The Kristian Harloff Show - Wolverine and Deadpool Together at Last! Hugh Jackman Returns - The Big Thing

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

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Hello, everybody. Happy Thursday. What a day it is today. It's a day. It's another day. What are you pointing at? What are you got? The big screen, why it's cut off? Yeah. Yeah, it needs to be at the moment. Hi. How are you guys?

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It's Roxy's on the show, Brett's on the show. We have so much news to talk about. This Deadpool thing, House of the Dragon, Blades getting a new director. I mean, there's so much. That's just, that's one of many things. This Dahmer show everyone's talking about.

Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot to talk about. I pulled a lot of stories today, and I can't wait to talk about it with Rocks and Brett. So, let's get into this the big thing. Yeah, that's what I said. Howdy-do-do-do-do. What's up, everybody, Thursday, Thursday?

Roxie Stryer's here. Yeah. Brett Sheridan's here with Yoda. I asked Brett. beforehand. I said, you want Yoda in that shot? He's like, I kind of like him. Makes me happy.

It's Yoda's birthday, apparently. Is it? Talk to your match on him. Yeah. And look at that shot. Roxy, what do you think in the studio thus far? It's looking sick from the camera angles. Not bad, right?

Yeah. I know from the camera angles. That's very true. Right. So you could see, if you could see the other side of the studio, it is a disaster at the moment. Like, you have to like tiptoe in order to even get in this place. But this. Yeah, it looks really good.

It's a good disaster to have, though. It is, of course. It's stuff that still needs to be built and put up. And, yeah, I'm not complaining. I am not complaining in the slightest. I am. You are, but you know, you don't have to do anything so I can just come in and say, there's a lot of boxes in here.

Yeah, it's true. And there are, and I'll tell you what, like, look, I'm going to show you this, just for people that want to see, people are like, well, how much is left on the list. That is it. That is all that is left on the list. Who, that yellow chair? What are you thinking? Think about it for guests, right, Brett, because we have, you see the corner of the couch over there,

rocks. Mm-hmm. Like, so we want to put like, kind of. Oh, yes, kind of. I know. We have a special guest that might be coming in either the next week or the

following, which I'll tell you in the second. Okay. But look, that's it. It's a vacuum cleaner. Lens. Coffee. I have special thanks to them for keeping my ass comfortable.

Oh, yeah. This chair is sick. We got new chairs. The chair before was very uncomfortable. It was dining room chairs. And I'm not Steph. I'm not packing back there. So it's just a lot of bone on wood.

It was a situation. But you know what I'm too early for that kind of time. Now I've got bone on cushion, which is much better, much better. What I will tell you is that you've never complained about it until afterwards, which is fine. That's nice. And I would have been okay if you would have complained about it because it's not, it was a necessity. So what happened for me is when I got, when I left, when I left Collider, and I just said, okay, I got to set up some kind of studio. And it was, I think it was Thad, and then you came over for a little bit,

but Thad came over and really set up a lot of these. This was in 2019 and helped me set up. But I didn't have- Pannini? Whoa. I didn't have anything. I didn't have anything. So I was like, okay, Rachel Cushing was generous enough to say, hey, I have a table, a dining room table and chairs that I'm going to throw out.

Do you want it? I was like, I got nothing. So I put those in there. They lasted us for a long time. And Brett- Sorry, but Rachel, your chair sucked in the herb of my house. No, but for the, I mean, for a dinner, it's great. Yes.

To do a shower, a shower? To do a shower with? Yeah, when I tried to shower with that chair, it was not working. It was not working at all. Yeah, but I'm really grateful for the head phones. Headphones, I'm telling you. Because all of a sudden, my head grew two sizes too small, and the headphones were, like, sliding off. I literally look around and say, I'm thankful for these lights that we have.

Yeah. There's this stream deck that I'm using like Nate the Great, right? Nate the Great. So many. First Rate Nate. Yeah, first, me. So many people that donated. It's incredible.

Like there's that clock in the back. And then even people that not even necessarily for the list itself, but like Gentle Giant reached out. Look at all those figurines on the back there with the Storm Shadow and the Cobra Kai and Dark Mall. It's awesome. It's amazing. Follow up questions. How was it possible that every single day that I came into Collider Live, I complained about how the microphone smelled and no microphone here has ever smelled.

We got new cushions. That's part one. What's the common denominator on that? Who knows? There was a lot of people coming in at that studio, to be fair. It was fucking disgusting. The way that it smelled was like, I can't. I'm going to get an STD from being that close to the mic.

Who knows what was going on? But there was a lot of guests coming in and out. And who knows that one of them had halitosis? They make a spray for it too or something. The ones I got new ones on the list because some were actually deteriorating. Yeah, right. You can just take them and soak them in water and clean them off a little. Yeah, no, we replace these and it looks better.

We replaced the, like someone that got us the stands, the new stands, because the stands were really big and they were covering everybody's faces. Totally. And now. Now we got the real money maker. Yeah. I pointed to Brett, but you made it seem like I said myself. Yeah, it's true.

Ian Yoda. Power of ad-a-div-a. The shmode-em-down belts on the, on the shelf, and we got it. got the Shmodown spectacular, the final Shmodown of all time. It's going to be on the Shmodown Archives channel, which is also in the link of the description. You can watch it live October 1st, my birthday. And I'm telling you, man, it's going to be a hell of a show. And I'm excited about it.

And people are asking, because if you go onto the old Shmodown channel, there's no Shmodown matches on there whatsoever. Everything's private. Why would you do that? Because I had to. It was an agreement that I made when Skybound Entertainment was, awesome in everything that went down before we signed with them during and then afterwards. And the agreement that I had with them with all the stuff that they helped produce was that I would only have that material in one particular channel.

And I had to choose. And I chose. And I chose. And the archive channel will be where it lies. And you guys will find all of it. So even if it's not up there now, it will be there eventually. So make sure you subscribe to that channel. But yeah, I was so happy by the way that you made it to the spectacular.

It was a chance that you weren't going to make it. I didn't think I was going to make it. And then I did. I popped by for 45 minutes and I was like, thank freaking gosh. Because you want to know the night before you had texted me and I felt so guilty. Not because you said anything. You were like completely understand. Your dad's in town.

My dad hadn't been here in seven years. And you were like, I get it. Don't worry about it. But then because you were so cool about it, then I was like, fuck, I got to try to go. Like, I was hoping you had been more of a dick. And then the day of Kate texted me and was like, I think it's really weird that you're not here. I did not tell him.

No, no. She didn't say no weird. She was just like, it feels like the last day of senior year. You've been part of this from day one. I'm not pressuring you, but like, it's bizarre that you're not here. And I was like, dad will be back in an hour. And he was like, go, go. You didn't even tell me you out of thing.

Because obviously I didn't because I knew he would say to go, whatever it was. But I was so glad I was able to make it and kind of just like hug everybody and watch some stuff. Did feel like last day and see you. picture with you. Yeah, yeah, I was doing, did we take a picture? We did. I posted it,

man. I know you did, but I was like, but you said it in a way that I didn't know. I did. Yeah, I did.

No, you did. I did. He liked it. He commented. It's on tape. Nice try, Brett. Go back. Look, there's a like.

Just figure it out. I do think he did like it. I did. I think he said something like, good to see you, kid. Yeah. Oh, I did.

Do you understand that this thing's broken sometimes? I mean, who you, who's your woo. Like that, you know. I'm going to bring up the same thing that before we get into the topics that I brought up with Ellis, because it's really becoming a problem.

The dog just keeps whipping his penis out everywhere. Public? Everywhere, Roxy. Public penis. It's a problem. And you know what I didn't mention the other day, Brett? He's hung like a bull, and he's a pug. And it's like, even Sadie last night was like, it's just so disturbing because he, like, he sits down.

And then you just, and it's like this arm comes. out. Is it pink? Yes. It's the problem. It's bad. And he's just like, he's taking a dump. It comes out. He's sitting down waiting for a floor.

Boner or no? Yeah. And then, you know, the kids are like, oh, come on. And he's just, we got, I don't know. Your kids get what's happening? I mean, kind of. They just know that it's coming out. They don't know why.

Is this sex talk age? No. One's five. Yeah, no. Just turned five. That's too young. And the other one's 11. So not yet.

Okay. What, like, that's like, that's like 14 kind of. We'll see. Yeah. There are ones that you can do for little or one.

There's a great book called Mommy laid an egg. And it's, uh, kids asking like, you know, how our baby's made. And the parents just tell them all this bullshit, like storks and all this stuff.

Right, right. And then at the end, the kids go, oh, because I thought the mom put, or the dad put the penis inside of the mom and then left and then the, and then the, it's a great book.

It's, It's like they're making up all this. And then a store that flies in and blah, blah, blah, you know. I wrote it. Go check it out. It's called Mama Leiden A coming Tuesdays this fall. I got to tell you, Brett, I've got to give you some props, man. These shots look good.

Yeah. It really look good. The camera looks good. Studio looks good. Oh. But shot looks best. I'm still going to say, I say yours. I think yours looks the best.

Is it because I'm in it? Maybe. Oh. It could be. So what is just this is going to be really entertaining for the people at home? You guys are so welcome. So why does your shot need to get off on the side? No one heard what you just said.

I mumbled right through it. I've not slept in a really long time. And you normally pretty clear spoken. This is what you just said. So I don't, I don't mean to bore the audience, but I got to ask you this. Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, Hamma, Ham, Sama.

I got what you just said. Why is your shot cut off on the right side? Mine? Yeah. He didn't know. He didn't notice it. Oh, you mean the screen. You're talking about the screen?

No, see that little black area? No, and you said it has to be like that. Nope. No. Oh, okay. I thought you were talking about the, I thought you were talking about the screen itself. I was like, don't.

I was like, don't. We'll just let it go. No, you shouldn't have. It has to be like that, rocks. Well, you don't understand is it has to be like that. Oh, okay. I thought you're talking about the, the big screen. Another thing that was brought by the audience is that screen in the background.

Screen is sick. Or as I like to say, yeah, let's get, let's get into some stuff. What are you thinking of? Let's start with, we're going to double up here. We're going to start with, with Logan. and a comment that was made by James Mangold, right? Director of Indiana Jones, but also obviously director of Logan.

So there's massive news which we'll get into in a moment with Hugh Jackman returning to the role of Wolverine for the upcoming third Deadpool film. And there's a lot of reaction out there with a good chunk of it centered on James Mangold's 2017 film Logan. The film pretty definitively killed off Jackman's character, which led to much speculation about what incarnation we'll see in Deadpool. Three. Mangold himself amusingly weighed in in all the chatter, posting the gift of X-24 impaling the original Logan on a tray. The reaction to that posting was swift and in some cases harsh. Some people either misinterpreted the gift or took it far too seriously. It got bad

enough. The mangle was forced to, a few hours later, clearly, state clearly, excuse me, his actual reaction to the news, to which he tweeted. Oh my gosh, everybody choked. Just kidding. I'm all good. Logan will always be there. multiverse or prequel, time warp, wormhole, canon, or even without a rationale. I cannot wait to see what madness, my dear friends, Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman cookup. Sean Levey will direct the third Deadpool,

which is currently targeting a September, 2024 release. All right, there's a lot here. And we can also talk about the news that yesterday, or when we recorded this, I guess it was on Tuesday. Ryan Reynolds does what Ryan Reynolds does, and he just drops a social media, bomb and says, hey, sorry, D23.

You missed us, but we've been working on Deadpool 3, which everybody thought was happening anyway. But we've been doing some stuff. We've been working on some stuff. We want to make it different because Deadpool's always different. We want to do something big. And we couldn't come up with anything. So we thought of something.

And then Hugh Jackman's walking in the background and he says, Hey, Hugh, you want to play Wolverine one more time? He says, yeah, sure, Ryan, why not? It's a big smirk. And then they announced that he's coming back. and Deadpool's coming back on December, excuse me, what was it? November, 2004, is that what it is? Or is October?

It's like either October or November, 2020. And Roxy's going to look it up, but it's probably September. No, it is. It's September. It is. It's September 2020. Because yesterday, when I was doing the reaction, I said, I go, oh, okay, it's coming out one year.

And I see 2024, I go, good math, asshole. September 6. September 6. It's, it's two years. It's about a little less than two years it's coming out. So that means they've been filming it and doing all that stuff. And people are like, oh, that's too far away. I'm like, it tells you they've been working on it because two years is pretty quick in the long run.

Too far away for what? Because people's taste? People thought that it was potentially going to come out next year. Right, but it's not like we're being held up. Other things are contingent on this. No. They just want it quicker. Well, the question is, is it?

We deserve it quicker. That's right. They've earned it. That's right. The question is this, though, because everybody was talking about X-Men. Yeah. And now it's like, well, wait a minute. Does this hold up X-Men?

Like, what are we not going to get another Wolverine? Are we not going to... This is Hugh Jackman coming back to play him. They're going to continue that storyline. Like, what is it? And I think that what the answer to that question, first of all, I think you're going to start to get peppers in of the X-Men throughout the Marvel Cinematic Universe soon.

I think even... We've already gotten it a little bit. We have in both Ms. Marvel, and I think, and Namor now has confirmed that he's a mutant, that the actor confirmed it. And I think we're going to get even more of that Black Panther. And I think Doom's going to come in, and I think we're going to start playing into X-Men and all of those things real soon. Do you think full-blown storm in Black Panther? I don't think Storm, because I think that they're still in agreement with Fox.

I think that they're, I think you can't use any of the original, you have to use the original actors up until like 2025, I think is the, No matter how many times I look into that, I don't, I can't, no, I can't, I can't, I cannot compute the Fox versus Marvel. Every time somebody says something different to me, like, well, the thing about Spider-Man rights are, and then insert any 5,000 different answers there. I think that the best way that I, I'm not, I'm not going to tell you that I, I have a 100% clear-cut understanding. On which characters can be. From what I, from what I understand, my interpretation of it is this, that the actors, such as huge, Jackman, whether it's Fastbender or McKellen, any of those actors, their contracts still are held up in the fact that if you're going to use any of those characters, Wolverine, Professor

X, any of them, you've got to use those actors because of the contracts that they have with Fox. And Disney took those on as well. Did we do that in Dr. Strange? Yeah. I guess that makes sense. Professor X. And then you're doing it again with Hugh Jackman now. And maybe that was, maybe that was the conversation. Maybe the conversation. Is that good new mutants? Not necessarily because New Mutants was never, was, oh, you mean, I guess they used some of the new

Indians? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, that's why I don't have a clear cut understanding of it. But I can say that it does make a little bit more sense now when you say, okay, well, they use Patrick Stewart. They're using Hugh Jackman again because they go, well, look, we want to use the character. We have the multiverse. So let's just use them.

Plus, this Hugh Jackman and Ryan Rund is going to get them back. And that's probably why they didn't announce anything at D-23, because they're probably be still either finalizing or they didn't want it to take away or to attract from a lot of the other stuff. That's, and I have no idea if that's factual. That's just the way that I have interpreted what I've read. But it does seem to make sense. And then once the, once 2025 hits, that's probably when you start to see, with the

multiverse starting to come to an end, you'll start to see the new casting for Wolverine and Storm and all these people. That's what I would guess. My favorite part of the whole story is, oh my gosh, everybody chill. He just here. I was going to say it's a same. I love him. Gosh, everybody, chill.

It's like, because we can't, we don't let creators be funny or cute anymore. Everything means something. Everybody, everybody looks into everything. If you say something, it's like, law. He's salty. Like, you take out your phone, you tweet something in two seconds thinking, ha-ha, that was clever. And the world's like, what the fuck did you just say?

Social media, man. Yeah. It's insane. He should stay off of it, too, though, too. He should just be focused. He's, he is one of my favorite directors. Really? Oh, I love James.

is Mangold. And that's why, like, I never, like, I have said this. I love Steven Spielberg. I'm never going to, he's one of my favorites of all time. I was way, I would have been way more excited that Mangold was announced to direct Indiana Jones than if Spielberg would have been announced again. I would, I mean, I like, if you want to get input from him and everything, absolutely. It's Steven Spielberg, right? Mangold is, is just at a different level on that type of scale right now. What are you talking about it? I'm just talking about it. Right now, what Spielberg is making at the moment, he's making powerful movies, whether it's the post.

I thought West Side Story is one of his best of what he's done lately. Yeah, the Post. The Post. I mean, movies like that, I think he gets so invested in, he puts, and he's just a great filmmaker, and he does that. The big budget blockbuster movies, they haven't really hit for me with him lately. And I just think that he's done it already. He does, what else do you have more to prove?

Mangled? Mangled right now is just firing. That trailer, man, for Indian, Jones? Holy shit. What are the other Spielberg movies that have happened recently? Recently? Yeah. I mean, if you go in and you look at recently for Spielberg, I mean, Ready Player 1, I

like. I loved that movie. I like it. But it's not like, it's not looked upon as one of the All right, let's see. He made a music video on an iPhone. He sure did. So since 2011, Ventures of Tintin and Warhorse. And I loved, I loved both of those movies, but not And Warhorse is not a big blockbuster movie.

It's more so in the vein of the Post and everything. I love both of those movies, but they're not... 2012, a little bigger with Lincoln. Again, not a blockbuster movie, more so big Oscar movie. So those types of movies he should be doing. 2015, Bridge of Spies. Same thing, Post. 2016, the BFG, which...

Did not do well. Which was, no. I didn't say it. Love that book, though. The Post was 2017. Ready Player 1. 2018, then nothing, 2019, 2020, because it's pandemic. 2021, what's that story.

Look at what he's produced. And his name is all over like things, whether there's Transformers and other things. His name is all over these things produced. Oh, he's executive producing animaniacs. Interesting. Oh, that's what I'm saying, though, is that he, and this is not me just coming up with this thing going, oh, you know what I think Spielberg should do? He's, he's made that decision.

You look at that, that resume that she, that Roxy just read down over it since 2011. He hasn't done a lot of those big movies. He epeed Bumblebee. I didn't know. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think anything with the Transformers franchise has his name on it now. Wow. He has been EPing left and right.

This is wild. He apps left. He apps right. He apps 167 titles. Ooh. Yeah. So. Must be exhausted.

He's directed 62 things. That makes sense. But look, so that's my point. I think that he knows where he is. He knows he's comfortable in his lane right now. Oh, he's got that thing that they announced a while ago. Black Hawk. Okay, is that directing?

That's the war movie, yeah, that he's directing. Oh, I got to ask you. Just separate Black and Hawk when you say that. Yes, please. I am mumbling like a motherfucker. It's all right. So let's stick with Mangold for a moment. Okay, sure, yeah.

So he makes that comment of just chill, relax. It's just, I'm not taking shots in anybody. I'm just kidding around here. And what it does, this is why Marvel can do a lot of these things right now is because of the multiverse. And they've already talked about how the multiverse is going to end in 2025. The multiverse saga comes to an end after the last Avengers, the Kang Dynasty, or whatever it is.

Then it comes to an end. So you're not going to see any more of that type stuff. But if you can do it. I don't think that's true. You don't think they're going to... We're not going to see any more of that. I guarantee you there's little bits and pieces. Maybe, but I think you got to nip it in the bud, though, after a while.

I think it's fun to do it for a few more years and then start focusing. again because yeah Logan is just another it's just a multiverse it's like it's the same thing it's comics in general you could there were tons of stories comic books that didn't all fit into the same timeline that you would it was like a one-off and you read them and that's kind of how I always felt about Logan yeah I mean let's go over to DC for one quick second on it not to say that they're the shill I am a DC show not to say that they're the gold standard right now Speaking of gold standards. Yeah, all right.

Cool, cool. So if we go over in D.C. for one second, people don't seem to be, people aren't half stoked with D.C., but people don't seem to be confused about the fact that we've got Ben Affleck, Robert Pattinson, Michael Keaton was coming back,

possibly as Batman. We'll see what ends up happening there. Then at the same time, there was Batman on Titans, there was Batman in Gotham. There was, you know, there was just like 15. in live action Batman's at one time.

It wasn't really 15, but it was legitimately six all over the place. And people get it. It's Batman. So it's Batman. So Multiverse does work, and I don't think audiences get confused by that, even though people say that they do. But I guess that doesn't mean that we always want to see it that way. We shouldn't

get very messy over there. It has. And well, they're fritting it into this whole thing with Kang, which I think is going to be more interesting. It's going to tie everything together and it'll play out. So I'm not, I wasn't worried about that at all. It's going to negate anything to happen and Logan, it's like, no, there's tons of stuff already that we know it's going to happen. So that, that to me, I didn't even know this story was a thing until I saw the Mangold story.

So combining that, yeah, go ahead. You think we're still going to get out of Wolverine casting? Casting? Maybe because you can still, I would assume that you can still talk about the casting if you're not going to have a movie that actually comes out. I don't know how it works legally. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure.

So, so I don't know. We'll see. Either way, we know Hugh Jackman's coming back. I like the idea that he's coming back. I like that he's doing it with Deadpool. And I think even in Deadpool 2, they had like time travel and stuff with cable and how that all worked. Do you think that we're going to get multiverse him? Do you think we're going to get Flashback him? Do you think that we're going to get Deadpool visioning him?

Like what are you? All of it. Yeah. I think you get all of it. Okay. Okay. So we'll move on to, well, you mentioned Batman, by the way. And I don't know. If you've watched all the Batman movies.

And you've seen everything. Batman Fox. And he's using Joy Mode, man. And why? Well, he doesn't need Joy Mode. Look, he's running around, fighting, doing all this stuff. He's using supplements to work out.

So he's using supplements to get down. Catwoman told me. I'll tell you that. Look, the problem is, and I've mentioned this many times over, and you go to those gas stations and those stupid erection-branded ones that you see, you're going, oh, I can get them.

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Not using Joy Mode. Cycling through. I can't even get them. I don't even meet them. They might be using Joy Mode. They just not come into my door. Well, wait, what happened you were talking about the number from the nail salon? The salon nail is.

Yeah, I didn't respond. Oh, you didn't respond. Okay. I don't know what's happening. My nail cell, because you don't watch SDN live. I do. I watch it all the time. What was it?

Really good. Yesterday. You guys did it good. Thank you so much. We did too good. I know. So why my nail woman quit. She sent me a long text.

She got in a silent fight with her aunt. Oh. And she walked out. Okay. And the next day I got a text from a guy saying Crystal gave me your number. That's not bad. So she, I guess, is trying to set me up with this guy. I don't know what he looks like.

I don't know what his last name is. I don't know what he does. I don't know what his social is. I don't know anything. I, Crystal. gave me your number. Hi. Why? So he was saying that I could respond to him and I'm saying I don't want to get shot. Yeah, because you don't know who he is. Yeah, who are you?

Yeah, if Crystal had more information on this feller. Nothing. Nothing. No, all he wants to talk about is the fact that Crystal left, which I'm devastated. You hear about Crystal? She left. Want to go out and get some pizza? Well, what if he's the love of my life? That's the thing. It's hung like a bull. Yeah. Dude. Yeah, nobody on the horizon. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Yeah, but I'm back.

in the game. Oh, you were excited again. Yeah, like, I go through these things. You wanted nothing to do with us anymore. Yeah, totally. I mean, I'm going through a phase right now where I feel like whenever I go through that phase where I'm like ready to fight, that's when I attract men, which is so weird. No, no, it's not weird at all.

It's like, it's the same thing. I was thinking about this the other day when I was looking for like a job and I was, I was talking to one particular company and I was like just banking on everything. And I'm like, I'm like, oh, my God, checking your emails, and oh my God, I hope this is, it's got to be it. And it doesn't happen, right? Because you're just, and then we're like, I don't, I don't know if I necessarily need that. Then the offer start coming in and more things are happening.

Like, it's the same thing with dating. It's like, I don't care. It's, yeah. Definitely. But the thing that is weird, I did just, I just did a 10-day stint back home in Boston. And I am a fucking hot commodity there. Like back in Boston, if you are single, I'm your type. Out in L.A., it is really...

You'd be married if you went back to Boston. For sure. For sure. It was actually really bizarre, not bizarre. That's a weird way of putting it just in case they ever see this. It was really lovely. When I went home, the always little love the movie that a man was playing at the Boston Film Festival. And I invited all my friends and family.

They all showed up. We sold out the theater. It was amazing. Incredible. It was awesome. But one of those people is my ex-boyfriend, whose wedding I went to. I remember. Right.

So he was there with his wife. And it was, it's so funny to me because my friends all thought, like, if I, if I didn't go to L.A. And if I just stayed home and decided. You would have married him. Yeah. Because I, I fucking love this kid. He's amazing. There's no, nothing between us.

I know what I wanted. Yeah, he's just a great guy. So if what I wanted was to get married and have children and live in a beautiful house and stay back in suburbia, then that would have just been. And it was so interesting to watch him and his wife live that life coming to my movie. And I was like, this is such a weird feeling. It's just interesting. It was an interesting moment. I felt the same too when I would go back to, when I would go back home with some of the people when I would meet some of my friends from like first, like eighth grade.

And I just remember going back when I was that age going, oh, I want to be. you know, whether it was, I've talked about Vanessa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, Delano, I can tell you, I have, I have, from everything that we have done in, we've gone back to New York and we've gone back for Schmodeon and other things too, and reconnecting, it's like a different vibe when you go to L.A. and, like, just seeing these people again, and it's like,

oh, it's like people look at you different because you've gone, and you've gone off and done different things because it's, a lot of my friends who stayed back. And I think you have the same thing, the East Coast. He stayed back in the East Coast. And once it's like 22, 23, they start settling down. And they start getting married. And it's a very dear.

And that's not just East Coast. It's a lot of different places. It's hard out here. Yeah, it's really hard. Everybody there was there with their spouse. Every single one of my friends. Right, right, right. And all hired babysitter for the night.

A hundred percent. And afterwards, we're like, oh, we've got to get home to our babysitter. And I was like, of course, thank you so much for hiring a babysitter to come. But it was just, it was so funny because. there I am with my cast and they're like looking at what my life could have would have been but not should have almost should have no no could have would have never should have oh my god yeah Freudian slip I want that life no it's only one thing she is the song about roxy oh and when she was almost married she was with lola at the screening and she saw the guy that could have been meaning

her and her life, but he was with his wife, and everybody knows they took a knife, and they cut a cake, and then Grandma on the table, that she's dancing on the table, that stop it, Grima. I'm talking about Rocky's life, she almost was a wife,

but now he's an actress, and she is a star, and I saw her sleeping in... That was your best one, yeah. That was really unbelievable and accurate. Yeah, that's true. I did see Roxie sleeping on her car. I was just nodding off, okay? I was already parked. Listen, I was meditating.

Tell me more about the peg boys. There's a deal with the peg boys. I've actually gone back home and seen friends and were, I was thought that people would be jealous of me going to L.A. and being coming a big star like I am. But no, I actually went back and I was like, oh, man, I wish I could have wanted this because, like, I've got a friend that married has a great house. house. He's got this wood shop of like, you know, it's got filters in it every saw. You wish you didn't have that thing. It's like, we got to go and chase that thing. But you do. But that's the problem. But you do. I think that all the time.

I said, narcissistic assholes. I said to my sister the other day, like, I just genuinely wished that we got multiple lives because one of my lives could have been a back hole. Line jumping. But I, I, you've made this shit up though, bro. Yeah, I know. Oh. No shit. Yeah, let's just do it. I I made it No shit I made it up

If not I wouldn't be here right now I'd be in 1956 I don't know why I picked that year But either way I'd be a cabinet maker 1956 not a good time Maybe for you Not for you

Yeah The whole time's been good for us Can I even vote then? I don't think so When can women vote 60s? You get a good milkshake 50s

When could women vote 45s It's good thing for We're time travel And white dudes It's always You pretty much could just Spin a wheel.

Time travel and not good for me. Speak for yourself, broad. Broad is the best. Can you pack me a sandwich for my time travel? Do me a favor. If I come on back, make sure you wearing an apron. Actually, an excellent cook. I've got you.

Are you? Yeah. I don't know if that's true. No, I am. I know I've had her cookies. Here we go. I never flipped that out. That's baking, though.

That's baking. You should probably talk about this. What is your signal? Okay, go ahead. We can talk about Logan. Or what's your signature dish? Oh, my gosh. Everybody chill. I'm going to pick one.

Oh, let's do this. Oh, no, you're going to do, you're going to talk about a little bit more, so we'll get into it. But let's talk about this one then. What is that? Oh, you're going to love this, Brett. Have you seen this trailer? I don't even if they have a trailer yet for it, but maybe they did. Yeah, they did.

I know they did it at D23. I wasn't sure if they showed it to every. It's like a minute long. Michael Jekino, who is the famous composer, he's directing this. take on yeah, a werewolf by night, which is a Marvel thing,

but it looks like an old school, like those 50s, werewolf things, you love that shit. Yeah, yeah, totally. I think you're gonna dig it, but where's, let me find,

because they did like a special screening for it. People were losing their minds. Oh, the whole thing? Yeah, I figured where it was. But so, Werewolf by Night is set in the MCU. I think people were asking if it was like a one-off

and if it didn't really like connect at all. So early reactions for Marvel Studios, upcoming one-off special Werewolf by Night came out yesterday with raves for the 53-minute black and white horror tale which evokes classic monster movies. So it's 53 minutes, that's wild runtime for this. What is it that? It's like a, I guess it's kind of like a...

Sure. I guess if you look at like an hour, maybe it's like an hour and a half TV movie without the commercials. You know what I mean? Like, you know when they used to run TV movies like that back in the day, but it'd be about an hour and a half because it'd all the commercials. That timing's off. I don't know what to tell you.

Celebrated composer Michael Jekino makes his directing debut on the project, which finally seems to deliver the one thing that Marvel often promises, but occasionally delivers. Something genuinely different. Oh, man, salty shots of fire. It's stylized, full of cinematic transitions, heavily reliant on practical creature design, and it is a genuine horror story with a fair amount of brutality.

Jekino tells Slash film that the story is definitely a part of the MCU. Just don't expect tie-ins to what else is going on. out there is it is a self-contained story. Chikino says, we always looked at it as a night in the life of Jack and Elsa, and we never shed away from the fact that, okay, yes, this exists somewhere in the MCU. Somewhere else in the world at this moment, Spider-Man is swinging on something, and Captain America is doing something, but we're not going to bother with that.

We're just worried about this moment right here, wherever we are. Speaking with the Hollywood reporter, Jekino says he was surprised that the project earned a TV-14 rating, as he always assumed they would get a harder rating. we always assumed it would be TVMA, but I wasn't always involved with what was happening on that end in terms of ratings and all that, but I am sure you're absolutely right that the black and white did help us with a certain range.

Yeah, with violence and stuff, that makes a lot of sense. It's crazy that this is a frozen crossover. Right? Jack and Elsa. Go back to that first quote. Go back to that first quote, because I think I can make anything dirty.

Okay, let's see. The first quote. So we always looked to, at night in the life of Jack and else and we never should No, here's a part. You know, so Spider-Man is swinging on something.

Captain America's doing something. I think he's swinging on a dick? Yeah, I think he's a swinging on a thing. Yeah, a little d-D-D-D-D-D-D-L-D-L-D-L-D-L-D-L-D-L-D-L. Didn't have my glasses. Nobody does. Look, this show,

as I said when I watch it, everything that they said about this, the early reactions, I think played in the trailer where I said, okay, I think that people, like I feel like Bibiani is going to love this unless he hates it because everyone else loves it. But I feel like he's going to...

That was as salty as this article was to MCU. He knows. He and I, he and I play with this stuff all the time. I think he's a brilliant critic. I think Bibiani's a brilliant critic. I disagree with him on almost everything. Same.

But to me, if someone can articulate the way that he does, he's earned his spot. He's a great, critic. I disagree with every opinion, and I think a lot of the times he just post things against my opinion is just to be contrarian. And I tell him that to his face. But I think that he always backs up with what he's saying. So go ahead, Bibbs, do your thing. But I feel like this could be something that he loves. And I just, but it doesn't look like it's anything for me, because I was like, okay, it's just an homage back for this old school kind of monster creature

filmmaking, but what I do think, why it is very important, and I'm glad that they're doing it, it's very similar to the same reason why I responded so much on a lot of people did to pray, right? I still didn't see it. You still didn't see pray? Oh, how weird is that? I love it. So fire back on the budgets.

Fire back, or even if you don't even fire back on the budgets, make it look like you fired back on the budgets. Because I'm still, I'm hoping that somebody takes this approach, whether it's what, this homage to, this monster movie and makes it feel that way. And Stranger Things did that in season one with the way that it kind of made it feel of every 80s and kind of old school and with the music. I want somebody to do this with Terminator.

So badly. I want them to go back, if you're going to do a series about Terminator, if you're going to do another movie, people are like, ah, Terminator's dead. In the way that they've been making it lately, I agree with you. But if you go back to that 1984

Stan Winston effects, old school horror kind of filmmaking, I think it can work. And I think this type of show proves that that if it's handled care, it can work. Where is it, is it a show or is it a movie? Is it going to be on Disney Plus? It's on Disney Plus.

Okay. So it's like a one-off special for like Halloween. It's interesting that you said that this isn't necessarily for you, but you're glad that it's happening because the person that I, who told me about this, was Dorena, who is a horror junkie. And this is the first thing I've heard her excited about in terms of Marvel. It's right of Perel. Yeah.

And so I'm excited about that for people who are excited about this. But I do think that that was a weird shot because even things like, like She-Hulk so different, breaking the mold from Marvel. I don't think that Marvel has the problem anymore of everything being the same. We have gone so into different genres. I mean, like straight up all over. I agree. I mean, they did this much so with Captain America and like Winter Soldier for the spy thriller.

But I understand, I think it was a salty shot for sure in that article. But I do understand where, well, She-Hulk, right? it's clearly this they're going after the sitcom the Allie McBeill, but it still has... Me. Right. But they're going, but they're also, but there's a, there's, they're still throwing in superheroes and things of that nature to make it feel like it's part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This, even though it takes place in the Marvel from, I haven't seen it, but from what I hear, you wouldn't even know.

Like, all of those shows, Shehulk included, you know it's part of Marvel. I think that's what Chikino's saying. He's going, yeah, look, at some, somewhere, there are superheroes in our world. We didn't, I just don't acknowledge them because that's not the story. Swinging on the dicks. But I'm not surprised at all that Doreena is excited for Werewhip by Night. I'm glad that it's short. I'm not going to, I mean, there's so many three and a half, four-hour films out here. It's a special. Yeah, just want to see like something, a little snippet, a little snippet of something. So I'm not, I'm not at all surprised that it's getting, and I'm glad for Chikino, who I like a lot.

And that's another reason probably why she's so excited for it. I love that image. Yeah, the image is great. It's really great. I thought that was Rob Zombie coming after us. Yeah, it will probably will be. What did you say? That's it.

All right, so let's see. We'll move on to another show. There's so many stories to talk about, guys, and this is a big one. So Blade's been jumping back to the MCU here. Apparently Blade is losing their director. Interesting. Travel in paradise.

Yeah, I mean, it seems like it. Let's find out why. Filmm, Basam Tarik, who did Moguli, which I have not seen, has dropped out of directing the blade film at Marvel Studios. Now, the project has been getting ready to kick off filming this November in Atlanta, and it's unclear how his departure will impact the production start of the... Excuse me, will impact the production start of the vampire...

Start of... I don't know, that's it. Unclear how this departure will impact the production start of the vampire action thriller? It will impact the production start. Thank you. Oscar winner, Marshall Halle, steps into the role of the half-emortle-vampire hunting, Day Walker previously made famous by the Wesley Snipes-led trilogy. In a statement, Marvel said, due to continued shifts in our production schedule, bullshit, Bassem is no longer moving forward.

It's that they always say. Moving forward is a director of Blade, but will remain an executive producer on the film. That's what they always do. We appreciate Bassam's talent and all the work he's done getting Blade to where it is. That's probably true. The studio is reportedly already in search mode for a new director. The project has been... What's that?

The studio reportedly is already in search. search for Mo's for a new director? Yes. Right away, especially if they're going in November. November, what do you mean? In two months you have a movie that studios in search for new director. Where'd you get that one, Scoops McGee? Sooth McGee's a Dan Merle characters, you know that?

That's hilarious. Delroy Lindo and Aaron Pierce co-star in Blade, which currently remains on track for November 3rd, 2023 release. Yeah, they're going to be rushing this out because that's the problem that the MCU has, right? when you get to a place where if somebody drops out or if you can't, if you announce a slate like this, you can't start shifting things around because I was re-watching the MCU with Viv,

I said to her, I said to her, it's like a TV show, right? She's like, yeah, it all feels like a TV show because we're on Winter Soldier right now. So she's like asking all these questions. It's adorable watching it with her. But you can't shift things around because the director drops out. You've got to go after a new one.

But what do you guys think? because I do get skeptical when I hear scheduling. What do we tell them? The guy just threw a glass bottle at Cheryl and took off. What do we do? Scheduling issues. Yeah, which is super not what you're claiming happened here in this specific situation. No, no, no, no, of course not.

I'm just saying in general. I'm with you. What I usually think especially when it's somebody who is newer like him, I'm not saying that he's green, but he is not a household name of a director. I usually think that he has a vision that doesn't align with the vision. And then they go with somebody who's going to be more of a company man. Look, Marvel is a machine right now. And so here is what I think probably happened.

I think very, very close to what Roxy just said. And I think that what has happened recently with both Dr. Strange and Love and Thunder have been the two movies for Marvel. recently and even Eternals, which I liked. Me too. Yeah. But all three of those movies, they grabbed very stylistic directors with their own style and their own look and said, okay, we're going to do some little different here. Instead of getting these really great directors we've had in the past and having them

direct a Marvel movie, we're going to give them a Marvel property and let them do a Sam Ramey movie and let them do a Tyke. movie, let him do a Chloe's Out movie. We're going to let them do that. And all three of those movies have been mixed, and they've gone away from the formula. And a lot of people, oh, let the directors make their movies. And then they come out and say, oh, man, that one didn't work out. Tyka made a comedy. And then I sat down, I brought this up many times. I was sitting down right before the screening with Winston, and they were doing the interview with Kevin Feige on the carpet. And they said, you know, normally, I think it was Eric Eishi that asked him. He said, you know, normally

you do uh so captain america winter soldier was a spy thriller and antman was a was a heist film and this was this what's door love and thunder and he goes oh this is a tyca movie and i went oh no and i love tyca but i went oh no that's that's not good so what i think happened here was there and that's another reason why they got the got the director of wanda vision to now do fantastic four because he plays ball as you were saying and his mate company man but plays towards division and i think this is exactly what happened all i thought was going to be able to make my own thing You are the same way that, look, look at Ryan Cooleer. Ryan Cooleger makes Ryan Cougar movies for sure, but he's playing within Marvel. I don't think he's necessarily a company man.

I don't mean company man negatively. I know that it has a negative connotation. Stick with the plan. I just mean that they understand the greater vision and aren't trying to piss them the soup, which like is already a great soup, you know? And I think that that works, that might not work at D.C. right now because the company has no fucking vision. And the directors have to come in and do it. They don't have a FIGI. But when you do have that and you see it's working, then being a company man

just means that you're part of the team, you're part of the overall vision. I know what you mean. I also, I'm telling you, like, if you could really get Fagie off the record, I think he'd be like, look, we took a shot with making, letting Ramey do his own thing, let Tika do his own thing, let Chloe do everything. And all three of those movies have been the ones that have been the most split in recent times. That's super true. And it is weird because I don't love two of those movies. I'm on the same page as you, but when you look at something like Eternals,

it does make me hope that more directors are able to do their thing because I loved that movie. I did too, but I thought out of the three of those movies, it was in most synced with the plan, though. I think it had her style all over it, but it felt more like a Marvel movie to me than the other, like out of the three. three of them, Thor, Love and Thunders, and it's, it, you might as well have been on Mad TV. I've got to, I've got

to see this so I can get my assessment. It's so goofy. I just like Dr. Strange way more than I disliked Thor. I got to rewatch both of them again too, because you don't get any more of a, it's a Sam Ramey movie, like 100% of Sam Ramee. I think you're saying. I like him, but I don't know. Yeah, I get it. I get it. So now,

but here's the thing. I do think that Black Panther, Wakanda Forever, will clearly be a Ryan Kluger Cougar movie. However, as you said, I think he knows the plan. He knows how to play with it. He knows how to make a Marvel movie. The same way he was a Ryan Cougar movie, he knew how to make a Rocky movie, but make a creed. He also has

some serious heavy lifting to do that. He must be in cahoots with the studio about. I mean, they've got to be talking about it. Do you hear how long this movie is supposed to be? No. Two hours and 40 minutes. Oh. Black Panther. What kind of forever? It's supposed to be 240, apparently. The reports from... 240's.

That's long. It would be the, I think, I forget how long endgame was. I think it's like 240 something, isn't it? Let's see. I'm going to, we'll find out right now. End game runtime. All I can tell you is blonde was that long and that was a challenge. It's a challenge.

End game run time. End game was three hours and two minutes. Wow. So that's the longest one. I think after that, I think no way home is the second. Do you remember Titanic? feeling like it I don't know if you guys had Titanic on VHS

but it came in two different VHSs and I would watch it at my TV screen in my kitchen which was the size of my hand and being like this is the longest movie of all time and now three hour movies are they pop up more than often yeah it's true it's true you weren't old enough to see it in the theater right

Titanic what year was it 96 97 97 into 98 yeah yeah I don't think I saw it in the theater but I did watch it before school in elementary school on VHS. Never let go. So they're rumoring it that's like two,

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What happened? You know what? This is on me, Rox. What happened? I got to get those photos for you. Hold on. There's going to be a ton of them here, guys. Oh.

You know what? This is not true. Let me make sure that I have it for you. This is not true. Not true at all. I thought there was music or something. No, not yet. Here it is.

First one, Roxy. Go ahead. Somebody make me a music cue. I know. I got to talk to our good friend. Look at that image. And starting over. Okay, there's a ton of stuff

that you guys need to be watching right now. Handmaid's Tale is back for season five. It's still on Hulu, and it is still the creepiest show on television. A lot of people talk about how parts of this show hit close to home, so it definitely trigger warning, watch at your own risk, but it is unbelievable. Have you guys ever seen an episode of Hamlet's 2? Yes, I saw episode one. Excuse me!

Is that a note? Brett watches it all for. I have a wife. You say he watches it all the time? I do. I've seen every... You caught up? Yeah, I'm caught up.

No, I haven't seen this season. Okay, so excuse me! Because I'm watching epic programming. And so let me ask you this before we... Should I start Handmaid's Tale or should I do the patient? Okay, great question because I am going to talk about the patient. I'm going to reserve my... Until you do review it.

Yeah, I'm going to plead the fifth for now. But Handmaid's Tale is definitely worth your eyes as time. I do think that this actually would be a very difficult but great show to be. because we are five seasons deep and a lot has taken place, but you have to kind of be a glutton for punishment to enjoy this show in any way. It's just wildly well done. And so if you love great television, this is great television. But at least this season finally we're getting our due,

like we're getting a little revenge, we're getting our Cromuppets. Cremuppins? Cumbuppins. Cumuppins. Comeuppins. Comeuppins. I've been saying Cremuppets for a really long time. Cromuppets?

Yeah, come up. Hey, make it your own. Well, anyway. Sometimes you don't need to say it on ear. Yeah, well, this time I did. I think Hamid Sale is awesome. And this season is really good. We are watching Elizabeth Moss, who is just wildly talented,

show a new light to the character that we haven't seen in a little bit. It's creepy. It's scary. And she's knocking it out of the park. So I think that definitely watch this one. If you want to see her knuck it out of the park, then you should go and check that out. That's what I said. I love this today.

Oh, good. She can speak. Speaking of knocking things. Domery, yo, oh, my God. So is this not the creepiest show on TV? You said the other one was. The thing about this one that's creepy is that it's real. Yeah. You know, when you're watching this show, which is on Netflix, by the way, it's 10 episodes.

It's starring Evan Peters, who is so, so effing good. I think it's like the fourth time he's played a serial killer. That's a really? This man really nails serial killer. Yeah, he's quite, thank you. killer and people are going to love that he's really good the show

starts immediately almost immediately the first episode with him getting arrested so that's not a spoiler but that means that what we do for the entire 10 episodes is we play around the timeline so like we bounced back from 87 91 we're kind of all over

the place because I think that they wanted you immediately to know this man gets his curmuppets and he gets his come up come up and they need you to know that because this is the most disgusting serial killer ever. Like what we're watching is somebody who not only kills dozens, I don't even know how many of people,

drugs them, assaults them, eats them, freezes that, like all of the things, which a lot of people know, but this show shows it to us. Pure definition of a monster. Yeah, monster, monster. And then when confronted about it is like, mm-hmm. That's me. That's what I do. You know?

Never lies about it. No. And it's just, to know this person existed just makes you feel icky in your own skin. Right. Just really, truly horrible. The show's excellent, but I don't know how to recommend this to somebody. It's very hard because I, so I had the guy who handles a lot of our podcast stuff, he and I talk all the time. And he's like, you know, have you thought about covering Dahmer?

He's like, it's really popular. And I was like, I just don't know. I saw the trailer and I think the trailer I watched and I thought he looked great in it. I said, I just don't know if I could do that. Yeah, I completely hear you. Can I tell you the truth about this show is that I never do this with shows ever. Sometimes I'll hit the 15 second skip on Netflix through things on this because I'm just like, I see what you guys are about to, you're about to show me eating somebody, him eating somebody.

I don't want to see that. I get what you're about to show me and I don't need to see that. I get that he's about to drug. this person's drink for the 50th time, I actually am going to skip 15 seconds on that. You get it. It's powerful. It's powerful, but I'm like sitting there at night alone watching it, like shaking in my boots. That's creepy.

That's why I was like, and that is one of the things when people ask me, like being out of my own, right? Like, I choose the stuff that I want to watch. If it's popular or not, like if I just don't, and it's nothing against Evan Peters. I love Evan Peters. That's why you have me. 100%. And I also don't think that it is nothing against the filmmakers. It's nothing against anything.

I just don't know if I want to put myself through that for that long. It's not fun. Yeah. No part of the show is fun. Like, no. Nor should it be. Yeah, nor should it be, exactly. It's like what they did with that Zach Efron thing when he was Ted Bundy when they tried to make like a comedy.

Yeah, that was. Loud and close and whatever it was. Yeah. But the thing about this show that also makes it difficult to recommend the same thing that was difficult about recommending Pam and Tommy or any of these shows is that the victims' families were like, don't make the show. We don't want the show. Oh, they did. So that's challenging. And they made the show anyway.

And the show is excellently done. But it's also like, I don't know that you guys should have made the show either. Why would you want to watch that? If you're like if you're, this was like your, you know, whether it was your uncle or whoever might have been. And you and that's how you knew that that happened. And you got to watch it on Netflix? And it was in the, you know, he was caught in the 90s.

So a lot of these people, a lot of these people are, it's their kid. Right. Their kid's gone. So it's like, of course they don't want to watch it. So the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, opposite of feel good, but if you guys want something that will make you feel a little better, I'm repping right now my Taylor Hawkins shirt because I went to the Taylor Hawkins tribute concert last night, courtesy of Mark Ellis, so grateful that he was able to take me.

It was amazing. The concert last night started at 7 and it was done at 1.30 in the morning. Who are some of the peeps that were on? Every single person. It was everybody from Queen, from the chili peppers. It was John Paul Jones. It was Miley Cyrus. Alanis Morissette. John Paul Jones from Badgerstown Paradise? No. That would be amazing.

It was, people from Led Zeppelin, people from Van Halen, people from just every major, and obviously the foo fighters. Yeah. It was wild. It was wild to see drummers continue to circle through for all different acts to come on. Taylor Hawkins was the drummer for the foo fighters. He passed away. I'm going to say almost a year ago, several months ago.

They did this tribute concert at Wembley, and then last night they did one in L.A. Taylor's son played on the drums, too, which was incredible. And the entire six-hour Wembley concert right now is on Paramount Plus. If you are a fan of rock and roll, it is such a great thing to watch. Not only do they show the whole concert, but they intercut with some of the biggest legends of all times. Speaking about Taylor Hawkins, who was amazing to watch. So if you love rock, and I think that they're going to do the same thing with the L.A. one last night. Dave Chappelle came in St.

creep. Really? Oh, my God. Dave Chappelle walks on stage and I've never, I have some footage I'll show you. He literally sounded like a Muppet. It was unbelievable. He came on and was like, ah, it's like how I do Yoda. Is it hilarious?

Yes, but he, I knew he might make an appearance because he came to Wembley, which I saw because I watched the Paramount Plus show. I remember that, yeah. And he just talked about Taylor because he loves rock and roll and he loved Taylor. And then he comes on stage and you think he's going to, introduce something because Jack Black came on stage and spoke. And so I was like, oh, Dave Chappelle's here. And then he just full-blown, starts singing creep.

And then afterwards, Dave Grohl's like, didn't expect that, did you? That's amazing. And it was just like, thing after thing is, over a six-hour show. So it was just like... Last night was six-hour show? Over six hours. It was crazy. It went forever.

And it was funny because I was supposed to go. And then I realized... I'm so sad you weren't there. Well, the thing is, what time did this start? Seven. Yeah. So what time do you get back? Back home, four in the morning?

Two. Yeah. So, yeah, that's, that's a foreign territory. Way too much fun. And what hearing that Step didn't know half the bands was great to hear. It was, it was amazing, though. She had a great time because she knew a lot of the songs because they're, you know, they're playing the most popular.

Molly Crew was there, which was bizarre to see them all come on stage. No, they didn't play that, though. Yeah, I'm sorry. You should have asked. Probably not. Probably can't play that in 2020. No. In 2022.

Stuart Copeland was there. It was like some of the most famous drugger. drummers all time. Roger was there. Brian May, who did love my life. It was incredible. Just amazing. So if you missed it, go to Paramount Plus. They stream the entire Wembley one. It is six hours of your time, so you might want to put it on when you're cooking or doing something else, but it's great. I love it. All right. Let's end strong then, Ox. We did that one. That's not it. Let's end strong. That's not it. That's Dave Grohl that you've got.

This one? Yeah, but you've got to let me talk about the patient. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But, okay, House of the Dragon. This show. Well, I end with House of the Dragon. Go with the patient. Okay, well, both of these are strong. The patient is excellent. I can't keep asking you guys to do this without getting annoyed with you that you guys are not watching the show because it's 22 minutes a week. It's all you have to commit to it.

This is Steve Grell's best performance ever. It is so good. This show. Oh, give them all of them right now. Just sign them up for the Emmys because I think this is going to be a limited series and he's going to sweep. The show is going to sweep. It's excellent. How do you say Domno Glele Gleason?

Dom. Donal. Don't know. Dole. Donald Gleason is fantastic in this too. It's creepy, but it's only 22 minutes, so you can stomach it. But not Dom or creepy?

No. And that's real. Yeah. So this is a little bit, you can stomach it a little bit more. It's also so isolated because 90% of this takes place in one room, which is wild to see how they make that entertaining. You have to watch the patient.

It's FX Hulu, 22 minutes a week, commit to it now. Everybody's going to be talking about this come award season, so just to watch it. It's FX Hulu. different than just Hulu? Do I have to have something else? No, no, so all FX shows because Disney owned now go to Hulu. Oh, perfect. Okay.

So it's FX if you have cable or Hulu if you. Which is how I watch, you. I like it. Have you watched an old man yet? Excellent. Oh, that's like, oh, God. You know what am I doing here? I should just be home watching things.

Yeah, it's true. All right, so then we should, well, then let's close. And Strong House of the Dragon. Yeah. Now, I thought of you immediately, if I can, if I can talk about this real quick. Yeah, give it to me. So this was something that I thought of very much. We're going to call spoilers here.

So if you haven't seen it, you should probably shut this off right now. So the very end of this episode, we're put back in that same position that we were in episode one. With the difference being that two differences. One, Damon says, is she going to survive? And no, he does not make that call. But she doesn't give him the opportunity to make that call. She goes, fuck this. I'm doing out of my own terms.

And she walks out, says to the dragon screen. to drag, dragon's like, you sure? And she's like, yeah, I'm sure. Screaming DeCaris out of him or whatever. And then the dragon lights are up. So that to me, that was always planned. Does that make, because of what happened in this episode, knowing that that was already planned?

Does that make the first one different? A little bit, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I really appreciated that they are showing the juxtaposition of two people, neither whom are perfect, some of whom are worse than others, but and how they treat women and when they do ask for certain things versus when they don't. I also think that doctor, it's not like doctors today that know everything. Like you could see this guy's like, I don't know.

I don't know that they're going to, whatever, which is my problem with the initial thing. But I do think that this, I saw an article that's talking about this show kind of digging itself a little bit of a hole right now. And I wonder how they're going to get out of it. The entire show is about who's going to end up on the throne, right? The fight for the throne. And they are making none of the characters good guys. None of the characters are people. The really good ones just died in the fire.

Yeah, yeah. So that is interesting when we, when people now are rooting for the lesser of the evils. And it's really, this show is really working for me. And I did appreciate this. It still doesn't like, to me, rectify the first episode, but I do like what they did here.

And it does make it make sense a little bit more. But I think that, that it's going to be fascinating that unlike in Game of Thrones, where I was like, put Sonsa on the throne. Sonsa on the throne. Here I'm like, you don't know who you want. I will say, though, that I think that Rennara makes some questionable choices, right? Yeah.

For sure. But from what Emma Darcy does in this, now I didn't know how I was going to feel about them when it came in. Because of how. The new cast, do you mean? No, Emma. You didn't know how you're going to feel about what? Specifically their performance. Oh, they.

So, um... I didn't know. Yeah. So, um, when... And, and again, I, it had nothing to do with Emma Darcy. It was the idea that I just really liked Millie Alcock's performance. Yeah, really good. But the way that they introduced Renera, the older Renera,

and that's with the tracking shot and the, and the idea of giving birth, I'm like, okay, right away. Darcy has earned this. Yeah. Right away within, I'm like, okay. No more reservation. And then Olivia Cook is outstanding. Olivia Cook is so good. Outstanding.

And so where they're at. But I think that Renera, though, the character of Renera, she is, to me, starting to make choices more as the queen that's going to become the future queen. Protecting, understanding. I thought she did make a good choice in the understanding with her husband going, look, I could just tell you to stay here like I did. but I and I could just bring you with me and do follow me but bring bring your guy yeah bring your guy that that to me was okay that was that was a good decision that was a nice decision like that was someone who I think she is I think she is a good person and she makes stupid you see the havoc that she's wreaking on like all of these men

yes yes it's true walked up yes yeah well your boy now how do you feel about your boy sir Kristen now I think that I I feel bad I feel bad about him he's jaded Yeah, oh my God, but I kind of get it. Yeah. But he's just coming off like a bitter bitch. He is coming like a bitter bitch. Well, that whole thing, but even the fact that he, he taunts the dude and he's picking on those kids because he knows what's going to have.

That whole scene, like the idea behind it. You know what we also haven't seen a lot of that might turn out to be the good guy is is a Graham McTavish's character of Sir Harold Western. Now, he's only been in a few episodes here and there, but we haven't gotten enough. Yeah, early on. we haven't got enough. He could be. And look, we're also only, what, six episodes into this thing. We could very well get. But six episodes of what? No, no, I'm saying, I don't disagree.

No, I mean season one? Season one? Oh, how many of the, I don't know. Well, they're definitely on season two. So is this journey, is season two a decade, two decades of the future, four decades of the future, or is this journey going to end? Yeah, I don't know. Well, I mean, I think that the majority of it is the Battle of the Throne and the Civil War that eventually happens because they're really i don't there's there's there's in the world does do alison and ranaura get back on the same page anymore who do you prefer of the two of them character wise yeah

hard it's hard um because i understand where they're both coming from yeah that's the problem and that's what they've done not the problem that's what they've done very well the scene where rinera has to bring her baby to the queen after giving birth so powerful like Oh my God. That's what I meant. Just the blood dripping down, like the hall. But that's what I was saying. You like, the second, they're like, well, how are we going to, everybody loves Amelia O'Connor.

How are we going to introduce Emma at this point? And they're like, here's the scene. And for an actor to come in and do that. Crazy. And fire that in there. I knew right away what this version of Renera has been through. She's not, she's not as, as forgiving. or excuse me as joyful as she was yeah this is 10 years of shit and i think that now what the way that

they're playing her is perfect what is the uh Emma is that their name Emma Darcy what have I seen them in before I did recognize them I I I don't maybe I was not familiar probably for you you it was that was the name of the show British shit um okay look we've we've gone we've gone over but I will say this um how many episodes of and or are you in for And? It's good. This past episode was the best. Is it four?

Yeah. Oh. I don't understand the whole show. Like, I understand parts of it. Oh, I want you to ask me questions. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Thank you.

Because I tried to ask Ace questions. Yeah. I'm mad at you. No, Ace was so sweet trying to explain things to me. But I don't think he understood how little I understood. Oh, okay. I'm getting parts of it. But there was like a basic premise that I missed.

because I really like it, but I don't get all of it. That's fine. I've got some, you should reach out to the fans because they're usually very helpful and understanding when you don't understand it. I know. People were like, you're a fucking idiot if you don't get this.

And I was like, I, you and I will talk about this. But look, we'll talk about it a little bit more. And maybe we'll talk about Indoor next week for sure. But we had a great show here. And there was a lot of stories that we left off the table, by the way.

Like what? There was, Roxanne asked me. that right now because then I've got to go into them. Yeah, Jesus. Didn't you tell me you were going to tell me who might be the guest? Oh, yes, thank you. And that, well, that was one of the stories.

So they mentioned about Blue Beetle and how Warner Brothers is very supportive over it. And they're, they are not going, because people worried it was going to get canceled, but it's not. They're very supportive over it. So my, my guests coming into studio, hopefully within the next week or two is Sholo, Mendovinia. Whoa. So, who will, the Blue Beetle himself, aka Miguel from,

Cobra Kai. So just, he and I have been speaking about it and I've been working with this team to get him in here soon. So, um, I finished Copacai, by the way. And did you love it? Excellent. So great. Did you see my interview with, with Terry Silver? No. Oh, you need to. Really? So good. He gives, he gives a little, uh, it's really, it's really great. I thought the show this season was just as great as other seasons. I really enjoyed it a lot. Me too. All right. Listen, what we want you guys to do is make sure that you leave your comments for sure. if you haven't already, please subscribe to the podcast feed. Follow us on Spotify.

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