The Kristian Harloff Show - Will There Be Any Lightsabers in the Andor Series?

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

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Tis me. You're you. I didn't know that already. I'll tell you some of these intros. They couldn't teach you these in college. So good. what's up stuff absolutely killer crushing it right yeah yeah yeah you on me right it's like stuff that people wouldn't even be able to figure out unless you told them but now now we've

we've figured it out um last week we we had Miguel Fernandez on from um Star Wars Newsnet which is a pleasure that guy knows his stuff man really yeah he really does and it's like he's like an encyclopedia knowledge of what's going on with Disney me in general. So it's like, no, he does. And it's like he's, well, that's his job, right? He's got, he's got, he's having to break that down and, and he, and he does it very, very well. And it was a pleasure talking to him. So we'll, we'll, we'll have him back for short. All right. So we wanted to get into some of these questions that came in last week that we couldn't get to. We'll fire right into them. I'm sure if, if there are stories that broke big

Star Wars stories over the past week, then whether I have already done smaller videos on them are ready or will that's how I'm going to have to handle them for the time being but we did that one we did one last week perfect good start all right let's get to eric grooms good start here do you think that star wars is becoming oversaturated watered down in your eyes is the quality suffering at all since they've gone into hyper production so I can see why someone would ask that question um but no and I think that we got this question two weeks ago stuff about you know whether it was in trouble. And this was my point. And someone had, there was like a counter to it. And it was a nice counter, but someone was when I had said that the reason why television, you have more time to,

you have less time to sit and stew in it. Right. So if you didn't like Obi-One, you didn't like the stuff with Obi-Wan, but you love the Andor, that's what you're thinking about and talking about right now. And if Andor delivers for you, like, oh, man, I wish more of the series are like and or I wish more of the series. I wish more of the quality and stuff like. And then there's going to be another show that you don't like and then there's going to be another show that you do like that's the beauty of the television side of it of all the different things that they're telling inside of the world i don't think that's getting watered down what i do think could hurt it though is if there's a lot of shows that keep coming out that are not satisfying to

everyone right so if you have mandolarian mandolary in mandolian season two went over very well with the fans i would say 85 90% of the people that i've talked to in star wars fandom that i've talk to that I've seen in this channel responding respond very positive to the Mandalorian um that was not the case with Boba Fett and certainly there's more people watching Obi-1 but it's seen the most divisive out of all of them but there are certainly a lot of people who love Obi-Wan and there's certainly a lot of people who do not and it was kind of split again I haven't seen that kind of split in a while so if they deliver on and or and they get the audience back again it's it's just like it's this it's a game of thrones it really is

What do you think, Seth, with the saturation? Yeah, I don't think, I think it's too early to tell. Like, we've just begun, begin, and this new era. Just begun. And so we don't really know. I think that there's a fear in that for both Marvel and Star Wars right now. They are announcing a lot, producing a lot, and some of it's hitting and some of it's not for both ends, I would say.

But I think that the and, one thing that was cool about just looking at, different tweets and reactions to the indoor trailers that there were like specific comments that said things along the lines of because of boba and oba and obi one i was feeling a little discouraged with this like new era of shows but this trailer is like really like exciting me and i feel like i feel that sentiment even though i like those shows and i'd like to obi one more than boba i felt like this one was like a return to that deep star wars connection that we have it's very and I also think that we're all on the same page. I mean, for you and I anyway, about Rogue One being the best one.

It's amazing. My love of that movie continues on every time because it is to me exactly what you just said. It connects the most to the original tone and feel of what I fell in love with Star Wars. And then this might do the same. And it's so crazy because this is not the one that I was looking forward to. It wasn't. And now after you see the trailer, it's it's the best trailer. I would say even better than the Mandalorian trailers.

Like the ones like not the Mandalorian season 3 trailer, which people haven't seen. And it's hard to say because you have so much connection to those characters already. But the initial, and I love the first Mandalorian trailer that came out. But this is, this looks like a movie. This is like a full on movie.

Now one point during that trailer did I ever go, like I've said in other ones, okay, that looked a little TV-ish. Yeah. Well, it is TV. Well, yeah, but that's, you don't, be quiet. Be quiet. Yeah, no, I.

It is TV. That's not what you're, yeah. No, something I'm saying. It's not what you're saying. Yeah, I, yeah, this looked like sick. And I, I know it's hard to tell what I liked better, because it's different than the Mandalorian season three trailer, but I'll say this.

There's one shot in the season three Mandalorian trailer that I was like, that looks volumin. and I'm the worst at noticing that. Like I am not as good as other people at looking at that. And with the Cassian trailer, it's seamless. Like I'm like, one shot after shot.

It looked, both trailers looked like a damn movie. And that's Tony Gilway, man. So I'm, yeah, it's amazing how much I'm looking forward to this show now. It's,

and this might be a perfect story to take to television, the streaming, because what Miguel said last week, you know, it's not a character that you're so attached to and that you care so much about, but he can take you through this whole thing. You don't know what to expect. Yeah. And we knew that we weren't going to get K2SO for the first season for a long time.

And I was, I love K2SO. And you do too. Like that's some of like the best Star Wars humor that he, that character brings. And I kind of like that decision now that I'm looking at the trailer because obviously makes sense in the time wise that he wouldn't have been introduced to K-2-S-O but I think like we're revving up for like a very serious

season one. Yeah, I mean, agreed. Now you know, you know what's funny is that I wonder, because we talked about the last week with the canon stuff, they have a, there's a, I think, I don't know if it's called, was it called Cassian, was a call, I can't remember what it was, but it was, there, or it might have just been the K-2-S-O comic book.

I can't remember, but there is a comic book run where they show how K-2-S-W. and or meet and it's canon. So the question is, do they reenact that? Or do they just scrap it and come up with a new way that they meet? So that's, that's going to be interesting once they do because we know he's showing up. I actually agree 100% I think it's much better that he's not in it yet. And I think that it's going to when people are going to be asking for the whole time,

where is he, where is he? How does he discover him? How does he meet him? And then when we finally meet him in like season two, people are going to lose their minds. So all right, let's, let's move on the next one. Will Ezra be in Assook's season one? I think that's a given. Yeah.

Yeah, I think that's a given. What do you think? Yeah, I think that it's only a matter of time that we get confirmation on who Ezra is, the actor who's playing Ezra. But I think there's no chance just it's a rebels extension. So I think that that would be very weird if Ezra wasn't in it. Yeah, because there's no confirmation that it goes past season one. is there? No, I haven't seen me.

I don't know. I mean, it is a series that could go past, like, I think different from like Obi-Wan, it could. As you said, it's just an extension of Rebel, so it could be a second one. But I think more so what we're asking was, will we see Ezra in season one at all? Or is it going to be like the lead up and the mission to find him? And then you finally find him at the end of season one. I don't think that.

I could see where you might think that. but I think I think it's going to be they're going to locate him. I don't think they'll locate him in the first couple episodes. I think maybe third, fourth episode, they find him. And that's also when you finally introduce like Thron and and the adventure of it. That's that's the idea behind it, I would assume. The question no one, you know who no one is talking about it all is Zeb? Oh yeah.

Brought up Zeb. No one's brought up Zeb. No. And I know that he's off. He's off with Callis at this point doing his own thing. Like that at the end of rebels, him and Callis are like buddies. and they're going off to his home. Yeah, because Calus finds out he didn't really wipe out Zeb's race.

And he thought that he did and they're buddies and they're going off. And Zebs, Calas has the long locks. We didn't talk about Callis being in Rho in Cassian. He might, he made Orn Andor, he might very well be in that show too. So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But I would say Ezra's going to definitely show up.

I just think it probably between episodes three and five when he shows up. Yeah, I think we'll get, yeah, I think that makes sense because at Star Wars celebration, we got introduced to Sabine, which was sick. And so shoot, that can confirm that we'll probably see her in the first episodes. And then that makes sense. But I don't think we wouldn't see Ezra. Like, I don't think it'll be more than three episodes. Right. Well, here we go.

We just talked about this. Do we think we'll see K2S. So in and end of season one? No. I say you got about a 5%? chance. I think they even said as much they will. But the only thing though that is different is that there was a put there was pushed back to when the show was supposed to come out because this show was announced before Obi-Won and this everyone thought this show was definitely coming out before

Obi-one and then they pushed it back, announced more seasons, announced more episodes, pushed back filming, did all that. Now they announced that K-2S-O wasn't going to be in it at like D-23 in like 2019 or something or something along it. I can't remember when it was, but it was in that timeline. Um, so they might have changed it up and maybe the end of season one is when you first see K2S. So that's possible that the, that the cliffhanger and the last thing you see is him meeting K2 so that's possible. So it's a way to kind of shoot it into the next season.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's possible or we'll see him in the trailer or something for, for season two. Yeah. For season two. Yeah. All right. Let's see.

Um, this is something we covered last week, but we can go over it again thanados should the bad batch season two we moved on to another day due to conflicts with and or um so my my thought process on it as I mentioned last week is yes I do think they they should move it I think you give star wars fans a little bit of time to breathe in between and door and whatever it might be and even put it towards or even between and or and and and and Mandalorian put it in January sometime if you have to push it back that far or push it into descent or when does Andor?

Andor ends in like November. Put it in November. Whenever it ends, put Bad Batch right there. But if they don't, my point was that the casual viewer is not going to care as much about the Bad Batch Season 2 as much as the Star Wars hardcore fan or an animated hardcore fan is going to care. You know,

so I think that even though I think they should move it, I don't think it's, I don't think it's a detriment to the shows if they do air them at the same time. Yeah, I think animated shows for a lot of viewers, not us, but or not me, but for a lot of viewers is like a palette cleanser after show. So it might be okay for it to be after like a Marvel premiere or a Marvel episode. If you have that, then it might get more views, honestly. Yeah. So yeah, that's that's kind of how we feel on on that side.

So David H. Should we lower the hype on Andor? I remember that everyone loved the Canobey trailers and look how that turned out. Well, all right. So there's two ways to address that particular thing, right? So look how that turned out is remember, I'm on the, I liked it. I dug a lot of it, but I was disappointed. That's where I line.

There are a lot of people who are on the same page as me. There are a lot of people who really liked it where I think Steph lands. Then there's people who loved it. And then there's people who hated it. It was definitely the most like split out of anything that I've seen. Yes, if you browse around on Twitter and some YouTube channels and stuff, you'll definitely see those videos of why Obi-Wan failed and all this stuff. It was the highest rated show that they've done so far.

So, but like I said, I was disappointed. And I think that I would rather them have approached Obi-Wan in the way that that Andor looks in that kind of, if any show should have been bleak, real bleak. and there were parts of it that were, but there were still parts of it that felt, as I said before, TV-ish and a little bit C-W-ish at times, cue the Benny Hill music.

But there's, but I don't think that, you know, when you look at that particular series, as far as hype goes, I don't know. I think that you're right to, you could feel that way.

I understand it. But I think that there's something with Tony Gilroy, and this is a, point that Miguel made last week. He wrote 1,500 pages of a script. It's pretty damn locked in. And this show looks like it knows what it wants to be.

And the difference is it doesn't run the same risk that the last Jedi risk or that, the new trilogy in general risk or the or that Obi-1 risk, it doesn't really have too many characters that you're so locked in and care about their past. And that has that going for them. the same way that Mandalorian had that going for them. Obi-Wan and Boba-Fett did not. Steph, what do you think?

Yeah, I think that was my first thought. I was like, oh, yeah, this is how I was so stoked about Obi-1. And while I did love the show, like, I understand, like, it wasn't like, you know, the best thing ever to me. But this is, but then my second thought was this is different for a few reasons. Like you were saying, it's not a legacy character. it's when I was excited about what was in the Obi-1 series it was just Obi-1 talking like literally and it was like a shot of seeing him watch Luke

and it was a shot of him on tap doing like all like thoughts and shots that I was just excited about this is like a different I didn't know what the story was going to be exactly we obviously knew it was going to be about the empire and being at the most ferocious moment in time with them

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Okay. All right. So let's, let's see where we were last time. Do we hit this one yet? No. Have you read it? And if so, what do you think of the shadow of the Sith novel? Um, so I, I have it. And I'm probably going to bring it on the plane with me when I go on vacation.

Um, you know, right there, but I have not read it. You, you haven't read it, right? No. No, I hear. So PJ Campbell, I'm going to try to call PJ right now. I'm going to see if he gets up. And, and I'm going to ask him about his review of that. Now, while I do that, um, did you start playing nights yet? So I tried to download it on my computer through. Google play because one of you yeah one of you messaged me thank you so that counsel you're the best people about that I could get it for like 999 and it just didn't work though so durina's going to give me her switch I'm going to play it yeah so I'll have a review I'm going to start it maybe there's a way I can live do it with you all I'll try to figure something you can you can try to do it on Twitch and you should be able to do that you should be able to carry it over on Twitch because you're not going to finish it right away no yeah so maybe you start playing it Hey, this is not here.

PJ didn't pick up. But once you start playing it, then what we can do is we can put you over on the Twitch channel. And then you can start. Maybe I can play with you and some of the people can play with you. But like, I'm telling you stuff, once you start playing,

you're going to get addicted to it. No, I know. I was so, I was so ready to play. Yeah. I like, I was so excited.

I set up the vibes perfectly for it. I was like, I'm going to game today. And then it didn't work. than I'm seeing Doreena two days. So I'm going to start it. Yeah. It's started.

PJ's calling me now. Let me get PJ. Yes. PJ Campbell, you're on a Sith council. Oh, hey, buddy. What's going on? Hey, so there's a question that came in about Shadow of the Sith, which I haven't read yet,

but I, but I have, but I remember you tweeting out about it. Did you finish the book? I did. I loved it. Yeah, okay. I know.

I saw the tweet. So tell what did you enjoy about, about the book itself and why a lot of people are saying is one of the best ones yet. So why was it so good? For me, it felt like, honestly, the movie we probably should have had before the Force Awakens. It really operates as episode 6.5.

Everything it's doing, setting up the things with Ray and her parents, and that journey that Lando and Luke went on that is hit it at and talked about a little bit in Rise, it's so good. And it's, there's something that just really starts to put into perspective, the ideas of what 7, 8, 9 are trying to convey, but it didn't really get there.

Like, they're using this book to really put that out there, and it's really stood out for me. And it continues to be just really great. Okay. For that alone. All right. So I'm going to, I'm going on vacation with the family. So I'm probably going to take the book with me. Oh, you have to, man.

I can't wait to talk about it with you. Okay. All right. Yeah. I remember seeing your tweet. I stay away from the books these days because I was like I'm I'm more so. The reason I'm more so a Canon junkie, right? And I like the idea that it,

that they actually play into it. But Lucasfilm has kind of showed they didn't really, they don't care as much about it. And however, even though this one is not really going to ever show up in a TV or movie or anything to it links together some of the stuff, then it sounds pretty fascinating. So maybe I'll check it out.

I think this is the one time. It's actually very much. worth doing it because it feels like they were going look we know that the movies have their own issues and this is the one time they were like this one is really going to matter to the stuff we're doing and you can just feel it like it's being done by people who really actually were like we like a lot of the ideas but we need to flesh this out more it felt like catalyst okay well you got me with that one because I love that book but what did you um what did you think about the indoor trailer loved it yeah watched it i've watched it

three or four times already and it dude number one that gritty boots on the ground feel yeah is the stuff that I really love yeah about Star Wars I really like this period of the rebellion era there's something so great about it and just seeing the real sets again not that I don't love the volume the volume is a great piece of technology and I'm glad but but they're relying on it a little too much too much way too much and so this feels like a nice change of pace like it feels tangible. It feels real and it's really, man, Tony Gilroy, he gets it.

Like, there's a reason he came in and he helped with Rogue One. And I think that you can be here. You're being nice when you say helped. Well, I know, I'm trying to be civil. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He directed, he directed Rock One. Absolutely. But, all right, the great PJ Campbell, ladies and gentlemen,

thank you so much for joining us here today. And we've got to get you on, you know, next time you're in town, you should come on the show. I would love to, man. You know, hit me up anytime and I'll see you very soon, my friend. Yes, you will. All right, Lajun, PJ. All right.

Yeah, say, I remember him, I saw his tweet and I wasn't wrong. He really liked it. So I do want to check it out. I'm curious about that one. Stubby Juan Canobi, very nice. Do you think that the accolite will lead directly to Darth Plague, or is the show changing Plague is to Amandaa Stenberg's character? I think that would be a mistake if they changed.

if they did that that would be a mistake um but i think it could lead to plague us i think that that's the type of stuff that you don't need to do because you're just opening yourself up for more content you know people going back and forth on twitter and facebook and the fans losing their minds when you don't need to do it you set a mandel up to do what they're going to do and set up the character in a way that's a brand new character is the character involved with Darth Plagis and eventually lead to Darth Plagas, that would be great. That would be fantastic.

If that's the introduction into it, and Darth Plagis screws them over, cool. Don't start changing up stuff. Well, that's really who Darth Plagas is now. And that's what it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that because you just, you're opening up a can of worms you don't need to open up. So I hope they don't go down that route. I hope they go, you know, with having Darth Plagas and having.

having Amanda L involved with Darth Plagueis, all for it. Yeah, I agree. It doesn't need to be like this, like, oh, we got you. It's Amanda. Right. Amanda L is actually Darth Plagis. And then inside of that, it's not really Darth Plagas. It's this whole idea of who Darth Plagas.

Well, no, no, no, no, don't do that. Don't do that. No, the Sith for Darth, Degas. And when I do play Knights of the Older Republic, like all that stuff is so dope. Like, they don't need to be. like gotcha like it's already there oh and north plague is inside and this is like from what they said was that george lucas requested that the species of darth plagueus was mewn in the novel james lusino made him immune he's terrifying as mean like if they made plagues immune like that would be

the way to go like and then shifting it to another human again and it's like oof oof oof I don't know. Yeah. And let's stop with the damn aliens with the English accents talking basic. I know there's a few that do it. I get it. But let's stop. We did it.

We did it with, oh, so long. We did that. And we did it with with Freck in, in Obi-Wy-W-W-Y. You know, I got you.

You got Zach Braff, so you wanted to hear Zach Braff. I got you. But it takes away. Put the damn subtitles on for aliens. And it's okay if humans understand it. Hans Solo understood Wookie, right? Yeah.

These days, these days, Chubbock would talk in basic. And how ridiculous would that be? That'd be crazy. What I mean? They stopped doing it. And we don't either put subtitles or we don't need to know and you can interpret through action and behavior.

Or the translator they did, when they did that translator for Bobafet, that was cool. I liked like the hammerhead or whatever the hell he was. but he was when he was the authoritarian when he was talking through the through the voice box that was great i was like okay now that's the kind of stuff oh wow it's the worst it just ripped me out of that stupid scene it was like within five minutes of the movie starting it starts right away and lady proxima sounds like a moron it's the whole scene like that first half of that movie it's so bad

that scene is so bad i hate it um all right nick alexander do you think and or includes any light sabers is this show we finally see Honda so the lightsaber you're going to get a surprising answer for me hope my answer is hopefully not I don't want to see lightsabers in this because now Mike's probably like what what what what what what do you say you don't want lightsabbers in this series no I don't I don't think they're necessary doesn't mean I don't want lightsabers in Star Wars dopey um I yeah for us just light saber like high republic and and accolades should be all over there. But, but this one you don't need it. Because at this point, this is five years before Rogue One. So this is what, five years after the events of Obi-Wan. So you know what? I, because I don't

want to see the Inquisitors. I think that the Inquisitors would make this look weird. Like the tone. Yeah, it's a completely different tone from the inquisitors that they presented in Obi-1. Right. Unless you made them more terrifying. They come up, they come off kind of. kind of goofy in some of the scenes when they're walking through like they were like pets they're not threatening at all in that series yeah i'm with you though on the no light tapers for for and or it's not like i i love lightsaber so it would be fine but i think that it's more powerful in a time where the people have to rise as the people without the help of jedi because they're not even there in the numbers that they would need about them helpful it's not about them

And the only say that you probably see if you were going to is if they brought Vader in again, which I don't think that they should. Or if, you know, they did have an inquisitor, which is possible because there's are running around at that point. So that's possible. And maybe they can paint them in a different light than they did because it was, I just thought they for the most part were pretty wasted in, you know, we were way more effective and scarier in rebels. For sure. We did that one already. Let's get, we'll do a couple more. We've got to do a short show to hear today.

If Rogue One had a Jedi as the protagonist, would fans rank it in their top three. It feels like a lot of people sleep on that movie. No, because I think that what I've noticed with Rogue One is that Rogue One is starting to climb up the ranks for a lot of people because Force Awakens was the one that stole everyone's hearts right away. And there were definitely people who thought it was a rehash of episode four and,

and didn't love it, but it didn't have like any, it didn't have the type of hate and discourse that, that like Last Jedi started to get, which certainly has a lot of people who love that movie as well. But it, it, Force Awakens was the one that still everybody's hearts and minds.

But once, Last Jedi did come out, once Rise of Skywalker, and I said it recently when we did our rewatch, my love for, or my appreciation for Force Awakens has gone down because it just sets up a story for me that after, now I know where it goes at eight and nine,

so I don't really, it's still an enjoyable movie. and it's still but it's just I know where it goes so I it's not the one I choose to watch if I it's almost like you can only watch one of the new Disney era movies which one do you choose I choose rogue one every single time because Rogue one fits in and elevates episode four and and like I would show that to like I did show it to my daughter we watched it and then we watched episode four and it was like picks up right where I left off and it has that gritty feel and it has that tone and the as Steph mentioned before

K2SO's humor is the type of humor that really works for me in Star Wars. And there's not. And so, yeah, I think that more people are appreciating that movie. What do you think, stuff? Yeah, I think that it came out and it was a sleeper pick because like the title and the characters, like, for so many reasons, this was at a time when, like, we were getting legacy characters a lot. And Rogue One was like, seemed randomly wedged. I can see for like an outsider. And for like Star Wars works because you're pulling people from the 70s to now

and like combining generations. And Rogue One is, although it does combine it, it's not what you think it is. So I think that you're right in the sense that like the more people, I've showed it to a few of my friends and they're like they didn't even really know about it because it's not like episode one, two, three. It's just like Rogue One. And then when they watch it, they're like, this is really good. It's really good.

And I think that one. I think that once and or puts out the first like whatever it went when it's completed and the first three seasons like it's going to because they said it leads right into rogue one so that's that's you're going to see the streaming numbers just you know zoom on that movie once the and or see if the ender series develops the way we think it could. Rogue one will pick up tremendously. So, all right, let's close out with a couple here. Do you think we ever get Sam Whitmer in Star Wars live action? And would it just be as a fun cameo extra or could we see him get a legit new fleshed-out character to play? As much as I love StarCillar, he's a talented enough to have many types.

Would the audience accept him in a new role? Well, the audience would definitely accept him in a new role because I hate to keep hammering this point down. But the Star Wars core audience, yes, we have. this core, hardcore fan base that knows who Sam Whitwer is. These are the people who go to Star Wars celebration. They know him a star killer. They know he plays Darth Mall.

It's the casual fans that make Star Wars successful, though, too. It's the casual fans of tune. Oh, there's an Obi-Wan show? I'm going to watch that. The John Pinto's of the world, right? John Pinto has no idea who the hell Sam Whitwer is. No idea. And Sam Whitmer was a very talented, talented dude.

It's because Sam Whitmer has, done, you know, Sam, it was very popular and a megastar in the Star Wars community. But in the outside, he hasn't had that role that, like, if I said to my friends, hey, what do you think is Sam Whitwer? They go, who's that? I go, he plays Star Killer. What's that? He voiced Darth Mall.

He voiced Darth Mall, the guy that just cut in half. No, Darth Mall came back in the Clone Wars. Like, you got to realize we are in a bubble. And so anyway, Sam Whitwer would be, is going to be cast in something. And I bet you it's in one of the Faloni shows. They're close. They're tight. They've been in stuff, whether or not,

Whitwer plays an alien or something too. I think, what was a good looking dude. You should put him in like one of these smoldering roles and let him smolder and let him be. And he can also be an angry dude, you know, so I think that they, and he knows a lot about Star Wars.

Former movie trivia Shmoira on Star Wars champion in the world. But you should put him, you should put him in something. I think he will. What do you think, stuff? Yeah, I think so. I would love to see him in a live action show. He's a great actor, and I feel like he has a lot more to do other than just voice actors do.

Voice actors are my favorite types of actors, period. But it's cool when they can go to live action, especially in the same galaxy. Yeah, that would be great. Okay, so we did that one. And now this one here. Okay, Eric, Freweta. Forerda, do you think we're going to see some clone gentlemen? I'm asked to show up in the Mando timeline.

Oh, I see what you're saying. There's going to be, that's going to be on Grand Admiral Thon's lease like we saw on Timothy Zon's air to the empire books. Right. If not, do you think Ezra might take that spot or see too much of fan favorite? I don't think Ezra's going to take that spot because the same thing. I think you still got to have a lot of people who kind of rely on knowledge of rebels, which you can't go in into these series. You just can't. But what I do hope for, my fingers across that this is going to have.

It's been rumored and I don't know how much Floney a has thought about this if he tunes into the fan base and what they want to see and sometimes go yeah, that's what they say, but it's not something I'm interested in and all So the Thrawn series that was set up by Timothy Zon in like the early 90s that was like the first After Return of the Jedi that was star that was your Star Wars was the people found these novels and those novels were fantastic that was how Thrawn came to be was inside of those novels So once it became Cannes, because it took place, that took place right after Return of the Jedi, and Thrawn came back and from being around any, any battle with Luke and all this stuff happened, and Mara Jade showed up, and there was a whole massive storyline. So once it went Canon, they couldn't bring Thrawn in because they were like, well, where the hell is he couldn't fit in there.

Flonni brought him back, but Flonny put him in during the rebels period and not after Jedi, right? So by the end of rebels, Thrawn is away. Thrawn is gone. So Thrawn is gone after that Jedi period. So if they wanted to, they could adapt that an altered version of the Zon novels

in this air to the empire, big kind of mini-series, almost like end game, Infinity War thing that they could do, building up all the series like Asoka and skeleton crew and Mandalorian and they set this whole thing up and it all and and even Boba fed with the episode with Luke where he says are we going to see each other again we might let him see him during this whole Thrawn thing and set that up as Thrawn as like the Thanos of

this thing now that would be fascinating that is what I wish that Star Wars would do but I'm not going to hold I'm not going to hold my breath. that would be sick yeah it'd be cool because obviously palpatine's like the goat but people don't know about thron and like there's so many other villains to explore further within star wars that like and what i love about thron is that he's like so meticulous and planned out and like he's not rash yeah cold and it's it's like that would be really cool to watch that progress over time like a thanos what you said yeah and especially it was like a mini series that came to a head and you could put young luke in it and you put everybody in at these separate

adventures and you could really have it come to come to head and just do this big massive event and then you could even turn into a film to be honest with you they could make that a film if i don't know but i i don't think it's going to happen i don't think it's going to happen uh it makes me bum here's the last one we're going to do and i know it's a shorter episode today but we just had to had to make it short um Um, I Driver 24 with all the announced projects being delayed, canceled has really negatively impacted my excitement for Star Wars. Do you feel the same? No, because I mean, if you talk about the films, you look at the films that were like canceled.

There haven't been a lot of, I mean, let's see the films that were canceled because there were a lot of films that have problems. I mean, even initially, this, this was not highly as reported, but there were reports that J.J. and Kathleen Kennedy clash a little bit on Force Awakens. There was reports. I don't know how true that is. Um, but there reports. Then the last Jedi seemed to have no problems. Rogue one seemed to have tons of problems because they brought in Tony Gilroy to come in and basically direct the movie. And then there were so many different changes and shifts that they had to make.

So Lord and Miller left solo, but the movie still happened, wasn't canceled. Josh Trank, Boba Fett was canceled, but then they made a series. So maybe they righted that ship one way or another. maybe they didn't it depends on how you look at it um the game of thrones guys benny off and weiss were supposed to do like that original show that that got canceled so that was in that see me that's like the first official cancellation again you could say trank but boba fat happened so um so that's probably the first one then the other one was the patty jenkins one but they still say that that's in development right the tychoatee the video game one is the one that's delayed so i think it's less

about cancellations to me and it's more about you know have a damn plan because it seems like like I think this tyca thing is getting set up for a it's a recipe for disaster I we think it's coming out the end of 2023 I even start writing again it could be coming out it might shoot it in the volume it might do this like again they've learned nothing from from the previous what do you think stuff cancellations and delays don't bother me if it means that they're putting more time and effort into fixing problems, seeing past problems, like creating new things. Like it's better, like, you know, they have all the money in the world in a lot of the

sense and they could use that to just oversaturate, oversaturate, and people will still watch it, but it's like, doesn't make it good. I'd rather good content. Agreed. And we hope we gave you guys some good content today. It is the Sith Council show. It's myself and Steph Sabra. we will be back

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