The Kristian Harloff Show - Zootopia 2 Blows Away The Box Office! Is It 1 Billion Dollars Bound?!

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

Disney is celebrating a massive win as Zootopia 2 breaks box-office records worldwide, and Kristian Harloff dives deep into the numbers! With Zootopia 2 debuting with a huge $273M in China, the conversation now shifts to the big question: Is this movie headed for $1 billion? We break down its global performance, its impact on Disney animation, and whether it can surpass the original. Plus, we're talking big updates across the industry — from Odyssey and Avengers teaser plans becoming clearer, to reports that Avengers: Doomsday is going more practical in its production approach. And in Star Wars news, there's major chatter about Star Wars: Starfighter, including reports that the ending has changed and that the tone is now aiming for a Return of the Jedi vibe. Kristian covers all the details, theories, and industry implications. If you love movie news, MCU updates, Star Wars speculation, and box-office breakdowns, you're in the right place. 🔑 Topics Covered "Zootopia 2" Breaks Box-Office Records "Zootopia 2" Debuts With Huge $273M In China "Odyssey," "Avengers" Teaser Plans Get Clearer "Avengers: Doomsday" Is Going More Practical "Star Wars: Starfighter" Ending Has Changed "Starfighter" Aims For "Return of the Jedi" Tone SPONSERS: AURA FRAMES: Exclusive $35 off Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/KRISTIAN. Promo Code KRISTIAN NUTRAFOL: Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription plus free shipping when you go to https://www.Nutrafol.com and use promo code KRISTIAN.  BUTCHER BOX: As an exclusive offer, our listeners can get free steak in every box for a year PLUS $20 off your first box when you go to https://www.ButcherBox.com/KRISTIAN RIDGE: Take advantage of Ridge's Biggest Sale of the Year and GET UP TO 47% Off  by going to https://www.Ridge.com/KRISTIAN #Ridgepod

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Welcome to the Christian Harloff show. I am the outlaw, John Roker. Those you remember me on the Shmodeown, the Outlaw, hell. Yeah, it is Monday morning, the Monday after the Thanksgiving weekend. Hope you had a great time with your friends and family. Hope there weren't a lot of fights at the table. Hope you got some good food. Hope you got to appreciate some love and have some fun with them and catch up with them,

watch some football or talk about movies. We had some movies come out over the week, including Zootopia, too, which are going to talk about. Later on in the show, we got some DC Supergirl news. to talk about. We've got so much to get into it. I'm not doing it by myself. The man, the myth, the legend. Mike Kalinowski is joining me today. That's right. The two big dudes of the Shmodown slamming together to have a little fun for a couple hours here on the Christian Harlov show. So let's not waste any time and let's get to it. Yo, what's up everybody? Welcome, welcome, a welcome on this Monday

morning to the Christian Harlov show. I am John Roker sitting in for the great Christian Harlov. He is off to go see Avatar this morning. Avatar Fire. and ash. And he will have an out of the theater reaction on the channel later on this afternoon when he gets done seeing the film. I'm seeing it tonight, Zandiego, because we don't get preferential treatment and go see early morning screenings of the big film. So that's the price you pay when you move to a smaller city. But I will be seeing it tonight and I'll have my out of theater reaction up on my channel, YouTube.com slash John Roker says later on tonight. But Christians will come up this afternoon. Not sure if Mike's going to get a chance to see it as well. So maybe we'll see when

Mike puts up his reaction to it when he comes on the show, but he will be on momentarily. Mike Kalanowski, Kalanowski, of course, a great commentator on films, D.C. stuff. And, of course, a big inner geekdom champion as well. We'll talk to him about all the stuff going on in the world of entertainment. But how are you all? How was your Thanksgiving? How was your time at home? How was your time with your family, with your friends?

Or did you spend it by yourself? I've done thanksgivings by myself. I think two years ago, Lady Outlaw was out of town with their family. I didn't want to drive up to hang out in L.A. because I just wasn't feeling that great. And I stayed at home and watched planes, trains and automobiles and a couple of other Thanksgiving movies, got Thanksgiving like a sad man. I went and stood in line at the local Boston Market and got myself some turkeys, some stuffing, some macaroni and cheese, some mashed potatoes and gravy and a little bit of vegetables and brought those home. It cost me about, I think like $67 or $70 to get all that food to sit there by myself and eat it. And you know what? I had a good time.

Sometimes it's okay to kind of spend time with yourself on a holiday. It's not sad or it's not pathetic or it's not lonely for some of us who enjoy our own company. And it can be a good time. And for those of you who maybe struggled through the holiday, I'm glad you got through it. I'm glad you're here on this Monday to hang out with us here on the channel. And I hope you had a good time in spite of that. And I hope you found your way through it to be here to hang out with us because we appreciate it madly very, very much. So I am a very appreciative of all of you all.

I give thanks to all of you all who hang out. Even some of you haters who hang out and watch the show and don't like what I have to say or what I have to talk about. I appreciate it. Madly, you guys are amazing. And I know Christian feels the same way. You all come in support all the stuff he's got going on here. Remember to be a YouTube member. Sign up for the YouTube membership there on his channel because he's got all kinds of reactions and things going on here on the channel.

And he's always growing on this channel. you know, so that's something that you can look forward to as well as we go into the Christmas season. I don't know about you all, but the lady outlaw today is decorating the outside of the house. She doesn't like me to help because I am absolutely a buffoon with those kinds of things. I'm more of a builder. Like I built furniture. I build stuff in the house. That's what I do. She decorate. She's better at all of that kind of stuff that I am. And I just get in the way because I'm a damn clumsy and I'm not good with those kinds of things. I'm good in other areas, but not those kinds of things.

So I let her do her thing rather than getting yelled at. It's a better way to go about things. But anyway, we are, this is the two-man show, and I'm very excited to welcome to the show before we dive into the big topics. We want to talk about DC, the box office, some Marvel stuff, some Star Wars stuff. It's a stack show today.

Please remember send in your super chats as we go along. We'd love to get to 100 super chats on this Monday, and I know I couldn't do it alone, and I needed some star power to get us to that. that 100 super chat. So I'm bringing in a ringer, and the ringer is himself, the man the myth the legend.

Mike Kalanowski. I like the energy. I like the energy. That's what we're doing here. It's an early morning. Can you hear me good? Everything good? What's up?

What's going on, man? Not much, buddy. Not much. Here we go. Guys, I was a little late there. No worries, no worries. You got your Christmas tree up already.

I see it in the reflection on your TV. What's going on there? It's back there. It's back there. We were doing that yesterday. We're good. We're all good. Do you get, do you get a natural tree?

Do you buy a plastic one? What's your, what's your approach? I'm going to get a lot of crap for this. I used to do the natural, but I'm going to plastic guy for, I've got almost 10 years now. Yeah. Yeah, man, I know. I know, no, no, I don't think it's a matter of convenience. I almost got one this time around because it's like the natural trees.

If you buy them too early, they go bad before Christmas. You have to be careful about how you do all that kind of stuff. So I totally give plastic approach for sure. How was your Thanksgiving? How was your Thanksgiving? Good, busy, but good, you? Yeah, yeah, good. Just went up to L.A., hung out with Gbe and the crew there at the Thanksgiving at his house.

So, you know, Vogel was there, a bunch of people there. There's a lot of fun there as well. Would you hang out with family or friends? What do you all do? Yeah, Shannon's got like, I mean, they're my friends now, too, that I met when we, Shannon and I were together. But they have a host every year. And yeah, it was a nice group. Is that Sarah Hootts?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got a house out in Woodland Hills, and they love to entertain. So we're always like, let's do it. Nice, nice. That's awesome. Well, speaking of, let's do it. Let's get into the show here, Mike. There's so much to talk about here, so much going on.

I know you're the D.C. guy, so I wanted to lead with this story. Let's bring it up. Let's talk about it. There's a new interview with Millie Alcock, who is going to play Supergirl, of course, in the new DC movie coming out, Supergirl. And she talks about her experience. She talks about what's going on with her, taking the role, going from someone who was kind of unknown to someone who is kind of now a bit of a superstar in her own right.

But one of the things that was showcased in this article and it's in Forbes right now, you can read it, is that the Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow is a $200 million DC feature that, of course, is directed by fellow Australian Craig Gillespie. She also talked about her taking the role of Supergirl in what it meant and the work she's done for months getting on to Supergirl. Well, she thought when she received a text to confirm she'd landed Supergirl Alcox's first reaction was a mix of jubilation and fear. I thought, quote, what have I done? I really struggled to believe I could do it.

I even called the director saying, I don't know how to be that person. I'm just me. The panic didn't last. Eventually, I realized the only way through was to trust myself. I always believed life is right on time. Things happen when they're supposed to, whether you feel ready or not. So I got to ask you, Mike, $200 million for a Supergirl, a DC woman, a Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow film on the heels of Superman making $600 million plus overall.

And there's arguments about whether it made a lot of money, didn't make a lot of money. It's back and forth constantly every week, Mike. It changes like eggs are good for you. Eggs are not good for you. You don't know what the real truth is. But what are your thoughts on this? $200 million for Supergirl movie considering people don't know her quite as well as they know Superman.

Yeah, I don't know, man. I'm not the budget guy. That's for damn sure. Me, you know what budgets are. I know Harloff and I talk a lot, especially in the realm of Star Wars. Yeah. And what they got to do and these movies can't be making, you know, cost.

And I don't know. Did you see that recently? They said Deadpool, it was like $400 million, Deadpool Wolverine. It's just like, what? Yeah. For what? I mean, it's a great movie and it made it.

But like, where, where you were on, you know, you created a desert back lot that half the movie took place on. Like, so Supergirl, I mean, if that's just budget, not including any marketing. I don't know, man. I mean, I'm assuming you've read, it's woman of tomorrow. You've read that, right? I mean, it's, yes, yes.

All alien planets. There's nothing on earth, really. So I think budgets are out of control in Hollywood as it is. Yes. I mean, and you're not, and you don't have a major star that's costing you $20, $30 million. So I don't know, man. I mean, as long, you're at that air period, man. You got to make your return.

And if you're spending more on it, it's like, yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know. That's, that's interesting. It's a bit risky, I would say initially, because it's like, okay, really Alcock, yes, House of the Dragons, everybody knows her from, people know her from that show. But I think people got to understand, like HBO isn't necessarily Netflix. Like Netflix, Stranger Things, that's an explosion, right? HBO Max is a different situation.

You're not quite as big coming out of that. But you've also got Mamoa in this thing. And the thing that you know this as a DC guy and all of us who watch this stuff, Moa has, Mamoa has the magic touch somehow. No matter what quality of the film, people come in the hundreds of millions of dollars to see his movies, man. I'll never, still to this day, it's been what, let's see, eight years how Aquaman made a billion dollars.

I love Aquin. I love that movie. Right. Because it's the kitchen sink, man. They put everything in that thing. And I just have a blast watching it. Right. If you would have asked me to make, guess which, you know,

Wonder Woman, Batman, Superman, Hits a billion. And I would have, that would have been bottom last. me. Right. So clearly, and clearly for, for me as a DC guy, I never saw him as Aquaman. Yeah. But Lobo, he's born to play the role. Right. Born, born to play the role. So, you know, maybe it's going to be a happy accident and, you know, word of mouth seems really good on it. So we'll see. We'll see. Yeah, I think the $200 million is where you go, okay, clearly they must have seen DC, WB, must have seen like the early, uh, cuts of Superman and felt in a, a, you know, excitement for what's to come.

And they're like, okay, we're going to spend 200. Because Craig Gillespie doesn't spend, like, this is not a realm. Right. Like is in usually $200 million. So I think there's a faith in James Gunn from WB that this could go the way they wanted to go. And the, as you said, where it takes place, it's outer space, it's special effects. Like they've got to spend the budget to make it look good. So maybe that's an element of the $200 million as well.

They wanted to look as realistic for outer space. stuff as possible. We'll see, man. We'll see. Yeah. Yeah, budget. That's a whole thing. I'm like, I joke. It's like money laundering. It's like the government. $50,000 for a toilet seat. You know, hey, I don't know if they're trying to cook the books because they're trying to sell it. Who knows? Yeah, yeah. My concern is that when you spend that much money, it's, you know, it's opening you up to people. If the film doesn't make like $600 million or $500 million, everyone's going to climbing in going up. You see people don't want the James Gunn universe.

They don't want. Why are they spending this much money? So I think it's dangerous to put this much money in a film with a not that well known. Yeah. And it's also telling because like I think Clayface and I don't know. But I thought that's like 40 or 50 million. Yeah. So it's like that's a property that's not well known.

Right. Right. You know, you got it's going to be a October release. But they got to have faith in this movie, Supergirl. Yeah. You know, her appearance in the movie was smart. Yeah. and kind of building on the marketing that Superman had.

And if they just keep that goodwill and the momentum going, I think maybe, you know, smarter minds than me in the film industry, you know what they're doing. Yeah, and I think we're going to see a Superman appearance, of course, and Supergirls. So that's the out of the budget, right?

So it seems clear, no matter what James says in the contrary, that the Superman saga is very much connected. Everything, you have to watch everything. So I imagine, you know, people are good he's doing this with the money they expand is because they're going to link it up to other things going down the line maybe there's a brainiac citing that's incredibly you know maybe like hey we can this man of tomorrow is going to lead right this let's throw 20 more million this way to

kind of lay groundwork maybe yeah yeah yeah yeah it could be once they announce who brainiac is uh yeah once they go through that right because it's very possible they may have cast a brain again they're going to shoot like you know post credit scenes or intro like you do with millial They had shot Superman, then cast her and then put her in, so to speak. So we'll see. I mean, $200 million. I mean, I appreciate the guts, although I think there's a possibility to fall flat on your face, but I appreciate the guts because you don't want to see a middling Supergirl

movie and the studio playing at safe, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, I want to see that. All right, so we'll see. What do you guys think about it? Do you guys think it's worth it? Do you guys think $200 million makes a lot of sense, or do you think it's a bit of a mistake?

Let us know what you think down in the comment section and in the chat as we're going along. Keep sending in your super chats. We're almost at 40. We want to get to 100 to start the week. It's early? Yeah, 40 this early, brother. We're almost in. We're doing good. Exactly. So keep sending a bit because we want to answer all of them. And you know,

Mike and I rarely get to do a show together. So whatever questions you have about for us, send it in. We'd love to hear from you. All right, let's move on to another story here. Let's get into some box office stuff, Michael. I'm not sure if you got a chance to see Zootopia 2, but it exploded at the box office, much to the, much confirming a lot of the predictions ahead of time.

Let's read this thing. Hollywood had a hot, Florida relationship with China in the 2010. Oh, wait, no, that's the wrong one. Sorry, sorry about that. Let me bring in the other one. I sometimes get confused of which is the one, because they're both leading with the same. Where is it here? Here we go. Here we go. All right. Breaks box office records. Disney had very, had very big expectations for Zootopia 2 going into the holiday weekend. And those expectations have not only been matched, but exceeded domestically the The five-day forecast has been raised again, surging upwards to $155 million, with some suggestion it could at $160.

The three-day haul from Friday and Sunday is on track to around $98 to $99 million. The original Zootopia took 12 days to $150 more million. This is doing that in less than half the time. The worldwide hall, which was projected to be as high as $500 million by the end of Sunday, is now headed towards $525 million. And the big driver here is China, where the movie pulled in $1,000,000,000, $1,4 million on $7. Saturday, the biggest single-day hall for a Hollywood film ever,

overtaking Avengers Endgame. Jesus Christ. Woo! Back on the domestic front, Wicked for Good is at $63 million for the three-day and $93 million for the five-day. And it's second week, a drop of a respectable 57%. Inlimited release Netflix's Wake Up Dead Man is reportedly tracking for a five-day haul of $4 million from just 600 screen. And Hamnet is safe to take in $1.3 million from 119 screen. So, Mike, what's your thoughts on this?

Utopia 2. That's massive. Well, I have not seen the first one that's not kind of my thing. I mean, I say that because then we don't like anime. It's like, no, I love animation. I love animation. Right. It's just, it's not my thing.

But these animated movies, man, it's holiday season, families, man. And I, yeah, good for that, man. It's like, I got nothing but good things to say when I hear a movie like that. Again, I probably won't make me see it. But again, you know, it's just not I don't have kids I'm you know

yeah so but hey man I mean it's never underestimate the families man they they you know this time of year we kind of I think we lost the whole thing of holiday movies you know used to be a bigger holiday push and now it seems either Oscar bait or

you know the avatars of the world when avatar doesn't feel it but there's always felt like there was a good family holiday movie or animated movie around this time so thanks to the weekend man, go for it. I'm happy to see these numbers because I like this Zatobia film,

the first one, and I like this one. I don't think it was as good as the first one, but I still enjoyed it. I like the new voices coming in. Kee Kee Kwan is really the big highlight of the movie for me. I thought he was great. Very sweet as Gary the Snake. And then I thought Fortune Femster as the Beaver was really

a lot of fun. Is that that comedian? Yes. Oh, yeah, I love them. Yeah. He's very funny as the Beaver. and the relationship between Jason Bateman, Jennifer Goodwin, gets even more advanced in this film as Judy Hopps there. So I'm a big fan of the franchise, and I thought it was a lot of fun. No surprise, because it wasn't a bad movie.

Like if it was a middling or bad movie, then you'd be like, oh, people just want to see this. But it's actually a good movie. So I think the family is going to see it and the kids going to see it as a positive. But I am surprised at how much power this. franchise still carries. I mean, Leelow and Stitch.

I had no idea that live action thing was going to make a billion dollars. This whole realm of people who love this stuff, you know? Like Harloff talks about Moana. You said Moana, right? The live action? Right.

Harloff talks about that a lot and how that just, you know, was it Moana or, no, Leel and Stitch. Which one was the one that was going to be a Disney plus show, but they're like not close. That was Moana too.

Yeah, yeah. And what that made. Yeah. It's just like, they know what they're doing, man. they they yeah you can't families are always going to go to those movies as much as hard as films get and as far as budget and not budget it's like a cost to go into the movies with the family but yeah you make an animated movie that they love and they'll be there for it yeah yeah and i mean the china numbers are really surprising as well china i don't get i mean i don't understand it because like what hits there and what doesn't and what they kind of turn their nose at and like yeah i don't know but superhero films are like you know Superman didn't do well there star wars doesn't i don't think star wars don't Norse doesn't do well, but then other things do.

So it's not an anti-American sentiment about film. It's just what they like and what they don't. It's crazy. Their tastes. Yeah, exactly. You look at this here. Hollywood has a hot and floridly relationship with China and the 2010s. The Middle Kingdom becoming a key component blockbuster box office,

blah, blah, blah, blah. Since the pandemic, the country has effectively been dead for Hollywood, attempts to launch major titles there are fizzled. As Mike was mentioning here, Avatar the Way of Water, and Godzilla-Vers Kong and Jurassic World Dominion did well, but most other films have not done what. Big Blockbuster films have not done well in China, but all have been oblitered by Zootopia 2.

The Disney sequel took in $272 million from Wednesday to Sunday, including a jaw-dropping $104 million on Saturday, the biggest single-day record for a Hollywood film and beating Avengers Endgame. So $272 million in China. Woo! It's also more than two of the $260 million,

entire gross of the first film in China. So in one weekend, the sequel, destroyed the entire run of Zootopia in China. And it's the second biggest non-Chinese film opening of all time in China behind only Ebender's End game combined with $156 million. The film earned domestically over the five-day holiday, along with $127 million strong haul from other international markets. It's now estimated at $556 million total,

the highest global animated opening of all time and highest global debut of the year. So that is insane to look at those kinds of numbers for China. Yeah, man. That's insane. Yeah, yeah. No, lady, yes, you guessed it. No, Christian today. You guessed it. Good job. This is the thing where you look at, and I'm just kind of blown away by the kind of money. As you said, you don't know what China is into, what they're not into, and what they're going to gravitate to. But, I mean, there is a commonality at times in box office between us and China and certain films kind of break that wall, so to speak. And this is one of those ones that really did.

Yeah, you know, it's like, I know, like Tom Cruise does very well in China. Yes. His films do. Almost his films do better internationally. They do American box office. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then like superheroes are our kind of our thing. But like, yeah, I don't know, man.

It's a cana. I bet there are people pulling their hair out every day in the industry producers and whatnot, trying to figure out China in the box office. But luckily, I don't have to deal with that. I don't care. The thing that's also fascinating is you look at in the box office, is there anything, the wicked for good? I don't know people want to say only 57% drop,

but I do think they wanted something a little lower, like only a 40% drop or 50%. So this tells me that some of the middling reviews and is affecting people going to it, and people going to see it are not going to go see it a number of times to get this thing to a billion. Some people thought it might cross a billion. but it doesn't seem like it's going to get it.

Did the first one hit a billion? I think it did. No, it's like 750 million or something. Really? Okay. I don't think there was, I think maybe when that first trailer dropped, they thought,

oh yeah, this hit a billion, but the reviews heard it. I felt like last year, and again, I had never seen the play. Went with all the boys to the Grove, you know,

and it was like basically their end game. Yeah. Avengers, you know, Infinity War and End game for them. So the experience was just incredible for me. I had such a blast. I love the movie.

But it, felt like when that movie came out to almost all the way through the holidays that was the talk the first one the first one this one i went to the same theater same opening night crowd just massive but you just felt when the movie was over oh like oh yeah it was good it was good not as good as the first and then now i don't really hear much about it from you know online and from the people i'm around so maybe those reviews or you know realize like oh it's not as good the first. It's so great, but I mean, I don't think it's nor hitting a billion. Yeah. Not that that was ever, you know, hit, hit 750 again. Well, it'll be interesting to see

is if it tops the first one in box office. So that'll be interesting. Yeah. I know. That'll be, I, I have a feeling that it won't. And that's the, I don't think so either. Yeah. And that's just utopia two and Zootopia. Too and Zootopia. Clearly, I think, is going to top top his top his top office. But this one, I think, is getting such middling review, wicked for good that it's going to affect it's over and that's the opposite. Like, the reviews for Zotopia, too, are like, that's not as good as the first. Yeah.

But still good. Yeah, and I think it's going to top the first one in box office, whereas Wicked 2, not as good as the first, and I don't think it's going to do what the first one did. I don't know. And you're seeing people already, the discourse has already gotten online, and people are going crazy about it.

But the truth is, it's just not as good as the first one. And I think, you said, like, I think a lot of people come out of the year being like, I enjoyed it, just wasn't as magical as I was hoping, and the ending wasn't as strong. Yeah, yeah. I think that's going to affect things for it. Now, will it affect it's Oscars chances?

We'll see. But certainly box office wise, I don't think it's going to match what the first movie did. And we got Avatar coming, what, in a week? So you got that juggernaut and everyone that's smart is out of the way of that thing. And I don't care what people, like, I'm not an avatar guy. I don't know if you are. I love that.

I'm not an addict. Yeah, yeah. I'm not an addict, but I like the movies. I've seen the first one twice, I think. I've seen the second one once. And I go to the theater and my mind is blown. Yeah. And I'm like, this is insane to me.

And I never think about it again. But anyone that doubts James Cameron and billion dollars is, you're an idiot. I mean, it's not. And I don't think there's anything else this summer that, or winter that's, I can't think of any big movie this winter that's going to even. Yeah. Once Avatar comes out, it's like, it's like that line. And it's like Godzilla.

It's just going to start stomping on everything. And nothing's going to be left underneath its nose. So we'll see. but anything else jump out of you by the box office, anything else that you saw numbers wise that you want to? I'm just disappointed in the running man. Oh, yeah.

I haven't seen it yet. I was saving it. I'm going to go visit my best friend in Texas. And we usually like to catch up on some movies. And that was like, I see a running man together. Yeah. But I'm just disappointed.

That thing dropped like a rock. I mean, I know. It's really. No one liked it. I get it. I haven't seen it yet. So I'm going to give it a shot.

But. Right. And then I think Badlands isn't holding well. I thought that would have some legs. I know it came out a little while ago. but I thought that would have had some legs and apparently it's not doing very well either. Those are the only two that I was

kind of thinking about box office and kind of holding in there, but yeah, well, you know, what is the yeah, Predator Badlines, so it's out, it's gonna, yeah, yeah, exactly. It was 165.7 million worldwide. It is one of the top 25 grosses of 2025, but I get your point, Mike, 165

for a film like this, you were hoping it'd be in the two to 300 million Right. But I also don't think it costs that much. Right, right, right. Right. So they'll, that's not, they're going to make more of those type of films. Oh, yeah. It's on a good streak. So I just wanted to see because it had such a good pop when it came out.

Right. The way it was received was really positive. Yeah. Yeah. On the band base and everything. It's kind of like, right. Like my thing with Superman was, I felt it had to hit 700. But clearly there was enough for it to hit 600 and enough goodwill to restart the franchise.

And now we'll see what we'll. go. So, you know, my estimation of that was a little bit off. But the fact that this much, I think, is a positive. And Badlands, same thing. People wanted to get this franchise revitalized on the big screen. Because remember, Prey and Killer of Killers did not come out on the big screen.

So the fact that this is made as much. That's what a lot of people always says, like, oh, didn't as good as pray. It's like, pray was released on Hulu. Like, for, you know, and it can't, no one knew about it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a different ballgame, man. So I think, I think they're happy. Like, just like with D.C.

and Superman is like, yeah, we got some good. We got the good will going. People like what we're doing. Let's build on this. Now, spending $200 million on your next movie. I don't know, but we'll see. We'll see. 100% 100%.

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as previously reported, a nearly six-minute prologue sequence is being attached to the copies of the one-week IMAX 70-millimeter release of both sinners and one battle after another on December 12. That's apparently a double bill. So it's almost like a grind house, but for Uber film nerds. Previously, it had been reported that the prolog would be with copies of Avatar Firenash. The new reports claim that a cut-down version would appear with copies of Avatar Firenash, something much more akin to a trailer.

Turns out it is a more regular trailer with Daniel. RPC reporting today, my brother there, that a new trailer blocking in a minute and 52 seconds will be attached to all copies of Avatar Firenash. The only thing not clear is if the extended prologue sequence will be limited to the WB re-releases or if IMAX copies of Avatar Fire Nash will also get this prolog sequence. In addition, it's also been rumored that a 50-second one-year-to-go-style tease Avengers Doomsday will also be attached to copies of the new Avatar Fire Nash because, of course, that's the same Disney company.

but that hasn't been confirmed as yet. Nolan's Odyssey already had its one year to go style teaser with copies of Jurassic World Reverth this summer. A rush of trailers is expected in the next few weeks with Comic-Con Brazil next weekend, rumor to include the debut of the teaser trailer for the Supergirl movie, which we just finished talking about, Mike.

And also, there's another report that the Spider-Man trailer will be coming out in January. So we take a little bit of a break in Thanksgiving, but now, dude, things are starting to ramp up big time. what are your thoughts about the Odyssey trailer and this Avengers Doomsday trailer possibly coming in the next couple of weeks? Oh, are you muted?

I think you're muted. Nope, sorry, my fault. I muted myself. Now, is the Odyssey is going to be attached to, if they said what or no? Well, the Odyssey might be attached to the double bill that's coming up on IMAX 70 millimeter. Sinners and one battle after another starting on December 12th.

You're going to come out together. And so they're going to have a six, they're saying they're going to have a six minute prologue sequence attached to that. I mean, because those are two Warner Brothers films. I know. That's weird, right? And he's Odyssey's Universal.

Like, yeah, maybe it's an IMAX thing. Maybe it's, if they'd show the thing in IMAX, he's going to do it in IMAX. Maybe that's going to do it in IMAX. That's true.

He loves that, that Universal City Walk IMAX. That's his thing. For sure. Makes sense. I mean, he did it with the Dark Night Rises. He replaced that whole Bain opening sequence.

So, yeah, it's true. I mean, that's an interesting. interesting thing to to because that will sell out instantly for people that yeah sinners in one bad off another great movies but people will go just to see that trailer or that that prologs so maybe it's a Warner Brothers Universal joint kind of hey used to make good movies over here remember us

give us a little something um yeah man I think I did okay what do you think about the rollout though Michael I mean six minutes for a prologue sequence in for this uh IMAX thing and then a two-minute cut-down version of that, probably a new trailer. Right. That will be attached to Avatar, Fire, and Ash. Like, this is a unique way of rolling out. You and I have been trailers become teasers or teasers,

and then teaser trailer, then trailer, second trailer, final trailer, TV spots. Now we've got two versions of different types of trailers, depending on the movies. I think that that is a special IMAX thing for the two films, double feature. and then the trailer because Avatar, the eyes on that will be incredible.

Yeah, yeah. And it's a Nolan, Nolan's reached this point in his life with his films. It doesn't matter what it is. People are, it's going. So yeah, yeah.

He's one of the few directors now that can get something, people going based on his name. So we'll see. I think it's fascinating that he has this kind of power. Yeah. And that Hollywood respects this kind of power because, I mean,

Avatar, I mean, sorry, one battle after another and sinners is coming out. on 70 millimeter. I think people were excited for that, but both of them had already been out on 70 millimeter. Yeah.

You put in that, but you add in a six-minute prologue sequence. That just heightens the possibility of those screening selling out, making more money. And I also think it gets people in the theaters to see these movies to clamor for awards for these movies. So this is really smart on WB's part to be like,

absolutely. And you say they want to keep that relationship going. Yeah. with Nolan. So yeah. Yeah, and maybe it's a, I mean, part of me is like, well, it's not one of those things like, hey, we got to get people into theaters. Can we do some Odyssey six minutes stuff?

I mean, you know, maybe it is. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. It's just, you know, building the hype for that movie, but it's not like it needs it. I don't think it's, hey, we got to build the hype for this movie. So let's, let's do it everything we can. That's the other element of it is like what is driving?

Right. Nolan just kind of flexing a little bit, like having, Maybe. You know? Yeah. I wonder. What about the Marvel? What about the Avengers Doomsday 50 seconds?

Do you think we need the one year out? Dude, man, I'm in such a shit spot with Mark. Oh, talking Mark. No, no, not talking Marl. Nothing bad. Anytime I have anything that's not remotely praising, D.C. Oh, you're fucking D.C.

Shill. My, my, my, fucking D.C. Like, but I have not. I really like Thunderbolts. I really did. I enjoyed Fantastic Four. I wish it was longer. Yes, I agree with that.

But both films I really enjoyed. Yeah. I'm just not feeling the hype for this movie. Everything about it, everything that's released feels so like we are, we got to give fan service the movie. Yeah. Like it just feels like that.

Like, oh, Evans is not back. But then we see Evans on the red carpet and he's jacked as hell. And he's like, oh, come on now. You know. And it's like, oh, it's the story is him and Peggy Carter because Doom affected this. But we haven't seen him for what, six, seven years. We don't know. And they still have not addressed where he is.

So it's just like, I mean, I was in the room when our DJ was announced and it really tore the house down. That's right. I remember you. Once it's done, I don't think this is a very good choice at all. There's so many questions I have. But hey, it's the Rousseau's. They gave us four of the best Marvel films to date, I believe. leave.

Yeah. In my opinion, I think Winter Soldiers still Marvel's best. So I'm always will be there as a, as a fan cheering that for that success for those guys. But it's a. Yeah. I just have a feeling it's like, let's just get this done. Let's just get to the X-Men. Faggy's like, let me get the X-Men out.

Let me jump ship or not jump ship, but let me go do something else finally. I think they're trying to wrap this multiverse thing up. And I want to be hyped, but I just don't feel it. I have to say, Michael, Mike, I mean, I mean, sorry, I'm in your boat, brother. I'm in your boat. Because I had a conversation with somebody over the week, over the Thanksgiving holiday, who was very connected with Marvel, still has a number of connections with Marvel, people there.

And they told me even more of the dysfunction that's going on behind the scenes around this movie and around their plans for what they're doing and all the Jonathan major's drama and how that all kind of mess them up behind the scenes whatever they're telling you in those PR releases is an utter lie like oh yeah there's talk of me coming back there's always yeah get the hell out exactly like he is never going to be in the room with you again dude exactly but also the idea that they were you know they had a plan in place and they were adapting they were freaking out this is what this is something they were freaking out immediately when all that stuff went down and they weren't sure how to adjust.

And so this is absolutely a panic move. Bringing back RDJ, no matter how much is, oh, we've been talking about it, but sure, you talk about everything at lunch or dinner or whatever. You just get in the coffee,

but like it wasn't a concrete plan. Okay, so this was all done out of a panic move in my opinion. The fact that they're still rewriting some of the scripts or some of the pages. And from what I understand from this person, what they told me, there is a serious upsetness

from the, younger actors and the actors who came in in the last couple phases because essentially the company is saying we don't trust you to carry us into the future so we're bringing back the old team to come back in and that has caused friction you know i reported on two uh two actors in the marvel behind the scenes getting into it and there was talk that they were going to reshoot scenes and all of this stuff to make one actor feel more comfortable because the other actor who had been there for quite some time made an offhand comment that wasn't received well and so went all that. So towards the newer

actor. So there is tension. So you've got that on top of it as well. Plus the expectations, plus the idea of how much Marvel's been struggling lately. There is a lot of drama around Doomsday. And I agree with you. I don't think people are as hyped for this as they were heading into Doomsday and Infinity War. And that could affect things if the film of the film. 100%. I mean, just look at

like what you just said. I mean, in Infinity War and Endgame were what they were because we were. with these people for 10 years. We were invested in these characters' lives. You know, I haven't seen Shang Chi in four years. Right, right. I don't know what he's doing. And then he's out, the actors out there throwing his, you know, that is ill-timed, if

anything, you know, coming up, you're the lead of a, maybe he's not the lead anymore. I mean, I know, I think it was supposed to be, you know, they looked at like him. Yeah. Anthony Mackie and Tatiana Maslani is kind of like, okay, you guys are going to be the three, Yes. And Chadwick Mosbyn, what happened there, that was never going to be planned or thought about. Right, of course. So now, I was sure she didn't really catch on as Black Panther and those people you were going to have, like, as the new Avengers, it's not really, you know.

Yeah. And now you're bringing back Evans and Bucky. He's going to be coming back is in a bigger role, you know, because that's, yeah. But that's not their fault. they didn't give the time to these actors for us to grow with them and see them in a couple of films and fall in love with them or not fall in love with them. But who would have thought Chris Hemser with the store?

We would have fallen in love with. But even after like, you know, you do Dark World, but then you do Ragnarok. And suddenly he's like, everyone wants him. Right. We didn't have those for Shang Chi and stuff like that. So it's, yeah. I feel like there's a sequel to that MCU book that came out, right?

Oh, I just finished, the reign of the MCU. I just finished it. Oh, wow. What a good read. But it does end. You're like, oh, you're ending before the drama. Right. You're ending before the COVID.

Because I think they said they wrote it during COVID. And that's when everything, I think they touch on the last movie. They touch on the three Wanda Vision, Winter Soldier, and Loki. Yes. That's what they really touch on. And they don't really go up. And that's when everything started happening. That book needs a sequel.

I don't. For this entire, because there's 100%. your stuff to explore now. Once people are going to be allowed to talk about it, because I'm sure there's NDAs and all that kind of stuff. They need a sequel. Yeah, 100%. And that's the thing when I look at this situation now is when you look at it

from the outside perspective, like the writers and directors that came in for this most recent phases were not as strong as the writers and directors that were through the first few phases of Marvel. So it happened to coincide with Marvel going a little more diversity, a little more equality, and unfortunately those projects weren't as strong, and so it's seen as

if you go this route, you lose and the truth is, no, the quality of the writers and directors, because they wanted to go with younger writers to save money, they wanted to go with, you know, diverse writers to get a little more opportunity and diverse actors, diverse storylines.

But unfortunately, they didn't deliver bangor content like X-Men 97, which rose above, all the go-woke-go broke bull crap they was above it to deliver a great product that people love but the recent phases didn't do that and so in a way

they're trying to paper over the cracks by bringing back the old team and see if that works but you're causing tension amongst your actors on the set because of that's a lot of egos man that is a lot of egos in those rooms yeah yeah and I don't know if you think about it

like okay you think about back like all those actors in phase one, two, and three were brought up together. And then when you introduce Paul Rod or Benaric Cumberbatch, they were brought in like with welcome arms, like, hey, this is going to be awesome and join us and the team. Now is this, and again, it's not the actor's fault. They were like, hey, you guys are the replacements.

Right, right, right, right. You know, you're the next team coming in or, you know, players are tired. You guys are the rookies. And people just love their, their original legends. It's a sports team. If you bring in a bunch of, you new players, you bring in a shittier coach,

your offensive coordinator, shitter defensive coordinator, and they're not winning. And you go, okay, I'm going to bring in the old players. I'm going to go get the guys. Brady's coming back. Brady's coming back to New England. Yeah, exactly. Brady came back two years ago.

It's like, oh, we got to bring him back. Yeah. Like, that's the thing. And it feels desperate. Yeah. And you're going to piss off your younger players because they're being seen as not the future. That's the message you're sending, you know. Yeah.

And that messes with people's. egos. And I think that's a lot of ego there. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Let's move on to another story here. We spent a lot of time on that. And so another thing is, speaking of Avengers Doom's Day, let's wrap up by talking about this situation as well. Avengers Doom is apparently going more practical. While many of the key crew on Marvel Studios' upcoming Avengers Doom's Day are

returnees from past Marvel Studios efforts like End Games editor Jeffrey Ford and composer Alan Silvestri. There's also some new faces. One is cinematographer, Newton Thomas Siegel, who worked on Fox's X-Men Days of Future Pass, one of my favorite films, and with the Rousseau's on films like extraction and cherry, but hasn't done an MCU film before. Another is the movie's production designer Gavin Bocquet, who served as production designer George Lucas's Star Wars prequel trilogy, Young Indian Jones series, and films like Stardust, Warcraft, The Bank Job, and the most recent Apple TV series, Silo. Buket is an old-school production designer in a new interview and in a new interview

with YouTube channel young Indy Chronicles, he reveals he's bringing some of the expertise to the new film. The result is a lot more in-camera set design and practical effects where possible. Quote, we had a lot of sets with backings outside them, physical backings, and generally the default situation previous to us was probably, let's put a blue screen out there and do that.

But wherever possible, we either had a Roscoe backing that we created ourselves or a painted backing on, I think, 80% of interior sets with backings. Then it was all in camera, you know, and in the end, that's as much a visual, thing as a money thing, you know, if they don't have to change the exterior. So wherever we could, we're bringing that bit of experience in just to adjust things and not just presume you can always put it in visual effects.

You know, filmmaking is the art of illusion. And if we can do it physically and Joe and Anthony Russo love that, we can only do it in certain instances by the nature of these films and the characters in them and the environments that you're doing. But wherever possible, why not try those things? So Buket also elaborates on how the Stinger credit scene in Thunderbolts used a practical backdrop and how the actors were actually pretty astonished as they were used to so used to Marvel's pension to rely on blue screen. So does that help things, Michael, in your mind, the fact that they're going a little more practical.

People are talking about acting opposite tennis balls and blue screens and green screens. What do you thought? Yeah, you know, I love practical. You know, that's anytime you can do practical is better in my opinion. But I don't know how much weight that is. I mean, they've already said, you know, Alan Cummings, like, I was in a green room. And they were feeding me lines. I don't know who I was with, but that's what I was doing. Right. And again, when you've got a production that that's big, with that many casts, you have to find ways to make them all work.

But yeah, yeah. Who knows, man. I mean, again, I think this movie for me is always, it's going to be a, you know, show, show me, don't tell me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I just am going to, and, you know, my fear for myself is always that, I don't want to call it nostalgia bait because that's not the right word,

but when I see Chris Evans' cap again, and that just hits right. But then when you were taken out of it, you look back and you're like, that wasn't really good. Right. Yeah, it hit the moments for me. Like for me, okay, great example.

I just, the Flash. Yeah. So much of that movie hit for me because the music with Keaton and the Wayne Manor, like it just hit the right notes for me. Right. But then when I look back, I'm like, that's not really good.

And there's some TGI that there's a, story that's really good in there that I do love, but there's some CGI that's terrible. Some decisions that are bad. I've never liked Ezra's The Flash, but because it was Keaton as Batman, it gets a pass for me and a lot of stuff. And I think that this film might do that

for me. I'm not a critic, so it doesn't matter what I think, but I don't know. It doesn't matter. It matters, but it's just like, I hope it's just not like, I get that feeling and I walk away, it's like, wasn't good. I got C Evans again as Cap, but that's cool. I just wanted to be, but

I don't know. You know. So see, if there's practical effects, okay. Yeah. I mean, I think the practical effects or the visual effects or the special effects are all a great discussion. Yeah.

But as Michael, as Mike just said, it doesn't matter if the movie isn't good, right? It's not going to matter if any of this stuff works or doesn't work if the movie isn't good. Now, you hope it does work for sure. Because practical effects,

I always prefer practical effects. Yeah. Great example. I was, I think it was reading, I think it was in that MCU book. they talk about the end game battle and they built kind of like

the Avengers Compon destroyed and there was like a lot of trees and roots and they said once we were filming it didn't look good because it just looked like why are the roots of trees or so we had to digitally edit these out I don't even care I can't even think about the set that they were on

because of how great that and it was a lot of CGI but the emotionality of that end game like the end fight didn't matter because you build up for 15 years to that moment I could have cared less that they were on a giant green screen stage.

Yeah, yeah. It just was awesome. Good point. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. It works. When it works, it works. And when it does, it doesn't.

But I think a lot of people do like practical effects. So yeah, I think that's one of the big reasons people loved some of the, when Star Wars came back, Force Awakens. Yeah, man. It was much more practical. They enjoyed that. So hopefully that's one of the reasons why they're going that

because people do like seeing practical effects. We will see. All right. Let's get into one more. story, what else have we got to here? We've talked about Odyssey, we've talked about Supergirl, Avengers Doomsday? Oh, the Starfighters. Do you want to get into some Star Wars? If we haven't talked about controversy, let's get into some Star Wars. All right, let's go. Star Wars' Starfighter ending has apparently changed.

Filmmaker, Sean Levy has revealed that his upcoming and currently shooting Star Wars Star Wars, Starfighter feature, has undergone a major change during production, set roughly five years after the events of Star Wars, The Rise of Skywalker. Ryan Gossin leaves the film as a character who must protect the young boy, played by Flynn Gray. It has been rumored. The boy has forced powers. It will potentially end up at a Jedi temple to ultimately train with Ray, but that's only been speculation.

Speaking on film with Kevin McCarthy, I love Kevin, the podcast recently, the A night of the media, sorry, let me give this again. Speaking on film with Kevin McCarthy podcast recently, Sean Levy says the original plan for the film's third act has been tossed out because a better idea came along. Quote, we had a whole different idea for something in the third act, and then things didn't align.

and I was forced to come up with a new idea. And I'm literally right now shooting that section of the movie. And every day, I'm grateful that the way I was supposed to do it didn't work out because the new idea that it forced me to explore is so much better than the original idea would have been. He also said that working with the Star Wars movie is a completely different experience to work on some of the other blockbusters. He's done.

Quote, it's harder and more unique pressure than any other movie you can make because you go into it, understanding how deeply emotional connection with audiences is. You could argue that's true of Marvel. That's true of other franchises. But nothing is as religious and allegiance as Star Wars. And so the need, the pressure is self-inflicted mostly to get it right. That's intense. So, Michael, what do you, Mike, what are your thoughts on this? The idea that he changed his idea now saying that his original idea is not as good as the idea they came up with. And this is, of course, on the heels of him saying last week, last week that he's never felt more freedom. He's never felt more creativity, creative freedom to do

what he wants to do with Star Wars and Kathleen Kenny left him alone, but it sounds like maybe they didn't leave him alone if they changed I don't know, man. I think you know, it's always great when a director is not so set in his ways where he's like, you know what? That's better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not working. That's better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, again, I have no idea if it was the inclusion of Ray stuff. Yeah. Maybe the Jedi Temple was the original ending, but, you know, I was, when we, when I talk with this with Harlov. I really don't want any connection to Ray or any of that stuff.

But we were like, no, if he's with some kid, this kid's going to be dropped off at a temple somewhere at the end because he's forced sensitive and Ray's going to come out and you know, because they got to tie it together. Yeah. Because, you know, it's galaxy far, far away, but it's, you know, a small, small galaxy because everyone

knows everyone and everyone's got to, you know. Like, I just wanted, yeah, I just wanted us to be some Starfighter. He's off on his own, badass pilot. Yeah. And a Star Wars movie. But hey, they got a whole new thing to set up with they're dealing with over there. So more power to them. I'll be there to watch it. I think the change is fascinating when you, because especially as I said, Sean last week talked about how he's never had more creative. They left me alone. Kathleen said, do what you

want to do and all this, all this thing. Again, you have to always be aware of things as fans. I know some of you go, oh, this is bullshit. But the truth is that there's always PR spin on everything. Everything the directors say, everything these executives say, everything these actors say, everything that gets put out there is PR spin to make the film look as good as possible. What's the thing that people talked about, rage at Kathleen Kennedy has too much control, too much control. What does Sean Levy do? He comes out and he says, I've never felt more freedom. I've never felt more peace. This is great.

It's amazing. Kathleen said I could do what I want. So that's addressing those issues people have had for years about Kathleen Kennedy. But what happens today, he comes over with this interview. you, he says on the podcast with Kevin, hey, I had to change a massive thing in the third act. And Michael, I think you're in, Mike, I think you're in sync is right.

I think it is a Ray situation. I think that movie is not going to see the light of day now. And I think they are moving away from it. And don't forget, Kathy Kennedy is stepping down, rumor to be stepping down next year. There's going to be new people in charge. And the new people in charge may not want Starfighter

to lead to a Ray movie, because the Ray movie has been Kathleen Kennedy's project. passion project for years now. She brought back Daisy. And so to me, I mean, I think they're changing that ending because I think they're going to announce that that Ray movie is no longer a go. And they're going to move towards another direction.

And I don't think it's a coincidence that a couple of years ago, Adam Driver came out and said, hey, we had a whole thing with Kylo Ren that we were working on. And people are like, bring that, bring me that. So I think people are changing. So it's not surprising to me. And of course, John's got to put a positive spin on it. and say, oh, it's better than the thing I had come up with, you know, to keep the hype going. Yeah, you're right.

I mean, yeah, I don't know, man. We'll see. I don't know. I like this comment. Roka likes drama. Oh, my God. Bitch, Hollywood is drama. Okay?

That's the truth. That's all drama behind the scenes. You guys who don't live here have had no experience living in Los Angeles. You have no idea how much drama goes on behind the scenes with all of these productions. all of these organizations, all of these companies and all of these franchises because of the egos involved

and the money involved, right? I know, yeah. So it's not me loving the drama, it's me telling you, there is a lot of drama behind the scenes. Yeah, it's, it is what is, come on now. We'll see, we'll see when it comes down. Is there anything else Starfighter wise?

Oh, yeah, Starfighter, speaking on, he also said this, Levy, about, Levy says he knows, about the film, Levy says he knows the titles fans refer to, but Return of the Jedi is the one that he's chasing tone-wise with Starfighter. He said, quote, if I'm being honest, I know the cool answer

would be Empire and sort of inarguably answer would be a new hope, but it's kind of Jedi. It's Jedi because the combo of theme, levity, adventure, Hart, Spettkel, somehow that movie just got it right for me. So that's a four-quadrant film, Mike, so that seems to make sense. Yeah. It would appeal across the board, right?

Yeah, that, I get what he's saying when he says Return of the Jedi versus Empire. I do get that yeah right he's trying to make a little more yeah yeah yeah so in that kind of sense yeah exactly um so yeah so i like that okay all right well that's all the stories we have uh mike we're gonna answer some questions here in just a second we got 72 questions we'd love to get 100 uh before we wrap up here so send in your super chats before we jump into it though let's get some uh some commercials going and let us know what you thought about the topics we talked about here with starfighter

let us know what you thought about the the marvel stuff where are you at with the marvel stuff Where are you out emotionally about Avengers Doomsday? What do you think about the practical effects approach? What do you think about the Odyssey trailer going as a six-minute prologue sequence? And then a two-minute one with Avatar Fire Nation, and what do you think about here going on with Star Wars Starfighter? Do you believe Sean Levy when he says he made the change for the good of the movie? And that what he had came up with wasn't as good as what he was forced.

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Are you ready? Once you unmute yourself, are you ready? Now I'm ready. Let's get it on. All right, Johnny Patrice says, Roca, do you think you could be Arsenal? This could be Arsenal's year. That's a soccer question, Premier League. Absolutely.

If Arsenal doesn't do it now with Liverpool playing like crap, Man City not being as strong, Chelsea not being as strong, then they really never deserved to win a title at all ever again. At Greenie Formwell says, what's a game you grew up with that you'd love them to make a movie of? Mine's Crash Bandicoke. Yeah, Mike, you're a big game player. Anything that you'd love to see them make a movie of?

I like them to do an actual uncharted movie and not whatever we got with that. Wow. Come on, now that was uncharted. No, I'm sorry. I don't accept that. I don't accept that movie. I mean, have you picked up any of the new games?

Dude, dude. Have you picked up Call of Duty 7? Have you picked up any of this? I heard Call of Duty 7 is terrible. I'm a Call of Duty guy, but I just, and I saw some videos from it. I'm like, oh, man, this doesn't look good at all. And I'm a campaign player as well in those games, and I heard it wasn't good. So I don't know if I'll pick it up.

Maybe it goes on sale or something I might grab it. But is there a game you played recently that you've played recently that you really enjoy that you were surprised how much you enjoyed? I haven't bought a game in a long time. I've been just playing Call of Duty. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, man.

Six was good, but six was good. Six is great. I love six. Yeah, man. That's a discount now on Black Friday, so I might think. Yeah, six is good. Six is good. Okay.

Derek Johnson sending us a bunch of support. Thank you, Derek. Always great to see you in here, brother. Eric's back, baby. I was going to highlight all the number of supports that you sent us, which we appreciate. So thank you, Derek. so many numbers of support here. Thank you, Derek. We got a new member here at LJ Films.

Oh, hey, what's up, man? LJ Films 1. It became a YouTube member. Oh, good to see you. I've seen him on my channel as well. Derek, thank you, Derek, coming back. And he said, and at G.R. Zarned God. Go, pal, says early support. I've got a call during the show. Well, thank you, go, pal. And then more from Derek. Pumping up our numbers here. Thank you, Derek. Appreciate it madly.

You are amazing. And you are the best. And LJ Films comes in and says, hope we both had a good Thanksgiving. Finish Ghosts of Yote. Brilliant. Which DC character would voice in an animated project if you could, which DC character would you voice in an animated project if you could choose?

Ooh. Do you have an answer or no, just yet? If I wanted to do a DC character animated? Yeah. Huh. That's a good one. I'd say I'm going to go. I like going to obscure with.

these characters. Because everyone usually like Animal Man. Animal Man or Blue Beetle, like Ted Cored Blue Beetle. Yeah. Yeah. I know. There's too many good Batman's and Green Lanterns out there. I don't do an obscure character. You'd be a great Ted Cord Blue Beetle. Yeah, that would be fun.

I think I'd have to go. I mean, I'd love to do Harvey Dent. I've always had a... Ooh, that's a good one. I love to. Obviously, Batman is, but like two phases where I would love to go and play around with that. So, yeah, man. That's a good answer. And as Ghost of Yote, I'm halfway through. I just got to Mount Yote.

So I'm going to have to face that guy and fight him. So it is a rough, rough game that I thoroughly enjoy it. Gen X, Kid, 73, says, I broke and Mike. I hope your feast giving had zero dry turkey and maximum friendly gobbles. Steve and gobble friendly, baby. It was very, very dry, not dry. Very not dry. Agreed.

RQM, SMD says support for John and Mike and Mike's dogs. December. You got more than one now? I got two. What? Yeah, you don't know about, yeah, Samson. Yeah. Indian Samson. Oh, nice. Yeah, he's over there. They're both sleep. They've both been good today. So, yeah, I'm going to not jinx it. They've been good.

Elmer film says, I recommend the film Black 47, set in 1800s, Ireland. Okay. I never heard of that. Black 47. Well, Matt Nost used to try to convince me to watch that show. We were doing the top of the movie. Matt Nost. But I haven't seen it yet. So I got to watch it. of point. Dingus McNally says, support for the boys. Mike, can you show Rocha? What's the sound that can cranberry makes? Oh, God. All right. So Sarah Hoots, the girl that we went to Thanksgiving with, she loves old school cranberry.

Oh, nice. She's like, I don't like the good stuff. I like it in a can. I go, you like the kind of you got to slop out of the can. Like, you know, you got to shake the kid. Yeah, of course. Yeah. And then it plops out. She fucking loves that shit. It's my thing. But, yeah. Falter, I'm still a stove top stuffing guy, even though I know. Hey, I love stove tops too. I'm not cranberry guy, but soap tops. Hell yeah. Thank you, Derek, for some more support here. Derek Johnson coming in. Appreciate you, Derek. Jenice Kid 73 says, Roka Mike Combo, blessed my day. I adore you all. Oh, thank you. Thanks, boy. That's very kind. Tom Hacks is in here. Tom Hanks 4585. I love Zootopia, but someone brought in their one-year-old, oof. He cried loudly twice until the family finally left. I don't get

people. Yeah, I can see it. I understand why, but yeah. I go two ways on it. One, they probably couldn't afford a sitter. And nowadays with the economy, a lot of people can't afford those extra luxuries, like a babysitter for a child. And then you go, well, then why go to the movie?

And it's like, well, they want to go see a movie and think they can keep their child quiet. It's a chance they took. So unfortunately, welcome a society. Yeah. Jack's kiddows is, I can't wait for Christian to drop the avatar, that avatar tea, waiting on his thoughts like it's premiere. yes he will drop his out of theater reaction later on when he gets out of the theater which i imagine

the next couple hours since the three hour and 15 minute movie probably won't be till this afternoon that he drops his thoughts on it so look for that thank you derrick for more support a genics key for more support thank you derrick uh nathan drake in here 253 says uh they closed all the boston markets in florida i loved that place i bought my thanksgiving dinner from samms club was really good Yeah, I was saying before you came on, Mike, at this top of the show, that I, to people who had their Thanksgiving spent it alone, I did that a couple of years ago and just went and got me a feast at the Boston market here in San Diego. It cost me like $70 to get all this stuff.

So I've been there. But yeah, they've been closed in Boston markets. We used to have one in the Valley or in the North Hollywood. Is that still around? There was one near Burbank. I would say three, four blocks from me. But that closed a while ago. That was a couple years ago.

Yeah, remember eating at that one for sure. Derek, for more support. Thank you. Jenice Kid says, get my guys to $150 and above, peeps. Wow, I would love one at 50. We're at 81 super chats right now. We'd love to get 70 more. That'd be great.

Derek Johnson, more support. Thank you, Derek. All right, Dingus McNally says, love Zootopia 2. The mystery was just as good as the first one. Do you think we get Zootopia 3 earlier than having to wait 10 years like the second one? Hmm. I don't know. I would say yes, because I think we had to wait through COVID for the last one,

and I don't anticipate we'll have another COVID coming to us soon. So, yeah, I think it would be a lot sooner. The question becomes, do they make $60 million like, for two of them, like Kristen Bell and Edina and Josh Gadge have signed those deals for $60 million from Frozen and the three and four? So we'll see if that plays out. But, yeah, good money in that voiceover gigman. Do you at China says, hey, haven't super chat in a bit. Love Roca and Mike with the announcement of the Jimmy Olson show.

I am sick of Gunn skipping over Batman again. And again, I feel like Gunn is trolling Batman fans. Yeah, what do you thoughts on that, Mike? What do you think Gun is on the Batman? Oh, yeah. It's such a tough thing, man. I don't know. I know it's a priority.

I would assume it's a priority for them. Yeah. But like he said, it's like we're not rushing anything that's not ready. Yeah. And I think that's smart. We do have a Batman coming with Matt Reeves and his Batman. So I think that might have taken a little bit of either the pressure off or maybe it's cause pressure. But I think he's doing Superman.

He did Peacemaker. Like that's his wheel, what he's doing. That's the characters he's doing. So I think the ideas are flowing much freer with that. And we'll get there. We'll get there. I'd rather it done right than be half asked. That's a fair point.

Yeah, for sure. You want it to be correct. What are your thoughts on the whole, let's a bigger conversation. What are you thoughts on the whole drama around WB being sold? And there's all kinds of reports about where the gun will continue, not continue. Like where are you as a DC fan? Where are you at on this stuff? I hope I want him to continue.

Yeah. And I think because DC Studios is a separate kind of thing now. Yeah. I mean Warner Brothers produces this stuff. I don't understand why WB selling in the first place. After the year that they've had, I don't understand why they're selling. Like it seems like they're not financially hurting. Yeah.

And I thought Paramount was in trouble, but I guess Skydance buying them or talking with them gave them life. So I'm just curious why they're selling. And I'm never for less studios. Right, right. It sucks. So it's a matter of Zazlov coming in with the intention to prepare the studio to sell. Yeah. But I hear your logic.

You know, you're like, well, why should we sell now when we're doing so well, run or run? We've got T.C. now. revitalized, why should we sell at this point when there's an open chance for us to become an even bigger power player where we're the one buying studios not being bought. I just think it's a cross purposes right now and I wonder if the board is going to have something to say to Zaslov about how they're going to handle this going forward because a lot of people think that they're going to make the sale quickly. Paramount's going to come in with some massive bid and that's that. Jeff is convinced on the hot mic that they're going to push this to April because

Warner Brothers wants to do the split where it's the studios on one side and all the TV stuff on another side. That could be. Yeah, yeah. It's very possible. Everything's up in the air right now. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I really have no idea. I don't understand it. Conradot 0404 says, I love Zootopia

too. I laughed more than the kids. I love the side animal jokes. There you go. Okay. Yeah. Jedi Super Sion 3 says Zootobia is big at Disneyland Shanghai, so I think that's playing a big part of the box office boom oh that makes sense right so in shanghai china they've you know got people excited about it so yeah that makes sense derrick johnson more thank you

derrick genics kid back saying this utopia sequel could hit a billion animated magic plus repeat views is key to its success post christmas run like moana totally possible yeah yeah oh yeah i think people like the movie so going in more and more i think the way would be amazing uh johnny petriza 9790s says who had more smote out matches out of you two oh i think mike had more right with the inner geekdom stuff um just because i did compete in inner geekdom probably me yeah yeah just just because of i just doing that lee extra league yeah they could be why yeah yeah because mike was doing the main stuff the well what i consider the main stuff and yeah the tag team stuff and inner geekdom stuff right yeah that's a lot i don't even know if you ventured into the

star war side of things but there was a i i toyed with it for about five seconds and then I watched a couple matches live. I was like, no, no, thank you. Yeah, not for me. You're funny, you asked a question, Johnny, because I spent a few minutes the other night, like before I passed out, playing on the Shmodown app.

I have not. You've done that recently? Yeah, I have not touched the app in years, dude. And I was, like, scrolling through my phone. And I, all the way to the end, I had, because I was getting rid of some old apps and stuff. And then I saw it, I was like, oh, my God, it's still on, does it work?

And sure enough, I played it. I mean, it was fun. It was fun to play again. I played you a couple times. I played Rachel. I played Wiley and I played a couple of them. And I was like, this is, and the matches are quick because you can skip through all the intros and get right to the question.

So the app is still a lot of fun. I wish we'd gotten that app to be really good and got worked out. Right. But it was a lot. It's a lot of fun to still play. Yeah, no, it was good and the questions were good on there. I would always use that before like a big match because it got the hard of you hire you up.

I mean, I never beat the game. I never beat. Yeah. I got kind of close at the end there. Yeah. I was never able to beat it. It gets tough.

Yeah. There were some, yeah, there were some questions of films I never even heard of. Yeah. What the hell? So yeah.

Yeah. A lot of fun. Nathan Drake says, if Avatar reviews poorly, will it still hit a billion? Yes. Yes. It's a question.

If there's any section of fandom, don't give a fuck what the critics think about their movies, it's fucking Avatar fandom. I love it. There was one quote from Cameron. He's like, yeah, if this movie doesn't work, it doesn't hit well. It's not successful.

I'm not going to do the fourth one. And I'm like, okay. Not that he wouldn't do the fourth one, but this is not going to be successful. I'm like, he's hedging his bets, but I was like, if one guy doesn't need to hedge his bets, it's that guy. Yeah, 100%.

I agree with you there. Thank you, Derek, for more support. Appreciate your brother. You're so good to come in with that. Nathan Drake says, if either of you fans of the classic John Wu films, The killer and hard-boiled recently got 4K releases for $50 a piece,

a little pricey, but I want them both. Well, what? Have you seen any of these? I've seen The Killer and Better Tomorrow, I think it is, and many, many years ago. Yeah. Jabu was very stylized for me to the point that I didn't, I like face off, I like Hard Target, his American stuff.

But yeah, maybe I was a little, it just didn't work for me. Yeah, no, I love his stylized action stuff from Hong Kong. So the killer is one of my favorites. That's the first John Wu film I ever saw. Then I saw hard boiled after that. And like I said, bet it tomorrow. And there's a samurai one he did as well that I picked up on Criterion recently.

Oh. That I haven't never watched, but it's John Wu and I wanted to buy it. So I bought it. And I, of course, I worked with him on Windtoggers. And Michael did it, which was a lot of fun. And so, like, I love John Wu to pieces. But Mike's right. His American stuff never really transferred over as strongly as it should have.

It's because he tried to make Eastern films in a Western context, and it doesn't work. His sensibility for that doesn't work. Hard Target's a fun, guilty pleasure. Face-off, a fun guilty pleasure. But overall, I mean, payback is not a good movie, and you're wasting Uma and Ben Affleck in that movie. Wu did Payback?

Yeah, don't you remember? I remember the movie because he had all the different pieces and he had to put it. I don't know. It was Wu? Wow. Okay. Yeah. shit. I actually like that movie, but

No, wait, paycheck. Paycheck. Sorry, paid, right? Isn't that the one paycheck? The one Ben Affleck and yeah, paycheck, right? Aaron Eckhart. Yeah, paycheck. You're right with the character. I just don't know the name, but I know exactly the movie is like a mind thing and he gets his mind switched around. Yeah, I remember. I didn't just know it was John Wu. Yeah, it was Ben Affleck, Aaron Eckhart and Uma Thurman. And I remember

doing that DVD testing job having to watch that movie over and over the boat. But yeah. thank you Derek for more support. Appreciate your brother. Oh, and Nathan, 50 bucks is a lot, which is why I hesitated to buy. I mean, if it had gone down for Black Friday, I would have bought The Killer for sure, but they didn't bring it down on anywhere,

so I have to wait on that. DUI Chm says, Mighty Roka. Did you ever discuss any of your shows, your thoughts on Star Trek Strang's New World Season 3, if not thoughts? I haven't finished it, bro. And one of the reasons I haven't finished is people like you saying that the season wasn't that great.

And with everything I have to watch right now in the middle of voting for Critics Choice and the Hollywood Creative Alliance. I just don't have time to finish off shows yet. Maybe in January. I'll go back and finish off Star Trek Strange New Worlds. But yeah, right now I have to watch all the things to send in my ballot.

And luckily, I got all the movies from Critics Choice. Like, I just got Marty Supreme on the app. So I'll be watching that again. So there's, I've got to watch all kinds of stuff before I vote. So until then, I won't go back to see Star Trek Strange the World, sadly. Derek, thank you, Derek. Dingus says watch Snowpiercer for the first time the other night and it changed my perspective on Chris Evans as an actor.

What was a movie that did the same thing for you about an actor? Oh, good question. My answer is Jennifer Connolly, Requiem for a Dream. Oh, I never thought she was that, you know, that much of an actress. Labyrinth is fine. Career opportunities is fine, fun, things. But when she did Requiem, I'm like, who the fuck is this now? and she's been incredible ever since

and I love her as an actress and whenever she's in something, I know she's going to be good. I got two. I would think either Jillen Hall and Nightcrawler or maybe Hugh Jackman and, what was it, prisoners? Oh, yeah, the new film.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe either. But again, I love both those actors anyway, but I just never thought that they had Yeah. It didn't. I'm like that. I mean,

okay, or I'll say this. Cruz, when he did Tropic Thunder and Austin Powers. Yeah. The comedy. You never saw that level of like,

just didn't care what he looked like. Let his appearance change and, you know. So, yeah, those are actors that I've loved, but also changed my opinion of them. Like,

oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. I think Charlese for Monster as well. Oh, yeah, yeah. Charlis was good actress. It never felt she was a bad actress. Right.

Monsters when she went next level and you didn't know she was capable of it. It wasn't about her gaining weight or uglying her face up. It was the performance. It was the performance. And so it's amazing what she did there. Yeah. Derek Johnson. Thank you, Derek.

More support here. Paul Hitchcock says, What's worse than waking up whether Richard drawn on your face? Finding out it was traced. Oh, geez. You should probably not hang out with those people. a suggestion. Thank you, Derek. Begill Studio

says, can't wait for the break to end so I can get back on set in my connected superhero universe. Boy should watch my last three projects before the new one drops called the Protectors Heroes United. I don't know anything about this. Do you want anything about these? I don't. No.

Yeah, Beagle put the names in there so people can find out with those films. Yeah, please do. Thank you, Derek. More support. Appreciate you, brother. Appreciate you madly. Jim 1-4-2 says 10 years since Force Awakens is the legacy tainted. Not for me. I still love that movie.

Mike, what do you think? Oh, is the movie tainted or is just Star Wars in general tainted? I think the legacy of Force Awakens is it. No, I really like that movie. You know, I mean, warts and all, I think, you know, it's a remake of New Hope, but that's okay. Yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed it for what it was. and I still love the movie.

I still think Daisy's a damn good in that film. I love her to pieces. I love all the new stuff she's been doing too, like kind of breaking out and doing weird, interesting films. So, yeah, I don't think the legacy is tainted at all. Whatever those other two films were, whether you like them or didn't like them, Force Awakens still solid.

So, yeah. Carlton Rutter London calling. What up, Carlton? Treating myself to a 55-inch Q-L-E-L-D-T-B in the Black Friday sale. Roll on my home cinema. What size TV do you watch? your movies on you guys uh mine's i think it 70 yeah we got it black friday i think during covid yeah we were out we had a good tv before that's really good one and we're sitting there

and i just it was like so it's it's probably no it's november of 2020 and in september of 2020 i was able to get a PS5 i just happened to be on amazon when they went on sale and lucked out and got one and so we're sitting in black friday walk around and just she's we're looking at the TV as like we don't need a new TV and she goes yeah babe but just think of how good your video games on that PS5 will look on a new TV and I was like ring it up fucking ring it up she got me let's go it's rare when the it's rare when the woman is convincing you to buy yeah she was like your video games will still look good on this it looks so good you got me you got it bring it up yeah I did the same thing a couple of years ago

black Friday I bought a 77 incher uh at Best Buy that That's the main living room one. The one in my office is 65. But dude, they had an 83 inch for 2000 at the Costco. Oled, LG OLED. Oh, boy. And I was this close, man. As I'm like, dude, 83 inches.

I want it so bad. We have bookcases and like I can't go too much bigger. But is yours mounted on a wall? No. Well, we use it. I can't do that. Shannon wants it mounted on a wall. She wants that,

like, have you seen it? They're like frames and it makes it look like a picture. Yes, yes. I'm like, she wants one of those. I'm like, oh, Christ.

Yeah, I can't do the wall mounted TVs. I have an issue with that as well. I like to be able to move my TV up and time. Yeah. I have a thing where I can move the TV up and down, depending on where you go to. But yeah,

the 83 inch of, I was like, but, you know, it was only two years ago with about 77. so I got to wait. I think we might be moving, so I got to wait. I got to wait.

Yeah. Heart epitaph says elusive rock. My faith theory so far is strange saw a stark-looking doom in Infinity War. Maybe Strange was afraid of doom, and that's why he gave the time gem to Thanos.

I don't know. That's a lot. That's deep cut, man. Yeah. Stark-looking doom in Infinity, where every strange was afraid of doom, and that's why he gave the time time. Maybe.

That's a very popular. possible. There's no way they're not going back and messing with Infinity War or Endgame in some way. Yeah. You're bringing back all the old crew. So your theory might be right. Thank you, Derek. Dingus McNally says, more support for Mike and Roker. Did you guys see Stranger Things Volume 1? If so, what are your thoughts on it? I did not because I had to wait for the lady outlaw to come back from her Thanksgiving trip

with her family. So we have watched every episode of Stranger Things together. So I wasn't going to break the streak now. So we're going to watch those in the next couple of days. Mike, did you get a chance to see them? Uh, people know me. No, I have never seen an episode of Stranger Things. Yeah. Yep.

I'm that guy. And I know everyone's like, Mike, 80s, you'll love it. I just haven't gotten around to it. And will I? Probably not. Okay. I don't know. Okay.

It's just not my thing. Mark Jason Ali says, uh, became a YouTube member. Thank you, Mark. Appreciate you joining Christian Harloff show, uh, channel rather. Derek, thank you, Derek, for more support. Joey Beddras in here. What's up, Joe? Joey. Not sure if this counts for the weekly total, but sharing my monthly member chat with you all.

Thank you, Joe. Appreciate it. And Kevin, or hey, Mr. C.J. says, thanks for a great Monday show. Thank you, Mr. C.J. for, now, by the way, we're at 98 super chats right now. So we're two away from 100. Get us over the line. KJ. 747. 747 says, I love Popeye's Cajun Turkey. Have you guys ever tried it? Are you open to a new experience? Mike, have you ever tried this? I'll tell you this. We were talking turkeys at the Thanksgiving with all of us around. And my girlfriend had said, guys, have you ever had a Popeye's turkey? Because they're incredible.

Yeah. Yeah. So she's all, maybe it was the Cajun one, but she is all about Popeye's turkeys. We did it for three years in a row here in San Diego. Because my partner's sister, she loves the Popeye's turkey. So since her and her boyfriend were coming down, three years in the, We got them. And I'll tell you this, I'd never heard of it before my entire life.

But this was something that they had known about. And you have to order it ahead of time, like a month ahead of- Oh, I'll bet. I'll bet. And then you've got to pick it up on the Wednesday, and they tell you exactly what to do with it. But damn, if it isn't worth it. It is some damn good turkey. So I get it, man.

IM2 Fly Camp says, no stranger things, news reviews, reactions soon. We'll probably review it on the geek buddies once we all watch it. But no, no, I'm thinking right now. I don't know if Christian's doing anything. Derek, thank you, Derek. Atomic Brunette says, seeing Wake Up Dead Man tomorrow with Ryan Johnson Q&A afterwards. Are you guys excited for it?

I'm halfway through it right now. I'm loving it. It's much better than the second one already. But Mike, are you interested to see the knives up? I'll see it, yeah. I didn't. I saw the second one. Yeah.

I enjoyed it, but it just wasn't the first one. Right. So, yeah. I'll, of course, see this one. Yeah. This one's much more like old. school English mysteries like in a small town.

Okay. Of course it's all Americans, but it's, it's in terms of the characters, the actors, but I think it's good. I said halfway through it, I'm really enjoying you.

All right. Tim L. Simpson says, hey, y'all about to fly back home from Thanksgiving with Zootopia's two success and Avatar's third film coming up. Where do you see Disney at with its MCU films, Tran Ares and other films falling short? Like,

what do you mean? Is it where did I see them? Like, they're in trouble. they're hurting yeah they'll get i think they will absolutely get it worked out but it might take some time yeah i think it's like everything else recently it's a mixed bag right

with animation stuff which is what they do really well for many many many years now no surprise they've got success with zootopia avatar that's a cameron thing and so it's like yeah that's completely it's not disney's got nothing to do with that that's all cameron doing what he's doing he's just doing it under the auspices of disney but yeah try on

I'm not surprised that crashed and burned. It wasn't, you know, Korn has always been a mixed bag. And so now you see where you go. But MCU, I think everything hinges on Doomsday, man. If Doomsday is a crap fest, they're in some real trouble. They're in some real trouble. Dennis Kitz says, work calls, work mode on.

Love y'all. Keep the vibe. Slay the day and keep viving. Thank you, Jeff. Derek, with more support. Thank you, Derek. Thank you, Derek. Jared, 846, says, I just rewatch Peter Berg's Very Bad Things.

underrated movie, which I still love. You ever seen that one? That's the Bachelor Party, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, very good movie. With Cameron Diaz. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, great ending. Yeah, very bad things.

I like Peter Berg as a director. I think he's too. Good, yeah. Deepwater Horizon is one of my favorite underappreciated films of the last thing. I enjoy him. Yeah, yeah, very good stuff. Let's see.

That Mike Mavers, his thoughts on films with long exposition, such as Mission Possible 8. Michael, you're a Mission Impossible guy. I am. I love, I mean, for me, but Mission Impossible is Exposition. That's the old TV show is that way. It was just, I get it. There are a lot of people, I think, that came on board with the mission series with fallout.

Like in Rogue Nation, where the over-the-top action and these incredible, they think of them as more as action movies. Whereas I think of them more as spy thrillers with that great action in them. So I don't mind Exposition. As long as it's done well, I don't mind it. Wow. But I will say this. I do see the faults with Mission 8 and the people having issues with it. I do see it.

Right. But it just didn't bother me. I'm with you. I'm a big, much, an impossible guy too. Like Mike is the top. I'm just like right below Mike in terms of my fandom of Mission Impossible series. But like I didn't mind eight. I liked eight.

I understand people's issues with 8, but I still enjoyed 8 because I like the series and I like spending time with these characters. That's it. You know, so yeah. Yeah. and I like the Isai Modales. I'm tired of people coming for Issa. Oh, I love that guy.

Yeah, great. I think he got kind of screwed around with the second film a little bit. I think they kind of changed what his villain was. Yes. But I think that was, you know, having to split the film and redo a little bit. So I think he kind of got the short end of it with that. You're so right, dude. I agree with you 100%.

KJ7457 says, can you name the last piece of physical media that you purchased? You guys are great. Yeah. Um, shit. I just bought something. What I just bought? Uh, oh, um, long kiss good night on 4K. Ooh.

They did like a re, re, redirector's edition, new commentaries. Yeah. Long kiss good night 4K. Yeah. So I will tell you because it was Black Friday. I always buy stuff on Black Friday. Uh, and so what do I have here? I, I bought, oh, sorry, hold on.

Let me. I just bought. four things on physical media because I'm a physical media guy. I got Cinderella Man in 4K, sinners in 4K, F1 and 4K, and Superman in 4K. They were all $13 on Grove.

And so that should be coming sometime soon. So that's last thing I bought a physical media. I love Cinderella, man. One of my favorites. Thank you, Derek, for more support. Let's see, G. Go pal. Says, I loved Blue Beetle.

It made me cry like a damn baby, but it turns out I can't, look at Susan Sarandon anymore. What? Okay. Do you want Blue Beetle back, man? Do you think it'll come back? Do you think you want Solo? Do you want to start all over? I think, well, I think

they had a problem. You got to do Ted Cork first. And I know they hinted at him in this movie, and that was really good that they did that. Yeah. That's like, hey, he's there. Not going to do it, but. And I think they talk with guns, like the guy, Sholo, Sholo's name. He's going to be in D.C.

So they liked him. So I think we do Ted Cord first and then we'll bring him in. Yeah, I agree. He'll be slightly modified and slightly different and the suit might look different. But I think, yeah, I think given some time, he'll be there. You got to bring Ted Cord in. You got to bring. You do.

And you got to do his story. You got to do his story. That's such a great character. Thank you, Derek. Thank you, Derek. Always love your support, brother. Haskell. What's up, Askell?

He says, hey, guys, go Gators. Oh, God. When Boston Market was by us, we also had a Kenny Rogers Roaster. Kenny Rogers Roasters. Dude, I was talking to my girlfriend. She was just like, what are you talking about? There was a place called Kenny Rogers Roasters. And they had the best chicken pop pie ever.

And they got rid of them. The gambler gambled and lost. He did not know when to hold him. Yeah, that was the whole of the Seinfeld episode. Ken Rogers Roosters, over Kramer's house with the red lights. Yep, yep. Kenny Rogers. Oh, that was good stuff. You're so right. He's so right.

You kids that weren't around in the 90s, you missed out. Kenny Rogers Roasters, chicken pop pies. Man. There was a world where there was a Roy Rogers restaurant and a Kenny Rogers restaurant. And that's the world. Roy Rogers is what Hardee's became. Yep. And so Roy Rogers is back on the East Coast, for those you remember that.

But yeah, Kenny Rogers. He says, Boston Market was better chicken, but Rogers' his appetizers were incredible. Yeah, I was a Roger Roasters guy. Totally. Tim L. Sim says also, FY with the 10th anniversary of the sequel trilogy films coming up, I hope everyone, whether you enjoyed them or not, let's let those who were introduced to Star Wars buy the sequels or love those films. Let them be and not shame them.

There's no world where that's true, Tim, ever, because we're in a world of fandom now where people attack each other, although the sentiment is sweet. I don't think it's possible because people really hate Rise of Skywalker. They're like there's a loathing of that film. That there is. Yeah. KJ 745 says, the women in my office are asking me,

why do men love big TVs and big speakers? What do you think? Why do we? Yeah. I just think we're more, we're just more technologically, we're just more attracted to technology. I just think as dudes,

we just have a thing about being attracted to technology. And plus a lot of us are sports watchers and movie watchers. And the best of watch that shit is on a big side. Yeah. You know? It is. It's just it's the better way you could look at it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Because most, we're not going to stereotype here, but some women, most women are into a certain thing that guys aren't into. Right. And they, like, this has to be perfect.

It has to look a certain way. Yeah. Where guys are into other things. It's just the way it works, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Derek.

Joey Pedres says, we're about a little over two weeks out from Fallout season two. Is there any hype on your part, or are you more a wait and see person? I didn't see the first season. So, yeah. I love the first season. Yeah, there's hype in my mind. But again, there's so much happening right now.

It's tough to get super hyped about anything. Even stranger things for me, like kind of game. And then I'm like, okay. So we're doing so much happening right now. Yeah. Daniel Lopez, 3606 says, Have you seen rental family? Great movie.

Brandon killed it. movie may win some trophies if you have thoughts i heard great things about it i've not seen it though yeah brenden is amazing in the film it's a touching film uh people i can't wait to people see it i could have a dark horse best picture candidacy i don't know because a lot of the big films are already being trumped up to be best pictures but rental family could slide in there right at the end as a kind of darling and also breeder's performance is really good i'm i couldn't be happier for a guy making a comeback. Yeah.

Yeah. That's a good guy. And he deserves it. 100%. Yeah. He didn't really do anything or have a fall from grace that was a Kevin Spacey thing or anything. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. He was ironically the victim of a sexualist. True. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. Let's see.

28 Vasco says, Roka, thoughts on Survivor Series in your town. Hi, Mike. Hello. Survivor series was like a six out of ten. It wasn't that strong. It's why I didn't do a live watch along. I didn't anticipate it was going to be that great of a show.

The male Survivor match was amazing. The female one, less so. And all the other matches around it were not that exciting. And people are complaining about the way the stadium laid out was laid out for the event. People paid $900 for a ticket and had to watch it on the Jumbotron because they couldn't see it. Now, that is what happens with PECO. So I'm just, I'm surprised that WW did it that way. but I mean, Triple H has been messing up so many things lately.

So not surprised. Jared 86 says, do you think there's a director out there who can bring Dante's Inferno to the big screen or maybe a limited series? I don't know. That's a tough work to adapt. Yeah. Yeah.

And I can't, I mean, yeah. Plus, I mean, I think there's an interesting approach to it because nowadays people are like clamoring for more faith-based films. Right.

Right, right, right. Yeah. You know, into the devil and the seven circles. of hell and all of that. I think there's a way to explore it. But you'd have to have to have a visual filmmaker like Villeneuve or Nolan.

I was going to say both those guys. I don't want to be like that, but that's who you do. Yeah, yeah. Which means it'll probably end up being Coppola. Hank Pimpsis, why do you think Harlov's obsessed with reactions? I think because they make good numbers

and his numbers have increased in terms of his subscribers to over 200,000. He's real, real good on just what he's and what works and what doesn't for his numbers. And he's got, he knows all that shit. There's a law more going to be going. You're sorry about that. All right.

Last question for now. Hank Pim says, I saw Rent a Family Best movie of the year for me. There you go. Absolutely. All right. That's a good sign. All right. So that's 110 question, 109 questions.

Jesus, Roca. I think we're good. I think we're good. I think I want to say it's because it's you and I. Of course. Those are some massive numbers. Those are some great numbers. Fuck yeah.

I know Christian wouldn't want to. to end the show early, but it's a holiday weekend, man. We had 105 chats, and I think we should wrap it up. Do you have any plans for anything else you got going on that you want to promote, Mike? Anything going on for you? It's going on. It's slower time. What happens?

Sorry. There you go. Go, go. Nah, man, nothing just worked, working to the end of the year. Hope everyone has a good holiday, but we'll be here all month. Definitely. Chimbing in with people. So, yeah, man.

Are you at Universal now less? Yeah. About the same. Like right now, the period between Thanksgiving and like December 20th, the last two weeks of December, it gets a little slow. Yeah. So, yeah, this is the time where I do all my shopping and all that stuff. So before, then the last two weeks of the month when most people are on vacation, that's when I'm working the most. Yeah, yeah.

Have you gone to see the new lands yet down in Florida or are you kind of waiting? No, McClung and I. Yeah. We're taking a trip out there within the new year. We wanted to wait until it gets its feet and gets all the crap worked out. It seems like they got people dying on rides and stuff now. So let's slow the roll here. Maybe we'll go down a little wait a little bit.

There's a new documentary out on those lands. I did see that. One of the places I work at Universal, they got a big rotating NBC TV billboards with all the new show, whatever it is, it's got there. But they just put up that something of that. It's called Epic something. Yeah.

It's the journey of all the parks. It's not just epic universe. So I'll definitely check that out. I want to see it. I want to see if someone I know is in it as well. Yeah, there's got to be a lot of people we know on that thing. You know to George, 94, 54. This not long happened, but James Gunn is debunked on social media about Supergirl having a $200 million dollar budget.

Listen, no offense, but James can say whatever. I don't believe a fucking word James. I know Mike is in a different camp. I don't believe a word James says about any of the budgets or anything like that. We will see what I'll say about Gunn. He does, you know, a lot of. of people for a long time who wanted transparency and he was providing it and almost became too transparent. I'm excited to see or I would like to see what DC is going to be when other

filmmakers films are at the helm because right now it's his world. Even though he's the head of the studio, it's Superman. It's peacemakers. It's Superman too. So it's all his thing. So I want to see when Clayface starts coming out when Batman gets announced like let these other filmmakers take the rain and I think he might step back a little bit for the social media because right now I think he's the chef he's got all the pots going yeah yeah let some other chefs come in there and show their dishes and and you know let him step back at the back of the restaurant and just manage everything i think you're 100% right you know that's what people want right now is like step back a little bit even over the weekend he came out like let me tell you about my day and all the things I do

like nobody nobody will gives a shit like you don't talk about that so we all know you're busy it's fine like i don't know why he needs to do that but i i i think he's just happy doing what he loves. He wants to talk about it. I get it. Not everything needs to be addressed. Sometimes you just let it go. But hey,

I'm not willing to talk about shutting up on social media. I'm not the fucking guy to sit there and go, you know what? People should not say their opinions on social media. Michael's right. Mike's right. I'm in the same camp. You and me both.

Out of all of Harlop's people in this circle, I think you and I are the two that he'd go, shut the fuck up and taking her twitters away. 100%. He's such a dickhead because he's like, oh, man, sometimes, though, you'll go at someone and I just love it. I love him when I do that. But like when I go political, you're like, no, no, no. But when I call some asshole out about like Batman or something, you're like, oh, I loved it.

Yeah, that's Christian. I take the good with the bad Harlov. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And we do with him too. Tim L. Of course. Well, that's a dang shame, especially with the OG toxicity, laced in Star Wars fandom. All I have left to say is hope for the best and hope everyone has a great December ahead.

Well, look, Tim, I know you want that to happen. And I think it's a great thought to happen. But the reality is people, people are angry out there all over the world and they want to bang around about it and bang on about it. And unfortunately, no one's allowed to enjoy anything and no one's allowed to hate anything or not like anything. It's always a pushback. I think we've reached a point of fandoms where they're never going to be happy. Like I propose this question to a couple of the people that are in the heavy Snyder camp will say to be kind. I said, let's say for some reason, James Gunn says, you know what?

we're going to bring in Zach back he's going to do two and three and that's it will you guys be happy and they won't no because then anything that comes after that's like oh see not as good as that yeah bring them back for it's like

you're never going to appease anyone with all these fandom so you just got a yeah it sucks but that's where it is we're never gonna there's never no no fandom's gonna be unified and like wow we're all together loving what's going on with it just won't

you can't please people who are deeply unhappy. It just, you can't. And there's a lot of, sadly, there's a lot of unhappy people in fandoms. And remember, fan is short for fanatic. And most fanatics are not, 99% fanatics are not happy people. And so what you see sometimes is there's, that, that's what invades the fandom is that toxicity from unhappy people. So catering to them is never going to be, as Michael said, as Mike said, it's, you can cater to them and then they'll go, well, but what about this? why don't you do this now? And it's like, it's never going to be enough.

It's never going to be enough. And so trying to please them, I think, is a fool's errand. Yeah. One last one era. How would you feel about Bob Odenkirk as a cobra commander? I don't see it. Yeah, I don't see it either. But I do like Bob Oenekirk as an action guy.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I do love, I love his nobody. And then there was another one. I don't know if it's, that was it out. Yeah, it came out. It was like he was a sheriff and a town. Yes.

Yeah. I like that this Odden Kirk era. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Thank you, Derek, for more support. And I think we should wrap it up there, brother, man. Thank you. Mike. Please let people know where they can find you. Anything you at going at? Mike Kellanowski, guys. That's where it's at. All right. There you go. Thanks, Mike. I'll see you next time, brother, man. Great to do show. Yeah, buddy. Take care.

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