The Last American Vagabond - What The Hell Is Happening with Charlie Robinson (7/31/26)

Episode Date: July 31, 2026

Twice a month Charlie Robinson and Ryan Cristián join forces to discuss the madness that is partisan politics, and the chaotic nature of the world today. They discuss current events, political machinations, foreign policy blunders, and just good old fashioned two-party illusion naivety. The conversations will be focused on whatever is most current in their minds as they do their best to decipher “what the hell is happening?”Source Links:(21) AIPAC Tracker on X: “.@AIPAC ♥️s Netanyahu” / X(21) The Last American Vagabond on X: “Just like the last time. And remember the MSM/MAM tried to play it off like it was an insult. It was special treatment.” / X(21) Parody Jeff on X: “Why is Miriam Adelson taking part in official meetings with foreign leaders? https://t.co/uPiAZQp5BU” / X(21) Shadow of Ezra on X: “Benjamin Netanyahu tells Christian Zionists in America that his bloodline comes directly from the original Hebrews in Jerusalem. He says his bloodline provided the world with freedom and faith and is now under attack by antisemites. Netanyahu wants Christian Zionists to “fight, https://t.co/zcLQvbSgBv” / X(21) Zo Brown on X: “Israelis loot all the homes before razing the village. https://t.co/86Q3OknzIY” / X(21) Parody Jeff on X: “A tour guide raises the German flag for his own group right in the middle of Germany. ISRAELI tourists who are also in the area completely lose it. They claim it evokes Nazi supremacy and drag the police into it. Germany has completely lost the plot. https://t.co/CyK6DfSrqu” / XNew TabPresident Trump Participates in a Roundtable on ANTIFA - YouTube(21) The Last American Vagabond on X: “Here is Trump in 2015, and then again in 2024, saying ‘stupid people’ when speaking of those pointing out how both of his below suggestions are unquestionably unconstitutional. #FreeSpeech https://t.co/gEjfJx86AV” / XNew Tab(21) The Last American Vagabond on X: “Every. Time. The real question is will people continue to fall for the games of the #TwoPartyIllusion or decide to strike a new path. Jump off the left/right political hamster wheel and you’ll find there are far more options than you’ve been trained to believe.” / X(21) The Last American Vagabond on X: “As I told you was coming (watch as it’s self amplifying mRNA). We can still stop this if we see beyond the false party lines and realize who we’re actually fighting. I personally think that is more possible right now than it’s ever been, in my lifetime at least.” / X(21) Aaron Rupar on X: “Reminder that on his last day of his first term, Trump awarded a commendation to Dr Fauci “in recognition of his exceptional effort on Operation Warp Speed” https://t.co/qhrPAkoCDz” / X(21) End Tribalism in Politics on X: “Tucker Carlson says people like Fauci and Bill Gates may never end up in prison. But their lives will be misery forever. “He’s still alive, but in some very obvious sense, he’s already in hell.” “None of them are getting away with anything.” “Justice is real.” “Wrongdoers https://t.co/mGK0NZ7Oag” / XObama Granted Bill Gates Top Secret Clearance At Energy Department - AOL(21) Cuckturd on X: “”There would have never been a Covid vaccine with out me!” Donald J Trump. He also gave Big Pharma full immunity, has been vaxxed 16 times, and commended Dr. Fauci. If Maga has a problem they need to take it up with their Daddy. https://t.co/SgRfP0exio” / XNew Tab(21) Alex Jones on X: “Roger Stone says he just filed for divorce against me. The problem is, we were never married. I am very excited that Trump and the people in his orbit have figured out that I want nothing to do with them. They have become nothing but globalist puppets and are on a sinking ship. https://t.co/2NdSjmorYZ” / XWhy Alex Jones says Trump should be removed from office(21) The Last American Vagabond on X: “What did I tell ya?” / XBitcoin Donations Are Appreciated:www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/bitcoin-donation(3FSozj9gQ1UniHvEiRmkPnXzHSVMc68U9f) Get full access to The Last American Vagabond Substack at tlavagabond.substack.com/subscribe

control exactly what people think and that is your job what the hell is happening what the hell is happening our home way making things happen the world is our standard what the hell is happening what the hell is happening what the hell is happening what the hell is the best on the planet it's already what the hell we could step up the passion it's happening happening it's already happened the madness of the new cycle spitting the wheel of chaos Friday, July 31st, welcome to another episode of what the hell is happening with myself and Charlie Robinson here to discuss the chaos of the political spectrum and, you know, everything else that spins all around it. So let's just jump right into it today, Charlie. How are you? And, you know, what, what's on your radar? What's standing out that you want to discuss that seems chaotic and confusing and, you know, we're interested in breaking down a little more in, you know, in depth with clarity today. Well, I'm doing much better than Spain.

right now. I haven't even got into that, actually. That I noticed. What a mess over there. And funny how we're all made to see it, you know. There's so much of this is, you know, I have to ask the question, is it real? Am I seeing something that's real? Is it being choreographed?

Is it being shot from a different angle? You know, I mean, it's not to say that I wouldn't believe that a place would be overrun with that many people. But again, I've never been there. that footage could have been shot a year ago and just dropped on us today. You know, so I'm all, I'm looking around and I'm trying to figure out what the play is here. And then you see some of these old tweets from Netanyahu's son and things like this, giving a little bit of advanced knowledge about, hey, you know, it'd be a shame. Nice flower shop you got there.

It'd be a shame of something bad happened to it. That sort of stuff on social media. And then, you know, I mean, it, again, I, I, I started. going, all right, well, we're all being drawn to this for obvious reasons. It looks like World War Z. And so what else is going on in the world that's drawing our attention away from something else? Fauci. I'm not saying those two things are connected, but the timing was similar. So it's a show, as we know, and it's a bit of a magician show. And a lot of times when he's holding out that hat, know, and doing the whole thing with the big production, that's to distract you from something else.

So I'm just wondering, I mean, look, I don't want the Spanish people to be overrun at all. I'm not in favor of that. That should go without saying. But also, it's very convenient that that diverts us to something else, to talking about something else. I mean, there's only so many hours in the day to eat up that new cycle. and if you can gum it up with something that's seemingly unimportant to our lives, you know, I mean, to the grand scheme of things, the Calergy plan, the role of Israel and all that, it matters. But to you and me, to day-to-day things, we should be, the lead story should be the cost of gasoline,

not what's going on in Spain. But I understand it's valuable because it's a distraction. it's valuable because it's part of the narrative it's it's predicted programming it's all those things right so it said it serves a purpose but that that's been on my radar simply because it's been sort of forced to the front of everybody's radar over the last 48 hours well anybody in our position is going to look at a certain hope i mean hopefully i would argue an objective honest person when no matter what it feels like what it you know tickles your fancy you whatever the term would be, you know, like whatever, get you going, ooh, that's something that it connects with me. It's something that I find interesting or your political beliefs or any sense,

outside from all that stuff, something that everyone's pointing to, something that's all of a sudden being talked about. Plenty of times those things can be organic that are just being capitalized on, but people like us should be going, okay, like especially if it's something that aligns with what I think, you should be going, you know, how could this be used against me? How is it, you know, is this accurate? Like you said, is it an old video? I mean, that's everywhere today. Constantly, we're seeing not as major stories like this. I mean, not as much so, but you get these, you know, kind of viral post that go around that are old content.

You know, it happens every day. But, you know, my thing is like, you know, so what is the real? And I actually want to ask you, since I haven't had, today, I haven't really dove into that yet is, you know, what's the real, what's the general surface level points before that, though? Just the interesting thing, though, is, you know, we're talking about a lot in the world right now where there's a lot of different motivations that can be easily stoked and manipulated, right? That doesn't make the motivation and the intention of people fake,

but the act of how you mold that can be false. You know what I mean? Like, and I know you know this, like how you can got like starving people from Venezuela. You know, like was it their fault that they were being shuffled in that Rubio invited all these people? You know, how they very clearly manufactured this. And the marching, the what they called at the time,

the, wasn't the mob, whatever, just that, you know, the caravan or whatever they were calling it was clearly not, you know, these are average people in many cases. and maybe there was different things throughout that. I mean, I almost guarantee that. But it became that they were the enemy. You know, it's like this, but it was orchestrated. And so this to me feels very much like that.

Now, do I think it's a distraction from Fauci? Frankly, I think Fauci in and of itself is a distraction. I wanted to talk about that with you today. But it's clearly, I mean, in the sense of like what they're doing, Fauci is a criminal and should go to prison, but like how they're trotting him out in front of us, I find interesting. But I think there's a lot of other things that could be distraction from. But frankly, I think the simplest explanation tends to be the right one in many contexts.

And I think what it stands out to me as, again, from a surface level is something that we can see the Spain is real connection to this. We can see the conversation. We can see that Israel and its agenda is on a knife sedge, along with Trump and what he's doing in a world sense that it's like, it's not like it's over focusing on Israel. Israel has inserted itself into like every major role that's going on in a world shaping kind of way. And so you wonder whether or not that played a factor in orchestrating, guiding, creating

something like this. You even have the, what's his name? One of the representatives of Israel, I forget his name, coming out, recently in posting about that today. I did see that. And then already being shown that he lied about that as Twitter is saying, that's not actually what happened. There wasn't a state of emergency. And so what's the objective for him to even take something that is, let's just even say, for sake of conversation, real and lying about it. That gives me the insight already that, okay, he has an agenda around this. So we very much should be questioning what it might be guiding,

you're leading to. Well, first just with that before I want to ask you your thoughts on, you know, what do you think the objective is here, beyond the surface level? Like your actual opinion, Do you feel that this is being orchestrated? Yeah, it feels like Israel has been plotting to spread themselves geographically, internationally, just in case the homeland is untenable moving forward. We've seen Argentina, we've seen Spain, we've seen Cyprus. This has been choreographed, deliberate. it, they talked about Greece, we're going to take over this island, then we're going to take over all the islands, right? And you start going, this feels very much like a parasite that recognizes that the host is

dying and is trying to find a new host to latch onto. And sometimes you can do that a variety of ways. Well, listen, clearly there's something, there's a connection with Israel starting fires. Yeah. There's something going on with that. in Argentina. That has been a thing. It makes you question, was it a thing in Spain? We understand that Canada has rampant wildfires. I don't know off the top of my head if Mark Carney and the Canadian establishment has gotten on the wrong side of the Zionists who might have started those fires, but they may have their own reasons for the fires as well. So the fires are happening intentionally.

The chaos at the borders and ports are happening intentionally. It's all by design. And so you look back and you go, who is it? Who's designing this? Well, this is a unique, the open border policy is a uniquely Jewish thread. I've got a, my new book will be out in September talking about how there's two factions. And there's one faction that specializes in this, and it's them. The Louis Nazir plan, the Theodore Kaufman plan, the Morgenthall plan, the Kalergi plan.

It's a running theme. Not only that, they actively talk about how this is what we do and this is what we are going to do. So it's not, oh, you're anti-Semitic for thinking this. It's, I'm pointing out the plans that they put forth and put into the public. Very quick, fairly. You can make the same point about the Jewish mob conversation. That doesn't make every Jewish version of mobster. But it's real and it does exist.

So it's like just to make sure people always want to this conversation is always so mired in each side trying to misrepresent over. But that's a very accurate statement. So people understand that. Yeah. And so where you see this forced migration, you find the fingerprints of NGOs, Soros NGOs. We talked to Dan Lyman from Border Hawk News. about this. I talked to him a couple years ago, and he said that his guys and his reporters were talking to Croatian police who had grabbed a big batch of guys. And those guys, he said, did you,

did you, they have anything in common? Or was there any sort of what was the money situation with them? They said, well, they all had debit cards. And they, he said, the debit cards all came from Open Society Foundation, which is Soros. But they said the interesting component of it was that they were they were reloadable cards, but they weren't getting reloaded by Soros. They were getting reloaded by the EU. Interesting. So they didn't know, they went, whoa, this is like, this is beyond NGOs. This is sort of like global government. So it's happening at the highest levels. That's the reason why it's coordinated. It's not like everybody woke up on Tuesday and decided they're going to walk to the border. You know, these things are, take a long time to put together. And this is like organizing a

parade or a march or a march that goes on for four months straight or four years straight in the case of some of these situations requires money coordination and an approval a tacit approval at the top to allow this to happen otherwise they'd be stopped at the borders and since that isn't happening it somebody's giving them the green light to do all of this and so it's uh yeah it's it's not accidental it's just that when you start noticing who's behind this, then these barriers go up. And it's like, oh, well, you're not allowed to connect these dots because if you were, it would look really bad on this one group. It's like, well, I don't care. If they're the ones doing it, then they're the ones doing it. And they should be held accountable

for it. I'm not taking into account their feelings on this. I just don't care. Well, it shouldn't. I mean, it coming from a reporting standpoint, it doesn't matter. It's not, it's not, I mean, obviously it plays a factor in life. But when you're talking about reporting the facts, if you're taking into consideration somebody's feelings about it, then you're not, then, you know, at the very least, that's not your, you know, it might influence the goal. It might not be your main focus. You know, there's plenty out there that let that be the case. But, you know, so in this, in this conversation, though, it's interesting that, you know, obviously there's an agenda, whether or not it was orchestrated, which I agree. I mean, there's plenty of historical relevance to and prove, I mean, like I said,

about the Venezuela aspect. Like this isn't, these aren't organic things. But in many cases include organic agendas and interests and that they mold, you know. But in this case, it's obvious that Israel has an agenda about framing this as like, see, this is what we're going to, this is what's going to happen if you don't let us do what we're going to do, you know, that whole thing. So in your mind, then, how do you see this relating to like the current, like, I'm just going to say the U.S. government perspective because I'm hoping people are getting under the, you know, actually I do want to talk about the JD Bands shift, but, you know, that it's not

left or right, guys. This is our government doing this clearly. but the Trump administration is in a unique sort of focal point right now. But so just how do you think this, that relates? Do you think the U.S. government is utilizing that or like, you know, because I guess the reason I'm asking is because Trump's current agenda with immigration very clearly relates to that. But I don't know how much the current conservative movement is even supporting Trump in that anymore. It's so muddled, you know, what are your thoughts?

I could picture Trump saying to the king of Spain, you see what they did to us? They're doing it to you too. Yeah. You know, we're all, you know, I can see. them having sort of a common commonality in this. I don't know and I don't ever want to give Trump credit. And I don't want to do. I'm not going to do the five dimensional chess. But knowing somebody who has that large of an ego, which he is legendary for having. And then knowing that there's an even bigger horse in the stable in Netanyahu who's telling him what to do. It has to bother him, Trump. It has to.

It has to be an issue. And it's logical to think that his line of thinking would be, well, I'll show you. You think you control me. I'll show you, you know, and want to partner up with somebody who's going to, who's now on the receiving end of it. You know what I mean? It's like, hey, you see, yeah, I saw what he did to you. This is what he does to me all the time, you know. He beats me because he loves me, you know, and this sort of mentality.

is it enough at some point to have the American Empire throw off the Zionist parasite that's clinging to it? Is it enough to double cross them in some great battle yet to come? Or is what's more likely that they will slowly drain them, merge our military with the Israeli military, and start to prosecute people who are critical of Israel inside America by the IDF. I mean, I think, unfortunately, the latter is the direction that it seems like we're headed, which is that everybody in our government has given up. They're completely compromised, even if they wanted to fight. They can't for a variety of reasons.

And this might be the end. you know, I hate to feel that way. I hate to feel like this small nation, the size of New Jersey was able to take down the American Empire. But that's what's happening. But it's not even about- We have nobody to blame but ourselves. I agree. But it's not, but see, and I know why you're saying that as the point of people, you know, the small country.

It's not about the state of Israel, guys. I mean, that is a focal point clearly, but Israel, Zionism as a political ideology is the actual, as you highlight. Right. And so my thing, this is a very important part of this. So let's get into the Netanyahu, you know, visiting and the whole thing, because what you just mentioned, you know, it's like we're, you know, so right now there's this very clear awareness of the NDAA. And the very first thing that I highlighted about that back when it was 224 before it became 219, because I think just normal changing of what they were moved and probably by design to some degree to hide the number. But overall that I said further integrates because this was not new. And this is an important thing to think about.

Even if we successfully fought off this legislation, guys, what were already. living through is happening whether or not that passes, right? We already exist within what you just highlighted. So if we look at it like that and realize that Hague Seth and dissent and literally everybody in this administration or diehard, Arden Zionists, or at least are able to bow to that, then that's already there. It's happened. So you could even argue that this merger end of itself, success or not, let's just even say they ultimately fight it off. And then Israel, you know, Trump turns and Israel's the enemy. Well, guess what? That's probably by design because Zionists are already completely packed into this administration.

You know what I mean? Like how, even if they went away, that's still obviously there. So what I think is I'm noticing, interestingly, is you're getting this like, like Dennis Kucenich, for example, went on Tucker Carlson. He actually, he sent me a substack before he went on there about that basically his argument about what we should do. And what's important to highlight though. And I think that's accurate and fair.

What the reason I'm bringing that up is I keep getting people sending this as if we were gaslighting and only now covering it. I guess people missed the fact that we were covering it years ago and well before. everybody focused on this current part of it, but acting like somehow this has been like we didn't truly fight it off. What I'm saying all this for is I'm worried that right now we're walking through the situation where however it ends up, we'll be given the token that is we actually still succeeded.

You know, we fought it off, we're still there, however it goes, like you're highlighting, and ultimately the point is that we already lost that battle. Doesn't mean we can't fight back, that we can't change this, but we're aiming at the wrong place. If we've learned one thing from the way this stuff goes is that they will always, misdirect us. And for some reason, now everyone's aimed directly at the one thing they put in front of us. Doesn't that seem a little bit counterintuitive? You know, I mean, what do you think about that along? So there's so many things we can add to that. But I feel like we're being played a little bit.

Reminds me of the quote from the, I forget who it was, who was close to the Pentagon in 2001. And they said, the Israelis have already taken over the Pentagon. That that had been sort of an established fact by those inside. It might have been Wesley Clark. somebody along that line who would be in a position to know. So that's a quarter of a century ago. It's not a new thing. It's not like, and I think there's a temptation to pin it all on Trump and to say that he is the Trojan horse that has brought Israel in because he has in some respects opened the door wider for them. But as you say, further integrated, further integrated, as if to, imply that it has been integrated in the past. And this is just a furthering of that. I mean, this is, this is not new. They've wanted control. So the Israelis have wanted control of the

Pentagon. They've settled for $4 billion a year officially plus whatever. But they've always wanted the ultimate control of the Pentagon. They've really had it since 9-11. And that is evidenced in part by the seven countries in five years that have all been checked off the box. So you could deny Israel's influence if you like, but the track record of the last two decades of history shows that it took us a little while. It didn't, it was a little longer than five years, but given a long enough timeline, the American Empire will go to war with whoever Israel wants them to.

Historically, that's absolutely the case. And here's the clip that, you know, a recent clip of Wilkerson, making that exact argument. Not that he, in his opinion, he's made that clear, but that he was told by his bosses when he was in the administration that Israel ran the Pentagon. It's unquestionable that the Epstein business

was heavily influenced. Let me put it that way, by Mossad. And so that's somehow emblematic on these huge geopolitical issues. Yes, I watched Mossad take over the Pentagon in 2010. Two, the Pentagon was infiltrated by Mossad. They did not need any identification to get through the Runderer Secretary of Defense's for policy.

The third most powerful man in the Defense Department. Occasionally they went to the second most powerful man, Paul Wolfowitz. General Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense said to my boss one time. It was like that. John Kierkow has said basically that more than once about the government. Douglass McGregor posted recently just point blank one sentence, Israel controls the U.S. military. You know what I mean? And it's like, their opinions. I wouldn't blindly assume that they're correct. But, you know, at some point, we just have to kind of realize where we are.

And so the reason I brought that up was because, I mean, the comments aside, I get the sense that's people trying to scare people away from looking at our in-depth coverage of what's going on. I could be wrong about that. Or they're just misguided about what they think I didn't say, even though we said it long before anybody else was, you know, that kind of thing. and at the end of the day, if we actually, you know, push back enough on this and something doesn't happen, I get the sense that people will be lulled into some sense that we actually succeeded, either in convincing Trump he was being misled, or that he was always in your side and it was a 40-chess move to fight Israel at the end. You know, that's what I'm kind of worried about.

So to bring it in, unless you have comments on that one point, let's talk about Netanyahu, his visit, interestingly entering through the side door, again, which is not a slight, like they tried to frame it like last time. yeah well whatever trump does he's going to claim victory right whatever happens he'll say oh it was my plan all along if if if we you know distance ourselves from israel then that will be well we were plotting i just you know couldn't couldn't talk about it at you know five d chess all that good stuff the truth is he's he's not in a position of control he's he's not calling the shot to He knows that.

I think we know that. We've been watching that for a while. It's quite embarrassing to watch him continue this demonstration. But, I mean, I watched Netanyahu, or what appeared to be Netanyahu, look like he chewed out Rubio and Hegseth pretty good about something. So who's the boss? Who's the president of the United States? I mean, this is even being, this feels like a humiliation ritual.

Because even the normies are starting to see this sort of stuff. You know, remember when he pulled the, chair out for Nintyahu and all that. This is, this is behavior that's, it's unbecoming, it's, well, it's, it's, it's, it's unnatural for Trump of all people, you know, of a boisterous, uh, alpha male to be put in public in a subservient role, kind of cucked a little bit. It feels very much by design. And, and if it's being done by design, then that makes me think it's being done against his will potentially because his ego wouldn't allow it. And if it's being done against his will, that's because he doesn't have the control that he

thinks he has. And the obvious logical connection, which is just an opinion, would be that the Epstein files plays an obvious role in that. And that's why he's not willing to make it clear. But, you know, there's plenty of other things it could be. You could also argue that he is somehow, you know, an adopter or, you know, believes in the agenda. That seems less likely than what you just said.

I would lean, like you said is probably what I would argue is the most likely. but it's certainly possible that he somehow was raised a certain way or, you know, post-Rothschild's bailout, that somehow he's a, you know, Zionist, who knows, right? Like, clearly that there's some kind of an alignment, but that's the point that stands out to me. I just don't understand how Trump could keep footing himself with what we know of him in a position that makes himself look routinely stupid, undermined, insecure. You know, and your point, what would make the most sense is that he actually is not capable of saying no. And so he's just really unhappy and really skins. And that does come out with his getting short sometimes.

The recent report, which I don't know if is accurate, of him screaming in the Oval Office or whatever it was about the Iran War and how they tricked him and all this stuff. And it's like, maybe. You know, maybe his only outlet is to just shuck off responsibility, which, by the way, he keeps doing. Makes sense. That's all theoretical. Good. And then he doubles down on how great.

Then he doubles down in his defense of Fauci or then he says, Fauci well, yeah, he was my guy, but then I gave him the Biden and Biden, you know, he starts to put it on Biden and the whole thing. It's like I'm hoping that that messaging isn't for us because we have, we had eyeballs and a brain and we saw what was going on with him. I mean, trying to rewrite history doesn't work when there's, we live in a world with cameras. So it's wild to me, but it's yet more just a sort of, you know, an indictment of what the people on the left have been screaming about. It's the one thing that they have gotten right is that there's something wrong with Trump. There's something wrong with his brain. The way he behaves,

the way he acts is his personality is incompatible with decency and logic and reason in the rest. He's a snake. He's a perfect, you know, he's a perfect politician. But that's what I say. That's just common to politicians. No more, more, I mean, maybe a little bit more than some, but Biden and the rest, Obama is just better at hiding it. You know, so I wouldn't say he's like mentally incapacitated. I think that's a common cover for their sociopathy or psychopathy, you know. Yeah. It feels more and more like the wheels are coming off him a little. bit. I don't know. I mean, maybe it started with the physically people talking about his feet are swollen and things like that. I don't know what it's like. It's got to be an incredibly stressful job to begin with. He's

not exactly running on clean fuel either. He's he's hopped up on pharmaceuticals. He's not well. And frankly, I don't know that you can be well in being that job. It's not even so much an indictment on him as it is the position itself. But I think when you take that position and somebody who has delusions of grandeur like Trump does, and he keeps getting these delusions positively reinforced over and over and over again by the world bowing to him. It does something to your brain. I mean, he's got to think that he's godlike in some respects. But then here comes Netanyahu to knock him down a few pegs.

And to watch that sort of power play unfold. fold in front of the cameras has been, I bet the body language channels are having a field day with this, because there's been a lot to cover over the last couple years with these Trump Netanyahu interpersonal communication visits. Yeah, I agree. I mean, just to show some examples here of things that stand out, I mean, this one's actually less concerning only because we, I think everyone's pretty much come to term. with what APAC actually is.

I mean, not least of which is because of their constantly public actions in the middle of political change. You know, like, that's not what lobbying is even supposed to be. Even though we all know what kind of is, AAC is just its own nature, its own beast, where it's just like directly in the midst of decisions, pulling funding for people that have different decisions. It's so obvious what they're doing.

But so you have Netanyahu and his wife coming in, like, meeting all of the leaders in D.C. APAC. So, I mean, it's not even a secret. But that one gets dismissed because, well, the APEC fights for Israeli interest from an American. It's like people just fight for the narrative, even though APEC is not even remotely an American thing. You can literally tie it back to its origins that are even relate and overlap with JFK before he was killed. The point, though, is stuff like that or things like this, the standout even more, like I was saying, right?

So this, what I think was Matt Kaminsky took the photo at Yahoo kind of secreting in the back door. And I think it's relevant more so now because last time acted like it was a sloth. light. And it just shows you how willing the, even the supposedly adversarial media that hates Trump and then you are out there gaslighting and to make it seem like he was actually slighted when what it was is special access for a special person, you know, and it's, it's not an insult, special treatment. We have Merriam Adelson who tags along in the meetings with the U.S. administration. Like they don't even try to hide this anymore, you know? Like that's just like literally slapping you in the face, the person who funded his campaign. We have Netanyahu telling us that he's,

a descendant of what was it um his bloodline comes directly from the original hebrews in jerusalem you know apparently that's poland you know it's it's just like they're just laying it on thick as they continue to destroy Lebanon and rob people to know who they really are last point is this we can just kind of talk about this to the next segment is in germany you have an example now of a guy a german guy holding a german flag and because a zionist in germany says that he feels that that's historically repressive somehow to the Nazi idea, a German cop takes the flag away and makes him leave. So I just think what a perfect analogy of exactly where this is all going

and what's already happening in this country. So I just want to include those before we move to the next segment. Any thoughts on any of that? Oh, I've got thoughts. I know you do. Many of them will get us kicked off of this program. It's so frustrating to, watch this. And you know, there's a segment of society out there that's asleep at the wheel.

Does know any of this is happening. Things that they're going to wake up and in two years or at the end of this year or whatever, they're going to, they're going to go and they're going to cast their vote. They're going to vote for, they're going to think about it and they're going to listen to all the campaign promises and watch the commercials. And then they're going to vote for the person that they think is best going to guide them into the future. And I just want to show them this stuff and just go, look who's really in charge. And by the way, that picture of Netanyahu coming in with the bars in front of him. Oh, paging Dr. Freud, you know, that, I mean, just a perfect image to a Pulitzer worthy picture. If he actually winds up in a jail cell,

that would be appropriate because everybody knows that's where he belongs. And part of the humiliation ritual is in knowing that that's where he belongs. And yet, he's coming in special access to the White House. Not only is he not going into a jail cell. That's never happened. The ICC's never going to arrest him. Mondami's not going to arrest him when he comes to New York City. None of those things are going to happen.

And he knows it. And we know it. I think you can see that. I literally think you can see that. I think that's actually better in this picture than the actual bars is the idea, this smug moment of winning. You know, like I know that, you know, I can fly across multiple states that are, you know,

align with the ICC and nobody does anything about it. I can land in the country that frames itself as the, you know, it's just, it's he knows what this represents. It's showing you I can do what I want. And even if he, you know, gets in jail tomorrow in that moment, it's a success for his image, you know.

And I think that's what that relays. It really was a well done shot. It really does kind of just bring that together, you know. Also, if you, if you take a sort of a deeper thought, about it. The person taking the picture is the one who's actually inside in a cage. Netanyahu is outside. He's free. That's why you're smiling. Yeah. It's very frustrating. But, you know, I think the whole thing is that people are truly starting to see this. And I think that's undeniable

at this point, even though there are still some that act like that's, you know, we question it as always, you know, it's, I think all of this is important to see like, like to kind of circle back to the NDA point, you know, the last thing that anybody here is arguing is we should do nothing. I mean, we should be fighting to stop this legislation and all for future legislation, Governor General, you know, it's just with everything that we can, truly. But the point is to recognize that it might not be the only thing. Everything in this, the way our political game works, always feels seems like it's balanced on a knife edge.

We do this or we fail or we win. It's like, well, it's not as simple as that. There's multiple lines about, you know, there's, there's agendas, there's different groups. So we just have to stay vigilant and keep fighting for what we believe in. And the point would be that even if we fight this off, the Israeli government, is still wildly influential, I argue, has already been controlling this government for a long time. And that doesn't have to mean all encompassing absolute control. That probably varies based on any number of things. But it's there. The influence is impossible to miss right now. And it's not because

of some NDA that has yet to pass. You know what I mean? Like it just, that's got to be something we really reflect on. But do your best to fight this because it does matter. It's just one more increment of control. There's also the Senate version that's still kind of lingering about the intelligence side of it. It's really just all more access. One element of it gives them what they think, arguably what they use right now to manipulate, but just be on guard, you know. But it's the same mentality or sort of thought process that I have for the Smith Month Modernization Act of 2012. It legalized propaganda in America on Americans. That's not to say that there wasn't propaganda happening before that, right? And it's not to say that, you know, you, they could legalize it and now

it's out in the open and now you see it for what it is. And so some of this stuff with the control of Israel, the control has been there for a long time. Now it's just they're at a place where they feel comfortable enough to normalize it through legislation and then really solidify and codify this into law. But it is all, it's not to say that it hasn't always been happening all along. It's just that now they're at a, they've made a calculation that they're at a place where they've got the leverage to make this more than just a suggestion, but more of something that's set in stone. You know, I see the same thing in regard to, you know, I mean, my focal point ends to be the

network state agenda, but that even aside, the technocratic change and the sort of, you know, Alex Carr, Peter Thiel, Andreessen, Lucky Palmer, that whole kind of circle that I feel like that's sort of what we're seeing, is what not the. these people, but like a long-term change into the illusion of influence with the people that now have the power just going, you know what, we're tired of that illusion. We're just going to slowly put ourselves right back out in front. You know, and that's an idea I've talked about more than once. But the point being is that it's just the, you know, decided to remove the illusion,

not necessarily that it's any actual change, just that our awareness of it is that's actually changing. Now, it's worth thinking about because that might change. It's the, the Frank Zappa quote about how. how the illusion will remain as long as it's profitable. And as soon as it becomes unprofitable, they will pull back the drapes, take away the chairs, and you'll see the brick wall for what it is. So that's kind of where we are.

Yeah, I agree. Well, I want to, before we have to talk about Fauci and I do think that's just very relevant because of where it clearly is right now ending up, who's to say where it goes? But I'm not surprised by where it currently is. But the free speech part of this, because it's clearly becoming more and more relevant. and the more and more Israel and I mean everything we're talking about whether it's through ice the police enforcement the you know foreign policy it's all amounting to some caveat on your rights right at least I shouldn't say amounting to but at least within that is some sort of like well because of this

you know because of this you're not allowed to protest in this way you can't yell these things about them you know it's all these different suppression of what are supposed to be on alienable rights and so I think it's really it's relevant to see as this becomes more and more obvious that what we're seeing is from the supposed free speech administration more and more suppression. You know, so I actually wanted to start very quickly with the clip that we've all seen, but weirdly didn't get enough attention when he openly stated that we decided to take away free speech because that's Y and Z. Do you remember when he said that?

Do you have, does that ring a bell? No. You know, so I saw this going, somebody shared this just like a eight second version of it. And I'm like, I remember that. And I'm like thinking of myself like, but it's weird that it doesn't like register that he just, it's not like you nobody agrees that they're supposed to be a you can just remove free speech even his supporters will say no it's you know shall not be in free and here we are so let me play this really quickly and i believe it was yeah it's about six minutes let me see i got it lined up

right here yeah let me do 539 so this is just like a uh he is this is from the white house page too thank you very much they're there was just dealing with that's too far. Should have it lined up. Here we go. It's Andy here. Oh, and also, for some member, you know what this is from. This is when, you know, Nick Sorder, he mentions them in this and all the rest of them were lined up when he's talking about how the evil Antifa, we're throwing things at them and they didn't, to justify why shutting down their ability to protest is what he's ultimately getting to. And so it makes you wonder, and I think, you know, my opinion about what the role really is of these, you know, whether they're just too dumb to know they're being

used or that they're part of the demitipulation. That's, I think, the role these type of people play. The red light, holy crap guys, right? Right. I thought, hello, Ann. I thought that was you. Look much better. It's nice to have you. You feel a little safer here, I think, maybe.

Well, not that safe because you have them. You have to worry about that. But thank you very much. Andy Nguer has been repeated. He was hit by Antif and including one assault that left him with the brain hemorrhage. Only days ago, Nick Sauter was assaulted in Portland by a flag burning mob and we've riots. We took the legal freedom of speech away freedom of speech but agitates and irritates. we are going on that basis.

Okay. So, Case, to recap, we're taking away free speech because, you know, they do things that cause other people to get angry. How in the fuck is this guy even if you are? Go ahead. What are your thoughts? I'll play a little more if you want. Well, no, this is, this is all very normal. I mean, this is, but you've got to have the free, you've got to have a guy like Trump,

lay it out and talk to the right into accepting that they need to give away their free speech. The left doesn't care about your free speech at all. But the right has always been very defensive of free speech until their guide decided that it was optional, which is hilarious and weird. You know, to be fair, and I, you know, I agree. I'm not going to, I'm going to say my opinion because I don't think either of us could prove either one,

but respectfully I disagree. I think both of them, I think the left has is, I agree with the sentiment that the left leans more in, has more rationalization of, why there's limits to that. And I think the right is more in mind that they believe more than they actually are. Like, I think the end of the day today is the real point. I don't think it was clear even then. I think it's always been sort of a, the left does this, the right does that. But today more than ever, I believe it's become less and less even, I don't think the left,

the right sides and narratives even come close to representing the multifaceted opinions of the people that see themselves as liberal or conservative. And I think what's happening with Trump makes that clear. But I do agree in the general sense that like a, you know, they're more likely to feel this way as a category. But I don't know, man. I just think it's worth, it behooves all of us to really dissecting this. Like, did the left truly, you know, like for example, with COVID, I bring it up every time. They were, it wasn't just an all, everyone on the left took the shots and they all agree. I think it was clear walking back even more so that, you know, it slanted more towards the left, clearly. But most of them in both sides were coerced, were lied to, were threatened. We're, you

And so I don't know, same thing today. Like, I just don't know if I agree with the left doesn't care about free speech. If you ask a lot of people, you know, and I come across a lot of this at different events and different things. And I asked somebody about that. I was just talking about this, actually, trying to engage in random conversation with people that you just randomly come across because there's less likelihood that that might be somehow controlled.

I know I'm crazy, right? But it's an idea. Go ahead. You ever thought? I was going to say, but the Democrats don't care about your free speech, not their free speech. They want the freedom to say whatever they want. But they don't like the consistency of being told that you, if you, listen, if you're going to say that we've got to talk about how abortions are magical and it's part of human reproductive

rights, then you've got to listen to the, then you got to listen to the conservatives, talk about how it's wrong. No, they don't want that free speech. So there's no consistency in their argument. They want freedoms subjectively for them. But they talk openly about how they want equality, but that's not, that's a euphemism for payback. Okay, that's fair.

But two things. I would say you can find the exact thing and slightly different. I'm sure you would agree on the right. And probably the same degree, the same level when it comes to things they don't think should be. But at the same time, though, I still question whether or not that, well, let me put it this way. I think what you're framing represents the team sport politics, which I don't think is the majority of the left.

You see what I'm saying? where I think today, and this is completely my opinion, and I very well could be wrong, that we're talking about the majority of people that are becoming disenfranchised, like aware of the, you know, and they still have their clear liberal opinions that may contrast with what the conservatives may feel, but at the end of the day, they're not just this all-encompassing. We, you know, I don't know. I just don't see it that way. And I think that there's some on the left that are absolute hardcore constitutionalists. I've met them, but just have different perspectives when it comes to how they see things going for, you know, we all know the wedge issue type general differences of people that see themselves on those sides

but i don't know i i'll leave it there i think that the right is so clear to me right now i think i saw it during the left or during covid and i think i still see it today but that you have this idea of what the left is calling the right you know all everybody in maga blindly's i voted for this i think i'm seeing the majority of conservative they're like screw this he screwed us over and they only see the right through the lens of what the mainstream shows them so i think it who hoops us to ask and to challenge these larger ideas, you know? I bring it up often. I just think it's very relevant today. I hope the people who were voting for Trump because he was anti-war and pro health freedom have had a wake-up call and have been, have been properly educated on the fact that

voting for either of these parties isn't going to solve the problem. And, you know, sometimes you just need to be a sucker playing three card money. You got to, you got to feel dumb for a little while to go, oh, you know, I got to, I can't be, I can't be doing this anymore. So yeah, you voted for Trump. Maybe that's your wake-up call. You really honestly thought that he was going to do it and he didn't. And so now you're a bit spun out and demoralized, like you're not going to vote for the left. Not an option, right? That's not even a consideration. But you want to do something. or you want somebody to come in there and do something, you want somebody to come in there and just do what they say they're going to do, right?

And so you're now looking around for somebody who's not Trump, who's never going to be the left, right? So it opens up a, here's the opening for somebody who's going to come in and say all the right things and strongman them and lead them, you know, like I'm going to, again, as you said, yes, again, this time I mean it. Wink, wink, wink. I'm not him. I'm not Trump.

You know, yeah, that was Trump making you all those promises. I'm not Trump. I'm, whatever, insert the name of the person. Doubted it could be J.D. Vance anymore. Seems like he's got too much baggage. But whatever, there'll be some savior, somebody who they'll fall for it again. Because so desperately we want somebody to come in and inject some sanity. into this. And we keep getting promised that. So I hope, I guess if there's a, if there's a bright side to this,

for all those people who got duped by Trump, maybe again, your eyes are open to some of this. Don't allow yourself to be lulled into some false sense of security. Like you're going to vote your way out of this with some new guy. This is the trap of it all. Like this is where you're stuck in a feedback loop of going to the slavery suggestion box and thinking that your master is going to wake up and go, you know what, today I'm going to do everything differently. I'm going to give the people the power, even though this whole system's been working great for me. I'm going to do it all backwards. It's not going to happen. It's just not. And people need to wake up this fantasy, this fairy tale that you can outsource this to some some omnipotent hero king who's going to come in and

write all of the wrongs and fix all the injustices, this is Hollywood fairy tale nonsense. This is what keeps people in perpetual childhood and prevents them from ever making any actual progress on this is that they're sitting around waiting for somebody else to fix it. And it's just not going to happen that way. I mean, I don't think the system is set up to allow for that. I think we have to break away from this system and build a better system outside of it that is so appealing that people want to be a part of it because the appeal of it is evident on its face and it's a high trust society. You're trying to salvage a low trust America. It used to be a high

trust society with the white picket fences and leave it to beaver and all that stuff. You know, and it still had its problems and it was in the process of being subverted, I guess. But those days are gone. Those are in the history books, you know, the history books that Gleine Maxwell's dad publishes. Those days are long gone. And if you're sitting around waiting for them to come, you're going to be very disappointed. And so I think it's, it behooves us to to recognize where we are, get honest with it and say, we're going to have to, we're going to have to build something else that is outside of this that doesn't rely on the traditional mechanisms that we've become comfortable with. Because I don't know, man, this system feels like it was designed to benefit them.

and suppress us. And I feel like maybe it's just working exactly as it was built. Yeah, yeah, at least consider that, you know, and to bring it back to what we were saying in the part of the, you know, middle, I guess, you know, is that there are people like we're highlighting that are awakening to this. A good comparison is like during COVID-19, there are people that in the fee medical field even, that were suddenly awakened to the dishonesty, the corruption,

the nefarious nature in some cases of what was happening in that field. that they would have called conspiracy theory 20 seconds before that, for what that, that awareness become, you know, and, and, but the, but many of them suddenly then didn't, you know, either didn't want to or didn't see it, didn't think it was the right path to open their mind to other things that were also in that field, other governmental manipulations, other things they would call conspiracy that are very much not, you know, but there, and some did, you know, and so right now my point is that we're having these, there are people who are awakening to the, the, the illusion of how our government operates, which I already,

argue is why it's not even hard to see there's talking about reimagining the way we engage with our government and networks, you know, a whole thing. But my point is that those people that are awakening to that, they may not know everything else. And maybe we're wrong about some of the things we think we know. The bottom line is that what I get when I'm bringing this up, I talk to people on the street, nobody knows and everyone's confused. Well, maybe they just don't know all that you know. Maybe they see the one thing, you know, and that's, it's like any one of these things we're about. It's just pick our battles. And right now we're dealing with a very important change in this country and instead of trying to find reasons why they don't align with how you see the world,

recognize that you've always, always, always had more in common with that person, whatever their side is than anybody in Washington, D.C. And that's such an important revelation, you know. And I think that's what people are getting. And I think that's why this is spinning out, you know. I mean, we can get into why, you know, if and when I do believe this is the case, Israel is doing this to our country and that this is sort of a byproduct of us seeing that. So it may not just be the kind of fruition of the government.

it could be that they did this to us. It doesn't change the reality where we are, you know? True, true. The point is wake up and see that somebody is doing this to us. We can debate whether it's Israel, China, a variety of other factors. Hey, I'm open. As far as I'm concerned, it's a pie chart. You know, and it's who's after us?

A variety of people. And it's not limited to one source. But first things first, get yourself, the general public. into a mindset where you're starting to ask the right questions. Or you're starting to ask any questions. Hell, the mainstream media had made it so much of a monologue that nobody ever felt that they could participate in a dialogue about the information they were getting.

So now we have this ability, it feels like, with the advent of social media and where people feel like their voices are heard, no, maybe they are, maybe they aren't, but they feel as though they are. And that, what does that do to your mentality where you now feel like you're going to go out there and make your voice heard? But what if what if you're screaming into the void? Freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach, you know, to not know, to think that you're out there spreading the good word only to find out later that you've been yelling at a brick wall could be demoralizing. If you're, it's best that people know what they're up against in advance so that they don't go down that path and think that they're embarking on a great activism campaign only to realize that they've been screaming into the void for as long as they've been trying to reach people. That's where we've been for a long time.

We've been breaking through that slowly with the help of some friendly platforms who have, you know, hosted our content over the years. But boy, I mean, it's like to educate the general public as to where we are is such a daunting undertaking. You just don't know where to start. It's tough to measure their level of comprehension and understanding of where things are. So I think maybe the best thing to do is to just say, listen, there are there are monsters that are trying to get us, you know. some of them are our own people. Some of them are our own guys. And you need to be paying attention to where things are headed. You need to get yourself on the right source material because if you're following mainstream narratives, you're going to be the last person to figure things out. And it's more than just being behind on some fashion trend. I mean, if you're the last person to figure it out here, you know, it could be the end of your bloodline. So get real about where things are. You know, I mean, it doesn't make you black-pilled or a dumer to have some real questions about the health of society right now.

It just makes you observe it. I mean, if you dwell in it too much and make it your entire identities to tell everybody how awful things are, that's probably not the best. But to accurately gauge where you feel you are in this battle. that's a logical progression. That's what you need to do before you figure out what you're going to do. You better have a, as Terrence McKenna says, you know, if you don't have a plan, you become part of somebody else's plan.

And I think there's a lot of people out there that would love to have a plan. They were trusting a plan, in fact. But the plan fell apart and they don't know who is in a position to have, a better plan at this point. And I think that's a dangerous place for people to be. I call them information free agents, you know, they're out there just sort of, you know, I guess in the one hand, they're, they're no longer attached to where they've been over the years, this cult of personality with Trump. They're out there sort of a drift, but you know how that is. And that's like runaways at a bus stop, you know? I mean, you're just waiting for some predator to come pull up and lure you in.

and give you some bad information, you know, and here you go again. Now you trade it in Donald Trump for Jared Kushner or somebody else. God help you. I mean, whoever, J.D. Vance, whoever the next person presented to you as the one who's going to be different. You know, so it's a pivotal time for people to be careful as they're drifting through this sea of information, trying to figure out what's true and what's not. Like there's going to be a lot of snake oil salesmen and carnival barkers trying to get you to latch on to their mainstream alternative brand of information.

But, you know, this is this is a trap. Yeah, I agree. You know, and I think that's part of what we're going through right now is, is this effort to try to pull people along, you know, like I think what that shows you is one that we're accurate about the reality that people are truly starting to wake up to this, but that it's about trying to reposition themselves for the next, you know, like if you're a system and you're aware that people are no longer buying into what you need them to buy into, well, you start formulating a plan to reposition yourself,

to reinvent yourself, right, to recreate their opinion of what you're doing. You know, whatever it is, you need to, you know, you don't just let it fall apart because that's integral to how you control this society, right? And so I think that's where we are. So before we get to the Fauci, actually, this is an interesting part of this. Here is Alex Jones, when your thoughts on, you know, this interesting pivot that we're seeing right now. And even I said it's just the other day, despite all this.

like Trump impeachment, like if you really read between the line, look at the actions. And look, this is the way to look at it. This is not even about Trump. It's about what Trump represents. And that's the team. That's the industry of politics. You know, the whole thing we're talking about. Or Israel, however you want to look at it.

It's the same kind of general thing that Alex has been pretending or at least he, I mean, who knows if he just can't see it. I'd like to believe he's not that either way. He's either been pretending or has been unknowingly, you know, doing the opposite, it but pretending to fight globalists and all this stuff. Well, as funny, I've been chirping underneath. Well, what about, you know, isn't he a globalist? Like what Trump is doing.

And now he's turned now he calls him a globalist. It's just kind of a ridiculous turn. But either way, maybe he just finally figured it out. But what I'm pointing out is that what he is now doing is shifting to going, well, J.D. Vance. You know, people on the right. Just like Tucker Carlson did. No, actually, that's the other. But here, we don't even have to play it.

This is him saying, Roger Stone just filed for divorce. I guess they're now at odds because, like, it's all. probably theater for all we know. The problem is where whenever married, I'm excited that Trump and the people, his orbit, have figured out that I want nothing to do with them. Oh, right.

Now, after it's been easy to do, after everyone already saw it, they have become nothing but globalist puppets. You know, like, think about how dumb that is for him to say after defending him, have not that the entire time. But the point is that he's now calling for him to be removed

and impeached because of different things about Iran. And the whole, JD Vance for president. How he says, quote, I've always liked he, he vans. I think he's really smart. as Tucker Carlson literally just did, like two days ago, which is not even the first time, comes out and says, well, J.D. Vance is the, he's the anomaly, like he's the one. And if he was in

power, this wouldn't be happening. You know, aside from him saying exactly what Trump says every day, or fighting for the exact same agendas, I just don't even know how that can, anybody can look at that as honest. I posted that action said, this alone makes me question Tucker's intentions. So both Tucker leaning into J.D. Vance direction or Rubio, wherever the next continuation of the agenda is or Alex Jones after suddenly pivoting from Trump and going for JD-Band. So the point would be is that it's just about the team. It's about the agenda. And they're all players in that and don't care about what they offer you.

I would read it. What do you think about it? Well, it is reasonable that they would like J.D. Vance a little bit more than Donald Trump because J.D. Vance presents himself as a human being with a sense of humor who can go on a long form podcast and hold his own and talk about these things. And so they see him as in contrast a viable option because he's not, he's not all the things that Trump is in terms of unpredictable rage and tariffs one day, they're on, one day they're off, things like that. That roller coaster mentality in comparison to the way Donald Trump is of damn right, J.D. Vance looks like a great candidate. But that doesn't make him.

That doesn't mean he's a good can. It just means in comparison to what we have. The bar has been set so low that maybe the point is to get you to beg for a J.D. Vance. Please, just somebody who's not embarrassing us on the world stage, mind you. He's completely run by Peter Thiel and everything else. He's an empty suit of a person. But he's got the Obama syndrome, right? Which is following a maniac.

Obama followed George W. Bush and they're just like, please, civility back in the White House, anything but that, right? And so you get Obama, whose biggest crime was he wore a tan suit one day. And then you get Trump, two doses of Trump with Joe Biden sandwiched in the middle of it and everything that was that. It's understandable that people would throw their hands up and say, please, just civility back in the White House, somebody who isn't going to embarrass us. Here is J.D. Vance. You go, good enough. That'll work. right so you can almost feel the prepping of this like a memo or a nudge went out like we're going with jd now you know and then everybody starts to say you know jd what about him and we haven't really talked about him too much he needs to get and then it starts and and and is it easy is it is it convenient to distance yourself from trump oh hell yeah i mean there's going to be a and he's radioactive and becoming more so by the day. How you thread that needle and get J.D. Vance to continue to be his vice president without being infected by that, contaminated by the radiation of Donald Trump. I don't know.

I don't know how you do that because as far as I'm concerned, it's a package deal. You know, you could be cool guy, J.D. Vance, who's, who's bro's out on a podcast, I'd hang you at dawn, if it were up to me. You're complicit in all of this stuff with the rest of them. You know what I mean? I don't, I personally don't see that. But I think unsophisticated voters who get caught up in the cult of personality could be lulled into some false sense of security that J.D. Vance is just like you and me. He just happens to have been elevated. Yeah, he gets some breaks. But, but, but, but, essentially he's he's jd down the block he's you know and besides the fact that he's changed his name three times which is most definitely not what your buddy down the block does so they've got themselves a human skin suit named jd vans that they can really fill with things i think that i think that he's he's going to be a real player moving forward for them i agree and i think that that is at least what the system at the moment is projecting as as what will go next you know but actually before I forget, I do want to point out because I just don't want you to be misunderstood by somebody who hasn't teach your content.

What he was suggesting there sarcastically is that Obama was not a problem. I've heard you say this. Well, I'll just, well, I'll speak for myself, but I know you share my opinion of what Obama was that Obama was just a well-presented problem in the same. Trump has his own bombacity. Like the way he does things is just poorly executed in a lot of ways. And he has his own special sort of problems. but I don't see Trump anymore, you know, in the system's sense, a problem than Obama or Bush or the rest of them. They're all projecting and carrying on the same agendas.

So what you said that he's biggest issue was a tan suit. The point was that's how the system would regard him. But the reality is he's carried on the same agendas and the same things. But it was more dangerous in my opinion because he presented it as somebody who was cool and calm and compassionate. And he who cared about human rights and didn't, though. You could look, you know. So that's very important. So I just want to make sure people heard that that didn't know.

your work from before. That was important. So let's talk about the, oh, I'm sorry, there's a delay for me. Go ahead. I was just going to say sarcasm font. Yeah, right. Internet killed sarcasm. Well, so the other part I wanted to get into was the Fauci part of this.

And I find this to be interesting in, I mean, obviously, like, if this had happened, like, one of the things I'd like to make a point about in a general sense is how much this should wake people up to what Trump has been doing. but I think that ship has sailed. And even though if people don't think that, this should help. You know, I think people are very clearly aware of what this administration actually is doing, especially on the ones of support of them. But with the Fauci part of this, it's interesting because it was floated as some stuff like,

this is going to happen, you know, don't worry about the statute of limitations or whatever else. Like Trump's going to make it. You know, we're going to bring it back in and Rand Paul did his thing and they all. And it just, it's, you know, what are your thoughts before I give my thoughts on what it actually amounted to or what it was always going to be? because ultimately we saw what just happened. And I guess it's not technically over, right? So what do you think about it before I give my thoughts?

I think that this is exactly how the spars pandemic document played out. With the Fauci character being thrown under the proverbial bus at the end, they didn't really go into too much detail about what that meant. But it was like the head of the CDC and the Fauci type character were run out of town on a rail because it was established that the vaccines had been a problem the whole time, right? So if you go by that document, which simulates 2025 to 2028, that fictional scenario, which played out pretty well, you kind of knew that the Fauci character, you read the book, you read the finish the end of the book before the movie came out, you know, and you knew where it was going and that he was, that that character was going to get it in the end. I don't think he's going to get it in the end. I think they could.

I mean, it would be appropriate and it would be probably a strategic move to allow the general public to have their vengeance and direct it all, put it all into one guy and have him be the focal point of COVID and then sink him. I that's how they typically do it but I don't know that I don't know that I have that that delusion that that there's going to actually be any justice even if it's just for the show I don't know if the show is I think maybe the show is to show us that there is no justice and that that you can be Anthony Fauci guilty as hell dead to rights should be let away in handcuffs and still walk out the door and nothing ever happens to you, be it for AIDS, COVID, or anything in between. I think that that actually sends a much darker message to the general public, which is even when you catch the bad guys, we're not going to do anything about it. So good luck

to you. Right. Well, you know, I mean, it's hard because there's so many ways to look at it. I mean, but I think the opinion I would have about the way this went is you kind of, I guess I surface level for, I guess, in our community is that this was something that was put forward as a hope. You know, see, it's all going to work out. Trump cares, you know, and stretch this idea out, talk about what's going to happen. The Fauci Diaries, it's drifted into the conversation. You know, and my point was, well, good. I mean, there are things in there that, by the way, most of us have already generally covered, but, you know, individual examples about what he did, about his own actions. But if it's all designed to give you something to be outraged about, so you ignore the fact that he's

not going to be held accountable. Well, that's what happens every time, you know. But then he goes in front of Congress and Fifth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, which I don't know what if what that you think that means, if whether that's him genuinely being concerned that he can't even speak because he might actually be thrown under the bus or it was just designed to make sure that they wouldn't have, that we wouldn't have ammunition to throw back at them. I don't know, you know. But at the end of the day where that's now, you know, they're all yelling in his face and

you're the bad guy and just nothing, you know. And then Trump, after the fact, I'm sure you saw, it goes, well, I'm going to respect his pardon and, you know, we can't even prove that this and blah, blah, blah. You know, and so to me, that's another example of what we've been seeing the entire time, is that they under, they think their people following them are far stupider than they actually are. And so they try and lay it out as something that is sort of, you know, that we tried and we're going to get him, though, and ultimately all you want to do is embarrass him and that might win some support.

But that's going to surface level. I mean, there's deeper ways to look at it. But I think it's hard not to see how easy it is that they're floundering with the Iran agenda is real in general what Trump's trying to accomplish all of his failed promises for whatever the reason is whatever's driving it they're just I think they're desperate I've been saying it for a long time I think they're literally desperate for a lot of reason and it's not that's not some play acting thing I think these people are genuinely you know concerned with how they get thrown to the bus maybe because they're starting to realize they're not really in control that's all I would read

it but again it's all real opinion and so the one thing that we probably are both you know unlikely vouch you would ever be held accountable easy whether left whether right. Why? Because the system is all fighting for itself. And the idea that there's a left and a right fighting for their, you know, it's all, that's the theater guys. This is the way it's always going to go. And that's not being jaded. That's accepting that reality really quickly actually to the black pill point you made. You know, there's a thing to be said about saying bad things are happening. But if you're going screw it, we're going to lose either way, that's black pill. But we're going, look at all the bad things that are happening. And we can be wrong about those bad things, but we want to fight it.

We have solutions. We have directions. That's the opposite. The ones going just pick a bad person because that's all we have, that's Blackfield. I think we've said that before. Go ahead. And mistakenly assuming that this is all controlled by one person is a very limited hangout, that you could

that if only we had gotten our hands on Fauci fast enough, you know, like in a Scooby-Doo sort of moment we unmask him and we would have caught him. You know, all of this would have been stopped. This is operational at a much bigger. It's a, cover's a military,

operation in conjunction with big pharma this is beyond just a guy in a lab coat anthony fouchy who who who is a PR face of this this was he was the face of the machine and the machine rolls on regardless of what the face that's representing it looks like it's not about Anthony Fauci there'll be another Anthony Fauci there'll be another guy who will come to the forefront as a savior and will use the props of stethoscopes and white jackets, lab coats and all of these, all these tools to give the perceived authority to the general public so that they can be led astray. And this is, this is a dangerous path. And I hope people wake up to, to understand that this, it's tempting to want to just put it on one guy. But he was part of a much bigger system. And if we're not also talking

about the system, the pharmaceutical industry, the VERS courts, every, all these other layers within the system, then Anthony Fauci might as well just be like a, a doll that's propped up there on the stand that you can infuse and fill all your hatred with and then burn at the stake. But nothing will change. It's just symbolic. And that even goes to the point of less just say Fauci actually is held accountable. I would love to see that. We would all love to see that, but it still does not solve the problem, you know? And so that may even be a last-ditch effort from somebody desperate enough. And maybe that's why Fauci's taking the fifth, because he sees that. You know, they're all bad. All of them are against you, if you really understand it, you know.

And so, yeah, I think this is important to see as an effort to try to, you know, I mean, that's such a great analogy. A voodoo doll or some, or like a, what's the other or the sacred, you know, like, what's the other now? Anyway, just the idea of putting. into that and getting rid of that as if that gets rid of the things that you're feeling. You know, it's a, it's a tactic. It's a, it's a ritual, you know. It's not, it's not in the sense of what we're dealing with going to actually change what we actually have in front of us.

But, you know, I'll include a couple of points that make, that add to that, for example, that RFK Jr. As I, as I think I, I, I can't remember you and I talked about it, but I've been yelling about this since during the COVID-19 time, which was that Fauci and Rick Bright were all about the universal flu vaccine. That was like, and I don't personally, I know there are ways they can do it, but I argue that it will take the form of an MRNA, some form of a, you know, some adaptation of that in the direction of where this goes. I hope I'm wrong. But here RFK Jr. is talking about following the footsteps of Fauci, or that's how they frame it, and saying in the process of creating a universal

flu vaccine. And I already showed this back when they tried to pretend to pivot from COVID shots. They took that one public contract for 500 million and put it into the flu direction. And there were so many other contracts, they used that to play people that weren't paying attention. And in that very statement they leaned into self-amplifying MRNA, as we both talked about. And so to me, this is the fruition of one of the directions are going in. And just highlight that this is something that is exactly in line with where Fauci was pointing. And so I feel like that needs to be pointed out, right? That this is exactly, you know, I think it's going to go in that same direction, be on guard to that.

Let's remember that Donald Trump gave Fauci a presidential accommodation. I told, you know, or even I think I have included it, one were, or was it here? Yeah, Trump says that we all know he's been banding about his involvement in this as if it saved everybody. He even just doubled down again

saying it was a tremendous success like three days ago. Tucker Carlson says in this clip that people like Fauci and Bill Gates may never end up in prison. But he goes on to say, but their lives will be misery forever. None of them are getting away with anything.

justice is real wrongdoers are always punished period you can see it when you look at bill gates is that a happy man with a wife who loves his kids and respects him the deep no today we learn the question about that and then they go sit in the corner and that's justice i don't even know how i mean how do you take that watch the clip it is what he says or what he's you know good which thoughts I was having a hard time reading it from where I was, so sorry. Was I cutting out? Yeah, a little bit. Damn it.

Okay. Well, people in the audience know that's been happening. But the point is simply that he's discussing the idea of Fauci. I can grab real quick if that makes it easier. But of basically the idea that Fauci or Bill Gates are already dealing with their accountability. that it wants to Probably not going to take the form of going to jail But that's okay though

Because justice is already being had Because they're suffering Oh by their wives Are their wives mad at them? Is that it? They're being you know In a public court of public opinion right? Like that that's and that's weird

That's not going to be enough here That's not enough for me I mean that might be the that may be true That they're taking on some some humiliation That has a cost associated with it. But as far as I'm concerned, the bill that has come do, that is just one item on it. They owe for way more. And public humiliation is just not going to be enough for me. I agree. And so two things that bother me is one, this is always the way they want. I made, I joke about

this my entire time doing this. That apparently, you know, we break the law, you go to jail. A politician breaks the law, they get to quit their job and resign in disgrace. It's like, what? Why do they not, they committed a crime and they resign and I'm a, you know, and it happens every time. And it's like, well, it's teaching you that they are in a different cast. They're in a different tier of the way that this all works, you know. And so on top of that, so he's telling you that that's somehow just the way it is,

but that we should be okay with that because, oh, well, they're struggling and they're suffering and, you know, probably. But if you think that's all they deserve after a genocide, you know, and that's not We can't mince words with what the hell happened during COVID-19. So here's the actual clip. We can listen to real quick. No way with anything. None of them are.

Justice is real. Wrongdoers are always punished, period. That's a fact of life, whether it's obvious at the time or not. And that punishment begins immediately. And you can see it. When you look at them, you can see when you look at Bill Gates. Is Bill Gates winning? He's apparently, is that a happy man?

With a wife who loves him and kids who respect him? That's kind of a deep personal friendship. Without question, live, but in. Not for you at the end. Did he say the word hell? Did you hear that? It was garbled on my end at the end. Yeah.

Well, sorry about that. I'm hoping that just for us. show they were in hell they were i'll be there after a delay about 30 seconds anyway the i hope you guys can hear that in the chat and it's only us they're dealing with this either way he just listed all the things that were read so they're on the record that's that's what he's saying winning and being happy are not they're very different things they're winning objectively in the sense that what trump is basically let bill gates be a part of his administration like He's met with him like four different times.

They're in line with many agendas. And on top of that, I found this actually pretty funny. I don't know if you saw this. It does come from Obama's time frame, but as far as I can tell, nothing has actually changed, which is that during Obama, Bill Gates was given Q security clearance level. That's interesting. Whatever you want to take away from that. But overall, the interesting thing to me is simply that Bill Gates has clearly been, you know,

he's not even being investigated. He's not being called out. He was a part of all of this. And yet, what are you saying that he's unhappy? How could you even quantify that? So that's a very weird thing for him to do. Like, I guess I could see a world where Tucker just is trying to rally him and go, don't worry, they're going to be held accountable.

But that's not what that feels like to me. That feels like they got what they deserved. Let's move on. I don't know. Or he's talking about when they go to hell and that God will have their, okay, but I want to see these people in prison. That's what I want to see. What do you think?

Tucker Carlson at one point used to work for MSNBC. Yeah, back in the early 2000s, if I recall correctly. The MS and MSNBC stands for Microsoft. Yeah, I'm just, I don't know. Just wondering. Just curious. I mean, Bill Gates has spent hundreds of millions of dollars influencing the media over the last 30 years. So how much of that influence has found its way into the mind of Tucker Carlson, maybe authentically or organically.

Maybe he really thinks this. But maybe he thinks this because the propaganda is working, the PR campaigns that Bill Gates puts forth have done their job over the years. I mean, it's been, you know, essentially in Tucker's mind, it's like 30 years of great work nullified by what? Just a little bit of bad stuff with COVID in an association with Epstein. Are we going to throw always good work out? It's like 30 years of PR.

I don't know that there's good work here. I mean, what do we? You know, so I think there's this misconception that it's like Bill Gates was this great guy and at the tail end got mixed up in some grand conspiracy because his buddy Epstein got him into it and now he's involved with COVID. No, no. This guy's been a bad guy from the start. His dad was the head of plan parenthood. And they've been involved in eugenics for a long time. This is a deep operator. Nothing's going to happen to him. Bill Gates isn't going to be let away in handcuffs. The closest we ever are going to see, we're ever going to come to seeing retribution for Bill Gates is him getting that pie in the face. That's unfortunately, and I wish, and I hope to be wrong about that. But that to me feels like the extent of it, because it's not about justice and it's not about getting the bad guys. If it were that, we know who the bad guys are and we want justice too.

It's that the system is designed to protect them. And a guy like Bill Gates, I mean, who's going to throw Bill Gates in prison, the head of the FBI, I would be under the impression that if Bill Gates, with a hundred plus billion dollars, doesn't have an extra copy of the Epstein files, I don't know who does. So, I mean, really, what are we talking about? We want to have an information war. You're going to, we're going to go, we have information. We're going to arrest Bill Gates. You better be very careful about what information Bill Gates has before you decide to arrest Bill Gates. You know what I mean? He can take the entire system down. So this is where we are. These guys,

are, I don't, I don't, I think it's important for us to not feel like we, we shouldn't seek justice. But I also think it, I think people need to temper their expectations and, and recognize that you're begging for justice from a system that created these monsters. I, I think you're asking the wrong place for justice. You're not going to get it from the very system. But I think people need to figure that out the hard way. And, but to your point, though, and I'm glad you said that. The last thing we're saying is that so don't do anything. So we're screwed. We hope we're wrong and we will do everything we possibly can to try to fight that, even if it seems as insurmountable because that's what we do. And that's what we should be

doing, you know, is giving up is just not something we should be thinking about when we're dealing with something to this level, you know? And sadly, though, I agree. I think that this is the, whether it's the, I mean, however you look at it, I agree we're at a point where people like Bill Gates are above the law. And I think that it's because, now, I don't mean in the sense that it's like, in their minds, we'll put it that way. But in a real sense, in many ways they are, right? That they have the resources and the influence and the money, they could pull so many strings. Or even to your point that you seem, I think you were insinuating there.

You know, think about what people like him or Peter Thiel or Alice Carp, think about, I mean, listen to what Alice Carp has said he wants to do to people who don't like him. Like think about what he's doing in cataloging information. Think about what they have access to. Now, I could be wrong, right? But let's just say you suddenly somebody said, oh, Alice Carp, we're going to come arrest you tomorrow. What do you think he would do?

Or Bill Gates or anybody else. He's going to access. He's going to pull every string he can, pull every level, and probably has information dossiers on people we can't even imagine, or at least has contact with companies that are able to do that. There's an entire world that people seem to know exist, but in a, like, sophisticated conversation, act like isn't possible.

You know what I mean? And that's so infuriating. And I think that's part of the design of this system is to keep us constantly, you know, second-gast. what we've already proven, you know, but yeah, I think right now what we're constantly highlighting is we're having a moment of change and we can actually make something happen. But if we all just kind of stand back and like, you know, like I was talking about my show, I feel like they need us just to blink. They just, they need us just to hesitate for a minute.

And that may take the form of a week, a day, a month. I don't know, but they we need it just to go, well, you know, maybe we shouldn't go off those flock cameras. Maybe should wait on this. Maybe Trump will see depression and then, boom, it's too late. And I hate to be hyperbolic like that. I feel like that's what we're in, that it's being built. And we're all just kind of going, maybe, you know, and it's like, well, maybe it's not, we see it. It's happening. It's slapping you in the face. So do something about it. And I don't advocate for violence. That's where we are, in my opinion, and I hope I'm not leading people astray. What do you think, Charlie? Well, it doesn't take much of a head fake to get the receiver wide open. You know what I mean?

and they have they they they want us to feel powerless and you know if you do too much calculating you are powerless in some respects but but but you you also have to kind of think of the the you know the the ants and the grasshopper metaphors you know the from from from bugs life and you know we we do have power in our in our numbers and it in we we we we we must call these things out because it's the right thing to do. Even if it's insurmountable odds, even if everything is stacked against us, you call it out because you should call it out. And you fight back because it's the right thing to do.

Now, are you trying to start a revolution or anything? No, I mean, this is where I think our advanced knowledge of this is helpful, where somebody who's whipped up into a frenzy wanting to do something is tempted to get out in the streets and advocate for violence and go that route. But the state knows exactly how to deal with that. That's the trap. So what we're saying is do something about it, but don't do what they're expecting. Don't go the violent route. Don't do that. You'll lose and you're walking into a trap and nothing good is going to come from that. be strategic about it, educate people. You know, if people know what's going on, it's harder to fool them. So maybe that's the angle. It's not about foiling their plot by by being up on the ridge

with better machine guns than they have. It's about foiling their plot by letting everybody know that they're plotting, you know, and that and that it's harder for them to accomplish their goals if everybody's watching them thinking, I bet those guys are up to no good over there. You know, and so for a long time, they've had the cover where people weren't questioning them or they didn't think to question them. The FBI was the good guys, right? Now, now, I don't know. Now people are starting to ask about the casting. These people you told us are good guys. I think they're actually bad guys. And I don't, and I don't know. I think that once we get to that place where people are starting to ask questions

about the puppets in the play, starting down, you know, then we're maybe in a good place where people are starting to challenge the reality that they're being fed, which is a good, you know, that was the thing about the Soviet Union, what the hyper-normalization, as they said, was that, you know, we as Americans, we looked at them to go, those poor dumb bastards, they don't even know they're getting lied to. No, they knew they were getting lied to. They were playing the game. The government was playing a game.

The people were playing a game. it was like this pantomime Potemkin village type thing where they were all, you know, not in an agreement. They knew we in America were actually in a far worse place than the Soviet Union was

because the vast majority of Americans don't even know that this is happening. So step one, I think, is that you and I have plenty of work left to do to wake people up who are starting to ask questions and scratching ads

about the things that they see and helping them to understand that this has been going on for a long time. Welcome to the party. Glad you're awake. Don't fall into any traps. But just keep your eyes on these people. They're very good at what they do. They're selling a story.

And it's up to you whether or not you want to believe it or not. But the people who have believed this story over the years are the same people who've shaken their fists at Anthony Fauci. Right. Because he hurt them because they believed his story. You know, and so they're going to tell you another story and then another one and then another one. So it's the question is, how much of this do you guys want to believe and how much of this are you unwilling to accept as the truth from your government? Pivotal time to be paying attention.

And as always, I'll point out that not everybody telling those lies are even aware that they're lies. Not everybody telling those lies are aware that they're part of some larger, you know, people fall for it. So think about that when your people are, you know, anybody who's different opinion, suddenly a shill. Like maybe it's simply, to who you can talk to and convince. Try anyway. It's important, even if it's hard. But I think that this is also a time,

which I'll bring the point I made up again, you know, that I agree with you. I think that's been one of the biggest issues for change in general in this country is that people have fallen into this lull about what we're living through and what we're dealing with, this, this warm remembrance of what life was like in this country. And there's some truth to that. But there's also a whole lot of lying under that that was happening.

and it just we weren't the internet or whatever else we weren't seeing it you know and so the point would be that we need to recognize right now or i argue what i see is that that is the moment that's happening right now we are both what you're right to point out is i you know we need to have more awareness like that's why we're in a bad place but again i think simultaneously that's already what's been underway i think americans are truly starting to see what this is and that's why all this is happening so at the least consider that right but either way it doesn't change what charlie's saying and what we need to be doing right fight for that regardless, and at the same point is we would be fighting either way, because I think that's what needs to happen.

And I'll tell you what, in the violence point, as always, if somebody's attacking you with your family, you damn will defend yourself. That's, that is an absolute, no matter what ideology in my mind. But at the same time, don't get tricked into falling into that trap as Charlie's highlighting because this will always be used against us. It is a tactic. It's about driving us to a place to where they can argue you are the very thing they've always painted you as.

But again, that's me, shows weakness. So I hope everybody can take a lot of this today and try to actually see what we're highlighting, at least consider it because I'm telling you there's a lot of change happening that the system is desperate to hide from you. So thank you, Charlie, for another great show today. Anything you want to leave us with on the way out?

No, that's great. Let's wrap it up right there. Okay. And I'll leave it with a clip here. The J.P. Sears kind of fake interview with J.D. Vans felt relevant today. It's also kind of funny. Take the edge off the seriousness. So thank you all. And as always question, everything. to your own conclusions. Stay vigilant.

Vice President. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. What have you been up to today? I was talking to the New York Times right. Oh, speaking of which, some New York Times writers came out with a bombshell piece about you and the Epstein files. They revealed how you and other Trump cabinet members had secret meetings in the situation room to coordinate how to cover up the Epstein files. that Trump wanted to bury.

I think that story is totally false. I think it's true. I mean, just between you and me, it is, isn't it? Yes. Cover up. Well, there have been meetings before that. Well, I'm sure. And it's interesting that you guys had meetings

in the situation room to coordinate a cover up for the files and criminals instead of coordinating investigations and arrests of the criminals. Long time ago. Well, Not really. This is a big deal. You and Trump promised to release the Epstein files. That was obviously a major issue during the 2024 campaign.

Right. You guys promised there was going to be accountability for the criminals and justice for the victims. Well, not anymore. Of course not. How did Trump feel about the idea of releasing the files? Oh yeah, he hated it. He hated the attention. Uh-huh. For benign reasons, I'm sure. But this is a major problem Americans have with you guys. Your Epstein cover-up is a big deal.

It really matters to people. White reason could you possibly have for the cover-up? No justice. Why? I never saw why it actually mattered that much. Well, it was kids. They were young girls. I was okay with that.

Uh-huh. Well, here's a picture of Epstein, the guy whose crimes and accomplice says, what would you want to say to him? I think that I would say thank you. He was a sex offender. He's a very smart person. That's Epstein. He was a significant and positive force. How do you live with yourself?

I'm not a good person. Oh, fair enough. Now, the war in Iran, great war to get into, and pretty good. Good outcome. Well, it was just chaotic. Yeah, you mean chaos from a position of strength? Yeah. Well, it was very unhealthy. But actually really healthy when you look at it, right? Just a quick bomb, take out their leadership. But it just really accelerated from there. And things kind of went off the rails.

Which you have a great victory, right? Because that's what this war was for us. A great win and a phenomenal deal. Right, JD? No, that's right. Yeah, that is right. Good. Because you have you weird there for a second. that we might have got kind of fuck. Let me tell you what it does, what does worry me. Oh yeah, no, go ahead. I think I really worry about with AI surveillance. Oh, yeah, that really worries me too. Like I don't want a social credit system

that's powered by AI. You know Peter Thiel, don't you, the founder of Palantir? Yeah, yeah, good guy, very close to him. Yeah, we know you are. He mentored you since college, gave you a job out of college, gave you $15 million dollars for your Ohio Senate run. Sure. He lobbied Trump to get you to be his VP pick.

Yep. You got into office and since then he's got Palantir embedded in our entire government. Yes, that's right. Palantir is the AI surveillance that worries you. I don't want you to not be able to buy a beer because some tech CEO has given you a score based on an artificial intelligence algorithm that nobody actually understands. Peter Thiel is that tech CEO. I don't know. I don't know.

No, it's him! ARIEN of mine once said that AI is fundamentally a communist technology, in that it allows governments and corporations to surveil people in very profound in different ways. And that scares me a lot. Dude, can't you see the thing that scares you is Palantir? You're the one that Peter Thiel used to get it installed in our country. He's just describing the guy that mentored him. He doesn't see it. Absolutely not.

Damn it. It's so f*** obvious. Dude, are you wearing eyeliner? Absolutely not. No, because I could have swore something's been different about you lately, and I couldn't figure out of it. You've been wearing an eyeliner, haven't you? Probably. You've been wearing eyeliner.

That's right. Because it's been something about your look that's changed. So you're wearing an eyeliner, huh? Yeah, no, absolutely. It looks good on you. It helps you be more relatable to, like, normal. people relating to elites like you helps them connect because you're doing that. But your wife, what is she, Mexican or something? Ethnically is Indian. Oh, ick. What'd your mom say when she found out?

I said, mom, she's Indian. And my mom says, which tribe? Which tribe is she from? Answer is I don't know. Like maybe the Comanche or the, um, the Lakota or Tahoe, Silverado, or forerunner. There's some weird shit out there. Yeah, there really is. So let's just close this thing out. What you think is thinking about Israel? Well, you know, I'm hardly an expert in U.S. Israeli relations, right?

But let me just say. Still no genocide, right? I agree. Of course you do. You know, Israel is a good partner to the United States. That is true. Nothing could be more true. Um, still true. There's no criminals in the Epstein files. That's right.

Yeah, just checking. Mr. Vice President has been an honor. Thank you for taking the time to sit down with me today. I really enjoyed this. Thank you. Dan, we're off. But seriously, I've been wondering with all the Epstein file coverups and calling genocidal regimes, our greatest allies, that kind of thing, how do you sleep at night? Because my conscience just gets to me. I say awake all night. Well, well, so, so, okay, so, so I become an atheist. Tell me more about how that helps. I don't know about you, but I'm someone who cares.