fun moments. Yeah. There was some fun moments.

Yeah. I actually really liked that gallery too. I liked it too. I did think that like I appreciated a lot of the stuff of where they were coming from, but I didn't agree with a lot of the stuff. In terms of the characterization of Boba. There's certain things that they said about things. Yeah, characterization about Boba, how they had to change them up because they already did

this with Mandalay. And, but I'm like, yeah, but that's who Boba was. And the thing with what they didn't address was where he said, well, yeah, he'd be different from, from after you get, it changes you in a Starlight Pat and you'd be different. Yeah, but we saw him in Mandalorian. He's completely different in Mandalorian. Yeah. Then he, like in Mandalorian, he's still got that hard edge. He's still putting deals together. And he, and he, and he has that great moment in Mandalorian when he says to Boba, he said, or when when Boba says to Mandalorian, no, I gave you my word that I'm going to find this kid with you. And when that happens, then I'll take off. That's great. And that's still,

that adds to what they're talking about, like this new kind of code. But he's still, he's getting into arguments with, that Boba Fett is getting into arguments with Boca Tan and fighting in the middle of a thing and getting, like, upset.

And even when he's, like, he's more hard edge. You watch Medallorian. He is significantly different than what he is about. And it's the same time period. Like around the same time, he's not going to change that much.

I understand the argument of, well, he was with the San, with the Tuskins, and then his mentality change is what they're saying. Yeah, from solo. Yeah, but it just doesn't compute with what we saw in Mandalorian. Yeah, even in the article,

you felt that kind of fear that they've felt about having two similar of characters, but all the fans, I think, are like, these are totally different characters, even if there's similarities, because I feel like Mando Dengarian has never been, like, ruthless. He just gets a job, I don't know. I don't know. He can be pretty ruthless.

Did you see? He's in the meat factory? Yeah, yeah. No, I know what he, but I feel like, I don't know. It's more like his job. Yeah, yeah. But he, I think that that was, which understandably, their big concern was that everything that we thought Boba Fett was with our imaginations is what Dinn became.

Yeah. Like that's everything that we always thought that Boba Fett was going to do. And you're like, well, we can't do that again, can we? And it's like, it's one of my fears about every show they do. do, whether it's Obi-Wan with Reva, whether it's, you know, they did it. They've done it so many times. Like, we've got to make this person like, good. And it's like, you don't.

You don't. Like, Boba-Fet didn't have to be super good. He was a gangster. Yeah. And then, because Favre was talking about how he did the, there's like a godfather inspiration behind it. And you saw that, but it didn't transpire. And it didn't keep that way.

Because Michael Corleone, he, he's not, oh, yeah, yeah, let him live. That's cool. Yeah, he can, you, he slapped me in the face. Yeah, let him live. Yeah. That's cool. No. No.

No. Yeah. And that was the stuff that they just tried too much to make him too much of a good guy. But they didn't mention Boba Fett much in that Vanity Fair article. No, not at all. Like at all. Like they just mentioned that it happened. Does that mean no season two?

I don't think so. I think they're trying now more and more. They left it kind of open-ended. My interpretation is that they wanted to see how it landed. Right. And to me, it was. 2.5 of the Mandalorian. Yeah, I mean, for sure.

I think that a lot of, I mean, especially the last, there were like four episodes of Boba Fett and two of the Mandalorian. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that if it had been amazingly well received, we would have gotten a season two and they would have called, and then we would have designated it as its own thing. But now I think how it landed and what it did, it's 2.5.

Push away from it. You don't need to at this point. Why even bother? If you have, if you have all of these other shows that people are excited about and potentially so much other stuff. And I think that that's where we can, before, because I was going to, I want to talk about the acolyte,

but before we even do that, what there was two big drops in the article. One was that it was confirmed by Euma Greger, who I didn't know was dating. Neither did I. Mary, what's her? Partner. Yeah.

Mary Elizabeth Winstead. Winstead, yeah. So who I like, Scott Pilgrim and a bunch of other stuff. But she, so she's confirmed. She's in Asoka, which is great.

She elevates every project she's in. I really like her a lot. So that was confirmed, and I think that he confirmed that inside of the article. And then the other thing was this John Watts series, which is funny, we've been talking about this Stranger Things show for a while. So the Stranger Things show was rumored to come out and it was supposed to be a high republic show. And this was both confirmed and debunked in the same article. And it was confirmed that this is pretty much what the show is going to be, this younger thing that John Watts has proven he's pretty good at. when you look at Spider-Man.

Yeah, that's really true. But it takes place after Jedi. And it takes place in the same time period, like around the same area within, within a couple years anyway, when Mando does. Yes. That's what I didn't like. Yeah. I thought we were going to start finally exploring a different, why are we going back to that area again? But then there was a confirmation of the show that's 200 years before.

That's act like. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 100 years. Yeah, yeah. 100 years. We knew that show was coming. Yeah. No, I know. It seems like I was a little disappointed in that that we're staying in that realm.

But I think maybe their thought is that because it's like a kids perspective, a younger perspective of it, that it might be completely different. I like the idea that we're getting the younger kids' stranger things like Jedi. What it will mean, though, is it's probably going to take place after some of the Mandalorian stuff because Luke is out there training people. So you would assume that he's training these kids. Yeah, that's what I was reading some people being like, could we see a young Ben Solo in here? Maybe, which could be interesting. And maybe that's what they're going to start to do. I don't know.

Maybe Grogu shows up too. And maybe that's why they want to do it so they can continue to tie in as we were just talking about it. Like these things that they're setting up and be able to use these characters that we're getting used to to continue and share a universe. And I understand that approach. I think that makes sense if you want to continue to connect people that's like, hey, you like that character from this show. Well, they're going to be in this new show. So I get that. I just also think that you possibly could have done that inside of like a high republic era.

But it's not to say, I think they're taking a risk. They think they're taking a massive risk by doing this acolyte show. Yeah. It's the only show that's not connected to the original trilogy or the prequels or the neutral at all. And it's what all the fans are I feel like so excited to see. The hardcore fans, yeah, they want to see a different era. And so let's let's get into that one. because we'll talk because there's so much question so many questions i have about that in general so

and or by the way as we said we're excited about and or now that comes out in some sometime sometime in august um palpatine tarkin you know uh krenic all possible so we'll we'll see all right and then the next one was and it was the acolyte so it wasn't much information but there was some there was some information out the acolyte so here's here's some of the details that we got Lucasfilm has lifted the lid on the Ackleit series headed to Disney Plus, providing a slew of new information on what the show will look like from time period to the field of show, and here's the overall details on the show itself. Lucasfilm has lifted as part of a massive interview with Vanity Fair showrunner, Leslie Headlin,

reveals a few details about the project stemming from the time period at Seton. Vanity Fair acknowledges previous reports that Amanda La Stenberg is rumored to be playing a lead role in the show and mentions that Headlin had been. working on it the last two years from her home. The writing stage is complete and now casting is underway. We knew the accolite takes place at the end of the High Republic era, but Vanity Fair now confirms that the show will be set roughly 100 years before the events of the Skywalker saga.

Headland was particularly interested in charting the rise of the Sith in the shadows, how they could hide and play in sight without attracting the Jedi intention. Quote, a lot of these characters haven't been born yet. We're taking a look at the political and personal and spiritual things that came up in a time period that we don't know much about. My question, when watching the Phantom Menace, was always like, well, how did things get to this point? How do we get to a point where a Sith Lord can infiltrate the Senate

and none of the Jedi pick up on it? Like, what went wrong? What are the scenarios that led us to this moment? Headland reiterated the initial premise that the Acolyte will be a mystery thriller. Love that. And states the show is set in a period with a new name different to those,

excuse me, a new name different to that used to describe the High Republic. The Age of Enlightenment, a time of peace and prosperity when the Jedi order became withdrawn from the public guy, rarely getting into physical confrontations. We actually use the term the Renaissance or the Age of Enlightenment. The Jedi uniforms are gold and white, and it's almost like they would never get dirty. That would be out and about.

They would never be out and about. The idea is that they could have these types of uniforms because that's how little they're getting into skirmishes. That is already a departure from the Jedi we know in the High Republic. While that era promised and delivered Jedi Knights to have more personality and live a little bit more freely than the Jedi we saw in the prequels, it sounds like the Ackleite will show us that Jedi's transition into the order we recognize from the movies.

The Acolyte will arrive in 2023, but we have no information more than that when it comes to release. Okay, so a lot of tidbits here. Yep. A lot of tidbits for sure. So the first being, this show is something that's very exciting for me because it looks like, and you too, because there's the Sith Council, the Sith, the Sith rule of two was started by Darth Bain.

It was done because the Sith couldn't control themselves and kept wanting power and they could never hold up with a Jedi in a large army. So they were destroyed pretty much. It looked like they were destroyed, but they were running in the shadows, the rule of two, until the time was to strike. Eventually that time did come to strike when it was the prequel era

and Palpatine finally did it and took over and even Darth Malcestino, last week and reveal ourselves. And it's a plan that's been, in the work for a very long time. So I love the idea that that's what we're exploring. I have so many questions that I'm skeptical about because even some of the stuff said here. This is the stuff Lucasfilm does all the time.

They set up this whole stuff with High Republic, right? And they talk about, and they get the fans all excited about the High Republic. And they talk about the video games with the High Republic and this and the High Republic and the High Republic. And yet, she's like, we're not calling it that. We're calling it the Age of Enlighten. Why? why don't you call it the High Republic

if you're trying to promote this era in Star Wars? And now it's just like, well, that's just, that this is my, I feel like the video game players and the, and the comic book readers and novel readers are just kind of like disregarded a lot of the times. And it's just like, yeah, you guys have that. It's not, we're not doing that for us. We're not going to do that.

And it's like, you know, the article says that that's, it's the transition period from when the High Republic turns into this era. But it's like, why? Why don't you explore it? Just call it that. Just call it the High Republic. That way you start to promote this new era that you've been promoting. You want everybody to spend their money on the books and the novels and the comics,

but then it's like, but we're not going to call it that for the TV show. Why? Because that's the real, the TV and films like where it really happens. And like it's- High Republic sounds better than age of enlightenment. I think so too.

And it's like, I think that they're trying, unless they, look, if they start the show off and they say along the lines that it is the era of the High Republic and it is beginning the age of enlightenment, okay. I still don't think that the High Republic has earned it enough inside of live action yet.

Yeah. That it hasn't, I don't know. It's just they're building out this High Republic stuff so much. And they're building out this high republic stuff so much. Yeah, we don't call it that. Oh, okay. Why? But the stuff that I do like is the idea that this is going to be a show about the Sith, it seems like.

Yes. And the thing I really liked is the main question she posed. how did the Sith do that? Right. Because when you're watching the movies, you're like, counsel, are you guys okay? Like, how did you, how did this happen? Yeah, and I saw somebody pose a question.

Like, well, we find that on the prequels. How it happened is palpising. Yeah, but there's, not really. Like, not really. When you look at that, you read that Darth Plagas novel, like that dude is like infiltrating, like really infiltrating. And that's my next question is we've been calling for Plague's for a long time. Yeah.

So the question then, if we're going 100 years before episode one, you're going to guess that Palpatine is in his mid-40s, let's say 50, but I say mid-40s. Even if we say he's 50 years old, still, he ain't born. Palpatine's not around yet. Now, Plagueis at that point, could be younger, could be, depending. If they make Plagueis a human, then he could be younger. He'd be really young. If they make him the species that George Lucas always wanted him to be,

and James Lucino wrote him, he's the banking claim, the Mune, and he's an alien that could probably live while. So if you had him and then the Mandela, they're playing a totally, like the apprentice, the first apprentice of Pagas, and the Pagas maybe wipes them out. I don't know. Yeah, that could be sick. I wonder, because how old is Palpatine supposed to be in the prequel?

I think he's like 45 or 50 in that first life. Yeah, I think you're right. I don't think he would have been in it. And I don't think we need him in that either. I would way rather see Plagueis and see the beginning of working with life and death like that. Right. And how he even figured that out. Yeah.

And is it confirmed that Amandaa is playing a Sith or could they be a Jedi? I haven't read that yet. they could be a Jedi. That would be interesting too because then maybe they discover Plagueis. Because him working in the shadows with another apprentice or I don't know. If you, because Plagas could have been, I mean, the fact maybe they're saving Plagas for this. And that would be. As opposed to the sequel.

Anything. I mean, they just, I just, they'd set him up in episode three and just never did anything with him. I know. I'm telling you that novel. It's like the best part of episode. So three is that conversation too. Yeah. It's one of my favorite parts of Star Wars is that conversation.

It's great. And 100% they could have done a little bit more with it. But I'm excited for that one now. Me too. As far as celebration goes, and we're probably going to have done that with Andor too. Maybe we'll jump back to Indoor after we're, after we're done with this.

But Star Wars Celebration, what we think we're going to get. I think for Star Wars celebration for this show, I think we're getting more cast. Yeah. A little bit more plot. Imagine the audience. losing their mind if they find out about Plague is at at celebration. I don't think it will happen, but if they do, I think we'll get more cast.

It doesn't come out. They said 2023, right? I think so, 2020, but when that's so if 2020. That's Asoka and Ackley are 2023. Yeah, and and and and Mandalorian will probably transit. It'll either start or it'll least end. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're going to get three series for sure.

you're getting three this year, three or four, depending on Bad Batch, and a new animated series probably announced that John Wasting, whenever that hell that comes out. So lots of stuff that we're going to see. But Ackleid, I think we get, I don't think we get anything behind the scenes, but I think that maybe some concept art, maybe some, a little bit more detail, a little more casting stuff. I think that that's going to be, that'll be big.

They already know, yeah. What Hadlin was saying, it seems like they have a pretty clear vision at least. so. And I like everything she's saying. I do too. Minus the High Republic. Yeah. Yeah, that. But I do feel like she's taking like a lot of time to explore. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. I mean, that's like that, as you said, that question is the question to ask. Like that's a fascinating thing to me. And even though we're talking about we're not going to see a lot of characters, we'll see Yoda. We have to see Yoda. Yeah. Yeah. We'd have to see Yoda. have to. He's only, I mean, at that point, he's only like late 600s or whatever, 700, wherever he is. Or no, wait.

No, he was 900 when he died. Well, no, he was 900 when he died. So, you know, when 900 years old, you'll be. Oh, yeah, yeah. So he'd be, he'd probably be in, yeah, at least 700s. Yeah. So, yeah, he's, he's definitely no spring chicken, but he's still, but he'll be around. Yeah. Maybe Seattle appearance. Maybe, but I would love to say, I mean, that's what I want to see Yoda. I don't want to see him in his own show, but he's, like, that. That's the stuff we talk about every week on this show. Like, that's not fan service to put him in. No.

Because he would be there. Yes. Like when there are characters that would be there, it's like, because if he's not there, you'd be like, where the hell's Yoda? Yeah. Yeah, that wouldn't make any sense. It wouldn't make any sense. No.

Especially when you're forming the council. Yeah. Yeah. At that point in time. So, and then what it also allows you to do is that if they set up the lure and that, and the height of the Jedi at that point, which is also very exciting that we don't really see a lot of, you know, we've only seen in prequels kind of age. Yeah, this is their most

powerful moment where they don't have to do things really. And it's that question that she brings up of like how did it happen? Because maybe they were getting a little arrogant at that point to say that. Nobody's going to infiltrate us anymore. Our big threats are gone where we've got control of it. And here's, and the conspiracy has been happening

for a while. And I am very curious and concerned, but wondering, because they always in TV shows like this, they do have the opportunity to negate things that had been set up in the past, whether it's in novels or other stuff or even novels that are legends, but like the Bain stuff.

Bain was set up in Clone Wars that he did set up Rule of 2. Are they going to mention that? Are they going to mention Revin? Are they going to mention any of these things that, like the history of the Sith, are they going to get it? Like, Sith War is stuff that,

it's, to me, stuff that has not been explored even remotely. Like, the best they've ever done it was in Knights of, Republic and that's not canon. Yeah. Which, yeah, and it's such a loss of opportunity because Sith lore is, there's depth to it. Yeah. There's, and there's a reason why there's pull to it with people like Anakin. We have the Jedi Lord. Let's go more into Sidla. And I should say the Darth Bain novels also really dive into it. So I am curious and hopeful that the acolyte does so well

inside of this that they expand off of it and then they start to spin off because if they spin off the they are in the Mandalorian way and the Soca and all this stuff, maybe the Acklite will start the spin from that time period and get us more excited about, you know, other characters within. Yeah, I think starting 100 years before is good because they could do five years. They could do 20 years and there'd still be a lot of years to explore. Yeah. Okay, before we move on, I also want to tell you guys, I've been talking about it for a while, athletic greens.

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I shake it up. Yep, that's it. You'll be surprised how good it tastes. Okay, I'm excited. All right. So that was. So that was. was, uh, those are those two things. And I think we can, we, we, we'll jump back in and or in a second, but let's, you want to talk about Asoka. I know you do. I know you want to talk about Asoka. Let's go, let's talk, let's talk about Asoka. Because there's, there's, there's, there's, Tano is finally getting our own show. And Dave Faloni's doing it. You knew he's going to do it. The, the addition of the character. So this is, Rosario Dawson talking about the difficulties of keeping Asoka secrets. It seems where there was Zerio Dawson is not quite a

secretive about Star Wars spoilers as Lucas film would like. In an interview with Vanity Fair, she reveals how she tried to call her friend Sun while wearing her Asoka makeup. I called my friend Paulina because her son, Cosmo was a huge fan of Star Wars. He knows every ship, every robot. He sees me and he throws the phone across the room. He just freaked out. I've got an ice cream with this kid. We've hung out, but it was too much that this character he loves was starting talking to him and he said his name. She calls me back the next day and goes, Cosmo just walked into the room and said he's ready. I said, that's sweet, but I'm no longer in costume. His moment is missed. Cold-blooded. The report also references the time when

Dawson shared a rumor on social media that Hayden Christensen would be joining the cast of Asoka, a post that many fans took as confirmation that we'd be getting Anakin Skywalker and flashbacks or his forced ghosts. Unfortunately, it seems like she was just as in the dark as the rest of us. It seems Dawson just read a trade report and got excited. Bull BS. I just posted Sky Guy. They know. See you soon, Snips. I looked at my email and Star Wars was like, you might want to take that down. I'm like, man, I can't be trusted. Vanity Fair points out Lucasfilm never actually confirmed whether or not Hayden Christensen will be appearing in Asoka or not, though they do offer some insight from Dave Flonie on what the, what shape the series will take.

Asoka is a continuous story. It's definitely driving toward a goal in my mind as opposed to being a little singular adventures. That's what I want the character to be doing, and that's what fans want now. They have such a relationship with her. I've only recently started to understand that all those kids that watch Clone Wars are now a lot older. They're very excited about all the things they grew up with as they should be. It seems unlikely that anyone was expecting Assook to be a procedural series with a new adventure starting every week, but it's nice to get confirmation that it is a serial story all the time.

It's what stuff was saying before. The series is still slated to debut sometime in 2023 along with the Acculite. All right. So let's start first of all with the spoiler part of it, because this is important. she was given a way to give that answer for sure. She was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I read off some trade. Come on, you were filming with him probably last week. So, okay, we know Hayden Christensen.

That's not the big reveal. Yeah. The big reveal is what she also did was she also tweeted out about how excited she was that Mina Musad and, what's his face? Lars Mikkelson were also cast. Oh, yeah. That's the one I think that was Lucas film was like, No, no, no, no.

Yeah, not the Sky Guy. No, not as much because, I mean, sure, that's a reveal and people kind of did some reporting on it, but it was the, when she confirmed that, I think that that's, that also ties into Flonnie's comment that this is a continuous story. This is the end of rebels. This is, this is after we found what happened with the end of, Flonin gets to continue rebels in live action. That's what it seems like. Yeah, I'm, I just finished rewatching Clone Wars. Clone Wars or Rebels?

And now I'm still watching Rebels. Oh, okay. Now I rewatching Rebels. Yeah. Now I'm rewatching Rebels. And I just, I love those shows so much. But Asoka really is one of the sickest characters ever. I think that they're handling this with care and it makes sense.

Like, it's one of those things that I don't know if they had initial plans to ever make a live action Asoka. Right. But it fits perfectly. Like, that is a part of the story that can be explored in live action in such a good way. Well, he's wanted to do, Flonie, has wanted to do live action. I remember when we ran into him. We talked to him.

We were like, when are they going to give you a movie? When they gave a movie? This is before series. And he's like, and this is the best of all the worlds here because I always wanted to get a movie. I was like, always saying, Philoni should get a movie, a movie, movie. And now he's done television successful twice. Yeah. With Clone War.

I mean, those two big ones, and people you can say whatever, you want about resistance or whatever, too. But he was producer on that. But Rebels and Clone Wars are the two that really. hit with Star Wars fans. Yeah, great. And he created it and he had this character of Asoka and now to carry it over and now to do live action. And I don't know, man, because I liked

most of his, there's only one of his episodes of Mandelaunerian I thought was okay, but the rest of his stuff I thought it's been great. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's interesting in this article that we got a lot, at least I felt like I got more perspective of him and Fabro's relationship.

Yeah. Yeah. And how lucky it is that they be, like, so well together. It's two like alphas in this like creation world. Well, they said it. But I imagine though, especially in those beginning,

like there's some episodes that might not be great because you have two visionaries working on one project. Yeah. I buy that they're close. That's not what the face was from what the way that they portrayed that was like, oh yeah. You know, they kind of,

they were on these opposite sides and I got them together and and, oh, from the quote. Well, I put them together and it and, And Vanity Fair was like, well, you know, they kind of knew each other and they kind of got along. They worked on Clone Wars and Rebels together a bunch. Yeah.

Because he was Vistla in that. Like, they knew each other beforehand. They knew each other, yeah. I'm not saying, I'm not disregarding the fact that Kathleen Kennedy probably definitely put together that phone call and said, you guys need to figure this out because I want, this is the stuff that I think that she doesn't get credit for, where it's like, you got to put those conversations together. But I didn't like that it was posed, like they just kind of knew each other. They worked together before.

They knew each other well enough and they knew each other at the Lord. But I love the story of it of how it came to be. Because that was the story I always knew that he wanted to do Boba Fet. And then Favreau wanted, Favre wanted to do Boba Fett. Flanley said, well, we can't because we don't have any Mandalorians. Here are the kind of Mandalorians that we do have and where they are at this moment. And then throwing back to that George Lucas moment of saying, well, yeah, they're in a peace. They're in a peaceful time.

Oh, they're pacifist. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, well, really, that's not the kind of Mandalorians that we always knew. He's like, yeah, but people change. cultures change.

And like all of that was great. And then the idea that... It was one of the best parts about the season, too. It was. And Grogu, that I thought was pretty revealing and showing how they can get on the same page because Flonie's also been known to be. Like, as you said, like, well, then now this is the way it needs to be. And Favre was like, yeah, but this could work with Grogu because they were worried about

he wanted to protect. George's vision of not letting the species be known and all that. And the fact that they came together to finally figure it out, it does show that there's a partnership there. So I agree with you. I was so, I was like, Favro, what a guy. You brought my Grogu to life.

Like that is such, I can imagine them being like, what? You want this child? A baby, a species. Right. Right.

And that was one of my favorite parts. Just thinking about how many art concepts they have to come up to. And it honestly is perfect. And Flonnie, the fact that Flonnie drew it and sketched it out. Yeah, like they really are working together very well. But that's why kind of transitioning once again to like Asoka, the idea that he gets to continue on rebels and continue that angle because from what he,

I don't know, I don't understand why, maybe he just want to give too much information on anything with Asoka, but when he was asked about the timeline, when you go to that episode, I think people will rewatch the episode where Asoka debuts in Mandalorian, that apparently is like right before the ending of rebels. So that happens first. She gets the information. Remember, at the end of that episode, she asks the, she says, where is thrown? Yeah.

And so. Yeah. That's where she gets the information. Then she goes and finds Sabine. And then Sabine and her go to look for, go to look for Azure. So that's what I assume is going to happen. The stuff that I'm very curious about, if they tied that in to Mandalorian,

then I'm hoping that the scene in Boba Fett when Luke says, am I going to see you again? And she says, perhaps, whatever she says, that's got to be a setup to something. It has to be.

Yeah. Because why would they choose that? Every line matters, especially when you're only getting a character for one, two scenes in an episode. It's a setup. And now he looks great to me.

And he's going to probably look better in the next iteration. we see. You would hope so, but it does tie into, I think one of the next things that we'll talk about. That's the Kathleen Kennedy talks about the legacy characters, you know. All right.

So let's move on because Asoka does come out next year. Oh, yeah. Actually, before we move on, celebration. Yeah. I believe that we'll get a confirmation of Mina Musad and Lars Mikkelson. Finally. And Hayden Christensen. We'll get a return.

And some new cast members, obviously. And I guess you and's lady. Oh, yeah. We'll get a confirmation with her. So we're going to confirmation to the cast. Now they have been shooting. They just started shooting recently. So I don't think we're going to get a trailer.

But I do think we'll get a behind the scenes kind of featureette and some cool images of things. And I think we'll get our first look at Thron. That would be sick. I think we can get our first look at Thron. And I think people, that's what everybody's going to be talking about. They're going to be talking about Thron. Yeah, that would be crazy. They'll announce.

Now, they'll either do one of these things that they announce Lars first, or they show the footage first, show Thrawn, and then bring him out. Walk him out, yeah. Which would be a- People would go nuts. They'll lose her mind. It'd be a great way to do it. And then show a little bit of Azra footage, show a little bit of Satine, or Sabine, excuse me.

Show a little of that footage. And I think, yeah, I think that that's where you're going to get a lot of information about what the story is, and that's going to be a massive, massive panel and a big news getter for sure. Yes. Yeah. I think so.

Yeah. I think it's like the perfect play Star Wars celebration because you're really with the fans who've watched everything. I agree. Okay. So that's that. And now moving on to the, yeah, here's this going on to the actual news itself with the,

with film. And this is where, I swear I don't realize I think that Mike really pays attention what's going on because he's like, oh, it looks like I want to win my bet. Well, first of all,

the bet was that a Jedi was going to be hung in the square. It wasn't about the movies. Oh, yeah. When I looked, but I told him, I still will guarantee they're going to announce one movie. They are.

After reading this article, I think you're totally right. And he says no. He says no still. So I want to make sure that we'd lock that down because I'm going to two steak dinners out of this thing.

And I'll put you in on this day. I'm going to make sure that if they don't on that day, that all three of us will go out to steak dinner, and he's going to pay for it. Because this is, all right, here's the article. It's part of Vanity Fair's big Star Wars piece

about the franchise future on television. Lucasfilm president, Kathleen Kenney, has offered a few updates on the status of Star Wars on the big screen. The biggest news is that Rogue Squadron has been pushed back in favor of bringing the unknown Star Wars project directed

and co-written by Tycoa Wati forward, although no official dates have been set. that's where I think we're getting the information. That's why I'm telling you that Tycho Watiti's coming out on stage at Star Wars Celebration. I'm going to hold back on the Kevin Feigy stuff for now, but we'll talk about that in a second. It's been known for a while that Patty Jenkins was committed to Rogue Squadron, but the project has been in a bind. Originally, the plan was from Matthew Robinson to get a script together in order to have a film ready by December 20203.

But Lucasfilm instead opted to postpone the start of filming indefinitely due to development issues. And although Disney recently listed the movie as being planned to make the 2023 release date, the article now stated that it will be arriving later than originally planned with no release date given as yet. Ultimately, the project is not canceled and as of this time, Jenkins and Robinson remain on the project. Jenkins has also opted to step down from directing a Cleopatra biopic in favor of producing it, with word that she'll be now focusing on Rogue Squadron and Wonder Woman 3. With DC films adjusting the slate of films, Jenkins may still have time to get Rogue Squadron done before she finishes her trilogy of Wonder Woman. Meanwhile, Taika Watiti is now set to have his Star Wars movie come out before hers.

Kathleen Kennedy expects that that project will take Squajun's place in terms of release order in an untitled Star Wars project from writer-director, Tika Watiti, who is penning the script to the movie alongside Christy Wilson and Carnes 1917, last night in Soho. Watiti has dipped his toes in the realm of Star Wars before the first season of the Mandalorian. Very little is known about the project, but fans have presumed that it may cover the very distant pass of the Star Wars galaxy. interesting, due to the presentation announcing the project featuring a mysterious object that resembles a throw-your-ship,

something presumably featured in the Dawn of the Jedi book series. No release date has been given, but it can presume that Lucasfilm are hoping to get the film to take the December 2023 release date if they can make it work. I mean, that's like two years from now. So, or two years, that's a year from now. No chance.

No. For fans hoping for a future on the solo big screen to say Kennedy is, dash these hopes with regard to trying to recreate iconic Star Wars characters. Here we go. From Star Wars movies past using digital magic, she had this to say. There should be moments along the way when you learn things. Now it does seem so abundantly clear that we can't do that.

However, it isn't lost for solo enjoyers. The Lando spinoff starring Donald Glover remains in development for Disney Plus. There weren't any updates in the expose on the television side of the equation. And rumors of some kind project focus on Crimson Dawn have popped up as well. whether or not Alden Allen Rake ever gets a shot to play the character again remains to be seen. A bizarre note is that Kennedy seemed to act as though the standalone Star Wars project that Marvel producer Kevin Feige is not officially on the cards, despite years of reports on the contrary and confirmation from multiple parties

that it's in the pipeline at some point. I would love to see what he might come up with, but right now there isn't anything specifically. The likely explanation is that Feige hasn't pitched his movie full of yet, although it is very likely that it will get made due to his official. efficiency as a producer and great reputation. Michael Waldron is writing the project with Loki screenwriter recently noting that it's one of his big focuses after Dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness.

Lastly, Ryan Johnson, planned potential trilogy, announced on a soft sunny day back in 2017, has remained the subject of a lot of conversation due to the lack of status updates despite years of development. Vanity Fair describes the project as being on the back burner with Kennedy saying that Johnson's existing commitments keep him from doing it. Ryan has been unbelievably busy with knives out and the deal he made in Netflix for multiple movies. Kennedy noted that Lucas film has a sense of direction as to where they're headed and that fans should think of Star Wars stories in terms of conventional storytelling going forward,

which may or may not apply to Johnson's planned films. They're going to dial it back and do a one movie at a time approach. Good idea. We have a roadmap. I hesitate to use the word trilogy anymore because Star Wars is much more about persistent storytelling. Should have done that years ago. As it stands, various Star Wars movies are dated for 2022. As it stands, various Star Wars movies are dated for December 2020.

Wow. December 2025 and December 27. Okay. So tons there's, this is our last one of the day here, Steph. Yep. Tons to talk about. Yeah. Let's start with this legacy comment.

I don't understand it. It's like, as I said before, it's like, here's this conversation that you're having of solo. It's okay to say We had an idea We thought that we can make this particular thing work The script wasn't eggs It didn't turn out the way we want Fans didn't respond to it the right way we hoped that they would

We had a couple issues behind the scenes As far as how it was shot And the obvious The honesty of it would have been better She was like, look, it's very known It's very widely known That there were some issues that we had had With Lord and Miller

And it didn't work out They had a different vision that we did and we brought in Ron Howard do it. I think he did an excellent job for what he did. We had a great score. I thought Alden had a really great job. But fans didn't respond the way we wanted to. So that movie didn't ultimately work the way we had hoped.

That's it. You walk away and you go, and they go, okay, well, that was honest. He's like, we're probably not going to explore that right now. Maybe down the line, if it's possible, hey, who knows? You never know. Maybe Solo could pop up another thing. We have no plans for it right now, but you never know.

to say, well, that we have to learn from our mistakes and we can't recast legacy characters. It's like none of that makes sense. First of all, you're shitting on Alden Arroyke, who did not do, sorry, crapping on him. I'm promising this guy who listens to this thing that we're with his kids. I apologize. But, yeah, but it's, you know, it's stuff like that. It's like, what are you doing? It doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, I, it just felt like so. one necessary. You could have been like we're learning from mistakes, period. End of sentence because there obviously was mistakes. Everyone in the industry knew about the drama that was going on. But it just is weird to single out an actor like that and a performance when you start the movie in the first second is this alien with a weird. Yes. And that's before I think Solo even says it.

Nothing to do with him. Nothing to do with him. So it just felt not like a leadership statement, which usually that's not my controversy with her, my criticism. And for the first time I was like, that felt like not very, like a leader shouldn't say that. But it also doesn't make any sense considering that all you're, that's all you're doing is legacy stuff. You did, you did the legacy stuff.

And granted, you know, the deep fake stuff with Luke, but I mean, again, BobaFett was recast. And Obi-Wan was recast. you're still doing the Landau series. The actors in Star Wars forever have taken way too much crap for, like, behind the scenes. Right. We've seen it with Hayden Christensen. We've seen it with all of Ray, Finn, Po.

And it's like a lot of the problems that you have view are from directors, writers, production. Yes. It's like, so those statements were interesting. The other interesting one was the Kevin Feigy thing. And as I said before, that you got to understand. this was probably this but again it's it's still even if she answers the question i don't know how he's going to we we don't know we'll see what he comes up with but no plans right now as their article says

which is odd because they already announced that they were going to do something waldron is now saying that and and this could have happened beforehand but still he comes out and says that they are working on it but why not just say maybe it's and this could be that maybe they're planning on doing a big thing with fight get celebration and she didn't want to spoil it right yeah Maybe. But the other I... What's that? Like a juke out kind of?

I don't know. I think this interview was well before, though. I think this was at least a month ago. I think it was probably done about a month ago, but that's why she doesn't want to like... But still, like to not... If he is indeed working on stuff, well, it's not like he's working off the side with Waldron. I'm like, hey, work on that thing. And then we're just going to submit it to Lugenton.

I don't even know we're doing it. It's like they would have to know, hey, we're going to have the draft into you soon. We're going to have this. We're going to have that. So they would have these conversations. So it is bizarre. that it would say that but i do think that this what what what planet mike's on sometimes i have no idea i think this absolutely cements the fact that tycho at titi is going they're going to announce

this movie at celebration if it's coming out if it's still coming out in 20203 which i can't imagine yeah but if it is he's been working on it we know what it is we're going to find out what it is yes i think there i mean there's to me no way it comes out in 2023 perhaps they're going to revitalize the December release of like the new thing that they were doing, that would be awesome. Yeah. That would be really cool. But I don't, but I definitely think that this confirmed that they're still working on movies in a way that we thought they might be taking a break.

They haven't even closed out any of the films that I thought they kind of were hitting to. Roke Squadron, yeah. Roak Squadron, the Ryan Johnson trilogy, which I don't think, I don't think either of those are happening. It is so like the odds, if you put like, if you had $100. and you're like I can only bet on one thing. Should I bet on the fact that this movie will not come out in 2020? I would tell you to put that money down because it would mean they'd have to start shooting it like yesterday.

Yeah. Like it's like really soon and and maybe who knows maybe they have. But like they'd have to start shooting it already and then it'd have to be done. Within, yeah, within a year they'd have to wrap everything up. And that would go against her original thought that you need multiple years. Well, no, she was just, but Tyca Watiti, well, the thing was that if that's the case, it means Tyke has been working on it for a while and they've kept it that quiet. That's another trick that they would have to have done. They would have to keep it that quiet.

I do like the idea that it was, it's going to, this will be with the acolyte, something that happens years ago. Because remember Benitoff and Weiss were supposed to do their rumored thing was at the start of the Jedi and the start of the Sith. So maybe Tyca took that over. Maybe Tyca took that project over and then has been retooling it. So it was already almost ready to go, and now he's taking it over. So I think we get an info, we're definitely getting information about the movies now, especially after this article. They have a four-day celebration.

Yeah. We're getting a movie. We're getting something for sure. If not, one for sure, I still think two possibly. I'm not as sold on the Kevin Feigy thing anymore. I still think it's possible that you could announce it if it was kind of like a bait-and-switch type thing. But I don't know. I think we definitely get maybe some information on Roak Squadron, definitely Tyca for sure.

And maybe they announce whatever that mystery one is in that last date. But other than that, I think that that's the majority of stuff, right? There was, I mean, we're going to get more information. Obi-Wan's coming right down the pike. There's the gallery stuff. We still haven't really got a chance to talk about because there was just so much that dropped in this vanity fair. But what I will tell you guys next week, I think the way we're going to do. do this for next week is we're going to be putting a lot of videos up on Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

and possibly Sunday. I don't know if we're going to be able to get a full council episode up. If anything, it's just probably going to be something similar to what Mark and I did with our out of the theater reaction thing and maybe we talk about it for a while and they're just going to be kind of Sith Council videos throughout the entire week. There might be, there might be a full episode. I don't know yet, but most likely just make sure you're following on this channel, following us on Instagram and Twitter and all that stuff, Facebook. We're going to be posting a lot. And that's really it. So we'll be there for myself and Steph and Mike, join us. We'll see you at Star Wars Celebration. Please leave your comments in this. Like, subscribe, do all that. If you

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