The Kristian Harloff Show - WOW! James Gunn drops photo of SUPERMAN LEGACY cast! Stacked!

Episode Date: February 23, 2024

Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow Superman Legacy is really cooking. The new Man Of Steel film begins shooting in Atlanta and Director and head of DCU studios James Gunn posted a new photo of the cast. It also showed Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthor with the chrome dome. The cast also stars, David Corensweat, Rachel Brosnahan, and others. The other question with a leaked photo by accident, is this going to follow the Kingdom Come Superman comics? Lots of news about the new kryptonian movie. Also, we discussed the Joker part two having a budget of almost $200 million. Excessive? Speaking of DC, Batman the brave and the bold Director Andy Moschetti seems to still be on the film despite reports that he was exiting. we also dive into the Marvel side of it all and the reports that Kang dynasty will no longer be the title of that film. What will happen to Blade? Join Kristian Harloff and Winston A. Marshall as they discuss these topics and more on the show.#Marvel #MCU #DC #DCU #Blade #Superman deadpool3 NUTRAFOL: Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to http://www.Nutrafol.com/men and enter the promo code BIGTHING FUM: Start the year off right with The Good Habit by going to http://www.TryFum.com/BIGTHING and getting the Journey pack today. Füm is giving listeners of the show 10% off when they use my code "BIGTHING" to help make starting The Good Habit that much easier. MAGIC SPOON Go to http://www.magicspoon.com/BIGTHING to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code BIGTHING at checkout to save five dollars off your order! OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-... FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls...

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It's capes and cows. Big thing. And man, this is going to be a heavy, heavy Superman issue. It really is. There's so much Superman news. The cast was tweeted out yesterday. James Gunn puts a whole entire picture of the majority of the cast that we knew, plus Otis. That's right.

There's also some green lantern possibilities. More Superman stuff. Are they going to do the kingdom? come story it looks like it maybe the the the the S emblem certain certainly looks like that that issue so I wonder could be uh switching up fantastic for there's some more stuff there there's a few different stories here um and you want to jump back to dc andy mooshieti apparently still is going to be doing batman and robin or whatever it's called what's the name of that thing called uh it's called uh whatever the hell brayven the bull there you go perfect uh and then

then jump we're going to jump we're going to stay in dc lex luther the thing that stood out to me the most was nicholas holt's bald head it looks great the boys has a premiere date there's tons tons of stuff guys and we'll be diving into that whole report that came in about marvel and how marvel's going to change up their stuff and the fact that they're dropping the kang name out of the kang dynasty movie and all that so there's tons of stuff for us to talk about today so i'm excited that you're going to be here now if you're on patreon you're watching this on thursday night or even in the morning on Friday. That's amazing.

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569's. But anyway, it's me and it's Winston. It's capes and cows. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It's capes and cows. It's myself, Winston A. Marshall. So if you're wondering why Winston is losing it, I showed,

I did a poll yesterday, actually, was yesterday's opening of the big thing, the funniest opening ever. And I just showed you. That might have been of everything, of Collider Live, of Essend, SCN of big thing. It's one of the best openings ever. Holy.

Ever. I'm not even going to tell you. I'm not even going to tell you. Because if you didn't watch it, you missed out. Because I noticed that. Sometimes you get like the, this, for YouTube, for people who pay attention to the analytics like I do, you get like either the thumbs up, the up arrow, or the down arrow, right? And it was, at one point it was the down arrow. And then it was like the, like, through the regular, it was just, it was like the checkmark. So it was like it was on part with everything else, the views.

But I'm like, you guys are absolutely, you missed it. You missed out. You missed out. If you didn't see yesterday's episode, the beginning of it, you missed out. It goes to the point that from now on, people have to watch intros. Because to be honest with you, in a lot of cases, if I'm watching our show, I'll just jump to right after the animation to be like, oh, the show's starting. You know what I'm saying? That just goes to show.

You can't miss intro. You cannot miss the intro. You can't miss the intro, especially with Brett and Roxy. You can't. You can't. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's paramount to like a sitcom cold open. Yeah. Like, to be honest with you.

And the funniest part about it, like, y'all go back and watch yesterday's episode. It's you talking about it. Yeah. Roxy, you just kind of see your head doing like, don't. Don't give it. Don't give it away. Just watch Brett's face. That's the only thing I'm going to say.

Watch Brett's face the whole time. Brett makes the whole bit. Brett makes the whole bit. And his face goes out of a journey, though. I got lucky though because I goofed and I hit the wrong button at first. Yeah. And it landed on him first. first, which actually made it better.

It did, because literally his face was all of it. That was the roller coaster. And well, her reaction to it was pretty awesome to. Yeah, her reaction to it. Absolutely. So if you don't know what we're talking about, it's on you. If you know we're talking about it, then you're in on the joke.

It's not like it's behind a paywall. It's live. It's on the channel. It's a Thursday episode. If you missed it because you didn't want to see it, that's up to you. See, you have an opportunity to click on the button. You didn't do it. But those you did you were rewarded and then some but we did that because yesterday's episode we did two things so we'll cover all the

comic book movie stuff obviously here it's what we do on the show but we talked about June part two and we talked about how it's just a perfect movie it's a perfect movie you didn't take me bitch no plus ones and Roxy said the same thing didn't she go though no she didn't she didn't see it

I was so oh shoot you were just talking about it but she was the only one that saw it yeah it was there were no plus ones for that one and it is and go and see it. I plan on it. It's, it's, and you see, you're lucky because you just saw the first one like a month ago. Right. So it's so fresh in your brain from the big screen to another big screen.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to lose your mind over it. The other thing, oh, no, wait, this is, this is actually a comic book movie story, so it's relevant. And we should actually probably talk about this first. All right, Joker 2. It's one of my highly anticipated movies. A lot of people's highly anticipated movies. The first movie was a massive hit.

billion dollars only cost $60 million to make once in the first movie $60 million well throw that out the window because the second movie Warner Brothers spends big

Joker 2 budget apparently $200 million Lady Gaga's $12 million payday and I guess Joaquin was like 20 so right there was like 32 if something along the lines there

but this is this is the problem with Hollywood man It's a problem with, they don't, they don't learn. I'm not going to read the report because that's the story. The story is this thing cost $200 million, and I know. The two, look, people wanted to get Joaquin back, so you're going to have to spend money to get him back.

So I would look at Deadpool, for example, right? Deadpool 1 cost something like 50 or 60 million, whatever it was, something like, no, less, I think. I think it was like 55. The second movie cost $110. And the first movie did $800 million. or something along the lines. So offer points, offer something else.

That's what I was going to say. Like, I'm sure he probably has some. I wouldn't be surprised if he looks up and he does. He probably has a producer credit. Give him just more back end points. Give him the Tom Hanks deal. Tom Hanks will be like, give me two mil and then give me some back end points.

Like, especially if it was that big of a hit, if it was one of those things, did he get a nomination for that? I can't remember. You won? For Joker. Yeah. Am I smoking crack? Did I forget that?

I mean double check. I know he won for. Let me double check, hold it. Yeah, he won it. You won it in 2020. 20. I guess I just, it slipped my mind because I'm remembering all of his nominations, and I was sure he either won for Walk the Line or the Master,

but he won for Joker. Holy crap. Yeah, because they had that whole, it was the whole thing that, I think it was him and Heath Ledger are the only two people that ever win for the same character or something like that, something along the way? And, like, comic book, like, acting jobs never win either. It's rare.

It's rare. What, these two, and then. have to look into it. I mean, Angela Bassett should have won. Should have won. But you'd probably look into it. But the fact, look, look, I understand why you want them back. And I understand that you're going to have to pay more money. You're not going to make the movie again for $60 million. You just not. But you could have made it for $120. You could have made it for $120. They need, I mean, this is one of those situations where it was already going. So I guess you could just say, okay, well, this was just old regime shit going on. But like it's, it's like you're not

learning your lesson. But again, it just feels like the ball was already moving. Right. before they decided to do it. It was before the strikes. There's all this stuff. They already put everything in the play. And so that is true. That is true. And, you know, hopefully that they, people, it's, this is one of those ones.

Not that it necessarily gets a pass, but I think you're 100% right. I think you're right in the fact that it's like, okay, let's see how it does. It was made before the strikes. Hopefully they don't keep doing this. Be like, look, Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park's another one that they're going to do now with Gareth Edwards. Great choice, I think, for the role. That movie should cost no more than 130,

million tops. Yeah. Tops. Yeah. I still say that they should go, they should scale it down and almost a 20. But that is scaled down now. No, no, no, no.

I know, but I'm saying go, go like get out. Like get out. Obviously it was a long time ago now. But go go A24 budget with it and get to the, get to the thriller, horror element instead of trying to make. Well, I think Jurassic Park is harder to do that. I always talk about like Terminator for that because Jurassic Park is because of what they did with, you know, the PG-13,

putting kids in there, it's become a family brand. So, but I still think you can do it. I think, I still think you can scale it down tremendously. Look at, look at something like the creator. That movie only cost $70 million. It looks like it costs $200 million. Right. And that's probably why they got him.

So hopefully they scale down. But anyway, this movie though, Joker 2. And the other, it's not, we're not in the comic book glory years right now. No. No. No movie glory years. So these movies are, I do think, and I keep saying, I think Deadpool 3 will get the closest to a billion.

I think Deadpool 3 is a better chance at doing a billion than this one does. I agree. I think that the intrigue of the, because it was so mysterious with that movie, and it was so like, oh, the Joker's getting his own movie. And now it's not necessarily old hat, but it's been done. It's also a musical. And so I think you will, there will some people that aren't going to care. There's some people that are going to love the idea.

But I think there's going to be a group of people that are going to go, I don't know. Yeah, right, right, because they had such a good thing with the King of Comedy, Martin Scraesezzi vibe. Right. It was what they're doing now with this one. Yeah, I don't know. I look, it's still on my list.

Yeah. I still, and I'm, because you said that, too, it's, I am, I don't want to use the word forgiving because they shouldn't have spent this kind of money in the first place. But I am, I do believe that it was made before all these different changes with the strikes and all that stuff, too. They just, the budgets need to change because we're not in a billion. Everybody can hit a billion dollar movie. And it's like, I was talking about this.

You throw in darts at that billion dollars and stop it. You need to go, you need to go after either known IPs that will kill or you need to go after fresh IPs. And in both cases, scale down. So like I think of some of the more successful movies of last year as far as it goes. and you don't include the Guardians 3 type situation, though. I guess if you're talking about IP, you know that kills. That's fine. You're closing out that trilogy, that makes sense, right?

Right, right. But then, like, I think about the blackening. I think about Five Night at Freddy's. Those are situations where you spent five mil and you turned out 15. You spent 20 mil and you turned out 80. Yeah, and it's harder with the really, I'm with you, but it's harder because you have these big mass of IPs, and with that comes even major, more marketing, right?

Absolutely. I'm with you. I think that the budgets, and I've been saying this on the show for a while, the budgets need to be scaled. But this is one of those ones and a scale of $100 million. $100 million is not the $100 million dollars it was back in 2002. No. It's essentially what $40 or $50 million was in 2002. Right.

So if you do that and you can make that kind of movie, this movie should have been no more than $80 million to $100 million. Maybe $120 if you're going to double it because you're getting, they're taking, they're taking. they're taking their shot because they want to get the Lady Gaga audience. That's what they're doing. Absolutely. I mean, I think the big thing that people, pun intended, that people just have to remember is,

is this idea that people aren't fully going to the movies just for spectacle. Like, yes, that you want that from time to time. But, like, again, the movies that people are like, oh, my God. Like, I know that Godzilla minus one had spectacle. I still haven't seen yet. I need to. But to my knowledge, it also was not, like, a massive budget.

It was the story was so gripping and the acting was so gripping. How much of the movie cost? If I had to guess, I know that they're up for special effects award, I had to guess I'm going to say maybe 100. 15 million. That's my point.

That's exactly my point. I know it didn't make money, but it's... It did. For $15 million? For $15 million it did. However, what people will push back on is that the labor laws and other things in Japan

are significantly different. Sure. But the movie looks like it's $300 million. And that's my point. And it's exactly right. It's a great point because the other thing is even if it was made in America with the it, it would have cost 80. It wasn't like creator. Right.

Yeah. So that's what you could do. And didn't have any major stars. There's certain movies like Jurassic Park, Godzilla, that you don't need to spend the big money on the talent because it's the IP. People are going to go see Jurassic Park because of dinosaurs. Right. They're going to see. The Joker, you're going to see because of Joaquin Phoenix.

I get getting Lady Gaga. I get it. I understand it. I think it's a good choice for Harley Quinn. But man, that's a lot of money. $200,000. That's a lot of money. First one made a billion.

Which, cool. Awesome. And so did Mr. Marvel. I mean, Captain Marvel. And again, I get those are all different. I get that the Joker arguably is a bigger character than both Aquaman and Captain Marvel put together. So there's lots that you could say about that.

But at the same time, you're flirting with a dangerous game here because how many times have IPs or at least franchises. like brands done this and it backfire. Like we watched it happen over and over and over again last year. All three of those movies hit at a very different time of what comic book movies where they were in the forefront, every one of them. Honestly, what scares me, but I hope things change,

it feels like a lot of these people that are greenlighting these budgets are not reading the room. Right. You need to, like, we both do stand up. If you're in a room and you're like, yeah, I don't know if all my N-word jokes are going to fly in this white biker bar, then I got to adjust and dudes

pull something else out. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's the same thing. I didn't, I didn't do those jokes at the bike bar. I did not do them. I did not do them. I don't believe you.

No, I didn't do them. On black history, Bob! I didn't do them. Anyway, so look, it's, I think everybody's gonna be on the same page. People were tweeting me

because they know that I've been going on this rant about how the overspending for budgets is just, and it's not just, I'm almost like I want to shake each studio metaphorically by the ears and be like, what are you doing? You have this IP. What are you doing? You can make hand over fist if you spent so much little money and made 300 million on it. And I always use the Indiana Jones. If you made Indiana Jones for $60 million, that movie made $360 million, it's a profit.

Right. But it didn't. Black Adam. movie cost way too much money, made 400 or whatever it made, barely broke, even lost money. It's like, what are you doing? What are you doing? And again, about reading the room, it doesn't mean that stars aren't important. I feel like you need to have somebody to kind of anchor it in. But especially if you're doing these smaller things, that means that you don't have to pay megastar money. Right.

And so it's not that much of a loss if it doesn't work out in that regard. But then also, yes, I get, it's the rock. But like, Black Adam, for us comic book nerds find that great. But for people that don't, they'd be like, The Rock's doing a superhero movie, who is the Black Adam? Right. They didn't know because of the rock. He was the reason why that movie made any money,

but you know who's also to blame, though, besides the studios here. The agents. Yeah. The agents are to blame for it because the agents go, well, wait a minute. This is a big bunch of movie, guys. My client's not going to do this for, you know, for $4 million.

They're going to do a great 10. Hold on. I can't hate somebody for trying to secure the bag. I know, but it doesn't take away, it doesn't take away that portion of the blame. So that's the point at which I need the studio. then like it's weird to be rooting against you know as the someone that acts to be rooting against getting less money but then again get creative we just talked about if you

want Joaquin to come back and he's like nothing for nothing less than 20 fine you need to bring the budget down just in case things don't go well and it's like look man you earn an Oscar from this we know that you understand the character you love playing the character we'll give you 10 but then we're going to give you six back end points instead of like our standard two we give right and then all of a sudden if you do hit two billy well guess what He's more than happy. His generations are set. He's more than happy.

And you have mitigated your risk. It's essentially for anybody that plays craps. I don't know if you're a big Vegas person or anything like that. It's taking your odds. I know. Greed runs in all different streets. Anyway, so what do you guys think? Do you think that $200 million because of how successful the first one?

Do you disagree? And you think, oh, look, 200 million, they've earned it. Go ahead. See what you can do with $200 million. Let's see you can get that Billy. I don't know. See what you guys think. Comment on each topic.

We really want to know. I want to get your thoughts. All right. The big story. Yesterday, James Gunn said, guess what, guys, I'm going to do what I do. I'm going to post. And this time he posted not yelling at somebody on the internet about how they were wrong about a scoop.

No. He said, look at this with Superman Legacy. With the cast reporting to Atlanta for a table read before shooting begins, James Gunn shared a key Lex Luther detail and a... a behind-the-scenes photo confirming Lex Luthor will indeed be bald. The cast of Superman Legacy recently assembled for a table read in Atlanta, and it's already been confirmed that the cameras are going to start rolling on the movies next month. Does that mean we'll get set photos?

We'd be shocked if something doesn't eventually show up online, and if we're lucky, we may even get to see some of the reboots many heroes suited up, which will arguably offer our best idea yet of what DC Studios is going for with the new DCU. Now, one lingering question has been answered by James Gunn himself when a fan asked the filmmaker, and DC Studios co-CEO on threads, whether Lex Luthor actor Nichols Holt is bald yet, and the filmmaker responded, he is indeed. And that should come as a relief

after Batman v. Superman's portrayal of Luther, where he's played by Jesse Eisenberg. And a behind-the-scenes photo confirms Gunn wasn't lying. Holt was photographed alongside several legacy cast members, not to mention Gunn and fellow DC Studios boss Peter Saffron. When the Lex Luthor actor was spotted arriving in Atlanta a few days, he had hair. so the fact that he shaved surely means shooting is set to begin imminently.

It looks great, by the way. It looks great as Lex Luthor, really great. Look at that cast. Why is Nathan Phillyen front and center, though? Because Nathan Phelian, you understand that Nathan Phelian is like that kind of cool uncle now. Like, like that's the, he's the older uncle vibe, never had the kids. I know. It looks like he took the one taking a picture or the one, like, you know, being there.

But it's like, it could be planned out. And I'll tell you what, if I didn't know that Nicholas Holt was. was Superman, I think that this cat in the back from Barry is, is, that's the Barry guy, right? That's a, oh, my God. Brainiac, right? Yeah, is he playing Brainiac? I thought so. Maybe not.

Because that, oh, my goodness. But either way. So, and so you look at this cast and you look at all of them. And I guess maybe it's kind of a strategy because Corne sweats in the back and he's massive now, so they don't want him. But isn't this the same dude that was a black Adam? No. No, no, no, you're confusing it.

That's the dude that played Darwin in the first class. He was an X-man. Right, right, right, right, right. You're thinking of Alder's Hodge. That's exactly right. No, no, no, no. Yeah, he was great in Expert first class. Who's this girl with the sunglasses?

Who's that? I don't know that. I don't remember. I don't know that. Rachel Cornswet, I mean, it's not the best. Rachel Cornswet, you already getting them married off? Dude, I'm so, I'm so just beaten down by jury duty. You have no idea.

Rachel Cornswet. Lois Lane. I'm going to call her Lois Lane. Hey, man, who knows? I don't know if either of them are married, but maybe love spawns on the On the set. Maybe. Braznan.

But then Jimmy Olsen in the back to it. It's great. It gets me excited for sure. But it does. They're like, well, he's feeling like stealing the spotlight in the frontage, but just because he probably took the picture. Well, it just took it,

but also he's playing Guy Gardner. I couldn't have think of a more perfect person to be like, I'm going to take the damn photo. But Lex Luth, I mean, just to look at that again, man. Like, he looks great. He looks great. And I'm so glad this is the one thing. We were wrong about Supergirl,

but we were right about this cast. We predicted that... Where is she, by the way? Who? Millie. Oh, she's not in this movie. If she is, it's going to be like at a post-credit. Oh, I thought she was in the...

Who's the black dude? The kind of fat uncle-looking black dude. That's Otis. He's playing Otis? Who is that guy? So I'll tell you, hold on. There's another story. Okay.

Superman legacy director James Gunn confirms that Guardians of the Galaxy actor Terrence Rosemore will play Otis. James Gunn shared a photo of the main cast of Superman Legacy earlier today, and the director has now confirmed that frequent collaborator, Terrence Rosemore, will play Lex Luthor's sidekick

Otis. Superman Legacy director James Gunn revealed his upcoming DCU reboot will introduce a new take on Lex Luthor's bungling sidekick. Is Otis was Otis created for the Donner movies? I thought so. I had never heard of him. Both him and Ms. Test Mocker were both.

Right, that's what I thought. Maybe he's just paying homage to it. Good for James Con. Earlier today, the filmmaker shared a photo of the entire main cast of the movie shortly after completing their first table read and now has come to light that Terrence Rosem who appeared in all three Guardians movies will play a new take on Otis. The dim-witted henchman was played by the late Ned Beattie in Superman, in Superman Richard Donner's version and reprised the role for Superman 2. A new incarnation of the character was later introduced in the pages of Smallville Season 11 comic series. There you go. How this latest take on

Otis will factor in legacy story remains to be seen. It's safe to assume that he'll be affiliated with Nicholas Holtz Lex Luthor. Filming is scheduled to begin early next month in Atlanta. So there's a chance we will get to see some of these actors in costume, although we'd say Gunn will ensure security is extra tight on the set.

Dude, I love this. And I know people love to jump down Gunn's throat about him always using the same people. Here's the thing. I just looked at this guy's MDB. He's got like 89 different credits, right? But the thing is, he's always played these kind of little bit roles here and there.

He's never really gotten the opportunity to, like, be a bigger, like, I'm not, Otis isn't going to be, like, huge, but this is probably the biggest role he's ever played. And that's incredible that Gunn is taking this dude and giving him this opportunity to, like, rip. That's awesome.

I like what he does. I mean, I think that the dangerous thing, I actually think his wife is very talented, but it's a dangerous thing to keep putting her in movies. She was a, she was the agent in a peacemaker, right? She was an agent in peacemaker, yeah, she was. The main one. Yeah.

So it's dangerous and she was also in, what was it? In Black Adam, I think she shows up at the end, Black Adam. Well, yeah, because they did the post credit. So that was connecting it to Peace Theater. It was. It was, like, the thing is with her. No, it was Shazam, wasn't it? Because Black Adam was Superman.

So I think it was the end of Shazam of Fury of the Gods, where they go to like try and, did I get that backwards? No, I think it was Black Adam. Was it? Were there two post credits? No, it wasn't the post credit. It was the very end of the movie. when they capture them. So it wasn't a postgrader, it's just the end of the movie.

But either way, the dangerous part of it is that it doesn't matter of talent as she is. It's his wife. So now every time she's going to be in it in a movie, they're going to go, of course you put your wife in it. So I feel more that I understand that he's got to probably scale back on that. And I think she's talented in the same way that he puts his brother and everything. Sure. Like, I'm not on the Sean Gun Train. I'm not on the Sean Gun Train.

Like everybody loves him. I think he's okay. I think he's fine. But what I will say, though, is the other stuff, like you just mentioned. Putting people in that he's worked with before that he's comfortable with, I got no issue with it. I don't either. But I'll take it a step further. I mean, obviously people love and hate if we do sports analogies, but I'm going to take one of the best examples of keeping your people with you that I've ever seen in LeBron James.

So, like, when he was a kid and they're all playing like a high school basketball together, but they know, oh, you're special. Like, you're actually going to go to the league and you might be the guy. Yeah. He took all his homeboys, and once he started getting that money, he was like, sending you to business school, you're going to be this, you're going to do that. And then they built an empire together. So, like, sure, LeBron is the face of it, and LeBron makes the most. But, like, all of his boys have completely just dominated in whatever field that they're in. And because of the, so I have no problem with people doing this.

The only time that I would have an issue, if every single time he had a leading lady, his wife always got it. Right, right. Then we got an issue. But that's not what happened. She just always has a role. It shows a little role. Yeah, but it's, but like my, it's just the thing is the other actors, whether it's Michael Rooker, any of these other people that he works with, they show up at other people's stuff.

Sure. Almost the last time he saw Sean Gunn in anything that wasn't a James Gunn thing. I'm not saying he wasn't it, but the same thing. And I'm not saying that he's not talented. I just think that they should stretch off and do something. I don't need to just be in James Gun movies. I don't just need to be. I don't follow his filmography enough to know.

I could look it up. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. But it doesn't matter. It's neither hearing of the problem. The thing is I don't have an issue that James Gunn uses people that he's comfortable with because he knows, because James Gunn is brilliant at casting. He's brilliant at casting. It's one of his major strengths.

He's brilliant at casting. And I think this cast is fantastic. I think it's fantastic. I really like what they're doing so far. And it goes to, this is the next part of the story. Continue on with the Superman stuff. People are very excited about this. Superman Legacy Table Read may have revealed a kingdom come inspired S for David Cornsoitz man of steel.

The first table read for Superman Legacy got underway today in Atlanta and screenshots of the now deleted social media posts might have revealed what James Gunn is thinking in regards to the House of El Crest. On the very first day of table reads for Superman Legacy, details for the highly anticipated Superman reboot are already leaking out. Two of the cast members, Hawkearl actress Isabella Merced, who was going to watch the stink of Madame Webb off of her because she was only, and I said it. She was the only one that I thought was really good in that movie. and Ms. Testmacher actress Sarah Simpio posted their name cards to Instagram to share their excitement, but they might have inadvertently revealed the design for the House of El Crest in the process. The design for the Crest seems to definitely take inspiration from the 1996 Kingdom Come DC Comics miniseries

from Mark Wade and Alex Ross. Fans are now wondering if James Gunn is going to fully commit to the kingdom come motif and go with a red and black emblem as opposed to the traditional red and yellow. With filming set to start this spring, fans likely won't have to wait long before getting their first glimpse of David Cornsworth's Superman suit. Filming is rumored but unconfirmed to begin in March so the reveal could come any day. Back in December, gun disclosed via threads, he loves threads, that the costume was mostly done, but we're going back and forth on some elements. He also previously teased that the suit would be a mixture of classic and modern designs while also being something totally new and different. It was on stories and I think it's gone now.

But, um, and that's, yeah, it's pretty similar. Like normally you'd be fine. I bet you somebody called, get touched off the internet right now. That's exactly what happened. And look, this happened, something as small as the Schmodown, right? Mm-hmm. We would pick out certain little things we wanted to tease for matches and little things. And people would tweet things out from the set.

And I'm like, no, take it down. Or that's going to give away the thing from the story. And it happened all the time. And that was just from Schmode. down. So you knew something like this was going to happen. Did both of the actresses posted and both them had that? They both pulled it. And they both had that symbol. Because what would have been interesting is if they had, and not that that was the aim in the first place, is if everybody had a different like hell symbol. So if one was the Kingdomcom, one was the OG, one was like

a motel. Like, you know what I mean? That would have been interesting. So I remember I did read the Kingdom Come story. I remember when I was working at Warner Brothers because that's all anybody would talk about was that comic. People love that comic and that story. And I remember reading it and being blown away by it and loving it, but Superman is like older in that one, isn't he? Yeah. So they're probably, I don't, does he have to be older? For that storyline, I think it makes more sense to, but I don't, I don't think that they're going to go be for beat, kingdom come. I don't think that that would necessarily make sense. But I did see somebody tweet about this that I thought was interesting, like with that idea of like the older Superman

coming back and kind of like bring an order and all that. I think what would be really cool, based of what this tweet said is, is if the world already kind of exists, metas are out here, vigilantes are out here, all that kind of stuff, and it feels like it's kind of getting out of control. And so you had the Justice Society, but then people have kind of just gone off

to do whatever the hell they want, that again, with the term legacy being in the title, that Superman kind of comes in to be a hero in his own, and he starts to set a new standard. So people are kind of, and Luthor might even be at the center of that being like, look at these metas, doing whatever they want, like, blah, blah, well,

he's obviously being a bad guy. But then all of a sudden here comes Superman, and now he is that icon that's like coming in. So you're grabbing a small element out of Kingdom Come, but you're not actually doing the King of Come home story. But you're kind of eventually leading to where you could potentially do it, right? And look, the Superman stuff just keeps going on. Superman Legacy will film on location in Cincinnati sparking the Hall of Justice rumors. reminds me of Marisol McKee and Adam Collins where they had a name before they were deception.

They wanted to be the howls of justice. Did they really? The howls of justice. Said no, thank you. All right. Mark Julian over at comic book movie as production on Superman Legacy ramps up. More and more details are beginning to emerge

about the directed film by James Gunn. Internet sleuths were recently able to determine that Legacy will be filming in Cleveland and Cincinnati through a report on the tax credits that the film received in the state of Ohio, man. People really do their investigation, huh? Jesus, people are bored. It's right, good God.

Filming under the working title of Genesis, Legacy will reportedly receive a $11 million tax write-off. It's the filming in Cincinnati that has the fans buzzing as that's the location of the Union Terminal train station. The facade of the building provided cartoonist, Al Gamora and Joe Barbera with inspiration for the design of the Hall of Justice which was introduced in the 70s Super Friends cartoon. The Hall of Justice is one of two popular base of operations used by the Justice League

with the other being the orbiting satellite known as the Watchtower. Thanks to the confirmation of on-location filming in Cincinnati, DCU fans are convinced that Superman Legacy will be used. using the union terminal building as a base for the Hall of Justice, which will then be modified by VFX artist in post-production. Okay, so this is the image itself, and I think this is all factual. I think this is all real. I think this is all probably means it's going to happen, and the reason why is just, I think it's, I think it's a credit to James Gunn. It just shows, this is the guy you want running this thing. He's a fan.

He wants to do, he wants to, he's like, look, you know what we should do? We should actually film it in, not only do we get it right off, it's where these guys wanted to put this thing, is where they got the inspiration from. How cool would that be if we did that? You can see him having those conversations. I can also see that you get the Hall of Justice and the Watchtower in the sense that the Watchtower is something that gets revealed at the end. I think we don't get a Justice League until the end of the movie.

And that doesn't even mean that we're going to jump into a Justice League movie, but I don't think it gets formed until this is all said and done. I genuinely think that you're having a JSA, the Justice Society there, and they're working out of the Hall of Justice. You know what I'm saying? And so I think that that also gives that further dynamic. If that's what they set up as, like, we're these heroes, we live by a creed. But now all of a sudden you got this random dude that's like,

I'm going to go out here and be a superhero. And he's using his powers recklessly and all that kind of stuff. The Hall of Justice almost becomes a sham at this point because you lived up to this code. And now nobody's doing that anymore. Yeah. I mean, I do. And it does make me nervous still. that I want to see, you got to establish a new Superman.

You got to establish him because the problem that you're going to have, I do think Cornswett's going to hit it. I don't know his work well enough, but I think he's going to hit it again, more so because of the confidence I have in James Gunn's casting, right? But you've got to establish this guy to the audience, because what if he doesn't hit? And then you're like, well, this is our Superman that's going to run the Justice League,

and it's like, cares. Because if this movie, dude, if this movie doesn't work. Oh, we've talked about this. I do think it will, but it's the end of the DCU already. You can't come back from a bomb. You just can't. A modest hit you can come back from, and you can say, okay, well, it made money. A break-even, you could probably still do it.

Anything less than that? No, and I didn't think break-even would probably be, like, a big problem. But I don't think that's going to happen. I feel like there's some juice behind this movie already. Not with this cast. Not with this director. Not with this director and the fact that he and writer and like when has he truly missed for all the people that love the Suicide Squad missed. I mean it's not his first quality. Not as far as far as first quality. I only missed because it was a pandemic. I wouldn't even I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't make that argument that he that he really missed on that movie like did you not like the was my favorite comic movie the year. I loved it. I don't think that he actually missed as far as the content of the film but like nobody was in theaters. So it was just like it's on HBO Max. Do what you do. We know the studios have screwed that up.

So that's not, I don't, I don't put that on him. I have too much faith that this man does his homework, that he knows what fits properly, that he actually cares. The main problem that I find with a lot of the people that are, it doesn't feel like they really care. So like I haven't even seen Madam Webb yet, but based off of what everybody's saying,

it just feels like, we're just going to throw a bunch of spaghetti at the wall and see what happens. Right. So the Hall of Justice looks like it's going to happen. And I agree with what Winston was saying there. This is a guy that knows this property and also knows, by the way. And yes, he's aware that if it doesn't do well, that it's going to be a problem.

But he also knows you lead with Superman for a reason. And that's what he seems to be doing. So there's so much news here, guys. You got Lex Luther. You got Otis. I mean, even the fact that Nathan Phileans in there already is Green Lantern. You got the halls of justice. Halls of Justice.

You got all this stuff. What stands out to you guys the most? What are you excited about? Were you excited about this movie? Are you still excited for this movie? Were you not excited for this movie? And now are you or you're just like, nah, I still don't care. Comment.

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Let's move on. Let's stay. You want to stay with DC? Let's stay with DC. Andy Muscietti is reportedly still attached to direct the DCUs Brave and the Bold Batman movie. I made the rumors that Warner Brothers Discovery had removed it and Flash director Annie Mushetti from the Brave and the Bold

comes a report that reaffirms that he's still attached. Did Warner Brothers put Annie Muscietti in a no-win situation by announcing the reboot of the DCU ahead of the release of The Flash? Or would the movie have flopped even without the rise of the DCU? With the different actor other than the inigmatic Ezra Miller as the Scarlett Speedster and more time to work on the VFX, would the Flash have fared better with film critics and DC Comics fans? We'll never know.

But Mushietti has a chance to redeem himself in a bit. with the superhero fandom as he is set to helm the DCU's first Batman film, The Brave and the Bold, which will feature the big screen debut of Damien Wayne. Recent reports surfaced that Mushetti had been fired for the adaptation, but former Hollywood trade reporter turned online. Jeff Snyder is reporting that, according to his sources, Mushetti is still attached. Anyway, also, just as soon as the rumor of Muscietti's firing surface,

images of his parking spot on the Warner Brothers lot, and he had the surface complete with the Batmobile-themed golf cart to boot. So it looks like Muscietti is not going anywhere And Yeah, I don't know I don't think that that one's true I think they're going to keep

Yeah Winston I don't know man I think that I don't think that these Nothing is Rokka I just think that maybe his source was off on this one Because I don't think he's going anywhere But I do think that it was A mistake to announce him

I always think it's a mistake to announce a director Star Wars is the king of this to announce a director before their current movie comes out. I think it is a mistake. I don't care if you love it. I don't care if you went and you saw it because it puts you in a position that if the movie doesn't do well, people are like, what do you do?

What do you? Look, James Gunn apparently loves the Flash, right? You and I like the Flash more the most. The beginning and the end, not the best. CGI, not great, but I didn't like, I really like Andy Mushieri. I hated his answers for certain things with the Flash. Hated it. Oh, we meant to do that, the CGI.

Ugh. And that's a bad choice then. Bad choice, because that CGI looked garbage. Yeah, my, my, my two beefs with the Flash, which brought it down a little bit for me. One, I thought the baby gag was funny. I didn't hate that. I hated the CGI. The CGI was so bad.

It looked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looked terrible. And it also ages poorly. The first time I saw it was clever, and then it just starts getting really stupid. Annoying. Yeah. Which is fine.

I mean, knowing that Barry is always, like, they're, playing him for kind of more the comedy as far as that goes, whatever. It is what it is. My beef then with the speed force ending is both the CGI and this weird kind of homage to all the other worlds collapsing thing, whatever. But I don't agree with your big bad, your main villain, being showing up near the end of Act 3 for five minutes. That's the stupidest thing in my mind unless you are going to show me something where

you genuinely see where he's affecting the. the story throughout. That was a massive problem for me. This is what they need to do. I think that, you know, you basically, if they can do, it part one was really good. It part two, not so much, but I don't really blame him for that because the second half of that book is just not as good as the first half. Sure. And I remember the miniseries was the same exact thing. So I liked a lot when he, what he did well in The Flash was the emotional stuff. And I hope that they make a more, and they should take a page out of Matt Reeves, I wish they would have somehow figured out a way to make Patinson.

Here's the thing. I would not buy, because Pattinson is how old? I think we're the same age. I think he's like around 36, 37. Okay. And if that's the case, I'm not buying Patinson as Batman rolling around with 37. He's 37. So I would not, I'm not buying him having a 13-year-old son.

He's out here fighting crime with and whatnot. Like, I, it's only been 24 years old. Sure. When you had the other kid. Sure. But I guess the other problem is they already introduced him as him being this young. So like, you know what I'm saying? Like that's, that's the issue is that it's Batman year two, I believe, is what is what.

Yeah, no, I know. I know. They can't, they definitely are not going to use them. I'm just saying it would have been interesting if they would have done that. And the other thing. I don't know if you talk. I love that cast. Jensen Ekels with Damien.

Oh my God. That's my favorite. That's my favorite. That's my favorite so far. Have him, have him go Soldier Boy a couple times on Damien. when Damien thinks that he's going to get one up on him and being like, if you don't shut your little ass up. But shows that he's got that darkness

from the Soldier Boy portion of it. So anyway, what do you think about Mushieri's still doing it? Do you like it? Do you not like it? What are your thoughts? And speaking to, we just brought up Soldier Boy. Let's talk about the boys. The boys. Season 4 premiere date with the new poster.

Here it is. Prime Video has announced the official premiere date for the fourth season of the boys. And we now have a poster featuring the lethal combination of Homelander and Victoria Newman. Turie Newman was really kind of fierce on Gen V. Mm-hmm.

And in this last season, The Boys, too? Yeah, yeah. Break out the effin confetti. You've all been dying to find out when the boys will be back on our screens, and Prime Video has announced the ultra-violent comic book adaptation will return for its fourth season on June 13th. The first three episodes will be available from the 13th with new installments dropping weekly through, the season finale on July 18. The streamer has also

released a new poster featuring an alliance between the two characters that is certain to cause major headaches or head explosions for Billy Butcher and his team. Homelander and the potentially even more ruthless, Victoria Newman. Though the trailer did give us an idea of what to expect,

specific season four plot details are under wraps. We do know that the premiere will pick up immediately after the events of the GenV finale with Homelander, joining vice presidential candidate, Victoria Newman, and her running May presidential candidate, Robert Singer, on their campaign. Billy Butcher, meanwhile, doesn't have long to live

after overdosing on Temp V in the season three finale. Thankfully, he knows about a certain soup virus that was created in Gen V's Woods. For Butcher, by the time they were making the finale, we were pretty deep into breaking season four. We knew that we wanted that virus to be pretty part of season four, and we knew that we wanted Butcher to be aware of it. It seems crazy that he wouldn't be aware of it.

It became kind of trick. because how do we show that he knows about it without with it being just dialogue? The idea came up that it probably shouldn't even happen in the boys and it should happen in GenVee. It's funny because someone tweeted out and I saw it and it was just, it wasn't even directed at me. I just saw it. And someone was like, do I have to watch GenVie in order to watch season four? And I said, no, but you should because it was awesome.

GenVee was awesome. Genev was incredible. Didn't do that well. Did it not? No, I thought it did. And then someone told me that it didn't do well. I was like, that's a bummer. I really enjoyed that show along.

I think it's because Amazon is still a little bit hit or miss. They definitely have stuff that does well. Like the boys obviously does well. Invincible does pretty well. Yeah. You know, a Reacher I've heard has done pretty, it's been doing pretty well. But Amazon. Mr. Mrs. Smith did it too?

Did it? Yeah. That's good. But they, you know, even though they put out quality stuff, it's very similar sometimes to Apple TV, where it's like they just don't have the cloud where people are rushing to go. do that. Like I think a lot of times, even though they have a lot of that stuff, people don't immediately think of like Amazon when they think about content. They think about Netflix. They think about HBO. They think about, you know what I'm saying? So like I think as they continue

to develop, stuff like that that is still quality will start to get more attention. I hope so, especially as the boys, you know, keeps going on. And maybe because this does link to GenVee, the more people will go, okay, I guess I'll tune into it. Because I felt the hesitation in that person's tweet. And I'm like, it shouldn't be there because it was there for me also. Sure. Because I saw, I didn't love those trailers.

When I saw those trailers, I was like, the trailers are fine. It looks like they're just trying to go for those shock moments. Was it, you were coy that said that it reminded you too much, it gave you too much, like,

CW feel for a second? Might have been me. And then, yeah, because, but it was, but I loved it. I loved it. That's so good. I thought it was great.

I thought it was great. I really enjoyed it, and I looked forward to, like, watching it every week. So are you guys excited about the boys next season? What do you say? And what do you think about,

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for the Deadpool trailer, which did really well. X-Men 97's got some buzz behind it. They've got reshoots on Agatha Darkhold Diaries, and the other thing is they also have Eric Pearson doing to polish to the Fantastic Four. They have the bear showrunner

working on the script for Thunderbol, so they're making some moves, right? And they don't really know what they're doing with Kang yet. Are they going to keep working with Kang? But we do know that Avengers the Kang Dynasty, they're not calling it that anymore. They're already trying to change it. And apparently, they were working,

whether you believe this or not, they were after Ant Man and the Wasp, Ant Man in the Wasp Quantumania, they already started to retool because they didn't like the reception or the way that Kang played. So whether you believe that or not, that's the report. And so this is more stuff about Blade and the Fantastic Four.

Rumored details revealed more about the Marvel's plans for the upcoming reboots. So Blade has now gone through several different creative teams, release dates leading to a widespread belief that the movie must be in troubles. Josh Wilding, a comic book movie. It has, after all, been nearly half a decade since it was announced. That's crazy. It's been... Wow, five years ago, yeah.

You know what's funny? That's good writing. Because you say five years. That's long, but you don't, it doesn't click. Half a decade sounds like it was forever. It is. I mean, five years ago, that's so, that's long. I mean, five years ago is a long, but half a decade sounds so much worse.

I know. You're not wrong, but it does. But it still, it is. So it has, after all, been nearly half a decade since it was announced, though the pandemic can be blamed for at least some of those delays. Marvel Studios does appear to be struggling to crack the Daywalkers big screen return, though we now have a positive update from Daniel Rickman. He disputes claims that Mahershal Ali is,

considering leaving Blade and confirms that Michael Green, the writer for Blade Runner 2049, is rewriting the script. Mahershal Ali is reportedly happy with the changes being made and it looks like filmmaker Jan Demange will be the one who gets the movie to the finish line. The leaker also mentions that Midnight Suns remains in the work at Marvel Studios with the current idea being that the team will be made up some of the characters who haven't assembled alongside the Avengers. As a result, Dr. Strange, unlikely to appear.

As for the Fantastic Four, Richmond backs up, Jeff Snyder's claim that Javier Bardem has the current offer for Galactus and notes that Marvel Studios hopes to cast at least two more villains. When it comes to casting the robotic Herbie, they're looking for a comedian, male or female, to take on the role, and that has prompted this ex post from Ricky Jervais. He just says, can I swear? Earlier this month, Marvel Studios announced that Pedro Pascall, Vanessa Kirby, Joseph Quirley, Joseph Quirley. Quinn, Evan Moss Brock, will lead the Fantastic Four. Fantastic Four was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. They debuted in 61. The team is comprised of Reed Richards, Sue Storm, Johnny Storm, Ben Grimm.

They gained superpowers during a space mission, becoming Marvel's first family of superheroes. Jackman has worked with both Avatar the Ray of Water co-writer, Josh Friedman and WandaVision's Camp Squares on the latest draft of Fantastic Four. It's now scheduled to be July 25th, 2025. As for Blade, still scheduled for next November. is expected to shift into 2026. It could come later, of course,

but Marvel Studios needs to pull the trigger on this movie before the moment passes. What do you think about all this? I think that they're very correct in that last sentence. If they're not careful with Blade, you're going to end up with a new mutant situation. And it's ironic. New Mutants, they shot, and this was sitting on the shelf

for like four years. But I think it became one of those situations that even if the movie had been good, we had been told over and over and over and over again about, oh, it's coming, it's not coming. Oh, it's coming. It's not coming. By the time it was actually, I was like, I don't care.

Right. You don't want to have that happen, and especially not with Mahershala. Again, when you bring in Oscar winners like that and Oscar winners of that caliber, you want to make sure you keep them happy and you keep them around. But, you know, as far as all of this stuff goes, as far as all this news and whatnot, I don't think it's bad that they're taking a second to breathe and retool. I don't think it's a bad thing that they are making sure that they, like, get it right because it, Again, you are so lost in the woods right now. You need to find the trail and get back. It's true.

And look, the other thing is, we said this before, when showing how half a decade or five years ago is still a long time, Mahershal Ali was 44 years old when they announced that movie. He's 50 years old. Yeah. He's like, yeah. I was just going to say, the only thing that we didn't talk about, did you see Ruffalo's quote?

Yeah, the quote. Well, there was a couple. There was a few. He was one. He was like, I thought streaming was exciting, but I do think there were some missteps. And two, he said, I don't think there'll ever be a Hulk solo film. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was told by Fikey,

Faggy told him they weren't doing it. And it's probably, and what he's, the main thing he harped on, which makes sense, is that it's just too expensive. Because that, like, you know, even them doing the Professor Hulk thing, which is a little less CGI. It's a full CGI movie, yeah.

It was just too much. Yeah, and how much does she all cost? Didn't they supposedly, other than the fact that, like, you could make the arguments about how it did view, count-wise that it blew its whole budget, didn't it? Wasn't that the story that came out? Well, that's what Tatana Mizlani said,

that they spent so much money on that show. And it's like that, that's, that was during that streaming. It was like that, yeah, people didn't know what they were doing on streaming. They spent everything on it. They didn't know really how to equate what the success was with numbers and they spent so much money on those shows. But this whole report, look, the fact that Marvel's trying to piece things together, I agree that they have to get the Mahershaw Lee of it all figure it out quick.

And most of me what I just said, he's 50 years old. You got to get this movie done. I mean, he's going to be 52 years old. And I was just looking at Mark Wahlberg was talking about how he's, it's, you're 52. And the rock and everybody, they were in that age two. It's not easy. I mean, dude, I got, I hurt my back parallel parking. And I'm not in the shape that these guys are in, obviously.

But like, it's like, your body is doing some stuff when you're older. And that's the whole thing. I'm not like, obviously you have the best teams in the world, the best nutritious in the world. You're getting paid a lot of money to do it. Age is age. But like even to that point, like I don't have those kind of resources, but at like 36, like post-leg break. Like obviously I'm getting back into it, but like it takes so much more effort. Right.

It just takes more effort. And like you said, every half a decade you add, it takes that much more effort. And he's in shape. And he's, I mean, and he looks like he's 40 years old. But like the thing, but, you know. Mother Nature is Mother Nature. Well, so for example, I'm sure. Exactly.

I'm sure he'll have some sort of stuntman and stuff like that, but if he's doing any sort of fight moves on camera and like you said, he twists the wrong way, you might have just lost six weeks of filming. Harrison Ford is way older, but Harrison Ford gets hurt now when he sneezes. You know, it's like every movie the poor guy does, he's getting hurt. That's crazy, man. And it's like, so it just, and like I said, I know Harrison Ford's like almost 80 years old, and Merge Halle is not even close to bed,

But it's still, it doesn't matter. My point is, you've got to get this done. And I think it's less about the fact that people are going to want to see Blade. People are going to want to see a new version of Blade. But what they have to do is they got to do like the, what was it called, World War Z type of formula. Because the age old story of World War Z is there was a movie that people were, Brad Pitt doing a zombie movie. And there was all these problems. Then there's all these rewrites.

This movie's going to stink. It's pretty good. And it did pretty good. It's one of the rare stories when that happens, but it worked. And it's the example I always use because it's like, okay. Now, this movie hasn't been shot yet, and they could put together a complete, and look at the same thing with, like, Daredevil's the same thing.

Daredevil was a completely different show, and they just scrapped it all, and they know they're doing a brand new one. And it could turn out to be one of the best Marvel shows ever, and I hope that it looks like they know, and they're not putting their feet in their ground. No, we're not doing anything wrong. They know that things are not the best.

Yeah, again, the self-awareness to me is the biggest element that I think we're seeing here. It's promising. Where I'm not ready to be like, everything's good. We're great. Wait a right because I have to see it first. Like I have to see it happen. And I genuinely think, again, it's that split between the old guard and the new guard

of like the direction they were going with Deadpool, but it gives you the chance to pivot and hard reset. And I think that that's the starting point. So I really think whatever happens there, you're going to gain whatever goodwill, because I have good faith that that's actually going to be a good movie. Yeah.

And then what do you do after that? And to hear these types of things where it's like, we went and got this show, we got the showrunner from the bear to come and rewrite Thunderbolt. That's huge. Smart. It's smart.

Super smart. That's getting the people that are hot right now, but getting the right people that are hot right now. And not just hot. They're hot and they're good. And yes, what I meant. But there's a lot of times that people sometimes will just grab

the, even if they're good, the hot director because, oh, everybody likes them right now, but this is someone who's doing quality, winning awards, doing those things. So that's a good move. Plus the fact that Thunderbolts, they want to move with it. Harrison Ford's not in Thunderbolts, right? He's in Captain America.

He's in Captain America, but odds are, they haven't announced it. Yeah. If they really are about to read Hulk him out, there's a pretty high probability he might show up in the Thunderbolts, to be honest with you. Is that going to be comical

to watch Harrison Ford turn into a Hulk? I don't think it's going to be as ridiculous as you think, mainly because Red Hulk... I don't have an opinion on it. I'm just curious. Just from the standpoint that Red Hulk, again, he's still, like, exactly, he's General Thunderbolt Ross. So, like, he is a military man. So there's very few times where Red Hulk is funny. Red Hulk is typically like, I'm going to break your spine.

I didn't mean... I didn't mean... Just seeing him... You see Harrison Ford turn into the Hulk. I wonder if, I wonder if, like, his transformation is an off-screen thing, where it's, like, where it's like he's in the other room and it's like, oh no, he got the formula. Or they make it look cool?

And then you just bust out of a wall. Yeah. I don't know. They make it look cool. I don't know. Look, save you some money. We covered a lot. We covered a lot of stuff, guys.

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