The Kristian Harloff Show - Wrestlemania 40 Review and Thoughts. Did it live up to the hype?!

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

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It is the WrestleMania 40 kind of recap show. And don't worry, if you're here normally for movie news and that stuff, we're going to cover that as well. But this is a big thing, pop culture is what everybody was talking about over the weekend. And it was a big, huge event. The question is, did it live up to the hype? Now, John saw some of my, well, I think I did some of my rank but I and John I saw John's tweets and so I kind of have an idea of what he thought overall but I want to get it straight from the horse's mouth when I talked to John Roker today about his thoughts on it how did it work did the results I will say this and I'll make this point to John as well I think that most of the matches were predictable and that you knew who's going to win but that

doesn't necessarily mean it was a bad thing a lot of times when you watch MMA fights or you watch boxing matches you think oh that person's going to win and they do the question is, did it deliver in a way that you, by the time you got to that result, you're like, oh, I'm pretty satisfied. So we'll get into that. Speaking of movie news, we got heat two. There's some rumors that it was heating up, if you will. Well, Michael Mann says, maybe not as quick as you think.

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Today we do a live show. So you guys can ask all your questions that you want. We do the super chats. the way it works is John and I will go over the topics of the day and at the very end we will get to your topics. So without any further ado, let's talk about WrestleMania. Let's talk about some things. Let's do it. It's me.

It's Roka. Here we go. How's it going, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. Apple podcast, Spotify, Anywhere Podcasts are found. You can listen to us on audio as we get into this. It's the WrestleMania recap show. And joining me, as always, every Monday here, John Roker.

What's up, John? What's up, man? If you spell. what's up man i'm uh very excited to be joining you for this uh particular monday show thanks to everybody uh for accepting me not being here last week uh but i am back full force for today and i'm looking forward to it brother a lot to talk about wrestling wise and entertainment wise so my my little one was really mad at me yesterday why well because we watched all russomania night one was she you know she was she's she's little so she had to get she's six and a half so yeah my wife was like she can't watch

this whole thing tonight my daughter goes my daughter's favorite thing to say is either on one condition or I'll make you a deal. That's what she says. Wow. And so she goes, I'll make you a deal. And so when my wife who likes to, you know, was with the kids and doing a lot of stuff during the week and trying to get us ready for this moving and she's exhausted. So the weekends, she sleeps in.

So my daughter knows that. And so she's like, before mama wakes up, I'm going to watch the rest of night one. And I was like, okay, fine. So she watched a lot of it, though, by the way, during night one. So we finished up. Good. What do we finish? We finished up Sammy and Gunther, which we'll talk about.

Then we watched the main match together, the Rock and Roman versus Cody and Seth. So we're all planned out to watch night two, and I'm sitting there with my wife, we're going over some stuff, and it's like 3.30, and my buddy writes me, and he goes, hey, I got an extra ticket to Bruce Springsteen tonight. Oh! You want to go? And I was like, come on. I'm like and I know and my and he gets really good.

We had great seats like great seats. So I went my, my daughter's like, what's going on? So we didn't have a care. You're going to take the boss over the final boss? Yeah. What is wrong with you?

Oh, I had to. I had to do. So you're going to have to help me out with night too because I've seen. I watched I watched the heavyweight championship match before I left. I watched some of the Philadelphia Street match. I watched the Logan Paul, U.S. title match and then I watched the main event for sure I watched a majority of the Bailey

thing so I watched a majority of it I think what am I missing you pretty much watch the whole thing yeah I watched a lot of it so five matches that night there was okay so that's what it was so yeah okay let's let's let's get into overall what were your overall thoughts of the entire event nights one and two collectively I think night two absolutely blew night one out of the water Night two head up. Just the more interesting emotional matches. And the crowd was more into night two than they were night one. And I think that's because of the level of quality of wrestling.

And that opening match, when you had Rollins losing to McIntyre and then McIntyre going after Punk and then Punk turning the tables on McIntyre, Damien Preece coming out, that announced the night. The night was going to be all hell is going to break loose. You'd have no idea what's going to happen. but it's going to entertain the hell out of you. So to me, night two, all the way across the board destroyed night one. Night one, the crowd was kind of not into it.

The matches weren't that great. Even though Becky and Rio was nice and then the final match was nice, it just didn't have that electricity. Night two had that electricity. And Christian, Sunday night is where it's at. That's what people are conditioned. They're relaxed. They're about to go to work the next day, so they want to blow it the fuck out.

And so to me, I always think night two is always better than night one. The crowd just is more into it because they want to blow it out one more time. before they head back to work, man. It's funny you said that. I thought night one was better last year than, really? Okay. Last year than night two.

If you go back and you look at it, I think you agree too when you look at it if you go overall. But this year, I'm not going to argue with the points because I, I completely agree with you that the crowd was way more. The crowd was a dud on Saturday. And I think they were a dud because it was cold. It was like really cold.

I don't know if I buy that, man. Because, I mean, people go to these NFL stadiums, when it's cold and they yell their fucking nuts off. I think I had something to do with it. I, because it were really good matches. Yeah, it were really good matches. And I think like I ranked to me it was Ria and Becky started it off.

And I thought a really good match. Good beginning. And as I said in the intro, there were no surprises of who won. Like everybody, it was pretty predictable, but that's not a bad thing. The question is, is it predictable? It's okay to be predictable if you're telling your story this way. Right. And your story, if I'm entertained by your story, and that's what they did.

They entertain me with their stories. I don't, I mean, that I also was predicting it in the predictability of it all because I also was hoping that that would be like the best outcome. I'm so glad Logan Paul won. Yeah. You're bringing legitimacy to that U.S. title again. Yep. Yep.

And you're building him. You're building him. And he's in, because they don't, those guys didn't need to go over. Orton and Owens are so tough, too, the fact that he's willing to take the beating. Yeah. But on top helps him out a lot. Totally. So Knight's who I can see what you're saying is where I could see the only and we'll jump. We're going to kind of jump back and forth on this. And I think with the main event itself, and obviously if anybody is watching this, if you haven't watched the last, the last, the rest of Maine, then you're going to be spoiled, obviously. So the only thing that I didn't like about the main event, which is not their fault because they just couldn't get the deal done, the Undertaker made no sense.

made no sense for the Undertaker to be there. Yeah. Stone Cold was supposed to be. 100% obviously. It was supposed to be him. Sina has beef with the Uso. Sina has beef with the rock, the character obviously. And Stone Cold had beef with the rock.

So Stone Cold showing up, that was it. The Undertaker was behind the scenes. And they're like, hey, we can't get this thing done with Stone Cold. We show up. And he's the biggest company player that you're ever going to get. He's the biggest locker room leader you ever had. And he's like, sure, I'll do it. And he's going to get the pop because it's the wrestling.

a moment, but it made no sense for him to be there. Absolutely no sense. But small gripe, small gripe for otherwise really, really good match. Yeah, I was surprised by it as well. I kept predicting it was going to be Stone Cold. And I don't know how they don't get a deal, John, done. I mean, homie is hosting a podcast on their fucking airwaves. I don't know what Stone Cold would have asked for.

Maybe he's like, I can't do a stunner again. Like, because maybe in that match with Owens, he really did injure himself. It took a while. He posted videos of himself working out recently. I don't understand what he would have asked for that they couldn't have met him on because Triple H seemed to be able to meet everything else, like getting Bubba Ray, which I thought was a phenomenal surprise,

getting Snoop. No way Snoop's coming in cheap. So what is Stone Cold asking for that you can, so I'm just curious if they're ever going to reveal with the behind things. He might not want to do it. He looked. He looked old last year. Kevin Owens.

I mean, you know who looked old. Cina running down that ramp looked old. Let's be real. He did, but he still be able, he still could move. Yeah, no, 100%. But Stone Cold looks older. So maybe he was like, you know, and you look at the rock who at 52, he looks slower.

Yeah. Still is performing at an amazing level. He's probably, I don't want to do that. It's just it's not because if he, because Stone Cold is all about that moment. Stone Cold is all about the moment and he doesn't want to ruin that moment. And maybe he thought that he was going to do it because with the undertaker, he's slow, but he's big. All you got to have them do is pick him up, choke him.

slam them. Disappear off the side of the ring. I get the logic because he's Mr. WrestleMania Undertaker, so it makes sense. But I tell you who else they could have gotten if they couldn't gotten Stone Cold? McFoly. I mean, the rock and sock connection.

Have you seen, have you seen McFoly? No, is he? Is he barely walking? No, he does these. He's, he's, he's good. He's good. He reviews, like, he reviews the matches on his couch.

He's not over there. Isn't that ramp? Come on. on. Nick, Nick, Nick's done his time. Fair enough. It would just be nice to him to do Sacco in his mouth and take him up. Of course. That would have been great. But I am going to use this moment to pat myself

and you on the back. Okay. Because for those people in this chat and other people let's do it. Who keep saying and now we kept saying, see, this whole thing, it was planned from the beginning. It was planned from the beginning. They knew exactly what they were doing and they didn't

pivot. Well, then why are they doing a documentary about the pivot? And they're doing this whole thing that Triple H talked about. And God bless them. And this is why this company is starting to move upward because they look at the things. And instead of doing stubborn stuff that they would have done years ago, they go, no, no, no, no. This ain't working. Let's pivot and let's do it.

And Triple H did this whole thing. He said this whole thing. He said, yeah, we had the plan. We had this thing. We were going to do rock and Roman. And we realized we can't do this. So we moved. And you're doing a whole thing on YouTube.

I think it drops today on YouTube about how this was a pivot. So I love our Shay, Jack. but he's wrong. Yeah. And so all the people who were saying that this was a, this was an absolute work. No, it wasn't, but they pivoted and made it an absolute great work. Yeah, and that's what you trust with the people you bring in, right? Look, did the rock need to be a part of this anymore after they pivoted? Yes, for night one, maybe popping in for night two, but all the stuff they predicted for the rock in night two that he would turn on Roman and they would set up Summer Slam. None of that happened, right? It was just a matter of the rock wanted to come to a place

that kind of lick his wounds after the Black Adam situation and other things. You're canceling Young Rock, the UFL, XFL coming. So why not? Let's go back home. Let's get a little stroke. Let's get a little re-energized. Let's go back.

The man is a worldwide global superstar, all right? So a little stumble ain't going to hurt him. They had to adjust because I don't think they quantified how much the fans were upset at the Rock going Hollywood and then they saw him fail and they're like, oh, don't come running back here, man. You know, like those pop stars, while of a sudden discover their country roots

when there's pop shit doesn't sell it. anymore. It was the same shit. So I'm like, okay, great. But they made it work. They pivoted. They adjusted and they made it work. And that's the big hallmark coming out of this WrestleMania is, as you said, Christian and I loved Cody Call in Triple H down. It's basically saying we've got a whole other world that we're operating in. And yes, a lot of you might be upset that there's still people who are connected to events like Bruce Pritcher getting the shine here. But we are moving forward. So trust us. We're going to make adjustments. We're going to think on the fly. We're going to take care of you as fans. And you're going to enjoy.

the product we put together. And I think coming out of it, it was nice to them to say that we did pivot. And yes, O'Shea Jackson Jr., not trying to cover his ass with that tweet saying, oh, my Twitter, he'll heel persona. Fuck off, man. Take the L and move on and we'll all be okay. We're all wrestling fans.

So give me a fucking break. And now he says he wants to watch you as far as tell me. I will. I will. I like him. I like him too. I think he was wrong, but he was wrong. The other thing you know, that I love, you mentioned that when Cody started calling people,

it was like the, it felt like a Super Bowl when the champions, there was this presentation and they should, they would have never done anything like that when Vince was there. 100%. Never. It really pulled back the curtain a little bit, but not enough to go,

whoa, whoa, enough to where you're like, oh, this is pretty cool, man. They're like, they're really putting the chips in on this, on this guy. And the company likes them, the audience likes them.

And this is a celebration in general, of how what they did and where the company's at. And it also showcased the locker room atmosphere right now. You see all this stuff of how like this. It's not like this kind of grueling thing. I mean, dude, see him punk was in the ring, smiling and laughing and, I mean, this is a guy that was taking dumps on WWE every five seconds he had a chance to.

And now he is, he's, he's, this dude's a company man now. You hear him talking about that? He's like he wants to be, did you hear him on, did you listen to the Ariel Hoamie? Great interview. Great interview. Such a good interview.

And he was, he was talking about how, what's in the future, past wrestling. You know, what's, is the booker in him. I thought it was so great to hear that.

It's because Triple H is really putting on this, this atmosphere right now that they are in a different, they're in a different level right now. Yeah. I don't know about you, Christian, but to me, when he won the title and they started picking him up,

it brought to mind, McFoli winning the title, and they carried him around the ring. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when Hogan won the title, and Andre the Giants sprayed him with champagne in the back, back in the 1980s, having the boys around him,

giving the handshake, giving him love, because essentially blessing him as the top baby face. So I thought that was so brilliant to do that, and it was really moving. And I'll tell you something else, which I think he's really smart about professional wrestling. It also lays the groundwork for if you ever want to go

with the Cody versus corporation angle, with Triple H and all that's going like, do you think I forgot about you? using the sledgehammer on my throne just because you won that title. And Seth is going to turn on him as well, and you know they have a strong connection. So not only did you satisfy the fans in that way,

you also laid groundwork for stuff down the road. You know what I liked and didn't like at the same time? Yeah. When Seth lost the title to Drew, and he had this emotion in his eyes. Love that. Yeah, yeah. He hated when he looked at Drew and said,

you deserve this man. Yeah. Why? like behind the scenes sure you're in wearing we're in character here yeah like is it you deserve this man why this this is a guy that's been interfering in all your matches and yeah taking shots at you and why why does he deserve this he's he's been he's been cheating to win to get here it's like the emotion was real i don't know if it was a real moment or not but um but it was something like i thought set rawlins oh my god was fantastic this weekend he's all the yeah he's the

the fact that he took two Ls on WrestleMania weekend and still came out of it as like the hidden jewel of the whole weekend speaks volumes to the guy and the love people have for that guy and the love he has for the business man. It was incredible. And he's another one who's been building up his character and building up in a way as opposed to like that stupid thing that he did with Vince McMahon in his office

like when he was trying to find him in it before that Cody reveal whatever to do is it's stupid dumb thing. I couldn't stand it. And he really has evolved and people are getting behind him and that, you know, the song obviously has put him over in ways that it's just just the connection with the crowd. But the other thing that I thought worked well that from night one was that Sammy and Gunther match. Oh, God. Yeah. I'm a big Gunther fan. I think that in the same way the honky talk man, by the way, we don't have to address this whole way through, but this is my favorite thing when I see this.

Someone was like, wrestling is fake. So is stranger things. Star Wars. Yeah. So any movie that you've seen, they're not really in space with lightsabers. Hey, hey,

Jedi are real. Jedi are real. Yeah. So, right. So this one pop in when you're talking about, King Kong, King Kong's not real.

King Kong is not real. It's not really. Really? There's no big, there's no big, oh, no Godzilla's not here. There's no past.

It's silly. Um, anyway. So, I just want to make that. I love that point. Absolutely. It's so dumb.

It's so fucking stupid. It's like, yeah, it's a show. Any show that you watch is not three body problem, not real. It's all scripted. Stuff happens ahead of time. They talk about it. It's all scripted. Anyway, but that's Sammy and Gunn, I love Gunther.

I really do. I love, and so I was hoping, I was hoping that he was going to win. Gunther. Yes. Yeah. Because I wanted to see him carry that,

but I wanted to see, because when he fights Cody soon, yeah, SummerSlam. He and beating Cody. And you want to see him get a run. I would have liked to see him get that run, I think, because I would have been, you go like, oh, no, well, obviously Cody's going to win.

But Cody beating Gunther while Gunther was still Intercontinental Champion and beating him. And you're going, well, it's not for the I.C. title. It was just for the, and that loss did come. And now it's, now it's weighing over him. But I get why they did it. They said it, they mean, completely intentionally ripped off the Rocky 3 storyline. Oh, totally. And now you can have him and Chad Gable kind of, you know, having their thing.

It's friend versus friend. But like that silly thing that they did with the montage with the music, the Rocky Three thing and all that. And Chad Gable, I know people love him. Not a great actor. Yeah. Not a great actor. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. He's funny, but not a great.

Sammy's, yeah, it's tough to love to Sammy. Gabe. Gable's funny when it was, but like, but he's like, you know, it's the wrestling actor. It's like, you can see. there's certain guys that just have it and certain guys that don't and there's certain guys are just delivered in one way and that's kind of what gable is but like but sammy is natural and by and that's what he did so well in that is that even though i felt he was going to win because the reason why i thought he was going to win is because they did what they he's got almost like this

they can't do this every year with him but but the last two years that's almost what the undertaker had with the streak he's been the guy to knock off the impossible he beat the uso's last year yeah yeah yeah i was like yeah the fact that they're going to just too this is what but they're building this story up and they're really, the way that they're kind of, people love Sammy, even though they turned on him for like that split second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because they felt like it you didn't need it. He's just too damn likable.

Yeah. My only complaint about that whole thing was that I wish his wife was as good of an actor as he was, because we could have had the Adrian moments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe the red hat or something, but she seemed to just be reacting in the same way, the whole, the whole match, whether he was winning or losing. So I just would have liked to have seen a little bit more from her if they were going to, Because, I mean, that's why Booker T works so well with Charmel.

I mean, she's so good at it, you know. Yes. It was great to see them when they do it. So I was hoping for that. But other than that, I was surprised, too. I thought for sure Gunther was going to win because I didn't think Sammy was quite at that point yet. I thought Chad Gable was going to come down and interfere and cost accidentally cost Sammy the shot of the title. Then they were going to go on a program.

But I just feels, I'm happy for Sammy, but I don't know necessarily that I think it was the right decision. And we'll see down the road how the booking goes. for both Gunther and Sammy to see if it was the right decision or not. You've got to push him towards that main event level. Oh, 100%. Yeah, because look, didn't he already beat up Damien Priest? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right. So, like, and he still has this thing with Judgment Day. So you can push him in that, in that direction. But you also can't take away the title that fast from Damien Priest, right? No, no. I think you got to, I think you got to keep the titles on these guys. And that's the other thing that they've done well. They've given.

when I was tuning into WWE after I rediscovered it again through when I was watching the Shmowdown and I was watching it was like it seemed like the titles would change place, change hands every other Thursday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, okay,

what is happening here? There's no validity to these championships. You don't really care about them. But Roman held it, made that title. And it looks like that that's only going to be one title anymore. Not going to split up the universal. No.

Yeah, and I disagree with Ryan Satin. 100% I think splitting up the damn tag team titles is ridiculous I hate that they do that I hate oh wow I'm champions raw champions it's a freaking it's a company it's not a show championship it's a company championship the raw champions a smackdown chain what happens if they decide tomorrow they're going to call it's a different show or we're now we're going to call it the uh you know the orange wall championship it's stupid all the team's championship one championship that's it's it i love that it was an undisputed title hate hate the brand championships ridiculous um but but nonetheless you have them hold on long enough and it gives gliddity to it now I guess the argument can be

well Drew McIntyre lost it that quick yeah but that's because he was beaten up beating down his hubris with punk gotten away and then he they finally cashed in that title and there you go I think that's what McIntyre did and you have to look you know you have to pull the curtain back a little bit McIntyre's willing look first of all the feud with punk has absolutely revitalized McIntyre. Chris and I have talked about this on text. Like, I'm not the biggest McIntyre fan when he's face. And I've always felt there's something missing.

Even when he was championed during COVID and all of that, he didn't feel like 100% he was the right guy, the face, right, to carry the company. He did a great job during that time, no doubt. But then this moment happens. And to me, when he started going after punk, he has become a whole other person. It's like Becky Lynch going next level with her social media game.

I thought it was genius. so that when he went at punk, they did it so well that you really thought this was McIntyre like crossing a line with Punk when he was looking at it, when he was staring and saying all the things, I want you to remember this.

Take a picture of me. I want to put this on my wall and then he turns his back on Punk and punk flips him. Punk takes care of him. Pump blows a kiss to his wife. It was genius and then he loses the belt to Damien Pree. So McIntyre being willing to go into this program

and do all of these things. and then take the loss after signing a new contract. Shout out to him for doing this because him and punk are going to tear down the fucking walls. Yes, as long as punk can stay healthy. Yeah, at some point. Yeah, but the social media game between them is going to be next level. The promos are going to be great.

The lead up is going to be great. Drew McIntyre is a much better heel. I couldn't agree with you more. He's so much better. I was, because as we'd always talk about, your co-host, Aaron, who always talked about how Drew McIntyre was a big star. And I was like, I don't know who you're talking about because this guy is boring.

He is like they're trying to push him as this baby face. It's not working. He ain't cool. Not working. Yeah. People weren't over on him as much. No. And when he was going to retire or leave, I was like, okay, he's a reason why he's not getting it done.

And then he switched into this kind of troll persona and with the with the stuff he's doing on social media and it worked for him that punk got hurt because he used that. Yeah. And he's been brilliant. He's been a brilliant heel, and he's one of the big stars of the company now because then it just shows you how this, like what you can do. Rock is the biggest example of it. Rocky Maya Via into the tassels and all this stuff and doing what he's going to do.

And you're like, that guy's never going to. If that was today, social media would have laughed them off the internet, right? And he comes back and he's one of the greatest of all time. And that's the type of things that can happen, especially with the programs that they're going to have, like you mentioned with him and CM Punk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be really good. It's going to be really good.

And I'm curious to how they're going to play with that because I thought that they would lead that to the heavyweight championship match. But now, clearly they're not. So, yeah, it'll lead to SummerSlam. Punk will be back by SummerSlam, I think, for sure. Yeah. If he can stay healthy, I really hope he does. I hope so, too, man.

He's one of my favorites. He really is. 100%. He's another guy that I remember when I was out of wrestling for a little bit and Ken was watching a lot and you tell me about him. I'm, I don't know about this guy. I don't care. But I just also wasn't watching it.

And then we had the opportunity to interview him a couple times. And then we watched him on just on the mic. He's just so good on the mic. He's just natural. And I love the way he blurs the lines. I love his approach to the business in general. And I'm glad that he's doing what he's doing. Me too, man.

I like him. And I know, and I don't know if you want to talk on this either. But I think Tony Khan is going to make the stupidest mistake of his life this week. Someone actually super chatted that. I just saw it. Okay. So we'll address that.

We'll leave it back. But I'm with you on punk. I love punk. Always love punk. You know me, brother. I love the guys who blur the lines as I used to do with my promo sometimes, which piss some people off in the Shmodeon.

But I think that's the best way to get fans involved, to get fans like going, is it real? Is it not real? Yeah, like with me and bibs, there was always that shit between us. And it worked and people were excited to see the battles.

It's true. That's effective, man, you know? It's true. It is one of those things that you're, I mean, it's the fight business. Yeah. You're going to sell it.

And I saw someone in the comment section say this, and I noticed this is Walt too, and I love it. There was a dumb, stupid, moronic, idiotic, foolish rule about never mentioning the word wrestling in the ring. Stupid, dumb. It's gone now. They mentioned wrestling. They treated like a sport again. And you're doing this thing like clearly, it's like you're treating it like a sport. You're doing this because the lines are completely blurred because even they're calling.

now they're calling themselves, the Uso's were calling themselves by their real names in the promo that they were doing, right? Roman Raines is kicking reporters out of the press conference. Is it real? We don't know. Chris Van Bleed. Your boy, Van Bleet got called out. Got murdered by Paul Heyman.

Murdered. Hilarious. Poor Chris. Yeah, he was laughing about it. He probably loved it. He loved it. But yeah, murdered by both of them. And then the woman gets kicked out of the department.

So there was a lot of great stuff. stuff going on and they're playing with the lines and they're doing these things in the same way that we said they're blurring the lines at the very end where they're Cody's hugging cameraman this is when I said that he's a politician yeah and people would say well politician that's a bad thing I didn't say what kind of politician he was right like being a like there are a lot of crappy politicians there's a lot of good politicians too and the and the politicians that actually want to get things done and know how to you know present themselves and say a lot of people and talk to people and recognize everybody in the room that's what he does and he does it well he's like you know because like if i said he's like the governor like when scott manse is a is a friend when he walked into a screening room he's like the governor of that room oh yeah and he knows everybody and he's and you say he's the governor and you're like oh yeah

he's the governor of the he's the mayor of the room but if you say he's a politician i go whoa what the fuck to pick a mayor and a governor is so that's that's what i thought he did well but we got more we got way more to talk about with the overall uh card itself and other things that we made a things that popped in i want to talk about that the the jade cargill of it all as well too before we do i want to get to you to guys real quick and tell you each every week i it's so weird like to every weekend i get these dms that people tell me uh that they are getting the sponsors and i love that but it's never during the week so we're certainly weekend uh so let me tell you guys about both rhone and vesey which you know i love my vessies uh but here you go all right i love getting you guys

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and I'm selling, I'm selling like 40 hardcore, hardcover Star, Star Wars books, like, like the High Republic series, the Thrawn series, like all that stuff.

I have a, if people want to go check the, actually it wasn't Twitter, it was Instagram and, and Facebook. Okay. So if people head on over to Facebook, if they're interested in that,

they can go check it out. But then the other thing is people are saying, you've got to start a wish list. And we're going to start a wish list. So we're going to do wish list for, for the actual new studio in New York. I sent you kind of the layout

of it. I think it's going to be pretty good. Brett and I are going to set it up in a couple months and it's going to be pretty good. Are you allowed to say where in New York you're at? Or is it off my comment? We'll have an off-mic conversation. Yeah, I'd rather than not. Because lady out wants to know where you're because she lived in New York for three years and she wants to know where

exactly and find out like, I'll tell you off here. I'll tell you off here. I mean, obviously once you guys come in or even, I'm going to going to have people come in and, and do stuff inside of the studio itself. Matt Sarah is going to do a show with me weekly. So it's going to be good. Yeah. So it's going to be good. Okay. So let's keep continuing on with the with WrestleMania. Yeah. And I want to see like because I still feel even though it was a really good match.

I always, I feel like Bailey was kind of overshadowed again. Um, with, you know, because like, yeah, I like Bailey. But she's just not, doesn't have the star power as like Becky and Ria. I think we're going to see what she does with the title. This is, you know, it was time for to win it. She did great work, getting damage control over. She took so many Ls for so long through the last year and a half, just like Becky did, before Becky made that jump after she turned heel against Charlotte.

So now she gets the title. Now it's like, okay, now you got what you want. You worked for it. You got it again. Let's see what you do with it. What kind of epic run are you going to go on? Because this is what's going to decide, I think, where Bailey goes. Because she's a lifer.

people are always going to love her i don't think bailey's going to become an actress anytime soon this is what she loves she lives and breathes wrestling yes so what are you going to do with this now's your opportunity eo was kind of a boring champion the run wasn't that great so now you've got the veil back all right and i thought the match was okay not great she was fine but it just didn't have electricity yeah it didn't now what's next that's what i it was funny though too because i when they released the the actual list matches i thought the way they released them was how the card was going to go And then they open with Becky and Rio. I'm like, really?

We're going to open with that because it was such a big match. And I was like, it makes sense. It makes sense to start the energy with a big match like that. And it puts the pressure on the rest of the card to live up and deliver what the previous match did. And it's the same reason why the heavyweight title match kind of came out there first. By the way, true or false, there was a Schmowdown competitor in the beginning of 19. that you could see if you were looking. I'm going to say true.

Who was? Saul. Saul? What? Saul was there? I was holding one of the swords. He was the first guy on the far right. Get out of here. Like you look at him and you can clearly tell Saul, he's a little guy. And the guy he was talking to is like,

is, you know, it was huge. Saul's like, for people who know Clyder Live, that was Saul. Saul was, Saul was the first guy on the right. I'm sore and I'm like, that's Saul. I know he's training. Yeah,

I know he's training to be a wrestler and at the monster factor I think he's at. And there's, I don't know if there's a Scottish bone in his body. I don't know his heritage, but. I mean, he sounds, he sounds, if you hear him on the phone,

he sounds like he used to be working in a pizzeria. Yes, 100%. But he's, but no, he is, he means pretty damn Irish, or Scottish,

rather when you look at yeah i was watching and i go wait a minute that's that's all so pretty amazing i'm gonna rewind and when we're done i'm put this on and watch you have to you have somebody just send me a screenshot if somebody sends me a screenshot of it during the actual um the broadcast i'll play it for for john and i awesome i'm sure ed harrell is already halfway screen shot it already i just tweeted you guys yeah anyway so i'm trying to think if there's anything that i mean the main event obviously they're from night talk about that yeah yeah the main event one was very well

my two criticisms again very small criticism you can tell again the rock is 51 not 52 but he's 50 and you can tell he's just a little slower but still can perform at an incredible level match was too long it was too long 42 minutes

it was the match 42 minutes but with the intros and everything too yeah no with the intros it was like an hour yeah I mean it's like you look like an hour full that's a full hour And they told the story, but you could have cut 10 minutes out of it, 10 minutes. And, but not enough that it really was dragging. It was just, it was no longer.

But I thought it was, it told the story. It, it, it, it, it, they had to win because you had to have bloodline rules. Otherwise, it would just been a one-on-one match, which a lot of people, Rick Flair would have loved, right? But, but, but, but you, but that's not the story you're telling right now. You're telling the story of who's going to, and that's why I also was very disappointed that they couldn't get the deal done with Stone Cold. Mm-hmm. because it just if there was more to where the rocks started to say that he was the guy that carried it and the people in the past didn't really matter and that there were other people that it did then there's a reason for the undertaker come out like why does it make you show up makes no sense um other than we need a big superstar here besides stone cold who else could we get yeah it's really that's who else do you get goldberg no one care no one no one care who do you get kurt angle maybe that's It wouldn't have been.

It's not the same. And The Undertaker has the wrestling any moment. The only person that would have been better than the Undertaker was Stone Cold and then they couldn't get him. So it is what it is. But night one,

you liked it a lot too, right? I did like that match, yes. And they did a great job of taking care of the Rock. They knew exactly what, because like you said, he's 51 years old. He can't move like he used to. He's gone through and,

you know, you and I both know people. I certainly know people who have worked on sets with the Rock. And they say, like, for all his lifting weights, all the stuff,

that has taken a toll on his body. He doesn't move as limber as he used to. I've interviewed him a couple times. You can see it. His movements sometimes are a little strained. And so that's just how it goes. You get older. It's part of life. So how do you take care of him? You mess the matchup. You send him out into the crowd. You do these, you drag out these spots. You make the spots big. And so, and then you give him his moment with the bionic elbow. Oh, sorry, not the elbow. So the elbow drop. You give him the people's elbow. You gave him a chance with the rock bottom. You give him all these chances so that he can show what he can do. And you get, you take care of him, give him the gaps, give him the brakes, let him catch his breath, all these things, because he was initially a little gassed, and I think they slowed the match

down, and you can tell he slowly got back into the match as things went along. Roman and Cody did their thing. So to me, overall, I thought it was a good match for what it was supposed to do. I didn't feel as long because I enjoyed seeing it, but I understand where people could feel that way like you feel that way. But at the end, they got the job done, and that's what mattered. And the shot of Cody in the ring all like, ah, fuck, now I have to do this again. I thought it was a great ending for it.

Yeah, not enough to ruin it. Right. The only match I thought was a complete dud was the Uso's match. It was a dud. What a, what a phenomenally underwhelming match that, to me, for all their talk, for a year. Last year they talked about it and said, we really want to face each other. We spent our whole lives wanting to face each other in the ring. You get a WrestleMania match and you deliver that nonsense.

I mean, this was, so it was like, it was, they were just kicking each other. And there was nothing to it. And they were trying to this play off the emotion. The problem is, Jay's not bad. Jimmy's not a good actor. Jimmy's not a good. And he's not a good singles wrestler. He's not a good singles wrestler.

Sorry, he's not. And so it just didn't, I just said it on my, on the show with Chris the other day. He's a great henchman. He's a great henchman. Right. Like a single, like, it's just not, he just does this thing. Yeah. It doesn't really do anything.

And it's like, no one. interfered, which I think killed the match. And also, what's solo doing? You were so, and even their moment in the main event, a night two, wasn't that great. Because again, they reverted back to the Superkicks and then he took him off the ramp. Their moment was their moment in that main event. Oh fair point. Better than their match.

Yeah, that's for sure. Way better than their match. It wasn't that great. No, but it was like, it just, it was a dud. It just didn't, it didn't hear. And plus the fact, as we mentioned earlier, the crowd was such a dud as well. That didn't help them at all. and the motion wasn't there.

The motion was that you needed a motion in the same way that Flair and Sean Michaels had. Yeah. But that kind of that kind of relationship, or like Owen Hart and Brett Hart had parties and like, or Cody and Dustin, right? Like that's the type of stuff that you wanted to see in that match. And it's just like, eh.

And then the other match that to me was just okay in that night one was the six, the six woman tag match. but the reason why I liked it is because it showcased Jade, right? Now, she's not good on the mic, right? And I don't think, no, Bianca is that great on the mic either. But I think that there's something because I saw someone go, I don't get it with Jade. Like, Jade's like, why do people love her so much?

She's not good on the mic. She's kind of wouldn't. And she is. But there's a thing about her. She's got like a superhero quality about her, clearly is what she's trying to do. But that will only last for so long. you can beat the piss out of people for only so long. And it could be a year.

It could be two years. Look at Goldberg. Goldberg had a massive run on it. So, but they've got to try to keep working with her because you can, I want to see her versus Ria. I want to make that match down the road. Down the road.

Yeah. Yeah. I did a live watch along for both nights. If anyone's interested to watch four hours of me talking about both of these, but I'm still exhausted from it. But one of the things I said during that match was that, It was a little bit of a let down with the Jade Cargill situation. I'll tell you why.

Look, yes, did they showcase her? Did she look fantastic? But walking around the ring and yelling at fans about like, that's right. That's what I can do. That is fucking useless. Show us what you can actually do in the ring. Her frog splash into the corner. She almost caught both of her feet and tripped into the corner.

So when she was jumping. And so she's still, for all this training, she still can't carry a mouth. effectively and strongly. Well, that's what I put on a six. I'm worried about this. I'm a little worried. I get it. I'm saying,

I'm going to agree with you, and I'll finish my point. You're 100% right. The fan, the W.W. fans are only going to give you so much rope. And then eventually, if you can't,

if you can't get it done, they're going to turn on you. And I think that's, in the end, what might happen to Jade in this whole situation. Unless she can pull it, look, she can pull it out.

Unless she can pull it together. And let's see. But yeah, it was, that match was okay. It was fine. It was fine. Um, but the Ustos was a dud. The Rea versus Becky was awesome.

Probably the second best match of the night. And the only reason it was not the best of the night was, oh, no, no, Samian and Gunther, I think was probably up there too. So I don't know. But those two, the only reason that they don't take the prize off the main event is because the main event had the best story. Yeah. And I look for all that together.

As far as a wrestling match goes, I'd say the best wrestling match was Rea versus Becky, the best wrestling match. Um, and then, you get because what they did with Sammy and the way they built that up, the Rocky story I thought worked well. So all that stuff that they did was pretty good. And the night two the Philadelphia

street match, why wasn't that on Raw? What was that? Yeah, it was a raw smack that match. What saved it was having Snoop on commentary. Snoop was great on commentary. Yes, great. It was like watching an Arnold commentary of his films. It was perfect. Right. It was just like, it was like the Bob Ucker moment. Yeah, basically.

That's what it was. It was fine. I just, I like carrying Cross. I just think that he is being wasted in this storyline. I think he has one more run because they've repackaged him like 30 times since he got there. I think he's got one more run, maybe under Triple H's Toedledge. They'll find the right gimmick for him. Yeah. And I'm sad for street profits.

And I'm sad for AOP. Those are two fantastic tag teams that just can't seem to get to the next fucking level. And it's even more mind-blowing with street profits. I get it with AOP because they're not good on the mic, they can barely, you know, not really good on the mic, and that's why you bring in Paul Ellering. But to me, with the guys, the street profits, this is just fascinating to me that they can't get to that next level

and become one of these legendary tag teams in WWE. That was fine, though. It was a good, it was a fun. It was a good transfer match, you know, to serve a rich match. Sure, but it's just, it's one, it's like the, when the, the, WrestleMania 6th, when the nasty boys fought, whoever the hell they fought. A Republican enemy, yeah.

Yeah, whatever. So who cares? But it just felt like a raw or Smackdown match. It didn't feel like anything else in the same way. So the team's ladders match, by the which we didn't cover for a night. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm surprised. What's the what's the Johnny Gargano team?

Oh, yeah, DIY. Yeah. I'm surprised that they didn't give it to them. That was my prediction. Yeah. And the fact, that was probably the one, as I said earlier, I think that it was predictable. That was the only one I think wasn't predictable.

Our truth. I did not see our truth and freaking Ms. winning titles. It's hilarious. It's more of the kind of reward. for the work to put in for our truth and obviously the work that's been putting in for the other was the Australian guy oh yeah a Grayson Waller grace and yeah yeah and Austin Theory and then and they've been putting the work in too so I get it but I just as I said in the beginning I

cannot stand the brand championships as opposed to the WWE championship and plus those belts are so the silver they're ugly there's no personality to them I agree the Roman centurion helmets those is so weird to me. I'm really hoping because there's been this rumor with Cody back that he's going to bring back the winged eagle championship that I don't know if he's going to do it but I would love to see it. I would love to see that belt come back because I don't like the WWE championships. I like the intercontinental one's not bad, the new one. I don't mind that the new intercontinental belt. The U.S. title is fine. I love the U.S. title. Yeah. So I guess that's the other one that we can talk about is I love what they did this. Didn't they do the same

bit though with the with with the with the energy drink oh yeah yeah yeah with k when k s i was in the same yeah yeah yeah yeah this year he yeah he it worked out for him and and he kind of got the pin fairly clean yes he did kevin owens you know they put him over and then this is the thing with logan and logan and logan is delivering in all these matches and he's winning i think he's winning the respect to the guys in the back because he's willing to take the beatings like kevin owen has beat him Kevin Owens has beat him up a couple of times now, and he takes hard shots. He is not a coward.

He takes all these things. Orton was delivering some brutal shots to him. He takes it all in stride and delivers at the end. I think he's at the respect of the WWFam base. He's now a wrestler, period. Period. He's not a YouTube guy crossing over. He's a fucking wrestler.

Do you know, do you know, I told this to Chris Van Vita the day. I don't know if I've said this. I don't know I said it to you via text. I sent this to you via text. His gimmick is Johnny from Karate. kid yeah basically he's johnny from from the first movie not not kobra kai johnny he is johnny nineteen eighty four yeah and he does it brilliantly the only thing i don't like and i've mentioned this to you before and i don't know if he did it on the way down uh this time i he's like one of the

biggest heels next to dom mysterio which is the other match we didn't talk about but uh but um and and i don't like when logan paul is shaking hands when he walks down the aisle i don't it's like it's maybe it's the old purist in me you know but it's like it's like you're you're the major here and you're going to wind up insulting all these people in two seconds stop shaking their hands it's the new generation man they the cross especially with something like him and he gets away with it uniquely because of that so yeah i hear what you're saying because even rock could totally glad hand people all the way down as he heals but he doesn't do that it's a good point um and then the other one that uh yeah that mysterio match it's like it that to me again felt like

another one you could have seen on raw and smackdown yeah Yeah, all, Dom is already over. I don't know why you do a match like this. And And Andrade, I don't want Andrade to get lost now that he's back. I mean, get him some fucking attention. Andrade's an incredible wrestler. Yeah, he's pretty good. They hope they move away from the storyline for him because it's like, yeah.

He's miles better than Santos. He's fucking miles better than Santa. I agree. So I think that's the majority. I mean, then the actual main event and then Cody winning it needed to happen. You got to put the strap on his shirt. shoulder to give you got to give it a chance to see who your next star is and it's the first like real baby face in a very long time like pure baby face that just knows how to i mean you see him on the

press conferences he's so damn good on with with the crowd with the with the audience in general so um yeah i think that it was a smart move and and the right move yeah um all right so let's see if there's anything before i mean i don't know i think that we can do we'll we'll do one story here cultural rights we'll do uh let's just do the box office real quick the box office this weekend and if anybody else wants to do like in any other particular topic that they want us to talk about they want to throw the question in there and throw your questions in still because we're going to we're going to get into that in just a second you can get into all the questions but the latest weekend

this is from the fifth to the seventh you had coming in at number five yeah kung fu panda four right and then seven point nine one two three four four yeah okay so that was 7.9 million uh for a grand total thus far uh 410 million worldwide not bad not too bad okay uh the first omen yeah that was 17 million total worldwide on 8.4 domestic opening ghostbusters frozen empire nine million thus far with a worldwide of 138 and then you got monkey man which i loved and doesn't and it just didn't do that you just didn't do that great. 12 million worldwide so far, 10 million

for opening weekend, it's fine, and then Godzilla and Kong, big drop-off, but still 31.7 for the weekend, taking it to about 361. So, what stands out, John? The Monkey Man thing was super depressing to see because that film

is so fucking good, and Dev Patel put so much of himself into making that film, and Jordan Peel, giving it the stroke as a producer on the film, I thought was enough to get people into the theater. And the fact that people didn't go, I think was a shame, you know. And I did my out of theater reaction.

I thought it was going to do really well. Barely did anything. And that broke my heart. Yeah, my too. It's not a lot of interest in it. And I don't know if that's the marketing also or what it was, but it's, yeah, it's a good, it's a really good action movie. It was funny because I saw it with Winston.

Yeah. Winston didn't love it. Oh, really? You know, I didn't love it. And I try to keep a solid, it's so funny. someone watched it, a friend of mine was watching it and paused it on Winston's. Because the whole time Winston was talking, I was just kind of like this. And then he was like, oh, I'm surprised you didn't like it.

I clearly didn't watch the reaction. He said, well, I stopped it after, you know, I paused it during Winston's thing. And I go, keep watching. And then Winston goes and he's like, well, what do you think? And I go, I love this movie. I thought it was great. But the thing that stands out is, is, yeah, that one, 10 million. I don't know what the budget was overall, but the kind of budget, like,

It was the budget was 10. It was 10. So I don't know. I mean, it's got, it's got competition coming out this week with Civil War. Yeah, it's done. Like, this was the time to strike. And I don't know if it's going to, I don't think it's going to have legs. I don't think people are going to be like, oh, I've got to go see this thing.

Yeah. And I also think the mistake was that it's two hours, bro. I think if it had been an hour and 40 or hour and 45, but it's, but it's a story. It's an actually, I don't disagree. It's great. But it has people beating the crap out of each other. That's the thing. It's an actual story with good lore behind it.

So you needed it to be that. I'm not against longer movies. And that's still two hours, it's not a long movie. But I'm not against two longer movies if they're telling me a story. If it's just gratuitous, like, look at the match we just talked about, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pull it back for 10 minutes and just keep telling me the story.

So I have no problem that it was two hours. I'm saying people may have looked at it being two hours and be like, maybe, I don't want to go. Yeah. Maybe. But, I mean, but movies now, what movies are an hour and a half these days? hardly any venom that's true

for good reason yeah so that's put your thoughts in there guys tell me what you think if this is something that you know you did you see it did you not see it judging on the numbers you probably didn't see it what are you looking forward to I know we got some war coming up and I guess cinema con by the way is another one

that just today you and I were both supposed to be there we just didn't work out for us both to to go overall but we but the only thing that kind of came out, the only, the one thing that did come out of CinemaCon that I saw was the new, there's this, Gladiator 2, this was just posted.

Are you liking this? Gladiator 2? I mean, I don't know yet. I got to see a trailer. Maybe, I feel like a trailer is going to come out this weekend, right? No, I'm saying, I don't like the,

I don't like the name. Gladiator 2. Give me something else. No, because you know what it is. It's going to, gladiator, too, get me in the theater. Get me in the theater. As opposed to Bumblebee.

What's that? No, I mean, I want to be like Gladiator Cuavitis or Gladiator Something, that's what I mean Gladiator 2 is so boring Whatever, I know it's the second one I'm going to See, but let's see We're going to see it will be

We'll be waiting Before we get to your questions, someone did actually send this to me Yeah, there he is Look at him, he's huge now Saul, isn't that great? He looks like Brendan Gleason and fucking Braveheart, look at this guy He really does, isn't that amazing? You get dressed up for nothing?

I was trying to think. I know that he, didn't he, I can't remember, and he's going to wind up texting me because I can't remember. I can't remember many Schmodan results anymore. I used to know them. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I know that Amaru beat him, and I feel like he beat Amaru in the return.

I feel like they, I feel like they split. I feel like that's what happened. And people will tell me in the comments if that's correct or not. I was like, there was a big upset, and I feel like it was Saul over Amaru in the rematch. I feel like that's what happened. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong.

Anyway, before we move on, I did go to that concert last night, as I said. And before I went out, John, like I knew I was going to have a couple beers, even with $50 beers or whatever,

but standing on the pizza line with Tofer Grace. How about that? Hey, how is Tofer? How's he doing? I didn't talk to me. I didn't bother it. But what I will say is I took a Z biotic before I went out,

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And what's also amazing is even before we even went live, people were throwing in super chats, John, and the way it works is John and I, we've covered our topics today. And if there is something, I know that maybe, you know, today was very obviously wrestling heavy and everything that we covered. So if there are certain topics that you wanted to hear us talk about and we didn't, please, by all means, throw it in there. And you can do it until the very end, until we sign off. That's when we're here. So don't feel like, oh, they're starting to take questions now.

I can't put them in. Sure, you can throw them in there. And we're going to start with Hank Pim. Sam Funk and Drew are cooking. Also, still not sure why people think Jade's a star. She's atrocious on the mic and can't actually wrestle. Been signed for eight months and still not a singles match. Yeah, I mean, that's what John was saying, right?

John was saying that there's there's something there that they, but it goes back to the smarts of them. Let's put her in a, let's put her in a six tag to start and we protect her. And then we keep working. And by the time it's ready, you know, eight months in, she should be good to go. But you're right. She only has, she's got a shelf life. She's got a shelf life.

So unless she can, unless she can really pull it together. But even in the press conference, it's, yeah, it's like, you. using it's trying to use your actual character and it's not as easy to say look what c m punk does right but look what sam punk does and like he uses and drew's doing it too now and so set they're using what they really do in real life and their personality and they're putting it into their promos and i feel like there's some wrestlers like whether it's a gable or or a bianca they come up with these personas and it's like that doesn't feel real and you're delivering these lines like you're you're like it's just like not good acting and i don't buy i don't buy you and jade's definitely

going to land in that unless she can kind of pull it together yeah yeah agree yeah it's not much more to add to that i think you're 100% right so yeah okay um tank then what was the last w-dwee show that you guys attended john what was yours didn't we go we went for a collider night a bunch of us went i think that was the last time i went was the last time that you went yeah at the at the staple center i remember you didn't go to ressomania last year you didn't go to WrestleMania last year, huh? No, I have never been to a WrestleMania. Oh, wow. Yeah. So at some point I will go before I kick the bucket, but I do, we'll see when

that will happen. I've been to two WrestleManias. Oh, that's awesome. I went to WrestleMania 2 and then I went to WrestleMania 17. Yeah. Those are the two that I went to. I have a friend who works for their reality division, like tough enough and all that stuff and he texted me and he's like, bro, I can get you into night one and you'll be like 10 rows away from the ring. And And I was like, I don't want to be there for night one. I want to be there for night two. Wow.

I was like, if you can't give you tickets to both, I'm not going. Are you crazy? No, because like the expense of the flight, the expensive hotels, especially the WrestleMania weekend in Philadelphia, I'd probably have to be like 30 minutes away. I thought you missed last year. That makes sense. No, no, no.

No, no. I would have gone. I'm serious. But you still would have been, you would have had great seats. Yeah. But the last time I went, I actually think I was with, Ryan satin. Oh, that's Smackdown at the,

what's the end of the state is still Staples Center? I don't know what's called anymore. But that's, that's where it was. It was last time. And that was probably 20, either 2018 or 2019. No, no,

that's not true. That's not true. The last time I was there was Jeff Dye. When Jeff Dye was dating Becky Lynch, I went with, I went with him to Smackdown because he had gotten the, she'd given, given him tickets and he asked me if I wanted to go.

So I went with, I went with him. nice and that was the last time I went yes that's right now was probably the same time like 2019 or Jeff Jeff's doing all right let's see so Carlton rudder if you had to remake one of these 80s classic comedies which one would it be the breakfast club Ferris Bueller's Day Off or the Princess Fride oh man um how about you I think I'd have to go Ferris Bueller's Day off just because that's such a revered one and you can actually play with that

and get some of the new actors and see what you can do with something like that. So there's a lot more fun to be had in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, which I think could be, there's a lot of great new young actors coming in. It'd be a lot of fun to do that with. You could, I wouldn't remake any one of them,

but if you... I agree. Yeah, if you had to, I would put Ferris Bueller's and the Breakfast Club as the only two you can really try to attempt. Yeah. You can't need the Princess Bride. It's like, I know it's based off a book

you done but it's like that's going to be so hard to recreate that magic in that tone the rob riner to yeah it's just going to be too hard all right next one this is from benny bennie screw you since the film was done wrong what do you think what do you guys think of uncharted getting remade as a series instead of a film since there's so much story to tell i that's what i want i i they won't happen because the first one did well yeah they're doing a sequel i know um i wish that they would have done this as a series. I wish, but do you think, yeah, is there any chance that gets remade as a series? No,

if it does, because we're seeing the Harry Potter series, and I never thought that would be remade at all, let alone as a series. So I think it's possible down the road, but you would have never gotten Tom Holland to do it if you would have got to do a series. It's not where he's at as an actor. So maybe down,

maybe if the sequel falls apart and doesn't do well, then you got a possibility of doing a series, but it'll take a bit. Yeah, all right. Um, mild man at comic nerd. Hey guys, let me ask you this. On Friday's awards, how does it go to celebrating Muhammad Ali? It's the Hall of Fame thing to rock getting a belt.

You can buy it at a WWE store from Ali's wife. To me, it felt disrespectful. Am I alone here on Hayward Island? Thanks. How do you feel about this, John? I hated it. I look. You want to run.

I know Christian goes, Christian calls me a turncoat. And so here we go. Turncoat. I hated it. It was all about the Rock's ego, getting that fucking people's champion belt. because he wanted to walk into WrestleMania with a championship belt. I hated it that it was Ali and all that. I just hated that he got to shine off Ali.

Like he doesn't need it, but this was all about the rock. And in the end, look, yes, they adjusted. Yes, they pivoted, but the weekend was still all about the rock. So he got what he wanted. And the numbers back it up. By the way, he was right. Millions and the numbers were sky high. And you can't deny that the rock was a massive reason for that.

So did I like it? No. Did I like him talking shit to Cody while he was wearing the Ali belt? No. But, you know, they do what they want to do. And it's a whole other stratosphere that I don't understand. I've never been around. So maybe I'm misreading the whole thing.

I just didn't like it. Pivot. I think, yeah, it didn't bother me. It didn't bother me. And I like the idea that it's, you know, the fact that the people's champion was Ali. and the fact that he gave that title over to the rock and how much that meant to him and the fact that he came with that belt.

It just added the visual of it. I think it played well. I understand. I understand it, but it didn't, it didn't bother me. And I didn't even, until that super chat,

I didn't even think that that could have been a thing, but I get it. I understand why. And I think your points are valid John, but it didn't bother me. I just love it. Yeah, of course. Pete Parker,

two bucks. Thanks, Pete. And he follows it up. Roka, how are we going to get Christian, watch Shogun. Also, each have either one of you seen Manhunt on Apple follows the aftermath of Lincoln's assassination.

So I started watching that. You know what's hilarious? Manhunt? I started watching Manhut? I started watching it. We watched it first scene and my wife bailed on it. So I don't know if we'll go back to it. But I was interested in it because of the, you know, I'm a history buff. My wife, not as much. But what we had just watched Unbreakable right beforehand.

And the kid from Unbreakable is, in the opening scene, one of the opening scenes of Manhood. And I was like, oh, look at this. This is this kid. And then I'm watching. And I was like, okay, well, oh, you know why I tuned out? I'll tell you why I tuned out. I couldn't stand the actor that was playing Lincoln.

I thought in the opening scene where they were having a conversation when it was, they were having a conversation with him. It was, it was like a Saturday Night Live version of Lincoln. Okay. It was, and maybe it gets better as the series goes on, but the opening scene, I was like, that, I mean, and it's not fair to compare to Daniel de Lewis. Oh my God, no. But it is because it's a standard. Like, as you say, your word, the gravitas of Lincoln, right? That powerful thing.

This guy was kind of talking like this as Abraham Lincoln. I'm like, who is this? So that's what, that's what, when my wife was like, you want to bail on it. And I was like, yeah, I'm done. I think they kill him. I mean, it's about after he gets killed, so maybe they didn't feel they needed to bring a big, strong actor to play Lincoln. So,

but I get your point. You've got to have a feeling that the person being killed is someone that you care about. And so you want to find the person who killed, the people who killed. Did you watch the whole thing yet? I have not watched it. No, I have two friends who were in it.

Oh, was it shot in Atlanta. So I definitely want to watch it. Yeah. It wasn't, it was the one of your friends. No, was not Lincoln.

And then the showgun, I will watch. I just don't know what. Yeah. Maybe after the move. maybe when it's been off the air for like 30 years. All right, let's see. So the other one is Benny.

Thoughts on Scrazi making that Frank Sinatra biopic we've been hearing about for a while. Rumor was that Sinatra's family didn't want him doing it. Did you hear about, I haven't heard about this. I haven't heard about this. I don't want him to do it. But. Why not? Why not?

I'm going to get in trouble for this. Because I'm going to be called an ageist, but I don't want to see. a, a, a biopic about someone in his prime and youth from people who are in their 70s and 80s. I just don't. Like, he too with Michael Mann. I have no interest in seeing Michael Mann's person. Wow. He is what, 81?

And after I saw Ferrari, I was like, no, this guy's lost his basketball. Well, by that logic, should, should Furiosa not be made? No, because George Miller, it's still doing it. Punk rock? He's still making punk rock, George Miller. He's like fucking George Carlin. Like, Carlin until the end was a rebel. And there are just some people like that.

and I think other people don't. George was never a part of the Hollywood system, man. You're just sour on Killers of the Flower Moon. You mean, you look, you don't, I mean, Wall Street was only, you know. That was 10 years ago, man. Was it 10 years? It was 2000. Oh, shit.

Damn, right. Yeah. Okay. But so, I mean, he's lose their fastball, bro, from 60 to 70. Power's the last thing to go, homie. Power is the last thing to go. No, Scorsese's power. Don't get me wrong.

So I think, I still feel it's, it's, it's Frank Sinatra. You know, it's like, I know. I feel like if anybody should be doing it, France and not Italian to Italian. I totally got it. I mean, come on. I feel like that. The Michael Mann thing, I mean, that's something that we, I mean, you brought it up.

So Michael Mann, I guess, just recently just said there, I don't know if there's delays or whatever. It's not coming as fast. Did you read the book? Yeah, I read the book. It's a good book. It's not a great book. Okay. So I'm like, okay, where are we going to go with this?

And he's going to do a pre. It's a prequel mix with the sequel. So I'm like, do you think you still have the fastball to show me? young men and virile men and show what they, I just, I don't know that I necessarily buy it. All right. Fair enough. Francisco Lopez. Hey, guys. So the main event of night one is Infinity War and Night Two is end game.

Yeah, for sure. I think that's pretty accurate. I love it. What, you don't agree? No, because I think Infinity War and Endgame are both fantastic. And I didn't think both night one and night two are fantastic. So I get what you're saying. I mean, of course, there's the lead up to make sure.

Because if you don't have Night One at all in the way of telling that piece of the story, you don't have that night to have that type of impact because if Cody does it's really right yeah it leads to it yeah I see what he's saying what's the most disappointing match his is the USOs yeah because I've basically yeah it's unfortunate too the other unfortunate thing with that one is that they were building up Jay to really be like I thought made him and Jay Jay to me had a bet would have made more sense to beat Gunther for the intercontinental championship when they fought a raw that night because you could

put the strap on Jay and it's like that's how you push them into the next way. But then I understand why they had Jimmy get involved in it to set this thing up. But after this match, and it's like, well, first of all, I don't want to ever see them fight ever again. Against each other. Ever. Ever. I don't want to see them fight each other ever again.

You know, an eventual team up again, sure. And they team up to win titles one more time, sure. But I don't want to see them do singles. I think that solo and Jimmy should team up because Jimmy, he is not a singles wrestler. It just has, cannot do it. And you gotta let you gotta give Jay that push.

But yeah, that was, it was a big letdown. Yeah. Okay. So Richard Logan, prayers to Roman's dad. Oh.

His dad is sick. And Romans about the film a movie. Now I see it makes a lot of sense what he lost. Well, that's not why he lost, Richard. There was, he lost because they'd been leading

to this moment for a year. But it adds into it. I don't think it adds. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure it's an element. of it. Yeah.

Not the only reason, but I think that, but I think that, you know, it's one of those things where I said, my brother was, I was, he finally, he has recently gotten back into him. We were talking about it. He doesn't think, he doesn't agree that there's a lot of big main event talent in the roster, like main event talent. And I was going through it. We were having conversations about it.

And I was like, and he's like, he's like, and he's not, he, he hates the Cody Cry babies. He loves the rock and he wants and he wants and he, he wanted Roman to win. And I said, there's a lot of reasons why he can't. What a shock. that you have got a heel in the Harlaw family. What a fucking shock. I said there's a reason why you can't have Roman.

There's a lot of reasons why you can't have him. I was like, you know, first of all, if you, if Cody would have lost, it would have completely damaged his star. People would have snapped. They would have lost their minds first of all. But the other reason, what is that would have just, you would have taken the shine off of him. And you can't do that, but you don't take any shine off Roman for losing.

And the other reason I said is what this guy just said is that Roman wants time off and he deserves it. Yeah. We've been, you know, and granted, he doesn't compete all the time. time, but he's been carrying, his star has been carrying the WWE for a bit. So it makes sense. And I didn't know his dad was sick either, but. Yeah, I didn't know that.

And Triple H said at the post-game press conference, Triple H said, we've got a story with Roman that is going to absolutely blow your socks off. We're taking him to a whole other level. And that's going to be great to see when he comes back. Me too. You think that they're going to end Romans run with a face turn? Oh, 100%. He's all 100% going face.

100% yeah my i think cody will turn heel by the time it's all over oh you can't he's i want him to be sting i want him to be like stink and like ricky the dragon you know like yeah it's keep i mean he's been healed before hasn't he and in a w w never what he tried to do in w w you it really wasn't that great because he was imitating his brother's gimmick with that shatter's car whatever right right right mike joy just saw the omen for the first time because i like the first moment so much is the rest of the serious work watching all right so did you see the first Omen? No, I haven't seen the first omel. But I saw the omen. But yeah, go

ahead. I'm the, I'm not the person to talk to about these movies. I tell people that when I see it, well, I review it then, because it's what I do. And I went and I was curious to see it. And sometimes horror movies and thrillers will surprise me. But like,

a bunch of people just throwing up screaming, head spinning around and shit, who are these people? Who are these people? And why don't you just get a clean X? wipe your mouth. We all do was the devil. What's the surprise?

It's not a surprise. The prequel. We know it. We know it. What's the kid's name? Of course, Damien, you know it. It's not a surprise. Come on.

So I don't know. Wrong person. Yeah, Mike. The Omen, the original is great. The subsequent sequel is not so good. But I've heard this one's okay. Even Snyder, who's a big horror guy, gave it a mid-review. I saw him afterwards.

And he was like, and I was telling, I told him my, like, my, my, my, my problems with it. And like, he was laughing. But like, you could tell you, he didn't, he didn't mind it. But I was just like, I wanted to go home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Unheard, incorporated. Best friend at WrestleMania in years.

Great matches. The main event was predictable, but in the best way. Big smile on my face the whole time. Totally rude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I cared.

Like, I cared. And, and what also, what, what goes a long way is the fact that I, for a second, said, WrestleMania night too, should I let this be a reason why I don't go to the Bruce Springsteen concert? I very quickly said no,

but the fact that I even asked myself that question, which I never would have done in previous years. How long was the concert, by the way? Three? Oh, two. It was like three. We, it started around 7.30.

I left. There was, he had two songs still left in the encore where I wanted to beat the traffic. So we, and I got home at like 11. Okay. And no opener. Yeah, because I remember in the old days, Bruce could go four to five hours in the 80s.

Back in the 80s when he came to Capitol Center in D.C., those were great shows, man. I mean, 45 hours. Three is pretty good for his age. You went three and a half, and he was moving. That's incredible. And he's, but he played the ballot of Tom Jod with Tom Marello again, which he did that. When I saw him, I saw him in 2000, it was a 10 or 2011 at Anaheim, and he played that with Morello. and he did it again and I was like oh so good and yeah because Marillo came out because he did 41 shots

he did um dancing in the dark he did glory days did a lot of stuff from the new album which there was some stuff I didn't know but um are you excited for the Nebraska thing with Scott Cooper directing it yeah it looks I think Universal landed the deal the dance this morning Jeremy Allen White still in talks do you like this idea that they're profiling the Nebraska album um and they're not and they're doing more than Nebraska and they're not not doing like his full life. Yeah, no, they're just doing the making of the album. And it's just that section of his life.

It's kind of like what they did. 20th century, right? Yeah. What they did with Bob Marley where they just kind of won. Yes, kind of. Yeah, just the Exodus. Yeah. I mean, look, you tell me Bruce Frankston, you tell me Jeremy, Alan White, I'm going to be, I'm going to be excited. Yeah. I'm going to be excited. So, yeah, I would have liked to seem like a full thing on his life. But if we're, but, you know, but on the same side, I'm glad we don't have to put prosthetic. on Jeremy Ellen White and making up and all that stuff too.

It's just to have them for that. Yeah. Hey, you guys enjoy the concert? All right. It's good for you. It's good. Mad Sinister Macal. Which wrestlers need a push?

I think Cross maybe. I mean, I like Carrying Cross. I know you do. And the reason why I like him, though, is not from anything he did in wrestling. It's from the interview that he gave with Chris Van Bleet. Oh, right. That's the impression of Jesse Ventura. He's like, he's got a big person.

personality use that guy find a way to make that guy a wrestler because whatever they're doing with him now if i didn't if i didn't see that interview with van bleat i wouldn't care about him but it's because of the interview i saw with him he's got a lot of personality give him let him be funny he's funny let him be funny like do what the you know what they did with the rock and let him start doing what he did oh we didn't talk about la night and styles by the way oh yeah yeah uh good match glad la one don't know if it pushes the needle in any way, shape, or form. But at some point, they've got to put a strap on him.

Because enough, he's not getting any younger. He's 41 years old. I know. You got to put a strap on LA night sooner rather than later, man, eventually. Just not a big LA night guy. I understand, like, I understand why he's over and I understand, like, why he needed to win. Yeah. But, yeah, okay. That's my answer. He needs a push.

Yeah. Night one, this is from Jake. Okay. Night one also went up against the final four. I was bouncing back and forth between them. I only watched Rhea, Sammy, and the main event in full. Yeah, well, the good news is that that's why you can go back and watch the replay, you know, with the match. So I really recommend watching a lot of those, a lot of those matches for sure.

And stand and deliver. If you guys have watched NXT Stand and Deliver, there was like four really great matches in Stand and Deliver. So it's basically a trick and Carmelo. That was fucking excellent. Yeah. Alexis, Narange. When Roman gets kicked out of the new family, will he become the face? that we always wanted. And will Triple H do what Vince couldn't do and make Roman a true hero?

Yeah, I think, I think that, as John was saying, that'll happen. I think the bloodline is over. There's no one to be the face of the bloodline. Solo's not ready. Jimmy's not ready. Paul is going to leave and go with Gunther, I think. And so I don't see the points. I don't think he's going with Gunther. You don't think so? You don't think he's going to Imperium? That's another faction. Who Paul? Paul. Paul. Paul Heyman's going to go with Brock, Baker. Oh, with a Braun Breaker. Oh, yeah. Oh, interesting.

Yeah. That could be great. Because all Braun's doing right now is barking. Yeah. And he's just bark. He's, he's an incredible force, but he ain't, he ain't a Mike guy yet. And delivering spears that are like something out of fucking Avengers with the fucking Tilda Swinton knocking your soul out of your body, man.

And he's running at a thousand miles an hour in the rain. I mean, he's so insane to watch. He needs a Paul Heyman. Gunther don't need. You're 100% right, bro. I would love to see. And I think they even had an interview. I think they even had like a quick scene or something where,

where Paul, Paul's got to get a hold of Brock. I mean, Brock. Keep saying Brock. Braun. He's got to get a hold of him because I think he can really craft. That guy's got something. He's got something.

But is it a Jade thing also? Like, how good is he given in the mic? Because I love Rick Steiner, but you can't just keep barking and that's all you got. You can't just bark. You got to, you got to see more.

And I'm not saying that's all he has. But like, I'm that guy to me could be a mega star yeah yeah um okay mad sinister mccal could rob zombie be the one using the leafblower maybe maybe because uh it's that's gonna be the big reveal when i move is that it was rob zombie the whole time um okay there's more coming in again guys we'll hear until the last question so if you have anything that you want to hear us talk about that we haven't talked about in general let us know all here you go john hey let go lopez what are your thoughts on

AEW releasing the all-in thing between punk and Perry. I think it's sad and pathetic and it's going to prove that punk was right about EEW and Tony. Yeah, it's, it is pretty sad. It's like, it let it, it's such a ego thing where your ego is hurt that punk talked during that interview. And now you're like,

okay, well, watch this. It's like, let it go, man. Let it go. This is a massive mistake if Khan does this. I hope he rethinks this and doesn't do it. I like Tony.

I've interviewed Tony on the show on Strongstyle. It was great. but like this is a multi-millionaire bordering on billionaire punching down to a guy yes punk has his money but punk's a blue-collar guy and to do this is a massive mistake this was clearly a toxic relationship and we only like to see scenes of toxic relationships in movies tv shows or wrestling scenes if you're going to show me real stuff i think people are going to be very turned off by this i the a ewe lovers are going to jack off over it but like the actual mainstream wrestling fans are going to going to feel icky about it, they're not going to want to watch it. And I think Tony should have just told Ariel, I want to come on your show, contradict some the things that punk said and give my version of events. That's the smarter move. That's the classier move, don't you think?

Much better. He's like, yeah. And because the answer to that is, well, maybe legally he can't, but he can release footage. Yeah, that's nuts. It's like what are we talking about here? And Mercedes, get the fuck out of there. You are drowning 700,000 people watching. That's what you came back for?

If the contract is big enough and she can and she can basically do what they did in the WCW is just to take take care of yourself and until you can get healthier and then come back. She's going to want to because they're going to offer. She's totally coming back in a year, bro. Yeah. What about what about MJF? What's his deal? He's got to go. I mean, it's time.

He's got to go. That guy over. You got to bring that guy over. In his prime, not later. You got whatever. You got to break the back to bring him. You got it. Yeah, for sure.

Mr. Penguin, can you guys see Gunther winning money in the bank? No, because he doesn't need it. Yeah, he doesn't need it. He doesn't need it. Like, he's already a huge star. So, like, when is that money in the next couple months? Yeah, yeah. He's a walking, he's a walking number one contender. You don't need to put the case on him, you know.

Yeah. Oh, my buddy. Met Bull. If you were Seth, would you slap the piss out of Cody since Seth sacrificed so much due to Cody Crybaby's pissing and moaning until he got the belt. I mean, it seems like they might go that way, but like, where's that it's just, if I'm any wrestler right now, I, well, it's like, part of me, I don't want to be in a few with Cody and then I do. I do because of the shine. Yeah. But you're losing. Anybody that, anybody that goes up against Cody right now is,

is losing. And you should have Cody, I agree with somebody what they said, by the way, and I want to make it clear. When I talked about the, the belt's longer. runs. Not everybody should have long runs because someone correctly said it takes away the unpredictability if you know everybody's going to have a long run, then it's like, oh, okay, that's what they used to do back in the day. You knew that you're only going to keep the title until WrestleMania, so they weren't going to lose it on Raw. They weren't going to lose it on the next pay-per-view. Right. So I don't disagree with that. I'm just saying that keep longer runs a thing, you know, because that brings validity to the championship. For certain people. Yeah. Yeah. So I reject the premise of Matt Bulls question.

first of all, because there are no Cody Cry Babies. The biggest Cry Baby was the Rock coming in and being mad that people didn't love him. And so he Crybabyed his way into a heel turn and got what he wanted. So he can take that Cody Crybaby's thing and stick it straight up his candy ass. So let me throw that out because of Cody Crybaby, I'll tell you that. Second thing, Metpool is a Cody Crybaby as well. Oh, okay. All right.

Then say that in the post. Say you're a self-professional. He's a friend of mine. So I know, I know for a fact that he's. Good. Then I'll say this. Seth, as I said, that ending of the main event. laid the groundwork for all these storylines that are coming.

You have a lot of games you can play now. Seth shaking Cody's hand out. Like when he's sticking, he essentially saying to him, you owe me, you owe me. I did this for you. You owe me. That's going to pay dividends down the road. So there will be a Seth Cody program that is going to be incredible once they

decide how they want to play that out. So I'm looking for a way from Seth and punk for now. Mm-hmm. Because punk will be, punk didn't even paying attention to Seth really at all. there in a match. It was all Drew and Seth. Yeah. I mean, sorry, Drew and Punk the whole time. And that's, so that's the program there with those two. So where

does Seth go right now? Yeah, it's a good question. I think it takes a break for a little bit, just like Becky's doing. Becky lost Torrea because she's going to go on a break. I'll tell you this right now. I think that was one of the final matches we're going to see Becky Lynch. I think so. I think, look how skinny she is, bro.

She is thinned down so much and I think she wants to make the jump into acting. And I think that's the next thing. I think she loves being a mom too. Yeah, that too. She wants to be home. So maybe there's stuff she can do. Plus, she's got the book.

The biography is out now. She's going to go on book tours. So she takes a break, takes care of her body. And she did. And she did what she had to do. Yeah. She was one of the biggest.

She was one of the biggest stars in WWE. Not just women stars. She's one of the biggest stars in this, during like that 2018, 2019, right she had. She was like, they were like comparing to like stone cold of the women's division.

You know, she was going to duplicate that. No, That was amazing what she did. So yeah, she deserves it. And the same way that Charlotte has taken a break, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She'll be back soon, right?

Very soon. She's recovering from the injury. She'll be back very soon. Yeah. Okay, so this is Renee Riz. Hey. What do you think is the next step for the Rock in the WWE? John, I'll let you take this one.

He's a, he is the, um, on the board of directors, bro. The next spot is him making a lot of money off the WWE working towards that Netflix stuff. So I think that's his overall goal is, is the direct. of the WWE, him in Triple H, and of course, R. Emanuel and Nikon deciding where they want to go with it. So I think that's his focus. To bring him back as an on-camera character for an extended eight months or year, I think is a mistake. Because eventually people are going to get tired of it.

And I think The Rock now, people say he's going to take over the bloodline. I don't think that's going to happen at all. Maybe there's a little bit of stuff over the next few weeks. But I think eventually he's going to transition back to where he was because he wants to be a Hollywood superstar. He wants to start making his movies again. and so I think it served its purpose in the end. Well, tonight will be interesting to see what happens. Yeah, right.

Rothomania, yeah, absolutely. Matt Sinistern-McCall. Well, Ray, I have a Roman title run. She's awesome. I mean, she could. The only person I think right now that I can see or could take the title from her eventually if she gets better on the mic and the ring is Jade. But she's got better on the mic in the room.

Because she's physically can hang. with real realistically and i think other people say bianca but i think bianca in the same argument she had a good run you know she can still have another run she's not she's still young um but she can still but i think that if you look at star power to me why would i give like bianca became like a massive star and was like oh and they did her dirty when she like she lost the title it was to becky right yeah 28 seconds at somerslam that was horrific um it was a really bad move uh so like But she got to a place where she was up here. Yeah.

This is how the WWE works. Then you find someone that just goes here. Yeah. And why in the world do you want to take someone who this, this is a good level to be at, but it ain't here. And that's where Ria is right now. And unless it's one of these things where they're like trading titles

in the way that they did like, you know, Sean and Brett did. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't think we see Ria and Bianca until next Messerlemia. I think that's the matchup. Ria and Bianca, next WrestleMania. We'll see what you do with Jade. Maybe you're right. Maybe there's a Jade in the middle of,

the year but i think for me it's going to be ria bianca next year and i think bianca takes the title off of it which would be great yeah so um but yeah i mean it's it'll be it'll be interesting it'll be interesting to see how they how they build that up mike joyce i can't believe states declared a state of emergency because all the people traveling for the eclipse do you know anyone that travel to see it no i don't yeah i didn't call it on the news this morning i didn't even realize bro i could give a fuck i don't care about the eclipse at all they'll be over before you know people always make a big thing out of in the same room you made Y2K and all that stuff. Yeah. So it was like the end of the world.

If it is, I had a good run. Hey, we had a good run. If we deserved the world to end. Yeah, that's true. I'm trying to, okay, here's no, Tim. Our good buddy Tim Sim, love Tim. Hey, Tim. One of the best manias I've seen in a while.

Night one was very good, minus the Uso's, but night two stole the show. WW for me is back, and AEW is in deep danger if they show that all in punk Perry footage after yesterday's mania. Yeah, it would be really. stupid. It'd be really, it's okay to just say, just kidding. Yeah. And Perry has been suspended for six months. He hasn't even, so you're not even defending Perry. I just don't understand the logic in putting that up there. It makes no sense. Don't do it, Tony. It's Bruce Digo, and it's stupid. It's so stupid. It's like, what are you doing? Why would you, like, what's the point of doing that? What is the point of doing

this is just, it's, don't they have advisors over there? They do. They're called, um, Cole and Brett Baker and they have no fucking idea what they're doing over there with that shit it's such a massive mistake it's small potatoes thinking and they're going to get crushed for it you know this Christian that's the thing listen one of the smart things about christian olive and he hates when I kiss his ass but i'll tell you the truth because i don't like kids that but here's the fucking true Christian never plays small balls he never plays small potatoes he doesn't even when the temptation is there to play small potatoes and at times i've pushed him to play small potatoes he doesn't do it be smart about this stuff me i don't give a fuck i'll play small potatoes he doesn't do it be smart about this stuff me i don't

give a fuck i'll play bigger small potatoes but that's the difference and the way you succeed and get more people to be on on your side of things and we get more people to watch your stuff or be a part of your stuff whatever you're doing is to not play small potatoes because the temptation is there to do that you got to play in bigger fields and understand there's a bigger picture and i think tony's going to make a massive mistake if he drops that video it'll be bad it'll be bad if he does that it's it's it's just makes no sense it's like just move on because that like in the way that the internet works yes we know punk like let them up with that interview because he's being honest he didn't even want to do it you even want to talk about how he is he's free flowing flowing and talking yeah but people are talking about

wrestling mania right now they're not talking about that interview nobody and nobody cares about the interview anymore and it's like it's over and it's like you're like what what are you trying to prove because you're because a w when they were really hot the w was was still in vince mode and they were they were flailing they ain't there anymore they're in the hottest spot that they can be in right now you are throwing pebbles at the sun. Yeah. What are you doing? Exactly.

Lucky BX. You guys, W.W.E reactions renewed my interest in wrestling, and then things got hot the last couple weeks. You guys disappeared. What happened? Well, I actually did a full, I did a full special,

two-hour special on WrestleMania with Kathy Kelly, who brought back the Slamys, and, and, and, Chris and Lee. So I'm still doing it. I did nine hours of content this weekend. What are you fucking talking about, man? I think he made to make every week.

And like I said beforehand is that my thing is that that previous special that I did did find like 15,000. But like I got to if you guys want me to do wrestling shows, like you got to show me that you want to click on it and you want to watch it because I don't want to waste your time and put out stuff that you're not going to watch. And I don't want to waste my time or anybody else's time for making stuff that people. aren't going to watch. So it's one of those things that maybe eventually I do wrestling program, but I don't know. It just depended because I'm into it right now. So, okay. So let's get to, there's a few more. And this is Tim Sim again. As for Monkey Man, they had no shot at making box office against WrestleMania. True and college basketball final four that weekend, sadly. It is the same audience. He's not wrong with WrestleMania, a lot of the same

audience. And final four will be an instant cold classic. I think Tim's right in the money on that one. I think you're 100% right, Tim. I think that there's a lot of different things. Plus the fact that it wasn't marketed very well and it's like, and people didn't really know what it is. It's got it.

If you don't know what it is, it's got a strange title. It works perfect if you know what it is, but if you don't. Yeah. Benzo, WrestleMania has done so well. Yeah, it does. It really did. It had a good, they're, they're, they're in the sweet spot right now.

They're in the sweet spot. Yeah. No, I didn't think Severin sucked. Someone said, did I think Severn suck? I, well, when I first started it, and I know, what do I think sucked? Why did it even come out? I don't think Shogun sucked. I didn't even watch it yet.

Severance, I started watching it, and I go, there's someone walking down the hallway. I'm not doing this. And then I watch it. And I watched it. I love this. It was one of my favorite shows. Yeah. Okay.

Happy Monday, everyone. This is Justin Square. Just this is. Excuse me. Happy Monday. I hope Chris Van Bleed is okay after what happened this Saturday after the show press. Paul ruined him.

That was hilarious. People don't know. Chris, I asked the first question. Do you see him sitting next to Brad Gilmore? Yeah, yeah. So on Saturday,

though, he was by himself and he said, Chris Van Bleet here, and they said, okay, questions for Roman Raines. And he's like, Paul,

just wanted to say, you know, you said that this is, whatever his quote was. And we're creating. Yeah, he's a little thing are we now. And Paul goes,

I'm sorry. Did you not hear the man say questions for Roman Raines? And then just frankly, just like, silent and then paul's like oh can we have are we having a conversation here was that your question and then and then he finally asked question of roman and roman's like next question yeah he's ignored it poor bad he said acknowledge me first and then said next question that's hilarious have you

ever had a bad celebrity encounter uh yeah sure definitely yeah that's it yeah sure um okay you're not getting that for two dollars that's for fucking sure yeah Aaron, you guys have to watch Task Masker with Greg Davies. It's something you guys will love. What is that? What is that? I don't know what that is. I don't know what it is.

I'm not sure. Task Masked. You're looking it up. Yeah, I'll look at it up real quick. Yeah, I'll look at that up. Tony Kahn's dealer. It's hilarious. Cody has zero charisma.

You will see how boring is. Tony, come on. Stop that. Come on. Daniel Bean. Have you guys seen the Maxine trailer? No. What is that?

Yeah, I'm doing it. I'm releasing the trailer reaction later on in the afternoon after the show. So, yeah, it's the third installment of the T. West horror thing with Pearl and X. So they're with Mia Gough. Also, the taskmaster thing is a thing from the, from the UK with Greg Davis. He's a very funny British comedian.

Okay. Good. Fabrice. Briggas Hill turning YouTube history is at time the host told the other co-hosts who would watch Shogun that he'd know you through next three weeks. True. Absolutely true.

That's the steel chair against my back. Everybody gets mad at me. For sure. Did you watch Braun, by the way, on NXT? Braun Breaker? Yeah. Did he cut prom was there? Yeah, he's fine on the,

he's fine on the mic, brother. He's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tony Kahn's dealer. What are your thoughts on Roman's future in movies? Um, I don't know. I don't know yet because,

I mean, he's gotten better in how he's done things. I mean, you know what I saw recently? And I mean, you, you haven't really taken a break on wrestling in the way that I have. Yeah.

When Sener murdered Roman's life on the microphone, oh my God. I mean, murders ago. murdered. Like, just like, Roman, like, messed up or couldn't remember some of the lines. And Cina's like, okay, come out, we're waiting.

See, the way it works is you're going to get a promo. You got to do this. And I was like, wow. Yeah. Like took his dick out and slapped them in the face with it. And I was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

People have respect for Cina in the Maya Via family, but they don't like him in the Maya. Because he also called out Rock for writing on his promo and his wrist that one time, too. So Cina has gotten both of these guys. in the Maya Via family. So I think it's hilarious. But as far as Romans' future movies, I mean, he's got the look.

Yeah. I mean, he looked great. The night one and night two, he looked, and he didn't look too big. He looked in phenomenal. He could be, I could see them basically doing what they did with the rock to say,

like, all right, you know what we're going to do? We're going to give you like a $30 million, a $30 million action movie. And let's see how you do with it. Like a hardcore action movie. Let's see how you do with it. I'd love to see that for him.

I'd love to see that. Butista might have been the template too because Roman's got some nice vulnerability. And I don't know that the Rock's ever had that except for maybe in Snitch or Hitch, whatever there was. Snitch, yeah. But other than that, we haven't seen much of Rock's vulnerability. So I think Roman has that within him. So we'll see down the road.

Benzo. Rock will be the face of the Bloodline. They just signed Jacob Fatu this weekend. Another member of the Bloodline who's really good. Do you know anything about Jacob? Yeah, Fatu's great. And it's fun to these as a young talent, young kid, another generation coming in through that whole bloodline.

which is great. But nobody's Roman, bro. Nobody's Roman. So, yeah. And I don't think, and a part-timer like the rock isn't going to be someone to keep the bloodline going. It doesn't make sense. You've got to have a leader who fights and also delivers incredible promos and is kind

of in that prime. And the rock is out of his prime. So it doesn't make sense. Hank Pimp, I think the backstage footage will be some fake trash to the bucks tape themselves last week for a joke. Cheap way to try and get ratings. If they're lucky, that would that would be the smart play. Yeah, probably.

That would be the smart play. I mean, they'll get crap for it because they still were trying to promote it through there. Because they never really said, we're going to show footage of punk. They just said they're going to show that. So that would be the smart play. And then they can get people yelling at them for trolling and stuff too. That would be smarter than to actually show the real stuff. Agreed.

Justin is a square. Can we build a time machine and send Samantha Irvin back to time to announce competitors out of Schmendellon? Oh, boy. There's a highlight for W.O.m. I'll leave that. This is all I'll say. This is all I say. I am in the minority.

All I hear is how. of a person she is. I think she is, and I hear that she's just a sweetheart of a human. Super talented. Not for me. The announcing, I'm a Howard Frankel type of guy,

and I just, it's, but people love, I am clearly in the minority. The goat, Michael Buffer, posted the thing about her. People love her.

People love the thing that she did at the very end with, when she kind of had her real emotion for Cody. I mean, look, she's, she's doing something right. Because people, people are talking about her,

just as much as it's, talking about the remaining matters i know you're right you're talking with her just as much so she's just it's just not just not for me i love samantha i'm on record on twitter uh she is the best announcer since finkel for the w w and no offense to christian i would have absolutely loved her to announce at least one of my four title wins if someone would have told me when we're doing schmowdown yeah this goes back to your previous point if someone says hey i know you're not like you know you don't love the way she kind of calls matches, but we could have her call spectacular. Kind of an idiot would I be if I said no.

Right, exactly. Yeah, no. You know what I mean? Like because you can't judge it off of what you, like, you think, you also got to look like people, like you. Are fans interested, right? My brother loves, loves her, loves the way she calls me. 99% or 95% of people who watch the mother Irvin. And like I said, everyone that I know who knows her,

not a bad word spoken about this woman, how wonderful she has, how much she loves the business. Just personal preference. Renee Reyes. Roka, what's your beef at the rock? You've been gas for him all show. All show. That's like five months.

This guy would think his number one guy. I love the rock. Through the barbershop. Yeah. Listen, I love the rock. I am at the Roka says because of the rock says. I just went to three different targets in the last two weeks to buy all of his skin products because I want to try them out.

So on one side of me, I love the rock. but I'm also a lover of the business. No one is bigger than the business. And I thought the Rock's ego in coming back, thinking the fans were going to kiss his ass when he was, when he coming back as a face, I thought it was hubris and ego in the real way. Not a,

now, whenever O'Shea Jackson Jr. says, not in a planned heel way. He came back in a way thinking people are going to love him. And when they didn't, he got pissed. And so I didn't like that. But the adjustment and all of that has been great.

But I think the Rock's ego has gotten exposed to, over the last few years. And I think he is a good guy. He's certainly a very genuine guy, but there is a desire to get ahead here that sometimes comes through. But it can rub people the wrong way. But didn't that work?

That like his, well, eventually it did, yes. Look at the, I know it's like taboo to talk about him, but like, look at like Vince's ego, was an ego that you're like, stop.

Right. Stop. Like, I remember being there. This is back in his height. The height of his, like, we'd be like, these stories would pitch. I remember this one particular angle that we're like, wow, I can't believe Vince actually is going to let us do this.

This is going to be amazing. And then I think it was like an hour or two hours before showtime. He changed his mind. He wants to do something else. And whatever it was, I remember at the time going, well, that's kind of lame. And it was lame. And we also know there were a lot of brilliant decisions made. Of course.

But what I mean, though, is that there was never like the pivot and the understanding because if this was a Vince era type thing, Vince is not going to move from what Vince wanted to do. Right, right. He was like, shoved it through. Vince was going to do Roman versus Rock, then that's what was going to happen. Doesn't matter if the crowd was screaming, we want Cody,

we want Cody. It didn't matter. It didn't matter. They would have never pivoted the way that they did. And you also got to give credit to the Rock for saying like, okay, yeah, I mean,

I know that maybe back in the day, that's what happened. But he went with it and he played with it, and he knew that the heel thing was the way to go. I give him credit. I give him credit, I do. I give him credit too for the change.

I agree. And that intro, I tweeted it out. That's how you come back to WrestleMania after eight years. That intro for him was incredible. The Titan Tron, dude, all it made me do was miss the Shmowdown and, like, hope we had money one day to come out with, like, 10 fucking Titan Trons playing the outlaws.

Somebody else to run it, though, I'll tell you that. Mr. I crap and shit. Oh, I love him. Just got home from watching the total eclipse here in Cleveland. WrestleMania 40 was great. Logan Paul needs his ass kick. He's so good at being a heel. He really is.

He's so good at it. Dark Jedi Knight. This was the first of the Starzumania I have seen in 15 years. Night one was okay, but night two made me fall back in love with wrestling again. I love that. That's great. Yeah. It's really great.

Rene Reyes, you make a guest appearance on Smackdown or Raw. Which finisher are you using and on what wrestler? I had my own that I used to have as a kid. I'm so glad no one has ever used this before. The version of the actual move itself, but they've never called this before. It's called, it's called the first is the hook. Yeah. Then the line goes all the way up top.

and then the sinker bring him down. Hookland and sinker. I used to do that all the time. My brother, I used to smash him. I would do it. I just made a hookland and sinker. That's what I would do. Are you telling me no one's ever used it?

No one's never called the hotline and sinker before. Not that I know. If there's somebody is, doink the clown, maybe. Doink is the best. I said last night that the stutter and the pedigree are my favorite finishers, but I think I changed my mind because the RKO is my favorite. It's kind of a combo of the stutter, but you can hit it from anywhere at any time. Yeah.

So I would probably do that and I'd do that on the rock just because it would be amazing to be able to hit a move on the rock. I do love madly regardless of my criticisms. King Daddy Goat. Got to have more wrestling talk. Stock is rising. I mean, look, man, I'm telling you, just like, I'll keep trying. And if people watch it and you click on it for sure. I mean, look, this one we did decent, you know, almost 1,000 people watching today.

So that's good. Nice. Mr. I crap and shits is back. I was hoping that Mike Tyson would show up and take out Logan Paul. Well, if it was Jake, it probably would have happened. That's going to be very interesting. If these companies were connected, they would have done that, but no, they didn't. Yeah.

Hey, Christian, John, I'm a big fan of you guys. Did you pitch anything when you were a writer? I made it on. Yeah, a lot of my stuff made it on, for sure. I did the thing with Saturn with the Moppy missing on the back of the carton. Oh, God, I remember that. Yeah, that was great. And then I did some stuff with, I mean, I did some stuff with the APA.

some stuff. I have to remember, like, if I went back and watched, I mean, if I went back and watched that time period, I can tell you the things that I wrote and got onto the air. That could be a fun thing for a patron. Yeah, I know. Well, yeah, you'll have to really go through it. Matt Boyle, where do you see Randy Orton going forward? That's a good call, but maybe, maybe a, maybe a thing with a Dary, with a priest. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I think Randy is great. And I think Randy will put people over and he's in that stage of his career now. And he seems to have a really good time. And if you guys haven't watched him and punk, they just released a video a couple of days ago

where they watched their WrestleMania match is such a great time. And it's two older dudes talking about therapy, talking about the hubris they had as young men and how they're older now and really want to like accept and love each other. It's a fantastic watch. And they talk about the match as well, obviously, but it's a great watch to see that.

So Randy's like very much about putting everybody over. Yeah, which is great. Yeah. Asking 420, thoughts on Hayman's goat speech. It was epic. Yeah, he's he's, he's the best. He's the best. I'm trying to get him on the show.

He was the one guy. Yeah, well, remember, he was, he was, he was, like, he was great to me when I was there. He was the one guy, like, as much as I, I won't speak to anything as far as a persona-wise, but Bruce Pritcher did not like me. He did not, and he was not, he was not nice to me. I don't like a Bruce at all. Well, I don't, I can't speak on him, as both just the fact that, like, he just didn't like me. Um, but Paul Heyman did.

Paul Heyman, like when I got in there and I did my, uh, I did my full, um, interview with them. Yeah. I remember afterwards after I kind of got the gig, Paul's like, come here. I want you to try something. I got, I got a feeling about you. And he said, put these on. They made me call a match. Wow. Like, yeah, I blew it. I blew it. Okay. But, but, but he still, what's just ironic is that what years later I started doing this for, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was doing this before I was doing this before I was doing this. in front of the mic in front of YouTube and stuff.

Like he's got that instinct to where like he knows what people's. And this is from seeing me talking in a room. Yeah, yeah. He had energy. Yeah. And he knew what I could do. Right. And he was very kind to me.

And I reached out to him not so long ago because we follow each other on, on Twitter and the stream. I was talking to him. And he's like, and I said, well, I asked him one time to do something. It's like, when we do something, I want it to really count. And I was like, I just love how he talks to people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Paul Heyman.

I'm so glad that he did with it. He's smart. Ryan Satin swears by him as well. He says, they have great relationship. I love Paul. I love Paul. Broadway, Joe,

who's the face and the heel in the Roman rock program? There's money in Face Roman. I think that's where you go because I was, John, I was under that double agent thing for a while. Totally. And I think that they just realized how much money is in Heal Rock that they kept it. Yeah, I mean,

my concern is, will he be able to go a full one-on-one match with Roman? That's and by the time you get it, he's going to be six months older probably. So I just get concerned about it. So I don't know if we're ever going to see Rock versus Robin. I really don't know. Maybe. King Daddy Goat new WWE title unveiled tonight.

I hope so. That'd be great. Wing Eagle, it'll be amazing. Tony Khan's dealers, Blade ever coming out. MCU doesn't care anymore. Yeah, it's supposed to come out. I think it will. I think it's too big of a thing now for sure.

Ryan is doing the Blade movie anyway, whether you like it or not. He's doing it over there at the other place. Francisco Lopez, Roka, is there any chance you're going to do strong styles for WrestleMania topics to cover with the boys? It depends. Chris Burns was there at WrestleMania, both the whole weekend. He's got a lot going on. Aaron, it might be available.

So we're trying to figure it out. If we do it this week, it'll be either tomorrow or Wednesday. And if we don't get it by tomorrow, Wednesday, I don't think we're going to do it. So just letting you know, that's the situation there. We're all just so busy. It's hard to figure out the schedules and stuff. So, yeah. Chris Minor, Samantha Irvin, last time, made her the goat for me.

over Howard Finkel, come on. There are people saying that on social media. Because of one night, come on, come on, over Howard Finkel. Look at Chris right up. This is the face. Even if you want to put her in number two,

you can put her at two. It's not bad at Howard Finkel. That's nuts. It's nuts. And no, you would emphasize the new. And you just felt it in your in your gut. Come on.

Better than Howard Finkel. Get out of here. with that. Casey Mac. Talk on April 1st, on April's as champion? What? I'm not sure. Right now I'm not a fan, but I'm willing to give it a chance.

And we'll not surprise me if they give the title back to Drew. Oh, you mean, oh, he means the Damien Priest. Oh, Damien Priest. Right now I'm not, I'm a fan, but I'll give it a chance. Do you think Drew could take the title back? It depends on how they book it. It depends on how he handles having the title over the last few months. So, you know, because I think Damien Priest, people wait for him the title.

People love him. Triple H loves Damien Priest. So I think he's going to give him an extended run. And so you think Drew is going to win the title back. And he doesn't. Remember, these are long games. Drew eventually will get the title back. It may not be as quickly as people want it to happen.

And he's still got to do that punk program. So I think we're a while away from it's going to be a bit. It's going to have the belt. I'm very curious to where, is there any world where, how long does judgment day stick together, do you think? I think they're going to stay together for a while, but I think they're going to turn face very soon. People love Priest and Ria too much to keep them as heels. But they just do.

But the other guy, who's the guy? I don't know, I can never remember his name. Who is a young kid, J.D. McDonough? That guy is about, he's almost Barry Harwitz at this point. Every time you know he's going to lose. You know he's going to lose. They need to make them. look a little weak, put McCutton in there, and he'll lose. It's like, you got to, that guy cannot

be with them that long in order to keep the validity. Yeah, it may be him and Finn Baller her peel off and do their own thing. Because Dom is going to stay a heel forever, although eventually there will be a Dom face turn, and people are going to lose their shit when it happens, and it's going to be glorious. It'll reunite with his dad. It'll be glory. Yeah, it'll be great. You know, before, before we go, I have to ask you to two, because like, there was this whole thing, another reason why the conversation can stop about the Hogan thing, right, about whether he was going to beat the record. He wasn't even close to getting close to beating Hulk Hogan's record. Yeah, yeah.

He wasn't even close. People say, people say like, oh, he was, he was four months away. No, he wasn't. He was the universal champion first. He was the universal champion in 2020. He wasn't WWE champion until what, 2021? Yeah, yeah. So that's what the belt is.

It's like the same way, like, because what I bring up. up is okay so if if damien priest holds the heavyweight title for four years he beat hulke hogan's record no then why does why would roman rains have it was a university it was weird it was weird on somebody else and and i think the records thing is ridiculous in in sports entertainment because it's like it's you know it's fucking scripted so to me it bears nothing no weight no resemblance nothing It just speaks to the validity of your reign, and it speaks to how much you're over with the fans. But I think there are title runs that were shorter

that are much more memorable than longer title runs. So I think the record stuff is irrelevant, to be honest with you, because someone else is deciding whether you can win those records and be a champion for so long. Look at Gunther. Gunther shattered my heart when he broke Honky Talks record. Yes, right? I thought that record was going to stand forever. Yeah, so did honky. I'm sure.

You know, they did Honky dirty, by the way. They always do, dude. They really did him dirty. Like, so they, they were talking about Gunther's reign, and they were showing like the, all the intercontinental champions. And they gave Honky a half a second shot in that promo. And I'm like, are you kidding me? This was the longest rain.

This is the guy he beat. This is the record that he beat. Yeah. Love, love Honkyton. I agree. I loved Hunky. He was the best. He was such a great villain and turned that in some.

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