The Last American Vagabond - Vanessa Beeley Interview - The US/Israeli ISIS Psyop & The Global Zionist Agenda

Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you for tuning in before we get started and get to Vanessa Bealey's outstanding interview, a little announcement for you. As you might have seen, I've been dealing with some technical issues in the background that I personally believe are a little bit more than technical issues. And we had some issues today as well with the browser I was using. And ultimately we were forced to use Zoom. And we were in the middle of the interview before I realized that we, I don't have a paid account on there. And there's only a 40-minute window and it already started. And so long story short, our interview was cut short to about 30 plus minutes today, which packed full of important information. We're planning to connect again

Starting point is 00:00:32 tomorrow and go over some more information, hopefully with a longer window. But I wanted you guys to know that right out of the gate before you get into the interview I'm about to play. So thank you and enjoy the interview. Welcome to the Last American Bagabon, joining me today for a special interview around Syria and a lot of other important topics. One we are discussing briefly is kind of the globalist, global transition and change we're seeing and how all this interconnects is Vanessa Bealey, because on this topic, I say this every time. I'd rather talk to nobody else about this because she's so immersed in this.

Starting point is 00:01:20 And one of the most honest people I've ever engaged with in this platform or this field, rather. So thank you, Vanessa, for being here. It's good to speak with you again. all right and thank you for that's really sweet of you but it's it works both ways definitely like talking to you thank you no i mean it's it's it's it's it mean it you know like it's the one thing that i try to really at least think about in my own time at the very least is just the there's very few people in any field really that are just truly you know i just i find you somebody those picking the simplest stands by their principles that's something that i'm

Starting point is 00:01:50 really driving home right now even if you disagree with somebody you know if somebody consistently stands by what they say they're going to do, at least you can, you know, give credit to that, you know, and it's just so rare in this field. Even if you disagree, actually, you know, but if someone is consistent, and I'm not talking about myself, but how I feel, if someone is consistent and genuine and has integrity, I can continue communicating with them about everything, even if we disagree on a lot of things. Right. You can respect them as the word I was searching for, even if they have different opinions, if they stand by what they say. you know because it's important to recognize the people do have different opinions and may genuinely

Starting point is 00:02:28 believe them and it's not some religious thing you know but anyway lots going on today of just that kind of partisan engagement but today we're focused on the you know which it does obviously connect the foreign policy point with the recent bombing of syria today but with limited time for other technical reasons let's get into what i wanted to talk about and start with the you recently put this out uh reports of ISIS resurgence and really the overlap which this is the most important thing me and it's amazing to me that this is not it i mean it is seen by a lot of people hopefully the majority but the main circle of conversation whatever that means i guess the what they want you to think is the main circle of conversation is the jolani overlap and the al-qaeda you know hi tarylsham

Starting point is 00:03:08 i remember having conversations with you many times about this back when we were talking about you know uh the bret mcgirk and and um i'm linking on the turidlib and you know these different overlapping conversations and how we can be talking about this and the can't not acknowledging that this guy literally is what they claim they're fighting so let's start with this the current reality of the Syrian situation we could talk about the the shooting that took place that triggered this act and you know start where you'd like on this because there's multiple points we can get into it's very frustrating to see yeah I mean it is very complex um I actually just posted on X just before I came on Trump's statement back in 2018 when he said that's it

Starting point is 00:03:49 ISIS is defeated in Syria. It's funny you say that. That's an important point. And actually, as someone posted, which made me laugh this morning on X, they said, what? Were they saving the 70 that they allegedly killed today for a rainy day? Then, you know, like, I thought ISIS was done with. And I think, you know, first of all, I think we have to contextualize it. First of all, there is ample evidence, of course, that ISIS is another proxy of the United States and they have been circulating it around the region, particularly in Syria and in Iraq, but also sending it into Yemen, into southern Yemen,

Starting point is 00:04:36 to assist with the war against the resistance there, which we can come on to later as well with the relation to UAE and Israel expanding influence together in partnership. So contextually, we have to understand ISIS is a proxy of the US. We also have to understand that Jolani or Ahmed al-Shadar, as he's now been rebranded, also, in order to lift the sanctions and lift the bounty office. They had to change his name, which is kind of convenient. I mean, I'd love to know that if I change my name, I can go back to the UK, and I'm no longer a prescribed resistance faction supporter,

Starting point is 00:05:17 this kind of, right? But anyway, we all know. We got that conversation about the rebranding, what, like three times and laugh about how easy that is? I mean, it's just funny how many times they can do that. Yeah. But Jolani was originally with ISIS. The huge majority of his particularly foreign,

Starting point is 00:05:35 Takfiri terrorist fighters are members of ISIS. I mean, we've seen. multiple videos online of the massacres conducted against Syrian ethnic minorities since Jolani came to power in December 2024, with many of those factions wearing the ISIS logo on their uniforms. So effectively, ISIS is incorporated into what is known as the new Syrian army. the huge majority of those are foreign, Takfiri, and in fact, Jolani, no, it was Asad al-Shibani, his foreign minister under the Al-Qaeda regime that is not elected in Syria, who went to China and actually had a meeting there and has agreed to the export of the Uyghur terrorists to face justice in China. so at the moment what's happening Jolani of course had his meeting

Starting point is 00:06:38 both in the Kremlin and then in the White House with Trump and Trump after spraying him with perfume and the ultimate humiliation of what is supposed to be the president of a sovereign nation then announced that he's been made part of the anti-IS coalition

Starting point is 00:06:57 so what does this mean? This means that Jolani has been put in the position of turning against what is probably 50% of the forces that brought him to power in Syria one year ago. And as soon as this was announced, I said publicly, okay, this is the perfect recruitment drive for ISIS engineered by Washington and the Zionists,

Starting point is 00:07:25 and I'll come on to why the Zionists will benefit from it also. And so effectively, that's, That's what happened. Since Jolani has announced his engagement with the anti-ISIS coalition, we've seen a huge defection of many of his fighters to ISIS. We've seen the resurgence of ISIS in the setting up of checkpoints in Aleppo City and the countryside to the north, but also in the northeast on the border with Iraq, which is why Iraq, of course, was involved in the operations yesterday. In my opinion, what does this mean? If we understand that ISIS is effectively another tool or another instrument of power for the United States in the region, this means, as they always do, they create the terror threat, which means that they have to maintain their military

Starting point is 00:08:21 and increase their military presence and increase their aggression against whichever country is now infested with this terrorist group, which is effectively their creation. Whether it's fully under their control or not, it's potentially, you know, there is potential and it isn't. But effectively it was created by them. Who is going to be able to control ideologues, fanatics? Right.

Starting point is 00:08:47 Who have been created and, yeah. No, just real quickly, he pointed out a while ago, you know, he's always been very outspoken, well, at least in some points in time, about the thing you're not supposed to say. And he made it point while back that ultimately the same point that they were behind the creation, but that they ultimately lost control of these groups. But also he made the point that a lot of the leaders at the front of the groups aren't even as religious fanatics as they claim that they're using it to manipulate others. He didn't say that, but that's the overarching point. But yeah, it's, it's, we'll keep going, please. No, I mean, actually someone made a very

Starting point is 00:09:19 good point to me the other day that how they operate, you know, they, I don't know if you remember Rand's paper on the new warfare called swarming, which is effectively about the creation of small cells that carry out isolated attacks and then disappear back underground. And that's exactly how ISIS has been operating in Syria from the very beginning. And he actually made the point to me, he asked me, do I think they're actually a US intelligence asset, like literally created by US intelligence? And if you remember, what was it, S-I-T-E, that effectively was amplifying the ISIS propaganda, in the very beginning.

Starting point is 00:10:03 And there were plenty of connections there back to the State Department and to the intelligence agencies and even, I think, from memory to Israel. So that also is a very strong possibility. Obviously, not all, because what they will do then is to capture those that are led by ideology into the pack and then manipulate them to the point where they will conduct suicide bombing attacks and so on. And yes, you know, Saudi Arabia, the entire Wahhabi complex, which is Saudi Arabia, was created by the British. It was created by the British back at the same time that they were creating the Zionist entity to divide the Middle

Starting point is 00:10:50 East, effectively to already partition the pan-Arabism that was on the rise at that point with the coalition between Egypt and the Syrian Arab Republic, right? And so therefore the British enabled the House of Al-Saud and the Wahhabi doctrine to effectively dominate Saudi Arabia in order to provide the support and protection and apologism for the Zionist entity going forward. The same with the UAE and to a lesser degree with Qatar. Qatar is more connected to the Muslim Brotherhood, which is kind of seen as the political arm of Islam,

Starting point is 00:11:33 but has also been weaponized by the West to destabilize and disrupt and interfere with a sovereign nation such as Syria. And in fact, they have a very long history of it in Syria from about, well, certainly the late 70s until now. Sorry, if you keep going, I don't want to cut you off. No, no. I'll jump in. Yeah, well, there's so many things that I'd like to get into that, you know, they're, right, like, let's start, let's stay with the Siri points that we started there. But I really want to talk about the Zionist overlap to this and I want to talk about some of the bigger moving parts, but specifically to the ISIS point, as you mentioned, it's just, I make that joke often of, you can't say you defeated ISIS 100% multiple times and act like you're still engaged with them, but they lie, surprise, surprise. But I'm interested in, you know, so I agree with you in regard to the fact that it's, you know, it's multifaceted, right? The Wahia background, the Wahist background, you know, which is clearly, the more radical, but yet we don't regard Saudi Arabia as being, you know, it's obvious how that works. But my point being that

Starting point is 00:12:31 the U.S., Israel, the U.K., it's a proxy force to a large degree, and it's multifaceted like you laid out. There are people that are actually carrying out lunacy, right? But what's important that I think is that knowing that, how do we explain I would like you to get into the Syrian ISIS part of this with the shooter

Starting point is 00:12:46 itself and the recent attack? Because it's so what I understood, which is secondhand reporting, is that the guy was, they are claiming they wanted to get rid of him because he had ISIS connections, but then it was claimed that he was saying they were going to sack him. They were going to sack him. Right. I mean, this is just the funniest story. But they waited because it was holiday, right? It was a Christmas time, so we waited. Yeah. And the attack was carried out on an administrative holiday, which was Saturday. I mean, as if the

Starting point is 00:13:12 tech theories care which day it is when they conduct an attack. I mean, it's just stupid. And this is being reported by people like the Atlantic and counsel for foreign relations, as if it's serious. You know, but so what I want to get at is, what do you take from that, which is the truth? And maybe it's both. So this guy, the point was he was also claiming that they were the ones that were infiltrated by ISIS. And that's why, so, you know, obviously your point is Jolani and that's clear. There's ISIS elements that are very much supported in Syria by Bolton. But so where does the guy fall into it?

Starting point is 00:13:43 And what do you feel in that event was the reality? Was there really an attack? Was it a false flag? Was it Israel? You know, how do you, how do you feel about that reality? Well, that's quite interesting because I've been discussing. with a number of people both still inside Syria and also here, because there's a number of Syrian Arab army elements that fled. Well, they had no choice back in December 2024 and are now

Starting point is 00:14:07 here and others are in Iraq. Oh, so residual Assad forces, you mean? Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Yeah, there's a there's a huge number. There's there's a hundred thousand between Iraq and Lebanon. Interesting. Now, there are some theories here that are saying, because what is very odd about the attack. I haven't seen any photos. I haven't seen any videos. And they're claiming that it is this one guy that has been photographed very close to Jolani. And he was supposedly among the very close entourage of Jolani, but they were about to sack him because they've discovered his extremist tendencies, which is just ridiculous. Because, you know, the majority of Jolani's entourage, that's what he he countered.

Starting point is 00:14:54 on. To rule over Idlib was to effectively dominate all of these extremist fanatic groups, right, akin to Al-Qaeda, okay, before it was rebranded as HTS. So the theory is that because there is very little evidence, number one, of who was killed and how many were killed, and what exactly the attack entailed. And the odd thing is, and this reminds me of a lot of other false flags, there had apparently been strong warnings given to the U.S. military to be very careful in this area because ISIS is still operating there. And of course, they were even prior to December 2024. ISIS were being rooted out by the Syrian Arab army, but they still maintained a large number of fighters there. And guess where they all come from, by the way? They all come

Starting point is 00:15:51 from the Al-TANF, the area around the Al-TANF U.S. military base on the border with Iraq and Jordan, because from there, they can pass very easily into the Syrian desert because Palmyra is bang in the middle of Syria in what is known as the Badiah, the desert area. And really quickly, I'll include some links because we've talked about that before. This is the location we've discussed about this sort of hotbed of the very terrorism we're discussing, but being sort of protected by the U.S. force. Right. Yeah, it's a recruitment hub, both there and in the Rukban refugee camp,

Starting point is 00:16:26 where they were literally recruiting people for the terrorist armed forces inside Syria. They being U.S. and Western forces. Yeah. In Al-Tanef, they were literally given protection. There was a 55-kilometer exclusion zone around Al-Tanf on Syrian territory, which the Syrian Arabamian allies were not allowed to enter. And there they were training them in heavy artillery use, and the use of drones, in military procedure, strategy, tactics, and so on.

Starting point is 00:16:55 And even, I think there's a video of a British operative training them in PR and propaganda and how to present themselves to the media and so on, of course. So there is a theory that actually this was a resistance attack. And they're trying to pump it out as an ISIS attack, one, to justify their presence. Two, to justify greater bombardment of Syria not to target ISIS, I don't actually believe that they're targeting ISIS, to potentially target weapons, depots, resistance, enclaves, if they can surveil them and spot them, they're using, of course, U.S. intelligence, Turkish intelligence, Israeli intelligence, right? So in my opinion, this isn't a war against ISIS. This is nonsense to a degree. Where I think it's potentially not nonsense is that Jolani might outlive his usefulness.

Starting point is 00:18:02 In which case, what is the preferred scenario? Chaos. Managed chaos, orchestrated chaos, which means effectively creating an environment for another war between ISIS and Jolani and his kind of al-Qaeda factions. But you also then bring in the free Syrian army, the former kind of Muslim Brotherhood factions who have already very much voiced concerns

Starting point is 00:18:31 over Jolani's policies and so on and are looking for backers to take on a conflict against Jolani. So now you literally have the three, forces free Syrian army, ISIS, and Jolani and his forces, and the potential for resistance. So, yeah, of course, you know, what is the U.S. are created as per normal, is an environment in which whatever sanctions they lift off the country, if they're going to maintain a level of chaos in that country, it doesn't make any difference.

Starting point is 00:19:09 No one is actually going to invest, seriously invest money in Syria right now. Well, on top of the fact that we've always pointed out, I mean, a country in chaos is easy to exploit, right? So whether it's rare earth minerals or oil or water or whatever else, that's all happening. Or human resources, there's all sorts of, I mean, even, I mean, really, the Syrian war has never stopped, right? It's always been attacked, always been under threat. And so we've covered, I think it was a long time ago, the missing children of Syria, the hundreds of thousands of children that just vanished during all this. These things happen every time. And so that's my thought on this.

Starting point is 00:19:42 and we'll bring up the, you know, the report showing that they have now bombed Syria in response to what they claim was attacked. I don't know if this is actually in the way or not, move that over. What I found interesting, 70 targets, of course, being praised by all the team support politics, streamers online, but what's crazy, you know, the peace president, no new war, you know, but 70 targets hit, we're doing well, you know, but 70 targets. Okay, so you're telling me that they're claiming as a lone shooter, right? And despite the obvious absurdities of the narrative, to me, that was not.

Starting point is 00:20:12 your point was it's that's exactly the point it was not about the guy i take this and you tell me what you think about this is the u.s this my gut tells me uh supporting israel's agenda in syria whatever that may be and this and these are things they needed bombed and so if trump comes out and goes we're bombing syria for any reason that's not going to be taken well if we're bombing syria for israel it's even worse so if he makes the argument that we were attacked by isis then this all seems to line up that's how i would read this yeah absolutely no you know you're no you're absolutely correct. And that's what I'm saying is that I don't think it's a bombing of ISIS positions. I think it's a bombing of areas that has the potential for resistance factions,

Starting point is 00:20:52 not enabling Israel to proceed with its occupation of the South. I mean, it is, you know, it's advancing gradually anyway, closer to Damascus. Trump has already started moving a place, and military, as far as I know, into the Mesa Air Base, which is to the south of Damascus. So if you actually, this is what I always say, if we actually look at the fact that Syria is now completely walled in, this is something that a lot of people are not aware of either. I've been reporting on this in the last few weeks because even I was shocked by the extent which it is becoming a big Gaza effectively. Right.

Starting point is 00:21:35 But if you look at the fact that the Zionists took over Mount Hermon, which is on a line from Damascus to the west, all right, thank you. And basically, if you look at the line going from Mount Hermon, which is the highest point on the border between Syria and Lebanon, to where the U.S. are intending to put in their military base to the south of Damascus, and then to Altanef to the military base. You can see there that effectively, in my opinion, what they're doing is securing that area. I'm not saying they're going to necessarily put a fence, but that will be a demilitarized zone, right,

Starting point is 00:22:21 under the control of Washington and Israel, with the potential then for Israel to continue beyond Altanif up that eastern section to create the David's corridor, which will give them access to Iraq. And effectively, if we look at where I've put the wall around Syria, that is a physical wall. Both Turkey and Iraq have, Turkey has completely finished the wall between Syria and Turkey. It's been building it.

Starting point is 00:22:56 I remember going to the northeast in 2018 and already seeing sections of the wall. And we're talking about Hebron city type wall, right? We're talking about automatic gun turrets, massive surveillance tech, patrol areas, both sides of the wall, jamming, drone interceptors and so on. This is a massive project. Okay. Now, on the Iraqi side, there's also, and I would say also on the Turkish side, there are two points to this. One is to encircle the resistance in Syria to isolate the resistance in Lebanon and equally to isolate the resistance in Palestine. So they're encircling all of the Palestinian, sorry, the resistance non-state actors in the region.

Starting point is 00:23:52 Iraq will actually be next to be targeted, in my opinion, the resistance in Iraq. They've already started calling for disarmament and threatening them, basically. So, you know, it's, I think you are absolutely correct, and, you know, we agree on this, that this so-called attack is for me a reason, because what is going to sort of trigger a response from the American public, if not to have American soldiers killed? Let's face it, they're not going to care if another Syrian gets killed, as they are being on a daily basis by. Jolani's terrorists that are supported by Trump. I mean, Trump has literally rolled out the red carpet for them, as has President Putin. And actually, so has China to a degree now,

Starting point is 00:24:44 because they see a chance to get a foothold back in Syria and also to resolve the issue of the Uyghur terrorists, which, of course, the Syrian Arabami died fighting for 14 years. I mean, it was of benefit to both Russia and China to have the Chechen terrorists and the Uyghur terrorists inside Syria and being effectively eliminated by the Syrian Arab army. That was of benefit to them, right?

Starting point is 00:25:13 Now, of course, they have to resolve that issue. So Russia is making a point of re-embedding itself in Syria with the collaboration of Israel, who has been lobbying Trump to allow them to stay. And now you have the narrative that Russia is going to be supplying patrols in the south to actually prevent the Zionist expansion, which I really have to laugh about, because Russia's role, and this is documented conversations between Putin and Netanyahu, Russia's role was very much to defend Israeli security. And that's why Russia put bases in the

Starting point is 00:25:51 South was literally to prevent Iranian and Hezbollah or even Syrian Arabami presence on the border with the occupied guard on see this is i appreciate you know your objectivity is so obvious in this you know there's many people out there who because it's obvious to point out in past situations that russia and actions that were taken are objectively what we would say were maybe the right choice or the good guy you know but i never how i see it right i think governments in my mind are always the problem but there was a clear example for a long period of time where russia was taking actions that was you know defending syria for example but with what we're seeing today you know it's never as simple as one or the other, right? The point is that it's not people, they get hung up on

Starting point is 00:26:29 they're the good guy in this dynamic and then never want to see the bad actions. You know, clearly, there's an involvement with Israel that we can't ignore with what's going on. And that's just very problematic. Coercion could be playing a factor. But so with limited time we have left. And again, it's due to frustrating technical limitations that we're going to be doing this probably again very soon. Let's finish with last about seven minutes we have to get into the overlap. And it's a large conversation, but we'll revisit it again next time. Like the larger point to this because you discussed the point here of let me just read what you what you shared actually and I'll put up on the screen of sort of a larger agenda there is an Israeli Emirati

Starting point is 00:27:07 alliance that is expanding past Sudan it has reached southern Yemen and Syria and soon may reach Egypt's borders now it's kind of one part of this larger overlap but there's also the discussion as you shared here from BM countries with Chabad presence in 2020. Chabad operates as an agent for the genocidal Zionist entity all around the world. So, yes, there's a real need to globalize the intifada. And I think my big issue here, I'll just leave it at that. There's another thing I was going to bring up is, you know, just that there's very clearly a growing globalist, technocrat, Zionist entity,

Starting point is 00:27:41 whatever this thing, and it's multifaceted. But that's how I see it anyway. I want to see what you think about this one part in Syria, the larger kind of technocratic drive in this country, and how Zionism fits into all of that and where you see that going. Well, I think also you've only got to look at Latin America. I mean, you know, you've just had Argentina and Costa Rica

Starting point is 00:28:01 signed what are known as the Isaac Accords, which are effectively the Abraham Accords for Latin America, and see the pivot towards sort of far-right neo-fascist regimes backed by Trump coming to power in various countries and leaving Venezuela, which, of course, is being heavily targeted by Trump and Colombia and Brazil that are still kind of, I would say, teetering towards supporting Venezuela rather than becoming another vassal state of the U.S. So how I see it at the moment, yes, Israel is very much using UAE as an outreach agent.

Starting point is 00:28:47 I mean, I don't know if we talked about the Israeli encroachment on Cyprus, for example, where actually they're using, and I can't remember the name of the company, I have written about it, but they're using a UAE organization to effectively buy up property on their behalf in Cyprus. So that's one of the clearest examples of how UAE is being used as an outreach agent. and partner for Israel. And in Yemen, this has been the case since 2015. UAE has supported the Saudi Arabia,

Starting point is 00:29:26 Israeli war and aggression against the resistance movement, which is Antrullah. UAE have established kind of US-style black sites in southern Yemen, where they are effectively carrying out torture and abuse, very much Zionist-style also.

Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah, much more known in the world today. Sorry, go ahead. Yes, UAE occupies the island of Sukotra, which is off the coast of southern Yemen on behalf of Israel again

Starting point is 00:30:00 because, of course, Yemen is very well placed for the Horn of Africa, which again, we're seeing, I think it was Professor David Miller wrote very recently about the Zionist contagion spreading

Starting point is 00:30:13 into the Horn of Africa and in Africa as a continent basically, I've been reading up quite a lot about this, how they're actually infiltrating through the Christian Zionist movements right there. It's a huge, I've been speaking to someone in South Africa about this. I need to get it written up because it's a huge problem in Africa. And then obviously into Sudan. I mean, but actually it's not only Israel because, of course, in Sudan,

Starting point is 00:30:45 you have the UAE supplying the weapons to the RSF, but they're supplying, among others, Chinese weapons, while China is also supplying into the SAF to the Sudanese armed forces. So, again, you know, when people talk about Chinese non-interference, like I have to say, no, like this, it's not correct. Well, because they do interfere, but it's kind of either by proxy in a sense through the UAE or directly. And I think nobody is disputing the fact that the U.S. is the main problem in the world today.

Starting point is 00:31:23 But when those that put themselves up as an alternative are effectively buying into the U.S. system of global capitalism and, you know, hegemony strategy and also aiming to, because this is why, in my opinion, in Russia and China have never abandoned their relationship. with Israel. They've never imposed economic sanctions on Israel. And they're growing their trade not only with Israel, but with the UAE, with the whole GCC complex. I'm going to jump in just, we got about a minute and 50 seconds left. No, it's good. I just want to give you the last point on this and then, you know, a couple seconds to wrap up here. But I'm thinking that, I mean, it's so obvious to me that this is something much larger than one country. And you're right to point all these things out. Like, this is a globalist agenda, which is funny while people that have claimed they've been fighting that you largely the people that are rolling this thing out are really you know in line with

Starting point is 00:32:20 it as i see so where you see it kind of intersecting with the technocratic part of all this just you know about 30 seconds then we'll wrap up and i'm looking forward to doing this again well i think that goes um hand in hand with it i think if people can understand that gaza is the model of the future of the world today so if you look at the amount of surveillance that is used against Palestinians, the AI that is used to target the resistance, okay, replace resistance with dissidents or people that don't accept establishment narratives, right?

Starting point is 00:32:56 And when you look at how now they're creating a similar environment in Syria, so in other words, it is expanding out. When you look at all of the surveillance tactics that are coming in clandestinely, right, whether it's digital ID, whether it's CBD, C, B, C, whether it's online safety, which is now enabling the censorship of certain accounts on certain platforms, right, which was what it was always intended to be. When people talk about child safety, these laws are being brought in by people that

Starting point is 00:33:27 protected Epstein. So hang on a minute. Right. You know, like work it out. It's not ever going to be for child safety. It's going to be exploited to actually censor those people that are exposing the people who were involved with Epstein or A and other, because Epstein isn't the only one, right? I'm going to leave it there just unfortunately for time, but we are definitely going to do this again.

Starting point is 00:34:11 Thank you.

The Last American Vagabond - Vanessa Beeley Interview - The US/Israeli ISIS Psyop & The Global Zionist Agenda

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