The Kristian Harloff Show - Will we ever get the truth about UAP/UFO's from the government?
Episode Date: August 22, 2023Join the website here! http://www.thekristianharloff.com The UAP phenomenon discussion continues. Those in congress are trying to get more clarity but there are fights to keep it quiet. There is pushb...ack for another hearing. Will it happen? Are we wishful thinking that this last hearing actually changed anything? Or will the secrets remain? We discuss this, the Truth is Out there special on The Hill, was the plane video a hoax? This and more on UAP Tuesdays with Kristian Harloff, Mark Reilly and special guest Roxy Striar!
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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. UAP Tuesdays, man. We're in studio.
Yeah, listen, this is a, it's crazy what's going down already. It looks like they're pushing to get a committee going so we can get another hearing.
But to no one's surprise, it looks like there's a there's pushback. And there are some people's, there's one senator that said, I don't know about aliens.
I believe it's either man-made craft or angels.
Okay.
That's what we're going to be dealing with.
So, I don't know.
We're going to talk about that.
Riley came in and thought that the Malaysia video was debunked.
I don't think it was yet, but I don't know what it is.
We still don't really know what the hell that Peru thing was all about.
There's been sighting since.
And Roxy watched the entire.
The truth is out there.
segments that they did on the hill,
like a full-on video talking to all the Burchett and Mouskowitz and Luna and all of them, I think.
So anyway, we'll get into the whole thing, the whole conversations that were back in the studio.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It's the big thing. It is Tuesday. UAP Tuesday.
what a reunion we have here today.
My partner in crime on the UAP Tuesday is back after a week off.
Mark Riley.
Hi.
But my other partner in crime, Roxy Stryor is here.
And these two haven't been back on the mic together.
It's been a minute.
It's been a minute since the old school collider live days.
Let me ask you a question.
It's my, my, I get one pass.
This is it.
All right, be careful.
How do you feel about yop for UAPs?
You're going to be a lot.
honest. It's pretty terrible.
It's not landing.
It's not landing. That's the problem
with the UAPs. They haven't landed yet.
So we think. So we think.
But I want to thank attack.
You got to stop doing that.
Whoop. It makes more sense.
All right, we just lost half the serious audience.
No, I know. You know, for anybody
who doesn't know at home, I take it. Since I was
a kid, I've taken this so seriously.
And since 2017, even more
seriously. Like, this is in my blood.
My dad and I, this is like our point of connection.
This is what we talk about every day.
All the time, yeah, it's true.
And it's the only places that are covering it right now, like extensively,
are the Hill and News Nation.
And there's some connection between those.
Yeah, there's a sister station or something that.
And you.
And me.
Well, no, there's way more people on the YouTube's that are covering it.
Local news did it. I tell you, after the hearings.
I was really impressed.
Local news covered it for a little bit.
bit, right?
For a good amount of time.
More than ABC.
True.
Mirror.
Mirror, yeah.
Whatever.
Yeah, that was like 22nd mention.
No, there were a few of them that didn't.
And you got a kind of question why.
And it kind of goes into overall what the main topic, I guess today that we wanted to get
into was the Burchette, who's been leading the charge on this thing, you know, Senator from
Tennessee, I believe.
Yeah.
And so he, he's been trying to put together a committee.
And he made sure he would try to get a.
to McCarthy, try to get it with peace, and he's waiting, but
I had bad feeling about this, guys.
I think it's going to get buried, I think, because
they waited, they thought that the hype. Numerous reasons.
It's numerous reasons. They thought that the hype,
you know, it's like any other thing, the way that
we are as a culture. It's like something hits and something's
trending and everyone starts talking about it.
And then the interest wanes off. They go somewhere else,
and that's what the powers it be are hoping for. They're hoping for the...
I don't think you're right on this.
Okay, I hope you're right. I hope you're right.
I think it might be a long.
journey. However, based on that hour and 20 minute the Hill video that they put out in listening
to all of the people speak on this about what their options are now, even if they get
stonewalled, right? Even if they aren't allowed to put out, put this committee together,
even if McCarthy doesn't respond to them, doesn't say yes. You know why they want the committee,
right? So they can do, so they can get subpoenas and stuff, right? Absolutely. But even if they are still
allowed to have hearings and they're still allowed to do so on location. So what they're claiming
is that they're going to go to the addresses that they've been given and that they're going to
have public hearings outside of these locations until something happens. And I think that that will
actually get this back in the public conversation enough for it not to be able to be silenced.
I mean, I hope that that's true. And I hope that they do stuff like that. The only thing that we can get,
we can go deeper into, you know, the rabbit hole with that conversation because we talked about a lot
last week about Stephen Greer.
And he's a very controversial figure in this.
And I saw a lot of the comments who,
rightfully so, not everybody takes them seriously.
A lot of people do take them seriously.
But either way, his thing,
which I do agree with,
is that if they say, well, here are the addresses
that we were given and we know where we're going.
First of all, someone's going to leak that.
And someone's going to tell.
And then the other thing is they're going to pack up everything.
They're going to move everything that they can.
What Greer said that they should do,
and I agree with this, is you don't say shit.
And when you get a,
when you get a,
When you get a subpoena and you get people on board, you just crash those places and you just get that's how you're going to get it.
Well, those are two different things, right?
No, you're right. You're absolutely right. I'm just saying in general of how like, you know, this is going to kind of get exposed at all.
Yeah, I do think, you know, I'm being a little optimistic right now, probably wishful thinking in some respects.
But as long as we keep making noise about this, it can't go away. It might take a long time.
but they aren't going to be able to hide this forever.
I hope you're right.
I mean, they've hit it for 80 years.
That's probably you believe it, and which I do.
I do too.
The other thing is that the problem is,
when you talk about this,
we use our mutual friend like DJ, right?
Who has watched all the parts of the documentary
wants to come on the show, by the way?
And?
He wants to come on.
He's still skeptic, but he, to his credit,
he wants to come on the show and talk about it now
because he and I had a conversation
on one of the two Fridays ago,
and I said, no offense to you,
but it's hard for me to have a full-long conversation
about these things where you just say,
I don't believe.
Because you're not researched.
You're not researched.
And I said, if you do,
if you watch those five parts and you can talk to us and you,
because he's a very intelligent guy.
Yeah, he's awesome and really smart.
And I would love to, I'd say,
if you watch those things,
then you should come on because I would,
I think it's healthy to have a skeptic point of view for sure.
Yeah.
So he's going to come on.
But the, even before he watched,
the problem is you get so many people kind of like
that and where there's still, no matter how much you have people like looking and you look at
someone like David Grush who's very credible, Ryan Graves, very credible, Dave Fravor, very
credible. But people in the mainstream, they're not looking at that stuff. They just go,
you have foes. Right? It's still, you're still getting that and that is what the naysayers and that's
what the government portion that is trying to keep this quiet counting on. They're counting on
that stuff because like we get comments on on this show all the time and stuff too whether it's
this one or to be fair a lot of people are good you guys should be talking about this it's good to
have this point of view there's a lot of people like really we talked about this is this is what you're
talking about now UFOs when you talk about you know uh fairies and demons and it's like leprecocons
yeah because we're not talking about aliens and we can talk about whether or not we think that they're
real or not sure but that's not what these hearings were about it's not what this is about
What it's about is what is that?
The weird comparison that I find to demons and fairies and leprechauns and all the other things that do get thrown out there is that you guys can all see these photos.
Like there's actual proof that they're unidentified objects.
Now, we don't all have to agree on what they are.
I don't even know that I have a theory on what they are.
I know that I don't know what they are.
But you would like to know something?
But I would like to know.
And that's the weird part about comparing this to the tooth fairy or whatever it is that I keep seeing.
Bigfoot.
So then you explain it.
Because we're all looking at the same images.
So you explain it then.
closest we have is that Sasquatch picture.
Oh, from the 70s.
Like from the 70s where everybody's like, that's Bigfoot.
And for all we know, it could be just a man in a suit.
We don't know.
But Roxy, to your point, I mean, that's one of my biggest points about this is that it's always put like UFOs and UAPs.
and aliens are put into the same genre
as like, you know,
demons and leprechauns and
unicorns because it's all put in that
make-believe world that the movies have
like romanticized over the years.
Like, we just think E.T.
is coming or Gandalf
the Grey is riding down and
elves are going to save him and it's all
in the same category of make-believe.
So we have to break through that. That's
what I think this is. But yeah, we don't
have pictures. And so we
were there in 2007,
when that foot, 18, when that footage was put out there.
And I remember that all of us were like, why isn't this huge?
Why isn't this bigger?
Because that was for me the first real proof.
And that's what we need is more transparency so that we can start breaking through this.
Ah, it's just make believe.
It's the frustration of it, though, too, right?
It's the frustration of you just, Riley and I've talked about it for the first few episodes we've done in this rocks.
And it's like, we think that what's really, I think right now it's something like 48%
of the United States
believes that there's something else
and there's something to UFOs.
That's a big number, by the way.
But what it's going to take, though,
to get that number larger
because there's always going to be a percentage.
The aliens could show up,
sit in their living room,
ask for cheese,
and they're going to say,
that's not real.
So there's always going to be percentage.
However, in order to make that number go up,
what you need,
what we talked about is,
you need like one of those independence dates.
That's been going up. Shared experience.
But like something aware, clear footage.
And I'm frustrated with the blurry footage all the time.
I'm frustrated with the fact that we haven't gotten the satellite released.
And that's what they're fighting for.
Like the satellite images, if you hear what Grush and Ross Colbert and all these people say,
there are clear and even James Fox,
there's clear footage, like clear as day footage from satellites that we just have not gotten.
One of the things that they spent a lot of time talking about on the Hill is about how the classification system works and how way too much is classified.
They even in the Hill, they spoke about how there was a map of a country, like a known country, and they deemed that map to be classified information, even though it's a country that's known.
Like, so much is considered classified that nothing is considered not classified.
They'll just slap classified on everything.
and that every piece of footage that is taken by a civilian of a UAP is then considered classified.
Right.
What?
I know.
How is that possible?
I am a civilian.
I'm outside.
I see something.
I film it.
I alert the police because there's still no system for where to go.
And now that is classified information.
What?
Well, it's like you guys both watch.
You watch some of it, maybe the moment of contact.
Yeah.
A little.
bit.
Yeah.
So a moment of contact, you look at all the stuff that just went down in that one.
It's like all this different things that were taken from the villagers here.
I mean, to me, that's one of the most compelling cases.
The Zimbabwe one is pretty damn compelling.
But the Virginia case is pretty compelling.
Like, the, did you watch the whole thing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
When they show up to that dude's house who was the only other, Soroxy, there was, there were two cops that one of them was supposedly had captured one of the beings, right?
healthy guy in his 20s,
within two days got like an infection in his lung died, right?
The other guy that was with him when they encountered it
was his certificate, the guy's name.
But hadn't given any interviews.
Yeah, I've heard, okay.
Refused it.
They didn't even know where to find him.
So the James Fox and the other,
a couple of other people he was with got footage or got a location for this guy.
Yeah, where he is.
So they went and they show up and the guy starts just yelling at him right away.
He's like, get off the property or I'm going to shoot you.
And he didn't even ask him, he's like, if this is about UFOs, anything to get off the property, I'm going to shoot you.
And James Fox doesn't understand language.
So he's just like, oh, just tell him this is this.
And he's like, no, no, no, we got to go.
Yeah.
This guy hasn't talked to anybody.
And no one's asked him for interviews.
He's been, he doesn't want anything.
someone told him say nothing.
Yeah.
And whatever it might be, whatever it was, but it's just, it's a very, you look at the actual,
and this, what does this guy have to lose about anything to?
Why is he not talking to anybody?
Watch moment of contact, again, just to make your own judgment over it.
You don't have to believe it, not believe it.
It's just a really compelling case is all I'm saying.
He's not talking because it's the same narrative.
It's, you know, you're looked at.
I mean, that's what was another part of the documentary I found and made me think of
Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
That in the director's cut, when they see
the things out there in Spielberg Classic
where they're not showing it, but you're
hearing it, and do you want to report this?
And the pilots are like, no.
Well, I'm not going to report this.
Well, too, look at great to say.
It's going to be, because people then push back at you.
This guy probably knows there's going to be
a million people that want to get the story,
exploit the story, and then there's going to be those
people, and social media being what it is
that could go after him. Why do you want to...
I don't know if this guy was so holding.
No, I know. He's not. Social media in my ass with that guy.
Well, think about what Graves said.
Graves said that at the hearing, 95% of pilots do not report what they see.
And then there's some kind of report from Vegas to something like this, like 1800 sightings in Vegas that you have to take it seriously.
And 18, now, who knows how many of those are BS?
But 1800?
I mean, Roxy, tell me a little bit about, you watched this entire thing.
Yeah.
So what did you, what did you gather from?
It was called The Truth is Out There, and it was reporter.
Yeah, the truth is out there.
UAP, you can watch it on YouTube.
which is how I watch all this stuff.
It's called The Truth is out there.
UFOs and national security.
What are the risks?
And it was really well done.
They had Burchett speaking.
They interviewed Graves, Luna, Moskowitz,
so a lot of different people on there.
And they asked the questions that you're sitting at home thinking, right?
Like what is next here and what does happen with this?
A lot of the questioning is it also about why they weren't able to get in that, this is the wrong term, but like that mini room afterwards.
The skiff, exactly.
Why that happened and also the mental health that was released.
Right, right.
About David Grush.
About Grush that was released and how that happened.
So that's brought up with a couple of different people.
Do you remember what the answers first?
And yeah, so basically what the general consensus amongst these senators is.
and seemingly the people asking the questions too,
is that he has information and they don't want it out there.
And that's why they're saying,
oh,
but he isn't at the right level to be able to speak to you guys anymore.
That they haven't admitted to the fact that they leaked this information about him either.
And it's just sketchy, right?
Like,
if you're not hiding anything,
why do you care if he speaks to the senators and talks about the information that he
has. Why are you guys so afraid? Why won't you legally allow that to happen? Isn't that the overall
thing there? Like, if this was complete nonsense. Right. If it's absolute BS. If it's complete nonsense.
And you're like, all right. They're still talking about it. And we know, they think that they have,
we have something in Mexico, right? Or New Mexico. They think we have something in New Mexico.
Right. Like, and they know the location. They said, what do we have there? I don't know.
Johnny's got his bagel thing that he put there
It's like, fine, let him have the hearing.
It's ridiculous.
Like they're going to find a bagel store.
And it's like, let him have a hearing.
And it's like, why are they trying so hard not to have it?
To discredit him.
And then to say he's not at a high enough level.
He's not classified anymore.
He's not one of us anymore.
So you can't talk to him.
So what?
Does that mean once the president's not done being the president,
they no longer have information?
Like, what do you mean?
That's what happens when people leave their positions or are forced to leave their positions.
They're not allowed to speak on anything anymore because they're no longer in that position or at that level.
The logic is not there.
And it's frustrating to hear them.
It's there as far as cover up.
Right.
It's just when they try to justify it, it doesn't make sense.
And then the other thing that was given more time is that Graves was really talking about what he saw.
Yeah.
Talking about those spheres that we've heard about with the boxes inside them, the gray.
Which is the one we saw.
from 2018 was that was the that was grave's footage exactly yeah yeah right exactly and he's talking
about just how many people he has spoken to and encouraging pilots to start talking to their fellow
pilots about like did you see this because he remembers thinking nobody else is seeing this and not
talking about it and other people probably having that same theory like nobody else saw this so why
would I share it right but then when you start speaking about it it's everybody everyone's seeing
he has a podcast now too that he's been talking he I think he had great
I think he had
Fravor on.
I think he's had a few different people on.
I subscribe to it. I haven't started watching it yet.
Is it all about UAPs?
Yeah. It's just him and experiences and people inside of the whole thing.
It's his podcast.
You can find it. It's Ryan Graves' podcast.
I'm not sure what the name of it is, but it's a,
but if you put Ryan Graves podcast, you should be able to find it.
One of the things that came up, I'm just jumping around,
remembering the things that were relevant, but I'm curious to you guys' thoughts on this.
I believe it was Luna who was talking about this.
I'm not positive on that, though, but they were talking about the switch of UFOs to UAPs.
And I think it was Luna who said that she believes that they did that to be confusing.
That they were, I had been under the impression that UFOs had such a negative connotation, that it was a positive switch.
But now that people who don't know what UAPs are, they see a UAP here, they don't even know what it is,
because they're not even paying attention to it because it's not even something that is sticking.
Yeah, and I thought that was kind of, yeah, that shift.
I don't know who made that call, but it was kind of an interesting thought.
Aren't they saying it was because they wanted to identify it better?
So it's like, you know, aerial phenomenon.
But what's the difference between flying objects and aerial phenomenon?
Well, I think there's, I think there's merit to both.
One's phenomenal.
Yeah, sure.
But I think there's merit to both of them, right?
Yeah, I do.
Because I'll tell you, the confusion side of it, every time I do one of these episodes,
I never just put UAP phenomenon.
I put UAP slash UFO
because people go,
people go, what?
Or Ufo, I guess.
And when they see it,
because they recognize it right away.
But I can see the logic behind,
well, call UAP,
and people don't know what the hell are you talking about.
Maybe it's less of the people getting it in there
and they don't know what it is.
And it hasn't worked, though,
as far as getting people to not watch,
because you look at something as we mentioned
where the hill and news news
nation are the only ones covering it. You can tell why on their YouTube channels, because when
you go and you look at the same stories that every other news thing is handling, right? Their
clipouts are doing okay, fine, but their UAP coverage, 40, 60, 80, 100,000. And that's why
they're, make no mistakes about it. It's another reason why they're covering it for any reason
that people cover the Trump indictments for as long as they do, or they cover the Biden stuff
for as long as they do, because as much as they may
want to cover for the politics side of it, they're also
covering it because it's going to get ratings.
It's a circus. It's a circus. Yeah.
So it make no mistake that they, even though
it's great that they're covering it, they're also doing it
because they're the only two and the same sister
network who are covering it, and they're benefiting
from it. Well, they're cornering the market in that one,
right? They are. I suppose.
Well, because even News Nation has kind of stepped back a little
bit from it because they were covering it
a lot, and the Hill covers it like every day.
Like, they've got stuff on there.
I don't necessarily, I mean, I think...
Yeah, the little clips.
too. Yeah, and I think that the two
reporters are covered all the time, or good
anchors, rather, but
they're skeptics in the way that
they're not watching everything. Like,
you can tell that they're not watching everything. They haven't
done the full research on it. They talk blindly
about certain things, like, well, if I can't
say, how come, like, today one of the reports
was that, you know, Grush said that there people have been
killed, like, during this thing.
And today, the woman, when I was watching,
she's like, well, who?
Someone has been killed over
a threat to release this information,
People have been injured over the threat to the least animation.
Who?
But anyway, she's like, who, who was it?
How come they haven't released the names of who it was?
And it's like, well, I mean, who knows whether.
And there are certain names that have been released,
but they're also, whether it was covered up as, you know,
a suicide or something else that might happen
or it was recorded as a traffic accident or anything to, you know what I mean?
It's like, who knows what happened.
So he's not going to give it.
Or wouldn't it likely have been reported as a military death?
That's what I'm saying.
So, like, so you can't, so you don't, that's why it's classified.
Didn't we hear, this is such a reach, but there was that, those military deaths that we had heard about a couple years ago, right, that had been completely covered up in a different way.
And they were really using the bodies afterwards for one thing.
And they had claimed that they were using for another.
I mean, death coverups have it all the time.
All the time.
They can claim that one thing happens instead of another.
Who is such a bizarre question?
It was such a bizarre question.
Like, as if the person's name would make it.
Yeah.
Right.
Like it's Brad Schmadden.
So we can do the research and find out exactly.
It's like it's not how it works.
That's why there's these skiffs and that's why there's these things.
Maybe they do know the names of them.
But regardless, it's frustrating because they do go back to how we kind of started this conversation.
I just think we're in a place that I don't think there's enough.
I know there's interest more now than ever from the public.
There's no doubt about that.
And it's less, it's still taboo, but it's less tabooish, as it was.
was years ago, but I still think we're still at a place where there's too many of this
and people, like, I can't bring this up at dinner. It should be. It should be a dinner conversation.
Well, I bring it up. Because you have, but your dad will talk about it, right? Like my mother-in
and my dad, and he is kind of switching over into this, like he dug in because I told him, I'm like,
did you watch the hearings? He's like, no, I don't know if I believe that. And then he goes on to
tell me 15-minute story about how he got that UFO picture from like a general. And he's like,
I want to believe that stuff.
I'm like, go look into it.
He looked into it, and he's like, okay,
well, why aren't they releasing
more stuff?
I'm like, yeah.
Because the government doesn't trust the people.
Yeah, I also like to hold the power.
They like to hold the power.
Yeah, and I think that
with anything, I liken this
to the space race with landing on the moon.
It's the same thing.
They want to, if there is stuff
that has been recovered,
they're reverse engineering it.
They want to know what makes it
And they're not going to share that with somebody else because it's going to be antedegious to keep those secrets.
And Russia would do the same thing.
All the big powers would do the same thing.
If a UFO or a UAP landed in their backyard, they're going to dissect the shit out of it to figure it out.
And besides just that, though, too, it's that let's say that they've been hypothetically reverse engineering these things since Roswell in the 40s, right?
Yeah.
And they've known, people inside of this government have known that for the last 80, 70, 80 years, they've known that.
And then they release that information, that they actively have been hiding it.
Why?
Because we thought you guys would be scared.
You know what I mean?
And it's like, we wanted to protect you.
Yeah, the outrage there would be alone.
If you understand, like, as much as it is crazy and, like, horrible that they would keep information if they had this information from the American public or from the world.
world. You get it in a certain aspect because of how much cover up there has been to this
point. Like, let's say if you believe the reports that some of this stuff, some of this technology
could help the environment, could help, could further, you know, technology in general,
and they've been holding it. And then it's like, oh, yeah, we could have, we could, we've had, we
have major advances in medicine that we haven't helped anybody. We could have saved your, your parents.
We could save this too.
That's where the fear would come.
The fear and the anger would come more there than I think of even if they were like freaking, you know, as they say, little green men running around the joint.
I think that one of the things that seems to be common theme here is that it's United States, Russia and China, right?
Those seem to be the places that people continue to say have the access to UAPs have recovered UAPs, whatever it is.
And people continue to make good points where if Russia was reverse engineering this technology, likely they would be using it.
Yeah, of course.
And we don't want to say about our own country, but likely we would be using it right now as well.
So I feel like if we are reverse engineering the technology, if we have UAPs, of course we're trying to reverse engineer the technology.
And if we are trying to do that, we clearly have not made it as far as we need to in order to use it yet.
one of the things that they talked about on the Hill also was that it would be beneficial for them if they were running tests to not share specifically what those tests are, but to share to the dates, which that's happening, so they didn't get as many false reports, right?
Like, this is what we have.
We are running some things.
So in this area, this time is our, whatever it is.
Or you can even release it after the fact, right?
So nobody knew beforehand.
so they couldn't go there to try to steal the technology.
And say, if you saw this on this day, this was our military.
And prove it.
And prove it.
Yeah.
But they're not.
What if that's happened?
I mean, there's that story of the lights and Phoenix and then the jets going over.
And everybody said, oh, they were doing something.
And they were like, no, nothing was good.
There were no maneuvers whatsoever.
Just kidding.
There were.
There were.
Actually, we were.
We sent some jets.
What if they were testing some things out?
I mean, it's not beyond.
I know it can kind of feel like the,
you know, like aliens, but I tend to believe that stuff, but that they're not that far along.
Right.
It's not beyond the realm of possibility that they are working.
They're testing things and seeing things and a portion, a percentage of the unidentified
objects are us.
But that doesn't mean all of them.
Another thing that they talked about, which I thought was a really good point because
a lot of people keep saying, yeah, on the hill thing.
And I know I keep going back to it, but it was a really good few interviews.
but they keep talking about why now, right?
Like, why is this coming forward now?
And I think it was Burchett who talked about how challenging.
It's so weird for me to be referencing these people that in so many other areas.
I disagree with them wholeheartedly.
But here, I'm just like, Luna, you make a solid point there.
It's a bipartisan issue.
That's a cool thing, you know, things that bring the people together.
I really stand behind.
But I think he was talking about how it's very difficult.
for a politician to go against the military
because you're immediately deemed anti-military.
And that is something, and when you're deemed anti-military,
often you're deemed anti-vet,
which is such a stance that none of them want to take,
which is crazy because even like Graves is a vet.
So it's like, how can you claim that these government...
So is Grush.
Right, right.
So how can you claim that these government officials
are anti-R veterans
when they have issues with the fact that there are 13 trillion
dollars missing in our budget.
Three of them, star witnesses are military.
Yeah.
That's what always blows my mind is that these are pilots.
These are military people going on the record, at least the people in the hearings.
And, you know, they're being called crackpots or whatever.
It's like, no, why would they do this?
They're going to ruin their military career if you think that.
So they're actually going out in line.
And most of these people have said, like, yeah, these are threats.
Military would take that series.
Agreed.
Right?
Yeah, for sure.
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You mentioned something about Burchette,
Roxy.
Did he mention it all,
because I didn't get a chance to watch the interview yet.
I saw like snippets.
But did he mention anything about how he has been received?
at all? Like, you know, with, like, has he been getting any pushback from inside of where, you know,
his circle? Have they talked about that at all? Not really.
Something that they did talk about. I think Moswitz talked a little bit more about it was just
that there is this, like, inner trust with, a lot of them are from, like, Florida. It seems
to be a commonplace that people who are on this committee are from, he's from Berchette from
Tennessee, but that they have with, like, even though Republicans, Democrats, Democrats,
there's this inner trust between them that there's not that much pushback amongst your peers.
And one of the things Graves talked about also was like he has not experienced the same things that Grush has
and speaking about where people are really threatening him.
And so I don't know whether sometimes if you talk about how many threats you're getting, you get more.
So I don't know whether it's like a protection tactic or whether really some people are just getting a lot of heat and some people are not.
and that's the way that it is.
He's also in a very different position than Graves is, right?
Grush, because Grush...
Drastically, yeah.
Drastically, because Grush is the, you know, you believe his claims.
He was the guy inside of this organization,
getting this information, finding it out, saying the public needs to know about this.
And everyone's like, no, no, no.
And he's always the only one who didn't see something.
Right.
So it is a little different.
Because for Graves, it's like, what are you going to threaten him with as far as, like,
because I don't know, he's not flying anymore.
And he's doing a podcast, and he's doing it.
Like, there's, there are so many, this is the thing that drives me nuts with people that are like, well, yeah, they still think that it's like, again, as I always say, three like hillbillies behind a shed drinking moonshine.
What's that?
Oh, my goodness, that's an alien.
You know, and it's not.
It's like, it's full on towns.
It's, like, and it's tons.
Me?
I've had mine.
Yeah.
No, we've talked about it so many times.
There's tons of military people, though.
There's tons of officers.
And if, and to be believed, all.
pilots, tons of pilots, you know, that you're trusting your life with when you get in the plane.
Tons them. You're going to be, you're going to trust them. And then we talked about this before.
You're going to get on a plane and go, God, thank you for everything, safe plight. And then, like, I saw
something up there. You're a lunatic. Right. No. Like, and we know they're sober.
Yeah. It's like a bunch of, totally. Yeah. And it's, it's, that's, that's, that's, it's, when you
look at some of these interviews from that's why I just if you are still on that side of
I'm not telling me you you need to believe but to get the information I people always ask me
because I always bring up the five-part documentary in every episode I always get well what's it called
and I it's called investigate UFOs investigating the unknown that's on either Disney I thought
Disney but it's national geographic or whatever but yeah but it's on Disney Plus but I think if
so people are like well I'm in a different country how do I watch it I think if you have like a
VPN, you can find it out.
But, you know, you look at that, you look at all that stuff in the way that that's,
if you pay enough attention to it and you see all the cases and you figure out what's going
on, you look at all of the different, from the 40s to the 50s and the people that are
given the interviews.
You know, it's like, again, it's like, why are they all doing this?
Like, you know, the guy who worked at the base that they came in and, not the base, but the one,
that Japanese flight
with the, there was the one
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, where he saw
and...
It's like 85 and the thing was like following them around.
They said turn around and come back and it followed him.
But the guy that kept some of the information
because the government, when it came in to try confiscate it all,
they didn't ask for this particular piece,
so he kept it.
Watch all this stuff.
Watch all this stuff and just ask questions.
That's the main thing.
Ask questions.
It occurred to me, though, when you were talking about this,
it can be overwhelming,
even for me that believes this stuff to a certain degree.
Yeah.
You know,
and I want to believe in the smoke,
where there's smoke,
there's fire with the hearings and what people have seen
and pilots and all this.
But then,
you know,
you go on UFO Twitter one day.
I know.
And that algorithm then kicks in.
And a few days later,
it's like,
I'm already down the rabbit hole.
I'm like,
what is this?
So I think it can be a little overwhelming
to go,
okay.
Is it baby steps?
I don't know.
But like,
I believe,
in that footage that was released over San Diego,
the maneuvers, the TikTok video, the TikTok.
I always got the used to.
I know, I know.
The Tic Tac video.
Tick-Tuck, you, not Tick-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T.
They had to, uh, during the hearings,
they even had to stop them and say.
Well, Burchett said, just let you know, it's not.
He goes, it's, it's Tick-Tac, not Tick-Tac, not Tick-T,
my kids yelling me all the time.
But that Tick-Tac video, my own experience
of seeing something that is very reminiscent of a T-Tac.
in all the, what people have talked about.
When then you go into UFO Twitter,
then it's like the Malaysia Air,
look at all the things,
and then it just disappears into a portal.
Right.
So that's so overwhelming to step into
when somebody's going like, I don't even believe this.
So you can start with the TikTok video, right?
And then, you know, maybe get a little conversation going.
Because if you go with like,
check out Malaysia Air disappearing by a portal,
by aliens. You know, that...
Well, we'll talk about that.
It's a little bit...
A little hard bit.
Of course it is. So the layman person, I feel,
is up against all those videos of people
that are like, want to believe, and, like,
have proof in this, and then you wade through that,
and then there's this, and there's that, and then
there's Steven Spielberg's War of the Worlds.
Right. In the same breath.
So it can be a little something.
Do you guys find there to be
an interesting thing about
society though that
with religion and new AP
it is kind of wild
what some people are willing to believe and what some
people are not willing to believe and where that line is
I think that's a huge part of it too
it's kind of confusing sometimes
what I just said in the opening how the one
senator said that he doesn't believe that it's aliens
but he believes he believes his angels right
right he believes his angels he said either
angels or machinery like you're going to say I
just don't think, again, not listening.
I just don't think that aliens would have the technology,
we would go light system from planet to planet to planet
and not be able to figure that out.
But Archangel Michael.
But I'll tell you this, though.
I don't think so either.
I don't think that, I really, the more and more,
the second David Grush, and again,
as I mentioned, I want to make it very clear,
to me, this show, what we're talking about here
is more so about information and let our imaginations
go wherever they could go.
after you hear certain things believe what you want to believe.
You're about to talk about the interdimensional travel.
Yes.
Yeah.
Because once he mentioned that, I said to me, if Ross Collar was talking about it,
if you look at it in physics terms, when it comes to quantum physics
and when it comes to what Einstein said and these things,
it's more likely that if these things were here in traveling,
it's more likely that they'd be able to figure out how to maneuver through space
in time inside of their own, inside of a dimension, as opposed to traveling light years and light
years, light years away.
That's harder to do.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, for us, it's impossible to do any of it.
Yeah.
But technology wise, but if they're able to do that, Nevota can go back and forth with, in three
dimensions, that to me is more, and again.
There are more theories based in, scientific theories based in that.
Yes.
It sounds like.
It sounds like, and then I created the warp drive.
Yeah.
And made contact with the Borg.
You know, that's what it is.
I talked to, when I was talking to Winston,
so people who are brand new to the channel,
Winston Marshall is one of the hosts
on the show on Friday.
And we were talking about this,
and I brought up that theory of the,
yeah, well, they say, you know, interdimensional,
this and he said, come on, man.
And I'm like, because that's, it sounds science fictioning.
Yeah, but I just always, here's a thing.
I believe in, I am a believer in science.
I don't know how to do the things
that we have in technology today, right?
If you show, if iPhone ceased to exist and you're like, rocks, do you have to create an iPhone?
I wouldn't be able to do that.
I don't know how to do that.
I don't know how to do the things that we have today.
But more so, I know that if I was a cave woman and you showed me an iPhone, I would think it was magic.
Right.
Because that is absolutely ludicrous.
Capturing pictures.
Correct.
So do I, can I say here and tell you, I understand interdimensional travel?
I could explain it to you?
Absolutely not.
But can I say here and tell you, there's no way that's real?
No, of course not.
because first of all, I'm mere mortal.
Here I am.
The last time I took a science class, I was in 11th grade.
Like, that isn't my area of expertise in the same way that I couldn't invent a vaccine.
And I couldn't, like, there's nothing I could do because that's not my genius.
But I believe that it's possible because I believe a lot of things are possible.
Does that even mean probable?
Maybe not, but possible.
It just makes so much more sense than light year travel.
It just does.
Now, that's not to say that this still also,
I'm not saying that they,
maybe they figured out a way to do that.
I think that's possible as well.
Again, not probable.
Maybe in a thousand years we might be talking about,
you know, interdimensionality as real and light years as the next step, right?
It's like, oh, we beat this.
I mean, same, same deal.
We're going to go land a ship on that rock up there.
Kiss my ass, you are.
Like, like said, like Jack the Ripper at that.
at the time, you'd be like, what?
No, I'm gonna, like, that's my point.
Like, these advancements in technology,
we don't know where they'll be in.
No, and we could be cavemen compared to them.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I'm sure.
Less.
If they're interdimensionally traveling,
we are cavemen.
They're looking at us like, huh.
But that's what it is.
They could be right there.
We don't know.
And they're just like,
100%.
But that's what it is.
It's that this is what people,
this is the hubris of the human being.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And I always said,
I said,
I said,
it said,
that a joke. I was doing it. The night that you came to see me. And I said, everyone always says,
well, it can't be because we think, we think we're the smartest. And like, you ever think
maybe once? Just, just maybe. We're the dumbest. Right. We're the dumbest. And they look and, like,
when you drive down the highway and you, if you're in Florida or Georgia, wherever you're,
and you see cows and they're just chewing on the grass, just doing their thing. That's a life, man.
That's what, but that's to them. Maybe that's what we do. Look, look at the stupid human
shooting each other again. And they're, and they're going to, they're going to, they're, they're going to,
But once we almost blown ourselves up, that's when they go, wait a minute.
I don't think it's a coincidence that these reports of the UAPs flying over nuclear sites many times over, studying them.
And when did that start happening a lot?
1940s.
Right after the atomic bomb, testing.
After the testing, that's when they jumped up in appearances and sightings.
There's probably a lot of reasons for that too, right?
our ability to detect that
maybe the proximity that they
had to us and also, yeah,
because World War II.
All of that. Yeah.
All of this to me can be
explained, even though
I cannot explain it.
Someone has the answers. Right.
Someone has the answers.
And it's not us. Or on the track.
So it's important to ask the questions
because if we don't ask the questions,
we absolutely will never get the answers.
How frustrating is it that everything
we've talked about,
someone knows either the answer of, well, that's exactly what happened, or
guys aren't even close.
Yeah, I think that's what kills me.
That's what at night I think about is so wrong that this power trip, because it can't just be
about keeping us safe.
Of course not.
It's not that.
And the fact that there are people that yes or no, that they could be able to do this,
but they just won't tell us.
Right.
Or maybe they're not sleeping.
Maybe they know everything.
and they're just up at night going because it's so overwhelming.
Sure.
I mean, look, there's so many different theories and so many, like you were talking,
I thought very well said before when you're on the, like the UFO Twitter
and you're looking at UFO stuff on YouTube and you listen to all the different theories.
And if you listen to one Stephen Greer interview, your mind can go into you in X-File City.
I mean, this guy says that I know a guy that says,
if you can imagine anything that's ever happened on Star Trek, it's been invented.
And then you're like, then you're going into super sci-fi realms and you can see why
if someone popped into that, like a DJ popped into that.
Like, come on now.
Yeah.
It's tough.
And there's also some, I've gone down the UFO Twitter rabbit hole and I see these videos.
And I go, oh, well, and then underneath, this is a, yeah, a CGI video that was so-and-so made in this.
And it's like, they look real, which brings me up to my another point.
Where we are, as you were mentioned before, Roxy, like the cavemen who were shown the iPhone.
And they're like, oh, it's magic.
It's like if you go back to 1940 and show somebody Independence Day,
they're going to think places were really attacked by an alien ship
because the CGI in 1995 was significantly better than it was back then, right?
So how it is today, and you can do all these things with the computer
and all the different things you can make on Instagram and TikTok and all that.
You can make videos.
You can do this.
That's why it's so much easier now.
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All right, Roxy, did you see any of this stuff that these videos that came out about the Malaysia thing?
Yeah.
What do you think?
Well, I wanted to hear from Riley first.
Sure, sure.
He seemed.
Skeptical.
Yeah, I would say at the very least.
And I'm not, I don't think you're wrong.
it's hard to know.
It's hard to know.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know I saw it.
And the first thing I did was I went, ooh, hmm, you know, like, oh, this is.
And then it was just, it just kept popping up in my feed.
Yeah.
And everybody's two cents was being added.
And then I saw James Fox.
James Fox said, that's as real as a $3 bill.
And I was like, yeah, you know, that's kind of how you felt.
Yeah, I guess it was the reaction.
It's like, you see it on.
online and you're like, okay, that's, you know, interesting theory. It's really scary. It would scare the hell out of me because I hate flying and just think that there's, you know, ships flying around you and then you're pulled into a vortex. That's, no. But then everybody responding, this is like, that's what I think was hard. This has just been declassified. That was what everybody was saying. This was just leaked. It's just been declassified. And that is the amount of, uh, uh, uh,
confirmation people need.
Oh, there it is.
It's real.
And that's what gets me so.
Then it's just this, just nonsense.
I just don't like,
I don't like how it hasn't been addressed by anybody.
That's where my skeptic brain comes of it.
Because it, for Chad hasn't talked about it.
Like nobody's, nobody's talking about it.
And then I actually, so.
To give that oxygen though?
I mean, maybe that's the reason.
If it's, if it's fake.
Right.
Yeah.
That's if it's fake.
Right.
So, so that's kind of my point.
That's why I don't put a lot of
it into it, although it's a very scary video.
I mean, it's done.
It's terrifying. It's done and it's terrifying.
I said, I think I said it last week, if I ever wanted anything to be debunked, it's
that video.
I don't want that to be real.
I feel a lot about all the things that people are like, how could you believe that?
Yeah, but this one is, this one's so creepy.
So people who don't know, there was the flight in Malaysia, what year was that that happened?
Remember what happened?
Yeah, it disappeared.
It disappeared.
It was 24-10?
Oh, let me look.
No, I think early, maybe 2011.
Let me look.
Okay, I think you're right.
Either way, flight in Malaysia just disappeared.
They don't know what the hell happens.
There's a whole thing on Netflix about it.
They don't know what happened to it.
They have no idea.
And some people actually think it could be a Netflix promotional kind of thing,
but that would be pretty shitty to the fans.
Wow, that would be a pretty shoolemed deaf at all.
There's no way, right?
No, no way.
But either way.
So basically what happened was that this flight in Malaysia disappeared,
and nobody knew what the hell happened to it.
it. They tried to like pretend like parts
of the plane. You're like 2014.
2014. So they tried to pretend
that like parts of the plane landed
and they found it and they're like, what are you
talking about? This isn't part of the plane. This is
what, this thing just disappeared. They have
no explanation to why it was.
So now fast forward to right after the
hearings, like last week, this video
came out and it's this kind of
infrared looking video. There's two
angles of it of this plane kind of going
through and then there's this orb that goes around
it and then there's another one.
It's like three of them.
There was three of them.
We played it on the show last week.
We want to check it out.
And they start circling around it,
and then it goes through the clouds,
and then it looks like it's just like forming in the circle,
it bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, and then boom.
Everything, the three orbs in the plane just vanish, right?
So when you look at it, you go, oh, that's fun special effects.
And the funny thing is so to let everybody know,
I had an opportunity.
I wrote to James Fox about, I DMed him a while ago
to try to get him on the show.
Send me his email.
trying to book him on the show,
and then he sent me his number to try to book him on the show.
So we kind of going back and forth
and trying to figure out when they get him on.
It didn't work out yet.
I'm going to keep trying.
But I had to text him about this.
I knew that I was like, I had his number.
I normally don't do that.
I'm going to book somebody.
I was like, I got to get his thoughts.
And it's before he tweeted out that $3 bill comment.
And I said, I don't know, man.
I'm not buying this one.
What do you think?
He goes, I think this is coming out to distract us from Grush.
is what he said.
So he clearly, and then his tweet came out,
and he was like, yeah, this looks about as real
as a $3 bill.
So no one's really talking about it
in the serious, like you don't hear caller talking about it,
you don't hear James Fox talking about it.
But to be fair also, James Fox
was very skeptical of the Varsignia case
before he took it.
He didn't want to do it.
He thought it was bullshit.
And then he started doing research on it.
And I forget the full story of it.
somebody who was really prominent who told him to check in.
He's like, not this thing again.
That's the Brazil.
That's the Brazil.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because he didn't want to do it.
He's like, he's like, I keep getting, because he didn't even, he didn't even included in the phenomenon.
Uh-huh.
Because he was, he just, he doesn't, he didn't believe it.
So he does, he's not one of these guys that just blindly believes everything.
That's, that's kind of where I am.
Yeah.
You know, I want to believe that the major thing, you know, so I know never to fly again.
They know that intermentmention, that proves the interdimensional is pretty quick, huh?
Yeah, and that's kind of where I would believe it more.
It looks real.
It looks legit.
But it just, it becomes this thing online that, you know, it's like, this is legit.
It's classified.
It's leaked.
It's like, well, which is, you know?
Just go down that rabbit hole for one second, though.
So you're on the flight.
Yeah.
No, God, no.
And then you're somewhere else.
Right.
Okay, that I could go.
As long as it's, yeah.
You want to get really creepy.
I was going back and forth with the attack Peter about this.
This is where the science fiction brain comes in.
Yeah, I'll go there.
What if to them they didn't, they didn't, nothing happened.
It just, yeah, they just kept a push.
What if, what if that happens to you every day and you have no idea?
Multiverse.
Well, just every day.
Just one branch.
Or the words, they end up somewhere, something happens, whatever.
They all landed safely.
And they're all sitting there thinking, like, they're never going to know where we went.
Well, they went to Zardnogne 9.
Remember, there was that whole thing we did on this channel.
I think, Roxie, you've been part of this conversation
where you said, like, where do you go when you die?
And there's some theories that you don't die.
And there's some theories that you just keep on going
into different multiverse and different, like,
if I dropped out of a heart attack right now in front of you guys,
you guys would see it, but I'd be like, oh, I was a fucking,
either that or I recovered somewhere else, you know?
And it's like, again, this is all,
this is science fiction talking.
This is all crazy.
Not craziness necessarily, but just who the hell knows type of thing.
That's what this show is in general,
just to kind of go down, as you were mentioned,
Like what the hell?
Yeah.
I go there all the time.
But I think though, isn't that the fascinating thing about all this?
Yeah.
It's because it's the idea of if there is, and that's what we want to know.
We want to know if there's life outside of just human beings.
And we want, and like, that would be the frustrating and really sad thing about it.
And something that I wouldn't put past, unfortunately, the human race in doing is to feel like there's a select view who get to hold the knowledge you don't get to know.
Which is what it is right now.
Exactly what it is.
my biggest fears in life, and this is no joke, is that I'm going to die the day before this
information is really.
God, Roxie, I just had the same exact thought the other day.
Because that will be devastating.
It's like, imagine the Red Sox fan.
Right.
It died in like September of October 4.
All I, this is consumed so much of my brain.
And I know what we know is that one day it's going to come out, whether it's by the U.S.
government or by something
something will come out one day
could be in a thousand years could be in a day
what's on the other side
no she's just saying the information
information is going to come out about what
these UAPs are about
interdimensional travel about aliens
about something that come out one day
and if I am not here for that day
wherever I am I'm not happy
But listen, if you, James Fox was talking on something, he thinks a lot more information is going to come out, a lot more things are going to come out next year.
I don't know if he's how he still feels about that.
I have no idea.
I am, I am becoming a skeptic when it comes to that.
Yeah, you and my dad both.
My dad's been telling me he's like, buckle up.
This is a 10-year journey minimum.
I'm like, ugh.
If that, I think that if you're holding something for 70, 80 plus years, you're not just going to start going, all right, gig is up.
Jig is up.
But let's let's let, let's let all the information.
information out now.
They've been kind of holding it, though, with very little pushback, though, Christian.
I don't know.
It's been, they had a hearing like this, not as big, but they had a hearing in, like,
was it 2004 or something like that, though, some of one of the Leslie Keene kind of,
oh, yeah.
There's a two and three, 2007, something like that, but they, they've been, they've been
trying to get information out there for, for a while.
I mean, they, they really have.
It's, they've been, it's just now with the advancements of technology and social media and
There's more people with a pocket phone
that they can catch something
out there. And as much as I hate Twitter,
as much as I hate Twitter, it's been
super beneficial for this. Somebody caught something with a drone.
Yeah, whatever.
You know, somebody was flying their drone just over
their house and three things
went, and he slowed it down.
I go, that's everyday stuff.
That's just one person with a drone on an afternoon,
and so you get that person,
you get that footage.
But now that footage is classified, considered it.
Right, yeah.
Wow, it was on Twitter X.
Yeah.
Well, do you think that's also what it is rocks?
Do you think that maybe they're, because of the advancements and technology that the people,
these powers will, are like, eventually.
Yeah.
Just somebody's going to get something.
I think it's 80 things and I think that's a big part of it.
Yeah.
How long are they going to be able to lie about this?
Or if you want to use a nicer word, cover this up.
Right.
It's true.
I don't know.
I mean, because like, then you get all the, like, I thought it was just Stephen Greer that was saying this.
because, and then I saw something else,
this was on the hill.
They were interviewing a guy and even,
and I should play a little bit of the audio,
I'll play it in a second.
But they were talking about,
Greer was the one who said this,
because of the reverse engineering
and because of the stuff they've been working on,
that they, and this other guy said the same thing,
that they think the next step is gonna be
that the government will be staging
like a fake alien kind of invasion
to make it look like,
like that's the crazy, like that's, that's what's,
that's where you get into the science fiction stuff of it, right?
I don't know what to make of the Mark Millie side of this,
but is that seem to be
where we're going here. They're going to try to push for this idea of a fake alien invasion as some
sort of a cover for disclosure? Well, that seems to be where they're heading because the UAPs
that have been cited and discussed in Congress and in reports have always done in the context of
them being some unknown national security threat. And Millie is on board with that. He's saying,
yes, the UAPs are real. They're a national security threat. We need to put attention on that.
But he just says what Grush had to say about them in some way being related to these retrieved, non-human craft,
and that people are being injured or have been killed for revealing the truth.
Now, that is something that Millie has pushed back against.
So, you know, we do see clearly that there are people within the Pentagon,
going all the way up to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs,
that want the public to think that UAPs are a threat, but that's it.
So they think, like again, they want people to think that's a threat.
And that's not, he's not even know that it was, but the Millia or whoever this guy is,
there's a few of these different reports.
But this is like what we're just talking about, right?
This goes into that, like, just tell me what it is before we start going into alien invasion stuff.
I don't know what you mean?
It's like, wag the dog thing.
It's like, you know, okay, we need to cast the aliens now.
We need to short people.
Right.
Okay.
It's also okay to only have part of this story.
If you don't know the whole story, like,
I would be okay hearing this is what's happening.
We don't know if they're here for recon or to help.
We don't know.
And that's okay.
That's okay to say, right?
I don't know.
And very likely you guys have more information than me, but you should share what you have.
And that doesn't mean sharing technology that somebody could use it against us.
Right.
Totally.
And that makes sense.
But do you guys have crafts?
Right.
Do you have?
not human material in your possession?
If you do, I just don't understand
how it could be detrimental to the world
for us to know that.
You have that. You know, tell us that.
You don't have to tell us that they have
also the remains of a ray gun
the size of 30,000 sons.
You know what I mean?
Well, I think the other report...
We've got to figure that one out.
I can't remember this was something
that I think James Fox was on, but if someone
I think it was. I was on an interview
and they asked him about this and they said that
what would be the big thing?
about he was interviewing some guys
like he was multi-millioner or whatever it was or
someone who's very in the
know with all the programs and everything
too and the guy was like told
James do you understand
that if this got out
the panic would be
see that's what I wonder
and then the question is like
why would why would as
Roxy said what would be the panic behind it and everything
too and it's
goes back to the earlier question as far as like
religion and as far as
all that is imagine
whatever the answers could be
that everything you thought you knew
about your existence
what you were told all these things
it wasn't it was something completely different
now I don't know if that's the case or not
I'm just saying what if that
and it was like that is a particular thing
where no
that that particular
that who you believe
that's not accurate
and the same way that
the Romans or the Greeks believed
in Zeus and this and that and they stopped
for some reason, right?
Well, we're showing you this, and we know the information is this.
Again, all hypothetical stuff.
But imagine that.
And if your whole life was based in a different type of faith,
and someone was telling you that that faith isn't real because they know what is.
But going the next step from that, Christian,
is the concern then that will cause people to be indecent?
Because if...
I think it just changes you.
Yes, of course we change you.
Yeah, because it's like, why would you want to pay...
Why are you going to pay rent?
Why are you going to pay taxes?
Why are you going to do this stuff?
And you know there's a bigger thing out in the world.
I think the reaction wouldn't be good.
I mean, based on the evidence.
It might be great.
Right now, I think a lot of people are trending in a direction that I don't prefer anyway.
I think we're seeing more and more indecent people out there.
So would this change things?
Yes, but who's to say that this changes things for the worse?
Maybe this makes people know, like, we are.
we are so small.
Right.
And all you have is this life.
Or maybe it makes them know there's life after this and you know what.
Do the best job you can hear, but just be hopeful for the future as well.
Like there could be benefits to this.
And I understand that people are going to have different reactions, but you're not allowed
to hide the truth just because you're concerned how it's going to impact people's feelings.
That's true, too.
Well, again, when you've been doing it successfully,
for, you know, 70, 80 years.
That's hard to convince someone.
Yeah, completely.
And I could be, jokes on me, I could be dead wrong.
They could announce what happens
and the world could go into absolute hysteria
and it could be the end of the world.
I would rather that.
But then...
I'm telling you, I would rather that.
I know.
That's how I feel.
I'd rather find out the truth about any of it,
whether it's, again,
if it was what they're saying,
if they're like, look, here it is.
Here's the actual footage that we have.
This is all the stuff that we do have.
Here it is.
it's nothing guys or yes in 1940 something we found something and we've we've been flying the thing
around we've been trying to figure out how it goes and um we haven't seen or heard of shit since
yeah and it's like okay well let's start asking questions let's start changing because it because it will
bring it will bring a lot I mean just just from these questions that have been coming up for people
who watch some of these docs and wait a minute like that's what that's how I fell in all this
yes when we saw it back in 2018 the three of us I was like whoa that's got to be more than than meets the eye here
but I was still kind of like thinking like you know you never know yeah but that five part series
changed it on me like it just changed on me because of all the different military people that
were reporting it and talking about these weren't just people there was so many different people
like legit people that convinced me now I'm not telling everybody else I have to go down that road
but that's just how I feel.
And that's why we do this show on Tuesday.
Me?
Yeah.
So what do you guys think, man?
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