The Kristian Harloff Show - WILL SPIDERMAN AND VENOM be in the next MCU film? | Capes and Cowls | Marvel

Episode Date: November 18, 2022

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There's a lot of stuff going on. There's some Spider-Man news. Is that freshman year thing? Is that going to even happen? There's some rumors that it isn't. I don't know, man. Speaking about rumors, there's a rumor that Echo is having problems. Is that true?

Is that false? I don't know. We'll talk about that as well. Speaking about problems. About Black Adam. said it was going to make a lot of money. It barely broke even or barely will break even. We'll talk about that.

Will there be a sequel? We talked about that yesterday on the big thing. And other things we talked about on the big thing, it's transitions. It's Segway City over here. We talked about Black Panther in the box office that it had, but one of the things we didn't talk about was Black Panther is going to be a little later on Disney Plus and the Wakanda forever.

It's going to be quite a while before we see it. Why is that? we will also talk about some ghost writer stuff we'll talk about um the blade so directors coming in for that the batman news we're going to touch on it briefly because we talked about it pretty heavily on big thing yesterday but i want to get the guys thoughts on the batman thing amy adams out there talking about whether or not we're going to see lowest lane um and then boom that's right boom's got a like maybe one of the best comics so far maybe one of the best um and we'll talk about that in a little bit But it's myself, it's Winston, it's Koi.

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And says, hey guys, I'm sorry I'm going to be like, I ate a little bit of trap I'm going to be like six minutes late I'm so sorry So not to be out done Coy You know, it's so funny Right before Coy text me, I said, holy crap

Coy's actually going to be early to it I said, I'm going to sit here, I mean, what am I going to say to Coy when he walks out? I'm probably going to give him a little crap for not calling me back But the other day when I called him But I'm going to call, I'm going to talk to Coy for little bit. I haven't talked to Coyne a little bit. I'm usually always hanging out at Winston, and I'll talk to Coy within seconds. I get a text that says, hey guys, I'm about four hours out.

So, so Winston's text is at 11 in the dock, because he's a professional, he's a gentleman, he's a good person. So that's the, it was 10 minutes before. Was it before? Oh, it was before? Okay, so that's what I realized how late I was, because when I saw his text, I was like, oh, I'm so far away. Like, I'm like 48 minutes away. Be honest with, did you forget you were doing the show today? No, I didn't. So what happened was my car broke down last week, as you guys know. And I told them I needed it by Thursday.

So I'm at the shop all the way in Burbank. So I'm further out. So you did the smart move and booked an appointment to like 10, 15. Nine. But my brain went, I need 40 minutes to get to you. I didn't add the Burbank time. So the issue was I had to get to my place and then to you. So it added that time, which I didn't account for.

So by the time he texted me, I was like, this isn't even close. Like I don't even, I don't even see the horizon. Like there's not even a. Winston's like a pitcher getting ready to throw a fastball. And I deserve it. I deserve it. Bitch, I have a job. I have a job.

This is his job. This is his job. I have a job. I intentionally told them when they scheduled me. I said an hour should be enough time. I will be there at one o'clock. They said, bet we'll see you at one. This is week one of my job.

My favorite is this. At the end, Winston's looking at his phone. like, this guy better get here, sure. And then he goes, you know what? I'm just going to let him know that I'm running late. I'm running late. What a nice thing to say. You were not running.

I mean, I started this with I know Winston's character, and I understand it, and I appreciate it, and it's true. I don't think I've ever been more embarrassed by looking at my phone and being like, no, it's just not happening. That's just like, and I tried and I got as quick as I could, but I knew. You're disheveled mess. I came in. Yeah, I literally came in like, Pramer.

Let me see your shirt. Let me see your shirt. Look at that. It looks good. You're right in front of the microphone. You're doing great. Oh, there we go.

There we got there. It looks really good. I love this shirt. And the color's great. It looks great. Yeah. I love it. So you guys can get that, by the way.

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Also, if you want to know the caliber of my friends, when I walked in, they respectfully understood that I was almost an hour late and didn't start there. They started with, hey, Corey, I made you some coffee because they knew.

They knew what I'd be. We knew what you was going to have. I came in like Kramer. But we're in there. We're making it work. We got it. And there's a lot, I mean, there's a lot going on. I'll call your boss.

I'll tell him I'm sorry. I know. There's a lot going on right now. I get fire. We've won us, I swear to God, boy. But let's, let's start with,

I want to go with the first story. It's actually this one that I saw, I had actually, and I'll tell you what, I heard something like this a little while ago. Not this one. Where is she? I have it.

I can't read any more. more guys. Is that go at the top one? Is that what you're looking for? Gotcha. So Echo, I had heard this from somebody and I, and I reached out to somebody and I said, hey, I'm hearing this and they said, this is not true. So don't, so, you know, we'd rather you not say anything. Okay, that's fine. And I don't, I, to be honest, I wouldn't have said anything anyway because it's not really something, I got something someone called me about yesterday that I'm like, that's not what I do. But thank you so much. But this one, I was like, okay, it's interesting to hear. and then here we go.

This is the report. Have you heard this yet, Koi? What's funny is I'm wondering if you and I are in the same timeline because I heard things about three weeks ago. It was about that time. And then about a week ago, I heard it wasn't true. Nah, about like 10 days ago. I heard it wasn't true, but a week and a half ago.

And then this popped up like five days ago, three days ago. This popped up today. Oh, okay. So it was already disavowed to me. Like I heard it and then it went away and now it's back. Now it's back. So what the hell are we talking about? For people listening on audio, Echo,

is the new spinoff Hawkeye show, new Marvel series. So this is from comicbook movie.com who says a troubling update from Marvel Studios Echo has been revealed and it sounds like the Hawkeye spinoff could be in trouble. Find the latest on what we know about the Disney Plus series after the jump. I just jumped. Marvel Studios' phase four slate has been jam-packed and while that initially looked like good news for the fans, the quality of storytelling has definitely more hit and missed than normal. Some movies haven't lived up to the expectation

while a number of Disney Plus TV shows have highlighted the studio's experience in that realm. Whether it's She-Hulk, attorney-at-law, mixed bag of the effects of the way, Ms. Marvel's sagged in the middle. See, I don't like what comic when a movie does sometimes. They do more opinion piece than...

Yeah, these aren't facts. These aren't facts. This is this writer's opinion. I like the facts of it also. I'm going to just kind of edit a little bit. It feels like, no, no, no, no, no, Kevin Feigy might have too many irons in the fire. I mean, I agree with that.

Phase five looks set to be every bit busy, a new rumor points to Echo being in trouble. The Cosmic Circles Lizzie Hill, who has proven herself a very reliable source for scoves, recently took to Twitter to say, I've been hearing things from pretty reliable sources that make me very concerned about Echo. Previous Marvel production have been reported to have problems,

but have come out okay, so I generally don't get that concern, but I am concerned, hoping I'm wrong. While Hill didn't elaborate too much behind that, she later added some clarification, though I can't be too specific right now, but my understanding is the issue I'm hearing about it with Echo is the production itself, not the character, actress, or even the Daredevil Kingpin stuff.

An issue with production could be a number of things, and these comments come just weeks after her rum was about Echo potentially being delayed from its current summer 2023 premiere, and Marvel Studios is unlikely to make any official comments about this, of course. blah, blah, blah, blah. All right. So, and there's just no more opinion piece of stuff on the bottom. Okay, so let's get into this a little bit.

Coy, go ahead. You were going to say? I don't know, this sounds mean and it's not. I don't know who this audience is for, so it seems the easiest show to poke at. And that's what I got out of it, is this is the show that most people have been complaining about. Even the last bit of this article was saying,

like, we don't know, we don't need an echo show. I think the reason this show has gotten to be like, oh, we're hearing problems, if there's a slow news week or if Marvel hasn't been a punching bag lately, what are you going to point at? Echo. Like, it always feels like the one,

because every other show is, you know, a main character we've had before or it's a long-weighted debut or it's blankety-blank. The only one that's like an untapped potential really is Echo. So it seems to me like someone, I don't know, the sources I heard and the things I heard

all felt so like superfluous. They felt like someone reaching. And this feels like reaching a little bit to me too. Because it even says like production problems, but not specifically this, this or this. I won't talk about what they all. It just, it feels like someone being like, I heard the rumor of a rumor of a telephone. Right.

What do you think? You don't buy it? Bitch, I have a job. I just, I just, why, what is it with people wasting my time today? That's, that's a non-story in a sense that like. He's agreeing with me while I'm afraid. Okay, good. There are production issues.

Would you like to clarify? Like, what, what, they're behind schedule? Is somebody sick? Did somebody break a bone? Is somebody, like, throwing? out conspiracy theories? What are you talking about? And so like I... You're saying it's not enough facts with it. At all. Literally, what are we talking about? And that's the thing that drives me crazy is that in this day and age, it feels like you just always have to, like you said, you have to have

something to talk about. So this is why I didn't talk about it. But I will say is this, as far as the source itself, from what I heard, repital. The person that they reached out to me and told me a very similar thing. And there was more detail to it. But it was, but again, not for me to say, because I don't know all the way. It could be, inside of production could mean a lot of different things, right? It could mean scheduling. It could mean creative, which is also possible. And it could be just not happy with what's going on. Which is all fair. And I get that. But this idea that like, again, there's always, you said nothing. You literally said nothing. And it would be one thing if they were like, I don't need a teaser trailer for news. Just tell me something's

going on or don't. But like this, you didn't do anything other than just put a weird cloud out there to just mess with people. Well, it's similar to what happened with that Indiana Jones thing recently, right? Like there was a, they said, oh, there's a test screening and Disney's scared and they think it's terrible and fans don't like it. And then James Mangold's like, not true. Yeah. Yeah, James Mangold's like, absolutely. He's like, we haven't out in this. And don't listen to, if you're taking your news scoops from Doomcock and something else, then you got, this is what he said. He's like, and you got problems.

He's like, he's not true. I saw the trailer for, for Indiana Jones, and I know it was leaked and saw a lot of people did too. That was not a company that is afraid of their movie. They were like every single person coming out with tears in her eyes, Harrison Ford crying on stage. Everyone in Marvel came out and mentioned, like when Marvel comes out and goes, oh no,

like that's, that means the trailer's incredible. Also, if your article, your news article reads like one of those horrible websites that needs you to read about their life story before they get to the recipe and a cooking channel, that's a problem. But I don't want to shit on comedy movie because they really actually really like that. But that's every, everyone's talking about the story. Because no one has the source.

So everyone's like, in the beginning, that was my opinion of. And I'm not even necessarily coming straight at the writer at this one. I'm coming for both the writer and the source. If the source has something to say, then say it. Well, but the source might also maybe, not necessarily remember. So they're reporting on what this woman from a different size of it.

So she might have told them, like, this is, they barely, this is basically all you can say. Because that happens sometimes to it. Like, look, this is what you can say. We don't want to get in trouble, but we just know this thing's not. I think that's it. It's, that again, I'm of the mindset, considering how there are so many things in this world to drive us crazy and to upset

us right now. If you don't actually have news to tell me, keep it to your goddamn self. Because that, because that's the, and this is. It might have problems. Right. Don't do that. Just tell me, hey man. Look, we're hearing it has problems.

It's not happening. And there's going to, and apparently there's a massive fight on set. And blah, blah, then you're like, okay, that's a story. Then tell me that. But if it's a thing, well, some might be happening, but we can't tell you, but it's kind of happening. And I'm trustworthy, but I can't say shit, but also it's the thing. It's like, I was walking by the house the other day and I heard a glass break. Now, I didn't see anything, but I'm pretty sure someone got hit in the face with it.

Wait, what? Do you know that? No. I didn't even see anybody in the kitchen. But I once saw a movie where that happened. So in my experience, a glass breaking is, and that's what these stories are. And I heard anybody with the last name of HB throwing glass. Exactly.

Was it a tourist? I heard it was a tourist. You know, Libras and Taurus don't get along. Right. But, I mean, like I said, it's one of those things that's where, it's why I didn't, I wanted to, when I heard, and like, the person that I had spoken to, I trust very much so. And I believe, no, no, I know what you're saying. And I believe this, but I also wanted to say, hey, to someone else, I'm hearing these things.

But there was a little bit more detail in the thing that I got. Sure, sure. I don't know if it's true. And I don't want to talk about it if it isn't. Also, and I feel like we have to talk about this because this one got big enough that the non-story became a story that people had asked what we thought of this story. That isn't yet a story. So I think it's worth discussing the foundation of a lack of story story.

Because we've not reported on stuff that is not stuff before. Yeah, it's like fleeting. Didola. Yeah. This is not a thing. We're just here. Hey, there's a flea daedla and didla he'llah. If you diddle of the fetala, then you put it on the deedle and then the fiddle of the

and at the end of the day, you know who still wins? Marvel because we're talking about it. That's right. I guess I guess it's the same thing. Obviously we sit here and we talk about movies and comics and all that kind of stuff, right? If you're watching a movie and they tease a plot point and then the plot point is never talked about ever again. Why did you waste two hours of my time?

If Jack up his gun doesn't go off, I'm upset. If this is a thing that I'm like, all right, I guess we're talking about it. Bro. Oh my God. If Thanos goes, I guess I'll do it myself and we never see him again. Credits. I'm like, I'm burn this mother now, poopie. No, no, there's six gems, but he'll ever collect five.

We ignore the sixth gem. He's like, ah. Once again, what we're also making clear is we're not necessarily saying, though, that it's not true. We just have no. Absolutely. We're not yet. Just, just don't tease the infinity godlet if you ain't got it. Exactly. I just don't think there's enough there yet. Yes. Inside of that report itself, I agree with what Winston said.

There was, and what Coy said, this is a little bit too much. And like, there was a lot of opinion piece in there leading up to put some stuff in there because the ultimate story is there might be problems on the set. It looks like it's getting pushed back. We don't really know why. We don't know if the show is going to happen or not. It could, it might not. And it's like, okay, when there's a story, we'll talk about. Now, that said, if they cancel a full-on show, that's huge. Absolutely.

And maybe that makes this worth the whisper of an idea of a problem. Recast, push the schedule, someone sick, anything. That's huge. I'll try until it's that. I do. What I will say is this. What I agree with inside of that piece is that I do think Kevin Feig is way to, he's over-extended.

Way too overextended right now. And I think it's showing in the product. Absolutely it is. I know that we're in a different point of view here. I am less excited about the Ironheart series than I was beforehand. I don't know. I mean, I saw what we saw, D23 looks good. Incredible.

I love that. That was one of my highlight trailers. It looked good. I've just seen her now. I've seen her in a big battle. I've seen her fight. I've seen her do all this stuff. I've seen it.

Yeah, I know she lost, whatever happens by the end. No, no, no, no, no. I know that. I'm only cutting you off in the sense that I, someone had tagged me in something. I saw this. I saw this. And I don't believe it. I know you're going to say.

What, about that they decided to give the show after the... Yeah, sure. Kevin Feigy decided that the guy with the plan, so basically for people who don't know, what happened, a bunch of people wrote and said that Ryan Coogler had said, and I'm not disputing Ryan Cooghue said this. Ryan Cooghue said there was no plans for an Iron Heart series.

They just liked her so much in the movie that they gave her a show after like two years, because it was a fast production, so after two years. So Kevin Feigy decided, you know what? I usually plan about five years in advance. I really like that girl's performance. I've never wanted to do an Iron Heart show. I never would have thought about an Iron Heart show.

And he had an Iron Heart in there. Now I'm going to do a Disney Plus show. No, it doesn't happen like that. I'm looking out the macro. If Iron Heart does what we've talked about with being the bridge between science and magic leading to Doom in even an abstract way, if it does in fact have Mephisto, which is the rumor,

if it has any of those things, that's a lot of other parts besides Iron Heart to suddenly be like, we figured out how we're going to put together two years. Like, it doesn't, it doesn't logically work for the puzzle piece that is Marvel. If this was another studio that just like, hey, John Wick is getting a spinoff that's about the hotel.

Sure. I would say it doesn't seem logical that he just pulled it out of thin air. But I can see it where it's like, it's something we might consider because the Armor Wars was on the table and that was initially when they were talking about having Iron Heart be a part of that.

But dude, it's coming out. The show's coming out next year. No, no, I understand that. Is it a little convenient that the Black Panther comes out in November? and then this show comes out in like whatever it's March or April, whatever it comes out. No, for sure. They had to.

You have to line it up. They had to. I agree. They definitely had to. That's why I'm saying I don't give credence to the fact that it was just blanket, just like, nope. Dominique is so bombed. Like just boom. I would venture a guess.

It was something that Fagie would be interested in. And it was a situation where, because what, Miss Marvel had been long in production before all of this, like, and whatnot, right? That maybe even the rate that that was going and this idea of, like, we do want to bring in more, you know, varying audiences, younger audiences, more women. Ryan wants to produce a show. Ryan wants to produce it. All that kind of stuff.

You know what? We should green light it. Maybe Dominique fast tracked it. Maybe. That might be, and that might be a matter of rumor and translation, right? I could see it so we found her, oh my God, let's make the show sooner.

We've already got all this together. That might be a thing, but I can't imagine they're like, green. No chance. What I think is more likely in that scenario is Ryan Cougar, who had the daunting task. of having to rewrite an entire script because he lost his lead.

And he said, okay, now I got to write a new one. I listen, I really think that if we put Ironheart in here, it could help and it could work out for this story or whatever. Maybe she was in the original draft, I don't know. And then Kevin Feige goes, okay, she said, let's see how she plays. Let's see who we cast.

If the casting goes well and we like what she's doing, then I'll fast track the show. There's no chance, though. There's no chance that they're in the middle of going, oh, wow, you know, she's really she's doing give her a show the brand no no I agree with that

it's not not no not complete out of nowhere I'm saying it might have been like a teasing or we might want to do it and then once they saw what she did they were like yeah yeah we should move this forward but it's but it's one of those things we're like okay keeping in if if this

if she does well we want to get this thing going so start watching watching what she's doing absolutely but the idea and and that's why it also furthers the argument that it was written in there to push that show. It was really to push it been to push her because my point again is and this is I guess a spoiler if you haven't seen Wakanda forever. It's just that she is so heightened up already and she has

such a big moment and I know that she's going to go back and she has to go back to roots in the in the show but I've seen her hit the mountain already. And so you already feel like you've seen the crescent I know she's going to get there again. I know she's going to get there again. So it's like you could see knowing that with technology though you could make that argument with Tony Stark in the sense that like by the end of the first movie, it's like, oh man, he already got this great armor. And then they, I mean, look, Iron Man 2 is not good. But like they did end up having to come up with the, okay, well, it's poisoning you. So you just, you just, yes, they will get to the mountain top again.

You could absolutely find a way to make this story intriguing. And Ryan Coogler is someone producing that could, I'm not saying I'm not going to, I'm not going to watch you now. I'm just less excited. Fair. That's fair. It could be, it could be much better. And I could like her way better than I did in Black Panther.

And I don't, and I, it's not like disson. liked her. I just thought that her story was just less intriguing than the other stuff going on. But anyway, so one of the things, a crazy story that we're just going to talk about really, really quick, because we covered it in depth on yesterday's show is not Mr. Jackson just yet, but the Batman. I love the title of that graphic. Oh, shit. Rest in peace, Kevin Conroy. I know. I know. We didn't talk about it last week as it happened the day after we film. Yeah, that's how we film, guys. It wasn't a lack of respect. Right. Right. So we should actually probably, Before we get into that, we should thank you, Winston, for bringing up.

Kevin Conroy, the great Kevin Conroy, passed away last Friday, I believe it was, right? So, I mean, rightfully so, the geek community, people in general were paying their respects and talking about, did you ever get a chance to meet him? Once briefly. And it was just as, I mean, there's few things in your life that are as tied to memory as like sound and smell. Those two things always like get me. And it was just like the sound of Batman was so a part of my childhood. Like 93, I think the show came out. So I was 5.

92. So I was 93. Are you sure? Either way, I was 4 or 5. And I just remember that being like, oh, you're right. Mask of Fantasim was 93. You're right. Because which came out because they were like, this can be an ending if it needs to be.

You're right. So 92. So I was 4. So I remember that being one of those moments where I was like, oh, other people like this. Because when you're a kid reading comments, books, especially pre-2005, there doesn't feel like a community. And I remember Batman's voice was one of those first things that made me go like, oh, I'm not alone. And then the voice being something so compassionate and like the Bruce versus Batman voice. And then finding out Kevin Conroy was

the glorious man he was just being like in the same airspace. Like there's some people that when you're in the like, you're like, I'm breathing the air of. That was one of those people that I was just like, it was very brief, but I was just very aware that that was a part of my childhood and the impact I think I had in all of this. I heard nothing but really good things about him as Batman. I mean, in general, for what he did,

not only as Batman, I should say, but as the man, right, I've heard, just really kind things about him, people he worked with, people that met him,

fans, colleagues, just a really pleasant human being and a constant professional and someone that, and still many people, many people say that he is the best Batman. Live action or anything.

Like, he trumps, even the people, that have been on camera as Batman for me. And to be honest, a lot of people say that. I don't think there is, if I really think about it, I don't think there is an actor that has affected me more than Kevin Conroy. That sounds kind of wild to say,

but I have so much tied to Batman the animated series, to the Justice League cartoon, to the Batman video games. He literally has been Batman for 30 plus years. and it just genuinely broke me on Friday, man. I, oh, that was rough. So there's something about 66, man. He's so young. And that's just so staggering.

As, you know, we get older, not only is he tied to our childhood, but there's something very mortal about it because not only is your childhood dying, it's also the awareness that that number is not that much bigger a number. I'll be honest with you. I didn't, it was subconscious. Because when did crisis come out? Crisis was middle of 2020, like at the end of 2020.

A lot of action crossover? Yeah, yeah. So the one thing that I feel like I tapped into because I was just in that space, we were just talking about Wakanda Forever. I remember how everybody felt like shit once the news broke about Chadwick passing because he was getting a lot of jokes about like,

oh, we lost all this weight and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like what's going on with him? I remember seeing Kevin Conroy in crisis and being like, man, I thought he was much younger than that. And just thinking that he looked like kind of older and frail. And I found out when he passed it, it wasn't something that he had, but he had been sick for a while,

and I didn't know that. And the timing of the weekend celebrating Chadwick that we lost by shouldering this burden. And then Kevin Conray, who shouldered this, and he was still going to cons. And so the idea that these two heroes, these two titans, these two people that we all look up to in a very specific way, to lose one while we're mourning and celebrating the life of the other,

it was a really, like that weekend was just, that was brutal. Yeah, it was a little tough. So once again, and make sure that we, thank you Winston again for making sure that we didn't forget because Kevin Conroy is someone who never should be forgotten and everything that he added to the space and in general. And as Winston said,

Winston is not alone. I've heard many, many people talk about how Kevin Conroy kind of helped and remember their childhood and all the stuff that he had done. And Mike Kalinowski was also another one who was visibly really shaking up about this. And a lot of people were. And to watch all the love that Kevin Conroy rightfully got, again, Kevin Conroy, the great Kevin Conroy,

rest in peace. Now, there's no easy transition out of that for sure. But if you want to be able to transition into anything into your life in general, then what I'll tell you you should do is get yourself some athletic greens. I love it. I was going to go, Batman would probably use athletic greens because he's always fighting. So we need something efficient that has all of his vitamins and minerals. He needs to.

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So right before premieres when I do it, because I'm out of gas. Like you guys, we shot. So last week we shot, because it went to that to work, you know. And so he asked if we could shoot a little later. So when we shot our two capes last week, I was like, okay. And I was, I was running out of gas. And I, athletic greens. that some energy and boom there you go

we're still more on time than than today when I was uh yeah man bitch I got a day job you can't call nobody you'd be like you need a black man come on bro you need uh he needs to start you if

if you had one Xman power you should be nightcrawler oh dude if I could move it I would literally he would still be at hour late but that'd be on nine networks I want more he actually needs he needs the speech force. You need to be able to be the flash, not the teleporting, because at least

if you have the speed force... You have another cup of coffee. Yeah, I could burn some calories. I'd love the calorie idea. Also, Jamie Madrox, they could all go do my shows, come back into me with all the knowledge. So the reason I'm on all these networks is because I'm the only person reading 70 comics a week. So if they could read them for me, and then they could come to my body. That's another reason why you need the speed force

because he can just... Can you imagine what I would do with that besides this coffee to get that speed force? The dream. You talked about it. Let's get into it. The Batman, the Batman. Lewis Batman and John and Batman, Frank Batman. The query is Batman.

This one is Denne Geek. And so DC confirms new plan, new Batman movie plans. All right. For years, fans have several options for choosing their favorite Batman. David Zazelaw wants James Gunn and Peter Saffron to change that. A bad guy lies beaten on the ground above him. Towers a shadowy figure. The moonlight highlights only his horn head and billing cape.

Who are you? Pleads the defeated crook with a growl. The figure answers on Batman. description probably put a familiar image in your head, one that you've seen time and time again. But for you, which Batman is saying, Batman? Do you hear Adam West droll delivery, Michael Keaton's whisper, the late great Kevin Conroy's baritone? Batman has proven to be one of the most malleable superheroes of all time. By the way, I like this writer thus far, which has allowed Warner Brothers to tell a wide range of stories about the character, but that's also meant

a lack of focus for the franchise, right? Right the second, WB's live action Batman can mean Ben Affleck or Michael Keaton, returning in the upcoming The Flash movie, Robert Patton's Emo take in the Batman, or Ian Glenn's distant Bruce Wayne and Titans. While this might be great for storytellers who want to tell different kinds of tales with the Dark Night, the new regime at WB seems to be aware that audiences might find that confusing and unclear about which Batman is the real Batman on screen. It's one of the issues as Azzlov wants the newly installed heads of DC studios to address. According to the high reporters, Asloff said in discussion with

Capital Merrill, what is that? RBC Capitals, Kutken, Merrill, I don't know what that all means. It doesn't matter. That James Gunn and Peter Safran have nearly completed a DC Bible, which lays out the studio plans for his characters, including the Cape Crusader. I think over the next few years, you're going to see a lot of growth and opportunity around D.C.

There are not going to be four Batman's. In other words, WBC is saying its plans to untangle the multiverse mess currently encumbering the character and potentially establish one Batman incumbent as their big screen dark night. Now, there's a lot of other stuff inside of the report, and I can just go over what we had yesterday, and we talked about a little bit yesterday. Roxy posed a good question inside of this, you know,

because what the other report was that potentially that James Gunn and Safra might be looking to fold the patents and Matt Reeves into their DC universe. Don't. That's something. That's something potential, right? The other is what she posed, what Roxy said is, do you think,

that this means there's going to be one Batman, two Batman, or just not four, you know, like, because that's the report. The report is just not four, right? At one time, because I do believe that is, that could be a little confusing. Now, the question is, do you want to do a thing where it's very similar to Marvel where you just, you have one Batman? You have one Superman? That's it.

Now, I do, this is what I think is going to happen. I think that they're going to let Matt Reeves do his trilogy. I think the three Batman movies that he's going to do ends a trilogy and I think that's probably where we potentially could start. I actually think it would be fun to see if you could fold over the patent

something inside of it if James Gunn can find a way to do it. I just feel like it would negate the thing we loved about it so much. What I love about the Batman that he built is that it feels so plausibly distant in that there's no way to make a character that is so grounded in reality to the point where like,

yeah, he'd be more of a recluse. Yeah, he'd be all these things. If you throw in gods, then the plausible deniability of Gotham. And it's also a question. I mean, even though I want to see it, I couldn't even fathom a world with him and King Shark are standing next one.

That's not, like the trolls are the villain of the first film, something that's in our lives. Like the villain of that film is the issues we're facing. If you take that and put it to an 11, it negates the specialness of this versus other Batman.

Other Batmans have done the big everything thing. And the reason this one I think felt unique was David Fincher wouldn't make a movie with Batman in it that had King Shark. It was like Nolan too. You know, Nolan too. Yeah. Nolan played in the real.

You could, but not the king chart we saw on the suicide squad. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like what I give Nolan a lot of credit for, you found a way to make Two-Face who essentially became like a deformed mutant and made it realistic. So like there's a way to do it, but not based off of what we currently have. And James Gunn's not going to change his suicide squad.

Absolutely not. So what I think probably most really anything we talked about on a big thing yesterday was what I think, as I say it more, what potentially could happen is this. They finish up the Batman. They do all three. They make their money off. They go, okay, now that's it.

We wrap it. Put it on a bow. Ben Affleck is a possibility to come back because Zazlov really likes Affleck and really likes him. But does Affleckxone? He keeps saying he's done. But then he keeps in Aquaman. But now he's going to be an Akkwain.

He's going to be in the flash. So maybe they had a different conversation with him. So maybe not. But the other thing is he's 50 years old. How long are they going to go with him? you know, if they're going to do that. Keaton, significantly older, probably not going to be in this.

Unless he's going to go Old Man Bruce. Unless you're going to go Old Man Bruce, but still for how long? So who's going to be your Batman overall? And is it a new Batman? So, I mean, again, if he goes Old Man Bruce, we're not talking Dark Night returns, Old Man Bruce. We're talking like the Bruce way Batman Beyond,

where you're the guy in the chair at that point. You occasionally beat people up with Keynes, but you're chilling. You're not, I think if Keaton wants to do that, That's an easy job to just essentially go. But they're not going to do that. It depends. It depends.

Who knows? We haven't seen the movie yet. But what I'm saying, the reason why they wouldn't do that, if you have this Bible, and there's no way Zazov would let them do that. Because if you're David Zazloff and you know, who are your power players? Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman. The Superman and Batman are your two. Those are your A-lister.

Those are your guys. And have proven to make some cash for you in the past. So you're just going to sideline him and go, okay, okay, James and Peter, you want to just put him in a chair? But you got to hear me out here. I understand that sounds like you're sidelining him, but it's really, really not.

It's like Nick Fury level type stuff. No, I know. To play devil's advocate here. Kids are going to want to see Batman sitting in a chair. Teenagers are you want to see Batman sitting in a chair? But no, no, I get that. But you do know that while Bruce is doing that, that you have Terry McGittes as the Batman

that's actually being Batman. So it's like, he goes into a mentor state. I'm saying if you want to keep keeping around and keep that star power, you continue to allow him to do that as Bruce Wayne. And then Batman is doing, like Batman Beyond is a genuinely very beloved, Terry McGinn is a very loved character. We haven't got a chance to see him in live action yet. So I feel like that actually could be very, very interesting to see that.

What do you think? I was going to say, I think that you're correct, but you're thinking from a place of logic, not a place of business. And we just saw a man gut a bunch of properties based off business. I think Zazlov's issue You don't think that Terry could do No, no, I think so. It's not a matter of that. It's a matter of Zazloff.

I, I, Koi, loves Batman Beyond. Yeah, yeah. I, Koi, don't think that a business person that just scrapped an entire movie unceremoniously is going to say Bruce Wayne should be an old man. Well, okay, but I guess that. But he might have scrapped that movie.

Let's call it. The movie might have been dog shit. But since we don't know, I'm only, I'm using optics. I'm using, we as fans went, hey, mean man, we don't know why he did this. You're a mean man. I don't imagine mean man is going to be like, let's step Bruce Wayne.

No, he's going to want a bad man. So he's got to want brand recognition. So here's the thing that I think I'm, I am myself confused about and maybe didn't explain very well. If they did that, I would believe it's a world where similar guardians can happen

where people are chilling on Earth and then there's people chilling in space. There's the, this is the present that we're dealing with since we're about to deal with time travel and flashpoint. And this is just a future part of that. So they're connected, but it's like, this is the future. That's just a matter of how many Batman.

I've wanted Batman beyond. That's what I'm saying. I would argue, I think the smart thing to do is you have essentially three Batman. You have your main Batman. You have your- John F. Batman and John of Batman. You have your future Batman in Terry McGinnis, which I think would be a fun story. And then you can make the decision if you want to keep some version of it on TV. though, Titans really kind of feels like it's in its own universe at this point,

or if you just have your Matt Reeves, Batman, and then you take out the TV one and be like, that's that, that's a cabosh on that. My dream would be, I've been wanting Batman Beyond since I was movie fighting. Batman Beyond is one of my most precious characters. I'm looking at bottom line, though, so I think Matt Reeves is the most profitable. You've got a low budget, high reward. And everyone, I was going around saying it was a $100 million movie that then made almost, you know, 700 million, but it doubled in budget because of the COVID protocols

that are now implemented, so it won't double in budget again. So now Batman 2 can be 1 to 150 if they keep that same protocol. So that's a $600 million dollar like turnover. It's incredible. So then I would love if you got a Justice League Batman that would interact with Henry Cavill Superman. I don't think that's Batman Beyond. I don't think that's Matt Reeves' Batman.

And a great reason why is even James Gunn, look at, imagine Harley Quinn interacting with the Batman. It doesn't want. No, I know. But we need someone. Well, sorry, but like you said, I think the switch is this. you had said, well, you can't have that King Shark interact with that man.

You have to have something else. You can't, you might, what they might do in this, I'm not telling you people are going to like this. But out of all the choices, out of what we're just talking about Zazlov and wanting a younger Batman, Pattinson's young. Yeah. You might just change that Batman up a little bit.

And you might just change it where he could interact with those people. Or you might just give it a little bit more of a different feel with, you know. I don't know if that where he's doing a universe. Who knows if that's going to still happen? That's interesting too. I think the way to do it is because we've proven that people aren't stupid. You can... Have we?

When? Well, okay. I missed the member. Let me try this again. Let me try this again. Let me try this again. Let me try this again. Let me try this again.

Let me try this again. People are hell of stupid. Okay. But they can follow if it makes sense when it comes to storyline. As long as you don't make it overly complicated, as long as you explain the rules, it'd be fine. So if you set it up in a situation of like, okay, We're ultimately admitting there is a multiverse, but we're just going to put harder rules to it

in the way you did Spider-Verse, for example. It was very easy for people to follow, oh, that's a Spider-Man that's in black and white, and that's a Japanese Spider-Man. Right, right. So you do the same thing. You go, Patinson over here, but what you can do is you can have Patinson be the Justice League Batman

if you need the young dude. It's just, these are just two different versions of them. But I'm just telling you what you said before. In no world does Azlolf say that. He goes, make it simple. You want two for you two. This guy. Get him out.

And if we have two, I think it's Batman Beyond and Batman. But I think if we have three, and I know this is going to be comments come at me. But I think the best way to do it is to have a new Justice League that is actually the Justice League of the comic books, which would allow Henry Cavill to deliver the Superman he wants, which would allow the joy and all those things, which requires, I think, a new Batman, brand new. No one's going to come after you. It's exactly what Roxy said you're straight to. Okay.

Well, I'm sure. I mean, Boston Bros. I got this. But I do think that Ben Affleck's Batman doesn't work with the vision of what I think they're going to want to build Justice League from. And I want Ben, I love Batfleck, but as he's approaching,

you know, if we do a 10-year-old at 60, I don't think a 60-year-old will be wanting that. It's the same reason that I don't believe that, knowing that I didn't even really think about this, Patinson's not a good fit to pair up with Cavill. Because their age is, it's only about a decade, but it's enough that they're supposed to, to be both of them.

They went off of the same roles. He's like a few years older than him. But he looks, he looks, he looks, he looks, he looks, he looks, he looks more mature than him. And so I was just going to say from that standpoint of they, they need to look like, these are two best friends that go out around the same age. I should have started this conversation with everything I'm saying comes from a point of I'm picturing world's finest. I'm picturing issues of Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne.

I'm picturing Batman and Superman. But those are both separate entities. And all four need to work. And therefore, I think you need a brand new fresh as much as much as I, want bat flax, I want him to get his due. I would love for them to find a way. But I don't know if that's going to work with Henry Cavill Superman going forward. So I think you need a brand new Batman and keep Matt Reeves, because I do honestly think we're going to get the penguin show in that universe. I think I hope.

Could be optimism. But that's a universe. Like that's, that's its own thing. And then therefore, I think you let these other Batman fade. Yeah. Maybe with Flashpoint. And then you restart. FlashP, that's one of the main reasons that they're going to, regardless of the fact that

they think it's good. Yeah. They're going to put it out there because they need it. reset. But let me, you seem pretty, you seem like someone to make, you make decisions, you make them pretty early. Yeah. Well, one of the decisions you should be making, I'll tell you right now, is this was Christmas gifts. You're going to love this. So uncommon goods. Um, this is something I just already did this for Sadie recently. You should be doing this and don't even tell you he's writing it down. I love it. Good. I'm going to tell you all about it in just a second here. This is uncommon goods.

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december 10th you ain't just going to jump my shit i've never been invited i didn't know it's not marked no no that's fine i'm just now now i know but but the other thing is not to dictate the show but can we jump into boom because uh i unfortunately will have to yeah yeah yeah let's let's he's got a job that i'm a monster that's fine we'll start we'll do we will boom comics or boom studios i should say so by the way talking about a lot of feedback man we got a lot of feedback from you guys at bloom people are a lot of Lovin, boom, and I understand why. They're so good.

So good, but. It makes me real happy that Winston's like, I got to go before I do comic books. I got to do. Well, let me tell you. This is the one when they sent this one. I kind of lost it a little. Look at that art. Yeah.

Mighty Morph and Power Rangers, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, too. Are you kidding me? I mean, come on. That is like every 90s kid's, like, dream, loving this. And we got to take a look at the biggest crossover of 2022. I mean, even even our, our, guy over at boom he's like wait until we show wait until you see what we're sending you guys

he was really excited as he knew he knew right away it is the we got we had an early look at the biggest crossover of 2022 and it reminds me back in the day when G.A. Joe crossed over with the transformers and so now we have the Mighty Morph and Power Rangers

and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. They're teaming up once again for a massive crossover event this December and we had a chance to look at it it's really awesome. Writer Ryan Parrott and artist Dan Mora are returning to the franchise with a new epic story that we've been asked to keep tightly under wraps. We can't give you a lot of story beats on it.

This is one of the few times that even the guy over at Boom, he's like, hey, just be careful with the plot. Don't say anything where we won't, we won't. But what I can tell you is that there are really massive surprises in store for both the Rangers and Turtle fans. And we're not going to spoil it, I promise you, but you're not going to want to miss it. What we can show you as I've been showing you here are these covers that are just absolutely art on these covers are absolutely amazing.

And a cover by the legendary Teenage Mutin Ninja Turtles co-creator Kevin Eastman and Freddie Williams, which you know is going to be huge in the collector's market. So pre-orders for the book and on Monday. And if you want any of these variant covers that I've been showing you here, you should ask your local comic shop to order them because they're going to go pretty hard to, they're going to be pretty hard to find once it lands next month. look at some of these I mean look at that that picture I long April holding Kim's Bo it's oh that's my fan

I hadn't seen that one yet that's my favorite no that's look at these six I'm gonna I'll run I'll run through actually you know what I'm gonna run through them again but this this this one I loved

I love this overall thing that's great and then that's a pretty great it's awesome I mean the art on this one it's just absolutely incredible I mean and so that's the thing this is being the follow up I want to say this is the first one

happened about two or three years ago. Absolutely insane crossover. You don't necessarily think about it, but if you, again, like you said, about the 90s, these were the two martial arts shows fully dominating. Yeah. That had numbers for people trying to take martial arts through the roof because you were either trying to be a Ninja Turtle or you were trying to be a Power Ranger.

And pizza went up too. And that too. The Pizza Hut had so many deals and so did Dominoes. It was a great. It was a great time to be alive. And so when this first one happened, my mind was blown. like it's not really a spoiler for the first one point because the Rangers are in trouble

the turtles end up getting morphers and become Rangers for a while which is it's which is sick so I cannot wait to see what they do with this follow-up again we've read this first issue you need to go get it like this is not a it's not a game I knew Winston was going to be said in when he was he's a massive turtles fans Power Rangers too I'm like out here in these screams well I remember I know the shmow down like the time a turtle's question and come up you oh ate it up man

I'm gonna go comic perspective because 90s is beloved and he covered the 90s nostalgia glory but I know I don't want a single thing ruined from this issue because there's a lot of great twist so I'm gonna say as someone who's worked with Kevin Eastman a bunch at Comic-Conns who was a huge fan of Kevin Eastman, the comic creator

who I love the original comic I really love how much respect and integrity and how much this could have gone awry how much that when you say those characters it could easily feel like oh yeah let's smash these icons together it doesn't feel like that this feels like a letter to what Kevin Eastman built, and that meant a lot to me.

And all that he's involved. Yeah, like, he was there to go, like, that is me. Like, and it feels like it. And I love that thumbprint. I'm really excited for this. And the fact that we had a chance to look at, I'm excited to read more. I mean, just to see more and see the understand me. The crossover comes out soon you can pre-order it.

But it's, like, I'm getting more, because you guys know from watching enough, I've never been, except when I was younger, G.I. Joe Comics and Marvel, that was my thing. I loved it. But through this segment, I've been reading all these great comics and getting all stories. We're getting them Winston. Boom got me.

Boom. I will pay for it if I have to. But if you want to send, you know, as this is running, like, I'd appreciate it. Like, you let me know what you need. You need like a kidney or something. Like, what's the deal? Just keep showing up not late and you'll be. That's the trick.

You guys actually film free before I get it. I got a job. So I'll see y'all later. I love you. I'll see you next week. Thanks quit. Appreciate that. You know what? Thank you. I'm so sorry.

Tell your boss that you're the best employee on the planet. This is the one thing that you've got integrity of respect. He's got integrity to actually can handle. I'm going to fix the wide shot. You talk. Okay. Oh, hey, talking. All right. So the thing about comic books is. No, I'll give you guys another book to read this week. So from Image Comics, there's a book called It's Lonely at the Center of the Earth. And I literally reread it today. I read it yesterday and then reread it today. It is from Zoe Thorogood.

And it is an autobiographical mental health workbook effectively. She was trying to get out of a depression. She was trying to work through a lifetime of figuring out who she is and what she wants to be. And so she put all of her thoughts and feelings on the page as a cartoonist and as a writer and wrote, I think literally one of the best therapy sessions I've ever had. It felt like going to therapy, the comic. So it's a really beautiful, it's very useful in the way that it uses meta analysis. Like it breaks the fourth wall, but in very clever ways.

It's in color. It's in black and white. It uses different art styles. And it's one book. It's singular. You just pick up this one book, have yourself an experience. it's really special and unique. All right.

So looks, once again, as I showed you before here, man, this turtles crossover with Power Rangers, make sure you pre-order it Friday for sure today. And there you go, capes and cows, boom. I'm loving it. And one of the things, again, that you have been doing, and please continue to do so, let me know.

A lot of people have told me that they've read a lot of these suggestions from Boom. We've been hearing something is killing the children from people a lot. I've heard a lot of house to slaughter. I've heard a lot of berserker, which makes me happy. when I got into Boom, those were a lot of my gateway books. And what's been cool is when they've been sending us some stuff, I always pick up Booms number ones. I will always try out a Boom book because I trust them.

They consistently get delivered. But what I've been loving is we've gotten the opportunity to talk about the stuff that I might not have read week one. And people are already getting back to us week one. Like between week one and two, I see people picking it up. I mean, and I send it to our guy where boom, every time I get one. Yeah. I do a screenshot.

I send it. And they're very excited to see it. And they started and they've retweeted. did our stuff now and they're getting it so it's it's a great relationship i really love being involved with boom i think that they're they're they're gonna be you're going to be hearing from them for a very long time i think they're i think they're stuff's going to start to become movies and tv that's what they should have done they should have done a teenage mean digital's power rangers movie i'd be there a heartbeat and and i'm sure there's licensing stuff but if this goes well clean like use the money

from this to make it happen and i also think like with independent comics like image and boom are are Titans, but they're still not the big two, and therefore you should support those comics. Like, I love that these writers and these artists are getting to work with companies that are really supporting their creativity. Like, do what you want. Play with these characters. Bring in your IP, like, damn them all. I love that one

of my favorite Constantine writers, like, I'm going to be my own, and I'm going to do what I want. And I love that boom supports that. And it's a comfortable feeling to know that, you know, they, that the they care. Yeah. It's like, I don't know, you just feel, you feel nice and fuzzy. To be honest, I worked with them at Comic Con, and one of the main things

I noticed as compared to sometimes other companies that are like, let's do this, okay, bye, is they were so hands-on of like, what do you want this panel to feel like? And then, like, they wanted to know what Keanu wanted it to feel like. They wanted to know what the publishers wanted to feel like. And then we all collaborated. And I feel like the comic books reflect that. It's collaborative. You feel everyone getting their say, and that's why I mentioned the Kevin Eastman thing.

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call it a day. Yeah, yeah. Well, let's see which one. You know what? I'm going to let's let's see. So far, I have the thumbnails in there, but let's see. We have, what do you want to talk? You want to talk about Quentin Tarantino on the one movie that he would direct? We talked about that. We don't talk about Amy Adams? We talk about

Amy Adams? I mean, I was at disenchanted last night. Yeah. Oh, and there's a, you know what? Always Spider-Man's mine guy. Sorry, Amy. We'll do two stories. We'll do two. Okay, I like that. I want to get the Spider-Man freshman year story. Have to get that. I've got a very specific take on that. Okay, so let's talk about that.

Let me just find it in just a minute, and boom, there it is. All right, Spider-Man freshman year. Now, there's new details revealed amidst rumors that the Disney Plus series could be canceled. Now, new details have been revealed about Daredevil's role in Spider-Man freshman year, which, while we also have an update on rumors of the animated series had been canceled amidst members of the crew being let go. Marvel Studios delivered another show stealing a Hall H panel at this year's San Diego Comic Con. There was another devoted to their upcoming animated projects that drew a lot of attention.

First looks at everything from X-Men 97 to Marvel zombies were revealed, while we also got a sneak peek at Spider-Man freshman year. Though hope had been that the series would take place prior to the events of Captain America Civil War. Instead, it's set in another world where Peter Parker finds a mentor in Norman Osborne. So it's not inside the MCU? That's, yeah, one of the reasons I have a take on it. Oh, okay. I think that's its issue.

Yeah, I don't really care anymore. That's exactly what I think. Recently, there have been some troubling rumors circulating on social media about both the future of Spider-Man freshman year and all these animated MCU projects. According to the Cosmic Circus, again, while the idea of the show has been canceled, and excuse me, while the idea of canceling the show

has been floated around, the current plan is still for its premiere on Disney Plus in 2024. However, Marvel Studios won't be moving forward was Spider-Man sophomore year until they can gauge the interest in the first season, hence why most of the crew had been let go. With the MCU rapidly expandedly, thanks to the streaming service, it appears budget cuts are taking place with these animated projects at risk to at least some extent. The site shares a few other interesting tidbits,

including the fact that Charlie Cox's Man Without Fear, we'll get an alleyway fight scene on par with the hallway battles we've seen in Deer Devil and She-Hulk Attorney of Law. It sounds like Old Hornhead will team up with Spider-Man to fight the kingpin with Vincent Donoff. were turning to voice to villain. They add that sources told us the show and the movie were meant to parallel each other as these moments happened in alternate universes.

In other words, Spider-Man freshman year could end up reflecting what we see in Spider-Man for. Rumor has it that the movie will see Spidey team up with Deer Devils to take down the kingpin once and for all. So, seeing the same battle play out in a different world through animation should be a lot of fun. All right, Corey, hit me. Okay, so I think three things here. One is that in when it was announced, there was a lot of convoluted information

back and forth. Some people were like Tom Holland's going to voice it. Some people were like it's going to be in the universe. Some people were like it's not going to be in universe. And I think a big part of that was they didn't have a clear message to deliver and that was dangerous. So like you just in this moment found out in real time not supposed to be set in the MCU. Two, I think that they're cleaning house. I think that right now they're looking at their bottom line and they're going, okay, what's essential? What's not? What do we want to have the through line of the MCU be? Oh, this isn't in the MCU? Why are we doing this? So that's very concerning for it because I was excited for this. But if you've got all of this going on, and there's this, you're going to have to lose that. And that's dangerous. And then third, I do think that the part of this was before the Tom Holland negotiations got to the point where they sound like they are. We're hearing nothing but like Tom Holland, three movies, two side movies, all of everything going forward.

I'm wondering if Spider-Man freshman year was a, okay, while we're trying to figure out if we have Spider-Man, let's make this other Spider-Man thing as like a placeholder and then move it forward. Maybe they want to allocate everything towards live action. Maybe they want to, I don't know how much money they've already spent. I don't know how much more it would cost, but I do think it's really dangerous to build,

things in and out of the MCU for people's understanding of what it is. I mean, we're just talking about that with the Batman, right? That's literally that, right? So I think three things are working against it. All right, well, covering, like, so staying in the Spider-Man universe, because that's, that's part, it adds to what Coy was just saying here. There's another report from comic book movie that Spider-Man 4, Marvel Studios, plans for Venom symbiote, both previously and moving forward, and it's possibly revealed here.

Some possible details have been revealed about Marvel Studios' plans for the Venom Symbiote in the MCU. While we also have Intel on plans for the alien costume before Sony Pictures released 2018's Venom. There's still a lot of uncertainty surrounding Tom Holland's future as Spider-Man, while Sony Pictures in Marvel Studios have seemingly seemingly, there you go, put past differences aside. We've heard nothing about the actor's MCU return beyond some online chatter that he's finally signed a new deal. In Spider-Man, No Way, home-med credit scene, we saw Eddie Brock and Benham set back to their own universe,

there are a piece of the alien was left behind. While it's in Mexico for the time being, we have to believe that the symbiote, it's symbiote, right? Yep. Is eventually going to find its way to New York City and Peter Parker. According to Heavy Spoilers YouTube channel, Marvel Studios originally had a big plan to slowly build up towards the black suit,

only for that to change thanks to Venom's release in 2018. It never made much sense for Spider-Man to return from his out-of-space adventure in Avengers Infinity War without it, so we have to believe that Sony derailed those plans. In fact, the launch of the Venom franchise is said to have caused a lot of trouble behind the scenes, and it sounds like Kevin Feige pushed to stop Holland's wallcrawler from appearing in Venom.

Interesting. While the new deal signed in 2019 appears to have opened the door to crossovers, which have been restricted to vague multiverse ties thus far, it seems Spidey will remain exclusive to the MCU. As for what the future holds in store for the Venom symbiote in that world, it's added that Spider-Man 4 won't focus on the black suit because they're saving it for a film further down the line. This actually lines up with what we've heard about the sequel being a grounded adventure

before Spidey encounters the alien suit later in its next trilogy. Nothing here is official and should, as always, be taken with a pinch of salt. However, it feels like that there are plans, big plans for Spider-Man in the MCU and the Venom Simiop being evolved is definitely exciting. Venom 3 ends that Eddie Brock variant story, perhaps, his MCU counterparts could show up in Spider-Man 5, played by Tom Hardy. Spider-Man is expected to be released in 2024. That is soon.

That's not true. Is that true? Well, they're talking a lot. Like, I've heard Tom Holland stuff all week. I keep hearing that Tom Holland got a three-fictor deal in his solo movies. It would have to be written already. I think it is. Okay.

I think regardless of Tom Holland coming back, they prepped a grounded Spider-Man story. And I think they were just like 90% we're getting Tom Holland back. No matter what we're going to get him. And it paying the writer to write a script and having, it at the ready, we'll save them more money than not having a written, like, you know what I mean? I'd have five screams. It's worth a risk. It's worth that. So I think what's happening is they're trying to clean up the things like, this sounds like a mess going forward with Venom and like

everything with Spider-Man. He did go to space. A lot of us were like, well, that's where he gets the symbiote. We all thought that. So it would be interesting is, you know, we left that little bit of symbiote after No Way Home, the post-credit scene. I don't think he should get the symbiate that soon. But I do think there should be multiple films in the black costume, at least one before Venom. I'd love if they make the Eddie Brock a variance. I think that would tie up a lot of continuity and everything else. The problem is those Venom movies make so much money. I think Tom Hardy's

gonna want to be done after Venom 3 because, you know, he's... He's done. It's a lot of movies. But maybe to do a one-off in a Spider-Man movie is how you end your tenure. Yeah, I want to see him in Star Wars, man. Yeah? Tom Hardy's fascinating. Tom Hardy's But I mean, how long do you want to play a character? He loves the character and I think that it suits

him, but I don't know if he's going to want to do three movies and then another three with Spidey. That's what Tom Holland's do. I want it. I mean, as self- I want to Tom Tom off. I mean, but I mean, I don't know if it's going to happen or not as far as the, the venom portion of it, but as far as Spider-Man goes, I think keeping it grounded is a good idea. I think that the idea of what they're doing right now. I mean, look, if they eventually add that story in venom, they're probably, you probably,

Tom Hardy would probably be a variant. Yeah. I mean, I think it's probably a good idea to do it that way that we can tell. But it's interesting, the stuff that I. Then you could do the iconography, right? Yeah, yeah. You'd have your cake and eat it too. Right.

You keep Tom Hardy is a great venom. You keep Betty Brock, but then you finally get to see it. It feels right. Yeah, it would feel, it would feel a little different. I think that what I like the most about it, that report,

not like the most, but what I thought most interesting was, I do believe that the Venom movies pissed Figuille off. I think it's kind of working out long term in a good way because if we have Spider-Man one somehow in 2024, somehow, it seems unlikely. No chance.

20-4. How do they get to do 20-24? Like, I have no idea. Right. So, so. And his web and his, uh, uh, uh, John Watts. Thank you. Yeah, I don't even, because he's filming. He's doing Star Wars. He's doing Star Wars. That's how you get Tom Hardy. And he's got other stuff. Yeah. But so, so say miraculously it comes out 2024. What if we somehow get Spider-Man 2, if they somehow have it written a couple of years later.

You need Spider-Man 5? Thank you. Spider-Man 2 of the second trilogy, Spider-Man 5. What if that ties into secret or? Because that's where he got the black suit in the comic books. Okay. Because in the comic books, black suit is secret wars. So the comic fans would be like, oh, we lost the space opportunity. If he gets a, in Secret Wars, and that's where the black suit takes over. You've got all the iconography of Spider-Man in the black suit. You get to play in Secret Wars, and then you bring Venom, you get the white suit in your final of the Spider-Man trilogy. Tom Hardy's not too old. Tom Holland is finally an adult because it shouldn't be a kid Spider-Man fighting a Venom.

He's always been an adult when they're toe-to-to-to. That's what's intriguing to me with this new trilogy is... Keep him young for a little bit. Well, it's, but it's still the idea that it's that Spider-Man, like, this is the first Spider-Man that we've had out of all the actors. Yeah. That you're going to see the progression of... Because, well, Toby did it too.

Yeah, but Toby was 57 years old when he did the first. He also stayed the same. Yeah, he was always the same. And they were, and Tom Holland is the only one out of the three of them. And I like all three of them. Tom Holland was the only one of the three of them. It legit felt like a kid in high school. And he got a six movie origin.

So give him now a three movie arc of becoming Spider-Man. An adult. Yeah. Like to have him be like an adult. Go to college in movie one, maybe even movie two. Have that be secret wars. And when he comes back, have him fight Venom as a grown man, like 20s. Are they going to do, because they've,

already addressed that when Stacey died in this, well, in a different universe, but in this. They're in a rock and a hard place because they've negated the Osbournes because he's met Norman Osborne. Right. What's he going to, if he meets a variant of Osborne, even if it's not one of the foes, he's going to be like, you're a bad guy. Gwen Stacy's been mentioned as a very important catalyst. Right. So you've lost Green Goblin and Gwen Stacy to fig, like foundational members of the world, but you do still have things like Punisher. You have things like, you know, characters that have already been introduced, which would save you time. So, so in, in one way, It's a detriment to Spider-Man,

but also since you said, like Daredevil, Punisher, a lot of characters that don't need introductions can just come to play. But I don't know what his college would look like without Harry and Gwen

because Harry Osborne would have the name Osborne. Like, what is that even? And Flash Thompson has already, you know, established and messy. And we've played in that area before, too.

So I like the idea that if you're going to go with Venom and do it that way, but you also play inside of the world of Daredevil and these other things and lead into... Keep it small.

Keep it grounded. It's going to be interesting. And Randy Robertson's one they can do, His roommate in college is, um, so J. Jonah Jameson is the head of the bugle. His right-hand man is Robbie Robertson. Robbie Robertson. His son, uh, they were like roommates. And that's a character that could maybe take the Harry Osborne kind of role, like the best friend, all those things.

So there are things that could work. Maybe you bring in, um, like, uh, Liz Allen or characters like side characters from the comics. It's just, uh, sharing this much responsibility with Sony is tricky. Because I think Sony. Always has been. Well, Sony does a really great job caring about the fans. I will say it. I'll say it again.

Like they really want. their fans to be happy. Marvel does a really good job building universes and wanting the fans to be happy. I don't know what those meetings look like when they've got a 10-year plan and the other one is like, hey, we're putting together Madam Webb. Also, does this tie to Madam Webb's web of Spider-Man? But Sony is real-ish to stop doing. This is where if I was

Kevin Feige, I would be mad too. Because without Marvel, and they might be, they may care for fans for sure. And I don't care how much money Venom made. They're not great movies. They're not. I love Andy Circus, but that last movie was not good. It was entertaining. It was like a both very

similar to what I said about Black Adam. Sure. I actually enjoyed Black Adam more than those movies, but I think that they're in the same vein of like the late 90s kind of movies. But that scene in Morbius, at the end of Morbius, that post-credit scene was garbage and made no sense. And Sony has no idea how to continue in that thing. I defend, I defend movies all day, but I don't think that there's a world where that got signed off on by enough people to make it work for both. And I don't understand the legal of it because I feel like there have to be checks and balances to have these characters share space. That doesn't feel like anyone oversaw.

It makes no sense. Yeah. It makes no sense, and it's a total waste of Michael Keaton at all. It messes up both worlds continuity. Tremendously. Which is dangerous? It's so stupid.

And who knows, is Morbius even going to be around anymore? They're going to bring him around. I don't know if it did well enough. No, it's such a goof. And Craven's coming out. The plush line. And what worries me is Craven, like, could be great.

They pushed Craven. Craven was supposed to be in January. Oh, yeah, they pushed it. I don't know where they pushed it. Is it May now? That's good news. in it. That's good news. That means like, oh, we like it. But Madam Webb, I'm hearing huge things. I'm hearing like spiderversal ramifications. Like, I mean, I don't know anything about the plot, but I'm hearing it's,

it's, it's a, Madam Webb basically deals the web of life. So she'd be a great way to bring in a live action Spider-Verse. Whether they do that or not, I think is up to the collaboration. But it has the potential to be Spider-Verse live, which be cool. I think the first movie you do, him as an adult, grounded, maybe Daredevil or anything to, second one, maybe Venom. And the third one, you introduce Miles Morales and then push I think Tom Holland has to I think Tom Holland has to die But I think the only way to make that impact

Is I would do it with Andrew Garfield I'd bring Andrew Garfield back for one more Introduce Miles Morales in the Sony Strictly Sony universe, no ties And then bring him in multiversally to Marvel But let Miles be his own thing for a bit And that way Sony gets their time Like think about it that way Sony can have a Spider-Man

That doesn't tie to the MCU I would love for them to be able The time I think that they're missing out on the time though Like they should have capital I don't know why they didn't capitalize. The second they saw that movie that knew that Garfield and Toby McGuire was coming back, they should have signed Sam Ramey back to a deal. Can you imagine if at the end of No Way Home,

when all that craziness was going on, everybody was losing their minds, I mean, you could put, you could say, I was in an elevator and I was talking about Spider-Man, No Way Home with a guy who farted in the elevator. And it was a six-second video. It does a thousand, a million views. It's the biggest thing I've ever seen in the culture.

of our world. And they didn't capitalize on it. And they didn't say, hey, you know, it's sign raming. And then let's put out a Spider-Man 4 with Toby McGuire coming back. That movie would have crushed. And the timing would have been incredible because while he was promoting Dr. Strange, you could have been promoting it. While Toby's doing Babylon, it's literally lined up.

And then Andrew Garfield's on his GQ tour right now, there's so many things that would have worked. And I think Garfield, I would have Garfield fight. Tom Hardy's Venom before. I'd have Tom Holland do it if you want to do it short term. If Tom Hardy only wants to do five more. years, Garfield. But the reason I would have Miles Morales there is if we lose Andrew Garfield on camera, that's going to hurt our generation. We're going to like, that's going to be so emotional.

I think Tom Holland needs to be a little older before he dies and lets Miles take over, but that would allow us to have Tom Holland. Yeah, Tom Holland. But if you, if you had Andrew Garfield die to pass Storch Miles, then you get a trilogy of just Miles out of the MCU. Let Miles be his own man. Let him, let him thrive. Is Donald Glover going to come back? Hobie Brown is so important and I'd love that. And he is mentioned and, well, I just want, I just watched Homecoming again, and he's so good in it. He's only in two scenes, but he's so incredible. But he's so good in it, and he mentions his nephew and some of the two, which is great.

But, all right, last one before we get out of here, is we stretch a little of, we stretched a show up today. That's my favorite East Rag of all time, by the way, the Donald Glover cameo. His hand gets webbed to the car, and the license plate is his first appearance in the comics. Oh, that's right. I remember you telling me that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Man of Steel star Amy Adams on Henry Cavill's Superman return and a potential Lois Lane reprisal. Henry Cavill made his long away to return as Superman in Black Adam,

but could his Manistale co-star Amy Adams join him in the new DCU as Lois Lane? After years of rumors and speculation, Henry Cavill finally returned as Superman in Black Adams' mid-credit scene and reportedly set to play a major role in the DCU moving forward. Amy Adams debuted as Lois Lane alongside Cavill and Zach Snyder's Manist Steel before going on to appear in Batman v. Superman and Justice League, but will she be joining her Manistee co-star in this new era of DC-based? movies. Adams was asked that very question while speaking to variety about her new movie Disenchanted. The Academy Award nominee shared her excitement for Cavill's return, but revealed

that she hasn't been contacted about reprising the role of Lois Lane. It sounds like she would be open to the possibility, but she'll support whatever direction they go. Let's see, there's actually some audio for this. I'm going to play some of the audio. Ooh, tech. Yeah, yeah, in a second. Oh, there we go. Okay, here's the, here's the audio from variety. Henry Cavill back as Superman. When did you hear? How did you find out? Thank you so much for that. For my husband, actually. Yeah. I'm thrilled for him. He's such a wonderful Superman, so I'm very excited for him.

Lois coming back? They haven't spoken to me about it. Do you want Lois to come? I mean, if it's me, great. If it's somebody else, the role of Lois has been filled by so many wonderful actresses in the past, so I'll support whatever direction they go. Very good political answer. The answer. Yeah, that's the answer you go. So there's always a chance that Adams has been in touch at Warner Brothers DC Studios about a potential return as the Intrepid Daily Planet reporter

and is simply not at liberty to divulge that information. After all, Lois Lane is always going to be a vital part of pretty much any Superman story. And it's difficult to imagine them bringing Cabell back without Adams. That said, quite a few fans have complained about a perceived lack of chemistry between Cabell and Adams over the years. And it's probably fair to say that her take on Lois has proven to be divisive overall. What do you guys think? Would you like to see Adams back in a role, or do you prefer if another actress was cast?

Drop as a comment. All right, so let's say. I think there's a lot of good points made in that one. I think that she, I love Amy Adams. Same. Love Amy Adams. And I think that Amy Adams was not really who I thought of as the, I mean, that's what Zach Snyder did, though,

minus Cavill. Cabo looks like Superman, but he presented Superman very different than you've seen before. You've mentioned that many times. But I think, think that Lois Lane is not, Amy Adams is not who you think of in that perception, right? Sure. I thought she was good, but would I be upset if she was recast? No.

I'm torn because I also love Amy Adams, the person and the actress. She played Mickey Ward's wife in the fighter. And like that's someone I know in real life, so I was so attached to her passion for it. It was, when you see someone that's of her caliber, play someone you know, it's really empowering. really ties you to the actress. So I've always been a big Amy Adams fan and I've always wanted her to do well. But when she got cast as Lois Lane, my first thought was, that's not how I see Lois Lane. I'm excited to be proven wrong. And then Zach Snyder, he's got such a specific universe and he's so, so honed on in his vision, which is one of the things I like about him, but his vision

so rarely aligns with mine. So with no judgment, it's just a different world. I would love to see her be able to come back and play something more akin off of Henry Cavill's joyous, smiling, happy Superman. I don't know if that works with the audience's expectations. If the audience sees them two together again, they're going to tie back to this other world. I think the cleanest way to have Henry Cavill back is recast everybody except Henry Cavill.

I think you need to have a clean slate. I think you're probably right in the same way that even with the composer if they're going to do the John Williamstein. They pretty much put carved a line in the sand with that score. They could. Now, what I was going to tell you, though, is you just recently watched the Donner one for the first time, right? How great is Marco Kidder?

Incredible. She's such a That's the type of flair I want to see from Lois Lane in the future as the character. I thought she was the perfect Lois Lane. And she's such a boss in the comics and she's so smart in the comics. There's such this like maternal but world aware character. She can be small, she can be big. That's something like maternal and world aware. She's everything.

But I never felt like I knew what Amy Adams Lois was. I can't describe that character. That's the writing too. I don't blame the actress at all. I'm saying when I think of the character, it's so many different things because it's off of a scene. If even look at the two cuts of Justice League, those are different characters. And again, on her fault, she's taking direction. She's going off the writing.

But I can't tell you what Lois is doing in Justice League, Justice League versus Justice League Snyder cut in a way that feels like a character. So I think he killed Jimmy Olson. You need Jimmy Olson. Right. Like he killed Jimmy Olson off camera. So like if you're going to build Superman back, you need his supporting cast. So you can't bring back the undead Jimmy and you can't bring back a Lois that felt like

five things. So yeah, I think you recast. Lawrence Fishburn. Everybody. Like everybody, I think it's probably a good idea. I wonder, I'm so curious how they're going to play this

overall with James Gunn. And I don't think anybody's going to is going to argue with it if they recast everybody. I mean, that's not true. I shouldn't say nobody's going to argue. There's going to be a ton of people who argue with it.

But I think that's probably the way to go. I also think that it's the one benefit of how long it's been is recasting. Right. Like, it's awful. We haven't had to handle the Superman lead in so long. It's been, it's been rough. We've all been lobbying for it.

The one benefit is now recasting doesn't feel as harsh. Because these characters have had, you know, had the time as those characters. They've all done a great job. But when other people come in, it's like, okay, this is Henry Cavill's new trilogy. This is his new whatever. It doesn't feel as associative. All right.

A lot to unpack. What do you guys think, first of all, about that story? Do you think Amy Adams should return? Do you agree with myself and Coy here that they should start fresh, new cast, start bringing in some new people, bring back characters that they killed off like Jimmy Olson, other people too? Or should they continue on and try to find a way? Let us know about that one.

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