The Kristian Harloff Show - Will new Star Wars movies definitely be announced at Star Wars Celebration 2023?

Episode Date: February 27, 2023

Star Wars Celebration is right around the corner and there should be a handful of announcements. Will we finally get the plan and details on the new movie slate? What will happen? Acolyte news, Bob Iger says they are leaning heavy into the Big IP and Star Wars is one of them. Bad Batch Episode 9 spoiler talk and more. Kristian Harloff and Mike Kalinowski discuss! #starwars #badbatch #starwarscelebration #movies ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.athleticgreens.com/bigthing MANCSCAPED: http://www.manscaped.com/bigthing Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

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Moving towards us. I just want to give everybody everybody, but you know as we get into these tours. All right, let's get into it. Mike? Yeah. Bad batch. Yeah.

What do you think? Another one of those ones? Yeah. It's an episode. What'd you like, what you didn't like? Uh, I mean, what can I say about it? It was fine.

A little lion king in there, I thought, with the running down the pathway and the things getting chastened and whatnot. I found it funny. I was one of the guys, you know, PLD, right? You mean the guy who runs the Patreon?

Yeah, you know, P-D-D-D. He tweeted out. He had a guy, I had to bring it up. He said, in this enhancement episode, the enhancement episode, as opposed to a filler episode. It's like, I get the character building,

and people like these small episodes for the character building. It's like, we know, Echo or Omega loves the pack. Right. She loves them. They're not together right now. She's upset because they all work together as a team.

Right. We got that. What did this build that propelled the character? Filler episodes... You think we saw it already. Well, yeah. What do you need to build more relationship? Especially two seasons in with these people.

Like, you know, we... You have filler episodes, stupid term. Like in Mando. They build relationships. Right. But this, like, what did it build? that they work together better as a group? Harder for me to say.

What was it? Harder for me to say because I know what comes after. And I do think, I don't necessarily think it's a full filler. As people say, I do think that it is relevant in general. I think it does strengthen it. But I do also agree that I think they could have maybe focused in more on one of the type of episode that they had like last week. Yeah, I just, they might have been given a series order. Like you've got to do X-month episodes like, gee,

Jesus, we can, this story, if we stretch it over those, it's going to be too much. It'll be boring. All right, well, we've got a couple episodes of just going to Ventures of the Week. Yeah, and this one felt like that again. Yeah. And that, what's her name? The lizard girl sending him out of the bounties. She sucks.

She sucks. And crap, she sends them out. I can't help you. Oh, well. All right. And they bail on her. All right. Well, can you hang tight for a couple days?

Like, fuck you lady. Right, right. She sucks. It's really permanent, man. She sucks. She sucks. Is it real permanent? Yeah, it's a real promo.

Wow. Cheers. Yeah. Indeed. But I'm more so, like I said, when I was telling you guys about this, these are the types episodes you get. But you haven't seen them all. I've seen 14.

They only offered 14 out of the 16. Why didn't they give you the other two? I probably don't. They might be big spoilers or something. I don't know. I don't know why. But either way, I knew that we were getting more stuff like this, but I will say that what comes later, you're going to be in the same type of mindset you were last week because

you came in your last week going, oh, this is great. Yeah. This is a type of show. want to see. There are more episodes like that. I don't doubt it. Yeah, just, but it's when you have to watch episodes like this, you're just like, I felt the same. It's like, okay. Okay. All right. You're drilling. They're putting the child in peril again. Okay. This is basically just the bread at the restaurant before the meal comes, which is

Mandalorian. And you'll always eat the bread. You'll never go, ah. I don't want it. I don't want that. No, I got, I got a little butter, a little olive oil, please. It's bread and butter. And you're like, okay, you know what? I'm not full yet. Right. Bring on the meal. I'm not going to eat enough for this to get full. Right. It's not going to satisfy me even if I do. But the meal's coming, man.

And it's coming on March 1st. And you know what will happen? And I'll have my meal, but I'll take my bread and I'll get the sauce. Yeah. Stop off the sauce. Yeah. So you might have a sauce episode in like 15 and 16. And it helps the bread.

It helps the bread. It helps the bread. But all right, so we got, there was a lot that came out on this, it was an empire or whatever it was. They had this whole article with John Favro talking to, Oh, yeah. Empire. And he talked about Dan and Grogu

getting back together in Book of Boba Fett. And Favreau addressed them basically getting back together and what it meant for season three. And this is what Favro said. We couldn't just hit a hard reset. It's going to be interesting to see how this unfolds for people who may not have seen the Book of Boba Fett. But I think that the Book of Boba Fett offered time to pass.

You saw it, Mando was like, without Baby Yoda. And we saw it, Grogu was like, without the Mandalorian. And neither of them was doing too good. So them coming back together was a really good plot point that allows us to jump back into season three while still maintaining the central relationship. Speaking about balancing Groger's time with Luke against the go to reunite and what Din, Favro said, I think you have to service both things, not just because this kid has a potential and had training, does he belong away from the Mandalorian?

I saw it more like Paper Moon, where the whole thing is about delivering the kid to the blood relative, only to realize that whether genetically through her father or just through bonding, Tatum O'Neill has to end up with Ryan O'Neill. That ending just feels good to me. And this little kid is given a decision to choose, and the kid chooses the emotional relationship and wants to be with the Mandalorian passing up Yoda's lightsaber. Parts of you wants to see him develop in that way and part of the other. It's clear that Favro understands that the desire both Din and Groga remain together and to see

Groga expand his abilities. You have this interesting character who has Jedi training to some extent, forced abilities, but is also joining the Mandalorian culture, which we've established as something you can opt into. It demands a lot, it offers a lot. Historically, Mandalians develop all those tools. and armor and weapons and are able to counteract the force abilities of Jedi. So as a storyteller, this offers tremendous opportunity. This does answer a bunch, I mean, not answer a bunch of questions, but it starts for you to say,

because everybody's always asking, well, what the hell happens to Grogu during the new trilogy because all the Jedi are dead? Well, he's not officially a Jedi. Right. So he could be a Mandalorian at that time. Yeah. Running around the joint somewhere else. And he doesn't have to be alive.

He can still have force abilities. you know, there are other people out there with force abilities who aren't Jedi. Right. It's the religion that was gone. So you could get away with that, right? Sure. It's interesting reading that article because I saw that. And there are a lot of people that, and myself included, I was like, okay.

So basically he went with Luke for an episode. Now he's back with Mando. He kind of, the reunion of the two of them was kind of like, oh, okay. Maybe you want to see them apart more. But I wonder how much that has changed. Like was the original intent we're going to get Grogo, put him with Luke, and he's going to go off and be a gentleman. And then to see the audience and fan reaction to Grogu and like,

oh, man, we can't not keep these two together. They're the crux of Disney Plus Star Wars. They're like, they're everywhere now. So we've got to get them together. And do you think the exact thing, oh, you're going to do it at the end of Mando 3? No, no, no, no, no. You've got to get him back at the beginning. I'm sure.

I want to, because it just seems like Dinn and Bo and all them with Mandalor, that was going to be the story, and him becoming a Mandalorian again. Yeah. And now Grogo's kind of like tagged along. Yeah. I'm sure the story is a work. but it just seems like maybe at the end of it, season three, they were going to get back together.

And then you're like, the whole season, you're like, we can't, you got to get back together. Well, they kind of established it didn't was going to go off. I thought it was going to be this whole battle for Mandelora and him being like the top guy. And then, yeah, I think there was a note of, do we need them together? And, you know, do they want to risk maybe, you know,

whether they did their data research and do we want to risk not having people tune in? Because when you have everybody on board, kids, adults, everybody. it's scary to think, well, what if we lose a portion of that audience? And what they went through after season was like, we don't have no merchandise?

What do we do? I know. And now we got all those merchandise. Now you're going to take them apart? You're going to get mine. I know. And it's probably exactly what happened. You see,

you see the machinations of the higher ups of a studio going, you gave us this. We got to keep it together now. Yeah. Can you bring, is there a way to bring them back? Right. I probably thought of it,

you know, the idea that they have to do it. I do agree and think it makes sense, though, that you don't want to, to spend two episodes reuniting them in the Mandalorian. Yeah. Where you can, maybe, maybe Boba Fett was only, what was it, eight episodes? And then they made it, you know. Bobo was eight and seven, six, six, and seven were.

Right. Or five and six, whatever it was. You may be right. But it's two of those are focused on them and they're in three episodes. Yeah. So it's, yeah, and they needed them to, those are, and those were arguably the three best of that entire season. But it hurt the book of Bolefet.

because that's all people were talking about. Yeah. Right. It heard it. Yeah, because it wasn't. But you had to figure, all right, that's filming. Can it work?

Yeah, it can work. It was the most interesting stuff that they had done so far. It also showcased more of the, how good both Dave Filoni can be in live action and Bryce Dallas Howard can be in. And I think actually it did a service, a better service to them.

Like, because we all assumed Grogo would go and train with Luke and we're that jetty, but to then have him go, you know what? No, I don't want to be with those people. I want to be with you.

Yeah. Like choose that. That's great storytelling. I get it. what we is the norm. He's going to go train with Luke and this. You have these great Jedi montages. And he's like, no, I like this guy.

And I don't want to do this. And I think business wise for the show, like you said, that these two are established, you know, I think it does. I understand why they made the choice. I really do. I was hoping for Dinn to be on his own because I wanted to see. Because the thing was, here's the other thing that people don't realize.

In episode one, people were tuning into the Mandalorian, not knowing what was coming with. Sure. And you watched that first episode of the Mandalorian. You're locked in the whole time without Grogu. You're locked in that first scene in the canteen. That one where he gets Horatio Zanz. You're locked in from the beginning.

You're locked into it. It's just the problem is that you're spoiled with by the time you do get him. You're like, oh, that reveal at the end is the big, oh. And then they set up who he is and all that type of stuff. And then you're locked into him. But people were watching that show before they even knew Groo. Roga was in. And I just thought that you could have tried to do some standalone of Dinn. And especially now with, even though Patriot Pascal, for the most part, it's his voice more so than

anything else. But he's still, people are very recognizable that it's Pedro Pascall. And after coming off the success of Last of Us, you might have had a chance to run it solo. But if they came up with the story that makes it makes sense, then so be it. Yeah. Hey. You know. Well, we'll see. But you got, you know, the show is right around the corner. Are you Are we watching it? I haven't started yet. Are you going to?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to be all cut up. I did it for two and two came out. I did one. I'm going to do one and two and then the two episodes of fucking mobile fit. I'll probably try and knock out to a night.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Let's see. I want to go to this next story here. What are we got? All right.

So this is the next story here is Bob Eiger promises that Disney Plus is going to lean harder into Star Wars and other brands. Bob Iger. This is from Grant Davis. Now, Bob Iger says that he, well, he's been making the rounds talking about the future of Disney Plus, noting that it will become more reliant on established brands like Star Wars and Marvel and less likely reliant on original programming not tied to the company's core brands. In addition, Iger and Company have convinced Nelson Peltz to halt his aggressive advances to try to gain a seat on the board of directors, which could have potentially put the future

of Disney Plus at risk. Bob Iger recently spoke on CNBC about the changing approach. to streaming at Disney, despite making significant gains in a market that was previously dominated by Netflix, the overall growth of the service has slowed to bed in recent months, with the first ever quarterly sub-loss happening as a result of Disney ceasing their streaming deal with the Indian Premier League. Disney is currently at work on ways to reduce their overall debts, so an adjustment to the strategy is expected. Iger responded to queries about profitability and cost-cutting by explaining that the service,

excuse me, the streaming service has shifted from seeking subscriber growth to seeking cutting costs, and searching for optimal profitability. But he first wanted to note that Disney Plus has far surpassed company expectations by a substantial margin. Iger says the following. Well, I think that one of the things that happened was we got a little bit maybe intoxicated by our subgrowth. We said 60 to 90 million subs in five years. We blew through that. We blew through that in a year.

And suddenly everybody was on board with this meteor, I can't say the word. Meteoric. Thank you. Meteoric subrise. and then it would continue. And we leaned into that because it seemed like that was the primary metric that we'd be measured by. Now, we also said that the time we'd be profitable in five years, which is coincidentally the end of 2024. We reiterated that yesterday on the call, so now, as we've looked to basically become profitable and figure it out how to do what we do,

it's clear to us that we have to continue to grow subs. But it's not just about that. We have to have the right pricing. We have to have the right marketing. We have to have the right content. And if you go back to the structure that we've put into place, which is a direct linkage between the creative side and the distribution side, there is greater likelihood that we will have the right content.

They'll make choices because they're accountable for delivering that profitability. Now, Iger has deemed that the company's plans to continue overall growth to double down on the company's most successful brands, and this is what he said about that. This company possesses and has made some of the all-time great franchises. The five highest-grossing movies of all-time came from this company. Two of them are from Jim Cameron, Avatar, and obviously Marvel has contributed to that as well.

These are stories, I guess you'd call them, that are very valuable globally. They're leverageable across multiple business of ours and have a long life. You look at that movies that we've made years ago that are still performing extremely well on new platforms because they're evergreen in some form. So he also said that the plans for Disney Plus

might spell some bad news for those looking at the streaming service for general entertainment outside of those offerings. He said, I like general entertainment in the sense that there's a lot of quality there and we make a lot. The bear is a great example of that. The old man, what FX makes for us, what searchlight makes for us, just look at the Academy Awards. We want to curate that more aggressively. When I say that, that's primarily because in order for us to be more profitable and accompanying this business, we have to reduce our expenses.

So they're going to make hard choices. They're going to do some cuts and all that. But, you know, when they're talking about leaning on the big brands and talking about Star Wars and leaning on Star Wars and now, sure. I mean, I think that we knew that when he took over again for Chappick and he was making the move. But I don't think, I think they're going to, I think the series will say they're going to keep doing series, but they're going to do movies. But again, that has nothing to do with streaming. That part of it does. The series do, though.

Yeah, the series. Right. But they said they're going to lean into Star Wars. Like, if you're not leaning into Marvel and Star Wars, like that may it sounds like we're going to lean into what's like, like, you've been leaning into Marvel and Star Wars. We're getting to the point out of our fighties now out there going, we're going to push back. Right. We put too much stuff out there. We're pulling back.

that contradicts each other. Right. That's a fascinating contradiction. Well, I mean, Faggy just said this on the red carpet for Antman. So he's saying we're going to push forward with more. Right. Fike's going,

eh, we're going to give you less. I think that he's also making more of a point that it's more of the heavy focus are on the IPs as opposed to. Okay, so we say that, the IPs. But I can't think of a Disney Plus show that I watch that's not these IPs.

And that's what he's saying. But the difference is this. So they're pumping money into like, They're making things or other things that you just don't know about. Yeah. And they're making things that people aren't watching, even though they want to try it for original stuff. Yeah.

People aren't watching it. They're watching. You just hit the nail in the head. I guess so. Yeah. I couldn't tell you what they make. That's the point. Yeah.

And even that's not even, that's not an original. That's a Lucasfilm IP. Right. But so, yeah, it's this original stuff that they're making that they don't, they were going to focus in on heavy because they knew what brings in the subscribers. I think, you know, and it's so funny because when he talks about, we've had the five biggest movies of all time. I was like, well, you didn't.

You bought those properties and brought them in. Right. Well, Fox. I mean, well, Avatar, Fox's Avatar. And then Marvel was Marvel before Disney bought it, you know, the different companies. But Marvel, though, they had a lot of. Sure. Oh, I'm not.

I'm not saying it. But Avatar, you made a good point. Yeah. Yeah. You bought into that. Yeah. It's fascinating because, like, if I want Marvel or Star Wars, like, Disney, that's all that thinks.

Like, he mentioned the old man. Yeah. I think it's FX. Right. Like, or the bear or these shows. Hulu. These shows, they might want to sell Hulu. Yeah, these smaller shows.

That's not what I associate with Disney Plus. Right. So it's, it's, I mean, the world knows them as Marvel and Star Wars. I know. I mean, I say that, but I think there's people that, like, Disney is Disney for, Disney for a lot of people means different things. Like, the cartoons and the animation and this and that Pixar, you know, for me, it doesn't mean that stuff.

It means Marvel and Star Wars. It's weird. It's a weird thing. but I'm not the core audience for Disney. It's true. Do you know that Bob Iger, I mean, hey, Siri, how old is Bob Iger? I'm going to show you something, too. Bob Iger is 72 years old.

And how old are you think Bob Iger looks? Hold on. How old are you looking? 64, 65. He's 72. You know why? He's drinking athletic greens. I'll tell you that right now.

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We're talking about IGUR. Hold on. I head here in my context here. Yes. Who is that down there at the bottom? Let me give them a call right now? That's not, really. How do you know about Ira?

Well, because I work for Disney. I get the emails from the company. So would you steal his number? Well, Siri just puts it in my phone. Oh, well, you don't have... I got the company email from him when he took over. Very nice email. Okay.

He addressed everybody. You have his phone number, though. Well, it's in my serious contacts. That's his email. Well, on email him, get him on the phone right now? Can't say Siri, call Bob Eiger. Right now? I dare you.

I can't. Exactly. It's not for personal use like that. Come on, I can't just throw it on there flippingly. Don't be scared. All right, let's see there's any other stories that we should get into here before we get into the questions from the audience because there's a... It's a very interesting take so far just to see how different he is from Chepec.

Oh, as far as they're... Tremendous. Keeping people informed and... He's a leader and not leader. The difference between a manager and a leader. A hundred percent. I think there was something about the accolade I wanted to talk to by. There was.

There is something about the accolade. Let's get into that. There is. All right, here's a story about the accolite. Again, this comes from our friends over at Star Wars Newsnet. Le Jeung-Jay is shooting the accolite through April. says South Korean sets are more efficient. Leslie Headland's upcoming Star Wars Live Action Series

Accolet has been filming for a few months in the UK, and while lead actor Amanda Lest-Stenberg has talked before about their experience on set, we haven't heard much about the series male lead Squid Games Emmy-winning actor Lee Zhengze. In a new interview with League in Sports, Jungier was asked about his experience filming for the first Disney project. He explained how it will be filming in the UK for another couple of months,

adding, I was told not to talk about it as much as possible. It seems that filming will run until March or April. I actually felt that in some ways filming sets in Korea are actually more efficient. There are many aspects of the work, which are similar here, but I feel that there are areas where the Korean method is more efficient. Of course, there are aspects I'm still learning from as well. It's a good way to give compliments to your new job.

Jung Jays' comment on the schedule seems to line up with Daphne Keen, also saying that she'll be filming through April as well. initial reports on the production timeline asserted a November 22, May 2023 shoot, which could turn out to be the end of April or the show reserving a few extra weeks for additional filming. With the accolade set being not far from London is entirely possible that at least part of the cast will be part of Star Wars celebration, either inside a panel promoting the series or as guests signing autographs and taking pictures. Okay, well, if they don't have the accolite at celebration. Like, you're not going to be there, right?

I think Steph's giving coverage. Yeah. I would kill for you to be there and then not talk about it. I would have loved it. I wouldn't film the stage. I'd film your face. But wouldn't you be in the same boat? Of course.

It's just like, it's, there's no world where they don't have them. They just don't. They're there. They're down the block. And they're shooting already. Yeah. It's like they've got to. That would be, if they do a panel of upcoming stuff.

And this is the weird thing, though, by the way, because I'm going, one of the main reasons I can't go to Celebration. I'm going to a wedding on April 8th, which is that Saturday. Yeah. Right. Star Wars Celebration this year is that Friday, the 8th, the 9th. I think it's four days.

It's either, I think it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Okay. It's four days. So I would assume that they usually open up big on Friday. That's when all the big movie news usually comes out. And then they do like specific panels on like the, but I don't know. Maybe Saturday's going to be a big one. It's different.

Normally it was Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. but not this year. Yeah, which is weird. I wonder, but they're going to do, I mean, this could turn into more so over a conversation of Star Wars Celebration, right? Because we're what? Two months away, which is crazy.

That's crazy. It feels like we were just there. And that old lady was running me over in her ECV. That was the best. God, that was the best. Absolutely the funny story anyway. But anyway, we usually start this time, and we'll be kind of deep into Mandalorian,

so we might not cover it as much. Deep. But, yeah, but I think if we kind of speculate now, right, you're looking at, Mandalorian will still be on the air, so they're definitely going to do a Mandalorian panel. I'm sure. Do you think so?

Yeah, I already talked. I mean, we asked Katie. I think, we asked Katie when she was on the show. Yeah, from the horse's mouth. I said if she's going to be there. She said? She's going to be there. Okay.

So, I mean, that doesn't necessarily mean they're going to do a Mandalorian panel. It always seems these things, though, when, when the show is on the year, they're done with it as far as promoting it. Like Comic Con, if it happens, Comic Con, or the summer. Andrew was done. It was right about... But it wasn't out yet.

Right. Oh, you're saying? Once it's aired, once it's aired, yes. And I guess, and I guess Obi-Wan, Obe-1 aired that day. But that was still the... No, I know. It was before they shot.

So I do think that they, because only the other reason why is because minus, I mean, I would argue that the Mandalorian is the most popular Star Wars thing that they've done since, the prequels. Yeah. And I don't think anyone

could argue against that. I mean, I think some people would say that it would, there are people who love the new trilogy and would say, I mean, look,

I'm not going to tell you, I'm not going to tell you the Force Awakens was the most hyped and was the one that got the most, like, juice for, for sure. But as far as quality of Star Wars content, the Mandalorian has been everybody, like I love Andor,

Mandolin is still my favorite. And not everyone feels, there are a lot of people who love Andor, but there's not, but there are a lot of people who feel like, like, Mandalorian is way more of their Star Wars thing. Sure.

So I think it would actually be a disservice if they don't do a panel there, especially if the show is still airing by the time they do. Maybe even they might even do what they did, by the way, for us, for Obi-Wan, they might show the finale there if it lines up. Now, because they didn't do this in celebration, but in our celebration. Do they ever do like a Comic-Con where they're like, you've got your hall age, that's your massive stuff?

But also you got Ballroom 20, which is like the second biggest stuff. Like I could see them doing a Mando panel not on the big release. No chance it would ever do that. Because Mendolyn is the most popular thing. Like you could, the only reason they don't put people in those big. But there's nothing they could talk about like, hey, we've got this casting that we've,

but you've heard he might be on the show. And so joining the cast, this person coming out. Why wouldn't you do that in the big stage? And that's like, but why Mando's going to be airing already. So. Yeah, but they're going to want to talk about the season so far. There's no,

there's no way Mandalorian doesn't have a, mandolarian is absolutely going to have a main stage. for sure. Philonian and Favro will be there. Okay, so the panel we saw that was John Williams, Willow, andor, Osoka. Yeah. That was like a main... That was like their main, their mind thing. But remember like either an hour or two before or hours later, they had like the animation panel with... Yeah, yeah. I can see them doing that with Mando, where it's not part of the main package of, this is the biggest things ever. Do you want a bet again? So you lose another bet?

We're so, we're broke even on those guys. You never long, no. You have you shut your mouth. All I need to do is tell me that. movies are all I needed to do, but I didn't never made that steak, bitter bet. No, I didn't. People have sent you the footage. It never happened. I had the receipts.

You can show it to me. The audience will provide it to you. You never, anyway, so the bet that I would make is there is no way that the mandolaring is not on the main stage in the main panel. No way. That's your bet. Okay, so the man. It'll be on the main stage.

During the main panel was like the reveal of a movie slate, the reveal of a movie slate, the reveal of that. No, no, no, movies. No, I'm not. movies are if they do a full movie panel like Lucas films presents like the movies and they're not and they announce that they're going to do movies and TV on the same panel then yes then I would say that absolutely Mandalorian will be in there if they're going to do separate panels where they're just going to talk TV and they're just going to talk about movies yeah if they I don't know I don't know if I can make it what I will say is this last year the Mandalorian had its separate panel as well I don't think they're going to do both I don't think they're going to have both a separate Mandalorian panel. And they might. They very well might because, again, it's just too popular. But we'll find out the slates will start to come. What I will say is that the Acculite will be involved in the TV slate.

It has to. They will also involve Skeleton Crew because those are the ones. And Osoka, obviously. All those, I think you're going to get a full Osoka trailer. I don't think there's any Andor stuff. No. I mean, maybe if Andor is there, then it would be like, I don't know. Yeah, probably.

I mean. I could see them starting the panel off with some Mando stuff. Katie coming out and talk. You guys love them what you're seeing so far? Right. And then they go into Acolyte, Asoka, and Skeleton crew. The only reason why I think... They may be leave with the tease of Andor at the very end.

Right, because of season two, because they were announced like season two is coming. Because season two is supposed to come next year. So it's a possibility. They tease Andor. Maybe. Hey, we just cast so-and-so is this rule. The focus, yeah, the focus will be Mandalorian, Acoxioca, will be the heavy, I think it will be the heavy one.

Osoka might get its own panel, like the way the Mandalorian did. Okay. Because that's the next one out the gate after, after Mandalorian. I don't see why they just don't do a day of all exclusive panels, like each show gets a own panel. Because who knows?

Visions is going to get some stuff because they announced Season 2 in Visions. They'll probably announce some new animated series that they're going to do, whether it's Bad Batch Season 3, or if it's going to be another season of Tales of the Jedi, or whether it's going to be Tales of the Sith, which is where I think more people would prefer at this point.

Now, movies, they're going to announce that Lindelof movie. They're going to announce their plan. Now, I don't know how many movies they're going to announce, but they're going to announce it. You don't think they announce a Lindelof movie? Oh, my God, my hand to bet is like. On the Lindelof? You don't think they're going to announce a Lindelof?

That one I'll bet. I'll even bet. What are they announcing on it? I think they announce what it is. The plot? I don't know the necessary plot, maybe. But they're going to announce what it is saying, we were ready either we're going to start filming or we've got it won't be one of these things like yeah we hope that

it happens it's like it's going to it's going to either start filming or it has started shooting you don't think that you don't know if i can take that bet man bob iger is not going to mess around with they've got to get a star wars movie out at this point they have to and they have to announce it especially dc when he was talking about that thing to empire was that yeah he didn't mention movies not yet because i think they're holding it for star war celebration and i think lindulov will be there i think there'll be a movie announcement i think you'll definitely i think the Lindeloff thing will happen now. Do you think Kathleen's going to announce it?

Yeah. No, I think. I don't think I'll be there. No, I'd be there. You think so? Has he ever been to one? Yeah. Celebration?

Yeah, he's been a celebration. Oh, okay. He'll be there. I think he was, I think he was, I mean, you. But he'll let Kennedy talk. D23 is usually when he's the one making the announcements, obviously. Right. But maybe they bring him out.

Maybe they don't. I don't know. But, yeah, she'll be the one. I just still think it's a mistake for her to be the one coming out and doing all the announcement just because it just she is it's she is going to be the one there's no doubt but it just screams corporate when she's out there it doesn't feel like the second like you know favro and philone hit the stage you know it feels like i don't know if it just feels when like brys dallas howard was out there talking you're like yeah this is someone who's like really engaged in it

kathen can't she's reading enough to teleprompter she doesn't really give a shit about this stuff um so it just she's going to announce it everyone i feel the energy in it just they give respect and like okay great let's let's get to let's get to it because This is not, because what are you going to announce something that doesn't happen. But she will. She'll announce it. She'll talk about how great it was that she found. Lindel off and decided she wanted to do it.

And then, and then, yeah, I think that. Oh, I was going to say, Indie won't be out yet. Not by that point. Yeah, they won't be. No, any comes out in June. Did there be an indie panel? Because that great, no, you ask a great, stuff. I think there will be.

You're probably right. I think they will be. They did Indiana Jones last year. I know. He brought it. the music and everything. And it's like because he comes, Harrison Ford comes out. And we have Harrison Ford and bring him out.

I just think, and Indiana Jones is my number one most anticipated movie this year. Is it? Yes. It's my number one most anticipated movie this year. And that being said, I still don't think it should be a Star Wars celebration because it's called Star Wars Celebration. I agree 100%. And it was cool as hell to see that. And when Lucas, when they put that Willow thing out there, I was like, why the hell are we showing Willow right now?

You could be showing the Acolyte. Yeah. It's like, why are we showing that? And people go, well, they didn't have anything showed Ackleight. Tell us who's involved. Tell us something. Have Leslie Henland come out and talk about how she's so excited as a Star Wars fan to tell you some of this. And little it.

And don't give us anything, but give us something. Yeah. And it's like, as opposed to Willow, which like, you know when Willow should have been? Willow should have been and was at D23. That made sense because it was on Disney Plus. And it should have been. And I know because they've got celebration in D23. Yeah.

But like, I don't think. they did any Willow at Comic-Con. I think you should. But they also, but then the other argument people say is like, well, you know, because it's Lucasfilm, it's not called Lucasfilm celebration. It's called Star Wars Celebration. I'm an agreement on that.

It's like, it's the same way that if you did a Marvel thing and you started putting out Star Wars stuff of Marvel, well, it's a Disney thing. It's a Disney thing. I would doubt, I'm sure someone can prove me wrong in this. I don't think there was probably a single person that was dressed up as a character of anything that wasn't Star Wars.

You didn't see Iron Man walking around Star Wars celebration. You didn't see Willow walking around there. They're there for Star Wars. 99% of the people are there dressed as Star Wars. 99% are there for Star Wars. 100%. But Skeleton Crew, the question is this. Now, you don't even think they're going to announce one movie,

so we're not even on the same page there. I think that it is a pretty much guarantee they're going to announce the Lindelhoff movie. But I will tell you that here's the thing. The question is, do they announce a second movie if they ain't after first. Oh, sweet Christmas. Are you out of your mind?

I don't think they will. I think one is enough for them to do. I think it's a mistake. Unless they have a plan that are going to do a trilogy of movies. You think they're going to talk about one movie? Just. Lindel off. Yeah, because I think it's going to come out in 20, 25.

And I think they've got to get the ball rolling on it. And I'll tell you why I don't think that. Okay. Because pre this, we were gung-hole-on-Tikas Star Wars movie pre-Celibration this year. That's only because she said it was coming out of the end of 2022. Right. So they didn't say a damn thing about it.

We're like, and this is before Love and Thunder, I think dropped. That movie's dead. The minute, and I hate to say this, but the minute Love and Thunder did what it did. Yeah. That movie was, it might have been on the fence. Like, we got to work this, that's like, the minute that movie came out,

did what it did. And I know it made like $800 million. No, I know, but it was the fans of the reaction and the product. Yeah. They're like, no, we're done. And I think it was even less than that. I think that it's, he's too busy. Yeah.

I think that's, I think Thor, Love and Thunder was a reflection of how busy he is. He's got too much going on. I also think you guys. You've got such a good style. Yeah. I love his style. I love his work. But when you go too far, you get with Love and Thunder, but also does, that, his style doesn't

fit his character does. What about Mandalorian? But the character was in there and it fit in there. And the Mandalorian, you were under very strict guidelines. Well, that's what that's, you got a tunnel. You can't go and take a different road during this tunnel. You're saying two different things, though. If you're talking about someone's style, someone's style with someone else's script could

work very well. and it did in Mandalorian. He did with the... The last one of the season one. Was it the one where they were the heist on board the ship? Well, you know, the end when... Yeah, no, no, no. The last episode, the finale with IG-11,

when he sacrifices himself and all that. Like, that was a fantastic episode with Mof Gideon and all that and Dins showing. But it doesn't feel like a Tyco episode, it doesn't feel like, oh, that's Tyco with TIE. If you watch that conversation with the two Stormtroopers up top, it totally feels like a Tyco thing. Now, there's a five thing that doesn't work. But here's the difference, though. Ragnarok, I loved.

Yeah. Thor Ragnarok was written by somebody else to which he collaborated with. Thor Love and Thunder was written by him. Okay. There you go. That's the problem. Sure. Not that he's not a good writer.

He's a very funny dude. He's a hell of ladies. But it became, as you said, it just became a tight, it was the thing. And I mentioned it a million times over that it scared the hell out of me. And rightfully so. When I was sitting in that audience watching the interviews and they had Kevin Feigy on there and they asked him, well, you know,

Normally with the Winter Soldier was like a crime. It was like a born identity type thing. And then you had Antman, which was a crime heist. And his other movie, Spider-Man was a John Hughes type film. What's this one? And he goes, well, this is a Tycho, a Titi movie. And I went, oh, no. Oh, no.

I'm like, that's the answer. Because that's not a genre. That's not a genre. That's just letting him do whatever he wants to do. I'm like, we're, I don't know what that happened. I'm like, we're in trouble. I remember, I think it might have been during last Star Wars celebration, We had gotten word, and we heard it's like, yeah, this movie, it comes out soon.

They don't even have an ending yet. And that was back in like April. Right, right, right, right. We were like, you had heard. Yep. We, you know, we always hear stuff like that. Yeah, we were at celebration. We heard that. But it was.

But it was like, I don't remember who it was. They told us that. I remember, yeah. They don't have an ending yet. Right. And it comes out like a month. Right. They still don't have an ending.

They didn't know what they were doing. So it's like, it should. But they're like, give them the benefit of the doubt. But all of that also plays into what we're talking about. And that's the fact that you can't risk doing that with Star Wars right now. No. Because the last thing you're coming off of is a movie in 2019 in a movie that is not very well received by people in Rises Skywalker, right? You've got to come out with something that people are going to get excited with.

Now, is Damon Lindelof's movie the one? I don't know. But I think that it, depending on what it is and what they know, I think they announce, I do think they announce what it is. What the full plot is? I don't know. But I think they're going to announce what it is that it's coming out in 2025. All right.

I don't think they mentioned the Taika Watiti thing. I don't think they mention the Patty Jenkins thing because I don't think either one of those I don't think either one of those things is happening. I think that they announce either the guarantee of Lindelof's movie as its own or the plan of the movies that are going to be happening in this new playground

that's happening inside of the films. If they do that, this is the very last time that Kathleen Kennedy can ever announce movies coming out and then not all coming out. She cannot do that ever again. Like she's done it so many, times that it's a joke to where it's like...

So then what makes this the last time for her? Bob Beiger going, this is the last time. Like, this is the last time you can do this. Like, you can't do this anymore. You just can't. You can't. I mean, this is, it's a joke. So you know, what other studio does that? It happens sometimes. I mean, it happened with Marvel. When they're... Happened with DC. It happens.

But Star Wars is a joke. It's like, hey, Patty Jenkins is getting a movie. Just kidding. Tike's getting a movie. Ah, we're just kidding around. Hey, Lord Miller on it. Hey, they left. Uh, Carlton, Colin Chavaro. He's on the movie. He's gone to. You remember that guy, Gareth Edwards? He didn't really direct that movie. Well, yeah, I don't know. Oh, yeah, we're going to get the Game of Thrones guys.

Oh, they're gone as well. It just keeps happening. I'm not saying no. It just can't happen again. I just, it's the flagship, and I get that. A movie, we talk about the difference between a movie in a TV series where the TV series, they can let Tony Gilroy go off to Angla.

I was like, okay, yeah, go make this movie about Andrew? Right, right. Okay, we're not going to be, there too much. you've got the lead film of a studio that's a tent pole. You're like, you've got every eye on that. I know. There's too many. Well, that's the whole point of the,

and the other thing with Gilroy, the Gilroy thing is this, that the difference of the, like, too many cooks in the kitchen is that there are some cooks that if you try to come into their kitchen, they're going to kick you in the ass until you get out of the kitchen. That's Tony Gilroy, right? And it's also, you're not wrong, that there's a significant difference with television.

Sure. And with movies, because movies, With TV, I make this point about Andor all the time. Andor has so much critically the same people like, oh, I didn't do as well. How do you know that? People are still watching it now. Yeah. Because that's how you, that's the metrics on streaming.

Movies, if it doesn't do well in those couple opening weekends, you're done. You're done. And you get two weekends. You're done. It might do well on Disney Plus, maybe, who knows? But it's done. And that's how you got to get your money back. So that's why there's all this panic.

And unless you get somebody like a James Cameron or somebody who's going to go, get out. Yeah. You're going to get people. You get Gareth Edwards. You're cooked. You're Gareth Edwards. What are you going to do? And it sucks to think about it, but it's all part of it.

I'm like, no one's out there clamoring for a drum player from and or action figure. Right. But the movies. That's a whole other industry that fuels Disney. It does. And you've got to have those eyes on those movies and the merchandise. And it's like it's massive. But you know what I can see happening?

Let's say they don't do a trilogy. Let's say we're going to take the best stories and make movies out of them. That's what it is. And there's some smaller known director that's got an idea. They're like, oh, that's about $100 million will give it to go make that. And they leave him alone because it's not tied to Skywalk. It's not tied to this or that. And they leave alone.

They won't. I know they won't, but they did. And that movie comes out, that's the Star Wars that's going to be phenomenal. Because it's going to be the and or of the movies. Well, what I hope happens is that whoever is, whether it's Linda Laugh or whoever does, takes notes and looks at the stuff that was successful with the Mandalorian, and looks stuff that was successful with Andor and says, well, how do we do that on film?

Like, what I think was the major mistake by J.J. Abrams. J.J. Abrams, didn't make... J.J. Abrams made J.J. Abrams' version of Star Wars. His love letter to Star Wars. Yeah, and he made, like, he didn't. People say this that it's a bad thing to say, but I think it is about, like, all, and Ryan Johnson included, they both made fan films.

They both made their version of fan films. And I think that what, and I overused a quote by Favreau. overuse it because I just think it's so relevant. And he never used those two guys as examples, but I use them examples where Favreau said, we're not making an homage to Star Wars. We're making an homage to the things that inspired Star Wars. And that's how you got to do it. You got to do the stuff that, I mean, and Andrew didn't necessarily do that, but what they did

do is they made homage to past spy thrillers and past other things that played into things that have made other spy genres pretty well. Thinking about what you just said, it's amazing to me how, and maybe because he did have such a love for Star Wars Abrams, but like his Trek, yeah, was fantastic.

I loved it. And I know there's a lot of people that die hard Trekkees that didn't like as much. But what it did was, it opened it up to the major audience. It didn't make it this niche thing. Agreed. I agree with totally.

And he said, he's like, I'm not a Trek guy. I'm not, Star Wars guy. Right. So it allowed him that free rate, like kind of with Gilroy. Like,

I'm going to play in this universe. I'm going to do this universe. I'm going to do different things. Oh, your ships, they move slow because they're naval battleships. No, that's how they're going, these things are going to move fast. Right. And I remember seeing that for the first time, and I love Trek. But I'm going, why has no one ever thought about this?

This is incredible. That was incredible. That was good. I thought that first Star Trek was probably out of all the movies he did, including Force of Ways. I think that was his best one, the first Star Trek, 2000. I, I love Mission and Possible more three, but I'm not of the two space movies. Oh, yeah, yeah, or not two space movies.

Easily. Easily. Yeah, he did the second one, didn't he? He did two and two. He did two and two. Oh, it's easily his best one. Yeah. Easily.

Yeah. Are you sure? Did he do the second one or did, or did, uh... He directed... I was there. I mean, you were there. I worked on that movie. I'm in that movie.

Are you really? In the darkness. I'm a Starfleet officer. Are you really? Yes, sir. You're out of here. I didn't know that. Yeah.

I'm going to have to put a picture up. I don't know. What's it? Start a trick into darkness. Into darkness. I actually like that one. I don't know. I like it.

I like that. Look at you. That's not it, right? That's not me. That's not me from the fucking... That's not you? That's, I'm a SWAT officer. That's a movie I did.

What's that movie? It's a what movie I did called Athena. Oh, okay. I don't know if you ever have pictures of me. There's a scene of me in there. Who's that? What's that? What's that one from?

Look at this. It's Young and the Restless. It's from Taken. There's a lot of stuff in here, guys. You know, look at my... That's a terrible cutout. That's a Shmodon cut out. That's a shmodon cut out of me.

Terrible. Look at that. Okay. But no, I remember, because I remember on that set, at the time, he was being called Khan everywhere. There was no hiding. Right, right, right. They were calling him Harrison on set. He was like, Khan, Khan, Khan, Khan.

Right, right, right. I'll tell you this, too. I took a, what? Okay, no. I'll take a leak. I took a leak with one of the guys. I'm there and comes up next to me at the urinal. It doesn't wash his hands.

I can tell you who. Yeah. I don't want to ruin it. Didn't wash his hands, one of the actors, big time actor. They're not going to happen anymore. I'm taking a leak. I look over. You know, this and that we're talking.

And, you know, he gets up and think, think, think, think. Out he goes. He can wash his hands. Yeah, it's my favorite George Carlin bit, though. I don't wash my hands after I pee. You know when I wash them? After I shit on them. It's the best.

God, Corlin was the best. He was the best. Anyway, so there's a lot of stuff coming out at celebration. I think that we even scratched the surface, to be honest. I hope that they announced new TV shows. I think the addition of the movie. You're not going to be there when they don't announce it, and I can't see your face. Well, you're not going to be there either.

I know. But I can imagine. You'd be here with me. Watching it from the back. Anyway, so what do you guys think? You think that we're even close to right here? Do you think they're going to announce that Lindeloff thing? I'm so curious to hear what you think inside of the comments

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I ask you guys, this was just the computer. Computity? What is with you in talking today? My brain is fried because my daughter has been waking up at like 5, 15 in the morning and waking up. Because she's a 5-year-old child. And yesterday was Valentine's Day. Oh, boy. Yeah, exactly.

So let's see. Let's get to, here are the questions from you guys. Thank you guys so much for submitting them. We're excited that you did. And here are some of the questions now. First one. This comes in from Brian Goins. What movie information will we get from a celebration?

Once again, I think that for... I think Lindel off for sure. So just to clarify, you don't think any movie news at all? What do you say? I'm not a gambling, man. We don't have to bet on this. Do you think that they're going to, you don't think they're going to announce any movie stuff in April?

When do you think they're going to announce it? I'm so curious to what you think about this. Okay, so I was going to ask you this before the last time we were on this. What has, has Lindeloff been on a stage talking Star Wars yet? Not yet. No. D23, he wasn't there? No.

Wasn't Comic Con. No. And it was announced, is he talked about it. I think briefly. Is he in interviews like, yeah, I think briefly. It hasn't, it's not like this super thing we don't even know if he's doing it. I just don't think you announce a movie if you can't talk about it in depth. I think that, and.

And being it's the only one. If you had the panel, this is the Star Wars, the future of Star Wars films, that was the title of this thing. That's what I think it's going to be. And you had Lidlough kicking it off and this will lead us into so-and-so film. But I don't think they're that far along. Here's what I'd like them. You don't, so you say now. I'll take a stupid layman's bet, and I'll say, I don't think, I don't think

Lindel off's at celebration. Okay. I think you're wrong on that one, but I, but I understand that, I understand why you're hesitant about it because it's like, in the past, it's a kerfuffle. 100% I understand where you're coming from, for sure. I just, what, the, what I learned about the, the Lucasfilm decision making at celebration is, if you expect them to do, like, for some reason, they, they think they're like this little small independent company.

They're not. No, they're not. They're not. Biggest clubbodies of the planet. They are. And they have a small kind of staff and they have a small thing and everything to for sure. But they're but they're Lucasfilm, right? And they could and they could do so much more than I think that they do.

And even when I knew people who worked in the celebration stuff and you'd be surprised how small the crew is that runs in comparison to other things that run celebration. Yeah. That they're running like chickens without their heads because it's like they're a small crew. And what they should do in a situation like that in like they should do what you're talking about like announce like a major major slate with some big things and go falls out, know what you're going to do and have like an imagine that came out and said we've got so and so doing this but really have it locked in to start shooting. Yeah. They're too hesitant to try to do it. They're going to, I don't know. Like if Fagie does it and what Gunn and Stafford just did.

Right. This is what we're doing. But they're not, but not they're they don't have the confidence yet. I'm saying. So I don't think there's... Imagine Gunn and Safra gets those pressed together. It's a small thing.

It's like, we've got Superman's legacy coming out. It's going to be the story of Superman's start. Right. See ya, guys. They ain't going to do that with Lindelof. Like, it's going to be my movie and it's going to be told in this region.

Can no one's cast? You know, a start date? I don't see. Got to go. So you want to see you. And he's only writing it too. He's not even directing it. I think the director comes out with him.

You think an announcement? You think the announcing a director happens They already have the director. The director. So they have their, but I'm saying, no, we don't know who it is. Yeah, we do. And it is the director of Ms. Marvel, Charmine, Obed Sinoi, is directing. You're good with names.

Thank you. I've noticed that on the show. You're good names. So she's going to be, she's going to be directing, and I think they bring out. That was back in October they announced that? Yeah, I think they bring out Charmine. Okay. They didn't announce it, but this is an exclusive that Justin Kroll had.

It was an exclusive, so nothing has been announced on Disney side. I think it's been confirmed now by them since. Yes. Or is this one of those things where like Mary Elizabeth Winstead has been scooped in the show, but we're not talking. But that's never talking. Lindeloff and I think, and she's,

they've both spoken on it. Okay. I'm pretty sure. All right. So then maybe that that hedges towards, yeah, they might say. I didn't think you had a director of cash.

Okay. That's my bad. I think that they both come out. I think they tell you what the movie is and there's the rumor. Like, I'll tell you this. If I don't think she is, but the rumor is that Daisy Ridley is in this movie.

Right? That's the rumor. If Daisy Ridley is in this movie, then she's there. Of course. And they bring her out because that'll be one of the biggest. And I'll say this. Because it's celebration,

it's like, it's like Comic Con. Everyone won't go nuts. Everyone will go nuts. Outside of that. It's a weird. I think there will be people, I don't think that Daisy Ridley, out of all the people who complain about Starry,

there are certainly people who do. I think Daisy Ridley is the one who's complained about the least. You don't think with a whole that Mary Sue crap and all that. I didn't say she wasn't complained about. I said the least. I think that, I mean... Well, I think Finn got it the most.

Finn got it the most. Oh, yeah. Rose. I'm talking like the leads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Finn and then... Rose, that poor actors. You could do with or without Po.

I mean, I love Oscar Isaac, but the character himself wasn't even really do much. And they didn't... The character... I think all of the actors got screwed because the characters... The characters... It was this. They were just so inconsistent from all of that.

From all three movies. And that's not the actor's fault. They weren't actors of stature. You know what? This is my character and doesn't do this. At all. That's why I think, same reason, like, you know. I don't mean actors of stature.

I know what you mean. Daisy Ridley, if she is in this movie, she's announced, and she comes out and we find out what she is. If she's not in the movie, then, you know, you maybe announce who is, who is going to be. All right. All right. So next one.

User W. W.I.6U.1 was like a droid. Lucasfilm put out a recap of Mando's season one and season two. And Bob, if it had to help people get to speed before Mando Season 3. Do you think they'll attach just the beginning of episode 1? I didn't see that, but it makes sense.

It depends on how long it is. I think that they should do that. I think that they absolutely should have a recap to... You can make a half-hour episode on that thing. A recap. It would be great. Well, you know, it was so weird. When we saw that Bob,

the Obi-Wan thing at Celebration, episode one of Obi-Wan has like this great preview, prequel of all the stuff that led up to it, they show you scenes from, yeah, it wasn't in that screening. They didn't show that in that screen. When we saw our screen. Which I thought was weird because they were probably like,

these people know exactly what's going on. They don't need a recap. I don't know. The effect of it was really, it had a good effect to start it up. I thought it was a mistake not to show that, but then they showed it on episode one of, oh, we want to work really well.

So I think it is crucial to show that, to show people who don't assume, and I think Favre knows it, don't assume that everyone has seen Book of, Boba Fett. Don't assume that. Like, assume that your fans. And it's important. It's super important. It's very important because if you watch at Mando and you go to Mando 3, you're going to be lost. If you just watch Mandelorian, that's all you watch and you haven't watched a frame of anything

else because you don't give a crap. You have to. So I think that's why it was a disservice to, you know, I know people like, well, they're even saying that Book of Bofet is Mando 2.5. I was like, some people are just like BobaFat and they're going to, I didn't see Bobafat and watch it. Right. Oh, what's going on? What did he get him back? Right. You got it. You have to do something. All right. Let's see. Noah Parks. 775.

Noah Sparks. If they make movies post Rise of Skywalker, which I believe is their plan, what who will be their threat to peace? The first order is gone, and I feel like it'd be kind of redundant if they did remnants of that because that's what's happening in the Mandalorian just with the empire. It has to be something new and fresh. I could not agree with you more. They cannot do another empire.

They cannot do another thing where it's like, oh. First order, final. order, last order. They can't do a rehash of the sand crap. Yeah. What they could do is show the politics within and the way that things, what I thought they were going to do with what happens in the kind of the books and everything to and it shows you the history of politics. I look at it after World War II. After we won the big war in World War II and it didn't come back to America and everything was great in America now. It was like, no, people got in power in America afterwards and

things happened and then he settled and they fought within each other and all this stuff happened within and you got the stuff that happened in the 60s, 50s, and the 60s. And the same type of thing I thought was going to happen in the new trilogy. We're in the books it happens where the new government started to fight within themselves. And you can have enemies within who you thought originally were the good guys of the, whatever this new, you know, maybe within the resistance, the new government start to fight within each other. And there's whatever the political battles are.

Plus, what did Ray do? This is where I think Ray could fit in. did Ray finally build out that Jedi order? And if it takes place five or ten years later, you can have a bunch of Jedi. She went out and she found those people that were force-sensitive, and she's training them, and then you do have Jedi, and you do have, you could always have the Jedi and Sith type thing. It doesn't have to be Sith.

It could be somebody who's going out to fight and study the dark arts and all that. So there's a lot that you can do that, but it should not be stormtroopers or anything that looks like stormtroopers or any of that crap. And what exactly? Do we know, I mean, everyone knows. The High Republic. Yeah. What is that exact time frame?

That's before, way before the... So we're looking at this, you know, what if it's, because you can't do, because, like, how many times we're going to do a rebellion? And, you know, but what if you did, you know, the rebuilding of the Republic back the way it was? Right. And the rebuilding of the Jedi.

But what if there's that conflict of the Republic's, like, we saw what happened with the Jedi when they turned bad. Like, we don't want Jedi anymore. Right. This is not the way. And the Jedi are like, no, this is how it's always been. We just got corrupt. and this and that.

Like, that's, being on both sides are good with the conflict. And in those good, they arrive. And villains starts out here because who are think they are doing the right thing

and it's not just clear-cut evil, right? And it's like, yeah, I would love to see. That's a great story-telling. I mean, with Ray leading a rise of Jedi,

who wants to bring them back to old school. She doesn't have to be the lead, though. She could just be like, she could be the Obi-Wan. And just someone in the back and kind of helping when she could help and learning this and like,

you can, and if you can get cameos from, from Finn and Poe and throughout. Fine, but don't focus on them. Focus on other things. Is, I mean, get this, is Mom Watham's still alive? At that point, I mean. Do we ever know what she dies?

Is it like a canon or a book or something? Anything that's not in the TV or movies. We've never seen her die in movies or TV. Anything in TV or movies, I don't take seriously anymore because they can, I think that they can negate it. That to me is such a great character that could then bring forward at this point. Maybe, yeah. She retired, though.

That was in the novels. She retired. She gave up doing it. And she also put down, like, weapons and all this kind of stuff. So I see her as being a figurehead to bring back. Yeah, of course. I mean, I don't know if she was on that, on, um, Hosni and Prime. I'm sure, but we never saw.

We never saw. We never saw it. We never saw it for sure. Either Genevieve or Riley or anything like that. I don't know. So maybe. That to me is a figurehead you bring back. You could.

But, you know, either way, it's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting for sure. So we'll, we'll find that out. We'll do a couple more here. and we'll call it a day. All right. Jacob Fleck, let's see. Who was an actor or actress who has appeared in a Star Wars movie or show before?

You'd like to see Return as a new character, similar to Andy Circus. I mean, if they were going to do something as like an alien or something, you know, we wouldn't be recognizable as far as the same character. They can't be recognizable. I think that's the thing. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, Ashley Eckstein would be interesting to come in and do some stuff. played voiced Osoka for a long time.

I like to see her to do. Sam Whitwer. There's someone for sure that I'd like to see do something else. So an actor that's in Star Wars brought back into something else. You do something else.

I mean, Sam Whitwer's played, he's voiced the Emperor, he's voiced Darth Mall. You know, he's obviously Star Killer, so I'd like to see him. And Vanessa Marshall, who voiced Tara. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't think I have anyone. Okay. Thanks for playing along, Mike. I mean, I would have said, Alden-Hryke. Yeah. That guy, another shit.

Give him a little redemption in Star Wars. James Rell, 59, 63. How likely is it that we get a Star Wars crossover event, given that Kathleen Kennedy touched on it a few years ago during the Investor's call, but given that so much time has passed, would have still been the plans? So my hope is that it's very much in the plans because here's why. Cross over with what?

So when she mentioned it, remember that big event that you and I covered for Star Wars Operation 2020 when they did that big investors thing? And they announced all these shows and everything too. And that's when she announced. She announced the Rangers of the New Republic. That was one of my, that was my favorite thing that they announced. And so when they announced that, watch that, I watched it recently because someone sent it to me. And I think it was Miguel Fernandez who sent it to me.

And I watched it again. She's clearly reading right off the teleprompter and doesn't know what the hell she means when she's like, it's a crossover event. So they told me that it was going to be, I don't know. I trust in Dave and whatever, but it's a crossover event. And that crossover event, I think, is still on the table. But I think instead of Rangers, I think it's, um, skill. I think that they just sacrificed, they just turned. But cross over with what?

Filoni and Favro are working on their own universe, which is Mandalorian, skeleton crew, Asoka, and Boba Fett, right? That's that is there. That's where they play. They play in there. I think that Thrawn is going to be like the big villain, and Thrawn is going to play. That's why I think that there was this major moment in Book of Boba Fet when Luke looks at Assoc and says, am I going to see you again?

She goes, maybe. I think they definitely see each other, and I think it's about as close to the Timothy's on air to the empire novels that we get. I think we get a big crossover movie that comes out, that kind of wraps up all of this stuff, that it's going to be a big kind of, you know, air to the empire type movie. At least that's my major hope,

but that's what I kind of gathered from her. I don't think it's, I don't think it's not going to happen because I think that, I think that was a Flonny Favro direction that they want to go in. And I think that's the Marvel part of Favro's brain also, going, let's do this this way. Okay. You don't think so?

Well, we talked about this and my thoughts on that. Like, I view Star Wars as a connective universe already, and you would explain, like, you want this to kind of, I understand that point, but I'm just like. It's all connected in one way or connected. It's all connected in one way or another, but you can't say that even though in history, sure, and or is connected to Mandalorian in some way from the history of the events, sure. But as the fact, the way that they're airing, those two things are not connected.

You know what I mean? Right. Like they're not, like you can significantly tell it. These are two different people that are making these shows. Yeah. And Mandalorian plays in the same realm

that Osok will and the same one that Boba Fett and the same one. That's why you look at the crossover the connected universe, Dinn showing up in Bobafet. Yeah. Dinn ain't showing up in Andor. Yeah, right.

And I know it's a different time period, but you know what I'm saying. Right. Yeah, I get you. Like the characters in Philonia and Favros universe could show up in each other's universes. Right.

And I think that's, that's what's going to happen in this crossover event. I do think it happens. I just wonder when. And maybe, look, shit, maybe they announced that at a celebration. Maybe they finally kind of go back into that. We'll see. Okay.

And we'll see. All right. Last one. This is the very last question. I'm going to get out of here. What do we got? This is Mason McLean. Do you think Mando will lose or win the inevitable fight with Boca tan using the

Dark Sabre? And do you think they will set up Asoka and Thrawn at the end of Mandalorian season three. So two great questions. I do think they're going to set up Asoka thing. I think that Sabine will actually show up in this. I think you have to, because you look at her history with Bo and the Mandalorian, the Dark Sabre and all that,

I think Sabine will be introduced and then carry over into Asoka. I think we'll get a little bit of that tease, the same way they tease, the Bobafet thing. As far as the fight, I don't know, I think that... When you have to defeat someone to take the Dark Sabre from them,

do you have to kill them or just be defeated? He just to defeat him, because he didn't kill them. He didn't kill, um, right, he didn't kill, what's his, Mouth Gideon. Oh, Month Gideon. Yeah, he, he just beat him in battle. So, um, yeah, she defeats him. Yeah.

You think so? Yeah. And takes it back again? Yeah. You think she dies? Yeah. You've been said information probably. I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not betting.

I'm not betting. She was in here for two hours with you. Shut your mouth. She doesn't tell me. Shut your mouth. She doesn't tell me Didley Squad. First of all, I wouldn't want her to because I wouldn't want to get in trouble. But like, but she, but she doesn't tell me anything about that.

stuff. I don't think she dies. Why would they kill her? I think it would be a big mistake if they killed her. I don't think they kill her. I would rather, I would rather her, I would like to see her her get a spin-off series for selfish reasons as well. But like how let's say, what do they call? What are they called the owl pack or whatever they call? The night watch. Yeah. Yeah, you can do a whole bunch I love to see it. All right. We got a lot that we covered here today. What do you guys think? I guess the biggest question is what are they going to announce a Star Wars celebration? That'll be the title of the episode. What will they announce? What do you think they're going to announce? Tell me about the movies.

Tell me about the TV shows. Tell me about anything that you want to see. Get a conversation going here today. We want to hear from you. All right, for myself and Mike Kalanowski, I want to thank you guys so much. Make sure, once again, I told you about Spotify. Very, very important. We're trying to get back into the rankings there, and we need you guys to help us out.

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