The Last American Vagabond - Robert Inlakesh Interview - What's Next For The US, Israel & Iran?

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

Joining me today is Robert Inlakesh, here to discuss what Israel (with the help of the West) is doing in the Middle East -- the ongoing genocide in Gaza, the illegal occupation and attacks on Lebanon, the ongoing ethnic cleansing at the hands of US/Israeli assets in Syria, the recent illegal attacks on Iran, etc. We discuss what's next for these multiple war fronts, what the objectives appear to be, and what we can do to stop them.Source Links:Robert Inlakesh, Author at The Last American Vagabond(17) Robert Inlakesh (@falasteen47) / XNew TabPalestinian Authority Does Israel's Dirty Work, One Killed In ClashesTop Iranian General Doubts Israel Will Uphold Ceasefire - News From Antiwar.comIAEA Chief Says Iran Could Resume Enriching Uranium Within Months - News From Antiwar.comUS reacts to ‘calls for execution’ of IAEA chief — RT World News(4) Alex Jones on X: "The Iranian news is reporting this news for those in doubt…. https://t.co/ymcfDxQrZV" / X(4) The Last American Vagabond on X: "Because it is customary for the "sleeper cell" operatives to carry Iranian military identification? #QuestionEverything" / XIsraeli media reports 17 Iranian nuclear scientists killed in recent attacks | News.azNew TabTrump Says US 'Not Going To Stand' for Netanyahu's Continued Corruption Trial - News From Antiwar.comIsraeli Forces Kill 86 Palestinians in Gaza Over 24 Hours, Including Aid Seekers - News From Antiwar.comNew TabEscalating Strikes on Southern Lebanon, Israel Kills Four, Wounds Dozens - News From Antiwar.com(21) Patrick Henningsen on X: "FYI - Israeli Intelligence controls/manages ISIS, and they’re now deploying them in Lebanon to help pull the country into another sectarian civil war…" / XAs Israel Further Occupies Syria, Western-Backed ISIS Patch-Wearing Terrorists Begin ExecutionsNew Tab(21) David Icke on X: "Watch this and tell me Israel has a right to 'defend' itself. It is pure undiluted evil and those that say Israel right or wrong need to find themselves a mirror. Not that this is likely to do much good because they will see an angelic servant of 'God' staring back. But that" / XNew TabIsrael Repeatedly Violates Ceasefire, The AI/Technocracy Bait And Switch & The DOGE DeceptionThe Trump Admin's Missing Ethics Pledges & The New Ceasefire Agreement Israel Already Plans To BreakBitcoin Donations Are Appreciated:www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/bitcoin-donation(3FSozj9gQ1UniHvEiRmkPnXzHSVMc68U9f)The Last American Vagabond Substack is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Last American Vagabond Substack at tlavagabond.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome to The Last American Vagabond. Joining me today is Robert Inlkesh here to discuss what's going on in the world to get caught up. Just, you know, all these different perspectives on the many different fields of war, the many different propaganda tactics, the many different things going on in foreign policy. And, you know, just to kind of get caught up on what he sees in the world today because, you know, very few people out there are as immersed in these topics as Robert is. So let's start off today, Robert. How are you, by the way?

How are you doing today? Yeah, I'm doing as well as I possibly can be. and thanks for having me back. Yeah, my pleasure, brother. So let's start with whatever it is going on. There's so many different topics, obviously. I've got plenty of stuff lined up. But, you know, what today was the one thing that, you know,

if I asked you was the most pressing on your mind, what is it right now to you that jumps to the forefront? It would definitely be what's happening in Gaza with the ongoing genocide and the escalation of air strikes and perhaps the Gaza humanitarian foundation, which is a privatized aid project, which was spearheaded by the Israelis using American privatized companies and also collaborating with ISIS-linked gangs that were previously used to loot aid and now continue to loot aid,

but also attack people and are used to secure aid transfers they claim. And now they're advertising this ISIS-linked group of gangsters, criminals, thugs as a grassroots resistance to Hamas, the Gaza Strip. So that situation and specifically looking at what's happening with the aid distribution sites and Israel now having killed 600 Palestinians as they were seeking aid, essentially luring them into a deaf trap, offering them scraps of food and then shooting them when they try and get those scraps of food that they're offering. That would probably be the most pressing thing right now.

But as you know, there's a range of different developments in the region. In any moment, one of them could explode and become the big news story. But I think, you know, the Gaza story has faded, especially the issue of the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, the so-called humanitarian foundation. The way that they name these things is sadistic, in my opinion. So, yeah, that's sort of faded from the headlines, even when we're talking about Gaza. There's a lot of discussion of the bombings, but not as much focus on these aid sites, which Trump, by the way, has just pledged that he'll give $30 million to fund,

which is essentially an assembly line mass murder project where you get people to herd towards an area, I've heard them like cattle towards slaughter. Yeah, references to squid game, you know, hunger games. I mean, all these different analogy or, you know, comparisons that I think are very clearly apt. It's obvious with them going on. We were covering this in the beginning, as I'm sure you were, about the very first day. And sort of like your coverage of Shereen Abu Klay and others, the story morphs in the first 48 hours. And the first, you know, every day to day, the story changes from no, we shot above them.

Oh, no, it was them. Or they shot first. And until, you know, it just drips away. And then the next day, the day after, the day after that, multiple reports have continued shooting. It just drifted away, right? So they have been executing people in these lines. It's just grotesque. Doctors, testimony about it.

So I want, before we get into that, and I want more, we hear more about the, you know, just the whole dynamic and how you see this going forward. But you mentioned ISIS-link group. So let's talk about that first. Give people listening more insight on the GHF, the Gaza Health Foundation, the ridiculous, fake, you know, whatever. Give us insight to that group, the Mossad overlap, you know, the, manipulation that it is and the ISIS-linked groups. And, you know, any way you want to go around that, because as you clearly indicated there, this is not a new dynamic, you know, the new rebels

fighting the, you know, like the new moderate rebels kind of a game. So talk about the foundation and really give us some deep background on the ISIS-linked group. I want to hear more about that. Well, I think addressing the ISIS-linked gangs and then putting that together with what's happening with the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is where this conversation should start. Because these gangsters, which are led by a criminal named Yasser Abu Shabab, were essentially used by the Israelis after Israel invaded Rafah in sovereign Gaza last year. They essentially created a safe zone for them, which is a kill zone for anyone else, including, you know, emergency workers, if there's a bombing in the area and they want to inspect,

and they want to come close to this area, which is in the eastern portion of sovereign Gaza, they set up these gangsters there. And the only way that the aid trucks could go in was through this territory. And what the Israelis would do is they coordinated with these gangs, and they were a few hundred. They numbered a few hundred at the time, these gang members, who were primarily from a number of Bedouin tribes that exist in, Gaza, but also their family links expand into what's now considered Israeli territory in the

Nakhab or Negev desert area, Bresaba, as a major city there, and into the Egyptian Sinai. And so these groups, and it's not by any means to say that the entire Bedouin families are like this. In fact, the families have officially condemned these militants. this point, but they drew from these families and specifically focused on recruiting criminals who had escaped from jails in the Gaza Strip police stations that were bombed. The entrances were bombed by the Israelis at the beginning of the genocide in 2023.

And these individuals who, like Yasser Abu Shab, guilty of trafficking drugs, there's others. There's one guy. His name is Shadiyaz Sufi. He was a convicted murderer who had fled to the Sinai at one point to try and evade the law in the Gaza Strip and be arrested. He was set to be executed before Israel bombed the prison and allowed him to exit. Set to be executed by who? Who was the one saying that? by Gaza, by Gaza authorities or from Israeli authorities?

The Gaza authorities. So the authorities, Hamas, obviously, were the government in Gaza. And so they had a police force, of course, and a security apparatus. And so they would do things like, for instance, crack down on the smuggling of drugs across the Egyptian border. And it was these groups that we now see today, these fugs that we see today, who were involved in facilitating the transfer of drugs into the Gaza Strip and long known many of them as well to be collaborators with the Israelis and to have spied and committed murder,

you know, trafficking, all sorts of these crimes. So these are criminals essentially. These are outlaws. Israel then used these outlaws when the time, an opportune time came for them, which was when they invaded Raffa because before what happened in the Gaza Strip is they had tried to use collaborators in order to steal the aid, to sow chaos, to attack and even replace, that's what their aim was, to replace the internal security force, which obviously is linked to Hamas, with these fucks. But they didn't get away with it until Raffa was invaded. And Israel got full control over the Egyptian Gaza border area. And so then, like I was explaining before, the aid had to come in specifically under Israeli supervision.

There was no policeman there. The Hamas police couldn't get near this area to try and secure the aid or they would be killed. They were taken out in airstrikes. And so when the international organizations, the humanitarian organizations, organizations would bring in food aid, they would bring in fuel or whatever they would bring in the small quantities which were allowed in. And this is something that not all of them could say outright. They couldn't admit it because, of course, you can't admit to every single time you take aid into Gaza, you have to pay a bribe. Right. But they were forced to pay bribes to Abu Shabab, who runs this ISIS-linked gang that operates under full Israeli.

supervision. Now we've seen they have Israeli tactical vests, Israeli military helmets, Israeli weapons that were supplied to them. These humanitarian organizations had to send their trucks for there. So they would either pay the bribe or they would be ambushed and the food would be taken and essentially brought to these warehouses, which the Israelis have full view and knowledge of. And then what Abu Shabab's men would do is that they would take. take this food aid and they would drip feed it into different areas in Gaza onto the black market. And what happened because of that and because the humanitarian organizations really didn't have a choice, they had to pay the bribes, they had to just accept that bunches of their aid and sometimes the entire

aid truck would be looted and taken away. They essentially, unfortunately, accepted the situation where the prices were hiked up at the markets for food in Gaza. So only if you were wealthy enough, would you be able to buy food to feed your family from these markets? And the aid that came in was not enough for the people, as we saw over a large period of time now, especially children, the elderly vulnerable people, people with preexisting medical conditions have died of starvation, malnutrition. Many people have different chronic illnesses that have come on because of the conditions that they're living under. And then what happened after the ceasefire came in earlier this year and Israel violated it is they transformed this criminal militia into a grassroots resistance against Hamas, they're saying. And then this militia force now carries out operations against Hamas for the Israelis. And also what it does, aside from looting aid continuing to do that, and there are definitely cases, documented cases where they've done this.

They also are collaborating and they are the force that is supposed to be, at least on paper, securing aid transfers with the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation. So all of this is interlinked. And we haven't even gotten into the ISIS links to these groups because these, you know, many of these militants, these criminals, were either formerly members of Daesh, the branch of Daesh, which or ISIS. which emerged in the Gaza Strip in 2015, which Hamas cracked down on and destroyed that very same year. It tried to come back in waves after that. Hamas had to confront it. In 2018, ISIS declared war on Hamas because it was cracking down on these groups. But they were also part of different Salafist groups linked to Al-Qaeda,

these fugs and these criminals who operate in these same networks. going all the way back into the late 2000s. So we're talking about people who have been hardened, Salafist militants combined with your common thieves and criminals and murderers who have essentially collaborated with the Israelis and been armed by the Israelis as a so-called grassroots resistance to Hamas, which nobody in Gaza accepts, by the way. But unfortunately, they have to accept that they exist and that the aid is coming in that way because they don't have anything to eat.

Before we go on to those many other points that we're going to flesh out, the point right there where you highlighted about the emergence of that ISIS element in Gaza, what's your opinion on that? We've talked in the past, you and I about the obvious general sentiment of ISIS al-Qaeda being essentially proxy elements of these powers. That's not, it's a very nuanced conversation. There's many moving parts to it, as you've pointed out. But so in your opinion right there, is that an organic thing that was then pushed back? I mean, it's obvious to show that ISIS and Hamas are not the same thing. And that many overlapping examples throughout the years show you that ISIS is very close to the Israeli U.S. kind of establishment. But in that moment, is that an organic thing?

Or do you think that's something they created and kept trying to institute in that location? What's your opinion on that? My opinion, and I don't have proof that the Israeli set up the Gaza wing of ISIS in 2015, But my guess would be that they were implicated in it. I don't see how these groups were operating otherwise, and especially even the Declaration of War against Hamas and how antithetical they were. Even in 2015, ISIS fought to capture the Yarmouk refugee camp in Syria.

And so Hamas, which had sided with the Syrian opposition, by the way, fought against ISIS. And one of their top commanders was captured by ISIS. Hamas and the other opposition groups were defeated by ISIS in this battle. And a Hamas commander was beheaded by ISIS. That was the same year that ISIS then coincidentally just pops up in Gaza. Now that they've had this battle with Hamas, Hamas obviously cracked down on them. But we've seen that these Salafist elements and these al-Qaeda-linked elements,

were active in Gaza, we're committing suicide bombings, kidnappings of journalists and activists as well, the murder of activists in the Gaza Strip for a very long time. There were massive clashes between Hamas, their security forces, and al-Qaeda cells. Throughout the history of the Hamas rule of the Gaza Strip, they constantly had to crack down on them. They had to arrest the ring leaders. in these terrorist cells. And they fought gun battles in the streets with these militants.

So there's a long history of that in the Gaza Strait. Not only that, but another thing, which is, I suppose, anecdote on the side, which supports the notion of Israeli involvement with these groups is that there were many times where Hamas arrested members of these Salafist groups for firing rockets, at Israel, these sort of bottle rockets that they'd fire over,

which would then invite an Israeli response. Right. So there were these times where randomly, and when nothing was happening seemingly, there would be one or two rockets fired over, and they would just land in open areas and they wouldn't pose a threat to anyone. And then suddenly that invited an Israeli attack

on the Gaza Strip. And these groups did that. These are the groups that participated in that and Hamas, their policemen, arrested, these people for it. The implication clearly being at least not saying proof, but the implication being that possibly if they're working on behalf of this element, which there's ties you can prove that that was done for the interest of the desire to launch that attack, for whatever reason. As we were very clearly seeing today as it's coming out for what, the 15th time over the years,

where Israeli media and Israeli people are highlighting the Netanyahu's once again, conducting war to keep himself out of jail. And so that's one very easily proven and obvious potential point there. But that's just fascinating to see how many different ways is interconnects and how long this has been going on. So in regard to the ISIS links and the GHF connected back to Israel and United States as well, first the ISIS links in general. So that's important. So regardless of being ISIS connected, these groups are what we just described, right? It's interesting. But then what makes it all the more insulting is to prove that, you know, the very group they're always trying to highlight is what they're fighting around the world is in fact doing their dirty work right

on the ground, which is not new. So go into what that is. And if you have any other examples of why it's not new, I'd love to hear that too. No, it's definitely not new. Like, evidently, we know in the case of Syria, the Israelis were backing at least a dozen Syrian opposition groups since 2013, one of them being a Nusra front, which was commanded by Abu Mohammed al-Julani, who's now known as Ahmed al-Shara. He's the Syrian president now, who turned. He changed the name from Nisra to Hayatah Tahrir Hasham, which now runs Syria today. But it's interesting because at the same time in 2013, when these groups started getting funded, many of them were collaborating, including Nusra, by the way, at the same time that Nusra was collaborating

and working together with ISIS in Syria, the Israelis were simultaneously providing funding and weapons. over to the group. And that's now the guy who is running Syria, who headed that organization, and it's no surprise to anyone that he's now moving towards a normalization agreement with the Israelis. But, you know, the Syria element to this obviously

proves the point. It's the strongest, you know, proof here. But also in the Gaza Strip now, these people, many of these militants who are, you know, hardened Salafists who were either loyal to ISIS or Al-Qaeda movements in the past are now openly collaborating with the Israelis to overthrow Hamas. And then, of course, it's funny because Yasar Abu Shabab, the sort of ringleader, he was interviewed on no other than the Israeli Army radio,

to which he told the Army radio that all the claims that were collaborating with Israel is just propaganda, Hamas propaganda, while he's speaking to Israeli army radio from a territory controlled by the Israelis where they provide him with air support. So, I mean, at this point, those links are crystal clear. We have lots of historical examples of Hamas fighting against some Haida and against ISIS, of course.

But now the Israelis, you know, they let the cat out of the bag. And even Netanyahu, he was forced to admit because of Victor Lieberman and others in the Knesset brought up the fact that why are we funding ISIS. Maybe this could have blowback. That was their point of view. Like this could at some point backfire on us. And so he admitted, no, no, there's nothing wrong with funding these people. Like this is a strategy against Hamas. So they've openly admitted it at this point.

So it's not even something that we have to debate right now whether it's happening. We can talk about past examples. You know, in 2015, was the rise of ISIS and Gaza financed by the Israelis or something like that, which we don't have proof for. We can just speculate. But now it's out in the open. These are hardened, militants, some of them, and criminals. And that's really what they are. They're collaborators and criminals more than they are ideologically committed to anything.

But of course, if you allow these people to take over, which they're not powerful enough to do. but if you were allowed to allow these people to take over, they would rain terror on the people of the Gaza Strip. And the Israelis are completely fine with that. And they're already doing that as you've recovered many times, right? Ethnic cleansing, all the white massacres. I mean, it's been going on to the beginning. And that's the most cartoonish part of all this, is that like you described,

Jolani or whatever, you know, what is he calling himself now? Or is that his new name? Yeah. So basically now it's the group that was moments ago, you know, we had a $10 million bounty. on his head the group they claim they're fighting you know and just on a dime becomes the man in the suit and trump's there making a picture next to him you know it's just so silly and and and and the ongoing claims and you know the israel sweeps in and starts building bases and there's names for settlements

you know it's just it's it's insulting to our intelligence to not be obvious about what that is you know but but what's interesting is it it's not even as you said there are precedents around them doing that in general or rather specifically with these groups but it's also in general you can see that they've done this before, as we've discussed many times, the, you know, and again, to be fair, very nuanced situation, it's not as simple as to say they just control them, but Israel has been shown to get money in the hands of Hamas many times in order to keep them divided and keep the, or rather keep the Palestinian people divided. So even in that context, you can see me, I think the point is they'll throw money at whoever, for whatever reason, as long as it suits their interest.

And that's, there's nobody that is, you know, unsavory enough for them is the kind of point. And they'll put money in the hands of anybody to achieve the ends. And it turns around and then point those very people as the bogeyman they need to save you from you know this is i mean that's that's textbook u.s policy as well right in front of us yeah we've discussed the hamas uh which i think is rather different to this because hamas when we're talking about the money going to hamas we're talking about qatari money which was before going to hamas but they just changed the method of it and obviously came in suitcases um for a period of time and uh this happened not just with nanjahu but with Yer Lepid and Neftali Bennett as well, those funds came through.

But they obviously in that situation, they didn't have a solution for Gaza. This is something that I think everyone can agree upon. They didn't have a solution for Gaza. So they understood that if they just let the situation deteriorate to a point of collapse in the Gaza Strip before and block all money coming in and no salaries could be paid in the Gaza Strip. then it would disintegrate into a situation of chaos and it would beget war and it would cause a problem and a nuisance for the Israelis. The Israelis wanted to sideline the Gaza issue and so they allowed this money to come in to allow salaries to be paid and the likes and that's why the funds

had come in. And another element of it, of course, is definitely keeping the Palestinian people divided, but that is more like more so what they did on the Palestinian Authority side. The Palestinian Authority are essentially a full collaborator force with the Israelis. They do their bidding at every single turn. And they crack down on grassroots resistance in the West Bank. And even when Hamas in 2017 tried to sign an agreement to bring the Palestinian Authority, despite all of their flaws, into control of the Gaza Strip, they wanted them to take over the Sifil administration.

Israel and the United States collapsed it. So they could have actually achieved this so-called, oh, taking Hamas out of power. That could have been achieved in 2017, but they refused to do so. So it's another point against them. But you're correct that they'll throw money at anything and anyone in order to try and serve their aims in the short term. And then they turn around and cry victim when suddenly things don't go their way. And even this could be the case in Syria, many of those groups that received funding and were operating in Idlib, you know, tomorrow there could be a revolution in Syria and some of those groups could take over.

If that happens, now you might have a government in Damascus, which is adversarial to the Israelis. I'm not saying that's going to happen. But there are certainly lots of groups there that are still adversarial to Israel. So, you know, and then they'll cry victim. but it's like, well, you endorsed this. You endorsed this whole experiment. And then you were trying to normalize with one of your allies, Ahmed Ashara, who you funded since 2013,

despite knowing that he was a commander of ISIS and the group he was commanding was Al-Qaeda in Syria. And it still is Al-Qaeda in Syria. The only difference is the leadership of this al-Qaeda group is controlled by foreign intelligence agencies. is Ahmed Ashara or Jolani has always been an asset of the MI6. And the others are different assets for other intelligence agencies. But underneath that, the militants that are parts of these groups actually do adhere to the Al-Qaeda

Salafist mentality and they do hate Israel. So at any moment, that project could collapse and then suddenly you've got all these people, who want to attack you. And then they'll cry victim. Which they could still use, though. I think that's the mindset is that even if it spins out of control, it kind of makes their point real. You know what I mean?

Like self-fulfilling prophecy. You know, what's so fascinating, the picture you paint there is, I mean, you have to realize, if you can prove these assets at the top, which is what they are, you know. I think even was it Muhammad bin Salman that essentially admitted that at one point

where he said that, you know, pointing out that yes, they essentially are behind a lot of these groups, but some of the people, like two things, that the leadership don't necessarily believe, like you just said, in the ideology. It's more of a tool of manipulation, but it also kind of said in so many words that they've lost control some of these groups. Like, I forget what year that was, but I remember them, he was, there was a time where he was

really speaking out a lot, like, I think it was around the Yemen point, or it does not to get into, I'm forgetting exact mindset, but the point that he said that publicly shows you that, you know, maybe that he's distancing himself from the loss of that control, but really the idea that ultimately they are out there trying to just throwing things into the situation, not caring that what they're doing, like you said, could spin out and hurt the very people on the ground that they always profess to care about. You know, that that picture is so clear. We're talking about leaders, you know, CIA Mossad, MI6, like leadership moments that are guiding all this chaos. How can we ever stand back and pretend like those are the people trying to give us liberty and freedom and democracy?

You know, it's so insulting to our intelligence, but it's a good picture you painted there. But let let, good, good. No, no, I just say like this is the issue here is that every single time. they pull off all these operations or they might assassinate leaders in a certain group or commit terrorist attacks somewhere using the Mossad or, you know, overfroar government. And then suddenly after that government is overfroan or they assassinated a leader and suddenly a group or a country has become more hostile towards them or a resistance forms, suddenly then they're crying victim and just as a small point to take note of everybody, you know,

talking about Hezbollah, terrorist, Hezbollah, Hezbollah. And a lot of people don't know this. But when the Israelis entered into South Lebanon in 1982, the Shia population, which is what brought us, Hezbollah, that's where the Lebanese resistance comes from is from the Shia. At that time, there were, and there was video footage of this, they were, throwing rice at the feet of the Israeli soldiers. Many of them actually supported, not all of them, of course, but many Shia in the South actually supported the Israelis coming in. You know why? Because they at that time, as they weren't politicized in the way that they are today, they believed that the PLO

had a state within a state in their country, and they saw some of the activities of the PLO, and that was not to their benefit. You know, they were actually being undermined because of the PLO in some ways. And so that created this anger and a lot of the propaganda got fruit to these people and they actually celebrated. But what happened when the Israelis actually came into South Lebanon? Well, they bombed civilian areas. They committed massacres against civilians on the ground. And then after 1982, when the Palestinian resistance left to North Africa, to Tunisia, the Israelis used their flange militia, the Lebanese Christian militia to commit the Southern Shatila massacre and then commit subsequent massacres against Palestinian refugees, but also against Lebanese Shia as well.

And they occupied the south of Lebanon. And that is what birthed in 1985, Hezbollah, from a population that prior to that was not actually active in the struggle. There was the Amel movement, but the Amel movement was not as a hardline at that point. It actually had a lot of problems with the PLO. it will take a bit of time to get into that equation there. But, you know, in general, they did not have a population in South Lebanon like it is today. They created that by killing them, by subjugating them, by occupying them. And then they turn around and they go, why do these people hate us and why are they firing ballistic missiles at us? But it's like, well, because you committed massacres against them. And even today, they say, well, the pager attack was so specific. The majority of the

people injured in the pager attack were not Hezbollah militants. The majority of people injured in the pager attacks, even if they were family members or part of the party were civilians in a civilian capacity in civilian areas. Women and children were killed in the attacks, but they praise how wonderful this pager attack is. No, when you do something like that, you turn an entire population against you. You radicalize them against you and you make them want to resist. So they praise it in the so-called objective Western media, they praise terrorist attacks like this, and then they turn around and cry victim. Right.

Well, I mean, this is textbook terrorism. I mean, and anybody honest can see that. It was it over 70% of them were men and children. I mean, have you seen some of these lineups of just, you know, the most gruesome examples of them? Like I saw a picture, I think it was like seven or eight children and women and kale standing there with like missing eyes, an arm missing, you know, like horrible things. You know, and that they claim that they let it sit there for 10 years.

I think the evidence shows it was about five, but just floated around the community. I mean, the side point is obviously the concern of the infiltration of that kind of field in the U.S. or anywhere else and whether that's something that's going on today. You know, Samson option kind of stuff. We know where that mindset is. You know, that's really terrifying, you know,

but the overlap to that, the ongoing violation of everything they're doing. I mean, it's just so, it's so obvious that what they're doing is everything they've always claimed they're fighting and how frustrating it is to see all these corporate media entities like that go after. it, praise it. You know, it just shows you how compromised all this is. And that's a, I mean, unless you want to get into, it's a conversation for the day that deserves its own discussion

about the potential level of infiltration, how compromised governments are. I mean, I just think that's one of the conversations of the day. Like, we really need to start understanding how much and how obvious it is that Zionism has infiltrated a lot of these governments in the world. If you have comments on that, go ahead, but it's a deep conversation, you know. It's a deep conversation, but there is absolutely no doubt at this point. I mean, what we're seeing from not just in the United States, but in Germany and in the United Kingdom of these regimes and their stances. I mean, in the UK, they're designating Palestine action, which basically goes to weapons factories, which provide the weapons to the Israelis to commit

the genocide, and spray them with red paint or might knock out a few windows and stop the people from coming to work that day. They're designating them a terrorist organization in the UK. There's going to be a vote, I believe, on Wednesday about. it in the British Parliament. And if that goes through, they're designating anti-war activists, most of whom came from the climate movement as well. These are the kinds of people that they're calling terrorists in the West because of the Zionist lobby. And then there's no way of getting around it. These governments are completely, they completely capitulate. And it'll add to percent capitulate to that pressure. And there's nobody that stands up.

And that's because the political system is broken and money for their campaigns and, you know, getting reelected or gifts or being accepted in certain circles is more important to these politicians than their own constituents. They don't care. They don't care if that means killing children in a foreign country and sending weapons components like Britain sends F-35 components still in Germany and the U.S. are the biggest suppliers of arms to the Israelis. It doesn't matter if they're committing genocide with their weapons. don't care. Yeah. I do believe, though, as I think we've talked before, that moment by moment, people are rapidly waking up to this. And I think that is a very clear reason why they're becoming more desperate by the moment. And I think that's why this seems to escalate, even against what would be classic kind of, you know, justification for a little bit of restraint,

whether or not they're belligerent, you know, like they recognize that people start to see it for whatever reason. They seem to be pushing harder, you know. I think they sense the, they're on a knife's edge, you know. So on that very kind of note, what do you think about the potential, you know, I mean, it's like I always feel like I don't even want to give it credence the idea of a ceasefire in Gaza because of how obviously they've continued to lie about it and how obviously they never seem to what, you know, they're lying to us about what they want to achieve. But just since it's, it is popping back up on the point of a potential ceasefire in Gaza and Trump claiming he wants that again, you know, what's your, what's your sentiment on that, on where that might go and where it is right now? Well, I'm always hesitant to get excited about anything like this. By the way, that's the wrong article I had up on the screen. So I'll bring up the other one the second. Go ahead.

Well, that links into it because they're saying that Donald Trump, he wants to try and push for the Israelis to drop the corruption trial against Netanyahu as part and parcel of achieving a ceasefire and a prisoner swap. Oh, okay. So it is actually relevant that article that you pulled up. look at this point you know we've had 21 months of these sorts of claims coming out about oh there will be a ceasefire at this time in two weeks and you know at christmas you know on easter or whatever Ramadan ceasefire or whatever it will be we've been experiencing this and we've been going through this time and time again for 21 months and what i would say about it now as it stands is that the israeli cabinet had a mini meeting yesterday. And members of the cabinet were informed that there had been no progress on the ceasefire. None. They hadn't made any progress because the Israelis will not, they will not seed to the key point that Hamas holds, which is that they want a full comprehensive ceasefire, which is lasting. They want a lasting ceasefire. They don't want a ceasefire for 20 days or something

like they want the ceasefire to hold. And by the way, Hamas have already said, we will seed power in Gaza. We will seed power. They've said this. This has been their position for the best part of at least six, seven months now that they've been open about this, perhaps longer. They've said we will hand over the Gaza Strip to a interim administrative body, which is formed of experts and people and local leaders in the society to govern Gaza. We don't want to have a Hamas rule in Gaza. They've openly said it multiple times. Israel does not care about that. And Israel says even after, you know, defeating Hamas, they want to keep going. They repeatedly said this. So now we're hearing this talk, in my opinion, when we hear these kinds of announcements, it's normally to do

with the Israeli domestic audience. Because after Iran struck the Israelis, the appetite for the war in Gaza decreased. It's weird because the support for Netanyahu increased because they believed a lot of his claims, but the appetite for the war in Gaza decreased because the people actually, you know, got hit by a country that has the ability to properly defend itself in one. And so the Israeli population overwhelmingly wants a ceasefire in a prisoner exchange. Now, it's the vast majority of Israelis want it now because they want to wrap it up. And the reason for that is very clear. They say it openly. We're losing too much soldiers in Gaza. Our soldiers are being killed in a more rapid rate now. We don't know what we're doing. Our military operation is not working.

And we want to get back to normal life. And so because that pressure is there, Netanyahu, he knows that, well, I need to give the people something to, you know, feed on to sort of cool down, their sentiments and try and stop some of these protests again within the Israeli society because he knows if he goes to a ceasefire and he doesn't achieve anything in Gaza. He's lost the war per his own announcements before his own people. There is a question about, okay, his real aim was a genocide, which we all know that his real aim was, okay, we're not going to crush Hamas, we're going to crush the Ghazan people. And then by extension, what that would mean is basically that, you know, once we ethnically cleanse Gaza, well, Hamas cannot exist then anyway, right?

That was his real strategy, reading in between the lines and even reading their own statements. They say it openly. But his stated goals were crushing Hamas and returning the captives by force, which he's not been able to do. And so his coalition could collapse in on itself. And that's not just a bad thing if it goes to instant election. and he loses here because he can't actually have a vote of no confidence against him now for about five months because the last one failed. But even next year, come the elections, if he loses his coalition partners, he's done as a politician.

And then that corruption trial could come in and put him in jail, and he knows that. And also, you know, what is Israel after this? I don't think it's the same entity that existed before October. Number seven, I think Israel no longer exists. It's trying to redefine itself. It's trying to expand its territory. It's trying to achieve victories where there's no victory to be achieved. And there is no Israel anymore.

I don't think in Israel exists anymore. There is a genocidal entity, which is trying to redefine its vision and redefine what it is. Right. And it's very divided as well. The Israeli society can't even figure out what is. Israel is anymore or even what order should be. So, you know, all of this talk about ceasefire, it is possible. And I would say the largest, if it's going to happen, in my opinion, and I may be wrong.

I've gotten things wrong before. I've gotten quite a few things wrong. I believe that it would be to clear the Gaza front out of the situation, to take Gaza out of the situation, so that they can focus on Iran. That would be my guess if there is a ceasefire that is reached. It would be purely so that they can focus on and take Gaza out. Because Gaza, in the case that there is an all-out regional war, Gaza could pose an enormous threat. They could, especially the Israeli military is focused up north with a Hezbollah attack. It could pose an enormous threat.

And I think they understand this. Yeah, so this is interesting. So in a backward way, this could ultimately end up being a positive. from Gaza's perspective, that this could drive them to want to take it for strategic reasons, which whatever causes it, at least a stopping for the moment would be good in Gaza, right? So, I mean, just on a quick side note, prediction, mark my words, everyone listening. I'm willing to bet you if that happens. Here's what will follow.

The Q community is going to warp this into Trump deliberately tricked Netanyahu and bombing Iran, therefore getting his attention over there to cause the ceasefire because he's the peace president. Watch, I'm willing to bet you anything. That's what happens, even though that's absurdly ridiculous when you consider. consider all the facts on the table. Before we go into the next part of it, though, there's a weird element to this in the ceasefire conversation that sort of lingered, and I wanted your thoughts on this, because I haven't seen it covered that much. Now, there was a point put out, and I did confirm this with the actual back and forward,

like the back and forth of the potential ceasefire points going around through the different mediators, which was that I think twice, they put forward, like you just said, the idea that they would remove themselves from the conversation, which met what Israel pretends, at least, that it actually wanted to accomplish, when we know it's, something more than that, but twice it seems that the Israeli U.S. team denied that and then re-inserted the language that kept them in or changed it to where it kept them in as opposed to room now. So would you have thoughts on that? Is that even valid? Because I'd heard that that would explain a lot like that at the end of the day when it comes to the real point that

they're trying to make sure Hamas sticks around because it's the justification for their endpoint. What do you think about that? And is there any evidence to that? Well, Hamas have said, and they actually have said this for a long time and Hamas have not wanted to govern independently. This is something for years that Hamas has wanted to form a unity government. You might remember that in 2014 there was a rather big attack on the Gaza Strip, which lasted, I believe, 51 days. And that started because Hamas had attempted to sign a unity agreement of the Palestinian Authority. Hamas has time and time again tried to step down and allow others to govern. But it won't do that.

It refuses to do that if that means sacrificing the weapons that protect people that prevent there being an all-out ethnic cleansing. As horrible as what we've seen happen unfold before our very eyes, the Palestinians still have the ability to fight. fight the Israelis. It's not, you know, an army against an army. You know, these are guerrilla fighters against, you know, one of the best equipped militaries armies on the planet, which doesn't actually fight by the way. It has never actually tried to engage the Palestinian fighters. If it did so, then its casualties would be in the tens of thousands, I assure you. And they know that because in 2014,

they went in on the ground against Hamas and they got their asses kicked. And that's why they haven't gone and tried to seek out Hamas. What they've done, essentially, is they've hit themselves in armored vehicles and in tanks. They've not even put infantry next to those tanks. And they've just hoped that, well, if an RPG hits the tank in an ambush or there's an IED that goes off, there's some injuries. We can quickly, you know, evacuate them. And they haven't fought them directly. The only footage you can find, you know, in direct combat where there's, you know, one force going after the other is Hamas.

Palestinian Islamic Shihad, the PFLP, the DFLP, Fath or the other groups, directly engaging the Israeli military. They never engaged them. There have been a handful of special forces operations. Most of them failed. I think only one of them succeeded against the Palestinian groups. Other than that, they've just sat in fortified areas and hid inside buildings, and they've been ambushed by the Palestinians.

And that is in of itself a deterrent. because if you look in the West Bank, whatever Israel wants to do in the West Bank, it does. It does anything it likes to do in the West Bank. And no one holds them back because the Palestinian have already collaborate with them. So Hamas will not allow their weapons to, them to drop their weapons.

And they will not allow an agreement, which will put a foreign entity in control of the Gaza Strip. They want a full ceasefire and they want the people of Gaza to run. And they want the people of Gaza to still maintain a capacity, even if it's not Hamas being the banner anymore, and they say we're no longer Hamas, for them to possess a capability of self-defense. And so that's the major issue there,

is that the Israelis do not want to allow Hamas to step aside and allow Gaza to govern its own affairs, and then those police forces and those resistance fighters to go, okay, now we're part of the Gaza administration, because they're still going to have their weapons. they're still going to maintain a capacity to defend themselves and they can govern themselves and they know what's going to happen when they govern Gaza governs themselves. They will rebuild their territory and if Israel tries to attack them again, they will defend themselves.

And they don't want that. They want a defenseless people who are expelled from the land or they're completely subdued and they are incapable of standing up for their rights. They want them there in a cage in a concentration camp. And they don't have a solution for them. Their only solutions are either to expel the entire population or exterminate them all. So that is the problem that the Israelis have, but they can't expel them all because if they expel them all, then that creates, that destabilizes Egypt and Jordan. So then suddenly now you've opened up two more fronts against yourself.

Right. So the Israelis are just genocidal maniacs with a country's population, which overwhelmingly agrees with this genocidal mania. and this is what they're carrying out. And there's no other way to describe it. Yeah. And what's interesting is you can point this out. So exactly the point you made, which I think the evidence speaks for itself. The intention was a genocide.

I think that's self-evident at this point. And so if your intention was always genocide, then even from a strategic standpoint, why would you send in all those troops? Why wouldn't you just, you know, infantry? Why would just bomb them into submission? You're like, well, submission is a different point. They're not clearly not even doing that. but you know, just bomb them relentlessly until you kill them all.

I mean, you know, my point is it explains itself. You can see why they chose your point is also obviously there. They know they can't succeed in any right. But my point would be that there might be points where you might do that. The reason they seem not to is because they're not only sacrificing their own people in that way, as you can see endless videos of a hidden Palestinian, you know, military elements running up and putting bombs in the tanks running away because, as you said, there's no one there to protect them. You know, and it's just they're willing to sacrifice those people because they know it's just about,

mass execution, at least as my opinion, but I think the evidence speaks for itself. Well, there's the genocide there, and then there is the performance that has to be put on for the psychopathic, uh, ill Israeli population. They are. They're a nation that are sadistic and support overwhelmingly according to all the polls, genocide. Yeah. Overwhelmingly, they support genocide.

So this population. Really quickly, the majority clearly does. That's proven time and time again, but I do think it's always valid to point out that there's not an insignificant amount of people that do stand up and push back on this stuff, but it's definitely minor and compared, unless they're lying about it, which is possible.

I do see, you know, groups of Orthodox Jewish communities or people that are saying Zionism doesn't represent us, they're being genocided, you know, and it's just large groups, but it's definitely a small minority. I think that's important to point out. Jewish people are different because then you're looking at other countries. I meant Justin is.

real though but but you're right go ahead israeli jewish population like the ultra-offodox or another question um you know they're they don't actively participate in the israeli military in their views they don't really care about a modern nation state per se um and there are elements of them that have you know come out and there are groups that protest against the israeli's treatment of palestinians it's not the majority by the way but it is a portion um and then there's you know of some people that are more to the left. There's a very small portion of these people. It's a very, very, very, very, very, very small portion of the Israeli population,

but they do exist, of course. Of course, then you have Jewish people in other countries, which, you know, are standing up, you know, in all of the protests. And we see in the actions of Jewish people in the UK or in Germany or in France or the United States, Canada, etc. That's another question. But in terms of the majority of the Israeli Jewish society, all the polls demonstrate they, not only do they not, do they support genocide killing everyone in the city that they capture when it comes to Gaza. They also overwhelmingly support not caring about civilian life when they're bombing Iran.

They did polls on this recently. I think it's 73% of the Israeli Jewish population. So they don't, basically they don't care. and I don't think there should be much consideration for civilians when bombing Iran. That is the population they're dealing with. And so the Israeli media and the Israeli political leadership have to deal with this psychotic population, which are quite frankly genocidal, the vast majority of them. And they have to convince them, you're winning, you're the heroes, but also your victims at the same time.

and Netanyahu's doing this, and then he's going to try and there's got to be this big theater. And that's why the army's in there, like Operation Gideon's chariots too, which just started around, I think a month ago now, I can't remember, was supposed to be phase two of the war. And I remember writing articles when it just started. And I said this will be exactly more of the same of what we saw in the first phase so-called of the war. There will be nothing different, the Israeli military. I laid it out step by step. And exactly what I said happened.

And now this operation, Gideon's chariots, its wheels have fallen off. And it's achieved absolutely nothing. And they haven't done all these big operations. And we're going to go in and smash Hamas and Khan Yunus and Indir al-Belah. And oh, we're going to do this and this and this. And we're going to achieve victory over the terrorist and all of this. They haven't achieved that. And obviously they haven't achieved that.

And now these are probably like, oh, whoa, we're getting killed. Our soldiers are being killed. It's like, yeah, well, you're going and running incursions into areas where armed groups are. And these armed groups are people who've lost sometimes their entire families. And you're like, oh, our poor soldiers are being killed. So now there has to be a performance. And Netanyahu has to put on a performance for his psychotic population, who are so insane that it's like, well, when we lose seven soldiers, it's the end of the world.

But it's okay that we massacre 50 children today. It's okay that we starve to deaf children today. It's okay that we tested new chemical munitions on them today. It's okay that we lured people into an aid point after starving them and then shot them in the head today. But how dare our 19-year-old sergeants, which is another thing of their participation trophy army, it's not a real army, 19-year-old sergeants. Oh, no, six of our 19-year-old sergeants, which were placed in one armored personnel carrier, were killed today. oh my God, we need a ceasefire. Oh, we're suffering. Oh, it's so horrible. And then here comes the performance by Netanyahu

to, you know, make them feel good about themselves, just like when they kept delaying Gideon's chariot. And the performance came, these statements by IEL Zemir, the chief of staff of the Israeli military, we will launch a crushing blow against Hamas, and we are going to destroy them. And we're going to do this and we're going to do that. all these statements about we have new weapons and the US have given us this and then they go in and nothing happens. It's just more bombing of civilian areas and then their troops go in and do exactly what they did before and get killed. It's just, it's, it's, I don't know, it's, you can't make this stuff up. It's just so psychotic and covering it, it quite frankly, it gives you a headache. It gives you a headache trying to,

because even as I'm explaining it to you, I can't, can't, contain myself, but to use words like psychotic and sadistic, because it's so insane. It is. I mean, it's going to remain objective. It's just insane. It is. And it's, you know what it is, Robert, at least in my opinion, is that it's, it's obvious. It's, it's, when you're looking at something that is self-evident, you know, it's, and they're just making up a narrative around why it's not that. And then that alone is frustrating. You know, but then that you get these massive influential groups of people who you clearly know, they know that's not true. They don't care and then drive, you know, create these narrative stories

around the lie and that becomes this massive thing. It's like exhausting that we even have to, why do we even have to step into that ridiculous conversation? Like I get it. It's overwhelmingly frustrating. But, you know, I think what's, the whole thing is that clearly we all can see based on the evidence what's actually taking place. We should stop, you know, even giving these people time about the arguments. The problem is that they have influenced. They've got funding. They've got resources, you know, and clearly they do have an effect on some people. Back to my point, though, is I think that most people are seeing this because of work like yours, because of the efforts that we're continuing to put forward. And I think there's something, you know, powerful there.

But it's only going to get crazier. They're only going to get more absurd and more forceful and scream more racism, you know, as this continues on. So I think that the point is to keep doing what we're doing and keep highlighting this. I know you have a short limited time. We're up against the hour here. You want to talk about Iran before we go today a little bit more about the same kind of stuff we talked about, but we've been touching on a little bit. You know, give me your, you know, five-minute overview of what's happening there. And, you know, the same thing, the ceasefire claims, whether the validity of the bombings, you know, whatever you think is most important to encapsulate before we have to run at a time here.

There's a few things to note there with the attack on Iran. Obviously, there is the international law and the disintegration of the United Nations and its charter on one hand. And then there's what actually happened. And perhaps I'll start with what happens. We can summarize the implications on the international post-World War II system. When the Israelis launched their surprise attack, which is what it was, it was not a preemptive attack because there's no evidence that there was anything to preempt.

And it was in the midst of negotiations. When they launched their attack, I believe that the biggest mistake they made was they went after residential areas because they invited the largest possible. Iranian response in the first round. But what Israel did is it thought, well, we can go after. And if you read all the think tanks and what they were saying, oh, Iran is so weak. And if Israel does X, Y, Z, then the Iranians will be put on the back foot. We can close this quickly, et cetera, et cetera.

The Israelis went in and they assassinated essentially 30 generals, IRGC generals and I think seven scientists. And they took down residential buildings to do this. they believe that Iran, like Hezbollah, would be sort of knocked off balance by this and wouldn't be able to mount a considerable retaliation. Hasbullah, in their case, the strikes that eliminated its leadership, its senior leadership and some of its middle command, it ended up putting it on the back foot. Hasbala was still capable of surviving and fighting on the ground and repelling an Israeli incursion. but Hezbollah was seriously damaged. There's no question about it in that fighting.

It was a blow. Now it's recovering, but it's different. You know, like the Israelis could go in and attack them in a way that nobody thought possible. The Iranians, they completely miscalculated. They thought that this blow was going to be, you know, essentially a knockdown blow, and the Iranians weren't going to be able to find their footing. And even I spoke to a range of contacts, military contacts, some analysts and then some ex-US military contacts.

And they all told me the same thing. They said between two to five days it's going to take Iran to just get back on its feet. Don't expect any retaliation anytime soon, you know, all of this stuff. Iran's air defenses were taken offline for the first portion of that attack because of the fact that the Israelis have this vast network of collaborators on the ground inside of Iran, thousands of them that had worked. you know and most of the attacks in the end were actually carried out by mossad agents and not by the Israelis themselves that really quickly that you brought up in the past by the way you've mentioned this discussion about the in the them using these sleeper elements inside of iran so just wanted to point that out yeah yeah and this is something that i believe they were going to uh to do in the

event of attack something i didn't anticipate is how brazenly they went after civilian areas and those images on the first day of like a dead toddler covered in ashes on the street and you know a woman, a mother trapped under the rubble with her children, that radicalized the Iranian population. And in fact, you know, the Israelis and their puppet, Shah, the son of the Shah, this, you know, monumental loser, to be honest with you, came out giving multiple speeches, calling for an Iranian revolution, and the regime is collapsing.

It's collapsing. Each day it was collapsing even more than it collapsed the previous day. And nobody in Iran even came out for a single protest in favor of this scumbag. By the way, even his father, somebody that is that openly a collaborator, even his father probably would have put him in one of his infamous torture centers for behaving in the way that he has behaved as a side note. But they tried this. But the Iranian people stood behind their government because of the way that they were attacked,

even people that hate their government with a passion. Many of them flipped because of the way that their civilian population was attacked. Iran, to everyone's surprise, got back on its feet, got his air defenses back online, replaced its generals, and launched a devastating missile attack in central Tel Aviv, which I was shocked watching it live on El-Mayadine TV myself. Within 15 hours, they did all of this. And the Israelis, I think, were taken back. It was just missile wave after missile wave after missile wave.

And suddenly the streets of Tel Aviv looked like the streets of Gaza. And Netanyahu came out, we're not going to allow this to be a war of attrition. We're not going to allow this to be a war of attrition. The United States gets involved very quickly. And then they've wound this down. In my opinion, this is not the end. This is not the end at all. This will definitely flare up again.

The ceasefire agreement, it wasn't an agreement. It was just both sides just decided to stop. Right. Trump saying so. There's no actual written agreement. Three things I want to ask you then before we go really quickly. So the, what's your thought on the ceasefire? From my research, it seems that the statement was made by Trump.

And he either was under the impression that somehow that was given to the Iranians or he didn't care that it wasn't. And then nobody even knew about it, but they all kind of just agreed like you're saying. Is that kind of what happened? That's the impression that I've been given as well. How interesting. It's just a weird thing to happen. And it's just, you know, what do you think about Trump? Do you think, I find it a weird way he responded.

He did that. Like, that to me gives me the feeling that he is being played in some way. What do you think about that? I feel like it is that. I think the Israelis are the ones that organize this because they wanted to ceasefire very desperately. You could see that their air defenses were collapsing, that Iran only had to fire five missiles to hit the targets that they wanted to towards the latter end of the 12 days. At the start, Iran had to fire like 200 missiles.

you know, to hit all of their targets. You know, in one batch, I think they fired 50 and another 150 on the first day. You know, and lots of them got caught by the air defenses. But after a while of just pounding away, those air defense systems were essentially null and void for smaller attacks. So the Israelis wanted to end it. And I think they just used Trump to end it because they wanted to get out of it. I think they wanted to experiment to see what would happen if the U.S. attacked the nuclear facilities. Evidently, I think, at this point.

And I could be wrong. Some new information could come out, which completely debunks this. But I think the whole idea of the obliteration of nuclear sites is utter nonsense. I don't think there. An attance facility seems to have been very badly damaged. But for Doe, I don't think so. Some of the above ground facilities were definitely taken out. But it's nothing Iran can't recover from.

We have satellite imagery that show that. I mean, they've been caught, as far as I'm concerned, lying about the totality of it. Yeah, exactly. And essentially what they've done is they've actually, you know, forced Iran into a position where now it will be more. It will accelerate its pace, at least in terms of enrichment, if not actually getting a nuclear weapon. I think that's what is zero wanted from it, to be honest. Maybe that that could have been the case. I think that like they, part of this was experimental.

Part of this is they, you know, they tried a certain attack and it failed. Their missions failed. All of their missions failed. They didn't achieve anything. But they still are fixated on. regime change. And they are going to continue to pursue regime change. And we would be naive to think otherwise. And I don't think it's a real, you know, I cannot see it being a lasting ceasefire, whether it disintegrates in a few days, in a few months, or in a year. You know, at the end of the day,

this is not a real agreement. It's just not. And I don't think this can hold for long personally. I think that soon you're going to see more air strikes in Tehran and more missile strikes in Tel Aviv. And that's going to be the way that this goes. But one thing I would say, and I wanted to know this before we end, is that this has been the complete disintegration of the international order post-World War II in the United Nations. You and the viewers of this program will probably remember that in 2003, the Secretary General of the United Nations, Kofi Annan, came out and accused the United States of violating the U.N. Charter for attacking Iraq. Now, at that time, the UN Security Council had previously voted on a

resolution condemning Iraq, but the United States failed to get the second resolution, which authorized the use of force against Iraq. Therefore, it was illegal. And the Secretary General of the United Nations said that the United States violated the UN Charter. There was at least some opposition. The protests in the street against the Iraq war were some of the biggest anti-war protests in human history. This time, there was no years of weapons of mass destruction and chemical weapons that we gave to them, but hey, let's ignore the fact that we gave them the weapons. This propaganda campaign didn't exist. The public opposition, there were maybe a few hundred people protesting in Washington, D.C. when it happened, the United States and Israel both attacked

Iran, a sovereign country violating the UN charter, both of them, and what did Antonio Guterres say? He expressed concern, and he urged de-escalation, and he condemned all sides equally.

His statement against Iran's retaliatory strike against the US sent com in Elou-Baid airport in Air Base in Qatar was more strong the Israeli attack and the U.S. attack on Iran. The IAEA basically has been captured at this point by the Israelis and the Americans.

And it does their bidding. The whole international order is gone. There's no grassroots anti-war movement anymore. The United Nations is null and void. Its charter is null and void. International law doesn't matter anymore. None of these countries stood up and went, wait, this is a violation of the UN Charter. Oh, wait. international law, we're in the law of the jungle. That's where we're at. And this is the result of what happened in Gaza, where we normalize, slaughtering hundreds of people, civilians every single day, and nobody stands up against it.

We normalize genocide. We normalize mass starvation and all the human rights reports and all of the UN reports and the ICJ ruling, preliminary ruling, and the ICC warrants. You know, the wrong statute is dead. the ICC is dead. The only organs of the United Nations are essentially null and void and dead. The only influence that these international bodies have is on public opinion. That's it.

They don't have an influence on anything else. So what Israel and the United States have done is put the final nails in the coffin of international law and the post-World War II order, which was created to stop, ideally, to stop the sort of atrocities that we saw during the Second World War. committed by all sides, but especially by the Nazis. So essentially what Israel has done, Israel has removed all of the safeguards put together by the world to prevent the resurgence of Nazi war crimes. That's what Israel has done. That's what Israel has done. And that's just the truth. Yeah, it is. I mean, it's, it's so obvious that this has been something that's been building for a long time. And to your point about the propaganda, I mean, I think it has sort of been there.

We saw a really obvious ramp up and like a focal point of propaganda around WMDs. But as you cover, as we know, the building of propaganda around going after Iran has been going on for decades, you know? And so this is interesting to see this sort of begin, if you want to say that. I mean, I do think this is the beginning of where this goes and this kind of final part of what they're trying to achieve. But I think what you've highlighted today and the information, I mean, this, it does give me hope again that, you know, you see this. And I do agree. I do think a lot of other people see these things, many people for the very first time. And I do think that that is a hopeful moment. And even the point about like the international apparatus, the different mechanisms only essentially, you know,

influencing public opinion. I mean, what that shows me is everyone out there listening, the world, you know, it requires your involvement, right? This is where we need to step in as the individuals and do whatever we think in our interpersonal lives and our inner circles to try to point these things out, call out these truths and see this, you know, something start to begin in that direction because that's why that's the reality, because if we're not pushing our local power structures to do what we want, you know, the different ways we at least pretend representative government's work. And we have lost and we are, we are failing on our duty from that perspective as well. But I think that one bigger thing we can see is, you know, a lot larger thing happening

behind all of this. I think you very clearly highlighted all the manipulations through these things, but I think there's a bigger dynamic happening, like that all of this and are different moving parts to something larger toward the end. And I think an example of that to end, and feel free to comment on this on the way out, is that the foreknowledge of all this, you know, the warning of Iran that appeared to be there, which we've seen in the past, right, the back channels around bombing the Iraq base in the U.S., but, you know, that was discussed beforehand. You know, in this case, I think it's been clearly shown that there was foreknowledge, you know, it's somebody had warned the B2 bombers were publicly discussed.

So it's not like Iran didn't see it coming, you know. And then the in reverse where Iran, I mean, Trump pulled people away from Iraq. The cutter base was basically removed in regard to people and important assets. And then they bombed, right? And so clearly it was meant to be. So to me, that's sort of a coordination and not to say necessarily all them are on the same side. We should consider that. Like in the COVID-19 dynamic where we saw them all kind of lockstep in the agenda.

My simple point is that we make sure we're all out there seeing the parts we discussed. today, but also where else it could be going, the bigger moving parts of sort of the globalist, Zionist, technocratic kind of awakening that we're seeing or really just the mask coming off and where that might be going, you know? So what, you know, the possible end game to what all this might lead to, you know, but thank you again for joining us and updating us because it really, you know, such a wealth of knowledge on this, Robert. And I think it's important people to check out your work, whether that's on Last American Vagabond or Mint Press News, wherever it may be today. And I will say on the way out, then I'll let you say anything you'd

like to on the way out as well, that more will be coming through T-Lab from Robert. So look forward to that. So thanks for being here again, brother. Anything else you want to leave us with? Go ahead. No, I'd just say, yeah, we have to wait and watch how things develop. It's very hard to predict things precisely. But yeah, you know, we might be surprised by the public and their reactions in the future. But right now, you know, I think there has been a lack of reaction to this, which has been quite shocking. But thank you for having me on. And as always, it's been a pleasure.

Thanks, brother. And we'll be talking again soon. So everybody out there, as always, question everything. Come to your own conclusions. Stay vigilant.