The Last American Vagabond - What The Hell Is Happening w/ Charlie Robinson (10/1/26)

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

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control exactly what people think and that is your job what the hell is happening what the hell is happening our homeland making things happen the world is our standard what the hell is what the hell is happening what the hell is happening what the hell is happening what the hell is the best on the planet we're going to develop it's already what the hell we could step up the passion it's happening happening it's already the madness of the new cycle spitting the wheel of chaos Welcome back to another episode of what the hell is happening with myself Ryan Christian and Charlie Robinson to discuss the chaos. And, you know, it's an ongoing point of how continually, weirdly increasing all this is. But, you know, it's always a relevant point to see the difference between, you know, I don't know, the difference of the political madness between Bush, Obama, you know, like the different kind of transitions of before to what we're feeling now. And not even a transition, which I think is an interesting point to start on.

We're in the middle of a presidential administration and we feel like we're running a campaign or not we, but it's like I was laughing about this. I'm like, every day I'm seeing a new like political ad from Trump. And I'm like, are we, is he running for president right now? What are we doing? It's so clear that they're like desperately going, please like me, pretend that I'm, you know, I just think that's very interesting. But that's why I think this show is so important because there's so many like weird, chaotic,

kind of like odd oddities that I think sometimes are important to focus on. but how are you, Charlie? What's your mind? Good. I wanted to wish you a happy Vegas shooting day. Vegas Shooting Day, but I miss something? Talk about a story that they don't want you to ever discuss. Oh, you mean the anniversary of the... Anniversary of, yeah. Well, you know, that story or that event is an interesting one for so many reasons.

And it could just be that it was the moment in which they needed something to use. But I always point out that it's not as much like I've been, a long time actually, but there was a point at which it was like every so, every, you know, a month later would be like a new video from the hallway in the, in the shooting. And you look and you're like, well, that didn't add anything to the story, but it would get like this cycle for like a few days and it would distract. And I always thought that was interesting that it's, it's clearly one of those stories that are riddled with, you know, unresolved questions and, you know, manipulations. Well, since you bring it up, what was your, what was your feeling about that,

the endpoint. What do you feel drove that? And do you think there's connections to right now? Because I think that's an interesting thing to think about. Well, my whole feeling on it was just the, was less about the shooting itself and more about the reaction or maybe lack of a reaction from the media or who they chose. You remember Ellen was involved and she got the guy and then he was going to come on the show. He disappeared. And then it was all very weird. And then so I was I was more focused on the response to it because, you know, you would make a calculation from what we've been doing over the years that this is going to be massive. Like it's going to be, we're going to talk about life is going to be different after this.

Like we're going to talk about this and the, I mean, it's going to. And it didn't really happen that way. You didn't get the, you know, heavy-handed response you thought. In fact, you got the, like basically ignoring it. Like, well, you know, case closed. As soon as the FBI rolled on the scene and, um, agent Rouse got there and started looking at everybody, um, the whole vibe changed. And then it was like, oh, nothing to see here.

So it was the, it was the lack of a lack of an authentic organic response. Like that should have been something that we debated and fought about for months, if not years. And they couldn't bury that story fast enough. And that was really suspicious to me. Yeah. And it's somewhat consistent with what we've been seeing over the last so many other events and sciops and whatever else, right? You know, like where it's not as if they even try to kind of put a fine point on it.

It's just like, okay, we're moving on. Epstein, Tyler Robinson, you know what I mean? Like any number of events like that. But to that one, though, my feeling at the time anyway was it was very highly questioned. I felt at least more so that I was used to seeing. Like people were wildly skeptical, a lot of reason to be, right? Other involvement of foreign policy, there's a lot of different kind of driving factors. And I think it just didn't go the way that it was meant to go.

I think that's so it was sort of like a cut your losses, move forward. But I think we're at a different point now where it's either incompetence or that there's just no turning back. And so even if these narratives and siaps fall apart today, it seems like they just keep trudging forward, whereas that one was like, you know, move. move on. That's the feeling I get anyway, you know. Well, you also see Sheriff Gillespie rewarded, right? All these guys moved up. I think he's Governor Gillespie now, right? If I'm not mistaken, play ball. That other guy left the Vegas PD and went to Maui. Interesting. Well, right? So, so there's a lot of, there's always been, I lived in Vegas for a decade. There's always been a

very weird relationship between the police, the media and the strip, meaning the hotels. And, you know, they keep a lot of stuff under wraps, you know, you can't open the windows for a reason, right? They don't want you jumping. So when those things go awry and they get suicides and things like that, it's an unwritten rule that the media and the police, they work together to keep that quiet. For tourism reasons, right? Yeah. Where does that relationship end? You know, like, is it only if it's tourist? I mean, arguably, the Vegas shooting is the worst tourism advertisement they could possibly have. they'd want to keep that under wraps too, right? So there has always been existing coordination between the casinos, the media, and the police. That's just been known. What isn't known, I think, to people who just visit Vegas as a tourist and they come and go is how utterly corrupt the Las Vegas Police

Department has always been. They are real bad guys there. And that has been something that I don't think got the sort of play. As soon as the feds got involved, it's like they took it off their hands but it's like you man yeah there was part of me that thought like you they they only pulled it off in that town because they have the dirtiest cops imaginable there you know and so you you need that you would need some some people at the top and of course you know Gillespie was at the top he's a he's he's he's the epitome of a bad Vegas cop yeah and and in my opinion is that if you any place i mean just profit alone is enough to drive any number of the things we're discussing. But when you have that much money,

flowing through a place like, you know what I mean? It's not just about gambling and profit, clearly. I mean, there's a thousand directions you could take that in from intelligence to any number of things that could flow and operate through an environment like that. And so it's almost like that's a cover. And let's not forget the mafia probably still to this day has a large influence on that conversation. You know, it's like, what's funny about on that side note is that I don't think we even understand like like whitney we have books in the conversation of what really became of what the mob was that never really went away just became our government essentially is what it feels like today but you know that that's the thought is that there's a large you know probably things

going on happening through there like the the gambling in Vegas is the veneer you know there's something much more you know important probably operating through all of that and so that's likely why but anytime you have that the point is that you know the authority that revolves around it is more likely to be corrupt. And, you know, it's like any situation like Washington, D.C. or anywhere else, you know, it's an enforcement from within, right? I mean, I'm sure that there's some times where they stop crime and enforce certain things. But at the end of the day, it's like, you know, the one cop that doesn't take anything ends up getting quietly killed or pushed away. It's not just a movie, right? These things happen in the real world, too. And that there's a

kind of a passive corruption that happens in certain levels of authority and that that allows to continue. Now, there's more money online than that's more likely. That's all I'm saying. And I think that's an easy thing to understand. Sad, though. Yeah. Well, I just figured we'd start there. Yeah, I mean, it's a good point, right? What I was going to ask, though, is so what do you think there's anything from that that connects to what we're dealing with today? Obviously, something that plays a factor, you know? Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know.

I don't know. I mean, there were, you know, there are a lot of people were talking about Saudi connections to it. I don't know about that. You know, I mean. A lot of money here. That's what I mean. Is there a lot of questions that were unanswered, you know, so there's questions. And so if you're talking about the Saudis, I mean, you, it's, you know, it's, you,

it always feels like they're working with somebody else. Who are they working? What were they working with the Zionists? I mean, they all have relationships. I don't, I don't know what, you know,

it was, I do know it really happened, you know, because I, I talked to a friend of my guy, I've known my entire life, who was in the ER that night. And he said it was crazy.

And I was like, all right, because I, you know, I mean, and I asked him, like, all right,

so people were coming in and got, because you never know, like, I, if he had said like, no, I was there all night, nobody came in. I'd be like, what? But, you know, he did confirm that, like, it was a chaotic situation, like, ambulances, you know, out the, out of the, lined up for like a quarter of a mile away. So, I don't, I don't know who ultimately, I don't know what the, what was the goal. Like what came? A lot of times that you can work backwards. And in the aftermath, you go, oh, we get the Patriot Act and so you do that, right? So, but like what I mean, if it, we didn't get additional body scanners at concerts, right? And then we kind of already have that. I mean, normally you get, you have an event, a problem reaction solution sort of event. And then you, you, you get the thing that you wanted in the first place. Right. So I don't know what came in the aftermath of that except was it bump stuff? Docs? Was that what was talked about?

Well, it could, I mean, it might just be that it was a failed operation. You know what I mean? Like this did not go the way that they wanted it to. And so spinning something off of that might not be, you know, who knows? You know, at the end of the day, you're right to point that out. But it could be that there's things that happen that we're not connecting to it as well. You know, like foreign policy things, you know, and so it's interesting. And it's also worth considering that this was just another of a series of events of the kind of things we're dealing with right now. A strategy attention event.

Yeah, just why? Because we can. You know, why? Because now you have to look over your shoulder at concerts in Las Vegas and really elsewhere because it could be one of those. Maybe somebody was taken out. I mean, that was one of the arguments at the time, you know, that a lot of this might have just been a larger cover for something specific.

And that's something we should consider in all these events, you know, that maybe there was somebody that we're not even thinking about that's not even on the table of the conversation, some CEO of some company, you know, whatever, that just gets wiped away with a large group of people and that was the main point. or an airliner crashes and there was only one person on the plane that was really the point. You know, like this is historic. Patent holder on the airplane, right? Whenever these plane crashes go down, was there somebody on there who was a patent holder

on some unique technology that maybe, I don't know, reverts to the Rothschilds if they die in a plane crash or something? It would be morbid. But like a lot of times, like that unfortunately is like, you have to ask that question because we live in a world in which that's possible. Now is it, does it happen every time? No, planes go down. because they do. But they also go down because it's a convenient way to say, hey, you know, shit happens. And I think in the case of what was it, MH370, there were a lot of free-scale

semiconductor patent holders on there. Was it 730 or three-s, either way. We know what about it. So like, I don't know, probably, I mean, you know, worth asking questions about. Always, right, always. And that's, that's the important thing that's never wrong. You know, if asking a question shouldn't lead you without any facts to an absolute opinion, right? But it should always be there to ask always. It's never wrong, no matter how crazy,

how fringe, was it all planned, was it all fake, you know, that's always, it's just weird that we live in a world where you're, like, not supposed to ask something that's possible.

You know, ever, no one, if no one says impossible, it's just, your, that's conspiracy, it's unlikely,

you know, historically, that's the opposite as well. But, so let's, I was going to start with, let's, let's start with the false,

flag events part of this first, since that seems to pretty clearly kind of connect to this part of it. So you might have seen out there the conversation about the alleged terror plot on the U.S. based in the U.K. I'll go through that quickly. But there was another event we'll come up to next that was about, here I'll bring this up so you can see the show too, was about a recent event that I saw that stands out of a pilot being stabbed by the co-pilot. And this is being framed as like another 9.5. 9-11 attempt by Israel, even though that's not how it started. So I feel the timing of this is a little bit suspicious, right?

So this, first of all, was the show we just did. It was on the 27th. Next one, I followed up with it as well. So for those that don't remember, it's very briefly, it was essentially three vans fuel to you that they said they couldn't identify, even though I found multiple companies with the similar, both in the UK and the United States, that were either the same name or similar. The point was that they say a random farming, a woman, a farmer, saw them.

called the number they gave them because there was already a big hype about there being a terrorist attack in this location. Nobody answered, which makes no sense. Then apparently says that at night, she saw them Middle Eastern looking men, even though they're wearing masks right into the woods, even though she said later that some of them ran in the woods, some of the around toward the base, which makes no sense. Then 15 minutes later, by all accounts, they show up and somehow they're still there to be arrested. I mean, it's just laughable, right? I mean, at the very least, it is not what we're being told, but I feel like this is clearly indicative of some kind of an organized event. Now, it could be that it's an outside, like this is something Israel was doing that they were

aware of. Maybe the UK wasn't involved. And don't forget that Trump right out of the gate says, we were involved. There was an operation. And we've been watching them for a while. Good job and worked out. And everybody else since has said, nope, there was no intelligence. There was no operation. Trump's, I don't know what he's talking about. That woman showed us this and it saved us. And it's just fucking weird. And now on top of that, Rubio, after all that information comes out goes it was a foreign actor even though there's no indication of that whatsoever and then on top of that the UK is now saying it's a strong indication Iran was involved with that whole thing so I don't know what your thoughts are on all that that's just what we already know

it's fucking very weird to me and obvious well there's a strong indication though yeah yeah right so sources close to the president's thinking said you know did I feel like Like I've said this before, I'll say it again, I'm a, I'm now becoming a bit of a false flag snob. I demand higher quality psychological operations. This is insulting my intelligence to keep running these, these really like junior varsity level ops where, like, who's the target audience for this story? Is it somebody who is who needs to be convinced? Vince to sign their kids up for the draft in the future? I mean, is it, what are they going for? What does victory look like for them? If they pull this false flag off correctly, is it going to enrage the people of

the UK? Is it going to make them think that there's invaders? I mean, hell, of course there's invaders. They're looking at them in their classrooms and in grocery stores and their entire country's been reimagined with invaders. So it's not like all of us. sudden there's a there's a Islamic looking man and we ran him into the woods it's like there's your entire country has been subverted over the last decade there's Islamic looking man everywhere this story is very disjointed and doesn't really make much sense I'm trying to just figure out what do they want like if everything goes well how are we supposed to feel about this are we supposed to feel like oh shit we have to go to war now they've broken into

a U.S. Air Force base. Or not. They were outside the fence, so they hadn't done that yet. Well, they were, yeah, but yeah, they were going to, though. And, and, and, and then what? Right.

Did they, what did they have with them? Did they have bombs? Did they have listening devices? Did they have a map? Did they have shovels? And like, like, it's a Bugs Bunny map with like, where they were going to pop up in the inside. I mean, what is elaborate?

And the fact that they're just like, oh, you know, it was. these, you know, they're very vague about it. It's like, no, no, no, give us the details. If, if this is a real thing, this should be front page news. The fact that you're sort of half-assing it a little bit because it didn't hit, right? It's like they didn't workshop it properly or they didn't run it by the test screeners. Hey, how does this play with them?

I mean, to me, it stands out almost as if like that that's the point is that this was an attempt to do something like just off the cup that didn't involve everybody. or at least somebody that was of present wasn't aware that they were supposed to to because the end of the day they said they were kind of driving around for a minute, you know, like getting attention on, like it feels as if they expected to be let in or something. Like, you know what I mean? Like it felt it just didn't line up that way. But I, you know, to me, it's obvious that this is either something that went awry, like because somebody wasn't involved or like that this was something that was done

to get this kind of response. Like I just can't believe that it was just that in common. I mean, I can, but it's like, it's hard to believe, you know. But I think the point about the UK and who it's driving at is, oh, before I forget, actually, I forgot to say this in the beginning. They said there's no viable explosive after the fact, even though a Daily Mail reported the first time a cop said there was. So I guess you could argue that they did and they hid that, right? Like however you want to see this event folding out. But now they're saying there was no bomb.

There's no information. There was no, and no, what they say anyway, just they didn't find anything viable and then let him out on bail. And so remember, they said, significant event took place. And they're all Iran, all day, Iran likely. And yet they're out on bail. There's no evidence. So you have vans that pull up and the worry about maybe,

and that's a significant event. The point was it was obvious, like we've seen in the past, that the narrative was set, which is why I originally thought it was so clear, is that the media has this ability to just run with the narrative, even though the story changed. Like we saw this with Ukraine.

I said to Steve, remember what happened? right in the beginning. I mean, from left to right, fucking the entire media was reporting that tanks were rolling into Kiev. That didn't happen. Like, in the beginning of that, there were, they were way back on the line. But then why did the entirety of them argue that? Because I think that they expected Russia to run right to.

But that's not the case. Like Iran did not close the straight like they wanted them to, but yet they all reported that. Right. This is the same kind of a pattern. And so I think they just were like fucking, you know, they ran with what they were expecting to report even though it changed. And I think that really speaks to a coordinated event that went awry if I had to pick, you know. Last point.

I do want to say, though, I think it's important to highlight this. I agree with your point you were making that it's obvious that there's been a manipulation of immigration and people. But, and I know, I know you want to know that invaders in the term being used is not, I wouldn't argue you're using that maliciously against people that are being manipulated, right? Oh, no, no. They, they, that's, I mean, it's that it's obviously being framed like that. That's what I want to say, is that ultimately is that I, that what we're, what I'll speak for myself, but I believe we're on the same page,

is that what we're talking about is a manipulation of that and it's being done. There's no question there. Like in a, not in every single facet, but it's being manipulated, driven. I mean, we could talk about that other small caravan that's being, I guess, almost misrepresented now. But my point is that I'm of the mind by and large that they're just random people that are being used. Within that, there's probably elements of intelligence. I think it's always kind of the case no matter what we're dealing with.

But I think it's important. to see that as not like they're not invaders their ones being taken advantage of it'd be the government using them in that way even i think right but i just want to make that clear because that's important the way that that that is seen you know it's a their tool i mean they don't they they maybe don't even realize how they're being you manipulated in it and and possibly don't even care maybe in some respects it's like fine manipulate me use me move me into this western country that's way better than where i came from like because of our policy right that's what that's what that's what Because you bombed the shit out of my home country.

Now it is awful. I can't live there. I got to go somewhere. Oh, you want to move me into your country? You're using me? Well, then use me then. Because you already done destroyed my house. So like, you know, I might as well get something out of the get.

No, I'm not. I don't, look, I don't blame the people for coming. That's what I would try. I want to that. I mean, you, you. I mean, again, if you just look at where they're coming from and look at the American empires tinkering in those countries. I mean, they line up identically. I mean, it's not like these people were having like a calm, peaceful life and just decided arbitrarily

to pack up and leave where they were living for generations and generations and moved to someplace they're unfamiliar with. They did it because they don't have any, there's nothing to stay for because we ruined it. And we can all agree that there are examples of manipulation or people that are dishonest. I mean, that's the reply to any ethnicity, any religion, any good people. Right. But what's important, though, is that this is being done, you know, and I think what happens is that, like, the partisanship, where UK, anywhere else, gets turned to focus on the tool, you know, whether knowingly or not, instead of the one wielding it, you know. And that's so important to see in all this, because then it drives like this racial hatred towards people who, you know, like aren't necessarily the actual problem, like in the sense of what's, you know, that they're, and I don't even out of top of that, there's probably also people that are there that aren't necessarily part of any of that. of their own accord that just wanted to be there that went through the right process but yet it all becomes one blanket you know and that's just that u.s uk it's it's very prominent right now and i think that's a problem you know like what what's his name um like tommy tomby tombsonnie kind of

framing of a problem that we should be discussing you know right that's how that works out that's how you do it um i uh it's just that i've been writing about this um in the new book. There's a, there's a chapter I did called Trust the Plans where I get into all these plans, the Calergy plan, the Theodore Kaufman plan, the Louis Nazir plan, Morgenthall plan, Clower and Piven. And it's like, you know, like, the stuff that's happening isn't like accidental. You know, it's not like, oh, like, I'll just randomly woke up because, I don't know, because we're in the age of Aquarius now or something. I don't know. No, it's being done because these NGOs who have a lot of money and have an understanding of what they're, you know,

how to destabilize a homogenous culture of Western Europe and North America, like, there's a lot of money behind it. Like, it's not accidental as being done on purpose. And, and it's been in it, and by the way, it's nothing new. These plans, these were, a lot of the plans I just mentioned were, like, the Theodore Kaufman plan was 1939. The war was in the first year. They were all we were plotting out how they were going to liquidate the German people and divide Germany into North and South Germany one year in, you know, and they were comfortable doing that because they were working off some advanced information about, you know, like the direction that things were headed and what was going to happen in the aftermath of the wars.

Yeah, it's a common story. I mean, you can go back to Zabig new Brzezinski in the Balkanization of the Middle East, which is driven everything we're watching right now. I mean, not by itself, but clearly the Zionist agenda is right in line with that. You can argue it's one and the same. But it's just, you know, they designed this. They plan it out. I mean, this is why taking a small shot of it like in Syria where the Kurds play a role because they're going, look, we'll carve this out and we'll give you courage stand.

Now you play your role, you know, and then nine times out of 10, they get screwed over and they still somehow keep working for the United States. I don't know why. But, you know, it's the same thing within Iran. I mean, we all, it's like, it's weird how we can have this admit, you know, Trump, Pompeo, Netanyahu, openly saying whether Kurds or other elements or having Massad marched next to them on the street, that they did that on the ground in Iran, that they arm them, they put weapons in there. And yet we, you know, don't obviously acknowledge that was an orchestrated event. You know, not to jump into that entirely, but it's just like that's how that's

all utilized, you know, these false elements. But it's, you know, and think about it like that on top of it, we're talking about false flag events. And, you know, I mean, not even just not the Israel, what we'll get into after this, like the fake company elements in Israel with their intelligence, setting these things up, just the idea that you can have these groups, proxy elements that they are funding that are scattered around that can be conducting any type of events, you know, and that's that and it can feel like something other than what it is. I mean, Israel has a long track record of dressing up like Palestinians, using people that it looked like or are Palestinians to conduct acts. You know, it's not as common as it was for a while, but it's still there. You know, it's important to think about.

Yeah, I put, I want to read this quote I put in, um, in the book. And you can find a video of it because it's a well-known clip of Barbara Lerner Specter. You probably are familiar with her. She's an Israeli academic. This is from the Israel Broadcasting Authority in 2010. It's important to recognize 2010. So 16 years ago when she said this probably sounded a bit unhinged, but now given what we are living through, you'd take a listen to this and see if she wasn't on to something here. And this is part of the reason why a certain group is getting blamed for this stuff. Quote, I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time, Europe has not learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be a part of the

throws of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be a monolithic society that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It's a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive. Interesting. And so how do you feel, do you read that as like,

well, I would hear that as sort of like rationalizing what is the kind of Armageddon prophetic design on how this goes, like the collapse of the West, which I'll play this clip, is that how you feel it as well or do you feel like that's sort of the opposite of it? Because you could read it that way, where she's sort of saying, unless we do this, that's what's going to happen. Like, how do you read that?

Oh, I read it as a threat. Yeah, that's my gut. It's a straight up threat. We are doing this. It's coming. There's nothing you can really do about it. You're going to hate us for it. We're going to be resented for it, but we're doing it anyway.

Well, because I guess, and I agree with you, but I guess the feeling is that the argument from, especially from like the religious Zionist perspective is that this is the after it, immigrants flood the West, essentially, that it will collapse, right? And so at the end of the day, it's going to collapse. So the argument being if you don't do this, that you're going to collapse, it's already going to happen either way. You might argue it's sort of like trying to stave that off. It's the only reason I wouldn't possibly see it that way. But I agree with you, the most likely. It goes back. Here's, here's, this is from Calergy himself. Now, Calergy, who wrote the plan, also was the head of the, essentially was the precursor to the EU for 49 years, right? So this was a guy

who was in a position of power. And this is his elevator pitch. And it is insane. But when you hear it, you know exactly what his plan is. Okay. And this is what he said. We intend to turn Europe and North America into a mixed mongrel race of Asians and Negroes ruled over by Jews. Pretty simple. It's not my words. It's not my words. And that's got from, This isn't a guy who just got hammered at a bar and is like, you know what we should do, guys? This is a guy who is in charge. And he would be in a position. He was the precursor of the EU.

I mean, they know, he understood the plan. He wrote the plan. Now, people can deny it or people can say, oh, it's anti-Semitic. Right. Whatever. Fine. Sure. But it doesn't mean the plan isn't real.

It doesn't mean that they weren't actively trying to put some of this into place. Well, the point to me. is that, you know, it gets disputed in that way for a reason. Because the point is like, look, we're not trying to get into the persons in mind. And it's it. The person exists. This was real, right? The idea is, I can be objective and say that doesn't then prove that the Israeli government

believes that or that everybody else believes that. But then you can step back and acknowledge the hundred other examples of those barely officials right to this day making very similar statements about exactly this kind of end point. And so it's just kind of deductive logic. But to be objective, you could argue that that exact plan is not what they're doing. but they're religious, you know, like you can, let me play this clip again. This is something that, and that goes, I forget when it was actually made, but it's,

Adam Green made a compilation of, and to be clear, these are rabbis. They're not political leaders in the sense, well, you know, if you understand, it's funny how they accuse Iran of being like this theocratic. Like, it's so obvious that Israel is exactly what they accuse Iran of being, by the way, despite how they frame it, you know, so the point is, these people have political power, but in the sense of just being on the, they're what their position is, They're rabbis and not politicians, but it shows you a very core belief from the religion, which we know is driving these politicians.

They stay at themselves that this is how this has to go. And I just find this to be very important. So hearing what I all said right there and being objective about it, that's important, this is what they're saying, and you can't deny this. At the end of days, you're going to need the iron of Hesav, which represents a dome, which is the West, Europe and the Americas, to get, intermixed with Yishmal, which is basically Arabs and Muslims. How in the world was this ever going to happen,

if not for this refugee crisis? At the end of days, you're going to have this intermixing between Esav, a Dome, which is the West, and the East, which is the Muslims and the Arabs, making this through this influx into the world. They're going to have a far larger birth rate than the indigenous people there, and they're going to sort of conquer, conquer by number. And there are many different sources for this where there will be many, many people killed

and so on and so forth. So the idea of having these refugees come into Europe, it's no longer a matter of whether it's right or wrong. It's just simply a fulfillment of what it was meant to be all along. This is the fulfillment of the Rhezah and the prophecies. This has to happen, and this is just another sign that we are nearing, you know, the completion of the stiquant of the entire world. But we know one thing, right, that when it comes to the classic Rome, you know, which

because Europe, they're finished. And you don't have to be a profit or a great analysis for that. You have to open the view, the TV or the Internet, and see that exactly what was prophesied then, that the sons of Ishmael are going to cause havoc around the world. So France is completely barbecued. England is next. Now half of Europe is completely half dead.

Now look what's going on in America. So, you know, now in a country near you. what's going to be with the goyim when shea hams will they be destroyed and annihilated someone asks who cares okay as a nation they'll cease to exist even as individuals every individual those survivors not only as a nation they'll cease to exist even as individual in modern terminology they call it cultural genocide they'll be annihilated of a slent as a they basically learned there's going to be cultural genocide that you know what the

The goyem as they exist as goyem. That's done with. Bottle of votal. And what's important to also point out is I can give you tons of examples, both in Israel and out, of Orthodox, Jewish, rabbis and others that do not agree with that. And in fact, call it Zionism every day. Always important to point out. Now, I will argue it's very clearly, especially in Israel, you know, the majority is on that.

I mean, you can see it just by the majority of Israelis that seem to support the ongoing genocide. but understand that there are not, you know, there are people, and it's a pretty large amount. It's a serious minority, but it's not a small group that does not agree with this. But I don't know how you can pretend out there that that's not a real point, you know, whether it's being driven entirely from politics or not, it does have an effect. And that's why I think this is worth pointing out, I'm sure you've seen. U.S. troops told Iran would bring on biblical end times. Here's military.com.

Lawmakers want DOD. Hegset investigated for telling them they're fighting for Armageddon. There was hundreds of people who complained about him saying this. And yet here we are. It's almost undeniable. But are we surprised with Pete Heggzith, who is just like a photocopied version of a real person? You know what I mean? Like a real embarrassing. You know, he's supposed to be this like strong family guy.

Doesn't he have a lot of like, he's been divorced a bunch and had like a bunch of cheating. skin. He seems like a real scumbag to me. Like not the type of guy that you would elevate. But maybe he looks good on TV, right? And he can sell the war and he can go do his general patent speech where he like walks up and down the stage, like he's a like a cage tiger or something like that. I mean, I don't know who's buying this anymore. We're getting our asses kicked in the Middle East by Iran.

It's tough to watch this sales pitch. I bet, I mean, it's tough for me. me to watch it. Imagine being in the service in seeing this and just go, you're going, dude, what are you even talking about here? And by the way, I signed up to defend my country, not fight for Armageddon for Israel. Sorry, I'd like to read. You guys have renegotiated the terms of my service. And I'd like to check out of this. I mean, not that you get that option, of course, but. Or, but I mean, I agree with you. That's that, but like, what if, you know, there are people that even believe they should be fighting for Israel.

And but that's even worse. What I mean, though, is that like in the sense that it's like, imagine being in that position and just feeling like, okay, you're telling like, it comes down to a, like, you know, whether you believe in, in God or religion or not, the idea that you're arguing, you're fighting for an end time scenario out of the Bible is, it is, it's crazy. Like, even if you actually think that's happening, that's a crazy reality. It's crazy when it's especially not actually what's happening. And so, and my point is that from top to bottom, people,

people in this positions are going, what? Like, that's crazy. Like, that's outside. Even the ones that are religious are now, like you're saying, are saying, well, so why are we doing that for Israel? But it's an interesting spin on all this, but it's amazing to me how little coverage it's gotten. In fact, check this out. Oh, that's, we'll go to that next. Go back to the search.

I just find this interesting. I'm actually surprised atlitary.com. That's one of the main ones you'll find, but you won't find this really being talked about in mainstream media. Why is that? Think about how crazy that is. That should be a, like, a major story that would say how crazy it is, because there's a, there's kind of a, you know, circle the wagons, kind of a mindset when it

comes to even the corporate media, even the ones they pretend that hate Trump or left right, you know, and we see that often. That worries me with that topic. I'm, if you, have you ever heard somebody that high ranking in the military talk about a strategic goal that was that very, that very? vague and I mean he might as well say we're we're spreading freedom and democracy. Right. It's the same thing.

It's it's just like no, no, no. I need to know what the plan. Who's the enemy here where you want to bring on end times? What does that mean? Yeah. First of all, you're blurring the line between like military strategy and biblical stuff. And that's, it shouldn't should never happen. But this is a guy I need to be like sharp and and a tactical.

genius in a wizard when it comes to battlefield. I'm not that I'm anti-war, but I mean, you know what I mean? If you're in that position, that's what you should be. Not some guy who's who feels like he's being guided by his kooky religion, who's telling him that the invisible man in the sky wants him to create a situation in which billions, if not billions of people die so that something else can happen. I mean, that's a guy you should lead away in a in a strait coat. after that, you know what I mean? Like he should be fitted and put into a padded room for talking about stuff like that. You should be relieved of duties immediately for talking about crazy state. Could you imagine Colin Powell told some whoppers, but could you imagine him coming out and

trying to sell Armageddon? You know, we've got the, you know, the anthrax and, you know, it's going to be Armaged. What? Okay. I mean, I don't know. Go ahead. I just, I don't know if this is a calculation that has been made that is like in order for, look, maybe Pete Heggseth isn't there to appeal to me and you. Right. Maybe he, maybe the miscalculation I'm making is that I think, I'm assuming that he's there to appeal to everybody and he's not. That's what I was going to say.

Maga, like that segment. It makes me think that they like overestimated or maybe they were misled by Israel, what seems to be their Achilles heel this administration, is that they overestimated the prevalence of like the Christian right or like how much that would affect what they would do. And then maybe even within that, overestimated how much of the Christian right would believe they should be fighting for Armageddon, let alone for Israel.

You know what I mean? Like there's all these different layers to it that might have just spun them out because I do think that they believe like the whole idea of Trump and stuff. I think he's starting to see through it now. But I think there was a point at which he genuinely bought into the idea that they were winning or that they got that people support. I think that was clear since January, February that people were already turning on. Yeah. This is a very unpopular war. Yeah. I don't even know what it is. What is it? They've all

called it a war for a long time now, even though they still go on that stupid. But, you know, I mean, I know there's some legality around that. Did Congress declare war? I was just checking. No, I mean, they just stopped caring about this. Even that whole like start pause argument where they could like reinitiate the 90 day. Nobody even cares anymore. They're not even, Congress was never truly trying to do that, I argue. We have seen some impeachment, I think 26 articles from Massey come out about Higgseth. That's good, I guess, but it's still Trump. It's the one driving it all.

Before I get past it, though, on top of what I just said, what's important to recognize is that both Hagseth and Rubio, I was trying to find the actual statement and article, but it is that I've just happened two days ago from Rubio. They're now coming out and saying Iran is fighting for some end times prophecy. Now, this is what's so crazy. and so obvious is they're not. Now, there are religious-led mindsets clearly from a political, you know, that's the whole point of their government and how that operates.

But as far as I'm under, I don't see a government standing there going. We're fighting for the end times prophecy. And we have to kill Israel to do that. But we all see Israel doing that. That's undeniable. Hegzat is telling the military that. So imagine how, I mean, just see how lazy that is. They both come out and go Iran's the one doing the thing that we're telling everybody we're doing.

I mean, how do you not see that as desperately incompetent or incompetently desperate? I mean, it just stands out pretty strongly, you know? Yeah, it's low quality propaganda. I mean, this projection is so obvious that you're, you're, I'm embarrassed on their behalf since they clearly aren't concerned about the quality of their, of their, I think they are. I just think they're desperate. I don't think they know what else to do. And then their incompetence plays a factor where they just like,

you could just mix up your lie a little bit. If you're going to whole cloth lie, just fucking mix it up. I should be cussing. They don't. Accus your enemy of that which you yourself are guilty of his is like, it's classic. It's a classic.

And it works. I'm not trying to give him ideas, but it works better if there's a little bit of a gray area there. But when you accuse your enemy of something that your enemy would just never do ideologically, let's say. but everybody knows you would do it, that's not the time to dust out the projection.

That's the wrong time to you. I'm not, you know, I mean, go ahead and do it because you look stupid. But I mean, if you want to do it effectively, you do it where the water is a little bit already muddied and maybe a case could be made. And oh, yeah, well, maybe the guy did do it. And with Iran, you just go, it's such a, it's a preposterous argument coming from you guys who are clearly on the end times kick you guys have been talking about this like here's the mirror like it's not even it doesn't even move the needle in terms of in fact what it does is it just

it's it sort of just makes it embarrassing like you guys trying to lie about this stuff again like that's an interesting take why would you be trying to accuse somebody of the stuff that you're involved oh i see i see who so this backfires too a lot of the times and people that that are paying attention to it um yeah i mean again you can do a great job with deflection. Hillary Clinton's like the queen of that. But right, but you've got to make sure that you're not just right there standing in a glass house, you know, because it's just going to be obvious. Well, it's, it's a, you know, I mean, if I had to really break this down on why I would think, like, Higgs-Sack, let's the first one I saw do that, which might, and might be why they're now

trying to keep that narrative going. But, you know, so you come out with a narrative or like an idea like we just talked about where it's, okay, well, the Christian right is the one that matters, Turingport USA, and maybe that had a major effect, by the way, on how that went forward. But they go, so we'll sell the end times, you know, because that's what they all want. And then, oh, you don't want that? Oh, then Ron's doing it. Like, that's literally that I probably, like, there's probably more steps in there, but it's like, that's what we've come to expect from these people. And honestly, from Israel post-October 7th, in a very, like, just bombastic display of doing

things like the, oh, look, here's a mind conf in the Palestinian home. Oh, look, here's instructions on how to rape that's actually not at all what that says, you know, like very bad propaganda. So I don't know. I mean, I still go back to that and go like, were we supposed to see those things? And I don't think so. I mean, that's hard to mind around because of the narratives, but I think they're just clumsy or desperate. I mean, that's what I've been saying for a while. Well, when the CNN reporter sniffed the backpack in Syria to make sure it had chemical weapons on it, I knew they were sending their best and brightest right then. Right, right. And I mean, I honestly, I haven't seen her since then. I've never really followed

up on it, but I wonder if you would just like scuttled. It would be really funny if you're like, oh shit, you actually did die. Oh, well, my bad. No, it was like, I thought you meant like, oh, so you're joking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just one of those things where, you know, Exhibit A, the media lying again. How many times do you need to see it? But the thing is, I also have to remember that for some people, it's the first time

they've ever considered that the media is lying to them, you know? This is like, like, oh my goodness, this is crazy. You caught them in a lie. It's like, we catch them in lies all the time. Is this the first time that you've ever considered it? I mean, I suppose depending on your upbringing and your demographics, like maybe you still think the news is telling you the truth. Or maybe you think that they're like a little bit partisan. Like they lean towards the ride or leaps like, but you've never considered that they are in some cases just completely fabricating the news.

Like none of this stuff is really happening. Oh, get out of here with that. It's like, well, I mean, nowadays, how can you live and not have questions? about the quality of your news. If you're getting it from mainstream sources, I mean, or anywhere, you know, I mean, that's the whole point is that we should be questioning these things,

even from a benign kind of passive way. Like, maybe they made a mistake. Maybe they're wrong and they don't know it, you know, or maybe they're lying to us. Like, that's just basic, you know, and that's, but we've all been there. You know,

we all had that moment, whether it was when you were 10 or when you're 45, when you go, oh, you know, who knows why it takes that long for some, but it is happening, you know, and that's always what I actually point out

is what I think our main job should be is, you know, because a lot of this is, it tends to be sort of the community that, you know, which is still important to, you know, that we're informing and that we're making sure we all see, you know, that we're on the same page. But I feel like I aim more than ever, which is why I can be redundant. I think that's important, even though it's frustrating for some to those people, you know, because you're adding to the ranks, man, you're adding to people who are critical thinkers,

you know, and you reach that person and so you can walk them into that larger story, you know, but that's why I also talk about like the minefield, you know, where once you have that moment where you go, oh, they're all lying to me, there's like a thousand, you know, you know, new media things or, you know, where they want you to step one step in and go, got it, now I see it all. And you're just in the next layer of the lie, you know, and that's always there. And so that's why forever question everything. That's just how we have to do that going forward. And on that note, the next part of this. And I do, you know, the timing just feels kind of ridiculous is you have this thing in the UK and the way that built up and the way that

it kind of ended, I guess. And now they're like foreign actors in Iran and there's no indication of that. So what are they saying? And, you know, I guess the other alternative, to add before we move past it is that there was actually the operation and Trump kind of is the one that bungled it. The fact that he was like, we did it, the operation. And they all went, Trump, you know, and scuttled that. I mean, that's certainly possible too. But this is another event that just happened yesterday. And this is the guardian. What we know, so if you'll hear of real, I'll just really quickly go through what it says, what we know so far about the alleged stabbing of pilot by co-pilot. So it says, one of the pilots of the plane flying from UAE to Israel stabbed his co-pilot and

and appeared to try to crash the plane. So we're told. A lot of this is completely unverified. All we really know so far is that there is some kind of an altercation between the co-pilot and the pilot. He, I guess, opened the lock on the door, which is allowed some people to come in and I guess stop them. There's a discrepancy on whether it was a knife

or like an axe they have there for like emergency stuff or even that it was nothing at all. Or I guess there was a stab wound. Like it's weird how much it's all up in the air, even the next day. A commercial plane traveling from Dubai to the UIE to Israel was forced to make an emergency, landing in Saudi Arabia after apparent brawl between the pilots prompted distress signals

that briefly raised fears of an attempted hijacking. And the way it all plays out is interesting. Netanyahu said that the flight of by pilots stabbed his co-pilot and appeared to be intending to crash the plane. Netanyahu described it as extremely severe security incident in his Israeli official identified the attacker as an Omani national. The pilot is an Indian citizen, but I guess that's still up in the air, hasn't been verified. A passenger on the flight said, and this is Miriam Shira, Ohio, Ohio said, quote, the co-pilot tried to murder the pilot

and basically carry out suicide attack on the plane. Now, as I'm going through this, that one, you know, anytime you get that like weirdly specific, like, of course it could be their opinion, but how would you know that it was a suicide attack and that they were going to crack? You know, it's like, eh, not extreme, but it stood out. Now then one quick follow-up on the next one,

it simply stands out to me. Where was it right here? Oh, well, this was simply, They're calling it a terrorist attack with, you know, of course, as we get from the U.S. too, that's it's advantageous for them to do that. What we know about the pilot who allegedly attacked his colleague after initial treatment, he was taken into custody by authorities in Saudi Arabia, but has not yet been charged. I found that pretty interesting.

No official confirmation on his citizenship. So just two more things to play here quick on the way out, but one of your thoughts on it before we move past that, you know? I find that standing out is the timing interesting. like I guess my gut would almost say that maybe this was just a random thing that they're now trying to frame as a terrorist attack, you know? But go ahead. What are your thoughts?

When Netanyahu is trying to sell you the narrative, it's tough, you know? I mean, he's got that guy and that guy is the plumber and he's really selling it. And I just go, you know what? I'm just going to go. I'm going to default to the entire story's bullshit. I don't trust any of it. Why are all the, you've got a planeful of Israelis that are all, doing interviews in English? Why? Why not in Hebrew? Unless this show is for the American audience,

which is probably what it is for. So I don't trust any of these people. I don't trust any of this. It all feels fake to me. I don't know. Maybe there was a real situation. But again, like you said, the description, it just reminds me of the guy standing on the street corner in 9-11. I saw the and then it came. And then they came down. mostly from a jet fuel for whatever the whole thing was. And it's like that was a uniquely specific comment that you, what are you? A structural engineer? Like that was a weird.

So the weird comments jump out because they should because you should be looking at this like some sort of investigator. You should be assuming that they're lying to you. And then just trying to figure out how and why. what the narrative is. I don't know. I saw what, I don't know, did you send it to me? Somebody, the video of the guy explaining how, you know, it went into a big dissent for 30, 29 seconds. Well, basically, as I understand it, and even with this, it seems like there's some dispute on the time and how, but basically that it was like 30,000 and dropped like 10,000 feet within a minute or two,

which is, you know, just explaining that for the people, it was like, it was just chaos, a chaotic, you know, there. Here were the oxygen mass. Why didn't they deploy? I haven't seen whether, I noted the same thing, but it might just be that it's not being noted because it's just an always thing, but I haven't seen any reference to that either. So these kind of events, as we both know, will flesh out, right, over the next couple of days and you're going to get those anomalous points where you go, oh, so wait, that didn't, like the UK point, right?

Where we're already two, three days past this and now they're going for an actor. It's like, well, they've already basically said that's not, you know, it ends up being the narrative versus the facts. and I think that's what tends to show how kind of clumsy all this is. But, I mean, again, the way it feels is that this was sort of an event that took place. And it could be driven by, I mean, listen, Oman is involved in the straight discussion with Iran and working out the Oman-Iran path that they're dealing with. Like, they're the ones negotiating and saying we're going to work out a path, you know, a straight discussion.

Either what those words sound confusing, of the straight of her moose discussion. And ultimately then let the U.S. decide if they want, if they're going to be involved or not. And so whether that might play a factor, you know, the guy there was another Indian citizen. Okay, if it turns out to be the pilot was Israeli, that might change something and why they was called an Indian citizen. I don't know. But here's the next anomalous point. Then I can't verify this just yet. But here's what Trump says Netanyahu told him.

Now, there is allegedly both a, I think, an employee and other passengers, which don't make sense to me how it all happened at once that I guess went in to help with what happened. But here's how Trump were later. Plummer, an Israeli plumber, never flew a plane, was really a plane. was rarely in planes, very rarely flew. What a coincidence? An Israeli plumber saw what was happening and strong, you know, when you lift pipe all day, you're strong.

And he saw what was going on, he heard the screaming. He was toward the front where you had security in the back, you know, you had security, and you had another flight crew. But they didn't have time. The plane was going sharply down at an unbelievable angle, so sharp that the rudder ripped off the back of the plane.

The plane wasn't designed to go at a speed anywhere near that. Well, we know that's just Trump doing his thing where he just makes shit up. You know, that happens all the time. I haven't confirmed that, but it's certainly possible. And so it was well beyond its limits. And he ripped with the G-forces as they were,

he ripped this guy out of the seat, threw him back. The crowd got him, the passengers got him, grabbed him. And having never flown apart a plane, he took the stick, lifted it up. and leveled out the plane before it crashed.

Now, this is the story that I heard. I don't know if it's true. That's wonderful. I'll help you out. It's not true. Yeah. It's not true. Well, I mean, what the article says is that the other employees, which would make far

more sense that the people that actually work on the plane who might have some knowledge stepped in there and did that, right? But even the idea, I mean, think about the idea of like, why is, why is, why is, Why is it he's never flown a plane before? It's like that feels you don't need that to make this story. Maybe that's what makes it the fact that it's real. But an Israeli plumber who's never flown is the one that saves the day of a flight that's supposed to attack Israel. I mean, it all just feels very constructed, you know.

But again, you could take away Trump's narrative that Netanyahu told him and it could just be a, you know, two pilots that hate each other that got into a fight. Tap before, you know. How'd this guy get into the cockpit doors after they were reinforced and everything after 9-11? Did he have a code? His narrative is the pilot in the midst of the altercation was able to unlock the door because they were to fight and then they get flooded in and stop. But right now, it starts to tell, nobody's in charge of anything. It just doesn't, like, if this, like, same thing with the UK point.

If there was any indication that you thought there was actual, like maybe a terrorist attack, in the UK, for example, in the articles, they have the, which is insane, they have the right to hold you in their minds for 14 days just to flesh out whether or not. with nothing, right? Just to make sure if they think terrorist attack under their laws. In the same thing here, do you think for one second that they would just let these people, you know, there would be more going on here, especially when it's Israel involved, guys. And I just doesn't make sense to me.

It doesn't, it feels like it's being used or there's more to the story, you know, so far. The Israelis would take the guy out and interrogate him in a way that the Israelis know how to. This feels, I'm not buying it. I just, it's Netanyahu, trying to sell in Israel. really hero story when the world hates them. It all feels very fake. Interesting, 9-11 connection. You know, the idea of being afraid to fly or that we're under attack or that Iran is surreptitiously.

Like that's always during these events, you know, they want to frame the other as like, you know, behind every shadow, you know? Like Netanyahu, we just did the same thing on 60 minutes. He held up the guy's phone and says, you're vulnerable. Well, yeah, because of you, that you're the leading and spyware attacker in the world, but they want you to think he's talking about Iran is in your cell phone. You know, it's like they're just projecting everywhere. And that's what I think it could be.

But again, my sense is that this, you know, it may flush out more that we get more information, but it feels more like this was sort of an opportunity, a moment of opportunity. They just took advantage of it because why not? And who knows, maybe we see more. But it was the timing to the UK event that made this feel like it might be more than that, you know, and I'm sure we'll find out. Yeah. Oh, man, I can't wait for that plumber to become like a big celebrity.

and have to tell that story over and over again and then get it wrong a bunch. Nobody will care, of course, in Israel. They'll just be like, oh, it's fine. Or it turns out that that's not even what happened. And Trump's, you know, like watch as today. It flushes out where it was like, you know, one of the stewardesses that did it and he was just there.

You're like, well, Trump is just, you know, who knows why he does this to himself? I just, I think he just, he has like a need to be in the center of the spotlight, to be the one involved to be, you know what I mean? And it's just a narcissism. It's like an insecurity almost for Trump. That's what I think that anyway. Because he constantly steps in things like this that aren't necessary.

You don't need to lie about this. You know, you could have left those parts out. But that's the trade of a true sociopath. It's like you don't need to lie, but you're lying anyway because you're just in a, you just are in a sea of lies. Your entire existence is a lie. Why stop now? But that's the story that I got from BB and leveled out the plane before. board crashed. Now, this is the story that I heard. I don't know if it's true, but that's the story

that I got from BB and from a couple of probably earlier. I don't know if you've heard. How much you want to bet the couple flip me, not true, right there. Like, I'm starting to like learn, and it's my opinion. Like, you start to see when he's like, like, fill in the blank. You know what You start to sense it. And so I would argue that Yahu probably told him that story and whether he had a or not. But just for fun, I think it's, I bet you that there's nobody else in that story. Oh, of course.

You know, he didn't want to said the thing to make it feel more real, you know. He's a liar. I know. He's an embellisher. He lies about his story. There's the guy who would lie to you about what he had for breakfast. Yep. True.

But that's the story that I got from BB and from a couple of probably early. I don't know if you've heard that story yet. I think it's an amazing couple of probably earlier. I don't know if you've heard that story yet. That was his answer. It's almost like you thought better of the lie. I was like, trail it back. Yeah.

So a plumber, never flew a plane, strong guy, lift him up, throw him back. The crowd was, was, they knew they were going to die shortly because the G-forces, but they were able to hold him as he was going. And by the way, as far as the story goes, it dipped and then leveled that. It wasn't like they were dipping the entire time as far as I can tell. But again, it's all the relay for the media. So maybe there's more accuracy to the fact that he was the one who pulled the plane up. It just doesn't seem like, you know, the corporate media is framing a lot of these things differently.

Just leave it at that because they lie all the time too. But it's interesting, the discrepancy. Like so basically what I understand is that they, you know, dipped like that. And then ultimately it was somewhat leveled out and he popped the plane open. They ran in and whatever else. Like that's, but again, we'll find out, I'm sure as it goes forward. I can't wait. I can't wait for the movie version of this. There's a movie underway that started three days ago.

Right. Yeah, exactly. It's already post-production. Right, right. And he was crazy. And this plumber never having, but they were able to hold him as he was going crazy. And he was crazy. Like, how would you even know that? Nobody has any into sight under what actually drove this yet.

And this plumber, never having flown a place, had the sense to lift a stick. Who were they? And you know, it's not like planes are different today. He used to have a little cereal. Today, they fly differently. I'm pretty sure that's not even remotely true. But like this is just a special case for him.

Like he just like gets in his weird mode of just like adding narratives onto the story. I don't know. I just think that's weird. He is the president of the United States. I know. He is sitting there making up stories. He's embellishing stories. He's talking about he's putting himself into the mind of this guy.

I mean, this is just so, does he think he's at the improv or something? I mean, it's very weird. And then all these people standing behind him like scarecrows. Weird. embarrassing. Well, I mean, okay, just in case you meant, I mean, I don't think planes started with steering wheels. Pretty sure they had sticks from the beginning as I remember, right? Listen, you don't know anything.

You don't know anything. I know everything. I'm the best. I'm the greatest. I know about airplanes. I invented airplanes. But again, I'm just,

that's just my, for all I know, he's right, but the point at the end of the day is that it's this kind of of rambling additional parts of the story that don't make sense that are,

you know, we all know, this is just who he is. It's what you do when you're telling a lie. Totally. You just keep, you keep adding and adding and adding.

The truth is, this is what happened, boom, boom, that's it. What about that? What else? I don't know. That's the truth.

The lie, the adding on and the thing, and he's so brave. And did I mention he's a plumber and he's strong? Remember strong? It's like, almost like, get out of here. Bibi told me the whole story. Oh, yeah.

Well, that's a great character witness. Bibi told you the story. Oh, well, then, okay, that's fine. And then we know it's true. I mean, God. And when I asked why he did that, he said he watches that show air disasters. You know the show? It's that crazy show.

I never want to watch it because I watch it. How much, just kind of having fun with this. right now, watch it ends up he has like some kind of investment in something or like, or something like that or something like that he just thought to add it in like that kind of joking, but we keep seeing things like that happen, you know? I don't like watching it because bad things happen, but he said he watches it a lot. And he learned from watching that show sort of had a fly. I mean, you tell me, this is the craziest thing.

And then shortly thereafter, the pilots, you know, were there in case to have emergency pilots on these planes and the security guys. But they were in the back of the plane. They came up, they took over the plane. Oh, okay. So the pilots who were already there let him land the plane and then took over. Pretty sure they don't just have emergency pilots on every flight.

Right. Or the fact that he said, I mean, think of the logic now as you end the story, the emergency pilots that just waited until the plumber got in, and landed and then they took over the plane. Like, I mean, it just, you know, the, again, we may end up and laugh about how it turns out to be real somehow, you know, but it's just a whole thing is just comically stupid, you know, and it comes back to the real, the point of the whole thing, which is that this is being, you know, being used already to say Iran, like, I mean, basically, weirdly enough,

Netanyahu is the one that seems to be going, we don't know yet, not enough information, which almost makes me more skeptical, to be honest, but Ben Gavir, uh, Israel, Kat, They're all saying terrorists attack, Iran, just like we get from the U.S. That's this very clear, you know, it's clear that's what's happening. Then to add the endpoint to it, James Lee pointed this out. It said this article, Iran says Mossad planned false flag aviation attacks to blame Tehran. James Lee says hours before the attack, Iranian media had reported an intelligence that Israel was planning to aviation attack before this happened, which is actually pretty common.

I've had that happen like probably six times in my history of doing this. where Iran was like the thing, or Syria. And you could always wonder whether that means that Iran was the one that carried it out, and you should. But the evidence is not aligned, at least in my opinion. And also worth remembering that in Volt 7 back in 2013, we discovered that the CIA has the ability to make it look like hacks took place from any state actor that they want to.

Right. Or in that very same release about like you could, you know, whether cars was a focus, but manipulate from the outside, a car, or plane or something like that. Yeah. That's worth considering too. Yeah. Yeah, very interesting.

Well, we're about past an hour, so I think we'll leave it there for today. I did have one of the story that I just want to put on people's radar that I'm probably going to talk about. But it's a Palestinian-born mosque leader is now, is, you know, basically a deportation judge, which is already being appealed, has ruled that a Palestinian-born mosque leader can be deported specifically on foreign policy grounds. He has no, he's up, he's completely unlawed, legally. here he's got no criminal record and simply because Israel accused him of basically,

long story short, just the simple point is he was imprisoned in 1988 and they claimed confessed to throwing Maltop cocktails and stones. In 1995, he was convicted and attempted to upholding weapons and ammunition. Both him and his lawyer and experts of international law have spoken up for him and said that he was coerced into confessing on both instances. And it's been roundly upheld. UN agencies accuse Israel detaining, coercing staffers into confessions is a very common story. So all said and done, the point is because Israel says he is a criminal and they have a long

track record of accusing Palestinians of false allegations that they're now trying to deport him on foreign policy grounds. So I just want to be able to know that this opens the door for people to be deported based of the fact they claim you are a threat to national security, which means whatever they want, not because you're breaking laws in this country. They're violating their own, you know, this is unconstitutional. But important to see the Palestinian focus. You know, this is going to be used to set a precedent.

I argue to turn this into people who then support Palestine or anything else. That's what I argue. But it's just off the rails, guys. You know, your constitutional rights do not play a factor. And he has them too, by the way. Illegal immigrants have constitutional rights if we still have failed to understand that in this country. But it's sad, you know, where it all goes. And all that ties back around with the ice and surveillance and the biometric things and their new agents they're putting in each location.

like this is building out in a terrifying way, man. Yeah. Yeah. Dangerous future for us. But it pays to be paying attention to it. Yeah, most definitely. Navigate yourself out of the way if you can. All right, we'll leave it there.

Thanks, Charlie. Anything else you want to leave us with in the way out? New book is out. The Octopus Population Control Forward by David Ike. It is available on Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and audiobook formats. And if you or over in Barnes & Noble.com as well, if you're interested. So hopefully people will check it out. Get through it.

We'll have you on. We can go through and talk about it. But I think you said on this show last time, but I'm honored to know that you quoted T-Lab at the end of the book. At the end of the book. Yep, yep, yep. Second and the last quote, you. Awesome.

Awesome. All right, guys. Well, thank you for tuning in. We'll see you in a couple of weeks. And as always, question everything. Come to your own conclusions. Stay vigilant.