The Kristian Harloff Show - WOW!! 10 year UFO DISCLOSURE plan LEAKED at the SOL conference! Gary Nolann and others. This is big!

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow This could be the biggest UAP news to drop since the hearings. Gary Nolan held a conference at Stanford with some of the big names in the UFO community and together they shared a 10 year plan on disclosure to the world population on the UFO phenomenon. In this episode we go through the reports of potential UFO disclosure from 2024 until 2034 and how that might impact the world and the way we see the world moving forward. From the claims of David Grush to more whistleblowers coming forward, the biggest new story of our lifetime could be happening before our eyes. Join kristian harloff, Mark Reilly, and Attack Peter for this supersized episode of UAP Tuesday of The Big Thing. #UFO #UAP #SOL #GaryNolan #DavidGrush

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Welcome back to UAP Tuesday. What a show we got today. Look, we were going to do an in-person show with me and Riley, and things didn't work out, but they actually really worked out because not only do I have Riley and we're going to be able to go back and forth. Last week, I had him on and we got lucky because he's available this week, and that's attack Peter. And the reason why is attack Peter and I are texting back and forth about this stuff as Riley and I are as well.

But like this conference that Gary Nolan just had and the the sole conference and all the stuff. I mean, this was essentially for those people who follow this channel regularly, it's very similar to what like Marvel does when they come out and they go, here's a plan that we've got set out for the next 10 years. There's a release this information. and they're going to be do it all. We're going to find out in the next 10, a 10 year plan to find out everything going out in the world and how there's this disclosure plan and showing. It's when you find out all the information that we've found,

this picture, by the way, this thing that came out was leaked. It was a guy that walked in and go, oh, look that plan. And they kicked him out. And the guy tweeted it out. It was that fast. So, sir, you're a hero.

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Nuts is all this stuff that kind of came out over the weekend in this conference. I'm still digesting everything, Christian. This is insane. The Marvel release calendar, I think, is an apt comparison because you look at this thing and you're like, okay, I'm thinking, and this is what I'm thinking to myself. How old am I going to be and how old is my daughter going to be now? Right. And this stuff starts happening.

I'm like, all right. Let's break this down. Let's break it down. And of course, attack Peter, who I, been talking to about this. Peter, there's so much. And you said you were going to get getting like overwhelmed with how much stuff was coming out. I mean, my mind was racing all weekend, just reading this stuff and then just like thinking, well, if this is legit, then maybe that means that could be legit. And then if this is real, then what does that mean for us?

There was someone who was quoted. And I'll forget. And someone in the comments will say it that like 2027 big year just find. Oh, it was Lou Elizondo. Find a hobby for five years. And that. sentence is just so like you know what I mean? Just like it lines up with Riley remember that I can't remember it was Harvard or who it was when we when we kind of joked about it a little bit

and we played that video with the one guy that was like hey in 2027 the alien said they're coming down and they're they're gonna rear CIA guy former CIA guy I think is John Ramirez or something like that that's exactly right and we and we kind of and you know I guess a bit of a

hypocrite I can call myself Riley at that when we listened to that, I went, and that might still be one of those moments. However, there's all of these things that are building up of, like, this, this had the who's who inside of this community to be there. There were a few figures that are missing. You know, Peter, you just mentioned Lou Alizando actually didn't show up. Any reason why that he didn't show up? There's any news on that? I'm pretty sure I heard someone say family emergency or something like that.

Interesting. Okay. I hope everything's okay. But like, so Gary Nolan and Peters, how much do you know about Gary Nolan and what is the, the audience that it's kind of like, you know, again,

like us who are learning all these names and learning all the Lou Alizantos, the James Fox is like, what is what is Gary Nolan significance in all this? I mean, I only just started, you know, I have to admit, like I'm super into it,

but I'm only really just going deep this year. And I know Gary Nolan specifically, for an interview he did with Lex Frieden on the Lex Freeman podcast. And I kind of just, I usually see those come up and I'm like, this is way too intelligent for me. I'm probably going to not be able to grasp onto it. But I did hear a large portion of what he's literally talking about materials found and and laid, left behind by craft. So his whole angle in all of this is let's experiment, let's find out what the materials really

are and why they are the way they are. So that's the angle with him. Well, I know that he's saying. that he actually has materials, right? Yeah. Yeah. So he actually has materials. And you were telling me, as we were talking about this,

is that one of the things that they want to do inside of this was they was, was it, no, no, maybe it wasn't you. Maybe it was one of the things you sent me that was listening to is basically what, what they want to do, Riley, is that, you know how like the funding that comes in from all these outside organizations that investigate this stuff? And they have to get it cleared in a certain way. So if Gary Nolan wanted the government or go through the right channels to have this stuff that he has investigated, it would most likely with the kind of funding that is that that it's there, it would wind up in the hands of the people that have been kind of, no, no, look there. Yeah, let me let me clarify that because he said some, he basically has in his possession materials that he says needs to be researched or tested by a certain type of machinery that they don't have.

They know how to build it. They don't have the money to build it. He doesn't want DARPA money, doesn't want government money, because then at that point, the information that they come up with would be confidential or stay behind, you know, the closed doors of the government. So I think, I think part of the Seoul Foundation or S.O.L is, is that he's trying to excite or interest or find high, high, high dollar donors to invest in this so that it could be public. once the research is done.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, and so, Mark, when you're reading through this stuff, I mean, well, we're going to kind of go through me because there was another, it's another Instagram account that I don't know if you follow it, Mark, but it's something that I know Peter and I have been following it's UFO secrecy. And they're, oh, I want in on it. No, I don't follow it.

You should follow them right now because they're, they basically gave, they give all the updates of this type of stuff and this in general. And it's not just a matter. What I really liked about this post that they wrote was that if you, and I think it was the first thing they said, said is like if you're scrolling past this just to see you know footage of things then you're really not here for the same reasons that we are right not not what they said and it's like if you've read past this point then congratulations because you want to know the information right and it's like

because those to me are the important post those are the ones this breakdown of what this is and like and it goes back to what um jesse michaels who i who i'm becoming more and more of a fan of who had the first, Jesse Michaels is that Riley is the guy who did that inter, the long form interview with David Grush. And he's, he's done some other stuff too, but like learning his history and kind of what he's looking for. He said it the other day. He just did a follow up video on his channel that basically said how the name of the video is how I know David Grush isn't lying. And he did like all these breakdowns and these points. One of the things that he emphasized in that video is something that we cover Mark all the time on this show is that it's an embarrassment in the way

that the mainstream media is ignoring this. Yeah. There is 100% no coverage of this Saul plan anywhere except the internet. And there's a reason why it's getting this reason why we're covering is a reason why I guess Peter, you saw it in a ton of like, were there any news, the news nation or the Hill even cover this? No. In fact, the first day that I, uh, I think it was Saturday or Sunday morning when I,

I sent it to you. I couldn't find anything about it. It was literally this one Instagram post from UFO secrecy. And then after that, like there was nothing. There was like that one video that I sent to you. So it even took a minute to catch on online, which is rare these days. But it was leaked out supposedly from Carl Nell's presentation. The photo was. The photo was, excuse me.

Yeah, the photo of the presentation on a projector, like a, like a, like a projection screen. Then somebody created a table to like translate what was barely visible there. But yeah, dude, pretty wild stuff, man. Yeah. So what we're going to do is so people who know, like I said, and thank God this is the new Marvel thing to look at because I'm so bored of everything. That's true.

You and me both, man. Stanford. I know, no. It was Stanford though, right? It was the hell of it at Stanford where Gary Nolan, I think, is a professor. Is that actor? Yes. Yeah. I had that pulled up by.

that way, just so we don't ruin it, be submerged him. Gary P. Nolan, American immunologist, academic inventor and business executive Harris, professor, endowed chair in the Department of Pathology at Stanford University School of Medicine. Okay. So, and we don't necessarily know how he came in contact with this stuff, this otherworldly stuff, but he says he's had it. He's obviously very respected inside of the community. There are certain people that you see. If you, if you dive deep enough into this rabbit hole, you start to hear the names and know which people are taking seriously which ones are just kind of like the fingers are kind of pointed that they're doing things for their own kind of self gain and all that but he does not seem to be one of those people

yeah yeah in fact i was looking at that up like where he got involved i think he first started getting involved with it because he was uh analyzing an suspected alien corpse from chile which he later revealed to be a mummified human stillbirth so he's not looking to just prove just to prove he's actually a big skeptic okay he's right so i mean skeptic in a in a certain like yeah like he's not all in just because he's looking to prove right he right so then let's what we're going to do is i'm going to read some of these tweets or or post rather from yeah secrecy that came out and um and we'll kind of take it from there okay so i'm going to read a few of these um in today's day one of the soul conference dr diana dana

discuss the convergence of the four UAP research traditions that are becoming clearer and emerging in the current push for disclosure. First, the Invisible's tradition of UAP study like Dr. J. Allen Heineck. Second, UIFology as the public scholarship study of the UAP like the late Dr. James McDonald. Third, the academic study of UAP like the late Dr. John Mack. fourth, the study of UAP as the emerging phenomenon. The fourth one on this list is still being defined, although she hinted at the term interdisciplinary, given the physical and social scientists in attendance,

the terms make sense. So when you hear that, again, what it reads to me is the fact, again, that this is a very serious conference. This is not just a bunch of people, going, oh, like, I saw something on the one time. And like me, by the trash cans going, Riley, I got something. You know, it's like, this is, this is more so like, Red Letter Night.

But this is more of people who are going, okay, enough is enough. Let's get it. This is the revolution, Riley. Yeah. And I mean, to lay out a plan like this, I mean, I've been reading it all day and I still don't know what it says. I mean, it is, it is something that is kind of going in and, just bouncing around because it's so hard to decipher,

which is why I'm glad that Attack Peter is here with us today, because I like to talk about this. I want to like learn some new stuff when it comes to this, but also get to the bottom of like, to your point, Christian, of why the media isn't really covering this? I mean, one, it's a leak, sure. But we are constantly, constantly, constantly, until an alien walks up to the six o'clock anchor at night

and says, nice to meet you, I'm Zorg, the Conqueror, there's nothing that's going to be, I feel, taken seriously until we get more. I mean, some of this stuff is like mapping out, you know, what can come, but like inviting academia to get involved, inviting, you know, more people to, to, what am I trying to say to try to vet the information so that there isn't any more kind of, so the transparency exists. And that, I think, is going to take us even closer to the goal of us and the media. and the world kind of taking this a little bit more seriously. Yeah, and I think that we're going to do as far as that plan goes,

because it took, it took Peter and I a little bit as we were talking about it yesterday. We think it meant this. We were short, it meant this. And then we kind of, he did a kind of a deep dive on how it breaks down. And I'm going to bring up the chart in a little bit later in the show.

And then Peter, if you, if you wouldn't mind the kind of what the way we analyzed, what you think and kind of what year one was and year two and all that. We'll get into all that. But I want to read a little bit more of these things because it's like there was so much more that came out of the conference besides just the leak and I think that's what was so important about them like they're mentioning all the it. It really is like you look at it like how Hynick and by the which and there was there there's so many people that were there. Like so this was like and to me the one of the most important conferences that they've had so far because David Grush did actually I think he sent in like a little bit of a Zoom. He did a Zoom.

I mean, right. And I think that's very important because I think that one of those things where having him show up, even by by Zoom, it does show like, okay, this is not just like a little side. This is this is everybody. It's like I said, this is really becoming. It's like a team. You know, it's like a. It's like a. It's like a. It really is. And it's like there. And there's only so much now because there and I, and I mentioned this last week or two weeks ago, Riley, was that or maybe it was last week with you here. I can't remember. But like the internet. is the reason why we are able to have the conversations we're having right now. As much as I find the internet a lot of times of social media and everything too is an absolute disaster and the default society. It might actually be the opening of the reason why we're able to do this because if it was just the mainstream media and there was no internet, it would be like it's always been. It would be that cycle that everybody complains about. There's still some people you can see in the comments that are like, great, they had a conference and nothing was discussed. and nothing new was revealed. Here we go again for the next 10 years.

But I actually think that there's a clear difference because of exactly this. Like we have pictures and leaks and names that we see reappearing over and over again. And people can get online and I hope they should. I hope they do and continue to expanse on this topic. You know, I do think to Riley's point, the Avengers thing, we know way more about the Avengers, obviously, and all those names than we do about these people. It would be cool at some point that we start to like say, this is a player whose name we see popping up.

This is what we think we know about them. So and so at some point, we should, in a future episode, we should really do that. We should absolutely do that. I feel like Grush for me is the Iron Man of this because he's the first to kind of step out. I think he's Captain America. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, however you want to take it. But for me, he's like Iron Man because it's my first entry into the MCU or the world of UAPs, you know. and that he's like trustworthy. Shows up in a Zoom meeting. I go, okay, all right. That's how the show will, that's how the episode will devolve.

It'll be like, no, he's Hulk because he just. For sure. Devolve or evolve. Yeah, yeah. That won't be controversial online either. At all. Let's continue a few more of these posts from UFO secrets. All right.

Some very interesting statement phrases together through Carl Neal's slides presentation today at SOL. He says that this is very interesting. Hierarchy of beings, prime directive, Schumer UAP legislation is an example of Pesilco's emergent phenomenon. We want to be engineering isotopes instead of raw materials. Disclosure is a process, not an event. Disclosure is a government first problem. I will not comment on AARO or on Kirkpatrick. Control disclosure in order to prevent catastrophic disclosure, 2O, the technology of unknown origin, TNO, temporary non-attributed object,

and he used the Calvin UFO photo in a slide when discussing the UAPs, used the Chinese spy balloon photo when discussing TNOs. So this was, this again, yeah. So what are you, when you, Peter, when you hear all that, what stands out to you? I know it stands out to me. That's a whole episode to me that just that one post,

It sounds like we're listening to Star Trek. But hierarchy of beings and prime directive to me is like, get out of here, dude. Hierarchy of beings already blows my mind because of that just, that right there tells you that this guy, Carl Nell, is aware of or it feels like when he's talk about the many beings that are out there. Yeah. Yeah. And so, Riley, we've heard about gray aliens forever. We've heard about smaller ones. We've seen the little cake babies.

You know, you've seen all these things. So when you hear hierarchy of beings, the fact that these high-ranking officials and all these people, this isn't, again, this isn't like a side room at Comic-Con. This is like, you know, legitimate people that are, nothing against people at Comic-com,

but these people, you know, who was playing, geeking out on the time. You know what I mean, though? Like, this is legit thing. Talking about the hierarchy of beings. Like, did that blow you? Is that in your mind when you read that?

I mean, yes and no. It's what we, it's what I want to believe, but it's like, we keep bringing up the same kind of comment I do of where there's smoke, there's fire. And it's just there's so much out there that you can kind of infer that these things exist, hierarchy of beans, that is, that if you take what we are seeing out there, some of the, some of the footage that's being released, and then some of the peaks behind the curtain with some of this stuff coming out, and they're talking about a hierarchy of beings. Yeah, I believe that.

Because we need to believe that because there is something out there. And if we're going to classify it, if you will, to try to get to the bottom of it, you're going to have to start with classifying the beings out there and that hierarchy there in, right? So the gray aliens, where do you stand when it comes to, like, what is the hierarchy of deference in your mind? Because is it like the grays are the, The grays and the tall whites you always hear about.

Yeah. And from, I mean, communion by that, that movie with Christopher Walken, has one of the scariest moments in it where, I believe it's a gray alien that they're, that they're referring to. But the thing is like looking at them at the end of a hallway, and it is straight out of horror. And it is to think that there could be gray aliens walking around that just, that just want, that just can stare in your soul.

No. And whether they're taking you, like fire in the sky. My friend Kai Blackwood, who I've mentioned many times on this show, who was believed to have been abducted, has mentioned gray aliens before. We've had those conversations

around the campfire in Michigan and then three days later, saw our own UAP. So this kind of stuff is like, there's always something like when we saw our, when we had our experience and our sighting, Kai basically said, here we go again.

You know, it was something to where he was like, yeah, here we go again. And I'm like, what am I seeing right now? And it didn't, and it was days later, and it always occurs to me. It's like, we were talking about it. And then the sighting sort of kind of happened.

Right. Christian, I have to interrupt. Because I was thinking so much about when you've told the story in the past, Riley, something came up on YouTube that I was watching. And I think it was a grush conversation with Jesse Michaels or Jesse Michaels, someone else. But they were talking about two things. Number one, the idea that the, the UFOs when they show up, they do show up after you've been taken.

Like, it's more likely that they would show up soon after. And then the other thing is that the idea that some of them and maybe many of them are unmanned drones and that they're able to communicate and summon them psychically. I mean, dude, it's just like, I can't even think of having this conversation three months ago. But now I'm just like in the context of all this, I feel like you could talk about it. And that's the thing that Stephen Greer talks about all the time. Whatever you think of him, it's always like you can summon them. You can summon them, dude.

Well, you know what the thing is and what I would tell people, if you're not sure about this, what we were talking about. Like, just as Peter said, search the SOL conference. Go to the UFO secrecy, Instagram, look at these particular things. And again, let me ask you this question. If for those who are skeptical and you're, you should be and you should ask questions. But my question to you is, why are all these people that are in the, the room. Look at the people that are in the room. We're going to read another comment from

another high profile person in the second. Why are they putting their careers on the line here? Why are they doing this now? Why are they all just to sell books? Like, I mean, like, why are they all doing this? I can understand if like one or two people are looking to, you know, do buy some books, get their profile, retire to it. Sure, I get, I get the argument there. But all these people, senators also military leaders, like, why are they doing this? why are they doing this particular thing? And why is this guy who is such a revered professor at Stanford, Gary Nolan, why is he putting his ass in the line also to say,

and he's got these things? And what do you think that the reasoning would be? I just, that to me is the most curious. That's what changed for me. That's really, really the TikTok video that we watched at Collider Live that one time, the New York Times article came sooner after. And all these people, legitimate people, standing up and putting their reputation on the line,

I say the same thing, Christian. Why would they do that? There is so much to lose by doing that. When you consider the stigma that we have been talking about every single show, which is that everybody. Yeah. That's the stigma when you go, oh, you know, they don't want it. They see dragons, wizards, and aliens all in the same kind of classification.

Yeah. And it's crazy to think. It is. And the stigma, though, even though, but it's got, I mean, I even heard somebody the other day in one of these shows, like, they had a skeptic on and that's, and they should. You should absolutely, the skeptic was like, oh, I just don't know if I believe that these things are in the sky. Like, that's the last thing that anybody should be. We know they're in the sky. The government has said that they're in the sky, whether or not what you think they are.

Now, whether or not you think that they're aliens or not, but there are still people that are going, I don't think there are UFOs out there. The government's telling you that they are. The government's telling you, he's leaving. He's going, oh, there's stuff flying around. We don't know what it is. It could be another government. It could be this. I don't know what about the reverse engineering thing, whether, whatever it is.

But he's telling you there's things in the sky. That it used to be number one, right? That's number one. It used to be that people are like, ah, there's nothing in the sky. It's just balloons or it's this. It's, it's, yeah, UAP, UFO siding could be everybody, go weather balloon, aerial phenomenon, whatever it could be. Blomp gas.

Yeah, swamp gas. And it was now it's, no, we don't know what it is. It's there. We don't, we're not calling it aliens, but it's, something. And the government is telling you that there's stuff that they don't know with this. I mean, everything has shifted to the point where it used to be like Riley said, there's nothing you're crazy or little green men took me in a ship, right?

Now, any, I have to say in my opinion right now, if you're still in that level of skeptic, tank, you're not a serious person. I just can't. Or you're not paying attention. Fair enough.

Fair enough. Because there's a lot of people that aren't paying attention because there was, I think, I can't remember who it was. It was someone who tweeted out, someone in the community, and I'm sorry. But they were saying they were, I think they were at the conference. And they were coming back from the conference and they stopped at a gas station. And they said to the person at the gas station, I said this to you guys, this thing.

Okay. So when he said to the guy at the gas station, he was like, I just came from this conference. Are you following it up? Are you keeping up with the news of what's going on? The guy's like, ah, you know, with my wife and the stuff like I'm doing with her and I'm spending all my time here. I don't have enough time to even spend with my wife. And it's like no one's really like paying attention to it. Right.

Like 100% want to. But what I'm saying. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that's probably a description of a person who would be open to hearing about it from what you described. But I'm saying, I'm saying if a guy or someone right now is saying, you're crazy. There's nothing.

We're an accident and just deal with it. Like that level of certainty where you're pounding the table, that's not somebody who's just isn't unaware. That person's like religious about the skepticism at that point. And that's a because that's a big thing. When you consider and say with the government saying we don't, we have evidence of UAPs. We're not saying they're aliens. We're saying that we don't know what they are yet.

Now, there are a lot of people in this world that, you know, can that I've met them. I grew up in a family somewhat like it religious. And religion can can you set your clock to it. And I feel that when you. say that there could be something beyond religion out there, beyond just anything, you know, we're not talking angels. We're not talking this,

but I'm legitimate otherworldly things. I think that can really put people that have a worldview for 20, 30, 40, 50 years, however long it may be in a crisis state, which might lead to them going, nah, that's bullshit. Well, I think there's a lot to do with that when it comes to the, I mean, and actually it's funny, because some of the plan itself is like the easing into the public. Yes.

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and we're going to continue on talking about this. I think more of the quotes. I do, I think that we're going to have a section of this show, guys, that is really deep diving into what that 10-year plan is. And it's almost like Peter's getting ready for the big presentation as we get to it. But there's a couple more comments that I want to read.

read and here it is. All right. So side note, this is again, and I guess the tweet itself is from the Juan, Planet Hunter, I guess is the person who was, the person who was tweeting this stuff out. Side note, I was able to talk to Dr. Howell Puthoff for a few minutes during the two days of SOL. I talked to him about his opinion of John Ramirez and then followed up with a question of whether or not Roswell is not being disclosed yet due to the ET Human Hunt. hybrid facet to it or something that Ramirez has stated. Putoff's answer verbatim, there is something to that. So there you go.

So that was, that was another one. So how put off is the guy who co-founded the Two the Stars Academy with Tom DeLong from Blinkinity 2. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, he's listed online as an American parapsychologist, an electrical engineer, but he's one of these guys who's at the corner of every conversation. And from what I gather online, again, as a dumb guy who's just trying to deep dive into it as it comes up, he's respected within this community.

So he's not considered like a snake oil salesman people like and value his opinion. Now, the guy that they're talking about, John Ramirez, is the one that you brought up earlier who talked about 2027. So John Ramirez is, I believe, former CIA, who was the one that said, who came out and said that they're supposedly, some event happening in 2027, and that's when, you know, we quoted Louis Alizando saying get a hobby for five years. And, but full caveat here. I didn't even bring this up before. It turns out also that the Heaven's Gate cult was also, you know, focusing on 2027 for a big event. So, you know, for whatever that's worth.

Yeah. So, I mean, look, this is, but that's, that's interesting, though, that all these things and all these pieces of news and all these people that are well-werect. respected, all of their pieces that we've covered on this show, that people have been covering for years, like, all just seem to line up. And it's pretty interesting that this guy is like, hey, you know, it's like people are comfortable now. That's what you guys were saying before the break is that like what's the difference now and why is it all happening? It seems like one person coming out motivates the other person to be more revelatory. And then the other person will say, screw it. You're going to talk about it.

I'm going to say what I know. And then it's a snowball. because you feel protected. Yeah. The snowball. Yeah. You're no longer the one weirdo in the corner. Right.

Part of a strong team. Yeah. And so, and even like little things like, like what we're doing, right? It makes people like, even somebody who's listening to this show, who feels the same way we do,

but won't bring it up at their Thanksgiving dinner because they feel like they're going to be looked upon as the weirdos. They feel like they have people listen to now or talk to now or leave a comment to is the same reason that these people in the higher elevated places say okay if you're talking as you said peter then i'm talking like david grush is talking about how there's other like there's like 30 40 other people that he's brought to make to make reports i saw somebody you know say that in in the in the comments section going well if uh if if if grush is uh if if if if if if grush is so a couple people saying grush is BS grush is full of it i said

where where do why do you say that yeah like if so why haven't they put this guy in jail. Why is the only thing that they went after him so far and failed was his PTSD that he had when he had when he had to check himself in because and he talked about it because he was having PTSD and they were going after the fact that he was drinking. But it was it wasn't while he was on the job. It wasn't all this stuff. It was and they couldn't do anything. So why haven't they been taking him down? Why haven't why haven't they said this guy's full of it? This is a goose. This is a goose chase, let's throw this guy in the can because he just testified in front of Congress. Like, so anyone who says he's that, but even the people like, like Kirkpatrick and even people

that we don't necessarily think are looking for disclosure, even those people say, I believe Grush is saying, believing what he says, believing what he believes and believes that he got that information from people. But, you know, and like, I guess that was the other comment. I saw people making in the comments. He was like, well, he just says that he heard from a guy who heard from a guy who heard from a guy. He's like, yeah, but those guys, he brought them in and now they're talking to people. I really think, dude, and I've been thinking about this since we last spoke,

uh, the, they overplayed the hand when they went after his character. And I think that actually worked against him because it's, it's like that, that end of last action hero where it's like, he's the bad guy. No, he's the bad. Kill him. You know, that kind of thing. At that point, I think when you go after. David Grush with that kind of stuff.

And that's all you got. And I think everybody was like waiting. Oh, are they going to reveal that he's actually a psycho? Right. And nothing happened. Dude, I think that was the floodgates opening right there. Honestly, I do. It definitely helped him out.

And it definitely didn't, it didn't hurt him in the eyes of the people that were on his side in the first place. As you said, Peter, it elevated them. And even people who were skeptical of it still thought it was dirty that they did it. So it was, it was a, it was a bad move on their part because it was like a 1940s, 1950s move that again, doesn't play anymore because the internet is there. Again, in the 1940s and 1950s, if you do that, you put out one report in the news in the mainstream media, you can navigate it or in the paper. You can make it look however you want. And that's how people are going to see it because they don't have a voice inside of the internet. And the internet is like, cut it out.

Stop it. We know what you're doing here. And then there's like these big pieces. And they're like, it's a very different age for the secret. people now too at the internet. Very different age. All right. Now this is the one though. This is the big, this not the plan yet, but this is the breakdown of the majority of the stuff from this conference that I think people will be interested in.

Again, from UFO secrecy. Day one, here is the key points. Dr. Avi Lowe says, if the government has a UFO in their possession, just show us with multiple UFO insiders in the crowd. Dr. Kevin Kruhe said, that we should not only be watching our oceans for UAP activity, but also other potential planetary oceans within our own solar system, like Europa and Europa implied. Dr. Gary Nolan discussed his analysis of some 1964,

Sukoro UFO fragments given to him by Jacques Valet, who was in the audience, by the way. Jacques Valet, one of the most revered people in this space. Dr. Jacques Valet discussed the seven levels of UAP strangeness and how the keys to deciphering the phenomenon lies in levels five, six, and seven. Dr. Diana Pesolka discussed the myth of Prometheus and how it connects to the four distinct UAP research mythologies, which is the foundation of a new paper that she has authored.

Dr. Hal put off in a conversation with Leslie Keene said that we can take two recent UFO insider statements to the bank. One, Jim Lukatsky's statement about a UFO that the government were achieved and went inside of it. Wow. All of Grush's claims Lu Al-Alazando was not in attendance. Lastly, via Dr. Nolan, the Stardust Repository is initiative to standardize the testing of anomalous materials under a federation of labs organized under a public umbrella and funded by gifts and grants and make the data freely. available. All of that is. Wow. All of that is too.

It's too much. This is what I was telling you that like how many more breadcrumbs? This is like a whole Thanksgiving stuffing since we're in the season. Like there's just so much. You can go to any one of these things and go, okay, I'm, I'm seriously considering this now. But, you know, quick aside in case anybody doesn't know, this is fun for like the regular Christian Harlov channel, big thing, audience members. Jacques Valet is referenced in close encounters of the third time. He's the French. She's the French actor.

Yes. Yeah. And so there's so much about that. I'm desperate to rewatch that. I'm actually like got to rewatch it. But there are so many things in that movie that people now are saying that Spielberg is kind of hinting at what he was told, including the World War II pilots at the end, that this is less about.

Right. And I think that's what Dr. Jacques Valet had insisted. If you want to work with me on this, you need to put a note in there that references the time traveling aspect more than anything else. Yeah, and Hynick was an advisor on. Yeah. Yeah, they all had, it was advisors. And so, yeah, I'm actually going to rewatch that movie as well. But all of this, dude, Riley, like the stuff, I mean, there's so much of that.

But like, is there anything that really stands out after I was reading all that stuff that you're like, yeah. I mean, all of this is making my head swim. It's getting to something that Grush said. that I really have that it just kind of puts everything in perspective for me. And that's like, wouldn't it be great, I'm paraphrasing, but wouldn't it be great to have all this information so that we could be a little bit more calm in our place in this cosmos? Because it's like, how did he say it? And I'm trying to actually find it here in the thousands of screenshots I have in front of me.

But it's the idea that we are having these very, well respected people. And then you bring up attack Peter. I love that you bring up close encounters because that's my red and butter. And that you bring up close encounters in Spielberg shooting this thing in 77, hinting at it then that we're finally what, 40 something odd years later. And now we're here. And now we're getting people that are saying,

well, they could have just made it up or they could have just done this or that. Why? This is smoke, fire, all of that. They are here now saying something that is so. important that we need to like really, really start like not only looking at the sky, but just trusting these people and hoping that the transparency will lead to more people like us sitting around and talking about this to break the stigma down. I think that's number one thing that we need to do constantly is to break the stigma down.

And that's going to be, that's going to Thanksgiving dinner this week and telling my family about this. I'm going to. I'll be the middle of the prayer, just flip the table. I'll be. I'll be that guy. I will because this is so fascinating to me. It is.

But it's still, you're still going to get the glazed over eyes for a lot of it too, especially if they're my good part of the family, this one. So they're going to be, they're going to be honest. Julie's in-laws. So it's my in-laws.

So they're a little bit more into this than, than my own family. But one of the reasons, though, that it's so captivating to us and to a lot of people who are watching this and listening to this is because when I mentioned some of these names, we all recognize them, right?

Like if you're at Thanksgiving dinner and you mentioned, like you said, Hal Putthoff or Leslie Keene, right? Most people are going to say, right, you're going to say, well, who's that? To all of us, we're like, wow, because like the one that stands out to me is Dr. Hal put off in a conversation with Leslie Keene said that we can take two recent UFO insider statements to the bank. One, about a UFO that the government retrieved and we went inside it. So that's pretty much he's saying that happened.

And then all of Grush's claims. And then Lou Elizando, they said it wasn't intense. But those, but those things, all of Grush's claims. Like he's saying, like, take it to the bank. I mean, there's so much there. And the fact that that Jacques Filet is there talking and, you know, like, just, there's, man, like, the idea. And the bank is really, that's, why would you say that? And then that all you had.

Yeah. If all you had was Grush. Yeah. Right. But to have that, that, that they have. a UAP and that they've breached the hole. You know, that is the what they've gone inside. That's the one that keeps coming out.

That's the one that keeps coming back around to me at least. I go, Ha ha, ha, if all you have was Grush's claims and you say, well, you can take this to the bank. What else is there?

Like, he's basically telling you the whole enchilada without telling to you. You know, the quote that you were paraphrasing, right is so good. Imagine a future where we no longer need to speculate about our place in the cosmos. Thank you.

It's huge. And you know what, it ties, it ties back to what you're saying because about your family being religious. And I think about my family being religious, you know, my, my parents' generation and before. He talks about how he was raised very religious grush. After working in the government in this area, I started to become a little bit more agnostic saying, I don't know. There's, oh, studying chemistry is hard to say, eh, there's not an science explanation for this. So I'm less, you know, likely to believe. But all the recent stuff that he's been talking about and disclosed.

closing actually has gone them back full circle to now realize that there more than likely is a creation story that we're a part of. It's just not the one that we know exactly. Right. And that's what I mean, it's like I still have my, my mother who I love dearly, who I say, mom, send some prayers for XYZ. And she says, I'm on it. She loves that, right? She loves getting her prayers in. And, and for me to say to her, which I've done recently, it's like, you know, she's like, what are you doing? You know, she gives me a call on a Monday when I'm recording or whenever. What are you doing?

I'm hanging out with Christian. We're talking about UFOs. That's my mother's version. You know, I go, mom, what do you believe in that? You don't believe in that kind of stuff? And to quote my mother, paraphrase my mother, that is beyond her realm of thinking because religion is, it's God, it's angels. That is what she believes.

And that those things in the sky probably, are weather balloons and what everybody else does. And that also goes to our previous point because your mother doesn't have any of the information. She's not, nor she does she really want it. And she's not going to seek it out. Right. And I can hand it to her on a silver platter. She doesn't.

And yeah, my, my father, however, is a little different story because he likes to believe in that stuff. He has one of his prized possessions. Christian, I've mentioned it before. Attack Peter. I don't know if I've told you that my dad has a picture of a picture given to him by a general. He just says general. I don't know what that means.

But it's a glass next to a picture of a UAP that he says was that the government had. And then somebody took a picture and then gave it to him. He's like, isn't that cool? I believe that, dad. And he goes, well, I don't know about that. Yeah. You won't go a little bit further. I know.

I got to see that picture now. For sure. Come on now. I'll get a Patreon exclusive. Christmas Eve when I'm there with my dad, I didn't want to take a picture. and I'll sit along. Well, that's like the Logan Paul thing. Yeah, right, right.

Logan Paul took the video. What was of, what's his, Chuck Clark? So Chuck Clark is actually, Riley, you watched that whole thing on, on George Knapp, right? Yeah. So Chuck Clark was the dude that when they went out to Area 51 and he was doing all the the metal, you know, he was searching stuff and he found all the stuff in the, in the, from the government that wasn't supposed to be there.

and like the, you know, the, what were they, the, like, oh, shit, whatever he would do the trackers, whatever he found out there. But he's been, he's just, he has had this apparent footage. The story is that Chuck Clark had this footage, um, that James Fox saw that was the most telling kind of proof of UAPs and extra. These two guys that were driving through, I think it was Vegas, wherever they were, maybe me, Vegas, I think. And the, It was like hovering above so much so it was like the most clear footage ever. This is that was described. And so they gave it to Chuck Clark.

They didn't do anything when they gave it to Chuck Clark and Chuck Clark saved it, kind of hovered it and Chuck Clark lives like out in like the middle of nowhere and like a shh, like a bunker. And so James Fox saw it and he offered money to Clark. Clark wouldn't do it. He told him not to talk about it, not do anything. So James Fox brings it up on, on Rogan show, talks about it for a bit. bit and also reveals that Logan Paul drove out to Chuck Clark's place to see it and offered

Chuck Clark $100,000 for this video and Chuck Clark wouldn't give it to him. Logan Paul had a secret camera on him and recorded the footage. Of course, it was and got it for free and recorded it and has not released yet and it keeps teasing it. Now, some people think that Chuck Clark has got like attorneys and stuff after them, and that's what this whole thing with James Fox is, but Logan Paul still has not released it, said that he was going to, said he would. Who knows? It's like six months ago said he would. But like, it's that kind of stuff that all adds up. Like, will that stuff play into it? Will that stuff, you know, will we ever see like how much, you know, a disclosure will actually come through all this

stuff? Because if Chuck Clark has something like that in a safe, Now Logan Paul has it. Just imagine the other stuff that other people actually have that could come out in this overall plan. I mean, that's, yeah, that's what I'm banking on. Yeah. Is more and more disclosure and this plan that Seoul has that leak, you know, it's, yeah, it's a long time coming. But at least it's something because with everything here, my sighting, when it happened so many years ago, Fast forward than to 2017.

And when that Tick-Tac video came out and the New York Times and all this talk now and grush, it has changed my worldview. It really has. It is, and that's, TAC Peter, thank you for reading that quote because I want that. I need that kind of, I am deathly afraid of the great unknown what happens when the lights go out. And now I have a little bit more of hope that there is something more because there is so much out there. And this stuff is like letting that appetite in all of us. Getting that what if and getting some tangible confirmation maybe. Is that what I'm trying to say from people that it's like there is something more to this.

Now, if people are afraid to go, well, I don't want to really face that because more to me is God or Jesus or whatever, however your religious religion takes you. But this for me is so much more because it just it can bring about so much more conversation, bring about so much more interesting ways to look at life and then and to keep going. What happens to get confirmation of the existence of something else out there? Yeah. What will that do next? I can imagine that. That would bring it, that would bring a new renaissance of this kind of scientific discovery, I believe.

I'm very glad that you said that, Riley, because one of the things that we can do, I think as we lead into the 10-year plan and to show you guys, because when we show you the actual leaked photo, you're going to be like us at first and be like, that pool, I don't know what any of that means.

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I have it in front of me. If you want to have it for people to watch, but I got it in front of me. Yeah. Yeah, I'll put it in the in the edit. We'll do it in post. So here is the, so the 10-year plan. This is the this is the leaked photo that came out. All right, Peter, try to try to make some sense out of this.

So first of all, the, yeah, like Christian said, there's a, leaked photo, right? So it's like a skewed view from the side. Some people are who are at the conference are like commenting that they're upset that this thing leaked in the first place because it broke the rules of the conference, yada yada. For our purposes, I don't think any of that really matters, but essentially this was Carl Nell's presentation. Carl Nell for like, for the purposes of this is supposedly in line, or he's the favorite for this community to take over for the head of Arrow to replace Kirkpatrick. And he's got his own credited background.

So look into him. He seems like an important guy. But the big takeaway here, as we were joking around before, is it's like a phased announcement of the new Marvel movies that Kevin Feige does. It's got across the top. It's basically how I believe this is what they are pitching, the Soul Foundation, for how they suggest disclosure take place over the course of the next decade to avoid, and they write that in a couple times,

to avoid catastrophic disclosure. So there's a term catastrophic disclosure, which I've seen people talk about that basically they're trying to avoid because it would be shocking to the culture, to religion, to economies, yada, yada. So doing it this way, this gradual release, which is funny Christians, we talked about this on our last episode together that it's like this boiling frogs phenomenon

where the Overton window, you know, to use two freaking phrases back to back, starts to shift. And now we're not debating whether it's real or not. We're debating like when and who and what and why and all that. But you can see here January 2024, which is a couple months from now. And it's got a green square next to it. And if you look at the bottom of the legend at the bottom. This is a translation of the photograph, by the way, just so you guys know.

When you see question marks, it's stuff that they couldn't really translate from the photo. but this is their best effort to do that. But the bottom is a legend. Green square means on target. The yellow square means at risk. The red square means off target. And then the purple square was later translated to mean to reflect a decision point has to be made. So I don't know what that means to these.

But essentially, it looks like they want to have phase one kick off in January, which is a couple months away. And the point of phase one would be to demonstrate the existence of the UAP, right? So then under that title, you'll see these subgroups, A, B, C, and D. I believe from what I'm watching and reading online that they would like to have plans in place for how the public sector would help with that, right? So how philosophical investigation in humanity. So the government would be A, B would be sociology, religious leaders, et cetera, then in to see how scientific research would be affected or could play a role in demonstrating the existence of UAPs. So how does physics and chemistry and material science and biology play into it? And then D, how the private sector can help to demonstrate existence, industry and society.

So intellectual property, economics, industry. It's fascinating to see it written like this to me because this is what my caveman brain would imagine from watching the X files and movies my whole life would happen. It would have to be a collected effort from like-minded individuals across all the pillars of society, government, academia, science, and the private sector. So then they have underneath that three categories. Data approach. What does that second one say there? I can't read it. Which one?

I think it's, I have a, let's see me see here, data, data approach. There's a secondary approach. I can't read it. I read it earlier. I can't. Objective. So maybe it's analytic approach. Maybe that's what it is.

Reactive analytic approach. Yeah. Oh, there you go. So you see it there. Yeah. Yeah. I have it. So you're on January,

2026, right? Oh, no, no. So I'm just going by that first phase zero column on the, all the left to read into the next, the next column, but you'll see it says data approach, like how, I guess I'm assuming how they would process information and facts and data to back demonstrating the existence of UAP, it would be reactive, right? So in this case, they're like, wow, look at these photos. What does it mean?

Like, we're reacting to the information. Again, caveman brain. So apologies of this is not the case. And then hypothesis generation, right? So basic scientific method stuff here. So you have some video and photos of UAP. we're at the point now where we're acknowledging it exists. And so now we can come up with our hypotheses for what this means, right?

So that's the hypothesis generation. And then what's the point of all of it? Government acceptance. That's the point for the sole foundation at the end of phase one is to get government acceptance wild. And then it, so it continues with those same subcategories through all these columns and timelines. And so phase two, so you imagine it's a whole year to kick off phase one, right? Then phase two, January 25, this yellow square is considered at risk. And I imagine that means, based on the context clues, that they're at risk of missing January 25.

I don't know for them if missing means it would be later or earlier, but or maybe they feel like they have to get to January 2025 on time. if not things are like Logan Paul's going to subvert the whole thing and leak it out or whatever. But at that point, the goal is to correlate signatures. I don't know what that means. I have no idea what that means. I don't know if that means like frequencies of like how they're tracked in terms of signatures. I don't know if that means like a signing campaign. I don't know what that means.

I have no context for it. But again, looking now they're talking about persistent data. So maybe like whatever is carrying over from the first. bits of information that they were reacting to that still say and it goes on these three four and five phase three face four and phase five October 2030 decision point I guess that means that by then they have to figure out how they're going to deal with the rest of everything like that's like the last chance you have to talk to discuss which way to go like a fork in the road because right after that it says after disclosure and yellow and I assume that that means

that by October 2030 because I didn't say January 2020 2020 30, right? I'm assuming that means there's a five-year plan from phase two to phase three where we've disclosed. Its disclosure has happened because now October 2034 is all the time, you know, it's after disclosure. So when that four years between 2030 and 2034, full disclosure. And now it's life and and and the soul foundation is is acting in a post-disclosure world where we're determining the nature of this stuff. And I guess, you know, discussing the or figuring out how to engage is that's what I mean. Dude, it's so wild. It's wild.

It's so much. How do you even react to it? I love this because it brings it is, it is absolutely doing what I believe should be done. And it is, it is partially. this out amongst the scientific community, religious communities, research. We have physics, chemistry, material science, biology, private sector, data approach, all of this, just to let the world know that this shit exists. That to me is so important and I want it to take as long as it takes, even though I'm impatient and wanted to happen now, because I feel that it will,

in the benefit of the human race will bring everybody up to speed. I'm hoping to God that that's what this is. I just feel like we're going to be you know, like Clint Eastwood. I told you. I don't. But maybe.

By the time it finally happens. By the time this happens, maybe. Maybe before that, the aliens will announce themselves. Guys, think of what we're talking about. When you see Kevin Feige on the stage announcing the whole timeline. What is the next day filled with? All these guys' videos leaking everything.

Totally, totally. There's going to be a lot of stuff. I'm just saying, though, by at, what I don't mean that what I meant by that is not that we're going to be really old by the time anything comes out. I'm just saying that by the time we are old men, and this plan goes to be

what it says it's going to be in the full disclosure when there's, there's the ships flipping or going around and there's and they're using this technology now to better the earth if you believe in in hopeful better humanity if that could happen you're just going hey we had a show on youtube years ago where we thought it was going to be something yes past the whiskey zim-zom a world where we're sitting on our porch as old men drinking beers reminiscing on our time the UFO show right and one zips by and one zips by and one zips by and that is

normal. And he's there to pick up your daughter. Yeah. And you're just like, oh, yeah, what did we determine that one was? Well, I think, you know, oh, that's a gray. Right. Yeah. You know, I can't even imagine what that could look like where if it becomes like, you know, I've, I've likened so many times, Kai, I keep bringing them up. I'm so sorry. His eras must be burning every freaking Tuesday.

But we've likened it. and tagging a shark and putting them out in the water to study him and the UFO coming at uh and taking kai and him having his thing he's liking it to that and so if there if there are these uapes out there and we are starting to become have this plan in place what does that look like where it's like we've discovered another you know version of a shark and we're looking at this ocean now and and it's over here now, but it's a UAP. That's incredible to think about. And besides just the idea of like, let's say yes,

there's other life and other things out there, but it's the idea of like what is possible in the galaxy for us to achieve. Like there are people that I believe already know that information, obviously, but the fact that the public can learn it, whether it's in a year from now or 10 years from now, that the understanding of what the universe actually is capable of, of and what the human species is actually capable of and what this stuff and this technology should we have it can actually do to benefit the existence and the and be able to make sure that

the planet stays afloat and there's things that we can add and there's other things that we can do instead of the trivial kind of benign nonsense that we deal with every day that we think is the most important stuff ever that if it turns out that all this information that other people actually get that go, oh, well, there is more to this. Maybe I shouldn't worry about this and I should worry about that. Now, that might be given too much credit to the human race. It might be. But it also might not.

It also might be the thing that says, okay, look, this is a new world. Like I always had that idea in my head of like, I always wanted to be around when like that thing changed the world. whatever that thing was. I always wanted to be there. Even if it was an asteroid that took us all out. I was here. And if this is that thing, then great. Because this plan in general,

because I still, this is what I will tell the two of you guys, we're going to be busy over the next 10 years of three of us. You know, like, we're going to have like in January alone in 2024. And this is obviously the stuff that we've been talking about. Riley many times in this show that Lou Elizondo, James Fox, Ross Colhart, they all knew about this thing.

They all knew this was coming. They all knew Gary Nolan was setting this thing up. They all knew this was coming because this is what I believe that they were referring to when they're like, you know, wait until it comes because they know the stuff that's coming. And this is part of that plan. I think that they knew that the bigger heads of this thing that met up said, look, we're going to present this at this thing in November, but our plan essentially is rolling this stuff out and saying, January,

we're going to do this, this, this and this. And we lead because what it does, this rollout plan is that it turns people who are Riley's mom, right? You're essentially getting those types of people ready over the course of 10 years in the way that they got us involved by why,

a documentary or they got us to because that's how I really you know I was I was fascinated by the thing that we saw and the the tick-tac video in the but I I was always an understanding yeah I'm sure it exists but I was fascinated by all of the facts and or the the evidence or the testimonies rather from the military personnel and the reporting by Leslie Keene and James Fox are the people that they spoke to that it just did not make sense to me why these people would put their jobs on the line and put their reputations on the line. Yeah. If some of them weren't even financially benefiting from it.

So that's why I have a lot of merit to this. There are still going to be tons of people in this comment section that don't buy it and say exactly what you said, Peter. They're going to go, oh, it's just a conference. It doesn't mean it's just people talking. And that's why this 10-year plan is mapped out the way that it is. It's, you know, I was just thinking of the same thing that there's people who are going it's a chart it's people talking it's like two degrees left of an exfiles convention you know what i mean

but at the same time it it can come off like that if you don't have the context of who everybody here is to the fact that it really wasn't an open thing to the public it there's no real from what i could gather maybe i'm wrong there's no like merchandising component of this at all you know it is trying to raise funds but very specifically for what we talked about earlier to build the facilities and have the research in place to verify some of the materials that they're in possession of. Like, I mean, that's how it's going to work. You know, it gives me, and Riley, you touched on this, it gives me a very optimistic feeling,

at least for humanity's sake, to think that these categories of society could work together on anything today and be able to cohesively, uh, get. get a plan together that would be for the benefit of humanity. Like, yeah, you don't want to freak people out with it. Because if it is what it is and we can't do anything about it, there's no benefit to freaking people out for any of us. I'd rather, there's part of me that would rather have no disclosure and people not lose their minds on the planet, right, than to have the opposite.

But ideally we can have both. And like, this is a good potential example of the best of us, right? like the best and brightest minds and leaders in our community that can work together to get this over the finish line. Yeah. I mean, it's in the benefit of all the human race to be able to work together to answer the biggest question maybe. Yeah. You know, what is out there? I mean, it's the same, it's in the same version of is their life after death to are we alone in the universe?

I mean, they unlock the same kind of things for me, you know, because if there is the existence of a UAP and otherworldly, alien or otherwise, interdimensional, that is, that is huge. And that would just put everybody, I don't care who you are, all of us into the same place. And I'm not, and I, and I say that in a way to, to put us all in a, in a position of learning. Yeah. You know, put us in this where. you know, it doesn't matter who you are. You can both agree that if you look up and there is something there and you can't answer it, the two of you sitting there can't answer it.

And then somebody else comes out there and says, we don't know what that is, but we're going to work together to try to figure it out. What we do know is that there is something beyond our earth realm. That could put me, it just level one being like, okay. And the flip side of that is that if you, if the two of us go, we don't know what that is, and you go, I don't know what that is. We want to work together on it.

And then the fourth guy comes out and goes, I know exactly what that is. And what it is is this. And you have that information and the idea of, look, even if we're never, if the scary information of it is we have no control over any of this. And that's the thing. Humans want to have control of everything. And the thing is because that's why we feel, human beings feel like, oh, we've got control over the.

animals, we put them in the zoo, we have control over this, we have control of that. In the long run, we are in the zoo. You know, we are part of the zoo. And it's also, because when you say to somebody that's not following this, inner dimensions and bending space time, time, time, they look at you like you're writing Star Trek or you're some kind of like science fiction nerd or whatever it is too. And he can't even fathom that that's even a thing, like time travel and all that. They just think it's kind of time travel and all these inter dimensions. It's all based on actual science. It's not something that we can achieve as a species today.

But if you believe certain theories, we have achieved it. And that's what's flying around these UAPs. Now, now that's, there's a billion different other theories of what it could be or whatnot. But if there is a definite thing of disclosure in the next 10 years, it says, these things have been here for thousands of years and been bending time and space. And that is indeed possible. That's what we're trying to do with. reverse engineering is trying to figure out exactly how to do that to make sure that we can,

you know, ensure that the human species will persevere and live on. Like, you know, like that's the type of stuff that I want to know. And that's the kind of stuff that I don't know that certain people will even be able to handle. Even if the president came out and said, yeah, guess what? We have this information and we can indeed bend time and space. and we don't know how to do it yet. It's been around forever. People are like, yeah.

BS that is trying to distract from the stuff happening in courts. From the election, yeah. It's like, it's like no, no, no. Yeah, I mean, like I bring it up all the time, my fear of death. But it is, but it is what I believe to be the cause for so many things in this world. The fear of the unknown can lead you into believing so many things. And this is not one of them, I feel, I feel because it detracts from however long you've been around. And Peter, you mentioned it earlier.

I grew up in such a religious family that this would. Yeah, Beetlejuice. The fear of the unknown. The fear of the unknown. It could be Beetlejuice. It could be the UFOs. Zegna. Perfect.

Anyway, so yeah, man, look, there's going to be, there's a lot. There is a lot that we talked about on. this show today man and we could probably i thought we just got started i know it feels it feels like it it's an hour and 20 minutes and we we talked about a lot and it really is um so incredible that and i and i i tell the audience every week that i'm going to stop saying it but i don't think i can this week riley we talk about it all the time it might not be anything to cover next week and then it's like we're going to have something to cover every week peter's like dude did you see this thing it's like now with this 10 year plan, it's like, there's going to be, I mean, the amount of information that's

coming out. Yeah. And it's, yeah, it's like, I'm, and it's also exciting, right? It's exciting in the way that you're like, you know, you're typing in and you're looking for the news. You're like, because the mainstream media isn't covering it, you've got to really go out and do it yourself. And like if you're watching this show, if you're looking at other shows, if you're watching, like I watch, I watch like weaponized. I've been looking at this stuff that, again, that, uh, Jesse Michaels does. I've been looking at, you know, certain people on Twitter and things of that nature. And that's how I've been kind of getting the information because eventually, eventually, the mainstream media will no longer be able to say, oh, we're not going to cover that today.

They're going to have to. They're going to have to eventually. It's going to be, it's like the UFC. It really is. I use this. I use this. Like the UFC in like 2005 and 2006 broke on the scene with the Ultimate Fighter. And I remember watching ESPN. I was big into the UFC back then. I was watching ESPN, and they would disregard it. They barely covered it. Every other second they would cover it.

Like, you'd barely mention it apart in the interruption. People would make fun of it. LeBartre used to crap on it all the time. And then it blew up. And then they had to cover it. And then they started putting it on their channel and covering the events. The same thing will happen in mainstream. Yeah.

Because I believe. In our lifetime, and I can't believe I'm saying this, because maybe 10 years ago, I would have said the opposite. But I believe in our lifetime, we were going to get some proof that there is more to this, that there is maybe not life or aliens, but there is something. And that the scientific community, and this soul leak now makes me even more excited because of the plan that they have in store for us, or at least what they have on paper or a graph to get this. out to people because I believe it in my bones now that there's something more to this. And it's exciting to consider because I don't want to believe that the lights just go out. Let me ask you this, Peter, do you think we're jumping off what Riley says there and then we'll let you guys go with, do you think with this 10 year plan, do you feel that within the next 10 years that the roof,

that the lid's going to be blown off this thing and that we will indeed have proof? A of the UAP What it is and B if it is indeed other life Do you believe that that's going to be revealed in the next 10 years? I can't believe I'm talking to two guys who've cut their teeth on the internet And been doing coverage of news stories for as long as I can remember as long as anyone And you're asking me if 10 years from now I'm sitting here wondering what we're going to know next week

Before you another one of these episodes I'm not kidding you It's everything shifted for me this weekend where I was like eating around the edges super interested, but like I got other things on my mind to like this thing. Maybe I'm overreacting to it, but this thing felt like this starting off point, like this jumping off point like that.

Like they cut the ribbon. Like they smash the wine, the champagne on the ship. It feels like we could be sitting here in a week, three months. Like what's going to happen first? Disclosure or the next Avengers movie. I honestly think it's 50-50 at this point.

Yeah, disclosure more than the Avengers movie now, the way Marvel's going. That's what I'm saying, but who is it's true? Who's against it? Would you bet your house against it? That, no, because because of what we just said also, you kind of, you sneakily threw it in there, but like something like, not even, it's not necessarily like a Logan Paul. Yeah. Um, revealing it.

But you can only plan so much on a chart and not have somebody else in the room. And look, the other thing is, it's a little. it's also 10 years of somebody going, it's technology getting better. And my phone going, oh, yeah, I can zoom in a little. Oh, yeah. That's a UFO. Like that's,

you can only, and that's, I think that's why they have those different codes, right? Because there's only so much that they, they know what the plan is that they want to do, but they can't hold out what the public's going to do. They can't hold out what these things are going to do.

Exactly. We've talked about it, like the shared experience, you know, the ID4, the something's shown up where everybody can see it, where it hits the news. because somebody got that perfect video of it

because the technology is in our pocket. You know, not just for porn anymore, folks. It's there to actually take some images of things moving in the sky, possibly. I mean, that's what's amazing to think is that we could have, you know, Logan Paul has that video in his pocket.

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. But somebody out there could catch the next big thing because we all have it. What's the next Dave Grush, dude? We were a year ago. You couldn't even think about that. And now here we are. Well, when is the next hearing now, right?

Like what is? Right. And I think that, you know, there are other things obviously going on in the world right now that people are paying attention to and rightfully so. And there will be a time when this stuff will be focused on. There will be a time when there will be other stories and other things as the news keeps going on that eventually there will be something. And maybe you're right, Peter, maybe there's something in the release of whatever information is coming out in 2024. that's too big of a story that the mainstream media has to go, well, we got to cover it. Because even though maybe didn't cover it the way that we would have hoped, there was still coverage on the hearing.

There still was. It was still in the news. I mean, this should be covered. I mean, what's going on here and the fact that this was leaked in general, that should be covered. The fact that someone got that and that there are these people out there that, and again, as I always say, even if you think, if you want to take it on the mainstream media side, that all these people are lunatics, all of them. Like, for some reason, all of them are lunatics, all these high-ranking people that at one point were all lunatics,

it's still a story. That, hey, there's a bunch of lunatics at, you know, at university led by this other lunatic who's saying that they have a 10-year plan to release aliens. It's an amazing story. Even if you think it's BS. It's like, how do you not cover that? It's not just a problem.

But it's not a bunch of random weirdos that are doing it. It's like, you know why they won't do it, do? Because they won't do what, like, internet shows will do, which is come on here, like what we're doing, come on here and say, we don't know what this is, but let's talk about it. And I think that's the problem with the government, problem with mainstream media is if you don't have a hold on it, a spin, an angle or a way to, like, you know, judo this into something that you can benefit from or explain away. You don't do that. You don't go up there and go, oh, like, maybe that's the dark secret of our. government. They do that, but they do that stuff in news all the time with politics. So it's like,

it's, it's because they still have to them, they don't feel that the public is, it's kind of, they feel like, you look at like news nation when they put their UFO videos out there. They had nothing to lose. It's, but it's their most high, their highest view of stuff, because when they put the stuff out that the other news outlets are covering, they don't do as well because the other ones cover it all the time and that's where you go for that. because I know I can't go to the other news outlets for UFOs. I go there. So they're covering it there and it makes sense.

So it's in news nation's best interest that these other news outlets don't cover it because a lot of times were saying even when they were over covering it, some people were saying, I didn't feel that way. But a lot of people said they were over covering it because they just were getting like, you know, view hungry. And they wanted to put everything out that they could. So for us, yes, but like to the mainstream media. they're probably going, yeah, well, look at, look, no one's taking news nation seriously.

No one's taking news and serious. And you have like, it's like we, we can't, we can't just do like, we might as well start doing bigfoot coverage or might as well start doing lock desk coverage. I feel like that's still the conversation over there. Eventually, when it starts to go down that route, that's when you know that it's really starting to change. When I'm not saying for legitimacy purposes, I'm just saying as far as awareness for the public goes, that's where because I already.

think that we're in a place. I happen to think there's more stuff that I get out of real news from podcasts and stuff from real people talking about bringing in like Ryan Graves podcast and when you listen to George Nap Talk, I feel like you get real more more information out of people there who are talking to these people behind the scenes than you will on the Fox or CNN or any of those places. No, because they they they cover these things like the UFO and UAP hearings as an afterthought. And it was something that was just like, oh, you know, NASA came out with the reveal that, oh, they're not, no, they're not alien. So everybody just kidding.

You know, and they don't go into what it really is. You know, let's go look at the cat in the tree. Right. That's why last week I made such a big fuss over that Tamer and Hall clip that you pulled. And I just want to highlight that again because that, what really resonated with me is how forcibly normal it felt. Like they were forcing it to feel, hey, in our next segment, you know, and it just trying to like force the it felt like a square peg in a round hole yeah and then at the end of it the

guy had the tagline in there of like and they might be gross to look at i'm like bro are you literally trying to get stay home moms and dads like to just get to come to terms with the fact that there might be one of the hierarchy of beings that we just talked about earlier that might not be pleasing to look at like that's some wild shit to put like in the same time slot price as right used to be on. It's wild, dude. That is a wild moment, dude. I'm keep saying it. The whole thing. Listen, so overall, guys, this was a supersized episode of UAP Tuesday and rightfully so. We had so much. And now I leave it to you. You have to comment. You got to comment. Obviously, once you hit the like button, but you got to comment. Why? Because I read through all this

stuff and I want to see what you're saying. Whether you agree, whether you disagree, whether you're a skeptic, whether you're a believer, whatever it is. Do you think that this is a big breakthrough? Do you think this is as relevant as we do? Or do you think, as Peter said, as some people are going to say, it's just another conference. I need to see something. Who cares? They got to plan. Great. I need to see it. Make sure you let your voices be known. Comment away. I got to see it. I don't care. 2000, 3,000, 4,000 comments. I'll read through all of them. I got to hear it. This is very important to hear at the very least. I want to thank my panel today here, starting with Attack Peter. where can they find you?

Hey, maybe we're online at Attack Peter, but you don't have to call me Attack Peter. Not you either, Riley. You can just call me Peter. I love you, buddy.

Yeah, Attack Peter, anywhere online. All right, Mark Riley, Yodias. Where can I find you? I like calling you Attack Peter. I wish I had like a name like Attack Riley or something. At Riley around on the internet. That's where you can find me. Guys,

thank you so much. As I mentioned, Riley and I will be doing a bonus episode of the UAPs. So if you want to throw in some questions, we can ask it over there. can also join us on the patreon patreon.com slash the big thing show make sure you head out over there today thank you so much apple podcast Spotify anywhere podcasts are found really appreciate it and we're glad that you joined us on the show today we'll see you next week

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