The Last American Vagabond - What The Hell Is Happening w/ Charlie Robinson (9/3/26)

Episode Date: September 7, 2026

Twice a month Charlie Robinson and Ryan Cristián join forces to discuss the madness that is partisan politics, and the chaotic nature of the world today. They discuss current events, political machinations, foreign policy blunders, and just good old fashioned two-party illusion naivety. The conversations will be focused on whatever is most current in their minds as they do their best to decipher “what the hell is happening?”Source Links:(21) Forbidden HQ 🐇 on X: “Conservative Inc influencers after the group chat sends out the new talking points: https://t.co/5X9716p0x8” / XNew Tab(20+) Video | FacebookNew Tab(21) Politics & Poll Tracker 📡 on X: “US House passes legislation that blocks federal aid for colleges and universities if they engage in discriminatory commercial or academic boycotts against Israel in 237-169 vote. 33 House Democrats voted in favor, 2 House Republicans voted against. https://t.co/a5cSCKCTRI” / X(21) The Last American Vagabond on X: “You do realize this is NOT what Iran claims it’s fighting for. Yet we are told Iranians are the “extremists,” while the Israeli gov openly says they are fighting to bring about their end times prophecy, and Pete Hegseth told the US military that they were “fighting Armageddon.”“ / XNew Tab(20) Thomas Massie on X: “🔥Tuesday I tweeted Mike Johnson would recess Congress until after the election in an attempt to stymie our latest Epstein bill. Johnson went on TV adamantly saying that was STUPID and we’d work every day. Today he announced we’ll recess on Sept 17… until after the election! https://t.co/MwSsJKJ4oR” / XNew Tab(21) Daniel McAdams on X: “Late Soviet vibes. When it became obvious to everybody that the whole thing was an empty lie...” / X(21) The Hormuz Report on X: “BREAKING: Donald Trump privately admitted to administration officials that the U.S. can’t sustain the Iran war — and is now considering formally declaring it over, with officials saying he strongly favors the idea, per WSJ. The admission comes as Iran launched another surprise” / X(21) Mel on X: “The Jerusalem Post is now running editorials with ideas for how the Pentagon could recruit enough American soldiers to launch a ground invasion of Iran. They want to exploit the crippling debt young Americans are carrying by offering them a chance at forgiveness if they’re https://t.co/O6659GwWIu” / X(21) DD Geopolitics on X: “🇸🇾🇺🇸 Syria offers itself to Washington as a route to bypass Iran and the Strait of Hormuz Syria’s new government is pitching the country as an alternative energy corridor allowing Iraqi and potentially Gulf oil to reach the Mediterranean while bypassing the Strait of Hormuz. https://t.co/0jyU6v30lt” / X(21) Lowkey on X: “How the BBC reports the US bombing a wedding in Iran.” / XNew TabThe Kushner-Soros-Trump Connection & How Elitists Feign The Left/Right Divide To Control The MassesThe Kushner-Soros Money Trail That Nobody Talks AboutGeorge Orwell Quote: “If you want to know who rules over you, look at who you are not allowed to criticize.”Bitcoin Donations Are Appreciated:www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/bitcoin-donation(3FSozj9gQ1UniHvEiRmkPnXzHSVMc68U9f) Get full access to The Last American Vagabond Substack at tlavagabond.substack.com/subscribe

control exactly what people think and that is our job what the hell is happening what the hell is happening our homeway making things happen the world is our state what the hell is what the hell is happening what the hell is happening what the hell is happening what the hell is the best on the planet we're going to develop it's already happened we could step up the passion it's happening happening it's already the madness of the new cycle spinning the wheel of chaos Welcome back to another episode of What the Hell is Happening with myself Brian Christian and Charlie Robinson to discuss the madness of the political cycle and the chaos of the world today. How are you, Charlie? I'm great. How are you? Good to see you. I'm good. I'm good. You know, a lot of madness, but weirdly feeling positive. And increasingly so in certain ways, other global conversations I'm a little bit more worried about. But I thought we could start with something today that's been seen by, you know, 8 million people out there. It's been very clearly. gone viral and discussed online. And I thought it was interesting for a few reasons. I'm sure people will pick up on that we've talked about. One of which is because we've discussed, I guess,

the evolution of the political spectrum today and people seeing through the two-party illusion as I would see it. And it were specifically, as in a current moment, conservatives that are turning on Trump. And the question between, in my mind and what I've been trying to discuss, what represents the MAGA movement? Is it the people are, is it? Is it the people are, Is it the people that believe the, you know, the message that they now see Trump lied about? Or is it the people that still support Trump even though they know he's lying or they don't care or they can't see it? Because to me, I think it's clearly the people that actually still embody the message. And I find that to be the majority.

And so this is an interesting conversation to open with this clip. And if you have thoughts on what I just said, please go ahead. And then we'll play this clip and then talk about like where we see this and what we've talked about. And then kind of like what this shows in the conversation today. Ready with you? Well, yeah, there's a differentiation between those who acknowledge they've been had and those who don't. You know, the people who supported Trump and recognized that he's so far off course, and they're rightly upset about it, that those people have are in their own group. Now, I think that's MAGA. You know, I mean, I think that leans more MAGA. I think that I don't know, I don't know how you. I don't know how you justify supporting Trump where he is now because my assumption is you would have supported him all along.

You wouldn't have been a Democratic supporter. So if you supported him all along, he's clearly not done the things he said he was going to do. In fact, he's done the exact opposite. So where is your line in the sand for recognizing, okay, he's just, he's not going to do the things. felt you know what's the final thing for these people that they need to to see you know gotcha you know i lied about that too before they go oh yeah it's all bullshit because i don't know they're they're so bought in i think maybe that maybe also they assume that it's just a binary option where if you're not on the red team you are on the blue team and they're not going to be on the blue team under any circumstances because that's just completely incompatible with them. But they haven't fully recognized that there is an option of just getting off the Trump train at the next stop.

You know, you can do that. There's no commitment to ride this all four years unless you have programmed yourself to believe that at any point. Like, you can say, you know what, I'd pull the little cable and say, I'd like to get off this crazy ride. You're scared of flock cameras? You carry a cell phone with GPS all day. What's the difference? It's not a war, we're just bombing Iran. We need the data centers.

We have to win the AI race. Oh my God, shut the hell up about Epstein already. Gas costs more? So what? It's worth it if Iran doesn't get a nuke. If you've got nothing to hide, why do you care if they track you? America's finally great again. And I did check that that is the account that made it originally. I want to make sure the credit was to the person who actually made it first because

you know how this ecosystem works. Yeah. You know, it's just a, you know, the thing I find so interesting about this, you know, in addition to what we just discussed beforehand is that it's, it's manipulative. Because I feel like this, in my opinion, this is what the system wants people to see as one side. And just as cartoonish, they want you to see all. Democrats as the other, you know, he's been though there's a very clearly multifaceted varying, just, you know, like in COVID, not everybody fell for it, right? Like right now is we're going

to get into, conservatives are clearly as I think it's self-evident have largely, I think the majority turned on Trump. Now, that's my opinion, but I think that backs largely back that up. But so it's like, I think this is another effort of this, it not, maybe not who made it, right? Maybe I think we can get into both sides of this, but from a larger system, a establishment kind of perspective that they would prefer we lean into those very cartoonish sides and we divide so we can be conquered, you know? But the reason I wanted to bring it up in general is because of the point we discussed is like, you know, it's confusing for some people because clearly it's easy to go, well, the MAGA, you know, meaning Trump. So if you're in a way of just calling it like the Trump team,

it's like that's, I get why you would call it that. But the point would be make America great again. That's not what Trump is doing. That's what he promised he would do, even if we disagree with what he promised he would do. Like, we may disagree with what would make. America Great again or whatever. But nonetheless, he promised those things and a group over here, which I think is the majority of conservatives clearly wanted those things. And I think it overlaps with all Americans, quite frankly, with a lot of the things they discussed. And then suddenly he very early stopped. And then like you said, just like not only just failed, but like went the other direction, which is insane. Stargate, Lipase, P-PAS. And so what I'm highlighting is what

you were discussing as well is that I think that's what the MAGA, Make America Great Again movement is. But it's confusing for people, right? And so that point right there is, I would argue, following for what they want us to think it is versus what it actually is, which is unity amongst the American people seeing the problem. Even if it's only focused on one side right now, I think it will grow if we can keep the momentum. So, you know, what is your take on the whole thing? There's a spectrum to Trump support in a way that there hadn't always been. You know, it seemed monolithic and it points throughout the 10 years or so that he's been running for president or president. So now there's a little bit of a variety in terms of your level of support.

I would say that the MAGA people are a little bit more principled in a sense of they have an idea of what they think would make America great again. And this is not it. So there's some people who are on the Trump train, the cult of personality and on the winning team, air quotes. And so whatever Trump suggests, yeah, man, we'll get on board with the program. Yeah, flock cameras is not a big deal. Data centers are great. You know, because they're on that winning team no matter what. And they don't, so they're not principled in a sense that they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Flock cameras and data centers are like a bridge too far for me. There is no bridge too far. They want to be on that team. They perceive him as a winner. they believe what he says, you know, about the world in which we're living in. And for them to delude them, for them to ever break out of that would be to shatter the reality in which they've built. In their world, we are doing so much winning that you're sick of it.

You know what I mean? I think that's a part of it. I do think, though there are the uninformed, you know, or, you know, the Fox watching only people that somehow actually think that Iran's won already or whatever. Like that exists. I don't know how that's possible, but, you know, with all the conversation, but I do think it's part of it. But I also point out, and I would think you would agree that a part of there are people that

don't care are like, you know, I want money. I want power. I just like being a part of the team. I like dunking on Democrats. Like, you know, the varying thing. But I think that's the large, I think that's the majority of why people support any number of these things, you know, but you're right. There's plenty of them that actually just somehow don't see it.

But, you know, it's so interesting. And you're right, principle, it's being a principle is what it comes down to, you know. And there's an overlap there, maybe the first couple of months where people were like, oh, Stargate, you know, Epstein, or, you know, I guess that wasn't happening yet. But, you know, but I'm going to wade it out and see and eventually turn. You know, that's, you know, people can, you know, do what you want. But leeway is, you see how things flesh out is okay. But I think what we're seeing now is that clearly the majority of people are turning on what that is.

And I think that's important because it shows us a fundamental unity among Americans against the power structure suppressing our rights, not caring what we want. And I'm just hoping before we spin into the next election season that people can put those dots together and see that what we're talking about, you know, that MAGA thing you just saw is the same stuff we were seeing under Biden's administration pushing COVID shots, you know, and in a very different color, you know, or, you know, tint or lens or whatever. I just think that's so important. And I mean, on that note, do you think that what we're seeing from like the current like blind Trump supporting side is worse, more prominent than we saw

the blind Biden supporting side during COVID. It's just a different flavor, you know, which may be different topics, right? It was COVID, you know, but the, but the mentality is the same because the, the people are the same at their core. They're, they're easily manipulated. You know, they're up against, look, you're up against Tavistock and the mainstream media. and mind control and MK Ultra and the CIA. Like, they know how to work you. You know, and then and social media on top of that, I mean,

they can curate your world to make you believe that you're living in, you've siloed information about the way things work. I mean, they do it to the, it doesn't matter whether you're a conservative or a liberal. You can all be mind controlled the same way. I saw Jason Christoph, he did a presentation in, a Puerto Vallata for an archipulco and then I saw it again in Serbia. So, and he's talking about this. He's saying, you know, like the most susceptible people to mind control are the people who are like, I can not never be mind control. Right. So you've got the, in that cartoon, the guy is so certain of his

positions, right? It's the smugness of being certain in your positions that like, you know, you're, we all did that to be fair. But, but when you see. see it externally from somebody who you clearly is wrong but but smug in their wrongness you understand sort of like that looks a lot like the left you know that looks a lot like the loony left during COVID the during the you know you're going to kill grandma or you're a super spreader all that you know like it's not so much the party, it's just, it's the message. Well, I guess it matters which party is delivering the message, right? Because you want to get the red team to weaponize the conservatives. I think people assume, oh, the red team's going to go after the blue team. No, actually, the red team is going to

go after the red team because they trust them. Right. Strangely, naively, they trust them. And so, And there is no difference between the red team and blue team. They're on the same team. So their job is to is to manipulate the minds of the red team. And so that's what's going on right now. The blue team will get theirs because they're going to rotate back in in a couple of years because Trump is going to show that you can't vote for a Republican and you know, and you'll get endless wars and all this stuff.

And so everyone will swing back to the left. And then it'll be their time to get mind controlled like the MAGA people have. Yeah. And this is the best way. to see this in an easy like from what we've discussed you know a lot recently is is the the great reset time frame and you know and what we're seeing is exactly as you painted is during the COVID-19 or you know any other areas as well but you know during Biden's administration you clearly had them convincing conservative or rather Democrats liberals of the the necessity of all of those things and we're diving

in you know like you said you know got to keep us safe we can't you know your your health is my problem, you know, and now they have the Republicans doing the same thing, you know, getting them on board, but they don't, they don't see it. Just like I don't think a lot of them, well, actually, what's, I guess there is a difference there because in the Democrats, I think we're largely, like, supporting the idea of the Great Reset, where you have Republicans who are more doing so and unaware of it. You know what I mean? Like they've roped them in. But I like your point there is that I agree with you. I think that that's how that works, because they're more amenable to being, you know, being sold into the agenda. If you're getting, you're being led in there by a Trump that

you support or abide that you support that's important i think you would manipulate you would adjust the messaging based on the person so you you for the democrats the liberals you would go with suicidal empathy right that would be your target that that wouldn't work with the conservatives right you'd have to use something a different tactic to the end point result is the same yeah right right right well so to put to my question though i find this interesting and again we're both in the same stance when it comes to the fact that you know these it's irrelevant when it comes to the government and how these things operate people have their different varying opinions, but left, right, it's a tool that being used against us. So that being said,

I do actually think that where we are now, and I argue it would be this way, whether or not it was left or right. I kind of feel like this is the designed incline or either increase in chaos, but that right now it is more prominent. And I find it interesting. Like, and not just that it's more prominent, like we saw the same level of insanity. And in some parts of it to a higher degree during COVID, but what we're dealing with now is like, it's just everything we've ever seen, the problems, the lies, dishonesty, corruption. It's not just happening more. It's happening in your face on top of it. And I just find that interesting. I frankly feel like that's by design. And I want to stress again, that's not about Democrats better, worse, Republicans, better than that. It's nothing at all like that.

It's about realizing that this is an inclining scale. You could even go back to Trump's first administration and look how much crazier got in Biden. You know, it's like, that's, I think, the design, my personal opinion. But it's worth noting that like what we're dealing with is not a partisan point, to say, like right now this administration is probably more blatantly dishonest than anything I've ever seen in my life. And maybe that's living memory. Maybe there's examples before I was engaged in this, but it just has to be noted. You know, there's just an insane level of blatant in your face dishonesty. Tim Dillon did just did a bit like a month ago making that joke where it's basically like, you know, previous governments used to be like, you know, we're going to,

we're basically screw you, but we're going to lie and make you feel okay about it. We're going to convince you everything's good. Trump's just like, well, we're going to fuck you to your face and just shut up. You know, it's going to work out. You know, it's like, That's basically what I think people are seeing. I just find that very obvious. And again, that's why I think people, you choose not to see this right now. I don't know how you could ignore this. But we said that about COVID too.

So who knows? Yeah, I'm looking for a quote that I want to read that I don't know if I'm going to be able to find it here in time. But it was talking about, well, I'll be able to catch it during while you're talking. But yeah, it's an interesting time to be paying attention. I think if you're somebody who has. an understanding of psych warfare, you would see that this is, you know, that people are having their emotions weaponized in a way that was, I mean, I think you always sort of dreamed of doing it. And I think the government fantasized about doing it, but how they can do it with technology

these days. And more importantly, do it in a way in which the subject isn't aware that it's being done to them, right? The best mind control is the mind control that the person doesn't know that they're under, of course. And so that is, and once you take control of the mind, then you can, it's not even so much that, you know, you just limit their ability, limit the things that they choose to talk about. limit their ability their uh i don't limit their perception to the extent that you can and keep them in a bit of a cage now i'm you know because i've just been writing this book about eugenics and and and it's pretty dark but like you know they they they talk the stuff that they talk about a hundred years ago is happening right now and they were like you know it's crazy but like we we we

think that in the future, if we do it right, X, Y, and Z will happen and you'll be living in a world in which all these things. And it's like, we think it's feasible, but it'll take some work. And then you look at the date and it's like 90 years ago. And you're like, I'll be damned if they're not like right over it. So I think that we're in, we're starting to get into this, the quote I'm looking for is talking about how fake everything is. So I'll turn it back over to you and then I'll find this quote and blow your mind with it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, it's, It's, it's, that's kind of what people are coming to terms with in general right now is that this is artificial. That doesn't mean, you know, like, I mean, you know, you know, anything's possible.

It doesn't mean it's, you know, an illusory, you know, like it's a screen. But the point is politicians don't do what they say they're going to do. They don't believe what they say they believe. They don't fight for what they tell you they're going to fight for. And this is like one of the most consistent things in my life. You know, like in everybody's lives. You can prove it to yourself if you just go back and look. But there's always like, well, this happens. or they wouldn't let this happen or they fought that you know it's always an evolution of the I don't at this point I don't care the part the argument is the the people in power don't ever follow through don't do what they mean but it's more than that you know it's it's the institutions

out there claiming they care about these things that you know genocides continuing with nobody caring to stop it even though there's all this conversation you know it's just we live in it in an interesting time now what does that mean is it that there's a power structure that's infiltrated everything to control this and stop from happening it's certainly possible I I think it's a little bit myopic. I think there's a lot more to it than that, you know, but it's obvious that there is an artificial nature to what we're dealing with. And I think that speaks to something much bigger than just dishonesty and corruption.

So go ahead if you have the quote. I've got the quote. It's by a French novelist named Renaud Kamis. And he wrote a book called La Grande Replacement, the Great Replacement. And this is what he, this is not an old quote. This is a newer quote. But tell me if he's not right over the target on this. LaGran replacement is not merely about the replacement of some people by others.

It is also the fact that everything is replaced by something else. The original by the copy, the authentic by the imitation, the object by the facsimile, writers by intellectuals, literature by journalism, journalism by information, information by fake news, Venice by Venice in Las Vegas, Las Vegas by Las Vegas in a Spanish desert, or anywhere else. The fake is at the heart of global replacement. This is a world where everything is fake, where everything is the imitation of what things should be. So, have you read the book?

No. I'm curious what his point is. Like, what does he feel, see that engine towards? You know, like what's the agenda? Why would they do that? Oh, yeah. Well, I know, I mean, I know the book is like the force migration is happening by design. I know it's about that because there's another quote I use.

What I mean is to what end? Like so that, more so the artificial part of it, because I think we could, anybody could debate on what the internal agendas are around the migration, but it's kind of clear to some degree what that might accomplish. But the everything being artificial, you know, what it, do you, we could look it up, I guess, but I'm curious what he thought that the agenda was for why they would do that, because that's very difficult, obviously. And it seems like almost, uh, anti-human, if you will. I would say, if you were asking Yuri Besmanov, the answer would be demoralization. But see, that seems like a wild. grand agenda for just you could demoralize people a lot easier you know so it's like there's more to it you know but doesn't it kind of feel like that in the u.s i mean he's writing this about france or western europe

but but doesn't everything feel kind of like a photocopied version of itself totally that that's what i was saying is that it's like it's kind of like this nebulous hard-to-define thing but i agree you know i mean my mind obviously goes to the things we power structures and politics but it's like it's more than that fake food fake you know it's it's clear that that that is you know it's it's clear that that is something that is happening. Now, whether that's a coordinated, all-encompassing plan, that's hard for, you know, average people to think about. I obviously would consider that as a possibility,

but my mind still goes to, which it's never, when you don't know why, it's not a reason to dismiss an idea, right? Things happen, whether or not you know why they're happening. But secondarily, I think it's interesting, and it matters why they would try to accomplish that. Is it some kind of a larger idea of what they think is altruistic? I doubt it. But, you know, it's like they're,

I would love to find out more about that because that seems near impossible. in a sense of like, go ahead. What's that? Well, my, my, again, I haven't read his book, but my assumption would be depopulation as well. Because when you, when you, that's what they're into. You know what I mean? It's about, it's about managing the human herd. Sometimes it's managing their minds, you know, sometimes it's physically managing them.

He's writing this from a perspective of, I'm in France and it doesn't look like France anymore. and he's correct in that assumption. And you can talk to anybody who's been to London recently, and they'll tell you the same thing. It's like there's so many Somalis in London, it barely looks like Pakistan anymore. And so, you know, things have changed on purpose. And so you have to ask,

was it accidental? It can't be accidental, right? That everybody just showed up at the southern border, the United States on a single file line. No, there's coordination, right? We understand it. Right? That's an example in a short term.

exactly what we talked about. Exactly. Right. So, so you, you see, you see that there's a hidden hand at play here for sure, right? And so the, the follow-up question is whose hand is it? And why are they doing it? Right. So, so, well, we found some of the answers. I mean, it's Soros. It's the EU in that, that, that, in Europe, and it's Soros and other factions here in the North America. I mean, so, you know, if we dig in, we, we see who's, who's doing it. So why are they doing it? well, they're doing it to to mess with the homogenization of Europe, you know, like the ethnic cultural breakdowns in each country. They're trying to destroy that. That should be pretty obvious to anybody with the eyes to see it.

Be a little bit tougher in America, but they're doing it city by city. I mean, you know, you see what's going on in Michigan and Texas is being invaded and by not just Mexicans, I'm actually meant by. Indians. And so you can see it playing out here. And I just think, I mean, but they've done such a great job with the psychological warfare that they've convinced average Americans that it's disrespectful to ask any questions about this. Somehow you're a racist for even noticing that your city looks different. Well, but there is a double. There's two many different parts of this conversation. Like, first to your main point, I mean, I argue that this is a

tactic that's gone on weaponized migration for, you know, there's historical elements of it. You can go back a long way and see. Obviously, Israel is a player in that, but there's, that's my point is there's, I would argue the U.S., Britain. I mean, these things are, you know, common factors and how like the migration caravan for Venezuela very much was, you know, Rubio and the United States government and involvement at the very least. But like with Israel's point, and this is something they publicly stated, like their rabbis will absolutely, proudly discuss about driving migration to the United States in order to collapse the in the West for the end times prophecy so that's that's one part of a large thing but that is there right

and so with that known point it's like i don't see that as being the agenda is to like in that mind of it it's about creating the conflict to create destruction as opposed to it being like a like a woke democrat like you know because that's how some of the people in the political side in the country see it now is there an overlap with that probably but i think that's largely driven from similar agendas But I think what's important to point out, though, is that there is a manipulation going on around that secondarily, which is that there's no reason to hate or to demonize really even these individuals that are being manipulated to do this because most of them are not doing this because they're like, I'm going to go destroy the country. They're being played. They're human beings that are being manipulated into something. So make sure we first focus on the culprit who's doing that because in this country as well, we tend to focus on the people who are caught up in it all.

But secondarily, that individuals in these countries or in the states, as, you know, as dependent what we're talking about, are, you know, in many cases, not a part of some larger care of a, you know, so it's like what happens is baby in the bathwater kind of thing, where anybody Brown is suddenly now part of this problem. And that is us falling for the trap in my mind. But we need to also be aware of the fact that this is real and it is happening. And there is weaponized migration. And that's being done for multifaceted reasons.

One is obviously, like I just said, there's like a weird religious agenda. but then from like the U.S. perspective or other Western agendas, I think it's obviously about control, you know, and I think that's my opinion. I think at some level there people want to make it about like an ideological agenda. I tend to think from the U.S. perspective it's about money and control. And that's really about getting people in places where they can use these agendas and our cries for concern to then roll in something they want to use to surveil, to track, you know, to take away our rights. And so that's, I think all those things matter. But I do, I want to stress that the second part I mentioned is important because,

you know, these are human beings. It's not woke Democrat mindset to care about people and not and to not be an absolute, you know, I think that's the problem with the left, right paradigm is it traps people in these ideas where they ignore their own humanity, their own principles, because of the side, you know? Yeah. Good. All right.

Talk for a while. Well, they can't see that aborting babies in the 10th month is bad. Right. Because there's very clear lines about, well, but you know, here's the funny about that on that very conversation, I agree. And there's obvious, you know, it's, I mean, it's. mean, it's disgusting what we're talking about. But at the same time, we're talking about freedom and the ability to make these,

people need to decide for themselves what they think is correct. And the idea of saying, like, you're now this or I'm that because I disagree with your opinion is, I think also a trap. But then it comes to the actual act, which, again, that's a different conversation where, you know my opinion. But I just think it's dangerous to get into the idea where it becomes some like ideological difference based on a different opinion. This is like coming down to the idea.

And that's a very. extreme part of the conversation and to make that point. But like, for example, socialism, right? They're voting to, you know, make socialism, like we condemn socialism. And it's like, what are we even doing right now? You know, I agree government's bad. And I personally don't think socialism is any more dangerous than denocracy or fascism.

They're all a very big problem and all end up in the same place. But it's like, why are we now demonizing an idea? Isn't that counterintuitive to what we believe? And I personally think that in a very real, all-encompassing sense, applies to any idea. And I think that's where we need to get back to. As much as I have very strong opinions about some of these ideas. And I would, might as well, I might even act when it came to the action, but it's still important to think that the ideas, of course you're allowed to think that. You know, and of course we're allowed

to go, I think you're gross for thinking that. But this is coming from like a larger point, you know, you get what I'm saying. Like that whole communism thing is it's dividing the country and it's meaningless in what they did. And it's also counterintuitive to the foundational ideas of this country, you know, that we're supposed to be able to think and feel and stay what we want. long since been the reality, but it's important. Well, when you're talking about the migration plans and everything, there is, and like I said, I've been sort of all over this for the last three years of this book that'll be out next week. There is the ideas, the concepts for the forced migration is uniquely Jewish.

The people behind it are all Jews. So the Calergy plan, the Louis Nazir plan, the Theodore Kaufman plan, the Morgenthall plan, the Clower and Piven plan, one of them was it. So this is, this is what they write about, this group, right? They write about this. And in their writings, which I went through, they'll tell you what they want. Like, they will not beat around the bush with it. Here is, I want you to hear, this is from Calergy. This is his elevator pitch. It's very tight, but it is very insane. This is what he said, and it is 100% a true quote.

We intend to turn Europe and North America into a mixed mongrel race of Asians and Negroes ruled over by Jews. Think about how crazy that is. You know what I mean? So you could easily stand back as anybody out there and argue, well, that's his opinion and not everybody agrees. You're probably wrong, frankly, with what you can see going on. But that's fair to argue that. But what's crazy is you can't ignore that that's a real thing. And he absolutely believed that.

And that was, you know, and I mean, think of what's going on with Argentina right now with Donald Trump. And the idea, I mean, there's so many obvious examples that show you that there is a real part of these conversations. Now, on top of that you end up getting like cartoonish things that might get added on to it. I argue in order to hide the reality of the actual thing. But it's like, this is to the crux of what I was saying. And again, I want to be clear that there are other reasons and other governments. governments and, you know, agendas that drive weaponized migration. Like, I mean, to get into Syria is a whole fucking disgusting story about the idea of like

child trafficking and stuff. That's a real story. But the idea from this one is that, oh, I just lost it all of a sudden. The, oh, the idea of mixing the races is, is you could, I mean, I think there's a bigotry involved in there. There's a racism involved in that that can't be denied. But I think it's clearly from an agenda perspective. It's about driving an outcome.

So you can capitalize on it. Now, I also want to make it clear that I think that Zionism, as the driving force. I could clearly be wrong, but that is, that's largely Jewish and the understanding the conversation that comes from Israel. But there's also, you know, Christian Zionists that drive the same thing, worth pointing out, nonetheless, absolutely Jewish. That's important to point out. But my God, like that's so, it's how do we not factor that in, you know, from a, from a, well, I mean, here's the thing. I think it is being factored in from the majority of conservatives that aren't being highlighted with the spotlight right now. Would you agree with that? Like that's not being projected in the

main conversation. That's the reason why they're not being in the spotlight is because they believe that, right? Yeah, this is, again, it's not like Calergy was some guy who got drunk at a bar and spilled the beans to his buddy. The guy, you know, or some some idiot who's like, I have an idea. This guy was the head of the precursor to the EU for 49 years. He was in charge of the makeup of Europe. Right. So this isn't and this, this is the guy. You know, they said, oh, everybody'd have to be in on it. Not if you've got clergy in on it. You don't see, if you've got the guy at the top who believes this, you can get everybody else at the bottom. We would never do that. Meanwhile, he's the guy pulling the strings. Right. And Israel in general is a unique situation in this.

And you can see this globally where, and it doesn't have to be about Israel. The U.S. powerful governments can have a position like that. And through influence power like Trump is doing threats and. petty action can, you know, get large institutions and media to largely allow things and ignore stories. But Israel is a special case, right? Where you can have that example where suddenly he's pushing this idea and everybody around them can disagree, but they'll self-censor because they know the reaction will be urine anti-Semite. And that's, that's important to see. And actually, I have, let's us jump into that next, actually, because this is, it's important to see that this is happening.

You know, I did want to mention though, before we, I'm going to highlight what I've mentioned briefly, the voting for, oh, actually, I bet it was a different one I mentioned, but the voting to basically make it, what do they say, block federal aid for colleges and universities that they engage in boycotts against Israel. It's insane. Before we, that though, briefly, since you mentioned it, I want to get too far away from it. It's interesting you talk about Soros, is that the, you know, if you saw this article, I just talked about it last night, the Kushner Soros Money Trail from Israel-Palestine news. And it's very hard to ignore. And what it really cuts to the, it cuts to the, it cuts to the, the quick of the point that there is no left and right when it really comes down to the power

structure money and the larger agendas and what it shows you is that during trump's first administration all the way to the today by the way especially with besent involvement you know that you show that Kushner had financial involvement through cadre with the George Soros uh which one was it I don't want to misquote it with George Soros through his through his companies and so ultimately that showed that they knew they were interconnected and that's right to Trump's campaign where they then ran an ad with Soros's face saying global interests, even though he was directly tied in funding them. You know, they're not really fighting each other as the point. And so when you bring up the larger Soros connection to the global discussion, I think that's very relevant. You know, so it's not like

that's the secret left part of what's happened. It's a global thing today. That's my opinion anyway. And I think it's super important. Before we go to the Congress thing, any thoughts on that? I don't know if you've read the article or not. No, but I do. I didn't read the article, but I do have two thoughts on Soros since you mentioned it and since I've got my notes out here in front of me because I've got a couple quotes from Soros in my new book. He believes he's a god. Scary. And allow me to escape from mere generalizations here. Here's quote number one. It is sort of a disease when you consider yourself some kind of God, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out. That was in the independent in 1993. Here's another one.

If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control. Otherwise, they might get me into trouble. But when I made my way in the world, I wanted to indulge my fantasies to the extent that I could afford. I've never heard those. That's wild. That's from 1991 from his book, Underwriting Democracy. It's a testament to what we just talked about, too.

How can those quotes be there? And no, I mean, people, how would I not know about that? We talk about these things. That's an incredibly crazy. That should be popping up every time he search for his name. Of course not. I mean, and I've got more in there too. I don't have them in front of me, but I've put the quote in there,

the back and forth with Steve Croft from 60 Minutes when he asked him about, don't you feel any guilt? No, I don't feel any guilt, you know, about collaborating with the enemies and going through. So, I mean, I do this in this new book, and we'll come back on and we'll talk about it another time. but I do this in a new book and in something that I've kind of always described as verbal judo using the weight and momentum of somebody's words against them. Like, you know, Sorrow, this is, again, this is not me thinking that Sorrow said this.

This is from his book. Right. He wrote it in his book. I didn't, you know, I didn't go dig it up, have to go dig too far. But these people will tell you what they're doing. Some of it is like revelation of the method, karmic. disclosure, that sort of stuff. Some of it is just plain arrogance. And sometimes they forget that they're not around their people. And they start talking about things like the way you and I would

have a conversation and maybe like a third person sat down. You and I were just going off about how dangerous vaccines were. And this person might be sitting there going, what? You know, you might be like blowing their minds. And so sometimes they get caught up just, oh, what? Doesn't everybody know about the baby blood? No? It's a big joke. We'll do a Saturday night live skit about it. And then we'll just make fun of it. And then it's not a big deal. Right. So it's out there. Yeah, that you can catch these guys talking about their plans if you know where to look. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and I think that the Soros part of this, the larger kind of global point, I mean, I think the amount of things that people who want to can ignore is insane. Like, again,

the whole track record of Trump, this administration is comical. will be remembered forever, I argue, just this insane contradictory of everything he's done. But, you know, having dissent after the idea of Soros being something you used and having a direct connection to it is just kind of, it's, I want to stress again that what it really highlights to me is two things that they're ultimately when it matters, they don't care. It's about gaining what they can for the agenda, for their control, for their, you know, for profit. But at the same time that you can see a global agenda driving through Trump's administration from

the new Gaza, you know, Board of Pee, you know, to peace, the Gaza, you know, technocratic state, the idea of the new UN Security Council, like all these different things they're doing. It's important to see that. And I think that speaks to something that's not about left and right. You know, it's about all of them working to gravitate towards some kind of new control structure. You know, and we know, we both agree on this, I imagine, but people out there, I think, are still kind of struggling with the enormity of what that shows. Because, you know, our lives have been lived within this left, right bubble for most people and to finally start to break away from that is, you know, it's cognitive dissonance.

It's connecting, but it's important that you fight through that, in my opinion. it's essential that you fight through it because you've got to break out of the spell. You'll see it. Once you do, then it'll be like, I always describe, you know, the paintings that are like a bunch of dots and you like stare out. It kind of funny. Then you're like, oh my God, there's an elephant. Right. But once you see the elephant, you can always see the elephant in the painting, but you can be standing next to somebody.

And they're looking at it and they're going like, I don't see what you see. That's a great reminder to me that sometimes, you know, this is new for people. that if you've lived in the red versus blue world your entire life, it's like pulling somebody away and saying, you know, pro wrestling is fake, right? Like at some point you sort of make the connection and break out of that childlike delusion that you're like, oh, well, yeah, but I still enjoy it.

Oh, okay, well, fine. But you can still enjoy it if it makes you feel better. But I just want you to know that it's actually fake because you need to know that. Like it's fine if you're a kid and you're watching it and you don't know and it's good for entertainment, whether it's wrestling or politics or whatever. But at some point you have to grow up and you have to recognize it is what it is, but what it is is is not real.

Right. And here's a clip that I actually played last night. I think that's 2008 from her correctly. It's Freeland and Soros. I'm sure you've seen this. I think we all played at the time because he mentioned the New World Order. Interesting to think about it today. And especially with the obvious connections and

Trump's administration, but what he's saying is bringing in China. And I think it's being framed as sort of like China running the new world order, but what he actually says is have them involved with the new world order. I technically think that that's where this ultimately goes, even involving, you know, at least what some of these larger elements are trying, even with the United States, to create, which is that new global order. And I think that involves most of these players. I'm sure people would disagree with that. But here's what he said at the time. What sort of a financial deal should Obama be seeking to strike when he travels to China next month? No, I think this would be the time because you really need to bring China into the creation of a new world order, financial world order.

So I think you need a new world order that China has to be part of the process of creating it. and they have to buy in, they have to own it. And I think this would be a more stable one where you would have a coordinated policies. Given this continued weakness in the US economy, are people right to start to be concerned about the dollar? An orderly decline of the dollar is actually desirable. A decline in the value of the dollar is necessary.

transition of more political power. In order to compensate for the fact that the U.S. economy will remain rather weak. China will emerge as the motor replacing the U.S. consumer. So there would be a slow decline in the value of the dollar, a managed decline. So think about that in the kind of, go ahead. What's up? That's what Catherine Austin Fitz said, right? sitting in those meetings in 98 when they said they've made a decision to pivot to China.

Right, right. And I mean, and the point is to think about what not just is real, but we were discussing discussing that agenda through that lens. And the idea that what they're discussing is creating the collapse of the dollar, which is essentially the collapse of the West, rather of the United States, for the transition of power. Now, you could argue that they're just, you know, we're like, well, we share a similar agenda. Let's both collapse the United States. And whether they ultimately want the same thing at the end, what you could say about like the Silicon Valley technocrat types and what Israel is doing. You know, maybe they're all in line with the same point.

Or maybe they just see that they share a value when working alongside each other to, you know, it's worth thinking about that. But it's so important to think about that and that larger trend, like what we're watching, you know. Now he does say own it, but I don't feel like I take it as, you know, it's debatable on what he thinks and saying that China should like run it all, which I'm not saying is out clearly it's how they would see that.

But I feel like it's more about like the transition into that direction is how he's framing that. I find it hard to believe he would stay, you know, but who knows? Who knows? I do think that's where this ultimately goes. As any sense, it's not a, even the idea of like the Bricks point, it's still, I argue, will eventually boil down to something at the top. And that's how these things always operate in my opinion, you know? And so whether there's China or anything else, it's all just as concerning to me. But I think that's where this goes. I mean, any thoughts on that before we jump into the next. He who has the money is in control. And China controls the bank that, you know, the Shanghai banks. The, the, the, the, the, the, the. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The.......................... The banks that are used to finance the Belt and Road initiative are all running through China. And of course, I think that. But my one question is, it's one thing to build a new world order when you're dealing with Anglo factions, right? Western Europe, North America.

But what about the Chinese? Are the Chinese just from a cultural standpoint? Are they inclined to be a part of somebody else's group? Because this is a country that really has sort of minded its own business and sense of not being on a land acquisition grab, like the way some of the nations have over the last, you know, I just wonder if culturally, they're ideologically aligned with a new world order. The way the new world order is like a parasite, you know, that comes in and just sucks you, of everything and then moves on 80 years later, like they're clearly doing from the United States. Like China has got to be smart enough to see where this goes. I mean, do that, can they put up a barrier and say, we, we certainly would like to be on top, but we don't, we don't need

you guys. We don't need the Soros crew to put us in top, you know? I guess it depends on whether or not we think China is a passive, like, tangential player or a part of making that happen, right? Because if they're, if they're part of driving themselves into the top, well, then clearly they covet that power. But your point would be that that's not necessary, I guess, with the current way that they're managed. But, you know, I think that any of these governments, uh, covet more power. I think that's pretty clear. And I think that's just a, it's like a, what's right word for it? It's, it's, it's similar to anybody in this position. It sort of drives itself. And there's better word to there. But, you know, where you end up in that position and your mind is like,

I just, I just, I just, I just want to the president. That it's, that's all I want to do. And then once you get there, like, oh, well, I want to run the global order. You know, it's like it becomes like a stepping stone. And so I think that might make sense there. But, you know, it's hard to say. I just don't think that any of these groups are like every government in my mind is ultimately the same kind of driving force, whether they see themselves altruistic or not. They will rationalize their existence even when it comes to things that hurt people because,

well, we are here to be good. Like that's how that they, but ultimately it goes awry because that's what governments are, I think. And I think that ultimately they will work alongside each other to gain what they can up until they don't want to anymore, whether it's bricks or anything else. Now, maybe I'm jaded because of the way the U.S. government is, you know, stomping around the world. I'd like to believe that there are other things that exist. I just don't see it in history.

You know, I think that nation governments and states do this stuff repeatedly, and it continues in an endless cycle, you know. But as I say with even politicians, I'd like to hope that something would be different, you know, but I just don't see it. Yeah. Well, we also have the history of the Thucydides trap, right? 12 of 16 empires that challenged each other wound up in war. So that's not great percentages. And of course, the American Empire is on the decline and like a, you know, wounded animal backed into a corner is shooting at everything, right? And you could, you could feeling like they've got a dollar that's, that's, you know, maybe deflating and they, you know, they need to do something to remain relevant.

It's dangerous time. You know, for the American Empire is like falling apart, you know, the, you see the ships coming back. It's rusted and disgusting and kind of just a kind of a perfect encapsulation of America, in fact, in some ways, you know, just coming back to port after getting your ass kicked, the ship looks like hell, the people all don't want to be there anymore. Like, hmm, perfect. Maga, baby, making America great again. What's interesting, though, is that two things people point out. One is just like, you know, the end of the Soviet era vibes, you know, with these horribly.

But then also, and this is important to think about, think about how much money they've dumped into this. And somebody said, there's no way like this is the biggest embezzling scandal in history. You know, like, look at what things look like. So where's all this money going? Israel, I think, is obvious, but there's more than that, you know. And this is like I still reference this. You know, they're essentially stealing the Civil War from the White House at this point. Like, they are just shoving their pockets full right in your face, whether it's crypto scams or anything else.

and I think that might be part of it, just taking the money and directly giving it to their, you know, their neighbor that has a business that claims to make manufacture weapons or whatever it is, you know, I think that's part of it. It leads me to believe that, I mean, I think this goes without saying they have information that we don't have. But I mean, I really think they might know something big that we don't know. And if you did, if there was some thing that was coming in the future, that was definitely coming, it was going to up in the social order, then, you know, in retrospect, you'd go, oh, well, yeah, I got kind of. see why you guys didn't really care about either going to jail or perception management or the

future or the dollar or any of this stuff you knew it was all going to kind of go away once the asteroid hit or the or i don't know you know mount st helen's two electric boogaloo goes off or i don't know so you get some sort of catastrophe that they either make happen or no is going to happen and then society is a little bit different after that so it make i mean i i i've put my tinfoil sombrero on a lot now trying to figure out why they're doing, you know, because in the past, there was like decorum and they tried to hide their crimes. And you almost, I mean, I guess now in retrospect, I sort of appreciate it. They gave the perception that things were above board. And now they're not even trying to hide it. And that is cartoonish, but also makes me as like, oh, okay, now it's, it's,

it's not just maddening. It's also like suspicious, like, okay, like, Why are you now all of a sudden so comfortable in your criminality? Right. Being out in the open. Is there, I mean, do you feel that it's not, there's no way you can ever be held accountable? You and all your friends, like the Epstein stuff, they didn't even bother to really try to, you know, it's like, oh, you guys are still hung up on that. It's like, yeah, we are, as a matter of fact. Get over yourself.

Well, that's the stupid thing. It's like, that is how they were Epstein. Well, you're still talking about Epstein. It's like, you made them this, this, it's, you know, focused on the story. So that's, that's, that's to me shows you a shocking level of foresight and competence or that that's not his choice. And I'm leaning towards the ladder, to be honest, because it's like, I just don't see this lining up.

And it goes for every one of these topics, whether it's Iran, you know, it's just, I mean, or even he, like, made a deal with Gaza to end the thing and that Hamas will do this. And Israel agrees. And Israel's like, fuck off. I did not. And bombed him anyway. And Trump never mentioned it again. Like at least in my experience, I'm sure maybe he said it in a podcast or like an interview

I missed. But I'm like, that's it was a huge deal. And he's so embarrassed by stuff. And it just shows you that like he didn't even mention that. Like there's clearly something else going on here. And I think that's kind of clear that there's, you know, whether it's Israel or something else, that there's something else kind of that has the say. Like it very well just could be blackmail.

Epstein stuff. That's a simple answer. Occam's razor. But it's just hard to miss, you know. And to your point about what was coming, you know, ever since my. my interview, my two interviews with, Abibu Deb Mizra, the author of the Yuga shift and the conversation around that,

which I still argue is a great book. It's not about all these things we can't prove. In fact, it's about the Yuga cycle conversation and about what that means, these like 24,000 year cycles of catastrophe and change and, you know, up the good and bad. And the point being that, or either the way he writes it, being something that we can't verify,

but goes through history and aligns it with all these things that we can verify, at least, you know, so far as we think we can. like the idea of historical events. And it's wild how much of this stuff lines up with this. And the point being is that we very, we're pretty much on track right now to be in the next area where that thing should happen, whether it's a flood or a comet or, you know, conflagration or,

I'm terrible with that word, or a day luge is the idea. It's like it's the two cycles. And right now we're on the fireside. And it's like, and it's just an interesting, for those I don't know about it, that might sound confusing. Watch the interviews, I'll try to include it. But the idea simply being it's like a, uh, uh, um, uh, ideological thing that's wrong word for it.

But the idea that we go through these cycles and that that's like an ab and flow of consciousness. And so the point was that you can go back to like Noah's Flood or these different conversations in the mythos and align it with events that actually happened. Like these ice walls that came down and flooded entire continents. You know, it's like, okay, that's interesting. And so his point is that he feels these things were already coming to pass. I followed up with him on like since the Trump administration last time.

And he had all these things lined out about what we would see if this is where we were going. And Trump's administration is nailing. them all. And I'm like, and you're like, it's like a profit. You know, like kind of joking. Like he just, he just sees the things historically and expects the same things and he turned out to be right. And it's just, anyway, the point is maybe they do see something at the very least that they believe is coming if it's not, you know, and I think a lot of that, the seeds and the vaults and the bunkers, they're all building and buying stuff, it's hard to miss, you know, just want to point that out. I think in retrospect, if you, if something

bad did happen and then you went back and looked, you said, oh yeah, it does make sense why Peter Thiel's buying a place in New Zealand with a big underground bunker. That's what I'd do if I had several billion dollars and I was worried that there was going to be a big, I don't know, flood insert here. So, or they're terrified that people are going to be at their doors with pitchforks and torches. And that's not that crazy think about with what they're doing in the world today. Certainly, certainly would warrant it. I'm not saying, I'm not advocating for people to do that. But if that were to happen, I, I'm not saying you should do it, but I understand. Yeah, exactly. And that's, of course, what we'll never advocate for violence because, I mean, please speak for myself.

I don't believe in it outside of protecting yourself, your family and the general point. But, you know, what they're doing is destructive. It's disgusting. It's, it's anti-human. And so I think they see that, not just that they see that it's bad, but they're seeing the same things we are. They're seeing conservatives turn on Trump. They're seeing people start to go, you know, we heard Greenblatt say in the ADL leaked clip that, you know, it's not a left-right problem.

It's a generational problem. Like, these things are changing. People are waking up to this. and I think that scares them. Even if it's like a 5% thing, they're like, well, it's possible these guys could rip me out of my home and put me in it's like, well, that I'm going to make sure I'm safe. You know, look at the guy when he talks about this kind of stuff.

You know, I think he does sense that. But before we get past this point, I want to come back to finishing on sort of the kind of disjointed, it would have been great right there, but I want to get this, the surveillance part of it, with Teal on the conversation. It would have been a good segue. But I want to go back to this idea of the censorship part of this,

briefly mentioned, but it relates to what we're talking about, about and also the infiltration discussion. This just continues to blow my mind that with the climate of what we're dealing with, with what people are even saying in this chamber left and right, you get the House passing legislation that blocks federal aid for colleges and universities if they engage in discriminatory, commercial, or academic boycotts against Israel. Now, of course, all the terms, you know, it simply means they don't, are they not now allowed to boycott a genocidal government?

You know, it just seems an insane thing. 33 Democrats voted in favor, which means the majority voted no. Two Republicans voted against me and the vast majority voted for it. So what are your thoughts before I give you mind? They did this in Texas, right? Where you're not allowed to, if you're a public employee, you're going to take a job in any way with the state. You have to sign a disclosure form saying that you will not participate in BDS.

Yep. And the hurricane, Harvey, I believe. That's the first time I saw that, where people were needing aid that their tax dollars paid for. were forced to sign a thing that said they would not boycott Israel before they were given the aid. Right. That's just insane. Again, what you, this is, I'm not trying to give them tips or anything as somebody who owns a media

training company, but like, you, you do realize you're drawing unnecessary attention to your behavior by doing stuff like this, right? Like, like people start to ask questions like, hey, why is it that you guys are so concerned with all this criticism about you? Why is it that of all the countries, you're the only country that people aren't allowed to criticize, legally aren't allowed to create. Like, boy, if I didn't know any better, I think that maybe there was a reason to criticize you. So that, I mean, I don't need to explain the stricane effect to Israel. God knows they know it.

But this is a thing. You know, you're outing yourselves as being a huge problem when you have to legally handcuff people from talking about you. Right. I mean, and this is the obvious, this is what people can't miss because, well, two things. One, it's an obvious, I was going to bring up this quote really quickly. Voltaire quote, if ever there was one. Right, right. Well, this one, well, it's funny.

There's like four different names listed under who, who, oh, it was up the whole time. So you saw me doing it. The point was good. Oh, I'm just saying, I know to Voltaire quote. I don't know who they say, they say George Orwell. No, no one said Kevin something. Either way, the point is, if you want to know, who rules over you. I think Voltaire is who people tend to, you know, who rules over you,

look at who you're not allowed to criticize. So that's something people don't miss. You know, like the reality of how obvious that is, because clearly, why would you not allow us to credit? But then from an American perspective, this is the same point about the communism thing. You know, how is it we can't, it's like as weird like schizophrenia where they're like, we believe in free speech. Well, but you can't say that. It's like, well, then you don't. Like, let's not pretending these people believe in any of it. And it's not even about absolute versus not. Like the idea that you're saying, we can't say these things or we can't believe these things. I don't care what you fill in the blank with is counterintuitive to the American

foundational ideals. They know that. I mean, I wonder if they don't, but I would believe they do. I add that at the end because I make this joke lately about, I think what we're seeing in government are people that are like the Cash Patel Bongino types that are actually people that have been tricked by the government narratives that they use to lie to us. And now they're the ones in government. You see what you like to turn themselves. Anyway, sorry. We've gone through a generation where the government lies were used on the people, and now those people are in the government.

It's crazy to think about, right? And that's what I kind of think was happening. But anyway, I didn't mean distract from the point. Go ahead. That's just kind of. The idea that clearly it's a counterintuitive de American ideals. Anyway, in case we want to move past that. Yeah, whatever you go.

The next thing was simply, where were we on? which part was oh yeah right right the the voting of this and so that just happened also the condemnation of communism because that's the important stuff to do is to vote on a you know what we think it's bad to think this but has no meaning on anything no no no effect on anything but let's waste time where all this is going on this one i thought was interesting i don't know if you saw in addition to this the leaked audio clip going around where basically he was saying to the jewish caucus or the jewish group. I figure which one it was basically like, you know, look, we're, we're on your team no matter what, you know, don't, don't, let's know what people are saying, you know, it's not sitting

well with the people to support him. Now, this is Vance. I'm trying to focus on doing as much of God's work as possible. And if that leads to the end times, okay. What I'm trying to focus on is doing as much of God's work as possible right now. And if that leads to the end times, okay. Look at the book's called Communion. Anyway, so what do you think about that before I read my sentence. It kind of reminds me of the Turning Point USA slogan now, make heaven full, you know, where they're doing that and you go, yeah, I have questioned. Like, isn't that a bad thing?

Like, oh, I don't care if I bring about the end times. It's like, maybe don't say that. I mean, even if you, if you're the vice president, you shouldn't really be talking about like bringing about the end times if i don't know it seems like something that would be weird extremist yes maybe maybe maybe you're violating your uh security clearance right right well you know i mean the whole thing is so because we'll read what i said in a second but you know what he's saying out loud that you're you're talking like you're talking about religious fundamental this is we believe that we're bringing on the entire

or at least that he believes that. Like, that's not supposed to be openly discussed alongside Paul. Like, we're supposed to have the separation of, you know, all these things that we don't even exist when it comes to the power structure. Well, I think what it really speaks to is you, it's your point is that somebody wants him to say that. Because I agree with you, that's not in the interest of Americans, of his career to say out loud.

So why would he say it? And who's the one group in the world who is driving that more than anybody? It's obvious. We don't even mention it, right? Right. And so what's interesting is right now what you get is an effort. In fact, I directly will reference Pete Hegseth, who said in an interview of a couple months ago, Iran is fighting for the end times, is fighting to bring about some prophecy. And I'm going, they're not, though.

I'm like, wait, I'm not going to say they're not, there's not a religious, you know, there's clearly a theocracy. But that's not what they believe. They're not saying they're fighting for a prophecy. And so that's what Israel's doing. That's what you just told the military, Heg Seth. So I'm thinking, wow, not only is he know that that's not what we believe. He knows that that's what the people don't want. And so he's projecting that onto Iran.

That's crazy to me. And so it's important to think about that. And this is just what I wrote, which is obvious. I think people that are seeing the long-term, you know, kind of stretch of this, you do realize this is not what Iran claims it's fighting for. Yet we are told Iranians are the extremists, while the Israeli government openly says they're fighting to bring about the end-time's prophecy. And Pete Hegseth tells the U.S. military that we're fighting Armageddon,

which I still argue is insane that that never got more coverage. literally people like hundreds of military people were like why is he telling us we're fighting for Armageddon and it's got a blip in the media it's terrifying to me i think religious extremists shouldn't be anywhere near government no matter what religion i agree no matter what religion pete exit should be removed immediately be all these people talking about anybody talking about end times when you're in a position where you have the nuclear suitcase right you should be removed from office. Like, I need a, I need a person in there who goes, I'm not getting hung up on your kooky religion and your end times nonsense. Okay, get out of here.

That it's not about what you think, Heg Seth. It's not about what you think, Trump. It's supposed to be about what we think, right? It's like, we all know that's not true. And it's become like, well, we hope he does what we want. It's just frustrating, isn't it? These lies we spin, even as we all know they're not true, at least in the mainstream. The point is it's supposed to be the you know, they embody the collective will of their constituents, you know, that they will, it's not true. He's fighting for his agenda. And so the main point for the extremism is that, you know, they can believe what they want. But if you're in that position when you're supposed to be acting with what we want and you're fighting for this religious extremism, you know, it's not about rational,

political, you know, what's going to help the people in this town. It's about how can I achieve this? And hopefully that does that too. Maybe. I actually doubt the second part, but at least they can include that. the only way the voters are going to get what they want is if they happen to have their interest align with what those guys want right that's it and then they'll go we you know everything is working exactly as i as i wanted it to right but but for normal people who don't want the end times and genocide and world war three it's a big problem you know it's it's clearly a big problem things are not going well And it doesn't set your mind at ease to hear your elected leaders, regardless of how much respect you have for them, to hear them talking about this stuff in a serious way. I can't have Donald Trump talking about like red heifers and stuff like that.

I can't. That's a deeply unsurious conversation to be having from people who have nuclear bombs at their disposal. And think about what that, the obvious point there. So not only are we talking about these people who believe in this stuff, there's a very clear culprit committing a genocide in multiple locations who is driving that idea. And so what kind of end times are they bringing on if this is what they believe in? And that's not even that shouldn't even be the point. It's just about that this group believes in murdering children and raping people because they are other.

And so it's like this should not be what drives what we believe is in our religion. Like how can you even call these godly people? And I'm not talking about Jews. I'm talking about people who believe that that is okay, whether Jew or Christian or anything else. because there's plenty of Jews that don't think that's okay. Just like I'm like we point out and plenty of Christians that don't. But it's like that has to sit with people. And largely I think this is the central issue that's changed the conversation today.

That woke people up. And COVID and everything else too, even things like East Palestine and different, you know, but that, that shook the whole thing apart, in my opinion. There's no PR campaign that comes back from that. From the pictures of Gaza and the stories that get leaked out and the 200 dead journalists, there's no amount of $7,000 checks you can write that's going to paper over that. People can't unsee or unknow that. That's going forward. That's going to be moving forward. Now, I think if I know that and you know that, then they know that. They might be in denial, but on some level,

they know that. So if they realize that the people can't be bought and that their best friends, the boomers, are aging out. And you've got a new generation that is not down with this, then maybe the calculation that they make is that we're going to need to do a more top-down approach. We're going to have to be a little bit more authoritarian in what we allow people to believe and know and hear. So we're going to need to buy TikTok and we're going to need to buy Paramount Skydance and all that stuff. We're going to need to get control of the media. We're going to need to get control of the mainstream alternative media. We're going to need to get control of these people because there's a new generation that didn't grow up with Israel's our best friend and they're our strongest ally.

and they have some real questions about it. So that is, I think, the new, that's the new pivot, right? Is that how do we get, that's, if you're Israel, you're thinking, how do we get control of this situation? And the answer is you really can't and the perception management side, because the cat's out of the bag of what you guys are doing. And decent, rational, reasonable human beings are mortified by this. and they're starting to make some assumptions about your people based on this. And if you don't want everybody in Israel to get painted with this brush, you know, some people inside of Israel need to stand up and say,

we're not with this. We're not interested in this. We don't want this, right? Like that, you know, you do that. And, you know, and I know that there's a faction there that believes that. But more than a clear minority, but more than you would think, it doesn't get a lot of attention. But there's a large group, you know, large international groups,

Orthodox Jewish organizations that, for example, or people that march, you know, like for example, people that march to say, bring people home, stop the genocide, or rather more so that, you know, basically knew that they were killing their own people, but wanted them to continue going after Palestinians. You know what I mean, there's a point where there's criticism

that clearly, like, the majority of this society, for whatever disgusting reason is turned against the Palestinians in a gross way, like Americans were in Iraq, for example. You know? Yeah. It ultimately is still clear that there's people that don't support it. That's always important to point out. But it's like Adam Martin has been going back, you know, going back, I think a decade.

And it was early in showing you like talking to these random people and like, kill everybody. You know, just like this ubiquitous view. So it just can't deny. And it's not racist to point that out. And I, when I was in Croatia this summer, I was on a boat trip. And I got to meet some of the people who were there. And I was talking to a lady and we were having a real cryptic conversation, you know, because you tiptoeing around this stuff.

You know, who do you listen to? Who are you into? And she started naming some names. And, oh, me. And what she told me was that she said, you know, we her, she and her husband are in a very unique situation because they're anti-Zionist Jews from the Northeast. And they said they've lost a lot of friends because of their stance. And they said, you know, we see what's going on in Gaza. And we just, we cannot.

We cannot be a part of this. We just, you know, our soul won't allow this. And she said it and she said this has been going on before that actually. But that was sort of like the last straw. And she said, we lost a lot of friends because of this. There's a lot of people that consider us now simply because we don't agree and see things the same way. We might as well be Palestinians. Well, I mean, ask Ethiopian Jews how they fare in Israel, right?

Ask the anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews, the Orthodox Jews who get beat up in the street by the IDF. You can't miss that. I bring it up often because it's important to see that. Even if it's 1%, it matters, you know, and it really shows me that it's not necessarily about the core religion concept. It's more about the political ideology bastardizing that. And again, I've always, it could be the other way around. I just think the evidence speaks to that pretty clearly. But, you know, the larger point in all of this is that it's about control, you know, and it's the same thing. I mean, the same thing happens through Christianity. Go back and look through history and realize

how clearly these power structures used what we believed in to pacify us. That doesn't mean Christianity's fake. You know, it doesn't need to stick it or people that act out murderously and conduct horrible violence and genocide in the name of Christianity. It doesn't make Christianity. It doesn't make Christianity a genocidal religion. You know, it's like this is the kind of thing that goes against all of them, you know, and I think there's good and bad, the way that it's slanted is manipulated, you know, same point as always. Even if, like, you argue a religion is like designed to be a certain way.

And I think that there's a nuance to this, different versions and sex and the whole thing. It's still about people who adopt extremism and don't. There's plenty of Jewish people that believe, you know, that act and, you know, it's important to see that. Just like there are Muslims out there that don't believe, you know, it's extremism, as we both already pointed out. Any comment on that before I move to the center? The last part on this, I want to get into since you mentioned the idea of control and like how do they, you know, where this is all going. This clip is just, it's, to actually set it up a little bit,

this clip was share with me, Orwell sent to me, or actually, no, excuse me, it was my family member sent this to me. And it's a person on Facebook that is going through this awakening process of what happened digitally online. And my thought is like, okay, we have, been screaming about where this is going. And plenty of the, plenty of people out there that are far more influential than us. So this is like not a secret conversation. They're spying.

They're surveilling. They're cataloging. You know, like in the last, you know, even just a couple years, but last like half decade, it's gotten insane, right? And so she went online and she posted a video of her kid in her car. And all of a sudden,

she goes through this crazy rabbit hole of finding the fact that Facebook, you know, all let us speak for itself. But she realized, my God, this thing has every single piece of information on me. And so it's important, one, to see that even average people are coming to terms with this. Thank God, now, maybe we can actually stop this thing that happens next, but realize, you know, we've been screaming about this for, I mean, longer than a decade.

So the point they always make is imagine if we had gotten awareness and acted then. We may not even be in this position right now. So absorb that mindset for things we're discussing now and not waiting for Tucker to tell us 10 years from now or whatever else. You know, like we can deal with these things. So let's watch this clip and you know you'll see what I'm saying. Today I posted a completely innocent video of me and my daughter singing in the car. And Facebook put a meta AI question underneath it that said, who's the child passenger? First of all, why in the hell is that even a suggested question about a minor?

But I clicked it. And this is where I started getting really uncomfortable. It starts pulling completely separate information for each of my kid. their names, birth information, pictures and videos of them. It pulled a newborn picture from my mom's page from years ago. And then it pulled this. I deleted this picture years ago. I'm not going to pretend that I know how it worked.

That I know this picture has not been sitting on my page for years. And then, Facebook suggests that I ask meta-a-I, where does Kaylee Robbins live? Are you kidding me? So I clicked that too. It starts digging through completely unrelated shit from years of my life. Old posts connecting me to where I used to live.

Newer posts connecting me to where I live now. And then it says, I'm pointing Kaylee Robbins location. It pieced together my information to show people where I live. There was no location on that real. I didn't ask Facebook to build a profile of my family. I posted a video of me singing in the car with my kid. And yes, I already know what some of you are going to say.

Well, you posted your kids on the internet. You're right. I did. That's why I'm making this video. Because yesterday, I did not understand posting separate, innocent pieces of our lives. Over years could mean an AI could sit there and assemble all those breadcrums into information about my minor children. In second, I understand it now, and I'm not okay with it. So I'm done.

I'm removing any identifiable pictures and videos of our kids. I'm going to ask friends and any family I haven't spoken to to please save those precious memories and then remove my kids from your page. If I take everything off my page, but you still have my kids on yours, it will go to your page. I've seen it. It already did it. And I'm not telling you what to do with your kids. Yesterday, I was you. I posted my kids.

I'm telling you because if you post your children online, I think you deserve to know that this can happen. What are your thoughts? Well, like you said, we've been all over this for a long time. I mean, Vault 7 came out. That was 2013. Right. And we know the capabilities of the technology back then. I mean, we should probably talk about the fact that Facebook was actually lifelog created by Inc.

tell, all right? So this is coming out of the venture capital arm of the CIA. Again, I have a Facebook account too. So I'm not, I'm not saying that like, I know what it is. I mean, I know what it is now. I didn't know what it was when I started. But I know what it is now. And, and I don't have, you know, I use it to promote the show and stuff like that. I try to keep things as, you know, keep my personal life out of it to the extent that I can. But the genie's out of the bottle in some of this. And though I'm glad that that's what woke her up and that she is aware and she seems very, you know, she seems like she's going to have,

she might actually become an activist about something like this. She seemed pretty, pretty fired up and rightly so. But some people would say you're late to the party lady. I mean, like by a decade or more. So better late than never, but this is, this is kind of a, shows a much bigger problem,

that there's a lot of people who have never even really considered the fact that potentially their social media is not their friend. I think it's the personal, and, you know, I'm only to bet you that she's come across these ideas before, right? She's heard that they're spying a conspiracy theory,

whatever it is. But then when it became, your real experience. I'm living through it. Oh, it is real. Now, why does it take that? You know, why are we blinding ourselves to things that I'm not, this is just hypothetically. I don't know if that's what you went through or not. But in some cases, why do people choose to, you know, gaslight themselves, safe and effective? You put your mask on. Like when you know what, look, look at the cyan. You know, look at what I'm trying to show it. You know, it's like, that's what we're dealing with. You know, whatever it is, you know, suddenly this person, you know, the shot in the mask is,

suddenly they have a family ever die. It's like, now, okay, now they see it. You know, it's Why does it take that? Why can't people just be objective and open-minded enough to be like, you know, I have an opinion, but what do you got? You know, it's like, it's like, what does that harm? What does that take from you, you know? But so the big thing for me is the picture. You know, so she pointed out that that was a deleted image they still had. I think she missed, I think she assumes that's because it was somewhere else online.

I think the point is that it doesn't have to be. I think whether it's, you know, on a server somewhere, like this is universal for them. They're cataloging, especially with the AI endless pit of this. it's going to become every single data point forever. That's ultimately what their mindset is. So the idea they have that picture or having them take down those photos, it's not going to make a difference. They already have all of this.

Now, that's not to say that you shouldn't try to not or do what you can to hide from it. Even if they've got everything, you should still do your best to make it more difficult for them to do that. But the other things I noted on that were, you know, the profiling. You know, this is the point of what these things are. You know what I mean? like the profiling who we are and getting all the data together, you know, it's like, it's almost as if she feels like this is some sort of a tangential thing. It's like,

I'm hoping she can start to recognize like that was the entire point, like that you are the product in this. That's what we've always been saying. So I just think it's such a powerful moment to see that eat like what all the things we talked about, politics or otherwise, that average people are starting to see this stuff. And I find that important and in powerful, but is it going to make a difference? You know, like, are we going to actually change this before it happens? You know, it's like, I don't know. I hope so. It's the same mentality when opting out of the TSA, facial recognition cameras. When they, you know, a case could be made.

They've got you on camera. They got you the second you walked in the airport, you know, you're showing them your ID, you're getting on a flight that's tied to your name. They're building a database of you, you know, your digital voodoo doll of you anyway. What's the difference? I mean, what's the big deal if you just give, you know, let them scan your, your face? The point is I opt out because I can. the point is

fuck you that's why that you know like yes I understand you've got my stuff but I'm not going to give it to you voluntarily

I mean I suppose we do in some levels when we sign up to terms of service with social media and things like this we agree to things that we don't know

we really agree to we don't really agree to it but we we say we agree to it to get the process started and get online and do our whatever it is

but but I don't agree to them taking another picture of me and I opt out because I can opt out and because they don't want me to and I know they don't want me to because I know how they treat me every time I opt out like as if I'm like defying the laws of gravity

by doing this or something you know like how dare you they go you do know there's cameras everywhere I go yeah yeah I have a brain I understand what's going on you see where it says optional there it's optional so I'm opting out so I don't you know Corbett's point about, and he did it like a long time ago, but he did a good breakdown on the Milgram experiment. And I think he's probably mentioned it since then, but then what I remember is from,

you know, like a decade ago. And the simple point being is that when you do that, you're, you're, there are people in that line that are numbed out on their fluoride water or whatever else and just they see you and go, oh, I didn't even realize I could say no. You know, it's like that, that's an important moment for them. I will give you a personal experience where that happened. Actually, I was on my way to Anarchapulco. And I had, there were two ladies in front of me. And we were just sort of chit-chatting as we go through the line. They went through, did the pictures and everything. And then they were getting there, putting their stuff back in the guy.

Because I said, I'll opt out. He goes, okay, they looked at me like that. And then they said, you can opt out. I go, yeah, see, it says optional there. They go, I go, watch this. I go, so I put my stuff on thing. I go, I want to opt out. I want the hand, the pat down.

I don't want to go through the scanner. They're like, what is this? Who are you? What is your name? She asked me. So I gave me my name. I write books about this stuff. What is your name?

And she's like typing it in her phone. I'm like, I'm kind of getting like, I can't talk right now because they were doing the screening. But they were like, these two ladies were totally inspired by this. It blew their mind that you could do it. So that you're right. I actually saw it with my own eyes. Two people, the light bulb turned on.

And I was like, you can opt out of all this stuff. You should do it because you have to do it. And they're like, we'll do it on our way back. This is great. We didn't know we could. I was like, see? So, you know, it's does it, does it matter? Does it make a difference?

Are they going to get everybody in the end? Maybe, but I don't care. I'm going down swinging. And that's important to think about. But there's also the point to me made that that's not, it's not, we don't know for a case that that like, for example, you walk in the airport. I mean, I doubt, I mean, I still say I doubt that those cameras are all biometric

set up. I mean, it's certainly possible today. But it's probably likely they're just the same system they've had. And so that's one point to say maybe they're not just getting it everywhere. But let's just say they are biometric cameras. How do we like, we need to understand today that this is not a one quick shot thing. Like it has to be, there's a whole process.

And so if you get like a glancing shot, maybe they didn't get the full thing, right? That's why they want you to go standing there wide-eyed so they can make sure they get it perfect. So realize that maybe they need that last step to functionally make sure that they can, you know, actually identify that versus others or, you know, it's like even like the fingerprint. Also James Corr, by the way, I remember this from a long time ago. Breaking down the fact that it's just not as absolute as we're told. You know, or like a bite teeth mark thing or the hair sample. Turns out these are wildly frivolous when you look at the actual breakdown.

It's like the flock camera thing. But they used it still. And even the fingerprint's not as absolute. It's not like a snowflake thing. Either way, the point comes down to the like this. Maybe that makes the difference, you know, and to your point again to reiterate, maybe you shouldn't comply just because they want you to, you know, stand your ground. But I bet you change those people's lives.

Whether or not they come back around to do it different, you know, I think that you forever planted that moment in them and they will think about it. They will evolve. That's the important part. You know, we've got to get that going. I want to end with one associated story that I just talked about. I don't know if you've heard of this, or of this specific story. I'm sure you're aware of this

happening. But recently there was a kid who was, I wish I had it brought up because I want to give specifics. I talked about like two shows ago who was at home in his mom's kitchen, typing on his computer, which at this point they're using school. So it's like

overlap with the school process. And he's typing on the computer and ultimately says some, I forget that it was something like largely benign like, you know, like something in a message to a friend about, you know, the teacher being me. Like I hope they don't, I hope they don't survive till tomorrow. Something like that. And then like LOL and then deleted it. Didn't send it.

Within hours he suspended from school. And they literally, because he typed something out and deleted it, didn't send it. And that kind of benign. Like even though it's like, well, maybe he was going to kill the teacher. It's like, what world are we in here? And so ultimately it shows you not only are they literally tracking keystrokes on children's computers, but when you dive into the story, it's what we all know is happening. You know, the invasive nature of what they're doing with these kids and what they're serving.

Like having them, the reason I actually got down this rabbit hole is my nephew told me that he's being forced to use a biometric face scan to get on a public computer at a school. Why the fuck does that even make sense? It's not a personal computer. You don't need, it's not like you need security for your, you're doing this because you're stealing their biometrics. And you're normalizing the process. That's what it is to me.

And so going further, I'm like, not only are they making them sign in, but they're tracking keystrokes. It's just like obviously a setup for where they're, so they're going to march into technocracy without even blinking. But it's also been going on a lot longer than that. It just speaks to where we're going. And I just wanted to make sure people heard that because it's like if you care, like the mom, you know, what she just dealt with or, you know, it's all happening.

Stand up. Do something about it. Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to have your head in the sand with this. and you fight because you because it's right to fight back about it. And it doesn't take everybody and it doesn't take 51% of the people to make a change. It just takes it, it just takes an informed minority that's, that's diligent and mad and not backing down. And you can, you can make things happen. I think it's important for, and also, you know, when you stand up to tyranny,

it's contagious. You know, if it was pulling the mask down when you're walking through the, you know, produce section during the COVID era with people who are doing that or walking in without a mask like you own the place. You know, that people see that and they go, oh yeah, that's right. I do have another option. I could not comply. It's so much easier to just get along with the program and do something that everybody else is doing. Even if I don't have much energy one way or the other, like the mask, like, I don't care. Maybe I'll wear it or I won't wear it. I don't really care. those people will comply. You need to be the type of person who is personally offended by them, by a person that is in your mind beneath you, meaning the government, trying to tell you how to live

your life. Like, I, how dare you? You are the last people that are in any position to tell me how to run my system, what I'm into, you know, so it's important for us to stand up and remember, you know, stand up to these bureaucrats. Do not. do not comply simply because they're wearing the white lab coat and holding the clipboard because that's what they they understand that the majority of people will get on. Well, I think 40% of people will get on board with them simply because they're in a perceived position of authority. And so remember that and understand that not only are you dealing with mind control people

out there, you're dealing with people that are just obedient rule followers too. And I swear they might be the most day. I was taught when you grew up that the people that broke the rules were the dangerous ones, but I honestly think that the people who follow every rule to the order of the law, I think they are the most dangerous people around, frankly. Because they usually are doing so without contemplation. Exactly. You know, and it's like, wow, like that's historically the stupidest thing you could ever say.

You know, it's like, look at the, you know, I'd hate to use the overused, you know, the Nazis, but historically authoritarian regimes will always say that you're supposed to do that. You're supposed to follow along. You know, it's, it's terrifying. It's true your safety, of course. Yeah, exactly. Right. Safe and effective.

Don't worry. But, you know, the point is, you know, the percentage that you said there, I wanted to end with, too, that it's, I'm glad you said that because this is, this is universally important, whether it's a protest and the police or the government and the people's other countries, it takes a shockingly small percentage of people to actually make a difference. You know, when you think about it. Like, it's not 51%. That's not how this works.

You know, like the point is to think of it with the protest and a police situation. If you look into this, every person, you look into this, every person, police station knows, generally speaking like a number, okay, that's gotten too big, we have to back away. And you'll see it, right? You'll see them. They all, okay, and whether it's because they don't have the infrastructure to house the people they might arrest, whatever it is, it's a factor. And if you get to that point, you then are too big to fail in a sense, or to dig for them to actually enforce with violence. And it's the same kind of thing, is that if we get enough people to actually generate real momentum, the government has only a few ways to respond, you know, and ultimately it ends up

being sort of a, you know, trying to co-op that movement to use for their own momentum and then drive into the ground. But it's important to think about it. Now, it's not the same as the protest and the police, but it's the idea that you can make a difference with much smaller, you know, grouping of people than you would otherwise think. And that's just a powerful thing to realize. And of course, it's also the other way around. They want you to think you're completely powerless unless you've got the majority on your side. And that's perfectly in their, you know, in their interest. But leave it there for today, brother. It's always great talking with you. I think we had it's a good conversation today. Anything you want to leave us with?

No, no, that's it. We're good. Oh, I will say this. For anybody who's going to be in Nashville on September 12th, I'll be there with Word War debate. That's Sam Tripoli's new debate league. I'll be the moderator of that. I got to manage four fights going on that night. So if you're interested and in Nashville, Saturday, September 12th, Woolworth Theater, see you there. Tickets are available wordworedebate.com. Yeah, we'll throw a link in the chat. I'm planning on being there too, so it should be fun. Well, it's good chat and brother as always, and I will see you in a couple weeks. Yep. Everybody out there is always question everything. Come to your own conclusions. Stay vigilant.