The Kristian Harloff Show - With New Age Of Disclosure Doc Will UFOs Become Mainstream?!

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

The new UFO documentary Age of Disclosure finally has a release date — but will this be the moment UFOs officially go mainstream? Kristian Harloff breaks down everything we know about this highly anticipated doc and what it could mean for the next chapter in UFO and extraterrestrial discussions. Plus, we cover the biggest stories in movies and pop culture: Glen Powell possibly joining Marvel as Nova, Black Phone 2 dominating the box office, George Lucas' comments about moving past Star Wars, and Mark Ruffalo's continued interest in a solo Hulk film. #UFO #AgeOfDisclosure #UAP #Disclosure #Marvel #GlenPowell #Nova #BlackPhone2 #StarWars #GeorgeLucas #Disney #Hulk #MarkRuffalo #MovieNews #KristianHarloff #TheKristianHarloffShow #EntertainmentNews #PopCulture #Movies  Topics include: Highly anticipated UFO doc gets release date for streaming & theaters Glen Powell suggested for Marvel's Nova Black Phone 2 rings loudly at the box office George Lucas says he's "moved past Star Wars" after Disney's takeover Mark Ruffalo still keen on a solo Hulk film Sponsors: RUGIET: Ready to level up your confidence in the bedroom? Head to http://www.rugiet.com and use my promo code KRISTIAN for 15% off your first order. Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at http://www.trueclassic.com/KRISTIAN! #trueclassicpod Live Better Longer with BUBS Naturals. For A limited time get 20% Off your entire order with code KRISTIAN at http://www.Bubsnaturals.com

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Dan Farrah who's worked closely with Steven Spielberg it's a documentary called age of disclosure about the UFO UAP topic that normally I would cover on my other channel but it's starting to get more and more notice from people and just general I had not only did I have a friend of mine who she's not part of this, he never pays attention to this topic, was texting me, say, hey, you hear about this? And I've known about this quite a while since it debuted on South By. Roca posted about it, and I, as I said on my video,

I don't want, and I was a hypocrite, because I don't like going after people on social media. I don't think I went after him, but I said to him on the social thing. I said, you're not as educated in this. And so, said, hey, I'm educated. I've been paying attention to this thing for a bit. And I said, well, on contrary, monfriere, I'm talking about the last three years

inside of politics and they said, what are we doing this on social? We do a show every Monday together. Let's just talk about it then because now it's relevant. So that's what we're going to do. But a special guest is going to join us for that segment. My good friend, Attack Peter will be here to discuss. We'll have an open discussion about it.

And the question really is going to be, it's not going to be a debate, really. It's going to be more so of, and Roka will probably have his opinion on this too. Is it going to have any impact on the regular person? watching it? Is it going to do essentially what it did for me three years ago, this one documentary I saw, and I started paying attention to it more? Is it just going to be one of those things that comes and goes, which is also possible. So we'll discuss. And then we're going to jump into the regular movie news. And we've got, we got the box office, black phone too, doing pretty well. Rokos saw after the hunt. Very curious. I saw his review. And we're curious, we'll talk about that movie.

Didn't do very well in the box office. I'll tell you that. And a few other things. Glenn Powell suggested for Marvel's thing. George Lucas says he's moved past Star Wars. And Mark Ruffalo still wants to see a solo Hulk film. So that and more on the Christian Harlov show here today with myself, John Roker, and special guest Attack Peter, at least for the beginning. Let's get into this shit.

What's going on? Everybody, welcome back to the Christian Harlov show here today on this Monday. I hope you guys had a great weekend. joining me as always on Monday as my good buddy Mr. John Roker. What's up John? How you doing? Hello, how are you, man? How's it going? How was your weekend? It's good so far, man. It was good so far. Did you see, I don't know if you saw on my video on, when was it on, I don't know, on the UAP channel. I said, this is what I said.

I said, listen. Oh, we should have been in there. Okay. Well, yeah, because I saw your post. And I responded to your post. Well, we should read my post. Oh, do you think? Yeah, 1,000%. We will do just that. Oh, go ahead. And I saw your post and I said, and then when I saw it, I responded.

So go ahead and read your post out what your post said about the, about the actual topic of. Yeah, the trailer was posted by discussing film. And I said, cool trailer. Cool trailer. That's the first thing I said. Yeah. Could be bullshit. Could be true.

I just don't put much stock in any dock that contains a spineless mark rubio or conspiracy nut Anna, Paulina Luna. as quote experts on its subject matter. I don't believe we are alone in the universe. But until hard and concrete evidence comes out that aliens and UFOs landed here and our government covered it up, I will remain skeptical as should everyone else.

Remember, documentaries can be quite manipulative when they want to be. That was my post. I don't disagree with a lot of that. It was a fair post. I didn't say it wasn't fair. My disagreement came with the, and I said this, what I didn't make clear enough

in the response. Because initially I said you're not as educated in this in this topic to which you rightfully responded. Hey, you've only been into this for three. I've been paying attention for a long time. I didn't mean the topic of UFOs in general. What I meant was because things move fast in this and what has moved significantly from the last three years is how much the government has actually gotten involved. And what I was talking about as far as education went was more so that yes, maybe so in that. trailer, you do have one side of the aisle that is featured pretty predominantly. However,

in the 2023 hearing and other things, you had AOC Garcia Schumer is leading the charge based off of what Harry Reid wanted to do. It's a very bipartisan topic in general. But let's read the, I want to read the article itself about the announcement of this because that's what, what this is pertaining to and why it's relevant to our show. And then we're going to bring and attack Peter. So let's bring in this. Hello? Why are you there? Get out of here. Why am I here? What's happening? What's that just happening? This is unbelievable. Come on, Luke. I always blame Luke where I don't know. That's not it. I think this is it. There we go. All right. It's always poor Luke's fault. You know, he does everything. Okay. So Buzzy UFO doc,

the age of disclosure lands VOD streaming date on prime video. The film will also get awards qualifying theatrical screening in L.A., New York, and D.C. That's big news, too, especially considering it's probably trying to go for like a documentary award or something along the lines, too. That's why they're putting it out, right? So, where is? Okay, the age of disclosure by filmmaker Dan Farrer features on record interviews with 34 current and former senior members of the U.S. government, military, and intelligence community with direct knowledge of unidentified aerial phenomena. Film contends there has been an 80-year cover-up of the existence of non-human intelligent

life and a secret war among nations to reverse engineer UFO technology. Film comes amid a series of headline-making bipartisan congressional hearings on UAPs calling for transparency about what the government might know about non-human intelligent life. Ever since South by Southwest, Rogan has been a vocal supporter of the project, gaining distribution, repeatedly urging streamers to pick up the film. It's amazing documentary. I really hope that this gets released somewhere big, very well done. They think this documentary is going to break the dam.

It's pretty intense. Holly reporter's review was more skeptical. The age of disclosure tackles its topic with utmost certainty and sincerity. Its interview subjects treating everything they say like it's established fact, not requiring corroboration or confirmation. Some of the officials interviewed include Marco Rubio, Kristen Gillibrand, Mike Rounds, Jim Clapper, who was a director of national intelligence under Barack Obama. back in March, Farah discussed making the film in detail with the reporter, saying his goal was to only interview people who had direct knowledge of the topic as a result of their work with the U.S. government. Okay.

So there's a lot that we can discuss here in general. But before we do that, I want to bring in someone who has been on the UAP channel with me very much. So he's a very talented artist and he's become a very good friend of mine. That, of course, is the one and only attack. Peter. Hey, how are you, bud? Hey, I feel like I've broken through the dimension to this side. Happy to be here with the cool guys.

What's going on? It's true. It's true. And it's funny because you wrote me this morning, like, can't wait to watch this discussion. I was. I was going to watch it and like, let's see how this goes from different perspectives. Because I actually, I have a lot in common with Roka on this topic from what I see. Just different reasoning for getting to the same point of people.

But I'm pretty, we'll talk about it. Yeah, we'll talk about. Look, here's the thing. I've been, and this is what I've said about this, this documentary, it came out. out at South by Southwest, what I don't think it's going to do is, look, myself and Peter, and again, making it very clear that it's not that John hasn't paid attention to it, knows, understands the topic, but John, you'd agree that you're not as in the no paying attention to what's happening with the government and the certain things and the hearings

that have been made over the last couple of years, correct? I would say that I've watched some of the stuff clips out, clipouts and things of that nature over the year, but I haven't sat down and watched the documentaries that you've sent me, but I've got a pretty good handle on this stuff because I am more politically aware. I would think you would argue. I'm more politically aware than you about all the stuff that's going on. In general, with all politics. Yeah, you're definitely, crosses over because this is part of hearings and whatever. Sure. But I think that what I'm, you're probably more incisively knowledge about the stuff currently than I am yet. What I'm getting at more so is that if the three of us watch this

topic, there's going to be less that Peter and I are going to be like, oh, well, I haven't heard that before than you in this topic. Yeah. This particular topic, there will be certain things that people have said. And I think that that's the goal of the mainstream because I might, like, Bonnie Somerville sent me this. You said, have you seen this? And I'm like, to me, like, the two things that I get there is like, is this going to move

the needle at all for people who are really aware of it? Because I saw a lot of people in the comments who are saying, oh, I think that it's a, it's a way to distract people from the news. That's the silliest thing anyone's ever said. because there's two, there's two, it's a bipartisan team. If it was one team that was doing it just to push it out there in general, then I go, okay, maybe they're just trying to distract. That's not the case for that.

But I'll push back on that if you don't mind. Sure. I'll say that if we're still at a point where we believe that do not want us to become a political conversation, but I just have to say this, if we're still at a point where we think the lines in the sand are drawn one party and the other party and that's it, then we're not being honest. Right. what more likely is that there are factions within all government, right,

that have their own agendas and own initiatives. And if you could use momentum happening across the aisle for your own personal gain, you'll do it. You know, so I guess that's where potentially, like we all have something in common is that we are all super suspicious of any momentum and movement in government, sadly. Sure. But I think that this is what this, Dan Farah, we don't know what his political side is. is what he's trying to do here he's trying to get this out there and this is this is where i stand on

this john i want to i wanted to see what you think here because this is outside of what you believe and more so on the business side with how where you and i usually line up on the business side of yeah right so do you think because you look what i've been saying on my channel the other channel is dan farra who is very much involved and has been involved with spielberg ready player one and all those things right he puts this thing out first this is the first in the Hollywood circle that is starting to get people talking about it, yourself included. I mean, you saw it. Again, whatever you believe, you posted about it.

Yeah. So it did its job there. And so he's involved with Spielberg. He knows Spielberg, whatever. Spielberg's disclosure movie is coming out next year. Right. That's the first one that pops after that. Then after that is going to be Kaczynski's UFO movie.

He's also in line with. with Spielberg and that crew. And Spielberg has been very vocal about how Cruz and, and Kaczynski changed the game with Top Gun Maverick. And he's been, you know, a fan. And then that lines up. Then you got Travaro, who's also in sync with Spielberg, the Jurassic side of it and all that.

He's got a movie about Bob Lazar and George Knapp coming out. I said that for a long time that the government side of things could be the way to get. get more information out about this topic. I less than, I'm thinking less about that. And if there is actual information that people can relay to directors and things that they maybe couldn't testify under oath, that they give it to the director, the writer, is that real?

I don't know. And you put it out in the way that they did in close encounters, you know, and you put that out there. But do you think that this wave now, is it just because people who are saying, well, this is the next big thing? Or is this a calculated effort to put out information? through pop culture. Well, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, um, it's not an easy answer because I do think there's

stuff going on to, um, you know, kind of take advantage of a political position. And certainly this is a party because it's being, yes, you're saying it's bipartisan, but it is really, really being led by a lot of these GOP people, right? Tim Burchett, Anna Polina Luna, Mark, or others who are pushing this. And yes, there are bipartisan people involved. But what is the reason? What is the foundation of this? And it's because that party has become a party of conspiracy theories about everything.

So this exposes what they believe the government has been hiding for all these years and what have you. Now, of course, we've had the Roswell incident. And this used to be a leftist point of view, right? Like, hey, you know, their government is hiding aliens from us. They're high. Well, so they're hiding from us. And we've seen that kind of stuff. So I do think some of this comes from a place of self-serving.

That being said, there has always been a fascination with UFOs and with the UAPs as the new term is called and what it all means. We've done seen so many movies and so many documentaries that have explored this kind. Netflix had two really great documentaries as well as a couple of years exploring this kind of stuff. And you know, we've seen books and all of this stuff here, but we've never had concrete evidence. So I think this is like taking advantage of a thing that was bubbling below the surface. And now that there's more access to documents, more access to videos, now this has caused people to give it a little more credence. So yes, I do think they're riding the wave kind of like what happened with titanic but we had all these

documentaries and the movie and all this right around the same time because but spilberg is spilbert but a spilberg though like well i don't understand that that you said the wave yeah but that's that's been doing that since close the counts of the third time no no no but that's different but this is interest right but this is different this is what i'm saying it had had this been about like another war of the world's type of movie or et or something like because he's doing videos or movies on them that somehow they now have credibility. We don't know. I'm not saying I haven't seen the movie. I don't know what the movie is. I don't know the movie. What I'm saying is if it it leads to you, because you're still talking about the people that have been focused in this

particular documentary, the right side of it, right? I don't know where Dan Farrow lands, as I mentioned before. Oh yeah, no, I don't think Dan, I'm not saying, I'm not put any political aspersions on Dan, but Dan has an interest in this getting out. Dan has an interest in this and where, what what is Dan's personal point? Because a lot of Dan stuff has also been debunked by people who are just as knowledgeable and television. What's stuff? And I spent over the weekend reading and watching a bunch of stuff

because of your comment. I was like, well, let me get deeper into this. Let me see what Christian's talk. Is that why you brought up Mick West? No, Jay, well, no, there's other people. That guy can have an alien ship in front of his house and he's going to say it's a balloon.

Well, no, I mean, Hank Green. I think Hank Green did an incredible video. Okay, I don't know. Breaking down the Tic-Tac video and how much nonsense that is and then breaking the other videos. Wait, wait, why is that? Okay. You know, Peter, I know you, I'll let you as far as that. Well, we're just going to go off.

We're just not going to be able to do the topic because there's so much. But what we have to do is start inviting Roka to the other show. I agree. I think Roka should come out of it. Because I actually think, to be honest with you, and I'm only half, I'm very, I'm serious because I think Roka really does, in this specific moment, you know, represents, like, people that I know and love in my life. I respect to who are super intelligent, knowledgeable,

and honestly have the same PTSD that some of us have, which is like, bro, fool me eight or more times, you know what I mean? And so that's where I go. You know, Christian, when we talk about this, like, there are days when I'm like, I'm psyched. I think we're on to something. Something's moving. And then there are days like, why would I ever believe any elected official about anything?

And so that's where I go back and forth. And so I do think that this is the issue that you can't even begin to discuss this topic in an honest way until you clear out some of the rocks. And the reality is that's why this film has a challenge in front of it because like Roka said, in this climate, you put out something and you're asking people to believe some elected officials that have clearly, you know, mucked themselves up on other topics.

Now I've got to believe them on this. That's tough pill to swallow for me personally. And I told you, as much as Marco Rubio is up there talking about how, you know, he knows this and that. I bumped into him down here in Miami at a Cuban restaurant, a cafe window, getting coffee, and I started talking about Bob Lazar,

and he didn't know who he was talking about. Right. So I often worry that there's a saying, I'll align with anybody to do good and no one to do bad. And so there's a chance that Dan Farah is politically neutral in this issue, but he's saying, I need something to give this credibility.

And in the context of the conversation, if you have some folks who are more trustworthy, and then you throw in Marco Rubio and Anna Paulina, who's probably their parts were filmed before the latest set of controversy or whatever. You know, maybe this will help legitimize it. Well, here's the other thing, though, too, right? Because I agree with both you guys when it comes to with the politicians,

and I've said this many times over it. Like, make no mistake about it. Like, whether it was Luna, Burtchette, and Berluson, right? they are very much so I believe passionate about the topic however their names became

pushed into the spotlight even more when they started covering this topic now that could be for any politician when they find a particular topic that they might be passionate about they really dive into it because they go oh this is what people are going to this is what's helping me get my name out there

being able to do so I don't disagree with that Here's where I think that this documentary can win over John Roker. No, no, no, I'm using the John Rokas of the world. Because I agree with. Win me over too. That's what I don't understand because I believe, I said that in my tweet, I believe there we have been visited. I believe that there are intelligent life out there. I just don't know if I believe this movement, this idea that government has a global conspiracy.

Well, no, this, this documentary has a pretty specific point of view, by the way, from what I'm understanding. Which is, please don't put us in jail when you find out we've been hiding life-changing technology from the people and other companies. And to be honest with you, that is the most compelling part of this whole thing because I don't think from what I've heard, there's anything really like needle moving in terms of what the phenomena is. Instead, it's like have corporations, you know, hijacked our, are. ability to live the lives that we want to live. It shows you the power beyond how powerful, like, because John, I think that that's the misconception also, is when you go, well, the government wouldn't be able to hold these type of secrets, right?

And the question is, how powerful is a company like Lockheed Martin, right? How powerful is a company like that to where they'd be able to keep secrets? How powerful you look at, like, say, the NRA and look what they've done in general, what they're able to do in general, look at what how powerful potentially a company like a Lockheed Martin could be in holding secrets. because are you familiar with Hal Putoff? John? Howl put off?

I know. I'm not familiar. Okay. So I would encourage you that if you do get into this topic to look into him and he was someone who was very much involved that he says on the record that while he was with the Bush administration and other things that there were conversations at times to bring disclosure forth to the public and it was ultimately ruled out. But anyway, where I think I said won over and I'm saying to you. where I think you might get one over with this particular narrative

is depending on who they're speaking to outside of politicians. Because if you look for me, where I think they could win you over is the military people that have been involved. And that is like someone like a Tim Galadette. And you look at people like these Ryan Graves and Fravor, and you look at these military people highly, I mean, and how much do you know about David Grush, by the way? Well, what I know about is these military people is that when you look

at this stuff, how qualified are they to actually determine what this is? They can qualify what their experience with the object was, but they're not always schooled in knowing what exactly like a camera is doing, what the flares

are, what the speed of this stuff is, they're not always skilled at that. So when they're speaking about stuff, they're speaking about stuff from their own personal experience, having been in a plane and seen this stuff, right? That's the difference there. And I think these are the things that we have to, if you're going to explore this, you've got to create as much belief as skepticism so that you come out from the other side going, look, I've explored all the possibilities,

and this is where I land on it, which is why I'm, I look at it with a healthy dose of both, because, you know, I want to, it's not that I don't want to believe anybody. It's more a matter of, I want to see what's here. I want to really see the evidence. And I want to challenge the evidence. Yeah. Because that's how you come out feeling even more secure in what you believe. You know, not all the people like to be challenged. I enjoy it. Yeah, you know what's funny, Christian? Like, I so sympathize with what he's saying because I'm just thinking like I'm at a point now where I do believe there's something else out there that we don't understand, whether it's, you know, other species, an ancient race or whatever it is, an intelligent designer that we just can't even or just another state of consciousness that my limited brain can, you know, can't even articulate.

And my biggest concern now is how much of that is going to be manipulated to get people like me on board with giving up more rights or, you know, appreciating or accepting a new reality where, you know, there's a kind of like another layer of state, you know, motherhood on top of me that I can't escape. So my concern has gotten to that point. And that's why this documentary to me is so interesting because it is the first legitimate one. All the delays have been weird, but it also makes me think this is going to be the first step is getting the people to give forgiveness and moving on from the fact that you live in a country, in a world where corporations in the government, literal definition of fascism, can get together and change the reality around us. Yeah.

I mean, look, there's, I couldn't agree with you guys more, though. You can't, you should always go into something, no matter what it is, asking questions and never just nodding your head and saying absolutely, absolutely. And that goes to something as simple as like, well, yeah, Lucasum's going to get back on track. They both inform each other, which is hilarious. You've got to ask questions. You've got to be able to do. And I think that, but I also think the other side of it, and I'm not saying that you're going to do this, John, but there are a lot of people who will, that will just go, sure. Okay, yeah, right.

And it won't even listen to what's happening. Oh yeah, no, I know. I know. They're in the conversation. Yeah. What I'm hoping it does is where, as John said, and he's right in his tweet. He said, you really only started getting into this in the last two or three years, which is 100% accurate. And the way that I did was that I discovered on the, what the hell? What's the, what's the stupid Disney Plus? Not Disney, but the natural, what's the, National Geographic? Thank you. There you go. My head's broken. Don't pretend you watch that. And I do watch National Geelong. I was, but it was, it was National Geographic. graphic that popped up and it was UFOs discovering the unknown was a six-part series I was I don't know what I was watching was like I watch this because I thought it was like an ancient aliens thing but it wasn't and it was more so of the you know the stuff of the government people that were involved people who they involved in like the 1960s people who these nuclear

facilities and other things and I was like this is pretty fascinating and then a month later the David Grush stuff happened when he came out because that goes outside of what John was talking about with just the pilots because I don't disagree that there are certain things that pilots could see that we don't necessarily know that they might not necessarily know but when you hear Fravor's testimony about the way that it moved and other things that he was very close to it another conversation but I go outside of that and really pay attention to what David Grush said because he wasn't on the floor he was running he was like running this program for the government led by, again, Harry Reid, very opposite of the lunas and everybody else of the world,

who then asked Chuck Schumer to get involved in it. So it's this entire, it depends on who's talking and it depends on what is said. I wonder if this documentary will get people into the subject in the way that that one got me into the subject, if that makes it. Yeah, I mean, I think it'll be fascinating because it'll have to be about how. How much is in this? Because I've read a few reviews on it. Collider gave it like two and a half stars because instead it wasn't as groundbreaking as it was trying to be. But the main person they focused on was the best person in the document. For a second, hold the thought. Hold that thought, please. I want to continue. Because you know what's funny about that? I saw that. I'm like, oh, you didn't like it. He's like, I loved it. Frosty saw it. He told me, Frosty said that it was split. There were people in there that thought it was fascinating and next level. And then there was exactly what you're talking about. So please continue. Yeah, well, I mean, I don't put any credit in that Fool's comments on anything.

So it's very well known how much of a hack I think he is. Anyway, we look at this stuff. To me, I look at it and I go, okay, is it going to accomplish its goals? Is it going to get across? And we've seen, like you said, you got into a natural. I've seen documentaries since the 1970s, Leonard Nimoy voicing over in search about UFO stuff. I've watched Unsolved Mysteries since the 1980s about UFO stuff. I've lived in Virginia where there were a number of,

there was that famous UFO sighting, you know, with a couple there. And so I've been very well. I've checked out books from the library. If you could have found my stuff where I've researched this stuff I'm a teenager. So I've always been interested in this stuff. In the topic in general.

In the topic in general. But the government side of it has been significantly different over the last three years. The government side. Yeah, because more of these people who believe in conspiracy theories have got it. No, that's not true. That's not true. Would you say, would you say Garcia, AOC,

again, Harry Reid, Schumer. But I'm talking about the people who instigated this initially. Yes, O.C. has come home. That was Schumer. Yeah, Harry Reid is the primary. I know. I love Harry Reid. And so I like the idea.

But if I get to the point, my point is that I like the idea of wanting more, how can I say this? More openness. I want stuff to be released, right? Those JFK files that got released recently, which are not going to have anything in them. I see this idea. I'm all for open. You know me, Christian.

I'm all for transparency. I even want fucking Oscar voters to put their ballots online. Like I want transparency on everything. I'm definitely aligned with you guys and with everybody involved in this 100%. The problem I have is that the people involved in this, some of the people involved in this, are also trying to hide other files, other documentation, other things. They don't have as much fervor to get that shit released.

Oh, it hurts their credibility. I don't know. If you go down, if you, the rabbit hole that at least, I'm sure Christian and I have both in some part been down in the last few years. You get to a point where you're like, are these things connected, dude? Like, are one set of files being used to suppress other files coming out, you know? Yeah, right. Where are all these bipartisan meetings that get these Epstein files out to get this stuff out?

And it's like, well, no, we have to look at it. But that's my point. And you know, I want everything out there. Yeah, yeah. No, no, dude. Because I believe this idea that the American people can't fucking handle it, has been the cop-out excuse since the inception of our government. We've handled world wars, nuclear threats, and pandemics.

We can't handle some. That's a straight-out cop-out. I'm with you. Yeah, 100%. And Peter and I have talked about this, too, are blue in the face on the other channel, is that here's the reason why. This is the main reason why.

Let's say we're all in agreement. Let's say there was cover-up. There was reverse engineering programs. But here's the reason why they're not doing it. The amount of lawsuits, the amount of money, the amount of people going to potential jail of things that have happened over the last 70 years that would happen, the amount of the markets dropping and other things happening, that's government changing.

And by the way, let's say that this stuff that they say, hypothetically, if you believe it, the energy that could be changed in general, oil companies and other things and big companies that could take a massive hit and other things, there are major financial reasons, potentially, of why you wouldn't say these things. that has nothing to do with, well, the American public or the World Public couldn't handle it. It's the same argument as the marijuana legalization argument for our whole lives.

You know, it was like you can't decriminalize marijuana or make it legal because people are going to, you know, it's going to be bedlam in the streets. Right. And it wasn't until, and we've talked about this before, Christian, when it comes to, like, actual social movements happening in this country, they are rarely initiated or instigated by the federal government

or any government. It's usually they're late. Like, there's all those videos of, of big Democrats saying I'm a marriage is man and a woman and that's crazy to think now, right? So like there's all these, there's all this precedent of people and the culture changing first, then big corporate interest, big government interest, figuring out how they can get their hands in the pot like with marijuana. We couldn't get the real legalization started in other states until, you know, there was big

corporate investments and figuring out how we're going to control the business of this. And I think we're probably in a same situation where this will be. that next topic that's going to, you know, trickle little by little. And simultaneously, and maybe someone is thinking of this, simultaneously, it kind of like treats us like boiling frogs, would just turn up the temperature on disclosure a little bit at a time. So if it does freak anybody out or it will freak them out less. Well, but that was my point with what I was trying to say before with- I don't like it, though. But that was my point I was trying to say before. It's like if this does it, let's say that people like John, other people start to go, okay, there were a couple of things

are pretty fascinating that he starts to do more research on it. Other people who are in the chat, skeptical about it, starts to do a little more research on it and becomes more of that thing. It is a way then for a Spielberg to put more information.

Because the reason why I brought that up before John, when you asked that question of like, why would Spielberg go outside? He's always been doing this UFO stuff. Because this particular topic is more about disclosure from what he's talking about.

He pays attention very much what was happening. Now, the other side of it is the Kaczynski side. Excuse me. And I asked you, fuck. They asked you earlier, how familiar were you with David Grush? Right. No, I'm not that familiar with you. So David Grush is the whistleblower who testified in 2023,

Broke, but he's got the most mainstream coverage on this in general. He is a consultant on Kaczynski's movie. And a lot of people think that it might actually be his story unofficially. Right. And that's a way for them to put out more information because you can't, a lot of these people can't testify under oath. because they're not protected. There's not a great protection program for a lot of these witnesses that they won't, like,

their government. Part of the Whistleblower Act that they're trying to pass. Right. Yeah. Look how good we've treated the whistleblowers in the past 20 years. Terribly. Terribly, like the government jobs, like everything, they just, there's no, like you look at, like, as I mentioned to you in our back and forth, Jay Stratton, who's going to be talking

in this documentary, he hasn't testified. And he would be a major, major witness, but he's not protected enough. Eric Davis not protected enough. Lackatsky, not protected enough. These people are not protected enough that they don't want to do anything. There's no movement on it until they do that. And that's what Likatsky said, right? Like, why would I come out?

Let's pull this out to the macro. Because I want to, you know, like I said, I'm a little more politically aware than you were about this kind of, about all this stuff. And it's not an insult. Just that, you know, I know you don't have that much in the time. So let's pull this out, right? If you have Annapoleon, who is one of Trump's sycophants

running this stuff with, with other people. She just runs the task force. She just runs the task force. With Burchett. And then you have Trump in charge of both all the intelligence divisions we see now and the DOJ and the Department of War. Then where is the sphere coming from that they would be put into prison or whatever? If it's all being led by people who Trump approved of to explore this stuff, then where is the not? I think he's referring. No, I'm talking about 70, 80 years of cover-up, John. Even when we have the same same thing was happening with.

whistleblowers whistleblowers not necessarily no one's going to go after these whistleblowers no no no I know what he's talking about what he's talking about what I said what I said earlier about that if this came out that they would be going after people to go to jail and those things I'm talking about things that they were released Santos they're not going to put anyone in jail I'm not talking about this republic you know you see this I'm talking it through Lockheed Martin because here's the other thing where a lawsuit comes in John Lockheed can't put anybody in jail no no to jail from Lockheed like so for example if if if the rumors and everything else is true, that Lockheed Martin and other companies got a hold of these things before anybody else did, right? That they did it without the proper way of, like, let's say you're a company that specializes in this kind of science and you were never consulted. You could sue the shit out of me for that because it's a monopoly. And that's the type of lawsuits I'm talking about.

That's how so because. But to push back against what you were saying. They signed a contract. But wait, the pushback of what you were saying. when Biden was under administration, Harry Reid, not Harry Reid, Schumer was running this thing, not Luna. Right.

Schumer was running. She's running it now, but nothing has changed as far as the way that it was being pushed. She has now a couple more people, and they're the ones who are leading it, the way that they're leading other things. That hasn't changed. Schumer was the one who was. But the Biden administration is not the Trump. I mean, that's not an autocracy, which is what you see happening.

Now, that's the difference is what I'm saying. I'm just saying there were Democrats were in a leader of this thing. getting sued or getting going to jail because it was a more impartial approach, whether people want to believe it or not in their conspiracy theory, it was more of an impartial approach. What we see now is very partial. So I would imagine whistleblowers now, and the lot of these business guys are in league with Trump. So why would they go after these people? That's the thing you've got to kind of clarify here. And I'm telling people who understand how this is working now, it doesn't seem to, the points don't seem to add up if you're saying the whistleblowers would get in

trouble for this stuff when by Lockheed Martin but if Trump said don't sue them or I'm going to take away or put tariffs on your shit they wouldn't do it so there's let me try for the government to get this stuff out there and for the blowers speak their truth if Trump wanted this to happen he could make it happen a thousand percent you know roka I think um one of the the points is for example the accusation or the theory that potentially over the last six decades or whatever it is the government had played favorites with corporations. It's always been the case in the history of America. 100%.

But in this particular topic, one of the assertions or one of the theories is that if Lockheed Martin or someone, one of these military industrial corporations, has had access to this technology, you know, the zero point energy technology, whether it came from an extraterrestrial race or whether we just figured it out or whatever it is.

The point is, if they were given access to it, therefore someone else wasn't given access to it in the competitive space, that the rival to Lockheed Martin would have a case against the federal government for that. Because of, you know, there's just laws in the books against that sort of thing. Of course. That is one of the current prevailing, well, current or like, you know, prevailing theories as what might be holding back some disclosures. is that forget the uh huh you know go ahead peter sorry i don't mean to interrupt no it's okay i was

i was going to say it's uh it's it's that might be more of the pressing issue uh than even you know the uh the the shock to the system socially uh you know religion and all that kind of stuff is like hey you're going to have to deal with a major you know uh rupture in between these corporations which i i totally on go ahead chrisons no john please go ahead i totally understand exactly where you're coming from with that in terms of competitive nature and all this kind of stuff. But what you guys are accepting as truth is that this technology is out there and that people have been doing this. And I am, I cannot go that far that they've gotten alien technology.

I mean, this is something out of an event. It's alien technology. It could be that. It could be. Sure. I sometimes think that the alien story is a skin. You can take an elephant off of Daisy by time. Right. But like, so there's possibilities, of course. I just don't accept anything where they've, I just don't buy this kind of, it gets way too far into the tinfoil hat thing when it goes into like they found this technology that no one knows. And that's the, that's the part where I'm quite not ready to make the leap yet. All the other. But that's what that's what I meant.

But I think that that's what I meant though is that for in our, in our exchange again, why social media. That like there was a. enough conversation of what, from military leaders, for people again, like, what's, God, Peter, my head, John, is not Noel, shoot, what's his name?

From Carl, Carl, Nell. Carl Nell. When you listen to people like Carl Nell, and you look at these people that are speaking now, and the things that they say in general about the things that were recovered, if you just casually or looking at it, you can have the kind of far-fetched idea of like,

this is so silly that they're saying they recover these things. And I don't blame you for feeling that way. But when you look at enough of these military people who have said these particular things who don't have an agenda, some of these people who don't, some of them do, but some of them don't, Timothy Gallaudet, people along that nature. And you look at it, it starts to make you think. Because I've said this many times over I say to my channel a lot of time. I do not believe that it's alien for this reason alone.

Three-Eye Atlas is this thing that's coming towards us. We don't know what it is. Is it a comet? Is it an, we don't know. There's Harvard scientists, Avi Loeb, so that it could be something outside of this, maybe life or alien life or whatever it might be. Let's say that that's the fact.

We've been tracking this thing for like months, months. So it's getting an orbit. So you, even if it's going faster than anything ever, it still takes that long to get there where you'd see it. I don't believe any of these things. things that have been flying around, whether it's the stuff over Langley, whether it's the stuff, you know, over Jersey, or I don't think that has anything to do with alien life coming out all the way through. Now, when you look, I'm just watching Interstellar and you watch it,

like, you listen to quantum physics people talk again. To me, it is more realistic, in my opinion, of bending time and space and finding ways with technology of dimension. I don't know the way time and space works. And anybody who thinks that they do are out of their mind. There are ways, I think bending time and space is way more realistic and possible than I do people coming from other planets. You think interdimensional travel is what you're talking. I think that has a lot. I think that is way more realistic than us, this thinking that things are coming from at space light speed and we didn't track it. I think that it is way, like, there's a prevailing theory that like, you know, folks have figured out, you know,

Anti-gravity and all these things. Anti-gravity, and it relates to Christian saying time and space travel. So it's like you get to a certain point where, and it's kind of the quantum physics of it all, again, too stupid to know much about it. But the point is that there's so much about that separate from the UAP and alien topic that it makes you think, is there, is there like a branch of science that kind of happened, you know, like in the DARPA sphere and in these military industrial complex corporations and like, you know, we don't need to share this. went to the Manhattan Project once. That was a little stressful. We were trying to keep it from other countries and other militaries. Why don't we just say, if this ever shows up, it's an alien, you know, which is something

I think about often, too, like either we were, either we found this technology and tried to figure it out, or we had, it was created or discovered, right? There's great stuff about this inventor, Roka. If you get a chance, look up Thomas Townsend Brown, who supposedly the, the archetype that, that Doc Brown was based on, again, another Spielberg connection, but essentially that they figured this stuff out. They kept it secret because they didn't want, they knew that if this got out, that would be the end,

this kind of technology. So I don't know, man, I go back and forth about all time. I often, the upside to me is I hope we discover that there is a greater purpose that people don't understand, that we are all connected, that we're all part of one big fabric of reality, and we can unite over that. And my concern, the downside is this whole thing is another fantasy to get us to look over here while we're just experiencing more of the same, which is, you know, war, profiteering, and manipulation of humans and playing to our better nature. The fact that we are optimistic enough to consider there might be another unifying reality and manipulating that for gain.

That's where I fall on it. I'm hopeful. Well, obviously, we could talk about five hours for this time. And I do think also that we're going to be. Bring him to the basement, dude. I know. Well, look, we will definitely bring Roke over. I think it would be great to have Roke over there.

Obviously, very well informed in the politics of it. I think it's very, I think it's healthy to have someone who's asking questions and is, you know, and learning more stuff about it too. So I'd love to have him over there. But I think we can also continue this conversation when this thing drops in November. Oh, definitely. Are we not getting screeners? Are we not getting a little red carpet action?

I'm trying to get Dan Farrah on the show. Come on. I'm trying to do. I'm trying to get down. Who's more connected to the UAP and the Hollywood of it? Together, I know I've got to see. So Peter, I wanted to thank you for joining us here, brother. I appreciate it.

Hey, listen, if people wanted to come check you out, where do they go? Hey, the best thing to do right now is go find one of these PBR kids that I did the artwork on. I already got paid. So this is not a sales pitch. I just wanted to do well. So they hire me again in the future. But, yeah, I designed a bunch of Godzilla cans with PBR. So if you're in the grocery.

store, the gas station, or your favorite adult beverage purveyor, go pick up one of those. It's by me. All right. Peter, you're the best. Thanks for joining me. Later, guys. Thanks for you. Great to see you, man.

Talk soon. Later. Yeah, love, man. All right. Peter is out. Now, I got to find, there's a two shot. No, the two shots is gone. I love this comment.

Go Barclay. Bring in Rocha. He believes in Transformers. I'll bring. I'll have this for now. And then we'll change this up. Okay. Listen, we're going to be, we have a lot more to talk.

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Soon enough. Listen. So we got 25 questions thus far. Oh, wow. I'm excited about that. Let's get to 100 again. We might be able to. We might be able to.

And we're crushing your two. It's a great conversation. I like the conversation. It does, by the way, show that our, it shows our relationship in general all the way, all the way over. Well, because even where I said, Because if you watch my video on the DT channel where I said, look, this is why I hate social media.

I hate it because you were like, you could have just told me. I was like, he's right. I could have. I could have just talked to him. But then I said, we'll talk about it on Monday. Yeah. I knew we would do that. Yeah.

And it's a good conversation, gentlemen. I'm excited to see like where that conversation takes us. Yeah. Yeah. I'm open to all of it. As I said, you know, I like to explore this stuff. I like to explore things. Right.

Sure. I enjoy it. Now, the other thing that you were open about and you said, listen, I'll give you my honest thoughts. You saw after the hunt over the weekend. I agree with you. It's a little longer. It's a little.

You said around in the middle of it is like, okay, we're kind of repeating the things. Let's move. But you seem to be on the same page with me where it's like, I like that it asked you to have a conversation. Yeah, I really dug a lot of the things that have brought up. I see some people kind of belifying it or whatever. And I don't know what they were expecting. But I thought it was a good movie to open the door to challenging certain points. views and bringing up a lot of questions about, you know, should someone just believed,

be believed because of their gender or their race? And then the people believing them, what are their ulterior motives or stuff that they're hiding? And then on the other side, why aren't we focusing on how these accusations affect people who've been accused? So I thought there was a lot of things that were interesting that were brought up and the relationships and the characters. I think people are uncomfortable watching this movie because they don't want to see themselves as one of those characters in the movie and a lot of people are. And especially a lot of critics are, certainly when I was watching

the movie. So I think that was a problem. My only issue with the movie, though, is that it didn't go deep enough because it was kind of machine gun spraying all of the people out there. And I think if they had chosen like two or three of these things to really explore, I think it would have nailed it. And Julia was

it's the best thing's ever done. I told you. I told you. I told you. But here's another thing where I agree with you very much so. Yeah. Andrew Garfield was not utilized as much as he should have been. This is nonsense. Yeah. If you're going to be challenging and you're going to be like, ooh, we're going to put things, we're going to make you.

You got to show the guy's reaction to stuff because there are men who've been falsely accused of the stuff. We've seen Patrick Kane is a great example. The NHL player was accused of the Duke lacrosse players. There is evidence of it. And dismissing it as a small minority of people is nonsense. You've got to explore all of it, you know. Well, it didn't do very well in the. the box office at all. It's not doing very well. And it's, we both agree. She should be nominated.

I don't know if she will be because of the box office stuff. I hope that she will be, but we'll see. But nonetheless, the box office is out. And Blackphone 2 tis the champion. Blackphone 2 rings loudly at the box office. After a few misfires this year, Blumhouse has returned to form. It seems with their Blackphone 2 topping the box office this weekend, the supernatural horror sequels tracking for 20, 4.4. We'll have the actual numbers in just the second here. Critics reviews are only slightly less than the first. Overall, B, center score are considered very good for our horror film. Other main newcomer this weekend. Good fortune. Let's see what the actual box offers are before. It seems like they always, for some reason, are a little behind on that one. So Blackphone 2, 26.5. 42 worldwide is pretty good for a horror movie. I agree. Internationally, 15 million. Pretty good. Trott Areys, 102 million so far worldwide, making a less. million this weekend. It's probably on

its last legs here. What's good fortune? Which one is it? Oh, that's the Cana Reeves one. Yeah, Seth Rogan. Did you see it? No, I heard not good things. Okay. Six million. Six million. One battle after another, bringing in another four million, taking its grand total to 162 worldwide. Roofman

at 17 million so far. To me, that's one of, that's one of my biggest surprises of the year. Here's the top ten. Truth and Reason, number six, Gabby's Dala House. Conchering after the hunt coming in at number nine, but it's only made 1.8.

That's not good. Not good. It's not a movie people are going to rush out to see in the theater anyway, but it, but it, that's just not, not the best. Yeah.

What stands out them? What stands out overall in the, I mean, how do you have a film with Julia Roberts and Andrew Garfield that only makes two million dollars? And Luca Guadena, who is known to kind of operate in those, how can I say in those like kind of artsy fartsy areas where there are millions to be made

it is because people are going to see one battle after another the vent diagram is not that out of the topics are different dude people people people don't want to sit like look I was you and I clearly like it more than than most it is not a topic and I'll be completely honest if it wasn't her and Garfield in this thing I don't have been and Luca obviously was Luca to me but I've paid attention to Lucas movies. Not everybody does. The mainstream media isn't, I know,

I thought comedy was great. I didn't, I haven't seen queer, but I thought, I thought challengers was awesome. Right, right, but it's, it's again,

it's even though, and we're not in, Julie Roberts is doing stuff where she's elevating projects now without just her name in it. It's her, it's the stuff that she's been in, you know,

she's, she's, she's going after different roles now than she did, rightfully so than she did earlier in her career. Yeah. And I think that, look, If you, I was at the press conference and I can tell you, this is not the last time they're going to work together.

She's like, oh, Luca and her. No. Or a lot of them. A.O. and a lot of them. I think that they're really bonded. You can tell throughout this conversation. But anyway. Yeah.

But it was a black phone. Black phone, though. Black phone, too. Did you see it? Well, I've not seen Blackphone to, no. I saw it. Very worthy sequel. Okay.

Very. It's a solid sequel. And I like what Derrickson does. I don't know if it would have succeeded or been as good if Derrickson didn't have control of it, right? Because they're playing off the lore. They're going into more Nightmare and Elm Street type of thing. They're building out the grabber as this, you know, the new kind of horror villain. And I think that we need that.

Almost like a Freddie. Yeah. Yeah. We kind of need that, though. Who was the last one? I mean, let's remake Friday 13th again. Let's bring back Michael Myers. Because there's nobody else.

And now it's okay, the grabber is starting to, like, My, uh, Ethan Hunt is great as this creepy weirdo. Even Hawk, Ethan Hunt. Yeah, perfect. He's good too. My, my head is all over the place with me. A three hour movies is very long. Ethan Hunt, Ethan Hunt coming.

That's the brand. That's the, that's the spin. That's the trick. But Ethan Hawk is phenomenal in it. And so the kids are really good also. Yeah, that's what I've heard. The kids are great. And they change a perspective a little bit.

They don't try to repeat the same bit. So I can understand, especially towards the Halloween season, when they put this in. Yeah. Yeah, another one, Arthur Clown and Terrifier is another one that they've now brought into the same way. So I like, you know, this is smart that they had this movie come out right around the holiday season. It's, Mumhouse needed this hit. And so makes sense to me for sure. I don't know what else really is coming out.

This, what I'm going to see? What am I seeing tonight? I'm seeing the Springsteen movie. tonight. Yeah, yeah. I'm driving up to see that one in Burbank. Yeah. Friend taking it for that. Yeah. And then there's another one out that I'm seeing tomorrow. What the hell is? It comes at this

weekend that I'm seeing it. Oh, what the hell is it? I'll tell you in a second. You'll know what it is once I say. I'm sure you're going to see it too. Are you seen anything else this weekend? This week? This week? Yeah, regretting you. Regretting you is the other one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's tomorrow. And then after that next week is um oh anniversary comes out next week and i root for you you know my my my my my my mentors uh david gambino right is his wife lori wrote anniversary nice and that comes out i'm

i'm really rooting for that one um the bologna comes out on Halloween right christie is coming on November 7th so there's really in normberg which i saw already but the next really big kind of mainstream release is Predator Badlands on November 7th. Yeah, I keep waiting for that. I'll keep looking every day for that invite. Yeah, so it's never versus. And then November 14th is both, now you see me, now you don't.

Right. Then the Running Man, same weekend. Oh, yeah. Wicked then is November 21st. And Zootopia. So November is stacked. We are barreling to the end of the year, man. Yeah.

It's crazy. I was out in the stores this weekend. It's like all Christmas stuff. Decorations are already up. We haven't even fucking gotten to Halloween yet and stuff is all over them. So yeah, it's going to be a hell of a fast move to the end of the year with all these movies to strike again. It's true. So what do you guys make of the box office in general?

Anything shock you? Not shock you? What do you think? Did you see Blackphone 2? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. All right. We're going to talk about this.

This is one that Luke sent me this morning. Okay. And I was like, I'm not leading with that because it's kind of like a no-brainer. I mean, like, what do you expect them to say here? But like, George Lucas says he's moved past Star Wars after Disney took over and gave it their vision. I mean, of course. You know, is that shocking? No.

Is it really even that much of a story? I don't know. Let's see. Star Wars creator, Julius Lucas has talked about begrudgingly including the franchise in his museum and say he's moved on from the franchise after handing the reins to Disney following a $4 billion sale. It's been 13 years since George Lucas sold Star Wars, while fans have been patiently waiting for him to step back behind the camera to shoot another movie. He's actually busy working on a museum.

The project reportedly cost the 81-year-old at least $1 billion to put together in the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art is now on track to open in L.A. next year. As the name suggests, it will showcase narrative art, but much to the disappointment of sum, it is a movie museum or even a journey through Lucas' story career. in fact, during an interview with the Wall Street Journal, he explained why he's eager for it not to become known as the Star Wars Museum. It's one gallery at a 33, and I did it grudgingly. I didn't want people to come to the museum and say,

where's the Star Wars? It will house an N-1 starfighter from the Phantom Menace, but only one exhibit will be devoted to a galaxy far, far away. Addressing the current state of the franchise and how he now views the world he creates, Lucas said Disney took it over and gave it their vision. That's what happens. Of course, I've moved past it. I mean, I've got a life. building a museum. Museum is harder than making movies. While he visited the odd set since Disney took charge, while he has visited the outset since Disney took charge of Star Wars, he's mostly kept

his opinions to himself, and he suggests moves on with his life. When the deal was struck, the plan was to use Lucas outline for the sequel trilogy, only for the House of Mouse to just slightly start from scratch. That resulted in divisive moves like the Force Awakens, Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker, and last year, Lucas hinted he believes Disney had got the trilogy wrong. I was only one who knew what Star Wars was, who actually knew this world because there's a lot to it. The Force, for example, nobody understood the force. When they started, other ones after I sold the company, a lot of the ideas were in the original sort of got lost, but that's the way it is.

Give it up, give it up. Fans have expressed unhappiness with the Star Wars franchise and how it's been handled on Kathleen Kennedy's watch after 13 years. She's expected to step down within the next year or so. Current Lucasfilm chief creative officer Dave Filon remains a favor to replace her, which is crazy, meaning a creative world once again would be in charge of this, property. So there will be no Star Wars return for Lucas, but his museum is shaping up to be another impressive edition. Yada y'all. So John, you know where I think the actual story is here?

Go ahead. His museum and what he's doing with his museum. That's the story. And I said, good for him because he's right. You know, he, yes, he is primarily known for bringing us Star Wars. I mean, of course he is. But if I'm him, I'm going, look, let Disney do a Star Wars museum. I'll do a piece of even though I'm even no want to, but I should do a little bit of one, but I want to do the rest of this stuff and other things and, and I've earned it. Yeah. So good for him.

Yeah. You know what I mean? So, yeah. He's not a person, but yeah. You don't want to limit him, Christian, right? I mean, he's a person who has many, he's an intelligent guy, George Lucas, and he's got a lot of interests.

And so I think opening a museum that showcases his interested in movies and other things that are going to be highlighted there makes all the sense in the world. But he also, knows that, you know, he has to also honor the things that made him his name, which is the Star War stuff. But he made it one, as he said, out of 33 rooms or exhibits that are in that, in that museum. And I think that's great because, yes, it just shows you that this is a guy who's got all kinds of things. And he wants to show people, all kinds of things. And it's his way of giving back, which I think is amazing. We've seen the Academy Museum do that with the Oscar stuff that's

over there on, I think, Robertson or whatever it is. And so I love this. Any more museums that can show us our history and show us the dynamic things that have gone on in the world of entertainment and outside the world of entertainment. I'm always four. So yeah, I like it. And I'm still in solo. So I'll just keep going.

Sorry. No, I was speaking and I was stupid. Sometimes you got to hit that stupid button and it wasn't, I thought I was talking. I agree with you. that you just said, look, the thing for him is, what, you sold it, you're allowed, he had that time period when he went to see those movies and he's like, he was still invested in it. And they're like, okay, here's my, here's the outline. I gave this to you guys before I left.

What do you think? And they go, no thanks. We're going to do something completely different. And he's like, they don't understand what this is. And you probably get pissed off for a bit. You have your conversation. Do you visit? And then you just go, ah, forget it.

Yeah. And that's, and that's what he did. And again, he's earned it at that point. They've never given it back to him. So, you know, and he's, you know, and he's. 81 years old, you want to see. He doesn't want it back again at this point, too. And I think that the mistake, I think you and I both agree. The mistake they're going to make is they're going to give Flonie this, this type of. It is, it is the stupidest thing that they're going to do. And

they're going to do it. And it is going to make it even worse. It's going to become a, it's going to become a childish brand all the way through. A WIA brand. It's going to be, it's going to be terrible, terrible decision for them to do. But they're going to do it anyway. They still had this idea that the fans are like, gung-ho, Flonny. And, they're not. There's a, I'm not speaking for everybody. Right. Right. There is a handful of people that are definitely like, let's do it. He does not have that support that he had beforehand. Plus, he's proven that he's got strength. Get, let the guy run the animated thing. He's great with animation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's phenomenal. Let him run the animated division. Give him that division and bringing somebody who

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Anyway, what do you guys make of all of it? put your thoughts in there let us know about lucas's comments what say you all right last topic before we get into our questions and that's about mark ruffalo hey just finished task last night yeah man that's phenomenal but i tell you what a show what a show what a show uh that ending crazy crazy uh ruffalo still keen on a solo halt film he was really good in task he was great he was great Though we got two standalone Hulk films with Eric Bonner and Norton, the latter even taking place within the MCU. Marvel has made it clear they have no plans to do another standalone Hulk film.

Ruffalo, who has played the role since Avengers in 2012, has appeared in multiple other movies in the part, but never had really had the chance to headline his own film. He explained last year that Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feigy told him will never give you a standalone Hulk. Don't mean to burst your bubble, well, that's just not going to happen. Ruffalo expected to appear in Spider-Man Brand New Day as a character once again, and sadly it looks like Marvel sticking to its no.

no solo Hulk movie. The actor tells GQ, whatever the case, he wants to do one. He said, I'd love to do a solo Hulk movie. I don't know if you know the story of that, but it's not really owned by Marvel. It's a universal property. I don't know if it'll ever really come to beat. We keep talking about it, that what it would be. There's been so many Hulk movies already.

It's like, does anyone really want to see another one? But I'd love one. And I do think the audiences would be intuitive, not of it. The She Hulk attorney-in-law finale introduced Hulk's son's scar, but really hasn't gotten any further with that. We'll never see him ever again. Ruffalo hasn't been confirmed for either Avengers,

Jim's Day or Avengers Secret Wars yet, though he's expired to here in the latter. I mean, he pretty much said it. It's the universal deal. That's why they're not going to get it done. But I do think people would want to see it, especially now. Like, if the Hulk movie, solo movie,

would have come out, you know, after a few of those big hits that had come, because it was the second movie right after Iron Man. Yeah. And people were still trying to figure out the MCU. it would have done significantly better, especially if they would have released a Hulk movie after the first Avengers,

would have done very well. Yeah, or even after Endgame to see how intelligent Hulk, right, or in between Infinity War and Game, end game, if that had been the movie where we go, we see Hulk confront the stuff that came for him in Infinity War and then comes out the other side to be intelligent Hulk, so by the time he shows up in the end game,

we have the backstory of how that happened, it would have been great. I think what it is is that Marvel looks does their own analytics and they see that like a Mark Ruffalo led Hulk movie isn't worth the financial dealings that they do with Sony over Spider-Man and Tom Holland. I think they looked at it. We're like, well, people may want it, but I don't think it's going to do as well, or we don't think it's going to do as well. So we're not going to negotiate for it. Because I think if they felt it was someone, like, I don't know, what do you want to say? Like someone really big playing Hulk who's a actor, I think they 100% would have explored it.

But I think with Ruffalo, who's more known as an indie actor, I don't think they necessarily feel like it's financially feasible or logical to make a deal with Universal to have a solo Hulk movie and share, you know, like they do with Sony, share the credits, so to speak. Hulk movie, do you want to see it? Do you not want to see it? Put your thoughts in there, let us know. Do you think that it should be something that they should try to figure out Universal

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on the channel as well. And today, as I said, I'm driving up to Burbank to see the Springsteen film with Shannon McClung, one third of the geek buddies. and we're going to have an out of theater reaction for that tonight as well. So it's my birthday week this week. So he's treating me to a nice dinner. So I'm going up for that. So yeah,

come and subscribe. Do me give me a present. Subscribe to the channel. Cool. Happy early birthday. Thank you, sir. Before we get into it,

so, you know, I've got, we're getting really close with the, with the show. Yeah. And it comes soon. So,

you know, I, we had finished, we'd, well, we hope it's our final draft that we'd give to the producers and director after the notes. and so I sent it to Saul.

Saul, good buddy Saul. And I, he said, I read it. I have no idea. This could sink my whole operation here today. I have no idea what he thought of it.

I have no clue whatsoever. And I said, you know what? We haven't done a Saul phone call in a while. So I'm going to call Saul and I'm going to see, this could be the sinking, the sinking ship for the show. You probably say,

and I can give really bad notes. So let's see what Saul. Saul thought. He's a New Yorker. Yeah. Let's see what he says. He's not going to pick up. He might be doing the steroids to get ready for wrestling.

There he is. The great Saul, one of the big inner geekdom, Schmodeon, competitors of all time. Saul, you read the script. I sent it to you. What were your thoughts? Okay. I was, I read a lot of scripts in my day.

Yeah. Oh, boy. And, you know, when someone you like or care about sends you a script, it's a different sort of thing. It's a little different energy. It's like, okay, I've got to take the time. I've got to look at this and they really, you know, sending a script is a little nerve-wracking to anybody.

So I appreciate and respect to that. So I was ready to be a professional, unlike normal. And, like, I didn't have to be for a fucking second. The thing had me rolling, like, on the first page. Oh, there you go. No, there's fucking belly laughs in this thing. Oh, thanks, man. And the script, okay, so when you read a script,

I'm not sure people know this, I'm just, I'm gonna bring everyone on the same page, no pun intended. When you like to read, you have to tell yourself you're reading a script, especially with a comedy sometimes. You have to get into that mindset,

because it's such a rigid, it's almost like architecture. It doesn't look like, it doesn't look like a novel or anything. It looks weird. This thing flows so seamlessly. Oh, thanks, man. That like, you don't have to do that.

I have to usually have to prep myself, especially for a comedy. No, dude, this is fucking, this is the funniest. shit I've ever seen you put out. No, thanks, brother. There was a line in here about an actor. I want to ruin it, but it's fucking hysterical.

Which actor? To me, shallamy. Oh, okay. Okay. That caught me off guard. There's a joke very early on about a vest that completely hit me between, it hit me between the eyes. So do you have it with that? I mean, the audience doesn't know it yet, but do you have a favorite character?

Yeah, I'm leaning towards the main. I'm very curious about Vince. Okay. But like I like Danny. Like I get like I do you find him likable? I find him likable. You know, I'm not sure.

I don't know if I like it either. It might be empathy. I'm not sure if it's like. Okay. I don't dislike it. Okay, good, good. Because that's one of those. Well, good.

So I appreciate that very much. Look, you could have absolutely come here and take a big dump on it. And then my Kickstarter has to go back to the drawing board because I got to go. But you didn't. So I appreciate you coming in here. Will, and I'll give you more updates as we're going to launch a Kickstarter pretty soon for it.

Can I say, Can I say two things real quick? Yeah, of course. One, you can see your old pal Sully at the 2,300 arena, only the ECW arena. Oh, right. On November 22nd, Saturday, November 22nd, I'll be wrestling there. That's cool. As part of the Monster Factory.

And two, Roka, you're looking at this disclosure thing all wrong. You have a completely different person. Looking at the what? He can't hear you because he's on, he's, you're on my phone, but I'll let him know what you said. And he can, he can address you once. What about looking at the UFO? He's got to stop looking at the one. at it. He has first-hand knowledge

of how government intelligence works. These people are not looking at this as right or wrong. They're looking at this ethically differently. They're looking at it as an operational sort of ethics where they are making decisions that they think make America better or safer. So they're not like, don't get hung up on the right to like on the left and the right of this.

Because it is supersede, this is way above that. I couldn't disagree with you more. You can't get it. No, people can understand this. Right. The politicians who. either love Trump or don't, they're not using, that's not what they're applying to how they're operating in this realm.

Well, this, as we proved earlier today, we were going to talk about that subject for 15 minutes. We're talking about 45. So if we keep going on here, we're going to be here for another hour and we've got any questions. But I appreciate, look, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you reading it and give me your thoughts honestly. I read it twice. I read it the second time for fun. Thank you very much.

I appreciate it. All right. All right. All right. So ringing endorsement from Saul. Yeah. Thank God, I was nervous. I was like, oh, God, he's going to come here.

I took it. I took a shot with having him come out here and talk about it. But that was my, look, I got to be able to try to get the people who are, like, you got to get them quick. And I'll tell you, Martini has, she's so good, dude. She writes, her jokes are solid, our back and forth has been really wonderful. And I can't make, I can't wait to get this, get this moving. Yeah, yeah, looking forward to it. All right, here we go.

All right. We're starting with a new member. Hey, Shanks became a new new, new, YouTube member, and I appreciate that very much so. Thank you, Shanks. Good time to do it for sure. Greenie from Oz. I love you, Christian, but I don't think UFO podcasts will become mainstream.

I remember I said the podcast are going to be mainstream. The only thing the mainstream is that does politics. I didn't say the podcasts were going to be mainstream. I'm talking about the topic in general, and I don't even necessarily know if it would be. It's a matter of the, if this documentary is going to do anything. So we'll see. He also says, I believe it's just a sciat man. That to me, the sci-up thing is that's someone who doesn't pay attention to this stuff.

To keep the masses distracting me, problem again, you're just not, you're greening, you're not paying it. That's someone who doesn't, isn't, I've heard this before. That's why I say this. It's just someone who's not educated enough in what's been going on with the topic to say, oh, I guarantee it's just someone pretending to throw this out. I would ask you this, Greenie. How much of the 2023 hearing did you pay attention to? Who is David Grush?

Who is, if you can answer me all those questions, then I'll take you serious, But I can't. The degeneracy and ultimately the destruction of the West. Yeah, I, I can't, I love you, Greenie. You're very, you're very involved here. But I, that, that comment I don't take, I would take it seriously is the fact that, you know, Mando and Grogu is going to make $2 billion at the box office. Anybody who's eye up, it loses me a idiot. Yeah, yeah. Greenie from Oz. So last question, is the, is the, any advice for those writing scripts today? And should they let modern politics influence their whether we be left and right? I'm struggling with that a bit. I mean, no. Look, I mean, I'll let John answer this in his way, too, but I think this is, this to me is a very, it's opposed to I didn't agree with any word that was in your last question. This one, I think, is a very solid question. You've got to write the story that you believe in. You've got to write the story that you want to tell. You've got to say the things that you want to say. And if it's, if that's what's going on and that's true to the characters in general, and that's true, then you're, then you. should write it. Look, even in my script, there are things that I know that some characters say that are not politically correct, but I have a balance of somebody in there in the script that is basically going to keep other people going, well, wait a minute. And this conversation that's being had, right? We're just talking about after the hunt. There's a lot of stuff in there that a lot of

people go, wait a minute, you're going against what we try to set up. Our team set this up and you're going against it. But Luke didn't give a shit. You went through and he did it. So, John, how do you feel about this? Yeah, I mean, it's always right. What you're, you want to write. Don't write for anyone else or any group, write what you want to write, because that's going to become more authentic. And there are plenty of things that are universal, regardless of political influence. So that will make your script timeless if it's a universal script. But if you have a particular point of view, then lean into it and write the script from that point of view because you got to write from what you want to do. But writing for other people,

you're never going to find success, writing for what you think other people want. No, I mean, look, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if, this, this happens all the time and it happened when I was working at Warner Bros. So if you have a project and let's say you have a script, but the writer on the script is just not hitting it and did everything that we can. Well, you know, Greenie from Oz just wrote that thing. Why don't we give them, let Greenie come in and we'll have, have the conversation about the thing, see what his take will be like, hey, we really want you to go in that direction. can you make that happen and your hired gun, then that's very different. Yeah, like a writer's room.

That's completely different. Correct. But if you're writing, you write for yourself. Connor Mollis, how about them Cowboys, Roka? Yeah. Same Cowboys that lost to the Panthers? Is that the same Cowboys? So, you know, take it with a grain of salt.

Plus, Janiels went out in the third quarter. So, you know, take it with a great. Giants game is heartbreaking. Oh, dude. Heartbreaking. I was shocked watching that on Red Zone. Jay Anderson, tuning into Chicago today, Pizza Spock Rex, Chicago, I don't know enough about it.

You know, I don't know if you follow Frankie Janish on Chicago, on Chicago, on any of the platforms, but you should ask him. He's a very, he knows Chicago places very well. Frankie would know. Frankie would know. Ask Frankie, Frankie numbers. Like, I got to have Frankie numbers back on the show. I miss Frankie.

Yeah. I love Frank. Frank. He's such a good guy. I miss Frank. Agreed. Yeah. Go pal.

Early support. Thank you, go pal. Yeah, I got to reach out to Frank. Do you ever have Frankie on? No, he's come on the gentleman. A few times. Whenever Laura or Kevin can't make it, Frank is always kind enough to come on,

and it's always a great discussion. He's the best. Hank Pimp is Phoebe K's the most iconic nudity scene ever. It's in the top 10. Yeah. It's in the top 10. Probably. Probably.

I mean, Marco Robbie and Wolf of Wall Street, that's up there as well. There's a lot of good ones. There's a lot of good ones. you know what's a good one that would be for the 80s and it has not gotten past the 80s but any kid in the 80s knew it and just one of the guys. Oh yeah, right.

That's right. Yeah, yeah. Okay, Nathan Drake, where is Brett to discuss UAPs? Nowhere near the situation. Greenie, the great state of Israel, all culture. Come on, let's, we're doing, I mean, I guess I opened it up with the UIP topic. Yeah, but that doesn't lead to other. It's different.

It shouldn't, yeah. Yes, boy. Harla. Roka, listen to me right now. I'm not going to lie. I got to admit it, but damn it. AI booked a pretty banger smacked down on that Friday. What happened?

Did they, is it, is, did they say that they mess around with that? Is it just terrible? Yeah, it was not the greatest. Yeah. What's been, I've been paying attention to it at all? Yeah, a little bit. I've been catching the highlights and stuff of that nature, but not watching full shows much.

You know, I didn't even do a watch long from those recent premium live events. Yeah. Which is it was a 5 a.m. But, yeah. Green is going nuts today. What are you doing, Greenie? Okay, I'll give him a call. I probably end up going to jail for this before the UK.

And then here you go. He finishes up, Ozzy, Ozzy, Oz, O, yo, there you go. That's okay. I don't know what, I don't know, green. What happened here today? Yeah, what's going on down, Australia? I don't know what's going on with Greenie today. Greeny is usually one of the big, the big positive people.

in the chat. 41 so far, John. Pretty good. Let's go. Let's get to 100. Come on, everybody. Help me win this week. Wow. Jesus. Where's your solid evidence for other? Any of you folks read 1984? Again, I ask you the same questions. How much do you know again? Or is it just you cash-I can't. I can't. I can't repeat myself, Greenie. I can't.

I can't repeat myself. I'm going to, same thing. How much have you paid attention to it? These are the conversations. Like, like I said, it's one thing. if someone is very well read up on what's been going on and can go back and forth and I can ask them about the 1967, you know, the stuff that happened in the nuclear stuff. I can ask them about the things that happen in, you know, in the South Africa. I can, if I can ask, and they have, and they can say, well, no, actually, when Schumer brought the UAPDIA bill at the end of last year and a year before, when those drones were going over Langley, and here's my reason why I don't think that is, you can't say any

that greening. You're just going up, you're doing sheep mentality stuff. And it drives me nuts. It drives me nuts. I hate sheet mentality stuff because it's just you're following the flock. You don't have a, yeah, I can be wrong. If you, if you're actually paying attention to it and listen, you can tell me who Carl Nell is, Eric Davis and all that. You can tell me those things.

Then I was, oh, well, then I'm wrong. The little Yankee. Support for the occasional X-Files Monday on the Kishol. Respect for Roka, seemingly being the voice of the common person. That's why I had him on. I mean, well, he's going to be on anyway, but that's why I brought it up in this topic. and why I'd like to have them. The channel,

but the other channel is called Down to Earth with Christian Harlow, by the way, I would love to have John on there. I think, I think it represents in the way that we used to have DJ on there. I think it represents the, exactly,

the common person. And there's, I think that the way, if you look at it, the way that John presented himself, very different in the way that Greenie did. And that's how, you know,

and again, I love, Greenie's been supportive of the channel. And just today, we're on different sides of things because he's presenting himself in that way that I can't I can't stand it what is that it's a balloon how do you know that John's not think a balloon but he's saying look let's let's look at other things and see how it is like every like that guy Nick West yeah balloon the balloon

the balloon but you're in the middle of in middle of Iraq over a base it's a balloon it's a balloon you're a balloon an idiot there this guy's the worst um all right let's see next one after that little Yankee all this uap and the Fred's got us still closed and the Fed oh no no I know what he's saying all this you AP and the federal government is so close what he meant uh won visuals rogan how does that man united wind taste christian blue jays uh oh sorry I thought you were saying the blue jays mariner's or dodgers big fan of today's crew have a have a great week just joking roka um so my answer to that is I couldn't give a shit

is the answer of who blue jays mariners or dodgers um and i was going to say i'll pull for the dodgers for the l a connection but i'm actually pulling for the mariners overall because my friend adam ray he's a big the mariners that never won the uh the championship he's a die hard seattle fan always choked so always have but they and they're doing it now it's three two they might shot they might yeah go back to that we'll see yeah blue jays knocked out the yank so i don't want then. If it's Blue Jays versus Dodgers, I'm pulling for the Dodgers. If it's the Dodgers Mariners, I'll pull for the Mariners. Yeah, I mean, I was a Dodgers fan in LA.

I went to the season tickets for the, so I will always pull for the Dodgers. But I just think objectively, they have the way more stronger team of the three teams that are left. And that pitching is just astronomical pitch. Yeah, it's true. The Lil Yankee, Fed God's type. I meant to say Fed good. We got it. Greenie from Gniz didn't mean to cause trouble because I've been fans of 2014's being anti-technistic. First of all, like I said, I know how long you've been a fan. You've been great. All the time you are. Today, this is the one that kind of scratches your balls. I get it.

But I just don't, I just don't agree with you. There you go. Greenie from Oz also says, what's the Australian film industry missing? Films? No, just good. I don't know. What is it? Stars? I would say stars, because they always leave. The stars always leave to come be famous here in the States like Chris Emsworth. Right? I mean, that's the thing that's missing is, you guys can't keep your stars you're a feeder system that's kind of how it works uh milton duffy research ashton forbes well milton clearly you don't watch the down to earth with christian olive channel i interviewed ashton forbs uh gorgon stare and m hs sure very aware of of all of that i don't know if john necessarily is but um m h 370 i'm aware of but i don't know the gorgans

but the mh 370 ashton forbes is convinced that um with the footage that had come out You've seen the thing with the, with the orbs that they said that potentially that it was anti-gravity that took it away. Right. Right. So he's convinced that it was anti-gravity technology. Hmm. So anyway. So.

They would kill these people. If they were necessarily killed, who knows? I don't know. But that's what he believes. That one, I just, I interviewed him. I had conversations. I listened to it. It was fascinating.

Riley and I interviewed. him. It was a fascinating conversation. But yeah, I mean, he's very much convinced. This is his whole thing. It's the anti-gravity stuff. Jake, going through a rough time right now, I had to cut my phobic data on my life. I'm sorry about that.

Jake, Christian, your videos are keeping me sane. First of all, I'm sorry they would go through that. Secondly, I'm glad that we can give you some, you know, laughs and entertainment to keep you keep going over there and we'll continue to do so. So thank you, Jack. Thank you for being honest. Very kind to share that kind of pain. A lot of people going through that stuff.

Jake. So, you know, yeah, find your solace where you can. Sympathy of all things. John, what's the name of your weight loss program? Awaken180 weight loss.com. Go and head over there and see if they can help you. I'm at 55 pounds now. I love that. Yeah. Slow, slow. Now I'm slowing down. Like I'm not, I was a lot at first and now just kind of trickling every couple every week. So I can give you the program. I can give you the program that I'm working. Do you, you want to hit the gym? Not ready yet. Winston started hitting the gym now. Winston's got to. I heard. days a week i heard i got him on the program yeah um thanks to ming caught and rudder london calling saw roofman i'm really i'm glad i did did you see it yet not yet no dude i love it for sure it's it's in my top 10 for sure yeah easily crazy true story tatum and dunce had great chemistry they really did

we'll catch the show tomorrow they really had great chemistry i love that movie it might even my top five i don't know yet wow i love that movie i absolutely love that movie it's my favorite derrick seeing France movie for sure. I know we talked about it last week you and I. Jeff liked it too. He saw it. Okay. I loved it. Absolutely love it. Okay. Mike Joyce. Julia Roberts looked incredible in that sweater at the end of the hunt. Too bad the movie wasn't half as good as she looked in that scene. Well, that's probably true. But as far as the, I think we like the movie better than you did. It may not be politically correct to say this and so be it. But I think Iowa is the problem the movie isn't 100% great. You don't think you don't think

she was great in it? No, I don't think so. I think there, I think she does great stuff on the bear. I think she's a good actress. I think this film was a little bit beyond where she's at as a talent. You think she was out of her depth? Yeah, because too much of it was like, and as an actor I'm watching, too much was performative of the blinking, moving, like acting off the beat. And I get what she was doing, because you're not, you're not sure if you're supposed to like this person or not. But I think there was a way to do it without being so showy and playing in your

tactics or tricks that she does. as an actress. And so for me, I think that took away a little bit from the movie. So I think if you, like, if that had been Zendaya, it's a whole other conversation. You know what I'm going to say? I want to give, I mean, I don't know if a lot of people are going to care. So I want to give, I'm going to give a warning here. I'm going to give a, spoiler for after the hot, real book. I don't know anybody's going to care or not or not, but I, but I'm going to give a spoiler here. And I'll even, I'll do this thing. If we still have it. Let me see. Look at it. So there it is. I'm putting this up there. So that way

people know if you're going to see the movie there's something that so let me ask you a question okay who do you who do you believe from what you've in in the whole thing we don't have to go into whole all those spoilers but yeah who do you believe and then I'm going to tell you why I believe who here's what I believe yeah I believe them both I believe something happened yeah and I believe he isn't willing to accept that he has this gear and she made more of it

than actually happened. I think the incident happened and both used that to push their narratives. And I like that the film makes you question them both by the end so you have to ask yourself, who do you believe?

So I believe something happened. I believe lines were crossed. But I don't know if the lines were crossed as far as one person says they were and certainly not crossed less than the other person says they were. I think he was a douche and she knew that, you know,

maybe he had maybe crossed the line or could cross the line or clearly, you know, that might be true. I think she fabricated it. And I'll tell you why. Okay. There is a moment right before the accusation comes out where she's all by herself in her room. Yeah. And it's right after the alleged incident.

Yeah. And she's thinking and she smirks. Yeah. yeah that to me goes what was she plotting what was she thinking why she's why she's smirking if that was the case but anyway yeah also in where Julia hugs her and she's like kind of looking up like she's performing the hug yeah yeah and she's like holding her hand and other things too to get like the sympathy anyway that's my thought that's that's it I was just curious um see what John thought but uh and I want to see what other people

thought uh okay we are back doing the question sorry sorry battery battery go fuck yourself Wait. Julia Roberts is looking rough lately. Boy, boy, you would be, you'd be on your nanda knees if she looked at you even slightly remotely interested. John Rokin'n, Offender Roberts. All right. I mean, come on.

There are some things that are gorgeous. Absolutely stunning. It looks great now. I love how she's aging. I couldn't agree with you more. She's more attractive now than she was when she was. But she's also, she's just letting age do. Yes, she's a woman.

And she's embracing it. Some of these people who've left these, like, you can't even tell it that it's their face anymore. Yeah. It's like Bill Burr says. There's no hat for your face. Look at Cheryl Hines now. I mean, that's there, that, she's all over the news doing the interviews. Her plastic surgery is horrific.

It's just, look, I get it. I understand. I understand there's things that people want to do, you know, people want to try to hold on to use. I was, I get it. I understand it. But sometimes it's just like you're, people get addicted to it like anything else. And it's not, and it's just not great. I would much rather.

Anyway, okay. So we got 49 so far. Greenie from Oz. You guys should do a top 10 scenes in the month or quarter to put it on Patreon and sell it to screenwriters. We're chasing the hook. I don't know how much more time I got. I know.

Let's see. Okay. Nathan Drake. I thought Tron Ares was kind of dull. and so was Leto or Crescent. Even after your hype, I went to see Roofman and I loved it.

Is Tatum get a nom? I don't know if he's going to get a nom, but I wouldn't be mad if he did. So, Tron Ares was, I think story-wise, I agree, was dull.

I couldn't agree more. I just think that visually, I thought it was. Visually, it was amazing. It was amazing. And I didn't mind Letto. I thought Lotto was actually

probably the best thing about the movie. But, yeah, I'll hype Roof Man up all day long. Yeah, so I don't think he gets a nom, John. Yeah, no, there's no way. It's not that kind of film that we'd get a nom, you know? If you're going to do it, you're going to give it to The Rock. Greenie from Oz also, why do I feel like I'm the only screenwriter,

you're asking these questions also. F Disney, they're all juice controlled. What's juice controlled? What does that mean? What's juice controlled? I think Greenie broke this. What's been to Greenie today? I don't know.

Mike just glad to see you were out there on Saturday, Roca. Yes, thank you. It was a fun time. and really great spirit. And I appreciate it being out there. There was a lot of fun people out there. And none of us were paid. Greenie from Oz.

Hulk movie. I'll see that bashing red skull. What is it? Greenie, what's going on? Listen, go on to my UAP channel. I have a,

I have cornbread hemp as a sponsor. You need some. That's sinister McCall. Advice for two point of view books. Should I make a one POV chapter and the other odds? if a chapter ends in a cliffhanger, should the reader have to wait? Oh, man, I don't know.

I would say so, yeah. I mean, I've read a lot of books like that. Grisham writes books like that where like you're left on a cliffhanger in one chapter and then you spend the chapter reading about the other story. Yeah, it's good. It keeps it fresh. I would absolutely say that for sure. Yeah, I don't have enough on it.

I'm not sure. Don't be caught up and don't be caught up in comparing the chapters and equal either. Yeah. Go, pal. Happy birthday, Roka. Thank you. It's on Thursday. Thank you for the early one.

Appreciate it. Yeah, Thursday. Okay. Josh Vaskovich, have you guys discussed on his performance? So I was watching something with, I think it was just the news with my wife. And she's like, you know, because he hit three home runs. And plus pitch him. He pitched a two hitter.

Right. Like this isn't like, imagine Reggie Jackson hitting those three home runs and then pitch it. It's like, so she's like, is that rare? I'm like, it's beyond rare. It's, it's Babe Ruth. Yeah. It's beyond rare. And not even Babe Ruth.

Baybrod didn't even do that. Three home runs and then pitching, like, it's insane. People don't understand how insane it is to keep up that kind of, I mean, because you don't remember until when when you think about pitchers, I remember when Bart, what's Bart, uh, what's, Bartama Colon hit that home run. And it was like, crazy. And this guy's hitting three. Yeah. And he's like, he's one of the best hitters in baseball. If not the best hit.

One of them was outside the stadium. It was hit so hard. It's nuts. It's nuts. It's nuts. So, no, we haven't. We just talked about it. Paul Hitchcock.

Hey, Christian, something is stuck. Stunk in Denver yesterday. The Giants. It's true. I don't do something stinks in Denmark, John. I do something stinks in Denver. Had a 19 point lead and lost it. It was horrible.

It's over, Jackson. We have the mile. Yeah, it was hard. It was a heart break. Hard break. Yeah, but I think you, if you're a Giants fan, I think you can't be anything but excited. The kid led them on a game-winning drive and could have won the game if they hadn't,

if Denver hadn't come down and kick that field goal. Yeah. That shows guts. That shows strength. And you can't discount that. You know, that kid's for real, Jackson Thorpe. Go pal. Either you remember the movie Saul Good.

Which one is that? So good. I sound somewhat familiar. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Aiden Majuba.

Harry McGuire. Sure. RC. The DCU feels like Jay and Tyler Bob could pop up in any moment. The jokes and tone feel like they're in the same universe. Potentially, don't get John started, though. Yeah, don't get started. Josh Vaskovich, favorite Springsteen song or album, I really, Tom Jode, I love. Oh, God, Tom Jod's so good. Big fan of Tom Jod. Traft is another great one that I love by Springsteen. Favorite album, I mean, man, is there's a lot of different I'm saying,

I like his live one that he did. Let me see, I'll tell you which one, which is the one that I, I mean, Nebraska is always going to be my favorite, but, yeah,

it's a good one. And I love, and born in the USA, was the one that got me into spring. Sure, sure. But tunnel of love will always be my favorite. I like that.

I mean, for no, look, live 75 to 85 to you. Oh, it's a great one. Live in New York City is also another one that I, that I love. That's from 2001.

Um, there's, I mean, racing in the street live is a good one from 2020. There's just, I mean, there's a lot of his live stuff. Have you ever seen him live? Uh, no, I've never seen him live. I've seen him watch twice. Regrets of my life. I've seen him on twice. Um, yeah.

Okay, let's see. So now we're at 55 as we're moving down here to. Jake, my Mariners are playing game seven tonight, their first ever world series appearance on the line. I know. I'm with you, Jay. Look, I'm pulling for you guys. I'm pulling you guys. Pull out that trident.

Yep. Greenie from Oz, politics got me today. Sorry, lads. Fair enough. Gareth Tusson, agree with Jeff with too many films. How do these movies get enough box office after the Hunt, Roofman, good fortune, BP2 all on the same day in the UK. It's weird.

You got to hope that they live well on streaming. That's where these movies have their second line. Yeah, I think that you know, you hear the drumbeat getting loud on a ladder that people aren't going to see movies anymore in the numbers that they did. and the people outside of the bubble of moviegoers are the ones who are not going at the numbers that they used to go. That's really what's hurting the movie industry right now. And yeah, you know,

I said this years ago on a Collider Mailbag that eventually going to a movie is going to be like going to the theater or Broadway. The tickets are going to be a little more expensive, but you're going to get the optimal experience, but it's very much going to be only certain movies and everything else is going to go straight to the house streaming. Nathan Drake, going to Dodgers, afraid of the wind.

Ask Winston that. Yeah, is he is he a Dodgers fan again? Oh, Donnie's the best player. Yeah, Asel. Happy birthday week, looks like we share a birthday, mine's on the 24th. So I hope you have a good birthday, whatever day that might be. Thursday.

You too. You too. Levi movie pitch, D's nuts undisclosed, big balls being abducted by aliens, filmed in black and white, A-24 produced. Roka narrates the story. Yeah. Okay. Hey, listen, Roka.

You know what's I'm going to do? What's that? I'm going to say, hello. I'm going to go, listen. I like, I like aliens. I like, yeah, I like to get probed. That's right. Yeah.

Oh, what do you mean? No, you do too. Come on, you son of a bitch. No. I say, listen, I say, you ever see ET? Yeah, I'll be going home over here. Oh, my nuts. Come on, my nuts.

There's a reason they call you big balls, a not small pecker because I don't know what you're probing with that small little pecker ears. Oh, that's just, that's just when it's nice and limp, wait until it gets, I can, I can set bridges. Yeah, I had a rhinoceros cross over at once. Yeah, yeah, that's what they say. Yeah. Okay. It's nice to see you outlaw. Yeah, good to see you. Yeah, he goes, he's going to probe. Big balls.

G. Big balls in G. Uh, where I can't, we now I can't find the two shot. There is. Found it. Okay, I mean, reverse. It's just a problem. We got, we gotta get a big,

we gotta get a big ball setting. Yeah. Which is perfect. You know, this is the problem with realizing that, um, what I do for a living, but the big ball segment came up and my eight year old goes,

who's big balls? Uh, where the hell is this? Yeah, so, uh, let me find this real quick, John.

Here it is, boom. All right. Going back over and we got, Greenie from Oz who says feeder system, I hope to prove you wrong. I don't know what that means. Talk about the Australian film industry.

Good luck. But if you can pay what they pay in America, then you can keep them. But if you can't, you're not going to keep them. Let's see. Fargo Robbie, Mel Gibson, Chris Hemsworth, you know, Russell Crow. A lot of Australians have come over and come successful

and didn't stand. and even Hugo Weaving, who was arguably one of the most Australian film actors has come over for the last decades. He's pretty good. Greeny from Oz, Ozzie Simmons, tell me something you love to see from it. I'm starting with my first uni film course, 2006 film school, Ozzie Steyler. Any advice I appreciate it, bro. Broca, what do you think? So, Ozzie, tell me something you love to see from it.

I mean, I don't, it's so hard for me to say. To be honestly, my favorite one was, what was the, not the, what was the proposition? It was a great Western. Oh, it's a great Western. Australian Western. What my favorite Australian films? Yeah, Guy Pearce. Another guy who's come over here and become successful.

Yeah, yeah. So you guys make good movies. It's not a matter of the quality of the movies. It's a matter of like, you know, how much these movies are budgeted at, what they look like. And so, you know, Australian, there's some good Australian movies. I mean, one of my favorite movies ever was proof with, with Hugo Weaving as a blind guy. And if you haven't seen that, it's incredible. Russell Crow had one where I think he was gay and his father.

was dealing with him being gay. And so there are some good Australian movies. Yeah, budget strictly ballroom. It's just the budget is the living. Okay, so let's see. After that, 59 so far. Hey, come on. It's good. Can we get to 100 before? I don't know. Greenie from us. Greenie from Oz is probably put in like the 40.

Thank you, Greenie. For those in the last stream, react to my comments, respect, when you come to Australian Roca or Christian, hit me up. Yeah. Been there twice. Yeah. Casey Grant, same facts. There you go.

Okay, let's see. Next one. I can tell you, again, you saw how close I was sitting. Yeah. He lost the beat. Greeny from us, where do you think Rhea and Bronson Reed grew up? I don't know. I'm sure you can look in their bios.

Yeah. You'll find out. Yeah. Go, pal. I haven't seen the Julian movie, but Christian's comments around me a pretty persuasion with Evan Rachel Wood. I never saw that one either. I'll tell you, and Chloe, Chloe, Syvagney's not getting enough.

she was good in a movie too. Yeah, she was only for five minutes of the movie. No, she's not in a lot of it. So frustrating. She's such a great actress. I wanted more from her. Yeah. Same. Christian Madar, Task is one of the best shows this year.

It's a good finale. Great finale. Great finale. Yeah. Paul Hitchcock. John Rocha. Look at Cheryl Hines. Me. Pass. All right, let's see. After the 61 so far, crashing coyote.

Robbie from Task should play a scarecrow. Hush, you should do anything that they want, that anything, you can get him to do anything. You should get him. He's great. And I could see him as a Batman. I was so impressed by him. So impressed. I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be against it. I don't, if somebody, Rock,

Roxy asked me, do I think he could play it back? I don't know. You know someone, someone suggested that I think it would be great. Is Harvey dead? Oh, yeah. Right? Sure. Great as Harvey. He's amazing. Blake Gilbert. Well, Blake, thank you, man. Wow. It's huge.

hear rumors that Tobias Menzies, who was an F1, might play Amadeus Arkham in the Batman Part 2. Wonder if they incorporate in the 89 graphic novel story of that character from Arkham Asylum, A Serious House and Serious Earth, maybe in flashbacks? I don't John, what do you think, but that's crazy. Yeah, I think. First of all, I love Tobias. This is a fantastic actor. I loved him since Rome. Okay. And yes, he was great in F1.

He's great. Everything he does. In The Crown, he's fantastic. So getting him to play Amadez Arcom, I think, is great. He's got that air, that kind of superiority air. And if he does, if they go that route and he devolves into the mania that he dissolves in in these storylines, I think he'd be a fascinating character to add to the mix when you're going into a sequel of the Batman. Because remember, the first Batman explored the issue with his parents and the Waynes and

what they were doing and their connection of the rich people and the shortcuts they took. So yeah, I could see it. Let's see. I don't have, see, Tobias Menzius. Let me see, which one was Tobias? She was the antagonist in F1, the Brad Pitt movie. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's in Game of Thrones. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, he was also in Outlander.

I didn't, the only reason I know that is because my wife religiously watched and I walked in and I go, hey, yeah, he's great. Yeah, he's great. He's really, really good. So he was in my play. That's anything you can put him in as another guy. Elevates the project. Right.

For sure. All the actors they want to bring in these high level actors. Yeah, I don't know enough. about the rest of it, unfortunately. But, okay, let's see. Saul, haven't ruled out a SIOP, but usually they're not this scale to public. They literally raise the stakes to congressional testimony.

That's really messy and almost is he's saying it is, and almost as his trigger is disclosure. I'm just saying the fact that even can, since he hasn't ruled it out, which means it's a possibility. You got, you got to, yeah.

I, now here's what I will say. I don't think that there aren't people involved. that they're used to certain people who they say are probably sciops and there are other people who are plants and other things too I think that is very very possible but the whole overall thing no uh greenie from oz yo roca tell her if you check out lawrence of arabia me and my dad went to sumpal too to see his memory was pretty effing cool yeah you know i've never seen laurence rave yeah you got to see i know almost four hours i know is that one of your favorites taking an hour a day it's in top five yeah or sure ever yeah uh armada did did y'all see you all see You know, I don't know if I should tell that story.

It's a great Peter O'Toole story. I'll tell you, I'll tell you off here. You know Peter O'Toole story? This is amazing. It's a, it's a good one. Okay. I don't think they'd mind. So I was, I was dating someone.

What was to say I was dating someone that had worked with Peter O'T? Oh, okay. And, and when we started dating, said the advice I got from Peter O'Toole was never date a fan. And I won't start. going like this and she said what are you doing i said i'm canceling this description to your uh to your show i'm no longer subscriber to your show um and i got a big laugh armada did you all see the lost bus yet no i didn't see it any good yeah it was really good mccaneh is could be an outside a chance at a nomination off that movie him in america frere are really good it's a true story about the

fires that happened in 2019 in california it's pretty good yeah i oh yeah very good legend of 600 let's go Seattle our last chance this tonight. I'm actually now I'm not going to tell you be quiet because I actually want you to win. Poo the weenie, sorry about your giants, go Broncos. Well, yeah, it was a disaster. What can I say? It was a disaster.

Josh Vascovic, speaking of Ozzy films, you guys are 80s kids. You either remember you Fortress. Oh, God. Which one's Fortress? From Christopher Lambert. Oh, I don't remember. In Highlander, dude.

Yeah, when they were trying to make him a thing. No, I don't remember that. He's not a good actor, Christopher. No. Oh, he's good in Tarz. in though. You ever Tarzan? He's good in Tarzan.

Bristoke. Yeah, it was good. Armada, is Daniel Jones the real deal in indie? Hashtag for the shoe? Well, they haven't played anybody of note. Chargers are a broken team. The Broncos, yeah, but like they haven't really played anybody

of note. When they play the Steelers later this year and the Chiefs, we'll see where the Colts are at that point. But yeah, they're doing what they need to do when their offense looks great, but against crappy teams. Let's see. Scott Cross. Don't agree with Rokon more than a few things, but damn, that Latino charm.

Happy early 80th, you party, animals. Thank you. Do you guys have a favorite movie poster? I'll tell you one of my favorite ones that have somewhere. I don't know where the hell it is, but it's the dark night one with the Joker painting the face. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love that one.

I don't know if I've got a favorite movie. I don't have ever thought of a favorite movie poster. Yeah. Anthony Nugent. Australia might be losing its actors to you, but you're losing productions to everyone. Facts. Well, sure. Absolutely.

too much right yeah 100% uh battery how was no king's mr woke i have fun happy just ignore no no it's okay i did have fun and it was great and uh if i look this good at 85 look how bad you look at 30 i mean like you know do your work go pal just saw a headline fast pender's going to play joe kennedy senior on netflix series sounds interesting fast pender i'm always interested he's great yeah kennedy senior was a interestingly corrupt guy Yep. Nathan Drake. Is battery really evil John Madden? Oh, that's funny. I don't think so. I think they're very different, very different points of views. Michael, what's up, Michael? Everyone's having their birthday this week. Mine's a 20th. Happy birthday. So, happy birthday, Jr. Speaking of Aussie talent, may I suggest the Rover with Guy Pear with Guy Pearce. Rover I've seen? Yeah. It's great. That was the one I suggested to everybody to when he was up for Batman. I said, you know, watch that.

Great film. It's a great film. Yeah. Really, really good. Yeah. Holy, moly, Greeny. Hey. Look at Greeny. Whoa.

Wow, Greenie. Ria and Reed both grew up in my city of Alley. It's same. Philpals who made to bring her back to talk to me. I'd like to be the fourth or fifth book of what I land on the map. Also, Roke, listen to your Lawrence Pott with Crush three times, a lot of my apprenticeship. Oh, thanks. Greenie.

One and a half of Greenie. Greenie, look, everything that Greenie today has earned everything that he did. From the beginning to the end. What a battle. What a battle. he had today. Yeah. Ending it strong there.

So you start my pod, yeah, which is the phenophiles pod. I just want to give a click plug. Yeah, please, please. I think we did that one with, with Rachel Cushing, who was our guest for the Lawrence of Arabia episodes. And we're currently doing Scarface.

Part two just dropped over the weekend. So if you guys want a list of that, you can, wherever you download podcasts. Anyway, sorry, go ahead. That's okay. So it's 70 with Greenie's last one. Hey. He didn't have drank too much.

There it is. His last one, he meant to put in $1.59. Yeah. Thank you, Green. It was very, very nice. It was amazing. Okay, look, 70. It's a good start to a Monday.

Thank you. Yeah, I would say Greenie put in 83% of those. So thank you to Greenie today. You guys appreciate you being here. As always, we're on Apple Podcast, Spotify. Anywhere, podcast, if you want to watch our show, if you can't watch it all every week or every day, you can watch it on the Clips Channel.

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And thanks for putting up with all of our conversations today. Take out. Peace. And great to see you, Tech, Peter. So, yeah, thank you to Tech, Peter. Thank you to Roka for being here. Thank you to you guys,

screener. Everybody who put together any questions, whether it was the super chats, whether it was part of the big live chat in general today. Oh, Greenie from us, saying, Mercury, there's two more. Mercury, Hard Siders, I don't know what that means, Greeny, but I appreciate it.

Battery, we are the aliens. You're not ready for that, though. Also, a theory that has been, trust me, battery. I have, all these, go to the UAP channel. All these things have been covered in more. Thank you guys so very much. much. I appreciate you. I appreciate everybody for being here. A legend says if you're

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