The Kristian Harloff Show - Will Hera Syndulla replace Cara Dune in The Mandalorian Season 3?

Episode Date: February 9, 2023

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Welcome back, everybody, to It's the Big Thing. It is Sith Council, and I am excited to have you back. The council is in. It's myself, and it is Steph, and it is Mike, and we are here today to talk about all things, Star Wars, and you guys have submitted some great questions. We'll get into it, and Jedi Survivor, we'll talk about that, the gameplay that hit.

The Ackleight has the House of Dragon Rider in the room. That's pretty exciting. I want to talk about that a little bit more, but we're really going to dive deep into the questions that you guys sent along. People are asking about the Katie Sackoff interview myself and Brett. We interviewed her on it'll be the Monday Big Thing episode February 27th, full hour with Katie, as we are going to have that week of the Mandalorian season three.

We talked to Katie about the Mandalorian and other things on that episode. So make sure you're tuning in for that one. That's really it. Those are the main stories and we have a lot of great questions for you. But if you haven't already, by the way, everybody, make sure Apple Podcast and Spotify, we're on video on. Spotify. So go ahead and check that out if you can. Patreon.com slash the big thing show. Subscribe to the channel. We're almost at 70,000. We cross 65,000. And then we got Sith

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Hits the Sith Council show. I'm ready. You ready? Cool. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Sith Council. It's myself.

Steph Sabraugh. Yellow. Michael Kalanowski. Blue. Does anybody even call you Michael? They do sometimes, yeah. Yeah. It's like when you're in trouble?

Absolutely. Yeah. I don't think Shane's ever called me Michael. Let's get into it's Sith Council stuff. Let's do it. We got stuff to talk about. And the first thing I want to really get into here is this new story here about the accolent. You got something that had popped up.

You look, I've been screaming, screaming to the heavens. They need writers rooms and they need people from all over the place to really tell these stories. And there's a story here. And this is from our buddy Miguel, Fernandez over at Star Wars Newsnet. The Acolyte writer's room, it included House of the Dragon Charmaine the Great, de Grate. The upcoming live action Star Wars series The Acolyte has been shooting now for three months,

but we keep learning more about the people that worked on the series. And up until now, the only writer for the series we knew of was the showrunner and executive producer Leslie Headland. We did know, however, that Headland had assembled a writer's room back in 2021 to conceptualize and create the scripts for the series. and we've just learned about one of the people in that room, hidden in a different story in The Hollywood Reporter, which focused on Colin Travaro's next directorial feature.

It's been revealed that House of the Dragon Writer and co-executive producer Charmaine de Grate also worked as a writer and a co-executive producer on the Ackleight. In an interview with Black Girl nerds back in the fall, DeGrate confirmed she was working on a new Star Wars live action series but couldn't provide any other details, including the name of the show, which she referred to as untitled. However, her name has been tight-lipped on Lucasfilm's end,

even after revealing part of the producing team on the series right after the camera started rolling back in November, the announcement which confirmed the main cast and featured the first official set photo from the series included the list of producers and executive producers as well as confirmation that Headland would be directing the first episode, no details on the writers or co-executive producers were added. DeGrarte wrote the fifth episode of the first season of Game of Thrones spin-off,

which premiered last year to critical audience acclaim and was also part of the series' writers' room. She was also part of the CW's The 100. Her television work has made her a rising talent in Hollywood, and in addition to penning the script for Colin Gibraro's upcoming Atlantis. She worked in Prime Video's upcoming series, Daisy Jones, and the 6. Okay, so this is, I mean, look, when you can add somebody from a house of the dragon and not necessarily, I mean, I guess you're not leading with it as it's just kind of fallen from an article.

But that's got to be encouraging, right? Because, I mean, as you and I have talked about, not debated, but have different opinions on the fact. Andor was your favorite last year. Yeah. And then House of the Dragon, right? Yeah. Or the top three. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

So me, House of the Dragon was my favorite with Andor as a close second. So I love this news and I love the idea because not only does it just take, you know, for the particular writing skills because that show was brilliantly written. But it also shows that working on a show like that when you're a writer, you pick up things on the set and on a big successful show like House of the Dragon. You also, if you're an executive producer on the show as well, you lend your expertise. to it. So I really like the team. I keep getting these silly comments of people going, oh, you better lower your expectations for the accolade. That show, it seems to be, it's going to be politically driven. It's going to be terrible. And it's like, the team seems to speak for itself thus far. And plus the subject matter of the Sith and all that, I'm, I'm on board

with this one, Steph. Is there anything I'm missing? No, totally. And I think that we've all talked about, like, Star Wars needs a Game of Thrones type show. Even when House of the Dragon were like, The story, the lore is there. It just, and I think that Andor kind of did that in that sense, like that sort of darker tone that needs to be done. And this is just exciting that it feels like they're hiring someone, kind of like Leslie Headland, that you're like, oh, like you are in the right tone for this specific story. Like it makes me think that they're really thinking outside the box and what would be

the best for this. And it's exciting because that show was so successful that, to your point, of course, she's going to bring in points of what they learned or what she learned from writing on that series and then bring it to there. And then I just like to tonally like what type of writer she is. Because 100, I only watched one season, but it was really good. Okay. Yeah, I don't know.

What do you think about this, Mike? I don't know. Okay. No, I mean, no, you guys have great points. And I don't know. I'm kind of like I have a lot of friends that are writers. And I know that they are, they might be working on projects that are like, you know, not necessarily the right fit for what would be a perfect example our friend Mike Vogel writer

strawberry shortcake he works on and I have a good friend of mine works on strawberry shortcake but I know if they were to get a Star Wars show they would kill it because I know they love Star Wars right right right know what he says like Mike Vogel from Strawberry Shortcake and what the hell right? You're like what from Starvation but I know that's where the work is for them and I know they've got those great stories in them and they're just need the chance so I see something like this and I'm like people are talking about like why would someone say like oh you got a lower expectation.

Like, why? First of all, it's a great show. Yeah. It fits in the milieu of Star Wars. You're talking about, people are, people are, I think less about,

I haven't seen anything of that. I was talking more so about, I keep getting comments. I say that Acklite is my like most anticipated. It's always been for you. Because of where they're landing with it. The period.

Yeah. And now the more stuff I hear about it, the idea that they're shooting on location and they're doing these other. It's more and or less book ofoba. From what it seems like, and it also seems like, you know, we're getting this,

high republic era of the Jedi where they're kind of you know almost like in Andor where the empire is the one kind of on the fat cats of the land like the Jedi are almost like that in this and they're not really paying attention because they don't think they can be overrun and and that that kind of start

of it if they go dark with it I think it's very very promising and when you add someone like this to say like oh yeah and then someone from House of the Dragons also in the writer's room I mean, the question always remains,

and I always have this, it's not always a requirement, but how much of a Star Wars fan is she? Right. Doesn't mean she has to be, but it just adds to it. Leslie Headland is a major Star Wars fan. So that adds to it for me.

I think that's like a bonus. You know, Gilroy, I don't think it was a Star Wars fan. No. And we saw what we got. So I think it's just, like you said, it's a bonus. It just adds 100% to it. And to add that, Gilroy, though,

did something because like, again, this is not a debate on Last Jedi too. But if you compare to me, like if you say, well, you can only watch one, and I think we're all on the same page here. Like, you can only watch one and or all over again or Last Jedi again. One of them has to go. I'm throwing Last Jedi away.

But out of the two of them, Ryan Johnson is a Star Wars fan. Yeah. And Tony Gilroy is not. Right, right. And that's, it's not a fair word. He's clearly a fan of what he's working on. Right.

He wasn't, he wasn't like a hardcore fan and pay attention to those things, but he had a story that he wanted to tell, but the difference was, and this is something I brought up when Diego Luna was in here, the difference was he listens to the, like, when you do, like when he made the artifacts thing,

and he gave all these artifacts from different periods of the Star Wars lore, you think Tony Gilroy had any clue? You think he was the one going, oh, make sure you add this and that. No, he said, find the people that make that. The scene can use some stuff, Star Wars lore. Who you got?

Who you got? And then, and then, I'm not going to like that. I thought Brett just ripped a fat. I wish he did. I heard that. You thought it was a fat one for a second, right? Yeah, I thought that was a really big fatty.

Like that was on the earthquake scale. A big fatty? Yeah, a big fat fart. A wet one. Yeah, I thought he ripped one. Oh my gosh. We thought he was working. Yeah, we thought he was working on something.

Instead, you know, he's just, he's out there drilling something. He's working on something, but it wasn't a fart. No, it wasn't, unfortunately. All right. So, well, we're all excited about it. Exactly. Yeah. All right.

So the jet, you know, before we get into Jetta Survivor, we'll talk about, um, bad batch. So they, they,

they, they, they do that. I know why they did. Because of the angle. Because I think, they wanted, they wanted you to be invested in this full story.

Yeah. Which I think was a very smart move. Yes. I think that this was what I was telling you guys about. This, yeah. Yeah. When I said that there are a few episodes in this show.

Yeah. That when it focuses on the story of what this all things about, with the clones kind of being, pushed out and the intrigue and they get a little darker. This is where the show can shine and it does. And I came back for sure in this one. Yeah. But this is, you guys watched it.

Again, I watched it a little while ago, but I loved these and I knew, and I'm guessing, that you guys were going to respond to and you came in kind of talking about it. So I assume that you both enjoyed it stuff. Oh, yeah, I love these episodes. I thought these were excellent episodes. And I love the what they played into, which was the clones and like the question of their place in it all and how they feel about these inhibitor chips. And then the Senate questioning their place. So like if they can even vote on things, them not having a voice.

And like that sort of question is really intriguing to me. And then like the way that they handled the politics I thought was fascinating. And like this is how I think Star Wars should handle politics where you get raised these questions of like there's groups of people. who just like don't want to be involved because they just don't want to know the problems because it's too many problems. They just want to sit comfortably with where they are, which is such a realistic mirror on people in society. And there's the people who say one thing that's bad and then they're like, treason. And just to see how the empire is like slowly taking over in this way and how the people don't have a voice, I thought was really, really great. And then I watched Alex Damon's

video on it. And he had some interesting points. about how if you look at the whole season, you see like maybe it was intentional to be a little bit frustrated with how the clones had these like adventure of the weeks when really their place in the world is to be doing something bigger. And then you see them doing something bigger. And it's like, oh, yeah, this is what you should be doing. Like kind of like echoes problem from all the seasons being like,

we should be doing something bigger. And then they finally are. And you're like, okay, finally, Jesus. This is the episodes that I would. wanted. Yeah, this is this to me, Mike, is the full show that we were, if you're going to do this show. And I also think why it might have benefited from doing like eight episodes as opposed to what the 16 that they do because they can cut out a lot of the fat if you focus in on storylines like this. But I thought the storyline was about a Star Wars as you get.

And it worked. And I think that even the idea of like in the beginning of it where people are getting picked off left and right. And then the, as Steph mentioned, the politics behind it and the idea, oh, no, no, I don't know what you're talking about. And then like having that senator get involved in it. So, I mean, what did you think overall? Yeah, these were the two, I watched them weird because we didn't have an episode, or we weren't going to cover one last week. I knew that, so that episode dropped, and I was like, oh, I'll watch it eventually. So I watched these two first, and then went back and watched the Wookie Team Up one. Oh, right, which is great also. I didn't really, you didn't like it. You like that one?

Yeah, I thought I was like, eh. Very Ivitar. Yeah. These two, though, you know, talking about, you know, we're going to get them, basically, we're going to get them a pension and we're going to get them this and that. And they're all Like we died for you guys and now we didn't do nothing. Like it's current day our world. How we treat our military. Yeah. It's fascinating.

And to me, like that wasn't like the past couple of the episodes we watched for, I'll have something else on. I'll be at my computer. It's over my shoulder. I'm looking at it. This I'm like sitting down. Engaged. Yeah.

Invested for the two episodes. So, you know, but I think, you know, they probably had a series order of this money thing. And for whatever reason they wanted to. stretch them out. And it's more work for writers. They're writing more episodes so they get more money. Yeah, it's true. But I also love the way that they involved Palpatine though, by the way, like, when you do like the difference of how he was

kind of thrown into episode nine as opposed to this where it was his plan. Like he knew it. Five steps ahead. He used this guy as a scapegoat. He knew what this guy was going to do, and he knew that he could use him as a pawn. And he knew that once he was able to put it in that, it was the same way that he used Jar Jar Jar to get the, to get

the, you know, the, introduction to the introduction to the colon one would have the courage to speak up right right right right and then so now so now he does the same thing but this time coming out as the emperor and you're like and i love that he and mcdermott did the voice again i love that he's back and did it threw you off that it wasn't jimmy smits it wasn't him was it no it hasn't been it it threw me off that because i was the first time i had noticed seen the character i think oh no he's been back he's been in a bad match he was in jett he was in um The, what's it called?

The Tales of the Jedi. I don't remember that. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so maybe it didn't stick out as much, but this stuck out. I was like, but I guess maybe because Ian McDermid was there. I'm just like, yeah.

And usually when they get them, they're so close in voice. Did Liam Mason do Quigon? No, it was his son. It's perfect. Yeah, I thought it was him. Yeah. So this was, it just threw me off.

I was like, that's not Jimmy Smith's at all. Smith's got such a distinct voice. So it does, it threw me off. Yeah, I just, I guess, I'm just used to Philomar doing it at this point. Okay. But I can see. But either way, I thought that it, I liked the way that they played bail into this. This is, and after coming off of a show like Andor, this felt like it could have been a

spin-off show of Andor. Like, you know, like it was in that same kind of vein. Yeah, totally. I really like the tone of these episodes. Even at opening up with Omega meditating and calling back to like the Jedi. Yeah. Because it was a question for a lot of us if she was force sensitive, but she's obviously connected to the force in some way, but she's not forced him.

Right, right. And I like how they, they had Rex involved in it and like all that. I thought they were going to bring Cody back in, but they didn't. But the way that they brought Rex in and then was able to explain that. These were, these were the two strongest episodes so far of this show. Did you get, what was her name, Senator Chi-Chi? I don't remember. She was good, though.

I know, but she reminded me of Omega. They had a similar. I don't know why. I don't think it was the same actress, but I just was like, I don't know why I thought it was like, it's like it can't be the same race. But it just felt very much as like the blonde hair, the way that they taught them was like,

maybe it was a similarity. It's just in the storyline like, hey, we're going to connect them visually because that way for the audience, it'll draw us a connection. But I like how they used, I liked how they used the character for her to kind of take you through that of someone,

because you show that not all the politicians are corrupt and other ones that it do want to know and do want to help and do, hear about the clones and all that in the way that this whole thing came about. And then it does lead into, like I said, there's more episodes. There are a couple, I think that if I remember correctly, because it's been a little bit now since I watched them, but I think that what happens is you start, I think there's, if I remember, because this is what, this is episode six and seven or five and six?

I think it's seven and eight. Seven and eight. I think that there's only if, there's only maybe one or two other filler episodes and then it starts to play into a larger story. if I remember correctly. That's great. Yeah, because there's some really great stuff coming. Okay, cool.

I think, unless it was just me, I only saw 14, and I'm pretty sure there's 16 total. So I am, what I will say is that when I turn off the 14, I'm like, that's it? And then I actively, had I shut it off a couple episodes ago, I'd be like, I don't care of this anymore. Now I'm like, I want to see the last two. So I think it does pick up tremendously,

but I do think that this is one of those shows that I think could have been pulled back to maybe eight to six. 10 episodes. Yes, totally. I totally agree with that. Okay, cool. All right, let's move on.

We're going to go to this. Yeah. The next story is the Jedi Survivor. They released like, I don't know what it was. It was nine minutes of gameplay for Jedi Survivor. It's the sequel to the Fallen Order. And the gameplay looks fantastic. It looks really, it looks really good.

It's some new worlds that Cal is on. They didn't show a lot of story and that's okay. This is also been pushed back by the way by like two or three weeks, which I think makes sense. I think it comes out right after Mandalorian now, which I think, do you know that there's only going to be like two or three weeks of this year where we don't have Star Wars stuff on? That's great. If you think about it, like you got Bad Batch on right now and then Mandalorian and then

this comes out and then you're going to get Asoka and then you're going to get what's, and then skeleton crew. So there's a lot. Oh, yeah. A lot that comes out. But this video, they showed it on IGN, and it looks fun. It looks a lot of fun. It's like the gameplay video shows Cal Kestis and BD1 making their way around a new planet called Kobath.

And according to IGN, the video is set early on in the game when Cal crash lands after a secret mission gone wrong. The planet appears to be a separatist holdout. The video soon shows a Lucre Hulk ship who are parked on the ground and patrols of B1 Battlejoy. B-2 Super Battle droids and Commando droids roaming the surface. Video also showcases some cool combo moves. Execution moves. Fans hoping for slightly less animal killing this time around will at least be revealed to know that the boglings,

the hopping fox creatures, are also present on Kobath. We see a few peaceful kangaroo-looking aliens, plus a massive creature called Toronto Shell, but it's unclear either passive or hostile. In terms of collectibles, forced echoes returns for a cow to absorb, and the video shows them collecting a bomber jacket, cosmetic for a storage

for a storage container. It's unclear if he's going to be collecting different types of jackets now instead of ponchos or if those clothing items will make a return in a slightly more limited capacity. There will be likely a new video showing a more Star Wars Jedi survivor next week. Okay, so that being said,

yeah, this game, what I'm looking forward to is the story on the first one was fantastic. And I've I have said many times over if you're brand new to the show, you're going to hear me say over the first time. If you're not brand new, this will be the million time that I've said this. I'm just at that, like I was, I'm playing

the Last of Us right now, right? The Last of Us does the same thing that Uncharted did wonderfully is if you start going the wrong way, it basically pops up and goes, hint, stupid, go the other way, right? Okay. That's talking to guys like me. All right. That needs it. And fall in order, it's like you keep falling off a cliff.

Like, I tried to fall off Cliffs in Last Us on purpose and they won't let you. Okay. You can fall off everything in the first one. And it just brings you back and it won't tell you where to go and you spend. I don't have, I don't have enough time to spend three hours in one little thing talking to cows. I just don't have enough time in my life. So the rumor is that they paid attention to morons like me,

and they're just going to help you get through the story of it. Even if you put it on easy. It's the idiot mode, I think. It's idiot mode. And I need to be an idiot. Okay. Because I want to play the story, but I still want to play the game, but I don't want to get frustrated at the game because it's not the game's fault.

It's my fault. I understand it. Okay. It's not you. It's me. All right. I get it. But they apparently, it looks great.

Yeah. I'm sure the story is going to be fun. And I want to know because I heard this rumor a while ago that they were developing this Calcasta show, live action. If this game, this is very popular, if this game hits and maybe they announced something and maybe they announced something at celebration, I don't know, step further.

So two questions, what do you think of the footage? And then do you think that they're going to play into a Calcasta series because we have not gotten any information. The Disney shareholders thing is today, I think, by the way. But we have got not any information on new series or anything yet. I think that if the show does great, I mean, if the game does great, then yes. Especially because of The Last of Us. I think every studio is kind of inspired by The Last of Us, and they're like, okay,

they've done something right with games, and it's like igniting the world. So how do we do this? And I think Jedi Fall in Order, the story, I agree, was really great. And the person who voice, I forget his name, but the actor is supposed to be playing the live action, right? Which I think is great. I think that only fuels that fire. So I think that it could be really cool to see Star Wars try to adapt a game into a show. I think stuff makes a great point here, Mike, that, you know, with Last of Us, for a while leading up, there was a video game started to get a little taboo because nobody could crack the coat, right?

Right. And people keep writing, well, I don't know, Sonic did it. And Castlevania did it. No, no, no. They took a title. Yeah. And they made their own story and they were able to be. I mean, even Uncharted was a success, by the way.

I know, but it was a success. Was it, though? It made a lot of money, is the point. So in business terms. But as far as adaptation, the best adaptation I've seen a video game so far at all has been the last of us. Like Max Payne was ruined, all these other things were ruined. This was, when you watch The Last of Us, there are things about the Last of Us that are taken directly from the game, and then they spin off and do their own thing as well, too.

Do you think that now my point that Steph made, I thought, was really well made, was that Lucasfilm goes, okay, this is a very popular game twice, and now we can do what they did in a live action series with this Calcestis kid, and you get someone on the camera mine in hand. What do you do? Do you do it? I think the code of, you know, video game movies and whatnot is cracked because it's long-form storytelling. Video games, minimum, 10, 12 hours.

Agreed. And to cram that in two hours, is awful. I'll say this to the blue in the face. Immortal combat series set in a Game of Thrones type setting would be incredible. Anyway, the Star Wars thing. I think, yeah, fans love it.

They love this guy. They love this character and this actor in this role. It's a great actor. So I think that to me was a shoeing. You know, when you were listing those things back in the day of like a Lando show. No. Right. This thing.

I want to see him pop though, too, because he was in Shameless, wasn't he? Yes. He was in Shameless. Yes. And his brother, and his brother and shameless is the kid in the bear, right? Yes. So, like, I want to see those. I want to see them both.

The kid's a great actor. Isn't that the same actor? I say kid, but he's from. That was an Andor? No, no, no. No, his, in the bear, the cousin. The cousin. Okay, okay.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So either way. So either way. Yeah, it's a given. Yeah, I'm, I'm excited to see it potentially happen. But with Star Wars fans and whatnot Because they love the game so much

Yeah Do they want the game adapted into a show Or do they want what Last of Us is doing And take its inspiration and tell its own story No, no, but remember what I think it's due What The Last of Us is doing And that is, remember So did you play Last of Us?

Let me tell you about that game No, no, no, no, I don't need a full thing I just need if you play it I play the first 15 minutes And I was stuck Couldn't get out of a ditch with a ladder And I was like Because I can learn to a charge

If I figured out you're an idiot Hold on. It's between the two of those by the same company, naughty dog, this and that. I was like, nope, I'm uncharted. All right. Well, I figured it out. Last of us is like, I'm going to creep behind this dumpster with this ladder and I got to get out of this ditch for 20 minutes. If I couldn't figure it out, if I couldn't figure it out of it.

If I couldn't figure it out of it. And I'm in war on when it comes to game. So, and you play it all the time in your underwear. So you play, you couldn't figure it out of it? I don't know. Where my underwear? I play. Brett figured it out too.

And Brett's a moron too. So you're out of this. aren't all the people who played last of us saying that it's staying really true to story. So that was my point before we got into the latter conversation. I will say that what I thought after, I haven't played the game all the way through yet because I don't want to be spoiled. Yeah. So what I have noticed from playing is that there are stuff that they pull directly from the game.

Yeah. And then having the creator involved, then goes, well, let's let's veer off a little bit. We'll stay true to what the show is and what the game is. But let's, but let's veer off. And there's a scene in episode three, four. that is pulled directly from the game. I mean, directly, it's pretty much word for word, shot for shot.

And then... Is that when they're in the car? Yes, comic? Yes. And then it veers off magazine. But then it veers off to another... Instead of going, I think they go to...

It's Pittsburgh they go to in the game. They go to Kansas City. And they do other things, right? So they're telling you... So I have no problem if it's in Jedi, fall in order. They make the game. But the difference is,

what they might do because of Star Wars can. And I think that they should make a big. I've talked about this many times on this show, make an announcement that we're no longer sticking to Canada anymore because you've decided that that doesn't count anymore, right? So adapt your game however you want, but veer off if you need to. Veer off a little bit from the game.

It's fine. And I think as long as you stay true to the essence of who Calcestis is, that fans aren't, I wouldn't mind. Yeah, I agree. Like they just, I always watch, this is when I know I'm obsessed with the show when I watch the after part on HBO.

And I love the way the creators talk about their decision making on The Last of Us. Because certain things in the game really worked, but for storytelling for TV, it wouldn't have worked. Like how some of the spores, like, would, like, spread out. It's like that would, like, ruin some of the action. Yeah. And that's the beauty of having, like, the creator on board. And I think that that's something that I wonder if Lucas film would be able to do. Because for God takes, I don't even put the damn writers of books in writers' room, which is so stupid.

It's like if you put the, if you're going to make the game, bring in the writers of the game to collaborate with screenwriters. And also don't just say, well, thanks. We own that. We'll take it. We'll take it from here. That is where you, that is what the common mistake of video games have been in the past.

It's an ego thing a lot of times. Yeah. It truly isn't. It's an elitist thing. The filmmaking industry. There were years for years. People are always like, why are you not bringing Bruce Tim and, you know, Eric Donsky.

They are the video game guys. We're the film guys. The Batman anime series. These guys and Paul Dini, these guys that created the greatest iteration of Batman of all time into the movie rooms. Like, that's animation. Keep on there. It's a story. A good story is a good story and characters pop for a reason.

It seems nowadays these creatives are now taking more change. Like, no, these are the guys that know the characters. Bring them in. Let's hear their voices. It's happening more often. And I wish that, like I said, I'm still, I'm going to say it on this show every time we can to hopefully that one day it comes to fruition. Now, when you start to do these writers' rooms, as we start to see in the Acklite and everything else, too, I hope someone like a Leslie Headland, if Acklight goes to the second season, brings in someone like Claudia Gray or a Drew Carpecian or somebody along,

especially a Drew Carpecian who's played in the old Republic era and brings in people who have worked on books to go, okay, what are those stories? And let them lend their voice, too, because those authors, and then if they're going to make these video game adaptations, bring in the writers of those games. If you're going to do Old Republic, bring in Drew Carpeachian who help create Revin, right? Like do that stuff and they'll say, oh, well, we don't need those guys. They helped us create it, but we got the really professionals. Now, that's the elitist, stupid old school attitude. We got the guy that just won the Academy Award for Tar.

He's going to do our Star Wars movie. You're laughing because it's true. It's like they see that gold statue and the acclaims. Who's the hot director? Who's the hot writer? Who's got the acclaims? It's okay. It's okay.

You've got to have the balance. That guy might be a Star Wars fanatic. Who knows? I mean, again, when you say Tony Gilroy, you know, but Tony Gilroy should be the gold standard in the side of not on the how he shot it, not in everything else because that was all brilliant. It was how he collaborated. Collaboration.

It's the collaboration with the actors. It's the collaboration with the story. It's a collaboration with the team. That's why it worked. Right. Because it was a collaboration where he just didn't decide to do his own thing. It was his thing, but he made it work inside of this world that even when something in the beginning, it looks like Blade Runner, but it still feels like Star-Bron.

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All right, let's get into, speaking to you guys, we've got some questions, some questions. Let's get into some questions. Some questiones. John Jackal, with the ending of the latest Bad Batch episode, do you think that opens up an Echo Rex live action appearance in Asoka would be an interesting tie-in as would Amarabia's Omega appearance? I don't think there's any shot in a hell you get Omega.

or Margar Robbie, but I do think you could go to Vegas and put $100 and win some money if you bet on Rex showing up for sure. I think Rex shows up. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think Echo is much, but I think Rex because Rex is, I think anybody, because Echoes nowhere to be found during Rebels, is he? No, I don't think so. Rex just is also because of the nature of his relationship with Osoka.

Yeah, so I think, I think it's pretty much a guarantee that this is going to be the next season of Rebels, except that instead of animation, it's live action, I think you're going to see everybody inside. I think you're going to see Zeb. I think you're going to see Zeb. I think you're going to see everybody. Speaking of Herra real quick, and we'll go back to that question, did you guys hear the rumor, and this could be just a rumor, but replacing the role of Kara Dune in Mandalorian is Hera? Have you heard this? No. I've not heard that at all. Yeah, I don't know. That's not going to go over well at all. I would be stoked.

Is that? It's coming from, I don't know where it's going. It's, is it a text? Yeah. But I don't have a damn Bluetooth on. Yeah. I don't know what,

it's not a text. Oh. I don't know what that is. Brett's pooping. It's driving me nuts. Yeah, it's a geopet. It's driving me nuts. I'm hungry.

I'm turning it off. But anyway, a geopet. So I would be stoked. Yeah, I don't necessarily know. I don't even, I, personally I'm good with them focusing on Katie Sackoff's character the rest of the Mandalorians that are around

and Dinn and Grogu I don't really need in all the other characters that we have already I'm so good with like never thinking about Caradun's character again but I mean look I love the character as Caradine I thought it she served well and I think that once everything went down you know with that whole scenario that someone had asked do you think they were going to replace that Rangers the New Republic, they already did. It's skeleton crew.

I mean, the slot was replaced. Yeah. Of what, not concept. That show, and you go back and you watch Kathleen Kennedy's announcement about how it was supposed to set up this signature event. When she announced at the investors meeting and at 2020, she said it's going to, Rangers of the New Republic, which was set up this epic kind of big event. I think that once all, it all went down and they lost the Rangers and New Republic show.

They scrapped it and they said, what do we develop? And I think that whatever your fantasy scenario is, that maybe on the set of No Way Home, John Watts and Fabro started talking. And he's like, let's develop something. And then here comes the skeleton crew. And then that fits the spot of no,

of Rangers. So either way, all that, all that happens. And I think that it's interesting. I don't know where we, where do we spawn from. I lost my transplant.

The question. Yeah. The original question with Hera. Yeah. As far as Hera, as far as Hera goes, I think that. But I don't know.

The only reason I think that if you're going to do that, first of all, you got to show Jason Solo. If that's a Jason solo, Jason is her son. So if that's the case, you got to show Jason because she's, this is afterwards. And so she's got the kid. Maybe you don't necessarily have to show them, but you could. And that's a way to introduce her to the audience. If you shows up in the Mandalorian is a way to introduce her then. And then put her in Asoka.

because if you haven't watched Rebels and you watch the Mandalorian, you'll know who she is. That's true. Yeah, she might be like in an episode. Do I think she would be a reoccurring character? I think they have way too much to tackle, but who's to say?

Well, yeah, but I mean, look, they're bringing in, I mean, you just never know if how he gets into gesture. And I think that, remember also, rumors are that her is Elizabeth Winstead. So if you... I can't believe that hasn't been confirmed yet. How is that never?

They're saving it. They're saving it, but like, we all know. I mean, I think that for, if you're going to, Maybe it's because they're saving it because they wanted to show up in Mandalorian. Who knows? Yeah.

But as far as Rex going, that kind of ties into everything else. Do you think with Rex and Timo Morrison, you think they're going to do some digital stuff to his face? I think you have to. Because what I love about the show, he's older. He's supposed to be older. What I love about the Clone Wars and Rebels and all this and we've seen is every time we see these troopers, they all look like the same, but they're different. They do vastly different things. Some are thinner, heavier, gaunt.

some have hair. Right. I love that. I think you need to maybe do a little, you know, do some different of this face. There's so many filters they can put on. Like I was just watching Bullet Train for the first time. There's some scenes where they didn't like fully retouched Brad Pitt's face.

And you can see the smooth that they do under his eyes. Wait, what? Yeah. What do I do? They put an older actor, older actors do this. Probably younger actors too. They put a smooth filter on their face. And sometimes if they don't fully edit it or render it,

you can see the blur. and they blur under the eyes. Like that's the most like identifiable place because it is like the first place I feel like people age. So you could do so many things that are easy. Like in then if he's like if he's in a mask half the time. He's supposed to be a little older though. Right.

At that point. It's supposed to be. I mean, Yeah. Are we? Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah.

Let's get hung up on this. Go ahead. What are you? I'm indulging in the conversation. Sure. Let's go on. Beauty filters. Get into it.

Yeah. I don't believe in this. No one believes in it. You think I just made that up? I know, I know you didn't make it up. I 100% believe it's true. I don't believe in it, though. Oh, oh, you think they should just be shot how they look?

Well, it goes back to the day when they used to put Vaseline on the lens. Oh, yeah. Or they would put a stretch panty hose over it for the ladies. It's a softer filter. Huh? Yeah. The top gun guy? They better not do anything to him.

They already have. They already have. I bet you they do that filter. He's with the aliens. All right. Yeah. Let's go to the next one. John Crum.

Ha! Crum laughs at you. What? Crum laughs at you. It's from Korni. Krom. I know, but his name is John Krum. Gee.

I didn't even get the first joke. That's my IG. I have to. Ha! Krum laughs at you. With Tales of the Jedi being a big hit, do you think that Lucasfilm would do a live action anthology series taking place all the way throughout the saga?

This could be a way to integrate more Legends content into Canon. What do you think? I love the show and all the weekly content in the channel. Thank you, John. Do you think that there would be live act? Do you think that it could happen throughout the saga? I mean, listen, I hope so. Yeah.

Anything is possible inside of it. And I think that there's still, we want to cross our fingers that they're going to, as Mike says, and this is where I agree with Mike where it's like the first. But let's just stop playing in one area. And that's why I'm so excited again about the acoly. We're going into an area that we haven't explored. This is way before the prequels, like 100 years or something before the prequels. Everything else is in the same area.

I mean, the Faloni-Favro universe is right in the area of like, five years or something after Jedi, Obi-Wan around the same area of the, right a little after the prequels, and then you get Andor, which is right before Roke 1. It's like, we haven't explored. That's why even the Lindelof stuff is exciting

because it's a explore, because it's the unknown. It's the unknown. That's the Outer Regents stuff, right? No, the, that's unknown regions is the Flonie Favreau universe of the Asoka and Skeleton crew. Got skeletic.

Yeah, but which is also, but that's a good point, though. It's also interesting because we're exploring new things, right? So, but I think that doing something like this and exploring the time, and like, I've told you, this is the thing that I would love for them to do is just a show, and I would love to see it as a live action show, but if they do it animated, fine, but just a show called the Star Wars show. And it's like, just called the Star Wars show. Because, oh, we're not the Star, but it's called Star Wars, whatever it is,

but what I mean is this, it doesn't, any episode could be at any period in time. Yeah. So if it opens up, it, it could be a three-episode arc similar to Andor where it could take place Neal Republic, but the next one could be two-episode arc, similar to Tales of the Jedi. Or like what if, but like actually not what if. Yeah, tales of... Right, you can call it whatever you want to say.

Right, that's interesting. So like an anthology said and like, let creators come in and do any period. It's the star, and the way you're telling them is it's the start, you don't have to call it the Star Wars show, but you're saying it's the Star Wars show where you're like, okay, look, I've got a, I have a whole, I have two episodes that I want to do about like a band of brothers from like Alexander Fried's book that he's, that he did from Battlefront, right? and you just have like this

and that's what the two episodes are and then the next episode is about a Sith apprentice and the next episode is about this and it's just like it's just, you're just watching it for these particular episodes. I'd love that, but I can see if they were to go the creatives would want to find some way

to weave it all together. Yeah, I mean, and I think that's a mistake. So that's the problem where it never gets past this stage where we're talking right now. I was like, ah, now forget it. But imagine if you had that show and then you're like, hey, listen,

I want to do three episodes of BobaFat. Does imagine there is no Boba Fett show? There's no tale of, hold on, there is no Boba Fett show. And there's this show that exists. And they're like, I want to do three episodes of seeing what has happened to Boba Fett since his tales with Mandalorian. And it's a three episode gangster thing. And then if it goes well, then we'll revisit it in a couple months or a couple years.

And it's one of the reasons why it doesn't, it's not on people's lists anymore. Top list is what if. When that was announced, the comic was awesome. Because it was standalone issues. If you didn't like this one next week, it's something different. Right. they had to put the through line and connect it and it's the multiverse and this and that

and people don't care about that show would it when he asked season two everyone's like when's cat four coming out like they don't care about it so it's a tough thing with something like that's also animated too I know I know it does so that Star Wars thing I think it's what was named John?

That was yeah Crom. Crom last year I think it's a fantastic idea I think it would work great I could see them go well we'll just make it animated and just keep it that Oh that's yeah I know we're in the same page Okay, he and I.

All right, let's go to the next question here. Thank you, John. That would be, there's a ton of them. Oh, boy. There we go. Let's do, we'll start from here. So, Richard Geng, how do you interpret the phrase a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away? I mean, I always, that's why I always tell people when they, anytime people bring up the whole, hey, can you do, can you, it would be great if they did a, like, if Marvel was in Star Wars.

And I said no, for a lot of different reasons. One, no. And two, because it's a long time ago, meaning that if you went to Earth, the dinosaurs might not even be on the planet at this point because it's a long time ago. Time works differently. And in a galaxy far, far away.

So, yeah, eventually they're going to, I hope that they don't explore Earth. I really don't want them to ever go to Earth. Oh, God, no. Ever. Yeah. It's funny you say that because I, I mean, I don't know if I've ever thought about it yet.

We look at the galaxies and all the different, those telescopes that have shown us pictures. recently and it's just like but I don't think I've ever even thought of earth existing existing yeah I've always just thought their humans are basic or the basic language that that's what we are so yeah I never thought earth even exists in that world right what do you think I just don't think earth exists I think it's just like clear your mind because we're going to go somewhere completely different and I don't even want you to think about your home planet yeah and like time moves differently like it's just like a pallet cleanser and I

I love the fact that Star Wars has not gone into time travel yet. They haven't, right? Yeah, it's rebels. Rebels. And I think they'll probably do it again in Assook. Okay, see, I don't. But they did it? I think in a good way.

Did they? Yeah, so what it worked, and this will be a spoiler. No, it wasn't. This would be a spoiler for people who haven't seen rebels. But so I think it's in season two, Asoka fights Vader. And it's a really emotional kind of, it's a great battle. And then they basically did the same thing for Obi-Won.

That's why I had less of an impact for me, where he slashed, you know, And Obi-1 slash the hellway to see the face. It's exactly what Osok does. And that's why I had less of an impact. Did Osok know that was Anakin or no? It's when she finds out. Like she had like, so when he kind of senses her in one of the episodes and she's kind of, she feels it.

But then when she sees his face, she's like Anakin. And then when he realizes he's far gone, then she fights him. Yeah, because she finds out in the end of Clone Wars. And then she, and then, but she's never faced him until rebels. Okay. And they face each other. They have this battle. And then at the end of it, you don't know.

what happens to her. You kind of think that she's either dead or you don't know. I mean, he walks out of it. He's like limping out, but he's made it out. Yeah. And it's a really great moment,

but everyone's like, well, what's happened to Osoga? Nobody knew for a while. And he kind of teased it. And it turns out that in the, like, season finale, there's this thing,

the world between worlds, which, again, I always say, I understand when people go, time travel shouldn't happen in Star Wars. And I, and a lot of times I, 99% of the time agree.

Yeah. And we've talked about this. The only, it's, when you compare it to, Marvel and DC who use it. Star Wars is the only thing because of time and space and the way it works, that it would make the most sense because of just the mechanics of space and time. And I always say if you think about like interstellar and when he goes to that planet

and how like time works just so differently, when you're in different planets, time works differently. So time travel would make more sense in Star Wars and Star Trek and all that. But anyway, so in Rebels, Ezra, who's the main characters, goes through this thing where time kind of stops and he sees inside him on these portals, he sees the fight with Soka and Vader. And as Vader's about to kill her, he pulls her into the thing.

And that's why she disappears, because he saved her. And that's how. How did he create that portal? It already existed. I think Yoda shows him the way through that. I think, I got to go back.

I'm going to rewatch it before Asoka. It's something that we should watch. I haven't watched it in a while, but that's what I gather from it. The World Between Worlds. And I think that I think... Is it in season two? Two is when they fight.

Yeah. And then it's season three or four. It's like the last season. Right, right. It's season four. Yeah, I'm not there yet because I just am at. Oh, you haven't finished. I just spoiled it.

No, no, no. I'm on a rewatch. Oh, okay. I'm on season three. So I just got to the Sabine Mandelor. Great. Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to rewatch as well too. Especially before Asoka, because like I said, I, I really do recommend before Asoka,

you watch rebels. I agree. It's so good. It's good. And it's also because this is the, this is the next season. This is a season of Rebels. Okay. And you can look up.

I think like some, like, websites have, like, must watch episodes. Like, there's some that you don't need to watch, like, adventures, but not that many are adventure of the week. All right, let's go. I don't think there's a lot of it at all. No, not at all. There's probably, like, five. But I'm just saying if you want to save time.

F.J. DeRoberis, do you think we will ever see the Star Wars opening crawl again? It's a really sad question. That is a great question, though. It's a great question, but it's a sad question because I hate the answer. The answer is no for a long time because, again, putting things in definites and putting things in saying we're not going to use the crawl unless it, because the crawl is designated for the saga series. Well, they're saying there's no more of those episodes for a while, right?

So there's no, there's no episode 10 anytime soon. I think that the Star Wars crawl should be in every damn movie. I agree. Every damn movie. It's part of Star Wars. Every damn movie it should be part of it. Just telling a story of, this is it with the music and everything too and leading into it. Every damn movie should have the open,

should have the Star Wars music and lead into it. And then give it its own music. If it's a standalone thing, give it its own thing. But the crawl and everything is synonymous to Star Wars. I think it was an absolute mistake to take it away. Yeah, and I think it gives them an advantage. Like, not every movie can pull off having a crawl because you're like,

oh, you just want to give us exposition so you can get straight into it. They can get away with that. Because it's Star Wars. It's Star Wars. So now you can give us all this information instead of spending time and wasting film time showing it. People would lose their minds. I'll tell you, this is a way to get the audience back, though, in a certain aspect.

If Linda Lof starts his new movie with The Crawl and they start reintroducing the crawl, the audience will go, okay, it's back. I mean, I'll tell you, people don't realize how much it's missed. What do you think? I don't think we're ever getting it back. I think it's the Star Wars. I think it's the Skywalker saga. Yeah, that's what I, yeah.

You missed it when you didn't do it for Roe. roger solo. So you don't think, I agree with you. I just think that, but don't you think that you can win it back if you put it back?

I don't know, because for me, it was always the 20th century Fox fanfare. We don't get that anymore. Yeah, well, yeah, I know,

but that's... Don't get that with the TV shows. So for me to, to hold on to that, it's Star Wars. Mm-hmm. The Fox logo, the crawl,

that was Star Wars for me. So we moved past that. But it's a storytelling mechanism. Now for me with the TV shows, it's the masks with the light flashing cross with that. I understand for the TV shows. That's a logo.

Yeah, no, but I know what he's saying. But it's just the whole thing. It's just the whole thing. But I understand what you mean to it. It's a storytelling. I think you're both making a point. So to you, it's like you just, when we were younger, the Fox logo, the, do, the beginning. It was, it was what we recognized Star Wars with.

But I think Steph's point is that it was also a way to really kind of get you into the story. And especially something like the Lindelof thing, which takes place supposedly after episode nine, what a way to say, hey, this is what's been going on since. then. They're going to do it. You think so? But then what's the difference then? Why are you not doing it for the TV shows? I don't need it.

Like you said, you want more connectivity between all your properties. I mean, you could. That's either one way to do it all. But at this point, ships of sale on different properties. If it was up to me, I would include it on every damn thing to make it.

It's our thing. It needs to be one or the other. It needs to be not just movies, TV, animated, everything or nothing. I don't know. What I mean? What I mean by that? But, yeah,

I don't agree with that either. Why not? Because I think you can make it sound as for movies. Every episode, you'd be like, I know. Oh, yeah, yeah, not every episode. You're never the first episode of a show. Because then you're telling the story that started with that first episode. It's still the long story.

But you have a whole season to tell the story. They have two hours. You still could set up stuff. Totally. I'm not saying you, I wouldn't be mad. I don't think they need to do that. Like skeleton crew. Let me know what's going on.

Yeah, I mean, look, you could make it work. But I'd also think that for films, though, you know, you could say it's, to me, it makes more sense if they said, because when I say Arthiannum, I'm talking about Lucasfilm. Like if they're like, if they go, if they're like, hey look, nobody else does this. The crawl's our thing. That's what we do. Like let's do that for the movies.

Let's bring it back. And then for each movie that we do, but we save it for the movies. And I can understand how they said that. They're like, okay, the TV. And they're like, it's a movie thing. Like, because it's that would go, that take the, the pill would be easier to swallow. If they're like, hey, we're getting rid of the crawl for, it. It doesn't make sense for TV.

Because TV, we're going to get right into it. We're going to move. And then you guys. Right. But for movies, it's always been our thing, and we feel like it's been missing. What I hope that they don't, what they don't feel like is we already said that we can't do it. And it would save for the Star Wars saga. So we kind of shot ourselves in the foot.

It's like, you can be forgiven. You know what I say then to that? I agree. I think you go back and Rogue One and Solo put one in. They would never do that. I know they never will. But hey, I know. They look at what they went back and redid how many times they redid the first three films.

Well, that was Lucas. I know, but just throw it on there. Also, those are specifically wedged in storylines. Like, they're prequels, basically, right? To the storylines that we already have. Like, I think it's okay if you're going to have Lindeloff going in the future to be like, Ray has been doing this. Like, this is where, like.

But what? You make a great point with that way. You're like, Ray has been doing this. Palpatitas return. Right. How? Those crawls have were used to. No, it wasn't.

Cover crap that were like, what? Right. No. Listen, listen. Yeah, that wasn't great. Palpatinas return. How? How?

Well, that was, I mean, look, those come, those aren't even, Lucas didn't create the crawls. The crawls, the crawls. The crawls were from like the 1940s and all that stuff. So, like, that's why maybe they feel like it's a dated thing, but I think it's just so, I don't know. It's just, we'll see, but it's a great question. Craig McRobby at the upcoming celebration event, do you believe that Lucas film must really pull out all the stops for the accolade as they've done nothing at all to hype it up or get their work? out on it. Thank you. Did you write that yourself and just use that name right there?

I think you did. I know. I know. Yeah, you can call me Craig. I, yeah, they have to. I mean, they have to. I think at this point, though,

I mean, they're filming, they've been filming for three months. Yeah. They're going to get the whole cast up there. Everything. It's going to be really great. Right.

Yeah. I mean, I think they show a trailer because, I mean, look, the show at that point will be four months, five months and probably wrapped and they'll have something that they can put together. that might be exclusive to celebration.

Yeah. That might not be anything that the public gets. Right. It's shooting in England too, isn't it? Yeah, so they'll have something. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they'll have something. I was going to say, if it wasn't shooting in England, I don't know.

Remember this, though, too, another reason why. I don't know, but if it's England, the cast is there. Yeah, it's going to be huge. I want to make this clear. It wasn't that they didn't show trailers. It wasn't that they didn't show anything. That's not the issue that I think any of us had on this panel about why they, it was that it wasn't even anything.

acknowledged. It wasn't even, like, even when they mentioned, like, the Daredevil series isn't coming out for like another two or three years or something, but they mentioned it. They talked about it at D23. Kevin Feigeber was another one of the things that we have, and they mentioned all the projects that they had. And it wasn't like one of these things were like, well, we don't know if the show is even going to happen. So we're not going to mention it. It was about to shoot. And you didn't even get an announcement from Amanda Estenberg until they were on the red carpet at Comic Con. It wasn't even in, it wasn't D23. It wasn't Star Wars Celebration. It wasn't even mentioned. And they showed Willow.

So it's like, Star Wars Celebration. So it was a weird thing. It was weird. It's like D23, I understand why Willow was there. It makes sense. It's a D20th. It's a Disney plus thing. But it's like a Lucas film announcement panel and they don't even talk about it.

So the same would go like they've got to talk about the acolyte because it's also the only right now, the only game in town in 2024 right now. I mean, and or season two will most likely be announced. in Star Wars Celebration, and then something else to fill the void. Unless, Iger, because Chaypec was the one like streaming, streaming, streaming, everything, you have 75 shows this year. Maybe Iger goes, let's just release two next year and then work on the movie. Where do you think we're going to land stuff?

Yeah, I think that now it's like we've always talked about the showmanship of Marvel and like their announcements. Now you have James Gunn, who's like connecting with the audience in a different and great way too. Like people love it. I think that they can't, I don't know, you just have to be kind of like really out of touch not to pick up on it now. Like everybody's getting their ducks in a row, right? And so I think they'll have some sort of plan, like whether it be announcing two shows and more movies or giving like really, really great, like get excited for this. You know what I think they need to start doing also too is like, I'm not going to be on this, the train of everyone.

go Kennedy needs to go. But what I think Kennedy needs to stop doing, she needs to stop making the announcements. I think let, Faloni or Favro or somebody else make the announcements. And because to me, when you're at celebration

and she walks out, it seems like a TED talk. It seems like, you know, it seems like a presentation to... She's not a showman. No, and she doesn't seem like one of the fans, right? She doesn't seem like,

it seems like, oh, here's our announcement of what you watch, go back and watch that announcement when she has this, when she's talking about the Knights of the Republic, the Rangers of the Republic and how it ties in, she's reading off a prompter. It doesn't seem like she gives a shit about it, right? And then you have like, whether it's Flon, Favreau, anybody that else to make, or find someone new, you know, whoever he or she might be.

And you have them say, we've got this. Like you said, James Gunn comes out and goes, we got this thing, we got this, we have this, we have the writers in the room who are doing this and this and that. I'm writing this, like, we already started this. Whatever. And we're so excited to be able to them doing. And if Faloni was the one making the announcements, and it could be Kennedy's objective.

If it was all Kennedy's thing, but Faloni's making that announcement, it's one of the, oh, wow, it seems pretty excited about that. It just doesn't seem as genuinely connected. And I think that's one of the issues. Filoni strikes me as the kind of guy

who doesn't want to say announce anything until it's announced. 100%. Every time we suspect, it's like, uh, you're going to make me say this, aren't you? Yeah.

I don't want to talk about this. I think a bit of that is a show. He's not the guy to talk. And I don't know. Favro, I would think would be your guy. Favro is probably the guy that's doing it. But you know what I'm saying, though.

But yes. But I mean, exactly what you're saying. She is an executive that was in a position of these nerd properties. Right. And it's like, and it's like, and I'm not saying.

She'd be great. I'm sure. Show West. You know, like the big thing talking about 85 and this is our slate and this is what we've got. When she's, when she is talking to the investors. Yes.

That's who she works. That's the language she talks to. And they're like, Okay, and writing it down. But it's Star Wars celebration. It's a different animal. It's like the president of the academy coming out of the Academy Awards. Get out of here.

Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out. The industry's changed, you know. Like when, yeah, punch yourself away. Last week. Like, now with social media and the connections that the fans have with the creators, you have to be a showman. Or have a show.

I'm saying, like, hire someone. When you're communicating to the audience, they want to be involved with your projects. Yes, 100% of you also want to feel. feel like, well, that's one of us. Right. Fygie and Gunn feel like one of the peeps. And again, it doesn't matter who it is. It just got to feel like, again, he or she needs to feel like one of us.

Genuine. Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's what I mean. If it's a figurehead that comes out there, if they hire some guy to be the Star Wars guy, and he doesn't. It's got a few. You can happen with actors when they come on and say, I'm so excited. I've been a Star Wars fan since I was a kid and how I get to play in the sandbox. If you feel like you're reading a teleprompter, if you feel like you're reading it as a,

and that's why I said like one of the best. Big things about that DC announcement was when the announcement of the thing that stood out to me the most was talking about those writer rooms and saying who was in the rooms, people from movies and TVs and comic book writers and all these people in the room who were adding their voices to it. And that's what I hope for with Star Wars. But let's get to actually, I got a wrap. I got a wrap. I realize I realize I got something I got to do.

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