The Last American Vagabond - 7SEES Interview - The Alarming Reality Of Your 6G Future & The Reimagining Of Society

Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Last American Vagabond. I have seven Cs, joining me again today to discuss some of his interesting research. into some very interesting and abstract in the way that I like kind of information out there that so few are touching on discussing and really just some other things that I've been really highlighting, such as the network state conversation and a lot of other points that are just in my face every day that seems so few want to discuss. So thank you, Seven Seas for joining. How are you today, brother? I am excellent, man. How about yourself? Not bad, you know, as always things considered, you know, the craziness of the world. It's hard, you know, but definitely, as I always point out, I think why this is so crazy is,

Starting point is 00:01:00 because I really do see positive change in the sense of awareness of, you know, like a consciousness shift happening that every day I see it more clearly, you know, and I've said that before, but I really do think that it's worth noting as crazy as it feels that I think it's because people are starting to see it all, you know? And that's kind of what we're going to get into a little bit today, you know? Absolutely. Let's start off. Well, just if there's anything you want to start with, because it's been a minute since we touched base with, you know, anything you want to shout out for people, let them know who you are. And then we can jump into one point that I want to start with. Yeah, for sure.

Starting point is 00:01:30 But to kind of back up your point, like, I think like in this post-COVID realm, especially since the Trump administration has kind of taken office this year and seeing like the, the blatant cover up of like the Epstein stuff and the drastic pushing of like this technological, you know, fascistic almost state that seems to be sort of lining itself up, I think people are more prone to like step outside of their like, you know, willing to suspend their disbelief. And I realize that, you know, if they're lying about this, then what else could they be lying about? And they seem to be more apt to look at the information and stuff that what, you know, even a couple of years ago was like way too wild and outside of the fray to be considered. Yeah, you know, it's, you can't, this conversation, you have to include anybody having it, what Israel did, whatever your thoughts are on what they did or how they did it or whatever is justified, which obviously, you know, my opinion on it, that action. tore apart the over the window.

Starting point is 00:02:32 It's not just that, as my point. There's so many other these kind of moments that we've had. But really, I think that that was sort of the last straw. Like that blew open that conversation that then opened all these other doors. And we were already kind of going through that with COVID-19, right? Where wasn't a partisan thing as much as there were clearly slants. You can look back and see that, you know, people were grappling with something that really had nothing to do with politics that was being used to force us into these boxes.

Starting point is 00:02:53 And it just didn't get put away. People are like, well, you know, that's a big deal. And what else should be questioned? you know so it is it's fantastic to see and so this point in in regard to uh massy and the current administration it's an interesting development you touched on the epstein files and and how i mean it's it's quite obvious to i think people from a nonpartisan perspective that and especially longer than just this administration that this is a bipartisan issue and clearly the actions they've taken is it's embarrassing like that's why i'm of the mind one of the many points that most conservatives are

Starting point is 00:03:26 quite vocally at this point not teams for republicans they'll always be on the team side but the conservatives are going there's something wrong right now you know and and maybe still have hope for the team or trump even but still recognize the problem but that that they've absolutely made it clear that they're trying to cover this up you can't go hoax it's real there's no more here's some more it's not you know it's a democrat lie now it's a hoax again like without just making a fool out of yourself you know and so this isn't really about the epstein files i mean it might be you can decide you might have seen this clip going around vassie's in a podcast and interview and he lets the cat out of the bag and it seems like he thought about it for a second

Starting point is 00:03:58 because they're going to be repercussions and made it clear that cash patel's office reached out to him and basically threatened strong armed him said if you want to play hardball then we're going to start investigating you for fraud like just out of the gate so let's watch the clip and then we can discuss the many implications for a statement like that and i just think it's interesting to set this table with the kind of just i mean this is what i think the government and our got the left or right has always been but there's something uniquely blatant and clumsy about the Trump administration. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:25 Also, I'm going to say this here on camera because it's important. One of Cash Patel's staff threatened my staff with a criminal investigation if we didn't straighten up and play ball. I was going to ask you about that, but since you brought it up and I didn't bring it up. Okay, you brought it up. And so, like a criminal investigation having nothing to do, he said it was going to be a fraud. We're going to investigate one of your staff for fraud. And he told another one of my staff this, if you guys don't straighten up, you know,

Starting point is 00:05:08 if you want to play hardball, if this is how you want to play it or something like that, this member of your staff is going to get criminally investigated for fraud, a very specific threat. Very interesting. yeah what are your thoughts on that um so you know anybody that's kind of followed me and knows that i also have a little bit of contention for massey um you know first and foremost just because his willingness to participate within you know a system that i think is wholly broken and you know not able to be fixed and and it you know it seems like um when it when it comes to the epstein uh release like figures like him and marjorie taylorie taylor green

Starting point is 00:05:51 seem to have become like the the leading controlled disclosures because as far as I know everything that they've released like independent investigators they were on top of that and had that info years ago right and so it's it's kind of difficult to I guess take him completely at face value but it's also not outside of like the realm of possibility to see Cash Patel do something like that

Starting point is 00:06:20 I was just to say, which we never should, which we both, we should never blindly take any, it should be questioned. We should be investigated, you know, keep going out. Absolutely. You know, just seeing how, how sort of thin-skinned both him and Dan Bongino are, it almost seems like they're, they're like an emotional reactionary, just kind of sort of caring for the things that made them successful in podcasting, tugging on people's heartstrings and things like that. And, you know, just the fact that Cash Patel is also, you know, he's in bed with that girl from Prager You and, you know, the, obviously, like, Israeli involvement there. And the fact that Cash Patel has completely one-80ed from what he was saying before he got in office to now. And it kind of just seems like this mask off moment where now we're just allowed to celebrate how corrupt our government is. is as long as they're going after the ones that, you know, we don't like.

Starting point is 00:07:21 Yeah, well, and it's fair, fair point, you know, and it's, I mean, as always, we should question all of them. And I'm the same point I'm going to make about Massey. And I want to ask you a question about that, like, hypothetically in the future. But first, you know, it's clear that this could just be like exactly what you said could be the reality. And then yet this could still be happening because they're at odds with each other for different political reasons and, you know, but are neither, none of them are on our side. Like, that's one way to look at it. Like, that's why that's interesting. So the disclosure, that what happens today with a lot of the partisan kind of conversation and even people outside of it

Starting point is 00:07:49 is that it can be like you're saying well massie is compromised so therefore this whole thing should be disregarded and that's just willful ignorance to me even if we agree with what you're saying right and so it should be engaged with and considered that even if he's trying to trap you for some reason like what's the outcome what are they trying to accomplish so first as you said maybe it could just be that this is setting us up like it's the the hero anti-hero kind of like you know false binary you know but so what i thought was interesting like you said it's pretty clear that this is cash patel this lines up with what I expect from what he's been doing. You know, childish, emotional kind of, you know,

Starting point is 00:08:20 larping as what he thinks people should be doing and doing a bad job at it. You know, same with a lot of these people, even Hankseth, bonding and the rest. And so it says something to me, but that's a different conversation. And so this point to me stands out as interesting because, is it about the Epstein files? Is there some interest in Massey to do this? Now, the other part, the other possibility is that he is doing the right thing.

Starting point is 00:08:40 Now, and I've considered this pretty extensively about whether, you know, to the end of the day, people pointed out for example funding that does come from you know zionist overlap or different things that are behind it but it's minimal compared to you know the the obvious massive thing out there but to your point like he's had information like this for a long time he could have but you know there's there's why hasn't things happen before this now you know so we don't the answer is we don't know so there could be something we don't know about right so it's about just being a question everything right and so i get the sense though that this is something about like infighting or possibly that

Starting point is 00:09:12 Thomas Massey for whatever reason is trying to make this come out. That doesn't have to mean good guy. So my hypothetical for you would be if, let's say, Thomas Massey, because this is where I'm at, where I keep saying on the show, it's like, I don't support any politician. I'm likely never going to vote for the rest of my life. I don't think this is broken and I don't even want government in my life. I don't think this should exist, right?

Starting point is 00:09:29 But since we're here, you know, engaging with this system and blah, blah, the whole kind of rigum roll we go through. It's if Thomas Massey consistently does what I think to be is the right thing and consistently follows through what he promises and consistently shows these principle in his stances even if we disagree with them like for the next 20 year straight and even then you could prove let's say way more than you have right now that we were straight up working for someone you don't that you think is a bad guy what would that what would you take you know would you then still go well he's doing you know what's the difference if you know i'm

Starting point is 00:09:59 trying to get to the point of would we then support him i don't know my answer because i'm so jaded about government but if he does what you seven sees think is the right thing and follow through in principle ways what is the rest of it ultimately mean you know what i think My point I'm making, and I want you to answer, sorry, is that it's, we should be questioning these people, regardless. Now, the background is important, but it's about the outcome. It's about the action. You know, so what do you think about that? Where would you stand at that, 20 years of the consistency, if it happened? So it kind of reminds me a lot of Ron Paul in the sense that, you know, I think that Ron Paul, you know, was involved in efforts that I think had like a genuine sentiment behind them.

Starting point is 00:10:36 you know i think that the the end of the the fed movement is fantastic on its own merit uh the the ideas behind it and you know the the overall goal is to abolish the federal reserve um the the issue that i have is that it seems like a lot of uh i i guess longstanding progress wasn't really achieved through ron paul um it and it seems like especially now more than ever that his in the fed movement the thing that he's kind of been like most famous for in his career uh has been co-opted by like crypto bros and they're essentially saying hey we will in the fed uh but then using this like hegelian dialectic to say but we'll replace it with with crypto and and cbDCs and and i it just

Starting point is 00:11:25 kind of feels like that's sort of what massy is is sort of set up for is hey you'll be he'll be a lightning rod for all of the dissent but to make sure that it operates within the overton window that they want yeah that's interesting and so in that and now that that that framing you just laid out in that post is it possible in that framing that maran paul or massey are not actually the bad guy don't know that they're being used i'm i you know i'm i'm undecided the reason i say that is because ron paul's a good example and i would argue that he has continued to demonstrate principled stances his entire life you know what i mean so i i think he definitely tried to do what he was trying to do that's my opinion and there's plenty

Starting point is 00:12:03 things people could probably throw out that would make you go, hmm, you know, but if you look at the consistency of his action, his, you know, Ron Paul Institute, Daniel, Daniel McAdams, and their continued effort to do what I think is the same thing he's always been trying to do. That shows me that he was doing that, but it was co-opted. The system's broken, but he was real. If, you know, based on what we can look at, who knows for sure. And so at the same point with Massey, is like, that's kind of what I'm trying to get at is that the system we know is broken. And that's what everyone's grappling with. But if Massey's out there doing what he's trying to do and we think it's actually having positive effect is something we should be discussing you know and whether or not it's kind of mixed in with all this

Starting point is 00:12:38 and like i said i don't trust any of them i don't think i ever will but i do think it's interesting that we're seeing this happen and my take again or i didn't really get into it is i i do think there's something there i think that what's happening right now is that massey and the question is for what reason i i don't think it's i think it's opportunism i sense that from the very beginning but i still go good i'm look at you saying the right thing right let's incentivize them to do the right thing even if it's for the wrong reasons you know And so I think that's kind of what I'm getting from this, is whatever the intention is, Massey is really pushing their buttons. And I just don't see how that would play into what would benefit the system.

Starting point is 00:13:12 And so Cash Patel seems to be threatening him. I just think it's an interesting window into what's happening, you know. And so all that, and give me your final thoughts if you have any. And then let's get into some of the bigger overlaps. Yeah, I think that some of my main concerns, especially with Massey, like just outside of, you know, being essentially a part of the same government, you know, is that, you know, he comes from MIT. He had a company that was basically, you know, a tool that could be used in the biodigital convergence like Metaverse, where, you know, it was essentially a way to provide haptic feedback to interact with objects in a digital space to make them feel real for people in VR. It was funded by the same MIT media labs that Joyshu Ito and Jeffrey Epstein were, you know, collaborating. together with to fund the fact that he gets money from Jeff Yoss, who is a raging Zionist,

Starting point is 00:14:11 who has contributed directly to like the Coelot Policy Forum, which is basically like Israel's A-PAC on behalf of Lekud. And they they work directly with like the Knesset and are involved with people that are directly related to like Netanyahu. You know, Jeff Yoss is like his biggest individual contributor and has been for the last three election cycles, you have his, his freemasonry ties and his ties to like the rotary clubs. So there's just a few like other things on top of that that just makes me kind of see him as somebody that I wouldn't trust. But again, to the point though, we wouldn't trust any of

Starting point is 00:14:50 them, right? Like that's what we are agreed. We should question and trust. So my mind, you know, it seems clear that we should be going, let's look at see how it plays out, you know, because if like I guess the baby with the bathwater kind of a thing, you know, because there's a lot of effort out there to go, I agree with everything you just said. Those are concerning. We should be keeping on that. But let's watch the actions point to something we agree with, whether or not, you know, it wrapped up in this is the idea that if we were to go, Thomas Massey made a good point or he may be doing the right thing, that therefore, then we're somehow supporting the wrong side. I just don't think that's accurate. You know what I mean? This is why I appreciate your

Starting point is 00:15:21 research because it's, you know, there's so much important information out there about these connections. And people often, you know, will do something similar to you in the reverse while claiming that you're making all these grandiose claims that you're not simply by just pointing out that there are connections there you know yeah i think it's important you know that there's this is taken as as value but not an absolute because very few things are you know what i mean absolutely yeah i think it's important um you know obviously it's it's kind of easy to like speculate um based on different facts on you know who somebody is where something's going um i think the most important part is you know just state the facts as they are i'll kind of give my opinion and the in the in the

Starting point is 00:15:59 sense that like you know i wouldn't trust any of them which i i think is you know a pretty good general advice um but but allow people to yeah yeah but allow people to like infer their own conclusions from that you know i'm not saying like he's he's inherently like an evil person or anything like that it's just you know facts of the matter he's connected to this there's financial records here so like do with that information what you will exactly exactly and that's all i can hope for. And if he, like, so let's say he does everything right for the next two years and then, as you said, steps in as like the leader of the diode digital conversions, then we should immediately go, okay, you know, and so what I would argue is that the highlighting what he's been saying,

Starting point is 00:16:40 that's correct, would it no way mean that you supported that effort? You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's about trying to just highlight what is right in the conversation or what people that are, like, I think right now there's so many politicians that are grappling with like beginning to say what we know is going on because they know it will be a waterfall of support. but they go but if i do those things trump will attack me net and yah who will try to kill me you know it's like there's a lot of things they're grappling with and so it's a line but i think some of these younger politicians are stepping out there and going i'm going to try to take the back and i don't think they have good intentions i think it's more politicians trying to use what they

Starting point is 00:17:11 but i will still go that's the right thing you know correct i believe that you know it's fascinating so the overlap point with mity is interesting right because this is something not necessarily rid of the massey but just an interesting overlap to this and one of the things you wanted to discuss today was like this larger kind of, you know, societal change, technological change, but just everything seems to be rapidly driving us into this control grid structure. You know, there's a lot of different moving parts to it, but this one is a specific aspect that you touched on. Go and explain what this is for us. And then we'll get in. I have the study we can pull up too. Yeah, absolutely. I think the last time we did a stream together, we had kind

Starting point is 00:17:46 of touched on like the smart dust. Right, right. From like MIT DARPA. So this is, I think, incredibly important because, you know, some of the things that people have framed as like crazy conspiracy theories and things like that when it comes to the biodigital convergence, they're openly admitting to. So they have released white papers that say that they have a new therapeutic brain implants that could defy the need for surgery. So this is non-surgical. They can do it via injection. It is something they call circular tronics. So it is is something that can, essentially, it's a nanoscale device that can attach itself to the T cells in your blood. And that way it is able to disguise itself within your immune system to keep it from getting attacked.

Starting point is 00:18:36 And use the, yeah, and it uses the blood vessels because it is small enough to bypass the blood brain barrier. And then those devices are then able to be manipulated via wireless signals. and they can essentially neuromodulate people. And, you know, they're claiming it's going to be used to fight things like Alzheimer's disease. When, you know, in actuality, everything that we've ever seen that has been a source of like innovation or a humanitarian effort by the medical industry always ends up weaponized by the military industrial complex. Right. Right. Like without fail, it seems. And usually you find out that it's been, they've been working and studying it for 20 years before they've been presented to. to you as this new thing they were touching on you know it's it's just so consistent when you look back exactly yeah it's uh it seems to be a trend that you know that i've always heard

Starting point is 00:19:27 it as a rule of thumb that anything that they any technology they tell us about the military's had for 30 years yeah so so pretty good rule of thumb i mean it's i i would argue there are a few deviations but it is wildly consistent if people want to look into that absolutely like i you know i look at things like arpanet in relation to like the public internet um and you know the fact that they're willing to like openly admit that they now have this technology, I automatically assume that that sort of lines up with the timeline of like the Bill Clinton's national nanotech initiative. And when they started to dump all sorts of like DARPA funding and CIA and like Department

Starting point is 00:20:05 of Homeland Security funding all into these different institutions to basically push, you know, the nanotech initiative, you have like companies like Lockheed Martin has their own nanotech division, Boeing, and things like that. And they're all working together. It's like this vested interest in getting the technology to where it needs to be. So they'll borrow each other's research or send each other grant money. It's a lot like what we're seeing with Operation Stargate, where they're all just like passing the money back and forth and pretending like they're making it.

Starting point is 00:20:38 Yes. It's such a grift going on. I mean, that's an entire show we could do just about the, like, you know, Catherine Austin Fitz argues that Trump is the most. anti-capitalist president in history which you know people disagree with that but it's there's a fair argument to make about many of the different financial moves he's making that's just blatantly socialist communist even fascistic when you look at the overlap of you know the public private partnership it's weird man it's like i always want to get pulled into that conversation because it's so

Starting point is 00:21:03 interesting to see what a bait and switch like almost literally everything they're doing is you know yeah well this this topic is so important to cover but yeah this is something we've touched on I think more than once, actually. And it really is something that has been going on that for a long, like I referenced that I can even bring it up. I mean, it's called Dust Networks. It's from like 20. Let me just grab it real quick.

Starting point is 00:21:23 I can find out what the date is. It's a YouTube channel that they still, weirdly enough, have a few of the videos up. But so this one's 14 years old. And you can even look, if I hover over this, it shows him spreading things in the air. You see that? It's him demonstrating smart dust all the way back then.

Starting point is 00:21:39 They're only talking about, look, help build smart cities for the future. Dust Network. I mean, it's crazy. I'll far back this goes. And in this, I did a whole segment on. They were literally talking about how they used it in that time frame to track shipping lanes in the middle of the ocean. So then that literally means, as I'll just jump to point out, I included,

Starting point is 00:21:59 I always, I always do, this conversation I had about making this question, is smart dust already in use of the population and was COVID-19 an experiment, attempted experimental next step? I mean, this is where I think this is going. So bringing this back to your point. This is what I saw and this really stood out to me. as the weaponized side of this, to overlapping with the COVID potentially point, you know, MIT researchers created microscopic wireless electronic devices that travel through blood

Starting point is 00:22:22 and implant and target brain regions where they provide electrical stimulation. In a study on mice, the researchers show that after injection, these minuscule implants can identify and travel to a specific brain region without the need for human guidance. Once there, they can be wirelessly powered to provide electrical stimulation to the precise area. Guy, that could mean anything that could kill you, that could cause you to get hungry, It could drop your glucose, you know, your insulin levels. Like we taught, there's all, what I'm referencing is a, is a Rockefeller study. It's a such stimulation known as a way to treat brain tumors and diseases like Alzheimer's,

Starting point is 00:22:57 like you were saying. This is dual use kind of stuff, right? Any thoughts on that before I go to the overlap to that? I'm sure you've seen it before. We've touched on it. The ferretin kind of nanoparticle discussion. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, in my opinion, this should be like the, the,

Starting point is 00:23:13 the smoking gun that, you know, the people that have been talking about like the, the neuromodulation and like the wireless agenda. Yeah. And, you know, the fact that this, this biodigital convergence is kind of operating under the, the bigger conversation of like technocracy where people like Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt are kind of serving as like lightning rods for the conversation. Right. You know, then you have DARPA and MIT underneath that sort of operating and building these networks out and, you know, testing this technology and distributing it like in the dark while everybody is, you know,

Starting point is 00:23:48 focused on this upper layer. And it, it's, it's concerning because, you know, you talk about it. And it seems so fantastical that people start to seem that, like,

Starting point is 00:24:00 think that I'm crazy. Right. You know, I make this joke all the time. Like I, you remember, you remember when I was a kid and looking in the back, you know,

Starting point is 00:24:07 all the little catalog things. Yeah. And go like a flying car. all this, you know, the random stuff, it was, it was kind of a gimmicky thing you could get. And it was like, you know, it wasn't real. But the point was like this, you know, in the future or kind of a thing like it would talk about, like, you know, you go, oh, it's like 50 years. It's like this idea of like what's coming way down the future.

Starting point is 00:24:23 People project this like it's something they're theorizing about this is now. This is 20 years ago, right? That's what's so frustrating is, but you're right, though. They don't even really state that, but people just, they let them assume that this is like the distant future as they literally build this around us, you know? And I want to reiterate that there's provable. evidence unless it's possible, I guess, that in any case, that literally every data point we have is somehow manufactured to trick us. That's always possible. But all the evidence, I say that

Starting point is 00:24:50 because other experts I know that I highly respect argue that maybe nano smart dust in particular is sort of like a feigned thing that they're trying to do, but haven't. Fair point. But I think the evidence is clearly shown that they've been using this for quite a long time. So the overlap that I'm getting at is interesting. And I'll play this clip again, or this one here that I find interesting about this 20-year-old symposium, but the overlap to COVID-19 is very hard to miss. You know, the overlap of Bob Langer, Charles Lieber, we've talked about the, where was it again, this one here, Charles Lieber, 2011, virus-sized transistors, and this is what I find really weird.

Starting point is 00:25:24 This overlapped exactly what that study's talking about. It says, but when his team coded the hairpin nano wire with a fatty lipid layer, you know, like lipid nanoparticles in the COVID shot, that's literally what we're talking about here. It says the device was easily pulled into the cell via membrane fusion, a process related to one of the cells used to engulf viruses in bacteria. It says this innovation is important, Lieber explains because it indicates that when a manmade structure is a small as a virus or bacteria, it can behave the way biological structures do. I often point out that this very well could be something that kind of got out of control and ended up being something that they just

Starting point is 00:25:52 called something else. But either way, it shows you that they had this nanotech stuff they're working on that is exactly what we're discussing here. You know, and that this was kind of the precursor to the COVID-19 technology along with Charles Lieber, who was the scientific co-founder of Moderna. And they were working on the optogenetics, magnogenetics, and all the kind of overlapping science around all this. So it brings me to the point about this, which we and I've discussed, genetically engineered magneto-magnetoprotein remotely controls brain and behavior. Now, that's what I take from this. You know, the idea that you're talking about something that, from, as you say, from like two-way information, which he talks about in this as well, discussing, you know, being able to

Starting point is 00:26:28 exchange information between different devices and different people. And this is the Rockefeller study, flipping a switch on the head. and it talks about literally being able to wirelessly control a brain. Yeah. You know, and so it's like, this is so insane. And now, okay, two more things to make this incredible where we're going. This just came out from the Guardian, mind-altering brain weapons, no longer only is night in fiction. You and I are like, no, duh.

Starting point is 00:26:52 We would talk about years, but it's like, it's coming out right in front of you. And then here's British government plans to introduce cameras that can detect emotions. Like, it's just flowing out. And I'm at the point where I think people are sort of like, like you said, just going, God, this seems like conspiracy theory. It's probably not even real when they're literally being told that it's happening. You know, all this comes together at the great reset overlap, you know. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:13 And that's why I always make it a point to, you know, link back to these white papers and like these official sources where it is them admitting that and, and, you know, to your point where it's like, you know, we do kind of have to take them at face value on the sciences because I don't have the means or the funding or the technology to, you know, investigate whether their scientific findings are proven or not, but these are the same exact things that they're pitching to investors when they, you know, when they take these technologies public. And this is what they're, you know, using to like secure funding. So I have to at least take them at face value. And if they're, they're all saying it and openly admitting it, I mean,

Starting point is 00:27:52 these are the things that, you know, back in the 60s, they were trying to hide in classified documents like MK Ultra, for example. Right. And, and now it's, it's worldwide and it's wireless and everyone just seems to be like too afraid to talk about it because they're they're afraid of like bumming people out yeah right remember twitter did that weird thing where it's like stop being negative yeah the only positive that that was a very clumsy effort to try to just be like don't talk about the bad things but you know katherine austin fits again is reference neuro weapons neuroscience we've talked about that before too you know it just becomes this really like how do you even combat something like that like that's the impossible thing is like cover ourselves

Starting point is 00:28:27 in tinfoil and now we're back to square one you know it is but it's a very real conversation, you know, and the idea, James Giordano from, I think, the State Department, the U.S. government, you know, talking about how these kind of weapons were used during COVID-19. Now, why he would say that, and he would still have his job. I don't know. But, you know, like you're saying, like, the same kind of point. Is he doing that to trick, like,

Starting point is 00:28:46 a massy kind of thing to get us into that position? It's still interesting he said it, you know, and it's like, and yet people are pretending like it's not even real. It's, it's, did you see the , uh, uh, haggseth thing about the, uh, mill dot, or was it, gen.com, yeah, you see that? So this is why I find it.

Starting point is 00:29:02 connecting to this point because it came to my mind is that what they're doing and what they're talking about with like the universal AI soldier overlap as well that was the a bot why i'm referencing but they're also doing like the universal soldier that is DARPA right DARPA is a central lit part of the COVID-19 agenda and you've got conservatives literally cheering on exactly what they were fighting you know and this is Whitney's article for TLAB coronavirus gives a dangerous boost to DARPA's darkest agendas and then I'll overlap that with the fact that DARPA started X-A-I that Elon took over and turned into Twitter, which turned back into X-A-I. And so now you've got both, like, literally all the aspects in place of this one part of having

Starting point is 00:29:39 like the AI-powered kind of, you know, network platform that people can be manipulated by. You've got the, you know, the bot and aspect of it. I mean, all the different parts are falling into place. And just like, to your point, I just don't know how people can ignore this anymore, you know? Absolutely. Yeah. And, you know, when I believe it was yesterday. maybe that Trump had actually admitted that they were launching 6G and that it's able to like

Starting point is 00:30:06 operate under the skin. I think I actually have a clip for that that I can send you where he's like. Yeah, I might already have it pulled up actually. I think I have, yeah, I got it right here from from your post. Yeah, yeah. You want to play the clip? I can grab it real quick. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

Starting point is 00:30:20 Go ahead. Go ahead and explain this while I grab it. So, you know, I think that it's interesting when you look back at like Donald Trump's uncle and the fact that he was involved with like the the very first venture capital firm in existence and they funded his company the high believe it's high voltage engineering company and that company was responsible for releasing the very first wireless signals that the military used for radar communications interesting and then now to come full circle to Donald Trump having been a huge pioneer of 5G is now bragging about bringing in 6G

Starting point is 00:30:57 And all the white papers and everything that I've looked at for 6G, you know, talks about how we're going to basically live in like this global hive mind where there's going to be nanocensors that are in your body that are sort of, you know, monitoring all of your biometrics and your biological signals. They're even going to be like harvesting energy from your metabolic. I think that's partly already happening. Like maybe not ubiquitously, but I think we can prove that to some degree what the, you know, whatever aspect or the medium it took to make. it happen that people already have that in their body to some degree. And so what you're talking about is the system that's then been built that's built to allow that to be what, like meshed across all humans. Like that's the kind of terrifying reality. Yeah, absolutely. Like they talk about how you know, 5G was the internet of things. That was essentially, you know, building out a two-way

Starting point is 00:31:48 mirror of sorts for all of our, you know, wearables and different sensors and manufacturing and industry and everything that goes into like the various processes like you were talking about smart dust being able to track shipping and and things like that and now it's entering this phase where we're going to be tracking people on a you know like a biological level you know they talk about the the medical body area network the wireless body area network right and all of that is all encompassed in 6g where you know it is essentially uh the the world simulated in a digital space in real time to reflect the real world and being able to not only monitor that, but maybe even, you know, when I think of like the neuromodulation thing, like being able

Starting point is 00:32:39 to control those things remotely. Well, yeah, and that's what I was highlighting. And the ferret nanoparticles only one aspect of that, right? There's all these different elements. I mean, a lot of different experimentation going on. But it's clear that the intention was to try to manipulate, if not control, which is what they approved in that Rockefeller study. That was the Magneto article from the Guardian. They literally remote controlled the mice. You know, like it's just, or there's an example of a cockroach

Starting point is 00:33:03 as well, where, you know, which is our, that's been done for quite a while. So it's just, this is getting to such incredible degree. Before we play Trump's clip, I want to go play that quick thing from about 20 years ago discussing that this is why I think this clip is so important. And I've always referenced this in this, in this discussion, because this is a symposium by experts about smart dust 20 years ago referencing something or I don't think it was about 12 years ago referencing something from 20 years ago that was DARPA's smart dust so just showing you that we and yet it's regarded as fake like most people think you're crazy when both of when we talk about smart dust they look at you like you're crazy it's out there i i could bring it up while we're playing

Starting point is 00:33:39 this even uh wals fargo has a patent which that i which i argue agree with everybody else that says that i don't prove that that means it's an existence but it shows you they're working on it in regard to having nanotechnology that would be just deployed from an ATM to be able to prove that you are who are insane if you've seen that i'll bring it up after we play this clip it's it's wild this is all out there and they're called mems it's like micro electric something i'll look it up in a second and that it's that's the kind of world we're talking about like you're just describing where these things are just ubiquitous and out there and there's being tapped into it's terrifying so this is this is the i think 12 year old conversation it's up there on the youtube video i'll check when we play this

Starting point is 00:34:17 and he's referencing something from darpa and you haven't really seen anything yet so this is closer to the end This is this powder-sized chip, and that's a salt crystal. So this is a small thing. It's something called the Mew Chip from Hitachi. It's the smallest commercially available RFID system in the world. And it can be pulse powered by radio waves. It doesn't require a battery. You can literally scatter this stuff like dust or embedded into a sheet of paper.

Starting point is 00:34:46 And you're where the really interesting thing about this technology is? This was commercially released 10 years ago. years ago. The video is 11 years old, borderline 12 years old. So he's referencing something that was 20 years ago released that is like dust, as he's about to describe, even more so, that's scattered on the wind that can land on your skin and use your body's own energy to propel itself. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:08 It just blows my mind that we can't have a real conversation about where this is today, especially with where it's all coming, you know? Absolutely. So the inevitability of smart dust. So what is smart dust? SmartDust, of course, isn't a new concept, is it originated with DARPA back in the 90s. It did. And it's general purpose computing, sensors, wireless networking, all bundled up into millimeter-scale sensor modes,

Starting point is 00:35:34 drifting in the air currents, flex of computing power, settling on your skin, ingested, monitoring you inside and out. And if you don't think that's possible, this is the Michigan micro-mote. It's a cubic millimeter in size. And in deference to the speaker before, yes, it runs an hour on processor. It's a tiny computer and it features data processing, data storage, wireless comms. And it's probably as close to the true smart dust vision from the early DARPA days as would come so far. They're designed to harvest energy from the environment around them and to communicate by a mesh network.

Starting point is 00:36:14 There it is. And of course, the energy is the key problem with it. Then it gives on the limitation of the time and so on. But I argue every single thing he goes on to discuss, it's a long discussion has come to pass. Yeah. They've not only met those expectations, but exceeded or rather the requirements. They're way beyond that at this point. So thoughts on that before I play the Trump clip.

Starting point is 00:36:35 I mean, I think you've seen this before, but it just every time it really does, this is the stuff of my nightmares. I say this every time. This genuinely worries me about what's already happening. And, you know, because I don't know how I can fight that. It makes me feel helpless, you know? Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. and that like this, I consider this to be like the greatest single threat to humanity. It's, it's essentially like the worldwide co-opting of everyone's agency without their awareness even.

Starting point is 00:37:03 Yes. And like the death of free will as we know it. Well, I was going to write down as you're saying that, you know, you put another post out about the tokenization of everything, which I love, that's an important conversation that I, you know, that's been something that's been discussed well before we got to this part of it. But now bringing that into where we are with the. digital ID and you know digital tokens and even with Gaza discussing that overlap for like their financial side of it you know it's it's clear that there's a part of this that overlaps uh witness discussed the idea of using the even with weirdly enough overlapping with graphene oxide and discussing about how they use that to sort of like monitor with smart dust elements like and tokenize

Starting point is 00:37:39 like nature and water and everything and those studies have been going on long before even the COVID-19 point like graphene oxide in the water to maintain you know weird stuff like that So giving your thoughts on that before we play the Trump clip, actually, on the, I know it's a large point, but the tokenization of everything and how this kind of plays in your mind. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, they talk about, you know, like dumping graphene oxide particles into like the ocean to study, you know, the way that, you know, things travel through the currents and then they're going to embed themselves into, like, the aquatic life and being able to measure, like, micro-bacterial levels inside the water and, you know, measure pollution. and all of these things they're doing it in the ocean they're doing it in the air they're you know whether they'll admit it or not um you know graphene oxide is a large part of like the chem trail spraying that happens there there's patents that they use for or that are out

Starting point is 00:38:35 there for graphene oxide for um you know cloud seeding and that that's uh part of the semi link to that actually because i don't doubt it at all and i would love to talk about that in the future not right now just in the future because that's that's so concerning you know i mean And my thing is somebody may go, well, that sounds great, you know, keep everything safe and secure. The problem, though, is that obviously aside from the, what I think the obvious, the surveillance and like we're discussing and how that's applied, far beyond what they're discussing, there's also health sides to this. You know, every time they do these things, you think they're concerned about whether that's

Starting point is 00:39:05 going to have some kind of repercussion or byproduct or side effect to the ocean or the world or the environment or the atmosphere. No, you know, they just don't. I don't think it's even on their minds. It's about how this can give them more control over all of it, you know? And it doesn't have to be ubiquitous to every person involved, but clearly that is the general point of the government that I've seen as far as I've been alive, you know, and that that very much concerns me. Absolutely. Like when you look at like the, the focus on, you know, like the in the moment short term gain, you know, with disregard all long term consequences and and the effects on people, like, I look at like the COVID vaccine is one of the number one examples.

Starting point is 00:39:43 And, you know, it seems like they, they don't care. They don't care about what's going to happen. It's about having as much control and as much information as possible right now and making their investors right now a bunch of money and to hell with the consequence. You know, and the scary overlap to this, and we can get into some of this with the network part is, you know, that a lot of these people who are pulling, like literally on the surface behind funding and influencing most of these conversations, many of them believe that they're going to become some sort of like profits of the technocratic age or they're going to,

Starting point is 00:40:18 live forever with their brain in the cloud or some transhumanist overlap and that's not my opinion they're writing about it they're discussing it you know and so that brings a different point to this where they're not really concerned about the longevity of the planet or the resources that are necessary for your puny human bodies you know and that may sound crazy to some people but if you care to look people like peter teal and the rest or and he seems to be the one everyone pretends we're focusing on despite him being ubiquitous and everything we're discussing regardless if you think peter teal's the guy look at all the rest of them look at and drison and karp and kirtis jarvin's philosophy and all the people tied up in the Prospera and Network State Colt discussion.

Starting point is 00:40:50 It's pretty alarming. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, the one thing that I like to focus on most is financial records. You know, they obviously money makes the world go round. And when you can point to those things and say, you know, Peter Thiel is throwing money at this and throwing money at that, that alone should be, you know, enough evidence for people to realize that he has completely ingrained himself over

Starting point is 00:41:16 the last 20 years in both sides of like the american infrastructure the military uh the information technology sectors uh and even the culture and you know he's he's one example of of probably 50 that i can think of to like that degree um and to then realize like all of the extremist like transhumanist belief systems that they had like the test screel thing as as a whole ideology like mark andresen is a you know self-described test realist Elon Musk, and it falls in line with that same climate agenda, COVID thing, where we know what's best for you or else. Right, right, right.

Starting point is 00:41:55 He just said on Rogan, not too long ago, that's like basically the idea, and this is kind of that philosophy driving from Yarvin and the rest, but it's like the good oligarchy, saving us for the bad oligarchy, you know, and that or Trump's discussion about like the means justifying the ends. It all comes from like this new, you know, it's what's being driven by that, you know? And you, what did you just mention it was the, go into the term you use. to describe them and describe what that means. Yeah, uh, tescreal.

Starting point is 00:42:20 So it's, um, it, it's basically an acronym and it, it stands for, uh, transhumanism, extropionism, uh, I believe it's singular singularitarianism, um, which is, you know, the, the, the belief that humans, the next logical phase in human evolution is, is, is merging with computers and merging with AI. Exactly. Yeah. Um, you have, Is this something they call themselves?

Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah, yeah, for the longest, yeah, for the longest time, Mark Andresen had Tescriolist in like his Twitter bio. He's changed it now, but I have a couple screenshots of it from, I think it was just earlier this year that he changed it. Keep going, sorry, my erratic brain jumping in with the question. Keep, keep explaining what it's good. No, you're good. And then you have a cosmism, which is, you know, essentially that they want to make

Starting point is 00:43:16 it's like multi-planetary and needing to get to like a type one civilization to do that and in order to do that they need to be able to monitor and control all energy you know input output on the planet um you have rationalism um effective altruism which is where that you know we know what's best for you we're going to do it you know just because we're the good guys uh that that that same rockefeller you know sort of mindset that they used to take over the medical industry yeah yeah the Fletcher report and all that. Yeah. It's the exact same thing.

Starting point is 00:43:46 And then long termism, which is essentially, you know, they're will, their want to desire to live forever. And, you know, you have like the centurion movement and things. That's where, you know, we get the, the transhumanist push for like eugenics and trying to like crisper themselves. And you have, you, you remember the Ambrosia story with Peter Thiel from back in the day. I just went over that again recently because I was. was touching on like this whole the conversation and I was going into the weird the gene

Starting point is 00:44:17 therapy like many circle on prosper in Honduras and the weird things they're doing and I just wanted to show people the kind of stuff there well there's also the Jim O'Neill aspect of RFK Jr right he's a huge longevity what the term they use like it's about what we're discussing it's about you're all pumped up that RFK brought him in because he's basically transhumanist he's talked about it you know it's like this is working its way in every possible way it's yeah this just speaks to the point we're making these guys do not believe that they're bound by the same limitations that we are that changes their whole worldview i mean the border borderline changes like this is where you get into the conversation like what happens when you

Starting point is 00:44:50 like the time machine analogy with more locks and whatever like the longer you continue to drive you know the have-nots and the halves apart from each other what how long until it's a different species yeah it's not really that crazy of a conversation honestly i mean i i mean i i could kind of see them you know wanting that to be in and ends to their means where there there there is like this very obvious dichotomy and essentially like a cast system where you'll have the ones that are willingly plugged in and they will get rewarded and you know they will they will get all the convenience and the luxury they'll get showered with you know digital currencies or something for acquiescing and then you'll have the the lesson grained but you know trying to resist at all

Starting point is 00:45:33 points um and we're going to basically be relegated to like shanty towns outside of the 15 minute cities that we're going to be treated like second class citizens just because we're our willingness to resist and dissent yeah well i welcome it right rather rather anarchy the tyranny every day of the week despite the fact that good company yeah yeah despite the fact that anarchy is not what they describe it as it's a good statement right like people often describe it as chaos but even then rather chaos and tyranny yeah absolutely right every single day of the week but let me play this clip before we get too far away from it because the 6g overlap and then i want to since you touched on it more let's get into the peter teal you know the overlap

Starting point is 00:46:08 to the you know palenteer really but the peter teal discussion and all that and we can even touch more on the the the the you know the ambrosia and which by the way if you don't remember that that is for i was listening it's about the injecting young blood to extend your life it's not a joke it's literally what they were doing and it even came out that it was like their studies people were going it doesn't even work the science shows it doesn't even work and they kept doing it for years more like yeah it's right bill 2023 apparently was still happening it's very very weird so let this is the clip about 6g and what's weird to me same as all the rest of these conversations is this is the guy like the conservative people were the ones, I think more than anybody screaming about why 5G was a problem.

Starting point is 00:46:44 Am I wrong on that? And now it's like the very least just absence of conversation in the team sport side when he's out there going, yay, it's great. And in what way? Because they can spy on us better. That's what he's talking about. So we're into 16 now. I just, I was, I was a leader on 5G getting that half a second in. And he's already like, I'm great. I did a good thing to me. I'm the one. Yeah. Yeah. Every time. They're up to six. Let's do it again. What is that to give you a little bit deeper view into somebody's skin?

Starting point is 00:47:16 Oh, God. I like the cameras the old days. So they just had a nice feature. Now they cover every little. Let's see, Michael, you're in good shape. You're not going to, but I tell you, it's, so you're six is coming. You know, I got to be honest, it's actually pretty smart. Now, I give, there are things he does sometimes where, like, he can be pretty damn crafty.

Starting point is 00:47:36 and in a pre you know i'll give him credit for it's dishonest it's disgusting but it's i've given credit for being good at it you know but he does sometimes like what i'm saying is him laughing and sort of like making a joke about the very alarming thing that every like the skin part like okay there's one of a few ways to look at this he is either of the mind that he like like joking about the fact that this has always been invasive and spying on you and not about technology and then making that the joke which is so like out of touch or he thinks that's the joke because it's not real and has no idea what's really going on but the fact that they can just brush off and the conservative media that this guy just made a joke about literally deep i mean

Starting point is 00:48:16 and there's the studies you were referencing and go into that for me about the idea of what that can do about like looking beyond the skin and like all the different overlaps to it i what do you think about this this guy just blows my mind sometimes absolutely i mean you know when when i I think about everything that he's kind of been involved with and, you know, his, his ties to, you know, the Zionist, essentially the worldwide Zionist arm of everything. And their obsession with, you know, surveilling, monitoring everybody, you know, that I think the Israeli government, you remember the, their huge role in pushing the COVID vaccines. Netanyahu even has that trophy of the syringe. and so I think that they're they're kind of working like hand in hand and I think that Donald Trump is like full aware of what's going on especially considering like all of the knowledge that his uncle had back in the day you know and Trump being tied to like the Roy Cone thing, the Epstein thing, the Rockefellers or the Rothschilds and so on and so forth like I think he very much knows that he is supposed to be ushering this in and that is why. he plays this role, right?

Starting point is 00:49:28 This we're going to just stick it to the lives and we're going to focus on like partisan politics and the theater of it all so that people will look at that while this stuff can kind of be, you know, built behind the scenes. And then before anybody has the opportunity to fully understand it and what it is and what it means for us, they're going to flip the switch on and, you know, we're going to be living it. Yeah. And, you know, and I agree.

Starting point is 00:49:53 And I think that's kind of the idea is to kind of gaslight us into the point. to where we there's no return you know and and i know it's just to better clarify my point what i was saying is just like it's effective you know it's it's people will watch that and then brush it off because they think he's making a joke that's one way right the other way is to almost downplay the importance of that like and like well if he's saying it and is acknowledging that can't be bad right because trump's the good guy and i'm on his team like that's the kind of that's another layer of it you know there's all these but it's it's well crafted because people it works for some of them but i don't think it's working for the majority anymore you know that is alarming the idea that you're just casually

Starting point is 00:50:28 referencing an invasive spying system you know and then what what do you think this is going to go and that that's where this next part is the palantier spying which is already happening through the guys of immigration they're for surveilling the entire population and through that israel not a joke like you've discussed this and israel getting access to basically every data point the us government has through the AI collaboration which is what they did removing the silos of basically everything and they used it all to do you know collaborate you know uh consolidate data and now Palantir under the guise of immigration is spying on everybody you add this to it and that becomes the point you're making the alarming next step about the the nanotech smart dust the overlap

Starting point is 00:51:04 right so let's talk about Palantir and I want to show one of your things then you give me your thoughts on this general cause as include Derek's article welcome to the Palantir world order you the this is a post you put out the Department of Education just got a fresh injection of Palantir surveillance software it's happening everywhere yeah I can't it's almost borderline ubiquitous at this point I couldn't find anything confirming that this, but I think it's probably safe to assume that just like with FARA, Israel probably doesn't qualify as foreign. I completely agree. But I'm glad you said that, you know, it gets an opinion, but this is every single time this kind of comes around, it's like they absorb, they pretend like

Starting point is 00:51:38 it's not, you know, it's funny how it's sometimes they want to pretend Israel's part of the Middle East and at the time they want to be like it's not, you know, it's Eurovision. It's so funny how they play that. But this is an alarming overlap. Pallentier quietly lands an education department through foreign funding. And then there was this point you mentioned about Pallentere being involved with the pager attack in lebanon which i wasn't even aware of it's just overwhelming and then even in german state parliament using pallieteer police software gotham you know it's just exploding everywhere so give me your thoughts on the whole thing yeah so um you know when when they had talked about doge coming in and kind of gutting the government i i tried to drive home the point that like

Starting point is 00:52:13 they're they're not getting rid of those bureaucracies or institutions they are getting rid of the people within those bureaucracies and institutions to give the illusion that they're gutting the government right and they're they're replacing it with AI and um you know most of the doge people were actually either scouted or recruited by peter teal there's been articles that kind of came out about that um and you know the fact that what was it six months ago trump was signing you know an executive order saying he was getting rid of the department of education and now you know to turn around six months later and instead it was well jokes on you guys actually the department of education is staying, but we're going to, you know, automate it with this Palantir AI. And, and essentially

Starting point is 00:52:55 what they're using it for in this instance right here is that they are scanning, uh, the financial records of every, uh, institution, uh, university, uh, in America. And they are trying to identify whether or not they have received money from like foreign entities. Um, and that, that goes right in line with like the, the, you know, Bill Akman sort of led, you know, charge against the same universities and stuff claiming the anti-Semitism stuff and that they were getting foreign investments and you know that it just kind of seems to come like full circle uh you know and and i i don't really know what it's going to take to to really show people that the the same like technocracy goals that they had you know a hundred plus years ago those are still the goals

Starting point is 00:53:45 and they've just kind of like change shape a little bit and you know AI is something maybe they they weren't able to predict back then but that you know that that's going to be the lifeblood of all of this yeah i mean i it's i mean i don't understand how this is even in any way disregarded like i get the people don't want to see it i mean there's always that right there's always a level of the conversation that's just like i it's like a choice it scares me or i don't it changes my life and i don't want to look at it but now that's that's there right but then the people that are at least engaging with the information i don't even in what world can you pretend like this is not happening like that's what just blows my mind

Starting point is 00:54:20 They're openly showing this. Now, you can argue that it's all good, but this is what I'm talking about when you look at an Alex Jones, the rest of them, where they're coming out and acting like, no, no, no, you're just wrong. It's like, how does anybody not just like laugh out loud at these people today, you know? Because what's happening is so visceral, it's so in our face, and it's everything you just described. And I agree, this is absolutely where it's going, and it's becoming ubiquitous. And so here is, just to make this point, this is what Alex Jones said with Nick Fuentes about Palantir, back when they discussed this. is interesting. I'm more concerned about this suite of companies, though, like Palantir, which is they're feeding all of the data over to Palantir so they can manipulate it with algorithms.

Starting point is 00:55:00 And they're everywhere. They're looking at the wastewater during the COVID pandemic. But you're back to this. I've looked at the scale of Palantir, and it's tiny compared to DeepSeek and all these others. Which by the way, when he first said that, I was like, okay, fair, like funding, you know, because they were going, but that's not even true today. Like it's flatly not even true anymore. but it might not even been then, by the way. And chat GPT, and I'm not like defending Peter Thiel. I'm just saying it's like I get it from the liberals and the... Republicans?

Starting point is 00:55:30 Israel obsessed, what do you want to call it? Just palantir, palantir, palantir. They have an enemies list. They have an enemy's list of two to three million people that they've identified as potential violent extremists. And this is being run by Alex Karp. Alex Karp said his biggest fear is that Christian nationalist will take over the government and throw him out of a window, defenestrate him because he's Jewish.

Starting point is 00:55:53 He's running Palantir. Palantir has an enemy's list of 3 million people. So Alex Carp doesn't like you? I don't think so. I don't know him. See how he deflects with like a joke, essentially, right? Doesn't engage him with the actual information? But probably not. But you don't want to throw him out of a window. I don't want to throw him out of a window.

Starting point is 00:56:09 But I don't think he should control Palantir. I don't think he should control military procurement. That's my concern. And Peter Thiel, I mean, he's a suspicious character also. He says he's a Christian, but he's a gay man. He says he's a Christian, but he's really involved with this René Girard, who's sort of an interesting philosopher who's involved with a lot of the Straussians out there at the Hoover Institute. So these are two guys they don't. Yeah, Carp's got a degree basically in classical Western civilization.

Starting point is 00:56:34 But what is Western to these people? You know, according to Harry Jaffa, Western means protecting Israel. Great input, Alex Jones. Way to borderline defend him with, you know, it's just, it just kills me, you know. But so what's funny about Nick Flindez, before we talk about this is, you know, I don't, something about him just always has rubbed, just. it's off something feels suspicious to me but doesn't they know just like anybody massey and clout i wouldn't consider what they're saying but he with this he comes like presents well you know what i mean he comes out with facts and information whether you disagree with some of the points he makes that at borderline

Starting point is 00:57:03 bigoted half the time the point is that he is saying something that is actual and alice jones is pushing it down so that could be your false binary right there you know what i mean like showing the information without letting come out but either way i think what he said was correct i just think it's funny that alex is acting like it's not happening even right now you know absolutely and And like with Nick Pontes specifically, and like I've seen him, like he was praising the passing of the big beautiful bill because it was going to be weaponized against immigration. And, you know, when it when it comes to surveilling the population for immigrant, you have no choice. You have to spy on everybody. Otherwise, how will you know who is and isn't an immigrant?

Starting point is 00:57:39 That's insane. And so it's that that flip-flopping to me that, you know, makes me think that he's like an inauthentic character. And I, so that's exactly what I would say, but I would never claim I could prove that, right? the point would be that maybe he just thinks those opinions are right. And who's to say he's wrong? I mean, maybe I'm wrong, you know? It's like, there are people that just have really dumb opinions. Like, it just doesn't always make you know, that's why it's important to be, you know, objective

Starting point is 00:57:57 about it. But I agree with you, man. I think there's something weird with that whole thing. And many other, even like Marginle Green, for example, I think she's been saying great things about Israel, but she came out hot about all left terrorists and lefty, right, you know, terrorist monsters and Antifa, you know, just really and whether there's an element of that, very much

Starting point is 00:58:13 using that to push the, the real problem, you know? And, and the point he made though, which I do think is valid. This is a different discussion, or rather different, a part of the discussion. Palantir does have a compilation, which extends from the same old, long-term, contuitive government, you know, the list they carry. This is a new one. Now, this is Ken Klupenstein's the one that actually broke this story.

Starting point is 00:58:36 I actually have the memo right here. I've downloaded to the T-Live server. It's from the Office of Terry General. This is Pam Bondi. And here's the actual post from Ken Kliberstein, I'll include. but newly leaked memo targets anyone who isn't a Trump supporter. Here really quickly is the I just the way that Times of India

Starting point is 00:58:55 point this together, they actually gave you like a little bullet point list which is I just didn't like included. And this is what the list that discusses. Opposition to law and immigration. Extreme views in favor of mass immigration. So even Republicans are out there going and deport them all. He thinks you're a terrorist. Adherence to radical general ideology, anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti-Christianity.

Starting point is 00:59:15 and you get into it and it's basically just anything we think is suspicious yeah you know and so that's pan bondy that's cash betel and so i don't i don't disagree you know yeah so brings us back to the palanterial overlap and where this is going and the idea of AI being pushed on us all you know it's very clear you're you put an example of the the kind of bait and switch which we're discussing right another push gets past the goalpost for global digital only currency and touch on that if you'd like but i want to just end with the larger conversation about where this is going in regard to the network state cult and really just my point largely about what I think is a mass like you just highlighted by the way about the paradigm shift around the medical

Starting point is 00:59:56 conversation a may flexion report and you know they literally were putting people in positions and boards boards of colleges like they were you know they made that happen and I think we're going through another one of those right now you know the funding around the network state the idea of what they're doing it's like 120 things around the world and I really do think as else this my title was Trump and the zionage global technocrats are building your new society whether you like it or not so let's end on talking about that and I just I am this is in your face right now and I'm worried this is the largest conversation that few people are talking about what do you think about it absolutely yeah it's it's one of those things where you know when when we look at like

Starting point is 01:00:34 the the phenomenon that happened with like the the original run of MAGA right where they they claim to be just like this whole anti-establishment um you you know, completely independent, you know, way to burn down the systems that are for like a radical change. It's the same thing that happened, you know, with the sentiments behind the original Obama campaign. Yeah, right. You know, hope and change and everything like that. And and so what, what we're kind of seeing, and I think you've done a little more extensive research, but like essentially techno feudal states that are kind of popping up everywhere. And it's under the guise of, you know, we're going to be free and independent of this, like, global governance system of, like, NATO and the U.N. and bricks and, uh, everything like that. And, and, you know, you have things like, uh, like praxis is a, a company that, uh, Peter Thiel's funding through pronomos. Uh, and. Yeah, pronomos. Uh, is it, was it pronounced that way? I've, I never looked into it. I was saying pronomos. Is it, what? How'd you say it? Uh, pronomos. Pronomos. Yeah. Um, yeah. Um, I think you're right. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And

Starting point is 01:01:44 And so this practice thing essentially, like what they want to do is they want to create like this floating fortress of a city that that exists right outside of like the regional waters of a specific country. I believe they're focusing primarily on the United States. And what they want to do is they want to have like their own independent nation state where they have their own citizens that aren't legal, you know, citizens of whatever bordering nation they're a part of. and to be able to legally ferry those people into the neighboring country, like the United States, for example. So, like, building it off of the East Coast and then taking everybody in that country and, you know, boating them in every day with, like, a passport. And that way they're able to, like, legally, daily immigrate into the country,

Starting point is 01:02:34 work and then take capital and take it back to their nation state and then build the economy that way, sort of siphoning off of this nation. that's interesting now it's pretty clear like with prosper i've discussed it's very clear that that's happening a good example it's crawfish rock is a small town just outside of it that's like they're destroying our environment a river stop running they're taking every like it's clear that they're doing it's like it's like what the ai data centers are doing it's like the same kind of thing in these small towns where it's like absorbing everything and the town's gone you know yeah but that it's like there are examples where it's not like a relay right like you're like

Starting point is 01:03:09 you actually brought this up before we discussed the sea steading aspect which stopped, but apparently it started up again. These utopian paravises, which is what they call them, it's insane. On the high seas have a history of failure. So they're reiterated or restarting the same agenda on the sea. So it's kind of spinning out everywhere.

Starting point is 01:03:27 My point, though, is that the main thing is like this, as you described it, the techno-feudal, but sort of like a colonial project. You know, it is like, Honduras is very clear. That's why Prospera really caught my attention before I even knew any of this stuff. I was just like, what is this?

Starting point is 01:03:43 this weird you know basically the 2009 coup by the united states put some put people in place that allowed this to become more amenable now in 2014 i believe uh they allowed this i think that that was the time when orlando hernandez were there who trump just pardoned he was there he's the one that allowed this to happen illegally using this illegal engagement then also manipulate his free court because they weren't letting it happen to force them to allow this to happen gave them a special autonomous zone 2020 he was removed went to jail for four to 500 tons of cocaine and trump pardoned him by the way again and and so but the point was he was the one that was central in creating this the presidency after that with you know which

Starting point is 01:04:21 which i think you can clearly see the most hondurans don't want this because it's like it's like it's like having this thing absorbing things in the middle of your country and they're asking like why would americans want that you know they don't want that there and so then they deemed it unconstitutional they said they have to leave and they never did in fact they kept building there's more to more than one location now and now this comes to where where I knew this was coming. I said this before he even came out from Trump because even the Honduras government said so.

Starting point is 01:04:45 I said he's going to try to regime change the country. And I said it was for Prospera. I think there's more involved. But here we are, which I think they completely manipulated that election. You know, they pardoned. And this actually brings this point to the forefront, which is interesting to me.

Starting point is 01:04:57 This is written by Roger Stone in January. How President Trump can crush socialism and save a freedom city. That's what he's calling Prospera. And the pronomal's capital, or however you pronounced it, That is the funding mechanism behind the freedom city push in the United States, behind these techno-feudal dystopian hellscapes that they're building around the world,

Starting point is 01:05:16 and it's all coming home to the United States. But he pushed Trump to actually pardon this guy, arguing that this would allow them to manipulate this election, allow them to get this agenda and save Prospera. So I'm at the point now where I think that these things are like Trump is regime-changing countries for Prospera. You know why Greenlight was even a conversation? Because Peter Thiel asked Donald Trump for Greenland to make it a freedom city. that's that's a real conversation this thing this is just like this like momentum is happening right now and it just

Starting point is 01:05:44 terrifies me so where do you where do you think all this is going um so you know when when we look at like what i would consider maybe you know by all accounts of like merit a successful venture for them would would be a place like el salvador um where you know uh bucali he is pro zionist he is pro the Israeli agenda he has the you know that mass prison where he's able to just mass incarcerate people bypass any sort of you know due process or anything like that and you know the fact that he's like so heavy into the crypto markets and the fact that he was basically one of the first countries to adopt crypto is like an official currency you know he's he's partnering with a bunch of you know tech companies to basically turn El Salvador into

Starting point is 01:06:34 a giant smart country instead of a smart city um and all of that was under the guise of you know getting rid of the the criminal uh entity that was sort of there and and a lot of that was manufactured by you know u.s interventionism um really quickly just in case people don't remember this he made a deal with ms 13 even the u.s government called that out and the data is very clear which is why they shifted a bunch of them back over there so they couldn't testify in court during trump's administration like this this one keep going i just think that's an important you know literally working with the very gangs we're using to justify arresting Americans.

Starting point is 01:07:07 Absolutely. Yeah, well, you remember that Trump had mentioned something about like being able to take American citizens and, you know, shipping them off to El Salvador and Buckely was like, I'm all for it. Let's do it. Five times he made that point. Yeah. And, and, you know, I look

Starting point is 01:07:24 at that and it just kind of, to me, seems like they succeeded, where now, you know, they mainly operate on a lot large digital currency basis. I believe they've sort of pulled back on the Bitcoin thing because of how volatile it's been. And it's been like an overall just negative experience for the citizens there. But still the fact that they were like mandating issuance of it as an official coin.

Starting point is 01:07:49 Like you have, you know, tether. Brock Pierce was actually like one of the people helping to negotiate a lot of the crypto policies in El Salvador. And, you know, when I look at people like like Eric Prince, whose entire job seems to be, uh, you know, going to countries like this to help, uh, basically establish like paramilitary groups. Right. Uh, and, and he has a very clear relationship with the IDF and with Israel. Yeah. And the Trump administration and people like Mike Flynn and, uh, you know, his, his sister was the Department of Education Secretary in Trump's first term. They're all part of the, the council for national policy that has like Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk was on there as well.

Starting point is 01:08:31 And so it's like it's all tied up in this same thing. Yeah, exactly. Eric Prince right there. And like he has. That's an Israeli spy he's working with. Go ahead. Yeah. Well, like looking at his like unplugged phone company where it's literally a member of the,

Starting point is 01:08:47 the former member of the IDF and like the NSO group. Isn't it funny how they just disappeared though? His microphone, even Trump's megaphone turned out to be like Israel and China. And they both disappeared. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, you kind of just have like these, all these things that seem to be like their own thing that the further that you zoom out, it is all connected. And the fact that, you know, Alvin Krongaard, who was the CIA director that basically injected Eric Prince into everything by securing those Blackwater contracts in Iraq and everything. And looking at what he did with like Alex Brown and Sons to kind of operate in the. same way that like founders fund has done and black rock and things where it's the military industrial complex basically funding technology companies that are seemingly you know started in a

Starting point is 01:09:38 garage yeah and we're seeing that here and he has contracts in Haiti um there there was actually an article that came out earlier this year that you know blackwater uh had bombed a birthday party in Haiti and killed eight children um he has uh contracts in honduras he was working with bukeley um with the roundup thing he's Eric Prince has mentioned running like privatized FEMA camps here in America to serve as like impromptu concentration camps for would be dissidents quick report on that did you see that there I think it was a human rights watch I believe I could be wrong but it was a human rights group did a report on alligator alcatraz and apparently it was rife with human rights violations abuse torture like and this this is you know the example is

Starting point is 01:10:25 that's what's coming if we allow that to grow even further you know that's that's pretty terrifying i'll try to grab that included the show notes yeah absolutely and and you know it it just reminds me that like he is tied to figures um like mike flynn who you know was very very close with like paul valetly and michael lakino michaelicino being like a high-ranking military official that was a satanist self-proclaimed satanist and i still argue every time that comes up i'm like people out there listening like that that can't that can't be true look it up it's weird like it's eyebrows and the whole thing like it's like how did that it's different time i guess Absolutely. Well, you know, you look into like their book like the the 5G warfare thing and like the future of psychological warfare and the fact that all of those methodologies and stuff that are that are they're talking about in that we not only saw through like the Q sci op and that was basically like the Russia's like Operation Trust 2.0 and all the way into like this neuromodulation stuff.

Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah. And sort of carrying that forward as well because, you know, we had mentioned. In the last time I was here, that that nanobiosim that's owned by that same Colson capital that owns the wellness company in 1776. So you have that whole Patriot side of it also and like the health freedom movement that was co-opted to push the same nanotech. And it just, it seems to come full circle. And, you know, they get to not only cause the problems, but then point at them and say we have the solutions. Yes. But I don't want to skip. The point you just made, though, this is kind of.

Starting point is 01:11:57 the crux of everything we're talking about, right? Like, this is the great reset. And the point is, like, let me ask you this directly, you know, the question, do you think COVID-19 is, is, you know, was in its entirety or a part, like a precursor or a part of this entire agenda? Or was it just, you know, were there just parts of it that were applied to achieve this? You know, I feel like it might be a larger connection. Yeah, absolutely. I think that COVID was was kind of used very similarly to the way that, like the the Great Depression was used where they were able to create like this universal financial emotional hardship uh on everybody and then you know right after the Great Depression happened you had FDR come in and he started things like the special studies project where

Starting point is 01:12:43 you know Rockefeller and people that were part of MIT and and like the Manhattan project and setting up NASA they came in with like these radical socialist policies um you know that that's when we ended up getting on like the the standardization of the IMF and the world bank that's when we got social security numbers and and all these things and and i think that covid was sort of used as something very similar where if they beat everybody down as low as possible then whatever they end up ushering in forward as the right answer for it is it works is what we're getting it works you know i mean people it's it's people will take it's the same way i argue that sanctions work right is you know that iranians or that

Starting point is 01:13:25 or you know continue down the track they're very aware if you just take care to look look on twitter they know what's going on they know that this is outside influence they know that they're you know so the sanctions are applied like go back to the ronian like the peak of like the massive starvation that was happening they know that what's they know it's the u.s government doing it but in that moment they're going okay well my child is starving to death in my arms so at this point i don't care what happens next come in take over i don't care i'll support it stop my child from dying like that's the that has been openly discussed by people like bolton or going back further like like a Kissinger, they know what they were doing.

Starting point is 01:13:56 These are meant to coercive tools to hurt the people they claim they're trying to protect to gain what they want from it. You know, and that's everywhere you look right now. Trump's administration right now is just, I guess, just bad at hiding it. Maybe they don't want to anymore. I tend to think it's because Israel is doing something that causes that to, you know, I don't think they're in control of all these conversations, but that's a different point to get into.

Starting point is 01:14:15 But I do think it's relevant. I think that Zionism is a huge part of this. But, you know, we can get into that another time. But I just think that this right now is continuing to spin out. And people are seeing it. But what's happening is they're, I guess, scattered, you know, the partisanship. We need to get, we need to collect. And, you know, I'm never calling for violence.

Starting point is 01:14:35 But this is a, yeah, pitchforks and torches in the street kind of thing. You know, like this cannot be something that we allow to continue to progress the way that it is. You know, let's wrap this with, you know, where do you think this is going? How close do you think we are to what we're discussing? And, you know, what for people out there going like, what do we do? You know, what's your answer? If you have one, because I don't think I do. Well, if anybody can find a way to nonviolently yet forcefully, like maybe dismantle data centers, that's definitely a good start.

Starting point is 01:15:06 You know, because it is one of those things where they get you on a catch 22 where it seems like they are doing their best to eliminate, you know, like non-physical means of being able to up into system like this. But then if you could turn around and try to advocate for anything that they've made still in the realm of possibility, then you're considered like. a violent extremist and a terrorist and things like that and they could just lock you up kill you so on and so forth um so i would never advocate you know for violence obviously and and it is one of those things where you know at the end of the day everything is a market including the government the powers that be um where they need your participation uh in order to continue this agenda so you know i think that that's where sort of the responsibility falls on all of us as individuals to like do our due diligence and question everything and vet everything because like every

Starting point is 01:15:57 dollar that you put that goes into black rocks pocket for example that is another dollar that they're going to use to fund something else and it just becomes like this self-fulfilling prophecy you know vicious like or a boros if you will of us eating our own tails because we're too afraid to like focus on what's in front of us yeah and another example of the whole like you know black rocks the the worst thing in the world except when now he's on our side and it's unity party and we're winning you know it's just it's a black rock is either you know oh nice pop up you know it's clearly that black rock is what conservatives we're calling it it's it's called it's called a shadow bank in its own terms you know this is a problematic entity but the fact that larry think is just like

Starting point is 01:16:37 you know just like the rest of the conversation or at his inauguration having all of silicon valley you know it just we all can see what's going on this is not what people said it was i'm just hoping more people can have the courage to call that out at this point you know and i just think i think that where we are right now people need to kind of get some of these petty kind of partisan divides and and to what you said you know no no one i down anyone here is asking you to or suggesting that you should do anything illegal or go out and do anything violent but it's interesting is that you talk about the the deflot website for example right the guy who does the camp literally called them a terrorist organization so doing something that's completely legal will still be deemed terrorism by people that

Starting point is 01:17:15 don't want you to call what they're doing so just recognize that and you got to find a line out there to find you know like what i'm doing for example what you're doing can be called it is called terrorism or in some way or shape or form of manipulation you know that they could argue we should be at least centered or put in jail for which is what's happening right now but what we're doing is completely you know constitutional legal and so i'm going to continue to do what i believe in even if they're going to threaten me with something if i find it unjust you know what's where we all should be and if we you know find your line out there we talked about this on the iMA as well like we all to find those lines for each one of these things now recognize where that line is before you're

Starting point is 01:17:51 facing it because it's going to be much more difficult to make that choice when they're dangling the future of your children over you when you're trying to make that choice you know whatever it is as it comes so thanks for tuning it or being here today brother i really i always enjoy our conversations there's so much going on out there's we want to leave us with final thoughts upcoming events whatever you want to talk about yeah absolutely i mean i you know i i think at the end of the day um you know that this biodigital convergence stuff is especially when you start to pull in everything that we've kind of talked about today with like the the nanoscale technology, the neuromodulation, the wireless signals, the, you know, venture capital technocrat, sort of sphere of influence,

Starting point is 01:18:27 all sort of propagated behind this whole fake independence, fake liberty, fake patriotism, sort of guys. Like I think this is like the number one threat to all of us and something everyone should be talking about. So I really appreciate the fact that, you know, you're open to this information and you can kind of vet and verify it for yourself, see the credibility behind it because it does seem like something that people either are too afraid to try to understand. And I think that that is going to be like the biggest detriment to the individual. But also just like the fear of like what will people think

Starting point is 01:19:05 if I talk about this like extremely radical thing. And you know, to me it's an issue that's as simple as humanity versus anti-humanity. And I don't think that the line in the sand could be drawn. on any clearer than that. And that alone should be enough to make us maybe set aside less differences for the sake of at least ending this. Because this is the death of free will as I kind of come to understand it and that nobody should be on board with that. Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, I'll take it one step further too. And, you know, regardless of whether, you know, if you're out there and you believe something, you look at something and you know and you and

Starting point is 01:19:42 everything in you says that's wrong, you know, or your principles, your integrity, like everything stands at you're like that should not be what's happening and you look around and literally nobody else agrees with you you should still stand up and say it yes but somebody has to be the first one to stand up and be like ah that's wrong you know that's incorrect or that's not what we should happen aren't we better than this somebody and usually of course they're the one that gets hard and feathered you know but you know i'm not suggesting that you should accept accept that you're going to be punished but the point is that you need to follow what you believe in otherwise what are we doing here you know yeah like don't we cowed by the conversation and i actually do believe as i started with that that is

Starting point is 01:20:15 what's happening like that that's a momentum right now that they're having i think they're terrified about that people are starting to see what people like us are doing they're starting to see that there is there are people out there that are real that care that actually you know and most of us are relegated to some corner because they don't want us to be seen but it is gaining momentum and i think that's a positive thing so thank you again brother always enjoyed the conversation looking forward to the next one and as always everybody out there question everything come to your own conclusions. Stay vigilant. One man who knows the dangers only too well is Amman Jabby, who was at the forefront of digital development in Silicon Valley, California, for 25 years.

Starting point is 01:20:53 He left when he recognized the dark side of surveillance technology, choosing instead the peace and beauty of Montana. He's an expert in facial recognition. It's a technique that is used to uniquely identify the biometrics of any face. So in a device like your smartphone and most modern smartphones in the last five or seven years, they have a 3D camera module in the front of the phone which you cannot see. Within that module is a near-infrared projector

Starting point is 01:21:29 which projects tens of thousands of dots on your face. Those dots are then distorted based on the contours and the features of your face and there's a near infrared camera then takes a picture of that distortion, captures it and then reverse engineers the exact profile of your face. In the longer term, facial recognition will be used to unlock your digital identity, which is going to be a tool of control for the agendas that are coming down the pipeline. Elements of that control are already with us. Alexa, good morning.

Starting point is 01:22:09 Good morning. You are never alone in your home, and this is why. All your devices at home and all smart appliances, they are all connected on a wireless network. Many of these devices will have cameras, many will have microphones, and so they are monitoring everything all the time. Your smart appliances are communicating with the smart meter,

Starting point is 01:22:32 and sending it real-time usage data. If there's a ring camera also in your home, a mesh network is formed and all your devices are being tracked within the home, its location, its usage, and all the data is going to Amazon servers. When you leave your home, all modern vehicles are connected to the internet,

Starting point is 01:22:55 so your automobile is being tracked all the time. When you're going under a string of smart LED poles LED poles and smart LED lights on the highway and in the streets of your towns and cities, those form a wireless network and are tracking your vehicle. They are tracking all the devices on you from smartphones to smart watches when you're walking on the streets. So data is being collected 24-7 continuously on every human being whenever you are within these wireless networks. And it's obviously not good for health also because of all the electromagnetic radiation. In the long term, the plan is to pretty much lock up humanity in smart cities, which is kind of a super set of a 15-minute city.

Starting point is 01:23:42 They've sold all the state and local governments and countries that smart cities are about sustainability and the good of the city. But in reality, the language from the UN and WEF and their white papers is all inverted. So, air monitoring is really about limiting mobility and no car ownership, right? Surveillance control via LED grid is why the smart lighting is there. Water management is about water rationing, noise pollution is about speed surveillance, traffic monitoring is about limiting mobility, and then, of course, energy conservation is all about rationing heat, electricity and gasoline. Another concept one should be familiar with is called geo fencing and think of it as an invisible fence around you where you cannot go beyond a certain point and that will be related to your face recognition, digital identity and access control.

Starting point is 01:24:42 Your smart contracts, software can turn off your digital currency beyond a certain point from your house. Our world has been turned into a digital panopticon. That means you can be monitored, analyzed, managed, and monetized. Surveillance capitalists are already making billions of dollars selling our information to big corporations, because this kind of detailed knowledge enables them to predict and influence our behavior. You know what I'm going to be.

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