The Kristian Harloff Show - WOW! Pentagon's UFO online reporting tool launches. "We have uncovered some things."

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow Lots of news this week on UAP Tuesday. The Pentagon officially launched an online reporting tool for those who had experiences in an official capacity. Sean Kirkpatrick who is currently in charge of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office is rumored to be being replaced this year. Some claim the planned departure is because of many whistleblowers feeling Kirkpatrick is lying and spreading misinformation including David Grusch. James Fo who is the director of Moment of Contact and The Phenomenon sent out a tweet with video saying that his career is being threatened. What does it mean? We take a look at some videos including a 3 month old video that was first seen on the REDACTED podcast. There was a supposed alien interrogation video that was submitted to Tim Burchett and others. We watch the footage. This and more on today's episode of UAP Tuesday Big Thing with Kristian Harloff and Mark Reilly. #UAP #pentagon #government #controversy 

What's going on? Everybody, welcome back to UAP Tuesday on The Big Thing. Thanks for joining us here today. Sean Carpatrick might be the end of days for him as far as his position goes. There are people who are saying he's on the outs. What's going to happen there? James Fox. We've talked about James Fox many times on this show. He's done some great documentaries.

Well, he tweeted something out yesterday and said, they're trying to run me out of my gig. There's things happening. I can't talk about it just yet. By the time of the airing of this show, he might have explained more, but it was a little cryptic because I think he had to be. So we'll kind of dive into that and see what the deal is there. There's a few other videos and ideas, and there's a government website of more reports and things that you can do, not the ones that we covered in the past, but there's some other things that have been more reports,

and there's been almost like a declaration of things that we know some more interesting stuff is what the government is saying. So there's more information coming out, but it's the same. Same thing, right? When will we get the breaking news? When are we going to find out what's going down? This Kirkpatrick stuff is huge, though. It really is big because it kind of adds into the people kind of setting the tone for having the right people who want to get the answer. So we're going to talk about that and a lot more here today on the UAP show with myself and Mark Riley.

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Hold on. All right, this one comes from the Daily Mail, but it's pretty much all over the place. People are covering this thing. Exclusive, Pentagon UFO Chief Dr. Sean Carpatrick will. be replaced by the end of the year as whistleblowers are now accusing him of lying to the public and ignoring witnesses. So this says whistleblowers, not just David Grush. Yeah. A candidate shortlist to replace Dr. Kirkpatrick at the All-Domain Anomily Resolution Office, known as the AARO, has been interviewed in ex-official told Daily Mail.com. There are new UFO whistleblowers per one

attorney. Don't want to go to Sean's AARO. Really knowledgeable. UFO whistleblowers, people who have laid their hands on the equipment as the attorney told the Daily Mail.com and they never did trust Sean. So the Pentagon's UFO chief will resign by year's end amid a wave of complaints accusing him of making false statements about the whistleblowers and fostering an atmosphere of disinterest. Four major candidates have been interviewed to replace the current director of the Pentagon's UFO office, Dr. Kirkpatrick, following months of heated public sparring between the former CIA physicist, the UFO whistleblowers, and activists. The Pentagon appears to have already made the decision on Kirkpatrick's unnamed successor,

according to one former Pentagon official with past involvement in related UFO investigative programs who spoke with the Daily Mail. Given their public affairs track record, this ex-official said they may not put anything to the press until well after the change, but who knows, they may surprise us. The personal shift makes the culmination of months of accusations and counter-accusations traded between Kirkpatrick and the former Intel officer David Grush, who has alleged widespread illegalities stemming from a long secret UFO program. This week, Grush publicly accused Kirkpatrick of lying about his office efforts to investigate these claims, which had been

laid out by Grush last July under oath before Congress. Previously, Kerpatrick has described Grush's same testimony made before the House Oversight Committee as insulting to the officers of the Department of Defense and Intelligence Community. But fellow UFO whistleblowers working with Grush, some past and present DOD and intelligence community officers themselves reportedly don't trust and never did trust Sean, according to attorney aiding their efforts. While the precise reason for his alleged departure remained murky, Kirkpatrick has faced public criticism from UFO enthusiasts and so-called disclosure advocates seeking government transparency on UFOs and aliens. A citizen petition calling for Dr. Kirkpatrick's immediate removal

hosted by Change.org has gotten over 1,700 signatures since posting on October 22nd. The petition's author, Lisa Fine, accused Carpatrick of operating a secret committee which directs the Department of Defense, all-domain, anomaly resolution office, actions, and public statements. They said that Dr. Carpatrick has repeatedly lied to the American people about a lack of evidence concerning UFOs, according to Fine, referencing the updated terminology for unidentified flying objects. So there's more to this, but I'm going to come back to it in a second because this is so much. Yeah. This is a major, major victory for if indeed, let me say this first, if he is indeed lying as David Grush and other whistleblowers are accusing him of,

and he was very quick to jump and go, no, no, no, this is an insult. This is not, this is right after those hearings and everything too. Yeah. And there was a lot of people in Jeremy Corbell, a lot of people coming after him right away. And remember, he posted that response on like LinkedIn. Do you remember that? Yeah, right. It wasn't even like an official government statement.

So this to me, Riley proves that the tide has changed dramatically, even though there are things that obviously, you know, there's still a lot of pushback. Because you saw the frustration with what's his face, Perchette, right? Yes, yes. But it's because of people like Bert Chet and other people who are, and, you know, Chuck Schumer and the people who are running this committee who are saying, I know more. If this guy's lying about it, get him out of there. Put someone else in there.

Yeah, I don't know about how much of a huge shift it might be, but it's definitely movement, and that's great. But it might be, it might take a while. That's what I, that's what worries me is that there's, when things like this happen, ended the year. End of the year, and there's also like mentioned in there, it's like we might not hear about it depending on who they tell, what they decide to do. It might be a few months. I don't know.

You know, this is beyond my pay gray when it comes to who are they going to put in there? Sure. Yeah, I don't know. But I like that it's coming out. And I like the fact that there are more people out there. Grush is the name that stands out because we've been talking a lot about him lately. But there are more people out there going, look, he lied, get him out of here. Right.

Kirkpatrick. Yeah. And you're talking about Burschette out there. There's movement, Schumer, all these things that. the tide is shifting in the house right now, whether, you know, you like who's there at the top taking over, hopefully this will now kind of lock some people in, because if this guy has been lying, it's not a good look. Well, I mean, it's the same look that's been going on since the 1940s.

Exactly. So it just seems like people are finally going, no, no, no. That's what I look at about it. Because he's not the first, nor will he be the last of the people who are. say, no, no, no, no, you don't look this way where everything is. Look that way. And that's what he does. He goes, look that way.

And this time they go, no, we're going to look right there. And he's like, no, but you should be looking at like everybody told you. You should look that way. How come this isn't working? How this isn't working? Transparency. Yes. That's what people are pushing for with this.

And the thing is that the right people are looking, to him, the wrong people now are looking into it, right? But the right people are looking into it because this is a thing now that many, year people over the years been yeah don't listen that guy's crazy don't listen okay you're saying he's crazy so he must be crazy if kirkpatrick says that grush is crazy 10 years ago then grush is crazy and it doesn't and it doesn't count now because at the right time the what they're doing now it's like the thing that stood out to me was that the whistleblowers are not going to come forward they said look basically we're not going to come forward while this guy is running the joint yeah when he's gone

we'll talk we're coming you know with the right person we'll come forward that alone is them going, well, get rid of this guy. Get rid of him. Who needs him? We'll put somebody else in there at this point. Get rid of him. If he's lying and all the whistleblowers are saying he's lying and there's a bunch of them, get rid of him. And so that is the interesting thing because plus if they get that committee that we talked about last week,

if they get this official committee for them to do it, plus the fact that they actually have the whistleblowers come forward now because Kirkpatrick is gone, this is a big step forward. if they put someone in that position that also wants answers. And I believe that they will. Otherwise, what are we doing here? It's a gigantic jenga set. You're talking about all that, and all the pieces have to be in place.

Because a lot of this is, you're talking about the whistleblowers, and they're not trusting, crickback, get out. There's trust is got to be huge on this because it is the question. I keep going back to it. We sit here every week and we talk about this. And to me, it is so huge, the question, what is out there?

And so people are going to hold on to this as tightly as possible. And so, and lie and look over here. You're talking, oh, look over here. Transparency is what so many people. And if the whistleblowers want to come forward, but they need the right people, we got to keep doing this then and get faster or not faster because that's impossible. It's just the jenga. It's like, don't remove the wrong piece at the wrong time because it could fall apart.

It's like cleansing. It's like the dirty parts of like a piece. It's like there's like these dirty parts which are the secret holders. And it's like, you just scrub them out just a little bit. I mean, it's going to take a lot of real. There's a lot of dirt. It's a mass for 80 years. It's old school government, I would think.

I mean, it's just, I mean, old school government. Jesus, what do I know? But it's just, it's, it just feels this old way of thinking that is, that we base our movies on, whether it's men in black or just even more like, you know, deep throat and go in the dark parking structure and talk to somebody, you know, and you might get killed because of it. Right. This is like, it's, it just boggles the mind.

I don't wonder how deep we can go. And I hope this is more movement than it seems to me. I think that's movement, but how big remains to be seen. I wonder if that's also something that, you know, because I think that I did see, and we'll get to James Fox's tweet in a second. But before his tweet yesterday, he tweeted about this Carpatrick thing. He said, this is something that was coming.

He had heard about something. Other people said they had heard that this was coming because this movement is getting significantly stronger because, as we always say, it's becoming less of the... It's still there. Got to get rid of that stigma. It's still there, but it's not in the way. It's weird.

It's like now there's a group of like the, oh yeah, I got, I, I understand what you're talking, but I keep up on it. Like, I know it's less, it's, there, it was like one person who like kind of, hey, yeah, I believe in UFOs. Oh, you do. How is everything else going with you, Cuckoo Pants Jones? And, and now it's more, you know, now it's more like, oh, you, you, you, you watched the hearings. What did you, I went down, I watched this, I did that, I did that. And then there's some people that still are like, oh, yeah. Okay, sure.

Do you remember it was, was it coast to coast? It was like, and you probably weren't here at this time because I was doing theater and in high school and going back and forth between Long Beach.

I had a girlfriend up there from Long Beach to Orange County was a big long drive. It's like 20, 30 minutes, depending on traffic. And late at night, there was this coast to coast. Ken Napsock knows who I'm talking about

because California knows. But it's this guy, and it would be UFO stories. And it would be guys calling in and the stigma was... Right. And I'm listening to it, eating that up. Right.

I loved it. And then years later, it would have my little experience. But that, it's that kind of feeling of like, what are we talking about? What's going on? Do you believe this? You believe this? Now we're here.

I mean, we are further along than there. Dude, the fact that there's constant, I mean, granted it's still not covered by the, quote-unquote, major news networks, but you can find news stories on it on the internet. everywhere. And that's the difference, right? Because, like, as frustrating as it is that the main networks don't cover this, there are tons of networks that are outlets and places like, whether it's daily wire, other things that are covering it all of the time. And you forget, because it's

just kind of engraved in your head, because that's the way it always was, was that the TV was, that was legit. But you forget that most people get their news, whether you're getting your news through Twitter or you're getting your news to wherever you're getting it you're getting it online a lot of the times too so you wonder and it's still when you go like whether it's news nation or the hill or these other things like news nation will have clips on on the current news stories that all the major networks are covering and they do fine some of them don't even crack a thousand views on a million but then every one of their uap videos does extraordinarily well yeah and there's a reason because they're one of the few people that's covering it and i think there's a big contingent people out

there that that want to believe. Yeah. You know, it's that X-Files poster with the UFO and the college dorms. I want to believe. Yeah. I think a lot of people do and they probably check in and maybe they see a story that then they come back around every once in a while. What's going on out there?

My dad is always the perfect example I always bring up. He's like, I have that guy who talk to that kid who knows that general that has this picture. And it's the UAP that he took a picture of a picture. It's funny. But it's legit. It needs to be covered. As long as there's some movement, we always said,

are we going to sit around and talk? We'll do it once a month. No, there is something to talk about every week. I just love that statement that it makes with that, because usually it always seems like guys like Kirkpatrick, again, if it is indeed turns out factual that he has been lying and ignoring these whistleblowers, let's say that personally,

I believe them. And I do think he's been lying. But I don't know for sure, but let's say he is. That is such a big step because these guys don't normally lose. Yeah. And the misinformation people normally don't lose. This is a major step. It's interesting.

You bring that up. Yeah, it's the misinformation, the lie. They always win. It's just another lie comes up to cut. that line. Right. Yeah. So this is going to stop people from coming forward.

Well, or encourage people to. If they get rid of them, yeah. If they get rid of them. Because like, because he's, the guy who was running it was probably put there for a reason.

And they're going to put someone new. But the difference is, though, not the difference, but the thing you have to look into it, we can't also pretend, at least I won't, that they're going to say, you know what?

We're getting rid of this guy and we're going to bring in the guy that's going to serve us. Yeah. You hope that that's the case. but what could also happen is they're going to just bring in a guy or a girl who is very entwined and knows the way it works, but they're going to play ball in the same way that those guys did in that meeting with Burchett going, because Burchett was complimentary on them.

He was, look, there's government people doing their jobs, but they don't know anything. They were putting this place to, you know, say, hey, lead them down this trail and lead them down that way. Who's to say the next person isn't going to do the same thing? But the main thing you want to do is make sure that the whistleblowers that come through feel confident that they're going to be listened to and not basically kind of chastised the way that Grush was by Kirkpatrick. Like Grush, he went after. So Grush was like, well, Grush is in a very interesting spot, right? Because when Bob Lazar came out and back when during all those interviews back in the day, and he did his interviews as Dennis and then he finally actually comes out and does his actual name.

And for very long. And he's had people who were following him around and these things and two. He still, Bob Lazar comes up and maybe people in this comment section will say one of two things, believe Bob Lazar or Bob Lazar is lying through his teeth. It's usually the one or the other. It's one or the other a lot of times. And Bob Lazar, as he has now gotten more support as this thing starts to become bigger and become more mainstream, David Grush, and also because of the proof, kind of more so of where David Grush was recently,

the background that he's had, and David Grush is going to be one of the more premier figures that we've ever seen when it comes to this thing. because of A, the credibility. Yeah. He is beloved inside of this community overall because of what he's done. He really got me into it. I mean, when you think about it, this testimony really went, huh?

Right. And then, you know, you can compare your own experiences. I always bring mine up. And then the video that we saw that we always bring up that we were watching on Collider Live, the Tic Tac video. Yeah. It's all of those combined,

but David Grush is the face for me. And when you hear him talk again, like he's been on those he's been on a few interviews since and the way that he carries himself in general but you can see where he was especially if he because Kirkpatrick was the first one to kind of went after him and then that and then the the reporter went after him kind of trying to expose well expose him by really going after him basically saying is a thing that he did in a it was cut out of the news nation report but in the news nation interview and they eventually showed it he talked about his PTSD.

He talked about it, but they didn't air that at the time. But then the reporter went after and tried to expose him with that, and that backfired on the reporter. And people like, why in the world would that be anything that we would hold against this guy for? He was having problems at the time. And he admitted he's gotten help. That was nothing, a complete nothing burger where it was.

And he went after, and Grush now is going after Kirkpatrick. What's he can do to that reporter? you know what I mean? And what I mean is he's just building more and more support because people find what he's talking about as credible and more whistleblowers are coming around and people like he's he has a lot of support in that community. So I think Grush is going to get more and more.

I hate to use the word powerful, but. Well, I hope. I wish I was as cheery. I feel like this will just, you know, I feel like I'm glass half. empty, which I'm not normally in life, but with this, the politics for it just worry me, especially with the circus. You know, it's like you have to, you have to like walk by a three-ring circus just to get

to the other circus that this can be. It's true, but like it's, but it is, it is like, but what the bizarre thing is, as we've talked about, it just, it's the one topic when, when they're talking about it, that all of these lunatics inside of the Pentagon are on the same page. Yeah, I know. It's the one... I hope. Well, it seems like from that hearing, right?

Yeah. And if they do, if this crew of Republicans and Democrats together during this time in the next, I don't know, two to five years, break the story, Yeah.

That, A, we're not alone. B, people are reverse engineering stuff. It's a different ballgame for the entire government. Yes. If we're playing with monopoly money here, that would bring together a lot of people. You would hope. I would think. If it, and I think maybe that's part.

Maybe that's also part of the reason why of the quietness or the try the secrecy, right? because as they say, you know, as they say sex cells, they say war cells and hate cells, right? Yeah. And that's what they don't necessarily want. They don't want the stuff that they've been covering up and all these different things. And it will, it will, I mean, the one thing I was thinking about today,

right, that does make me nervous because you can see this happening. What if they finally get into a room, it's Burchett, Luna, and Mouskowitz, and all these people. They get into a room, and the brass has been hiding this for as long as they are, saying, okay, you guys keep pushing, you keep pushing, you keep pushing. Here's what this is. Let me show you. And they go, think we should tell the public? And then the public goes, and then they all go, no.

Whatever it is, they go, no. And then they come out, oh, it was a wild goose chase and blah, blah, blah. It just terrifies me. It's Bill Pullman's head on an alien. But it terrifies me that that kind of thing could happen. I think about that all the time. I mean, you think about, you see past presidents that come into the office the first day. And when they leave, they're like almost a husk of their former self because of all.

They age in like three months. They age in three months because they learn the secrets. Right. You know, this is what's happening. This is sleep. This is what? They also don't sleep. They don't sleep.

And I'm not saying that this is part of it. I'm just seeing to know, like, the shit. Just in general. In general. So I worry about that all the time. It's like, okay. Yeah. That what we have evidence of is this. Right. And you're like, oh God.

Right. You want to tell people that? How do you think that's going to play? You want to, you want to stop maybe? And then they go, oh, maybe we should stop. Well, you don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. That's what I'm saying. Like that I just have that fear that they're just going to go, okay, fine. Just should bring them in a room and then tell them shush afterwards because look, I mean, again, that's a paranoia thing in general, but you never know whether they're going to pull case and point the James Fox stuff.

Yeah. All right, this is the video from James Fox, and this is what he posted today, and we'll talk about it after we play this. Here it is. Hello, everybody. Sitting in my favorite spot, I hike up to this point, pretty much daily.

Think about my work and edits that I'm working on, how I'm putting the film together. But I'm writing this post because I've been holding something in for the last six months, dealing with career-related issues, the likes of which I've never experienced in my entire life. So challenging, it feels like someone's trying to extinguish my career. It's pretty terrifying.

I'll probably be going public with it. later this week. For legal reasons, I can't discuss it right now, but I wanted to give you all a heads up and thank you for all your support. It means the world to me. So what the hell is that? I don't know. What was that? I don't know. To use like pretty terrifying. It's like, what? What is that? Like that could, I mean, that could be a array of different things. And right away we go to conspiracy and that men and black. Yeah, men and black and those types of things. But it also could be something like some allegations or other things too. I don't know.

and that maybe that he knows the last couple of months and maybe that these particular things are being set up against him because he's getting too close because he's gotten close. I mean, you look at the phenomenon, you look at a moment of contact, you look at all these things that he's done.

This is one of the guys that his nose is in it. I mean, people bring up, we bring him up on the show, I think, once or twice a week, right? So he's in it. So the question is, what the hell is going on? Again, we tape this show, on Mondays. So by the time we released this show, we could have more answers. He could have posted

something, but he said probably towards the end of the week, so we'll find it a little more. Maybe we'll talk about it more on the next show. But like, yeah, that's the question. Is you working on this movie, what, what is it? Right now, it's kind of like speculation. But I wonder if it's like, you know, again, like, what's going to be weird is if you start hearing more people, like, whether it's um and then jeremy corbell comes out and says that he hasn't but like if germany corbell says well i've got something that people are or are coming after me on and then you think the other podcasts that are out there that are covering let's let's let's let's let's hope we i don't i think we're okay yeah what are they going to get for us yeah to to yeah

we're talking about close encounters again yeah and nuts dot com you get all these DVDs yeah that they could take that's right some of them have aliens and them. But you know what I mean? But it's like, but this is a guy who's like really. I mean, he's interviewed Burchett. He's going through. He's really in it. So he's got powerful friends too, though. So, you mean, has he uncovered something? I don't know. That's the question. Yeah. That's what, yeah. And that, that's the rabbit hole that I prefer not to go down because you could just fill in any blank you want. Wait for the man to say what he's going to say. Because I feel, I worry, but I'm not going to worry.

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All right, this one is pretty fascinating, and I think this is going to kind of be the, this might be the juice of this episode. This is from The Guardian. It starts with we've uncovered some things. Pentagon's UFO online reporting tool launches. Yes. This move signals U.S. government slowly opening up about what it knows or doesn't about the UAPs. The Pentagon has launched an online reporting tool for certain encounters with unidentified anomalous phenomenon,

formerly known as UFOs, in an expansion of its effort to be more transparent about its exploration of the unknown. Only current or formal federal employees or those with direct knowledge of U.S. government programs or activities related to UAP dating back to 1945 are so far eligible to use a secure form. This is a crazy. This is crazy. Which went live on Tuesday on the website of the Defense Department's somewhat blandly named All Domain Anomily Resolution Office. And as I say, every episode, why isn't this covered on the freaking news?

Are you kidding me? This should be like a lead story everywhere. This is crazy. An option for the public to submit reports is coming soon, officials say, which to me is dangerous. The move signifies that the government is slowly moving closer to fulfilling its promise of complete openness about what it knows or doesn't, about everything from strange flashes in the sky to the possibility of alien life and sightings of unusual flying craft. The launch of the tool follows the appointment last month of former Pentagon liaison Mark McNary as NASA's first director of UAP research and the space agencies promised to harness a worldwide army of citizens sky watchers

to approve its observations and analysis of the unfamiliar. The new form, Arrow says on its website, is intended as an initial point of contact. It is not intended for conveying potentially sensitive or classified information. secondhand information about UAP or encounters therefore is not welcome. It says Sean Carpatrick, the director or may be former of Arrow, told reporters on Tuesday that first-hand knowledge, particularly of government-involved UAP programs, definitely is and will be treated sensitively and confident. This reporting mechanism that is on the website for people who think they have first-hand knowledge of clandestine programs that the government has been hiding, he said. If a pilot is flying around and he sees something in his airspace and he has to report it, that goes through the operational channels. Conspiracy theories about the level of government involvement and the knowledge of UFO and UAP research and programs have circulated for decades from rumors of a secret government facility holding alien spacecraft and life forms at Area 51 to the fictionalization of the topic of popular TV programs such as the X-Files.

Patrick said, those clinging to such beliefs are likely to be disappointed. of course. I can, yeah. Right. I currently have no evidence of any program having ever existed to do any sort of reverse engineering of any sort of extraterrestrial UAP program, he said. This plays back into the previous story, by that. We do have a requirement by law to bring whistleblowers or other interviewees in who think

that it does exist, and they may have information that pertains to that. Notably, he dangled the prospect of upcoming public dissemination of some information that has previously been kept secret. We've got a package of a lot of new material that we've done. got ready for release. We've uncovered some things that we have declassified, not just operational videos, but historical documents without giving details. He described it as educational material that will help inform the public.

Okay. So, again, hard to take it serious at the end there when Kirkpatrick's talking. Especially when you just had this whole thing where we're like, I'm like, don't believe him. Don't believe him, right? And that's the whole thing. This is why he's also should resign because no one's going to. going to take them serious anymore anyway. I was going to say all of this is it it it's like tables of turn bucko well it's like you have this report and you're like okay we want to increase transparency and then

by the way this is this guy lying and then we're going to take away skiff access and we're going to do this it's like it's mixed signals. Yeah it's I don't know what to believe but Kirkpatrick though this adds into that last article in my opinion is that there are so many people that that credible people that have come forward, many people that we've talked about in this show over the last couple of weeks talking about reverse engineering and people who are higher up than Grush and people talking about these things

and people who didn't officially come forward through a hearing but have been on the record talking about the exact programs confirming what Grush has said and then this guy's like, oh, no, no, no. And it's like, but why are there tons of people saying this now? It's not just one guy. There's a bunch of people saying this now, and there have been for years.

So they're all lying? I just don't know about it. Then you shouldn't be the guy. Right. If everybody, if all these people know that it's true or say that it's true, believe that it's true. Well, there's evidence leading to you more information. And they can show you where it is or tell you who it is,

then we shouldn't be going, no, I don't know about that. But they're telling you. You do know about that because they're telling you about that. So what do you mean? And basically this article is saying, well, that's giving these people the opportunity to do it. Well, they don't want to say it to you because they don't trust your ass.

So, buy. But the bigger part of that article is the fact that they're doing this. Now, if they do get rid of Kirkpatrick, and they do bring in somebody new that is monitoring this, and now the whistleblowers go, well, I'm going over to that site.

I'm going to go over there and I'm going to spill everything. Yeah, because that's the thing about this site. It's like you have to have that, clearance first, right? To sign up. To get in there. To anyone with the access,

pack all the way to 1945. Right, right. That's insane to think. But that's great. That, to increase transparency, perfect. Yeah. Get, that's the one thing. I'm sure if they,

and it's dependent on what they know and what they're going to want to put and what they want to share. And that's what we goes back to, we're always back chasing the freaking tail. Right back to the point we made earlier when we're talking about like, what if it's like serious shit.

Yeah. And they like, I'm not gonna put it on this website right now. Well, they said there's only, there's some stuff that they're not, like, you know, there's certain things that they're not gonna put on there, but it's to report it. And it's also a way for people just kind of to get their stories out there in general. And people who have that type, I mean, look. Well, it makes me think too, we've talked about how many times somebody in the world, let's just keep it here for argument's sake in the United States,

sees something, whatever it may be. Now take all of those sightings and they go here. And then we take all of those sightings that are in here and one of them is something. Yeah. You know, it's like how many people are out there. Yeah, I mean, it is. It's very interesting to see how that is all gonna play

and how it will absolutely, I don't know, if it's gonna change when more people feel like they have the confidence to do it, if they feel like they're being protected, if they feel like they're being protected, if they feel like they're being, being listened to and it is very, very interesting. It is.

Or it's that. Yeah. So there's so many. It's a spectrum of things that can happen, you know? But there's just so many people now. I think the question was always, especially before like 2000 and like 19, before the New York Times article. Yeah.

And before Harry Reid kind of started doing that stuff with Lou Elizondo and everything, too, it's like the question I think would always be like if even if you're a government, ex-governor officially, well, who do I talk to? Who do I talk to? Now, if I was somebody, I'm trying to, hey, can you get me in touch with David Grush? Can you get in touch with Burchat? Can I get in touch with Luda? Can I get in touch with Mouskowitz?

Can I get into, there's people to get in touch with now. Because really it is. I mean, it's like I always, I keep bringing in my friend, you know, who had his experiences. But my experience with him and what I've seen, it's like you don't think to go, I'm going to tell this person, this person, this person. it becomes your own lore. Right. You know, it's like I'm walking around going, yeah, I saw some shit.

Right. And that's it. And that's, I didn't think anything. And then when those videos come out and when you have now in Burchett and all these people, you know, saying something and there's smoke where there's fire, all these things. I'm like, God, some, come on.

Well, that's why I'm, it does kind of lead back into when we said that with Corbell and what James Fox and what Lou Elizondo, what all these people have said is that, there's something coming, right? There's more information coming. There's big news coming within the next year. And I wonder if this is all like the domino effect. You know, like, that's what I'm wondering. Crush comes out.

The more whistleblowers, there's the Fox stuff, but there's the fact that they're getting rid of Kirkpatrick. They're doing these things and they're leading up to a certain thing. Like, is that, like, there needs to be things in place in order for it to happen? Is this like the, it's like the rebellion? working against the empire, you know what I mean? It's like, look, there's little things that we need to do. This person needs to be removed out of their position,

and we're going to essentially do to them what they did to us, and we're going to be able to say, that person, if they're out of the way, and we get so-and-so in there, if this person's out of the way, they'll let this thing happen. You know what I mean? It looks like that that's what happens.

So at this point, Princess Leia has the plans, and she's escaping right now. And the droids are on their way to tattooing. That's where we are right now as far, yeah. You know what I mean? And that's really what it seems like, there's these little things because don't think that they're not sitting behind the closed door saying, look, we got to beat them at their own game.

And why wouldn't you do that? It's like you got to find out a way to do this and how, like, I mean, maybe it's like a chess game. Oh, yeah. Because this is interesting to where they're like, okay, look, there's only so much, Maybe, again, we talk about the two guys who were like, well, you know, maybe the time has come. We'll let people know what's going on. And it's like, well, give them a little bit.

You know, tell Carpacch to open up a website. Yeah. And, you know, put out the stuff, but just ignore it. Yeah, no. And then, and now they can't. It's like, it's getting. It's because it's, it's the equivalent of Oppenheimer. It is.

I mean, it's what we're, what we're dealing with is that monumental. If it's indeed true. If it indeed is true. But if you were to just, for me, take what is legitimately tangible that we have evidence, evidence, evidence, evidence. From across the board, like NASA, take what they said, the hearings, it's something, we don't know what it is. Just whatever that is, that's an arms race. That's people wanting to figure that out, reverse engineer it. That's what Grush said.

Land first on the moon, all the different things that we've had in our history. That is the precedent being said, and that's why we're jumping through hoops. All these people, that's what I feel is going on, and that they can hide behind the stigma. They can literally say, you know, ah, come on. For how long?

For how many years ago, memory, comes out in the alien mask? Right, right. And then that guy went back and retracted that. Yes. And he retracted it because he's like, yeah, I would do things differently now. Yeah, right.

Because it's, you don't do that. Not with stuff like this because. It adds to the stigma. Yes. And it's something that is there. Yeah. If they're trying to, if they're not telling us because it's earth-shattering, it's like, you don't want to sleep for the rest of your life, fine.

Right. Here it is. I am going to show a little later because I, I didn't realize it. I mean, there was this interview that came out around three months ago that I'll show at the end. Because we always do this thing where we watch some of the videos at the end of the show. Yeah. I love it. We always watch. the videos and it's been people have been enjoying it so we just it's stuff that we look at whether

or we think that it's real or or not real or whatever it is there was a report that came out like three months ago about there was like you remember those there was a few like an alien interrogation videos yes so there was one that they said came out and like was it 97 97 I think 97 is when they said this video was from and then they had a guy on the show the the interviewer it's a guy that's been, he's becoming more and more of a legit kind of podcast, or at least someone that, maybe he's always been legit, but there's someone that I've seen in interviewing

some pretty big people and throughout it, but he had this guy on who is saying that this video is real, right? Right. And it's like three, this is like three months ago. And I, I didn't realize that like, no, no, no, not that one. No, no, no, no, there's no audio on it.

There's no audio on. I love my impression of it. That one was good, that one was good. Well, because they're being, because in that one, The interrogators are being dicks to the alien in that one. They're just like, oh, yeah? Oh, yeah, why? What else?

What else do you think? And the aliens, like, because they're going to have more intelligence coming up. Oh, yeah? What kind of intelligence guy? It's so bad. That one's really bad. This one, look, I don't know. We'll show it at the end of the show.

But it's like, but it's, and I saw some guy reporting on or talking about it, like, a days ago and I thought it was new, but it's like from three months ago, which still, it's interesting. So we'll play a little of the audio and we'll play a little of the video of the actual, you know, interview itself. But then there's a few other ones that came in. There's more of that San Diego stuff, by the way. Oh, I'm sure. But it was people, people not realizing that the skydivers, the ones. They keep doing it. So I saw like, even Greg Grunberg the other day, those, oh, UFO was like, now. The public Navy Seals. That's where they live. So there's a lot of stuff going on.

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This is from The Hill. They had a little report on more UFO sightings and NORAD denying that it deployed jets to intercept UAPs, even though other sources say otherwise. Here it is, and I'll play this and we'll talk about it. I'm not going to play this whole thing, It's over 11 minutes, but we'll talk about some of it. More UFO secrets?

According to investigative journalist Ross Coldheart, three sources have told him that there was an undisclosed encounter over the Arctic Circle on February 1st, 2023, with NORAD organizing fighter jets being sent to take the object down, three days before the Chinese spy balloon was shot down in U.S. airspace. Let's watch. Three sources tell me there was an earlier publicly undisclosed incident over the Arctic Circle on the 1st of February,

three days before the Chinese balloon shoot done. These defence and intelligence sources revealing two News Nation, eight or nine UAPs were detected over the Arctic Circle and that fighter jets were sent up in what was an unsuccessful attempt to intercept them. Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Christopher Mellon has independently confirmed the same story. Fighter jets were deployed from NORAD to engage with those objects and that they were seen to maneuver away, apparently at high speed.

Have you heard those allegations? I've heard it now from three different people. Yeah, I've heard the same thing, and from an individual who would have plausible reason to know. But this really speaks to a much larger issue, which is the lack of information from the Air Force about UAP generally. Let's hear some more on the same incident. Did they find the object, the pieces of the object they shot down? No, ma'am, they did not. In fact, it's a continuing mystery.

Six months on, the public's been told nothing. We've been told that they didn't find anything, even though the New York Times and other institutions were reporting at the time that the sea ice was frozen and that it was quite clear there was very clear open conditions that day. The conditions were perfect for recovery. And moreover, it was reported in media that there was something anomalous about the Alaska object in particular.

This is an ongoing mystery, Elizabeth. We just don't know, and I think the public's got a right to know. what happened and the Pentagon has indicated it's soon about to start releasing some of the shoot-down vision nor had denied the incident saying the jets were on a training operation so i don't know what to make of this right let's let's stop with that um because that to me is that's the story yeah yeah the the first thing i thought of when the the source is like deployed they deployed uh some some jets to go to intercept but they couldn't find anything I'm like, yeah, that that sucker got out of there.

It was like, took off. Either got out of there or they, or they did one of those things where they're just like, one, one, we didn't find it, or we didn't find anything. And then like all the other things they haven't found that they've been testing for years. Or there's footage. Or there's footage. There's other things. It's like, so it's, it's interesting how more, because Colhart is, is another one who is,

he's the one who did the interview with David Grush. He was one who broke that story there. And he's, he's very much. And his, his nose is really. in it when I come to these things. And this is the story he's, I think, really passionate about right now. He's been chasing down. So the two of these stories, was it named Maloney? Is that, is that the guy he was talking to? Yeah, yeah. That was a name that I saw thrown around taking Kirkpatrick's position. I don't know if he's even up for it. I don't know. But I mean,

maybe just somebody had put it out there and said, hey, this guy should be running it. Maybe just because they like the guy. I don't know. But it's insane to think it was a few days before the Chinese balloon. makes sense. You know, you're, I don't know. With all of this, it's like over the Arctic Circle. Yeah. Right.

How much is. I know. This is just one of those things, real or not, sources, you know, people can say, you know, oh, I made up sources and all this. That's one of the things that can be thrown out back at people. But this is so, like, for me, again, legit, credible people talking about this. But it all seems to follow the same kind of. stuff that we've been talking about.

The Air Force is as much in this whole cover-up thing as anyone else. They're the ones that are seeing most of this. Yeah, right? They have to be. How many times? Think about that Texas case. The one that they covered in encounters, one that they covered in the documentary watched, it's been covered many times over of like...

We saw jets. Oh, we didn't have any jets. There were no jets. There were no jets. Oh, wait, wait, actually, we did have some jets. It was a training exercise. Same deal here. Is it the same thing? It's a training exercise. No, no, no, no, no. It was a training exercise. You mean three days. before the Chinese spy balloon, you were doing

a training exercise? Right. Yeah. Hey, they're on the call. Training exercise. Got it. It's an alien. It's just it's always an alien just in there. They're playing poker. Yeah, he's like, training exercise. It's the same guy from the

interrogation. Yeah. He's just like, they're always standing in the back. They're buddies now. And he's just like, tell them it's an interrogation. He's playing palm on his phone. Oh, yeah, it's an interrogation, huh? Why is it interrogation? I mean, that's I just say it out loud, which is really funny to do. They were having a training exercise three days before the Chinese,

they saw the Chinese air balloon. Yeah. Okay. But it's the same thing. It's always a training exercise. It was, there's explosions out, and it was an exercise. It was nuclear things. It was an exercise.

It was a training exercise. It was a... I saw a, like, I think that's Godzilla coming out of the Pacific and some jets went over there. Training exercise. Yeah. Hawaii's gone. Training exercise. Training exercise.

I mean, that's, are you, I'm not surprised. We're getting to, we're getting to the point and social media is just screwing, you know, it's causing things in front of you

are not what they seem anymore. That's the problem. Yeah, you're getting to the point where it's like, you know, the sky turned purple. No,

didn't, you know? Well, it's funny because the thing is, some of these videos that we're going to show in just a second here, 10, 15 years ago, if the same video,

were shown, you'd believe that it was real. Oh, 100%. Because the technology is so good now, it's like you look at this like, you know, because there's two sides of it. I'm gonna, I'll play the video of the alien interrogation thing, and it's like. I really wanna see it.

I know, and it's like, and because. We have to have fun sometimes. Yes, and we're both gonna, and we're both gonna do the same thing, which we're being a little hypocritical in a certain aspect if it turns out this thing's real, because right away we're going, because they're like,

Okay, they interviewed an alien. But this is... I'm always ready to believe. Right. And so the video is... It's interesting. It's interesting. So I'm going to play...

I'm going to play the video... Okay. ...of the alien interrogation thing. This is from this podcast, and I'll give the guy that his duo when I bring it up to it, because he's an interview. You've seen him if you're following the space.

And it is being purported as real? You'll hear it. Okay. I'll play the video now. All right. This is from the redacted podcast, and a lot of people, this guy, I'm not sure his name, but he's everywhere.

He's interviewed tons of people in this community. And this is, I'll play, there's going to be kind of jump cuts, I guess, throughout this because this is a 40-minute interview that I'm not playing the whole thing. I'm just going to go out a little spots. Here you go. Port now here at Redacted.

The film that you are about to see is jaw-dropping, and it was passed over by the New York Times. The New York Times had an opportunity to run this story, and they didn't. and we are here now at Redact, we're going to run this story. We're going to show you this unbelievable film in just a moment.

But what's more astonishing, however, might be the cover-up and the secrecy of this top-secret film. My guest today is John Stewart, former candidate for Illinois governor in U.S. Congress. He spent more than five years investigating proving the provenance of this alleged film, this top-secret film, which we're about to show you,

and which you are about to see. and it purportedly shows an alien, an extraterrestrial, biological entity being interrogated at the S2 facility in 1997 by members of the U.S. military. Yes, an alien creature being interrogated by members of the U.S. military. Just a few weeks ago, our guest, John Stewart, hand-delivered his entire investigation to Congressman Tim Burchett's office. and he's become the first non-government civilian to submit a report to the United States Congress regarding the extraterrestrial phenomenon. And John joins us now.

John, welcome to the show. It's a pleasure to have you here on Redact it. So we're going to show this film in a minute, and it's about two minutes and 57 seconds long, this film from 1997. I'm going to walk through it, and you're going to explain to our viewers exactly what we're seeing, but I do want to provide some context here.

The fact that he gave it to her chance, Ted is pretty crazy. This film came to be, how you got your hands on this film. I want to hear But Chet's opinion on this. Yeah. The cover-up surrounding this film. So how did you first learn about this interrogation that took place at 1997 at the S-2 facility? This is important.

Like most people back in 1997, this was part of, or this was a documentary that came out. And I was living in this baller lifestyle. You know, I had a black porous or power boat on Lake Michigan. living in the 36th floor of one of the hottest real estate markets and areas in Chicago. And I say that not to impress anybody, but to impress upon people, you know, I go to sit down and watch this documentary thinking alien interview. This is going to be like a weird humanoid looking person handing a clipboard over to a general at the Pentagon for a job interview.

I mean, this is how my brain was thinking, and I'm sitting down and 30 minutes into this documentary this footage comes on it's not professionally done it doesn't have any cuts there's people in the foreshadow this gray alien is bone color own like human bone it's got round eyes not point you know almond shaped eyes you know if i'm hoaxing a video of a gray alien it's going to be gray and it's going to have the typical alma dies and this bizarre physiological monitor next to the the being that goes up and down and not across the screen. And then Victor, the alleged whistleblower, who claimed to have helped smuggle this out of area 5-1, 5-1, that's the way insiders talk of area 51.

And I, you know, I had a psychologist tell me that I probably encountered 10,000 people in my life with wrestling and, you know, in the automobile industry and in politics. I've never heard anyone this intelligent in my life. And I don't think a 23-year-old screenwriter in 96 could have made up this script that Victor was talking about. I mean, the vernacular he used was bizarre. And he used a term called medical flagging. The creature starts to medically flagged.

And I asked my old doctor, who was about 65 years old at the time in 97, on my annual check, I said, what is medically flagging? him he goes he goes where did you hear that from that's like a that's like a army medical term we used in the 50s and 60s I'm like wait a minute what is going on here and then there was some weird an acronym on the bottom DNI david november igloo slash 27 and victor tells us that was the department of naval intelligence so i run for congress two years later with this film in the back

of my mind going what is going on here and i don't want to say it's name anymore because I'm getting admonished for doing so but I was on a political bus tour and I went up to a senator during a break and who has passed away now and I said senator what is the Department of Naval Intelligence and Clayton you look in my eyes this guy went from jovial happy senator to this aggressive look and he looked at me goes you don't need to know anything about that and he stormed off and he never talked to me the rest of the tour which was a weekend and I'm thinking of myself and Clayton you're a journalist, you're an investigator reporter too. I'm thinking, wait a minute. I got a hoaxed

video with medical terminology that from 50s and 60s. I've got a gray alien that's tan and round eyes. Medical staff are in short sleeve scrubs and not in biohazard suits to really high. And the verification of that, all of that processing there, the New York Times piece of this, them saying we believe you, we believe the veracity of this. So you have all of that. Now, let's play the film. All right. So this is the actual film itself. And so this guy, the New York Times apparently believed him. He turned this into, again, this is a three-month-old video. There's more people haven't been talking about this. But Burchett and everybody already has this footage. So here's the actual footage itself, Riley, right? Okay. So here it is. This is, again, it's silence. There's

no audio on this. What are we looking at here as we play this film? What are we seeing on our screen John. Okay. Very to Victor's voiceover. This is a film shot April of 2019, a thought projection interview of a other gray designated an other gray, an extraterrestrial biological entity. He is a haploid, which means he came with only one sexual chromosome. Human beings are diploids. For any microbiologists out there, if I'm hatcheting those words, I'm sorry. Sorry, but this bean had only one sexual chromosome. He came to the S2 Alpha, the official designation of the underground facility that housed

the alien interrogation and retention program. That's the unofficial name of what this was. They call these interview suites, the ambassador suites, because they do, the government did try for the care and did treat these and look at these beings and still do as ambassadors from other planet in other dimensions. And if you hear David Grush coughing on his words,

it's because he doesn't want to tell you that some of these beings are from other dimensions. He actually has said that. Yeah. So this bean was very ill at the time. He had a respiratory issue. Now, Sean David Morton also heard, also heard, I can't verify this ferocity,

that it's some sort of tibilitation or disease with its heart lung sac. It does not have a traditional heart. It's got a heart lung one sack, which was the need for the special monitor, which goes up and down, does not go across, to monitor this bizarre heart-lung, one-sack organ that the alien has.

And behind the viewing glass were five men, two telepass. There is a researcher out there, and I don't doubt it, and because I've seen the outline of the figure, and I didn't catch this, and someone else did, so I'm crediting them. I don't ever want to not credit other people. That Colin Powell was in that interview room. Now I know that sounds crazy.

I can't verify it, but it certainly looks like the outline of them. It looks like an African-American male in his 50s wearing an army class A dress uniform. Funny, the rear admiral that was on my list was the person that reported intelligence to the Joint Chief's staff. Interesting. But that's how bizarre this film.

has gotten and I'm not even going to tell you anything about the telepaths because I don't want it to get into the Da Vinci Code but even Doty said that the telepathic program that people they hired was ridiculous they were like one step above one eight hundred psychics back in the 80s and 90s but there was two men in particular that were very in touch with these beings and they would sit down with these aliens and these beings and immediately get information and related back to whoever whatever military person was in the room All right, that's just like a portion of that.

Like, I mean, you can watch the full interview. Yeah. I'll leave the, I'll leave the, I'll leave it. For a while, I was like, what the hell am I looking at? Until like, yeah. I couldn't tell until they got in his face up in on that alien. Yeah, it's like, so I mean, I don't know. It's like, again, it's like this, but this is, this is where you jump into those.

It's hard. It's hard because there's going to be people who look at that from this video. And they go, all right, that's just too. I'll listen to you guys when it talks about the UAP stuff and what the hell is it in this guy. And fine, Harlow, if you saw something bouncing around the sky and Riley, you did too. Okay, fine. But come on. Yeah.

That's where I... And it's fair. But the only thing... I'd like to get... I'd like to get Bertrette's response to this video because you get this... Here's this guy who ran for governor wherever he is, and he ran... So his story is, and there's probably more to the story, but the story is that a guy who worked at Area 51,

smuggled this thing out. The video. The video out. Smuggled the video out. Gets the video out. Gets it to him. They've already, the New York Times

looked at it, say it's pretty valid. They don't say it's not valid, but they don't do a story on it. Yeah. Right. And then he turns it into Burchet and everybody else.

Now, here's the craziest thing. Let's say, again, hypothetically. Mm-hmm. that they get rid of Kurt Patrick, they get somebody else in there, they get their committee, they get all this stuff, they get the new whistleblowers coming forward, they get a new hearing. And then at the hearing, Burchett goes, this was submitted to us. We have been investigating it, looking at it, and we can confirm this is an actual video.

Then people would lose their minds. Yes. They would lose their minds. Yes. I don't know. I mean, again, you look at this. It's great. I was wondering if you were going to go the other way.

We have confirmed that this is false. And this is, we want to be transparent. Right. This was made by Steven Spielberg. But why bring that up at a hearing, though, is the thing. Right. You know, it's like, you know, but, but, or don't even, you wouldn't bring it up. You just wouldn't.

I mean, if it's, if they can confirm that it is valid. Mm-hmm. And they can play it and they can have people there. I mean, the fact Colin Powell was in the room. Allegedly. Allegedly. That's what they're saying. Right.

Allegedly. It is hard for me to really go there too. It is hard. I see that. I go, all right. Fine. I'm looking at an alien. Maybe, perhaps.

Right. It's just hard. It's hard to step over that line. I need more than that. I need, it's, you know, it's like, you need the confirmation on it. What is this? We're sitting here two guys looking at internet videos and, and I know, it's

real? That's what I mean. I can't go there. I know. I get it. And I understand that. And I think that's fair. And I, you know, if you're talking to people come out and they say this is real, that's what I mean. I can't go there either because, and I think that that's what, and not this video. But other, let's say other videos, let's say this video is legit, but there's other videos that have been legit, that people go, this is legit. And then they go, no, it's not. And then And everybody else goes, oh, okay, well, they said it's not, so it's not. So what they're hoping is like, okay, great. Mori stole the tape.

And which tape did he steal? One of them, which one? The one from 97. Oh, he stole that one? Well, what's he going to do with it? He's probably going to put it on the Internet. Yeah, I don't know. You know what I mean?

They're going to go, let them. What are people going to think he's, that that video was real? I don't know. I think there could be two ways of thinking. I think if that's legit, that thing ain't getting out the door. And if it's going online, it's not there, very long. Well, or whatever it may be. However it may be, I don't think it is that simple.

I couldn't imagine them saying, I look, all right, it's the one that, you know, featuring Paul. Right. I'm with you here. I'm with you here. I just also want to cover because on the, on the chance. I love covering this stuff. Yeah, on the chance that they ever do play this.

And they say, this one, better than the cake bodies. This is it. And we go, hey, that's the video we talked about. Right. Like, right now, real or fake? That? Yeah. Fake.

Yeah, I'm going to say fake. Yeah. But you never know. And to put it into the entertainment vernacular. Okay? At one point, and all the stuff that I've done in my entertainment career, I said that Sony would never pair up with Disney to do Spider-Man. Right, right. So you've known to be wrong.

I have been wrong. This could come out and they could go, this is, this is it. This is it. This is an alien. This is legit. I think I know the answer to this question. But I'm going to ask you guys, after seeing that video, where do you stand? And by the way, if you feel that it is legitimate, no one here, especially us, two idiots, are mocking you for saying so.

Oh, God, no. Because I think there's tons of videos out there that could, that people have gone, us included, that I've gone, nah, I don't think so. That could eventually be like, no, that's real. That was our point to open that segment is that there are things right now that because of the way the internet is and because of the way people can make things look so legit, that it's like, it's just tough. I could tell you to put it like the TikTok video.

Yeah, right. Without context, without having it be tied to certain things like the New York Times article. You would go with that. You could look at that and answer the, you know, how? the same real or fake. I don't know. It's like a dot flying around. You know, it's probably fake.

Now the flip side of that, what you just said. Yeah. If you're like, there's a new interview with David Grush. And David Grush says one of the whistleblowers that he knows that is now has come forward is the guy that stole the tape. Okay. Then you're going, all right, maybe we should watch that tape again. Right?

Like right now we're like, I don't know. And I think it's fair to say, I don't know. because it's hard. It's hard. But there's other stuff we want to look at, too. Let's look at this. All right. This is going to be the last one we do for today.

Now, this is just the jets, you know, flying something. And what are they flying past? Are they chasing something? Are they escorting something? What is that? I'll tell you what that is. You know what that is? Yeah.

Cal L has come home. I don't know what that is. I don't, what the hell is that? It just says fighter jets escorting a UFO. What do you think it is? Is it manmade? I think the answer to that is yes. I think it is a manmade thing.

I think it's a manmade thing that they, that's probably a training exercise. That's probably a bunch of Navy seals. Something. They're all holding together flying through the air. But that's the thing, man. It's like, you know, that's one thing I will say, to us, because to be, you know, when we were talking about,

and I should, I should apologize too, because we did the thing where we saw, like, remember, I think they actually said that that Bigfoot thing was actually was a hoax, the one with the... I wanted to tell you. Yeah. Yeah, I saw in the community notes of the thing. It was a hoax, right?

It's not a hoax. It's part, the whole thing is, it's a Bigfoot trail-themed excursion. Okay. And that M-Fer dressed up in a Bigfoot costume, the owner of the thing. and walked out there to give people the experience. Hilarious.

So people are taking pictures going, there he is. Right. He sat, I see Bigfoot, and then it went out there, is real. Okay, so. Yeah. But, and the apology that I have to say is this, though,

because it turns out, like you said, he and I looked at the sense out, I don't know. Don't believe that one. It's hard for us to believe Bigfoot, because it's just, you can, there's so many, drones can fly around and eventually get.

We have eyes on the ground. We have eyes on the ground. You can see stuff. Right. But what I don't want to do, do is I don't want to take away from people who have done a, because the one thing we've always said is we've been studying more about the UAP stuff and looking more into things too, and I don't want to be hypocritical where I'm saying to somebody, well, I don't know. And I haven't done any research

on Bigfoot. So somebody who has made their life. Somebody who really knows it, right? Somebody who has done the reports, somebody who has watched certain documentaries who has more information than we do on it that could say, look, there's things that you guys. just don't know about, which very much could be accurate. So I don't want to take away from people's experience and people's beliefs in those things, too, because I don't know enough about it. Okay. I'll battle somebody if they say the earth is flat.

Go to space. Look, it's a fucking ball. I can't do that. It goes like this. So I'm not going to give you credit on that. But when it comes to the, when it comes to the, um, Lochness. I don't know enough about it. I don't either.

I'm not going to shit on ghosts and paranormal. I'm not going to tell you that, you know, what you know is less than what we think we know about this. Well, that's social media. That was presented to everybody as this is real. This is we have captured footage of Bigfoot. Right. And that's more so where we were coming from.

I'm just going like, that's just not. You know, and then we had our debate about it, and then I saw it days later. I wanted to take a picture and send it to you, but then the algorithm ate it up, and I was somewhere on USC football. I don't know. Understood.

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