The Kristian Harloff Show - Wonder Woman 3 being developed with Gal Gadot and James Gunn?

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

Join the website here! http://www.thekristianharloff.com Gal Gadot in an interview recorded before the strike had claimed that James Gunn and Peter saffron while developing wonder woman three with her. What does this mean? Will it be part of the DCU? Does it lend the confusion or is this an Elseworlds film? Stephen Amell makes some regrettable comments about the SAG strike and take his words back a little. The box office heats up with teenage mutant ninja turtles. Barbie still doing well after his third week. Loki breaks records as far as the trailer goes. What will it mean for the overall MCU? Kris Carr joins Kristian Harloff on this special episode of the Big Bang. #MCU #Marvel #DCU #WonderWoman PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow

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We're going to be talking about a great many things. But the main thing we're going to talk about is this Wonder Woman thing, man. Gal Gadot had an interview before the strike, but it was released today or last night, whatever. the fact that Wonder Woman is being developed, Wonder Woman 3, being developed with James Gunn, Peter Saffron, and the question is, huh? What's happening? I don't understand, so we'll break that down. We'll talk about the Stephen Amel stuff. He made some comments about the strike that went over like a fart in an elevator, and then he then said, no, no, no, guys, it wasn't me.

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It's the big thing. It's me. It's Chris Carr. Here we go. What's going on, everybody? It is the big thing. It is Wednesday. And I got Chris Carr here.

Hey, everybody. How are you doing? I am excellent. I'm so full from that really good breakfast. I know. It's so funny, as I said that, as well, how are you doing? I haven't just seen you for the last hour and a half. We had a chance to sit down, break bread, as they say.

Yeah, ketchup. Catch up. Literally, I'd catch up on my face, and Chris was so nice to tell me, hey, hey, dumb, dumb, get the ketchup off your face. That's the mark of a good friendship, though. I agree. It's like, if you to have a whole meal with somebody and you leave with spinach in your teeth, are they your friend afterwards? It means that they wanted you to have it and look dopey. Exactly.

And I never want that for you. No, you didn't. And I can tell. This is a fresh friendship. We're starting off on the right foot. When you can tell someone that they have, hey, hey, wipe your face. And you did it so nice. You did it with a smile and a laugh.

And I was like, that's, I was like, that's very nice. But we were talking about a few things. We were talking about some of these stories, but as you guys know or may not know, Chris is also a very talented voice actor and she teaches. She's a lot of these things. So I was trying to get some advice, and she gave me some really good advice. Oh, I'm glad. I love talking Vio.

I'm actually building out a new booth this week, too. Are you? At home? At home is chaos, yeah. I'm sure it is. It's ridiculous. There's just like parts of a door all through my hallway. Okay.

And what is you just soundproofing in doing all that? Yeah, we're upgrading everything. And how long you, so how long have you been in the voice? voiceover game. Oh, I did my first professional voiceover back in Texas in 2012. So like a decade now. Wow. Okay. And you've been doing that now for quite a bit and you made a career out of it. So that's great. We also obviously see you on John Campia's show. That's about four days a week. Yes, four days a week. Four days a week. Four days a week. So, well, great. I'm glad to have you with us today. Thank you. Me too. All right. We're going to talk about some stories. We're going to talk about this one because I brought this up to Chris today because it was just such a new story. This thing about.

about Galgadoad. Here it is. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. All right. Here's the story, and this is from dark horizons.com. I'll read it out here. James Gunn and Peter Safran's

DC Universe is, for the most part, going to be a straight reboot when it kicks off with Superman Legacy ushering in a new wave of heroes. We also have a new Superman and David Corrin's sweat, and we know that James Gunn is going to be cast, is going to cast someone new for Batman,

but what of the other Justice League members? One of the big questions lingers over Gal Gadot and her role as Wonder Woman. First introduced in 2016 Batman vs. Superman Donner Justice, Godot has played the role multiple times on screen with the highlight being her solo 2017 Wonder Woman film, which remains the best-reviewed DC film adaptation since Nolan's Batman trilogy. The 2020 sequel, however, was widely panned.

Godot has appeared in Shazam Fury of the Gods and Flash this year. Patty Jenkins and her were on the work for the third Wonder Woman before Gun and Saffir. took over. After that, Jenkins exited, leaving its status and Godot's involvement unclear. So she was speaking to Comicbook.com regarding Netflix's upcoming action thriller Heart of Stone, Godot explained where things stand. She says, I love portraying Wonder Woman. It's so close and dear to my heart. From what I heard from James and from Peter is we're going to develop a Wonder Woman three together. Though the interview was just published, it was conducted back in June prior to the strike. And it was before Corrin Sweat and Brosnan had they just been cast.

And so she's talking about them. And then she goes on to wishing them luck being in the role, but nothing else further on, Wonder Woman. So let's get into this thing, Chris, where it comes to potentially Galgadot, James Gunn, and Peter Safran developing a Wonder Woman 3. What? For why? I don't understand. I'm so confused about what is and isn't in the DCU. Like what is being left behind in the DCEU and what's going forward? Because it feels very wishy-washy.

It feels like cafeteria option of like, I want some of this, but I don't want that. With chefs that don't really know what they're, yeah. It's like, what should we put in there? What do we have? It's like, well, we have this really good meat over here. We think this might be spoiled, but we're still going to serve it. Yeah. We don't know.

It might taste good. We don't know yet. We think this one's really good. Oh, it costs $250 million. and it's not good. And it was terrible. No, and the lead chef is doing some stuff that nobody wants to talk about. But so, yeah, it's bizarre that they would do this,

be it also because wouldn't you want to just cut all ties at this point from anything that was before because the audience ain't buying into it? And Galgado had been, she was great. I loved her in the Shazama sequel when she popped up. I loved her in this other movie. is Wonder Woman in general, I think it's too confusing. I think it's incredibly confusing.

Because it already is one of those things when I'm speaking to average moviegoers, like my friends and family, who are, well, so what movies matter right now is a thing because of how just most superhero movies have gone. You have to see this to understand this. You need to about this show.

You need to know about that. So I keep getting asked, well, what matters then? And I don't know the answer to that. Obviously, you can always see a movie that you want to, whether or not it matters. I don't know. Does any movie matter ultimately?

I know what you mean. But it's just so odd that it's, yep, we're completely revamping the DCU. We're taking this new direction, but also we're taking these other relics we had. And she's great. She's great. But it's just, I had this whole thing about Henry Cavill and the short has been picking up a lot in this channel. But I talked about, I loved Henry Cavill as superman. It's so funny.

Before I tell that story, I got this, the silliest comment. As you see silly comments all the time, I saw really. silly comment yesterday that I didn't even allow on the channel because it was so dumb. And it was basically I had put out that I think that the Superman theme, the John Williams theme, should almost serve like the James Bond theme.

Oh, I saw that. Yeah. And someone's like, you don't fool us? We know you said good things about Man of Steel. We know that you like Man of Steel and now you're not saying you're not saying. It's not what I said at all. I love Man of Steel. I think Cavill's one of the best, second best next to Christopher Reeve and I wanted to see him continue and I was really bummed when he didn't

get to continue and I wish that he would have and the fact that he has to play everyone else gets to come back but he can't and they like the Snyder stuff I love this the last Snyder movie the the Snyder cut I actually really really enjoyed it but I think it's if they're going to cut all this stuff out they need to cut it out and just because they said a song and I love the Hans Zimmer song by the way what I got you moment they got me they nailed it didn't even see the light of day until just now I let it be known. But the Han Zimmer, the Han Zimmer score is so good.

And when people are arguing against it, Zimmer's score was epic. It was. I'm just saying, though, how like Bond, like something, and even if they took the Hans Zimmer one, I mean, if it was a choice between the two, I would take John Williams,

but they're like, we're not going to do that, but we are going to give Superman a theme overall, and it's going to be the Han Zimmer score for every Superman from here to there. I bet, okay, as long as it's consistent because people are you need to change? Does Robert Pattinson need that? It's like, no.

Now, different times, different themes. Like, if Danny Elfman's theme could have been the one great, but I loved Hans Zimmer's thing again for that Batman, but there's just something with Superman that I thought worked. But it doesn't matter because they're not going to do that. Yeah. Yeah. But I think that the Henry Cavill stuff, though,

is the thing that makes me more confused when it comes to Scalgadoe thing. For sure. Well, because you totally can do else worlds with all of this. And I think that's a really fun sandbox to play in because then you don't have to really think about consequence ultimately. It's just, hey, let's see what we can do. Let's take that what-if approach, which I think with Marvel's What-if, with DC's Elseworlds,

it allowed so much creativity and just fun to happen because you can do whatever you want. And I like the idea of them approaching film like that without the shackles, but I just need a little bit more congruency at the jump here. Yeah, and it's like, what is? But is it going to, so do you think that's going to be the case where they say, all right, gal's not going to be our Wonder Woman that interacts with David Corrin's sweat because then how does, she just doesn't, it's just the same, it never happened with Henry Cavill?

Or is it an else world's thing? You know, like they said, is it like, we're basically doing a third movie because we know the audience wants it. We know the audience wants Gal Gadot back. Oh. You know what's hilarious is that my phone just started going off and playing that video that I was just talking about. Oh, my gosh. It's AI. It's here.

100%. Thank you so much for your service. Please keep us as pets when you take over. Thank you. For sure. It's them and the aliens. I'm telling you. But anyway, so just the fact that they're going to maybe do this as an elseworld's thing,

that's possible because there's a lot of GalgaDot, a lot of Wonder Woman fans. You're looking at one. I love that first one. And the second one I watched with my wife when it was on, it was the day and release, I think they did it the same way. I think so when it was during the pandemic. It's not a good movie. No. No, but I enjoyed watching it.

I did. I know that I'm into minority, but I won't stand there and say that it's a good movie because it's not. You know, sometimes you get into an argument with somebody and you go, what did you like that movie? It was so good. Anything that you say about your criticism about that movie, I am

probably going to agree with you 100%. And just for some reason, sitting on the couch, wanting to watch something and didn't mind it that night. That's fair. She's still really great, and it. Pedro Pascal does so much with so little in that movie. Yeah, true. I just root for him of, man, you're trying to do such a good Maxwell Lord and this is what you got. Yeah. Yeah, it's messy.

I would like them to get that redemption moment. I'd love that for her. So maybe that's what this is. Maybe that's what they, maybe, maybe, look, and there's two sides of it. One, it's that, it's, okay, we are going to work on this movie to give you that third movie so you can close out this trilogy. like we said that we could, we would have liked Patty to do it. We couldn't come to terms with it, but we're still going to give this to you because we know that you want to do this and we want to honor that. Yeah.

Which if that's the case and it's the third movie and I want to close it out, I respect that, right? And the other side of it is, okay, maybe, like, how do you play, how do you, I don't know how you play that though? Like, how do you make that work overall? And then it's like, all right, well, this is going to, we're going to connect this somehow into our DCU. You can't. It just doesn't, I can't see the roadmap right now.

And maybe James and Peter can. That's their whole job. But if it's already, okay, so I just saw this Batman, and I know there's this other Batman who has already been established as El Swirrarts, and that's Patinson. So I know one Batman has interacted with her, one moving forward has not,

and that will stay that way. And now I'm also going to have another Batman coming in, and I'm having another Superman come in. That's where I'm, yeah. There's so many forks in the road that I don't understand. So I think another thing that is very possible, though, is this scenario. This is the scenario that I think is,

the most likely. When all this was going down, rightfully so, Saffron and Gunn had to have meetings with all the cast from the past, the future, everybody, and they had to have conversations, whether it be with the directors as well, had the conversation with Patty Jenkins, couldn't come to terms with a sat with Gall and said, look, we're working on these other things, and we can start potentially working on a Wonder Woman 3, and behind closed doors or in a conversation, and they probably could also have this with Zazlov and say, we're talking about it because if there is still a need for it and if the audience is still responding, let's see how Shazam does,

let's see how The Flash does, let's see how Aquaman does, and if those movies do well, then it really could make sense to do a Wonder Woman 3. But now that you have data for those two movies, and the answer is they did not do well, is that maybe, yeah, this isn't going to work out. That's how it feels. I feel like, too, the whole hoopla of Mamoa leaving the DC offices really excited. I feel like that. I'm still one of those believers who that's for Lopo, not for Aquana. I agree with you. And WB, and I know this is the old regime, they've been so reactionary when it comes to the DCEU. And I feel like that's still dribbling over here to your point there of let's see what the data says of, well, if we learn somebody wants her still, then we'll do it.

Right. I don't know if that's the greatest method. that that's more, it feels like a studio spaghetti move. It feels like them going, well, let's see, don't tell her no. Everybody loves gal and we love gal and we love gal. Let's say that we can potentially work on something. And I don't think that they were being disingenuous, like, saffron and gun about it. I think that they were probably like, if Gunn believes what he said, that he said

that the flash was the best superhero movie of all time, right? That's what he had said at one point. If he believed that in his heart of hearts, right, which that's probably troubling. Interesting. Yeah. And I say that as someone who, did you see the movie yet? Oh yeah.

And what did you say? We haven't talked to you about it yet. I didn't like it. I liked parts of it. And also one of the reasons why I haven't talked about it a lot too is just because everyone was like, you're out to hate it. You're going to hate it before.

I'm not out to hate it. I really wanted it to be, if I'm going to sit through a movie, I want it to be good, fucking thrill me. But there were some moments I loved in it. The grocery store scene, I was like this is beautiful and moving and wonderful. But so much of it,

I disliked so intensely to a point of, I understand everything subjective, but I don't know if I want my taste makers saying what they've said about this movie. Yeah, I get it. I still stand by the fact I enjoyed watching. I saw the movie twice. I enjoyed it. Same thing, though. I just watched, so late to the party of your friend's mind, they do reactions, and they did a reaction

like a month ago where they watched the Flash for the first time. Oh, wow. And when I, I think that there was this reason they had to watch it for the first time, but they were, there's that scene in the very beginning with the babies and all that. The CGI... The baby shower. The baby shower line. It does... It's a bad line.

It's a bad line. The bit, to me, plays better in the theater than it does on even watching it through their screen. And the CGI is terrible. I've been very critical on the CGI since the second I saw it. It plays like... They said it plays like one of those bad

what is it, those commercials they show Super Bowl. I forget which one. Not Geico, but E. Trate. Is it the, remember the baby E-Tray? They said, that's what it seemed like. And I agree with them. It looked like Xbox 360 cut scenes. It did. It did.

And it rips you out of it when it's the opening scene. So, staying in that lane, what do you think about this idea? Because I like Andy Mochietti. I really do. I think he's a great director. I really do. And I think that the dramatic moments and those emotional moments as you just mentioned, the grocery store, really

hit, right? And I think he understands. The stuff that he did with Batman, both Keaton and Affleck in this movie, really works. So what do you think about him doing, Raven the Bowl? Do you think it's a good choice? Do you think it's a mistake? I don't think I'm the right person to ask, honestly, because I'm so unfamiliar with his work. Because, I don't know if you know this about me. I am a huge wimp. I hate scary movies. I hate them. So you've never seen it. So much.

No, my husband loves those movies, and he tries to get me to watch them all the time, and I refuse because, like, I saw Saw, maybe five years ago. Wow. And I cried for three hours. hours. We also had a ceiling fan blade rip off right when it ended and go across the room. So I was like, he's here. Jigsaw's here to kill him. I made him check every cupboard. I was ridiculous. So I clap. Yeah. People would send me like the penny wise with Georgie's arms gift and I would cry over that. Hello, Georgie. I go, oh no. Where is it? Look up there. Oh no. Is he here? Look up there. I hate it. I hate it so. Because the Tim Burton,

or not Tim Burton, Tim Curry one, messed me up as a kid. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was great. Yeah, it was, I mean, but Mochietti's style for those movies, he just does him really, really well. I only hear good things. Yeah. The first one to me, the same, very, when we were growing up, the same thing, part one was better than part two, the Tim Curry one, right? It's just, I guess, is how the book plays and it transfers over it. Same for me. Part one was better than part two.

Terrifying children is always, always better than terrifying adults. It's totally true, especially. The only thing that concerns me moving forward with Muscietti, that I can speak to is standing by the CGI saying that was a stylistic choice. Yeah, I didn't like that either. Oh, we can just say what it is. And if that was a stylistic choice, wholf, in my humble opinion. I would have much rather them said, yeah, we had to rush.

We had to really move forward. And I wish it got to a place that I felt better about. But if you liked that. Same. I would have much rather him said, look, here's the deal. We had certain things that we wanted to do. And we couldn't because, like you said, it was rushed. but we also, we've been overworking these VFX artists

and it's pretty public that they've been overworked and there was only so much we can do. We stand by what we have, we like what we have, but if you have a criticism on the actual CGI of it, we understand because it just wasn't, it's not at full capacity, but to say, no, this is what we wanted, that does make me nervous also because it's like,

let's not hope that that's what Brave and the Bold looks like. Exactly. Yeah, but it's also why this is where my audience starts to like, bang their head on the table because I bring it up at least once an episode and it's and it's the budgets right and it's like one of those things where you're you're making these massive scenes like that baby scene it was a gimmick and it was a gimmick you could have done that scene without the babies and everything else of the fact that this hospital is falling apart he's got to do something heroic real quick you cut down like five 10 minutes of that thing scale down get a little bit more of the

practical effects, and you cut about $10 to $15 million off your budget already just on that scene. Exactly. And that's what they, it's the same thing with like Indiana Jones and all these people like the Indiana Jones ending. Did you see it? Did you see it? Did you see in that? Did you like? Did you like? Did you like? I thought it was okay. Okay. Yeah. It was fine. It was better than the last one. Well, this is another point of contention in my home. My husband loves Crystal Skull. He loves Crystal Skull. It's in our wedding vows that I was like, I am marrying you despite you loving this thing. I love it. That's put in there. And he left it furious where he was like,

this is worse than Critchell's skull. How dare anyone ever tell. Yeah. Logan Petz has a lot of hard opinions that I do not agree with. Wow. See, all kinds of people didn't be together, folks. And he can marry anyone. Wow.

But, man, because there were just parts that didn't feel like an India Jones movie. The last one. The last one really did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think that there was. And Peter Waller Bridge also was kind of just like a bitch.

An Ahole. Yeah. And I love her. Yeah, I think that there was, her turn was, to, it was like, hey, if you act like this, the whole movie, it's going to be hard to sell that you're the good guy. And then they're like, oh, just, now she's a good guy. It's like, it's like in wrestling.

It's like, they've been healed for so long. Why are they good now? Because we need, we want the audience to cheer. Yeah, we want the audience to cheer from. It felt that way. I agree. But the one point that I really been making about is like, Last Crusade is to a lot of people the best Indiana Jones.

To me, Raiders is my favorite. But a lot of people love the last one. and I think that the point that I've been making is what's so special about that movie is Indy has to go to save his dad and he's got the things he has to do the penitent man shall pass and then he sees the night.

That budget is not, it's, you know, maybe for the time, it's still because of location and whatever it might be, but it's not a lot of stuff going on. It's minus Donovan's face melting off or whatever it might be. There's not a lot going on in there

and the reason why you were invested is because of the lead up to it, the quest, the emotional attachment with his dad. Yes. And that stuff is not only missing Indiana Jones, it's missing a lot of these movies. And I think that that's kind of what I hope that DCU can do and stuff. Like, look at Barbie. Barbie is going to be, might surpass Mario, we'll see, but it's going to make a billion dollars.

For sure. And it costs $140 million to make. Now, 10 years ago, that's. a lot of money. Now for a blockbuster, that's like, that's modest. Yeah. Well, especially compared to what we're seeing right now. The other concern just backtracking tremendously back to Batman, Brave and the Bold. Historically, those stories in the comics have always been team up stories. I don't know how I feel about that as our launching point for a new Batman either, of how Batman plays with somebody else. The only reason I would advocate towards it is because we have

so many Batman. That's true. We have just so many. It's like Bail, Keaton, Affleck, Patinson is just, there's just so many of them that have been on their own for a long time, you know, and all of our stories have been, I mean, because the Patinson one is, he's not going to find Robin. I don't think because of this, I don't think he's going to find Robin at all. If he finds Robin, it's going to be his head in a box, it's seven. It's true. It's true.

I think so for me, I don't mind it because I think by, and I think it also differentiates the, the Batman that much, that if you start, if you're at the starting point where they're just together as partners, it's like, oh, that's who this, that's where we are here. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, that's the only reason why. But other than that, I don't know, guys, what do you think about this Galgadoadot thing? Where can it land?

Like, is it because, what scenario that we painted do you think makes sense? Is it the fact that they're going to do an elseworld's thing? Are they going to, how are they going to make it work? Is it going to not happen at all because of the failure of the flash and because the Shazam 2 is a stinker? Like how, how, what do you think? Go ahead and comment. Let me know.

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And please, get yourself something that you think you'll enjoy. All right, Chris, did you watch this Loki trailer? Hell, yeah, I did. It's broken some records. It's broken some records here. Loki Season 2 trailer Breaking Records. The first trailer for the second season of Marvel Studios Loki hit yesterday morning and it's broken a record. the preview quickly began the biggest online trailer debut for any series on Disney Plus, any series, 80 million views in the first 24 hours.

Not only that, but the sentiment toward the trailer was reportedly extremely positive at almost 90% on Twitter slash X. Ew. Oh, I hate that we're doing that. Nobody else to call it anymore. Nominated for six Emmys, the first season remains the highest rated Marvel Disney Plus series on Rotten Tomatoes at 92% over 33333 critics. and 90% verified audience score. The first season remains Marvel Studios most watched series on the Disney Plus service and was the first show

on the service to exceed one billion minutes of watch time in a single week. The new run picks up in the aftermath of the first season finale when Loki finds himself in a battle for the soul of the time variance authority. Okay. What did you think of the trailer? I loved it.

Yeah, it's pretty good. I do love that we're still getting all those Tom Hiddleston hair flips. It's my favorite drinking game with Loki. Oh, really? drink every time Tom Hiddleston flips his hair. I have to look at that now. Every time he like pops up somewhere, he's like, like, ha!

Like a mermaid in the water? Yes, it's him doing the aerial shot. It's great. Yeah, I liked it too, because I go back and forth with my favorite series, either being WandaVision or Loki. Oh, yeah. I'm surprised that Loki's higher rated than Wanda Vision.

It's fun. I like it, but. I think what it does, it really combines an element of really fun science fiction, and even though Loki is such a significant MCU character, it kind of distanced itself a bit, even though, which ironically, it's the one that's probably going to play the most into the connecting the new phases, but it just feels separate. I almost had like, do you remember the show Sliders?

Yes. It has like slider vibes in it. I love Sliders. Right? And so it has like that kind of vibe to it. I love the fact that Owen Wilson is back and their team up and their chemistry was great, like that buddy cop thing that they have. And I like, I love the way that it shot.

And then you add Kihu Kuan to it. and it looks pretty phenomenal. He, well, and he drops into this so seamlessly in the trailer, where he makes sense in this world. Literally. Like, yeah. He literally drops into the trailer. I love it so much.

I've always loved that Loki does have this very fun, Doctor Who Twin Peaks kind of vibe. Yeah. And I think this is, I mean, speaking of heel turns and everything, Loki's character arc has been so beautifully done throughout the MCU, where it's always made sense. He still usually is out for himself, but you see him giving in to all trueism.

him every now and then and giving into wanting to help family or friends or a higher power. And it's been really cool to watch and it's executed well, which can't be said about all the shows. And it's also a testament to Tom Hiddleston, too, because he does seem like he's still very much invested. Yeah, he seems like he has so much fun. I love watching it. He really does.

And I think that there's, and the character, I think out of all the characters, maybe maybe since Hugh Jackman's like Wolverine is the one that is consistently a, evolving, right? Because Thor, they kind of lost its way with, because Thor became like a Saturday Live character and kind of lost who he was. There were things that were great about Thor and then Chris Hemsworth is fantastic, but you don't really, like who is Thor really except he's kind of like a dad now. Yeah. That's the one thing. But Loki is always discovering himself and doing different things and we're learning more about him and the way that they, I think, brilliantly combined. I mean, the Loki that is transformed is the one that we met after Avengers won. It's not even the one

that went through all that other stuff. Exactly. Which is also really interesting. And I like the way that they are very aware of that and how that plays into what the events of what went down in season one. But the question I want to ask you is, for me, I feel like the Marvel Cinematic Universe thus far has not been as connected to the overall theme

of what they announced at Comic-Con. They're like, well, we need to get to Avengers and the Kang Dynasty, and secret wars and all that. But what really is the story thus far leading to that? Do you think that we found that out or do you think this is going to answer some questions? I hope this answers some questions

because right now it does feel like we're putting pins on a map of where we're supposed to be. And it doesn't feel like they're actually connecting. You know, we just saw this with secret invasion of, okay, well, now we're going to have a really different kind of story for the Armor Wars story because of whether or not Rode was a scroll since, Civil War. I know some people are still

debating that kind of thing. The director said that he thinks and it's like don't say that. You should know. Yeah. That made me so bummed out of, I'm pretty sure. Oh, you guys should know. You guys need to figure that out. Yeah. It's, again, it goes back to this idea

of cafeteria style or spaghetti at the wall of, well, did you guys like that? Right. Because maybe if you liked it, then that is exactly what we intended. And if you didn't like it, no, no. Rode was just getting a colonoscopy and we snatched him which is, you know, and the Marvel universe also has just lacked consequence

for a really long time too. Aside from Tosh, we really don't have a lot of permanent situations. And I think that's something that this is missing is we need those goal points and those goal posts, rather, to mark where we're supposed to go. And I'm hoping that's what happens with Loki. We saw that end-connecting bit with Kang and everything. We're seeing that carried through.

Also, I find it interesting that they didn't shy away from featuring Kang in the trailer. They didn't show them a lot, though. No. They showed him, because I think it's impossible to not show him because he's going to be such a part of the thing. So I'm glad you brought that up because this is, here's where I stand on that.

It's very different from the Ezra Miller situation in general, right? Very different because we don't have all the facts yet in this case. There's been, there's been accusations, there's been on both sides of what's, what's happened, what's true, what's not. They haven't decided anything in the courts. And this is one of those, the differences that, what I brought up when it comes to, like, Ezra Miller, and like, well, how come Jonathan Majors being fired from anything? And Ezra Miller hasn't.

Well, Ezra Miller was already in a movie that was shot, and they're putting it. I think they may have done reshoots. They might have done reshoots. But still coming out, Jonathan Majors was never fired for Marvel. He was not, the companies that were going to put him in other movies, decided not to go with him forward. If it's fine out that he's completely innocent

and everything to do, probably go back and go look. We'd like to work with you again. And he can, if he wants to, he can give him the, you know, the arm. But it's, but then it's the other side of it where more evidence comes out that he did do something. So Marvel, I think, has actually played this right.

I think they played it right. I think they haven't acted hastily and right away and said, no, you're out. You have accusations, you're out. They said, let's wait. They push the series back. There's been no mention. at all because they're waiting to see what happens.

But I do think that it was a decision to say, we have to show him because he's a character in the show that is actually, he's our main villain that's going to be the guy. But I think it was also a reason why you saw him for so little. I was honestly expecting, though, just the voiceover and shadowy figure. I was not expecting to see his face. Okay. So that's why I went, oh, okay.

Because, yeah, it is a very different situation that's still unfolding. And I think Disney also, they'd be fools not to, but it feels like they watched what happened with the Ezra Miller situation and went, how do we want to go about this? Do we want to release a statement? Because they did do just the, as events unfold, we will make decisions. Which is a mud is mud kind of answer. But at least they said something.

Whereas WB for the longest time was like, what? No, we don't know. They didn't even say that. They didn't say anything. There was no addressing it, which I think is why everything got so much worse with that situation. Because once it starts snowballing, how do you jump in and stop it? or when is the right moment to say something. Yeah.

And it just feels like too little too late. 100%. And so, and it's something that, you know, obviously they've been watching and seeing, and I think that I think, and you might know, the case I think is supposed to place in October.

Is that, is that right? I believe so. Which is coincidentally right around the time that Loki comes out. So who knows how that's going to unfold, but. Does it come out in October? I thought so. I thought it was August.

Maybe you're right. I think you're right. I think you're right. I think you're right. I think you're right. I think you're, wait, are you right? I know that Asoka comes out in August. Oh, I might be switching things.

But you might be right. They might both be coming out in August. That'd be very nice for me. August is my birthday month, so I assume everything is planned around me. October 6th. No, see, you're right. October 6th, yeah. That's my birthday month.

So, yeah. What sign are you? Libra. Oh, okay. That makes sense. It does? Yeah. You're a very balanced individual.

Thank you so much. Tell my wife that. I will. Please. Yeah. I'm Chris, it's nice to meet you. Let me tell you a few things. Your husband is well balanced.

So it is a, yeah, it's absolutely, I think right around that time, maybe I'm wrong that when that case comes out, and I think that they're going to be able to make, and where it comes to the writer strike, the sag strike, all these things, they're going to look and go, all right, we have time where we're backing certain movies up,

Avengers will be pushed, Fantastic Four will be pushed, all these movies are going to be pushed back, it'll come out, after we're all dead. 2080. Yeah, exactly. You're being optimistic.

So I think, and I'd love to see that movie. I'd love to see Marhershali as played. Some of the best casting, maybe ever. Yeah. Maybe ever. And it's just not going to happen. I'm mad about it. But anyway, you know, he's just brought up the sax trick.

Speaking of the sax truck, we've got to talk about the Stephen Amel thing. Oh, Stephen. Yeah. All right. So Arrow Star and He'll star, Stephen Amel, made some comments, man. I don't know where it was it. Galaxy con.

Is that where it was? GalaxyCon? There it was in North Carolina on the weekend. And he said, I support my union. I do, and I stand with them. I do not support striking. I don't. Before going on to call it myopic and strikes being a reductive negotiation tactic.

The comments have drawn a harsh backlash from many corners, including some of Emel's former Arrow guest stars, including Kirk Acevedo, who tweeted this effing guy. And Matt Lesher, who tweeted, it's still waiting on that comprehensive list of totally non-reductive negotiation tactics we get to employ now. Thank God for superheroes. Any second now. Today, Amel sought to clarify his thoughts and a lengthy Instagram post explaining every sentence of his original comments.

And here's an excerpt. I'm an actor and I'm speaking extemporaneously for over an hour. I amote, but I certainly don't think these issues are simple. Our leadership has an incredibly complicated job and I'm grateful for all that they do. despite some of my terrible acting work, I assure you I am not a robot. From an intellectual perspective, I understand why we are striking, but that doesn't mean it isn't emotionally frustrating on many levels for all involved. No shit.

Stay quiet. I'm simply sad that we don't have a chance to celebrate a show that all of us figuratively and I literally broke my back for. However, at least for the foreseeable future, I choose to stand with my union. When you see me on a picket line, please don't whip any hard fruit. He's definitely trying to, you know, throw some jokes and stuff. Yeah, he'll get back, being a little self-deprecating. He is. And this is what happened.

He was in this con, and he was surrounded by people who love him, and they were cheering him on, and he was saying, you know, whatever he was saying. Then he's like, yeah, and he, for a second, thought he was sitting in a room with his best buddy. Yep. And he decided to say it on a microphone in front of, on a camera, his thoughts. And it went everywhere, as it showed. it's like dude you're allowed to have your

thoughts on what you think but you have to understand you are a prominent voice especially in the geek space and all these things too your voice is going to carry over and it's going to say oh well I don't like striking I think it's dumb and it's counterproductive as all this stuff too and it's like what about the people that are

breaking their back Stephen online every day you're you can have your thoughts about it but shut your hole well and especially when this is all the entertainment news new cycle is. Right. You are absolutely going to be put under such a microscope right now.

And, you know, I talked about this on Junkampia's show. The use of the word myopic, too, is just, I think, something everyone's clinging to. One, because it's short-sighted to strike. No, striking is about endgame. And of course, it's inconvenient. It goes back to the Bob Iger comments. This is disruptive. Right.

That's the whole fucking point of a strike. Right. You know, we were talking about this at breakfast. We've been on strike for, what, two and a half weeks, maybe three? the writer's almost at 100 days. That's crazy. Three weeks of not working for an actor is pretty goddamn normal. Right, exactly.

We all have seasons, we have swings aroundabouts. I think what's particularly frustrating, and what he brings up here, is he can't promote his show. That's exactly what it is. And I'm sure that is so frustrating. Especially a show that he loves, and it's doing okay, and he wants more people to see it, and he wants to be able to promote it. Yeah, and there are different rules, too, between the writers and the actors. I know for us, too, it's been a very very,

complicated thing of what we're allowed to do of, well, the AMPTB is not paying me, so am I allowed to talk about movies? Nobody really knows. I'm allowed to do this. SAG is a little like, don't, but maybe. And whereas writers can talk about past work, things like that, they just can't promote current things. It wasn't a smart statement, but especially right now when, this is when I put my tinfoil

hat on, I've talked about this on some other channels too, the AMPTP owns, or the companies that are in the AMPTP are owned by the. the traits, right? So like, Dick Clark Productions is owned by Penske Media, who owns variety, who owns deadline. So they love these stories that talk about the divisiveness, the infighting and everything. And it takes away from the focus of, hey, yeah, striking isn't something anyone wants to do. Shouldn't we be dealing with the big suits right now and then come back and deal with all this shit? Because the sag isn't perfect. We've got a lot of issues there. We've got a lot of things we need to sort out, but maybe not right now. Right. And that's what's going to, and you're right,

You're absolutely right, because that's where the story should be, hey, did you know, and this is another thing we brought up a breakfast, that we just kind of, we talked about this story about Stephen Mill longer because it's more divisive, if you will, but like the writers are, they're going to go back to the table. They're going to go, that should be like the major story. Exactly. And it's like, no, Green Arrow is talking shit. And it's like, and again, I've never met.

Stephen and Mel, I actually have heard nothing but really good things about the guy from people who have worked with them and other things too, but this was someone who was not reading the room, someone who clearly wanted to promote their show, who was frustrated by it, and you're allowed to be frustrated by that. You're absolutely allowed to be frustrated by it, and you're allowed to have this opinion on it.

But to have a public opinion on it was irresponsible, it was insensitive, and it was a bad move. It was a bad move because, you know, like any other opinion, I don't have to agree with your opinion. Like if I had this conversation with Stephen Amel with cameras off and he was sitting down, I had a conversation and he said these exact things. I don't necessarily agree with that, but I wouldn't go tweeting and go,

hey, guess what Stephen just did? No, it's a private conversation that we're having. And that's the other thing, too, is the reaction to it as well. We're also heated about this, especially those of us who live in the markets where things are being affected on every level. Our friends who are makeup artists or Greensman or, you know, restaurant owners in the L.A. area

are super affected by all of this. So we're all very, very heated. It's emotional. There was a great piece in the Wall Street, that was like, we need to just on all sides take a breath to calm down to have better negotiation tactics. But I do wish somebody had said, hey, Stephen, why don't we have a chat about this? Instead of immediately having the need-jerk reaction. That's easy for me to say, though. I've had need-rick reactions my whole life. I have said things I should not have said that I've

needed to walk back to. We're all people. We're all human and we're guilty of doing this as well. I just wish it didn't happen in such a public forum because everyone's got opinions. Opinions are like assholes. Yours doesn't have to make you one. I know. And that's the big thing. It is. And it's just like, if you watch that interview when he says it, it's like every other Comic-Con panel that I've ever seen. It's just a guy who's really vibing with his audience that's there, and he mentions something that he goes, he's like, I had a sandwich today. Woo!

And then like they- We love us, stay-to-ass! And like that was where he was. So he felt a lot more comfortable than he should have. You feel so safe with your people. You feel so safe at Comic-Con. And in that room, he probably was. Yeah.

And there's probably not one person in that room that said anything to him about it. The second went online. And even the person who shot, it was like, oh, okay. And that was it. And rightfully so, to be honest, because the people that are sweating out there, and it is not cold in L.A. right now. It's horrible here. It is horrible right now.

And people are out there and they are moving and they are fighting for what they're fighting for. and I think that's also it's people will again rightfully so say yeah he did that because he caught heat that's why he apologized and clarified his comments but he still did it I always I always give people credit because

there are people like you know a lot of times people well the only reason they apologize is because they were getting shit there's a lot of people that get shit and don't do anything about it absolutely well in real life most of the time when you apologize to a person it's because you've been alerted that your behavior was problematic right

you usually don't most people sometimes people do oh hey I think maybe I was out of line there hey I think I think what I said was out of bounds most people don't do that until they see that reaction or get that feedback of dude what the fuck that was not cool you hurt someone's feelings

it is that you know what we were talking about and that thing that you said to so and so it probably wasn't the nicest and like really yeah you know yeah I thought about it and I should go and I'll say so and like that is essentially a lot of it depends like there's sometimes when it's very clear that people don't give a shit about what they're saying,

and they're only doing it to try to, like, put Band-Aids over and stop the bleeding on a business that's taken hits or their image that's taking hits. And this could be that case, but I still give him props that he went the next couple of days and going to, hey, let me clarify. I'm going to be on, and he said, I'm going to be on the picket line and don't throw shit at me, and he'll bounce back from this. He will.

He'll bounce back from it. It's one of those people, people, as you said, I think very well, is that it is a, people are heated right now. They're pissed off. And it needs, it does need to come to an end. I mean,

not because it's frustrating and I have a show to promote. It's because the people who are fighting need to be compensated in the way that they are rightfully deserved. Exactly. This affects the bottom line of people being able to live and live,

not even well, decently. Decently. Decently. And it's a greater labor issue. And not to be political or anything, but if you, You are in any industry, you should not have to work 18 hour days to make the bare minimum to maybe afford a home.

And by afford a home, a place you can rent to live, a one-bedroom apartment with you and your family. That's wild. It is wild. And look, this is not just when it comes to any of this when it comes to work. And there's a lot of different ways. FedEx almost had a thing recently. A lot of different places right now. Places are struggling.

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All right. Before we move on, or before we close out, rather, let's get to this story. All right, we both got a chance to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, what's called Mutant Mayhem. Mutant Mayhem. That's right. And we both really enjoyed it. But the movie already, New Ninja Turtles has snagged 3.9 million just in previews alone.

The critically acclaimed animated feature, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Mutant Mayhem, reportedly grossed $3.85 million in Tuesday night previews last night. The Jeff Rowe directed film. opened domestically today and is reportedly on track for a Wednesday-Sunday hall at least 30 million with some suggesting it could go up to 40. Disney's Haunted Mansion was also projecting an opening of 30 to 40 over a tighter three-day before ultimately debuting at 24 million. It has been written off as a bomb due to its poor international box office and its costly $150 million budget. Turtles has a lot going for it, reasonable budget, more recognizable international brand,

not to mention rave reviews. The film sits at 95% with Rotten Tomatoes, the exact same as Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse, and Mutant Mayhem currently, at 3,513 locations, and we'll expand up to 3,851 by Friday. It's going up against the Meg sequel, which is expected to haul in the mid-20 million-dollar range from Friday to Sunday. Barbie, though, going to remain the queen of the box office with a third weekend haul of 55 to 60 million. That's crazy for week three.

I'll tell you that. Wild. Moving his legs. Sure does. So much to kind of unwrap here. inside of the box office. But the first is Teen's Dream Ninja Turtles. Seth Rogen again, these guys,

Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg, man, they're just like producing machines. They're really good at what they do as far as producing. They have such a unique voice in the kind of comic superhero genre as well, too. The stuff that they've done with Invincible, the things they've done with the boys where they elevated it from the source material, which rarely happens with comic book adaptations. Didn't they do Legion also?

They did. Yeah. And then this latest with TMNT, which is so good, from a voice acting perspective, too, having those boys in the recording booth together, you feel that energy so well in this movie, and it's so, it's so fun. They're just able to bounce off of each other in a way

that you usually don't get the opportunity to do because usually, you know, you know, it's just you in a box and you're maybe hearing somebody else's pre-recorded eyes. You've got to imagine that person. It's like playing D&D by yourself. Right, right, right. Or it's just, uh, theater of the mind, let's go.

I'll do fight noises to nobody. and this is so well done. The animation is so gorgeous. The camaraderie is so great. The storytelling is good. Comedy's good, too. Yeah, it's, I enjoyed it a lot. And I was telling you, my oldest really loved it.

Youngest just didn't get it, but she's only five years old. And it is scary for a five-year-old. It is, for sure. There's some heck in violence. There is. And I think that's one of the things she kind of hit her head a couple different times, but I think she was just like, yeah, I don't know, it's not for me. but not because it wasn't a good movie

is because she's not ready for it yet but the 11 almost 12 year old loved it I just loved it thought it was great laughed a bunch of times and I thought it was a good telling of the story and I think that it'll be

it's gonna have legs it's gonna do very well and it's gonna be you're definitely in a second movie for sure and smart that they don't lead with Shredder as the villain in this movie

really interesting villains too. I enjoy it. Focusing on that T-CIM kind of situation. It was smart though because now it's almost what they did in like Batman Begins. Right? It's like, okay, we're not leading with the Joker. We don't have to rely on the Joker for this one. We've done the Joker before. We'll get, you'll get to them. Yeah.

And when you get to them, it's going to really deliver. And that's what they're doing here. And I think that that's, I think this movie's going to do very well. I think it's going to open it way better than, because they projected, like, haunted mansion was projected to do better than it did and then it didn't. But I think they were also right. the brand of Teenage Reindeer and something for kids to see more so. Because Haunted Mansion could play, if you don't know it well enough,

it could play like a horror movie or something. Exactly. And you also have, there was the Eddie Murphy version of it too. That's right. Yeah. That did not do particularly well. This one definitely does take more of a Pirates of the Caribbean approach where you see homages to the ride that makes sense.

Yeah. But it's cute. It's a cute movie. I missed it. I missed it. I had a screening for that twice. I missed both screenings for it and just didn't get a chance to go out and see it. So I tried to tell people if I missed the screenings,

very unlikely for me to get to the theater. It has to be hard with kids. It's tough. It's amazing that you see movies, period. Well, I mean, it's part of the, that's when it's part of the job, right? Like, when I'm able to get the screening, I put it in my schedule. And I saw the Meg 2 last night, by the way, and people are like, well, you had your reaction up.

It's gone. Well, the social reaction is usually, you can put the social reaction up, and then the review embargo is like a day two later. but apparently they're both at the same time and that was told to me by another critic and they were asked to take their thing down so they took it down they asked me did you have to take yours down? I hadn't gotten an email from Warner Brothers

but I'm like I'm taking it down. Yeah, better safe and sorry. I'll put it up on Thursday when the embargo lives if that tells you anything though. So anyway, so that movie comes out. The Meg 2 will do fine if at all. Haunted Mansion is going to continue this is again, that movie costs way too much money

for $150 million. I mean, Lekees Stanfield, very talented actor. So good. So good, but not a household name yet. Should be. Yeah, but not yet. Yeah, I want him to get there. Rosario Dawson is getting there.

She's still but the same thing where you look at, and a lot of people are what? If you're in the space, of course, and you follow, like, if you're a big movie buff, of course you know who Rosario Dawson is. But I don't think, like, she's, She's not a ticket. Like, oh, I got to get that because of Derry Dawson.

Exactly, yeah. They didn't have anybody like that in this movie. Owen Wilson, maybe not really. I mean, he's famous, but there's not enough to, you're going to buy tickets. So I don't know. Even Danny the Vito, it's like, I mean, 20 years ago, 30 years ago. So I don't know. This is, and Jamie Lee Curtis, obviously.

Yeah. Great cast. It's a great cast. I have had people ask me, though, too. Was it too busy with that big of an ensemble? And I've heard that, at least some people in the space. I don't think so. Some of the names listed where you hear the whole roster, they are just flashing the pan cameos.

Danny DeVito featured in there. Jamie Lee Curtis, actually like a role in everything too, right? But some of the other folks, it's, oh, hey, there's that guy. And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. But it's cute. I think kids and families are like it.

And honestly, there's a really great through line in this movie about grief and how to process it. Okay. I mean, look, I've heard nothing but, like, everyone that I've heard said the same thing you did. It's cute. It's got a good story. but it's just people aren't clamoring for it, right? And it's the decisions behind it to make that movie for $150 million, bad choice. And it was also, it was originally supposed to come out, I think, this week or the following.

The Marvels was supposed to come out in that spot, but they took it out and pushed it to November. It was in a terrible spot because it's sandwiched right in between Barbie's third week or second week when that came out. Barbie's second week, Oppenheimer's second week. That's a bad spot to be in. It's a weird summer movie, too, in general, I think. Yeah. Well, and right now we have so... Why doesn't it come out in Halloween?

That's what I think. It should have come out in October. And right now we have these kinds of generational IPs dominating. And rightly so, you have Super Mario Brothers. You've got Barbie. You've got TMNT. And it's because you've got, at minimum, what, three to four generations of fans who like one version of that thing and go, oh, yeah, I'll go see that.

And it appeals to such a wide audience. Even if you aren't like a diehard 90s turtle fan, maybe you read the comics and you were like, man, that original Daredevil parody was killer. I want to go see that. Or maybe you really, really love when they started meeting up with like Usagi Jimbo and things like that. Or you love Krang and are hoping to get to that point. You're going to go see a movie like that versus, oh, something based on a Disney ride, maybe. It was much easier for me to say to my wife, hey, you know, I think I want to take the kids to go see teenagers, Ninja Turtles and she's like, okay, go, just go, as opposed to a haunted house, you think they'll be ready for that?

Plus the fact, this is the funniest thing. I've told a few people this story. I was online at Disneyland with my family, online for the haunted house, haunted mansion ride, and I got the invite for the haunted mansion premiere while it was online. Ooh. On the line. Yeah. And I didn't wind up going to it, but because it was, and it was, the premiere was at the haunted mansion at Disney. land, which is crazy. But I was like, no, I'm just, I was just there. It's a hard, long drive.

And honestly, it just, it was a movie. And I saw footage that they showed at D23, whatever last year, whenever it was. I thought it just looked okay. And, but people are digging it. But Barbie is the story again, going to have a big weekend. Oppenheimer. I still saw people walking into the theater to see Oppenheimer yesterday when I was there. So those two movies are going to be, to be pretty dominant. But before I let you out, here. We talked about this when it comes to the box office in general. I want to bring up these numbers so far leading up to

through August or coming up to August here. Okay. Okay. So I want to go over the box office here with Disney. So as you start off, Disney had these movies, these are just some of them, right? Ant Man and the Wasp, which is only around

214 million gross domestically, but didn't make a lot of money. Little Mermaid, didn't make its money. Indiana Jones didn't make its money. Not at all. Guardians made its money and Elemental, I think, barely broke even. So this is, and that's just the big ones. I might have had some other stuff too, but for the most part, those are the ones that stand out.

Elementals started kind of crawling along and it's done better globally than it has domestically. It has, but I think even with that, if it's made a profit, it's made a profit of like $5 million or something maybe. Exactly. I can't even think about what they spent on marketing. So this is, do you think this is one of the main reasons? that Bob Eiger was like, yeah, we're not going to be spending this kind of money in 2024 and on on these kind of movies. And I think it's the right choice if that's the case. What do you think? I think so. They're definitely cutting fat everywhere because Disney prior to these strikes, too, was doing huge layoffs.

I mean, massive layoffs. We were seeing seasoned important animators and things too being let go. The person who saved the Toy Story film let go. So they've been making lots and lots of cuts. I have some friends who've worked for Disney, a long time too, who have said, you know, I know you guys always talk about Bob Iger as this kind of Disney mastermind. A lot of the things that happened with Chepec were Bob Iger things that didn't happen until he was gone. So I'm starting to falter a little bit on, is Bob Iger the genius we've all put him up to be? You know, he's got a master class that's very, very worthwhile and everything. But Disney obviously is in some hot water and the streaming service, first of all,

is not what it should be. Right. And not what they thought it would be. Very true. Yeah. You know, COVID, honestly, was the saving grace for it. And that's, again, everyone had this very emotional, mejerk reaction of, well, that's the way we're going to distribute things now.

And that's hurt them so tremendously. One, ruined how people view Pixar movies. I think that's one of the reasons why Elemental didn't do well. I agree. A lot of Pixar movies really got hit because of that day in this, yeah. There was this just level of, oh, we'll throw it on streaming. No worries. And now when we try to do a theatrical release, I think people have that, oh, that's something I

watch at home. kind of stigma to it. And elemental is something you should have watched on a big screen because it's gorgeous and it's a great immigration story. I think, too, they've just been spending so much money. They acquired so many things. And that's one of the things Bob Iager's great at is negotiating a business deal, making those kinds of requirements and everything.

He's an absolute mobile at that. But they've spread themselves so thin. They're completely Frodo Baggins now. They are butter spread too thin over bread. And they have all these proper. that should be good, that should be firing on all cylinders. You have Star Wars and you haven't made a Star Wars movie for theaters in years? What are you doing, you guys?

Yeah, that one, that's a combination, I think even more so of, but that's, I think that he's been, everybody, well, Cheapeck and I were putting the pressure on Kathleen Kennedy on that one. Absolutely. Because, like, and then the next. Well, everyone loves to blame Kathleen Kennedy. And is she infallible? Absolutely not. She's made some bad choices, but also.

Yeah, I think that recently, though, I think up top people were blaming her and going after her just because. I think the way that I put it now that I think is the best way to put it is she's a manager of a franchise team that she just, her plans aren't working. Yeah. And then she needs to go run another team. For sure. But I think that it doesn't change the fact that there needs to be changes in general at what they're doing at Disney because they went from this. Everything was hitting, as you're saying, for all cylinders.

Now it's like, I mean, and last year was not great either. Lightyear lost a ton of money for them and Strange World lost a lot of money for them. So they have not been hitting in strides in the way that they, and I think they need to change up some of the way that they're approaching some of their stories and I don't know, a lot of different things, but this goes back to my overall point of this is not a Disney thing, this is an overall industry thing. Scale that budget down, man. Really?

That's it. Scale it down so much. Because again, we see these budgets too, and half the time they don't even tell us what the marketing budget was. That's right. So it's just for the film itself. So even when we are seeing somebody break even, it's typically not the full story. Yeah, the marketing is usually anywhere between 100 or 150 or even more so, depending on the budget itself.

It was a pleasure to have you here. Thank you. I love being here. I love having you here. You should come back again. It's great. You're so close to so many places I like to go to. Oh, really?

Yeah, there's an Italy like 15 minutes away from here. Oh, yeah, Italy. That place is great, too. So, guys, please, where can they find you on the online? Oh, I'm on, I guess I'm still on Twitter. I don't really check it though. X, please. Yeah, excuse me.

Oh my gosh, Elon. I'm so sorry. But you can mostly find me on Instagram. It's Chris Carr is where I'm at. Or if you want to ask me about voiceover questions, my studio is speakfriendstudio.com. We do demos. We do classes.

I actually have a voiceover boot camp coming up August 19th. And it's a one-day little intro to kind of get your feet wet and see if you like voiceover. Please do that. Please go and check it out. It's a pleasure to have her back. I know that last time we had Chris on with. with Roxy. We'll have to have have to have Roxy back in soon.

Oh man. Shout out to Roxy. She's got a short film coming out that they paused because of standing in solidarity, even though it's a completely independent film. And that is such an integrity move and really just impressive from her and the whole team with that. That is really stellar.

Learn something from her, Stephen Amel. Come on. For real. All right, Arrow. We'll see you on the flip side. Thanks, everybody, for joining us here today. As I mentioned, if you're brain knew the show. You've never been here before. Hit that subscribe button. Help us out. Get us to 100,000. We're moving there. We're getting close. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, everywhere podcasts are found. It's the big thing. We'll see you next time. Bye.