The Last American Vagabond - Derrick Broze Interview - David Leavitt's Rebranding & How The Jan 6 Pipe Bomber Suspect Got Flocked

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

Joining me today is Derrick Broze, here to discuss an update in his in-depth TLAV series surrounding David Leavitt, David Lee Hamblin, and the investigation into ritualistic child sexual abuse conducted by the Utah County Sheriff’s Office. We also discuss how license plate readers and cell towers were used to track down and charge the alleged January 6 pipe bomber—despite the numerous discrepancies and inconsistencies in the evidence that suggest he was not the one responsible—as well as the larger Flock camera revolution now underway.Source Links:Derrick Broze, Author at The Last American Vagabond- The Conscious Resistance NetworkJoin Us for The Activation Tour 2026!New Tab(21) More Perfect Union on X: “The Trump administration approved three new “forever chemical”-based pesticides last week for use on food crops, including corn and soybeans — the most widely grown crops in the country — as well as wheat, kiwi, oats, peas, broccoli and coffee. These new chemicals —” / XFederal Court Overturns Historic Fluoride Ruling as Trump Admin Fights to Keep Fluoride in the WaterLawsuit Reveals “Cruel” Experiments on Kittens Continue Under Kennedy and TrumpMAHA Bait and Switch? Trump’s EPA Calls for Review of Fluoride Science While Ignoring Historic Ruling on FluorideTrump’s FCC Seeks to Strip Even More Local Control Over 5G RolloutHere Are 18 Ways Trump Supported The Swamp During His PresidencyThe Ongoing Engineered Division Of The United States: Fake Patriots vs Fake PatriotsWelcome to 2030: I Own Land, Live Among Like Minded People, and Life Has Never Been BetterNew Tab(21) Thomas Massie on X: “It’s a travesty of justice that this autistic suspect will be behind bars for over a year without trial just so @FBIDirectorKash can say he solved the case and hope to extract a plea deal. And it’s criminal that the real instigators are still roaming free after 6 years.” / XWhat we know about the suspect in January 2021 D.C. pipe bomb case, DOJ saysdlYou Are A Terrorist If You Resist Data Centers & Israel’s Infiltration Of Flock and AI SurveillanceELSAG Integrated Signal Intelligence PlatformLeonardo signs two agreements with Israeli Innovation Authority and Ramot Tel Aviv University in the field of innovation(21) Military Arms on X: “Check this out, a @Flock_Safety system captured this lady driving with her phone on her lap (face down) and the state mailed her a $1251 ticket... because “public safety”! #deflockme https://t.co/3ppZFarOAQ” / XMilwaukee police detective charged with misusing Flock surveillance cameras(21) The Last American Vagabond on X: “@EricLDaugh Tell us what you THINK about this Eric? Odd that you guys keep leaving out the commentary (you always include) when covering this topic. I wonder why? Could it be that the vast majority of Americans support this action, but the establishment team you gaslight for does not? 🤔” / XMexican Government Delays Biometric Registration Deadline After Massive Public Resistance - The Last American VagabondAir Force Engineer Accused of Cutting Down 13 Police Cameras Says They’re Unconstitutional(20+) WAVY TV 10 - On Feb. 25, a man was sentenced to a year in jail... | FacebookNew TabHow a Member of a Powerful Utah Family Escaped a Federal Trafficking Investigation and Reinvented Himself as an Instagram InfluencerNew Prosecutor Assigned to Case of David Hamblin, Admitted Child Abuser, Right As Charges May Be Dropped on ThursdayJustice Delayed: An Investigation into Gordon B. Hinckley & Walton Hunter(4) InstagramNicholas Rossi prosecutor: I was his victim, but I pitied himBitcoin Donations Are Appreciated:www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/bitcoin-donation(3FSozj9gQ1UniHvEiRmkPnXzHSVMc68U9f)The Last American Vagabond Substack is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Last American Vagabond Substack at tlavagabond.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome to The Last American Vagabond. Joining me today is Derek Brose, founder and editor of the Conscious Resistance.com and lead writer for The Last American Vagabond to discuss some of his important work in general and some of the important articles he put out through The Last American Vagabond and some just interestingly cut interesting developments in stories he's been covering for quite a long time. But before we get into all that, Derek, how are you? And I wanted to first talk about the event you have coming up in Nashville. I'm in larger just Activation Tour.

Yeah, thanks for that. Well, and yeah, I'm excited for this tour. Excited to see you in just a couple of weeks. I'm about to hit the road as we're recording the next day or so. I'll be starting here in Texas. And for those who haven't heard, it's called the Activation Tour. I am doing, I think it came out to 34 cities. We've already done the southwest, west coast, and Pacific Northwest of the U.S. in May.

And now here in July, I'll be hitting the road. I've got three dates in Houston starting this weekend. And then we go up to the Midwest through Kansas, Missouri, up to Minneapolis. Cleveland, Columbus, all the way over to New York City and in Baltimore, and then we'll go all the way down to do a few cities in Florida. And yeah, I mean, the basic goal of this tour, the reason I'm doing it is because, as you know, man, we've been talking about these issues. We started working together in spring of 2020, so at least that long, so six years now. And at that time, we were facing the threat of COVID-1984 and people were preparing for, you know, vaccine passports and mandates and the, the masks and the lockdowns and all those sort of stuff. And that got a good, good chunk of the

crowd of, let's say, people questioning things actually thinking about what are we going to do about it. And you remember, I mean, people were moving from one state to the other, Texas or Florida or Idaho or moving out of the country or in Europe moving to different countries that they felt would be more free. People were starting to homeschool their kids to get them away from mandates. People were starting to grow their own food because of supply chain concerns, buying land. It was just a lot of action happening. And I thought it was a beautiful. beautiful silver lining to the whole, you know, crappy scenario. Unfortunately, though, in the last five years since then, it seems like, and last five years

since I went on tour, because I went in tour fall of 2021 at the height of all that stuff to really get out there and say, hey, guys, you know, if you're concerned, let's take action, let's do something that's move towards solutions, no matter what they do. And since that time, since the five years that I lasted on tour, it seems like a lot of people have kind of become complacent or sort of maybe they're awake and they're watching your podcast or my show or they're watching Jimmy door or this person or that person, but I see a lot of apathy as well or maybe a lack of action, complacency. And I'm not trying to judge anybody, but I definitely think it seems pretty common. Even I will say on the first leg of the tour, everybody I spoke to said,

oh, if this had been 2021, I think there'd be five more of my friends that would have showed up. But now they're kind of just content with watching podcast. And I think it's, in a way, it's become passive where people are like, look at me, I'm so awake, I'm so aware, but I'm just going to watch the world get worse through my laptop or through my phone and okay let me see what Ryan's up to what's what's James up to what's Wittney up to what's Derek up to and just you know that back and forth and I'm concerned about that so the tour in a big way is a kind of an effort to get back out in front of people light a fire under their bums again and say hey all these agendas are only advancing the digital IDs everything that you talk about every day that I report on these issues have not gone

away they're just not in the form of COVID anymore but they're they're still right here and we're getting closer and closer to their plans for 2030 and beyond. So it's kind of a call to action. It's also promoting what I call Liberation 2030, which I first actually wrote about this idea for T-Lab in an article I wrote years ago called Welcome to 2030. I own land, live amongst like-minded people and life is never better. I eventually turned that into a mini-documentary based on that essay.

And that's really what I'm talking about with this tour as well, as just encouraging people like, as much times you spend watching the podcast and paying attention to what they, them, those are doing, you need to be putting as much and more correctly, more energy into what you want for 2030, not just knowing what the so-called enemies of liberty and freedom are doing, but what are you actually trying to do for your family, for your coming generations and beyond? So, yeah, the tour is, I give a presentation, a brand new presentation about all those ideas, exit and build liberation 2030.

We're also really trying to make it interactive. So the first leg of the tour, I did this thing that I planned to do for the second one, which is basically after I give my thoughts, we really open it up into a community conversation because I think that's what's more important than ever. Yes, I have some ideas to share, but I don't want this to just be about me. I want people to have an opportunity to share their successes and their challenges. So people are saying, hey, I started growing food. We tried this thing. We're homeschooling our kids. We're doing this.

So we're hearing about steps people have done. And then people also share some of the areas they feel limited or they don't know what to do or they need to learn. more in and then it kind of becomes this group dialogue of sharing ideas together. And so the first leg of the tour, we had events as small as I think 15 people and that as big as 100 people. And they're all just an amazing experience. And you were part of that tour in 2021 when we did this at the height of COVID. And so I'm excited to come back to the Nashville area as well as all the other cities.

And yeah, just kind of see where people are at now. Try a lot of fire under them. We're going to be doing the presentation. There's going to be a community dialogue. I'm also sharing my music at the end of the evening. And then most of the cities, we are doing community action days where we're volunteering at community gardens or urban farms. Sometimes it's outreach. Like during COVID, we did an awesome march out in Franklin.

And that was great. And so it's different things. Sometimes it's feeding the homeless or helping out in that way or urban farms, community gardens. We did a beach cleanup in San Diego or it might be some type of activism, some sort of outreach. So that's all part of it. And yeah, the website is activationtour.org. And you can see the schedule link there for the next day. There's it'll take you to the place for the venue and everything.

All the events are free. Come out, meet some like-minded people. I'll have books for sale. I'll have shirts for sale. Ryan's going to be there. And then I'll say, mention another friend is going to be involved in Orlando, Justin with Wear Change out there who's just a really great activist,

constantly fighting on important issues. So we're going to be teaming up with different cool people along the way. And I'm excited, man. So thanks for giving me a moment to share about that. And I hope we see some people from the T-Lav audience. Come, come let me know if you're from T-Lav. and come get a free shirt on me. I'd love to meet Boy, the T-Lav family.

Nice, yeah, and I'm looking forward to it. I hope people come out as much as possible. I think it's actually an important sort of nexus in, for those I don't know, it's technically we're doing this in Franklin at the D&Gallery, but the greater Nashville area, well, I'll be hosting that part of it, where, you know, you have in Tennessee,

the kind of more of the mindset of, you know, leaving me to my life, you know, more freedom-minded, more, you know, plenty of pockets like that in the country. but it's also more, I guess, more Trump supporting in a lot of ways. As much as that's a whole thing we can even talk about where that seems to be floundering on its own right. But it's an important thing to have that kind of conversation here where you're not going to find

that solution through somebody in the power structure, we would argue, you know? So I'm looking forward to that. Hopefully, plenty of people come out to where we have people overflowing into the streets. I think that would be awesome. Yeah, it's going to be a good time. Yeah, looking forward to it. So let's actually start with one thing that I want on kind of on that note. you've been covering a lot about the, I guess, evolution of, well, let's just put it clearly,

like the evolution of the administration today or the government enlarge, but the failures of this administration. And we've, neither of us have covered this as it was only about Trump. But that's somebody that many see as the current sort of savior and same people saw with Biden or Obama. And we had to be critical of that, you know, and ultimately highlighted how in this administration it's been just one failure, one double cross after another. And I don't think that's even hard to see at this point. And I just wanted to kind of get you recap on that today versus January, you know, and start with a couple of quick points to just kick it off, one which I briefly pointed to. I don't know if you saw this, but the Trump administration has now approved three new

forever chemical P-FAS pesticides. Just, you know, not even try it anymore. Not surprised. Yeah, right? Your point about the fluoride where they're pushing back on the fluoride. We saw the food die reversal, plenty of these. You did the article about the lawsuit and the cruise. experiments on kittens that are underway on Trump and Kennedy's administration, you know, just kind of wild. So I wanted your thoughts on that where kind of from the moment we started today, you know, just, you know, any other thoughts, by the way, you want to add to that that they've double crossed, I guess. Yeah, so there's a few articles of mine I would point to, you might already have them pulled up, but that kind of touch on this. And it's been a theme that I've

touched on probably, I guess, the last year or a half since Trump's coming to office. specifically I'm talking about articles that are themed about Maha being betrayed or Maha sort of being, you know, a limited hangout, whatever you want to say. And I say that with the caveat that, yes, there were a lot of genuine activists who got into that movement because they genuinely do care about fluoride and vaccines and glyphosate and any number of issues. But I've tried to show that, yeah, like Maha bait and switch. So there's the one, the fluoride, which is obvious. And I believe I have an earlier article. I can't remember the title. But it's essentially a similar kind of thing.

about though when it comes to forever chemicals, talking to the pesticides. I've done articles, similar kind of concept about how big tech is winning under Trump. You can look at each of these big wireless, each of these different industries. And there's no difference from Obama or Bush before him in terms of the power that these lobbies have. And of course, the Zionist lobby, you know, when it comes to Maha specifically, I would say big wireless because people are concerned about the impacts of 5G and EMFs. And that accelerated under Trump's first administration. And now under the second administration, it's absolutely happening again to the point where

we've covered in articles about how the FCC under Brendan Carr, not only trying to censor people who are critical of Trump, like, you know, to say nothing that, you know, I'm not a big fan of Jimmy Kimmel, but still, it's clear what's going on right there, like the FCC under Trump and trying to go after his critics. They're also passing, or not passing, but they're pushing through. rules that are going to make it even more difficult for local governments and city councils and town councils to pass rules on how the 5G rollout and AI will rollout. Yeah, exactly. That's one of those articles there. So there's specifically making rules that say, like, you can't have local

city, municipal or state regulation on AI only comes from the feds. Like, so there's so many different areas that tie back into maha and health and concerns about these things where you see Trump betraying his people. And the Forever Chemicals thing, like I said, it's not surprising, unfortunately, because this is not the first time they've, I think I did, I don't think I did a full article, but I'm sure it's referenced in one of them, just making the point that of the few limited things we could say, whoever was puppeting Biden that they did, one of them was he did have a ban on Forever Chemicals, or at least some of them. And then Trump came into office and reversed them. So not only approving new ones, but reversing previous measures that were done

by Biden. And that's no credit to Biden or anything. It's just, just kind of how these people work. Certain administrations will try to do good things on the way out, and then oftentimes those good things, which we might be like, hey, that was actually a positive mood. Biden did that on the way out. Then the next administration comes in and undoes it. And they're like, oh, no, I tried, but look, the other side did something about it.

I tend to think it's theater, but you see those kind of things happening back and forth. So overall, I mean, and it's interesting you're asking about this, because I've been sort of reflecting on this, that I think I, this is all so common and knowledge to me, and I feel like to a lot of people who follow us and keep up with our work. But then sometimes, you know, in the wilds of the internet, we interact with other people. And you're like, wait, a lot of people are still buying this. Like I see, for example, I recently shared a post from David Ike with my own comments. And it was about Tucker Carlson or anybody else talking about starting a third party, right?

And just sort of putting new energy into the system. And when I saw that, I saw a mix of different responses. Some of it was people who had voted for Trump won two or three times and now finally are questioning him, but are still ready to just fall for the next group of people that are promising to, you know, promising the moon to them. And then other people who were angry about this kind of post because they were hardcore Trump supporters and figured those people, Tucker Carlson's MTG, etc. Those are all traders. And I was just like, well, the point of bringing this up is like it still blows my mind, but there are still many people who are dedicated to Trump. and anything that I or you or others say, including with documented factual sources,

and their minds, we're just, we might as well be an anti-fell member. Like, we're just some left-wing crazy. We just have Trump derangement syndrome, this sort of thing, even though we have fact after fact after fact. And I will point you to one other article that I wrote for TLAV at the end of Trump's last administration, which is still one of my favorite ones, and it's one I pull out pretty constantly when people try to tell me this narrative that Trump changed. No, Trump didn't change.

She was always the same thing. That's another thing that I'm hearing now is people who are waking up saying, okay, Trump changed now that he's bombing and all the stuff that we're seeing in this administration. But he did really lose the election, and they did really target him. And his first administration was just great. And my article's called, Here Are 18 Ways Trump served the Swamp or something like that. And that was just me making a list on his final day in office of some of the things I found. And you're going to find the influence of big oil, big wireless and all these different things and the forever chemicals and stuff. So people say he changed supporting the FISA courts,

even though he claims the FISA courts were coming after in him and called the FISA courts rightfully deep state because they are secret courts with secret judges where we don't know anything about it. And then he approves FISA every year since he's been in office, right? I mean, it's these kinds of things. And criticizes Democrats, and here's the exact point you were just making. I don't believe Democrats, they've been using it, right?

So they don't care to stop it now, but now that they're not in position of power, now they act like they want to stop it. and then Trump calls them bad and Trump's administration for trying to stop it. Like they're un-American supporting of terrorism. You know, this is something we keep talking about on, you know, this platform and just independent media. Like, you don't miss that.

It does, there's people that will choose to. There are people that might just be too dumb to see it, but the majority people don't miss that. They, you, you're, you're telling them the opposite of what you just said. So people are just becoming aware of this. You know, my opinion would be that what you pointed there is a minority, a growing, a, a shrinking minority of people. that still choose for whatever reason to ignore their own self-interest and support the team. I just, I'm, I could be wrong, but I think that's pretty clear right now.

And I'm very happy to see. I hope so. And that's kind of why this point is important, because, you know, one, you were correct, as worth noting, regarding our value to people out there being ahead of the story, but also just that it's becoming something that is now being pointed to to justify the next step. And usual the point lately is, well, let's try to do something about these things before it's retro like reactive. You know, like somebody I was talking to Zoe today about the idea of the data centers.

Well, if we would have pushed back when they were installing 5G, we might not even be in this position, you know? So let's start thinking about how we do it now instead of waiting for Alex Jones and Eric howardy to shove it down your throat is breaking news when it's far too late to actually stop because that's what keeps happening, you know? And I'll leave it with this one last point just in what out like last thought on this little segment is about this recent sort of like resurgence of the communism bad, you Antifa Patriot Front sort of theatrics of it all.

I honestly don't think it's really gaining traction. But just any thoughts on that with this? I framed it as just fake Patriot, fake Patriot. Is that a real image? No, no, it's just created, you know? Okay, I was like that. I was like, has that happened already? Because that looks, but I don't think we're that far off from that, right?

Yeah, no, I've saw that the Patriot Front popped back up recently, right? And of course, Antifa, you know, it's, yeah, I mean, we've talked about this for years that There's a couple of things that come to mind. First, you have the engineered division, as you call it, they're trying to pit more extreme people on each side against each other and then have it seem like those extremes speak for everybody, right? And like as if the average person really would side with either of them, whether left or right, most people aren't on those extremes. But you have those extremes try to stoke and create more division amongst the people, which has been effective in the past. And I'm hoping it won't be as effective because right now it does seem like there's some unity around flock. around data centers. There's definitely seems like they're starting to emerge some of that. So I'm worried about that. But the other thing I would say is that one thing that also worries me is

the way the Trump administration as part of that division and his talk of like communism is the greatest threat, this and that is using these, you know, anti-terror laws now turning them into domestic terror laws against so-called anti-Fo members. You know, I have been researching this whole thing about this alleged antifa cell in Texas. And I'm not sure if you've covered it, but these this group of people that collectively got like 300 years. Yeah, and then the main guy got like 90 years. And it's literally some people who were charged with moving a zine, you know, a little magazine about anarchism from one person's house to another or something

like that. And they said they were trying to hide evidence. There's the more you look into that, there's all kinds of weird things. And I'm not trying to say I would agree with them on everything or anything. But absolutely that story is not what the mainstream is representative as what right wing, right wing media and Trump media is representing it as if like they took down an antiface cell. And I think that's a dangerous precedent that's being set. And because, unfortunately, some of that division is working in some sectors of society, there are those who are willing

to turn a blind eye to that, just like they did during the war of terror internationally. And now that it's happening on the home front, some people are like, well, you know, they shouldn't have been up there. They shouldn't have protested ice or what have you. And so that does worry me as well. It does. And, you know, this comes down to, you know, if people commit a crime, then charging for that crime. The idea that the ideology, I mean, this is the trap that every government's been created. on any side. You know, you may agree, look, I speak for myself. I think we agree. I think government is a problem no matter what form it takes. That's an easy thing. This is what we've stood on for a very

long time. I don't think communism is a good thing. It doesn't mean that I can tell people not to believe in it or think about it or see it as a different counterbalance to where we are today. The point is we're supposed to pretend that we have freedom of ideology for them to come out and shout people down for having ideas or worse, charge them for crimes based on the idea that the ideology guided something that would otherwise be a much more minor, if even a crime at all is insane. It is what we all all fighting. It's what Republicans were fighting against Democrats. You know, it's like this same. It just never stops coming. By the way, funny enough, now it makes sense. Magazines. I was talking about that on the show going design zines and now it makes

sense. Yeah. Yeah. New things. But particularly I would say with that, they're usually small, like, because these were left-wing activists and it's, seen culture is pretty common and like left-wing anarchist act, you know, culture. And so people just make small little, usually handwritten, hand-drawn, copied and pasted, you know, with info. That's literally what it was. It's just a small magazine with info about this. And, you know, just real quick, one point is that this whole thing is coming from Trump's executive order that started criminalizing this stuff. And you go back to the executive order, he said anarchists. And he didn't say what type of anarchists. And there's many of us who have identified by that label or volunteers. It wouldn't be hard

to stretch that. He said anti-capitalist, which I think there's people who probably would consider them anti-capitalist across the perspective, you know, across the spectrum. whether you agree with them or not, anti-American, which obviously could be stretched to any kind of way, anti-Christian, like those are like the things that they said they're going after. Anti-capolis, anti-Christian, anti-American. I mean, it's not that hard to see

how those definitions can be used and thrown about and different people targeted. They're just ideas, you know? Like that's the point of making is it's like, when did it become illegal to have a thought? You know, it's like this is exactly what we've always been thought, police. We've been talking about this a long time, but it's just so clear that neither side is unique in this.

It's just about the same thing. But yeah, that point is insane. And the idea of, you know, I have a sneaking suspicion of the person who actually ultimately fired that shot is going to somehow not old. I don't know. I just got the whole thing I've been suspicious up in the beginning. I immediately called out how Cass tried to warp them all into one group, even though you could prove that I think only one or two of them even know the guy that took the shot.

The rest of them aren't even involved with them. Like they're just present. Yeah. Yeah. They were just there on the site. Yeah. And getting 100 years, 50 years, 30 years. I mean, look at what like people like, you know, comparing it's like,

like Maxwell or other, it's just, it's insane, you know. But anyway, I want to overlap this for, with the point of the flock cameras, the license plate lead, right license plate reader discussion and the overlap of January 6th. Because I think it's important about how this is being, you know, abused, all of this. And how it's being used against us. Our rights are being undermined. In this case, you have like what kind of this larping administration that seems to be going after somebody who does not appear to be guilty.

And even Thomas Massey is calling this out saying, a travesty of justice that this autistic suspect, not new, but in that regard, by the way, we'll be behind bars for over a year without trial, just so Cash Patel can say he solved the case and hoped to extract a plea deal, and which will probably happen by threatening 100 years in prison. And it's a criminal, and it's criminal that the real instigators are still roaming free after six years. I bring this up because it turns out that the way they got him, an affidavit states, the FBI also connected Cole to the incident through cell phone tower data. they also used a license plate reader to place coal in the area around the time as pipe bombs were placed.

Quote, was observed driving past a license plate reader at the South Capitol Street exit in Interstate 395 South, which is less than one half mile from the location where the individual placed the devices was observed on foot. For all of the reasons stated above, there's probable cause that, yeah, and this is where we go, right? And so not to get into this story in depth, if you want more of it, we've covered this in the past. It's also, you know, Massey's been really breaking it down. The point of bringing it up today is that, in my opinion, is not the right person. And Massey's been using other things to call this out as well.

And yet it turns out that it's just being forced in. Now, it's kind of two stories, right? The idea of the abuse of justice to just get a win, but also the very rationalization of the use of these license plate readers. So I want your thoughts on that. And then I have a couple of clips we can play about that. And then we can get into the next part. Yeah, you know, the license plate readers, a couple of things.

I'll say that I'm glad more and more people are paying attention to them and talking about them. And what you just showed there is one way that they can be used. Some would say effectively, you know, those that maybe have more of a general kind of mainstream view and trust the government would say, well, that's exactly why I want them. I want them there to catch bad guys. And yeah, they can be used to do that. And they also can be used to contribute to the other tools that exist, facial recognition, et cetera, that are creating the surveillance state that many of us are fighting. And I think that's the big concern.

I mean, I've been reporting on automatic license plate readers since 2014. I think that they've caught on now largely because I think partially just because flock is an easy name to remember. One of the other biggest companies is called Vigilant Solutions. They've been doing this for a long time. And I remember even back in 2015 when I was writing about this, they were talking about the concerns of this is that what cops can do when they're using automatic license plate readers. Because there's ones like Flock that are placed on cameras, but there's also some that cops can have in their car as well. and they can just literally scan license plates as they're driving around. And they can create hot lists, what are known as hot lists.

So let's say they did have the license plate of a suspect they're looking for, and they knew they were in a specific area of town and they were patrolling that. They could add that license plate to a hot list. Or let's say they knew that there was three or four license plates that they were looking for related to a crime. They put those on a hot list, and then basically it alerts them if one of them is in a specific area. And there's already documented examples. This was a decade ago, so I'm sure there's more.

of cops using those hot lists to like stalk their girlfriends, use it, you know, to kind of do a legal activity on the side. And so those hot lists can be abused in different ways. And so yeah, I just want to say that, that I think that this concern has been around. I'm glad that there's more of a concern. The automatic license plate readers have been around for a decade plus. So it's good to see people pushing back.

And they're clearly something that can be abused. And they're also something that is increasingly, people are unhappy with, you know, I, I just want to mention that just in the last couple of days since I got back to Houston, starting on July 4th, somebody cut down a flock tower, like one of the cameras in Houston, stuffed an American flag in it and spray painted it. And that made the news. And, you know, I'll tell you that on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, the news accounts, 98% of the comments were supportive. And I checked through them, and a good chunk of them are actually people who live in Houston. Some are from all over the internet, of course,

but there's less than a handful of comments saying, like, oh, this person shouldn't have done that, they should be held accountable, go to jail. And then just yesterday, it was reported that two more flock cameras were cut down. So I'm not encouraging or condoning that activity, you know, keep yourself out of trouble. But it's a sign of how sick people are getting of this and that people are not feeling heard because, for example, in Houston back in May in Harris County, which is the county that Houston's in, the Harris County Commissioner's court, they actually just, despite public resistance and opposition and protests and emails and phone calls and the whole thing, they voted to extend the flock contract for a year.

Well, two months later, people are cutting them down. Right. Well, and look, and see, this is an important point for me. It's not a crime to say something should happen. I don't care what kind of nonsense we get into. They may very well try to charge somebody for that. In fact, I see that coming. Oh, I'm sure they will.

Yeah. Whether it's one of our friends online who are doing great work calling this stuff out, I absolutely advocate for somebody to take action against something that's violating our rights. Absolutely. And I'm not, but at the same time, I'm not going to be a person who, you know, puts, I don't want to put someone in a position to ultimately, you know, go to prison, for example. It's a simple point for taxes. I don't believe we should be paying taxes. And I can, I should say, I can say that out loud, but know that if you choose not to, they'll probably show up with a gun at your door, you know. So it's just,

it's a thing to think about. But, you know, we're at a point where this, like, I almost don't know if I like that it's being framed as sort of like a new revolution. You know, it feels kind of almost like a trap. But, you know, there's all these clips for the Patriot, you know, aim small, miss small, you know, like behind the tree with the, you know, the flock camera. You know, talking about those memes are going around. And it's just, it's people that are trying to argue this is sort of like our Boston Tea Party. You know, it's like, you know, maybe it is.

Maybe this is the line for Americans. And I wholeheartedly support that. But I just want people to be cautious about it, too, that we're not being, you know, kind of ushered into some kind of trap that will be used against us, you know. But, yeah, I think this is a very important. Absolutely. And I think it's getting a lot of traction and it's going to be called anti-American.

I'm even, I think I might have pulled it up real quick. I'm going to show you this clip. But yeah, this is funny to me. I keep seeing these guys, the ones that I'm always calling out because they're just like cut out, cardboard cutouts, but basically comes out and says,

and like that Matt Vol guy or whatever, where these guys just love to just scream commentary about, well, great, Trump did the best thing ever. But these things, they're like, just in, this thing happened. They put a flag on it. It's here. And a quote.

And I'm like, okay. I said, tell us why you, what do you think about this, Eric? It's odd that you guys all keep leaving out the commentary that you always include when covering this topic. And here's what I think. I think it's because that the vast majority of Americans agree with this and that the establishment team that they gaslight for does not. So they want you to be like, yeah, the point to the thing, but they don't say bad or good. Watch as this becomes more momentum behind it. I think these people will come out and ultimately start to say, you know, well, we should not do things that are illegal and, you know, like take that line.

but these people don't support this or support, you know, Americans acting for their rights. This is a clip that another one of the examples that I had this on the screen for the podcast, Milwaukee police detective charged with misusing flock surveillance cameras, one of a zillion things we could point to. Here is a post that was going around about a woman who got a ticket by one of these flock cameras because she had her phone face down in her lap and, you know, public safety. And it's like, well, so you could have it in like a holder, you know, or whatever. like this is just an abuse of this and this is about keeping people in check you know and i'll also

include the point about the uh the signal trace reader aspect of this that i'm sure you've covered we covered in this show you are a terrorist if you resist data centers basically where they can clip this device on there that's made from a company called leonardo where it just it'll scoop up text messages wifi information you know insanely invasive has multiple contracts with Israeli government, you know, stacked the hilt with Israeli intelligence. You had 200. It's all over the place. So I think that's an important thing. And I'll include this article as well with people pushing back against this stuff. But yeah, I mean, I think this right now is a massively evolving story.

And I'm very glad to see people pushing back. Yeah. I just sent you two links. If you don't mind showing those. One is a military link. And then the other is a Facebook link. The Facebook one is related to what we were saying a moment ago that I saw. I think it's a Virginia dude. He was sentenced to a year. in jail for block, you know, activism, let's say. So just to be aware of like that they are track. And yeah, in terms of Houston where I'm at, that one is interesting right there. Air Force engineer cut down 13 police cameras saying that they're unconstitutional. He's facing 25 charges.

So, you know, that's the thing is they are definitely going to try to make an example, I think, of people. And I hope that the person in Houston doesn't get caught. During notification. This is. Yeah, exactly. Stand up, guys. This is where you stand up. And if that, and if the comments or any sign of like what I hope so I kind of had mixed feelings I was sharing this with a friend of saying like on the internet it's easy for everybody to be a tough guy but yeah take them down I'm so proud of this person that you know not all heroes wear capes all this kind of stuff right it's like the bunch of comments from all across the country and then as I said lots of people in the Houston area

tiny tiny minority saying that they think this person should be held accountable I hope though that when time comes those people will step up because I've said for years that I don't as much as that sort of brings me a little bit of reassurance and like, oh my God, this is awesome because it's a lot better than looking online and seeing a bunch of obedient people like, how dare they? You know, it would suck to be the opposite. But where are those people? Why are they not taking action? You know what I mean?

It's like, this is kind of the reason I'm doing the tour. It's like, look, you can be awake and people can be like, aha, I'm going to make a silly comment on the internet and social media, but are they paying attention any other time? Or are they just kind of making a comment and passing on by? Are they like because for example all the people in Houston who are making comments now and saying oh this guy is awesome I'm glad he did it They could have called or emailed or showed up to the county Commissioner court in May and maybe actually stopped it But there wasn't a lot of action around that and as you know I'm not one saying like we need to vote as the answer But I'm just saying in terms of getting involved locally

If you had that same energy with people all excited and posting memes on comments about flock cameras getting cut down And that turned into some type of real world action in the community, that maybe the cameras wouldn't be there, right? Instead, it's just like, so I worry that although that looks kind of like a sign of public support, and hopefully that would translate over into jury nullification if this person or person are ever caught, that they, and they face charges that the people say, hey, no, we're not. Because if I was this person seeing those comments and I did get arrested, I would definitely go for a local jury trial because it looks like most of the people on your side. And I hope that if it does come to that,

that what we're seeing in the comments actually translates into that type of sentiment for nullifying these kind of charges. I agree. And I, you know, it's worth noting, though, that it's not everybody has the ability or the desire to go out and be the one, you know, effectively being the, the revolutionary, the rebel, you know, like, and it's for each person to decide. You know, it depends on whether or not you think that action will lead to positive change the way you see it, wanting it to be done. Maybe not everybody believes in going out and taking that you know, physical action to take it down, you know? I think it's a choice for everybody. But so my point, your point is not everybody has to do that. The point is, do you stand up for that

when the time comes? Do you go there and stand up for that person? Do you continue to protest? Do you call your local people if you think that makes a difference? Do you, you know, speak out publicly about jury notification to make sure that person doesn't go to jail for the thing that you believe should have happened, you know, that's absolutely the case. You know, I advocate for all of it publicly. And I've said this more than once. I think it's important that people take action that is against. something that is unconstitutional because your government doesn't care. But always make sure that the understanding is that there's a line that will be crossed that they will try to go after you for.

And they very well may be doing that against us right now for even speaking about this. You know? Oh, absolutely. I wouldn't be surprised if, like, particularly in the Houston situation, just based on everything I know and we know how law enforcement, they have social media monitoring tools that they could be just gathering information or at least making a list. the people who are saying the most supportive things like, you know, hey, good, let's do more or, you know, something like that. And they could be making their own profiles of people who might be able

to support this. But I also hope they're taking note of like, hmm, this does, doesn't, this person seems to be getting a lot of sympathy from the people. These actions, the people seem to be very sympathetic of. So we'll see where it goes. But I do take it as a sign. And I know you're showing that article in Mexico, the one I recently wrote, and I won't get all deep into it. But I mean, just as another example of pushback you know pushback happens in a lot of different ways in this case it wasn't protest in the street it wasn't um you know any other type of legal or judicial resistance it well there was lawsuits that some people were filing for themselves but by in large mexico's phone registration program which was supposed to start july first just a week ago uh it failed at least

that current implementation largely because people just chose to drag their feet and chose to take their time and to not immediately comply. Now, if people had just complied because the government saying, hey, by this date, we're going to cut your phone line off, and the people who just rush out and immediately go, okay, hurry, we'll comply, whatever you say, then it happens. But if the people say, maybe I'll wait to the last minute, maybe I'm not going to do it all because there is a lot of mistrust in Mexico for a government,

then you get to the point where it was here, where you had more than half the country, and some would say up to two-thirds of the country, not complying to the point that the government had to delay their deadline of July, first and now they're trying some silly kind of staggered approach, which some people think might be used as a way to kind of break up the groups more individually. And now it says if your number ends with the zero, your deadline is August 15th. If it's a number one, your deadline's August 31st. So they've got it staggered now throughout the end of the year. And some people believe this is a way

to sort of target those individual groups, which still make up millions of people and say, okay, let's see if the zeros comply first. And then if they do it, then we can push everybody else to do it. but I don't think that that's what the case is going to be, and I'm going to continue to follow that, but I think it's a great sign to see. And especially for other places, I know all countries are different, but to see what is possible

if people don't just immediately jump when they say jump. Yeah, I think it's, everyone can take a note from it. You know, it's clear that enough resistance does have an effect, you know. But think about the comparison of this, like as the U.S. government is, you know, murdering boats full of people because they argue there's a justification or murdering families overseas or bombing civilian locations, threatening to attack civilian infrastructure,

assassinating a religious leader of an entire culture. But yeah, let's not saw down a post because, well, it's a, I mean, think about the insane contradiction to all of that. All of the times our governments or even within our society, like left and right political dynamics where we rationalize some kind of action of violence because of X, Y, and Z. but not when it's a fundamentally illegal thing that objectively violate your constitutional rights that's being done by a tyrannical government.

You know, it's like, it's crazy that we even stand back and go, well, we should, you know, it's like, I just think it's wild, man. I'm glad that this is happening. And I'm glad enough people seem to care enough to actually take a stance against this because it is, I do find it to be an important moment. Absolutely. Let's talk about something that is a very important follow up that you've been covering. I mean, when did you start discussing the Utah show?

County ritualistic abuse discussion. And this is the follow-up to that all the way past it. And, you know, with David Leave it. I think the first article was probably late May 2022. So you've been covering a long time. And this is something that has gotten some pretty good attention. But yet it seems that ultimately one of the main people is not being held accountable and is sort of like revamped his identity through like the current social media dynamic.

So let's get into that a little bit. Go ahead. Yeah, absolutely. So just real quick recap for those who have not seen our many previous reports on it, but there was an investigation announced in May 22 by the Utah County Sheriff's Office where they said they were investigating cases of ritualistic child sexual abuse. That was their phrase between the dates of 1990 to about 2010 and several counties in Utah. And the day after that investigation happened, at that time, Utah County attorney,

a man named David Levitt, who's a part of the powerful Levitt family, his father, Dixie Levitt, was a former Utah representative and owns this major insurance brokerage firm. His brother, Mike Levitt, was governor of Utah, also worked in the Bush administration. And they're all members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the LDS, or the Mormon Church. And so the day after the press, after the investigations announced, this man, David Levitt on the screen here, he holds a press conference out of the blue completely unprompted nobody had been named as a suspect least of all him but he held a press conference with the local utah media where he gave out a 151 page victim statement um and said this investigation by the sheriffs is politically motivated and me and my wife are not cannibals we're not rapists we're not murderers those were his words just out of the blue and everybody's like we didn't say you were you know where did we're Where is this coming from? And basically he said that the sheriff's investigation, he believed it was eventually going to focus on him and that it was all being politically motivated because he was under election at that time.

He ends up losing the election a couple weeks later. He says it was because of misinformation. And then he kind of goes on with his life. Meanwhile, the sheriff's investigation into ritualistic abuse did eventually arrest a different man named David Hamlin, which we've covered on this show. And I'll just briefly say about that. David Hamlin was arrested. He was charged for a couple of years. The case dragged on and then eventually him and his ex-wife were both, the charges against them were both dismissed with prejudice, which means they cannot come back up and not because he was found guilty or found not guilty,

but because of a bunch of different procedural stuff that happened, basically different accusations of corruption from the sheriff's office to the prosecutor, people saying that evidence wasn't being shared and things were being slow walked. And unfortunately, for the second time in a decade, that man, David Lee Hamblin was let go after being accused of ritualistic abuse, including admitting to raping his own daughter, which is on audio recording where he himself says, I'm sorry for raping you. And so that investigation kind of continued on and just as far as we know is over. But what's relevant now in this update that I just did was I spoke with a Homeland Security Investigations analyst. And Homeland Security.

security, HSI, is part of the federal government. Specifically, they're under ice, and they deal with trafficking investigations. That's like their main role. And so this analyst was an analyst with HSI, and he was part of the investigation looking into David Levitt. And so we sort of knew about him prior to this. I mentioned him in my reporting that in the course of this investigation into ritualistic abuse, when David Levitt inserted his foot into his mouth. And he was never named a suspect even after the press conference when he gave this weird press conference. But what we did find out was that he was also under investigation separately for an adoption that he did in 2016, which was being considered to be potentially child trafficking.

And at the very least, an illegal and improper adoption when he violated the Indian Child Welfare Act or what's known as ICWA, which is meant to keep native children with native families. And so we kind of knew about that. I'd reported on that in the past that David Levitt had been suspected or there was some kind of potential case of human trafficking going on. And there was a whistleblower, this analyst who tried to speak up about it. And then as far as we knew, the case got shut down. And that's all that we ever heard about it.

So I had reported everything I just shared, I'd previously reported it on T-Lev. But about a year ago, I put out a video saying, help me find this whistleblower. And I, because I started to try to track him down, his email address, his phone number. I couldn't get in touch with him. I found him at a few different organizations. I found him speaking about his story on one podcast that had been taken down later. And so I did my own video just saying, hey, help me find this Utah whistleblower back in 2025.

And then, lo and behold, about two months ago, he reached out to me and, you know, said, hey, here I am. And decided he was willing to speak more with me about this whole situation. So everything he shared with me is what went into this new report. And what he shared is that there was absolutely a cover-up of the investigation into David Levitt relating both to the adoption and that David Levitt had been under investigation related to the ritualistic sex abuse case as well. So that's probably why he gave this press conference. Now, to kind of put a timeline on it, what I was told by the analyst was that in 2016, they had begun investigating David Levitt. So this is six years before the sheriff's investigations announced in May 22. He's apparently already an investigation by the federal government relating to some of the stuff from David Hamlin, specifically the ritualistic sex abuse stuff.

That is also around the time where this little girl is born, this native girl, that year. The analyst came in in 2019. And so he said by that point, they'd already been investigating David Levitt for a couple years. And David Levitt does the adoption in 2017. David Levitt reportedly, and this is several different sources have said this, that David Levitt was like bragging about adopting this Native American girl at like dinners, you know, at fancy dinners, gala dinners, whatever, just like, oh, I got a new baby. And you'll never believe how I did it and telling this whole story.

And so he had started to tell this story and word got around. Word got around to another journalist. Her name's Amy Hurdy. She's a documentary filmmaker and somebody told her about this. And so she got the idea to interview David Levitt about a totally. related topic and sort of, I guess, had a plan to see if she could coax him into talking about it. And it didn't take long, she said, for him to start getting all, you know, excited talking about it. And so she kept the camera rolling and the audio rolling.

And they were able to record him just detailing the story, how he used his connections in Ukraine because he's got also an organization called the International Levitt Group or the Levit International Group, something like that, that has business in Ukraine. And there has always been these rumors or suspicions that there might also be trafficking stuff happening related to. that. But nevertheless, what we do know is David Levitt said he was good friends with one of the ex-presidents of Ukraine and he started to tell the Northern Cheyenne tribe, the chief in Montana, that if he helped David Levitt get this adoption done, I can sell some of your Buffalo to the Ukrainians and you guys can make some money and, you know, I could just help broker this deal. So he's bragging about this story. He's like, yeah, you'll never believe it. They told me there was no way I could make this happen. But then before you know it, I was able to tell them,

I'll do this thing and quid pro quo and blah, blah. And then there's all. also rumors that the chief of the Northern Cheyenne, his name's Jace, kills back, that he took money from David Levitt to do this as well. And at the end of the day, basically, the adoption was allowed to happen. And just I want to say really briefly, the mother of the child, she was struggling with drug addiction, alcohol addiction, and had been arrested. And so the baby had been held by the Bureau of Indian Affairs. But the grandmother, the uncle, and the father all wanted to take the baby and to keep her. But David Levitt was able to get the mother to basically give up her parental rights

and then to use his connections to make the adoption, this illegal adoption happen. And yeah, and so that he tells this story. It goes into this interview. Amy Herdy turns that into the government and eventually it makes it to the way of, to the desk of the Homeland Security Investigations, Analyst and the special agent he was working with. And they're like, oh my God, David Levitt's literally admitting to, trafficking a child, you know, buying a child and doing this whole thing. And so that was a real investigation going on.

And so in the background, years before the sheriff's office announces this investigation May 22, David Levitt had actually been under investigation related to both the charges of ritualistic abuse, which were from the Hamlin case back in 2012 and 14, where he is listed with his wife as being a part of a cult in Utah area involving dozens and dozens of people who also are members of the LDS committing some horrible, allegedly committing some horrible acts. So there's that stuff going on, which was being investigated by the feds and this illegal adoption thing, which was being investigated by the feds. And so the analyst and his partner thought, like, they had a case here.

Like, there's something, you know, we got, we got something. Not only that, you know, they're sending memos. He described to me that, you know, they're typing up memos, sending it to the assistant special agent in charge, sending it to their supervisor, and they could tell that they were being ignored, that it wasn't really being read. And eventually, though, he said that the supervisor, or the, excuse me, the special agent he was working with, had a brilliant idea, according to him. And the brilliant idea was to subpoena the Mormon hotline, the LDS hotline, because the Mormon church, they have a 1-800 hotline because they've had to acknowledge that abuse has taken place in the church over the years. and so one of their ways of saying they do something about that is that you can call the 1-800 and report if you've been abused by a bishop or some other member of the church and they'll help you and they'll guide you and things like that.

But it's long been suspected that this is one of the ways that they actually cover up these cases. The 1-800 number, it is connected to the law firm that represents them, Curtin McConkey, which is really powerful law firm and has helped them settle different lawsuits. And so the supervisor, the special agent said, why don't we subpoena that hotline? And that way we can look to see if any of our alleged victims or suspects are listed in there. Maybe some of the other people who've called there have reported these people too. Maybe some of our victims have been mentioned, you know, something like that. He's like, let's just subpoena that and we'll get all kinds of information. And so the analysts thought it was a brilliant idea.

They took it to the, you know, their supervisors, their superiors. And he said that's when everything all hell broke loose. and basically that's kind of what set them off. And so they sent the one special agent, shipped them off to a different city, different state altogether. The analyst was basically being told, like, this isn't going anywhere. He describes another incident where he's sitting, he's coming to visit with one of his supervisors, and there's a guy, one of them sitting at the desk, there's another guy standing next to him.

And sort of the way he described it to me, it just sounds like a Hollywood or TV show, the kind of things we've seen, the type of corruption that, you know, we think is fictionalized and movies and TV shows, but is based on. real life events as well where you know he said there's a stack of papers on the on the guy's desk all related to david hamlin david levitt and he's telling him he's like you know why why are you guys not investigating this i've sent you memos we sent you all this information we've got an admission of guilt from hamblin we've got this stuff we've got david levitt admitting this uh why are why is not being investigated and that the guy just kind of sat back you know with his arms crossed

was like you know i don't know why and he asked the other guy what do you think bob do you have any idea why this isn't going anywhere? Just like they're just kind of mocking him or playing with him, you know, and it's just getting the message across like, this isn't going anywhere. And I think I respond. No, I don't. He's like, no, I don't have any idea why this isn't going anywhere. And so, yeah, they basically, he didn't want to shut up and they destroyed his career after that. He filed the whistleblower complaint because he felt like they weren't doing a good job. And then after that, they started going through his phone, his eye cloud, all his stuff and tried to make his life living hell, tried to find anything to arrest him. They couldn't, so they just drove him out of

there. And yeah, and so his career was ruined. And David Levitt, meanwhile, got to move to Scotland with his wife, who's also accused of things. And they bought a castle for a couple million U.S. And now they've got 1.4 million followers on Instagram and 700,000 on Facebook and so on and so forth. And they have been able to remake themselves. And it sickens me, really, honestly, to see this kind of thing happening. But yeah, that's why whenever the analyst reached out to me, I was really excited because I hadn't forgot about this story. I just kind of felt like I had hit a dead end for a while.

That's sort of what can happen in these kind of stories. You dig in, you find a certain lead, you pull a thread, and it might not lead anywhere, or you might have some sources if you can find them, you know, and in this case, I couldn't find him, but eventually he found me. So there is going to be more to this, I will say, because as you know, Ryan, whenever we started talking about this case, particularly the original case, This is when we started getting VHS tapes sent to us from people out there in the audience who know things and who've seen things, particularly in Utah. And so you can go through on the T-Lav website and you can find my whole series of articles not only with the David Hamlin, David Levitt story, but looking into the history of ritual abuse in Utah, the history of ritual abuse in the Mormon church.

And there's definitely a thread there. And then that led to other things like the justice delayed investigation, looking into Gordon B. thinking in to Kate's story of, you know, how she knew David Hamblin and her, her abuse. And so there are already a good amount of people reaching out to me, man. I can say for sure I'm going to have another investigation coming out soon about the Mormon 1-800 hotline. And with documentation, some of that information is starting to come out now. I've been speaking with Gary Valenzuela, who is the father of this young girl that was adopted. he and his mom are starting to speak out now.

They weren't speaking out a couple years ago. They were kind of basically told by the cops that they should shut up and, you know, let justice run its course. But now they realize they were being, you know, ignored and screwed over. And they see what David Levitt is doing. So they're starting to speak out publicly. I was just on a channel, you know, called We Are the People, Utah. Like, this is definitely an issue that people in the Mormon community in Utah are not ready

to let go of. And so my invitation to anybody out there, if you, you are on Instagram, if you are on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, go to at Knock Dairy Castle. And I'm not saying, threaten anybody by any means, just kindly, directly ask them, why did you leave Utah? What happened with this investigation? What's up with this adoption? Linked to our article. They are definitely actively blocking people. They've blocked me now over the last week or so. And they also seem to be running a PR campaign. In the last week before, you know, since I released this investigation and before it, when I had another friend of mine who's got a couple

100,000 followers on Instagram do a video about them, and we started flooding the comments there. They've had two puff pieces, you know, favorable, favorable profiles from Utah media and Scottish media. One came in Utah, like Utah about a week ago and a half ago saying, oh, this local Utah couple moved to Scotland and bought a castle and just totally ignoring, you know, what's actually going on. And then most recently, I don't even know if I shared this one with you, but on, I think it was this Sunday that just passed. The Sunday Times in the UK, which also has a Scotland division, of course, they wrote a total fluff piece on the Levits and basically said that they were victims. They said that they were victims of trolls. Here,

I'm going to send you this link of, they're victims of trolls on the internet who are just, you know, attacking them and making them look bad. You know, it's really just sickens me because It kind of goes into a whole other part of this story that I never included in my articles. And I know I've talked to you about it. But the reason I didn't include it, here let me say I can find you this article. The reason I didn't include it is because I felt like it was kind of a distraction. And now I can see even more that it was a distraction. But the Levits are using it in their favor.

I'll just kind of briefly mention it real quick. Basically, there was this guy who was accused of rape in Utah. and may have been guilty. I don't know. That's what the signs point to. But he says that he was falsely accused of rape. He faked his death and then went to Scotland and was and kind of remade himself during COVID and changed his name and said he was somebody else. And people started to suspect that he was, you know, his name is Nicholas Rossi, but he was going under a different name, Arthur Knight. And, you know, Arthur Knight was like, oh, I'm Scottish. I don't know who that guy is. I had nothing to do with him. Eventually, they basically became convinced that he, you know, that he,

that he was the same guy and they extradited him back to Utah. This just happened over the last year and he was sentenced to rape charges and coincidentally he died in prison just like about a month ago. So this guy, Nicholas Rossi here, here's the article, I'm sent it to you. You can at least show the headline. He was accused of being the one who leaked these documents about David Levitt, which he was not the source for them. These are in police records, right?

but you'll see the way the Sunday Times frames that article, see Nicholas Rossi prosecutor, which is David Levitt. I was his victim, but I pitied him. And basically, this whole article is about David Levitt saying, this crazy guy, Nicholas Rossi, who was an accused rapist, he said that me and my wife were cannibals and criminals. He made the whole thing up. And, you know, despite that, I wish I could have gone to meet him and see him. It's just Levitt playing this. Oh, such a good guy, this and that. But never does that article mention that the source of those documents, was the 2012 investigation against David Hamlin, and that David Hamlin's own daughters accused him of raping him,

and that those 151-page documents, which are detailed statements about alleged abuse, that that's where David Levitt's name is mentioned. Instead, it's like, oh, no, no, some internet troll, who, by the way, also happens to be a rapist, that's the source for these claims against David Levitt. So don't pay any attention to it. And they literally say he's a victim of trolls on the internet, this and that.

And so the fact that these articles are coming, me out right now as we're putting more pressure on him i don't think is um is is is by coincidence i agree i mean it's what the comparison that comes to mind is when brook jackson came out with her massive kind of you know bombshell whistleblowing story about vintavia and w and biser and before we were the first interviewer about that before the actual interview she did the the article through british medical journal, one of the most well-respected, renowned platform. It became a medical blog in everybody's conversation from the New York Times to, you know, it's just this, I mean, I don't know how you read that as anything other than institutional cover-ups, whether they know they're doing it or not.

There's a level where there's like an agreement. I mean, we've seen it with Zionism and Israel our entire lives, and it's still happening, you know. And so this just really shows you this, is, you know, the timing of it, the effort, this feels like it's tied to something much larger than even what it seems it is. You know, but that's just my opinion. Either way. No, absolutely. Go ahead.

No, I was going to say absolutely that these, to me, these are like just examples of, because what I've described at the federal level is that one whistleblower tries to do his job. I mentioned in the article the names of these people. They're still working for the government. Brandon Crane, Spencer, Martin. These people are there. You can find their LinkedIn pages. You can find their emails.

We know the names of the people. If you had legitimate law enforcement above them who is willing to go out, after people, we could name them. And this whistleblower would come out and he would testify in front of Congress. Right now, he's kind of hiding because they've tried to destroy his career. He told me he would come out if we can get Scottish media interested. But what I'm describing here is you've got elements of the Mormon church because he also said all these officials in the FBI and in that Utah division happen to be Mormon. And he said that they put that before the Constitution, before their family, before everything else. So you have Mormons within Allegiance together in the Intelligence Network who are covering up these kinds of abuses. And then you've got people in the media who are willing to, for one reason or another,

I don't know if the guy who wrote it's a Mormon or not or if that has anything to do with it, could be. But who are willing to write these pieces, at least do lazy journalism. Even if it's not outright like trying to cover up, they're just doing lazy journalism. This dude could have gone and found the same information I did and he didn't. But I also want to mention one detail that I didn't include in the story that I'll share here for the first. time publicly is that the analyst told me everything that I've shared in this article, everything that he told me he told to a journalist with the New York Times and they chose not to run the story. Right. I mean, that speaks for itself. I mean, this is nothing shocking to people

that already watch our content. But I mean, and it doesn't, it's also important to consider. It may not even been the choice of the person he spoke to. You know, these are- Sure. Sure. Could have been an editor. That's why Larry Ellison connected to certain platforms makes a big, difference. Whether or not there's things that squeak by around, there is a central control element that is, you know, and I've never been of the mind that it's all or nothing everywhere, you know, that there are, like, Alison Marrow, somebody I've spoken to a lot over the years who was in one of those positions in mainstream media and got some good workout, but ultimately left because she couldn't cover certain things. It's a multifaceted thing, but there is when it matters a top-down

type of control that we can all see and that even those very mainstream platforms that pretend to do journal will fail to acknowledge that even exists because it undermines their entire platform. You know, this is why independent media has become such a force in today's conversation because nobody buys these people anymore. Because every day they're demonstrating that they're willing to pull punches for certain things where, I mean, really some of the core things for the average people, you know, the idea of power over your life, the idea of this kind of influence, you know, the feigning towards some kind of democratic, liberty-minded idea while all it's really coming down to is keeping us in our place. You know, I think America,

Americans more than anybody are starting to feel that. But that's why work like this is so important, Derek. So I'm glad that you're falling up on this. And I hope more people call them out. And I'll second your point. Don't go out there and threaten people. Don't go out there and make – because all it's going to do, even if he feels justified,

is undermine the effort of actually exposing these people. It'll give it the rule to the fire of telling it the bunch of trolls instead of pointing to the affidavits and the statements and the evidence against him. That's what you should be shoving in his trace. I mean, I've posted on one of his comments on there. I'm sure it'll probably get blocked as well. but we should all just continue to call it out. You know, so I appreciate it.

Please do. Go ahead. Absolutely. And I just want to say, of course, thank you, brother, for all the support. And for everybody who supports T-Lav, because this is the kind of work that because I'm paid through Ryan and T-Lav, just to be frank, I have the time to stop and do and put the type of energy that I think it deserves. And I also want to say that the family that I mentioned, Gary and others who I've been speaking

with, have been very grateful and thankful. and to me that means more than anything to know that we're actually trying to help the family. The reason I'm a journalist, even as an independent journalist, is to try to make a difference in the world because it felt like, for me, my path of activism into journalism, it felt like maybe this is another way I can impact the world. And we don't always get those results. A lot of times we spend time researching and writing and talking about things, and you don't see positive results. I'm hoping, I'm praying that this is one example where all those out there who are hearing this, that at the least you can help us, the call to actually. being go on the social media platforms if you are there look for knock dairy castle make a comment link to this investigation link to this interview ask them about this until they block you um email go to it i

think it's knockdary dot com that's their main website for there they've got an email on there they've got a contact form i'm not saying threaten anybody by any means but let them know because in the best case scenario somewhere someone actually steps up and investigates this and david levit is at least brought to a court of law, we can get to the bottom of the matter and find out what really happened. And if this adoption took place the way it seems like it did, this now nine-year-old girl can get back to her family because not only just for the sake of that alone, but because she is a Native American girl who David Levitt falsely promised his family that she was going to be raised in her culture and brought up in her culture. Instead, she's been whisked away to Scotland and, you know, living a castle. Maybe it's a,

maybe it's a dream for a child, but it's not with her family and not with the people she was raise. And not only that, when you see these videos that they've been putting out there about the castle, this castle has hidden rooms and chambers and things that they kind of joke about on there. And in the context of everything we know that this person has been accused of, the husband and wife been accused of, it's pretty disturbing. So best case scenario, that little girl gets back with her family. David Levitt and his wife are questioned and if guilty, held accountable. At the least, maybe we can make it where his social life is ruined, where this guy can't go anywhere in public without being questioned about this where he can't put up a video on social

media without getting comments and questions about it because right now the the 1.4 million followers on Instagram have no idea who he is what he's accused of and what he has admitted to doing. And so my hope is at the very least that we can make his life a lot more uncomfortable for him and we can continue to dig into this and hopefully, you know, get to some positive results. And I would add, you're speaking for myself, I think the attention should be to raise awareness of what we know we can prove, right? Because even adding, ultimately, if, you know, if you're out there hearing this and you're going to go bomb one of his,

you know, and just, you know, almost, like I would almost say trolling in any way, even with information is counterproductive to what we're doing. Post it, yes, but to like constantly, I mean, do whatever you want out there. Obviously, people can do whatever they think will have the effect. My opinion is that I think we should be, like I agree with Derek. I think we should be posting the content. We should be talking about this. We should get an intention, like the, the goal is,

to get this, gain attention of people who can do something about it. You know, not just shove it and, you know, he knows it. Trust me. But, you know, I still think that's valuable, you know, make him uncomfortable, make him know that we know about it. But my goal is to get people to see it so we can actually have him accountable for it, which I'm sure we agree on. So help us make that happen and continue to support the conscious resistance in the

last American vagabond. And hopefully, you know, more work will be coming your way. Anything else you want to leave us with on the way out, brother? I appreciate you helping me put these stories together, man. and give me a platform to do so. And if anybody out there wants to connect in person, go check out ActivationTor.org, guys. I'd love to see you anywhere on the road the month of July.

Appreciate you. Yes, and come join us in Nashville Franklin, the N Gallery. It'll be a good time. And I'll make sure include the link down here as well for all the rest of the tour. So thanks, Derek. And as always, everybody out there, question everything. Come to your own conclusions.

Stay vigilant.